1 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:19,600 Speaker 1: Welcome into tag Dan today. I'm Pinnannie Stevens, Brian Sexson, 2 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:21,480 Speaker 1: and John Osier are with me. I hope you all 3 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:24,639 Speaker 1: had a very enjoyable long weekend. But back to action 4 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:27,319 Speaker 1: here at the Eve Miller Electric Center. OTA's are going 5 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: to kick off again later this afternoon. OTA number four 6 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:33,480 Speaker 1: out of ten. But an eventful weekend for the first 7 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:35,279 Speaker 1: round draft pick. Let's start out with our big thing, 8 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 1: number one, which is another one, a very monumental day. 9 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 1: We want to give congratulations to Travis Hunter and his 10 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 1: new wife, Leanna, who got married over the weekend. But 11 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 1: an eventful month for Travis Hunter overall because getting drafted 12 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 1: into the NFL. He's the first person in his family 13 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 1: to graduate from college, turned twenty two. 14 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 2: And then he got married. 15 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 1: Friend, it's a lot of life events in one. We're 16 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: putting a ton of pressure on him to play both 17 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 1: sides of the football. But if anybody's up for it, 18 00:00:59,200 --> 00:00:59,959 Speaker 1: I think it might be him. 19 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 2: Well, you know, somebody at the draft told me that 20 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 2: this kid loves football and he loves fishing. So he's 21 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 2: cleared all the decks for everything he needed to get done, graduating, 22 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:12,320 Speaker 2: getting married, getting drafted, getting acclimated. 23 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 3: I guess there's another one. John. 24 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 2: He's got to get his contract done, but it appears 25 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 2: that that's just a formality at this point in today's 26 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 2: day in. 27 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 3: Age of the NFL. 28 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 2: But he's clear the decks Ky Now all of a sudden, 29 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 2: he can focus on his new wife for the next 30 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 2: couple of weeks and then training camp rolls around. 31 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:28,040 Speaker 3: It's all about football. 32 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 4: Well, the best player in franchise history came in here, 33 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 4: Tony Besselli, and get married a couple weeks later, So 34 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:36,680 Speaker 4: maybe as a formula works. I'm sure others have done it. 35 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 4: It was it was cool to sort of go through 36 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 4: on social media and see Travis's big day, nothing but 37 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 4: the best. So it's it's uh, I'm I'm waiting for 38 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 4: my car. You know he's beginning comes at this point. Yes, 39 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 4: so you know I'm available. I'm in the MEC all 40 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 4: the time. 41 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 1: I'll let him know. Let's go through some of our 42 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 1: other big things, which are some of the changes we 43 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: saw at the NFL meetings. So some things change. One 44 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: of the big changes are one thing that I'm interested 45 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 1: in at least is that NFL players are going to 46 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 1: be allowed to play in flag football in the Olympics 47 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: represented the United States if they're chosen for the team. So, John, 48 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: if you were gonna pick one of the Jaguars to 49 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 1: play flag football for the USA, who do you think 50 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 1: your chick? 51 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 4: The The old cynic in me would say none. That's 52 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 4: why these guys getting hurt. So I'll just I'll put 53 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 4: that aside, because I'm sure they are administrators and coaches 54 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 4: thinking that way. You know, I'm gonna say maybe Travis 55 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 4: Hunter because of the two way element, you know, and 56 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:40,920 Speaker 4: because of the of the dynamic element. There are certainly 57 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 4: guys on this team who have the speed and the 58 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 4: quickness to play that game. I don't know much about 59 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 4: how flag football look in the Olympics. 60 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 5: I know it'll look better than when I played. 61 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 3: It just a little bit. 62 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 2: Well, it won't be played in the sand. Anybody remember 63 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:57,919 Speaker 2: the name of Robert Edwards. It'll be played on turf. 64 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 2: And so from that perspective of the NFL's said, go ahead, 65 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 2: I'll take Brian Thomas Junior because he did play so 66 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:06,079 Speaker 2: well at the Pro Bowl games in January. 67 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:06,959 Speaker 5: Very good call. 68 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 1: I think speed and just getting around some of the 69 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 1: flags and pulling that's probably a good call. Some things 70 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 1: will stay the same though, as we saw they voted 71 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: they were trying to ban the push. They didn't get 72 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: enough votes. The Jaguars voted to keep the tust push, 73 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 1: probably because they stopped it a couple of times this year, 74 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 1: even though they didn't win that game. Another change that 75 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 1: did not happen Brian, was they're not doing the receding 76 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 1: in the playoffs. They talked about maybe if you win 77 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 1: your division but you don't have the best record, you 78 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 1: wouldn't get a home game, but they haven't done away 79 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: with that yet. That seems like something that may come 80 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 1: up again. 81 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 3: Though you know, the NFL is loathed to change. 82 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 2: They for years talked about eliminating the kickoff or finding 83 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 2: a different way to execute the kickoff, and it wasn't 84 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 2: until recently last year that they went ahead. 85 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 3: And made the change. 86 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 2: I expect that this is going to happen at some 87 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 2: point in time. It just seems coming down the road. 88 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 2: All the other things that have happened just take more time. 89 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 2: It won't have happen maybe for two or three more years, 90 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 2: but eventually they'll get there. 91 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think they'll reced because I think owners 92 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 4: and people involved with the league. Want there to be 93 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 4: a real prize that comes with winning the division and 94 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 4: getting the playoffs. Yes, that's a prize, but I think 95 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 4: owners who ultimately decide this like having that home playoff 96 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 4: game as they cared for in the division. 97 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 5: Uh. 98 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 4: And it's it's been talked about before. I remember this 99 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 4: being talked about back in five or six. I think 100 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 4: it always sounds great when it's talked about on social media, 101 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 4: but once after it comes down to a vote, these 102 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 4: guys don't wan to change. 103 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, but here's the change though we saw last week 104 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 2: with Bob Ursay's passing. 105 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 3: Does get Bob, but sorry, Bob was his dad. You know. 106 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 3: Now his daughter is running the show. 107 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 2: And Bob McNair's passed a few years ago in Houston 108 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 2: and his son is running show. And I think over 109 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 2: time you'll see some of the kids, some of the 110 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 2: family members, maybe some of the private equity firms that 111 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 2: are getting involved have. 112 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 3: A bit of a say, we'll see. 113 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 2: I don't want to see it change because I like 114 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 2: you like the value of the rivalries, but this league 115 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 2: is changing fast and over time. 116 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:20,279 Speaker 1: I think it might something to keep an eye on 117 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 1: for sure. Stay with us here on Jagzam. We're gonna 118 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 1: look around the division before we get to training camp, 119 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 1: see what everyone else is doing. We're gonna check out 120 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 1: what's up with the Cults after the break. Jag Zam 121 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 1: Today brought to you by Fresh from Florida. It is 122 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:39,280 Speaker 1: always in season. You welcome you back here. As the 123 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 1: Jaguars are in the middle of OTZ right now, I 124 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: figured it was kind of time to check in on 125 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 1: what's going around going on in the division because we've 126 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 1: got three more weeks until we take a little bit 127 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:50,040 Speaker 1: of a break before training camp. So let's talk about 128 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 1: the three other teams. So checking in with the Colts. 129 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 1: Obviously we mentioned a little bit earlier, but owner Jim 130 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: ursa passing away. John, I know you worked there for 131 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 1: some time. Hearing that news and kind of hearing all 132 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 1: this stories coming out, You're familiar with what was going 133 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 1: on and just kind of that blow that they're dealing 134 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: with now. 135 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, I left the Colts fifteen years ago, so I 136 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 4: knew Jim for ten years, from one to about twenty ten. Look, 137 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 4: it'll be a blow for the franchise because he was 138 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 4: beloved by players, coaches. 139 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 5: He was a football guy. 140 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:22,840 Speaker 4: He had a lot of influence when I was there 141 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:28,040 Speaker 4: over President Bill Pollian being hired, Tony Dune being hired. 142 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 4: He had a lot of say in Peyton Manning's drafting. 143 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 4: So his football expertise that he developed when he was 144 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 4: growing up and working as a GM, working in a 145 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:40,159 Speaker 4: lot of facets of the organization helped him to be 146 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 4: a good owner. I don't really know that much the 147 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:47,719 Speaker 4: last fifteen years. My understanding is the daughters have taken 148 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 4: more and more ownership. 149 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 5: If you will, and leading the organization. 150 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 4: Carly Will, I believe, takeover running the team's been doing 151 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 4: it for about ten or eleven years. They've been transitioning 152 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:02,599 Speaker 4: to that for while. I don't expect, you know, and 153 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:04,720 Speaker 4: I'm talking way out of turns. I haven't been around for. 154 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:05,160 Speaker 5: A long time. 155 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 4: I wouldn't expect the day to day and the spirit 156 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 4: of that organization to change much with Jim's passing. 157 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 5: But rest of peace, Jim ares. 158 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 2: I read somewhere that Jim Ursay made Indianapolis a football town. 159 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 2: It had been the Pacers, it had been basketball, it 160 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 2: had been the Indy five hundred. 161 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 5: You agree with it, No, Peyton made India football town. 162 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 1: Okay, fair enough, let's talk a little bit about the 163 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 1: quarterback competition in Indianapolis, because that's going to be the 164 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 1: story for them. A lot of this year will be 165 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson, who had his ups and downs so far, 166 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 1: haven't seen a ton of them just due to injury 167 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 1: and then some of his other issues on the field 168 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: kind of getting benched and coming back. But now with 169 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones in the house as well, it'll be a 170 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 1: little bit of a competition. 171 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 5: Brian. 172 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, Daniel Jones obviously a more accomplished passer, but I 173 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 2: remember Daniel Jones from a couple of years ago when 174 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 2: he came in here beat the Jaguars with his. 175 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 3: Legs running all over the field. This guy is an enigma. 176 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 3: I mean, he's he's got everything you could want. 177 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 2: He's the height, the length, speed, power, but he can't 178 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 2: stay healthy. So just based on what we've seen from 179 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 2: his first two years in the NFL, I would say 180 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 2: Daniel Jones is sitting in the catfert scene. 181 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, if Anthony Richardson turns it on, he's got a chance. 182 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 5: To be a start to be very good. 183 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 4: But that's always been the sentence associated with him and 184 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 4: he hasn't done it yet. So It's a smart move 185 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 4: by the Colts to have somebody ready. I would think 186 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:31,679 Speaker 4: Anthony Richardson gets every chance, probably wins the job because 187 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 4: of the draft status and the talent, but can he 188 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 4: be on the field and canny play well? 189 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 5: So smart move by the Colts. 190 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 4: It feels like this is one of those years that 191 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 4: for them that they do this just to make sure 192 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 4: and then they have to move on next year. 193 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:51,679 Speaker 5: That's the vibe. But maybe Ar proves that different. 194 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:53,079 Speaker 2: Well, And I don't know that they have the surrounding 195 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 2: cast for Daniel Jones that Sam Darnold had in Minneapolis 196 00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 2: last year, but he could be this year's Where did 197 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 2: this guy come from? 198 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, someone in their second spot kind of getting reinventing 199 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 1: themselves a little bit. 200 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 3: So I'm sure we've seen he see that. 201 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, and one of those new weapons he got in 202 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 1: the draft they drafted. They went for Tyler Warren the 203 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 1: tight end for their first round pick. Ryan, you were 204 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:16,599 Speaker 1: at the draft, you got to speak to some of 205 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 1: these guys. What did you hear from him and. 206 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 3: What did you see? 207 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 2: Well, I didn't get a chance to talk to him 208 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 2: as much as I got a chance to see him 209 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 2: and listen the guy has this interesting He's tall and 210 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 2: he's long, and he's athletic, and everyone makes the comparison 211 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 2: to the great tight ends in the game, Rob Lenkowski, 212 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:36,680 Speaker 2: who I know you covered, and Travis Kelce and the 213 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 2: way that he was used by Penn State and their 214 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:44,079 Speaker 2: new offensive coordinator last year, guy named Andy Kolonecki. They 215 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 2: used him in so many different ways. When you see 216 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 2: him and you see the length that he has and 217 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 2: just the body style, he's going to be a matchup 218 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 2: nightmare for a lot of people because you're going to 219 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 2: get a smaller safety or a bigger linebacker that's going 220 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 2: to have to cover him, and he looks like a 221 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 2: mismatch for no matter who is across from them. 222 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, he'll be very interesting. 223 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 4: Tight end's taken that high and sort of as the 224 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 4: chosen ones haven't. 225 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 5: Always fared that well. 226 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 4: Brock Bauer sort of broke that trend as a guy 227 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 4: who you could feature into the offense. I expect Tyler 228 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 4: Warren to be that guy and it certainly helps Anthony 229 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 4: Richardson if he is quickly. 230 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 1: Absolutely all right, stay with us. We're gonna come back 231 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 1: through some ozone mail bag questions. We answer questions from 232 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:35,560 Speaker 1: the fans, move the freight, Move the freight. Magellan Transport 233 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 1: voted the coolest office space in Jacksonville. You can apply 234 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 1: online at Magellanlogistics dot com. I got to check in 235 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 1: with the OSA wise John Oser about some of these 236 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 1: fan questions we have. We're gonna check in with Greg 237 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 1: fran Jacksonville. First off, he says, do you think it 238 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:58,319 Speaker 1: is possible for a player like Travis Hunter who will 239 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 1: go both ways? Supposedly and Rookie of the Year honors 240 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 1: on both offense and defense? Are those awards fan based 241 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 1: like the Pro Bowl? Or is that strictly tiers and 242 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:06,680 Speaker 1: lead voting. 243 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 5: Well, it's funny, Brian, when every people talk about awards. 244 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 5: Many organizations give out these awards. The most prominent Rookie. 245 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 4: Of the Year vote is the AP vote, which is 246 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 4: usually the most prominent of the votes. That's writers doing it. 247 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:26,959 Speaker 4: There is a offense and a defense. There's no reason 248 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 4: why Travis Hunter, if he performs on both sides of 249 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 4: the ball, couldn't be both. It would be amazing if 250 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 4: he was. And then there's others. You know, it's very 251 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 4: little peer voting in that among the more exclusive or exclusive, 252 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:47,119 Speaker 4: one of the more prestigious Sporting news has one, pfw 253 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 4: A has one. 254 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 5: But could he do it? 255 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, for the ones that have offense and defense, there's 256 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 4: no reason he couldn't be voted that well. 257 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 3: He'd have to play at an incredible level. 258 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's so hard, and I don't want 259 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 2: to tamp down people's expectations too much, although I think 260 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 2: they're doing a job with it by focusing his time 261 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 2: on offense and talking about how they're going to work 262 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 2: him in on defense. But the level of performance that 263 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 2: it would take for a guy to play at the 264 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 2: highest level at receiver and at corner, I just I 265 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:19,079 Speaker 2: can't get my brain wrapped around it because it takes 266 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 2: it takes rookies time to figure out where they're supposed 267 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 2: to be and when they're supposed to be there. Kay, 268 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 2: let alone you know what time we eat and what 269 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 2: time the bus shows up, and to master their their 270 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:34,079 Speaker 2: craft at a high of a level at one position. 271 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 2: Now we're talking too, could he? I don't know. I 272 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 2: think who are asking a lot. 273 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 1: I think it might be tough on the defensive side 274 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 1: of the football, just because of the amount of snaps 275 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:46,440 Speaker 1: he may get will be limited less than offense. And 276 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:48,959 Speaker 1: then also I feel like with the defensive player of 277 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 1: the awards sometimes can edge towards, you know. 278 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 5: Edge players because you have sacks. 279 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 1: You can look at a specific stats. Sometimes, you know, 280 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 1: pass breakups and things like that aren't as impressive unless 281 00:12:57,040 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 1: you have the interception numbers. So that'll be something to keep. 282 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 4: The spirit of the question was is it possible? Certainly, sure, 283 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 4: it's possible he would. He would probably have to get 284 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:09,959 Speaker 4: a pick six or two, get some points and get 285 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 4: people talking about him. I think the other reason he 286 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 4: would have a theoretical chance is he's coming in so 287 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 4: high profile, and often that award is sometimes it doesn't 288 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 4: necessarily go to the most deserving, it goes to the 289 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 4: most high profile some of these awards. So if he 290 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:29,959 Speaker 4: were to have the great offensive numbers that people expect 291 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 4: him to have and a couple of pick sixes, he 292 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 4: could get that sort of award. But you know, let's 293 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 4: hope that the conversation is real in December. 294 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 3: You take one, I mean you'd take one. 295 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 1: I'll take any pick sixs that are available. This one 296 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 1: is a term I hear a lot. So Christoph Fleming 297 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:49,200 Speaker 1: island ozone. Are we winning the off season again? 298 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, I kind of laughed when I was answering this question. 299 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 4: I guess I don't know what this means anymore. I 300 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 4: feel like they had, you know, I feel like if 301 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 4: you ask Jaguars people, meaning James Gladstone, the people involved 302 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 4: putting the off season together, I would think they felt 303 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 4: like they won. Usually when people talk about winning the 304 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 4: off season, it becomes sort of, you know, it's a 305 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 4: little bit of a sarcasta hang, oh, we won the 306 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:13,559 Speaker 4: off season, we. 307 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 5: Couldn't win the regular season. 308 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 4: I didn't feel like it was that sort of off season, Brian, 309 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 4: where they were trying to go win and trying to 310 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 4: get headlines. 311 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 5: So I don't feel like it's that. 312 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 4: I feel like there's some profile to this off season 313 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 4: because of Travis Hunter, and that's the energy. I feel 314 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 4: like it's a good off season, but I don't know 315 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 4: if it deserves the Oh they won the off season, 316 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 4: they because to me, winning the off season means being stupid. 317 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 2: I mean spending ridiculous amounts of money in free agency, 318 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 2: which we've done around here. 319 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 5: And I don't think that was the spirit of this offseason. 320 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 2: No, it wasn't anything like twenty seventeen. And listen, twenty seventeen, 321 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 2: they won the Yeah, twenty twenty three, twenty seventeen. 322 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 3: They won the off season. Then they won in the season. 323 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 2: But in every other year where they went out and 324 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 2: spent incredible amounts of money, they didn't think it was 325 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 2: just pointing. 326 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 3: So here's how they won the off season. 327 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 2: They brought the fan base back at the end of 328 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 2: last year when they fired the coach and kept the 329 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 2: GM and everybody was just done and threw their hands up, 330 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 2: and you know, where is this thing going. Well, from 331 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 2: the time that they made the change and hired Liam 332 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 2: and Tony and James Gladstone and then went and spent 333 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 2: what I thought was very prudently in free agency and 334 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 2: then made the move to get Travis Hunter. So in 335 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 2: that sense, they absolutely have won the off season. Because 336 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 2: I don't know about you guys, but everywhere I go, 337 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 2: people are excited for the season, can't wait for the season. 338 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 2: I mean, we're standing in line at publics wherever you 339 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 2: are on the beach on Memorial Day. Everyone wants to 340 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 2: talk about this team. And none of us felt like 341 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:44,359 Speaker 2: that was going to be the case when the season. 342 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 3: Ended last year. 343 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 1: It's true, all right, And finally Keith from Titusville, Florivan, 344 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 1: wants to talk about the safeties. He says, I feel 345 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 1: like the depth of the safety position is not being 346 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 1: talked about enough. Eric Murray, Darnell Savage, Antonio Johnson, Taylor Bransaw, 347 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 1: Andrew Winger, Rayon Lane and Daniel Thomas. How many safeties 348 00:15:58,360 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 1: do you think the team will keep? 349 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 4: I think it's deep. I think the question is is 350 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 4: it great? I think they think they moved to improve it. 351 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 4: I think they showed you what they thought of last 352 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 4: year's safeties by going out and getting Eric Murray, by 353 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 4: drafting two, I mean they knew this was a position 354 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 4: they had to be overhauled. I think it will be seen, 355 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 4: you know, it remains to be seen if it's deep 356 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 4: and as good as they want it. I think it's 357 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 4: a position and transition. 358 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 5: I would expect Dewey. 359 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 4: I mentioned him first, Caleb brand Saw and Eric Murray 360 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 4: expect to start. I expect Dewey and Rayon Lane to 361 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 4: have key roles. After that, we'll see what happened. 362 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 2: Passay, you're going to have five because Daniel Thomas is 363 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 2: one of your best special teams performers and has been 364 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 2: for a number of years, so you're not going to 365 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 2: move him off the roster, especially with Heath Farwell sticking 366 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 2: around as the special teams coordinator. 367 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 3: So I would say five. 368 00:16:57,800 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 1: I think we may see rayon lane and doing a 369 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 1: lot of special teams as well. I know he's done 370 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 1: that in college. That's something to keep an eye on. 371 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 1: But I think more than anything, just different from last year. 372 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 5: Week. 373 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:06,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, it would be great. 374 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:07,679 Speaker 5: Stay with here. 375 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what's coming up. 376 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 5: The rest of the. 377 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:23,119 Speaker 1: Week mentioned an eventful month for Travis Hunter. But how 378 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 1: about this kid practicing football outside his house. Travis Hunter 379 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 1: just walks up pretty nice surprise, And I love that. 380 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:30,639 Speaker 1: We just have all these videos. We have Travis on 381 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:33,439 Speaker 1: the plane talking to an older lady helping her with 382 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:36,160 Speaker 1: her bags, and everyone's just having a Travis Hunter run 383 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 1: in around Jacksonville. And he's gonna be good here. 384 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:42,400 Speaker 2: I can tell he is all typic to people who 385 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 2: have met him, they understand that this is just who 386 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 2: he is. This is not contrived. Forget all the cameras 387 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:48,639 Speaker 2: that are always following him around. 388 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 3: That's just the world he lives in. He is the 389 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 3: real deal. 390 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 5: Yeah. 391 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:57,160 Speaker 4: I think he likes people, and it seems and everybody's 392 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:59,160 Speaker 4: like this, I don't care about this. He likes making 393 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 4: other people happy, so it's okay. Yeah, I mean, and 394 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 4: it's cool to see it seems very genuine. Sometimes when 395 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 4: you talk about a guy's character, and when James Glasman 396 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 4: talks about lifting an organization, the old cynic in me 397 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 4: is like, that didn't really happen. 398 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 5: This kid's the real deal. It's fun to be around. 399 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:20,880 Speaker 3: Just what do what you guys think? 400 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:24,640 Speaker 2: If there's so much attention on him, much more than 401 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:28,440 Speaker 2: he had even at Colorado with Deon Sanders and that crew, 402 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:33,879 Speaker 2: you just wonder how the pressure of performing at this level, 403 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 2: all the two way talk, the question that we got earlier. 404 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 3: I get the spirits. Could he win both? 405 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 2: But there will be some conversations, you know, if he 406 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 2: goes out and has a great game on both sides 407 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 2: of the ball. I just I wonder how he deals 408 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:49,199 Speaker 2: with it, if it's pressure or if his personality is 409 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:51,160 Speaker 2: just such that it just doesn't bother. 410 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 5: Yeah. 411 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 4: I think so far he's had such success that he'd 412 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 4: probably he had many big deal The question will become 413 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 4: adversity in the NFL, which usually even for great rookies happens. 414 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:06,679 Speaker 4: How he deals with that, but that is the question 415 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 4: that you ask of most rookies when they come into 416 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 4: the NFL. So uh, he'll have more attention on it, 417 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:12,159 Speaker 4: but I think he's used to that. 418 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 1: Sure, he'll be back on the field with his teammates today, John, 419 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:18,199 Speaker 1: your favorite OTAs continue. I love it, best time of here, 420 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:21,119 Speaker 1: Helmets of Shorts. We will update you next VEHK. We'll 421 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 1: hear from everybody a little later on today, but we'll 422 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:43,400 Speaker 1: see on Jagdam next Tuesday.