Speaker 1: What's that at the bed? It's spooky and gooky. I'm
Speaker 1: really sure it's dead. It's coming, it's way.
Speaker 2: Wait a minute, help, I'm Goad.
Speaker 3: Yrons dresss Hey boo, it's me ros Dress Flas.
Speaker 1: I'm having a good day, you know, despite the black
Speaker 1: mirror episode that we're living in. It's okay to have
Speaker 1: happy moments and to embrace those while in this mess
Speaker 1: of a world we're living in. I'm having a good
Speaker 1: one today, and I hope you are too. I just
Speaker 1: got off the phone with an actor that I absolutely love,
Speaker 1: name Harvey Gien, who you might know from what we
Speaker 1: do in The Shadows, which is a TV show I adore.
Speaker 1: He plays Guillermot and he is going to be on
Speaker 1: the show next week. And boy does Harvey bring it
Speaker 1: with the stories, so look out for that. Today is
Speaker 1: a listener episode, which I love, and I would love
Speaker 1: for you to be on a listener show if you
Speaker 1: got a ghost story, so as always, please email me
Speaker 1: at ghosted by Roz at gmail dot com and write
Speaker 1: listener episode in the subject line. I love Listener episodes
Speaker 1: and I can't wait to record next month's soon, So
Speaker 1: get those stories to me, or if you would like
Speaker 1: for me to read your ghost story on the show.
Speaker 1: You can put it in the Facebook group ghosted by
Speaker 1: Roz dres Flees and I was actually just looking through
Speaker 1: the Facebook group and a lot going on in there.
Speaker 1: This one right here came from Jessica. Listen to this
Speaker 1: ghost story, Jessica says. I'm brand new to this group
Speaker 1: and to the podcast. Welcome Jessica. I absolutely love it,
Speaker 1: especially as a person who's grown up having had multiple
Speaker 1: experiences with the afterlife. I have so many stories, but
Speaker 1: this one creeps me out to this day. I was
Speaker 1: about ten years old and my mother, brother and I
Speaker 1: were staying with my grandparents at the time after my
Speaker 1: parents got divorced. My grandmother used to run like an
Speaker 1: in home hospice care for people at the end stages
Speaker 1: of life who couldn't afford actual facilities. Side note, I
Speaker 1: have no clue how legit this business model was, but
Speaker 1: I was also ten and didn't know any better. Okay,
Speaker 1: that being said, we had a lot of people pass
Speaker 1: on in that house. Now you could tell there were
Speaker 1: multiple energies in that house, and most of them were
Speaker 1: positive and even playful. There were always small instances of activity,
Speaker 1: like the rocking chair moving when no one was sitting
Speaker 1: in it. Classic the old school saloon. Doors to the
Speaker 1: bar would start swinging like crazy, small things moving on
Speaker 1: their own, things out of nature, and honestly, no one
Speaker 1: really paid any attention to it. However, I did feel
Speaker 1: at least one negative energy in that house, almost like
Speaker 1: a heavy fog washing over everything. In one instance, I
Speaker 1: was laying in bed, completely awake when I felt that
Speaker 1: negative feeling wash over the room, and almost instantaneously felt
Speaker 1: something sit on the end of my bed, and then
Speaker 1: a weight on top of me. A wave of coldness
Speaker 1: rushed through my body and I was unable to move.
Speaker 1: It lasted like that for at least a minute, and
Speaker 1: afterwards I begged the spirit to leave me alone. I
Speaker 1: later found out that a man had died in that
Speaker 1: bedroom and was bitter until the end. I do think
Speaker 1: his spirit was lingering and probably just angry that someone
Speaker 1: was in his space. I still felt his energy after
Speaker 1: that instance, but never experienced anything else with him. Also,
Speaker 1: on a different night, while lying on the same bed,
Speaker 1: I was facing the door and could see into the
Speaker 1: hallway and watched a full set of legs run past,
Speaker 1: no top half, just a pair of pasty ass legs.
Speaker 1: That one was creepy but did not feel menacing. What
Speaker 1: thank you so much for sending me that. And I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be thinking about pasty ass legs running through my
Speaker 1: hallway tonight. Thank you. Okay, Today I had the honor
Speaker 1: of speaking with four listeners and here they are on
Speaker 1: with the show. Hello, Kate, how are you good?
Speaker 2: How are you ross so good?
Speaker 1: Where are you?
Speaker 2: I am in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania.
Speaker 1: Ooh, well, I was looking at the email you sent me,
Speaker 1: and it sounds like you've had a lot of ghosty experiences.
Speaker 2: I do, and I've recently just come to terms with
Speaker 2: the fact that they all were, in fact paranormal, because
Speaker 2: I just sort of kind of was like, oh no,
Speaker 2: it's it's fine, that's not a thing.
Speaker 1: Oh really, you're like the opposite of me. Just anything,
Speaker 1: I'm like that was a ghost moving on. Well, so
Speaker 1: what are what are some of your stories? What's like
Speaker 1: the first thing that happened?
Speaker 2: So I think the well, first of all, like my
Speaker 2: like draw to the paranormal was the fact that three
Speaker 2: of my grandparents died within fifteen minutes of each other
Speaker 2: on Halloween in nineteen ninety five.
Speaker 1: That is more than a coincidence.
Speaker 2: Right, So I've kind of just started like a quest
Speaker 2: to find them, and instead of finding them, I have
Speaker 2: literally found I think a little bit of everything else.
Speaker 1: Really, So what do you mean you like actually sought
Speaker 1: out contacting them?
Speaker 2: No, but like I have this extremely morbid curiosity with
Speaker 2: the Ouiji board. In fact, I collect them, but and
Speaker 2: I like keep them in my house, like I display them,
Speaker 2: I like shadow box them and everything, but I don't
Speaker 2: actually use them, like I'm too terrified to use them.
Speaker 1: Well, how did so?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 1: That's what I did? And then I still had a
Speaker 1: ghost even though I didn't use it, or I had
Speaker 1: some kind of energy. Has that happened to you?
Speaker 2: No, So every board that I have has either been
Speaker 2: custom made or like the classic one that I've literally
Speaker 2: taken out of the box.
Speaker 1: And unwrapped myself, got it, Okay.
Speaker 2: The only one that has had any sort of activity,
Speaker 2: like even remotely attached to it is the one that
Speaker 2: I got in a witch shop in Gettysburg. Like I
Speaker 2: should have known, but I still needed the board.
Speaker 1: Had it been used.
Speaker 2: I unboxed it. But that doesn't mean that somebody might
Speaker 2: not have returned it. I don't. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I never even think about that. You
Speaker 1: could just like use a Ouiji board, get some kind
Speaker 1: of demon up there, and then be like, yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna return it. I want my fifteen bucks back or
Speaker 1: whatever they originally bought it for.
Speaker 2: Right right, I'm just like, oh, okay, maybe the witch
Speaker 2: shopping Kittiesburg wasn't the best location, but we have it now.
Speaker 1: Well, what's your story You went to Sleepy Hollow and
Speaker 1: what was going on there?
Speaker 2: Yes, So back when I was like nineteen twenty, my
Speaker 2: friends just messaged me one day. They're like, hey, we're
Speaker 2: gonna go to Sleepy Hollow Cemetery and Sleepy Hollow, New York.
Speaker 2: And I was like, like the Sleepy Hollow and they
Speaker 2: were like yeah, And I was like, I'm gonna hop
Speaker 2: in this car and we're gonna road trip. So we
Speaker 2: get to the cemetery and we get out and it's
Speaker 2: this huge, like beautiful, god thick cemetery and we're just
Speaker 2: walking around looking at the different headstones and the mausoleums,
Speaker 2: and my friend he keeps asking me, He's like, do
Speaker 2: you feel okay? I'm like, yeah, I'm fine. What's wrong
Speaker 2: with you, and he's like, no, really, are you fine?
Speaker 2: I'm like I'm great. Why And this just continues the
Speaker 2: entire time we're walking around. So at the end, when
Speaker 2: we decided we're gonna like load up and go find
Speaker 2: something to eat, we stop in front of the Sleepy
Speaker 2: House cemetery sign and we take pictures and didn't think
Speaker 2: of anything.
Speaker 4: All well and good.
Speaker 2: So after dinner, my friend asked me a final time,
Speaker 2: like do you feel okay? I'm like, I am fine.
Speaker 2: Why do you keep asking me this? And he's like,
Speaker 2: I didn't want to freak you out, but there was
Speaker 2: this girl following you around the cemetery.
Speaker 1: What yeah?
Speaker 2: And I was like, m you couldn't have told me
Speaker 2: that before I like got in the car. Uh so
Speaker 2: I could say, like, you're not allowed to follow me home.
Speaker 2: He's like, well, I didn't.
Speaker 4: I didn't think about it.
Speaker 2: Then he's like I was just freaking out, and I
Speaker 2: was like, uh yeah, okay, Now.
Speaker 1: Why did your friend think that she was following you?
Speaker 2: Because like every time that he would look over, like
Speaker 2: this girl would just be standing behind me, and that's
Speaker 2: all he would tell me. He wouldn't tell me what
Speaker 2: she looked like. He wouldn't tell me anything else, and
Speaker 2: at first like he's kind of a drama king, and
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, okay, whatever. So we head back to
Speaker 2: his apartment in Pennsylvania and I'm sleeping in their living room.
Speaker 2: They have like a trundle bed, and I have to
Speaker 2: sleep with the TV on. I've had to do that
Speaker 2: my entire life because if the TV's on that they
Speaker 2: can get you. Obviously that is very wrong.
Speaker 1: Well, you know what's crazy is that some some theories
Speaker 1: believe that, you know, electronics like that being by you
Speaker 1: at nighttime are releasing electromagnetic frequencies which can fuel a
Speaker 1: ghost and actually do the opposite.
Speaker 2: So I'm sleeping and somewhere at like three o'clock I
Speaker 2: pop open. I'm like looking at the ceiling and I'm
Speaker 2: like something, he's in this room and I'm like, no, no, mmm,
Speaker 2: he just freaked you out. It's fine. So as soon
Speaker 2: as I think that, the TV goes to static and
Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, you must have just rolled rolled over
Speaker 2: on the remote. Everything is fine. And then I look
Speaker 2: in the corner and everything is not fine, and there
Speaker 2: is something that looks like Samara looking at me. As
Speaker 2: I'm laying in this living room. Yeah, yep, yeah, but
Speaker 2: it wasn't It was like Victorian nights sleep, not like
Speaker 2: not like a Samara. But like, I don't know, I
Speaker 2: don't know how to describe her. I don't like her.
Speaker 2: We're not friends.
Speaker 1: So did she have hair covering her face?
Speaker 2: She did? She did, but it was part of just
Speaker 2: enough that I could see her eyes looking at me.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, So what did you do?
Speaker 2: So I couldn't scream? I just literally just like broke
Speaker 2: it down. I'm like, well, this is happening, So we're
Speaker 2: just going to close our eyes and when we open them,
Speaker 2: she will be gone. And that's what happened. So I
Speaker 2: literally gathered all of my belongings within my arm's reach.
Speaker 2: I did not say anything to anybody, and I just left.
Speaker 2: I got in my car at three thirty am, and
Speaker 2: I just I just booked it the hour drive home
Speaker 2: to my house. Now I live in a rural area,
Speaker 2: so when I got home, like I'm just sitting in
Speaker 2: my driveway and there's trees everywhere, and I'm just like, Okay,
Speaker 2: you just have to get to the door. You just
Speaker 2: have to get to the door, and everything's going to
Speaker 2: be great. So I get up and I go in
Speaker 2: and everything's cool for a little while. So we're having
Speaker 2: a party one night, and like, my house was always
Speaker 2: the house that everybody came to hang out at hang
Speaker 2: out at. And it got really hot in my parents' house.
Speaker 2: So I went downstairs to change into shorts. And the
Speaker 2: way that my room was set up is I was
Speaker 2: in the basement. I had like a suite in the basement.
Speaker 2: There was like a living room to your left and
Speaker 2: my bedroom to the right. So I was going into
Speaker 2: my bedroom and I look over and I see an
Speaker 2: outline of a person that's darker than the shadow that's
Speaker 2: already in the room.
Speaker 1: Was it a girl?
Speaker 2: It was about her height, yes, yeah, okay, So I
Speaker 2: look at I look in the room, and I'm like,
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna put some shorts on. I'm gonna go upstairs,
Speaker 2: and I'm just gonna let you whatever you need to
Speaker 2: do is fine. So that's exactly what I did. I
Speaker 2: went in, I put my shorts on it, and I
Speaker 2: went upstairs. So then the name calling started, and like
Speaker 2: I would be in my in my closet, which was
Speaker 2: a huge walk in closet, and i'd hear first it
Speaker 2: started off with somebody like whisper, like right right behind
Speaker 2: my ear my name. We'd be like I'd be like, yo,
Speaker 2: I don't want to do this anymore. And then it
Speaker 2: started to mimic my mom, and I like fly up
Speaker 2: the steps and be like, yeah, Mom, what do you
Speaker 2: need And she's like nothing, I didn't call you. And
Speaker 2: I was like, all right, stop messing with me, and
Speaker 2: she's like, I swear I didn't call you, so okay.
Speaker 2: Then then the door started and my and this is
Speaker 2: where my mom starts to believe me now, because first
Speaker 2: it just started with my bedroom door, Like the handle
Speaker 2: on my bedroom door would giggle while I was sleeping
Speaker 2: at night, and I had like these little bells like
Speaker 2: that hung off my door and they would jingle too,
Speaker 2: and I would just be like, Okay, it's fine, everything
Speaker 2: is fine. This is great. And then i'd be at
Speaker 2: work and my mom would message me and she's like
Speaker 2: do not feel good? Like no, I'm fine. Why And
Speaker 2: she's like why did you come home? And I'm like, Mom,
Speaker 2: I'm at work, what do you mean why did I
Speaker 2: come home? She's like, well, I heard the front door
Speaker 2: open and closed, and then I heard your bedroom door
Speaker 2: open and closed. She said, I heard the bells. She's like,
Speaker 2: you didn't come home to change or anything. I'm like, no,
Speaker 2: I've been at work all day. And she's like, oh okay,
Speaker 2: so yeah what yeah?
Speaker 1: Now this you think is one because of your trip
Speaker 1: to the cemetery.
Speaker 2: I think this is she's attached to me because she
Speaker 2: she followed me to my new house so to like
Speaker 2: I would hear.
Speaker 1: What now, how long has this gone on for it?
Speaker 1: Like what how long were you at your parents' house
Speaker 1: that it was happening.
Speaker 2: I am twenty eight now, and I left about three
Speaker 2: years ago, so twenty five, so it's been I was
Speaker 2: like twenty when this all started, So it's been eight years.
Speaker 1: He's still there.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I I've been trying to get rid of
Speaker 2: her recently with sage and stuff, but every time I sage,
Speaker 2: things just get worse or at again.
Speaker 1: God, Caitlin, this is terrible.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I start, she's now she has opened the
Speaker 2: door to in my bedroom and like paced around. This
Speaker 2: is when I'm still at my parents' house and like
Speaker 2: paced around my bed and I like scooched over to
Speaker 2: like give somebody the space to lay down because it
Speaker 2: wasn't abnormal for my friends to just come in at
Speaker 2: three am if they had a fight with their pants
Speaker 2: or something like that. And then I realized that there
Speaker 2: was nobody in the room, and that you know, like
Speaker 2: I heard the door slide across the carpet. I heard,
Speaker 2: I heard everything. I was awake. It was not sleep paralysis.
Speaker 2: It was nothing. And that's a thing that happened. And wow, Okay,
Speaker 2: So since we've moved, there's only one room in my
Speaker 2: house that I don't like. It's in the basement again,
Speaker 2: and it's completely finished. It's not scary, and I call
Speaker 2: it the Scary Room or the demon room because the
Speaker 2: ceiling might feeling comfortable in. And when we first got
Speaker 2: our dog, Lucifer, he I was home from work one
Speaker 2: day and he was laying on the back of the
Speaker 2: couch and all of a sudden, I literally watched him
Speaker 2: go from content and I was just loving on him,
Speaker 2: a patineum to every single hair on his body, just
Speaker 2: staring up to snarl, growling with teeth and literally like
Speaker 2: chase something back into the room that I couldn't see.
Speaker 2: And he got to the doorway and he barked a
Speaker 2: couple more times, and he just walked back to me
Speaker 2: like nothing was wrong.
Speaker 1: Well, hey, it's nice to have the guard dog that
Speaker 1: can scare her way, right.
Speaker 2: And I think Voodoo Caesar too, because Voodoo has just
Speaker 2: started acting up as well. Like I'll hear the closet
Speaker 2: doors rattle in Voodoo's room because yes, my my dog's
Speaker 2: yeah okay and yeah, and she doesn't like him either,
Speaker 2: Like the door have started to rattle in my closet,
Speaker 2: Like at my closet when we're sleeping, I'm starting to
Speaker 2: hear like women screaming in my house. There's been three
Speaker 2: knocks on the basement door that's closed to go down
Speaker 2: to the basement on the opposite side as I'm leaving
Speaker 2: the house.
Speaker 1: Oh, that's not good.
Speaker 2: And last week I woke up and all the water
Speaker 2: in the house was turned.
Speaker 1: On and you, I think I cut you off, but
Speaker 1: you were saying something about your boyfriend.
Speaker 2: Yes, he doesn't believe me, and true classic horror movie.
Speaker 2: He's like, this is stupid. You're making it all up.
Speaker 2: He's like I, and he's witnessed some things too, especially
Speaker 2: last week with the water and before like we before
Speaker 2: we moved the final night in my parents' house, we
Speaker 2: were just packing things up and getting things ready. And
Speaker 2: we were sitting on my in my living room and
Speaker 2: we have like this like front porch, and we live
Speaker 2: in a rural My parents live in a rural area.
Speaker 2: Nobody has any kids, nobody has any grandkids. I shit,
Speaker 2: you not. I heard somebody. We heard a little girl
Speaker 2: giggle and call for mommy, and.
Speaker 1: He heard your boyfriend heard it too.
Speaker 2: He heard it. He acknowledged it, and he's like, I'm
Speaker 2: sure it's just a kid in the neighborhood. I'm sure.
Speaker 2: I'm like, there's no kids. There's none.
Speaker 1: So has she followed you to places that are not
Speaker 1: your house?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 1: Have you ever encountered her other places?
Speaker 2: I haven't, no other places has she? I mean she
Speaker 2: might like follow me and I just don't know it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: because I'm one of those people that I sense and
Speaker 2: hear things and like kind of see things in my mind,
Speaker 2: but I don't like see things outright. Except for that
Speaker 2: the first time she made her presence out, I've never
Speaker 2: seen her physically again.
Speaker 1: Now here's if this is a movie, I would guess
Speaker 1: that the way that the relationship would end would be
Speaker 1: you go back to the cemetery. What do you think
Speaker 1: about that.
Speaker 2: I've thought about it, but at the same time, like,
Speaker 2: I don't I'm not trying to pick up more.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, she might have more friends. She's like, girl,
Speaker 1: you gotta come with me. It's fun over here. We
Speaker 1: can mess with this poor woman. Yeah, I get it.
Speaker 1: That's terrifying. Now did you ever talk to that friend
Speaker 1: about this that you first went to the cemetery with?
Speaker 2: Yeah, he and I are don't talk as much anymore,
Speaker 2: but we're still friends and he doesn't know like half
Speaker 2: of the story at this point. But I, yeah, I had.
Speaker 1: What about that first night when you left in the
Speaker 1: middle of the night, what did you tell I saw him?
Speaker 2: Why I left? And I was like, I don't know
Speaker 2: if it stayed with you or it came with me,
Speaker 2: But if it did, congratulations, you're the proud owner of
Speaker 2: a very scary presence in your house.
Speaker 1: Well did he did he report anything?
Speaker 2: Well? He his apartment was haunted before we went, so
Speaker 2: I don't know if it was her, if it was
Speaker 2: whatever was in his apartment, So god it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Now did you did you? You never asked him
Speaker 1: what the ghosts look like in the cemetery?
Speaker 2: Right, No, we did. Actually, I was like, let's talk
Speaker 2: about this. Did she look like this? And he was
Speaker 2: like absolutely, And I was like, great.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, this is terrifying. So what do you
Speaker 1: think you're going to do?
Speaker 2: So I think I'm going to start working on like
Speaker 2: on my like spiritual communication skills. I'm not as scared
Speaker 2: of like a pendulum and a pendulum board with not
Speaker 2: me holding it because I think that people like whether
Speaker 2: you try to move it or not, you do and
Speaker 2: like a hook. So I think I'm going to start
Speaker 2: trying to work on that. I've just started like tarot
Speaker 2: car reading and that kind of stuff. So I'm going
Speaker 2: to try and like see if I can connect with
Speaker 2: this thing and if I can't, like get her to
Speaker 2: a get out of my space, and if not, we'll
Speaker 2: just continue to live in harmony.
Speaker 3: I guess, hello, pony, you're in La. I am in La, Yes,
Speaker 3: So what's going on? You live in a haunted house?
Speaker 4: I don't anymore.
Speaker 5: I moved out about five years ago, but I lived
Speaker 5: in it for about six years.
Speaker 1: Really and what happened there, well, a lot of stuff.
Speaker 1: What part of LA is this?
Speaker 5: So it's in an area of LA called Arlington Heights,
Speaker 5: which is kind of like mid city like Pico Crunshaw area,
Speaker 5: got it? Do you know where that nightclub? The catch
Speaker 5: is Jewels Catch Yes, Jewels Catch one. So that was
Speaker 5: right at the end of my street.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, okay, Yeah.
Speaker 5: So moved in around Christmas two thousand nine. Things were fine.
Speaker 5: We were there for a couple of months, nothing seemed
Speaker 5: to happen, And in February of that next year, the
Speaker 5: first thing happened. We had some friends over and kind
Speaker 5: of we're talking about the house and you know how
Speaker 5: we got into it, and and when we've found the house,
Speaker 5: we've we just found it on Craigslist and it's this
Speaker 5: beautiful nineteen oh five craftsmen completely restored. A husband and
Speaker 5: wife were renting it out. And when we were looking
Speaker 5: at the house, I just kind of playfully asked the wife,
Speaker 5: so is it haunted? And her immediate response, like deadpan,
Speaker 5: was oh no, I've staged it twice. It should be okay.
Speaker 1: Now, oh God, Actually, like City La, there are so
Speaker 1: many gorgeous old craftsmen out there.
Speaker 4: Yes, and this was like amazing, amazing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have a lot of friends that live over there,
Speaker 1: and I always ask as well, as this place haunted?
Speaker 1: And I have not encountered any myself yet, but they
Speaker 1: I have. I can only imagine that a lot of
Speaker 1: them are.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Okay, so she tried to sage it, right, Okay, right.
Speaker 5: So uh so okay, moved in. Everything was cool. We
Speaker 5: had some friends over. We were kind of talking about
Speaker 5: the house. I you know, that kind of became an anecdote, like,
Speaker 5: you know, telling the story of how we found the
Speaker 5: house and what she said, and you know, because it
Speaker 5: was funny and and I'm not somebody that like goes
Speaker 5: looking for this kind of stuff. But I'm also not
Speaker 5: somebody who is like, you know, pooh poo's it. Immediately
Speaker 5: it's like, I'm open to this. I believe this happens.
Speaker 1: And did you believe it before this incident?
Speaker 4: I did, Yeah, I did, but I didn't.
Speaker 5: I never got a weird vibe being in the house ever, Like,
Speaker 5: even after stuff started happening, I never felt scared or like,
Speaker 5: oh I'm not alone or nothing like that.
Speaker 4: Everything.
Speaker 5: The only time it was weird was when stuff was
Speaker 5: actually happening, okay, and then it would just go back
Speaker 5: to feeling normal. But we moved in, We had some
Speaker 5: friends over, we were talking about it. They left, and
Speaker 5: then you know, my partner and I we went to bed,
Speaker 5: and at about four four point thirty in the morning,
Speaker 5: we both were woken up by just some crazy loud noise.
Speaker 5: And what it was is that the TV downstairs had
Speaker 5: turned on, just on its own, but not at a
Speaker 5: volume that we would ever watch it. It was so loud
Speaker 5: that it sounded like it was in our bedroom.
Speaker 1: Oh god. And so did you think it was a
Speaker 1: break in or something?
Speaker 5: I know, we just were like, wow, the TV's on, Like,
Speaker 5: that's strange and so and we had two dogs at
Speaker 5: the time, and so they they weren't freaking out. So yeah,
Speaker 5: I mean, if someone had broken in, there would have
Speaker 5: been like total chaos. But so he just went downstairs
Speaker 5: and turned it off and then came back upstairs, and
Speaker 5: I remember he said, God, I wonder if this is
Speaker 5: the start of the haunting.
Speaker 1: Oh God, so perfect and.
Speaker 5: Exactly exactly yeah, And so we just kind of were like, huh,
Speaker 5: that's funny, and then just went to sleep.
Speaker 4: And then.
Speaker 5: A couple other things happened. I mean, there were like
Speaker 5: a couple like pretty intense things that happened. None of
Speaker 5: them really scared me, except I had two that really
Speaker 5: really scared me, Like.
Speaker 1: What were the things that didn't scare you?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 5: So I had a friend over. He was staying with
Speaker 5: us for a couple of days, and we were, you know,
Speaker 5: day drinking, and then we decided we were just going
Speaker 5: to take a nap and then get up and go
Speaker 5: to dinner. And so he into our guest room. I
Speaker 5: went into our bedroom, and my partner at the time,
Speaker 5: he was at work, so it was just, uh, send
Speaker 5: the dogs and so we you know, just took our
Speaker 5: naps and woke up, and then I went downstairs and
Speaker 5: he was already downstairs, and he said, why did you
Speaker 5: come into the bedroom when I you know, And I
Speaker 5: was like, I didn't come into the bedroom and he said, yeah,
Speaker 5: you came in when I was asleep.
Speaker 4: He said, I it woke me up.
Speaker 5: And I pretended to be asleep because I didn't want
Speaker 5: you to bother me. And he said, but you you
Speaker 5: walked across the room and got and went into the
Speaker 5: closet and I said, no, I.
Speaker 1: Didn't went into the closet.
Speaker 5: Yeah, like open the closet door and like you know,
Speaker 5: was rustling around in the closet and I said, no,
Speaker 5: that wasn't me. And we're the only two people here,
Speaker 5: so I don't know what to help you.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I love how you say it. This
Speaker 1: didn't scare you, right.
Speaker 4: He was scared.
Speaker 5: So uh, you know, like nothing really had happened after that,
Speaker 5: and then like about maybe SIXI ish months later, in decided,
Speaker 5: you know, when I was preparing to talk to you,
Speaker 5: I found an old email that I sent to a
Speaker 5: friend that kind of had a breakdown of dates and
Speaker 5: what happened.
Speaker 4: So it really was really helpful.
Speaker 5: So so around so I noticed a pattern too. It
Speaker 5: was like stuff would happen like in clusters, like two
Speaker 5: or three days at a time, and then like nothing
Speaker 5: for a couple of months, and then it would be
Speaker 5: another cluster of two or three days of stuff happening.
Speaker 5: And it was really strange. But so nothing happened for
Speaker 5: like six or seven months, and then like December of
Speaker 5: that next year. Uh, we were home one night and
Speaker 5: it was just one of those rare nights. It was
Speaker 5: really quiet, like no TV was on, no music or anything.
Speaker 5: I was working on my laptop on the couch. My
Speaker 5: partner was just kind of snoozing next to me. The
Speaker 5: dogs were asleep in front of the fireplace. And just
Speaker 5: out of nowhere, like there were footsteps across the master bedroom,
Speaker 5: which was directly above the living room, like heavy booted,
Speaker 5: like work boot footsteps. Like it was definitely like a
Speaker 5: man vibe, and it just like it's like I could
Speaker 5: tell that it walked from where our bed was into
Speaker 5: the closet in the bedroom, and it just like it
Speaker 5: that was kind of freaky, and it was it was
Speaker 5: even freakier because one of our dogs just woke up
Speaker 5: right away and like looked up at the ceiling, like
Speaker 5: what was that?
Speaker 1: So that was that that was the same room that
Speaker 1: your friend was sleeping in.
Speaker 5: No, he was in the guest room. I was in
Speaker 5: the bedroom. So there were definitely hot spots in this house. Yeah,
Speaker 5: Like upstairs was a definite hot spot. Like upstairs, we
Speaker 5: had three bedroom or we had three rooms. There were
Speaker 5: two there was a master bedroom, a guest room, and
Speaker 5: then a room that was used as my partner's office,
Speaker 5: and so there was just all the activity that happened
Speaker 5: really was kind of in that area, and then there
Speaker 5: was another area downstairs that kind of the way the
Speaker 5: house was set up. It's like if you walked into
Speaker 5: the kitchen from the entry way, you were basically walking
Speaker 5: underneath the stairs, got it and there was a lot
Speaker 5: of like activity in that space too. So yeah, like
Speaker 5: there was the footsteps. And then a couple days later,
Speaker 5: I got a call at work from my partner and
Speaker 5: he said, Hey, have you been home. I was like, no,
Speaker 5: I'm at work. You know what's going on? He said,
Speaker 5: because I just got home and all of the dogs
Speaker 5: are locked in the bathroom upstairs.
Speaker 1: What Yeah, Oh my god.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: It was crazy, and like I kind of tried to
Speaker 5: when I was looking at, like looking back at all
Speaker 5: of this, I was trying to like connect the dots
Speaker 5: in a way of like it seemed like it was
Speaker 5: almost like a weird call and response type thing where like,
Speaker 5: like the first thing happened after I was talking about
Speaker 5: it with people, Like it was almost like, oh, Okay,
Speaker 5: you're going to talk about it, so I'm going to
Speaker 5: show you what's really happening. And then the set, like
Speaker 5: the footsteps thing happened.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 5: So, my partner and I had two dogs together, but
Speaker 5: he also had a dog that he shared custody with
Speaker 5: with his ex wife, and so we would fly that
Speaker 5: dog from New York to LA every year.
Speaker 4: For six months.
Speaker 5: I know, I know he was worth a great dog,
Speaker 5: and so he like the dogs getting locked into the bathroom.
Speaker 5: That happened like just a couple of days after he'd
Speaker 5: gotten there, so it was almost like, Okay, there's a
Speaker 5: new energy in the house. I have to kind of
Speaker 5: like show them whose boss?
Speaker 1: And oh wow. It was crazy was that like they
Speaker 1: the dogs were in the bathroom. The bathroom was the
Speaker 1: door was locked. You couldn't get in it.
Speaker 4: It's sorry, it wasn't locked. I shouldn't say locked.
Speaker 5: It was closed, but it was like one of those
Speaker 5: like I mean, it was an old craftsman so it
Speaker 5: wasn't like a door that easily closed.
Speaker 4: You had to turn the handle to close it totally.
Speaker 5: So it was like, okay, how did you wrangle three
Speaker 5: dogs into his bath?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: And they were big dogs, they weren't small.
Speaker 5: So yeah, so that happened, and then things were quiet
Speaker 5: for a while, about a month or so. A lot
Speaker 5: of stuff, like I'd forgotten some stuff happened until I
Speaker 5: found this email to a friend, and it was like
Speaker 5: I'd forgotten that one of our dogs specifically seemed to
Speaker 5: be like really affected by this, like he was very
Speaker 5: like aware of like what was happening, Like he would
Speaker 5: wake us up at night. He'd be pacing and staring
Speaker 5: and like he'd almost be like like you couldn't get
Speaker 5: him out of this like space that you know. We
Speaker 5: would call his name and like he just would respond
Speaker 5: to us and it would just be like this weird
Speaker 5: little trance, like he'd stare in the closet specifically, like
Speaker 5: in our bedroom. There was something happening in that closet
Speaker 5: that he just didn't really like, Wow, yeah it was
Speaker 5: not it was it was crazy. But then I think
Speaker 5: like around like the end of January, we had some
Speaker 5: friends over for dinner, and of course we were talking about it,
Speaker 5: and everybody left, we went up and went to bed,
Speaker 5: and so the street that we were on a lot
Speaker 5: of people parked on that street when they would go
Speaker 5: to the Catch, and you know, they would like pre
Speaker 5: game and stuff and it was no big deal like whatever,
Speaker 5: but sometimes they'd get a little rowdy and loud.
Speaker 4: And so when we were.
Speaker 5: Going to bed, it was probably around midnight, and so
Speaker 5: there were some people out on the street kind of
Speaker 5: like just getting to the club and they were being
Speaker 5: a little bit loud, and I just whatever, I just
Speaker 5: fell asleep and then I woke up a little bit
Speaker 5: later to a noise and I thought it was the
Speaker 5: same people. I thought that I had just kind of
Speaker 5: drifted off for a few minutes and then woke up,
Speaker 5: But it was like four hours later, and what I
Speaker 5: actually was waking up to was the in my partner's office,
Speaker 5: he had his computer linked up to like big speakers
Speaker 5: for like you know, he would produce music and stuff,
Speaker 5: and his iTunes turned on and started like playing like
Speaker 5: super crazy loud like. But the thing that I noticed
Speaker 5: was it wasn't just playing really loud. It was getting louder,
Speaker 5: like it was turning up.
Speaker 1: It was music or yeah, it was music.
Speaker 5: And it but it was just like super loud. It
Speaker 5: was really weird. It was like all of the electronic stuff.
Speaker 5: Because that happened a few times, like the iTunes thing
Speaker 5: where it would just turn on and play his music.
Speaker 5: It was always like at a volume that we would
Speaker 5: never play music, especially at that time of night. So
Speaker 5: it was very strange, and that one was a little scary.
Speaker 5: That was when he was like, wow, that was kind
Speaker 5: of weird, and I was like, yeah, you.
Speaker 1: Think, yeah, remember when you said.
Speaker 5: Like you called it out, yeah, exactly, So Uh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5: I mean there's just like a huge list of things
Speaker 5: that I could go through.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Now, did you see the ghost ever?
Speaker 4: Yes and no?
Speaker 6: Maybe.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 5: So this was the This was I had two incidents
Speaker 5: that really scared me. This was the first one. So
Speaker 5: I came home one night, it was probably around midnight.
Speaker 5: House was quiet. I think he was upstairs asleep, and
Speaker 5: I walked. I was walking through our entryway to go
Speaker 5: into the kitchen. We had a half bath that was downstairs,
Speaker 5: and I was going to walk in and use the bathroom,
Speaker 5: and so so I was walking through and I was
Speaker 5: in that little space where you're underneath the stairs, and
Speaker 5: I heard a noise behind me, and I thought it
Speaker 5: was one of the dogs, and so I turned around,
Speaker 5: you know, to greet them or whatever, and there was
Speaker 5: nothing there. And I don't think the noise was produced by,
Speaker 5: you know, a ghost or whatever. I think it may
Speaker 5: have just been a house creek or whatever. But when
Speaker 5: I turned back around, there was a face in front
Speaker 5: of my face. I mean it was like inches from
Speaker 5: my face.
Speaker 1: Oh god. And it is like the ultimate, like like freaking,
Speaker 1: like such a horror movie trope or whatever. We look
Speaker 1: back there's something.
Speaker 4: Yes, and I like, And it wasn't a face like
Speaker 4: a human face. It's hard to explain.
Speaker 5: It was like, have you ever been like a county
Speaker 5: fair where they take apples and like carve a face
Speaker 5: in and then let them dry out so they look
Speaker 5: like a shrunken head.
Speaker 1: I can't say I've ever seen them, but I can
Speaker 1: imagine that.
Speaker 4: Google it later it makes sense.
Speaker 5: So it looked like that, but it was orange and
Speaker 5: it it just it's so hard to describe because it
Speaker 5: wasn't like I saw like hair or you know, a
Speaker 5: body or anything.
Speaker 4: It was just like just the face and like, but was.
Speaker 1: It the size of an apple or was it like
Speaker 1: a human head?
Speaker 4: It wasn't.
Speaker 5: No, it wasn't like the size of a human head.
Speaker 5: It was smallish. It was probably around yeah, like the
Speaker 5: size of an apple. And it was like my brain
Speaker 5: and eyes took a second to like adjust to what
Speaker 5: was happening, and as soon as I as soon as
Speaker 5: like everything came into focus, it like shot backwards. And
Speaker 5: it's so hard to describe. It like shot backwards into
Speaker 5: like it just disappeared. Oh my god, it was crazy
Speaker 5: that that was the craziest thing that happened, and it's
Speaker 5: me so bad. I ran upstairs, jumped under the covers,
Speaker 5: I pulled them over my head, and I had like
Speaker 5: a very serious conversation with whatever entities were in our house.
Speaker 5: I just was like, look, I am fine with you
Speaker 5: living here. I have to live here too, but you
Speaker 5: cannot do anything like that again, Like you can't scare me.
Speaker 4: That's really not fair.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting how much that's kind of like a
Speaker 1: roommate conversation.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 1: Well, it's like you have to sit down and be like, listen,
Speaker 1: you gotta pick up your dishes.
Speaker 4: Yes, exactly, Like look, man, you cannot just show up
Speaker 4: in my face like no, never.
Speaker 1: With your little County fair apple truck headhead.
Speaker 5: Yeah that was and nothing really, nothing like that ever
Speaker 5: happened again.
Speaker 4: Like I saw like.
Speaker 5: A little orb and and it was orange, Like I
Speaker 5: think that was kind of its color, which is interesting
Speaker 5: because I looked up years later, I looked up orange orbs,
Speaker 5: and I think orange is like protection. So I don't know,
Speaker 5: I don't know if like what was going on or
Speaker 5: you know, why why it did that, But you know,
Speaker 5: in that same space under the stairs I I had
Speaker 5: I felt like a hand run over the top of
Speaker 5: my head, like it was just kind of caressing my
Speaker 5: hair down.
Speaker 4: That was also kind of strange.
Speaker 1: Oh god, oh I hate that now. Was it cold?
Speaker 1: I feel like we don't hear so much on this
Speaker 1: podcast that, but I always thought that, like you people
Speaker 1: always talk about ghosts being freezing cold, But then I
Speaker 1: hear a let of people touch getting touched and they
Speaker 1: don't say that, So what was there experience.
Speaker 5: I wouldn't say that it was cold. I mean, it
Speaker 5: definitely created like a shiver for me, but not because
Speaker 5: I was cold. It was more like, yeah, Wow, I
Speaker 5: can't believe this is happening.
Speaker 1: Wow. So then you just eventually you moved out and
Speaker 1: that was it.
Speaker 5: Well, my partner and I are along together. He still
Speaker 5: lives in the house.
Speaker 1: Really yeah.
Speaker 5: I don't know if there's any activity or or any
Speaker 5: of that, but I so, I mean, there were like
Speaker 5: a few other little things that happened. But the last
Speaker 5: thing that happened before I moved out was also something
Speaker 5: that scared me. And so I was upstairs. I had
Speaker 5: just taken a shower. I got out of the shower
Speaker 5: and at that point we were just down to one
Speaker 5: dog and she was standing on the landing upstairs, and
Speaker 5: she just was kind of, you know, she just kind
Speaker 5: of wanted to play and was just kind of dancing around.
Speaker 5: And she had one of those like antlers that dogs
Speaker 5: chew on, and it was just sitting on the floor
Speaker 5: and she on it, and when she stepped on it,
Speaker 5: it kind of like popped it out from under her
Speaker 5: foot and like slid it toward me, and so I
Speaker 5: put my foot on top of it and pushed it
Speaker 5: backwards back toward her. But what it did was it
Speaker 5: slid between her her feet and went into the office
Speaker 5: behind her. And when that happened, I thought, God, wouldn't
Speaker 5: it be so weird if it like came shooting back
Speaker 5: out at me from the haunted office. And you know,
Speaker 5: nothing happened, and so we just she didn't want to
Speaker 5: play anymore, and so we went downstairs, and about a
Speaker 5: minute after I got downstairs, the iTunes turned on in
Speaker 5: his office again, crazy crazy loud, and I was home alone,
Speaker 5: and I like totally freaked out. I ran upstairs and
Speaker 5: I just started like smashing buttons and my pulling cords
Speaker 5: to make it stop because I couldn't figure out how
Speaker 5: to turn it off. And I remember I ran outside
Speaker 5: and I called him and I said, you have to
Speaker 5: come home right now, like I can't be in this
Speaker 5: house alone anymore.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and yeah, that was the last thing that happened.
Speaker 4: But did you know.
Speaker 1: Ever find out history of it?
Speaker 4: Oh, so I'm glad you asked that.
Speaker 5: So I when stuff kind of started really ramping up
Speaker 5: and happening, I called the wife of the couple and
Speaker 5: asked her, like, you mentioned something about staging, and you
Speaker 5: know what happened in this house? And she told me
Speaker 5: that her they had bought the house from the children
Speaker 5: of a couple who had lived there for you know,
Speaker 5: sixty years or something, and they both had passed on.
Speaker 5: I don't know if they died in the house, but
Speaker 5: they both were in late stage dementia, and at one point,
Speaker 5: I guess the wife used to lock the husband in
Speaker 5: one of the bedrooms upstairs, like when they would both
Speaker 5: get so kind of I don't know, like in their
Speaker 5: disease and they were just not thinking, and so yeah,
Speaker 5: she would lock them. I think she, if I had
Speaker 5: to choose one of the rooms upstairs, I think she
Speaker 5: locked them in the room that was that was the office,
Speaker 5: because that seemed to be like where most of like
Speaker 5: the real activity was happening, like the iTunes would always
Speaker 5: turn on in there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think this woman, say, what would happen
Speaker 1: to her?
Speaker 4: No, she because they never lived in the house.
Speaker 2: Oh.
Speaker 5: They they bought it and completely restored it and then
Speaker 5: just rented it out. But she said that when she
Speaker 5: was upstairs, you know, working on on the you know,
Speaker 5: painting and stuff like that, that she used to get
Speaker 5: just weird vibes is all she really said. And she
Speaker 5: said just the history of the house was that it
Speaker 5: was built by a family that had moved to California
Speaker 5: from Colorado like that. I mean, there really wasn't any
Speaker 5: other history that she had found other than that.
Speaker 7: Hmm.
Speaker 1: Interesting. Well, this is amazing. Thank you so much for
Speaker 1: sharing this.
Speaker 5: Oh thank you for having me. I adore you. I
Speaker 5: love your show.
Speaker 1: Oh thank you.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I can't wait until I can see you live.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I can't wait until I can do that.
Speaker 5: There's a ghost in my house.
Speaker 1: Hello, Hello, Hi Rachel. Where are you.
Speaker 6: I'm in Hamilton, Ontario, Canada.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, but thanks so much for calling.
Speaker 6: Oh no problem.
Speaker 1: I want to hear about this time that you saw
Speaker 1: a full blown ghost. What is up with that.
Speaker 6: Well, honestly, I keep forgetting it happened because it seems
Speaker 6: so normal at the time.
Speaker 1: What do you mean.
Speaker 6: It wasn't spooky. You know, you've had like times in
Speaker 6: your life where things are like spook your feel weird.
Speaker 6: This was just like a random night out.
Speaker 7: On the town.
Speaker 1: Okay. What happened?
Speaker 6: Well, there was like a storm coming over Lake, Ontario,
Speaker 6: and I was out on a night with a boy
Speaker 6: I was seeing, and I thought like, wouldn't it be
Speaker 6: fun if we walk out to the edge of the
Speaker 6: lake and watch the storm come over the lake. And
Speaker 6: it's sort of creepy because we were down in nagar
Speaker 6: on the Lake, which is a little haunted town in Ontario.
Speaker 6: And we get to the corner of the lake and
Speaker 6: there's a little like part of a fort that used
Speaker 6: to be there in the eighteen hundreds that was used
Speaker 6: as like the lookout to watch across the lake and
Speaker 6: make sure the Americans didn't attack. And there was like
Speaker 6: a cave that went inside all the way to the
Speaker 6: fort in town and it's all like like boarded off.
Speaker 6: It's part of a golf course now. So we're sitting
Speaker 6: there on the hill watching the storm come across. This
Speaker 6: guy gets creeped out. He's like, I'm walking back to
Speaker 6: my car, and I'm like, suit yourself, Bud. And I
Speaker 6: look over.
Speaker 1: What number date was the.
Speaker 6: Oh, like two or three? He was pretty regular.
Speaker 7: He wasn't special, Okay.
Speaker 6: So I look over to my right and there's like
Speaker 6: a guy sitting there watching the storm come in too.
Speaker 6: We sort of like exchange a look and look back
Speaker 6: at the storm, and then I think, wait a minute,
Speaker 6: I didn't see anyone else walk out here. It's like
Speaker 6: we walked across a golf course. You can't hide on
Speaker 6: a golf course. I look back, No one is there.
Speaker 6: And then I think to myself that guy was wearing
Speaker 6: like knee high boots in the middle of summer. And
Speaker 6: so I walked back to the car and I don't
Speaker 6: say anything.
Speaker 1: About it, but did you look back and was he
Speaker 1: still there?
Speaker 6: Like?
Speaker 1: Was it one of these was gone?
Speaker 6: I looked back, he was gone, and like he wasn't
Speaker 6: like see through or fuzzy. It was just like another
Speaker 6: person sitting like five or six feet from me on
Speaker 6: the hill.
Speaker 1: Now, was he cuter than the guy you were on
Speaker 1: the date with?
Speaker 6: I have to say he was, Damn it.
Speaker 1: The one that got away, I know.
Speaker 6: And Niagar on the Lake is super haunted. Like everyone
Speaker 6: who's lived there or work there has like four or
Speaker 6: five stories. My mom worked at a graphic design firm
Speaker 6: there when she was in her twenties and she has
Speaker 6: a bunch. But like, it's just there was a war
Speaker 6: there and there's it's just a creepy little town with
Speaker 6: ghost tours and haunted hotels and bed and breakfast and stuff.
Speaker 7: So I shouldn't have been surprised.
Speaker 1: So you would think this guy was a soldier, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was.
Speaker 6: Probably a Canadian. Well I would have been British back then,
Speaker 6: but a soldier. And he was at the lookout like
Speaker 6: he would have been, and then he wasn't there anymore.
Speaker 6: And I was telling, Okay, I went on a ghost
Speaker 6: tour in my city around you know, Halloween time, And
Speaker 6: after the tour, I was talking to the tour guide
Speaker 6: and he said, oh, we also do them in i
Speaker 6: around the lake. We go to this part of the
Speaker 6: golf course that's super haunted, and then proceeds to tell
Speaker 6: me like the exact story that had happened to me
Speaker 6: like twenty years ago.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. So he's also been on a date and.
Speaker 6: Sell this guy, well, I don't know if he was
Speaker 6: on a date, but he said, oh, everyone that goes
Speaker 6: out there says they see people like keeping watch.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Now, of course I always have to ask,
Speaker 1: was he see through it glowing sea through?
Speaker 6: Not glowing like a regular per I mean, it was
Speaker 6: kind of dark because you know, there's no lights at
Speaker 6: the corner there, but nothing about him except the fact
Speaker 6: that he was wearing like knee high boots and pants
Speaker 6: in the summer was like out of plate.
Speaker 1: Right ooh that's cool, And there.
Speaker 6: Was no creepy feeling like I was just like, oh,
Speaker 6: there's somebody here, and no, there isn't. And then I
Speaker 6: went back to the car and I didn't say anything
Speaker 6: to that guy because he would have lost his mind.
Speaker 6: Oh you know, like.
Speaker 7: It was.
Speaker 6: It was creepy that it happened, but it wasn't scary.
Speaker 1: Have you had creepy paranormal experiences?
Speaker 6: One of my friends, this is such a weird thing,
Speaker 6: and I still have to My friend and I talked
Speaker 6: by the time because we can't believe it happened. We
Speaker 6: were in Boston. She lives near Boston, and we went
Speaker 6: out to the North end for dinner one night, and
Speaker 6: it was the summer. It was like super busy. We
Speaker 6: left the Italian restaurant we were at and we're like
Speaker 6: walking down a random street and it was like time stop,
Speaker 6: Like you couldn't hear you couldn't hear anything. It was
Speaker 6: completely quiet, and we was like a busy night of
Speaker 6: the week, people are walking. We walk onto this one
Speaker 6: street and there's like no sound whatsoever. It was like
Speaker 6: a movie set.
Speaker 1: But were there people, No, there's no one.
Speaker 6: Like we were just one street off the main drag
Speaker 6: and there was like no people. There are lights on
Speaker 6: and windows, so I assume there were people in the buildings,
Speaker 6: so there was no sound, no breeze, nothing, And then
Speaker 6: we walked back and like as soon as we got
Speaker 6: off that street it was fine. And her husband and
Speaker 6: I looked at each other and we were like, that's
Speaker 6: how like a movie set, right, And he's like, yeah,
Speaker 6: kind of felt like time stopped when we were standing there.
Speaker 1: It was so.
Speaker 6: Weird and creepy, and we still bring it up and
Speaker 6: we're like, does that really happen, Like it was just
Speaker 6: like we walked Maybe it's just the way the buildings
Speaker 6: are designed that it's super quiet, but it was. It
Speaker 6: was very strange.
Speaker 1: Interesting. I wonder if other people report that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't even like, I don't know the street name,
Speaker 6: so I can't really look it up. But it was
Speaker 6: like a super you know, a night when everyone's out
Speaker 6: on the street, you know, people are eating outdoors. It's
Speaker 6: the middle of summer, and there's just no sound, no noise,
Speaker 6: no breeze, nothing on this little, like tiny old street
Speaker 6: in Boston.
Speaker 1: Interesting. But have you had other like, have you had
Speaker 1: other experiences with ghosts.
Speaker 6: I've never seen another ghost, but I have friends who've
Speaker 6: lived in houses that just you know, seemed off. Things
Speaker 6: would happen, like stuff would fall off the walls. My
Speaker 6: friends rented this house one year when they were students,
Speaker 6: and it was in it was like surprisingly cheap for
Speaker 6: where it was, which should have been like the first
Speaker 6: giveaway that something was wrong with the house. Yeah, Like
Speaker 6: it was in a really great area and it was
Speaker 6: like four hundred bucks a person. They couldn't believe their luck.
Speaker 6: And everyone who went in the house is like, I
Speaker 6: don't like the way this house feels.
Speaker 2: Why.
Speaker 6: The ceiling was painted gray, the walls were painted gray,
Speaker 6: the carpets were gray. The whole place was gray.
Speaker 7: It was so weird.
Speaker 6: And one of my friends slept over and she said
Speaker 6: she woke up in the middle of night and there
Speaker 6: was a person standing at dand of her bed ew
Speaker 6: I know, and she was like, she thought it was
Speaker 6: one of the you know, a house full of college kids.
Speaker 6: You think it's like some other roommate coming home late.
Speaker 6: But then she like rubbed her eyes. The person was gone,
Speaker 6: and she was like, yeah, And I just stayed up
Speaker 6: the rest of the night waiting to go home in
Speaker 6: the morning.
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely my worst nightmare. That's literally what the theme
Speaker 1: song of the show is about. Yeah.
Speaker 6: I like, I live in a really old house and
Speaker 6: it has never felt creepy or haunted at all. And
Speaker 6: I always feel kind of like ripped off about that
Speaker 6: because when we bought we bought the house, there was
Speaker 6: like a devil worshiping room.
Speaker 4: In the basement.
Speaker 1: What do you mean.
Speaker 7: There was?
Speaker 6: Our house was so old it has a room to
Speaker 6: store colon for like like a furnace, and now it's
Speaker 6: just like, you know, we store our old baby stuff
Speaker 6: in there that we don't need anymore. But we went
Speaker 6: to look at the house. I'd been painted with like
Speaker 6: obviously spray paint, not blood like a pentagram, and it's
Speaker 6: had like six sixty six and there was like candle
Speaker 6: wax all over the room. And the worst part is
Speaker 6: we still haven't painted over it.
Speaker 1: It still looks so good.
Speaker 6: Well, the candle wax stuff's gone, but I didn't repaint
Speaker 6: the door because like, no one goes in my basement.
Speaker 6: The realtor was like, oh, I forgot to paint over
Speaker 6: that before you guys came. We got a good deal
Speaker 6: in the house, so it's fine.
Speaker 1: Do you know who was living there before?
Speaker 6: Yeah, we do. She like left some of her stuff
Speaker 6: behind it. The guy who in the house had a
Speaker 6: like an angsty teen daughter in the nineties. Because we
Speaker 6: also found like keeen magazines that had like the guys
Speaker 6: from Metallico with heartstickers on it, and so so we
Speaker 6: think like she had a bit of a gos pace
Speaker 6: in the nineties and that was that was what was
Speaker 6: to blame.
Speaker 1: But she didn't open a portal or anything in the basement.
Speaker 6: Our house is so not haunted, like it's unbelievable. It's
Speaker 6: an old, creaky house. You'd think like nothing happens here. Ever,
Speaker 6: it's so boring.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it sounds like you wanted to be well.
Speaker 6: I mean, the odd thing might be interesting, but it was.
Speaker 6: It was like even when I walked in the house
Speaker 6: the first time, I was like, oh, this is a
Speaker 6: really nice like I have a good vibe for this house,
Speaker 6: because when you're looking at people's houses, you get the feelings. Yes,
Speaker 6: And it was like the first one we looked at that,
Speaker 6: I was like, I could see myself here. It seems
Speaker 6: like a happy, like happy building, even though the guy
Speaker 6: who sold it wasn't like a happy man. It was
Speaker 6: a nice house and.
Speaker 1: There just happened to be a room dedicated to Satan worship.
Speaker 6: The way when you're paying a mortgage and people aren't
Speaker 6: going to outbid you because there's a Satan room, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure that probably turned away a lot of people.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean maybe it did. And we got a
Speaker 6: good deal. And now our four our children's stuff is
Speaker 6: stored in there after they outgrow it, so hopefully they doesn't.
Speaker 4: Get on this.
Speaker 1: Hello Kyle from Buffalo, how are you you doing good?
Speaker 1: What is going on with you? You used to be
Speaker 1: a paranormal investigator. What happened? You're not doing it anymore?
Speaker 7: No, Basically, I work a lot of jobs right now.
Speaker 7: And when I was going to school at Medai College,
Speaker 7: they had a paranormal club that I randomly became the
Speaker 7: president of for two years. So in that timeframe, I
Speaker 7: investigated a lot of places in the Western New York area.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Cool. So it's like part of the college.
Speaker 1: It was like an extra curricular type club.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and it was really cool. So like when I
Speaker 7: went to go to the club Mew depty and everything,
Speaker 7: I was like, oh, paranormal. And then all of a
Speaker 7: sudden I became president and we would investigate the school
Speaker 7: which used to be a teaching school for nuns, and
Speaker 7: we've done a lot of investigations there. And then we've
Speaker 7: also gone to the Buffalo Naval Shipyard, which is amazing,
Speaker 7: Palmayra Historical Museum, Iron Island Museum, and there's a lot
Speaker 7: of places that you get to go. It's pretty fun.
Speaker 1: Cool. So what was like the craziest experience that happened.
Speaker 7: Like, let's see, there is one experience that was amazing
Speaker 7: where we went to the Buffalo Naval Shipyard and all
Speaker 7: the kids love that area because it was from seven
Speaker 7: am to two pm. We would go on the ship.
Speaker 7: There's just like one guy working and he'd be like, okay,
Speaker 7: you're here, lights are off. Have fun. And then we
Speaker 7: had full range of the USS Croker, which is like
Speaker 7: the submarine, so that's blacked out the Sullivans, and then
Speaker 7: also the Little Rock. So we went to the Little
Speaker 7: Rock and there's a point where we were like two
Speaker 7: levels before below the deck, and we had groups separated
Speaker 7: because we had some of us. So we went into
Speaker 7: this lower deck that was like a bunker area for
Speaker 7: the people, and then there's one where I started hearing
Speaker 7: noises of the other group coming. So I told the
Speaker 7: guys like, hey, let me just step forward real quick
Speaker 7: and say like quiet down, because you're going to be
Speaker 7: interfering with their audio. And the way that it works
Speaker 7: in the room is that you have to go down
Speaker 7: a stairwell, which is in a hallway into the bunker.
Speaker 7: So everybody else was in this big room like scattered
Speaker 7: against the walls, and I walked forward toward the stairwell.
Speaker 7: When I looked up, I saw and it took two
Speaker 7: years for me to actually see something physically if I
Speaker 7: saw this, or and imagine the size of like a
Speaker 7: school globe in a classroom, and it was like orange.
Speaker 7: It kind of had like a like a watery fuel
Speaker 7: to it, and it was kind of like at the
Speaker 7: height that a person's head would be at, like someone
Speaker 7: who's like maybe five ten, and it was kind of
Speaker 7: bobbing the way that a person would be walking down
Speaker 7: the hallway, and they were going in the direction away
Speaker 7: from the other group that was coming. So I saw it,
Speaker 7: and then I quickly ran upstairs, looked my lefts and
Speaker 7: the other group. I was like, did you guys see that?
Speaker 7: And they said we saw something, but what they saw
Speaker 7: was like a dark shadow. So I don't understand how
Speaker 7: I saw this huge right arg and with them they
Speaker 7: saw darkness. I don't know the ParaScience for that. But
Speaker 7: we tried to debunk it with flashlights all the nine yards,
Speaker 7: but I couldn't recreate the effects. And that was pretty amazing.
Speaker 1: Well do you think it was the same entity or
Speaker 1: do you think it could have been two different entities?
Speaker 7: I actually never have thought about it. I don't know
Speaker 7: how it works where from like maybe from a different perspective,
Speaker 7: like they could see like the darkness and shadow it
Speaker 7: taking the light like casting it.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 7: Exactly how the ParaScience works bind it. But to me,
Speaker 7: I think it definitely could have been like the same entity.
Speaker 7: Maybe different perspectives, the way people visualize see things, how
Speaker 7: sensitive you are all that, So I don't I think
Speaker 7: it was the same entity but just had like a
Speaker 7: difference effect on certain people.
Speaker 1: Perhaps, Yeah, are the no is that ship known for
Speaker 1: having multiple ghosts? Is it like a super populated ghost ship?
Speaker 7: I believe so because on that ship was actually on
Speaker 7: an episode of ghost Hunters, and during the day when
Speaker 7: you go on it, there's like a ghost room that
Speaker 7: they have where they constantly like replay the episode of
Speaker 7: ghost Hunters on a loop. Okay, we actually we go
Speaker 7: from the big ship to the smaller ship to the submarine,
Speaker 7: and there's always something going on. So when the kids
Speaker 7: would get ready, I was pretty excited because we always
Speaker 7: had amazing audio. K two's were amazing. That was my
Speaker 7: first time and the only time I have or basically
Speaker 7: saw something. But going on to different a different ship,
Speaker 7: we have a huge rule where you don't investigate alone
Speaker 7: because of credibility. If multiple people see one thing, it's
Speaker 7: more credible as evidence. So we K two entire like
Speaker 7: hallway and then we go into like a separate bunker
Speaker 7: room that is drawn by like a curtain four door.
Speaker 1: There are people that don't know ghost hunting. What can
Speaker 1: you explain what K two is.
Speaker 7: K two meter is like this little black box and
Speaker 7: then it goes from like a green light to a
Speaker 7: red light, and it measures the electro backnet field and
Speaker 7: basically you can use it to like talk the ghosts
Speaker 7: and ghost basically have a EMF about them where they
Speaker 7: can use the K meter in order to communicate responses
Speaker 7: to you. And then you can also use that same
Speaker 7: K two meter to measure areas like I did, to
Speaker 7: make sure that a area is dead of EMF so
Speaker 7: that when you're actually getting responses off of a K
Speaker 7: two meter, it's credible that it goes responding to So
Speaker 7: basically I basically did a sweep in this room. Nothing happened.
Speaker 7: It was like me and like six other people, and
Speaker 7: then we started going down this very very long hallway
Speaker 7: and I said, oh, no, guys, I forgot this device
Speaker 7: in the room. I have to go back. So I
Speaker 7: had my K two meter in my hands and I
Speaker 7: walked down this long hallway and in my minds, my
Speaker 7: group was at the very end and they could still
Speaker 7: see me, so I wasn't technically alone. But the second
Speaker 7: that I got to the curtain, I had my K
Speaker 7: two in my hand and I drew it open dramatically
Speaker 7: and just like walked in to get my device. My
Speaker 7: K two meter went from green to red and it
Speaker 7: stayed there for a good like fifteen SECONDSOO, I know,
Speaker 7: and I never had that happen to me before. So
Speaker 7: usually when us K two will be like green to
Speaker 7: yellow and it'll just be like for like a second,
Speaker 7: but it it was fifteen seconds pure red. We did
Speaker 7: this sweep beforehands and there was nothing in that room
Speaker 7: emitting EMF. So I walked in and immediately immediately went,
Speaker 7: I am so sorry. I did not mean to just
Speaker 7: barge in here without announcing myself. We were in here
Speaker 7: before and I left something in here and trying to
Speaker 7: like and I couldn't see anything. What I forgot was
Speaker 7: my flashlight. So I was just like in a dark
Speaker 7: room with this K two meter the only light that's
Speaker 7: on red.
Speaker 2: And then I hear.
Speaker 7: Footsteps behind me, and then another investigator comes behind me
Speaker 7: and he says Kyle, like, you know, what's up? Are
Speaker 7: you okay? And at that moment right when he comes
Speaker 7: down the corner, the K two meter goes to green
Speaker 7: and they just like left. And I immediately ran out
Speaker 7: and said, guys, we had to reinvestigate this room because
Speaker 7: this happened. And we went in and nothing happens again
Speaker 7: on the K two meter on that so it just left.
Speaker 1: That's so crazy how it just stayed there. I feel
Speaker 1: like your K two meter was inside of the ghost.
Speaker 1: Maybe I stuck in it.
Speaker 7: I don't know. He was probably starting dombes. It's just like, hey,
Speaker 7: what are you doing? This is my room, Like, oh, okay, sorry, yeah.
Speaker 7: But whenever we went into the Buffalo Naval Shipyard, we
Speaker 7: always have like some sort of like audio going on
Speaker 7: or and I felt that because I tried to look
Speaker 7: for my EVPs but it was on a flash drive
Speaker 7: and I can't find it. So I was very dis dropped.
Speaker 7: Because that leads me to the Palmyra Historical Museum in Palmyra,
Speaker 7: New York. And there it's basically this huge museum. The
Speaker 7: one's name is Bonnie and she's really sweet and she
Speaker 7: basically it's like a decently priced tours. Eight people. We
Speaker 7: go in and same thing. We always had a good
Speaker 7: audio there, nice raes on a K two meter there's
Speaker 7: a three houses, the museum area, the mule like I
Speaker 7: call it the meal building, and then a general store
Speaker 7: where above it loads a recluse who moved to new
Speaker 7: Or to pursue a career, failed, came back and died.
Speaker 7: So what I experienced there that was amazing was there
Speaker 7: was a point where I was investigating the mule house
Speaker 7: and I was giving a tour with some girls behind me,
Speaker 7: and we walked up to a door, and I said,
Speaker 7: beyond this door is a long hallway that goes into
Speaker 7: the basement. And so when I put my hands on
Speaker 7: the door handle, the entire door just like shut in
Speaker 7: on itself into the frame. So it was close already,
Speaker 7: and then it was as if somebody was on the
Speaker 7: other side and took the door handle and just like
Speaker 7: yanked it as hard as they could so that I
Speaker 7: couldn't open the door. And I thought I was the
Speaker 7: only one who could like saw that, so I didn't
Speaker 7: say anything. And then so behind me said, oh my god,
Speaker 7: and I was like yeah. So I very slowly, traumatically
Speaker 7: afford me style opened the door and there was nothing
Speaker 7: beyond it. And I'm a huge debunker as well, so
Speaker 7: I there were no windows, there was no draft, the
Speaker 7: ac didn't kick on, and we went forward. Nobody was
Speaker 7: in the basement that could mess with us, so that happens.
Speaker 7: And then in the general store where the woman passed away,
Speaker 7: it was closing time one investigation, and I was with
Speaker 7: Bonnie and we just did a sweet basement all the
Speaker 7: way up to the third flour together because she had
Speaker 7: to close down the building and I had to go
Speaker 7: through and make sure that my investigators didn't leave miscellaneous
Speaker 7: items like pendulums or dowsing arts or anything like that.
Speaker 7: So we did full sweep. Nobody was there, and there's
Speaker 7: a loud chime on the front door security wise, so
Speaker 7: that someone would open the door. You could hear it
Speaker 7: even on like the third floor, as if it was
Speaker 7: right next to you. So when we went to the
Speaker 7: first floor, in a backstairwell staircase, I saw old books
Speaker 7: which I love, and I talked to Bonnie and said, hey,
Speaker 7: these books are really nice, tell me about it, and
Speaker 7: then we started having conversation, and then very like movie style,
Speaker 7: above us, we heard like seven to eight female footsteps
Speaker 7: that were going across the kitchen, and we both thought
Speaker 7: and we looked at each other, and I loved it
Speaker 7: because both of our responses were to run up the
Speaker 7: stairwell to see who was up there, and we redid
Speaker 7: the sweep and nobody was there and it was pretty cool.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. So does this Bonnie woman is she
Speaker 1: does she deal with this just every day?
Speaker 7: Yes? So she basically the museum is opened during the
Speaker 7: day and basically they have it's like an hour and
Speaker 7: a half long story that she tells me. And they
Speaker 7: had a house that was located in a different area,
Speaker 7: and then they moved that museum on top of the
Speaker 7: grounds and hopefully miss correctly, like a family of seven
Speaker 7: passed away there from like a fire. And then they
Speaker 7: have the woman who was recluse who died of the
Speaker 7: general store. And so she is a huge paranel of person.
Speaker 7: So she does normal standard museum days, museum tours during
Speaker 7: the day, and then at night like it's full and
Speaker 7: ready for ghost hunting. So basically she is happy and
Speaker 7: giddy about it. You meet her her at like eight
Speaker 7: pm and she has the biggest smile on her face.
Speaker 7: She's like, Okay, guys, are you ready to go? I'm
Speaker 7: like yeah. So she deals with it with like every
Speaker 7: night and she loves it.
Speaker 1: That is so cool. So what about the college that
Speaker 1: you went to? Was the what do you call that
Speaker 1: a nunnery? What do you call what? A convent?
Speaker 7: I don't think it was a nunnery. Basically, it's a
Speaker 7: huge historical place and they have all these pictures on
Speaker 7: the wall, and one picture was of all the nuns
Speaker 7: that were going there like one year. There's like maybe
Speaker 7: like over one hundred of them. And I think it
Speaker 7: was like it was one of those like standard colleges
Speaker 7: where there was like another photo where like a nun
Speaker 7: was like next to like a chemistry set. So I
Speaker 7: think it was a teaching school for nuns to become
Speaker 7: teachers and go off to other like Christian, Catholic schools
Speaker 7: or whatever to teach.
Speaker 1: Got it okay? But were there any nune goes?
Speaker 7: There was? We did a K two slash audio thing
Speaker 7: and there was one ghost that claimed to be a nun.
Speaker 7: And basically we also had a couple of psychics who
Speaker 7: would come visit on some investigations and they claimed that
Speaker 7: the classroom that we were in used to be a
Speaker 7: breakroom for the nuns. So there was apparently a nun
Speaker 7: that was there on the breakroom. There was also reports
Speaker 7: of a nun that was in the like the top tier.
Speaker 7: It's a coffee shop that used to be like an
Speaker 7: attic of the college. But those are just like rumors
Speaker 7: and reports, and while investigating, we didn't get to experience
Speaker 7: seeing a nun. But a lot of students who were
Speaker 7: investigating in the club claimed to be sensitive and they
Speaker 7: could like see things, hear things. Whenever we did EVPs,
Speaker 7: there were a lot of audio, some of which were
Speaker 7: like normal, just like yes or no, but some of
Speaker 7: them were very dark. Actually it sounded like demonic, like
Speaker 7: really yeah. So it was this one girl was asking
Speaker 7: questions and this one person who this one ghosts who
Speaker 7: responded just like a deep, rasp beat voice and would
Speaker 7: respond with like really harsh like yes or no, And
Speaker 7: it seems a little bit malicious in tone. I don't
Speaker 7: know if he just had like a smoker's voice or whatever,
Speaker 7: but I.
Speaker 1: Mean it could be a smoky nun, I know exactly,
Speaker 1: like you know, it's been hot, yeah, these kids, Well,
Speaker 1: because I'm obsessed with, you know, Catholic stuff, and I
Speaker 1: like the movie The None. To me, it's like I
Speaker 1: think that's such a great concept. That's just like this
Speaker 1: demon that's posing as a nun. That's amazing. What you
Speaker 1: should here's what you should do next time you investigate
Speaker 1: that place. You should play the Sister X soundtrack. Oh my,
Speaker 1: see what happens?
Speaker 7: I was actually listening to that the other day. That's
Speaker 7: so funny. Brought that up. I think it would just
Speaker 7: rarely turn into like a ghost musical and all the
Speaker 7: kids would start dancing, and then it would be like
Speaker 7: the end of Beatlehooes where all like the football players
Speaker 7: except nuns would just start dancing.
Speaker 1: Yes, and then you float up into the air. Oh
Speaker 1: I love that bucket sounds amazing. I've been ghosted too special.
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