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Speaker 1: Hello, my name is Jason tepsio An, I'm Rosey Night,

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Speaker 1: and welcome back to X ray Vision, the podcast where

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Speaker 1: we dive deepoop peeptoop.

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Speaker 2: It's your favorite shows, movies, comics and pop culture.

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Speaker 1: We're coming to you from iHeart Podcast, Ken from San

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Speaker 1: Diego Comic Con, and of course we're bringing you three

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Speaker 1: episodes a week every Tuesday Thursday, plus the summer's biggest

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Speaker 1: movies on Friday, News news on Saturday.

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Speaker 2: And it is time for news.

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Speaker 3: It's time for some news.

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Speaker 4: But this time we're doing news from a very special place, guys.

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Speaker 4: We are doing it from the Alien Earth installation at SDCC.

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Speaker 4: We are officially surrounded by xenomorphs and posters for the

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Speaker 4: official podcast, as well as some very very cool scary imagery.

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Speaker 3: The people outside are queuing.

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Speaker 4: There is at least the hundred people out there trying

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Speaker 4: to get into the Alien activation.

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Speaker 3: But that's okay. That's that business. All business is news.

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Speaker 4: Yes, So today we're coming out with all the biggest

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Speaker 4: news from comics and movies and TV in SDCC.

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Speaker 1: Folks, what's been your favorite thing that you've experienced thus

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Speaker 1: far at Comic hall Ian we haven't introduced yet Super

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Speaker 1: producer Ian first time on the mic, what's your what's

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Speaker 1: been your favorite moment from Comic CON's First of.

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Speaker 5: All, happy to be on the show, Happy to be

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Speaker 5: on Mike.

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Speaker 3: We've been waiting.

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Speaker 5: It's an exciting, big moment special.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I would say, you know, this is only the

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Speaker 6: second time I've been to Comic Con. The last time

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Speaker 6: But I would say just seeing the community and the

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Speaker 6: costumes and just how free everybody is, you know, expressing themselves,

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Speaker 6: and the passion for what everybody loves. And then I

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Speaker 6: would also say a lot of the panels that I've

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Speaker 6: been to have been really inspiring, just hearing from creatives

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Speaker 6: and people in the industry and their their past and

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Speaker 6: what led them here. So I think that's that's been

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Speaker 6: some of my favorite moments so far.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you and I went to this panel called the

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Speaker 7: Pitching Hour the other day that was phenomenal, like some

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Speaker 7: of the greatest, like people of color women in the

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Speaker 7: industry talking about how to pitch a show, which sounds

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Speaker 7: like maybe not as exciting as you know, an Alien

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Speaker 7: Earth reveal, but it was really really fun. And then

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Speaker 7: the costumes this year, even talking a lot about like

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Speaker 7: who are we seeing the most? I have some contenders, okay,

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Speaker 7: and some interesting.

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Speaker 3: Like leave out some snobs.

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Speaker 7: I have not seen a single Batman, not one anybody

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Speaker 4: I've seen Batman who was like, had the Keaton style cloak,

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Speaker 4: but that was I'm still you usually see at least Batman's.

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Speaker 5: I've seen a lot of jokers, handful of jokers.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's night Wings, there's Batman variants.

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Speaker 3: There definitely bat family I've seen.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay, So who's the most played character

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Speaker 7: I don't want to say most played, but the most No,

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Speaker 7: the character I've seen the most because I you know,

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Speaker 8: I've seen four Loraxes, my.

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Speaker 7: Gosh, four separate Loxes, which is not anywhere near my Like.

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Speaker 4: I feel like that that meme of the girl who

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Speaker 4: and was dressed as the Lorex and was bold and orange.

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Speaker 4: I feel like it's inspiring people because it's a similar aesthetic.

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Speaker 4: I feel like, okay, other than the Lorax, who's an

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Speaker 7: I don't know all the character for my hero Academia,

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Speaker 7: but whatever one is in the green and white like

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Speaker 7: oh yeah, yeah that everywhere children adults, t shirts, like

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Speaker 1: It's huge thee Yeah yeah, yes, I would say as well.

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Speaker 4: I've seen a lot of kids wearing Demon Slayer jackets,

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Speaker 4: So that's been really fun. I mean, the costumes this year,

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Speaker 3: So I'm very excited to see more of your photos

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Speaker 3: of the cosplay. Jason. I'm glad you.

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Speaker 4: I'm glad that you posted some of those because you

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Speaker 1: It's been the most fun for me. It's just the

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Speaker 4: Okay, it was actually a joke yesterday me and Jason

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Speaker 3: We're trying to see like, oh, who is that is it? Raven?

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Speaker 3: Is it you? Know Me Seek.

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Speaker 4: But then within the next five minutes walking through the

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Speaker 3: It has definitely been a highlight.

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Speaker 8: Ean.

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Speaker 6: What about you, I've seen a lot of Fantastic four,

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Speaker 6: which makes sense, correct, that's a ton of Fantastic.

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Speaker 1: Fantastic four costumes from but I've seen a lot of Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I was also you know those kind of suits that

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Speaker 3: Did you see it in real life?

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Speaker 7: So I saw her in real life and it was

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Speaker 2: She's like kin, she's like inside this kind of stilt

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Speaker 7: And she's huge, head and shoulders over everybody, and she's

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Speaker 8: The fans outside are very excited for us.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Well, I have to say I saw over by the

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Speaker 4: But they let her take a picture next to it,

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Speaker 4: I was I got my wobbly knees and the thing

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna go. You guys have touched on all of

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Speaker 4: my favorite things about the con. I'm gonna say I'm

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Speaker 4: artist Ali. I saw my friend Arielle and she is

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Speaker 4: an incredible illustration and she had a T shirt that

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Speaker 4: And now if me and other people wearing it see

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Speaker 3: We're like, hey, hey, hey, but the.

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Speaker 4: Thing I'm really enjoying and Ian This will sound crazy

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Speaker 3: I don't know what it is.

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Speaker 4: I know people are going to the panels. That's a

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Speaker 4: big thing. I'm hearing cues for Godzilla panel. By the

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Speaker 4: There is a passion that is moving I think from

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Speaker 4: Ever since a couple of years ago when Marvel didn't come,

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Speaker 4: seeing that, as well as being able to like walk

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Speaker 1: I think there's more stuff outside of the yeah traditional buildings.

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Speaker 1: I mean we're out, you know, we're adjacent to the

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And you don't have to have hash site, you have

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Speaker 3: This is free.

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Speaker 1: There's a bunch of stuff along the harbor. There's stuff

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Speaker 1: feels more spread out, and to your point, it feels

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Speaker 7: Around, which is nice because I think it's allowed for

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Speaker 7: I was having gimlets and parmesan truffle fries at this

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Speaker 7: and cool down for two hours. This couple's walking out

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Speaker 7: Damn shirt and they're like, I'm so sorry. We have

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Speaker 7: to stop you and tell you we've seen a movie.

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Speaker 7: It's amazing and you too must watch it. It's Indian.

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Speaker 7: I've never been stop based off of like a fandom

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Speaker 4: Some Yeah, that's something quite magical that comic Con does.

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Speaker 4: It gets people excited to share what they love, and

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Speaker 3: Like That's what I love. You can make new.

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Speaker 4: the fact that out of the four of us here

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Speaker 8: Before please tell us about your party experience.

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Speaker 3: Because we've been we've been asleep from.

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Speaker 5: Home, so I mean the parties have been great.

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Speaker 6: The theming and the branding and everything is just like

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Speaker 6: so over the top and an amazing Like last night

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Speaker 6: I went to uh an Avatar party, like celebrating the

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Speaker 6: twentieth anniversary. There's a giant ice sculpture covered in sushi.

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Speaker 6: They were like elemental themes, cocktails and stuff. The Last

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Speaker 6: Airbender yes, yes, and uh Dante Bosco Zuko himself was

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Speaker 5: Where else are you going to see something like Filipino legend?

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Speaker 3: Yeah exactly.

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Speaker 4: It was really funny because I was speaking to someone

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Speaker 4: don't understand, Like, sure he's Zuko, but to us he's Roof.

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Speaker 3: You know, I love that because that's the way it

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Speaker 2: Should we get to do it?

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Speaker 5: Let's do it.

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Speaker 1: First up on news, south Park fresh off inking a

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Speaker 4: This is something I've learned. It started with my nephew,

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Speaker 7: First of all, that's an inside joke. We we wanted

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Speaker 3: Money and they are making the money.

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Speaker 1: So as soon as that deal was done, South Park

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Speaker 4: Including United States President Donald Trump just ripping him.

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Speaker 3: They absolutely took the piss out of him and you

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Speaker 1: And Trey Parker has since apologized, although clearly it was

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Speaker 1: Next up, Age of Revelation Marvel's Marvel Comics upcoming X

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Speaker 1: And his whole ideology is survival of fittest. It's evolution

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Speaker 3: It's like there's enough of this stuff for everyone.

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Speaker 6: for everybody to be like, Okay, we did it.

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Speaker 5: They made like a decent movie.

447
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Speaker 6: So I feel like that's maybe where the disconnect, at

448
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Speaker 6: least the way we feel about the movie versus what

449
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Speaker 6: the general audience seems to think is coming from.

450
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Speaker 4: But I think that's really good insight. And I just

451
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Speaker 4: think also like for us, we want it to be

452
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Speaker 4: that thing that gives us that childhood joy and the feeling.

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Speaker 3: You know what, I'm sure.

454
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Speaker 4: It's going to give that to a lot of people,

455
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Speaker 4: and that makes me really happy. And as we've always said,

456
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Speaker 4: guess what we still got? The comics still got everything

457
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Speaker 4: else that we use.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, where do we think it lands? Okay?

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Speaker 1: So here is our top six ok of opening ok

460
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Speaker 1: opening weekends. Minecraft Number one, Lelo and Stitch number two, Sinners,

461
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Speaker 1: Jurassic World Rebirth, How To Train Your Dragon, Superman, Oh,

462
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Speaker 1: Fantastic four. Is it going to slot in somewhere in

463
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Speaker 1: that top four? One hundred and sixty two opening for Minecraft,

464
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Speaker 1: one for six for Lelo and Stitch. Does it crack

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Speaker 1: the top two?

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Speaker 3: I don't think it's gonna Cracklelo and Stitch, just because

467
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Speaker 3: my understanding as well is like that is still swelling.

468
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Speaker 4: Obviously, open weekend is open weekend, but I think, like

469
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Speaker 4: that's one hundred and forty six. I think this is

470
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Speaker 4: maybe gonna be a very funny instance for people like us.

471
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Speaker 4: I think it's gonna make one hundred and twenty four million,

472
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Speaker 4: and it's going to be exactly the same number of

473
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Speaker 4: millions around.

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Speaker 3: The space of Superman.

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Speaker 4: And I think what it's gonna tell people is, yes,

476
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Speaker 4: there's an appetite for this stuff, but you've got to

477
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Speaker 4: stop trying to pretend that every movie can be a

478
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Speaker 4: billion dollar movie and stop.

479
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Speaker 1: Making these movies. There's a retrenchman happening exactly. It might

480
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Speaker 1: be that eight hundred million is like the new hit

481
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Speaker 1: and then and even then they can the new average,

482
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Speaker 1: you know. So if the problem is that's like several

483
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Speaker 1: hundred million dollars in difference. So like what happens now,

484
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Speaker 1: and how do we change the way we produce these movies?

485
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Speaker 4: I know, start producing them like there are all kinds

486
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Speaker 4: of movies, like there are all kinds of comic books.

487
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Speaker 4: I truly believe you could give someone ten million dollars

488
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Speaker 4: with a vision or something make an incredible, superior movie

489
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Speaker 4: in Australia that's completely different to anything that we would

490
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Speaker 4: kind of expect. I think that's like there's got to

491
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Speaker 4: be a reconsideration. Sure, because even like Thunderbolts, it did well.

492
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Speaker 4: It opened well, very good, very good.

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Speaker 7: Number nine at the highest grossing, so it's still in

494
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Speaker 7: the top ten.

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Speaker 3: But at the same time, where is it at four hundred?

496
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Speaker 3: I was gonna say it didn't make it?

497
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Speaker 4: Did I'm pretty sure it didn't ever hit five hundred

498
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Speaker 4: And that was the issue was it went to four

499
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Speaker 4: high fours, but it wasn't doing that big climb the

500
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Speaker 4: long legs, and that was legitimately a great movie with great.

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Speaker 6: I think the thing is we got to start raining

502
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Speaker 6: in some of these budgets, Like you know, every movie

503
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Speaker 6: doesn't need to have a two hundred and fifty million

504
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Speaker 6: dollar budget. So I don't see a reason why we

505
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Speaker 6: can't have like a ninety million dollar Blade movie, just

506
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Speaker 6: like make it happen, you know. So Yeah, I think

507
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Speaker 6: that's the biggest thing, Like we don't need to make the.

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Speaker 8: First movie you cheap out on Blade.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's one of those things where I do think

510
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Speaker 4: Like Blade for example, I mean, think about this. I

511
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Speaker 4: know it was a different time. I know money was different.

512
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Speaker 4: James Cameron, like he made Terminated Too for one hundred

513
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Speaker 4: million dollars. It was the most expensive movie of its

514
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Speaker 4: time at the time.

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Speaker 3: Still looks beautiful.

516
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Speaker 4: Maybe there is a space where young new creators or

517
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Speaker 4: artists should be getting grants and incentives and money to

518
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Speaker 4: make see what would be a little bit different.

519
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Speaker 3: Think about were Wolf by Night. It was so good,

520
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Speaker 3: it was so good that also.

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Speaker 1: That also like made zero the night made zero money,

522
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Speaker 1: and it was like they just like through Michael like

523
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Speaker 1: a couple million and him, go do your thing.

524
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Speaker 4: Now, I'm saying, let him do the thing in the

525
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Speaker 4: MCU because he's good at it, Like why isn't why

526
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Speaker 4: isn't he directing or co directing Blade? And then making

527
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Speaker 4: sure that the script is written by a black person

528
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Speaker 4: who actually has some interest, maybe someone from London, because

529
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Speaker 4: that's actually where Blade. You know, he was raised in

530
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Speaker 4: the Red Light district with all of his mom and

531
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Speaker 4: her sex worker friends. Were like, they're the ones who

532
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Speaker 4: are raising him until obviously his mum untimely death needs revenge.

533
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Speaker 4: But like there's different ways, and I think you make

534
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Speaker 4: a good call. I think after Sinners, if they didn't

535
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Speaker 4: call Ryan Coogle up and start begging him to make

536
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Speaker 4: that Blade movie, they're dumb.

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Speaker 8: I think it's how we got the announcement. It was

538
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Speaker 8: the earliest week.

539
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Speaker 4: They're like, you can't own this one, but we can't

540
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Speaker 4: pay you way more money.

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Speaker 10: A lot of spin offsnounced so much fine many the

542
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Speaker 10: freaking where he's President voiced by the legendary Keith David

543
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Speaker 10: was getting President and Andre Curtis, okay, Joe Andre Curtis, what.

544
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Speaker 3: That show is going to be about? Because we couldn't

545
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Speaker 3: walk it out, like they have not told us.

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Speaker 8: So here here's what I was reading this morning.

547
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Speaker 7: They were like, we would love this even if it

548
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Speaker 7: wasn't a part of Ricky Morning, because the character is

549
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Speaker 7: so fascinating.

550
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Speaker 8: The world they built out is really great.

551
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Speaker 7: The character is interesting and to be fair, it's like,

552
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Speaker 7: what if Barack Obama had all of that swagger still

553
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Speaker 7: but then was like a total asshole publicly, And that

554
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Speaker 7: is an interesting angle on a character. It's interesting that

555
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Speaker 7: he's like Rix Nemesis. I think maybe most famously in

556
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Speaker 7: the show, he slept with rixa.

557
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Speaker 8: One of my favorite moments of the show. So I

558
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Speaker 8: don't I don't know.

559
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Speaker 7: I don't know if it's like a political like satire

560
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Speaker 7: show or if it's another sort of action adventure show.

561
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Speaker 8: We do have seen him do a lot of like

562
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Speaker 8: secret covert stuff on Rick and Morty, so it's pop.

563
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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, So it seems like maybe they'll go in

564
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Speaker 7: more of that direction, which is fun. I still don't

565
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Speaker 7: know who's leading is just I'm like, I mean, Dan's

566
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Speaker 7: still leading it, but I don't know who, like which

567
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Speaker 7: writers he's bringing over, so it's still a lot of

568
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 7: big question marks. I think this is a very interesting

569
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Speaker 7: character to spin out. I thought like Space Beth maybe

570
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Speaker 7: be your option. I would also take an alt universe

571
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Speaker 7: Summer because I'm obsessed with Summer. I think she's totally

572
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Speaker 7: super funny. Why Me Too Somewhere has the greatest adventure,

573
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Speaker 7: so it's an interesting choice.

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Speaker 8: Well, we'll have to see what happens.

575
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Speaker 7: I think Adult Swim and its animated shows are like

576
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Speaker 7: wildly hit or miss, So I don't know where this

577
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Speaker 7: will land in the end.

578
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Speaker 2: Up next Outlander.

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Speaker 1: Fans of period time travel romance, the show will continue,

580
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Speaker 1: the vibe will continue. The eighteenth century love affair will continue.

581
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Speaker 2: With Blood of My Blood a wild title.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, it's a romance show, and that is the title.

583
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Speaker 7: Not only is it a romance show, it is a

584
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Speaker 7: romance about Jamie and Kaitlyn's parents, it is the two

585
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 7: leads of the current show's parents.

586
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Speaker 2: I'm traveling through time her parents go back in time.

587
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Speaker 8: And maybe meet his paper.

588
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Speaker 3: Oh, I was gonna say, I thought you meant they

589
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Speaker 3: had the same parents. I was like, it's always been

590
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Speaker 3: kind of an adult show. I was confused.

591
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Speaker 7: I was like, no, no, But I think equally as

592
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Speaker 7: weird and implausible is like, okay, so her parents also

593
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Speaker 7: time travelers, and time travel to the era of his parents,

594
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Speaker 7: and all the time you could travel to right there and.

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Speaker 3: Then feel like at that time.

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Speaker 7: And I also feel like we spent so much time

597
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Speaker 7: with these characters that I really liked them, and they

598
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Speaker 7: feel almost like Pear's and contemporaries.

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Speaker 8: I don't want to see their parents Boone.

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Speaker 2: I mean that's what the show is.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, exactly confused about who this show is for. And

602
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Speaker 7: with Anglis it like two weeks to show.

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Speaker 1: Fans of romance novels, fans of time travel also met fans.

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Speaker 2: Of period sex.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say, the history and history, but now

606
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Speaker 1: involving the parents of the character.

607
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Speaker 3: What cool new characters. It was funny.

608
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Speaker 4: I was me and Joel hanging out in the room

609
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Speaker 4: eating I think like pizza when when Joel found out

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Speaker 4: about this, and it was incense.

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Speaker 1: That's why I just had to imagine traveling back to

612
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Speaker 1: you know whatever, the eighteeenth century, knowing what you know

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Speaker 1: about sex.

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.

615
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Speaker 3: It would be like a.

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Speaker 2: Nuclear bomb going. People wouldn't be ready for you were

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Speaker 2: the common.

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Speaker 1: Goal twenty first sex century sex technology that you the

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Speaker 1: knowledge that you have delivered century people would be like, what, no,

620
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Speaker 1: this is.

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Speaker 3: Ready for this freak.

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Speaker 4: It's true, thy like those shows, the idea of sex

623
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Speaker 4: is usually this was original Game of Thrones series problem.

624
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Speaker 4: One of the reasons I never managed to finish out Under.

625
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Speaker 4: They basically imagine that all sex is penetrative sex, and

626
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Speaker 4: in the old days, lots of women didn't want to

627
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Speaker 4: have it, so, oh, what happens next?

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Speaker 7: You know?

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Speaker 4: So I am always like, come on, guys, do something,

630
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Speaker 4: but you know what, maybe it will be good. They

631
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Speaker 4: did a similar thing with Supernatural where they spun it

632
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Speaker 4: off with the parents. I don't think it lasted very long,

633
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Speaker 4: but I did think the cost was charming. So still

634
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Speaker 4: up in there, we don't know. Also, how had I

635
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Speaker 4: not heard about this show and it comes out in

636
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Speaker 4: two weeks? Is it like a surprise drop?

637
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Speaker 8: A lot of surprise drops have What did Amazon just dropped.

638
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Speaker 7: Like an ice cubean Tragi p Henson remake up like

639
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Speaker 7: a classic film.

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Speaker 8: They're like next week.

641
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Speaker 7: I was like, wait, what like a spy opulent through.

642
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 7: I was like, okay, there's a weird in the content.

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Speaker 7: Boom right, it was so many shows.

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Speaker 4: There's something about that notion of like that is a

645
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Speaker 4: representation of how we interact with TV and TV shows

646
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Speaker 4: because in the old days, we all imagine we knew

647
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Speaker 4: this has shot on a studio set, shot on location,

648
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Speaker 4: blah blah blah, they take this long to film. Here's

649
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Speaker 4: the press junkets here is the time till the film

650
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Speaker 4: comes out, Here is the time till it comes out

651
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Speaker 4: on home video. All of that has changed, and then

652
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Speaker 4: we're in a situation now where it's like somebody can

653
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Speaker 4: make a movie. It can be a passion project of

654
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Speaker 4: their life and you don't even know it exists till

655
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Speaker 4: it comes on Trube because they all just want to

656
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Speaker 4: put something out. It's a it's a really interesting kind

657
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Speaker 4: of weird place to be, but there is a boom.

658
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Speaker 4: Hopefully the jobs are coming back to La and.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. More comics spinoffs.

660
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Speaker 1: China Spin Imperial is spinning out of several storylines. The

661
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Speaker 1: five titles are set up in the Imperial War one shot,

662
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Speaker 1: which will launch the the Crossover event. This is picking

663
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Speaker 1: up from storylines involving She Hulk, Phoenix, Stared, Devil, Nova

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Speaker 1: Love when they just like I feel like the.

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Speaker 4: Marvel is the ultimate, Like they have been trying to

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Speaker 4: make Nova a thing like Fetch for such a long time, and.

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Speaker 3: I know, I know it's gonna I do believe in it.

668
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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna say it can.

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Speaker 4: Never happen, but like we need some new takes, It's true,

670
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Speaker 4: we need some new takes on that specifically.

671
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 1: And also Planet Shehawks now a new solo series unlike

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Speaker 1: anything else in Choak's history. She go into space.

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Speaker 3: She's going to space.

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Speaker 8: She's going to space.

675
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Speaker 1: She's going to use her brains in her brond to

676
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Speaker 1: maintain order on the savage planet of Scars. Footsteps a

677
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:38,239
Speaker 1: little bit, Nova Centurion represents a new era for one

678
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Speaker 1: of Marvel's oldest and most iconic space fairing heroes. New

679
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Speaker 1: to your point new Nova stuff.

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Speaker 3: I think that's an interesting take.

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Speaker 4: I remember when they launched, like they didn't call it this,

682
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Speaker 4: but he was essentially like kid Nova.

683
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Speaker 1: That was when I was didn't know, he didn't know

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Speaker 1: how to work. Was like the greatest American hero meets Novaeah.

685
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I have to say it was actually like a

686
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Speaker 3: pretty funny fun book.

687
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Speaker 4: But I again again, they need to find if they

688
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 4: want Nova to be at the heart of them see You,

689
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Speaker 4: which they have for so long, they need to find

690
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Speaker 4: someone who can make it into like Akmalacan level success.

691
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 3: Like it needs to be something that pops off organically, because.

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Speaker 7: The story is the Spider Man animated series. You know,

693
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Speaker 7: a great Kid Nova hang out with like Girl White Tiger.

694
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Speaker 8: I love that verse.

695
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 7: He's like cocky, but he again doesn't really know how

696
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Speaker 7: to use his powers yet. He knows he belongs to

697
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Speaker 7: part of this great like core, but they're far away.

698
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 7: He's on Earth and separated from him, and so he's

699
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Speaker 7: figuring all that out. So it's like very like fish

700
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Speaker 7: out of water, like up and Hummer, with a lot

701
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Speaker 7: of promise. And I felt that that was like a

702
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Speaker 7: really interesting angle on a character I didn't know much about.

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Speaker 7: It definitely made me want to learn more about him,

704
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Speaker 7: So maybe we can lean in that angle hole.

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Speaker 1: Does the Lantern Show make any Nova ooh I Vision

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Speaker 1: show veterans less likely?

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Speaker 4: I don't know, because I think that the Green Lantern

708
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Speaker 4: Corpse are like universal and multiversal, so it could actually

709
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Speaker 4: be interesting to Nova as almost like you know Cap

710
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Speaker 4: in Civil.

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00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 2: War or some of Bops both space cops.

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Speaker 4: I just wonder if because there's only one of Nova,

713
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 4: there becomes some kind of antagonism between them. He doesn't

714
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 4: like the way they're policing, or he doesn't think they're

715
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 4: doing it well enough.

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Speaker 3: It could really you.

717
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Speaker 1: Could kill off the entire Novacorp, which is always fun

718
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Speaker 1: to do it exactly. The only idea it seems like

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Speaker 1: they ever.

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Speaker 3: Had I'm like, come on, but I do.

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Speaker 4: I will say I love the use. I like to

722
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Speaker 4: read a solicit hear what they're saying about it. I

723
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Speaker 4: want to see that they're having fun. I don't want

724
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Speaker 4: it to read like it's AI. I like that they

725
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Speaker 4: kind of called him like a space farer that hints

726
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Speaker 4: at some kind of like maybe vintagey Rocketeer, like more

727
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Speaker 4: like an Aventure comic, which I think could be really

728
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Speaker 4: fun for that.

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Speaker 1: Coming up next, our interviews with Alien Earths Noah Holly

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Speaker 1: and Alex Buffer. We're with Alex Ranlan Earth. Thank you

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Speaker 1: so much for joining us our pleasure.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, thanks for having us.

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Speaker 2: Tell us how this project came about.

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Speaker 12: Well, it starts a conversation with FX, who I've worked

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Speaker 12: with for a very long time, and they said, if

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Speaker 12: we could get Alien for television, do you have an idea?

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Speaker 12: And the problem with me is if you asked me

738
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Speaker 12: if I have an idea, I'm going to have an idea.

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Speaker 12: And so I did very quickly have an idea that

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Speaker 12: became the show, but it took a couple of years

741
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Speaker 12: to get the rights. But what was nice is you

742
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Speaker 12: know you you you still on it for a couple

743
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Speaker 12: of years and then you go back to it and

744
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Speaker 12: you see if it holds up, and you know all

745
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Speaker 12: the elements that you're that you watch were in that original.

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Speaker 1: Well, we've seen the pilot and it's amazing. We'll be

747
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Speaker 1: general regarding details, but Joelle.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I am obsessed with the pilot. I've had such

749
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Speaker 7: a good time watching it. I was telling Jason earlier

750
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Speaker 7: that I've had to sit on my hands and like not.

751
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Speaker 7: I mean, my father's a huge alien fan. Everything about

752
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 7: like when I get the chance to talk to him

753
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Speaker 7: about it, was the first thing I want to talk about.

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Speaker 8: I want to talk about hiding the alien in the frame.

755
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 7: Yeah, Like talk to me a little bit about like

756
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Speaker 7: how much of that is initially in the script, and

757
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Speaker 7: how much of is that is you like working with

758
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Speaker 7: your cinematographer and producting I figure out, like Howard because

759
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Speaker 7: we don't know. I'm not spoiling anythings Refoor embargo, but

760
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Speaker 7: like talking about how you worked that into the horror

761
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Speaker 7: element of it.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 12: I mean one of the brilliant things about having a

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Speaker 12: hr Giger on the movie, not just creating the creatures,

765
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Speaker 12: is is you know, his design infused the whole movie,

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Speaker 12: and so when you watch Alien, what you realize is

767
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Speaker 12: that all the shapes on the ship are evocative of

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Speaker 12: the creature itself, so you're never really sure when you're

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Speaker 12: seeing it and when you're not. And you know, that

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Speaker 12: was certainly an inspiration for us. And then, you know,

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Speaker 12: I'm big on character reveals. I think that when you

772
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Speaker 12: introduce a character, you have to make the iconic, and

773
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Speaker 12: so it was really important to me that that first

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Speaker 12: moment that you really see the Xenomorph is a movie

775
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Speaker 12: star moment. And you know, I can report from holl

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Speaker 12: Age that it did exactly what I wanted report for

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Speaker 12: my computer.

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Speaker 7: It did exactly like, oh my god, I was screaming

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Speaker 7: the whole time. I love I loved watching the pilot. Well,

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Speaker 7: speaking of like big you know, character reveals, and uh,

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Speaker 7: first time, Alex, you play CJ, who immediately fall in

782
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Speaker 7: love with He's like such a sweet, precious boy, talk

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Speaker 7: a little bit about you know, and and in the

784
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Speaker 7: show he's kind of like the only grounded human we're

785
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Speaker 7: dealing with like cyborgs and we're dealing with billionaire boy

786
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Speaker 7: princes and stuff, and like here come CJ. And he's

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Speaker 7: like very grounded and morally centered. For you like as

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Speaker 7: that sort of center. How was that for you as

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Speaker 7: an actor? And how did you feel about your reveal

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Speaker 7: of this character.

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Speaker 11: Yes, Pool misname it CJ. I don't know where's come from.

792
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 11: He's called do DiMaggio in full after the baseball player,

793
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Speaker 11: and then somewhere along the line that's becomes CJ. But anyway,

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Speaker 11: Hermit has been Yeah, he's been left thinkingly alone without

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Speaker 11: his family. It's just having as he believed. And I

796
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Speaker 11: don't think it's too much of a spoiler because I

797
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Speaker 11: think it's out there in the open that he's been

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Speaker 11: separated from his sister Wendy. And therefore I think there's

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Speaker 11: a sense that we find this quite yeah, that that

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Speaker 11: that he he's he's missing of a of a of

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Speaker 11: a motor, of a of a of a reason to

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Speaker 11: move throughout the world.

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Speaker 12: And but Alex and I talked a lot. There's a

804
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Speaker 12: couple of animated movies that are referenced in but one

805
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Speaker 12: that you don't see physically on screen. That that that

806
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:53,879
Speaker 12: Alex and I talked about was Wally Because I said,

807
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Speaker 12: you know, I want him to he's alone, but he's

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Speaker 12: not sad.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, you know, Yeah, And there's a sense that there's

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Speaker 11: a p sedualness to what he's doing and he's getting through.

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Speaker 11: He lives in this particular humanity minus world. He lives

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Speaker 11: sort of in the underbelly of the planet that we

813
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Speaker 11: find him in on this earth, that is in the

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Speaker 11: future from here, and he's kind of just getting on

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Speaker 11: with life by obligation rather than by choice. And he's

816
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Speaker 11: part of the military, but a medic. Yeah, and then

817
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Speaker 11: sort of I suppose the carpet of that day to

818
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 11: day ness of his life is ripped out from underneath

819
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Speaker 11: him when all the action thicks up.

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Speaker 1: No Alien is not a series that one would usually

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Speaker 1: think of as containing.

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Speaker 2: Music drops contemporary music trusts, but there's.

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Speaker 1: Some wonderful ones in the series, including songs by Metallica

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Speaker 1: by Tool by Nina Simon.

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Speaker 2: Tell me about the decision to do that.

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Speaker 12: You know, when you're making something for the fans, it's

827
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 12: about a feeling, a big feeling, right, And I made

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Speaker 12: the decision that you know, each episode is is a

829
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 12: bit of a cliffhanger, right, and what's going to launch

830
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 12: you out of an episode should be the feeling of

831
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Speaker 12: I'm exhilarated, I can't wait for more. And so there

832
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:17,840
Speaker 12: was this. I just started putting these these songs in

833
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:24,720
Speaker 12: these these classic you know, big anthemic, you know, metal

834
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Speaker 12: or or hard rock songs that that exist like Alien itself,

835
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Speaker 12: you know, in this classic sphere. And the combination of

836
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Speaker 12: that needle drop, those visuals, that moment and and and

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Speaker 12: that that smashed black you know, it becomes really a

838
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Speaker 12: big feeling. And I think, you know, looking at the

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Speaker 12: fan base of Alien, these are some rockers. I mean

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Speaker 12: literally in the movie Aliens, they go, let's rock.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 12: Right, So that's my motto to Askez, Well.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I love it.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 7: So that we've been talking a lot Jason and I

846
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:07,919
Speaker 7: on our podcast is like what defines science fiction?

847
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Speaker 8: It's the conversation we've been going back and forth.

848
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Speaker 7: We talked a little bit about it on our panel here,

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Speaker 7: and you use an Athma Off quote in the show,

850
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Speaker 7: which essentially is like, at one point technology becomes so

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Speaker 7: advanced it's magic. And given the advanced nature of the

852
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Speaker 7: technology in this show, I was curious, do you view

853
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Speaker 7: Alien the franchise as more science fiction or more fantasy?

854
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Speaker 7: And did that have an impact on how you were,

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Speaker 7: you know, crafting the show.

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Speaker 12: What I love about the first two movies. Is they

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Speaker 12: exist in the sort of retro futuristic sense. You know,

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Speaker 12: you have these cathode tube ray televisions and the asci

859
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Speaker 12: text and you know, certainly in Prometheus, I guess Ridley

860
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Speaker 12: decided that he didn't want to do that anymore, even

861
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Speaker 12: though its a prequel that now the technologies are holograms

862
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Speaker 12: and it's very advanced and everything. And but for me,

863
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 12: that's the identity of Alien and it is science fiction

864
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Speaker 12: in that it's speculative. And I do think that, you know,

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Speaker 12: so much of what the future that we've evolved into

866
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Speaker 12: is what was created by science fiction writers and filmmakers

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Speaker 12: in the sixties and seventies, et cetera. So for me,

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Speaker 12: it was just trying to create a version of the

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Speaker 12: future that felt plausible, you know, one or two steps

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Speaker 12: ahead of where we are right now, but and where

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00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:36,320
Speaker 12: we're grappling with very similar issues to what we're grappling

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Speaker 12: right now. But you know, I'm rooting for us here

873
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Speaker 12: on the planet Earth. And you know, let's see what

874
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Speaker 12: happens when we introduce an apex predator. Maybe that'll whip

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Speaker 12: us some shit.

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Speaker 1: Alex tell me about creating the character, was there a

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Speaker 1: moment when you thought, oh, I think I've got my

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Speaker 1: arms around CJ.

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Speaker 11: And what drives Yeah, I think it really was my

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00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 11: first days filming with Sydney Chandler, who plays Wendy, who

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Speaker 11: is that I play her sibling? There was something and

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Speaker 11: I think this happens sometimes when until you've sort of

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Speaker 11: worked out your through line and your place is a

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Speaker 11: character in a story, things can be slightly there's a

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Speaker 11: sort of fuzziness. And being on set with Sydney for

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Speaker 11: the first day and it was, you know, maybe a

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Speaker 11: couple of weeks into filming, I something to think became

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Speaker 11: crystal clear as to what I was doing there who

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Speaker 11: my character thought we had to protect and the tension

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Speaker 11: and then grows out of that because and I don't

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Speaker 11: think again it's a spoiler. Wendy was formerly known to

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Speaker 11: Hermit as Marci and was a girl, a ten ninety

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Speaker 11: ten year old girl.

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Speaker 3: Is that right?

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Speaker 12: She's twelve in the show twelve, but you probably haven't

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Speaker 12: seen her for yeah.

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Speaker 2: Since that time.

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Speaker 11: And therefore I'm meeting someone who I remember in a

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Speaker 11: totally different cell as this hybrid human and all this

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Speaker 11: care that I feel for this person, where do I

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Speaker 11: put it because he's now more than human.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well this has been fantastic. Thank you so much, No One,

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Speaker 1: Alex for joining us, Thank you well. Next up on

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Speaker 1: Extra Vision, we're gathering our roundtable to discuss fantastic four

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Speaker 1: first steps.

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