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Speaker 1: It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton.

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Speaker 1: Wednesday is Wednesday, November fourth, twenty twenty, Season sixteen, episode

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Speaker 1: number fifty eight. Welcome to the latest edition of The Break.

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Speaker 1: We are live from the s WBC Mortgage studios at

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Speaker 1: the Star got Nick in here with me David Amber

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Speaker 1: at their remote locations. We appreciate you guys taking a

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Speaker 1: little time from your election coverage to join us talk

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Speaker 1: a little Cowboys football. Hopefully we can make this entertaining

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Speaker 1: for you and give you a good forty five minutes

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Speaker 1: of a respite from the anxiety that is the election.

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Speaker 1: So we got a lot of things we want to

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Speaker 1: get into today. We'll have Bucky Brooks joining us. In

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Speaker 1: the second segment. We're gonna start breaking down the Pittsburgh

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Speaker 1: Steeler offense versus the Cowboys defense. That'll be an interesting conversation.

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Speaker 1: But before we get to that. Yesterday we find out

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Speaker 1: about Andy Dalton, who now has been placed on the

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Speaker 1: reserved COVID nineteen list. Nick talk to me about how

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Speaker 1: long he's presumably out and what does this mean for

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Speaker 1: the team. At this point, it sounds like he could

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Speaker 1: be out two weeks. I don't know unless McCarthy. I

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Speaker 1: didn't get a chance to hear McCarthy. Did he say

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Speaker 1: something different? Did he say that? Because if he didn't

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Speaker 1: I mean, let's just be honest about it. The Cowboys

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Speaker 1: are not mentioning it. They're not really announcing, and they

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Speaker 1: and what it could have been. Is it? You know?

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Speaker 1: Obviously they don't have to say if whether he tested

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Speaker 1: different than I mean. But but the protocol he should

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Speaker 1: But again, with the bye week coming up, I'm really

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Speaker 1: but I we really don't. We kind of left in

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Speaker 1: Is is he's obviously not gonna play this week, that

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure if there's a way he could get it.

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Speaker 1: which comes out a great time for the Cowboys. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: doesn't it always? Well, why do you say that, Nick,

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Speaker 1: which doesn't matter at this point. You know, I'm saying

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Speaker 1: I quickly ask Nick? I know you'd take the test.

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Speaker 1: How quickly do they give you, guys the results? I

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Speaker 1: You usually, and I would say that my email comes

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Speaker 1: I what I would do is wildcat this bad boy

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Speaker 1: just think Cooper Rush is probably gonna know what Kelly

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Speaker 1: these crossing routes. So having a clear understanding of what

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Speaker 1: coverage you're in, having a clear field for a we're

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Speaker 1: gonna zone off all these crossing routes and we're gonna

429
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Speaker 1: rally and tackle. They have to make sure they have

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Speaker 1: a clear plan and then they just have to tackle

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Speaker 1: in space. That would be the biggest challenge for the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys this week. Oh is that I thought Nick was

433
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Speaker 1: in front of me. I'm sorry, Bucky, we don't We

434
00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,640
Speaker 1: only see. You know, we only see the Steelers every

435
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Speaker 1: like four years, so I feel like, you know, you

436
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Speaker 1: kind of go off reputation, like you're talking about you know,

437
00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:09,679
Speaker 1: this isn't the Killer Bees offense that it was a

438
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Speaker 1: few years ago. But Pittsburgh their reputation. I mean, they

439
00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:18,320
Speaker 1: have the offensive line that most people associate with the Cowboys,

440
00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:22,040
Speaker 1: at least it seems that way. I'm like, what is

441
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Speaker 1: the status of their offensive line, because going into this matchup,

442
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Speaker 1: I'm worried that they're just going to be able to

443
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Speaker 1: road grade the Cowboys out of the way. Is that fair? No,

444
00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:35,199
Speaker 1: they're not the same offensive line. They can't necessarily mash

445
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Speaker 1: like you would like to think, like, this isn't the

446
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Speaker 1: same kind of offensive line that they head with Levan

447
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Speaker 1: Bill where they were able to run the ball and

448
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Speaker 1: Levan Bill would go crazy. James Corner is fine, Like

449
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Speaker 1: he's okay running back. He has for undred in ninety

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Speaker 1: eight yards. They've been able to kind of get it

451
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Speaker 1: when they're up and kind of running out the clock.

452
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Speaker 1: But it's a Hodge Poles. They're playing young guys on

453
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Speaker 1: the inside. David Decastroy set out some games and so

454
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Speaker 1: they're fine. Their big deal has been an under This

455
00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,880
Speaker 1: will paying you being an LSU fan. Matt Canada has

456
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Speaker 1: come in as theirs, as their as their quarterback coach.

457
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Speaker 1: But what he's done, he has given them the bills

458
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Speaker 1: and whistles that he's always done at the college level.

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Speaker 1: So you will see a lot of fly sweep action,

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Speaker 1: a lot of shifts, a lot of motions to try

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Speaker 1: and divert your eyes, and then they had run a

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Speaker 1: compliment of plays off of that. You will see Chase

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Speaker 1: Claypool get a handful of jet sweeps and all those

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Speaker 1: guys are doing it. So they stretch you horizontally with

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Speaker 1: all the action and then they come downhill behind it.

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Speaker 1: It would be very similar to the way that La

467
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Speaker 1: Rams try to attack the opening game, where they rant

468
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Speaker 1: all that horizontal motion and they try to run the

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Speaker 1: ball behind it. So you just have to be disciplined.

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Speaker 1: You have to understand where your gaps are and be sound,

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Speaker 1: and then you just have to run and chase. You

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Speaker 1: got to make sure that you rally to the ball

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Speaker 1: and you gain tackle this week. So the Dallas defense

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Speaker 1: has to be disciplined if they're going to be successful.

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Speaker 1: That's terrifying. Look, but you have to build on what

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Speaker 1: happened last week. I think building upon what happened last week,

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Speaker 1: you have to ignore all the other stuff. They took

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Speaker 1: a step in a positive direction because I felt like

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Speaker 1: they played harder. I felt like they ran to the ball,

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Speaker 1: and maybe by clearing out some of the veterans in

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Speaker 1: the locker room, I think they got their attention. Because

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Speaker 1: last week was the first time that we saw a

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Speaker 1: little bit of the Dallas defense that we thought that

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Speaker 1: we would see, forcing turnovers in those things. I think

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Speaker 1: they have to build upon that. But this has to

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Speaker 1: be their most physical effort, and we'll see if they're

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Speaker 1: up to the challenge. You mentioned a little earlier that

488
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Speaker 1: Ben's getting the ball out really quickly. I saw also

489
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Speaker 1: that he's only been hit twelve times this season. So

490
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Speaker 1: if you can't hit him, how do you disrupt the

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Speaker 1: guy like Ben Roethlisparker. You have to cover. He's not

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Speaker 1: the athlete that he was before. The thing they used

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Speaker 1: to worry about Ben Roethlisberger was the extended plays he

494
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Speaker 1: would run around. You had Ab there. Ab is great

495
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Speaker 1: at Sandlott Football. He would uncovered they were through a

496
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Speaker 1: fifty yard touchdown. Ben Roethlisberger doesn't like to run around

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Speaker 1: like that. He also doesn't have what I would call

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Speaker 1: the arm strength to push it down the field like

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Speaker 1: he used to. And so the thing that you can

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Speaker 1: do is sometimes you have to change the number of

501
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:06,119
Speaker 1: guys that you have dropping Sometimes you drop seven, sometimes

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Speaker 1: you drop eight. Force them to fit it in the windows.

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Speaker 1: And most importantly, you can't let those physical athletes that

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Speaker 1: they have on the outside get loose in space. You

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Speaker 1: gotta knock those guys down. Because as much as I

506
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Speaker 1: talked about their wide receivers, their wide receivers are really terrific,

507
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,880
Speaker 1: but they're not like the Cowboys wide receivers. They're kind

508
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Speaker 1: of like Juju Smith. Schuster is not a number one,

509
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:30,240
Speaker 1: he's a number two. Deontay Thompson, James Washington, Chase Claypool,

510
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:32,880
Speaker 1: like they're fine. Chase Claypool has kind of been the revelation.

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Speaker 1: They're the only team with three wide receivers with over

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Speaker 1: twenty receptions, and so you have to take care of them.

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Speaker 1: But you have a couple of these guys averaging nine

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Speaker 1: yards of catch, so they're not really hurting you. It's

515
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:47,400
Speaker 1: really just like water torture, just a little drop here,

516
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:50,080
Speaker 1: dropped there, dropped there, moving the chains. They're not getting

517
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Speaker 1: these big plays, They're just moving the chains, so you

518
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Speaker 1: have to make sure you tackle them and keep them

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Speaker 1: under control. I'll go, I'll go, I'll I don't know. Well,

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Speaker 1: I skipped my turn because basically I was about to

521
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Speaker 1: ask if the Cowboys defense played better or was it

522
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:10,679
Speaker 1: just Carson Wentz and you kind of made it. You

523
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,200
Speaker 1: answered that already said that the defense did play better.

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Speaker 1: But I'll ask you this. Last week, I said, hey,

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Speaker 1: Cheeto is supposed to come back because I thought he was.

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Speaker 1: What do you do with Diggs? And you said, well,

527
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Speaker 1: you know, you think Diggs need to break a little bit,

528
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 1: and he gave up a couple of touchdowns, but he

529
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Speaker 1: also had two picks. If Cheeto does come back this

530
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Speaker 1: week from the hamstring from hell, do you think that

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Speaker 1: he will still play? Do you think Diggs? Would you

532
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Speaker 1: bench him now? Well? I think then, and he has

533
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Speaker 1: a couple of takeaways and he picked off fasts. I

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Speaker 1: think that more fine to keep him out there. I

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Speaker 1: think Cheeto Cheeto probably goes into the nickel. I think

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Speaker 1: the thing with Diggs is Diggs's talent is impressive. It

537
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Speaker 1: stands out on tape when you watch him right like

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Speaker 1: he's long, he makes plays. He has good ball skills,

539
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Speaker 1: being a former wide receiver. In those things, it's the

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Speaker 1: lapses where he falls asleep at the wheel and he's

541
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Speaker 1: trying to figure it out. We didn't see those as

542
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 1: much against Philadelphia. The plays that he gave up, he

543
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:05,680
Speaker 1: was just beat on the play. He's in position that

544
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 1: got me to play. The throw was perfect and it happens.

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Speaker 1: I think the big thing is continuing to simplify the

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Speaker 1: game for him so he knows exactly what he's able

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Speaker 1: to do. He has played at a high level, so

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00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 1: I think you certainly have to keep him out there.

549
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 1: But you do need Cheeto back, You need all your

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00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 1: guys back so you can play well. I think you

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00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:26,360
Speaker 1: have to be encouraged by the effort because last week

552
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 1: was a winnable game. I would say that the offense

553
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:30,920
Speaker 1: didn't help them out in terms of winning the game,

554
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 1: but from a defensive effort it was better. Now, can

555
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,399
Speaker 1: you build upon that and really take a big stride

556
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 1: against the Pittsburgh Still this team that is much better

557
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:43,640
Speaker 1: than the Philadelphia Eagles. You really kind of talked about

558
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Speaker 1: the turnovers and how important that is and the fact

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Speaker 1: that we were able to start seeing that last weekend.

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Speaker 1: And yes, part of that is attributed to the quarterback.

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Speaker 1: But in this game, I mean, is there any chance

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Speaker 1: that the Cowboys are just able to at least create

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Speaker 1: some kind of turn over. Yeah, I think they can

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Speaker 1: create turnovers. The thing about it is last week the

565
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Speaker 1: turnovers came because the quarterback was hit. You saw three

566
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Speaker 1: or four sacks, You saw a bunch of quarterback six pressure.

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Speaker 1: Those things change the way to quarterback plays for Ben

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Speaker 1: Roethlisberger because he gets the ball out so quick. This

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Speaker 1: should be a game where, if I ask you what

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00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,439
Speaker 1: it looked like a practice, the D line has to

571
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Speaker 1: work on getting their hands up at the line of scrimmage.

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00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 1: If anything, the turnovers would come off bad at passes, deflections,

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Speaker 1: tip balls, and overthrows. It has to be a concerted

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Speaker 1: effort to If Ben Roethlisberger is going to get it out,

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Speaker 1: the D line has to time their jump at the

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Speaker 1: line of scrimmage and see if they can deflect and

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Speaker 1: distort some of these passes by clogging the passing lanes.

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00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 1: If they do that, some of the interceptions in turnover

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Speaker 1: certainly can happen. I know when we already we've been

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Speaker 1: talking about how this is, you know, a lot more conservative.

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Speaker 1: You know, the deep shots that Ben Roethlisberger is so

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00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 1: famous for maybe aren't happening as much this year. But

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Speaker 1: I mean he can still do that though, right because

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00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 1: I gotta assume they're gonna want to try to take

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Speaker 1: some shots seeing as how it works for everybody else.

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00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 1: He still can't do it, but he can't do it

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Speaker 1: as consistently as he used to do it. If he's

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Speaker 1: going to take a shot, I mean, your alert has

589
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 1: to be on number eleven. Like if I'm in the

590
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 1: dB room, we have to be mindful of where number

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Speaker 1: eleven is. He is the one that is going to

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Speaker 1: get the shots, and that's Chase Claypool. So let's be

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Speaker 1: aware of where he is at all times. Let's make

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Speaker 1: sure that we are playing top down coverage, meaning we're

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00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 1: making him catch things going back to the quarterback. But

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00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 1: he is the guy when it comes to the deep shot.

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00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 1: If the deep shot happens, it is when Ben Roethlisberger

598
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Speaker 1: sees you walked up in snug coverage press man to

599
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 1: man and he takes the fade right away. It is

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Speaker 1: not what it used to be, where he would wait

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Speaker 1: and wait and wait and then air it out. He

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00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 1: doesn't have that. He just had the club in his

603
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 1: bag anymore. Since he had the elbow surgery, he hasn't

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00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 1: shown that so crowd. You can crowd them, but you

605
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 1: just better make sure that you understand who the deep

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Speaker 1: targets are and make sure that you have a plan

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Speaker 1: for taking those. As a way, as a follow up

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Speaker 1: to that, you mentioned Chase Claypool. He's been really good

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Speaker 1: for them this season. Does Dallas have the defensive backs

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Speaker 1: the size of defensive backs to match up with Claypool size?

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Speaker 1: Because he looks like a really big receiver. He looks

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Speaker 1: like a physical receiver, but he looks like a physical

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Speaker 1: receiver that can run. Do they have the size to

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Speaker 1: be able to match up with him? Well, I mean

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Speaker 1: I think they can match up with him. I think

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Speaker 1: the thing that you have to do with a big

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Speaker 1: guy like that in a way, we've seen Dallas play

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00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 1: a little more conservative, so they've been off coverage more,

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Speaker 1: meaning they they'll give you all the short stuff with Claypool.

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Speaker 1: The thing that you want to do a big guy

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Speaker 1: like that in a way, you kind of want to

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Speaker 1: jam him and make him restart, or if you can

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Speaker 1: get a sense of what routes he likes to run,

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00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 1: you can squat on some of those things to to

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00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 1: really make it tough. I think Diggs would be if

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Speaker 1: they get into I think where they want to match up.

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Speaker 1: I think this is your best option in terms of

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Speaker 1: matching up with him, just because of the length. I

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Speaker 1: just don't know if you feel the need to travel

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Speaker 1: with him at this point. He has made some plays.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if he's made enough play needs to

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Speaker 1: get the special attention yet. Okay, we appreciate that, Bucky,

633
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 1: really good stuff. We'll see you tomorrow. We'll talk a

634
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 1: little bit more about this Pittsburgh defense versus the Cowboys offense.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna take our final break. We'll come back. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna ask these gays of questions about the Cowboys defense particularly,

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Speaker 1: Life from the s WBC Mortgage Studios at the Star

676
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Speaker 1: War talking Cowboys defense versus Philadelphia Offense. Pittsburgh. I wish

677
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Yeah, yeah, sorry, Pittsburgh, Sorry State. I want

678
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Speaker 1: to send some that I was like, did they did

679
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 1: they trade WENTZ to Pittsburgh? No? Would have been nice?

680
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 1: All right? Um? I did have some questions for you guys,

681
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 1: particular to the Cowboys defense, and I want to start

682
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 1: with you know, obviously we talked about how well they

683
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 1: played last week. I thought they played really well. I

684
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 1: think there's kind of mixed reviews on that. Some think

685
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 1: that it maybe was just Philadelphia decided they didn't want

686
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 1: to run the ball anymore for whatever strange reason. But

687
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,319
Speaker 1: all that being said, how much faith do you have

688
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 1: that the defense can continue to show improvement at least

689
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 1: because I do think we all agree that they were

690
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 1: better against a much better opponent. Let's start first with you,

691
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,399
Speaker 1: Nick Well. I think that I don't know if Roethlisberger

692
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 1: or any other quarterbacks is gonna make some of those

693
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,879
Speaker 1: throws that were picked off by Diggs. I think most

694
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the league, including Roethlisberger, probably fumble if they

695
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 1: get hit by Layton like that, and Donovan Wilson like that.

696
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:40,319
Speaker 1: They made some nice plays on the ball, so they

697
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 1: created some of those turnovers and that's something we really

698
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 1: haven't seen a lot of. Again, I'm really impressed with

699
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:50,720
Speaker 1: Donovan Wilson. I mean, I like what he's what he's shown,

700
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 1: and they're giving him a chance. And the fans that

701
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 1: were you know, yelling saying, let's see this guy. They

702
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,880
Speaker 1: were right, you know, I mean, he's he's going to

703
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:00,839
Speaker 1: continue to play better. I got to talk to him

704
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 1: last week and he was just like he's like, the

705
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 1: game's moving slower for me now and I'm moving faster.

706
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 1: I thought that awesome. Yeah, I mean, and that's that's

707
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 1: what it's about, you know, when a young player like that,

708
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 1: So I you know, I think it's encouraging. Yes, yes,

709
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 1: when they probably could have run the ball more. They

710
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 1: should have because they're getting blown off the ball there.

711
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 1: But I think I think they can shore that up,

712
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 1: which I don't know if they can. Maybe Ellie and

713
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 1: Ellie and Coo. I don't know how to say his

714
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 1: last name. The name is Ellie. It's not Eli, it's Ellie. Hey,

715
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 1: oh wow, I know that. Yeah, I got that part,

716
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:38,719
Speaker 1: you guys and Coo Yeah yeah, I mean again, I

717
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 1: usually big guys don't get moved around that like that.

718
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,279
Speaker 1: So okay, hopefully you know what I'm saying, Like, that's

719
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 1: the thing about Poe is that was what was surprising.

720
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 1: Is a big guy like that, you don't expect him

721
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 1: to get moved around, and hopefully this guy can can

722
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:55,239
Speaker 1: prove that right, Yeah, all right, but what do you think, Well,

723
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 1: Twi's we're able to create some really nice plays last weekend.

724
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 1: But one of the things that stood out to me

725
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,759
Speaker 1: the most was the kind of energy. I mean, you

726
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 1: could tell there was like a whole different vibe on

727
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 1: that field and they were just more energized and in

728
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 1: the way that they were playing. I do think that

729
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 1: that's going to be able to carry over to this weekend,

730
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 1: and in the fact that you're gonna see that kind

731
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:20,240
Speaker 1: of motivation, that kind of effort, that kind of energy

732
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 1: once again. But I don't think that they'll be able

733
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 1: to be as successful as far as creating plays and

734
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 1: turnovers and keep moments like that because of the kind

735
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 1: of offense that they're playing this week and very very

736
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 1: different than the Philadelphia Eagles. So I don't think they're

737
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 1: gonna be as successful, but I think that at least

738
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 1: the energy and the will is going to be there.

739
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 1: One thing to note about that, and I don't know

740
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 1: Amber and Dave, I don't know if you guys have

741
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 1: witnessed a Steeler game at at and T Stadium, but

742
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 1: it's gonna feel it's gonna feel weird for Cowboys fans

743
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:58,319
Speaker 1: because it's not often that the Cowboys have a have

744
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 1: a home game that feels maybe split, and I wonder

745
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:05,800
Speaker 1: with the reduced crowd, I wonder if that's that feels

746
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:07,720
Speaker 1: even more. I don't know. It's gonna be an interesting

747
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 1: dynamic that I think we'll all be talking about as

748
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 1: we get into the game. I don't think. I don't

749
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 1: think it's it's gonna be split at all. I really don't.

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00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be seventy thirty the other way

751
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 1: and it's no, I think it's gonna be seventy yes.

752
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 1: Because this is there's no there's no um uh season

753
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 1: ticket holders that just you know, have they're out the door.

754
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 1: This is first come, first serving. Cowboy fans are like,

755
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 1: who do we play this year? Steve. The fans have

756
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:35,799
Speaker 1: known since two thy twelve. When they go back, they

757
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 1: know it's been eight years. So when all this hit,

758
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,360
Speaker 1: they're like, I gotta get get my hands on some tickets.

759
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 1: They will be there. This is the year of the

760
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:44,839
Speaker 1: They're even more excited about it, and Cowboy fans are

761
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,880
Speaker 1: kind of like, well, whatever, Like for this year, I

762
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:50,280
Speaker 1: guarantee you it's going to be the most fans, you've

763
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:53,839
Speaker 1: ever ever seen as far as like a discrepancy, Dave,

764
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:56,320
Speaker 1: what do you think about I've never, I've never seen

765
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 1: no good good Go ahead, you can I've never I've

766
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 1: never seen I've never seen Pittsburgh play here, but I've

767
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 1: been there for Denver games and forty nine Ers games.

768
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 1: You know, the forty nine Er game in twenty fourteen.

769
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:11,919
Speaker 1: I feel like we've talked about that for a year

770
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 1: after it happened, and it was, you know, the Cowboys

771
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 1: were coming off a disappointing season and the forty nine

772
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:19,879
Speaker 1: Ers were coming off a really good season. That's kind

773
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 1: of the situation we're dealing with here. So yeah, I

774
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 1: think I think Nick is probably dead on with that. Um,

775
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 1: they're fine read as far as the defense, just just

776
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 1: prove it. Just I don't like prove it? Why Why

777
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 1: should I? Why should I have to sell anybody on

778
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 1: them keeping this up when I mean, you know, we've

779
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:39,839
Speaker 1: seen what we've seen. I think, uh what I mean?

780
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 1: And Nick said it during one of the breaks like

781
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 1: they had they had the Steelers had allowed Like I

782
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 1: don't even know what I'm trying to say. The point is, yeah,

783
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,400
Speaker 1: thank you four hundred rushing yards, and they gave up

784
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 1: two hundred against Baltimore the other day. That's like child's

785
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 1: play for the Cowboys. They gave I mean three three

786
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 1: hundred rushing yards, the Browns two hundred to Washington. They

787
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 1: played really great against Philadelphia. Ben Roethlisberger doesn't like to

788
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 1: give the ball away as much as Carson Wentz does.

789
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 1: I just I need to see it to believe it.

790
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 1: I would guess that they're probably going to struggle in

791
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 1: this game. So what do you guys think is the

792
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 1: most critical thing that this Cowboys defense needs to do

793
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 1: to be successful against the Pittsburgh offense ambules star Whew Well,

794
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 1: I would say pressure the quarterback. But that's just gonna

795
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 1: be so tough. I mean, you heard this counting report

796
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:34,959
Speaker 1: that Bucky gave on their offensive line and how good

797
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,800
Speaker 1: they are at protecting their quarterbacks. So it's gonna be really,

798
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 1: really tough. But I mean that's where it all starts.

799
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 1: Just trying to create some pressure that's gonna be I

800
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 1: think very critical, including in the running game. I mean

801
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 1: I wish there could be a specific area that I

802
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 1: could point out and say, Okay, you know what, the

803
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 1: Cowboys can dominate this part right here, and then they

804
00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 1: gotta win in this game. But I think that the

805
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 1: Steeler are able to do so many other things that

806
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 1: if they take something out, they're gonna be able to

807
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,839
Speaker 1: take advantage of the other side of something else, whether

808
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 1: it's the running game or the passing game. So it's

809
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,400
Speaker 1: it's just gonna be very difficult. But if the Cowboys

810
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 1: can manage creating some pressure, I think that's gonna be

811
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:21,239
Speaker 1: really helpful for them. That's a great point, man. I'm

812
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:23,280
Speaker 1: just saying that that that is a great point because

813
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 1: I was about to say, you have to stop the runs.

814
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:29,799
Speaker 1: Sell out to stop the run and make Roethlisberger beat you.

815
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:32,799
Speaker 1: Make it two times super Bowl winning quarterback who's going

816
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:34,799
Speaker 1: to the Hall of Fame beat you, and he will

817
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:38,360
Speaker 1: probably they just it's a pick your poison thing. And

818
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 1: the Cowboys defense don't do anything really that well, and

819
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 1: the Steelers do everything well. So I actually, I mean,

820
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:51,320
Speaker 1: I yeah, obviously, if you can pressure the quarterback, you should,

821
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 1: and that would help, But like, I don't think that

822
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 1: they can. You know, you know, Bucky just talked about

823
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:58,720
Speaker 1: how quickly he gets rid of the ball, and obviously

824
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 1: the Cowboys haven't been great to get to the quarterback anyway.

825
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 1: I think that's probably a wash. Just rally and tackle.

826
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 1: I mean, you know if they if they take short throws,

827
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 1: you can't let them turn into big gains. That the

828
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,919
Speaker 1: jet sweep stuff should be terrifying, like I mean, And

829
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:16,839
Speaker 1: for those of you that didn't catch Bucky's reference, Yeah,

830
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 1: Matt Canada, he used to be LSU's offensive coordinator. His

831
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 1: whole thing, his entire offense when he was an offensive

832
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:28,359
Speaker 1: coordinator is predicated on jet sweeps, fly motions. You know,

833
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 1: iye candy as people like to call it. That should

834
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 1: be terrifying if you're a Cowboy fan, because you know

835
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 1: how well they deal with that, which is not well

836
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 1: at all. You just gotta you can't be deceived by

837
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 1: stuff like that, and you've got a rally and tackle

838
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,919
Speaker 1: and you know, have it be six eight ten yard

839
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 1: gains instead of twenty five thirty five yard games Like

840
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:51,800
Speaker 1: that's what scares me in this matchup. Nick, you mentioned

841
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:55,760
Speaker 1: Cheeto Bay coming back possibly this week. Maybe you mentioned

842
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 1: that to Bucky Brooks and kind of does what happened

843
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 1: with with Diggs last week change your opinion on whether

844
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,840
Speaker 1: you would make or you'd sit Diggs in order for

845
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 1: Cheeto to be the starter, or you kind of keep

846
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 1: it the same and just bring Cheeto int your third

847
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 1: What would you do in that situation. Diggs is playing.

848
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 1: He's the first guy out of the tunnel when they

849
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 1: announced defensive starters. He's playing. He's playing the rest of

850
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 1: the season for me because he's a baller now and

851
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:25,799
Speaker 1: now he messes up and there's no doubt about it.

852
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:28,879
Speaker 1: He makes mistakes. They're all making mistakes. He's gonna be here.

853
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 1: He's gonna be here for the next few years. I

854
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 1: don't know that about Cheeto. I don't know that about

855
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 1: Jordan Lewis, Anthony Brown. He's got a contract, he'll be here.

856
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 1: But I think I think you know. And I didn't

857
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:42,879
Speaker 1: ask Bucky about this. He wrote yesterday in his five

858
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:47,280
Speaker 1: bucks column. One of them was Diggs has a potential

859
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 1: to be an all Pro player, all Pro. You don't

860
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 1: say that about a lot of the other defensive guys.

861
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 1: So he needs to learn keep going. He's, like I said,

862
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:57,320
Speaker 1: he was having to chase to find digs around to

863
00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:01,319
Speaker 1: the entire house his whole life. So he doesn't get

864
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:04,399
Speaker 1: discouraged easily. He'll be fine. I keep him out there, Dave,

865
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 1: you said last week, even before he had the game,

866
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 1: that you would have kept him out there. Anyway you

867
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 1: say keep him out there, has anything changed, I would

868
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 1: ask at this point, no, Nick, Nick said it perfectly.

869
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:18,279
Speaker 1: He's him and Anthony Brown are the only guys in

870
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 1: the secondary that have long term futures here. He needs

871
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:23,879
Speaker 1: to play, and I think, you know, we keep saying that,

872
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 1: and I think he keeps proving us right like he

873
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 1: seems like he's got the right mindset for it. I'm

874
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 1: not worried about I'm not worried about his self confidence

875
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:35,319
Speaker 1: or his belief. And he needs the reps because if

876
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 1: he's going to develop into that player, they need it

877
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 1: to happen now so that you know when they have

878
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:42,880
Speaker 1: another chance at this thing next year, he's ready to

879
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 1: go and be a really, you know, meaningful piece of

880
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 1: that team. What do your thought, Tamber, I'll have a question,

881
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:55,400
Speaker 1: and I guess it's gonna love. Margie has a question.

882
00:43:57,600 --> 00:43:59,400
Speaker 1: This is hard for me to piece it together, but

883
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,760
Speaker 1: I hope he makes sense. Would you say that position

884
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:06,319
Speaker 1: and looking at him, knowing that he's a rookie and

885
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 1: all that, would you say that you would need to

886
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 1: give a guy like that, the most amount of reps

887
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 1: for him to be able to kind of get out there,

888
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 1: get the field going, and create some place. I mean,

889
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 1: I'm talking about one game specifically, versus maybe limiting his

890
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,440
Speaker 1: place so that when he does come in there is

891
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:27,280
Speaker 1: an extra pump of energy and he's able to maybe

892
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:31,880
Speaker 1: perform better in those specific snaps in place. Does that

893
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:33,799
Speaker 1: make any sense? No, I think it makes a lot

894
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:35,800
Speaker 1: of sense, And I'll even take it a step further.

895
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 1: It was the point I made last week that sometimes

896
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 1: with a young guy, his ability after he's been out

897
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 1: there and been in the fire, his ability to take

898
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 1: a step back and be able to see things now

899
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 1: from a different perspective from the sideline, can sometimes help him.

900
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:52,880
Speaker 1: The reps are important, obviously, but also being able to

901
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 1: see things in a different light. Now he's been in

902
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:57,799
Speaker 1: the fire, he knows what it's like, so when he's

903
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 1: watching it, he probably has a different appreciation for what's

904
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:02,440
Speaker 1: happening on the field, and there may be some learning

905
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:04,399
Speaker 1: that can happen from that as well. So I take

906
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 1: that that overall question at both me and ag asked,

907
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:08,799
Speaker 1: and I'll throw it to Nick and David. You tell

908
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 1: us what you think of it. No, it makes a

909
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 1: good sense. I just think you don't. It's not like

910
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:15,800
Speaker 1: the guy that would be coming in for him is

911
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 1: much better or better at all. I'm not even sure

912
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:21,800
Speaker 1: that he is. I would keep him out there, and

913
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:24,319
Speaker 1: I'm looking at the schedule. You know, he's gone up

914
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 1: against Robert Woods, Julio Jones, Calvin Ridley, DK Metcalf Lockett,

915
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 1: Tyler Lockett, Landry Beckham. Hopkins's faced the best, right, I mean,

916
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 1: like you know, and they've got some really good players

917
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 1: this week. But I know the rookie from Minnesota, Jeff Jefferson,

918
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, he's he's really good too, But

919
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 1: I just think that he's faced some good ones and

920
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:48,320
Speaker 1: now hit in the second half of the year. I

921
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:50,359
Speaker 1: think this is the time that maybe he can take

922
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 1: the corner. Maybe we saw it in that game. So, um,

923
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:55,879
Speaker 1: I wouldn't take him off the field because I really

924
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:58,319
Speaker 1: don't think the guy that would replace him as better. Dave.

925
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 1: Not only that, not only do I not think the

926
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 1: guy's better, Cheeto is the only corner on this team

927
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 1: who I definitively think is better than Digs right now.

928
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 1: So I agree with that, And then I just I

929
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 1: don't see it, like I understand the logic. Maybe you

930
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 1: do that with a running back, you know, like get

931
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:20,840
Speaker 1: the most juice possible out of him, But cornerback and

932
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 1: quarterback are like those are volume positions, like you just

933
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:27,399
Speaker 1: you gotta have the reps. I mean, you could send

934
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:30,279
Speaker 1: him out there in the most favorable situation imaginable and

935
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 1: he still might give up the play because that's the

936
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 1: nature of the position. It's just it's it's such a

937
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 1: hard job to play cornerback in the NFL, and I

938
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 1: think the only way you really get better at it

939
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:45,319
Speaker 1: is reps on reps on reps, and and learning how

940
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:47,359
Speaker 1: to deal with the highs and lows of it. And

941
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 1: that you know, if if we were worried about his

942
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 1: mental makeup, like you know, we can even bring you know,

943
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 1: bring up Mo Claiborn. I think Mo claiborne struggles early

944
00:46:57,160 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 1: in his career really had an effect on his develop

945
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:02,840
Speaker 1: And I'm not trying to like, you know, I'm not

946
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 1: trying to trash the guy. I just that's what it

947
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 1: looked like to me. Whereas I don't get that same

948
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 1: sense with Digs that he is going to go into

949
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:13,839
Speaker 1: the tank if he struggles. I mean, he's bounced back

950
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:16,399
Speaker 1: in the face of every adversity that he's seen so far.

951
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 1: So if I was worried that he was going to

952
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:21,359
Speaker 1: go into the tank, would I might agree, But I

953
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:24,319
Speaker 1: haven't seen evidence of that, So I say, just get

954
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 1: out there and take your lumps and it'll make you

955
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 1: a better player in the long run. Yeah. Quite Frankly,

956
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:30,880
Speaker 1: he's shown just the opposite. He's shown his ability to

957
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 1: deal with adversity well, whether it's within a play as

958
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:35,279
Speaker 1: he did with a play with DK Metcalf when he

959
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 1: was beat and came back and made a play. He's

960
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:39,440
Speaker 1: done it within games where he's been beat and then

961
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 1: made plays later in the game. And he's done it

962
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 1: week to week where he's been beat one week and

963
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 1: he'll come back and he'll make a play the next week.

964
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think everything points to the fact that

965
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 1: this is not a guy that gets mental. This is

966
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 1: a guy that can handle the rigors of playing cornerback. Cornerback,

967
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 1: which for me personally, I think that's probably about at

968
00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:59,760
Speaker 1: least fifty percent of the job of playing cornerback is mentally,

969
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:02,360
Speaker 1: can you stay in it when when bad things happen?

970
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 1: And I think it looks like he certainly has that. Yeah.

971
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 1: I was just gonna say, you know, there's only three

972
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 1: players on the defense that have played over five hundred snaps,

973
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:14,360
Speaker 1: and he's one of them. He's playing nine of the snaps,

974
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 1: you know, five hundred and thirty two. Xavier Woods and

975
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:20,400
Speaker 1: Jalen Smith have not missed a snap on defense. I

976
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:22,439
Speaker 1: don't care what they're doing. I mean, that's impressive, just

977
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 1: just from a standpoint of, you know, staying in there

978
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:26,880
Speaker 1: and not getting banged up and having to come off

979
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 1: the field. I know there's been a lot of talk

980
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 1: maybe they should, you know, maybe they should come off

981
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:33,759
Speaker 1: the field a little bit. But but for Diggs, I mean,

982
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:35,759
Speaker 1: he's playing a lot. All right, appreciate you join this.

983
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 1: We'll be back tomorrow. We'll get into a little bit

984
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:41,360
Speaker 1: more conversation about the Cowboys offense versus the Pittsburgh defense.

985
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:43,759
Speaker 1: Till then for Nick Even, Dave Helman, Amber Garcia. I

986
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 1: am Derek Eagleton. This has been The Break live on

987
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