1 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:09,559 Speaker 1: Welcome to another Cults Over Time podcast, this time being 2 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,959 Speaker 1: recorded on remote in location if you will. We are 3 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: recording this moments after the second day of the Draft 4 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, Rounds two and rounds three just concluded. 5 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: We're at Kilroy's in Broad Ripple in Indianapolis, the site 6 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 1: of tonight's Colts draft party, and what a night it was. 7 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: Rick Van Terry, you are listen. Body language of everything, okay. 8 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: Plus I can read you like a book anyways like 9 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: you are. You're a happy guy. Tonight home run, grand slam, 10 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 1: whatever other cliche you want to use. You're ecstatic. I 11 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:47,839 Speaker 1: am ecstatic. You know. I've had a lot of conversations 12 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:51,319 Speaker 1: with Chris, but you know the way I felt if 13 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: you could have told me tonight to draw three players 14 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 1: you want, I would have said Pierce to Lady Woods 15 00:00:57,040 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 1: and Raymond. I really wouldn't matter what. I would have 16 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 1: no matter what. And you know what I mean. If 17 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 1: you listen to our podcast, people know that I said 18 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 1: that before. You know this was tremendous. I was a 19 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 1: doubting Thomas. I'll admit it. When we moved back. Ye see, 20 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:14,559 Speaker 1: the body language is everything, right. So when the Colts 21 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 1: moved back from forty two to fifty three. Oh, I 22 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 1: dove in the jar. You were not on board with it. 23 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 1: I was in the jar because I don't like it, 24 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:25,320 Speaker 1: and I thought, all right, we're gonna blow Pierce. That's 25 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:27,839 Speaker 1: what I thought. I thought, we love Pierce, We're gonna 26 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 1: blow it. But obviously that's where Chris has such a 27 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 1: good feel and his staff for the league, and they 28 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 1: you kind of knew exactly where Pierce would be. So 29 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 1: they moved back and they get the same guy on 30 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:43,839 Speaker 1: fifty three that I'm gonna draft on forty two. Plus 31 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: they pick up seventy seven, which now gives us Raymond, 32 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 1: which now helps to fill the need at least at 33 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 1: depth at left tackle. With the idea that he has, 34 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 1: he has the ability to be a starter. He might 35 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 1: be a little bit of a developmental guy because of 36 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 1: his football background, but he's another freak athletically. One thing 37 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say about this these three guys tonight, these 38 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 1: three guys are freaks athletically. And I'm not like the 39 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:13,079 Speaker 1: old school coaches. I am a metric guy. I am 40 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 1: in some respects, I'm a scout first and as I 41 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 1: Ballard and I get along. So I'm a scout first, 42 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 1: and I look for metrics plus tape because I know 43 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 1: how important they are. And when you take you take 44 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:31,079 Speaker 1: a wide receiver, you know four one forty forty ins 45 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:34,920 Speaker 1: vertical jump, four two eight short shuttle, and good tape. 46 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: Guy that can fly, you come back with a tight end. 47 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:40,239 Speaker 1: You just gave him the most valuable player in history 48 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:43,919 Speaker 1: with the athletic quotion two seventy five at sixty seven 49 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 1: four six one. And now we come with an offensive 50 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:51,119 Speaker 1: tackle who runs a five flat forty but more importantly 51 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 1: has a four four nine short shuttle, which is the 52 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:58,080 Speaker 1: measure of great quickness, which I think he has a 53 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: tremendous upside the developmentally, he's got to get a little 54 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 1: bit more anchor. But the biggest thing he has is 55 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 1: he can get out in space and play against the 56 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 1: fast guys you're going to protect against. So again, yeah, 57 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: I just I don't know that I've ever been happier 58 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 1: walking out of a draft room on one point the 59 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 1: second night. There's no question about it. Now everybody has 60 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 1: to prove it. Matt Ryan has to prove it. These 61 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 1: guys have to prove it. But from all the work 62 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 1: that I put in this winner. Like I said No one, 63 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 1: that we didn't have a number one. I couldn't be 64 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: more pleased with this. All right, Well, let's take things 65 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 1: in order. To begin the evening, the Colts were scheduled 66 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 1: to pick at forty two. You've heard this a thousand 67 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 1: times by now, we've done our updates on radio. But 68 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 1: the Colts traded back with the Minnesota Vikings. They traded 69 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 1: forty two and pick one twenty two with the Vikings. 70 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 1: In return, the Colts got picked fifty three seventy seven 71 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 1: in the third round and one ninety two, which will 72 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 1: be coming up tomorrow in the sixth round on Day 73 00:03:57,400 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: three of the draft. So at pick fifty three, let's 74 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: start there. Let's start with Alec Pierce. That's who the 75 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: Colts drafted with their first overall pick for them in 76 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 1: this draft, in the second round. Pierce is a guy. 77 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 1: How are you doing, sir? People are on there on 78 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 1: the way out here. Good to see you. Thanks for stopping. Bye. 79 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: We will indeed, we're at the draft party. We're at 80 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 1: the draft party, all right. Let's go over all right, 81 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: So Pierce led Cincinnati eighteen and a half yards per 82 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 1: catch in twenty but was limited to four starts in 83 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 1: six games due to a shoulder injury, came back second 84 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 1: team All American Athletic Conference in twenty twenty one, he 85 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 1: was the top receiver. They went on to make the 86 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:41,720 Speaker 1: final four the College Football Playoff. Fifty two catches, eight 87 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 1: hundred and eighty four yards average, seventeen yards per catch, 88 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 1: seven touchdowns in fourteen games, thirteen starts this past season. 89 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 1: Pretty intelligent guy. We'll get into that here in just 90 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 1: a little bit academic All American by SIDS across the country. 91 00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: You had this guy going to the Colts at forty two. 92 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 1: They still get him at fifty three, and by all 93 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:05,359 Speaker 1: accounts the way you evaluate things, he was your best 94 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:08,239 Speaker 1: receiver on your board, even though he was the eighth 95 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 1: receiver in totals. That's exactly right. I had four guys 96 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 1: rated maybe ahead of him, maybe, but he was definitely 97 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:19,720 Speaker 1: number five, which is puts him ahead of a lot 98 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 1: of the first round guys. The thing that he brings 99 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:26,919 Speaker 1: is several things. But for us, immediately we've got a 100 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:29,599 Speaker 1: good running game. We're gonna be a much better on 101 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 1: defense because of our drive, because of who we went 102 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 1: out and got in the offseason, and because we got 103 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 1: a defensive staff. I really like, what do we lack. 104 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 1: We lack explosive, dynamic passing game. Now we got the 105 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:46,480 Speaker 1: quarterback that can give it to us. We've got Pittman, 106 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 1: who's established as a solid NFL weekside receiver. Now what 107 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 1: you brought in here with Pierce is a definite take 108 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 1: the top off of the defense. He can go get it. 109 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 1: He'll compete on the fifty fifty ball. He'll run by you. 110 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:05,599 Speaker 1: He'll run by you in a second. When the Colts 111 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 1: worked him out in Cincinnati, they worked him out on 112 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 1: a lot of intermediate cuts in breaks, outbreaks, because you 113 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 1: didn't see a lot of that on tape, and they 114 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 1: felt really really good about that. So to me, what 115 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 1: we have now is we have now established a weapon 116 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:25,280 Speaker 1: on the outside of the numbers, much like t Y 117 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 1: was early in his career, except you got a big 118 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:30,599 Speaker 1: guy doing at sixty three to twelve and so now 119 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, when you have people on the 120 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 1: outside of the numbers, when you try to play that 121 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:40,479 Speaker 1: nine man box, you've got corners in trouble. So, now 122 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 1: what that does when you bring a guy like that 123 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 1: in that has that kind of speed, that's why I 124 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 1: love speed there is it stretches the defense both in 125 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 1: depth and in width. Okay, which then Jonathan Taylor's help 126 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 1: this guy in the world because he's not running into 127 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 1: the wall of China. Colts running game just got better 128 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 1: tonight as well, it just got better. If Pittman got better, 129 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:04,919 Speaker 1: everything got better. But again it's you know what you 130 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 1: and I would do the games and I would say 131 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:09,359 Speaker 1: to you, Matt, They're just they're just giving us outside 132 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: the numbers there, you know, and we never ever could capitalize, 133 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 1: whether it was quarterbacking, lack of those outside receivers. So 134 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: I mean, to me, I know we could have gone 135 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 1: a different direction, but to me, we were never going 136 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 1: to get better unless we got that element into passing game. Well, 137 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 1: we talked about this on air shortly after the pick 138 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 1: was made, when Alec Pierce was picked to the Colts. 139 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 1: In passing, you brought up t Y Hilton. What does 140 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 1: this do for t Y? They're still ongoing talks between 141 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 1: he and the Colts and Chris Ballard and free agency. 142 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 1: Is I mean, this is a pretty high profile, high 143 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: draft capital pick for a guy that's going to be 144 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 1: a long term Colt in the second round does this 145 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 1: kind of set the ship sailing away? If you're t 146 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 1: Y Hilton, I'm afraid it may be. And I am. 147 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 1: I have been the number one backer off t Y 148 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 1: Hilton throughout the years. I've always thought he was very underrated, 149 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 1: even locally. You know, he was always compared to Harrison 150 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 1: and and Reggie, and I always felt like he kind 151 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 1: of played in their shadow. The problem I see with Ty, 152 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: I don't see necessarily a tremendous diminishing in skill, but 153 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 1: it's just the fact that he's the durability factor. It 154 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 1: is just it just seems like, in whether it's practice 155 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 1: or whether it's a game, it just seems like the 156 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 1: minute that he gets takes the big hit, it's it's over. 157 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:34,679 Speaker 1: It's just over. And you know, availability is as important 158 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 1: as ability, and so now you've kind of gone to 159 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 1: the next step. You've got the same kind of player 160 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 1: as Ty, that vertical run by you deep comeback guy, 161 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 1: but now you've got it in a young fresh kid 162 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 1: at six three two twelve. All right, let's move down 163 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:55,680 Speaker 1: to Jelani Woods before we do that. He was a 164 00:08:55,800 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 1: mechanical engineer, that was his major in college, and he 165 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:03,079 Speaker 1: worked on he worked on race cars. I mean, this 166 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 1: guy's impressive. No, I mean academic, all American building cars. 167 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 1: You setting the world on a fire in college football 168 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 1: as a receiver. On one thing you know about Chris A. Ballard, 169 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:16,320 Speaker 1: you are going to get a guy. He's always said 170 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:20,199 Speaker 1: to me, you know, dumb guys get you beat. And 171 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 1: and and I actually I cleaned that up a little bit. 172 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 1: Us just say, dumb guys will get you beat. So 173 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:29,959 Speaker 1: very seldom are you gonna have a guy on this 174 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 1: football team that is not a very very smart guy 175 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:37,839 Speaker 1: and a high character football guy. So you know, whether 176 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 1: you want to argue that point or not, you're almost 177 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:43,959 Speaker 1: guaranteed with that. And so you know, in that sense, 178 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 1: he not only fits the cold's mold, but the thing 179 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: I like about him, he does it with great athleticism. 180 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 1: You know, I fit the cold mold, but I can't 181 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 1: run out of the parking or wait a minute, you know, 182 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:59,840 Speaker 1: give herself too much credit. But you know, but no, 183 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:03,200 Speaker 1: I mean I think all those things are pluses. He's 184 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:06,839 Speaker 1: a tough kid, he played special teams early. I mean, no, 185 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 1: it's just everything to like there, all right. At seventy three, 186 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: the Colts pick up very versatile tight end Gilani Woods 187 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: out of Virginia. We talked about this on the air tonight, 188 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 1: But there is the relative athletics score, right, that's a 189 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 1: metric that attempts to represent a prospect in their athleticism 190 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 1: with one single number between one and ten, and Woods 191 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 1: received a perfect ten. It's the highest score out of 192 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:35,319 Speaker 1: nine hundred and ninety eight tight ends measured between nineteen 193 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 1: eighty seven and two thousand and two. Former quarterback then 194 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:42,679 Speaker 1: he's a tight end, started his career at Oklahoma State, 195 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 1: really only had one big significant season in college. That 196 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 1: was this past season at Virginia where he had forty 197 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 1: four catches five hundred and ninety eight yards but eight touchdowns, 198 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 1: which led the ACC in terms of touchdowns by a 199 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:59,079 Speaker 1: tight end. But you don't care. One year is good 200 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 1: enough for you based on the athleticis well based on 201 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 1: the athleticism, and he's also a very good kid. But 202 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 1: you're talking about shooting for the moon here, you're talking 203 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 1: about six to seven. You're talking about two seventy, two, 204 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 1: seventy five and a four six one. I mean that's freakish. 205 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 1: And I've seen I'm seeing him adjust to the ball. 206 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 1: You know, he's got NBA wingspan. For God's sakes, he's 207 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 1: been an edge blocker. He knows how to do that. 208 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 1: But he can stretch the field. He can get downfield. 209 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 1: So what you pick up here is in Piers in Julaney, 210 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 1: you pick up two explosive guys who can again stretch it, 211 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:46,440 Speaker 1: move the defense back and out, okay, which then gives 212 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:51,680 Speaker 1: our superstar much more daylight, you know. So again it's 213 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 1: all like dominoes. And again the fact that it just 214 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 1: kind of fell to us because we always say the 215 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:02,079 Speaker 1: draft comes to you. I do believe that, and if 216 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 1: you have him ranked properly, it usually comes to you. Well. 217 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 1: So I'm very confident that we have these guys ranked well. 218 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:11,439 Speaker 1: All right. We always hear about in in Frank Reich's offense, 219 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:14,319 Speaker 1: there's the F tight end and the Y tight end. 220 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 1: Where's Jilani Wood. I think he's I think he's an 221 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 1: all purpose guy. I think he's a guy that can 222 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:23,439 Speaker 1: play three downs for you know, he's if it's a 223 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 1: fishing block. If you didn't have him right now, you 224 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 1: would play with Alie Cox as your stud tight end 225 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 1: and you would play Grandson as your versatile Uh, that's 226 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 1: the F tight hybrid the f tight end. Yeah, but 227 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 1: I think in in Jilani, you have a guy who 228 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 1: he's a little he's still a little bit raw at 229 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 1: tight end, but as he develops, he's a guy that 230 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 1: can play first down in the regular stuff and be 231 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 1: the blocker, but stay in on third down. And that's 232 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 1: a big advantage if you have a tight end receiver 233 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 1: that can play and still block, which which I don't. 234 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:03,440 Speaker 1: I'm I'm not convinced that either Ali Cox or Granson 235 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 1: could do both. You know, they're they're they're they're decent 236 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 1: at one. But this kid has the ability to beat 237 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 1: the three down threat both as a receiver and a blocker. 238 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 1: So they want to play with two tight ends on 239 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:17,439 Speaker 1: the field at the same time and not tip their 240 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 1: hand formationally runner past. They've they've accomplished that. I think so. 241 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 1: And I think what you're gonna see a lot of 242 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 1: coming up is you're gonna see a lot of what 243 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 1: I call fast regular I begged for this for two 244 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:34,319 Speaker 1: years and now I'm starting to hear a lot about it, 245 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:38,199 Speaker 1: and that is two wide receivers, a good tight end, 246 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 1: and use Hines as the swing guy, Hines as slot 247 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:47,599 Speaker 1: motion back in the backfield. Wildcat doesn't take away the 248 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 1: reason you want to play him. You want to play 249 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:53,439 Speaker 1: him with Jonathan. You want you don't want to substitute 250 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:55,199 Speaker 1: him for Jonathan because you don't want to take it 251 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 1: he plays away from Jonathan. But now when you put 252 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 1: Hines in instead out of the third wide out, what 253 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:03,959 Speaker 1: you do now is you make the defense to make 254 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 1: a decision. Do we stay regular, do we go Nickel? 255 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 1: If you go Nickel, very simple, you're running the ball 256 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 1: to Jonathan against smaller guys. If they stay regular, you 257 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 1: got highs in there, one on one, and I think 258 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 1: you're gonna see an expansion of that kind of stuff 259 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 1: this year. Now you put Pittman on one edge and 260 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 1: you put the fast guy on the other edge. Pretty 261 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 1: good looking team, all right. Then elsewhere in the third 262 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 1: round at pick number seventy seven, another one of your guys, 263 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 1: Bernard Raymond, offensive tackle out of Central Michigan, another very 264 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 1: versatile athletic guys. Started his career as a tight end, 265 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 1: called twenty passes for one hundred and sixty four yards 266 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen and twenty nineteen. Then he moved to 267 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 1: left tackle in twenty started all six games in that 268 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 1: condensed pandemic shortened season, started twelve games in twenty twenty one. 269 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 1: Named first team All Mid American Conference player. He's a guy, 270 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 1: He's an interesting guy. He is from Austria, kind of 271 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 1: went bounced back and forth a little bit from Austria 272 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 1: to the States and high school. Eventually landed in the 273 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 1: United States for football. And he is another athletics score freak. 274 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 1: He ranked seventeenth out of more than twelve hundred offensive 275 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 1: tackle prospects measured since nineteen eighty seven. His biggest strength 276 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 1: as defeat another guy that you had to the Colts 277 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 1: around forty two. You certainly had him there at fifty 278 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 1: three and then they get him at seventy seven. When 279 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 1: we did the podcast last week, my statement was is 280 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 1: we would probably be making the decision if it was 281 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 1: my team between Raymond and Pearce at forty two. I mean, 282 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 1: that's how much I thought of him. I thought he 283 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 1: was I didn't think he was as physical as Smith, 284 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 1: who went in the first round, but I thought he 285 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 1: was a better athlete than Smith. And if you look 286 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 1: at the numbers, they're there. This is a kid again, 287 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 1: tremendous upside. Okay, this is a kid that doesn't have 288 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 1: the big football background. He's gonna learn it, he's gonna 289 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 1: get better. But he has what you can't coach. You 290 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 1: can't coach that athleticism. Costanzo had it. This guy is 291 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 1: very much like Costanzo athletically. He didn't have the football 292 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 1: background Anthony did coming out, but he's very much like 293 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 1: him physically. It's almost exactly the same across the board. 294 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 1: And with the strengths, there are some weaknesses with him. 295 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 1: He's got to learn how to anchor. He's a guy 296 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 1: right now that can play in space, but if you 297 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 1: start him up and come down hard on him, he's 298 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 1: got to learn how to anchor and hold. And Anthony 299 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 1: frankly had to do that, and there were times every 300 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 1: once in a while that would get away from him. 301 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 1: But what I like about him is, again, you're getting 302 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 1: a guy that is an athletic free I've always said 303 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 1: as a coach, give me that guy, I'll straighten out 304 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 1: the rest of it. But I can't coach explosiveness, speed 305 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 1: or that kind of lightning quickness. I can't do it. 306 00:16:57,160 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 1: Can I coach you footwork, hand placement, you know, those 307 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 1: kinds of things. Even maybe toughness, a little bit. Yeah, 308 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 1: I can do that. So again, what I'm thrilled about 309 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:11,199 Speaker 1: is we got three in some ways athletic freaks. So 310 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 1: if you had to play a game today, Matt Pryor 311 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 1: is probably your starting left tackle. Where is Raymond? It 312 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 1: does as we progress through the off season workout program, 313 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 1: we get to OTAs we get to the mandatory mini 314 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:27,119 Speaker 1: camp and training camp. Will he continue to creep up? 315 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 1: Is he a viable contender for left tackle as a rookie? 316 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:33,400 Speaker 1: He'll be the backup till we face a good rusher, 317 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 1: which will be really quick. You take that as you 318 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 1: I just don't. I don't see Prior with the twitch 319 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 1: to hang out there. I mean, and I like Prior. 320 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 1: I think Prior is a great swing man and could 321 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 1: be right tackle. But I think you're gonna have I mean, 322 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 1: just let's take Jacksonville, who's not you know, we think 323 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 1: of Jacksonville as a step child. I mean, they just 324 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:03,439 Speaker 1: went out and drafted Walker number one, and they just 325 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 1: picked up the option on Josh Allen on the other side. 326 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:09,880 Speaker 1: I mean, you talk about two as rushers formidable all 327 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 1: day long, right, you know, And that's just one game 328 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 1: after another after another, So you know, I mean, I 329 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 1: just think it's they're gonna have to bring him along quick, 330 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 1: and they're gonna have to strengthen him up. I'd like 331 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 1: to see him go from about three h three to 332 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 1: about three twenty five. All right, it's Rick Venturi. This 333 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:29,159 Speaker 1: is overtime recapping Day two of the drafts. So the 334 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 1: Colts traded back. They pick up Alec Pier said A Cincinnati. 335 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 1: Then it's Jilani Woods at seventy three out of Virginia. 336 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 1: At seventy seven, it's Bernard and Raymond offensive tackle at 337 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 1: A Central Michigan. Then after pick seventy seven, we thought 338 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 1: the Colts might be done for the night. But o 339 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:51,439 Speaker 1: contrere mon frere Chris Ballard traded up back into the 340 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 1: third round at pick number ninety six, gives up a 341 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 1: fifth round pick tomorrow because he's very, very intrigued by 342 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 1: safety Nicks out of Maryland. A. What did you make 343 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:04,439 Speaker 1: of the bold move? And then B, what did you 344 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:07,439 Speaker 1: make of the player as they get more reinforcement there 345 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:09,880 Speaker 1: in the secondary. Well, first of all, and you said 346 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:13,119 Speaker 1: this earlier tonight, the fact that we fill three needs 347 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 1: with great athletes allow us from this point on to 348 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 1: draft people. We like, regardless of position. Obviously, you only 349 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 1: move up for someone you really like on your board, 350 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 1: that you feel is on that board higher than anybody else. 351 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 1: So with cross what you're getting is kind of a 352 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:38,200 Speaker 1: consistent theme. Today you're getting a tremendous linear athlete, not 353 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:41,639 Speaker 1: necessarily the best side to side guy, but this is 354 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 1: a four three seven, This is a thirty seven inch vertical, 355 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 1: This is a one hundred and thirty the long jump, 356 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:55,200 Speaker 1: which tells you this is an explosive player. He's also 357 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:59,400 Speaker 1: a very tough He's very compact, like six foot two twelve, 358 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:02,920 Speaker 1: very thick muscle guy that will knock your head off. 359 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 1: So you know, there's always roles for guys like that, 360 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 1: whether it's strong safety in the box, whether it's the 361 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 1: dime backer, whether it's special teams in the beginning. But 362 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:17,120 Speaker 1: this is a young guy that they can bring along. 363 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:21,360 Speaker 1: But he brings a skill set. That's why I've always 364 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 1: really believed in metrics, you know, throughout my whole career, 365 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 1: because I think again, and I've said this to you 366 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 1: many times, if you bring me speed and toughness, I 367 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 1: can coach a lot of the rest of it. I 368 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 1: can't make an I can't make a sissy tough. Okay, 369 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 1: I can't, and I can't make a slow guy fast, 370 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:45,639 Speaker 1: but I can take a fast, tough guy and I 371 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 1: can find spots for him. And going into the draft, 372 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 1: we talked about this. I mean it's sort of a 373 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:53,920 Speaker 1: deceptive area of you know, maybe we need to address 374 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 1: this and continue to supplement it. I mean, what do 375 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 1: you make of the secondary right now? At safety? Obviously 376 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:01,639 Speaker 1: have the two starters, one of those guys continues to 377 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:05,920 Speaker 1: rehab from achilles injury. You add Rodney McLeod in free agency, 378 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 1: Armani Watts, who could play special teams sort of that 379 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:11,880 Speaker 1: George Odom role. And now with Cross the culture looking 380 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:15,159 Speaker 1: pretty good here. Yeah, they really are because in that sense, 381 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:17,719 Speaker 1: I think McCleod is a little bit of a sleeper 382 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 1: in this offseason because he's a very solid player. This 383 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 1: is a guy that's ten years started in the league. 384 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 1: So if Blackman either needs rest Ordy, you know, that's 385 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:32,920 Speaker 1: a fluid situation. You're gonna put a guy in there 386 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:36,400 Speaker 1: that can play very much like Mitchell who's now coaching 387 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:39,120 Speaker 1: on our staff, like he the role he played when 388 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 1: he came in here when he was still playing, and 389 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 1: again now with Wats, you got the special teams replacement. 390 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:49,959 Speaker 1: You get another special teams guy here in Cross and 391 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 1: a guy with some upside. So you know, it's very 392 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 1: hard to remember a day, you know, a second day 393 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:02,399 Speaker 1: that really is anymore domistic than this one. And listen, 394 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:04,679 Speaker 1: these guys, they still have to play, they have to 395 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:07,440 Speaker 1: prove it. We're gonna see just how good they are. 396 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:09,679 Speaker 1: You know, we're not going to know. We're not going 397 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 1: to have a definitive answer and on how these guys 398 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 1: pan out for the next you know, two to three 399 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 1: years at the earliest. Right but as we sit here 400 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 1: and talk right now, tip of the cap, whatever the 401 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 1: ability is for Chris Ballard to understand where the league 402 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:27,640 Speaker 1: was going, how he felt the rest of the league 403 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 1: felt about these guys that he drafted, specifically these guys tonight. 404 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 1: By being able to trade back but still get the 405 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:38,440 Speaker 1: guys that he targeted hitting a home run in the process. 406 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 1: I mean, that's working the phones, that's just having a 407 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 1: gut feeling, that's just being really good at your job. 408 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 1: The general manager of the court, I would say this 409 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:49,680 Speaker 1: is his finest hour, I really would, I think, And 410 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 1: you know what, and once again he has proven to 411 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:56,159 Speaker 1: be the master of the second day. I mean he 412 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 1: has done a really and truly. I mean, of course 413 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 1: a lot of times we haven't had the one, but 414 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:04,120 Speaker 1: he has done a magnificent job on the second day 415 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 1: and the third day. So and that's why I was 416 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 1: fairly confident and wasn't as concerned with not having the one. 417 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:13,640 Speaker 1: Did I think that it would come out? This could 418 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 1: probably not, you know, I figured we'd probably get two 419 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,680 Speaker 1: out of three guys I wanted because you only had 420 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 1: two picks, you know, and you know the way he 421 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:25,959 Speaker 1: did it, the moving from forty two to fifty three 422 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 1: ended up being an act of genius. I mean really, 423 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 1: because then we picked up the third need couldn't got 424 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:37,200 Speaker 1: it couldn't have been better. Yeah, exciting night. No, really, 425 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 1: Colts got that out slow. I thought I was gonna die. 426 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 1: And when we made that, when we made that drop 427 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 1: back again, I was like, is it midnight? Yeah? You know, 428 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 1: what the hell is going on here? But oh my god, 429 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 1: did it turn around and become a great night? Really? 430 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 1: All right? So rounds four through seven tomorrow, the Colts 431 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 1: are scheduled to pick in every round to have that 432 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 1: additional sixth round pick in the Minnesota Vikings there at 433 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:04,199 Speaker 1: one ninety two. I'm not going to ask you you 434 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 1: know who they're targeting, because that's I mean, that's a 435 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 1: tough thing to do right this late in the draft. 436 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:12,919 Speaker 1: But positionally, is it truly now, Not that it wasn't before, 437 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:16,400 Speaker 1: but is it truly now best player available and we'll 438 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 1: kind of fill some spots and supplement the roster. Well, 439 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 1: I think you do have that luxury. I do think, 440 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 1: and you know I haven't checked the very last few 441 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 1: guys here going in. I still think there's going to 442 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 1: be playmaking receivers available. Now you want to start looking. 443 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,639 Speaker 1: You'll never pass up a good corner. I have a 444 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 1: couple what I call Morris Reservoir all Stars corner that 445 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 1: I think you can pick up on the third day, 446 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 1: and then you might want to start looking for those 447 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:49,199 Speaker 1: offensive line depth guys, you know, guys that you know. 448 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:53,359 Speaker 1: Losing Reid and Glowinski. It doesn't scare me in the 449 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 1: starting lineup with Pinner, but it does bother me a 450 00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:00,200 Speaker 1: little bit in the depth aspect of it, because as 451 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 1: you could have played, you could you know, you could 452 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,400 Speaker 1: put Read in there a year ago and put him 453 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 1: as a starter, and you would never you wouldn't miss 454 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 1: the regular, right I mean, and so I think maybe 455 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 1: a little bit of depth right there. You could never 456 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:16,719 Speaker 1: have enough corners, you know, never have enough corners, you know. 457 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,400 Speaker 1: And we go on. But again, I think you make 458 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 1: a good point because we got talent and field three 459 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 1: key needs today. You know we do have some luxury now, yeah, 460 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:29,919 Speaker 1: we do, We really do. We can. If we're in 461 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 1: love with the guy on the fourth round, no matter 462 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 1: what he plays, you could take him. I'm just thinking 463 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,359 Speaker 1: out loud, like like lineback or going into the draft, 464 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:39,400 Speaker 1: that's not a position to need. But but you look 465 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 1: at Bobby o'kaa k e. J. Speed, both guys going 466 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 1: into contract year, Zachlin, you can never have enough debt. 467 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 1: Oh no, no, Now, now you get you get football players, 468 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 1: and particularly guys. One thing I always liked in the 469 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 1: third day. I always liked the coach's involvement on the 470 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 1: third day because the coach is pretty much know what 471 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 1: the position fit is. And I always felt like the 472 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 1: coaches had a better could do a better job in 473 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:09,199 Speaker 1: six and seven because they knew that exactly what we 474 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 1: were looking for, right yeah, on special teams and things 475 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 1: of that, and you know does this guy fit. I 476 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 1: used to have a lot of success on those late rounds. 477 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 1: I studied it a lot, but I also knew the 478 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:23,440 Speaker 1: guys that fit both mentally and physical. And the cults 479 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:27,120 Speaker 1: are gonna get starters tomorrow. They are Zi Zire, Franklin 480 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 1: nine minds in the fourth round, Marlon Mack in the 481 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:31,920 Speaker 1: fourth round, Anthony Walker in the field. I'm gonna tell 482 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 1: you the guy that we forget about that is fastly 483 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 1: becoming Sam Rodgers seems Zia Rodgers. Yeah, and he was 484 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 1: a return guy. You know what. E J. Speed's becoming 485 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:45,919 Speaker 1: an outstaded. Indeed. Absolutely, It's been fun, my man, it 486 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 1: was a good night. Enjoy the rest of the weekend. 487 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 1: Enjoyed the draft, man, Okay, and we'll recap it sometime y. 488 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:53,679 Speaker 1: We will reconvene and kind of put a bow on 489 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 1: everything and include what happens tomorrow for the Colts and 490 00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 1: rounds four through seven. Certainly more impactful players infusing the 491 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 1: roster to round out the weekend. For Rick Venturi, I'm 492 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:08,200 Speaker 1: Matt Taylor. That'll do it for overtime here from Kilroy's 493 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 1: wrapping up the Colts involvement on day two of the 494 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 1: NFL Draft. We'll talk to you tomorrow for another overtime 495 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 1: recap on Day three and recap what the Colts did 496 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:22,440 Speaker 1: in totality in the twenty twenty two NFL Draft. Thanks 497 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,640 Speaker 1: for listening here on Colts dot com, the Colts Audio Network, 498 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:27,400 Speaker 1: and the Colts Mobile app.