WEBVTT - Broken Rhymes w/ Wyclef Jean

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<v Speaker 1>Of the Law and Order franchises, SVU is considered especially watchable.

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<v Speaker 2>We are the amateur detectives who kind of investigate the

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<v Speaker 2>vicious felonies.

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<v Speaker 3>These episodes are based on.

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<v Speaker 4>These are our stories done dun.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, Welcome to That's Messed Up, an SVU podcast. My

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<v Speaker 2>name is Lisa Traeger and my name is Kara Klink,

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<v Speaker 2>And you know what this is.

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<v Speaker 1>This is an SVU podcast where we break down an

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<v Speaker 1>episode of our favorite show, Law and Order SVU and

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<v Speaker 1>then we talk about the true Cremo is based on

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<v Speaker 1>an interview an actor from the show.

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<v Speaker 2>And like always, our guest is phenomenal and we're pretty

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<v Speaker 2>great in this episode as well, So be.

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<v Speaker 1>Ready buckle the fuck up. So what's going on with you, Lisa?

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<v Speaker 2>I have a question, And this might be delusional and insane,

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<v Speaker 2>but do you think Taylor Swift is listening to this podcast?

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<v Speaker 5>No?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't, but I don't. I do think it's possible

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<v Speaker 1>that she could one day.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I know she's a huge fan, but I don't know, Like,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know what her podcasting thing is. Does Taylor

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<v Speaker 4>Shift talk about podcasts? Does she listen? I mean, she

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<v Speaker 4>might just be writing songs all day.

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<v Speaker 2>She also does not follow anyone on Instagram, not that

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<v Speaker 2>she would go and follow us on Instagram, but I

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<v Speaker 2>did check. I did check, and I don't know why.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's because I've been listening to Willow over

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<v Speaker 2>and over again. But she named one of her cats

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<v Speaker 2>Olivia Benson, like.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, and I think that like when if we get

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<v Speaker 1>Mrshca Hargeta one day, Taylor will probably tune in because

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<v Speaker 1>they're like friends. The bad Blood video, I mean, but

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<v Speaker 1>that is that's a great goal. I think if you're

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<v Speaker 1>a swifty out there, please write to Taylor tag her

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<v Speaker 1>about our podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>I only made fun of her one time on television

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<v Speaker 2>only once.

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<v Speaker 4>Well now they're not gonna, oh yeah, cut it out.

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<v Speaker 4>But I know she is.

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<v Speaker 1>I know she is a massive fan and we would

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<v Speaker 1>love for her too listen to us.

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<v Speaker 4>But I just don't know if she I mean, in

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<v Speaker 4>my mind she's always in like.

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<v Speaker 1>An oversized sweater with like a cup of tea, writing

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<v Speaker 1>songs by a fireplace in Nashville or something.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't really know she's in London right now.

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<v Speaker 2>I think with her man, but also she's probably getting

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<v Speaker 2>her steps in. There's no fucking way that Taylor doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>need to get steps in and what if she is

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<v Speaker 2>listening to the pod?

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<v Speaker 3>You're right.

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<v Speaker 2>I just if Taylor, if you're listening, give us a sign.

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<v Speaker 3>That's it. I've seen you in concert.

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<v Speaker 4>Send us a message from your finsta. I know you

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<v Speaker 4>have one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I went to your show at Staples Center

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<v Speaker 2>the nineteen eighty nine tour.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it was amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>But the funniest part was Beck and Saint Vincent came

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<v Speaker 2>out and I've never seen an arena of teens be

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<v Speaker 2>more pissed off.

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<v Speaker 4>They're like, where the fuck is Selena Gomez?

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<v Speaker 1>You know what's funny? This was reminding me of this.

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<v Speaker 1>I lived in Italy, like after college for a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>I lived in Rome and there was this enormous concert

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<v Speaker 1>at the Circus Maximus and it was like some kind

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<v Speaker 1>of global like, well, let's all get together. All these

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<v Speaker 1>artists were there, Oprah was there. She came out and

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<v Speaker 1>all my Italian friends were.

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<v Speaker 4>Like, who is that? And it's like it was really

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<v Speaker 4>It reminded me because I.

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<v Speaker 1>Was thinking about it this week because of the Harry

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<v Speaker 1>and Megan interview that was, you know, so huge, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was just like it was really hard to explain.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, she's like a talk show host, like,

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<v Speaker 1>but their talk shows are weird and different. They're not

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<v Speaker 1>like the same. So I was like, she talks to

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<v Speaker 1>people about their problems, Like it was really hard to explain,

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<v Speaker 1>Like who Oprah is? And I was like, she is

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<v Speaker 1>the most famous person we have. I cannot believe you

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<v Speaker 1>don't know who she is. I mean this was in

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<v Speaker 1>like two thousand and four or something, so maybe what.

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<v Speaker 3>Concert was it?

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<v Speaker 1>It was kind of like a band aid like like

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<v Speaker 1>we are the World type of like it was some

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<v Speaker 1>kind of global citizen concert.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you remember any of the musicians or just Oprah

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<v Speaker 2>took your breath away and you couldn't even focus just Oprah.

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<v Speaker 4>That was huge.

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<v Speaker 1>There were famous bands there, but I don't remember, but

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<v Speaker 1>I remember that my friend's not knowing who Oprah was.

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<v Speaker 2>So I went to the Oprah Show when I was

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<v Speaker 2>in high school and it was exciting. It was the

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<v Speaker 2>Dance with Me episode, so we got to go to

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<v Speaker 2>the movies, get snacks, we got a box lunch, and

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<v Speaker 2>then went to the Oprah Show.

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<v Speaker 3>Sule, this is.

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<v Speaker 1>A fucking this is a dream for you. I can't

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<v Speaker 1>believe you've never told me about that. Oh yeah, j Lo,

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<v Speaker 1>Susan Saran and Richard Gear interviews. I was with my

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<v Speaker 1>mom and sister, but it became dramatic because I missed

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<v Speaker 1>swim practice to go to Oprah.

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<v Speaker 2>And so the next day at practice, my coach was like,

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<v Speaker 2>what the fuck you were supposed to be at practice?

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<v Speaker 2>I go, no, I told you I had tickets to

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<v Speaker 2>Oprah and he said, yeah, but you said you'd try

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<v Speaker 2>to make it, and I have had the same personality

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<v Speaker 2>for a while, so I said, yeah, I tried. The

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<v Speaker 2>show went long. What you want me to take a

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<v Speaker 2>private jet to practice? And he said, you know what,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sick of your attitude and so is everyone else.

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<v Speaker 2>And I said, I'm the fucking sick of you. And

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<v Speaker 2>I quit the swim team two weeks before senior meet.

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<v Speaker 2>I had swam all year round for years, and then

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<v Speaker 2>the two weeks before like final conferences and presents and accolades.

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<v Speaker 4>I was just like, go fuck yourself, bro, Well it

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<v Speaker 4>sounds like.

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<v Speaker 1>He was disrespecting you, and he was disrespecting Oprah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Jason, go fuck yourself.

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<v Speaker 5>Kara.

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<v Speaker 6>This concert in Rome was called We Are the Future

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<v Speaker 6>Oprah welcomed everybody. Alicia Keys was at it, Is that correct,

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<v Speaker 6>Carla Santana Nur Jones.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, oh my god, man, I can't.

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<v Speaker 6>It was in May seventeenth, two thousand and four. H Yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>Andrew Bacelli saying Naomi Campbell was there, Angelina Jolee, Quincy Jones.

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<v Speaker 4>We were very far back.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, like this Circus Bactmis is big, like it

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<v Speaker 1>was kind of like a drinking, smoking, hanging out type

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<v Speaker 1>of things.

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<v Speaker 4>We were like kind of far back.

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<v Speaker 1>And I remember Alicia Keys being there for sure, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's wild.

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<v Speaker 5>Wow.

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<v Speaker 6>I remember Quincy Jones too. It was a benefit for children.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, and it seemed like my Italian friend more knew

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<v Speaker 1>who Quincy Jones was than.

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<v Speaker 4>Oprah, and I was like, how the fuck do you

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<v Speaker 4>not know who Oprah is?

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<v Speaker 5>Wow?

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<v Speaker 4>Hannah, she just brought me back to that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>She was kind of like an SVU therapist that recovers memories. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>that was wild. Did you cry when Andrea? But I

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<v Speaker 2>can't say his same.

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<v Speaker 4>But she met Andrea Bocelli before what.

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<v Speaker 1>I worked at the two thousand and six Olympics in

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<v Speaker 1>to Reno, and I worked for the Today Show and

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<v Speaker 1>he was on the Today Show. So I was like

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<v Speaker 1>escorting him and he was with his wife, who, by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, was just kind of dragging him around like

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<v Speaker 1>there were steps. I was like, be careful, you can't

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<v Speaker 1>see like she was just kind of pulling him.

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, I don't know. He had to take

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<v Speaker 4>him downstairs into this green room and she just felt like.

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<v Speaker 1>She was not being sensitive to his can I admit

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<v Speaker 1>I only found out he was blind this year.

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<v Speaker 6>Hannah, Wait, our engineer just texted, Wait, he's blind.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait.

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<v Speaker 4>People don't know that.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow? No, just Hannah and an Elis don't. The rest

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<v Speaker 3>of the world does.

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<v Speaker 1>So I met him and he was very nice. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>hearing him sing is amazing. He's really out of this world.

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<v Speaker 2>And you have you texted me about this, but then

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<v Speaker 2>we didn't get into details.

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<v Speaker 1>So I just thought this might be relevant for our audience.

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<v Speaker 1>I this week had the opportunity to go and take

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<v Speaker 1>a tour of the house in Los Angeles where the

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<v Speaker 1>LaBianca family was murdered by the Manson family.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like a.

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<v Speaker 1>Notorious house in LA It's a for sale right now.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was able to go look at it with

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<v Speaker 1>a friend who was looking at it and it was

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<v Speaker 1>just like, oh, like I just walked in and was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I was trying to feel the spirits.

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<v Speaker 3>What's the price? Like is it cheaper because of the murders?

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<v Speaker 2>Do they have to make sure creeps who aren't obsessed

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<v Speaker 2>with the Manson family don't buy it?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, I actually thought that the murder might

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<v Speaker 1>actually make it worth more. But it is the thing

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<v Speaker 1>with the house is that it's on a gorgeous piece

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<v Speaker 1>of land, like almost three hundred and sixty degree views

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<v Speaker 1>of la Like beautiful, beautiful piece of land.

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<v Speaker 4>The house needs work.

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<v Speaker 1>So you can only you know, you can only ask

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<v Speaker 1>so much when like you need to do some work

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<v Speaker 1>to the house, so I don't know, like you can

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<v Speaker 1>redfit it.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean it's like I think they want two million.

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<v Speaker 3>And was your friend interested.

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<v Speaker 4>In buying it? They might want to buy it.

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<v Speaker 3>Damn, we should do a seance.

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<v Speaker 4>I know. If they buy it, for sure, we're weig boarding.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm scared, but you know, I really want to meet

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<v Speaker 4>a ghost. I do know that.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you feel any vibes?

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<v Speaker 4>No?

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't, But I don't know if I'm attuned to

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<v Speaker 1>that the way you are, Like I didn't feel any vibes.

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<v Speaker 1>But I was definitely trying to like picture it or not,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that sounds bad. I was definitely trying to like

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<v Speaker 1>be like, oh my gosh, like where did it happen?

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<v Speaker 4>Like, because they are the most.

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<v Speaker 1>The tate murders and stuff, you could almost do they

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<v Speaker 1>They've almost connected it to like how people knew Charlie

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<v Speaker 1>Manson and he had maybe been to that house before

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<v Speaker 1>or and maybe he was trying to send a message

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<v Speaker 1>about Hollywood and stuff like that. You know, like that

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<v Speaker 1>didn't seem completely random. The Labiancas seemed like very random.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just like a couple in their home that

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<v Speaker 1>were murdered.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's like so scary to me.

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<v Speaker 2>There wasn't like someone in his family didn't hate them

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<v Speaker 2>for some weird reason.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So I don't think there was a connection to

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<v Speaker 1>the Manson family in the house. I think there was

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<v Speaker 1>maybe something where he had been next door, which, by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, speaking of next door, there's some house that's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of near this house that it's a retirement home

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<v Speaker 1>for monks or convent or something that Katy Perry is

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<v Speaker 1>allegedly buying. And I've actually heard a lot about this

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<v Speaker 1>on another podcasts. I listened to that Katy Perry has

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<v Speaker 1>been having a lot of issues moving into this monastery

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<v Speaker 1>slash convent that she bought in.

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<v Speaker 2>La but they didn't want to sell it to her.

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<v Speaker 2>I heard she just like, is like I want this monastery.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's that like very veruk assault of her. And

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<v Speaker 2>before we get into SVW and crime and all of that,

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<v Speaker 2>I do want to remind everyone we do have merch.

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<v Speaker 4>And you should buy it because yes, I'm moving back.

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<v Speaker 3>To labbing up.

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<v Speaker 1>It's warming up where you live. I'm sure everyone's posting.

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<v Speaker 1>New York was like sixty two degrees this week. Get

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<v Speaker 1>one of these hopping tank tops, it's so soft and lovely.

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<v Speaker 1>Get a pin, get a mug, get a tumbler, let's

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<v Speaker 1>get a sweatshirt.

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<v Speaker 2>Come on, guys, Yeah, and then tag us if you

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<v Speaker 2>wear or use anything, because we love attention. So that's

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<v Speaker 2>all our scoop Taylor Swift reach out. And now it's

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<v Speaker 2>time to dive right into SVU Baby. So this episode

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<v Speaker 2>is Broken Rhymes Season eighteen, episode six. It is a

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<v Speaker 2>tough one, I would say, gut wrenching, but also great fashion.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, let's get into it. We start the

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<v Speaker 2>episode in a nude model art class, which is thrilling,

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<v Speaker 2>and the teacher's babbling and there's two cool girls talking

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<v Speaker 2>and one of them is like, I'd.

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<v Speaker 4>Rather bang him than draw him. I immediately like her.

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<v Speaker 2>She has a fake tattoo, choker necklace, and a pixie cut,

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<v Speaker 2>so she is alternative. And then the other girl, the

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<v Speaker 2>other girl leaves early for a lunch date.

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<v Speaker 3>So we're like, oh, what's going on.

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<v Speaker 1>And must be a pretty hot lunch date to rip

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<v Speaker 1>yourself away from this adonnis that we're being that we're

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<v Speaker 1>sitting here drawing. So one of the cool girls leaves

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<v Speaker 1>for lunch and she's trying on necklaces and it's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like an indoor, bizarre type lunch place.

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<v Speaker 3>And I feel like I've been there when my friend

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<v Speaker 3>from London.

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<v Speaker 1>Visited, but I was trying to think of where that was.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I've never been to anything like that

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<v Speaker 1>in New York, but.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel it's Lower East Side. I feel like I've

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<v Speaker 2>been there, but I don't who knows. So she has

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<v Speaker 2>a green bomber jacket on gold shoes. She's looking cool,

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<v Speaker 2>and then it looks like she's waiting for someone to

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<v Speaker 2>meet her at lunch and she sees a sign for

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<v Speaker 2>a bathroom and she decides to go to the bathroom.

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<v Speaker 3>And once there's.

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<v Speaker 2>A close up of someone locking the stall door, you

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<v Speaker 2>know something terrible is about to happen.

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<v Speaker 4>And it does.

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<v Speaker 2>And what's cool, it's very twenty twenty twenty one ish.

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<v Speaker 2>She takes out butt wipes and like starts wiping down stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>So I kind of enjoyed that. It's like, yeah, I've

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<v Speaker 2>never done that Lisa Renna's style. There's also a rug

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<v Speaker 2>in the bathroom, which I've never seen in a public restaurant, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>who is changing out the rugs?

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<v Speaker 1>I would wager to say, that's not okay.

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<v Speaker 4>We can't.

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<v Speaker 2>So we see a guy with a pipe walk into

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<v Speaker 2>the bathroom, very scary and he's just standing there, and

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<v Speaker 2>then of course we see a woman in the bathroom

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<v Speaker 2>start to get attacked by this man with the pipe,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's not great.

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<v Speaker 4>Now we are in the crime scene.

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<v Speaker 2>Benson's there, Rollins is there, There's a uniform police officer

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<v Speaker 2>and she hands over the driver's license and the VIC

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<v Speaker 2>is transgender. We find out, like we probably assumed that

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<v Speaker 2>the victim did get attacked with the pipe, she was

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<v Speaker 2>beaten and sexually assaulted and this happened in the bathroom,

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<v Speaker 2>and yeah, is it a hate crime?

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<v Speaker 4>And dune done, it's the fucking credits. Dun done. It's

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<v Speaker 4>the fucking credits.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're back and we meet this mom and daughter

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<v Speaker 2>duo and they walked into the bathroom and found the victim.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a Karen style type blonde woman who is so rude,

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<v Speaker 2>such a bitch. I just hated her so much and

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<v Speaker 2>she's being rude. She's like, oh is it a her

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<v Speaker 2>or a hym? I don't know whatever? Fuck that, like

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<v Speaker 2>just she didn't say fuck obviously it's NBC. But she's

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<v Speaker 2>being so rude, and the mom, like the daughter's trying

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<v Speaker 2>to be compassionate, like the daughter is maybe a and

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<v Speaker 2>wants to help and just sees humans as humans, and

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<v Speaker 2>this mom is like, shut up Sophie and like, won't

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<v Speaker 2>let Sophie tell the truth, and she keeps shutting her

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<v Speaker 2>up and interrupting her, and Benson and Rollins are trying

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<v Speaker 2>to communicate and the mom is just like, my daughter's

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<v Speaker 2>too young for this.

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<v Speaker 3>Shut up.

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<v Speaker 2>But we do get the information that there was a

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<v Speaker 2>guy running away who was black in his late twenties

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<v Speaker 2>early thirties.

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<v Speaker 4>I think he had blood on his clothes. Oh my god. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>Sophie says, the guy was big.

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<v Speaker 2>She doesn't know anything else, and Benson is being sarcastic

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<v Speaker 2>as fuck when she walks away and is like, thanks

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<v Speaker 2>for your time.

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<v Speaker 4>Bitch again does not swear it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Bac but she then the mom continues to say it

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<v Speaker 2>was a matter of time before something like this happened.

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<v Speaker 2>Why can't people use the bathroom they were born into?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it that fucking hard?

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<v Speaker 1>I I mean, the idea that people are born into

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<v Speaker 1>a certain bathroom is the craziest philosophy I've ever heard

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<v Speaker 1>in my life.

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<v Speaker 4>Like what are you talking about?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Like I feel like we all just used to

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<v Speaker 2>piss on each other in a hut, Like what are

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<v Speaker 2>you talking about?

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<v Speaker 4>Like when they pulled my baby out, They're like, it's

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<v Speaker 4>a girl's room.

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<v Speaker 1>Like no, It's like it's so crazy, like that were

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<v Speaker 1>born with like a bathroom assignment.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just and I feel very ahead of the times

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<v Speaker 2>because when I was nineteen twenty, I worked at a

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<v Speaker 2>hair salon that had unisex bathrooms.

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<v Speaker 4>That's amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>And when I was in elementary school, well, I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like I used to use the boys bathroom all the time.

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<v Speaker 4>If there was a shorter line.

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<v Speaker 1>I've used the men's bathroom a million times in my

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<v Speaker 1>life and I shouldn't get murdered for it.

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<v Speaker 2>No, nobody should. And this is fucked up. So we're

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<v Speaker 2>at the hospital. It reminded me of Big Sick Vibes.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you've seen that movie, but like

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<v Speaker 2>with the Parents, and I have seen it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, you are good friends with the stars.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So the victim is Eva. She's an art student from

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<v Speaker 2>New Jersey and very fucked up. She's in the hospital

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<v Speaker 2>and she's lucky to be alive. Benson is clear this

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<v Speaker 2>is a hate crime, and she's talking to the parents

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<v Speaker 2>and seeing if there's any relationship issues, any scoop from them.

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<v Speaker 2>And there is a boyfriend named Logan, and they broke up.

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<v Speaker 2>I got back together last week, but they've been fighting

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<v Speaker 2>because he thought she was seeing somebody else.

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<v Speaker 3>YadA, YadA. They're at Logan's office.

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously he is a lawyer, and they find very mean

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<v Speaker 2>text between them. Very Katie and Tom from vander Pomp.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, sometimes when people fight, they don't fight fair.

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<v Speaker 2>But Logan didn't like that. Eva was modeling and partying

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<v Speaker 2>and going to clubs and being super cool, but her

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<v Speaker 2>agency fired her last Thursday from Panda Club because of

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<v Speaker 2>an altercation she had. I want to go to Panda Club,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll be honest. So they head to the bar to

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<v Speaker 2>get scoop about what happened on Thursday and the altercation,

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<v Speaker 2>and the bar manager comic book nerd looking man, he

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<v Speaker 2>is a jerk too. It's like everyone they talk to

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<v Speaker 2>to help with this case is a fucking asshole.

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<v Speaker 3>Like so this guy is like, oh god.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you can't even look at a trans person

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<v Speaker 2>without getting fired.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm minded my business, you can't even And.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just like you obviously deserve to get fired.

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<v Speaker 4>Like I it bothers me so much, just like treat

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<v Speaker 4>people like their people.

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<v Speaker 1>And then honestly, he kind of he's sort of like

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<v Speaker 1>racist too. He's like, I don't really get into the

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<v Speaker 1>hip hop thing, Like you're like, okay, you are you?

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<v Speaker 1>Just like he's like, I like country music. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>so just white stuff for you?

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<v Speaker 4>Got it? Not that I don't like.

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<v Speaker 1>Country music, but you do not. I love country music?

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<v Speaker 1>You like Dolly and Casey. Yeah, but I also love

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<v Speaker 1>the Chicks. I also love Garth Brooks. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>like a lot of country, but I don't listen to

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<v Speaker 1>like contemporary country. Besides, Casey, you're right, but I also

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<v Speaker 1>love hip hop like I love hip hop. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just saying, this person, this guy running this place, is

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<v Speaker 1>making it very clear who he is.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, So there is video footage from that evening and

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<v Speaker 2>we see Eva slapping a man on camera, and Iced

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<v Speaker 2>Tea with all his insight, goes that slap looks personal.

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<v Speaker 2>So we go to the precinct and Eva is still

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<v Speaker 2>on life support.

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<v Speaker 3>It doesn't look good.

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<v Speaker 2>So the man being slapped, he was on the guest

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<v Speaker 2>list to come to this party. And the guest list

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<v Speaker 2>belongs to Vincent Love, who is a big record man.

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<v Speaker 2>And guess who plays him? Fucking y Clevjeon, Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he's like a music ceo.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like a La Reid type, you know, like a

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<v Speaker 1>hit maker kind of guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Hopefully La Read is not so evil. Let's well know,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, I'm just saying, let's hope La Reid has

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit more compassion and humanity. And Vincent says

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<v Speaker 2>that he got Eva kicked out for slapping Hype.

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<v Speaker 3>Hype is his new artist. He's straight out of the hood.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think why Clef in this episode is one

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<v Speaker 2>of the best dressed characters and most expensive that we've

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<v Speaker 2>ever seen. It's like cool sweaters, suit coats, patterns, It's

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<v Speaker 2>just he looks fucking rich. Yeah, it's really great costuming.

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<v Speaker 2>He does not give a shit. Eva's in a coma.

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<v Speaker 2>He is the best actor. I don't know what it is.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, hmm okay, I guess that's upsetting.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I don't have the word for it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like so cocky, fake gesture, fake sarcastic like it's

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<v Speaker 2>it is really loose and goofy for what is happening.

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<v Speaker 2>And he just starts talking about Hype and how they're

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<v Speaker 2>working on this new album and he even made a

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<v Speaker 2>and so basically he's saying that Hype made a joke

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<v Speaker 2>that Eva didn't like and so Eva slapped him.

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<v Speaker 3>So of course they have to visit Hype. Let's keep

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<v Speaker 3>it moving.

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<v Speaker 2>So they visit Hype and a man in a tank

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<v Speaker 2>top with giant muscles and gold chains opens the door,

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<v Speaker 2>and this is one of my favorite exchanges. Carisey's in

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<v Speaker 2>a suit and he goes, so, this is the thing

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<v Speaker 2>he says, Zignia for the says.

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<v Speaker 4>I think he's talking about Emerald.

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<v Speaker 3>It is Zanya okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I listened to him say it so many times, then

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<v Speaker 2>went to Google Translate and nothing was matching up and

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<v Speaker 2>it was so hard. And yeah, so he goes Zania Armani,

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<v Speaker 2>and then Carisi goes Caprizzio. He lives. He lives two

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<v Speaker 2>blocks away from where I grew up in Staten Island,

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<v Speaker 2>and I just love how much they beat us over

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<v Speaker 2>the head that he's an Italian good boy.

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<v Speaker 1>But also the suit is not that nice looking. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like a brown shit colored suit. It's like, do you

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<v Speaker 1>think he was fucking with him?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I think he was totally shading him for not

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<v Speaker 2>having a good suit.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and so so Crisy just came back and was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I know it's shitty, Bye, I got work to do.

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<v Speaker 3>So Hype is.

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<v Speaker 2>Wearing all white and he looks hot. Hype is awful.

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<v Speaker 2>He calls Eva freak and they said, like, go arrest him.

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<v Speaker 4>He slapped me.

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<v Speaker 2>But when they say that Eva's in a coma, you

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<v Speaker 2>can tell he's surprise, shocked, sad.

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<v Speaker 3>There's more to this. They know each other.

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<v Speaker 2>Like he's trying to play it off like he didn't care,

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<v Speaker 2>but we're SV professionals, we know he fucking cared.

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<v Speaker 3>But he keeps.

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<v Speaker 2>Misgendering her and saying he made jokes, and she got pissed.

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<v Speaker 2>So Hype is saying he's never seen Eva before, and

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<v Speaker 2>the man with the gold chains and the muscles says, listen,

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<v Speaker 2>we got to lay down some tracks, so please leave.

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<v Speaker 4>And that guy's name is Cash. He's important, and that

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<v Speaker 4>name is on his birth certificate. If you're wondering, I

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<v Speaker 4>saw it.

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<v Speaker 2>So they're back at the precinct and the whole gang

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<v Speaker 2>is there, and Amanda finds a clue. Someone posted on

0:20:56.119 --> 0:20:59.440
<v Speaker 2>Instagram a photo of Hype outside of Cypress Market. Even

0:20:59.480 --> 0:21:00.919
<v Speaker 2>though he said he was in the studio all day,

0:21:00.960 --> 0:21:02.920
<v Speaker 2>he's clearly lying and he was at the fucking scene

0:21:02.920 --> 0:21:05.520
<v Speaker 2>of the crime. So they bring in Hype for questioning,

0:21:05.560 --> 0:21:07.120
<v Speaker 2>like why are you lying? Why were you here?

0:21:07.240 --> 0:21:09.360
<v Speaker 3>Why you know she got attacked? Like what's going on?

0:21:09.840 --> 0:21:13.320
<v Speaker 2>And then Careesi starts rapping Hype's lyrics to him, it's

0:21:15.640 --> 0:21:18.080
<v Speaker 2>just the idea of him rapping since Kara into a

0:21:18.119 --> 0:21:18.800
<v Speaker 2>giggle storm.

0:21:18.880 --> 0:21:19.400
<v Speaker 3>I love it.

0:21:21.280 --> 0:21:23.639
<v Speaker 4>I respect all of the listeners who have a boner

0:21:23.760 --> 0:21:26.720
<v Speaker 4>for Careesi. I cannot. I cannot myself muster one.

0:21:27.240 --> 0:21:29.879
<v Speaker 1>But like, he just is such a door, like reading

0:21:29.960 --> 0:21:32.400
<v Speaker 1>these rap lyrics, but I get I get why.

0:21:32.200 --> 0:21:33.640
<v Speaker 4>He's doing it. It's important.

0:21:34.040 --> 0:21:35.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:21:35.600 --> 0:21:38.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the lyrics are like very transphobic and about killing

0:21:38.920 --> 0:21:42.239
<v Speaker 2>trans people and they're just like very hateful raps. And

0:21:42.280 --> 0:21:44.280
<v Speaker 2>then they show him the picture outside the market to

0:21:44.320 --> 0:21:46.080
<v Speaker 2>prove that he's lying, and he goes, yeah, I stepped

0:21:46.080 --> 0:21:48.720
<v Speaker 2>out for lunch, like what's the big deal and CARESI

0:21:48.800 --> 0:21:51.320
<v Speaker 2>does the classic cop game where it's like, you know,

0:21:51.359 --> 0:21:53.320
<v Speaker 2>if you lie to us, we can't we can't do

0:21:53.359 --> 0:21:53.919
<v Speaker 2>anything for you.

0:21:53.960 --> 0:21:55.679
<v Speaker 3>If you tell us the truth will help you.

0:21:56.359 --> 0:21:59.240
<v Speaker 2>Hype is like, I did not touch that person, and

0:21:59.320 --> 0:22:01.239
<v Speaker 2>Ice teammates, that's a great point. He's like, what do

0:22:01.280 --> 0:22:03.840
<v Speaker 2>you mean You're gonna let this chick slap you in

0:22:03.880 --> 0:22:06.720
<v Speaker 2>front of all of your boys and you're gonna think

0:22:06.760 --> 0:22:10.200
<v Speaker 2>it's okay? And I fucking love Hype's answer here he goes,

0:22:10.520 --> 0:22:13.159
<v Speaker 2>you think being slapped is going to demasculate me? Or

0:22:13.320 --> 0:22:15.000
<v Speaker 2>like I don't give a fuck, And I just love

0:22:15.040 --> 0:22:17.240
<v Speaker 2>that answer where it's like you're not going to play

0:22:17.280 --> 0:22:20.760
<v Speaker 2>your you know, toxic masculinity games with me. I'm a

0:22:20.800 --> 0:22:22.919
<v Speaker 2>fucking man, and I don't have to prove shit. If

0:22:22.920 --> 0:22:25.040
<v Speaker 2>a chick wants to slap me, she gets to slap me.

0:22:25.480 --> 0:22:28.560
<v Speaker 2>And so I just found that very profound. And the

0:22:28.640 --> 0:22:32.640
<v Speaker 2>thing is, this market is only two blocks away from

0:22:32.640 --> 0:22:35.080
<v Speaker 2>the studio and he eats lunch there all the fucking time,

0:22:35.520 --> 0:22:39.679
<v Speaker 2>so it could be a total coincidence. Amanda and Olivia

0:22:39.680 --> 0:22:42.240
<v Speaker 2>are talking behind the two way mirror of this investigation

0:22:42.320 --> 0:22:44.239
<v Speaker 2>and they know he is lying about something, but they

0:22:44.240 --> 0:22:47.320
<v Speaker 2>can't figure it out. And then some amazing work from Rollins,

0:22:47.400 --> 0:22:50.919
<v Speaker 2>Hype isn't the only one lying. Security cameras catch Logan

0:22:51.080 --> 0:22:55.000
<v Speaker 2>lying and that's Eva's boyfriend from earlier. He actually took

0:22:55.000 --> 0:22:57.520
<v Speaker 2>a long ass lunch from eleven thirty to one forty five.

0:22:57.960 --> 0:23:00.800
<v Speaker 2>And then Bence, I love this exchange. I don't know

0:23:00.800 --> 0:23:02.880
<v Speaker 2>if I'm reading into things that aren't there at all.

0:23:03.400 --> 0:23:06.879
<v Speaker 2>But Benson goes, that's not a quick lunch, and Rollins goes,

0:23:07.119 --> 0:23:09.120
<v Speaker 2>unless you're in Italy and Benson goes.

0:23:09.000 --> 0:23:14.439
<v Speaker 3>Well he's not. And I don't know, it's just it's cute.

0:23:15.480 --> 0:23:17.720
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's a really dorky joke. But it's true. They

0:23:17.800 --> 0:23:19.439
<v Speaker 4>do take long lunches in Italy.

0:23:20.000 --> 0:23:21.600
<v Speaker 3>So where were's Logan?

0:23:22.320 --> 0:23:26.159
<v Speaker 2>Logan was meeting with a midtown doctor and it's doctor Kenzit,

0:23:26.200 --> 0:23:28.840
<v Speaker 2>who's going to do surgery for Eva for her transition,

0:23:29.280 --> 0:23:31.119
<v Speaker 2>but she changed her mind and he was trying to

0:23:31.119 --> 0:23:34.560
<v Speaker 2>get his five thousand dollars deposit back, and basically he

0:23:34.600 --> 0:23:37.000
<v Speaker 2>explains that she was seeing a guy that liked her

0:23:37.080 --> 0:23:39.800
<v Speaker 2>just the way she was, and that she didn't want

0:23:39.800 --> 0:23:40.760
<v Speaker 2>surgery anymore.

0:23:41.280 --> 0:23:43.199
<v Speaker 4>And it's also like, Logan, maybe you should like her

0:23:43.200 --> 0:23:43.800
<v Speaker 4>the way she is.

0:23:43.880 --> 0:23:46.280
<v Speaker 3>But anyways, so they ask.

0:23:46.200 --> 0:23:49.320
<v Speaker 2>If Logan knows who this guy that Eva is seeing is,

0:23:49.880 --> 0:23:52.879
<v Speaker 2>and he does not, but he saw them in the

0:23:52.960 --> 0:23:55.840
<v Speaker 2>park together and he took photos.

0:23:56.040 --> 0:23:58.520
<v Speaker 4>Who's in the photo in the park? Fucking cash Lewis,

0:23:58.560 --> 0:23:59.520
<v Speaker 4>what is going on?

0:24:00.280 --> 0:24:03.000
<v Speaker 2>So cash Lewis they have to go talk to him,

0:24:03.040 --> 0:24:05.159
<v Speaker 2>see what's going on. And he's eating the whole time

0:24:05.200 --> 0:24:07.280
<v Speaker 2>they're questioning him, and I love a man that's committed

0:24:07.280 --> 0:24:09.400
<v Speaker 2>to lunch like this. He is not taking a break.

0:24:09.760 --> 0:24:11.520
<v Speaker 2>He is eating the whole time, and he has orange

0:24:11.600 --> 0:24:14.720
<v Speaker 2>soda and I want orange soda so fucking bad right now.

0:24:15.640 --> 0:24:19.040
<v Speaker 2>So he says that he met Eva in the park

0:24:19.200 --> 0:24:22.679
<v Speaker 2>to pay her out fifty thousand dollars because Eva wrote

0:24:22.680 --> 0:24:26.119
<v Speaker 2>some of Hype's rap music and they needed her to

0:24:26.160 --> 0:24:31.040
<v Speaker 2>stay anonymous and okay, and then he calls her a

0:24:31.080 --> 0:24:34.320
<v Speaker 2>freak and they're all just so mean. I just like

0:24:34.400 --> 0:24:37.320
<v Speaker 2>can't believe that every single person that they end up

0:24:37.320 --> 0:24:40.240
<v Speaker 2>talking to is such a dick. And I can't imagine

0:24:40.280 --> 0:24:43.520
<v Speaker 2>having to experience this constantly all the time, with people

0:24:43.600 --> 0:24:46.720
<v Speaker 2>thinking so many mean things about you. So they do

0:24:46.840 --> 0:24:50.840
<v Speaker 2>find the check that Cash gave to Eva in they

0:24:50.840 --> 0:24:52.240
<v Speaker 2>call it a waste basket.

0:24:52.359 --> 0:24:53.920
<v Speaker 4>Do you ever say waste basket?

0:24:54.280 --> 0:24:54.480
<v Speaker 5>No?

0:24:54.520 --> 0:24:57.200
<v Speaker 4>I think I just say garbage, but like, you know, yeah,

0:24:57.240 --> 0:25:01.359
<v Speaker 4>that is that is a word. I mean, I was

0:25:01.440 --> 0:25:04.320
<v Speaker 4>just like, did you find a thesaurus careesy?

0:25:04.400 --> 0:25:05.640
<v Speaker 3>I don't know it's garbage.

0:25:06.040 --> 0:25:08.920
<v Speaker 2>But the check is super ripped up, and Benson's like,

0:25:08.960 --> 0:25:10.520
<v Speaker 2>why would she rip this check up?

0:25:10.600 --> 0:25:11.520
<v Speaker 3>Like what's going on?

0:25:11.840 --> 0:25:15.120
<v Speaker 2>And Sonny says, maybe it's of principle, And we get

0:25:15.119 --> 0:25:18.320
<v Speaker 2>a beautiful fin line that reads just like iced Tea's Twitter,

0:25:19.000 --> 0:25:21.560
<v Speaker 2>and he goes cash the check first and worry about

0:25:21.600 --> 0:25:26.960
<v Speaker 2>principle later. So thank you great tidbits. They're at the precinct.

0:25:26.960 --> 0:25:28.600
<v Speaker 2>They're trying to crack the code when they get a

0:25:28.600 --> 0:25:32.080
<v Speaker 2>phone call that they found hypes DNA under Eva's fingernails.

0:25:32.359 --> 0:25:36.080
<v Speaker 2>DNA does not fucking lie, so we have him. So

0:25:36.240 --> 0:25:38.600
<v Speaker 2>Rollin's is tailing him. He's in the cab and he's

0:25:38.600 --> 0:25:41.639
<v Speaker 2>headed towards the hospital where Eva is and Icedy's like, fuck,

0:25:41.680 --> 0:25:45.160
<v Speaker 2>he's crazier than I thought, and then Rollins trips him

0:25:45.200 --> 0:25:47.960
<v Speaker 2>like this is the Three Stooges. He goes flying, and

0:25:48.000 --> 0:25:50.280
<v Speaker 2>then everyone takes their guns out, which kind of I

0:25:50.280 --> 0:25:52.639
<v Speaker 2>don't know why because it is SV but I got started.

0:25:52.680 --> 0:25:55.080
<v Speaker 2>I didn't like all this gun action here. So he's

0:25:55.119 --> 0:25:58.000
<v Speaker 2>on the floor, there's gun. He's wearing a maroon bomber jacket,

0:25:58.320 --> 0:26:01.320
<v Speaker 2>and I do feel like they matched up, like Eva's

0:26:01.320 --> 0:26:03.840
<v Speaker 2>green bomber jacket from the beginning in this maroon one

0:26:03.880 --> 0:26:06.760
<v Speaker 2>of hypes to connect them. Maybe I'm reading too much

0:26:06.760 --> 0:26:10.600
<v Speaker 2>into fashion, but I think it's purposeful that they're both

0:26:10.600 --> 0:26:12.760
<v Speaker 2>wearing complementary bomber jacket colors.

0:26:12.960 --> 0:26:15.000
<v Speaker 3>So that's just a theory I have.

0:26:15.960 --> 0:26:18.400
<v Speaker 2>So they're at the precinct, they're like, we found DNA,

0:26:18.640 --> 0:26:20.480
<v Speaker 2>what the fuck you need to tell us?

0:26:20.800 --> 0:26:22.720
<v Speaker 4>And then he goes, can you keep a secret?

0:26:22.840 --> 0:26:23.320
<v Speaker 3>For real?

0:26:23.480 --> 0:26:25.960
<v Speaker 2>And then we hear Benson go for real, and it's

0:26:26.000 --> 0:26:28.120
<v Speaker 2>the funniest thing I've ever seen in my life. So

0:26:29.359 --> 0:26:31.560
<v Speaker 2>I just want Benson saying for real all the time.

0:26:31.960 --> 0:26:35.439
<v Speaker 2>So he reveals that they had sex, they were dating,

0:26:35.560 --> 0:26:37.919
<v Speaker 2>they were in love, and Icy looks so confused. All

0:26:37.960 --> 0:26:40.440
<v Speaker 2>of his forehead wrinkles are working, like he has never

0:26:40.480 --> 0:26:41.480
<v Speaker 2>looked more confused.

0:26:41.960 --> 0:26:45.000
<v Speaker 4>Icy is allowed to get botox. He's not allowed.

0:26:45.280 --> 0:26:49.959
<v Speaker 1>Those signature forehead wrinkles are too important, and so Iced

0:26:50.000 --> 0:26:52.600
<v Speaker 1>Tea is now explaining to the rest of the squad

0:26:52.640 --> 0:26:56.200
<v Speaker 1>what reputations and street cred are I guess twenty eighteen

0:26:56.280 --> 0:26:59.600
<v Speaker 1>years in the precinct hasn't top of the well. I think

0:26:59.600 --> 0:27:01.639
<v Speaker 1>it's kind of funny too that they let like Iced

0:27:01.680 --> 0:27:04.000
<v Speaker 1>Tea do that kind of thing, because he is an

0:27:04.040 --> 0:27:06.680
<v Speaker 1>actual rapper in real life and like, you know, did

0:27:06.720 --> 0:27:08.840
<v Speaker 1>do like hardcore gangs to wrap, So.

0:27:08.960 --> 0:27:10.040
<v Speaker 3>It's I love it.

0:27:10.040 --> 0:27:11.080
<v Speaker 4>It's a little bit of a wink.

0:27:11.160 --> 0:27:12.960
<v Speaker 1>I think we know that Finn knows what he's talking

0:27:13.000 --> 0:27:17.440
<v Speaker 1>about because in real life he's a fucking like hardcore wrapper.

0:27:17.960 --> 0:27:19.879
<v Speaker 2>And they're at the soda Machines, which I love I

0:27:19.920 --> 0:27:22.880
<v Speaker 2>love a little change of scenery and I always want

0:27:22.920 --> 0:27:26.960
<v Speaker 2>them eating and drinking more. But Benson gets pretzels, Ice

0:27:27.000 --> 0:27:29.240
<v Speaker 2>gets soda. I'm thrilled we find out it's for Hype

0:27:29.240 --> 0:27:31.760
<v Speaker 2>and I'm a fucking idiot and I just like snacks

0:27:31.800 --> 0:27:35.480
<v Speaker 2>way too much. And the crew is discussing the case

0:27:35.520 --> 0:27:39.160
<v Speaker 2>at the machines and what reputation matters. Benson goes, it's

0:27:39.280 --> 0:27:42.280
<v Speaker 2>twenty sixteen, and it's like we're now in twenty twenty

0:27:42.280 --> 0:27:45.359
<v Speaker 2>one and still nothing has changed. It seems like this

0:27:45.560 --> 0:27:50.040
<v Speaker 2>show is so fucked up in how little things change.

0:27:50.440 --> 0:27:53.520
<v Speaker 2>But Careesi admits that he has family members that are

0:27:53.520 --> 0:27:54.440
<v Speaker 2>probably transphobic.

0:27:54.560 --> 0:27:57.200
<v Speaker 3>Rollin says mine too. It's not just gangster rap, it's

0:27:57.200 --> 0:27:57.960
<v Speaker 3>fucking everything.

0:27:58.280 --> 0:28:00.359
<v Speaker 2>And Iced tee, he's gotta admit he's can used by

0:28:00.440 --> 0:28:04.280
<v Speaker 2>gender fluidity, but we wouldn't expect anything else from Ice.

0:28:04.920 --> 0:28:08.320
<v Speaker 2>And I think Benson's jacket is velvet. If it's not,

0:28:08.400 --> 0:28:11.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to pretend it is. So Hype says he

0:28:11.880 --> 0:28:14.120
<v Speaker 2>went to the hospital to check on her. They met

0:28:14.119 --> 0:28:16.879
<v Speaker 2>at a party three months ago and I He's like,

0:28:16.960 --> 0:28:20.679
<v Speaker 2>why did Eva slap you? And basically he ignored her

0:28:20.680 --> 0:28:22.800
<v Speaker 2>at the party because he didn't want anyone to know

0:28:22.840 --> 0:28:25.080
<v Speaker 2>that they knew each other, and she was fucking pissed.

0:28:25.560 --> 0:28:30.280
<v Speaker 2>And then shocker Hype had no idea that Cash was

0:28:30.359 --> 0:28:34.240
<v Speaker 2>paying Eva for quote unquote writing music for him. He

0:28:34.280 --> 0:28:36.280
<v Speaker 2>had no idea. He gets mad, He's like, I write

0:28:36.280 --> 0:28:38.800
<v Speaker 2>all my own fucking music. What are you talking about?

0:28:39.200 --> 0:28:41.920
<v Speaker 2>And they go, okay, but why were you at Cypress Market?

0:28:42.480 --> 0:28:45.000
<v Speaker 2>And they were going to have lunch. She was tired

0:28:45.040 --> 0:28:47.920
<v Speaker 2>of their relationship being on the DL and he freaked out.

0:28:47.960 --> 0:28:48.880
<v Speaker 3>He changed his mind.

0:28:49.240 --> 0:28:51.880
<v Speaker 2>He like couldn't go through with being in public with her,

0:28:52.560 --> 0:28:54.000
<v Speaker 2>and so he went to a bar and drank a

0:28:54.040 --> 0:28:58.040
<v Speaker 2>bunch of peach schnapps and went back to the My.

0:28:57.880 --> 0:29:01.160
<v Speaker 1>God, that's a really insane of the day drink too,

0:29:01.840 --> 0:29:02.240
<v Speaker 1>it is.

0:29:02.880 --> 0:29:07.560
<v Speaker 2>And we always find it funny that the bartenders remember everybody,

0:29:07.760 --> 0:29:10.160
<v Speaker 2>but in this case, the bartender says, no one has

0:29:10.240 --> 0:29:13.360
<v Speaker 2>ordered peach schnaps in five years, so of course we

0:29:13.440 --> 0:29:14.080
<v Speaker 2>remember him.

0:29:14.240 --> 0:29:15.000
<v Speaker 4>Now, that's the other thing.

0:29:15.040 --> 0:29:16.840
<v Speaker 1>If you go to a bar and you order peach schnapps,

0:29:16.880 --> 0:29:19.720
<v Speaker 1>you're getting an old, old ass bottle of liquor, like

0:29:19.840 --> 0:29:22.120
<v Speaker 1>no one orders that. It's been sitting there on a

0:29:22.160 --> 0:29:23.800
<v Speaker 1>shelf for a long ass time.

0:29:24.240 --> 0:29:26.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm a remple mian's girl all I was in my

0:29:26.840 --> 0:29:30.040
<v Speaker 2>mid twenties. It's your day in my day, because I

0:29:30.120 --> 0:29:31.760
<v Speaker 2>used to actually do a joke about it, I think.

0:29:31.760 --> 0:29:33.880
<v Speaker 2>But it's like you have minty fresh breath. It's fucking

0:29:33.880 --> 0:29:36.280
<v Speaker 2>one hundred percent proof. I mean, you get so fucked

0:29:36.360 --> 0:29:39.400
<v Speaker 2>up and you're ready to make out and it tastes

0:29:39.400 --> 0:29:40.160
<v Speaker 2>like toothpaste.

0:29:40.240 --> 0:29:40.600
<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

0:29:42.640 --> 0:29:46.760
<v Speaker 2>I was a big rumpleman's girl in my day. What

0:29:46.960 --> 0:29:47.640
<v Speaker 2>is going on?

0:29:48.080 --> 0:29:49.840
<v Speaker 3>We need to find out.

0:29:50.360 --> 0:29:55.280
<v Speaker 2>So Benson says, let's bring back Karen and her daughter, Sophie.

0:29:55.400 --> 0:29:57.160
<v Speaker 4>And her name is not Karen, but it might as

0:29:57.200 --> 0:29:57.480
<v Speaker 4>well be.

0:29:58.960 --> 0:30:01.960
<v Speaker 2>I just read a statist that no one in Canada

0:30:01.960 --> 0:30:06.560
<v Speaker 2>has named their child Karen since like twenty nineteen, not

0:30:06.840 --> 0:30:11.880
<v Speaker 2>one birth certificate Karen. So Karen and her daughter from

0:30:11.920 --> 0:30:13.840
<v Speaker 2>the beginning of the episode are back in the squadroom,

0:30:13.880 --> 0:30:16.520
<v Speaker 2>and this bitch won't stop interrupting her daughter, who is

0:30:16.600 --> 0:30:20.480
<v Speaker 2>trying to help. Like, thank God for Sophie. I hope

0:30:20.520 --> 0:30:25.920
<v Speaker 2>she emancipates herself from this dumbit. So Benson is sick

0:30:26.000 --> 0:30:29.120
<v Speaker 2>of this woman interrupting her, this daughter, and this is like,

0:30:29.400 --> 0:30:31.040
<v Speaker 2>I mean I didn't know if I was turned on

0:30:31.280 --> 0:30:34.120
<v Speaker 2>or scared or excited. I just like felt every emotion

0:30:34.240 --> 0:30:36.680
<v Speaker 2>in my body. Benson goes, you know what, we need

0:30:36.680 --> 0:30:38.440
<v Speaker 2>to talk outside of the office. Let's go, and she

0:30:38.560 --> 0:30:40.720
<v Speaker 2>lays into her. I mean the hair on my arm

0:30:40.800 --> 0:30:41.360
<v Speaker 2>stood up.

0:30:41.440 --> 0:30:43.960
<v Speaker 1>It felt truly, It was truly like I need to

0:30:44.000 --> 0:30:46.240
<v Speaker 1>see you by yourself, like a teacher in school. Like

0:30:46.280 --> 0:30:48.960
<v Speaker 1>it had those vibes like you're in fucking trouble, like

0:30:49.160 --> 0:30:49.920
<v Speaker 1>Meson wants.

0:30:49.720 --> 0:30:50.680
<v Speaker 4>To see you alone.

0:30:51.960 --> 0:30:55.320
<v Speaker 2>So Benson takes this Karen down into the hallway and

0:30:55.480 --> 0:30:59.800
<v Speaker 2>Legit just rips into her in a way that she is.

0:31:00.800 --> 0:31:04.480
<v Speaker 2>And and the Karen keeps, you know, saying man an address.

0:31:04.480 --> 0:31:06.719
<v Speaker 2>She's a freak. Why does my daughter need to do this?

0:31:07.120 --> 0:31:09.680
<v Speaker 2>And Marishka is like, if you fuck with my investigation,

0:31:09.760 --> 0:31:11.920
<v Speaker 2>I will put you in jail, you dumb, dumb bitch,

0:31:12.480 --> 0:31:16.640
<v Speaker 2>and is like humanizing Eva and is like she has parents,

0:31:16.680 --> 0:31:19.840
<v Speaker 2>she's an art student, her parents have jot like, who

0:31:19.880 --> 0:31:22.800
<v Speaker 2>the fuck are you? And what if Sophie turns out

0:31:23.000 --> 0:31:26.040
<v Speaker 2>to be trans, are gay or I don't know so

0:31:26.160 --> 0:31:28.560
<v Speaker 2>many different things. Are you gonna fucking treat her like this?

0:31:28.720 --> 0:31:32.920
<v Speaker 2>It's just disgusting. I love this speech. And Karen puts

0:31:32.920 --> 0:31:35.000
<v Speaker 2>her tail between her legs and they go back inside,

0:31:35.120 --> 0:31:37.640
<v Speaker 2>and Sophie I d's cash money and remember the tattoo

0:31:37.680 --> 0:31:40.680
<v Speaker 2>on his neck because it reminded her of SpongeBob. Sophie,

0:31:40.960 --> 0:31:45.360
<v Speaker 2>you deserve a medal. Then we get your guys' favorite

0:31:45.760 --> 0:31:49.880
<v Speaker 2>human ever. Our listeners are so wet for Barbara.

0:31:50.040 --> 0:31:53.160
<v Speaker 3>I never knew. I never knew.

0:31:53.240 --> 0:31:56.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean the Barbera Love Barbara Brigade, as Liza has d.

0:31:57.040 --> 0:31:59.640
<v Speaker 3>The Barbara Brigade is real, you guys.

0:32:00.280 --> 0:32:02.280
<v Speaker 2>I feel like more people want to fuck Barbe at

0:32:02.320 --> 0:32:04.240
<v Speaker 2>this point than Coreesian Stabler together.

0:32:04.600 --> 0:32:08.040
<v Speaker 1>Or maybe they're just the loudest. I'm gonna say something controversial.

0:32:08.160 --> 0:32:10.680
<v Speaker 1>I was always waiting for a storyline of him to

0:32:10.720 --> 0:32:11.160
<v Speaker 1>come out.

0:32:13.080 --> 0:32:14.200
<v Speaker 4>I really thought he was gay.

0:32:14.200 --> 0:32:16.239
<v Speaker 1>That's why I never put him in Olivia together as

0:32:16.280 --> 0:32:18.280
<v Speaker 1>a love interest. Like we put a pull up on

0:32:18.280 --> 0:32:20.160
<v Speaker 1>our Instagram that's like, who do you like for Olviya?

0:32:20.160 --> 0:32:22.640
<v Speaker 1>And all these people are like blah blarh blah bla blah.

0:32:22.680 --> 0:32:26.400
<v Speaker 1>The actor is very handsome, the man is very very awesome.

0:32:26.800 --> 0:32:29.280
<v Speaker 1>But I just I just didn't get I got brother sister,

0:32:29.360 --> 0:32:31.320
<v Speaker 1>vibes from them because I always thought that he was

0:32:31.320 --> 0:32:34.920
<v Speaker 1>eventually going to confess that he was a gay man,

0:32:35.000 --> 0:32:38.600
<v Speaker 1>but I could you know that's my own Well, no,

0:32:38.640 --> 0:32:39.040
<v Speaker 1>you're right.

0:32:39.080 --> 0:32:42.760
<v Speaker 2>He's wearing vests. He's wearing fucking vests to court. That's

0:32:42.800 --> 0:32:47.240
<v Speaker 2>a lot of flair. So unfortunately, the rape case turned

0:32:47.280 --> 0:32:49.920
<v Speaker 2>into a murder investigation and Eva died an hour ago

0:32:50.000 --> 0:32:53.320
<v Speaker 2>and she did not make it. So it's really upsetting.

0:32:53.600 --> 0:32:56.320
<v Speaker 2>It's really sad. So they go to Cash's apartment to

0:32:56.440 --> 0:33:01.080
<v Speaker 2>arrest that motherfucker and Cash is bleeding. He is on

0:33:01.120 --> 0:33:05.920
<v Speaker 2>the ground, he's breathing but barely, and Hype is there.

0:33:06.200 --> 0:33:08.600
<v Speaker 2>There's bloody footsteps that lead to Hype and Hype did

0:33:08.640 --> 0:33:13.400
<v Speaker 2>this Hype fucking beat the shit shot. I don't know

0:33:13.400 --> 0:33:17.520
<v Speaker 2>what happened. He did something to Cash. And this guy,

0:33:17.640 --> 0:33:20.520
<v Speaker 2>Mitchell Edwards is an amazing actor. He's like, please, don't shoot,

0:33:20.520 --> 0:33:23.680
<v Speaker 2>don't shoot, don't shoot. We're in the squad room. He's

0:33:23.760 --> 0:33:26.760
<v Speaker 2>wearing a white long sleeve shirt with red blood and

0:33:26.800 --> 0:33:31.080
<v Speaker 2>it's so bright and he has a piece of shit

0:33:31.160 --> 0:33:33.760
<v Speaker 2>lawyer with him, and you could tell this guy is

0:33:33.800 --> 0:33:37.680
<v Speaker 2>not good news. He has like long hair and he's

0:33:37.880 --> 0:33:41.520
<v Speaker 2>just I'm so mad. I'm about to be, like fucking

0:33:41.880 --> 0:33:43.120
<v Speaker 2>so mad that he's not like.

0:33:43.040 --> 0:33:46.040
<v Speaker 1>The fun kind of Jewish old man lawyer. He's like

0:33:46.120 --> 0:33:48.840
<v Speaker 1>a young, douchey prep school lawyer.

0:33:49.080 --> 0:33:51.360
<v Speaker 4>Yes, thank you for helping me.

0:33:54.000 --> 0:33:57.320
<v Speaker 2>And Hype is saying that he got mad about something

0:33:57.360 --> 0:34:01.560
<v Speaker 2>with the contract was wrong and like no one believes him,

0:34:02.080 --> 0:34:05.160
<v Speaker 2>and I also again Careesi is.

0:34:05.200 --> 0:34:10.080
<v Speaker 3>Like, what's got into it made? Which I love. So

0:34:10.120 --> 0:34:10.839
<v Speaker 3>the lawyers like.

0:34:10.840 --> 0:34:13.400
<v Speaker 2>Touching hypes back and leading him in a way and

0:34:13.440 --> 0:34:16.440
<v Speaker 2>like coaching him. And basically he's saying, it's just about

0:34:16.440 --> 0:34:19.840
<v Speaker 2>five percent in the contract. So he signed this contract,

0:34:19.880 --> 0:34:21.880
<v Speaker 2>and then all of a sudden, the same day, Eva

0:34:21.960 --> 0:34:24.520
<v Speaker 2>dies is saying that he read the contract, thought he

0:34:24.560 --> 0:34:27.239
<v Speaker 2>was getting fucked over, went to cash his house and

0:34:27.320 --> 0:34:31.680
<v Speaker 2>shot cash because of five percent. Like it's not the

0:34:31.680 --> 0:34:35.399
<v Speaker 2>fucking truth, and the lawyer and Hype are lying, and

0:34:35.760 --> 0:34:38.960
<v Speaker 2>Benson believes him and just wants justice. Benson is good

0:34:39.000 --> 0:34:41.879
<v Speaker 2>and wants to help him, and they need to take

0:34:41.920 --> 0:34:44.920
<v Speaker 2>the shirt off hipes back for evidence, and Hype as

0:34:45.000 --> 0:34:49.239
<v Speaker 2>an amazing body, this great body, best body on s view.

0:34:49.320 --> 0:34:51.200
<v Speaker 2>I would say, I don't know why they put him

0:34:51.200 --> 0:34:53.440
<v Speaker 2>in clothing. The rest of the episode. They get a

0:34:53.520 --> 0:34:56.560
<v Speaker 2>hit on the gun and it belongs to Vincent Love,

0:34:56.920 --> 0:34:58.879
<v Speaker 2>and they go to Vincent Love's office and he's wearing

0:34:58.920 --> 0:35:01.000
<v Speaker 2>a snake Gucci Co shirt.

0:35:01.120 --> 0:35:06.680
<v Speaker 3>Hello, and again, do you have the word for how

0:35:06.840 --> 0:35:08.440
<v Speaker 3>y Cleff is acting like?

0:35:08.640 --> 0:35:11.680
<v Speaker 1>It's he just has like a lot of swagger, like

0:35:11.719 --> 0:35:16.400
<v Speaker 1>he was just really like unbothered, completely unbothered, Like just

0:35:17.239 --> 0:35:19.520
<v Speaker 1>you could it seems like you could throw anything at him.

0:35:19.520 --> 0:35:21.239
<v Speaker 1>You could like tell him that you just killed his

0:35:21.280 --> 0:35:23.640
<v Speaker 1>mom and he'd be like people gonna die, you know,

0:35:23.880 --> 0:35:25.839
<v Speaker 1>like he's just too chill, Like.

0:35:25.840 --> 0:35:28.600
<v Speaker 4>It's it's it's chilled to a suspicious degree.

0:35:28.920 --> 0:35:32.600
<v Speaker 2>Yes, thank you for all of those perfect descriptors. He's

0:35:32.680 --> 0:35:36.400
<v Speaker 2>like so smug. And then they're like, you know, where's

0:35:36.440 --> 0:35:39.160
<v Speaker 2>your gun? And he opens the drawer and he goes, whoops,

0:35:39.560 --> 0:35:42.640
<v Speaker 2>I thought it did, Like I don't know, it's like

0:35:43.920 --> 0:35:46.839
<v Speaker 2>it's it's pretty amazing. So the gun is not where

0:35:46.840 --> 0:35:49.200
<v Speaker 2>it usually is. They ask if Pipe was there, and

0:35:49.239 --> 0:35:52.239
<v Speaker 2>at that exact moment, Finn runs up panting. He looked

0:35:52.239 --> 0:35:55.120
<v Speaker 2>at the security footage with the door guys and Hype

0:35:55.200 --> 0:35:58.640
<v Speaker 2>was there in the afternoon, and they talk about Eva

0:35:58.680 --> 0:36:04.200
<v Speaker 2>again and Love is misgendering Eva again, saying she or

0:36:04.320 --> 0:36:07.040
<v Speaker 2>is it he? I don't remember, and then Cariese goes,

0:36:07.080 --> 0:36:09.880
<v Speaker 2>you had it right the first time. Instantly I'm turned on.

0:36:10.360 --> 0:36:11.719
<v Speaker 3>And then.

0:36:12.840 --> 0:36:15.960
<v Speaker 2>So then Vincent Love digs into his hateful heart some

0:36:16.080 --> 0:36:20.520
<v Speaker 2>more and legit is like he and iced Tea then

0:36:21.160 --> 0:36:24.200
<v Speaker 2>divulges all the information, says even and Hype were involved,

0:36:24.280 --> 0:36:27.640
<v Speaker 2>tells Vincent everything and Vincent goes, listen, I didn't know

0:36:27.680 --> 0:36:30.799
<v Speaker 2>anything about it. His face acting is incredible. He's like

0:36:30.800 --> 0:36:34.000
<v Speaker 2>a cartoon with his eyes and forehead movements. It's very silly.

0:36:34.280 --> 0:36:37.960
<v Speaker 2>And then when the detectives leave, his eyes change and

0:36:38.000 --> 0:36:42.319
<v Speaker 2>he's like glaring at them, and it's like, what, it's

0:36:42.400 --> 0:36:44.239
<v Speaker 2>kind of how I act when people take photos, Like

0:36:44.280 --> 0:36:45.880
<v Speaker 2>I'll smile in a photo, and as soon as the

0:36:45.920 --> 0:36:47.280
<v Speaker 2>flash is done, I'm back.

0:36:47.080 --> 0:36:49.680
<v Speaker 3>To like fucking anger. This is him.

0:36:49.880 --> 0:36:51.839
<v Speaker 2>Not that I'm angry all the time or anything, but

0:36:52.520 --> 0:36:54.879
<v Speaker 2>I do that though, So they all know that Hype

0:36:54.920 --> 0:36:56.799
<v Speaker 2>is lying about everything. But Barbara says, even if he

0:36:56.840 --> 0:36:59.239
<v Speaker 2>tells the truth, it's not self defense because he drove

0:36:59.320 --> 0:37:03.080
<v Speaker 2>sixty blocks after stealing the gun after three hours, so

0:37:03.480 --> 0:37:07.080
<v Speaker 2>there's you know, premeditation there. So but they do explain

0:37:07.120 --> 0:37:09.000
<v Speaker 2>to Hype, if you tell the truth about Eva, I

0:37:09.000 --> 0:37:11.120
<v Speaker 2>will give you five years, not twenty five years.

0:37:11.560 --> 0:37:13.759
<v Speaker 3>And he says, no, it's a business dispute.

0:37:13.800 --> 0:37:15.600
<v Speaker 2>I don't give a shit, and he goes, I'm not

0:37:15.680 --> 0:37:19.440
<v Speaker 2>a F word, and it's just like really fucking sad,

0:37:19.960 --> 0:37:23.920
<v Speaker 2>and Benson looks so heartbroken, and just the language and

0:37:24.000 --> 0:37:29.439
<v Speaker 2>Hype's decisions and it's just like, take manslaughter, Take manslaughter, like.

0:37:29.360 --> 0:37:31.719
<v Speaker 3>You're about to fucking go to.

0:37:31.800 --> 0:37:36.520
<v Speaker 2>Jail for your twenty years. And he's being handled by

0:37:36.600 --> 0:37:39.319
<v Speaker 2>this bad lawyer who's Vincent Love's lawyer. So he's looking

0:37:39.360 --> 0:37:42.480
<v Speaker 2>out for Vincent Love and the giant record label and

0:37:42.600 --> 0:37:45.520
<v Speaker 2>money and reputation. He's not looking out for this guy.

0:37:46.000 --> 0:37:49.080
<v Speaker 2>And here we learn that the lawyer's name is Hampton,

0:37:49.239 --> 0:37:52.320
<v Speaker 2>So bad fucking news. No, wah, we know a Hampton

0:37:52.520 --> 0:37:55.560
<v Speaker 2>and sorry, but it's a bad name. And he is

0:37:55.640 --> 0:37:59.920
<v Speaker 2>talking Hype out of this deal. And like Vincent Love Orchestra,

0:38:00.200 --> 0:38:02.600
<v Speaker 2>all of this, they knew it. He threw the party,

0:38:02.680 --> 0:38:04.640
<v Speaker 2>he tried to pay her off, he got her beat,

0:38:04.840 --> 0:38:07.160
<v Speaker 2>but there's no evidence. And Barba's like, I play with

0:38:07.239 --> 0:38:09.560
<v Speaker 2>the law, okay, Like I'll get you a warrand, but

0:38:09.640 --> 0:38:10.840
<v Speaker 2>you need to find me proof.

0:38:11.080 --> 0:38:12.240
<v Speaker 3>They fucking find proof.

0:38:12.280 --> 0:38:16.280
<v Speaker 2>They find a tape of Vincent Love planning this attack

0:38:16.360 --> 0:38:17.200
<v Speaker 2>on Eva.

0:38:16.960 --> 0:38:19.000
<v Speaker 4>And like, what are we gonna do to shut this

0:38:19.080 --> 0:38:19.799
<v Speaker 4>woman up?

0:38:20.080 --> 0:38:23.439
<v Speaker 2>Two days before the attack, and now Barbara's offering even

0:38:23.480 --> 0:38:25.640
<v Speaker 2>a better deal. He's like, I'll give you man two

0:38:25.760 --> 0:38:29.040
<v Speaker 2>only three years in jail, so then we can go

0:38:29.160 --> 0:38:32.640
<v Speaker 2>after Vincent Love for murdering Eva, like fucking do this,

0:38:33.239 --> 0:38:35.560
<v Speaker 2>And the lawyer is being bad and Benson is like,

0:38:35.600 --> 0:38:38.080
<v Speaker 2>shut your fucking mouth, let your client speak, and he's like,

0:38:38.120 --> 0:38:40.600
<v Speaker 2>it's not his job to speak, and she says, then

0:38:40.680 --> 0:38:45.600
<v Speaker 2>speak for his behalf. And it's just I love Benson

0:38:45.680 --> 0:38:49.680
<v Speaker 2>so much and Hype just he knows it. He admits

0:38:49.719 --> 0:38:52.640
<v Speaker 2>he knows it. He knows exactly what they did. But

0:38:53.600 --> 0:38:56.120
<v Speaker 2>he's not going to snitch. He's not going to turn

0:38:56.160 --> 0:38:59.000
<v Speaker 2>on Vincent Love. Benson is pleading with him, you're going

0:38:59.040 --> 0:39:01.439
<v Speaker 2>to spend twenty five years in jail while they make

0:39:01.480 --> 0:39:04.839
<v Speaker 2>money off of your music. Hampton is not serving time,

0:39:04.960 --> 0:39:09.000
<v Speaker 2>not Vince Love, nobody you are. And you could tell

0:39:09.080 --> 0:39:12.759
<v Speaker 2>he's conflicted and thinking, and then he just bites his

0:39:12.840 --> 0:39:16.960
<v Speaker 2>lip and says, see you in court and that's it.

0:39:16.960 --> 0:39:22.520
<v Speaker 2>It's like, yeah, it's it's heartbreaking. And we're at Supreme Court,

0:39:22.600 --> 0:39:26.759
<v Speaker 2>Part eight. Listen the court. It's kind of classic. It's

0:39:27.400 --> 0:39:30.200
<v Speaker 2>the opening arguments and we see, like we know what's

0:39:30.239 --> 0:39:33.279
<v Speaker 2>going to happen. The lawyer Hampton is basically phoning it in.

0:39:33.760 --> 0:39:37.080
<v Speaker 2>It's the worst set I've ever seen of an opening case.

0:39:37.200 --> 0:39:40.160
<v Speaker 2>He could barely care. He's not really fighting for his client.

0:39:40.480 --> 0:39:43.480
<v Speaker 2>It's not a good opening line, and it's more about

0:39:43.480 --> 0:39:46.800
<v Speaker 2>how good he is at music, Like it's just awful.

0:39:46.880 --> 0:39:49.080
<v Speaker 2>And then Eva's parents are in the courtroom crying, and

0:39:49.120 --> 0:39:50.399
<v Speaker 2>I don't understand why they're there.

0:39:50.600 --> 0:39:51.839
<v Speaker 3>Why are Eva's parents at court?

0:39:51.880 --> 0:39:52.239
<v Speaker 4>Go home?

0:39:52.680 --> 0:39:55.160
<v Speaker 1>It is weird that they're there because, well, I guess

0:39:55.239 --> 0:39:58.360
<v Speaker 1>they want to see if the man who killed their.

0:39:58.320 --> 0:40:02.160
<v Speaker 4>Daughter, his murderer, is going to go to I don't know.

0:40:02.200 --> 0:40:03.840
<v Speaker 1>It is weird that they're there because this isn't the

0:40:03.880 --> 0:40:05.120
<v Speaker 1>trial of their daughter's killer.

0:40:05.280 --> 0:40:08.200
<v Speaker 2>No, it's like, what, you're here to just be traumatized,

0:40:08.360 --> 0:40:11.120
<v Speaker 2>Like I go home, drink some tea, cry.

0:40:11.719 --> 0:40:13.399
<v Speaker 1>I do love them though they were so they were

0:40:13.400 --> 0:40:15.960
<v Speaker 1>like so accepting of their daughter when she came out

0:40:16.040 --> 0:40:19.480
<v Speaker 1>to them and everything and was transitioning and I just

0:40:19.520 --> 0:40:19.880
<v Speaker 1>love them.

0:40:20.040 --> 0:40:21.759
<v Speaker 4>But you're right, they didn't need to be there. I

0:40:21.800 --> 0:40:23.200
<v Speaker 4>don't think they needed there.

0:40:24.080 --> 0:40:26.759
<v Speaker 2>Hypes on the stand and Barbara is amazing at what

0:40:26.840 --> 0:40:29.439
<v Speaker 2>he does, so he does an amazing good job at him,

0:40:29.760 --> 0:40:32.040
<v Speaker 2>and he's like, so you signed this contract two months

0:40:32.040 --> 0:40:34.840
<v Speaker 2>ago and then all of a sudden, on a Wednesday afternoon,

0:40:34.880 --> 0:40:37.239
<v Speaker 2>you decide to just read this contract and go start

0:40:37.239 --> 0:40:39.680
<v Speaker 2>a fight with cash, Like you're fucking lying?

0:40:40.040 --> 0:40:40.640
<v Speaker 3>What is you know?

0:40:40.760 --> 0:40:46.480
<v Speaker 2>It's just bad, It's sad. The verdict comes in murder,

0:40:46.600 --> 0:40:49.160
<v Speaker 2>second degree. They find the defendant guilty, and then Hype

0:40:49.200 --> 0:40:51.480
<v Speaker 2>looks shocked, and it's like, why are you shocked?

0:40:52.560 --> 0:40:54.360
<v Speaker 3>What you knew this was going to happen.

0:40:54.160 --> 0:40:57.480
<v Speaker 1>Probably because Hampton told him, no, no jury's going to

0:40:57.520 --> 0:40:59.880
<v Speaker 1>convict you. There's not enough evidence. We've got a pretty

0:40:59.880 --> 0:41:02.480
<v Speaker 1>good story, like Hampton's in on this. This is like

0:41:02.680 --> 0:41:05.360
<v Speaker 1>if he appealed, I think he could get a retrial

0:41:05.440 --> 0:41:09.480
<v Speaker 1>based on like bad counsel or whatever that law is.

0:41:10.000 --> 0:41:13.439
<v Speaker 2>Damn And so yeah, Vincent Love is evil as fuck.

0:41:13.480 --> 0:41:16.640
<v Speaker 2>We see his face in the courtroom looking satisfied, and

0:41:16.680 --> 0:41:19.959
<v Speaker 2>then Benson on the court steps says to Barbara three

0:41:20.000 --> 0:41:23.000
<v Speaker 2>lives destroyed because a woman named Eva was born a boy,

0:41:23.719 --> 0:41:27.839
<v Speaker 2>and Barbara then says, hype single just hit number one

0:41:28.680 --> 0:41:31.280
<v Speaker 2>and they walk down the court steps to fight justice

0:41:31.320 --> 0:41:33.799
<v Speaker 2>another day as there is a row of red Porta

0:41:33.880 --> 0:41:34.880
<v Speaker 2>potties lined.

0:41:34.680 --> 0:41:35.680
<v Speaker 4>Up in the distance.

0:41:38.000 --> 0:41:41.880
<v Speaker 1>So poetic, you really find you always find the beauty

0:41:41.920 --> 0:41:44.719
<v Speaker 1>in Law and Order SVU Lisa. That was a great

0:41:44.719 --> 0:41:47.399
<v Speaker 1>recap of a very harrowing episode. They've done a lot

0:41:47.440 --> 0:41:49.000
<v Speaker 1>of I think this show has done a lot of

0:41:49.120 --> 0:41:53.319
<v Speaker 1>great episodes about the trans community, and this one was, Yeah,

0:41:53.480 --> 0:41:56.560
<v Speaker 1>just obviously very heartbreaking. Let's take a break and I'll

0:41:56.600 --> 0:42:16.360
<v Speaker 1>walk you through the real life info. All right, we

0:42:16.600 --> 0:42:21.240
<v Speaker 1>are back back back again. So this episode Broken Rhymes

0:42:21.320 --> 0:42:23.960
<v Speaker 1>aired in November of twenty sixteen, and that's about a

0:42:24.040 --> 0:42:28.759
<v Speaker 1>year after a transgender porn star named Mia Isabella made

0:42:28.840 --> 0:42:32.120
<v Speaker 1>tabloids in the summer of twenty fifteen for an alleged

0:42:32.160 --> 0:42:34.160
<v Speaker 1>relationship with the rapper Tiger.

0:42:34.640 --> 0:42:37.200
<v Speaker 4>Now everything here is alleged. I don't want to get sued.

0:42:37.320 --> 0:42:38.040
<v Speaker 4>This is all.

0:42:38.120 --> 0:42:40.040
<v Speaker 1>This is all rumors, although it's like you know, there

0:42:40.080 --> 0:42:41.360
<v Speaker 1>it was covered by the press.

0:42:41.400 --> 0:42:42.560
<v Speaker 4>Where there's smoke, there's fire.

0:42:42.640 --> 0:42:46.359
<v Speaker 1>I don't think this is completely made up. But that's

0:42:46.440 --> 0:42:47.160
<v Speaker 1>just my opinion.

0:42:47.680 --> 0:42:51.120
<v Speaker 4>Nothing has been proven my opinion. This is just my opinion.

0:42:52.640 --> 0:42:55.359
<v Speaker 1>Tiger, which I thought was just like a stylized way

0:42:55.400 --> 0:42:59.120
<v Speaker 1>of saying tiger, actually stands for thank you God always.

0:42:59.320 --> 0:42:59.960
<v Speaker 3>I didn't know that.

0:43:00.080 --> 0:43:01.839
<v Speaker 4>I didn't know that either, thank you so much.

0:43:02.400 --> 0:43:04.719
<v Speaker 1>So all I knew about Tiga was that he had

0:43:04.800 --> 0:43:08.640
<v Speaker 1>dated Kylie Jenner, and I just completely never put it

0:43:08.640 --> 0:43:12.640
<v Speaker 1>together that Tiga was first with Black China, with whom

0:43:12.640 --> 0:43:14.360
<v Speaker 1>he had a son. Black China, if you don't know

0:43:14.360 --> 0:43:17.279
<v Speaker 1>who she is, is described online as like a socialite

0:43:17.840 --> 0:43:19.840
<v Speaker 1>and a entrepreneur.

0:43:19.960 --> 0:43:22.360
<v Speaker 4>I don't really know. She's just kind of like a figure.

0:43:22.719 --> 0:43:26.000
<v Speaker 2>But socialites come from rich families, and I don't know

0:43:26.040 --> 0:43:28.359
<v Speaker 2>if she comes from like a dynasty I.

0:43:28.320 --> 0:43:30.560
<v Speaker 1>Know, but I think she's just She would be considered

0:43:30.600 --> 0:43:33.000
<v Speaker 1>like a hip hop socialite because she's been in videos.

0:43:33.040 --> 0:43:35.800
<v Speaker 1>She's just like is part of that community without actually

0:43:35.800 --> 0:43:38.480
<v Speaker 1>making music. She gets name dropped in rap songs like

0:43:39.200 --> 0:43:41.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, that's I guess where that comes from.

0:43:41.680 --> 0:43:44.440
<v Speaker 4>That was on her Wikipedia that she's a socialite, So

0:43:45.040 --> 0:43:45.800
<v Speaker 4>what's crazy.

0:43:45.920 --> 0:43:49.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Tiger has a son named King Cairo with Black China,

0:43:50.400 --> 0:43:52.520
<v Speaker 1>and he first broke up with her in twenty fourteen.

0:43:52.640 --> 0:43:56.000
<v Speaker 1>He confirmed his relationship with Kylie Jenner a few months later.

0:43:56.680 --> 0:43:57.719
<v Speaker 4>She was seventeen.

0:43:57.880 --> 0:44:00.520
<v Speaker 1>They basically started flirting at her seventeenth at day party

0:44:00.560 --> 0:44:03.320
<v Speaker 1>when he was twenty five, which I think is not okay.

0:44:03.800 --> 0:44:07.400
<v Speaker 1>And then in twenty sixteen, Black China started dating Kylie's brother,

0:44:07.520 --> 0:44:10.799
<v Speaker 1>Rob Kardashian and has a child with him. That's how

0:44:10.880 --> 0:44:13.759
<v Speaker 1>wild this fucking family is, the Kardashians. So if you

0:44:13.760 --> 0:44:17.280
<v Speaker 1>can follow all that, but back to the quote unquote scandal.

0:44:17.560 --> 0:44:20.680
<v Speaker 1>In on July sixth of twenty fifteen, while Tiga is

0:44:20.760 --> 0:44:24.800
<v Speaker 1>dating Kylie, a gossip blogger named b Scott dropped a

0:44:24.920 --> 0:44:29.000
<v Speaker 1>quote unquote exclusive with an email they received that alleged

0:44:29.040 --> 0:44:32.239
<v Speaker 1>that Tiger and a transgender actress named Mia Isabella had

0:44:32.239 --> 0:44:36.399
<v Speaker 1>been in an ongoing relationship for three years. So this

0:44:36.440 --> 0:44:39.600
<v Speaker 1>is an affair that actually started when he was with China. Allegedly,

0:44:39.960 --> 0:44:43.280
<v Speaker 1>everything is alleged. There was a possible sex tape between Tiga,

0:44:43.520 --> 0:44:46.120
<v Speaker 1>mia Isabella, and then a model that she was roommates

0:44:46.160 --> 0:44:49.400
<v Speaker 1>with named Capri, who was I guess once linked to

0:44:49.480 --> 0:44:52.440
<v Speaker 1>Charlie Sheen. I don't know, I'm goss the gossipy person

0:44:52.440 --> 0:44:55.200
<v Speaker 1>in me is like, that's important. So apparently the plan

0:44:55.320 --> 0:44:58.160
<v Speaker 1>for Mia and Tiga to like explain if they ever

0:44:58.200 --> 0:45:01.240
<v Speaker 1>got found out, was just to connect themselves through their careers.

0:45:01.280 --> 0:45:04.040
<v Speaker 1>She's a fashion stylist, she's a consultant for his brand.

0:45:04.160 --> 0:45:06.640
<v Speaker 1>She apparently had like a really big fashion career I

0:45:06.680 --> 0:45:10.920
<v Speaker 1>think before she started getting into pornography and acting and

0:45:10.960 --> 0:45:14.600
<v Speaker 1>stuff like that. And the email alleges that her close

0:45:14.640 --> 0:45:17.280
<v Speaker 1>friends knew all about this relationship, it was not a secret,

0:45:17.360 --> 0:45:19.880
<v Speaker 1>and that they even invited other people into their sex life.

0:45:20.040 --> 0:45:22.719
<v Speaker 1>The blog has a quote that says clearly for her,

0:45:22.760 --> 0:45:25.000
<v Speaker 1>he's been willing to risk it all, having made plans

0:45:25.080 --> 0:45:26.960
<v Speaker 1>to see each other just a couple weeks ago and

0:45:27.040 --> 0:45:29.680
<v Speaker 1>never stopping their relationship through a baby mama and an

0:45:29.719 --> 0:45:32.200
<v Speaker 1>alleged girlfriend. They seem to have a lot of love

0:45:32.239 --> 0:45:34.279
<v Speaker 1>for each other, even as she was being courted by

0:45:34.320 --> 0:45:37.160
<v Speaker 1>a boxer named Jean Pascal she had no interest in.

0:45:37.480 --> 0:45:39.799
<v Speaker 1>So The blog posts that blew this up included a

0:45:39.840 --> 0:45:43.160
<v Speaker 1>ton of screenshots, including text messages and full frontal nudes

0:45:43.160 --> 0:45:46.319
<v Speaker 1>of Tiger, but they were taken down by Tiger's legal team,

0:45:46.360 --> 0:45:48.160
<v Speaker 1>And I just thought it was really funny. The blog wrote,

0:45:48.200 --> 0:45:51.160
<v Speaker 1>Tiger's legal team wasn't really feeling those photos, so we've

0:45:51.160 --> 0:45:53.799
<v Speaker 1>been asked to take them down. We obliged. It was

0:45:53.840 --> 0:45:56.640
<v Speaker 1>fun while it lasted, but it ain't over. Stay tuned.

0:45:56.880 --> 0:45:57.760
<v Speaker 1>I love these blogs.

0:45:57.760 --> 0:46:00.520
<v Speaker 2>They're so well well, it's also just so enjoy because

0:46:00.560 --> 0:46:04.760
<v Speaker 2>usually we're just talking about like horrific murders and cigarette burns.

0:46:05.000 --> 0:46:09.879
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, rapes, and I just I love that it's blogs

0:46:10.160 --> 0:46:14.000
<v Speaker 7>and for all frontal nudes, like it's just it's kind

0:46:14.000 --> 0:46:15.200
<v Speaker 7>of you know, it's enjoyable.

0:46:15.520 --> 0:46:16.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:46:16.400 --> 0:46:19.319
<v Speaker 1>So this full frontal nude of Tiger showed a bunch

0:46:19.360 --> 0:46:21.799
<v Speaker 1>of his tattoos. He's very heavily tattooed, so you know,

0:46:21.840 --> 0:46:24.480
<v Speaker 1>it was like, it's hard to say this is somebody else,

0:46:24.560 --> 0:46:27.160
<v Speaker 1>you know. After this comes out the next day, Tiger

0:46:27.200 --> 0:46:30.440
<v Speaker 1>tweets quote the Devil's working hard today end quote. And

0:46:30.480 --> 0:46:32.600
<v Speaker 1>then all these hip hop blogs are accusing me of

0:46:32.719 --> 0:46:35.560
<v Speaker 1>lying and conjuring evil quote unquote.

0:46:35.719 --> 0:46:37.879
<v Speaker 3>Like she's in the craft or something, right right.

0:46:39.520 --> 0:46:39.640
<v Speaker 8>Then?

0:46:39.680 --> 0:46:42.640
<v Speaker 1>About seven weeks later, August twenty sixth, the story escalated

0:46:42.880 --> 0:46:46.880
<v Speaker 1>when some sports blogger named terrez Owens, who like is

0:46:46.960 --> 0:46:49.200
<v Speaker 1>some self proclaimed sports king.

0:46:49.280 --> 0:46:50.160
<v Speaker 4>I don't know who he is.

0:46:50.560 --> 0:46:53.120
<v Speaker 1>Claimed that Mia was also in a long term relationship

0:46:53.120 --> 0:46:57.320
<v Speaker 1>with Colin Kaepernick, and he writes this sounds far fetched,

0:46:57.320 --> 0:46:59.440
<v Speaker 1>but who knows what the world we live in these days?

0:47:00.120 --> 0:47:02.719
<v Speaker 1>His blog looks janky as hell, and he literally just

0:47:02.760 --> 0:47:05.160
<v Speaker 1>states this rumor with zero evidence, like at least be

0:47:05.280 --> 0:47:09.360
<v Speaker 1>Scott's site had screenshots and like, you know, texts and stuff.

0:47:09.719 --> 0:47:12.120
<v Speaker 1>This Kaepernick thing, Like he just was like this is

0:47:12.120 --> 0:47:14.680
<v Speaker 1>what I heard, and like Kaepernick has obviously never addressed

0:47:14.719 --> 0:47:18.600
<v Speaker 1>these rumors. Back to the Tiger scandal, I hate calling

0:47:18.680 --> 0:47:20.480
<v Speaker 1>I keep calling it a scandal in quotes because I

0:47:20.480 --> 0:47:22.360
<v Speaker 1>don't think it's a scandal for a man to be

0:47:22.360 --> 0:47:24.399
<v Speaker 1>in love with a trans woman. I think the only

0:47:24.440 --> 0:47:26.560
<v Speaker 1>the only part of the scandal here is somebody having

0:47:26.640 --> 0:47:29.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, nudes leaked of them against their will or

0:47:29.640 --> 0:47:33.360
<v Speaker 1>without their permission. That's obviously a crime and not not cool.

0:47:33.920 --> 0:47:37.520
<v Speaker 1>But according to Tiger's legal team, the FBI's working on it,

0:47:37.560 --> 0:47:42.840
<v Speaker 1>and Tiger was hacked, so they claim that somehow someone else,

0:47:42.920 --> 0:47:46.799
<v Speaker 1>like they hacked his phone, got these nudes, created this

0:47:47.000 --> 0:47:49.600
<v Speaker 1>fake relationship with this transient a porn star. It just

0:47:49.680 --> 0:47:51.960
<v Speaker 1>isn't that doesn't really add up for me when everybody

0:47:52.120 --> 0:47:54.040
<v Speaker 1>always is like I was hacked, I'm like, I just

0:47:54.160 --> 0:47:55.120
<v Speaker 1>don't believe it.

0:47:55.239 --> 0:47:55.800
<v Speaker 4>But okay.

0:47:56.280 --> 0:47:59.480
<v Speaker 1>Meanwhile, another trans model said she was paid for by

0:47:59.520 --> 0:48:01.680
<v Speaker 1>Tiger for sex and that he has done the same

0:48:01.719 --> 0:48:02.560
<v Speaker 1>with other trans women.

0:48:02.840 --> 0:48:05.080
<v Speaker 4>More power to him. If that's what he's into, go

0:48:05.280 --> 0:48:05.640
<v Speaker 4>for it.

0:48:05.880 --> 0:48:08.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't understand why anyone needs to be

0:48:08.680 --> 0:48:10.480
<v Speaker 1>in his business, although we are talking about it on

0:48:10.520 --> 0:48:11.200
<v Speaker 1>our podcast, so I.

0:48:11.200 --> 0:48:12.640
<v Speaker 4>Guess we'll go keep well.

0:48:12.840 --> 0:48:15.080
<v Speaker 2>So I think it's the cheating too, And I wonder

0:48:15.120 --> 0:48:17.920
<v Speaker 2>if he wasn't links to Kylie, if we would even

0:48:18.000 --> 0:48:21.560
<v Speaker 2>know about him out right now, Like I didn't know

0:48:21.600 --> 0:48:24.319
<v Speaker 2>about Tiger until Kylie Jenner was dating him.

0:48:24.600 --> 0:48:26.399
<v Speaker 1>I think it definitely helped. But I also think he's

0:48:26.400 --> 0:48:28.399
<v Speaker 1>won awards for his music. I think people think he's

0:48:28.440 --> 0:48:30.920
<v Speaker 1>really good. I don't know, Okay, I don't actually like

0:48:30.960 --> 0:48:32.920
<v Speaker 1>know a lot of his music, but you're right, like,

0:48:32.960 --> 0:48:35.440
<v Speaker 1>it would definitely not have been as sensational if he

0:48:35.480 --> 0:48:37.359
<v Speaker 1>wasn't dating one of the most famous people in the world.

0:48:37.800 --> 0:48:41.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but he would have just been dating and paying

0:48:41.600 --> 0:48:42.840
<v Speaker 2>whoever and doing whatever.

0:48:43.080 --> 0:48:44.080
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:48:44.120 --> 0:48:47.239
<v Speaker 1>So then Mia spoke out publicly and said it's very

0:48:47.280 --> 0:48:49.400
<v Speaker 1>sad that the idea of a man loving a transperson

0:48:49.440 --> 0:48:51.880
<v Speaker 1>has to be considered a scandal when all people are equal.

0:48:52.120 --> 0:48:53.399
<v Speaker 4>She said this to VH one.

0:48:53.800 --> 0:48:56.759
<v Speaker 1>She said, if a celebrated man loves a transgender woman,

0:48:56.840 --> 0:48:59.480
<v Speaker 1>or possibly did, that's news. It shouldn't be news, it

0:48:59.480 --> 0:49:01.600
<v Speaker 1>should be norm for anyone, and everyone's.

0:49:01.239 --> 0:49:03.760
<v Speaker 4>To be allowed to love who they choose. Totally agree.

0:49:04.320 --> 0:49:07.520
<v Speaker 1>Much like the character Eva in the episode, MIA's parents

0:49:07.520 --> 0:49:10.359
<v Speaker 1>were very supportive of her identity and transition, like when

0:49:10.400 --> 0:49:13.560
<v Speaker 1>she came out, so I think she's loosely based on

0:49:13.600 --> 0:49:17.080
<v Speaker 1>this character. Tiger publicly denied it on the radio, saying,

0:49:17.160 --> 0:49:19.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, damn, who's making this shit up? He said

0:49:20.000 --> 0:49:23.360
<v Speaker 1>on Atlanta Streets ninety four to five when asked about it, You're.

0:49:23.000 --> 0:49:29.680
<v Speaker 4>Making me as happy as Benson going for real, somebody really?

0:49:29.880 --> 0:49:32.480
<v Speaker 1>He also said, quote, somebody really got something against me

0:49:32.560 --> 0:49:34.839
<v Speaker 1>up top somewhere. So he thinks this is like a

0:49:34.880 --> 0:49:37.560
<v Speaker 1>full conspiracy to take him down from a top level

0:49:37.880 --> 0:49:42.319
<v Speaker 1>creating this fake relationship, which I don't know. That sounds

0:49:42.360 --> 0:49:44.840
<v Speaker 1>a little House of Cards level crazy to me, but

0:49:45.360 --> 0:49:48.000
<v Speaker 1>maybe it's true. Maybe somebody is like conspiring to take

0:49:48.040 --> 0:49:50.560
<v Speaker 1>him down. So then Tiger denied it on the radio

0:49:50.600 --> 0:49:52.919
<v Speaker 1>in the winter of twenty sixteen. A couple of weeks later,

0:49:53.000 --> 0:49:55.560
<v Speaker 1>Mia spoke out finally and said that she had lost

0:49:55.560 --> 0:49:57.839
<v Speaker 1>her soulmate due to this story. And this is like,

0:49:58.040 --> 0:49:59.879
<v Speaker 1>this is her finally speaking out in February of twenty

0:49:59.840 --> 0:50:02.040
<v Speaker 1>si sixteen. At this broke in July of twenty fifteen.

0:50:02.080 --> 0:50:04.160
<v Speaker 1>So for seven months she hasn't really said anything. And

0:50:04.200 --> 0:50:07.200
<v Speaker 1>she says, quote seven months, I stayed suffering and depressed,

0:50:07.440 --> 0:50:10.480
<v Speaker 1>protecting you while losing everything. I didn't release anything. So

0:50:10.520 --> 0:50:13.080
<v Speaker 1>she's saying she's not even the one that released these texts.

0:50:13.360 --> 0:50:15.960
<v Speaker 1>She didn't release these nudes. She's like, I didn't do

0:50:16.000 --> 0:50:18.479
<v Speaker 1>any of this. I never threatened to release a sex tape.

0:50:18.520 --> 0:50:20.239
<v Speaker 1>But you decided to let the world make me a

0:50:20.320 --> 0:50:22.960
<v Speaker 1>villain and you the victim, and you weren't. She's like,

0:50:23.000 --> 0:50:24.440
<v Speaker 1>I have three and a half years of truth I

0:50:24.440 --> 0:50:26.799
<v Speaker 1>could spill, but I'm not. And she said, but I'm

0:50:26.840 --> 0:50:29.040
<v Speaker 1>not hiding anymore and I'm not crying your shame. It's

0:50:29.080 --> 0:50:31.400
<v Speaker 1>too heavy for me. So here you can have it

0:50:31.480 --> 0:50:34.640
<v Speaker 1>back now. So I mean, there is like an interesting thing,

0:50:34.680 --> 0:50:37.600
<v Speaker 1>like she doesn't really gain anything from this. She literally

0:50:38.280 --> 0:50:41.319
<v Speaker 1>her rep said she has been offered so many much

0:50:41.360 --> 0:50:43.200
<v Speaker 1>money for tell All's interviews.

0:50:43.280 --> 0:50:45.399
<v Speaker 4>She's turned them all down, but.

0:50:45.400 --> 0:50:46.960
<v Speaker 1>He's like, on the other hand, she's not a chump

0:50:47.000 --> 0:50:48.600
<v Speaker 1>and she's not going to stand by while Tagger goes

0:50:48.640 --> 0:50:50.800
<v Speaker 1>on radio shows and says that the whole association is

0:50:50.840 --> 0:50:53.600
<v Speaker 1>a fabrication, like the texts and the relationship are in

0:50:53.640 --> 0:50:54.200
<v Speaker 1>fact real.

0:50:54.680 --> 0:50:56.520
<v Speaker 4>So that's MIA's story.

0:50:56.640 --> 0:50:59.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I read a really great it'll be in

0:50:59.120 --> 0:51:00.799
<v Speaker 1>our show notes, but I read a great interview with

0:51:00.840 --> 0:51:05.080
<v Speaker 1>her from Vice where I believe the writer was also transgender.

0:51:05.120 --> 0:51:07.080
<v Speaker 1>So it was like a really interesting story about how

0:51:07.200 --> 0:51:10.200
<v Speaker 1>Mia sort of inspired the writer with their own identity.

0:51:10.520 --> 0:51:12.600
<v Speaker 1>Mia says in the article like the porn industry was

0:51:12.600 --> 0:51:15.560
<v Speaker 1>like a real catalyst of her self acceptance for her.

0:51:16.200 --> 0:51:18.560
<v Speaker 1>She said that the reason that she didn't do interviews

0:51:18.600 --> 0:51:21.600
<v Speaker 1>about this was because they wanted her to perpetuate the

0:51:21.640 --> 0:51:24.479
<v Speaker 1>sense of shame against a transattracted person and I wasn't

0:51:24.480 --> 0:51:27.279
<v Speaker 1>going to do that. And she later said that she

0:51:27.360 --> 0:51:30.000
<v Speaker 1>and Kap were in love, but she made him walk

0:51:30.040 --> 0:51:33.879
<v Speaker 1>away to protect his brand, So who knows. So that's

0:51:33.960 --> 0:51:36.200
<v Speaker 1>the sort of gossipy story that I think this was

0:51:36.200 --> 0:51:38.960
<v Speaker 1>based on. Obviously, no one in the real life story

0:51:39.160 --> 0:51:42.160
<v Speaker 1>is murdered. SVU obviously kicks it up a notch for us,

0:51:42.600 --> 0:51:45.960
<v Speaker 1>but that is the story that the episode is based on.

0:51:46.120 --> 0:51:47.440
<v Speaker 3>And I'm glad no one's murdered.

0:51:48.120 --> 0:51:50.200
<v Speaker 4>Yes, of course, I'm glad no one's murdered.

0:51:50.600 --> 0:51:53.040
<v Speaker 6>I think it's an interesting thing with what you guys

0:51:53.040 --> 0:51:55.560
<v Speaker 6>talked about in a previous episode with like what happened

0:51:55.560 --> 0:51:59.560
<v Speaker 6>to Katie Hale after her nudes were leaked, her consequences

0:51:59.640 --> 0:52:03.200
<v Speaker 6>and has this affected Tiger's life in any way?

0:52:03.880 --> 0:52:05.280
<v Speaker 4>Right, that's so true.

0:52:05.320 --> 0:52:08.360
<v Speaker 1>I mean it's also different politics versus the music, but

0:52:08.440 --> 0:52:10.280
<v Speaker 1>just men versus women, that's very true.

0:52:10.480 --> 0:52:15.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and trans or any other sort of type of relationship.

0:52:15.760 --> 0:52:19.080
<v Speaker 2>It sucks being felt like you need to be kept

0:52:19.080 --> 0:52:23.280
<v Speaker 2>a secret or judged in a way, or like someone

0:52:23.360 --> 0:52:25.080
<v Speaker 2>that you love is ashamed of you and you have

0:52:25.120 --> 0:52:27.040
<v Speaker 2>to hide like that fucking sucks.

0:52:27.120 --> 0:52:28.520
<v Speaker 3>It doesn't make anyone feel good.

0:52:29.400 --> 0:52:32.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I mean she stood by for like seven

0:52:32.200 --> 0:52:34.160
<v Speaker 1>months saying nothing, and then finally I think when he

0:52:34.200 --> 0:52:36.280
<v Speaker 1>went on the radio and was like continuing to deny

0:52:36.320 --> 0:52:38.480
<v Speaker 1>that they even knew each other, was like, fuck this,

0:52:38.800 --> 0:52:41.200
<v Speaker 1>And it sucks that people.

0:52:42.280 --> 0:52:45.160
<v Speaker 2>I don't know or I don't even know the word

0:52:45.760 --> 0:52:48.440
<v Speaker 2>like don't look. It just sucks that people can't do

0:52:48.480 --> 0:52:49.319
<v Speaker 2>whatever they want to do.

0:52:49.800 --> 0:52:51.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think, like that's my whole thing, is like

0:52:51.960 --> 0:52:53.560
<v Speaker 1>let everybody live the life they want to live.

0:52:53.640 --> 0:52:54.480
<v Speaker 4>I don't. It doesn't.

0:52:54.719 --> 0:52:57.560
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't affect you that someone what bathroom someone uses,

0:52:57.560 --> 0:52:59.279
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't affect you who someone has sex with.

0:52:59.320 --> 0:53:00.640
<v Speaker 4>It just none of it affect you.

0:53:00.680 --> 0:53:03.760
<v Speaker 3>Like well because in a part of even though Taiga.

0:53:03.400 --> 0:53:05.560
<v Speaker 2>I guess is like the villain of the story in

0:53:05.600 --> 0:53:08.440
<v Speaker 2>a certain way, like he also can't live his truth

0:53:08.520 --> 0:53:11.239
<v Speaker 2>because he's scared that he won't be respected in his

0:53:11.320 --> 0:53:14.120
<v Speaker 2>reputation and his career will go down in flames. So

0:53:14.239 --> 0:53:16.239
<v Speaker 2>even though he's like not being nice to me in

0:53:16.239 --> 0:53:19.120
<v Speaker 2>whatever way, he's also the victim of this. If this

0:53:19.280 --> 0:53:22.880
<v Speaker 2>is all true, you know, allegedly, it sucks all around.

0:53:23.239 --> 0:53:25.279
<v Speaker 1>I mean, and he probably I mean, like, for all

0:53:25.320 --> 0:53:27.400
<v Speaker 1>we know, he has a vinctant love in his life.

0:53:27.400 --> 0:53:28.880
<v Speaker 1>That's like I don't give a share what you do,

0:53:28.920 --> 0:53:30.880
<v Speaker 1>but you do not admit to knowing this person, like

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<v Speaker 1>this will ruin your rap career blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, there's you know, plenty.

0:53:35.719 --> 0:53:39.000
<v Speaker 1>Of literature out there about like the deep, you know,

0:53:39.080 --> 0:53:41.920
<v Speaker 1>homophobia in the hip hop community and stuff, which I

0:53:41.960 --> 0:53:44.120
<v Speaker 1>know certain rappers like Frank Ocean and stuff people are

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<v Speaker 1>trying to really work on.

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<v Speaker 3>The people are mean.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm obsessed with Little nas X and people

0:53:49.440 --> 0:53:52.879
<v Speaker 2>are mean to him online. I follow him and people. Yeah,

0:53:52.920 --> 0:53:56.000
<v Speaker 2>he handles there so well and funny, but I'm sure

0:53:56.000 --> 0:53:58.319
<v Speaker 2>it takes a toll on you and people. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't get ill say awful things to me on

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<v Speaker 2>the internet all the time.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, No, the Internet's garbage.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, let's get excited for our guests.

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<v Speaker 4>All right. Time for our guests, Lisa.

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<v Speaker 1>You know that we have a quest to egot on

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<v Speaker 1>this show, to have an Emmy, Grammy Oscar and a

0:54:24.600 --> 0:54:25.200
<v Speaker 1>Tony winner.

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<v Speaker 4>And today we are knocking that g right out of

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<v Speaker 4>the way.

0:54:28.480 --> 0:54:32.759
<v Speaker 1>We have a three time Grammy winner, a musical superstar

0:54:32.880 --> 0:54:36.719
<v Speaker 1>sensation who I truly have been obsessed with since college.

0:54:37.000 --> 0:54:39.239
<v Speaker 1>He is working on an animated Netflix film called The

0:54:39.280 --> 0:54:42.359
<v Speaker 1>Prince of porta prince about his life and can't wait

0:54:42.400 --> 0:54:44.640
<v Speaker 1>to check that out. And I bet you guys cannot

0:54:44.640 --> 0:54:46.440
<v Speaker 1>wait to check out our interview with the one and

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<v Speaker 1>only hy Clef Jean. This is fantastic I mean, we

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<v Speaker 1>obviously up top have to just like take a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of minutes and like tell you what huge fans we are.

0:54:56.960 --> 0:54:59.480
<v Speaker 1>Like the Eclectic album is truly the soundtrack of my

0:54:59.560 --> 0:55:02.279
<v Speaker 1>college years. Like we're my friends, and I were so

0:55:02.320 --> 0:55:05.319
<v Speaker 1>obsessed with you it was it's embarrassing actually to kind

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<v Speaker 1>of tell you.

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<v Speaker 4>Came to my school.

0:55:07.760 --> 0:55:10.960
<v Speaker 1>You came to Trinity College and performed, and two of

0:55:10.960 --> 0:55:13.160
<v Speaker 1>my friends got up and sang. One of them did

0:55:13.200 --> 0:55:15.239
<v Speaker 1>the Hope my Name is HOPEO rap with you on

0:55:15.320 --> 0:55:17.200
<v Speaker 1>Perfect Gentlemen, and the other one sang the Mary j

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<v Speaker 1>part on nine one one. So my friends were very

0:55:20.360 --> 0:55:22.960
<v Speaker 1>very Wycleff centric fans beautiful.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I lip sync to the Fujis at a

0:55:26.680 --> 0:55:31.040
<v Speaker 2>talent show in third grade, so we're in overalls.

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<v Speaker 9>So you know, it's real cool about that is because

0:55:35.440 --> 0:55:38.200
<v Speaker 9>it's like, you know, as like a kid, like you're

0:55:38.239 --> 0:55:42.279
<v Speaker 9>doing music and you do them like in sections, so

0:55:42.719 --> 0:55:46.759
<v Speaker 9>you'd be like, okay, Fujis my high school years, you

0:55:46.800 --> 0:55:49.719
<v Speaker 9>know what I mean, And you'd be like, Okay, I'm

0:55:49.719 --> 0:55:53.440
<v Speaker 9>in this college dorm, like you know, what what are

0:55:53.440 --> 0:55:55.480
<v Speaker 9>we going to do? Then we build a college band,

0:55:55.560 --> 0:55:58.840
<v Speaker 9>you know, right? So yo let's just do it. I

0:55:58.880 --> 0:56:01.440
<v Speaker 9>would make it sound like a album. So it's just

0:56:01.520 --> 0:56:05.040
<v Speaker 9>dope that, you know, to just hear these stories because

0:56:05.400 --> 0:56:07.759
<v Speaker 9>the music really connect to who we was trying to

0:56:07.760 --> 0:56:08.440
<v Speaker 9>connect it to.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, Yeah, we were like obsessed.

0:56:11.520 --> 0:56:13.560
<v Speaker 1>I just re listened to it like this week and

0:56:13.719 --> 0:56:17.120
<v Speaker 1>was like, there's just not a bad track on a Kleftic.

0:56:17.160 --> 0:56:19.280
<v Speaker 4>I just love it so much. It's such a great album.

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<v Speaker 2>But but now we're going to talk about Vincent Love

0:56:23.800 --> 0:56:26.239
<v Speaker 2>Evil that man, so.

0:56:26.160 --> 0:56:28.640
<v Speaker 4>We yeah, we obviously brought you here not just to.

0:56:28.920 --> 0:56:31.480
<v Speaker 1>Gush about how much we love your music, but your

0:56:31.640 --> 0:56:34.160
<v Speaker 1>turn as an actor, which obviously you've acted in a

0:56:34.160 --> 0:56:35.239
<v Speaker 1>few things, but this is.

0:56:35.200 --> 0:56:38.279
<v Speaker 4>The one we're the most interested in. How did this

0:56:38.640 --> 0:56:39.240
<v Speaker 4>come about?

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<v Speaker 1>Like had you like been interested in doing the show

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<v Speaker 1>or did they just like come to you with this

0:56:43.960 --> 0:56:46.360
<v Speaker 1>character or like what was the what was the story?

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<v Speaker 9>Well, for me, it's sort of like I would say,

0:56:49.960 --> 0:56:54.359
<v Speaker 9>like Jamie Foxx, it started for me like that, but

0:56:54.440 --> 0:56:57.239
<v Speaker 9>you see how the acting worked for him and then

0:56:57.280 --> 0:57:00.560
<v Speaker 9>the music worked for me. So that's sort of like

0:57:00.600 --> 0:57:03.960
<v Speaker 9>the role. So when I first started off, I was

0:57:05.360 --> 0:57:08.600
<v Speaker 9>doing off Broadway like that was like one of my

0:57:08.680 --> 0:57:10.719
<v Speaker 9>gigs so I started off more.

0:57:10.760 --> 0:57:11.959
<v Speaker 5>People thought I was going to be.

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<v Speaker 9>Like a Broadway actor because I'm like very I'm like

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<v Speaker 9>my yeah, I tookle you know. I started doing something

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<v Speaker 9>called We did actually a Shakespearean version of the Twelfth Night,

0:57:26.680 --> 0:57:29.400
<v Speaker 9>and we took all of the characters. This is like

0:57:29.480 --> 0:57:32.360
<v Speaker 9>way before Hamilton, right, so I had to be like

0:57:32.640 --> 0:57:36.720
<v Speaker 9>sixteen seventeen and we did a hip hop musical. So

0:57:36.800 --> 0:57:40.240
<v Speaker 9>we took Shakespeare and flipped it like the Twelfth Night,

0:57:40.720 --> 0:57:43.320
<v Speaker 9>and this was like so ahead of its time. So

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<v Speaker 9>for me, I always identify with Shakespeare a lot because

0:57:49.680 --> 0:57:52.480
<v Speaker 9>growing up, like in the hood, it's like you read

0:57:52.560 --> 0:57:55.120
<v Speaker 9>to escape, you know what I mean, And it's sort

0:57:55.120 --> 0:57:57.720
<v Speaker 9>of like with Shakespeare, like you would escape and it

0:57:57.760 --> 0:57:59.680
<v Speaker 9>was sort of like playing a video game because it

0:57:59.760 --> 0:58:02.680
<v Speaker 9>was all these different rooms, all these different sets. So

0:58:02.760 --> 0:58:06.760
<v Speaker 9>the idea of acting has always been in my forefront.

0:58:06.760 --> 0:58:09.520
<v Speaker 9>But it just the music just took it the other way,

0:58:09.560 --> 0:58:11.840
<v Speaker 9>you know what I'm saying. Yeah, this it was just

0:58:11.880 --> 0:58:15.120
<v Speaker 9>a natural thing for me. I like the vibe, you know,

0:58:15.440 --> 0:58:18.760
<v Speaker 9>and I thought that I could bring something to it,

0:58:18.800 --> 0:58:19.439
<v Speaker 9>you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>We loved your delivery of the lines, like so unbothered

0:58:24.440 --> 0:58:27.880
<v Speaker 2>and like chill, and this is like did you work

0:58:27.920 --> 0:58:30.360
<v Speaker 2>on that? Was that natural? Was that directing? How did

0:58:30.400 --> 0:58:32.760
<v Speaker 2>you come up with that cadence and how he spoke?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, for me, it's sort of like so there's two

0:58:36.960 --> 0:58:37.800
<v Speaker 5>forms of acting.

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<v Speaker 9>And it's so funny because my daughter is sixteen and

0:58:40.800 --> 0:58:43.640
<v Speaker 9>I try to get her into everything, Like I was like, yo,

0:58:44.240 --> 0:58:46.160
<v Speaker 9>you're going to be put her in piano, put her

0:58:46.200 --> 0:58:51.680
<v Speaker 9>in dance, put her and she clearly was started bugging

0:58:51.720 --> 0:58:53.960
<v Speaker 9>me that I want to be an actress for the

0:58:54.040 --> 0:58:57.160
<v Speaker 9>past year. What is so funny about your question is

0:58:57.240 --> 0:58:59.400
<v Speaker 9>she was clear she was like, I'm going to do

0:59:00.400 --> 0:59:03.640
<v Speaker 9>like commercial acting, I'm going to do TV.

0:59:04.120 --> 0:59:05.680
<v Speaker 5>I'm gonna and she was like I'm not. I don't

0:59:05.720 --> 0:59:06.240
<v Speaker 5>really want.

0:59:06.120 --> 0:59:09.240
<v Speaker 9>To do theater, which was kind of interesting for someone

0:59:09.280 --> 0:59:12.640
<v Speaker 9>to be so young. So at a very young age,

0:59:12.920 --> 0:59:16.840
<v Speaker 9>I understood, you know, with the camera, the subtle is

0:59:16.840 --> 0:59:17.680
<v Speaker 9>where it works.

0:59:17.480 --> 0:59:18.240
<v Speaker 5>At you know what I mean.

0:59:18.280 --> 0:59:22.760
<v Speaker 9>So for me, it was very natural as this conversation

0:59:23.200 --> 0:59:25.080
<v Speaker 9>because a lot of people be thinking like when the

0:59:25.080 --> 0:59:27.240
<v Speaker 9>cameras is on, if you could transmit I mean, the

0:59:27.280 --> 0:59:29.280
<v Speaker 9>people can't see us, they could just hear us, but

0:59:29.320 --> 0:59:34.160
<v Speaker 9>if you could transmit this simplicity of this zen that's

0:59:34.200 --> 0:59:37.240
<v Speaker 9>what we all are, you know, So it was pretty cool.

0:59:37.520 --> 0:59:39.920
<v Speaker 1>Before you did a SVU, Like, had you been a

0:59:39.960 --> 0:59:42.200
<v Speaker 1>fan of the show, did you like know Ice Tea

0:59:42.240 --> 0:59:44.840
<v Speaker 1>through the music industry, Like, was there any connection to

0:59:44.880 --> 0:59:46.880
<v Speaker 1>the show like pre doing it.

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<v Speaker 5>Ice Tea is the godfather, you know what.

0:59:51.080 --> 0:59:52.240
<v Speaker 4>We know? We love him.

0:59:52.800 --> 0:59:55.600
<v Speaker 5>Nobody don't know no Ice Tea. Iced Tea.

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<v Speaker 9>I've toured with him before, you know, I've done shows

0:59:58.360 --> 1:00:01.160
<v Speaker 9>with him before, just like a huge fan of his.

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<v Speaker 9>And it's because like of Iced Tea that like you

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<v Speaker 9>don't want to put yourself in a box, you know,

1:00:08.960 --> 1:00:10.960
<v Speaker 9>like he shows you like you could be from a

1:00:11.040 --> 1:00:14.600
<v Speaker 9>rural area. And when it comes to the idea of

1:00:14.760 --> 1:00:18.840
<v Speaker 9>like show business, don't take one part of the game

1:00:18.920 --> 1:00:21.960
<v Speaker 9>it's so big. Just take the entire thing and have

1:00:22.040 --> 1:00:24.400
<v Speaker 9>fun with it. That's what I learned from Ice Team.

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<v Speaker 2>You've collaborated with Ludacris and he's one of our favorite

1:00:27.640 --> 1:00:30.440
<v Speaker 2>cameos on SVU two. Did you guys talk about his

1:00:30.600 --> 1:00:32.680
<v Speaker 2>SVU episode? Do you have lots of friends who've done

1:00:32.800 --> 1:00:34.360
<v Speaker 2>SVU episodes.

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<v Speaker 9>Well, shout out to Ludacris. You know, I know a

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<v Speaker 9>lot of people that have done a SVU and it's

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<v Speaker 9>sort of like a great palette because what it does

1:00:46.760 --> 1:00:52.160
<v Speaker 9>is it shows the entertainer like in a completely different form.

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<v Speaker 5>Luda is very brilliant at what he does.

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<v Speaker 7>You know.

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<v Speaker 9>I'm also you know, we've been in the studio together.

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<v Speaker 9>He's like a real like calm dude, like and you know,

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<v Speaker 9>like behind like talks and the soft and then when

1:01:05.960 --> 1:01:09.120
<v Speaker 9>he turned jumps on stage, he just turns into this maniac.

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<v Speaker 5>Pretty incredible.

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<v Speaker 2>And you were a music exact and you've played a

1:01:14.080 --> 1:01:17.040
<v Speaker 2>music exec in Nashville before. Is there.

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<v Speaker 4>Anyone that you based this character on or that character on?

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<v Speaker 1>You must have met some evil music executives that you

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<v Speaker 1>based this on.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, I left.

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<v Speaker 9>I came from Haiti when I was ten years old,

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<v Speaker 9>and I grew up in Marlboro Projects in Coney Island,

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<v Speaker 9>and you know, at the time the project was ran

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<v Speaker 9>by the mob, you know what I mean, and just

1:01:39.600 --> 1:01:43.240
<v Speaker 9>a little kid barely could speak English trying to figure

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<v Speaker 9>out the world. So I think, like the Feds, this

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<v Speaker 9>is a real story. I think the Feds called me

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<v Speaker 9>hs Haitian Sinatra. So my entire life, I've been like

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<v Speaker 9>like half of my my crew is gangsters. You feel

1:02:00.920 --> 1:02:03.640
<v Speaker 9>like I came up, but you know, I was not

1:02:03.760 --> 1:02:07.440
<v Speaker 9>into that. I just wanted to sing new y'all new.

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<v Speaker 5>And going, like.

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<v Speaker 9>Growing up in the music business, there's a whole dark

1:02:15.280 --> 1:02:16.880
<v Speaker 9>side to it, you know what I mean. So there's

1:02:16.920 --> 1:02:22.520
<v Speaker 9>a whole like mob orientated street side to it. So

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<v Speaker 9>I mean all I did was like literally just channeled

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<v Speaker 9>like one of the conversations I probably heard or seen

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<v Speaker 9>the person come to my room, you know, or.

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<v Speaker 5>Because you know, mobsters are very sinister, but they're funny

1:02:41.400 --> 1:02:44.080
<v Speaker 5>and they're like chess players, like you never know where

1:02:44.120 --> 1:02:47.440
<v Speaker 5>they're going and then at the end you just get whacked,

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<v Speaker 5>you know. So it was sort of like to give

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<v Speaker 5>people and they're very charismatic, like you just be like, oh,

1:02:53.200 --> 1:02:55.760
<v Speaker 5>I want to hang with this person until they hit

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<v Speaker 5>you in the head with a back.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 9>It was just channeling some of the dark side of

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<v Speaker 9>the music business that I came up with.

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<v Speaker 5>You know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>Is there a character that you are dying to play

1:03:09.440 --> 1:03:11.360
<v Speaker 2>or you want to play in the future that's not

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<v Speaker 2>a record exec I'm.

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<v Speaker 9>Very conflicted right because I right now I'm working on

1:03:20.280 --> 1:03:24.600
<v Speaker 9>my movie for Netflix. Print supporter Prince oh, which would

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<v Speaker 9>be about the first ten years of my life. How

1:03:26.640 --> 1:03:30.600
<v Speaker 9>you escape poverty through imagination. And it's going to be

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<v Speaker 9>like on the level of the Lion King. You know,

1:03:34.320 --> 1:03:38.600
<v Speaker 9>everyone listening, you hear what the sound of Haiti sound like?

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<v Speaker 5>We plan to give you words to sing along with.

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<v Speaker 9>So I've always been interested in the idea of composing

1:03:47.720 --> 1:03:52.800
<v Speaker 9>and scoring. So what always happens is with the seriousness

1:03:52.800 --> 1:03:55.680
<v Speaker 9>of an actor or an actress, you have to put

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<v Speaker 9>the same amount of time that you put in like

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<v Speaker 9>you know what I mean. It's like if I sold

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<v Speaker 9>like one hundred million records I did Shakira, I did

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<v Speaker 9>all of that. Like if I was trying to do

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<v Speaker 9>a movie with Will Smith, I probably would have never

1:04:08.720 --> 1:04:11.920
<v Speaker 9>did that because the same time that Will Smith requires

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<v Speaker 9>to do that film, I'm required to be in this

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<v Speaker 9>studio if I'm trying to make magic, you know. So

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<v Speaker 9>that probably would have been the conflict. The role that

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<v Speaker 9>I knew that I would have killed that I passed

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<v Speaker 9>on because I was in the studio. I think at

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<v Speaker 9>the time I probably was working with Whitney Houston. I

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<v Speaker 9>think a role came and I knew I would have

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<v Speaker 9>killed the role. It was Last King of Scotland, and

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<v Speaker 9>oh yeah, it was ill because I would have played

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<v Speaker 9>an Ed. I mean, I'm like real good with impersonation.

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<v Speaker 9>I was like going to play an Ed, I mean

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<v Speaker 9>like one of his ministers. So you know, they tell

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<v Speaker 9>me I have to talk in this kind of accents.

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<v Speaker 10>So for me, oh, this is a natural accent because

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<v Speaker 10>where I come from, this is a lot of the

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<v Speaker 10>accent how people talk. But you see the place where

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<v Speaker 10>d I mean come the accent more deep. You see

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<v Speaker 10>your voice going more deep like that. So our auditioned

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<v Speaker 10>for the college, I felt that it was good. But

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<v Speaker 10>then I asked the people, I say, how long you

1:05:07.480 --> 1:05:11.560
<v Speaker 10>have to be in Africa? The seven months? I said, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 10>I can't do that. I have to be a video

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<v Speaker 10>with Whitney Houston, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>So, oh my god, was that to do My Love

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<v Speaker 4>is Your Love? Yes, oh my god, one of the best,

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<v Speaker 4>one of the best songs in the world.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you that, you know. But for sure I plan

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<v Speaker 5>in the future.

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<v Speaker 9>But now my focus is as a composer, focusing on

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<v Speaker 9>music that can penetrate the soul more as a composer,

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<v Speaker 9>So I'm very excited about that.

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<v Speaker 2>In your career, you have covered a lot of songs.

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<v Speaker 2>Is there a song you haven't covered yet that you

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<v Speaker 2>want to?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh? Man, I'm like obsessed with covers.

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<v Speaker 9>I think like I might indoor karaoke maniac and no

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<v Speaker 9>one knows that.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 1>One of our other questions on our list is what's

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<v Speaker 1>your what's your karaoke song?

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<v Speaker 4>We wanted to know what's your go to karaoke song?

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<v Speaker 9>God, you're going to trip out. It's yes, owner of

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<v Speaker 9>a lone knee Heart straight high School.

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<v Speaker 5>That's a great one.

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<v Speaker 2>So during the pandemic, have you been karaokeing in your

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<v Speaker 2>house a lot? Is that what y kluff has been doing?

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<v Speaker 9>I definitely get down. We got the karaoke. Karaoke is

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<v Speaker 9>very very serious. You know, when you take the mic,

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<v Speaker 9>you know, we expect you to take this as if

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<v Speaker 9>you are performing at the Grammys at the crib.

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<v Speaker 5>We take karaoke very seriously.

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<v Speaker 1>You've worked with like so many like famous people. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you think there's anybody that you've worked with her that

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<v Speaker 1>you're friends with that would be a great SVU edition

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<v Speaker 1>someone to be a good character on his view?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my god, she would be amazing.

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<v Speaker 5>She's definitely. She's the truth.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if this is true, but I read

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<v Speaker 2>in an article that she likes to mix Funians and

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<v Speaker 2>Cheetos together, and then so then I started doing that

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<v Speaker 2>because she did that. I don't know if that's something

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<v Speaker 2>you've ever seen.

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<v Speaker 3>That is actual.

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<v Speaker 4>No, she's a legend for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>This has been incredible.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, thank you so much for taking the time to

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<v Speaker 1>talk to us. This was amazing. Probably too much information,

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<v Speaker 1>but I did have my first kiss to no woman,

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<v Speaker 1>no cry from the fujis, So in case you're in

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<v Speaker 1>case you wanted to know, at a summer camp dance.

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<v Speaker 8>Oh my god, yes, yes, thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 4>That just literally blew my mind.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what I'm going to do with the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of my day.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm dead, so I can't do a post more.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you do a post morem on me? Because I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a deceased person and.

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<v Speaker 2>Remix y clef first kiss Kara song, I mean he

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<v Speaker 2>likes I can't believe he just grabbed a guitar and

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<v Speaker 2>started singing to you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm literally still friends with the guy I had my

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<v Speaker 1>first kiss with.

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<v Speaker 4>I like have to send this to him.

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<v Speaker 1>I also need to tell you guys that while we

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<v Speaker 1>could only play ten seconds of this song for you legally,

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<v Speaker 1>why Cleff actually did serenade us for two full minutes

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<v Speaker 1>or more and fully changed the lyrics to be about

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<v Speaker 1>me and my summer camp first kiss, and it was

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<v Speaker 1>I was like on another planet. It was amazing, And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really upset that there are copyright laws in this country.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, who else in this planet has gotten a private

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<v Speaker 2>concert from Yclef Jean on Zoom?

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<v Speaker 4>We might be the only ones that we didn't pay for.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, No, and I did take a music business class once,

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<v Speaker 2>and yeah, laws suck and we wish we could have

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<v Speaker 2>shared more.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's our special secret.

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<v Speaker 2>It was really good and I'm really glad I learned

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<v Speaker 2>that Mary Jabel that it is a true fact.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm not just eating Cheetos.

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<v Speaker 2>And Funians together in Vain, you know, I'm just trying

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<v Speaker 2>to be like Mary.

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<v Speaker 4>That was amazing. No, he is a fucking legend. I

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<v Speaker 4>love him. He's accomplished so much. He didn't have to

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<v Speaker 4>do this podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just like such a nice lesson to see someone

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<v Speaker 2>so huge want to keep working, be passionate, gracious, nice.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's like so nice to see that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, don't ever be too cool for school. That's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of what the lesson is there. But what did we

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<v Speaker 1>learn from this episode Lisa post mortem? I mean, first

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<v Speaker 1>of all, I guess our huge takeaway is that there's

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<v Speaker 1>nothing wrong with loving a trans person. You can do

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<v Speaker 1>that and that is perfectly fine, and everyone needs to

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<v Speaker 1>stop being the blonde woman from this episode about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, can't wait for a post gender world. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like such a simple lesson, but it's like, fuck,

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<v Speaker 2>let people live.

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<v Speaker 3>Damn, Like, I know so much pain.

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<v Speaker 2>And this guy is also the no snitching rule is

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<v Speaker 2>not real, Like snitch, don't go to jail for twenty don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Go to jail for twenty five years for a music

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<v Speaker 1>executive that doesn't give a shit about you, who's literally

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<v Speaker 1>just gonna make money on your shit while you're gone.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, maybe you'll get good commissary, but nothing

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<v Speaker 2>will make up for freedom.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>No, that it really was like a bad bad decisions

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<v Speaker 1>all around from hype.

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<v Speaker 4>Unfortunately.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just gonna say, in terms of the real case,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the same thing. I mean, the real like quote

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<v Speaker 1>unquote scandal is literally about someone hiding the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>they might be in a relationship with a transperson, which

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<v Speaker 1>is not okay and not shouldn't be something that happens,

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<v Speaker 1>and we shouldn't, like, I don't know, we just shouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>sensationalize it with in media and blogs of like oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god, can you like, I don't know. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>we're obviously always going to care about celebrities cheating on

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<v Speaker 1>their on their significant others. We're always going to care

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<v Speaker 1>about that. Unfortunately.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was about to say, I'm gonna be a

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<v Speaker 2>giant hypocrite cause I'm gonna be like, don't gossip, stop gossiping, And.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like that least I sustain myself on gossip. It's

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<v Speaker 4>my food. And yeah, I guess that's kind of it.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, this is a little bit of a more,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's like the music industry.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a little bit. It's not like an every man's.

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<v Speaker 1>Story, you know, this is there's not I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>as many as many lessons you can take and put

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<v Speaker 1>into your regular life as in some like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>another episode, but.

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<v Speaker 3>I have one.

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<v Speaker 4>If you're going to have kids, be like Eva's parents

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<v Speaker 4>and support.

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<v Speaker 1>Them, Yes, exactly. I loved Eva's parents. They were so sweet,

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<v Speaker 1>so yeah, whatever. My kid comes to me and tells

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<v Speaker 1>me that she's anything, I accept it.

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<v Speaker 4>I accept her for anything.

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<v Speaker 2>If you are dating someone, you cannot pretend not to

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<v Speaker 2>know them in public.

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<v Speaker 3>No, that is a lesson too.

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<v Speaker 2>If you've had sex with someone, you cannot ignore them

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<v Speaker 2>in public.

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<v Speaker 3>You cannot do that. That is crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I would just say, like we all have a

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<v Speaker 1>lot to learn about trans writes and like transphobia is rampant,

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<v Speaker 1>and we really I just would encourage everyone listening to

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<v Speaker 1>sort of just do some research, like think, like read

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<v Speaker 1>about it. I know it's confusing when people are like,

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<v Speaker 1>well do I don't know how to say? They them,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't know how to do he she and

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<v Speaker 1>they like whatever, like when someone is changing their pronouns.

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<v Speaker 1>You just have to work on it and try because

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<v Speaker 1>we have to do this as a society.

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<v Speaker 4>This is the reality.

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<v Speaker 2>And you fuck up all the time, but if your

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<v Speaker 2>heart is open, it's like it's you know, like everyone

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<v Speaker 2>in that episode was so on purpose being the worst,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's like you don't have to be if you're trying,

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<v Speaker 2>it's okay to fuck up sometimes, like it's but you

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<v Speaker 2>need to be trying.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, And Now it is time for what would

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<v Speaker 1>Sister Peg Do? This is our weekly segment where we

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<v Speaker 1>point you towards organizations, resources articles that can shed some

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<v Speaker 1>more light on the topics that we've covered in today's episode. Today,

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<v Speaker 1>we would like to direct you all to the trans Lifeline.

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<v Speaker 1>That is translfeline dot org. It is run by and

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<v Speaker 2>You can watch that on Hulu and Peacock and we

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<v Speaker 2>cannot wait to see you next week.

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