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Speaker 3: Yrons dresss Hey boo, it's me ros Dress Flas.

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Speaker 1: I'm having a good day, you know, despite the black

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Speaker 1: He plays Guillermot and he is going to be on

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Speaker 1: the show next week. And boy does Harvey bring it

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Speaker 1: listener episode in the subject line. I love Listener episodes

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Speaker 1: and I can't wait to record next month's soon, So

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Speaker 1: You can put it in the Facebook group ghosted by

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Speaker 1: Roz dres Flees and I was actually just looking through

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Speaker 1: This one right here came from Jessica. Listen to this

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Speaker 1: ghost story, Jessica says. I'm brand new to this group

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Speaker 1: and to the podcast. Welcome Jessica. I absolutely love it,

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Speaker 1: especially as a person who's grown up having had multiple

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Speaker 1: That one was creepy but did not feel menacing. What

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for sending me that. And I'm

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Speaker 1: with the show. Hello, Kate, how are you good?

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Speaker 1: Where are you?

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Speaker 1: I'm like that was a ghost moving on. Well, so

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Speaker 2: So I think the well, first of all, like my

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Speaker 1: Really, So what do you mean you like actually sought

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Speaker 2: No, but like I have this extremely morbid curiosity with

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Speaker 2: No, So every board that I have has either been

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Speaker 2: I unboxed it. But that doesn't mean that somebody might

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Speaker 2: Right right, I'm just like, oh, okay, maybe the witch

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Speaker 2: Why do you keep asking me this? And he's like,

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Speaker 1: Well, you know what's crazy is that some some theories

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Speaker 2: I am twenty eight now, and I left about three

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Speaker 1: He's still there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I I've been trying to get rid of

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Speaker 2: I heard everything. I was awake. It was not sleep paralysis.

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Speaker 2: So since we've moved, there's only one room in my

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Speaker 2: staring up to snarl, growling with teeth and literally like

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Speaker 1: Well, hey, it's nice to have the guard dog that

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Speaker 2: And I think Voodoo Caesar too, because Voodoo has just

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Speaker 2: yeah okay and yeah, and she doesn't like him either,

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Speaker 2: Like the door have started to rattle in my closet,

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Speaker 2: Like at my closet when we're sleeping, I'm starting to

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Speaker 1: Oh, that's not good.

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Speaker 2: And last week I woke up and all the water

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Speaker 1: On and you, I think I cut you off, but

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Speaker 2: Yes, he doesn't believe me, and true classic horror movie.

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Speaker 2: He's like, this is stupid. You're making it all up.

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Speaker 2: in a rural My parents live in a rural area.

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Speaker 2: Nobody has any kids, nobody has any grandkids. I shit,

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Speaker 2: you not. I heard somebody. We heard a little girl

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Speaker 1: He heard your boyfriend heard it too.

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Speaker 2: He heard it. He acknowledged it, and he's like, I'm

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Speaker 1: So has she followed you to places that are not

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 1: Have you ever encountered her other places?

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Speaker 2: I haven't, no other places has she? I mean she

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Speaker 2: might like follow me and I just don't know it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Now here's if this is a movie, I would guess

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Speaker 2: I've thought about it, but at the same time, like,

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Speaker 2: I don't I'm not trying to pick up more.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, she might have more friends. She's like, girl,

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Speaker 1: you gotta come with me. It's fun over here. We

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Speaker 1: That's terrifying. Now did you ever talk to that friend

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he and I are don't talk as much anymore,

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Speaker 2: but we're still friends and he doesn't know like half

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Speaker 1: What about that first night when you left in the

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Speaker 2: Why I left? And I was like, I don't know

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Speaker 2: But if it did, congratulations, you're the proud owner of

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Speaker 2: a very scary presence in your house.

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Speaker 1: Well did he did he report anything?

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Speaker 2: Well? He his apartment was haunted before we went, so

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Speaker 2: I don't know if it was her, if it was

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Now did you did you? You never asked him

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Speaker 2: Right, No, we did. Actually, I was like, let's talk

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Speaker 2: about this. Did she look like this? And he was

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, this is terrifying. So what do you

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Speaker 2: So I think I'm going to start working on like

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Speaker 2: of like a pendulum and a pendulum board with not

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Speaker 2: trying to work on that. I've just started like tarot

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Speaker 3: I guess, hello, pony, you're in La. I am in La, Yes,

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Speaker 3: So what's going on? You live in a haunted house?

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Speaker 4: I don't anymore.

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Speaker 5: I moved out about five years ago, but I lived

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Speaker 1: Really and what happened there, well, a lot of stuff.

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Speaker 1: What part of LA is this?

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Speaker 5: So it's in an area of LA called Arlington Heights,

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Speaker 5: got it? Do you know where that nightclub? The catch

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Speaker 5: is Jewels Catch Yes, Jewels Catch one. So that was

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, okay, Yeah.

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Speaker 5: So moved in around Christmas two thousand nine. Things were fine.

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Speaker 1: Now, oh God, Actually, like City La, there are so

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Speaker 4: Yes, and this was like amazing, amazing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I have a lot of friends that live over there,

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Speaker 1: and I always ask as well, as this place haunted?

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Speaker 1: And I have not encountered any myself yet, but they

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Speaker 1: I have. I can only imagine that a lot of

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so she tried to sage it, right, Okay, right.

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Speaker 5: So uh so okay, moved in. Everything was cool. We

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Speaker 5: somebody who is like, you know, pooh poo's it. Immediately

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Speaker 5: it's like, I'm open to this. I believe this happens.

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Speaker 1: And did you believe it before this incident?

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Speaker 4: I did, Yeah, I did, but I didn't.

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Speaker 5: I never got a weird vibe being in the house ever, Like,

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Speaker 5: oh I'm not alone or nothing like that.

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Speaker 4: Everything.

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Speaker 5: The only time it was weird was when stuff was

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Speaker 5: to feeling normal. But we moved in, We had some

437
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 5: friends over, we were talking about it. They left, and

438
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:24,359
Speaker 5: then you know, my partner and I we went to bed,

439
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:28,359
Speaker 5: and at about four four point thirty in the morning,

440
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:33,960
Speaker 5: we both were woken up by just some crazy loud noise.

441
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:36,439
Speaker 5: And what it was is that the TV downstairs had

442
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:40,040
Speaker 5: turned on, just on its own, but not at a

443
00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:43,000
Speaker 5: volume that we would ever watch it. It was so loud

444
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,000
Speaker 5: that it sounded like it was in our bedroom.

445
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:49,000
Speaker 1: Oh god. And so did you think it was a

446
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:50,159
Speaker 1: break in or something?

447
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:54,679
Speaker 5: I know, we just were like, wow, the TV's on, Like,

448
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:58,640
Speaker 5: that's strange and so and we had two dogs at

449
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:01,720
Speaker 5: the time, and so they they weren't freaking out. So yeah,

450
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 5: I mean, if someone had broken in, there would have

451
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:07,359
Speaker 5: been like total chaos. But so he just went downstairs

452
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,199
Speaker 5: and turned it off and then came back upstairs, and

453
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:14,240
Speaker 5: I remember he said, God, I wonder if this is

454
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 5: the start of the haunting.

455
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 1: Oh God, so perfect and.

456
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 5: Exactly exactly yeah, And so we just kind of were like, huh,

457
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,040
Speaker 5: that's funny, and then just went to sleep.

458
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:27,360
Speaker 4: And then.

459
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:30,879
Speaker 5: A couple other things happened. I mean, there were like

460
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 5: a couple like pretty intense things that happened. None of

461
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:39,000
Speaker 5: them really scared me, except I had two that really

462
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:40,320
Speaker 5: really scared me, Like.

463
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:43,720
Speaker 1: What were the things that didn't scare you?

464
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:45,359
Speaker 4: Uh?

465
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:50,000
Speaker 5: So I had a friend over. He was staying with

466
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:53,240
Speaker 5: us for a couple of days, and we were, you know,

467
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:56,199
Speaker 5: day drinking, and then we decided we were just going

468
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:57,679
Speaker 5: to take a nap and then get up and go

469
00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:01,159
Speaker 5: to dinner. And so he into our guest room. I

470
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 5: went into our bedroom, and my partner at the time,

471
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 5: he was at work, so it was just, uh, send

472
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,399
Speaker 5: the dogs and so we you know, just took our

473
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 5: naps and woke up, and then I went downstairs and

474
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:15,199
Speaker 5: he was already downstairs, and he said, why did you

475
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:18,400
Speaker 5: come into the bedroom when I you know, And I

476
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:22,960
Speaker 5: was like, I didn't come into the bedroom and he said, yeah,

477
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:24,399
Speaker 5: you came in when I was asleep.

478
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:26,479
Speaker 4: He said, I it woke me up.

479
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:28,440
Speaker 5: And I pretended to be asleep because I didn't want

480
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 5: you to bother me. And he said, but you you

481
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:33,439
Speaker 5: walked across the room and got and went into the

482
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:35,400
Speaker 5: closet and I said, no, I.

483
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,119
Speaker 1: Didn't went into the closet.

484
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, like open the closet door and like you know,

485
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 5: was rustling around in the closet and I said, no,

486
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,439
Speaker 5: that wasn't me. And we're the only two people here,

487
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 5: so I don't know what to help you.

488
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I love how you say it. This

489
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,280
Speaker 1: didn't scare you, right.

490
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 4: He was scared.

491
00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 5: So uh, you know, like nothing really had happened after that,

492
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 5: and then like about maybe SIXI ish months later, in decided,

493
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 5: you know, when I was preparing to talk to you,

494
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:09,679
Speaker 5: I found an old email that I sent to a

495
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:11,919
Speaker 5: friend that kind of had a breakdown of dates and

496
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 5: what happened.

497
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 4: So it really was really helpful.

498
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:20,359
Speaker 5: So so around so I noticed a pattern too. It

499
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:23,679
Speaker 5: was like stuff would happen like in clusters, like two

500
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:25,679
Speaker 5: or three days at a time, and then like nothing

501
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:27,359
Speaker 5: for a couple of months, and then it would be

502
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,880
Speaker 5: another cluster of two or three days of stuff happening.

503
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:35,159
Speaker 5: And it was really strange. But so nothing happened for

504
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 5: like six or seven months, and then like December of

505
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 5: that next year. Uh, we were home one night and

506
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 5: it was just one of those rare nights. It was

507
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:48,160
Speaker 5: really quiet, like no TV was on, no music or anything.

508
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,119
Speaker 5: I was working on my laptop on the couch. My

509
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 5: partner was just kind of snoozing next to me. The

510
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 5: dogs were asleep in front of the fireplace. And just

511
00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 5: out of nowhere, like there were footsteps across the master bedroom,

512
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:07,120
Speaker 5: which was directly above the living room, like heavy booted,

513
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:11,200
Speaker 5: like work boot footsteps. Like it was definitely like a

514
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 5: man vibe, and it just like it's like I could

515
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,920
Speaker 5: tell that it walked from where our bed was into

516
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:24,680
Speaker 5: the closet in the bedroom, and it just like it

517
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 5: that was kind of freaky, and it was it was

518
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 5: even freakier because one of our dogs just woke up

519
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,199
Speaker 5: right away and like looked up at the ceiling, like

520
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:36,199
Speaker 5: what was that?

521
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 1: So that was that that was the same room that

522
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 1: your friend was sleeping in.

523
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 5: No, he was in the guest room. I was in

524
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 5: the bedroom. So there were definitely hot spots in this house. Yeah,

525
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 5: Like upstairs was a definite hot spot. Like upstairs, we

526
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 5: had three bedroom or we had three rooms. There were

527
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 5: two there was a master bedroom, a guest room, and

528
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 5: then a room that was used as my partner's office,

529
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 5: and so there was just all the activity that happened

530
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 5: really was kind of in that area, and then there

531
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 5: was another area downstairs that kind of the way the

532
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 5: house was set up. It's like if you walked into

533
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 5: the kitchen from the entry way, you were basically walking

534
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 5: underneath the stairs, got it and there was a lot

535
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 5: of like activity in that space too. So yeah, like

536
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 5: there was the footsteps. And then a couple days later,

537
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 5: I got a call at work from my partner and

538
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 5: he said, Hey, have you been home. I was like, no,

539
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 5: I'm at work. You know what's going on? He said,

540
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 5: because I just got home and all of the dogs

541
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 5: are locked in the bathroom upstairs.

542
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 1: What Yeah, Oh my god.

543
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 4: Yeah.

544
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 5: It was crazy, and like I kind of tried to

545
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 5: when I was looking at, like looking back at all

546
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 5: of this, I was trying to like connect the dots

547
00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 5: in a way of like it seemed like it was

548
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 5: almost like a weird call and response type thing where like,

549
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 5: like the first thing happened after I was talking about

550
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 5: it with people, Like it was almost like, oh, Okay,

551
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 5: you're going to talk about it, so I'm going to

552
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 5: show you what's really happening. And then the set, like

553
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 5: the footsteps thing happened.

554
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 2: Uh.

555
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 5: So, my partner and I had two dogs together, but

556
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 5: he also had a dog that he shared custody with

557
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 5: with his ex wife, and so we would fly that

558
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 5: dog from New York to LA every year.

559
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 4: For six months.

560
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 5: I know, I know he was worth a great dog,

561
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 5: and so he like the dogs getting locked into the bathroom.

562
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 5: That happened like just a couple of days after he'd

563
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 5: gotten there, so it was almost like, Okay, there's a

564
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 5: new energy in the house. I have to kind of

565
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 5: like show them whose boss?

566
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 1: And oh wow. It was crazy was that like they

567
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 1: the dogs were in the bathroom. The bathroom was the

568
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 1: door was locked. You couldn't get in it.

569
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 4: It's sorry, it wasn't locked. I shouldn't say locked.

570
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 5: It was closed, but it was like one of those

571
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 5: like I mean, it was an old craftsman so it

572
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 5: wasn't like a door that easily closed.

573
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 4: You had to turn the handle to close it totally.

574
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 5: So it was like, okay, how did you wrangle three

575
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 5: dogs into his bath?

576
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 1: Yeah?

577
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 4: And they were big dogs, they weren't small.

578
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 5: So yeah, so that happened, and then things were quiet

579
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 5: for a while, about a month or so. A lot

580
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 5: of stuff, like I'd forgotten some stuff happened until I

581
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 5: found this email to a friend, and it was like

582
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 5: I'd forgotten that one of our dogs specifically seemed to

583
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 5: be like really affected by this, like he was very

584
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 5: like aware of like what was happening, Like he would

585
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 5: wake us up at night. He'd be pacing and staring

586
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 5: and like he'd almost be like like you couldn't get

587
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 5: him out of this like space that you know. We

588
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 5: would call his name and like he just would respond

589
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 5: to us and it would just be like this weird

590
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 5: little trance, like he'd stare in the closet specifically, like

591
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 5: in our bedroom. There was something happening in that closet

592
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 5: that he just didn't really like, Wow, yeah it was

593
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 5: not it was it was crazy. But then I think

594
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 5: like around like the end of January, we had some

595
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 5: friends over for dinner, and of course we were talking about it,

596
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 5: and everybody left, we went up and went to bed,

597
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 5: and so the street that we were on a lot

598
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 5: of people parked on that street when they would go

599
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 5: to the Catch, and you know, they would like pre

600
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 5: game and stuff and it was no big deal like whatever,

601
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 5: but sometimes they'd get a little rowdy and loud.

602
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 4: And so when we were.

603
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 5: Going to bed, it was probably around midnight, and so

604
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 5: there were some people out on the street kind of

605
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 5: like just getting to the club and they were being

606
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 5: a little bit loud, and I just whatever, I just

607
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 5: fell asleep and then I woke up a little bit

608
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 5: later to a noise and I thought it was the

609
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 5: same people. I thought that I had just kind of

610
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,239
Speaker 5: drifted off for a few minutes and then woke up,

611
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 5: But it was like four hours later, and what I

612
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 5: actually was waking up to was the in my partner's office,

613
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 5: he had his computer linked up to like big speakers

614
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 5: for like you know, he would produce music and stuff,

615
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 5: and his iTunes turned on and started like playing like

616
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 5: super crazy loud like. But the thing that I noticed

617
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 5: was it wasn't just playing really loud. It was getting louder,

618
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 5: like it was turning up.

619
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 1: It was music or yeah, it was music.

620
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 5: And it but it was just like super loud. It

621
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 5: was really weird. It was like all of the electronic stuff.

622
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 5: Because that happened a few times, like the iTunes thing

623
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 5: where it would just turn on and play his music.

624
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 5: It was always like at a volume that we would

625
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 5: never play music, especially at that time of night. So

626
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 5: it was very strange, and that one was a little scary.

627
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 5: That was when he was like, wow, that was kind

628
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 5: of weird, and I was like, yeah, you.

629
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,239
Speaker 1: Think, yeah, remember when you said.

630
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 5: Like you called it out, yeah, exactly, So Uh, yeah, yeah.

631
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 5: I mean there's just like a huge list of things

632
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 5: that I could go through.

633
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:27,240
Speaker 4: Yeah.

634
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 1: Now, did you see the ghost ever?

635
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 4: Yes and no?

636
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 6: Maybe.

637
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 4: I don't know.

638
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:40,760
Speaker 5: So this was the This was I had two incidents

639
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 5: that really scared me. This was the first one. So

640
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,720
Speaker 5: I came home one night, it was probably around midnight.

641
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 5: House was quiet. I think he was upstairs asleep, and

642
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:54,360
Speaker 5: I walked. I was walking through our entryway to go

643
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,359
Speaker 5: into the kitchen. We had a half bath that was downstairs,

644
00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 5: and I was going to walk in and use the bathroom,

645
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 5: and so so I was walking through and I was

646
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 5: in that little space where you're underneath the stairs, and

647
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:07,799
Speaker 5: I heard a noise behind me, and I thought it

648
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,800
Speaker 5: was one of the dogs, and so I turned around,

649
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 5: you know, to greet them or whatever, and there was

650
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 5: nothing there. And I don't think the noise was produced by,

651
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:18,879
Speaker 5: you know, a ghost or whatever. I think it may

652
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,879
Speaker 5: have just been a house creek or whatever. But when

653
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 5: I turned back around, there was a face in front

654
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 5: of my face. I mean it was like inches from

655
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 5: my face.

656
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 1: Oh god. And it is like the ultimate, like like freaking,

657
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 1: like such a horror movie trope or whatever. We look

658
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:41,799
Speaker 1: back there's something.

659
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 4: Yes, and I like, And it wasn't a face like

660
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:48,760
Speaker 4: a human face. It's hard to explain.

661
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 5: It was like, have you ever been like a county

662
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 5: fair where they take apples and like carve a face

663
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 5: in and then let them dry out so they look

664
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:57,439
Speaker 5: like a shrunken head.

665
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 1: I can't say I've ever seen them, but I can

666
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 1: imagine that.

667
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:03,959
Speaker 4: Google it later it makes sense.

668
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 5: So it looked like that, but it was orange and

669
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,880
Speaker 5: it it just it's so hard to describe because it

670
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 5: wasn't like I saw like hair or you know, a

671
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 5: body or anything.

672
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:20,319
Speaker 4: It was just like just the face and like, but was.

673
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,319
Speaker 1: It the size of an apple or was it like

674
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:23,319
Speaker 1: a human head?

675
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 4: It wasn't.

676
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,359
Speaker 5: No, it wasn't like the size of a human head.

677
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,239
Speaker 5: It was smallish. It was probably around yeah, like the

678
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 5: size of an apple. And it was like my brain

679
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 5: and eyes took a second to like adjust to what

680
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 5: was happening, and as soon as I as soon as

681
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 5: like everything came into focus, it like shot backwards. And

682
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 5: it's so hard to describe. It like shot backwards into

683
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 5: like it just disappeared. Oh my god, it was crazy

684
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 5: that that was the craziest thing that happened, and it's

685
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 5: me so bad. I ran upstairs, jumped under the covers,

686
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 5: I pulled them over my head, and I had like

687
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:16,720
Speaker 5: a very serious conversation with whatever entities were in our house.

688
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 5: I just was like, look, I am fine with you

689
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:24,319
Speaker 5: living here. I have to live here too, but you

690
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 5: cannot do anything like that again, Like you can't scare me.

691
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 4: That's really not fair.

692
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:30,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting how much that's kind of like a

693
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 1: roommate conversation.

694
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 4: Right.

695
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 1: Well, it's like you have to sit down and be like, listen,

696
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 1: you gotta pick up your dishes.

697
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 4: Yes, exactly, Like look, man, you cannot just show up

698
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 4: in my face like no, never.

699
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 1: With your little County fair apple truck headhead.

700
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 5: Yeah that was and nothing really, nothing like that ever

701
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 5: happened again.

702
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 4: Like I saw like.

703
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 5: A little orb and and it was orange, Like I

704
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 5: think that was kind of its color, which is interesting

705
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 5: because I looked up years later, I looked up orange orbs,

706
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 5: and I think orange is like protection. So I don't know,

707
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 5: I don't know if like what was going on or

708
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 5: you know, why why it did that, But you know,

709
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 5: in that same space under the stairs I I had

710
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 5: I felt like a hand run over the top of

711
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 5: my head, like it was just kind of caressing my

712
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 5: hair down.

713
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 4: That was also kind of strange.

714
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 1: Oh god, oh I hate that now. Was it cold?

715
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 1: I feel like we don't hear so much on this

716
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:40,439
Speaker 1: podcast that, but I always thought that, like you people

717
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 1: always talk about ghosts being freezing cold, But then I

718
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 1: hear a let of people touch getting touched and they

719
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 1: don't say that, So what was there experience.

720
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 5: I wouldn't say that it was cold. I mean, it

721
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 5: definitely created like a shiver for me, but not because

722
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,320
Speaker 5: I was cold. It was more like, yeah, Wow, I

723
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 5: can't believe this is happening.

724
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 1: Wow. So then you just eventually you moved out and

725
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 1: that was it.

726
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 5: Well, my partner and I are along together. He still

727
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:13,800
Speaker 5: lives in the house.

728
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:15,360
Speaker 1: Really yeah.

729
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:18,919
Speaker 5: I don't know if there's any activity or or any

730
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 5: of that, but I so, I mean, there were like

731
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:26,800
Speaker 5: a few other little things that happened. But the last

732
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 5: thing that happened before I moved out was also something

733
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 5: that scared me. And so I was upstairs. I had

734
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:40,360
Speaker 5: just taken a shower. I got out of the shower

735
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 5: and at that point we were just down to one

736
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 5: dog and she was standing on the landing upstairs, and

737
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 5: she just was kind of, you know, she just kind

738
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 5: of wanted to play and was just kind of dancing around.

739
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,720
Speaker 5: And she had one of those like antlers that dogs

740
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:59,240
Speaker 5: chew on, and it was just sitting on the floor

741
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 5: and she on it, and when she stepped on it,

742
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 5: it kind of like popped it out from under her

743
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 5: foot and like slid it toward me, and so I

744
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 5: put my foot on top of it and pushed it

745
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 5: backwards back toward her. But what it did was it

746
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 5: slid between her her feet and went into the office

747
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 5: behind her. And when that happened, I thought, God, wouldn't

748
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:23,319
Speaker 5: it be so weird if it like came shooting back

749
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:29,319
Speaker 5: out at me from the haunted office. And you know,

750
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 5: nothing happened, and so we just she didn't want to

751
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 5: play anymore, and so we went downstairs, and about a

752
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 5: minute after I got downstairs, the iTunes turned on in

753
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:44,879
Speaker 5: his office again, crazy crazy loud, and I was home alone,

754
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 5: and I like totally freaked out. I ran upstairs and

755
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:51,800
Speaker 5: I just started like smashing buttons and my pulling cords

756
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 5: to make it stop because I couldn't figure out how

757
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 5: to turn it off. And I remember I ran outside

758
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:57,800
Speaker 5: and I called him and I said, you have to

759
00:40:57,840 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 5: come home right now, like I can't be in this

760
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 5: house alone anymore.

761
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, and yeah, that was the last thing that happened.

762
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:07,400
Speaker 4: But did you know.

763
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:09,399
Speaker 1: Ever find out history of it?

764
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 4: Oh, so I'm glad you asked that.

765
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,279
Speaker 5: So I when stuff kind of started really ramping up

766
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:20,359
Speaker 5: and happening, I called the wife of the couple and

767
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:24,360
Speaker 5: asked her, like, you mentioned something about staging, and you

768
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 5: know what happened in this house? And she told me

769
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 5: that her they had bought the house from the children

770
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 5: of a couple who had lived there for you know,

771
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:41,840
Speaker 5: sixty years or something, and they both had passed on.

772
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 5: I don't know if they died in the house, but

773
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 5: they both were in late stage dementia, and at one point,

774
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 5: I guess the wife used to lock the husband in

775
00:41:56,880 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 5: one of the bedrooms upstairs, like when they would both

776
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:04,319
Speaker 5: get so kind of I don't know, like in their

777
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:07,959
Speaker 5: disease and they were just not thinking, and so yeah,

778
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 5: she would lock them. I think she, if I had

779
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 5: to choose one of the rooms upstairs, I think she

780
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,280
Speaker 5: locked them in the room that was that was the office,

781
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:18,359
Speaker 5: because that seemed to be like where most of like

782
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:22,320
Speaker 5: the real activity was happening, like the iTunes would always

783
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 5: turn on in there.

784
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:28,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think this woman, say, what would happen

785
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:28,839
Speaker 1: to her?

786
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:33,360
Speaker 4: No, she because they never lived in the house.

787
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 2: Oh.

788
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:38,320
Speaker 5: They they bought it and completely restored it and then

789
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 5: just rented it out. But she said that when she

790
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 5: was upstairs, you know, working on on the you know,

791
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:50,400
Speaker 5: painting and stuff like that, that she used to get

792
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 5: just weird vibes is all she really said. And she

793
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 5: said just the history of the house was that it

794
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 5: was built by a family that had moved to California

795
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:05,399
Speaker 5: from Colorado like that. I mean, there really wasn't any

796
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 5: other history that she had found other than that.

797
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:09,799
Speaker 7: Hmm.

798
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:15,839
Speaker 1: Interesting. Well, this is amazing. Thank you so much for

799
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 1: sharing this.

800
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 5: Oh thank you for having me. I adore you. I

801
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 5: love your show.

802
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:20,840
Speaker 1: Oh thank you.

803
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:21,919
Speaker 2: Yeah.

804
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 4: I can't wait until I can see you live.

805
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I can't wait until I can do that.

806
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:32,320
Speaker 5: There's a ghost in my house.

807
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 1: Hello, Hello, Hi Rachel. Where are you.

808
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:42,360
Speaker 6: I'm in Hamilton, Ontario, Canada.

809
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 1: Oh my god, but thanks so much for calling.

810
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 6: Oh no problem.

811
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 1: I want to hear about this time that you saw

812
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 1: a full blown ghost. What is up with that.

813
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:56,360
Speaker 6: Well, honestly, I keep forgetting it happened because it seems

814
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 6: so normal at the time.

815
00:43:58,360 --> 00:43:59,280
Speaker 1: What do you mean.

816
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 6: It wasn't spooky. You know, you've had like times in

817
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 6: your life where things are like spook your feel weird.

818
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:08,240
Speaker 6: This was just like a random night out.

819
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 7: On the town.

820
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 1: Okay. What happened?

821
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 6: Well, there was like a storm coming over Lake, Ontario,

822
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:16,920
Speaker 6: and I was out on a night with a boy

823
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:19,440
Speaker 6: I was seeing, and I thought like, wouldn't it be

824
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 6: fun if we walk out to the edge of the

825
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 6: lake and watch the storm come over the lake. And

826
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 6: it's sort of creepy because we were down in nagar

827
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:29,279
Speaker 6: on the Lake, which is a little haunted town in Ontario.

828
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:31,880
Speaker 6: And we get to the corner of the lake and

829
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:34,879
Speaker 6: there's a little like part of a fort that used

830
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:36,879
Speaker 6: to be there in the eighteen hundreds that was used

831
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 6: as like the lookout to watch across the lake and

832
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:42,799
Speaker 6: make sure the Americans didn't attack. And there was like

833
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:45,279
Speaker 6: a cave that went inside all the way to the

834
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 6: fort in town and it's all like like boarded off.

835
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,360
Speaker 6: It's part of a golf course now. So we're sitting

836
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 6: there on the hill watching the storm come across. This

837
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 6: guy gets creeped out. He's like, I'm walking back to

838
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 6: my car, and I'm like, suit yourself, Bud. And I

839
00:44:58,239 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 6: look over.

840
00:44:58,920 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 1: What number date was the.

841
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 6: Oh, like two or three? He was pretty regular.

842
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:05,400
Speaker 7: He wasn't special, Okay.

843
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:08,360
Speaker 6: So I look over to my right and there's like

844
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:10,399
Speaker 6: a guy sitting there watching the storm come in too.

845
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 6: We sort of like exchange a look and look back

846
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 6: at the storm, and then I think, wait a minute,

847
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:16,799
Speaker 6: I didn't see anyone else walk out here. It's like

848
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:18,840
Speaker 6: we walked across a golf course. You can't hide on

849
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:22,320
Speaker 6: a golf course. I look back, No one is there.

850
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 6: And then I think to myself that guy was wearing

851
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 6: like knee high boots in the middle of summer. And

852
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 6: so I walked back to the car and I don't

853
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 6: say anything.

854
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 1: About it, but did you look back and was he

855
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 1: still there?

856
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:37,279
Speaker 6: Like?

857
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 1: Was it one of these was gone?

858
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 6: I looked back, he was gone, and like he wasn't

859
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 6: like see through or fuzzy. It was just like another

860
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 6: person sitting like five or six feet from me on

861
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 6: the hill.

862
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 1: Now, was he cuter than the guy you were on

863
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 1: the date with?

864
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:54,799
Speaker 6: I have to say he was, Damn it.

865
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 1: The one that got away, I know.

866
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 6: And Niagar on the Lake is super haunted. Like everyone

867
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 6: who's lived there or work there has like four or

868
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 6: five stories. My mom worked at a graphic design firm

869
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 6: there when she was in her twenties and she has

870
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:10,799
Speaker 6: a bunch. But like, it's just there was a war

871
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 6: there and there's it's just a creepy little town with

872
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:16,800
Speaker 6: ghost tours and haunted hotels and bed and breakfast and stuff.

873
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 7: So I shouldn't have been surprised.

874
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:21,839
Speaker 1: So you would think this guy was a soldier, right, Yeah,

875
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 1: it was.

876
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:24,359
Speaker 6: Probably a Canadian. Well I would have been British back then,

877
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 6: but a soldier. And he was at the lookout like

878
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:30,840
Speaker 6: he would have been, and then he wasn't there anymore.

879
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 6: And I was telling, Okay, I went on a ghost

880
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 6: tour in my city around you know, Halloween time, And

881
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 6: after the tour, I was talking to the tour guide

882
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 6: and he said, oh, we also do them in i

883
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 6: around the lake. We go to this part of the

884
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 6: golf course that's super haunted, and then proceeds to tell

885
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:47,880
Speaker 6: me like the exact story that had happened to me

886
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 6: like twenty years ago.

887
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 1: Oh my god. So he's also been on a date and.

888
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:54,880
Speaker 6: Sell this guy, well, I don't know if he was

889
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 6: on a date, but he said, oh, everyone that goes

890
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 6: out there says they see people like keeping watch.

891
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Now, of course I always have to ask,

892
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 1: was he see through it glowing sea through?

893
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:08,400
Speaker 6: Not glowing like a regular per I mean, it was

894
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 6: kind of dark because you know, there's no lights at

895
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:13,839
Speaker 6: the corner there, but nothing about him except the fact

896
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:16,280
Speaker 6: that he was wearing like knee high boots and pants

897
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:18,360
Speaker 6: in the summer was like out of plate.

898
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 1: Right ooh that's cool, And there.

899
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 6: Was no creepy feeling like I was just like, oh,

900
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 6: there's somebody here, and no, there isn't. And then I

901
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 6: went back to the car and I didn't say anything

902
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 6: to that guy because he would have lost his mind.

903
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 6: Oh you know, like.

904
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 7: It was.

905
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 6: It was creepy that it happened, but it wasn't scary.

906
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 1: Have you had creepy paranormal experiences?

907
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 6: One of my friends, this is such a weird thing,

908
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 6: and I still have to My friend and I talked

909
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:47,279
Speaker 6: by the time because we can't believe it happened. We

910
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:49,879
Speaker 6: were in Boston. She lives near Boston, and we went

911
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:51,759
Speaker 6: out to the North end for dinner one night, and

912
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 6: it was the summer. It was like super busy. We

913
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 6: left the Italian restaurant we were at and we're like

914
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:59,760
Speaker 6: walking down a random street and it was like time stop,

915
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 6: Like you couldn't hear you couldn't hear anything. It was

916
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 6: completely quiet, and we was like a busy night of

917
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 6: the week, people are walking. We walk onto this one

918
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:13,840
Speaker 6: street and there's like no sound whatsoever. It was like

919
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:15,240
Speaker 6: a movie set.

920
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 1: But were there people, No, there's no one.

921
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:21,360
Speaker 6: Like we were just one street off the main drag

922
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 6: and there was like no people. There are lights on

923
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 6: and windows, so I assume there were people in the buildings,

924
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 6: so there was no sound, no breeze, nothing, And then

925
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:32,279
Speaker 6: we walked back and like as soon as we got

926
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:34,880
Speaker 6: off that street it was fine. And her husband and

927
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:36,440
Speaker 6: I looked at each other and we were like, that's

928
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 6: how like a movie set, right, And he's like, yeah,

929
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 6: kind of felt like time stopped when we were standing there.

930
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:43,400
Speaker 1: It was so.

931
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:45,160
Speaker 6: Weird and creepy, and we still bring it up and

932
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:47,319
Speaker 6: we're like, does that really happen, Like it was just

933
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 6: like we walked Maybe it's just the way the buildings

934
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 6: are designed that it's super quiet, but it was. It

935
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 6: was very strange.

936
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:57,279
Speaker 1: Interesting. I wonder if other people report that.

937
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't even like, I don't know the street name,

938
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:02,279
Speaker 6: so I can't really look it up. But it was

939
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 6: like a super you know, a night when everyone's out

940
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:07,879
Speaker 6: on the street, you know, people are eating outdoors. It's

941
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 6: the middle of summer, and there's just no sound, no noise,

942
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:14,400
Speaker 6: no breeze, nothing on this little, like tiny old street

943
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 6: in Boston.

944
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:20,920
Speaker 1: Interesting. But have you had other like, have you had

945
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:22,880
Speaker 1: other experiences with ghosts.

946
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:26,439
Speaker 6: I've never seen another ghost, but I have friends who've

947
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 6: lived in houses that just you know, seemed off. Things

948
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 6: would happen, like stuff would fall off the walls. My

949
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 6: friends rented this house one year when they were students,

950
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 6: and it was in it was like surprisingly cheap for

951
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 6: where it was, which should have been like the first

952
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 6: giveaway that something was wrong with the house. Yeah, Like

953
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:45,880
Speaker 6: it was in a really great area and it was

954
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:48,439
Speaker 6: like four hundred bucks a person. They couldn't believe their luck.

955
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 6: And everyone who went in the house is like, I

956
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:53,360
Speaker 6: don't like the way this house feels.

957
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 2: Why.

958
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 6: The ceiling was painted gray, the walls were painted gray,

959
00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:59,439
Speaker 6: the carpets were gray. The whole place was gray.

960
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 7: It was so weird.

961
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:03,839
Speaker 6: And one of my friends slept over and she said

962
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 6: she woke up in the middle of night and there

963
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:09,239
Speaker 6: was a person standing at dand of her bed ew

964
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 6: I know, and she was like, she thought it was

965
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:13,440
Speaker 6: one of the you know, a house full of college kids.

966
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 6: You think it's like some other roommate coming home late.

967
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:18,720
Speaker 6: But then she like rubbed her eyes. The person was gone,

968
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:20,840
Speaker 6: and she was like, yeah, And I just stayed up

969
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 6: the rest of the night waiting to go home in

970
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:24,440
Speaker 6: the morning.

971
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely my worst nightmare. That's literally what the theme

972
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 1: song of the show is about. Yeah.

973
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:34,759
Speaker 6: I like, I live in a really old house and

974
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 6: it has never felt creepy or haunted at all. And

975
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 6: I always feel kind of like ripped off about that

976
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 6: because when we bought we bought the house, there was

977
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:44,280
Speaker 6: like a devil worshiping room.

978
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:44,680
Speaker 4: In the basement.

979
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 1: What do you mean.

980
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:47,759
Speaker 7: There was?

981
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:49,560
Speaker 6: Our house was so old it has a room to

982
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 6: store colon for like like a furnace, and now it's

983
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 6: just like, you know, we store our old baby stuff

984
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 6: in there that we don't need anymore. But we went

985
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 6: to look at the house. I'd been painted with like

986
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:04,759
Speaker 6: obviously spray paint, not blood like a pentagram, and it's

987
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 6: had like six sixty six and there was like candle

988
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:13,239
Speaker 6: wax all over the room. And the worst part is

989
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:15,920
Speaker 6: we still haven't painted over it.

990
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 1: It still looks so good.

991
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 6: Well, the candle wax stuff's gone, but I didn't repaint

992
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:22,280
Speaker 6: the door because like, no one goes in my basement.

993
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:25,359
Speaker 6: The realtor was like, oh, I forgot to paint over

994
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:28,439
Speaker 6: that before you guys came. We got a good deal

995
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:29,880
Speaker 6: in the house, so it's fine.

996
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:32,760
Speaker 1: Do you know who was living there before?

997
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:35,919
Speaker 6: Yeah, we do. She like left some of her stuff

998
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 6: behind it. The guy who in the house had a

999
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 6: like an angsty teen daughter in the nineties. Because we

1000
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 6: also found like keeen magazines that had like the guys

1001
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:48,839
Speaker 6: from Metallico with heartstickers on it, and so so we

1002
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 6: think like she had a bit of a gos pace

1003
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 6: in the nineties and that was that was what was

1004
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:53,800
Speaker 6: to blame.

1005
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 1: But she didn't open a portal or anything in the basement.

1006
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 6: Our house is so not haunted, like it's unbelievable. It's

1007
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 6: an old, creaky house. You'd think like nothing happens here. Ever,

1008
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 6: it's so boring.

1009
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, it sounds like you wanted to be well.

1010
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 6: I mean, the odd thing might be interesting, but it was.

1011
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:14,799
Speaker 6: It was like even when I walked in the house

1012
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 6: the first time, I was like, oh, this is a

1013
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 6: really nice like I have a good vibe for this house,

1014
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 6: because when you're looking at people's houses, you get the feelings. Yes,

1015
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:23,400
Speaker 6: And it was like the first one we looked at that,

1016
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:25,320
Speaker 6: I was like, I could see myself here. It seems

1017
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 6: like a happy, like happy building, even though the guy

1018
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:30,960
Speaker 6: who sold it wasn't like a happy man. It was

1019
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 6: a nice house and.

1020
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:37,280
Speaker 1: There just happened to be a room dedicated to Satan worship.

1021
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 6: The way when you're paying a mortgage and people aren't

1022
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,400
Speaker 6: going to outbid you because there's a Satan room, you know.

1023
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:45,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure that probably turned away a lot of people.

1024
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean maybe it did. And we got a

1025
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:51,920
Speaker 6: good deal. And now our four our children's stuff is

1026
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:54,840
Speaker 6: stored in there after they outgrow it, so hopefully they doesn't.

1027
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 4: Get on this.

1028
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 1: Hello Kyle from Buffalo, how are you you doing good?

1029
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 1: What is going on with you? You used to be

1030
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:14,880
Speaker 1: a paranormal investigator. What happened? You're not doing it anymore?

1031
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:19,480
Speaker 7: No, Basically, I work a lot of jobs right now.

1032
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:22,400
Speaker 7: And when I was going to school at Medai College,

1033
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:25,680
Speaker 7: they had a paranormal club that I randomly became the

1034
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:29,279
Speaker 7: president of for two years. So in that timeframe, I

1035
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 7: investigated a lot of places in the Western New York area.

1036
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Cool. So it's like part of the college.

1037
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 1: It was like an extra curricular type club.

1038
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:42,239
Speaker 7: Yeah, and it was really cool. So like when I

1039
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:44,720
Speaker 7: went to go to the club Mew depty and everything,

1040
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 7: I was like, oh, paranormal. And then all of a

1041
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:52,320
Speaker 7: sudden I became president and we would investigate the school

1042
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 7: which used to be a teaching school for nuns, and

1043
00:53:57,120 --> 00:53:59,239
Speaker 7: we've done a lot of investigations there. And then we've

1044
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:02,720
Speaker 7: also gone to the Buffalo Naval Shipyard, which is amazing,

1045
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 7: Palmayra Historical Museum, Iron Island Museum, and there's a lot

1046
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:09,479
Speaker 7: of places that you get to go. It's pretty fun.

1047
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 1: Cool. So what was like the craziest experience that happened.

1048
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:19,840
Speaker 7: Like, let's see, there is one experience that was amazing

1049
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:23,440
Speaker 7: where we went to the Buffalo Naval Shipyard and all

1050
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 7: the kids love that area because it was from seven

1051
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:30,760
Speaker 7: am to two pm. We would go on the ship.

1052
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:33,360
Speaker 7: There's just like one guy working and he'd be like, okay,

1053
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:36,319
Speaker 7: you're here, lights are off. Have fun. And then we

1054
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:40,920
Speaker 7: had full range of the USS Croker, which is like

1055
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 7: the submarine, so that's blacked out the Sullivans, and then

1056
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 7: also the Little Rock. So we went to the Little

1057
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:54,359
Speaker 7: Rock and there's a point where we were like two

1058
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:59,320
Speaker 7: levels before below the deck, and we had groups separated

1059
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 7: because we had some of us. So we went into

1060
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:05,440
Speaker 7: this lower deck that was like a bunker area for

1061
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:08,879
Speaker 7: the people, and then there's one where I started hearing

1062
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:12,440
Speaker 7: noises of the other group coming. So I told the

1063
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:14,960
Speaker 7: guys like, hey, let me just step forward real quick

1064
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:18,279
Speaker 7: and say like quiet down, because you're going to be

1065
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 7: interfering with their audio. And the way that it works

1066
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 7: in the room is that you have to go down

1067
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:25,920
Speaker 7: a stairwell, which is in a hallway into the bunker.

1068
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 7: So everybody else was in this big room like scattered

1069
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 7: against the walls, and I walked forward toward the stairwell.

1070
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:34,879
Speaker 7: When I looked up, I saw and it took two

1071
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:37,040
Speaker 7: years for me to actually see something physically if I

1072
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:40,799
Speaker 7: saw this, or and imagine the size of like a

1073
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:45,280
Speaker 7: school globe in a classroom, and it was like orange.

1074
00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:48,280
Speaker 7: It kind of had like a like a watery fuel

1075
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:49,719
Speaker 7: to it, and it was kind of like at the

1076
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:53,719
Speaker 7: height that a person's head would be at, like someone

1077
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 7: who's like maybe five ten, and it was kind of

1078
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:59,280
Speaker 7: bobbing the way that a person would be walking down

1079
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:02,800
Speaker 7: the hallway, and they were going in the direction away

1080
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:06,680
Speaker 7: from the other group that was coming. So I saw it,

1081
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:11,080
Speaker 7: and then I quickly ran upstairs, looked my lefts and

1082
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:13,400
Speaker 7: the other group. I was like, did you guys see that?

1083
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:16,959
Speaker 7: And they said we saw something, but what they saw

1084
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:21,840
Speaker 7: was like a dark shadow. So I don't understand how

1085
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:25,080
Speaker 7: I saw this huge right arg and with them they

1086
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:28,920
Speaker 7: saw darkness. I don't know the ParaScience for that. But

1087
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:33,439
Speaker 7: we tried to debunk it with flashlights all the nine yards,

1088
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:37,280
Speaker 7: but I couldn't recreate the effects. And that was pretty amazing.

1089
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:40,160
Speaker 1: Well do you think it was the same entity or

1090
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:43,080
Speaker 1: do you think it could have been two different entities?

1091
00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:46,160
Speaker 7: I actually never have thought about it. I don't know

1092
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 7: how it works where from like maybe from a different perspective,

1093
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 7: like they could see like the darkness and shadow it

1094
00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 7: taking the light like casting it.

1095
00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:56,120
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1096
00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 7: Exactly how the ParaScience works bind it. But to me,

1097
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:01,920
Speaker 7: I think it definitely could have been like the same entity.

1098
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:07,040
Speaker 7: Maybe different perspectives, the way people visualize see things, how

1099
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:10,399
Speaker 7: sensitive you are all that, So I don't I think

1100
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 7: it was the same entity but just had like a

1101
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:15,000
Speaker 7: difference effect on certain people.

1102
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:19,120
Speaker 1: Perhaps, Yeah, are the no is that ship known for

1103
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:24,960
Speaker 1: having multiple ghosts? Is it like a super populated ghost ship?

1104
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 7: I believe so because on that ship was actually on

1105
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:33,320
Speaker 7: an episode of ghost Hunters, and during the day when

1106
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 7: you go on it, there's like a ghost room that

1107
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:37,600
Speaker 7: they have where they constantly like replay the episode of

1108
00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:42,480
Speaker 7: ghost Hunters on a loop. Okay, we actually we go

1109
00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:45,520
Speaker 7: from the big ship to the smaller ship to the submarine,

1110
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:49,320
Speaker 7: and there's always something going on. So when the kids

1111
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:51,920
Speaker 7: would get ready, I was pretty excited because we always

1112
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:58,240
Speaker 7: had amazing audio. K two's were amazing. That was my

1113
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:00,680
Speaker 7: first time and the only time I have or basically

1114
00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:04,680
Speaker 7: saw something. But going on to different a different ship,

1115
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:09,640
Speaker 7: we have a huge rule where you don't investigate alone

1116
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:13,800
Speaker 7: because of credibility. If multiple people see one thing, it's

1117
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:18,480
Speaker 7: more credible as evidence. So we K two entire like

1118
00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:21,400
Speaker 7: hallway and then we go into like a separate bunker

1119
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:24,439
Speaker 7: room that is drawn by like a curtain four door.

1120
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 1: There are people that don't know ghost hunting. What can

1121
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:29,560
Speaker 1: you explain what K two is.

1122
00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:33,760
Speaker 7: K two meter is like this little black box and

1123
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:36,480
Speaker 7: then it goes from like a green light to a

1124
00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:39,800
Speaker 7: red light, and it measures the electro backnet field and

1125
00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:44,240
Speaker 7: basically you can use it to like talk the ghosts

1126
00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:48,040
Speaker 7: and ghost basically have a EMF about them where they

1127
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:51,320
Speaker 7: can use the K meter in order to communicate responses

1128
00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:53,600
Speaker 7: to you. And then you can also use that same

1129
00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:57,680
Speaker 7: K two meter to measure areas like I did, to

1130
00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:02,200
Speaker 7: make sure that a area is dead of EMF so

1131
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:05,160
Speaker 7: that when you're actually getting responses off of a K

1132
00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:09,360
Speaker 7: two meter, it's credible that it goes responding to So

1133
00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:14,120
Speaker 7: basically I basically did a sweep in this room. Nothing happened.

1134
00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:16,560
Speaker 7: It was like me and like six other people, and

1135
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:18,840
Speaker 7: then we started going down this very very long hallway

1136
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:22,720
Speaker 7: and I said, oh, no, guys, I forgot this device

1137
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:24,240
Speaker 7: in the room. I have to go back. So I

1138
00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 7: had my K two meter in my hands and I

1139
00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 7: walked down this long hallway and in my minds, my

1140
00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:32,320
Speaker 7: group was at the very end and they could still

1141
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:35,560
Speaker 7: see me, so I wasn't technically alone. But the second

1142
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:37,840
Speaker 7: that I got to the curtain, I had my K

1143
00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:41,040
Speaker 7: two in my hand and I drew it open dramatically

1144
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:43,800
Speaker 7: and just like walked in to get my device. My

1145
00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:47,280
Speaker 7: K two meter went from green to red and it

1146
00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:52,480
Speaker 7: stayed there for a good like fifteen SECONDSOO, I know,

1147
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:54,640
Speaker 7: and I never had that happen to me before. So

1148
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:57,400
Speaker 7: usually when us K two will be like green to

1149
00:59:57,560 --> 00:59:59,400
Speaker 7: yellow and it'll just be like for like a second,

1150
00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:02,440
Speaker 7: but it it was fifteen seconds pure red. We did

1151
01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:05,840
Speaker 7: this sweep beforehands and there was nothing in that room

1152
01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:10,080
Speaker 7: emitting EMF. So I walked in and immediately immediately went,

1153
01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:12,880
Speaker 7: I am so sorry. I did not mean to just

1154
01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:16,240
Speaker 7: barge in here without announcing myself. We were in here

1155
01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:18,760
Speaker 7: before and I left something in here and trying to

1156
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:21,400
Speaker 7: like and I couldn't see anything. What I forgot was

1157
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:23,560
Speaker 7: my flashlight. So I was just like in a dark

1158
01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:26,960
Speaker 7: room with this K two meter the only light that's

1159
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:27,439
Speaker 7: on red.

1160
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:28,200
Speaker 2: And then I hear.

1161
01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:31,440
Speaker 7: Footsteps behind me, and then another investigator comes behind me

1162
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:34,200
Speaker 7: and he says Kyle, like, you know, what's up? Are

1163
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:36,040
Speaker 7: you okay? And at that moment right when he comes

1164
01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:38,920
Speaker 7: down the corner, the K two meter goes to green

1165
01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:42,120
Speaker 7: and they just like left. And I immediately ran out

1166
01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:44,800
Speaker 7: and said, guys, we had to reinvestigate this room because

1167
01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:48,360
Speaker 7: this happened. And we went in and nothing happens again

1168
01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:51,600
Speaker 7: on the K two meter on that so it just left.

1169
01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:54,200
Speaker 1: That's so crazy how it just stayed there. I feel

1170
01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:57,520
Speaker 1: like your K two meter was inside of the ghost.

1171
01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:01,560
Speaker 1: Maybe I stuck in it.

1172
01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:05,640
Speaker 7: I don't know. He was probably starting dombes. It's just like, hey,

1173
01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:12,480
Speaker 7: what are you doing? This is my room, Like, oh, okay, sorry, yeah.

1174
01:01:12,520 --> 01:01:15,640
Speaker 7: But whenever we went into the Buffalo Naval Shipyard, we

1175
01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:18,400
Speaker 7: always have like some sort of like audio going on

1176
01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:21,560
Speaker 7: or and I felt that because I tried to look

1177
01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:24,479
Speaker 7: for my EVPs but it was on a flash drive

1178
01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:27,480
Speaker 7: and I can't find it. So I was very dis dropped.

1179
01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:32,360
Speaker 7: Because that leads me to the Palmyra Historical Museum in Palmyra,

1180
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:36,840
Speaker 7: New York. And there it's basically this huge museum. The

1181
01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:39,640
Speaker 7: one's name is Bonnie and she's really sweet and she

1182
01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:43,400
Speaker 7: basically it's like a decently priced tours. Eight people. We

1183
01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:46,200
Speaker 7: go in and same thing. We always had a good

1184
01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:49,760
Speaker 7: audio there, nice raes on a K two meter there's

1185
01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:54,280
Speaker 7: a three houses, the museum area, the mule like I

1186
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:56,560
Speaker 7: call it the meal building, and then a general store

1187
01:01:56,600 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 7: where above it loads a recluse who moved to new

1188
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:03,120
Speaker 7: Or to pursue a career, failed, came back and died.

1189
01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:08,320
Speaker 7: So what I experienced there that was amazing was there

1190
01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:11,040
Speaker 7: was a point where I was investigating the mule house

1191
01:02:11,600 --> 01:02:14,120
Speaker 7: and I was giving a tour with some girls behind me,

1192
01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:17,880
Speaker 7: and we walked up to a door, and I said,

1193
01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:19,840
Speaker 7: beyond this door is a long hallway that goes into

1194
01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:22,240
Speaker 7: the basement. And so when I put my hands on

1195
01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:26,880
Speaker 7: the door handle, the entire door just like shut in

1196
01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:31,280
Speaker 7: on itself into the frame. So it was close already,

1197
01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:33,160
Speaker 7: and then it was as if somebody was on the

1198
01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:35,280
Speaker 7: other side and took the door handle and just like

1199
01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:37,400
Speaker 7: yanked it as hard as they could so that I

1200
01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:40,160
Speaker 7: couldn't open the door. And I thought I was the

1201
01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:42,520
Speaker 7: only one who could like saw that, so I didn't

1202
01:02:42,520 --> 01:02:45,439
Speaker 7: say anything. And then so behind me said, oh my god,

1203
01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:48,720
Speaker 7: and I was like yeah. So I very slowly, traumatically

1204
01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:51,320
Speaker 7: afford me style opened the door and there was nothing

1205
01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:54,760
Speaker 7: beyond it. And I'm a huge debunker as well, so

1206
01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:56,960
Speaker 7: I there were no windows, there was no draft, the

1207
01:02:57,000 --> 01:03:00,640
Speaker 7: ac didn't kick on, and we went forward. Nobody was

1208
01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:04,440
Speaker 7: in the basement that could mess with us, so that happens.

1209
01:03:04,640 --> 01:03:08,720
Speaker 7: And then in the general store where the woman passed away,

1210
01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:12,640
Speaker 7: it was closing time one investigation, and I was with

1211
01:03:12,720 --> 01:03:16,080
Speaker 7: Bonnie and we just did a sweet basement all the

1212
01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:17,760
Speaker 7: way up to the third flour together because she had

1213
01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:20,280
Speaker 7: to close down the building and I had to go

1214
01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:23,480
Speaker 7: through and make sure that my investigators didn't leave miscellaneous

1215
01:03:23,480 --> 01:03:26,960
Speaker 7: items like pendulums or dowsing arts or anything like that.

1216
01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:30,000
Speaker 7: So we did full sweep. Nobody was there, and there's

1217
01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:33,000
Speaker 7: a loud chime on the front door security wise, so

1218
01:03:33,040 --> 01:03:35,680
Speaker 7: that someone would open the door. You could hear it

1219
01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:37,400
Speaker 7: even on like the third floor, as if it was

1220
01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:39,920
Speaker 7: right next to you. So when we went to the

1221
01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:45,200
Speaker 7: first floor, in a backstairwell staircase, I saw old books

1222
01:03:45,240 --> 01:03:47,280
Speaker 7: which I love, and I talked to Bonnie and said, hey,

1223
01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:49,400
Speaker 7: these books are really nice, tell me about it, and

1224
01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:54,440
Speaker 7: then we started having conversation, and then very like movie style,

1225
01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:58,400
Speaker 7: above us, we heard like seven to eight female footsteps

1226
01:03:58,520 --> 01:04:00,800
Speaker 7: that were going across the kitchen, and we both thought

1227
01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:03,200
Speaker 7: and we looked at each other, and I loved it

1228
01:04:03,240 --> 01:04:05,520
Speaker 7: because both of our responses were to run up the

1229
01:04:05,520 --> 01:04:08,280
Speaker 7: stairwell to see who was up there, and we redid

1230
01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:11,439
Speaker 7: the sweep and nobody was there and it was pretty cool.

1231
01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:15,000
Speaker 1: Oh my god. So does this Bonnie woman is she

1232
01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:18,480
Speaker 1: does she deal with this just every day?

1233
01:04:18,560 --> 01:04:21,680
Speaker 7: Yes? So she basically the museum is opened during the

1234
01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:25,400
Speaker 7: day and basically they have it's like an hour and

1235
01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:27,840
Speaker 7: a half long story that she tells me. And they

1236
01:04:27,880 --> 01:04:32,080
Speaker 7: had a house that was located in a different area,

1237
01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:34,240
Speaker 7: and then they moved that museum on top of the

1238
01:04:34,280 --> 01:04:37,080
Speaker 7: grounds and hopefully miss correctly, like a family of seven

1239
01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:40,760
Speaker 7: passed away there from like a fire. And then they

1240
01:04:40,800 --> 01:04:43,640
Speaker 7: have the woman who was recluse who died of the

1241
01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:47,479
Speaker 7: general store. And so she is a huge paranel of person.

1242
01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:52,120
Speaker 7: So she does normal standard museum days, museum tours during

1243
01:04:52,120 --> 01:04:54,920
Speaker 7: the day, and then at night like it's full and

1244
01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:58,720
Speaker 7: ready for ghost hunting. So basically she is happy and

1245
01:04:58,760 --> 01:05:01,479
Speaker 7: giddy about it. You meet her her at like eight

1246
01:05:01,520 --> 01:05:03,520
Speaker 7: pm and she has the biggest smile on her face.

1247
01:05:03,560 --> 01:05:05,520
Speaker 7: She's like, Okay, guys, are you ready to go? I'm

1248
01:05:05,560 --> 01:05:08,120
Speaker 7: like yeah. So she deals with it with like every

1249
01:05:08,200 --> 01:05:09,560
Speaker 7: night and she loves it.

1250
01:05:10,040 --> 01:05:14,000
Speaker 1: That is so cool. So what about the college that

1251
01:05:14,040 --> 01:05:17,880
Speaker 1: you went to? Was the what do you call that

1252
01:05:18,080 --> 01:05:21,520
Speaker 1: a nunnery? What do you call what? A convent?

1253
01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:25,560
Speaker 7: I don't think it was a nunnery. Basically, it's a

1254
01:05:25,680 --> 01:05:30,720
Speaker 7: huge historical place and they have all these pictures on

1255
01:05:30,760 --> 01:05:34,320
Speaker 7: the wall, and one picture was of all the nuns

1256
01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:37,240
Speaker 7: that were going there like one year. There's like maybe

1257
01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:39,120
Speaker 7: like over one hundred of them. And I think it

1258
01:05:39,160 --> 01:05:43,120
Speaker 7: was like it was one of those like standard colleges

1259
01:05:43,240 --> 01:05:45,320
Speaker 7: where there was like another photo where like a nun

1260
01:05:45,640 --> 01:05:47,920
Speaker 7: was like next to like a chemistry set. So I

1261
01:05:47,960 --> 01:05:52,320
Speaker 7: think it was a teaching school for nuns to become

1262
01:05:52,480 --> 01:05:56,600
Speaker 7: teachers and go off to other like Christian, Catholic schools

1263
01:05:56,640 --> 01:05:58,040
Speaker 7: or whatever to teach.

1264
01:05:58,680 --> 01:06:02,000
Speaker 1: Got it okay? But were there any nune goes?

1265
01:06:03,400 --> 01:06:08,040
Speaker 7: There was? We did a K two slash audio thing

1266
01:06:08,440 --> 01:06:12,959
Speaker 7: and there was one ghost that claimed to be a nun.

1267
01:06:13,560 --> 01:06:16,040
Speaker 7: And basically we also had a couple of psychics who

1268
01:06:16,080 --> 01:06:18,520
Speaker 7: would come visit on some investigations and they claimed that

1269
01:06:18,560 --> 01:06:22,440
Speaker 7: the classroom that we were in used to be a

1270
01:06:22,480 --> 01:06:26,439
Speaker 7: breakroom for the nuns. So there was apparently a nun

1271
01:06:26,680 --> 01:06:30,959
Speaker 7: that was there on the breakroom. There was also reports

1272
01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:35,560
Speaker 7: of a nun that was in the like the top tier.

1273
01:06:35,720 --> 01:06:37,640
Speaker 7: It's a coffee shop that used to be like an

1274
01:06:37,720 --> 01:06:41,360
Speaker 7: attic of the college. But those are just like rumors

1275
01:06:41,360 --> 01:06:44,720
Speaker 7: and reports, and while investigating, we didn't get to experience

1276
01:06:45,560 --> 01:06:48,160
Speaker 7: seeing a nun. But a lot of students who were

1277
01:06:48,840 --> 01:06:51,760
Speaker 7: investigating in the club claimed to be sensitive and they

1278
01:06:51,800 --> 01:06:55,680
Speaker 7: could like see things, hear things. Whenever we did EVPs,

1279
01:06:55,800 --> 01:06:58,880
Speaker 7: there were a lot of audio, some of which were

1280
01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:03,440
Speaker 7: like normal, just like yes or no, but some of

1281
01:07:03,440 --> 01:07:08,440
Speaker 7: them were very dark. Actually it sounded like demonic, like

1282
01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:12,840
Speaker 7: really yeah. So it was this one girl was asking

1283
01:07:12,960 --> 01:07:17,600
Speaker 7: questions and this one person who this one ghosts who

1284
01:07:17,640 --> 01:07:22,120
Speaker 7: responded just like a deep, rasp beat voice and would

1285
01:07:22,160 --> 01:07:26,000
Speaker 7: respond with like really harsh like yes or no, And

1286
01:07:26,080 --> 01:07:29,640
Speaker 7: it seems a little bit malicious in tone. I don't

1287
01:07:29,680 --> 01:07:31,680
Speaker 7: know if he just had like a smoker's voice or whatever,

1288
01:07:31,840 --> 01:07:32,720
Speaker 7: but I.

1289
01:07:32,720 --> 01:07:36,200
Speaker 1: Mean it could be a smoky nun, I know exactly,

1290
01:07:36,240 --> 01:07:42,760
Speaker 1: like you know, it's been hot, yeah, these kids, Well,

1291
01:07:42,880 --> 01:07:46,040
Speaker 1: because I'm obsessed with, you know, Catholic stuff, and I

1292
01:07:46,120 --> 01:07:49,040
Speaker 1: like the movie The None. To me, it's like I

1293
01:07:49,040 --> 01:07:51,880
Speaker 1: think that's such a great concept. That's just like this

1294
01:07:52,040 --> 01:07:57,400
Speaker 1: demon that's posing as a nun. That's amazing. What you

1295
01:07:57,400 --> 01:07:59,520
Speaker 1: should here's what you should do next time you investigate

1296
01:07:59,560 --> 01:08:03,840
Speaker 1: that place. You should play the Sister X soundtrack. Oh my,

1297
01:08:03,960 --> 01:08:05,240
Speaker 1: see what happens?

1298
01:08:06,920 --> 01:08:09,080
Speaker 7: I was actually listening to that the other day. That's

1299
01:08:09,080 --> 01:08:13,200
Speaker 7: so funny. Brought that up. I think it would just

1300
01:08:13,280 --> 01:08:16,040
Speaker 7: rarely turn into like a ghost musical and all the

1301
01:08:16,080 --> 01:08:18,200
Speaker 7: kids would start dancing, and then it would be like

1302
01:08:18,240 --> 01:08:21,080
Speaker 7: the end of Beatlehooes where all like the football players

1303
01:08:21,160 --> 01:08:23,120
Speaker 7: except nuns would just start dancing.

1304
01:08:23,560 --> 01:08:26,360
Speaker 1: Yes, and then you float up into the air. Oh

1305
01:08:26,479 --> 01:08:33,559
Speaker 1: I love that bucket sounds amazing. I've been ghosted too special.

1306
01:08:33,640 --> 01:08:41,040
Speaker 1: Thank you to our incredible listeners Caitlin, Pony, Rachel and Kyle. Again,

1307
01:08:41,120 --> 01:08:43,760
Speaker 1: I would love to have you beyond the show if

1308
01:08:43,800 --> 01:08:46,000
Speaker 1: you got a ghost story to tell, so please email

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