WEBVTT - Episode 442 - Michael Walsh 0:00:00.030 --> 0:00:03.620 Joining us today on Bucko Banter is Pirates pitching prospect 0:00:03.880 --> 0:00:07.330 Michael Walsh. You're listening to the Bucko Banter podcast brought 0:00:07.350 --> 0:00:09.730 to you by the Just Baseball Media Network. Cue the music. 0:00:10.330 --> 0:00:14.550 Joining us again on Bucko Banner is a very special guest, Mr. 0:00:14.590 --> 0:00:17.870 Michael Walsh. It's always good talking. 0:00:17.590 --> 0:00:18.160 To you, sir. 0:00:18.220 --> 0:00:41.030 How you doing? I'm fantastic. Very special. You're teeing it 0:00:41.130 --> 0:00:45.280 up over here, huh? Very special. I'm honored. I'm honored. 0:00:45.320 --> 0:00:46.699 I'm happy to be here chopping it up with you 0:00:46.740 --> 0:00:49.560 guys again. It's been a long time. We caught you 0:00:49.580 --> 0:00:52.190 guys in Altoona for a couple days there, didn't I, 0:00:52.200 --> 0:00:53.060 at the end of the year? Yeah. 0:00:53.200 --> 0:00:55.560 We were there for one of the last series, end 0:00:55.600 --> 0:00:58.230 of August. Always got to make it out there. 0:00:58.620 --> 0:01:02.029 Short two-hour drive or so. There it is. It's good 0:01:02.050 --> 0:01:03.670 to see you fellas again, man. I wish I was 0:01:03.710 --> 0:01:06.590 talking to you guys with the Pirates team in the 0:01:06.670 --> 0:01:08.759 NLCS right now, but it is what it is. We'll 0:01:08.800 --> 0:01:13.160 go at them next year. We'll retool, re-engage. We'll be tanned, rested, 0:01:13.200 --> 0:01:14.819 and ready by the time we come into spring training 0:01:14.840 --> 0:01:16.060 next year to do a little bit of damage. 0:01:16.720 --> 0:01:19.400 You get a little tan out there in Arizona. How's 0:01:19.440 --> 0:01:20.940 it been treating you so far out there in the 0:01:20.980 --> 0:01:21.420 Fall League? 0:01:22.180 --> 0:01:24.410 Dude, I don't get tanned out here. I'm an Irish guy. 0:01:24.420 --> 0:01:28.190 I get cooked. I get burnt. It's been fantastic. It's 0:01:28.230 --> 0:01:29.870 been fantastic so far. It's been a little bit of 0:01:29.930 --> 0:01:32.750 an adjustment period, getting adjusted to the climate. Honestly, on 0:01:32.770 --> 0:01:35.450 the baseball side of things, like, The ball spins a 0:01:35.450 --> 0:01:39.330 little bit different. It sounds kind of overkill or over, 0:01:39.850 --> 0:01:43.990 you know, I guess over-exaggerated, but the ball flies different. 0:01:44.610 --> 0:01:48.190 It moves a little bit different, but it's beautiful out here, man. 0:01:48.210 --> 0:01:49.580 I love the desert. I don't get a chance to 0:01:49.590 --> 0:01:52.240 be out west very often, so it's nice to be 0:01:52.280 --> 0:01:52.520 out here. 0:01:53.400 --> 0:01:56.360 So jumping back to the season, you started the season 0:01:56.380 --> 0:01:58.340 a little bit later working back from injury. Talk about 0:01:58.380 --> 0:02:01.200 that process and how you started to feel comfortable again 0:02:01.560 --> 0:02:03.440 this season in Altoona and Indy. 0:02:03.200 --> 0:02:06.390 For a short cup of coffee. Yeah, it was a 0:02:06.430 --> 0:02:07.770 tough year, to be honest with you. It was a 0:02:07.790 --> 0:02:11.190 tough year. Definitely got off to the wrong foot with 0:02:11.350 --> 0:02:13.890 the injury in spring training. Had a really good offseason 0:02:13.910 --> 0:02:16.269 last year, trying to add a couple ticks to the heater, 0:02:16.290 --> 0:02:19.049 add a little bit of size. Thought I achieved those 0:02:19.090 --> 0:02:24.570 goals coming into spring. And then, man, dadgum Twin Lakes. 0:02:24.690 --> 0:02:27.040 That field on the right is unlucky. I'll tell you what. 0:02:27.060 --> 0:02:30.600 I had my first professional outing on that field in 0:02:30.620 --> 0:02:34.820 spring training in 2023 spring. I smoked a kid in 0:02:34.840 --> 0:02:38.280 the head. yelled foul ball, he unbelieved it, and I 0:02:38.300 --> 0:02:41.960 got an 0-1 count out of it. But it was 0:02:42.000 --> 0:02:44.079 one of the most hectic, chaotic innings you've ever seen 0:02:44.120 --> 0:02:48.980 in professional baseball history. What else has happened there? Then 0:02:49.020 --> 0:02:53.260 I went back the following year. I had Gunnar Henderson 0:02:53.280 --> 0:02:55.560 for the first A-B, both of my innings. I actually 0:02:55.580 --> 0:02:58.720 threw okay, but it was just like a nonsense inning. 0:02:58.760 --> 0:03:02.320 It was like broken bat singles, kind of weird, just 0:03:02.380 --> 0:03:04.799 weird dynamics. And then I go back there this year, man, 0:03:04.820 --> 0:03:08.639 and I freaking leave my oblique on the field. That 0:03:08.720 --> 0:03:11.940 field definitely has my number over there. But regardless, unfortunate 0:03:11.980 --> 0:03:14.000 timing on the injury side of things, coming off some 0:03:14.020 --> 0:03:16.540 momentum in the offseason, an awful good year last year. 0:03:16.560 --> 0:03:20.690 And then coming back into it, first stint in Altoona, 0:03:20.720 --> 0:03:22.430 I thought I was throwing the ball pretty well. I 0:03:22.470 --> 0:03:24.510 got nicked up a couple times for some runs. But 0:03:24.610 --> 0:03:27.410 all in all, controlling what I can control, the baseball 0:03:27.430 --> 0:03:29.630 is coming off my hand pretty good. oblique started to 0:03:29.650 --> 0:03:31.669 feel solid. And then I go up to Indy for 0:03:31.710 --> 0:03:33.430 a couple of games and that second inning, something just 0:03:33.450 --> 0:03:35.890 didn't feel right in my side as my first time 0:03:35.930 --> 0:03:37.690 dealing with an oblique in my career. And I think, 0:03:38.340 --> 0:03:39.900 you know, I, I don't know what it was the 0:03:39.940 --> 0:03:42.580 second stint around, we got MRIs and things were clean. 0:03:42.600 --> 0:03:44.600 I don't know if it was inflammation or just some, 0:03:45.080 --> 0:03:47.480 just some, some stress and some scar tissue. I don't 0:03:47.500 --> 0:03:49.420 know exactly what was, what was the deal with that, 0:03:49.520 --> 0:03:51.840 with that area. Um, when I tweeted the second time, 0:03:51.880 --> 0:03:54.000 but coming off that second time, I couldn't find a 0:03:54.040 --> 0:04:00.810 rhythm for a for a stretch, but then made some adjustments, 0:04:01.050 --> 0:04:03.830 walk the pitching coach up there and Daveed and Altoona 0:04:03.890 --> 0:04:05.970 and then Foxy as well, just working, working with me 0:04:06.490 --> 0:04:08.890 on some mechanical adjustments. I think we really found some, 0:04:09.050 --> 0:04:14.560 some sustainable success at the end there. And, you know, 0:04:14.580 --> 0:04:16.640 I was happy to, you know, ultimately get an opportunity 0:04:16.680 --> 0:04:19.640 again in Indy that last week, just getting put on 0:04:19.660 --> 0:04:22.400 the roster and kind of like a, Hey, like if 0:04:22.440 --> 0:04:24.200 a guy goes down or we need a guy, you're 0:04:24.220 --> 0:04:26.500 that dude. It was, you know, would have been nice 0:04:26.760 --> 0:04:29.820 to get in there and get some more innings, but hey, 0:04:29.900 --> 0:04:32.500 I understand, like, you need those guys sometimes at the 0:04:32.540 --> 0:04:33.740 end of the year to go up and just be 0:04:33.779 --> 0:04:35.140 that guy, and I was honored to fill the role, 0:04:35.200 --> 0:04:38.460 and I definitely felt like I was coming into the 0:04:38.500 --> 0:04:41.390 Fall League with some juice and some momentum, having made 0:04:41.410 --> 0:04:43.690 a couple adjustments throughout the year to get back on 0:04:43.730 --> 0:04:47.190 the right track. Struggling stinks. You don't want to, you 0:04:47.210 --> 0:04:49.430 want to save the, you want to get to the 0:04:49.470 --> 0:04:51.490 big leagues and then maybe struggle and then figure it 0:04:51.529 --> 0:04:53.740 out up there, but It's part of it along the way. 0:04:53.779 --> 0:04:55.900 I've struggled at a lot of different levels of baseball. 0:04:56.960 --> 0:04:58.340 And I think ultimately, if you can make it out 0:04:58.360 --> 0:05:01.719 the other end and make the proper adjustments, it's always 0:05:01.740 --> 0:05:05.530 a good thing. So I'm just hoping to use my 0:05:05.550 --> 0:05:08.450 time out here to prove that, hey, we got our footing. 0:05:09.110 --> 0:05:12.010 We made some tweaks and just keep the momentum going 0:05:12.050 --> 0:05:15.770 into a year next year, which things are getting interesting. 0:05:15.880 --> 0:05:18.700 Who knows what's going to go down with the CBA? 0:05:19.040 --> 0:05:21.000 Great landscape on the team, obviously. I think there's a 0:05:21.020 --> 0:05:25.250 lot of optimism around around the pirates um and i'm 0:05:25.270 --> 0:05:26.980 just you know it's an exciting time i'm excited to 0:05:27.010 --> 0:05:28.160 go you know try to make. 0:05:28.100 --> 0:05:31.339 A run going out to the fall league was the 0:05:31.360 --> 0:05:34.740 pirates approach at least how they presented to you hey 0:05:35.320 --> 0:05:37.320 you missed some time this year we made some adjustments 0:05:37.779 --> 0:05:40.000 like you just mentioned let's go get some more innings 0:05:40.060 --> 0:05:41.920 or is it hey we're going to continue working on 0:05:41.960 --> 0:05:44.900 these mechanical adjustments or was it a little bit of both. 0:05:45.680 --> 0:05:46.800 It was a little bit of both i think uh 0:05:47.500 --> 0:05:49.700 i finished the year with 45 innings i didn't have 0:05:49.720 --> 0:05:51.620 a ton of innings coming out of college and i 0:05:51.640 --> 0:05:55.260 think an observation that I made in the three, four 0:05:55.290 --> 0:05:57.330 years I've been in pro ball is the more innings 0:05:57.370 --> 0:05:59.210 I can get under my belt, the easier it is 0:05:59.250 --> 0:06:02.170 for me to learn and adapt. And you almost kind of, uh, 0:06:02.210 --> 0:06:04.090 you almost kind of have this like relationship with at 0:06:04.130 --> 0:06:06.969 bats as a pitcher. And it's like, you come into 0:06:07.010 --> 0:06:08.690 spring and you can be a little bit sloppy. You 0:06:08.710 --> 0:06:10.000 can be a little bit, you know, you're not as 0:06:10.080 --> 0:06:11.240 crisp as you are at the end of the year, 0:06:11.260 --> 0:06:13.980 but I think understanding like how to operate in your one, 0:06:14.040 --> 0:06:16.320 one counts and your OO counts and your O one counts, 0:06:16.360 --> 0:06:20.099 like understanding count leverage and, and where to attack hitters 0:06:20.140 --> 0:06:22.640 and how to attack hitters dependent upon their strengths. is 0:06:22.680 --> 0:06:25.340 something that just takes. So it was, it was a, 0:06:25.400 --> 0:06:27.490 you know, long winded, long winded answer to say it 0:06:27.510 --> 0:06:28.950 was a two way street. I got a call from 0:06:29.010 --> 0:06:31.250 churn at the end of the year talking about, Hey, like, 0:06:31.430 --> 0:06:33.690 you know, we know it wasn't the year that you 0:06:33.730 --> 0:06:36.990 wanted to have for yourself, you know, obviously I'm starting 0:06:37.010 --> 0:06:40.370 a year in Altoona and you know, that's weren't exactly 0:06:40.410 --> 0:06:42.330 what you'd want them to be on the pitching side 0:06:42.350 --> 0:06:45.130 of things. But he was like, Hey, listen, like we 0:06:45.150 --> 0:06:47.000 want you to go out there in Arizona and opportunity 0:06:47.020 --> 0:06:48.560 to get some more innings under your belt after the 0:06:48.600 --> 0:06:51.420 injury and keep and keep going on this, on this, 0:06:51.480 --> 0:06:54.539 you know, this runway of, you know, tweaks we've made 0:06:54.560 --> 0:06:56.740 throughout the year. Like, Hey, let's keep, let's keep learning. 0:06:56.779 --> 0:06:59.040 Let's keep growing. And it's a great opportunity to do 0:06:59.080 --> 0:07:00.320 so against good competition out here. 0:07:01.480 --> 0:07:03.300 Just like, that's a good segue. Like you're facing some 0:07:03.320 --> 0:07:05.680 of the game's best prospects in Arizona. What's that been 0:07:05.720 --> 0:07:06.940 like early on for you? 0:07:08.339 --> 0:07:10.140 It's been good, man. It's been good. I feel like, uh, 0:07:10.520 --> 0:07:13.400 I feel like just in our normal slate of the season, 0:07:13.440 --> 0:07:15.140 we faced a lot of the game's top prospect that 0:07:15.200 --> 0:07:17.930 Eastern league has some pretty, pretty good juice. And then, um, 0:07:19.300 --> 0:07:20.980 you know, in the Sally league, we came up with 0:07:21.000 --> 0:07:25.380 KG and McGonigal and, um, I guess not the Sally league. 0:07:25.400 --> 0:07:27.060 Those guys were in the Midwest league, but in, in, 0:07:27.220 --> 0:07:29.940 in the, in a ball low way, you know, McGonigal 0:07:29.980 --> 0:07:31.880 and Clark and all those boys and then meeting them 0:07:31.900 --> 0:07:33.720 again in Erie. I feel like we've been playing the 0:07:33.760 --> 0:07:35.770 best of the best competition over the last few years. 0:07:36.270 --> 0:07:39.270 It's something that you want to always be doing. You know, 0:07:39.290 --> 0:07:40.510 I want to, I want to take on some of 0:07:40.530 --> 0:07:42.710 these young cats and spend some breaking balls to them 0:07:42.730 --> 0:07:45.190 and punch them out and feel, you know, say, Hey, listen, 0:07:45.210 --> 0:07:48.100 this old dog can learn a few new tricks over here. Um, 0:07:48.920 --> 0:07:51.280 But it's an honor to be a part of. You 0:07:51.320 --> 0:07:52.600 want to step on the field with the best, and 0:07:52.640 --> 0:07:56.640 you want to ultimately compete and beat them. So it's 0:07:56.660 --> 0:07:57.660 a great opportunity. 0:07:58.580 --> 0:08:00.940 Has anything changed with the pitch mix? Last time we 0:08:00.960 --> 0:08:03.640 talked to you, it was four-seam sinker, cutter, sweeper. You 0:08:03.660 --> 0:08:06.600 said you might be working on a curveball. Has that 0:08:06.640 --> 0:08:10.040 developed at all, or has the arsenal changed moving forward? 0:08:10.800 --> 0:08:13.740 I think what wound up actually happening was I banked 0:08:13.800 --> 0:08:16.190 a ton of reps this offseason, or last offseason, I 0:08:16.200 --> 0:08:20.170 should say, throwing sweepers to left-handed hitters. Um, it was 0:08:20.210 --> 0:08:22.410 a big focus of mine. My sweeper execution in 25 0:08:22.410 --> 0:08:25.300 versus lefties was nowhere near good enough, both in zone 0:08:25.510 --> 0:08:28.140 and for swing and miss. Um, and I think a 0:08:28.160 --> 0:08:32.280 lot of times like that visual, that visual is just different. Um, 0:08:32.440 --> 0:08:34.400 but what, what wound up happening was I came into 0:08:34.440 --> 0:08:36.460 this year with so many reps banked against lefties that 0:08:36.540 --> 0:08:38.660 over time, that sweeper just got a little bit more depthy. 0:08:39.440 --> 0:08:42.240 And I think it's, it wants to be that shape. 0:08:42.440 --> 0:08:44.719 Like that's that, that slurvy kind of shape is natural 0:08:44.760 --> 0:08:46.980 for me. So what wound up happening was I wound 0:08:47.020 --> 0:08:50.099 up just throwing that consistently and trusting that. And I 0:08:50.120 --> 0:08:52.679 got really good results with it this year, specifically compared 0:08:52.700 --> 0:08:56.290 to last year. Just my execution was way up with it. And, 0:08:56.470 --> 0:08:58.490 you know, I hit a realization point about halfway through 0:08:58.510 --> 0:09:01.610 the season and looking at my best pitches to left-handed hitters. 0:09:01.770 --> 0:09:03.960 A lot of them are sweepers. In this game, we 0:09:03.980 --> 0:09:06.900 like to say like, hey, you have to have platoon 0:09:06.940 --> 0:09:09.960 neutral here and platoon neutral there. I've been studying the 0:09:09.980 --> 0:09:12.840 game's best slider throwers and a lot of them still 0:09:12.860 --> 0:09:14.960 throw sliders to lefties. You know, your Matt Brashes, your 0:09:14.980 --> 0:09:19.880 Griffin Jacks, your Orion Kirkerings. These dudes are still mixing 50% 0:09:19.880 --> 0:09:24.420 to 60% sweeper versus left-handed hitters. And, you know, I 0:09:24.460 --> 0:09:26.530 would be honored if somebody put my slider in the 0:09:26.570 --> 0:09:28.790 same ballpark as those dudes. Those dudes can really spin 0:09:28.809 --> 0:09:30.870 the hell out of the ball. I hope that, you know, 0:09:30.970 --> 0:09:33.470 one day mine will be talked about in that same group. 0:09:33.550 --> 0:09:35.850 But the way that I attack with it and my 0:09:35.890 --> 0:09:37.929 confidence with it is like, hey, dude, like here it is, 0:09:38.210 --> 0:09:41.520 hit it. And then obviously, you know, on the numbers 0:09:41.540 --> 0:09:43.400 side of things, knowing that it has a little bit 0:09:43.440 --> 0:09:46.560 more depth, I can I can use the computer to go, OK, 0:09:47.080 --> 0:09:51.530 it's backing up my observation that it will play. And 0:09:51.570 --> 0:09:54.010 so I just really I up my usage. I got 0:09:54.030 --> 0:09:56.630 my usage there versus left handed bats. Hopefully there's no 0:09:56.670 --> 0:09:59.090 Cubs fans or Cubs players listening to this. They're going 0:09:59.110 --> 0:10:01.560 to they're going to. to steal my secrets into some AVs. 0:10:01.620 --> 0:10:03.800 I'll have to buzz a tower or two, but, um, 0:10:04.520 --> 0:10:06.140 but just, just throwing your best stuff is what it 0:10:06.179 --> 0:10:08.069 comes down to. I think we overcomplicate a lot in 0:10:08.090 --> 0:10:10.489 this game. We can add weapons until the cows come home. 0:10:11.150 --> 0:10:12.569 At the end of the day, I'm a relief pitcher. 0:10:12.610 --> 0:10:15.349 I'm out there for, you know, I want to be 0:10:15.390 --> 0:10:17.349 out there for nine to 12 outs or one to 0:10:17.390 --> 0:10:20.069 two outs. Whatever the hell we need is kind of 0:10:20.090 --> 0:10:23.940 what I want my role to be. But ultimately, you're 0:10:23.960 --> 0:10:26.520 not throwing five, six innings. So go out there and 0:10:26.540 --> 0:10:28.160 throw your best weapons. You know what I mean? That 0:10:28.200 --> 0:10:29.920 was definitely, you know, hit me in the face a 0:10:29.940 --> 0:10:33.700 little bit this year. And I think as soon as 0:10:33.740 --> 0:10:37.400 I started implementing that approach, along with a couple other tweaks, 0:10:38.090 --> 0:10:39.569 you know, I started to see the results follow. 0:10:40.760 --> 0:10:42.459 You don't have to worry about Cubs or Brewers or 0:10:42.500 --> 0:10:45.120 Cardinals fans listening. We black out our pot in those markets, 0:10:45.179 --> 0:10:46.319 so you don't have to worry. 0:10:46.620 --> 0:10:50.380 Let's go. Let's go. You mentioned it earlier. 0:10:50.400 --> 0:10:54.160 With the uncertainty of the 2027 season looming, what is 0:10:54.200 --> 0:10:57.810 something that you hope to accomplish this fall? Going into 0:10:57.850 --> 0:11:00.290 spring training, whether that's minor league spring training next spring 0:11:00.309 --> 0:11:02.929 or whatever, what do you hope that you accomplish in 0:11:02.990 --> 0:11:06.010 Arizona this next month or so? 0:11:07.429 --> 0:11:10.290 Efficiency down the mound. I think just efficiency in general. 0:11:10.840 --> 0:11:12.480 I've been messing around a little bit with a split. 0:11:12.520 --> 0:11:13.920 I know I just talked a whole lot about, we 0:11:13.960 --> 0:11:16.040 can add weapons till the cows come home, but I 0:11:16.100 --> 0:11:19.869 added another weapon. I've been working a little bit on 0:11:19.910 --> 0:11:23.170 a split just to try to, you know, give myself 0:11:23.210 --> 0:11:27.310 another weapon versus lefties. I feel really confident in my 0:11:27.370 --> 0:11:31.500 right-handed approach. You know, I think familiarizing myself with the 0:11:31.540 --> 0:11:33.620 big league baseball, seeing how my stuff plays and then 0:11:34.020 --> 0:11:37.179 seeing where we need to make adjustments is one thing 0:11:37.220 --> 0:11:40.260 I'm looking, I'm looking to improve, but Efficiency down the 0:11:40.280 --> 0:11:43.080 mountain is the biggest thing. I went down to Pirate 0:11:43.100 --> 0:11:48.800 City after the year and had a biomechanical bullpen session 0:11:48.880 --> 0:11:53.850 kind of analysis. And I think there's some cleaning up 0:11:53.900 --> 0:11:55.830 we can do with the lower half. I can get 0:11:55.850 --> 0:11:58.530 a little bit more out of the ground. My hand 0:11:58.550 --> 0:12:00.650 speed is really good. I need to learn how to 0:12:00.750 --> 0:12:02.610 use the ground a little bit better. I do kind 0:12:02.630 --> 0:12:04.990 of a poor job with my back leg. And getting 0:12:05.030 --> 0:12:07.250 a chance to work with Davey, who I worked with 0:12:07.270 --> 0:12:09.679 the whole year in AA, gives me a great opportunity 0:12:09.700 --> 0:12:12.700 to just continue to dive into some of the lower 0:12:12.740 --> 0:12:15.360 half stuff. And that's not to say you're going out 0:12:15.380 --> 0:12:17.219 to the mound, you know, thinking about what your legs 0:12:17.260 --> 0:12:19.740 are doing. We're just repping drills and then getting game 0:12:19.780 --> 0:12:23.210 opportunity to go see how it's manifesting itself on the 0:12:23.230 --> 0:12:27.610 mound in a game with live bullets flying. I think 0:12:27.690 --> 0:12:30.550 also just like I mentioned before, getting some reps with 0:12:30.570 --> 0:12:34.590 that splitter, cleaning up our attack, and trying to throw missiles. 0:12:34.630 --> 0:12:35.989 I mean, let's be real. We're all trying to throw 0:12:36.030 --> 0:12:38.800 flames nowadays. Like, If you ain't, if you ain't there, 0:12:38.880 --> 0:12:41.829 the arms race is in full effect. It's not something 0:12:41.870 --> 0:12:46.330 that is the biggest driver of, you know, of conversation 0:12:46.450 --> 0:12:49.910 and development in my career. Um, ultimately I got to 0:12:49.929 --> 0:12:53.410 put my stamp on it, but Hey man, we, the bigger, 0:12:53.770 --> 0:12:55.500 we could all use a bigger gun. Everybody wants a 0:12:55.540 --> 0:12:59.720 bigger gun. So, you know, that's, that's definitely something that's, that's, uh, 0:12:59.780 --> 0:13:01.040 being worked on as well every day. 0:13:01.880 --> 0:13:04.940 Mike, it's always a pleasure talking to you. Uh, good luck, 0:13:05.020 --> 0:13:07.439 the rest of the Arizona fall league and, Hoping to 0:13:07.480 --> 0:13:08.839 see you in Pittsburgh next year, man. 0:13:08.860 --> 0:13:12.220 Hey, me too, brothers. Thank you guys for having me on. 0:13:12.260 --> 0:13:14.770 It's always an honor talking to you guys. Go Bucs 0:13:15.210 --> 0:13:19.209 and enjoy the meetings with Xander and BC. Appreciate it, man. 0:13:19.290 --> 0:13:19.630 Thank you.