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Speaker 1: Yeah, what is up? Welcome to another edition of the

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Speaker 1: NFL Fantasy Football Show, presented by Caesar's Rewards. It's Me

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Speaker 1: your Man, MG, Marcus Grant, Masking and socially Distancing Wind

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Speaker 1: and where possible and what we're out of Fantasy Camp. Now,

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Speaker 1: we got through fantasy camp over the last month, so

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Speaker 1: I appreciate all the folks who stopped by to talk

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Speaker 1: to me about the different divisions of the NFL. But

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Speaker 1: now we are full on into I guess training camp.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I know, guys haven't gotten out in pads

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Speaker 1: you know, kind of an altered form. So uh, we

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Speaker 1: had a whole new stage of what we're doing with

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Speaker 1: the podcast, but I wanted to do something really fun

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Speaker 1: and really special today. Had sort of been cooking this

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Speaker 1: Before I get too far into that, I do want

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Speaker 1: to say hello, it's my faithful producer, Senior Edward L. Murphy,

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Speaker 1: Esquire Murphy. What's going on? Well, the happiest I've been

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Speaker 1: sure if that's sad about my life or just my

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Speaker 1: love of my teams, but yeah, it's pretty great. Rangers

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Speaker 1: is now a draft lottery. Yeah, you know, I especially

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Speaker 1: because I know you as a Knicks fan. You were

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Speaker 1: going to be at Nick. So you know, you guys

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Speaker 1: I think it's the soul for a soul. It's like

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Speaker 1: like I said, I'm really fired up about what's going

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Speaker 1: guy who actually was on this pod just a couple

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Speaker 1: all over the place. He just started his own new micropod.

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Speaker 1: Please welcome back to the show, the one only James Co.

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Speaker 1: James Co, welcome back, man, how are you. I'm doing great, man,

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Speaker 1: It's good to be back. I appreciate you bringing everybody

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Speaker 1: What up, fellas? Happy to be here? This is super exciting.

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Speaker 1: I can't remember when all of us have been on

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Speaker 1: I mean, if we're still living off of his college tape,

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Speaker 1: I get exciting, exciting college player, But when he's hit

430
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Speaker 1: the NFL, we we really haven't seen much. So I

431
00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:53,919
Speaker 1: would be surprised, especially given the severity of the charges

432
00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,159
Speaker 1: levied against him. I would be very surprised if we

433
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Speaker 1: ever saw him in the NFL again. Yeah, UM, you know,

434
00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:02,680
Speaker 1: it's it's definitely unfortunate, But like I said, he's got

435
00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:05,399
Speaker 1: some bigger issues to worry about two straighten out before

436
00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:07,320
Speaker 1: we worry about football. But it does seem as though

437
00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:09,920
Speaker 1: his his football career may have have passed him by

438
00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:11,520
Speaker 1: before we ever got to really see what what do

439
00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:13,800
Speaker 1: he could be at the NFL level? Um? All right,

440
00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:15,720
Speaker 1: so I know what the folks are starting to get

441
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Speaker 1: their their drafts up and going. Um if you guys,

442
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I know there's no specific time to

443
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Speaker 1: do a draft, but do you guys have any ideas

444
00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:26,439
Speaker 1: of win now is a good time to do the

445
00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:28,639
Speaker 1: draft because we have COVID concerns and we don't have

446
00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:31,320
Speaker 1: training camp. Is it better to wait later? Is it

447
00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:32,840
Speaker 1: better to go earlier? I mean, how are you guys

448
00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:35,879
Speaker 1: feeling about that? I'm always a fan of going as

449
00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:40,480
Speaker 1: late as possible for injuries, roster shakeups, what have you. Um,

450
00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:42,280
Speaker 1: So the later you can hold out, the better and

451
00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:45,479
Speaker 1: we'll know hopefully more about COVID and its impact on

452
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Speaker 1: the season and teams. All right, So let's let's kind

453
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Speaker 1: of talk some some draft stuff here, right. I feel

454
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Speaker 1: like we've got kind of the top two picks sort

455
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Speaker 1: of settled. Right. McCaffrey's generally going number one, uh Sae

456
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Speaker 1: Kwon Barkley is going generally number two franchise. If there's

457
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Speaker 1: a guy that you were targeting at number three, if

458
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Speaker 1: you're in that number three slots, Uh, is there a

459
00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,920
Speaker 1: particular guy you've got your eye on there? Yeah, I'm

460
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Speaker 1: going Michael Thomas, no question. I don't care about drafting

461
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Speaker 1: and running back first. I want Michael Thomas. He was

462
00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:19,480
Speaker 1: especially in PPR. He was an absolute fantasy point machine

463
00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:23,119
Speaker 1: last year. He's got another season to Drew Brees under center. Like,

464
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Speaker 1: why would you not want Michael Thomas to anchor your

465
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Speaker 1: fantasy team? I I you know you're looking at guys

466
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Speaker 1: like Zeke or who else is around that area. Let's

467
00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:35,440
Speaker 1: see here, Camara is around there. Yeah, Like, I don't

468
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Speaker 1: want to take on take a chance on Camara. He

469
00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:40,080
Speaker 1: was kind of a DoD last year. Derrick Henry is

470
00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:46,480
Speaker 1: just hype off, like the late season surge. I don't

471
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Speaker 1: want to I don't want to take him third. I'm

472
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Speaker 1: not taking him a third over. I love Henry. I

473
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,800
Speaker 1: love Derrick Henry. He's a beast. But a lot of

474
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Speaker 1: these guys in that area have questions marks, and I

475
00:22:57,040 --> 00:23:00,960
Speaker 1: don't think Michael Thomas has a single question mark about him. Harmon,

476
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:02,600
Speaker 1: I remember there was like a two week period on

477
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Speaker 1: Twitter where Twitter tried to tell me that Michael Thomas

478
00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:09,040
Speaker 1: wasn't a good wide receiver. Um, but I hallucinate that

479
00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:12,679
Speaker 1: or what I mean, it's it's just a really weird

480
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:16,600
Speaker 1: and kind of disingenuous discussion. So but like every year,

481
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,680
Speaker 1: it happens because he supposedly runs a lot of slant routes.

482
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Speaker 1: I mean, he does run a decent amount of slant routes,

483
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Speaker 1: but the reality is like a lot of big time

484
00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:28,080
Speaker 1: wide receivers DeAndre Hopkins, a J. Green, Um, you know,

485
00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:30,120
Speaker 1: other players like d J. Moore, like comes to kind

486
00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,600
Speaker 1: of these up and coming guys. Teams want to target

487
00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:36,760
Speaker 1: good players on those routes because they're very efficient. But regardless,

488
00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,240
Speaker 1: I think that's kind of just a disingenuous discussion. My

489
00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:41,199
Speaker 1: my answer to this question is Alvin Kamara. I know,

490
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Speaker 1: franchise talked about it a little bit. I had him

491
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Speaker 1: at running back one last year. Obviously that did not

492
00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:49,479
Speaker 1: work out according to the player himself. He tweeted earlier

493
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Speaker 1: this offseason that he was, you know, seventy five percent

494
00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,040
Speaker 1: last year and he still had I mean, I think

495
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Speaker 1: a pretty decent season. But really, if he's a hundred

496
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Speaker 1: percent this year. I think the outlook that forced me

497
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:04,680
Speaker 1: to have him at running back one last year still

498
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Speaker 1: exists this year. You know, I think he's he was

499
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Speaker 1: averaging twenty touches per game in his first five healthy games,

500
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Speaker 1: and there's so much bankable touchdown you know, positive regression

501
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,960
Speaker 1: coming his way because he only he was really having

502
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 1: trouble finding the end zone last year. But we know

503
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Speaker 1: he is a proven touchdown score. Is still one of

504
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Speaker 1: the figurehead pieces of that Saint's offense. I think he

505
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,960
Speaker 1: can easily catch ninety passes and score double digit touchdown.

506
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Speaker 1: So he's my running back three this year. Uh. Anybody

507
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Speaker 1: have a non Saint that they post Stone four at

508
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Speaker 1: the number three spot. I was gonna join arm And

509
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Speaker 1: on the Camaro train because last year he battled through

510
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Speaker 1: so many injuries too. I think he had ankle injuries.

511
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Speaker 1: He revealed he had like a tear on his knee

512
00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:45,639
Speaker 1: or something too that really slowed him down, so he

513
00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,360
Speaker 1: still had its. Weirdly, he's had eighty one receptions every

514
00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 1: single year of his career. I'm not super threatened by

515
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Speaker 1: Emmanuel Sanders coming over. I think he's going to pick

516
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Speaker 1: up some of that extra work from the other you know,

517
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 1: Hodgepodge of wide receivers they have, but Camara is gonna

518
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Speaker 1: have a solid worklo what I mean, they'll mix Latavious

519
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:03,160
Speaker 1: Murray and but I think his harmon said, they're receiving

520
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Speaker 1: work and the touchdown upside make him an easy choice

521
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Speaker 1: for me at number three, just to head over Zeke. Alright,

522
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Speaker 1: got yeah. I I love Alvin Kamara and I don't

523
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Speaker 1: think you can go wrong at three with I'll tell

524
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Speaker 1: you what with with any of those trio, whether we're

525
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Speaker 1: talking about Michael Thomas, Alvin Kamara. But I would lean

526
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Speaker 1: just just a bit um towards Ezeki. Elliott Dallas had

527
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Speaker 1: the second best offense based off d v o A

528
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:33,120
Speaker 1: last year. Saints weren't far behind. I think there were four. Um,

529
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Speaker 1: But I think we're kind of for me, I'm kind

530
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Speaker 1: of sort of banking on the fact that Zeke has

531
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Speaker 1: attached to this high powered offense with a really good quarterback. UM.

532
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,520
Speaker 1: Not saying Drew Brees is not a great quarterback. He is, absolutely,

533
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Speaker 1: but he's also forty one years old. Um. There is

534
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:51,680
Speaker 1: I think a little bit of elevated concern there. Um,

535
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Speaker 1: And to me, I just feel overall that I think

536
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:58,240
Speaker 1: Dallas's offense is a little bit more secure. I think

537
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:01,400
Speaker 1: their their schedule is a little bit are favorable, and

538
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Speaker 1: Zeke has just been so rock solid. I mean, Alvin

539
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Speaker 1: Premara did have a little bit of a downturn last year,

540
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Speaker 1: and I do, as Harmon mentioned, um expect to see

541
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Speaker 1: an uptick and scoring. But overall, Zeke has just been

542
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:18,960
Speaker 1: an absolute rock at that position. And for me at three,

543
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Speaker 1: I don't want to lose my draft there. I would

544
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Speaker 1: just lean just just a bit towards Ezekiel Elliott at three.

545
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Speaker 1: Do you feel like we've kind of gotten bored of Zeke?

546
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,959
Speaker 1: That's like I think that like as a as a

547
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,679
Speaker 1: fantasy hive mind or whatever, we just got accustomed to

548
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:35,840
Speaker 1: the fact, like, Okay, this is what he is. He

549
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,440
Speaker 1: finally got more of that receiving work the last couple

550
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 1: of years that people were really clamoring for. But like

551
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 1: co said, he's a pretty good bet to lead the

552
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,760
Speaker 1: league in rushing touchdowns because this is gonna be one

553
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,000
Speaker 1: of the best offenses in the league. They've added juice

554
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,160
Speaker 1: to the passing games, So I mean, yeah, I think

555
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,399
Speaker 1: it's like when I'm looking at Zeke. I just feel

556
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Speaker 1: like I'm personally like, yeah, I know exactly what I'm

557
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 1: gonna get, and I'm just you know, I'm more of

558
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 1: a like tempted by the unknown and the high ceilings.

559
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,119
Speaker 1: So I think that's why I'm going Camara. But I

560
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:08,440
Speaker 1: do think I mean, there's no question that Zeke is great,

561
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,159
Speaker 1: and he's just like I said, I think we've just

562
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 1: become accustomed to what he is. And I think I

563
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:15,160
Speaker 1: think some of that logic has got me like, that's

564
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 1: why I've been leading Michael Thomas. Right. Maybe it's because

565
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 1: you know, we sort of know what Zeke is. And

566
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,879
Speaker 1: that's not to say that it's bad, right, Um, but

567
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,479
Speaker 1: I feel like Michael Thomas has become that sort of

568
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 1: like think outside the box, sort of pick at number three. Right.

569
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:30,880
Speaker 1: We we've gotten so accustomed to just being locked into

570
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 1: running backs in those top three or four spots, um,

571
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,439
Speaker 1: and now this this PPR world that we all live in,

572
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 1: regardless of you know how I feel about PPR, this

573
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 1: is what we do. Let's take advantage of the situation, right,

574
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 1: and so why not go after a guy who seems

575
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 1: almost a lock to catch well over a hundred passes?

576
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,119
Speaker 1: Just because of how that SAME's offense runs and the

577
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:51,880
Speaker 1: fact that he's going to be the most targeted guy.

578
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 1: I don't think between Camara Thomas Zeke, I don't think

579
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,439
Speaker 1: there's a wrong answer. I just think I feel like

580
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 1: it's become maybe the most thought about position in the

581
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,160
Speaker 1: draft right now, because, like I said that, the first

582
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,440
Speaker 1: two spots are locked up. Everything else after that maybe

583
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,400
Speaker 1: some questions, but three seems to be where a lot

584
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 1: of the real conversations happening right now. Uh, only slight

585
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:17,119
Speaker 1: conservaive Zeke is the passing game work since they loaded

586
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 1: up that offense more, they got rid of the husk

587
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 1: of Jason Witten, they drafted Ceedee Lamb, and now like

588
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 1: Art is coming in as the head coach, and in

589
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 1: his years in Green Bay, he wasn't like super heavily

590
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 1: reliant on targeting his backs like Eddie Lacey got a

591
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:34,639
Speaker 1: decent amount of work and some of those other guys

592
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 1: in there now. Granted, Zeke is a far better player

593
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 1: than any of them, but I just wonder what so

594
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 1: many miles defeat if his passing game work is going

595
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 1: to dip down into more of like a forty to

596
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 1: fifty target range as opposed to the like seventy to ninety.

597
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 1: It was the last couple of years. Uh so we've

598
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 1: all put in our votes for who should be the

599
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 1: number three overall pick. Only six of eligible Americans voted

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Speaker 1: in on the field or at the pole. Isn't good enough.

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Speaker 1: and encourage voter education, registration, and activation of players, clubs,

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Speaker 1: ongoing conversations with players, NFL Votes will leverage the NFL

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Speaker 1: like that that was smooth. I just kind of slid

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Speaker 1: that in. I was that was like the best segue

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Speaker 1: I've ever heard. Appreciate that through me. I was like, wait,

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Speaker 1: where are we going? Oh, let's go um so franchise?

613
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Speaker 1: Um has there been has there been clamoring to make

614
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Speaker 1: Clyde Edwards ti Larra overall? Now? Like that's just like

615
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Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like Twitter is going to

616
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 1: be pounding on your door for that any day now.

617
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 1: Not yet, But I'm telling you if he comes out

618
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 1: of the gate hot, this is what happens. They come

619
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Speaker 1: out of the gate hot week one, everyone sees a

620
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 1: big week and they're like, let's put him in a

621
00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:00,040
Speaker 1: ninety nine right now, And it's like, you gotta in

622
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 1: that ninety nine. You don't just you don't just get that.

623
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 1: After one week he's at sixty nine, which is nice,

624
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,720
Speaker 1: but it's gonna be a while till he's a ninety nine. Wait,

625
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 1: he's he's the same as uh nine earlier. Oh my bad,

626
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 1: my bad. No, I don't know what I messed up, guys,

627
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 1: I mess fix your game, bro, fix your game. I

628
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 1: messed up. Or it was just gonna be a bit

629
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Speaker 1: where every player franchise talked about. Yeah he's Patrick Mahomes

630
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Speaker 1: Edwards Hilaire's seventy four overall launch. All right, that's fair, alright,

631
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 1: So Harmony, how high is too high to draft c

632
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 1: e h at this point? So here's the deal. The

633
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 1: only guys, like, in terms of running backs that I'm

634
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 1: absolutely not considering, uh you know, taking Clyde ends Layer

635
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 1: before these guys is Chris McCaffrey Sae Kwon Barkley, Alvin Kamara,

636
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 1: Zeke and Derrick Henry. I think after that it's fair game.

637
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 1: I think you can take him a head of Dalvin Cook.

638
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 1: I think you could take him ahead of Aaron Jones. Now,

639
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 1: if you want to go like what Franchise said going

640
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 1: wide receiver, I think Michael Thomas certainly is a safer

641
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 1: pick than any of these running backs that I just

642
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 1: talked about. I think Davante Adams is my wide receiver

643
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 1: one this year. I think you can take him over

644
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 1: Clyde Edwards Layer. But if you're considering a running back

645
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 1: after that top six, I think the rookie at Kansas

646
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 1: City is as good of a bet as anybody, because

647
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 1: sure he might not, you know, have of the backfield touches.

648
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 1: There might be some DeAndre Washington sprinkled in, you know,

649
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,959
Speaker 1: the ghost of Darwin Thompson. He might get out there too.

650
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 1: If he's even a real person, hard to say, probably

651
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 1: just my personal preseason favorite from last year. Whatever. Like there,

652
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 1: There's plenty of guys in the passing game too, But

653
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 1: Edwards Layer is a great receiver coming out of college,

654
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 1: and just the reality of it is is or sixty

655
00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 1: of the backfield touches in Kansas City is worth a

656
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 1: lot more than seventy to seventy of some of these

657
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 1: other offenses. And I'd put Green Bay in there, I'd

658
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 1: put Minnesota in there, and all these other players. So

659
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 1: I think those are the only running backs. I'm absolutely

660
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 1: not taking them over. So you're you're looking at him

661
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 1: around pick seven, eight nine. Alright, you're the one wh

662
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 1: usually just runs and jumps off a cliff for guys

663
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 1: like this, So you're taking you're taking at like three, right,

664
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 1: three or four? Yea, I would take him at five.

665
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 1: I mean it's funny, you know, Um Harmon talks about,

666
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 1: you know, taking him before guys like Dalvin Cook, maybe

667
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 1: Michael Thomas and things like that. I mean, if you're

668
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,719
Speaker 1: gonna do that, you've got to take him at five. Um,

669
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 1: you're talking about CMC C kwan Z Camara and then

670
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 1: maybe Clyde Edwards Hilaire. I mean, that's that's how high

671
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 1: I might take him. Look, I think Dalvin is in

672
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 1: a perfect system for him. They don't ask him do

673
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 1: too much except run to the outside. Um, and that

674
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 1: offense is gonna be pretty much exactly the same. Gary

675
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 1: Kubiak is gonna be running the offense there in Minnesota.

676
00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 1: We know what he's done with fantasy running back throughout

677
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 1: his career. So I think Dalvin is certainly in consideration

678
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 1: for five. Michael Thomas we've talked about at length. But

679
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 1: Clyde Edwards, hilarry, you're talking about the lead back on

680
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 1: the you know, the best offense in the league. Um,

681
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 1: I think five is actually an okay price for him.

682
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 1: And just because he's a rookie and quote unquote we

683
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 1: don't know what he's gonna do. It's like, who cares.

684
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 1: We're talking about the lead back in the best offense.

685
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 1: You put that in a vacuum. You're taking that guy

686
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 1: at five. I mean that's and I think that's an

687
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 1: okay price for him. Now if he falls to seven

688
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 1: or right, even better, But I think, to me overall,

689
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 1: I think you could take him at five. I mean,

690
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 1: here's I guess I've I've forgotten myself right because I

691
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 1: was remember I mean, I was waving the flagg for

692
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 1: Kareem Hunt left and right, you know, and it took

693
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 1: it took injuries for him to get on the field

694
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 1: and become the star that he did in his rookie season,

695
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 1: and so for I don't I don't know why I've

696
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 1: become so nervous about c e H as though there's

697
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 1: gonna be some major committee because that's just not the

698
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 1: Andy Reid way. I mean, when he has a guy

699
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 1: that he likes, he goes with that guy. And so

700
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 1: I sort of have been hesitant. Um, I mean Kareem Hunt.

701
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 1: Even when Kareem Hunt was was bawling and doing big

702
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 1: things like we would randomly see you know, random guys exactly,

703
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Westrick West would come in.

704
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 1: Remember when when there was like clear dump off situations like,

705
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:31,839
Speaker 1: oh my god, I need these Kareem Hunt dump off

706
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 1: PPR points, I need these so bad, and it was

707
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 1: chart Kendrick West. But that's in there in the two

708
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 1: minutes row. That's awful and that's I think, to me,

709
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 1: that's what Andy Reid has done. Um, that's the Andy

710
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 1: Reid way over the last few years. And I would

711
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 1: anticipate some frustration there. If you're gonna own c e H,

712
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 1: You're you're definitely gonna see Rando guys pop in. But

713
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 1: I think overall, still, you know you're taking the upside

714
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,320
Speaker 1: and see a certainly presents that. The only reason I

715
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,280
Speaker 1: feel like we ever saw like Charcandrick West and Spencer

716
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 1: Ware and some of these guys when Kareem Hunt was

717
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 1: at his peak was that they really didn't trust Kareem

718
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,800
Speaker 1: Hunt as a pass protector and as a passing game asset,

719
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 1: which he's really grown into. That's like all he did

720
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 1: in Cleveland last year, but that was the big Like

721
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 1: they liked the way Charcandrick West was a blocker, you know,

722
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,319
Speaker 1: same with Spencer Ware, all that type of usual young

723
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 1: running backs uff. But that's not really a concern with

724
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 1: this particular player because he was so prolific as a

725
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 1: pass catcher in l s U. So that's the only

726
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,320
Speaker 1: reason that I think this is a different situation and

727
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 1: we will probably see like like I said, I think

728
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 1: you're gonna see DeAndre Wata, You're going to see some

729
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 1: of these other goofballs in the backfield there. But for

730
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 1: the most part, I think he's going to get the

731
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 1: primary touches and we'll be flying there way Harmon. I

732
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 1: need Darwin Thompson to be a real person because I

733
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,360
Speaker 1: took him very late in a Best Ball draft, so

734
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,439
Speaker 1: it would be nice he actually has a corporeal form

735
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 1: that gets on the field and actually touches the football.

736
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 1: It was very real to all of us in August

737
00:35:55,200 --> 00:36:02,880
Speaker 1: last year, and then yeah, super real man. It was like,

738
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 1: don't you can't leave. You can't leave a draft in

739
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen without Darwin Thompson and Justice Hill. I felt

740
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:12,879
Speaker 1: like that was like these two guys might not even

741
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,320
Speaker 1: like Justice Hill might not make the Ravens. You know,

742
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,400
Speaker 1: like Darwin Thompson again, is he a real person? So

743
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 1: I can't wait to see like Antonio Gibson just you know,

744
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 1: not even be in the end. Uh So, if you were,

745
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 1: if you were of the mind to reach for a

746
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 1: quarterback early, I know there's there's only one of two choices.

747
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 1: Which of the two choices would you reach for? If

748
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 1: that if you were a kind to doing that, well,

749
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 1: can I suggest a third? Absolutely? Because the one I

750
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 1: want to reach for this year is Deshaun Watson. I

751
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 1: think we've had a tough time of quarterbacks repeating. There's

752
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,280
Speaker 1: a lot of hard things to hit, you know, touchdown

753
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 1: aggression and offenses and things. You know, game script is changing.

754
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,800
Speaker 1: But you look at Watson and the last couple of

755
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 1: years he's been a top five quarterback. He's one of

756
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 1: the only quarterbacks to hit three plus me teach the

757
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 1: last two years since he came into the league. He's

758
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:04,799
Speaker 1: the only quarterback to average twenty plus points a game,

759
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 1: and that's span and he's done all of this with

760
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:12,279
Speaker 1: like relatively mediocre average statistical numbers. He's just such a

761
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:14,359
Speaker 1: good efficient quarterback. But he's never had more than twenty

762
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 1: six passing touchdowns. He's never finished in the top ten

763
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 1: in passing yards. So what if, given the deficiencies in

764
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 1: Houston's defense, the weapons they got, if Will Fuller stays healthy,

765
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 1: what if Deshaun Watson balls out and throws thirty five

766
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 1: touchdowns and yards is here, then he added his rushing

767
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 1: I think he's the clear easily the QB one in

768
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 1: that situation. So he's the guy I can get at

769
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 1: a little bit more of a discount instead of Lamar

770
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:40,399
Speaker 1: Jackson and Patrick Mahomes. I think he's got the talent

771
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 1: around him. He's been in the offense long enough, and

772
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 1: he is talented enough as a quarterback to be the

773
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:47,320
Speaker 1: guy that this year vaults to the QB one status.

774
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 1: So are you basically saying that real Fuller plus Brandon

775
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 1: Cooks is greater than DeAndre Hopkins and Cobb. There's a

776
00:37:54,840 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 1: lot of evidence statistically that he's another body. But anyways,

777
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 1: it's not like it's not like Hopkins is the only

778
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 1: reason Watson was ever successful. There were stats that he

779
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 1: actually had like a higher QVR when he was throwing

780
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 1: the players, not DeAndre Hopkins. So I'm saying there's a

781
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 1: chance where more of it's on his shoulders this year.

782
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 1: And the star player we've seen shown up a lot

783
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 1: of times in the playoffs and in big games in

784
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,800
Speaker 1: the season, is there the entire year and just lights

785
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 1: this stuff on fire. Do any of you guys have

786
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 1: a good feel for this, because I agree with with

787
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:34,360
Speaker 1: what Gilhart saying, like I think Watson's gonna be a

788
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 1: really good player this year. You mean, he's always a

789
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,479
Speaker 1: really good player, but I think like losing Hopkins could

790
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 1: like force him to be a better real life quarterback,

791
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 1: even if he doesn't because he's not just gonna rely

792
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 1: on this one guy. But do any of you guys

793
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 1: have a feel for how this Texans offense outside of

794
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 1: Watson is going to shake out? Because like theoretically, on paper,

795
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:56,839
Speaker 1: they have a very talented receiver corps. But every one

796
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 1: of them has a ton of questions. They have a

797
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 1: past matching, they have two pass catching running backs. Like

798
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 1: I find myself taking the injury discount on Will Fuller

799
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 1: because you know, I'm a sucker. But do any do

800
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 1: any of you guys like other than that, I have

801
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 1: any feel for how this is gonna go? Because I

802
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 1: was doing projections yesterday, I'm like, just what the hell

803
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 1: like throwing my hands up in the air looking at

804
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 1: this receiver corps or wide receiver corps, Like it's like

805
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 1: the movie Multiplicity, Right, It's just like it's like the

806
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 1: same guy a whole bunch of times, right, I mean

807
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 1: Will Fuller, Brandon Cooks is Randall Cobb. I mean so

808
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:31,360
Speaker 1: like Canny still don't forget. I mean it's like the

809
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 1: same guy four different times in this offense. So I mean, ideally,

810
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 1: you you get a commune. Maybe I don't know. I

811
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:41,840
Speaker 1: was I was asking somebody recently, like, between Will Fuller

812
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 1: and Brandon Cooks, do you get a combined games out

813
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 1: of the two of them? Right? Like, I think that

814
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:49,839
Speaker 1: that's the question you con't have to ask yourself when

815
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 1: you're when you're making the decisions and draft any one

816
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 1: of those guys. Yeah, with you, Harmon. I've taken shots

817
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 1: at all of these guys because their adp s are

818
00:39:56,960 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 1: all like ridiculously considering the quarterback there cat too, But

819
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:03,359
Speaker 1: I think that's baking in the uncertainty of like Will

820
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 1: Fuller's hamstrings, Brandon Cook's concussions, wish version of Randall Cobb

821
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 1: is going to show up in which version of Kenny

822
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:12,320
Speaker 1: Stills is going to show up. But I have no

823
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 1: field other than I think Will Fuller's probably gonna be

824
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,319
Speaker 1: the presumptive number one, since he's been there and he's

825
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 1: got the tools, and we've seen what he can do

826
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 1: with Watson, so I love him at his injury discount

827
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 1: as well. But otherwise I'm just kind of taking stabs

828
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 1: with these guys and hoping it works out, because like

829
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,439
Speaker 1: Cooks and Fuller are going in like the eleven dish,

830
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 1: ninth to eleventh dish round, and then Randall Cobb and

831
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 1: Kenny Stills are always hanging around at the back end

832
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 1: of drafts, and I'm more than happy to just chuckling

833
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 1: in is my wide receiver five and hope for the best. Yeah,

834
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 1: I think you go for Kenny Stills thinking that Will

835
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 1: Fuller and Brandon Cooks are going to be out at

836
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:45,399
Speaker 1: some point for any given amount of time. And Kenny

837
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 1: Stills is pretty reliable and he's been in Texas in

838
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 1: Texas in Houston for what a year or two now,

839
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 1: so he knows, he knows what's going on there. He

840
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:54,920
Speaker 1: is a report with Watson. I think he's a good

841
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 1: a good late round dart throw there. I mean, I

842
00:40:57,760 --> 00:40:59,799
Speaker 1: was gonna ask you, franchise, like, which of those guys

843
00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 1: is the highest rated? Because that was that was how

844
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:05,360
Speaker 1: I was going to make my decision. Um to me

845
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 1: that they're all you know RAD sixty nine, please, Like,

846
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 1: I just want to off the top of my head,

847
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 1: Brandon Cooks is probably the highest rated. But I mean,

848
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 1: let me let me throw some filters in the spreadsheet

849
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 1: and well, while franchises kind of messing around with those filters,

850
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 1: I'll just say this, I'm not optimistic about the Texans offense.

851
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:27,319
Speaker 1: Um for me, I think Bill O'Brien has regressed each

852
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 1: and every year. His offenses are predictable, they're bad, and

853
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 1: basically the bottom line is, uh, they have relied on

854
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,840
Speaker 1: to Shaun Watson and new Copkins to just make plays,

855
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 1: you lose a guy who's potential future Hall of Famer

856
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:44,320
Speaker 1: and new Copkins. And I like Brandon Cooks as a player,

857
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:46,359
Speaker 1: but I mean, come on, He's had four concussions over

858
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:49,360
Speaker 1: the last two seasons. Will Fuller has missed twenty games

859
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 1: over his last three years. Kiki Qt has missed sixteen

860
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:56,360
Speaker 1: games over his last two years. David Johnson looked like

861
00:41:56,440 --> 00:42:00,040
Speaker 1: an absolute ghost of a ghost. Uh last year. We

862
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 1: don't know what we're gonna get from him. There's too

863
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:06,759
Speaker 1: much uncertainty, uh in this on this offense. And and

864
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:10,840
Speaker 1: you mentioned Kenny Stills. I'm just I guess I'm just surprised,

865
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 1: you know, because Kenny still has got five starts last year.

866
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:18,799
Speaker 1: And in those five starts, okay, so he got playing time.

867
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:22,240
Speaker 1: He ever thirty three yards receiving in those five starts.

868
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:25,320
Speaker 1: I think he's an okay player, But he's at this

869
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 1: point in his career, he's he's a jack. He's just

870
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 1: a guy. Um So, yeah, no, I'm not really that

871
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 1: optimistic about the Texans offense again, mostly because I just

872
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 1: see Bill O'Brien's future on the wall and it does

873
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:40,759
Speaker 1: not look good. And and I think we've seen this

874
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 1: in the NFL a lot where head coaches have started

875
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:47,399
Speaker 1: to lose their teams and and then they just fall

876
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 1: off a cliff. And that's kind of where I feel

877
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:53,320
Speaker 1: like the Texans are approaching right now. Um. They're putting

878
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 1: a lot of band aids on some glaring holes and

879
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 1: they're hoping it works out. And for me, I just

880
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 1: do not believe in Bill O'Brien, and I will fade

881
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:04,359
Speaker 1: that team all day long. What's not to believe James?

882
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 1: I mean, he blew a point leading the playoffs and

883
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:09,400
Speaker 1: then gotten more power within the organization afterwards. Like I

884
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 1: don't I don't really know how that worked, but I

885
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 1: need to get on. Got to respect that, got to

886
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 1: respect my faith to de Shaw, not d o b

887
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 1: So we've seen a lot of coaches get propped up

888
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 1: by great quarterbacks for a long time, McCarthy, So you

889
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 1: know it can happen again in Houston. Oh man, Um,

890
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 1: all right, we'll go around and horn on this one.

891
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 1: Is there a player or players if you have more

892
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:34,840
Speaker 1: than one after the third round that you are trying

893
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:37,799
Speaker 1: to draft at all costs. I'll start with you, harmon

894
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:40,400
Speaker 1: anybody that you really make sure you're making sure you

895
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 1: have to get Yeah, I'm gonna give you two because

896
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:46,320
Speaker 1: I'm a cheater, but also uh, number one because the

897
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 1: first one is gonna be Terry mclauren, and we kind

898
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:50,239
Speaker 1: of already talked about it. We kind of already talked

899
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:51,919
Speaker 1: about a little bit earlier. But just let me read

900
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 1: off this. Indulge me here for a second to read

901
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 1: off a little reception perception All Star stats on Terry

902
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:01,799
Speaker 1: McCord seventy six sent success rate verse man coverage as

903
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 1: a rookie that was at the eighty nine percentile over

904
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 1: the last six years. Seventy nine point seven percent success

905
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 1: rate verse press. That's the percentile excellent across the route tree, deep, short, intermediate, whatever.

906
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 1: He crushed it. His success rate verse man coverage is

907
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 1: the fourth best for any rookie ever charted says two

908
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 1: thousand fourteen, third best in success rate verse press. The

909
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 1: only two players to beat him during that time frame

910
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham and Michael Thomas. We obviously know what those

911
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,880
Speaker 1: guys are. Great. He has the thirty fourth best score

912
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:33,800
Speaker 1: since the entire series has been you know, in inception

913
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 1: since two thousand fourteen. So I think he is an

914
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 1: elite player. That is just starting to ascend. And everybody

915
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 1: can yap about, you know, Dwayne Haskins as much as

916
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 1: you do they want, But the last three games Haskins

917
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 1: was passable. Mclauren crushed it statistically in those games. And

918
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 1: even if you just give him the rate stats that

919
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 1: he had with Haskins last year, And like I said,

920
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 1: a twenty three percent target share in what I expect

921
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:00,919
Speaker 1: to be a pass heavy offense. And I think that's

922
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:03,800
Speaker 1: like target chair for Terry mclauren. But the rest of

923
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 1: the chuckle heads that they got in that passing game,

924
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:08,399
Speaker 1: I think it's pretty conservative. You easily get eight plus

925
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 1: catches eleven hunter plus yards, and then you're just talking

926
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 1: he's he gonna score six seven touchdowns or is the

927
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 1: ceiling higher than that? So I've got him ranked aggressively

928
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 1: at wide receiver thirteen, and I feel I feel fine

929
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 1: with that right up there with like Tyler Lockett and

930
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:24,759
Speaker 1: these these type of players. And then the other guy

931
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 1: is Markus Brown. I hope I'm not stealing anybody else's

932
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:29,959
Speaker 1: pick there, but I I can't leave a draft without

933
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:33,360
Speaker 1: Marcus Brown because balled out as a rookie despite the

934
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 1: fact that he wasn't healthy again. Another elite route run,

935
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 1: a really strong reception perception profile, and he just happens

936
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 1: to be attached to the m v P of last

937
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:44,239
Speaker 1: year in an offense that's gonna throw the ball more

938
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 1: this year. I think he's just gonna smash his ADP

939
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 1: this year too. Wow, girl, hard who you got? I

940
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:53,879
Speaker 1: love both of those picks. I've I've drafted a bunch

941
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 1: of Hollywood brown and tried to get Terry McLaurin, but

942
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 1: he's a darling of the fantasy community this season, so

943
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 1: he's a tough to get in some draft. Another guy

944
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 1: I love taking kind of in that same range, though,

945
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 1: is DJ Chark because he's lost a little bit of

946
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 1: his luster as opposed to the other guys because he's

947
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:12,839
Speaker 1: on the Jaguars, but he's that's a team that could

948
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 1: be bad. The defense doesn't look great. They could be

949
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 1: forced to pass a lot. Chark already went for over

950
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:19,360
Speaker 1: a thousand yards last year, proved he as a rapport

951
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:22,319
Speaker 1: with Minshew. Minshew targeted him a bunch in the red

952
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 1: zone as well, and Chart also kind of fits the

953
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 1: profile of now that Jay Gruden's there as the offensive coordinator,

954
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 1: the same type of wide receiver one Gruden had in

955
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 1: the past, and a j Green charts a you know,

956
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:35,800
Speaker 1: six ft four he ran like a four three forty.

957
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 1: I'm sure James already knows that and is fanning himself

958
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 1: over there. So you put together, he's got size, he's

959
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:43,759
Speaker 1: got speed, he's got talent, he's got a rapport with

960
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:46,240
Speaker 1: his quarterback, and he could be on a high volume,

961
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 1: terrible offense. I think we could see Allen Robinson circa

962
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:54,400
Speaker 1: liketeen whenever. His big breakout season was numbers in Jacksonville

963
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 1: for Chark. All right, who's who's on your list? Um?

964
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:01,799
Speaker 1: I love where mos start man and and I kind

965
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:04,799
Speaker 1: of sort of been touting him, um for a while now.

966
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 1: But again, if you're gonna be one of those guys

967
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 1: that designs to go kind of zero RB off the

968
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 1: top and you're looking for that that one home run

969
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:15,800
Speaker 1: running back pick in the mid rounds, I think, raheem,

970
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:17,840
Speaker 1: the dream is it man? For me? He's going somewhere

971
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:19,799
Speaker 1: in the middle of the fifth round and uh lad

972
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 1: the NFL in yards per carry last year I had

973
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 1: him grated out as a top fifteen running back despite

974
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 1: the fact that he just didn't get any starts last year. Um,

975
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 1: this is a player that was just phenomenal in a

976
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan run scheme. Um, last five games of the

977
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 1: regular season, we're talking about a guy that average fourteen

978
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:39,759
Speaker 1: total touches, so not a ton, but still turn that

979
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 1: into ninety total yards. Had seven touchdowns in those five games.

980
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 1: We know what he did in the playoffs. Had one

981
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 1: phenomenal game against Alex gellerhard boys every night when I

982
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 1: closed my eyes, what a trade wreck through gaps and

983
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 1: two hundred twenty rushing yards in that playoff game, four

984
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:06,320
Speaker 1: total touchdowns. And he also got thirty one touches in

985
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 1: that game. And I think that's important. Again again with

986
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:12,239
Speaker 1: Matt Breeda kind of traded away, UM, I think most

987
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 1: of it can. I'm not worried about Tevin Coleman. Let

988
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 1: me just put it to you that way. I know

989
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 1: Jerick McKinnon's coming back. Not worried about that dude either.

990
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 1: I think where he most, it's the real deal. Um.

991
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:24,479
Speaker 1: And And for me, he's a player that's chasing that bag.

992
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:27,799
Speaker 1: He wants that money. Man, He's chasing that bag. Every

993
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 1: single time he takes a stretch, runs to the outside.

994
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 1: He's just chasing bags, So give me that guy in

995
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:39,359
Speaker 1: the fifth round, all right, fresh eyes. Ye look, I'm

996
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 1: not as deep into these ADP s as you guys

997
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 1: might be because I've my fantasy advice has taken a

998
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:49,239
Speaker 1: back seat. So I'm coming to this with the perspective

999
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 1: of the average guy looking at ADPs for like the

1000
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:53,959
Speaker 1: first time in a couple of months, and I'm looking

1001
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 1: at DeVante Parker down here at like sixty one overall

1002
00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 1: a fantasy pros And why this dude was on fight

1003
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 1: early last year, like he exploded the second half of

1004
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 1: the or he had crazy amount of targets, like double

1005
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 1: digit targets the entire second half of the year. You

1006
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 1: got to under center in Miami. Now, this dude is

1007
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:17,439
Speaker 1: a wide receiver to like at worst, why would why

1008
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:19,360
Speaker 1: why would you not try to target him in the

1009
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 1: sixth round or wherever he's fallen. That that's just crazy

1010
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:24,320
Speaker 1: to me. Maybe you guys can talk me out of it,

1011
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:27,360
Speaker 1: but I think I think DeVante Parker is a solid

1012
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:30,800
Speaker 1: snag that late. Uh, I'm gonna go with another wide

1013
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 1: receiver that's coming even later than DeVante Parker. That's Michael Gallup,

1014
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:37,239
Speaker 1: who I have been I've been referring to as the

1015
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 1: Jan Brady of fantasy football, of this officers every because

1016
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:43,719
Speaker 1: like everybody talks about Amori Cooper, everybody talks about Ceedee Lamb,

1017
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:45,880
Speaker 1: and it's like Michael Gallup's like, hey, guys, I had

1018
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 1: eleven yards last year, right, And we talked about we

1019
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 1: talked earlier about Zeke and how we love Zeke because

1020
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 1: he's part of that high powered offense. He's attached there

1021
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 1: with a good quarterback. Well, Michael Gallup is too, uh

1022
00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:00,160
Speaker 1: in an offense that I think is transitioning more to

1023
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:03,839
Speaker 1: be Dack centric in terms of throwing the football. Um,

1024
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:06,759
Speaker 1: you know, I look, Amari Cooper, I love those big weeks.

1025
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 1: We all love those big, huge weeks, but you know

1026
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:11,279
Speaker 1: you also have to prepare for, you know, the follow

1027
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 1: up being, you know, one catch for fourteen yards and

1028
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 1: just having to try to live with that one. I

1029
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:19,880
Speaker 1: would prefer that steady week to week production that you

1030
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:22,239
Speaker 1: were getting from Michael Gallup last year. Uh. And I

1031
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 1: just think, look, you go with the the rookies having

1032
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:27,399
Speaker 1: maybe a longer learning curve because they haven't been able

1033
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 1: to get on the field yet. Gallup doesn't have that

1034
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:32,800
Speaker 1: plus once upon a time. We used to always believe

1035
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 1: in the third year breakout of wide receivers. If that

1036
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 1: holds true, This is year three from Michael Gallup. So

1037
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:40,759
Speaker 1: it just seems like he is is ready to really

1038
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:43,279
Speaker 1: explode this season. So I've been a big fan there.

1039
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 1: Um gee, Matt, Michael Gallup another MG. Actually he's got

1040
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:50,319
Speaker 1: to stan together, you know. And I know we only

1041
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:52,399
Speaker 1: played fourteen games last year, but in the fourteen games

1042
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 1: he played, he actually had a higher percentage of the

1043
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:58,840
Speaker 1: air yards at and the target chare at one than

1044
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 1: a Mariti Cooper did over the courts of the season.

1045
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 1: He's the I'm with these the only Cowboys receiver I

1046
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 1: want to draft at costs this year. He's going like

1047
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 1: fifty picks after Cooper. And also, I think, like people

1048
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:11,239
Speaker 1: worrying about Ceedee Lamb with Jason Wit and Randall Cobb gone,

1049
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:13,360
Speaker 1: that's gonna be a lot of Seedee Lamb's production. He

1050
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 1: ran a lot in the slot in college, and that's

1051
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 1: probably where the Cowboys are gonna gonna force him into

1052
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 1: the offense. I mean, that's a great trio, but that's

1053
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 1: a lot like I think a hundred and sixty six

1054
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:25,719
Speaker 1: targets walked out the door between Randall Cobb and Jason

1055
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 1: Witten last year, which is sixties targets together. And you

1056
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:35,320
Speaker 1: think now with those targets are gonna go to Ceedee

1057
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 1: Lamb and Blake Jarwin instead. Oh boy, that Cowboys offense

1058
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:40,360
Speaker 1: is gonna be fun, all right. I will say I

1059
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 1: will say this, I'm a little bit worried about consistency

1060
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:45,279
Speaker 1: week to week, um, for all three of those guys.

1061
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:47,879
Speaker 1: We already know Marty Cooper is very inconsistent. I think,

1062
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:50,839
Speaker 1: Ceedee Lamb, we don't know what we're gonna get there. Um.

1063
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:54,279
Speaker 1: But I mean even Michael Gallup to a degree, you know,

1064
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:56,440
Speaker 1: I do think there are gonna be weeks where he

1065
00:51:56,520 --> 00:52:00,400
Speaker 1: posts really bad fantasy scores. Um, But I think, uh,

1066
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:02,719
Speaker 1: and he might be even a player that we look

1067
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:04,920
Speaker 1: at from a season on perspective and say, oh, he

1068
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:07,279
Speaker 1: had a pretty good season. But if you're if you're

1069
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:09,800
Speaker 1: rolling with him on a week to week basis, it

1070
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:12,840
Speaker 1: might be painful some week. So I just I'm a

1071
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:15,440
Speaker 1: little bit worried there. But I agree with what you

1072
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:19,400
Speaker 1: guys are saying overall, Um, the guy's a phenomenal player,

1073
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:23,919
Speaker 1: and you know, running opposite of Amari Cooper Um has

1074
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:26,880
Speaker 1: been benefited Dak Prescott a lot. And I'll tell you what,

1075
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:28,920
Speaker 1: if we're talking about reaching for a quarterback, I think

1076
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott might be a candidate too, you know. I

1077
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:34,400
Speaker 1: mean again, this guy is chasing that money, um, and

1078
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:37,720
Speaker 1: he's got an awesome group of players. Finally, Jason Wenton

1079
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 1: has gone. Blake Jarwin maybe steps forward, but overall they

1080
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:44,760
Speaker 1: just get more athleticism at that position. And the past

1081
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:47,799
Speaker 1: catching group. Oh my goodness. I mean, and you throw

1082
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:51,399
Speaker 1: in Zeke and you throw in Zeke. I mean Dak

1083
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:55,799
Speaker 1: Prescott might legitimately be um uh the QB one um

1084
00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:58,400
Speaker 1: when all is said and done. That's how good his

1085
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:01,360
Speaker 1: supporting cast is. He is QUB two last year. I

1086
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 1: mean it's not it's not far off. Also, his rushing yards,

1087
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:06,759
Speaker 1: like in rushing touchdowns, he's usually a pretty good bet

1088
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:08,840
Speaker 1: to to take someone on into the end zone on

1089
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:12,920
Speaker 1: his own. Yeah, alright, the subside, right the guy's third

1090
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 1: round or later that you are avoiding at all costs. Harmon,

1091
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 1: go all the rams man. I mean other than like

1092
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 1: the only guy that I've really taken with Tyler Higby.

1093
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:22,839
Speaker 1: I took him in the scott Fish Bowl. I think

1094
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:25,839
Speaker 1: he's fine, even though I think there's some worry about him.

1095
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 1: You know, is Gerald ever going to come in? But honestly,

1096
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:31,400
Speaker 1: I have no idea what the hell this Ram's offense

1097
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:34,399
Speaker 1: is supposed to look like. Uh this year, I think

1098
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:38,320
Speaker 1: that Robert Woods and especially Cooper cup Are, you know,

1099
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 1: their roles are going to change a little bit this year.

1100
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:44,200
Speaker 1: I think Robert Woods is a pretty like safe bet

1101
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:46,239
Speaker 1: for volume. I think, what does the guy I love?

1102
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:48,920
Speaker 1: I really love Robert Woods this He's maybe the safest

1103
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 1: thing there that's I agree with you that I think

1104
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:53,360
Speaker 1: he's I think he's the safest bet in this offense.

1105
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:55,640
Speaker 1: But I just think there's no like, no ceiling with

1106
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 1: Robert Woods. I think that there's always somebody. It's not

1107
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:01,280
Speaker 1: that I dislike Woods, It's that I really just always

1108
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 1: find myself liking someone else where he's going in drafts.

1109
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 1: But the backfield, especially like I'm fine taking Darryl Henderson

1110
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:11,719
Speaker 1: because he's like the I guess again, the hive mind

1111
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 1: has just assumed it's gonna be the cam Akers Show.

1112
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:16,799
Speaker 1: But you know, these guys are drafted in pretty similar range,

1113
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:18,880
Speaker 1: and honestly, again, I think that this is gonna be

1114
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:22,319
Speaker 1: a committee backfield. So it's just been mostly that that's

1115
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 1: the team that I find myself having the most questions

1116
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 1: about and generally avoiding. All right, uh, Alex Galler, I'm

1117
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 1: avoiding all of the mid range tight ends after we

1118
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:36,400
Speaker 1: get past Kelsey Kittle and Andrews. Get him out of

1119
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 1: my life. And I don't want I don't want Darren Wahler,

1120
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 1: I don't want Hunter, Henry Evan, Ingram Gronk, pig By,

1121
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:46,279
Speaker 1: Jared Cook, all those guys not a chance at their

1122
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 1: adp s. All of them have massive concerns for like

1123
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:53,319
Speaker 1: workload or regression or news systems. And there's so many

1124
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 1: better players I'd rather take a chance on, like literally

1125
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:57,640
Speaker 1: all of the wide receivers we mentioned in your last

1126
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:01,160
Speaker 1: question than any of those guys, especially when you've got good,

1127
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:03,440
Speaker 1: high upside late round targets that you can take a

1128
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:07,080
Speaker 1: chance on or stream like Blake Jarwin and Mike Kisiki

1129
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:09,759
Speaker 1: and you know, even Dallas Goddard on the same team

1130
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:12,239
Speaker 1: with Earth. You know, there's just so many different guys

1131
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:15,279
Speaker 1: that'd rather take later than investing a like fourth to

1132
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:17,279
Speaker 1: ninth round pick on a tight end who I'm gonna

1133
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 1: hate starting every week. The times I've taken Hunter Henry,

1134
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:23,120
Speaker 1: like in mock drafts, I've just felt kind of queasy

1135
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 1: looking at the rest of my roster. It just it

1136
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 1: has not worked out. So I feel you on that one. Uh,

1137
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:30,239
Speaker 1: James car who are you? Who are you dodging? Like

1138
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:33,880
Speaker 1: the matrix right now. I talked about this on the

1139
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:36,279
Speaker 1: pod last a couple of weeks ago, but I just

1140
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 1: and I continue to hammer this point home, but I

1141
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:43,160
Speaker 1: just don't like Aaron Rodgers this year. And and it

1142
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 1: kills me to say that because he's one of my

1143
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 1: all time favorite players. He's from cal I love Aaron Rodgers.

1144
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:52,279
Speaker 1: But in fantasy, forget about it. I mean, and I

1145
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 1: know what people are thinking too. Write like he falls

1146
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 1: to to that mid to late eighth round. You're thinking,

1147
00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:59,440
Speaker 1: oh my god, I just gotta steal. I got Aaron Rodgers,

1148
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 1: the great Aaron in the eighth round. This is great, listen, bro.

1149
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 1: At this point, Aaron Rodgers from a fantasy perspective is

1150
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 1: is a streamable quarterback at best. That's it. I mean,

1151
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:12,920
Speaker 1: this is a guy that was outside the top twelve

1152
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:16,840
Speaker 1: in terms of per game scoring UM last year. I

1153
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:19,920
Speaker 1: think he actually was outside the top fIF team in

1154
00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:23,320
Speaker 1: twelve of the sixteen games he played. So this was

1155
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:27,919
Speaker 1: a player that hurts you almost each in every week

1156
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:31,040
Speaker 1: because you felt like you had to roll out Aaron Rodgers.

1157
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:33,920
Speaker 1: And when you investment a quarterback fantasy quarterback in that

1158
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:36,319
Speaker 1: eighth round again, you're feeling like I got to roll

1159
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:39,440
Speaker 1: this guy out there, and it's just not the case. Um.

1160
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:42,560
Speaker 1: To me, I look at the draft board. I see

1161
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:45,800
Speaker 1: Josh Allen going around later, I see Carson Wentz, Matt Stafford,

1162
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 1: Cam Newton, Daniel Jones. I could get Baker Mayfield four

1163
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:53,880
Speaker 1: rounds later than Aaron Rodgers signed me up at that

1164
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 1: price all day long. And to me, I just think

1165
00:56:56,719 --> 00:56:59,759
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers in the eighth round just does not make

1166
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 1: any sense whatsoever. Um. And he's a player that I

1167
00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:06,960
Speaker 1: will have zero shares of. I will say, I do

1168
00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:09,759
Speaker 1: feel like the muscle memory has sort of faded, because

1169
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:11,879
Speaker 1: for years, there, last couple years, there was that muscle

1170
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:13,880
Speaker 1: memory of like, hey, Aaron Rodgers, Like we would talk

1171
00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:16,080
Speaker 1: about who could finish the QB one and you know,

1172
00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:18,360
Speaker 1: we would throw out my homes or you know, Breaze

1173
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:20,280
Speaker 1: or whatever. But there was always that muscle memory that

1174
00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:21,920
Speaker 1: was like, hey, you know Aaron Rodgers could do it too.

1175
00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:24,240
Speaker 1: I feel like that's faded, Like we've all sort of

1176
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 1: realized that, um, you know, whether because it's just age

1177
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 1: or the situation or whatever, like it's just not the

1178
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:33,160
Speaker 1: same as it was, say five years ago. Uh. And

1179
00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:35,600
Speaker 1: I think I think fantasy drafters are going to start

1180
00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:37,280
Speaker 1: to kind of clue into that too. I think that's

1181
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:40,080
Speaker 1: gonna kind of start to take hold. Um, all right,

1182
00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:43,200
Speaker 1: franchise as who I know you are? You are Madden centric,

1183
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:45,200
Speaker 1: but who are who are guys that if you're fantasy

1184
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:48,920
Speaker 1: drafting you're sort of shying away from Right now, I'm

1185
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:54,760
Speaker 1: definitely shying away from Stefon Diggs this year. It's a

1186
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:57,760
Speaker 1: good call. He goes to Buffalo. I think they rank

1187
00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:00,600
Speaker 1: like seven and pass offense last year or the average

1188
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:03,880
Speaker 1: like two hundred past yards a game. Now, Yes, will

1189
00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:06,400
Speaker 1: he be the wide receiver one in Buffalo? Sure? How

1190
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 1: many touchdowns? Like, do you realistically see him scoring there?

1191
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 1: With John Brown and Cole Beasley still there? I think

1192
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:15,520
Speaker 1: they each scored six touchdowns last year. I think John

1193
00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:17,600
Speaker 1: Brown had over a thousand yards, but that was it.

1194
00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:21,120
Speaker 1: I just do not see him like having upside in

1195
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:23,920
Speaker 1: Buffalo at all and you're just gonna be hitting yourself

1196
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:26,280
Speaker 1: if you you know, he might be like a flex

1197
00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:28,600
Speaker 1: play if you need help. But I'm not taking him.

1198
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:30,920
Speaker 1: I think he's going like wide receiver twenty one, early

1199
00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:34,439
Speaker 1: sixth round. Maybe I'm avoiding at all costs there. Yeah,

1200
00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:37,720
Speaker 1: that makes me feel sad because I've drafted Stefan Diggs.

1201
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:41,600
Speaker 1: But I think everything you said is sort of spot on.

1202
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:43,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I would say that when I've drafted him

1203
00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:45,800
Speaker 1: and has come with a little bit of worry, like

1204
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:49,840
Speaker 1: it's not a confident selection. But I feel you. I

1205
00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:51,560
Speaker 1: mean I would say that I had, you know, you

1206
00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:53,400
Speaker 1: guys kind of touched on a lot of like cam Akers.

1207
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:54,960
Speaker 1: I just haven't been able to get on board with

1208
00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:59,320
Speaker 1: um because Sean mcvezie giving us a zero clarity right now.

1209
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:02,280
Speaker 1: Hunter Henry was another name that I sort of had

1210
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:03,960
Speaker 1: on my list that I can't really get on board with,

1211
00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:06,320
Speaker 1: just because I said, like, like like Galard said, those

1212
00:59:06,320 --> 00:59:09,560
Speaker 1: mid round tight ends, UH just really aren't doing anything

1213
00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:13,360
Speaker 1: for me. Um. I mean another name that people seem

1214
00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:15,440
Speaker 1: to sort of like, as I would say, a dart

1215
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:17,880
Speaker 1: throw but with upside, but I don't see right now,

1216
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:21,560
Speaker 1: is just j K Dobbins, Um, just because you know, look,

1217
00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:24,400
Speaker 1: I think mark Ingram still has a pretty strong grasp

1218
00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:28,000
Speaker 1: on that job there in in Baltimore. And there are

1219
00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:30,240
Speaker 1: so many other guys there, right, I mean, Justice Hill

1220
00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:35,160
Speaker 1: Harmony might still be alive. Who knows. Hard to say, Uh,

1221
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:37,560
Speaker 1: you know what, Gus Edwards is still hanging around. They're

1222
00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:39,800
Speaker 1: collecting a paycheck. I mean, there's so many other guys there.

1223
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:42,160
Speaker 1: Plus you gotta keep in mind that Lamar is still

1224
00:59:42,200 --> 00:59:44,720
Speaker 1: going to run. He's still going to score those rushing touchdowns.

1225
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 1: I think for Dobbins, after this year we get to uh,

1226
00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:52,360
Speaker 1: you know, we can have this conversation again about J K. Dobbins,

1227
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:54,600
Speaker 1: But I just haven't been willing to take a shot

1228
00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:57,920
Speaker 1: at him in this backfield, not really feeling confident that

1229
00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:02,000
Speaker 1: there's a there's a path to enough touches to make

1230
01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:04,920
Speaker 1: him actually relevant for me to to to hold a

1231
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:08,440
Speaker 1: roster spot for um. So that's that's that's all I

1232
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:12,040
Speaker 1: have to say about that. Um. All right, This is

1233
01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:13,720
Speaker 1: this is the part that I'm really here for. Right

1234
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:15,560
Speaker 1: as we kind of get close to the end of

1235
01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:18,120
Speaker 1: this thing hot Takes, because I always felt like our

1236
01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:20,520
Speaker 1: hot Take podcast was always one of the best, especially

1237
01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:22,560
Speaker 1: because you know we never threw it in each other's

1238
01:00:22,600 --> 01:00:24,120
Speaker 1: faces at the end of the year or anything like

1239
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:28,760
Speaker 1: that at all. Um, So I need a hot take

1240
01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:32,200
Speaker 1: from each of you guys for the fantasy season. James,

1241
01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:34,120
Speaker 1: you seem to be the hot takiest of us, most

1242
01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:39,400
Speaker 1: most consistently, so I'll let you start. That's a that's

1243
01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:48,919
Speaker 1: a euphemism for saying you're the most wrong forward. But yes,

1244
01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:51,800
Speaker 1: I have been known to go on limbs every now

1245
01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:54,480
Speaker 1: and again. But I'll just double down on this. Rhee

1246
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:58,640
Speaker 1: Moster take. Man, I really really liked what I saw

1247
01:00:59,120 --> 01:01:03,000
Speaker 1: on tape last gear. I love the Shanahan offense. Um,

1248
01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:06,920
Speaker 1: and I think again motivated by money, which is always

1249
01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:09,400
Speaker 1: the group one of the great motivators in life. I

1250
01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:12,920
Speaker 1: think Raheim Moster is going to chase that bag. Um.

1251
01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:15,760
Speaker 1: And for me, I'll just say this right now, I

1252
01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:19,480
Speaker 1: think Roheim Mostert finished this is the season as a

1253
01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:23,640
Speaker 1: top five fantasy running back. Um. That's how much I believe.

1254
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:32,800
Speaker 1: That's a that's going all right, Alex. I don't know

1255
01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:35,280
Speaker 1: if mine's quite as hot because it's not as specific,

1256
01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:39,720
Speaker 1: but the Dolphins offense in general will offer league winning

1257
01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:43,120
Speaker 1: upside and some way, shape or form this year, whether

1258
01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:45,440
Speaker 1: it be from the late round picks of Matt Breda

1259
01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:50,880
Speaker 1: or Jordan Howard or DeVante Parker, you know, Preston Williams,

1260
01:01:50,920 --> 01:01:52,960
Speaker 1: who people forget about because he was on fire to

1261
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:56,120
Speaker 1: start the season last year. Hell even Mike Asiki or twa.

1262
01:01:56,520 --> 01:01:58,320
Speaker 1: But I think this Dolphins offense is coming get a

1263
01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:01,320
Speaker 1: massive discount and it will be hard to be worse

1264
01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:03,760
Speaker 1: than they were last year. I mean, Ryan Fitzpatrick led

1265
01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:06,600
Speaker 1: this team in rushing last year, for God's sake. So

1266
01:02:07,960 --> 01:02:09,800
Speaker 1: if Jordan Howard can come in again, but your goal

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Speaker 1: line work or Matt Brina looks like you know, and

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Speaker 1: he stays healthy and isn't questionable every other week, I

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Speaker 1: think there is going to be some people that have

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01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:19,520
Speaker 1: Dolphins on their teams. You know, when you look at

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Speaker 1: the end of the year and it's like player X

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01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:24,680
Speaker 1: was on you know, wide percentage of championship rosters, there's

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Speaker 1: gonna be a Dolphin or two in that mix. Alright, alright, Harmon,

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Speaker 1: what's your your hot take? Yeah, mind, similar to Alex

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01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:35,600
Speaker 1: just you know, not as specific as James, but it's

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01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:38,720
Speaker 1: about an entire offense and I can't every time I

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01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:41,640
Speaker 1: look at the Chargers offense. I think this entire outfit

1278
01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:45,440
Speaker 1: is underrated and it wouldn't be a Stronghold reunion if

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Speaker 1: we didn't talk a little tyrod high like because you're

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01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:51,560
Speaker 1: here's here's the deal man. If he is, I think

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01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:54,560
Speaker 1: if he's the quarterback that he was in Buffalo from

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01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:57,360
Speaker 1: like an efficiency perspective, just you know, not the guy

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01:02:57,440 --> 01:02:59,800
Speaker 1: that we saw early in Cleveland. I think this whole

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01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:02,600
Speaker 1: offense is in for a pretty good year and like

1285
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:06,160
Speaker 1: everyone expects him to just you know, just just slam

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01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:08,000
Speaker 1: the hell out of the run, you know, not throw

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01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:10,040
Speaker 1: the ball. I think they can easily throw the ball

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Speaker 1: five times and I project keenan Alan share of those targets.

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01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:17,560
Speaker 1: That's more than enough for him to beat his ADP

1290
01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:20,760
Speaker 1: Mike Williams. I think is really underrated. I mean, that

1291
01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:23,680
Speaker 1: guy is dirt cheap, and I think he's got bankable

1292
01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:26,960
Speaker 1: touchdown regression. He offers you those big weeks and again

1293
01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:29,880
Speaker 1: you're you're you're group paying nothing for him and Austin

1294
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:35,320
Speaker 1: Ekeler James co danger zone Alum, it's a stud Like

1295
01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:37,680
Speaker 1: remember when we all used to say Christian McCaffrey, he

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01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:40,520
Speaker 1: can't be a full you know time running back, he

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01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:43,320
Speaker 1: can't run between the tackles. Well, talk about a wrong

1298
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:46,760
Speaker 1: ass take. And I think Austin Ekeler can be that guy.

1299
01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:48,480
Speaker 1: And I think he can catch a bunch of passes.

1300
01:03:48,560 --> 01:03:50,919
Speaker 1: If they are going to really truly lean on the run,

1301
01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:53,680
Speaker 1: great then I think Austin Ekeler is gonna be the

1302
01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:56,160
Speaker 1: guy because I think he can do everything. So I

1303
01:03:56,280 --> 01:03:58,280
Speaker 1: think he's underrated where he's going in draft. I think

1304
01:03:58,360 --> 01:04:00,960
Speaker 1: Keenan Allen is underrated where he's going in asked Tyrod Taylor.

1305
01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:04,120
Speaker 1: If he starts twelve games, he's gonna be a great

1306
01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:06,720
Speaker 1: lay round quarterback. And Mike Williams, I think it's too cheap.

1307
01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:08,000
Speaker 1: I'm with you, though. The only guy that I really

1308
01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:12,000
Speaker 1: don't like it's Hunter Henry because he's so Sorry to

1309
01:04:12,160 --> 01:04:13,959
Speaker 1: throw a little shape there, but I think this entire

1310
01:04:14,040 --> 01:04:17,720
Speaker 1: outfit is underrated, and especially Eckler. I think he could

1311
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:19,640
Speaker 1: easily be a top five back this year. I mean,

1312
01:04:19,720 --> 01:04:21,560
Speaker 1: have you seen the pictures. He's b s O H L.

1313
01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:27,600
Speaker 1: So I've worked out with the guy, I wow, man, Like,

1314
01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:30,440
Speaker 1: just like you've worked out with Austin Ekeler, you've worked

1315
01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:32,240
Speaker 1: out with Skip Bayless. I mean, anybody else you want

1316
01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:35,440
Speaker 1: to throw in here. I worked out adjacent to Skip Bayless,

1317
01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:40,160
Speaker 1: but sorry for another pot. Heckler actually took me through

1318
01:04:40,200 --> 01:04:42,200
Speaker 1: a light version of his workout. There's a video on

1319
01:04:42,480 --> 01:04:46,240
Speaker 1: my Twitter page. Uh, and it was tough. It was

1320
01:04:46,280 --> 01:04:48,680
Speaker 1: really hard. I will say though about Tyrod too, because

1321
01:04:48,680 --> 01:04:51,000
Speaker 1: like I have sort of been hesitant about the Charger

1322
01:04:51,120 --> 01:04:54,320
Speaker 1: offense this year, but we keep seeing all these comps

1323
01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:57,120
Speaker 1: right be signed by side comps production wise of Josh

1324
01:04:57,200 --> 01:05:00,120
Speaker 1: Allen and Tyrod Taylor, and they are nearly identical in

1325
01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:03,480
Speaker 1: so many different aspects, and it does make me wonder why, uh,

1326
01:05:03,560 --> 01:05:06,840
Speaker 1: folks have pretty much just written off Tyrod wild Josh Allen.

1327
01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:09,520
Speaker 1: You know, it was getting getting praised as a potential

1328
01:05:09,560 --> 01:05:11,960
Speaker 1: sleeper quarterback this year, Like it doesn't necessarily make any

1329
01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:14,200
Speaker 1: ton of maybe because you know, Tyrode is not a

1330
01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:17,160
Speaker 1: physically hulking guy with a gigantic arm like. I don't know,

1331
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:20,480
Speaker 1: but so much about their production mirrors each other that

1332
01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:22,720
Speaker 1: you would think that Tyrod would be getting more loved

1333
01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:26,080
Speaker 1: and and it just hasn't happened. Um, I don't know. Uh,

1334
01:05:26,240 --> 01:05:29,200
Speaker 1: franchise hit me with hot take, please. My hot take

1335
01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:32,080
Speaker 1: is a return to glory to one of the best

1336
01:05:32,240 --> 01:05:35,080
Speaker 1: running backs of the last you know, three or four seasons. Here.

1337
01:05:35,120 --> 01:05:37,640
Speaker 1: Todd Gurley is going to be a top five fantasy

1338
01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:41,000
Speaker 1: running back this year. Sometimes all you need is a

1339
01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:44,400
Speaker 1: little change of scenery, you know. So Todd Gurley is

1340
01:05:44,440 --> 01:05:46,720
Speaker 1: coming in here. I think he's going his RB seventeen

1341
01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:50,240
Speaker 1: off draft boards. Uh. The Falcons were fifth in overall

1342
01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:53,240
Speaker 1: offense last year. They had a terrible run offense. But

1343
01:05:53,920 --> 01:05:56,840
Speaker 1: the Rams, the Rams offense was just in disarray last year.

1344
01:05:56,880 --> 01:05:58,560
Speaker 1: He just needed to get out of there and get

1345
01:05:58,600 --> 01:06:00,240
Speaker 1: a new change of scenery. And I think if he's

1346
01:06:00,560 --> 01:06:02,360
Speaker 1: the bell cow in Atlanta, are going to see him

1347
01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:04,000
Speaker 1: bounce back in a big way this year. And I

1348
01:06:04,600 --> 01:06:06,880
Speaker 1: think he's huge value where he's being draft in no

1349
01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:09,720
Speaker 1: respect for Todd Gurley. I think change of scenery and

1350
01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:11,720
Speaker 1: an offense that will actually throw him the football on

1351
01:06:11,760 --> 01:06:15,720
Speaker 1: occasion because the Rams didn't do that last year, which

1352
01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:19,160
Speaker 1: is kind of amazing. Alright, um my hot take for

1353
01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:21,360
Speaker 1: a while, my hot take most of this offseason has

1354
01:06:21,400 --> 01:06:23,080
Speaker 1: been that John new Smith was gonna win some people

1355
01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:25,640
Speaker 1: some fantasy championships. And I still do believe that. But

1356
01:06:26,520 --> 01:06:28,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you a special hot take just for

1357
01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:31,840
Speaker 1: this show. Ronald Jones is going to be an RB

1358
01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:33,920
Speaker 1: one at the end of the season. Oh god, he

1359
01:06:34,120 --> 01:06:37,040
Speaker 1: has been. Look and I saw it recently as we

1360
01:06:37,120 --> 01:06:40,360
Speaker 1: were potting here. Pat Foreman, who does great work over

1361
01:06:40,440 --> 01:06:42,200
Speaker 1: at the Established the Run, put out a tweet that

1362
01:06:42,280 --> 01:06:45,880
Speaker 1: says the Bucks should rename their backfield the roor Shacks,

1363
01:06:46,080 --> 01:06:48,000
Speaker 1: because it really is true. Like you want to start

1364
01:06:48,040 --> 01:06:50,760
Speaker 1: a fantasy argument, just bring up the Buccaneers backfield. But

1365
01:06:51,360 --> 01:06:53,760
Speaker 1: I've recently started to come around on Road Joe, not

1366
01:06:53,880 --> 01:06:57,440
Speaker 1: just because he's a Trojan, but fight on um. But

1367
01:06:57,640 --> 01:06:59,840
Speaker 1: you know, I think with the the off season being

1368
01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:03,600
Speaker 1: it is him getting more of those opportunities him, you know,

1369
01:07:03,720 --> 01:07:06,800
Speaker 1: getting in better shape. He's he's also hashtag b s

1370
01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:09,200
Speaker 1: O h l uh. And then yesterday I think what

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01:07:09,280 --> 01:07:11,680
Speaker 1: sealed it for me was seeing a tweet that Tom

1372
01:07:11,720 --> 01:07:14,560
Speaker 1: Brady has been working with him on his his past

1373
01:07:14,600 --> 01:07:16,800
Speaker 1: catching skills and his route running and that sort of thing.

1374
01:07:17,480 --> 01:07:19,720
Speaker 1: Uh So, like, yeah, call me a sucker for like

1375
01:07:19,800 --> 01:07:22,400
Speaker 1: cryptic tweets right now, but like like let's go get

1376
01:07:22,440 --> 01:07:24,960
Speaker 1: you up. Like I'm I'm about about to buy in

1377
01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:27,760
Speaker 1: on Ronald Jones here. So my hot take is that

1378
01:07:27,840 --> 01:07:30,120
Speaker 1: by the end of the year he will be an

1379
01:07:30,280 --> 01:07:32,440
Speaker 1: RB one. So if your ten team league, he's a

1380
01:07:32,480 --> 01:07:34,840
Speaker 1: top ten guy, twelve team league, he's the top twelve guy.

1381
01:07:34,920 --> 01:07:37,720
Speaker 1: Whatever you think. Uh, we're gonna be talking about Ronald

1382
01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:39,320
Speaker 1: Jones in that light by the end of the year.

1383
01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:43,080
Speaker 1: There cryptic tweets and coach feet that's all we got.

1384
01:07:43,240 --> 01:07:49,200
Speaker 1: This all we got limited Uh no preseason games like

1385
01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:52,480
Speaker 1: Tom Brady saying, Ronald Jones, you know calves are looking

1386
01:07:52,520 --> 01:07:57,160
Speaker 1: hot these days. All we got. That's all we got.

1387
01:07:57,480 --> 01:08:01,200
Speaker 1: So all right, I wouldn't get us all back together

1388
01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:05,040
Speaker 1: to do a podcast one more time without and and

1389
01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:08,840
Speaker 1: doing this James, hopefully with your blessing. Uh around with

1390
01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:11,160
Speaker 1: Dailey DAPs like we just have to. It was, it

1391
01:08:11,240 --> 01:08:13,720
Speaker 1: was a signature. It was a hallmark of what we

1392
01:08:13,840 --> 01:08:16,720
Speaker 1: did those years together. Uh So, James Cole, because this

1393
01:08:16,840 --> 01:08:19,040
Speaker 1: was your brain child, that this was originally your baby,

1394
01:08:19,080 --> 01:08:21,120
Speaker 1: I would like you to please start this round of

1395
01:08:21,200 --> 01:08:25,720
Speaker 1: Dailey DAPs if you would, it would be my pleasure. Um.

1396
01:08:26,520 --> 01:08:28,719
Speaker 1: I will give daily DAPs to a couple of actors

1397
01:08:28,800 --> 01:08:32,080
Speaker 1: there on Umbrella Academy, Aidan Gallagher who plays five, and

1398
01:08:32,120 --> 01:08:35,640
Speaker 1: then Robert Sheehan, who plays Klaus. I just feel like

1399
01:08:35,880 --> 01:08:39,000
Speaker 1: I love the show. It's a great show, but those

1400
01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:43,120
Speaker 1: two guys carry the show, and uh, they sparkle and

1401
01:08:43,200 --> 01:08:46,000
Speaker 1: they shine. Man and Daily DAPs to both Aidan Gallagher

1402
01:08:46,080 --> 01:08:50,040
Speaker 1: and Robert Sheehan. Cool, uh g hard you'll daily that please.

1403
01:08:50,720 --> 01:08:53,400
Speaker 1: I've got to the first one goes out to Palm Springs.

1404
01:08:53,520 --> 01:08:56,720
Speaker 1: It was a Hulu original with Andy Samberg and uh,

1405
01:08:56,800 --> 01:08:58,160
Speaker 1: I got to forget her name, but she was the

1406
01:08:58,200 --> 01:09:00,720
Speaker 1: mother from How I Met Your Mother. Stuck in a

1407
01:09:00,760 --> 01:09:03,759
Speaker 1: groundhog type day situation, but every day they're at a wedding.

1408
01:09:04,320 --> 01:09:06,200
Speaker 1: I think it's a charming little inversion on it. You

1409
01:09:06,240 --> 01:09:09,120
Speaker 1: get some great j K. Simmons. Both the leads are

1410
01:09:09,200 --> 01:09:12,360
Speaker 1: terrific and also like when we're living these quarantine lives

1411
01:09:12,400 --> 01:09:14,519
Speaker 1: where it's also kind of groundhog day esk. You know,

1412
01:09:14,840 --> 01:09:17,200
Speaker 1: yapathize with it when Andy Sandberg's cracking his first beer

1413
01:09:17,200 --> 01:09:21,519
Speaker 1: at ten am, Like, hey, that's the first one. I

1414
01:09:21,560 --> 01:09:23,080
Speaker 1: would say, check it out. And then the second one

1415
01:09:23,240 --> 01:09:26,680
Speaker 1: is uh my new like favorite summer snack thing that

1416
01:09:26,720 --> 01:09:29,400
Speaker 1: I've done is putting grapes in the freezer. Many of

1417
01:09:29,439 --> 01:09:35,000
Speaker 1: you guys ever done it? Yeah? Last the last forever

1418
01:09:35,280 --> 01:09:37,920
Speaker 1: I can see you idiots are gonna make. Franchise is

1419
01:09:37,960 --> 01:09:40,519
Speaker 1: ready to just already let it go, Let it go,

1420
01:09:40,760 --> 01:09:46,439
Speaker 1: Let it know. Man, I don't holier that they're good.

1421
01:09:46,520 --> 01:09:48,720
Speaker 1: They're good healthy like snack or dessert. You get done

1422
01:09:48,760 --> 01:09:51,040
Speaker 1: with dinner and grab handful of frozen grapes. It's perfect.

1423
01:09:51,280 --> 01:09:54,599
Speaker 1: It's all about the texture, the frozen texture on everybody.

1424
01:09:54,640 --> 01:09:59,240
Speaker 1: They're They're delicious. Um harmon. I know you're still working

1425
01:09:59,280 --> 01:10:01,120
Speaker 1: on yourself. Wait too, I wouldn't go back to you,

1426
01:10:01,280 --> 01:10:05,880
Speaker 1: So franchise, what is your daily death? Yeah, I'm gonna

1427
01:10:05,920 --> 01:10:08,960
Speaker 1: stick to my routine and go with some music recommendation.

1428
01:10:09,439 --> 01:10:12,559
Speaker 1: My Morning Jacket just just put out an album, uh,

1429
01:10:12,720 --> 01:10:17,360
Speaker 1: The Waterfall Park two. It is indeed my most most

1430
01:10:17,439 --> 01:10:20,920
Speaker 1: favorite album of the year so far. Throw that that

1431
01:10:21,080 --> 01:10:23,640
Speaker 1: record on Clean Your House, Clean Your Apartment. It's got

1432
01:10:23,680 --> 01:10:26,960
Speaker 1: a little bit of like heavy rock, progressive rocks. Some folks,

1433
01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:29,920
Speaker 1: I'm Americana. Jim James is a genius. I love my

1434
01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:32,160
Speaker 1: Morning Jackets to check out that album. Yeah, I know,

1435
01:10:32,240 --> 01:10:35,120
Speaker 1: franchise you and I like we will swap Spotify links

1436
01:10:35,160 --> 01:10:38,479
Speaker 1: on albums occasionally. I feel there's been some good ones

1437
01:10:38,520 --> 01:10:40,599
Speaker 1: that came out this year. Uh that the new Tament

1438
01:10:40,640 --> 01:10:44,160
Speaker 1: Paula album came out. Uh, the new Crying Ban album

1439
01:10:44,280 --> 01:10:47,479
Speaker 1: just came out, which is fantastic. Chicago Batman, who I Love,

1440
01:10:47,560 --> 01:10:49,360
Speaker 1: just put out a great album. Not that long ago.

1441
01:10:50,320 --> 01:10:53,040
Speaker 1: It's been a good. If there has been a bright side,

1442
01:10:53,080 --> 01:10:54,920
Speaker 1: it has been that. You know, you've gotten some good music.

1443
01:10:55,200 --> 01:10:56,880
Speaker 1: I haven't heard the Taylor Swift album, but I hear

1444
01:10:56,920 --> 01:11:05,120
Speaker 1: that's pretty good too. Fine, that's fine. Swifties. Direct all

1445
01:11:05,240 --> 01:11:11,040
Speaker 1: hate mail towards at Matt friendship harmon. What is your

1446
01:11:11,120 --> 01:11:15,600
Speaker 1: your daily dad? Please? Well, I think mine is you

1447
01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:18,720
Speaker 1: know something about myself? No, I'm just kidding. But so

1448
01:11:19,160 --> 01:11:21,559
Speaker 1: my fiance and night Now took we took a cross

1449
01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:24,080
Speaker 1: country road trip to go back and see some family

1450
01:11:24,160 --> 01:11:26,879
Speaker 1: and all that. And I gotta say the podcast I'm

1451
01:11:26,920 --> 01:11:28,680
Speaker 1: a little late to this party, but the podcast that

1452
01:11:28,760 --> 01:11:31,400
Speaker 1: got us through this trip was my dad wrote a porno.

1453
01:11:31,479 --> 01:11:33,559
Speaker 1: Sorry if this is a sorry if there's a family

1454
01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:36,400
Speaker 1: friendly show, but we're going to talk about it, I

1455
01:11:36,479 --> 01:11:39,360
Speaker 1: mean you will. You will die laughing. There were several

1456
01:11:39,439 --> 01:11:41,360
Speaker 1: times I thought I was gonna, you know, run off

1457
01:11:41,439 --> 01:11:43,839
Speaker 1: the road because I was laughing so hard at this podcast.

1458
01:11:43,880 --> 01:11:47,560
Speaker 1: And it's not necessarily the quote intimacy that's always the

1459
01:11:47,640 --> 01:11:50,920
Speaker 1: most funny, or the fact that the one of the

1460
01:11:50,960 --> 01:11:55,439
Speaker 1: hosts dad wrote this erotic novel. It's just how terrible

1461
01:11:56,360 --> 01:12:00,160
Speaker 1: the writing is written, it is, how poorly written, it is,

1462
01:12:00,240 --> 01:12:02,560
Speaker 1: how poorly conceived some of these things are. And just

1463
01:12:02,760 --> 01:12:06,599
Speaker 1: like the way I mean it's it's it is literally perfect. Um,

1464
01:12:06,880 --> 01:12:08,880
Speaker 1: if you're just sitting around your house right now with

1465
01:12:09,000 --> 01:12:11,639
Speaker 1: nothing to do, which everybody is, which we all instead

1466
01:12:11,680 --> 01:12:13,960
Speaker 1: of instead of cleaning up to Jim James or whatever

1467
01:12:14,000 --> 01:12:16,360
Speaker 1: who who I love, throw on that. Throw that on

1468
01:12:16,439 --> 01:12:19,880
Speaker 1: the speakers, and you will, you will legitimately pe yourself.

1469
01:12:19,960 --> 01:12:22,799
Speaker 1: It is that fun that it is. It is absolutely hilarious.

1470
01:12:22,840 --> 01:12:24,600
Speaker 1: I a hundred percent agree. And actually I have not

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01:12:24,680 --> 01:12:26,560
Speaker 1: watched it, but they did a a kind of a

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Speaker 1: live show that's on HBO, so I haven't watched that.

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Speaker 1: You can find that somewhere. Um, I've got a top

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Speaker 1: one for for those of you in the Los Angeles areas.

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Speaker 1: More applies, but the Common Space Brewery. I know that

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Speaker 1: that we live in an age of a lot of

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Speaker 1: you know, micro breweries and that sort of thing, but

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Speaker 1: that they do a lot of really good stuff. I've

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Speaker 1: been kind of sampling some of their beers. Plus they deliver,

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01:12:46,560 --> 01:12:50,519
Speaker 1: which is phenomenal, like crucial, right, and it's crucial that

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Speaker 1: they will deliver, especially if you're in the l A

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Speaker 1: area within twenty four hours. That is that that's a

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Speaker 1: pretty big plus my daily DAP though for those of

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Speaker 1: you who aren't in l A and can't get this beer. Uh.

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Speaker 1: The show zero zero zero on Amazon Prime, which I

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01:13:04,800 --> 01:13:06,960
Speaker 1: know there have been a lot of shows about the

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Speaker 1: drug trade and what have you. This what kind of

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01:13:09,400 --> 01:13:11,400
Speaker 1: takes a different look at it in terms of like

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Speaker 1: kind of following a shipment and both from from the

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01:13:14,360 --> 01:13:16,920
Speaker 1: the seller to the distributor and just kind of a

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01:13:17,040 --> 01:13:19,800
Speaker 1: sort of a different look. It's very intense, but it's

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01:13:19,840 --> 01:13:21,760
Speaker 1: only eight episodes, so it's fairly short. You can blow

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01:13:21,840 --> 01:13:24,360
Speaker 1: through it in an evening. Uh. And so that, oh,

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01:13:24,640 --> 01:13:26,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be shelfish because I'm hosting the show to

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01:13:26,520 --> 01:13:30,080
Speaker 1: One Quick More One More Quick One homecoming on on

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01:13:30,200 --> 01:13:32,559
Speaker 1: Amazon Prime too. It's just kind of a weird, trippy

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01:13:33,040 --> 01:13:35,760
Speaker 1: sci fi sort of thing. It's two seasons. I think

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01:13:35,800 --> 01:13:37,720
Speaker 1: each seasons like seven or eight episodes are all half

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01:13:37,760 --> 01:13:41,639
Speaker 1: an hour. You can probably watch both seasons in an afternoon. Um.

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Speaker 1: It was based originally on a podcast, it has been

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01:13:44,560 --> 01:13:47,519
Speaker 1: turned to a TV show. It's pretty fantastic, so I

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01:13:47,640 --> 01:13:51,800
Speaker 1: recommend that. So, UM, guys, this was fun. I really

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01:13:51,840 --> 01:13:55,519
Speaker 1: had funder. Um. I know for those of you out

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01:13:55,520 --> 01:13:57,920
Speaker 1: there listening, I will I'll give you some background on this.

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01:13:58,280 --> 01:14:00,559
Speaker 1: This is a things an idea that tweet me five

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01:14:00,600 --> 01:14:02,519
Speaker 1: of us. We have been kicking around for a while

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01:14:02,760 --> 01:14:06,000
Speaker 1: and the timing just never quite worked out. Uh. So

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01:14:06,240 --> 01:14:09,120
Speaker 1: then I realized that I had. I realized I had

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01:14:09,320 --> 01:14:13,160
Speaker 1: a hole in the schedule. Got a window. I had

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01:14:13,200 --> 01:14:15,960
Speaker 1: a window. And so once I realized I had that window,

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01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:18,800
Speaker 1: I immediately fired off a saved the date text to

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01:14:18,880 --> 01:14:22,639
Speaker 1: all these guys, and they immediately jumped in and said

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01:14:22,680 --> 01:14:24,280
Speaker 1: they were bound to do it. Look, I'll say this,

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01:14:24,880 --> 01:14:26,519
Speaker 1: I know for for me, and I know I'm sure

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01:14:26,560 --> 01:14:30,519
Speaker 1: for you guys to Uh. We've been overwhelmed by the

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01:14:30,720 --> 01:14:33,880
Speaker 1: amount of support and and love that we get from

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01:14:33,880 --> 01:14:36,400
Speaker 1: you guys on Twitter. The number of people who hit

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01:14:36,479 --> 01:14:39,360
Speaker 1: us up and talk about how they missed this podcast

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01:14:39,360 --> 01:14:41,560
Speaker 1: and they enjoyed all of us together. Uh. In what

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01:14:41,720 --> 01:14:44,160
Speaker 1: has been you know, I think a frustrating time for

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01:14:44,200 --> 01:14:46,000
Speaker 1: a lot of us. You know, I don't't speak for

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01:14:46,040 --> 01:14:47,160
Speaker 1: all of you, but I know for me, it has

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01:14:47,160 --> 01:14:49,759
Speaker 1: been kind of heartwarming to see the outpouring of support.

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01:14:49,840 --> 01:14:52,439
Speaker 1: So uh yeah, we thought that was kind of fun

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01:14:52,520 --> 01:14:54,240
Speaker 1: to get back and do this just for us, but

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01:14:54,360 --> 01:14:56,920
Speaker 1: for you guys too as well. Uh. I don't know

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Speaker 1: anybody anybody agree and disagree anything that add on that,

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01:15:00,880 --> 01:15:06,400
Speaker 1: you know, I just did, right, I mean, I was

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01:15:06,439 --> 01:15:08,360
Speaker 1: gonna say it does say a lot you know that

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01:15:08,680 --> 01:15:11,479
Speaker 1: it's been two years since we've done a podcast together,

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01:15:11,720 --> 01:15:15,560
Speaker 1: and and the comments on you know, Twitter, Facebook and

1532
01:15:15,640 --> 01:15:18,439
Speaker 1: stuff and Instagram, they still do trickle in. And I

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01:15:18,520 --> 01:15:21,040
Speaker 1: think that says a lot um to what we had

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01:15:21,120 --> 01:15:24,679
Speaker 1: going on. And um, we had one of the best

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01:15:24,840 --> 01:15:29,000
Speaker 1: shows out there. Um and I wish they gave us

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01:15:29,040 --> 01:15:31,439
Speaker 1: the opportunity to kind of let it marinate a little

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01:15:31,479 --> 01:15:33,800
Speaker 1: bit more. But um, it certainly warms the heart, I

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01:15:33,880 --> 01:15:36,920
Speaker 1: think to um to still get those messages again years

1539
01:15:36,960 --> 01:15:39,360
Speaker 1: after the fact, which is cool. Yeah, I mean everybody

1540
01:15:39,400 --> 01:15:42,679
Speaker 1: else has gone everybody's gone on to do awesome stuff.

1541
01:15:42,760 --> 01:15:44,960
Speaker 1: Like Marcus talked about it at the top. You we

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01:15:45,040 --> 01:15:47,840
Speaker 1: all talked about what's going on, and I think, you know,

1543
01:15:47,960 --> 01:15:49,920
Speaker 1: in in like a in a weird way, it was

1544
01:15:50,120 --> 01:15:52,640
Speaker 1: it was great that we split up so that we

1545
01:15:52,720 --> 01:15:55,320
Speaker 1: could all, you know, go and do our own separate

1546
01:15:55,360 --> 01:15:57,320
Speaker 1: things and and you know, continue to rise up the

1547
01:15:57,400 --> 01:15:59,120
Speaker 1: ranks of whatever the hell we're trying to do. But

1548
01:15:59,680 --> 01:16:02,400
Speaker 1: the reality is, I think we'll never I felt this

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01:16:02,479 --> 01:16:04,080
Speaker 1: way when it was going on, and I think the

1550
01:16:05,000 --> 01:16:07,240
Speaker 1: the responses that we continue to get about is that

1551
01:16:07,280 --> 01:16:10,439
Speaker 1: we will never have something as cool as this again.

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01:16:10,479 --> 01:16:12,320
Speaker 1: You know, I work with some cool people, I do

1553
01:16:12,479 --> 01:16:17,360
Speaker 1: some fun shows, whatever. Nothing is ever quite like the Stronghold.

1554
01:16:17,479 --> 01:16:20,120
Speaker 1: And I think that is, you know, people continuing to

1555
01:16:20,200 --> 01:16:22,479
Speaker 1: talk about it is special to me, and I think

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01:16:22,560 --> 01:16:26,800
Speaker 1: it reflects the specialness that we had together. Yeah, I

1557
01:16:26,840 --> 01:16:28,200
Speaker 1: was gonna say this is the only saved the day

1558
01:16:28,240 --> 01:16:34,120
Speaker 1: that got this year, that stuck so right in the

1559
01:16:34,160 --> 01:16:36,200
Speaker 1: face though if it tried to stop me from hanging

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01:16:36,240 --> 01:16:37,960
Speaker 1: out with you guys in up Hoot again. So, you know,

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01:16:37,960 --> 01:16:40,120
Speaker 1: I appreciate all the people messaging us. But it's fun

1562
01:16:40,160 --> 01:16:41,599
Speaker 1: to just get back on this after like two years

1563
01:16:41,640 --> 01:16:43,599
Speaker 1: and feel like we haven't missed a beat and we're

1564
01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:47,040
Speaker 1: sitting that's that cold studio at the NFL Network. It's

1565
01:16:47,080 --> 01:16:53,040
Speaker 1: that studio man, any studio. Yeah, it's been so much fun. Hey,

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01:16:53,120 --> 01:16:54,280
Speaker 1: and well you know, I don't know. We'll see you

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01:16:54,320 --> 01:16:55,920
Speaker 1: in the We'll see you guys in the happy Hour

1568
01:16:56,040 --> 01:16:58,240
Speaker 1: zooms if we ever get another one going again. At

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01:16:58,320 --> 01:17:01,840
Speaker 1: some point we'll be back in the slack chat except

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01:17:01,920 --> 01:17:04,160
Speaker 1: James because he's too good for us. Well, we'll be

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01:17:04,280 --> 01:17:06,559
Speaker 1: We'll be back in the slack chat in like five minutes,

1572
01:17:06,960 --> 01:17:12,160
Speaker 1: you know, doing what we do best. Absolutely. Well, Hey,

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01:17:12,360 --> 01:17:14,519
Speaker 1: we appreciate I appreciate you guys coming and sitting in

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01:17:14,640 --> 01:17:16,000
Speaker 1: with me. I've had a lot of fun. At some point,

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01:17:16,040 --> 01:17:17,840
Speaker 1: maybe we can find another window in the future to

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01:17:17,880 --> 01:17:20,559
Speaker 1: do this again, because it was just it was enjoyable.

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01:17:21,080 --> 01:17:23,240
Speaker 1: And for those of you out there, that is it.

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01:17:23,560 --> 01:17:26,160
Speaker 1: We are done. I appreciate you hanging out with us.

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01:17:26,280 --> 01:17:28,840
Speaker 1: As always, you know the drill. Tell two friends to

1580
01:17:28,880 --> 01:17:32,360
Speaker 1: tell two friends rate review and remember the only reason

1581
01:17:32,479 --> 01:17:34,919
Speaker 1: some people get lost and thoughts because it's unfamiliar territory.

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01:17:35,000 --> 01:17:38,040
Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to be NFL Fantasy Football Podcast presented

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01:17:38,040 --> 01:17:40,400
Speaker 1: by Caesar's Rewards. Take care of yourself, wear a mask,

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01:17:40,720 --> 01:18:08,320
Speaker 1: and we'll see you on Thursday. Cocotte at all the

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Speaker 1: come on