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Speaker 2: I forbid my girlfriend to spread her dog's ashes on

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Speaker 2: our vacation.

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Speaker 2: My girlfriend, twenty nine female, and I twenty eight male,

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Speaker 2: have been together for four months. She had a dog

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Speaker 2: that passed away a few months before we met.

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Speaker 1: Start off straw. That's tough, by the way.

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Speaker 2: night at her place. I live with my sister and

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Speaker 2: her two kids, so it's a little chaotic at my place.

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Speaker 2: Girlfriend has a small two to three inch tall urn

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Speaker 2: on her bedside table with their dogs ashes.

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Speaker 1: At some pretty decent signs. Before she turns off.

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Speaker 2: Her lamp to go to sleep, she always gives it

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Speaker 2: a little tap on the top and says good night,

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Speaker 2: as though she is talking to the dog.

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Speaker 1: I think it's weird, but I have never said anything.

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Speaker 1: Oh pee, I know where this is going. I know

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Speaker 1: where we're going.

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Speaker 2: I feel like we're going to a hoole territory. Very quick,

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Speaker 2: we're approaching it. We were supposed to go away for

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Speaker 2: the weekend and on Friday I was watching her pack

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Speaker 2: and notice she took the urn and put it in

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Speaker 2: the top pocket of her backpack. What do you think, John,

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Speaker 2: you're taking those urns with you to go?

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Speaker 1: We're going on a hike. Man going on a hike.

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Speaker 3: I wanted to see the sunset, to go box sue

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Speaker 3: me to go box crazy.

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Speaker 1: I asked what she was doing.

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Speaker 2: She said she didn't want to leave the dog behind.

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Speaker 2: I told her she was not allowed to bring the

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Speaker 2: urn as it made me very uncomfortable.

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Speaker 1: Get over it.

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Speaker 2: I didn't want to see it anytime we returned to

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Speaker 2: our hotel room. I didn't want her talk you're passed

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Speaker 2: away dog after we've had spicy sleep, I even before

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Speaker 2: we go to sleep. Ohoo, it's weird and frankly, she's

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Speaker 2: been mourning this.

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Speaker 1: Dog for too long.

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Speaker 2: Brother, dude, you just got you gotta have some pillow

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Speaker 2: talk and then some urned talk, some.

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Speaker 1: Dog talking night dog, My dog's at.

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Speaker 2: She didn't argue. She simply started to unpack her bag.

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Speaker 2: She told me to have a fun. She told me

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Speaker 2: to have fun on the weekend getaway as she would

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Speaker 2: not be coming.

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Speaker 1: Uh. Oh, I sense a double on Tandra from that sentence.

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Speaker 1: Oh that you do yo?

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Speaker 2: I asked if she was seriously choosing a dog's ashes

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Speaker 2: over me, your four month old boyfriend?

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Speaker 1: Whoa?

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Speaker 2: She said, And this is a bar or, Ladies, take

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Speaker 2: notes if you're ever dumping a dude.

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Speaker 1: Here we go.

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Speaker 2: She was too herself over me, as I could have

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Speaker 2: spoken to her with kindness and empathy but didn't. She

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Speaker 2: also said that I didn't get to dictate how long

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Speaker 2: she's allowed to grieve. Then she asked me to leave.

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Speaker 2: She hasn't replied to my text. I think she's overreacting.

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Speaker 2: My sister said she can see both of our sides.

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Speaker 2: Am I the a hole for thinking my girlfriend is

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Speaker 2: weird for being so attached to her passed away dogs ashes.

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Speaker 2: There isn't edit and there is oh bus updates. Oh wow,

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Speaker 2: Kobe is update. But Johnny Palmy, what do you think

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Speaker 2: of the story so far? Is opda hole?

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Speaker 1: My brother in Christ has missed something completely and that

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Speaker 1: is the point.

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Speaker 3: The point is that your girlfriend is mourning and and

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Speaker 3: and feels for the why try to control her?

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Speaker 1: Like why now? Now? Is it is it fair for

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Speaker 1: him to be like, yeah, you know she like talking

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Speaker 2: I mean morning and talking to a dog seven months

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Speaker 2: after it has passed away is definitely, you know, unusual.

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Speaker 1: So I don't think it's not hurting anyone exactly.

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Speaker 3: I don't think there's anything wrong again with him me

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Speaker 1: But the you cross the line when it's like you're trying.

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Speaker 3: To control her and stuff like oh like don't don't

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Speaker 1: And two? Who cares?

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Speaker 3: She's she's empathy. She's getting some sort of emotional relief

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like if you only wanted to have spicy

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Speaker 1: That's not hurting anyone.

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Speaker 2: It's weird, but I mean like spirement or sexy, like

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Speaker 2: get over it, but we have some edits. The hotel

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Speaker 2: was not refundable and only a three hour drive, so

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Speaker 2: I went on the trip without her and then too,

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Speaker 2: she started seeing psychologists around the same we started dating.

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Speaker 2: She hasn't told me any specifics, but she said the

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Speaker 2: trauma of suddenly losing her dog brought to the surface

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Speaker 2: other trauma in her past. This is why I think

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Speaker 2: she has been mourning for too long. She has still

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Speaker 2: attached to the dog even after seeing a professional on

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Speaker 2: a regular basis for several months. And unsurprisingly, Reddit as

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Speaker 2: even this person had a hole. We had comments in

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Speaker 2: an update, but I think I think we agree with it.

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Speaker 2: Let's get into the update. So we have a down

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Speaker 2: voted commenter saying, you aren't the a hole, and I

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Speaker 2: think it's really effing weird to travel with ashes. Dodged

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Speaker 2: a bullet in my opinion, You could have used nicer words, though,

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Speaker 2: and Opie responds, I don't think I dodged a bullet.

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Speaker 2: She is a wonderful woman. I just didn't want to

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Speaker 2: were supposed to be having fun and relaxing time. And

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Speaker 2: another commenter says, he you're the a hole. You do

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Speaker 2: not get to tell her what she is allowed or

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Speaker 2: not allowed to do, period. Who cares that she carries

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Speaker 2: a little urn with her. I could understand if it's

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Speaker 2: the size of a lamp, but it can fit into

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Speaker 2: the palm of a hand. Saying good night to the

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Speaker 2: ashes is not a big big deal. I would be

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Speaker 2: more concerned if every time she said good night she

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Speaker 2: broke down in a sea of tears.

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Speaker 1: But she doesn't.

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Speaker 2: It's something that brings her comfort. My first dog as

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Speaker 2: an adult I had for fifteen years. I still talk

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Speaker 2: to his ashes sometimes. Okay, maybe it's not as unusual

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Speaker 2: as we thought. Hey, I love that I still have

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Speaker 2: a piece of my boy with me. Opie responding, she

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Speaker 2: only had the dog for a few years. I think

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Speaker 2: it was eight or nine when it passed. That's a

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Speaker 2: away a couple weeks later. And another comport says, you're

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, Opie responds, And the point I was

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Speaker 2: trying to make it was that having the dog for

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Speaker 2: only a few years means she couldn't have been attached

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Speaker 2: as someone who lost their pet of ten plus years

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Speaker 2: and raised them. Since it was a puppy eight nine

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Speaker 2: years John, and did I right?

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Speaker 3: We're talking at one to two year different was it

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Speaker 3: was the dog eight to nine years old.

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Speaker 2: I think she had it for a few years and

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Speaker 2: then it was eight to nine when it passed, So

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Speaker 2: I think she like adopted it maybe when it was

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Speaker 3: Brune needs to update his software because yeah, he's he's

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Speaker 3: just not getting it.

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Speaker 2: You know, like parents that have a child die at

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Speaker 2: like three or four definitely aren't heartbroken.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, dude, Like, yeah, listen, it only had a

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Speaker 3: couple of years. Yeah, get over it.

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Speaker 2: Not to compare our fur babies to our actual babies.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but also clip that gotdom.

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Speaker 2: Gottam comment to three, dang bud, It's obviously you're lacking

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Speaker 2: some emotions and or compassion. Nop response. Is it wrong

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Speaker 2: for me not to want to be reminded of a

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Speaker 2: passway dog while we're on a weekend get away and

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Speaker 2: comma to four. Honestly, your reaction and doubling down is

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Speaker 2: far more weird than taking the ashes. You are a

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Speaker 2: walking red flag. Your behavior shows you have a control issue.

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Speaker 2: You should probably start seeing a therapist yourself, and trust me,

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Speaker 2: you'll be going a lot longer than your now x.

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Speaker 2: I applaud her for choosing herself for happiness and her

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Speaker 2: peace over you. And if her responds, I'm not trying

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Speaker 2: to double down. I get that using the word oh

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Speaker 2: wow was wrong. That was my mistake. But maybe my

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Speaker 2: girlfriend should have told me that's why she was canceling

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Speaker 2: our trip and we could have had a discussion. Instead,

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Speaker 2: she decided to unpack and stay home. That seems like

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Speaker 2: an overreaction. And also I'm waiting for the drop of

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Speaker 2: it being ex girlfriend.

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Speaker 1: Oh, that must be coming.

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Speaker 3: So if that does not come at the end of

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Speaker 3: the story, I do not know what I'm gonna do.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, this is a little little and updates. We

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Speaker 2: have an update the next day. Whoa update. And I'm

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Speaker 2: sure this will make a lot of you happy. I

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Speaker 2: get it.

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Speaker 1: I'm the a.

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Speaker 2: I texted my girlfriend to say I'm sorry for how

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Speaker 1: It was wrong.

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Speaker 2: I also said I would like to apologize in person,

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Speaker 2: and offered to bring over her favorite takeout. She said, quote,

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Speaker 2: all good. Did She's fine with it? She's so oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: she wants to get back together. We're back, We're back,

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Speaker 2: We're back to normal.

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Speaker 1: It's fine.

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Speaker 2: All good, don't worry about an in person apology. I

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Speaker 2: gather the things you've left at my house. Let me

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Speaker 2: know when you would like to come pick them up. Ooh,

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Speaker 2: stone cold, don't work stone cold about an in person

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Speaker 2: Opie works, Opie's girlfriend works quick, dude ICs girlfriend true.

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Speaker 2: I'm hoping she will still hear me out when I

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Speaker 2: go to her place. And edit three. To those of

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Speaker 2: you dming me who think I'm not the a hole

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Speaker 2: but won't post a public comment due to the being downvoted,

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Speaker 2: please stop cowards.

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Speaker 1: That is cowardly to know I was saying.

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Speaker 2: My girlfriend is a lunatic, a sociopath, unhinged, a trauma dumper,

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Speaker 2: has endless emotional baggage, in need of a mental institution, etc.

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Speaker 1: Please stop too.

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Speaker 2: While myself and others may not understand what she is

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Speaker 2: going through, that doesn't automatically make her mentally unstable. She

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Speaker 2: has a good heart and a good head on her shoulders.

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Speaker 2: Name calling is a necessary and borderline ruler than I was.

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Speaker 2: And this John is the final update.

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Speaker 3: WHOA, I don't know what, I don't know where else

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Speaker 3: we have to go from here.

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Speaker 1: The relationship is ended. It's gotta be something little nutty. Well,

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Speaker 1: let's see.

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Speaker 2: So I shared this post with her, thinking it might

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Speaker 2: help her see that I was wrong and I'm owning up. See, Babe, bro,

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Speaker 2: I bet you those last.

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Speaker 1: Couple things were performative.

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Speaker 2: He's like, I can use this internet clout to get

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Speaker 2: I understand that everyone grieves differently, but this is just KOOKI.

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Speaker 3: Much gott Commenters, what are you doing your cowards Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Stand up and say it to my face.

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Speaker 2: It can only hold a few tablespoons at most. The

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Speaker 2: take the urn everywhere with her? Ope response. She doesn't

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Speaker 1: Oh pie response I'm not trying to compete with the dog.

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Speaker 2: I just don't know of anyone else who talks to

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Speaker 2: Your ex girlfriend is awesome, which she kind of it.

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Speaker 2: That is like, yeah, too bad. You simply couldn't grasp

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Speaker 1: And it's like I don't know. It's like so it's

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Speaker 2: That's because you are not a kind and understanding person.

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Speaker 2: I'm glad she left you, and OPI responds, she's been

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Speaker 1: It was alive. How is this any difference?

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Speaker 2: And did OPI have pets in the past, Opie responds, No,

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Speaker 2: We have another updates. Oh two days later. Oh, don't

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Speaker 2: don't tell me. He goes back, like so, OPI doesn't

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Speaker 1: We need we need a physical block. Yeah, yeah, like.

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Speaker 2: Just like maybe like a bunch of two inch cattagger

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Speaker 2: it's weird. Updates for those of you who asked, this

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Speaker 1: Just like it.

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Speaker 2: Just go to the iHeart app, Apple Podcasts, or your

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Speaker 2: certainly not something to break up over. Commenter three, you've

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it comes full circle.

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Speaker 2: You have an unhealthy attachment to your ex girlfriend and

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Speaker 2: I'm not allowed to be attached for four months, but

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Speaker 1: Look at this, this is the point.

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Speaker 4: Uh who wre we go? Huh, well, I think you

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Speaker 4: that's where it ends. That's where it ends.

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Speaker 2: Dye Riley has the picture of the earned relationship.

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Speaker 1: Here we go. Oh, that's the end of that story.

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Speaker 2: But we got some more stories coming up for you

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Speaker 2: right now.

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Speaker 1: Let's go.

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Speaker 3: I just found out my fiance is settling for me

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Speaker 1: Not the moment that you want to know that your

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Speaker 3: One modern method to serve for a partner in an

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Speaker 3: this comes from throway fan on seven two four to

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Speaker 1: That's pretty cool.

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Speaker 3: I twenty five female had a crush on my fiance

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Speaker 3: ever since.

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Speaker 1: We were six years old.

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Speaker 3: I would ask him out through friends ever so often

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Speaker 1: He would always either.

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Speaker 3: Just respond with I know she has a crush on me,

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Speaker 1: I know it wasn't his fault. I was just being crazy.

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Speaker 3: I never really got much attention from guys except a few,

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Speaker 2: Whoa, thirteen is a normal amount, but he was putting

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Speaker 1: Oh god, so one falling into my plan.

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Speaker 3: Well, one thing led to another and we started dating.

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Speaker 3: Over time, we got quite serious. Then just a week

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Speaker 3: in the market. This is all gonna work out perfectly,

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Speaker 3: And nothing in the title will ruin what's about to know?

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Speaker 1: Not at all?

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Speaker 3: Nothing except yesterday while at our engagement party, I was

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Speaker 2: No, I just remember the title. I know, I just

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Speaker 3: So I was in the washroom where I could hear

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Speaker 2: Okay, but at least it's not the fiance saying that.

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Speaker 3: I think what's happening here is I overheard a few

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Speaker 3: Not I thought it was maybe like which still sucks,

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Speaker 3: but could be worse, could be worse. That's that's true.

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Speaker 3: Maybe maybe they're just terrible friends and fiance's.

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Speaker 2: Incredible, exactly exactly. The apple fell very far from the tree,

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Speaker 3: Please, Now, this is making me rethink our entire relationship,

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Speaker 3: as I've always internally felt as if he wasn't really

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Speaker 1: You with thank you, and you got married. You're not

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Speaker 2: You're about to get get married, and he won't hold

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Speaker 1: Dude, I love you and thank you? Wow?

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Speaker 2: Oh why how did you get this far?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean is this the case of this is

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Speaker 3: and so she's like, I finally got it. The rose

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: See, I feel like the not from any fault of

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Speaker 3: Even the proposal. I had told him that I wanted

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Speaker 3: We have an update three days later.

443
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Speaker 2: Well it feels like right now she kind of already

444
00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:19,520
Speaker 2: knows he's not as into her as uh she is

445
00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:24,240
Speaker 2: into him, yes, but maybe she's okay with that. Also,

446
00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:27,879
Speaker 2: Like in terms of the fiance, hasn't said anything directly.

447
00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:31,600
Speaker 1: No actual word from the fiance. Yeah, except thank you.

448
00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:34,280
Speaker 1: Those are the only two words.

449
00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:36,760
Speaker 3: He's not holding our hand, He's not he's not he's

450
00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:39,719
Speaker 3: not talking to us. He's just responding with thank you

451
00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:42,760
Speaker 3: when I mean that that's a little bit of a

452
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Speaker 3: smoking cop.

453
00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:47,719
Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, I love you. Thank you is crazy?

454
00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:51,040
Speaker 2: I it doesn't. It doesn't feel like a balanced relationship.

455
00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:53,040
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's I don't know if this

456
00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:53,440
Speaker 2: is the one.

457
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Speaker 1: Op. Yeah.

458
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Speaker 3: My ICU before this update is that I think of

459
00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:59,280
Speaker 3: Ope will eventually get there, but I think it's gonna

460
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Speaker 3: take her some time. I am or to fully sink

461
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,960
Speaker 3: in about the imbalance, that this might not.

462
00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:07,920
Speaker 1: Be the might be the one.

463
00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:11,879
Speaker 3: Well three days later. Uh So, firstly, I'd like to

464
00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:14,520
Speaker 3: thank you all for your advice. Today after posting this,

465
00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,880
Speaker 3: I met up with Beyonce. On meeting him, I told

466
00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:20,240
Speaker 3: him how I have been feeling and did not mention

467
00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:23,240
Speaker 3: the fact that I overheard his friends. On hearing that,

468
00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:28,320
Speaker 3: he became emotional. He admitted to not being attracted to

469
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Speaker 3: me physically, but liking me as a person. Usually when

470
00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:38,600
Speaker 3: you say, but it's something that will help make the

471
00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:40,439
Speaker 3: situation like, I.

472
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:44,359
Speaker 1: Mean, that's that's something, dude.

473
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Speaker 5: That's that's what you say to like your acquaintances like

474
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:53,800
Speaker 5: a person, like like you have your friends and then

475
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Speaker 5: people you like his people also, can.

476
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Speaker 3: We point out he's the one that propaul oozed why

477
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:01,879
Speaker 3: are you well?

478
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:05,400
Speaker 2: But maybe maybe he doesn't care about being attracted to her.

479
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:08,960
Speaker 1: Is this is this a life partnership?

480
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:11,840
Speaker 2: Well, maybe it's yeah, Maybe it's yeah. Maybe it's a

481
00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:14,240
Speaker 2: life partnership thing. And he's like, dude, like we're gonna

482
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,520
Speaker 2: be so old and so gray, I'm not gonna be

483
00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:20,280
Speaker 2: able to get it up. But you know, like I'm

484
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:22,640
Speaker 2: just focusing on you as a person, not like trying

485
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,560
Speaker 2: to jump your bones all the time. Wow, maybe he's

486
00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:26,080
Speaker 2: thinking like that.

487
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:31,520
Speaker 3: So uh it honestly did hurt, as in my head

488
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,240
Speaker 3: I was expecting him to say something along the lines

489
00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:37,960
Speaker 3: of him loving me no matter what the other's thoughts,

490
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:43,480
Speaker 3: he still wants to marry me and I still love him.

491
00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 3: He has promised to try harder and be more present

492
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 3: in the relationship. He really has been trying these past

493
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,520
Speaker 3: few days. He texts me every single day and also

494
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:56,080
Speaker 3: reciprocates my I love yous.

495
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Speaker 1: Keyword trying. I just don't. I just don't think that.

496
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,399
Speaker 2: You like. Asking him to say I love you and

497
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:11,639
Speaker 2: respond to your texts is a signal that this is

498
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 2: going to be a great relationship moving forward. He might

499
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Speaker 2: be able to keep this up for a little bit,

500
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 2: but like, you're only going to really be able to

501
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 2: keep this up for a lifetime if you you're like,

502
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,360
Speaker 2: if you're into it, you know, if you're into it.

503
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:28,840
Speaker 3: I told my mother and grandmother about everything that has

504
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 3: been happening, to which their response was more on the

505
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:35,120
Speaker 3: lines of I should be grateful that someone like him

506
00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:38,399
Speaker 3: is going for someone like me, and once we get married,

507
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:43,800
Speaker 3: he will change over time, Mom and.

508
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 2: Grandma, who's side somewhere like him is marrying someone like me.

509
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 1: Street rat riff rev, I don't buy that.

510
00:25:55,840 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 2: Whatever the Aladdin thing, oh yeah, it's just the my heart,

511
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,639
Speaker 2: the ugly streeter erinchin marrying the prince.

512
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 1: I feel like that's the setup that they're buying about

513
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,680
Speaker 1: to hop on a flying carpet. Yeah, talk to a

514
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:11,399
Speaker 1: freaking bird.

515
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:14,920
Speaker 3: So now this has put me in a tougher position,

516
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 3: But honestly speaking, I think I will just go ahead

517
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 3: with the wedding as the other option is arranged marriage

518
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 3: and I'm not really keen on that, and he's really

519
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:27,399
Speaker 3: started putting in the effort. I do believe that he

520
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:33,679
Speaker 3: will actually fall for me gradually. Overall, the commenters felt

521
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 3: and we have another update three weeks later.

522
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:42,399
Speaker 1: Oh man, after the wedding. There's no way they're still together.

523
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 1: There's no way. There's no way the wedding could have

524
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 1: already happened at this point. Could they could be married?

525
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:51,680
Speaker 1: They could be married. I'm guessing they take a step back.

526
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 3: Well, if he says I've attached on my earlier posts, hello,

527
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,680
Speaker 3: a lot has happened. It's my last update. I've been

528
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 3: in two minds ever since that day. After posting that update,

529
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 3: and I received a flood of negative responses, and I

530
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,680
Speaker 3: had a moment of realization that I had been avoiding.

531
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 1: Yes, realization, here we go. Good in there.

532
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,920
Speaker 3: So I decided to have another conversation with him, one

533
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:20,360
Speaker 3: final talk where I laid out everything bare. I told

534
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 3: him exactly how I felt, and I admitted the truth

535
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 3: that I had known deep down but had been too

536
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 3: afraid to voice, that he didn't really love me.

537
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 1: He neither confirmed nor denied, just state silent. After that,

538
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:36,199
Speaker 1: I ended it.

539
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 3: I called off the engagement and handed the ring back

540
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,680
Speaker 3: to him. He didn't fight me on it, didn't argue,

541
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 3: didn't try to change my mind. He just sat there

542
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 3: silent and only said, look.

543
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 1: That was it.

544
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 3: No grand declarations, no desperate attempts to stop me, just okay,

545
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,879
Speaker 3: And that, more than anything, solidified my decision. If he

546
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 3: had truly loved me, wouldn't he have said something, wouldn't

547
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,959
Speaker 3: he have at least tried. But two days after that conversation,

548
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 3: he showed up at my place and started begging me

549
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,200
Speaker 3: to take him back. He began showing up at my

550
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:12,200
Speaker 3: place every other day with flowers and sending gifts. It's

551
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,159
Speaker 3: been two weeks of this now, and I don't know

552
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 3: what to make of it. I wish I could say

553
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 3: I was immune to it, that I was standing strong,

554
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:22,680
Speaker 3: But the truth is still love him, and after seeing

555
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 3: him actually trying something I had wanted for so long

556
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:30,159
Speaker 3: as me melting, I haven't yet taken him back, but

557
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 3: I am so very close to doing so.

558
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 2: I don't think it's a good idea teetering off the

559
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 2: edge here.

560
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 1: The other day he.

561
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 3: Even showed up at my parents' place, asking them to

562
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 3: convince me. They already were not in favor of my

563
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 3: decision to break off the engagement. Him trying just fueled

564
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 3: them even more. There's constant pressure of taking him back

565
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 3: through them. They see my decision to leave him as

566
00:28:56,000 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 3: something illogical. By the way, if you want to make

567
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 3: the most logical decision of your life, then enjoy two

568
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 3: thousand episodes of stories just like this, full freaking episodes.

569
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 3: Just go to Spotify, Apple Podcast, your favorite pot app search. Okay, storytime, Boom,

570
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 3: They're all right through it. Do it right now?

571
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 1: Do it?

572
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 2: Hey and Sam, we're gonna get back to these stories.

573
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 2: But here's three minutes of ads from our sponsors.

574
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 3: But Sam, we do we do actually have a sizable

575
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:29,719
Speaker 3: chunk level in the story? Yeah, do we think that

576
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 3: she's going to take him back?

577
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 1: We're teetering right on the edge.

578
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 2: I want to believe that op is going to make

579
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 2: the right decision for her future happiness, which would be

580
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 2: to not be with this person. That Yeah, it seems

581
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 2: he's doing it. He's doing an emotional sprint right now. Right,

582
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 2: He's like, he's like, yeah, let me show her how

583
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 2: good I am he's doing. He's love bombing. He's love bombing,

584
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 2: and and that bomb will not last long. This is

585
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 2: not a slow stoked fire that will will last the whole.

586
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 2: This is an instant and then it's cold. It's cold

587
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 2: in that relationship after.

588
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 1: That, Usain bolt, He's got to take a rest sometime. Yep.

589
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 1: He can't run forever. No, it can't. Well.

590
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:14,959
Speaker 3: Ope, he goes on to say, I honestly don't know

591
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 3: what to believe, and I'm just scared that once I

592
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 3: take him back, they'll go back.

593
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 1: To his old ways. Yep. Mark.

594
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 3: Plus, my mother has joined some matrimonial WhatsApp groups and

595
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 3: keeps sending me pictures of guys, urging me to meet

596
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 3: up with them.

597
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 1: I think she just.

598
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 3: Wants me married off to whom doesn't matter as I'm

599
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 3: the only child. Both of them don't have anyone else

600
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 3: to focus on. I do not know what to do anymore,

601
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 3: not that I was ever clear about it in the

602
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 3: first place. There's just constant pressure through my parents and

603
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,719
Speaker 3: relatives to get married, and it has really started to

604
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 3: affect me. And there's a relevant comment who East Time

605
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 3: one fifty says, don't go back. Finally, first story I've

606
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 3: read on Reddit where someone took self respect more importantly,

607
00:30:57,560 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 3: don't reverse it.

608
00:30:58,280 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 1: Please.

609
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 3: It's not like he starts finding you attractive in two days. Bro,

610
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 3: Come on, don't take him back. Lexibat says it, girl,

611
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 3: you did good, and the reality is that once you

612
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 3: take him back, he's gonna go back to his old ways.

613
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I think too.

614
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 3: He's just in the immediate shock of the breakup and

615
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 3: nothing more. Once it passes, he's going to feel relieved.

616
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 3: Believe me, if you take him back, his old doubts

617
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 3: are going to creep up, and he'll spend the rest

618
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 3: of your life trying to convince him that you're good

619
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 3: enough for him. You'll spend the rest of your life

620
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 3: doubting yourself and your worth. He is going to erode

621
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 3: your confidence and self steam away. Oh stay strong and

622
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 3: let this pass. Give it time and stand your ground.

623
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 3: God Zillages says, let's put some respect to say it twice. Golly,

624
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 3: kudos to you for having self respect and making a

625
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 3: decision to end what you thought was settling for quote.

626
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 3: On the other hand, I wonder why he settled for

627
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 3: you if he had so much female attention. Maybe he

628
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 3: sees something in you that he just hasn't found somewhere else.

629
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 3: Physical attraction is necessary, but at the same time, I'm

630
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 3: slightly overrated. The shine of a beautiful woman or a

631
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 3: handsome man wears off quickly when you get down to

632
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 3: business of living your daily lives together, raising kids, supporting families,

633
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 3: et cetera. Suggest talking to him to figure out why

634
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 3: he wants you. You're not bound by anything, and you've

635
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 3: already broken the engagement. It costs you nothing to figure

636
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 3: out whether it's worth salvaging.

637
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 1: Good luck. We'll just quickly say, well, I am curious.

638
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 1: I'm curious.

639
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 3: I don't know if the curiosity is worth it, especially

640
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 3: given how teetering on the edge op is.

641
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 2: I think the curiosity is worth it because then we

642
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 2: would get another update of this story, which I'm very

643
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 2: curious on. But for your own health, happiness, well being,

644
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 2: probably not worth it. Yes, yes, and that is Unfortunately

645
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 2: my mom's fiance is a nightmare. I don't think I

646
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 2: can go through with the wedding wake up.

647
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 1: Wow.

648
00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 2: This story takes place over two years ago at a

649
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 2: funny idea to name this post of problems with mommy dearest,

650
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 2: but changed my mind because it wasn't only about his mother.

651
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 2: It was very much about him, and mainly him. By

652
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Speaker 2: the way, this comes from Fun Size WEIRDO twenty seven

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Speaker 2: and if you want to submit your own stories, go

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Speaker 2: to our slash Okay story time. So I wrote it,

655
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 2: So I twenty four female at the time, was twenty two.

656
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 2: Got engaged to a guy I was friends with for

657
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 2: four years after dating him for four months. Let's call

658
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 2: him Hester. He was twenty three male at the time.

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Speaker 1: What a name.

660
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 2: I was actually really close to him. Like I said,

661
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 2: we were friends for four years. After being friends for

662
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 2: so long, I ended up single and he decided to

663
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 2: shoot his shot. I was excited because no one had

664
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 2: really pursued me before. I pursued my exes first, and

665
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 2: he was so sweet and funny, and I love spending

666
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 2: time with him. He seems so genuine. Then I started

667
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 2: dating him. Here we go, Here we go, And for

668
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 2: all of the four months it was great.

669
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 1: Mostly.

670
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 2: Oh he even bought my dog Valentine's treats on Valentine's

671
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 2: Day because he wanted to bring something for both his girls.

672
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 2: Once he proposed, our relationship took a sharp turn in

673
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 2: the worst ways and ultimately ended for starters. He was

674
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 2: an only child who came from a broken home. He

675
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 2: was a miracle baby, but his parents split when he

676
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 2: was young due to his dad abusing substances and booze. However,

677
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 2: his mom was still in love with the dad, but

678
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 2: left him to protect her son. Both parents remarried. Wow,

679
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:39,240
Speaker 2: that's a crazy love triangle. Le squear SOEs his parents

680
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 2: and some relatives, mainly his mom, will be important to

681
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 2: the story. Let's come up with the names Olifer to

682
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 2: his mom as Karen Stocker, his dad is Mike, his

683
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 2: stepmom as Kristen, and his grandmom as Gail. For my family,

684
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 2: let's call my mom Lynn, my dad Alan, and sister

685
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 2: in law Kaylee. Now we are ready to get into

686
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 2: the story. Let's start at him propose. It was Mother's Day,

687
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 2: not kidding, and we decided that we wanted his parents

688
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,360
Speaker 2: and grandmom to meet my family, and they had the

689
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,359
Speaker 2: idea to do it on Mother's Day so we could

690
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 2: also celebrate all the moms in our life. We planned

691
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 2: to do it at my brother and sister in law's

692
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 2: house because they had the most space and offered. I

693
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:22,320
Speaker 2: also hadn't met his grandmother yet, only his parents and stepparents.

694
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:24,880
Speaker 2: We babysat and had my nephew spend the night with

695
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 2: us the night before and found out later because they

696
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 2: needed to set up the proposal without him destroying it.

697
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 2: So it was like a little hoodwink obbrowser. We showed

698
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 2: up the day of, and every car was there already,

699
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,319
Speaker 2: and I panicked about being late, which I hate and

700
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 2: do not do. I was carrying my nephew in and

701
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:45,720
Speaker 2: my mom quickly snatched him out of my arms before

702
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 2: walking through the door. I was confused until I looked

703
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:51,880
Speaker 2: straight ahead. The doors were wide open, with a pathway

704
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:54,799
Speaker 2: of lanterns leading up to an arch, where I saw

705
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 2: Hester standing and looking at me. I was in shock,

706
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 2: but gathered the curve to slowly walk to him. When

707
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 2: I was walking, I saw people, our families, sitting off

708
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 2: to the side watching as I made it up to him.

709
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 2: When I got there, he was shaking, a bit choked up,

710
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,840
Speaker 2: and he literally couldn't get any words out except I

711
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:17,720
Speaker 2: love you. Then dropped to his knee and said, will

712
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 2: you be my wife? That's cute. It's cute, But that's cute.

713
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 2: It's just this we're foreshadowing.

714
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 1: It's cute. What do you mean?

715
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,760
Speaker 2: Just live in the cuteness, John, don't think about the title.

716
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:32,319
Speaker 2: Just live in this moment. Be present with me.

717
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 1: John, This is so cute. This is cute and nothing else.

718
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:40,799
Speaker 2: Ah, I said, guess and realized the song See the

719
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 2: Light from Tangled, my favorite and instrumental was playing in

720
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:45,360
Speaker 2: the background.

721
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 1: It was perfect.

722
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 2: I turned to see his mom, grandmom, dad and stepmom,

723
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 2: as well as my parents, sister and a law niece

724
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 2: and nephew, best friend, her daughter, my goddaughter, and her mom.

725
00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 2: I was so excited and blindsided. After where we sat

726
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:04,400
Speaker 2: and got a small gift for my parents, many congratulations

727
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 2: and they even gathered us and everyone else in a

728
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 2: circle for a toast. Karen, Mike, and Kristen spoke and

729
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 2: I believe my dad did too. After that was over,

730
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:16,400
Speaker 2: Gail made a comment saying, Hester, I used to see

731
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 2: you all the time until you started dating her oh,

732
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:25,760
Speaker 2: and looked at me. I quickly said, get him, because

733
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 2: I've been telling him I wanted to come meet you

734
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 2: and he needed to reach out to you to set

735
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 2: that up. That shut that down, thankfully, wow op thinking

736
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 2: on the feet yep. Then I insisted on celebrating the

737
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,799
Speaker 2: engagement later because that day was about the moms. I

738
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 2: already had a plan and gifts for each mother there

739
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 2: that were extra spectral, and I already felt a little awkward, excited,

740
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:47,759
Speaker 2: but so awkward that he decided to do it on

741
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 2: a day that was not supposed to be about us.

742
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 2: We hung out with the mom sharing stories and such,

743
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 2: and something shocking was said from Gail and Karen. They

744
00:37:56,640 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 2: were very weirdly expressing how Hester's hands were so soft

745
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,880
Speaker 2: and they needed to stay that way. That's why he

746
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 2: wasn't allowed to cut grass at home, because the baby

747
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 2: has such soft hands and needs to keep them that way.

748
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 2: He can't be doing any hard labor like that weird

749
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 2: he's talking about. That's gross. I don't like how that sounds.

750
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 2: My sister in law, mom and I were shocked and

751
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 2: almost giggled because we thought she was kidding until Gail's

752
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 2: face changed showed she was one hundred percent serious.

753
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 1: We couldn't believe it.

754
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 2: I had major medical problems and was practically disabled at

755
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 2: the time, so I know they could not have expected

756
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 2: me to be cutting grassy, no, ma'am. Anyways, we moved

757
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 2: away from the conversation just continue to spend time celebrating

758
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 2: the mothers. After the party was over, I went back

759
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:54,240
Speaker 2: with Hester to spend time with his mom some more alone.

760
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 2: We got back to her house and she was showing

761
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,359
Speaker 2: me old pictures of Hester as a baby as much

762
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 2: as she was saying how cute he was and how

763
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:05,319
Speaker 2: great he was slash is. She was also saying how

764
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 2: young and in love she and Mike were and how

765
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 2: she missed him. She remarried to someone else, but still

766
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 2: was fawning over her ex husband. She was still completely

767
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 2: in love with him. It was a bit sad. The

768
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:23,360
Speaker 2: dad was happily remarried to Kristen and was now sober.

769
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 2: It really looked like she was regretting divorcing him. Skipped

770
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 2: to Later that night, Hester and I were alone again

771
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 2: and I asked him about the ring. The main diamond

772
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 2: was from his mother's engagement ring from his dad, who

773
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 2: they divorced. I felt that was bad luck, juji whatever.

774
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 2: So I got us and my mom to pray over

775
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 2: the ring and us that we wouldn't turn out the same.

776
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:48,800
Speaker 2: Never never go through the recycling machine of old rings

777
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:49,840
Speaker 2: and old wedding stuff.

778
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 1: It's not good. It's bad vibes. Yeah. Then I found

779
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:57,399
Speaker 1: out he didn't pay a single penny towards the ring.

780
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 2: His mom paid for the entire I told him if

781
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 2: he couldn't afford the ring, that was one thing. I'm

782
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 2: not a materialistic person, but mom had many family rings

783
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 2: that he could have used, and I preferred that and

784
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 2: if he really wanted to get slash a buy a ring,

785
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 2: don't get a real diamond, get a moistenite. It's cheaper

786
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 2: and better clarity. That's what I would have wanted. But

787
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 2: he ignored every part of that and did what he

788
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,799
Speaker 2: and his mom wanted. She swayed him into using the

789
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:25,879
Speaker 2: diamond and letting her.

790
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 1: Pay for it. She was controlling it and him soft

791
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:34,799
Speaker 1: little hands. I think I see an icu. Oh, I

792
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 1: think an ice you.

793
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 2: I mean, I think we're getting classic dynamic of the

794
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:43,239
Speaker 2: mother in law is terrible and super controlling and the

795
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:46,760
Speaker 2: boyfriend has no spine, and so he's just being puppeted,

796
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:51,360
Speaker 2: doing whatever his mom, whatever mommy asks, and it completely

797
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:53,760
Speaker 2: ruins the relationship because it's like, to his mom.

798
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:55,800
Speaker 1: What changed when they got engaged.

799
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:58,799
Speaker 3: Now, when you're engaged, that's that's when mama gets in

800
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 3: the mix. Oh, this is official. Now let me go crazy.

801
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 3: Let's let's let's turn this Karen up to an eleven.

802
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:08,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, I think I think we're gonna get some

803
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 2: Karen puppeteering coming in. So that was only the beginning.

804
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 2: Two months after we got engaged, we were hanging out

805
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:20,240
Speaker 2: talking like normal and then he said something that stopped

806
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 2: me in my tracks. He said, I regret proposing. Well,

807
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:28,479
Speaker 2: tell me how you really feel. I was so thrown

808
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:30,359
Speaker 2: off because I thought he loved me and were doing good,

809
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 2: but apparently not. I asked why, to please explain, and

810
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 2: he said he felt rush and trapped like I, like

811
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 2: he had to, like he didn't have a choice. I

812
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:42,319
Speaker 2: was so confused because even when we had talked about

813
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 2: getting married, he was just as excited as I was,

814
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:46,880
Speaker 2: saying how it wouldn't be long before making it official,

815
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 2: so it was definitely his choice. I started thinking about

816
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 2: his mom her mentioning how she wasn't ready for him

817
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:56,400
Speaker 2: to leave the nest and how she thought neither of

818
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,760
Speaker 2: them were ready. He also started getting really weird, telling

819
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 2: me tofferent things about him, like how he likes his

820
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:05,400
Speaker 2: chicken cooked, what he will and won't eat, when he

821
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:07,799
Speaker 2: likes to have is alone time, what detergent to use

822
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 2: for his laundry.

823
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:11,239
Speaker 1: How to separate it, how to fold it, and so

824
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 1: much more.

825
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 3: John, what do we say, ladies and gentlemen, if a

826
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 3: man's mama is folding his laundry.

827
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:22,360
Speaker 1: Run, send him back and run send him packing.

828
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 3: Dude, This has been This has been coming up again

829
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 3: and again and again.

830
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 2: Dude, the gold rules really so good. So just trying

831
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 2: to help so you don't have problems. But I'm not

832
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:38,319
Speaker 2: adopting him and becoming his new mommy. I'm going to

833
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 2: be his wife, not his servants. Yes, we'd be a team.

834
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 2: That was until I saw him smiling. I wait until

835
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 2: we were alone again to explain, I'm not your mom,

836
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 2: nor will I ever be your mom. I am not

837
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:50,360
Speaker 2: marrying you to become a servant.

838
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 1: Now.

839
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 2: Of course I will do things for you and take

840
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 2: care of you, but not in a motherly way doing

841
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 2: everything for you. We are a team. That's what we

842
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:02,880
Speaker 2: agreed to previous. He acted as though he understood, but

843
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:06,880
Speaker 2: looked sad. I was baffled by how entitled and childish

844
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:09,360
Speaker 2: he was acting. I had no idea what I was

845
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 2: getting myself into. We started looking at wedding venues and

846
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 2: agreed on one that we absolutely loved. We went back

847
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:17,319
Speaker 2: and brought his mom and she said, it's a bit far,

848
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 2: don't you think suddenly he didn't love the venue anymore?

849
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 2: If we wanted to use another venue we toured when

850
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 2: she came with us, and to see that she loved it.

851
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 2: It was more expensive for so much less, not even

852
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:34,360
Speaker 2: a rehearsal dinner. The other venue was the exact same price,

853
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:37,839
Speaker 2: but offered a lot more. Weddings are expensive, so that

854
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 2: was such a help. Plus the owners were so kind

855
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 2: and willing to help even more. The venue his mom

856
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 2: wanted had basically nothing for the same price, and it

857
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:48,320
Speaker 2: was just not worth it to be closer. I finally

858
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 2: talked to her, explaining all of that and even showing

859
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 2: distances on the map, and she said, oh, I guess

860
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 2: it actually isn't that far. It just felt like such

861
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 2: a long drive in the car. I explained how my

862
00:43:57,640 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 2: dad took back roads so we could see the other

863
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 2: local thing as well. So she understood and agreed that

864
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 2: the better venue was the one we had originally picked.

865
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:07,839
Speaker 2: That was a big riga. We're all just to get

866
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 2: back to where we started. Hume, well, guess what he

867
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 2: was back on board. All of a sudden, A month

868
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 2: goes by with some tension, and he says it again.

869
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:20,439
Speaker 2: I regret proposing.

870
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:24,760
Speaker 3: My man is repeating, repeating the same mistakes.

871
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,400
Speaker 2: Why is he trying to hurt me? Who says that

872
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:29,359
Speaker 2: I couldn't understand why he was saying this, but then

873
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 2: I think it clicked. She was telling him he wasn't

874
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 2: ready and maybe even guilty him into living with her

875
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Speaker 2: next to her, or having her live with us.

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Speaker 1: I'm not one.

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Speaker 2: Hundred percent sure what she said to him to this day,

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Speaker 2: but I know she did something. When I asked him

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00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 2: straight up, did Karen say something, he put.

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Speaker 1: His head down and went silent.

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Speaker 2: A little boy is Slowly I started realizing just what

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Speaker 2: I feared. He would not do anything other than what

883
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Speaker 2: his mom said or say she was mommy dessert. Oh God,

884
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Speaker 2: and that was not going to change. I suggested going

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Speaker 2: to a couple's therapy and individual therapy so that he could

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Speaker 2: break free and become an adult, his own person, without

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Speaker 2: her ruling everything he said and did. He didn't exactly

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00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:16,319
Speaker 2: like the idea and asked for a bit to think

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Speaker 2: about it. Side note, an extra thing happened. A few

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Speaker 2: weeks into our engagement. We agreed we didn't believe in divorce.

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Speaker 2: We also agreed that signing a prenup was basically a

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Speaker 2: preparation for divorce, a just in case no. So if

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Speaker 2: we agreed we didn't believe in divorce, we had no

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Speaker 2: need for one, Ugh, we gonna ask for two month

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Speaker 2: three and a half of our engagement, and he asked

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Speaker 2: me to sign a pre nuptial agreement, which I think

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Speaker 2: is an okay thing to do, especially with as much

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Speaker 2: up and down as.

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Speaker 1: You guys have.

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Speaker 2: I lost it. I was hurt, confused, and done. More

901
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 2: gas lighting and toxic behavior from him and his mom

902
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:55,439
Speaker 2: had me at a breaking point. Nothing was going to change,

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Speaker 2: so I broke down and ended it.

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Speaker 3: Hey, John, ogi host here, we're gonna get back to

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Speaker 3: this episode. But a quick three minute break of ads

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Speaker 3: from a sponsor's keeping the show alive really quick. There's

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Speaker 3: nothing wrong with a prenup, but a prenup combined with

908
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:13,879
Speaker 3: everything else is what is wrong.

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Speaker 1: Sam is pro prenup, ladies, I'm pro prenup dude. Yeah,

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00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:21,320
Speaker 1: it ain't no chump. Yeah, it's the quote one of

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00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:25,399
Speaker 1: your heroes. My here, I'm just getting turned back around

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00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 1: on me. Wait, wait, what what's going on? You could

913
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Speaker 1: easily quote one of his heroes, you know.

914
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Speaker 3: That of his quotes, don't dang it? I like electrical vehicles.

915
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:45,799
Speaker 3: Boom got him.

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Speaker 1: So I broke down and ended it.

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Speaker 2: I explained that I couldn't marry his mother, because marrying

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Speaker 2: him is marrying his mom. I couldn't be baited or

919
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:01,320
Speaker 2: negotiating to doing something that we against my beliefs. I

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00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:03,920
Speaker 2: wasn't going to tolerate the verbal and mental abuse anymore.

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Speaker 2: He did many other things I'd rather not say, but

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Speaker 2: I knew all I needed to understand what marriage with

923
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:13,720
Speaker 2: him would have been. And after saying twice I regret proposing,

924
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 2: when I broke up with him, he tried to love

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00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:17,880
Speaker 2: bomb me and hold me hostage in the moment so

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Speaker 2: that I couldn't break up with him. He said he

927
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Speaker 2: was basically showing up at my house and work because

928
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Speaker 2: he was not going to take no for an answer.

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Speaker 2: He was not losing me, And by the way, you

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Speaker 2: should never lose us by listening to our full episodes

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00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 2: another relevant update. But John, do you think Op is

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Speaker 2: making the right move and breaking up with his mom?

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Speaker 2: I mean, not his mom, him, absolutely without a doubt.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's just so insane. He says he regrets

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Speaker 1: posing to you twice. Well, where's the regret now? Congratulations?

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Speaker 1: I gave you what you want. You can now Yeah,

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Speaker 1: get rid of the regrets. Now you're coming back. Now

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Speaker 1: you're doing this. He's a spineless waffle, that man is.

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Speaker 1: He's waffling from this.

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Speaker 2: It's floppy, yes, noodle spine no, fine, but let's get

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00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 2: into this final update. So he started out so sweet,

944
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 2: but boy was he the opposite. Love bombing, gas lining,

945
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 2: manipulation of you, stalking gets all real. Unfortunately it's common now.

946
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Speaker 2: But you do not have to tolerate that. You are

947
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 2: important and deserve to be treated as such. So am

948
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Speaker 2: I the a hole for not only canceling my wedding

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Speaker 2: but breaking up with my fiance John?

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Speaker 1: What do you think? Not at all? Not at all,

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Speaker 1: But that is where that story in

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Speaker 2: This episode and wow, So if you love us, make

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Speaker 2: sure to subscribe We Love You and see it tomorrow