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Speaker 1: All that was nasty. Writer writes the latest news and

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Speaker 1: notes from the insiders who cover the teams. Drilled by Simmons.

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Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons is bawling, Bring it on, Bring it on.

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Speaker 1: Swim the ground by Buda Faker like a torpedo. He

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Speaker 1: came flying into the backfield, pink skirt and nobody. Here's

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Speaker 1: Paul Calvc. I kind of feel like I should come

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Speaker 1: clean right off the top here, sort of a confessional

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Speaker 1: on this edition of Cardinals Underground. Paul Calvc, Darren Urban,

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Speaker 1: Danny Siak. I'm just getting this out of the way

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Speaker 1: and then I'll feel better about myself. Perhaps work with

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Speaker 1: me here. Danny was a late first half and Jason

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Speaker 1: Kelsey left the game. With injury hoppled off. There might

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Speaker 1: have been a part, okay, maybe all of me who

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Speaker 1: really said, hey, Jason Kelsey, world's best center and key

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Speaker 1: to that offensive line, and Eagles are already missing the

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Speaker 1: starting left tackle and the left guard. You know, if

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Speaker 1: you want to spend the rest of this game in

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Speaker 1: the training room, maybe on a card or in your

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Speaker 1: sweats and get ready for the team flight home and not, no,

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Speaker 1: don't come back for the second half. And there was

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Speaker 1: Jason Kelsey after X ray somehow gutting it out and

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Speaker 1: coming back for the second half and then keying that

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Speaker 1: offensive line for the Eagles. I do believe it's the

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Speaker 1: first and only time that I've really, you know, let injuries,

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Speaker 1: you know, come into play. I never wish injury upon anyone.

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Speaker 1: But if he was going to be injured, why did

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Speaker 1: it have to be such a quick recovery? I guess,

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Speaker 1: is what I'm saying in a meander in fashion. I

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Speaker 1: doubt Darren believes in this, Paul, But do you believe

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Speaker 1: in karma? Sure? Absolutely I do. I would be careful

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Speaker 1: next time. Yeah, So I'm coming clean. It's it's like

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Speaker 1: it's a it's a confession of sorts. I do think

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Speaker 1: it's kind of funny when you're talking about you know,

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Speaker 1: he came back, he only missed three snaps. No, it's

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Speaker 1: not like well as the very end of the first half,

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Speaker 1: and so he had it was there was the timing thing,

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Speaker 1: but like he missed three snaps, and I'm like, okay,

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Speaker 1: so Pauli Pennance, I'll deal with that later. Right now,

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Speaker 1: we've got Cardinals underground and certainly don't have a Cardinals victory?

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Speaker 1: Are we going? Is anybody really willing to use the

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Speaker 1: words moral victory? I mean, that's that's not that's not

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Speaker 1: part of the lexicon in the NFL. Doesn't show up

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Speaker 1: in the win column. No, No, absolutely, Now I could

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Speaker 1: understand it. Did they hang toe for toe? Okay? And

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Speaker 1: in some regards they got down fourteen nothing again and

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Speaker 1: then came back. I get it, And there they were

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Speaker 1: at the very end. But too many self inflicted issues

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Speaker 1: was so much frustration and angst, shall we say after

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Speaker 1: the game, which I do believe is a good thing.

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Speaker 1: We'll get to that in a minute. But there were

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Speaker 1: enough errors to go around for the Ars on our Cardinals.

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Speaker 1: They yeah, they should be mad at themselves as we

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Speaker 1: not like exactly who they see. Well, this was another

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Speaker 1: winnable game for the Cardinals, going toe to toe with

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Speaker 1: the only undefeated team in the league and the Philadelphia Eagles.

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Speaker 1: And the fact that you're right it was self inflicted wounds.

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Speaker 1: It's a lot of the same things we've seen, at

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Speaker 1: least on offense, that have still been plaguing this team.

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Speaker 1: If you're going to look at the moral victory, you

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Speaker 1: hauled your own against the Eagles defense. Another good performance.

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Speaker 1: Some good things that look different on offense. I know

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Speaker 1: how you know Benjamin played so I could see I

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Speaker 1: defended a screen before? I mean that tight end screen.

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Speaker 1: That's inexcusable? Why why does that is such a big

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Speaker 1: hitter for such big yards? And that was one of

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Speaker 1: the big adjustments they had to make when they came

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Speaker 1: I mean the screen game for what the Eagles do

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Speaker 1: I mean, how many bubble screens did the Eagles throw? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: seven minutes. Yeah, I mean you lost time possession thirty

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Speaker 1: so you know that's where time of possession does matter

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Speaker 1: a massing humanity. And guess what, even after the whistle blows,

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Speaker 1: up being all back for a penalty. Well, there was

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Speaker 1: doing it. He is not big enough to necessarily do it.

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Speaker 1: guess I'm getting confused over if he's going to be

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Speaker 1: your quarterback. Now, if you want to take it to

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Speaker 1: the next level and say, well, if Kyler can't do that,

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Speaker 1: then he can't be this quarterback. Get him out of here.

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Speaker 1: We can have a different discussion. But if you're gonna

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Speaker 1: and I'm not saying just you trusty, this is this

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Speaker 1: So you're you're either saying move on from Kyler as

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Speaker 1: ever quarterbacks sneaked it yet in his Cardinal's career from

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Speaker 1: under center, That's an honest question. I do not believe.

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Speaker 1: So maybe you break the huddle and he him Benjamin

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Speaker 1: incumbent kicker miss kicks that you thought they should have made,

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Speaker 1: absolutely and cost this team games. I mean, it's it's

427
00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:55,280
Speaker 1: not Matt Prater's missed a kick or two that costs

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Speaker 1: this team. So you know it's it's in fact, going

429
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Speaker 1: to Seattle. He had a really bad game at Seattle

430
00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:03,760
Speaker 1: last year and missed a couple of field goals. They

431
00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:05,480
Speaker 1: did win, but he missed a couple of field goals

432
00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:07,600
Speaker 1: in an extra point, and I think his battery was

433
00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:10,280
Speaker 1: changed up, wasn't that the game without Aaron or And

434
00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:15,199
Speaker 1: the wind was blown in off in Seattle like it

435
00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:16,960
Speaker 1: does from the open end of the stadium, and he

436
00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,280
Speaker 1: was kicking that direction. Those are all issues, you know,

437
00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:22,719
Speaker 1: which which aren't issues obviously at home the conditions are perfect, um,

438
00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:25,280
Speaker 1: but you have a kicker, you just sign off the street.

439
00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:29,359
Speaker 1: So honestly, once again, the play that resonates for me

440
00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:31,200
Speaker 1: the most, And you're right, Danny. They got the ball

441
00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:33,920
Speaker 1: the twenty five, they drove it down to the Eagles

442
00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:36,200
Speaker 1: twenty five, and they did it with a buck forty

443
00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:37,960
Speaker 1: five left on the clock, So there was a lot

444
00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,280
Speaker 1: to like in there. But the one play that sticks

445
00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:43,160
Speaker 1: with me the most is him missing zach Ertz. Yeah,

446
00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:46,159
Speaker 1: that's true. Why oh deep chunk play that would have

447
00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:49,080
Speaker 1: changed everything on that try because then you do get

448
00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:50,680
Speaker 1: to go from that touch and Urtz was tracking to

449
00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,200
Speaker 1: go out of bounds under about a thirty yard game. Yes,

450
00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:55,879
Speaker 1: and it all comes down as cliche as it is.

451
00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:57,840
Speaker 1: I mean even growing up when I played sports, this

452
00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:00,080
Speaker 1: is something I was told by my coaches is it

453
00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,200
Speaker 1: comes down to more than one play. So when Justin

454
00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:04,919
Speaker 1: Pugh is in the locker room around the media waiting

455
00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:08,280
Speaker 1: and talking with kicker Matt Avendola, it is more than

456
00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:10,800
Speaker 1: just the kick. To me, it's it's it's obviously that

457
00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:12,800
Speaker 1: is a big play, but especially the way that the

458
00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:14,920
Speaker 1: offense started the game when they had so many missed

459
00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:18,080
Speaker 1: opportunities like that. That's where I understand that as your teammate,

460
00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,240
Speaker 1: is you is you're vouching for them. To me, it's

461
00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:23,800
Speaker 1: if you're scoring and you're having all these you know,

462
00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:26,960
Speaker 1: extra points that are missed, or you have your consistent

463
00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,600
Speaker 1: kicker missing these field goals that they always make. So

464
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Speaker 1: I do understand of it comes down to more than

465
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Speaker 1: just that play. That zach Ertz then complete passy you're

466
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Speaker 1: talking about right there, like another example of it was

467
00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:42,200
Speaker 1: more than just that missed field goal. That sure the

468
00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:46,520
Speaker 1: Cardinals had opportunities Lvin beacham the false start on that

469
00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:49,600
Speaker 1: drive as well, which one you're going attribute to the

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Speaker 1: silent count. I think they got messed up on that

471
00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,800
Speaker 1: because you know Eagles are actually showing a zero blitz

472
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Speaker 1: right there and a discombobily of the Cardinals for a

473
00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,280
Speaker 1: moment sort of things. There's no doubt about it. Here's

474
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Speaker 1: if you had zoo him out on that miss, isn't me?

475
00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:06,240
Speaker 1: Or have there been a number of misses by Kyler

476
00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:09,200
Speaker 1: so far this year because Craig Grielu on Cardinals Cover

477
00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,800
Speaker 1: two had a sat that right now, his completion percentage

478
00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:15,600
Speaker 1: is between sixty five and sixty six percent, which is

479
00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,360
Speaker 1: the lowest of his NFL career since his rookie year.

480
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Speaker 1: And if you look at a lot of the metrics

481
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Speaker 1: on Kyler and the passing, he's thirty first or thirty

482
00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:27,119
Speaker 1: second yards per attempt and a bunch of other numbers

483
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Speaker 1: that I won't get into hashtag no math. I'm just

484
00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:34,960
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, where is the court and does that

485
00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:37,760
Speaker 1: lead to some of his frustration after the game? An

486
00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,520
Speaker 1: hour elapses before he gets to the podium and he's

487
00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:43,399
Speaker 1: still in full uniform. Now, anybody who's been in that

488
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:46,560
Speaker 1: Cardinal's locker room, you know Kyler he wears every game,

489
00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:48,879
Speaker 1: and he will wear his uniform for a long time

490
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Speaker 1: before he gets into the shower. He does, but but

491
00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:54,159
Speaker 1: he's never Yeah, I mean there was their game in

492
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:57,320
Speaker 1: Detroit last year. It was a really bad loss, lackluster loss,

493
00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:59,480
Speaker 1: and he took a long time getting the post by

494
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:03,000
Speaker 1: taking a long time to get well. But the uniform

495
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,440
Speaker 1: we've never seen that. We just saw it last week.

496
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,320
Speaker 1: Now he came in right away, but JJ Watt came in.

497
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Speaker 1: I'm saying the combination the long way and still that's

498
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And look, the reality is, and we

499
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:17,000
Speaker 1: saw the pictures. If I'm Kyler Murray, I'm not coming

500
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,640
Speaker 1: in the interview room wearing what I wore to the game.

501
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,640
Speaker 1: That's something. But but I also say this, I mean,

502
00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,480
Speaker 1: I don't I agree with you. He's been way better

503
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:28,160
Speaker 1: in terms of coming into the interview room sooner this year,

504
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:31,000
Speaker 1: with props to him and the media relations department to

505
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:34,120
Speaker 1: work on that. So that it happens, but that used

506
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 1: to be a common occurrence. Was forty five minutes to

507
00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:40,040
Speaker 1: an hour waiting around for Kyler win or lose. So

508
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:43,080
Speaker 1: he likes to sit in his locker. He likes to

509
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,240
Speaker 1: check his phone after the game. He likes to kind

510
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:49,320
Speaker 1: of be by himself for a few minutes. He was

511
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:51,680
Speaker 1: hanging though at his locker. His head was hanging down

512
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Speaker 1: for quite some time. We were in the locker room

513
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Speaker 1: before he went off for his press conference, and the

514
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Speaker 1: first question, which I believe might have been your question

515
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,639
Speaker 1: to Kyler Murray, was he almost seemed like he was

516
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,880
Speaker 1: holding back tears. He was so emotional talking about processing

517
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 1: the loss, like it seemed very heavy on him. Again,

518
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Speaker 1: I don't play in the NFL, but I've played enough sports,

519
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,320
Speaker 1: and I've played enough sports that I cared enough about

520
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:18,120
Speaker 1: that I get it. And you know, at my age,

521
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 1: now you've learned a little bit more and you understand

522
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 1: a little bit more. But when I was twenty five,

523
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Speaker 1: hell no, and I get it, even even the Justin

524
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Speaker 1: Pugh stuff. I mean the part about the Justin Pugh

525
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:33,800
Speaker 1: stuff where he was so upset bothered me because he

526
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Speaker 1: wanted to blame the media, which I'm not a big

527
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 1: fan of for obvious reasons. I that's that's my area,

528
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Speaker 1: and I want to say, Justin come on, man, I

529
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:45,680
Speaker 1: mean I've been I've been doing this as long almost

530
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Speaker 1: as long as you've been alive, and you know but

531
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Speaker 1: you and you know better than this. But in terms

532
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:54,720
Speaker 1: of his frustration, his anger, however, it manifests itself, whether

533
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,040
Speaker 1: it's Justin Pugh getting in front of the cameras and

534
00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:59,959
Speaker 1: drop an F bombs all over the place, or Kyler

535
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 1: sitting in his locker and then coming to us and

536
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 1: not having a lot to say, or even zach Ertz,

537
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 1: who was a little bit more verbose than Kyler was,

538
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 1: but clearly talked about how upset he was. I mean well,

539
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:17,920
Speaker 1: and a number of guys talked. That was the confusing

540
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 1: no comprendo part for me on Justin Peut was there

541
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,479
Speaker 1: were a number of people who got interviewed in the

542
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 1: locker room. All you have to do is go to

543
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:25,920
Speaker 1: easy Cardinals dot com and click on the videos. There's

544
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,359
Speaker 1: a half dozen of his teammates that faced the cameras.

545
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:31,359
Speaker 1: It wasn't just Matt AMNDL. The media wasn't just waiting

546
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 1: to talk to one guy, right, And maybe he didn't

547
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 1: see that, but you're right. I think it's just probably

548
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:37,240
Speaker 1: thinking of, oh, he missed the kicks, so we have

549
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:39,119
Speaker 1: to talk to him, when in reality, if he had

550
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 1: even made that kick to go to overtime win or Lou,

551
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 1: I think he would have still been an intriguing, intriguing

552
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 1: person to talk to because as the media, we didn't

553
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Speaker 1: get a chance to talk to him during the week

554
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:51,360
Speaker 1: after he was signed here, So either way, I think

555
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 1: he would have been somebody the media would have gone to.

556
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,480
Speaker 1: I think Peugh was just trying to stand up for

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Speaker 1: him and remind him that you know, this isn't all

558
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Speaker 1: on you. Well, he was trying to do a couple

559
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,680
Speaker 1: of things he was trying to do that was clearly

560
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:07,159
Speaker 1: also trying to send a message to the rest of us, which, okay,

561
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 1: message resolved and look and look and you guys were

562
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:14,640
Speaker 1: in there, so you tell me you take the temperature

563
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 1: on that room. It was palpable, right, The anger, the frustration,

564
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 1: and not everybody James Connor passed on a chance to

565
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 1: be interviewed, among others. So I mean, I mean, that's

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00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,119
Speaker 1: that's the most anger I've seen after a loss in

567
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 1: a long time. It really is. Now that's a very

568
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 1: subjective statement. You know, Wolf as his spankometer where he

569
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,160
Speaker 1: rates the level of physicality out on the field. I'm

570
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 1: glad you explained that, so this would be the frustration ometer.

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00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,399
Speaker 1: Uh you know it was. It was redlining after that game.

572
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 1: And I think it's a good thing, I really do,

573
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 1: because there were too many losses last year. You guys know,

574
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 1: down the stretch after they started ten and two, like, oh,

575
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:51,199
Speaker 1: we'll get the next one. There wasn't you know, I

576
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 1: mean the you know, on one end you can have anger.

577
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 1: On the other end, you can have apathy. It wasn't

578
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,920
Speaker 1: quite apathy, but it didn't quite guys didn't quite wear

579
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 1: it because they had already built up cushion, just like

580
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,400
Speaker 1: in two thousand and eight, where it was like, well

581
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:06,399
Speaker 1: we've already clinched the division world okay, without realizing maybe

582
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:08,920
Speaker 1: just maybe they had lost their edge along the way.

583
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 1: But there was definitely an edge in that locker room

584
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:14,159
Speaker 1: after the game. And so I'm curious what that means,

585
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 1: if anything, going forward. And we talked to Cliff Kingsbury

586
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 1: about it on his weekly TV show and he said, yeah,

587
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,679
Speaker 1: he said he sensed it. There's definitely a vibe. It

588
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,719
Speaker 1: was definitely visceral, if you will, And there that guys

589
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:28,959
Speaker 1: feel like, you know, this isn't us, this is not

590
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 1: the brand of ball were capable of plane What were

591
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:36,399
Speaker 1: the two things that we're tired of talking about? And

592
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 1: they're tired of having to listen to an answer no

593
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 1: home wins and offensive and what happened slow starts? What

594
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 1: do I win? And they came out of that game

595
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 1: not only did they not get the win, but they

596
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 1: didn't cross either of those outs. So those continue to

597
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 1: be stories for yet well for the home thing will

598
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 1: be another two weeks, almost a full calendar year from

599
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:00,480
Speaker 1: their last win. And you know what, if they want

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00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 1: to use us as the foil, if they want to

601
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 1: use us as the heavy, the bad guy, if you will,

602
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 1: then go for it. Yeah. If they're going to use

603
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 1: the media as some sort of nemesis, that is you

604
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 1: know the problem here for no home wins, your longest

605
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 1: home losing streaks since the late fifties, and no points

606
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 1: in the first quarter for the second or third straight week.

607
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 1: Is the only team in the NFL in that category.

608
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 1: If you want to blame it on the media, if

609
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 1: that's the catalyst for you to actually do something about

610
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 1: it because you're sick of hearing about it from the

611
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 1: media pencil next, then okay, great, If if that's the

612
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 1: way you're going to frame it, and that's motivational enough,

613
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 1: whatever it takes, you know, we'll take our game check,

614
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 1: you know, next Monday. If that, indeed is the difference

615
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 1: the media and the prospect of us asking that question

616
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 1: all over again. Yeah, and even though it's a new season,

617
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 1: you still haven't went at home this season with plenty

618
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 1: of opportunities and winnable games. So even though it does

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00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 1: go back how many how manies have been eight games

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00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 1: now they've lost it since fim Stadium the last the

621
00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 1: last home win was well, by the time they played

622
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 1: the next the next next game, it'll be a full

623
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 1: calendar year by the time they play the next game, well,

624
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 1: maybe a couple day shy and it was Houston. Yeah,

625
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 1: and they got down five nothing then scored thirty one

626
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 1: on anything. It's like less than a week of a

627
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,479
Speaker 1: full calendar year when they play the stats from their

628
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 1: last home win. So look, yeah, and if you want

629
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 1: to get the best out of the Arizona Cardinals, you

630
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 1: know what you do, road trip to Seattle, that's where

631
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 1: you get the best out of the Arizona Cardinals. Or

632
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,479
Speaker 1: they've won five of the last seven, and they're just

633
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 1: something about Seattle that it brings out the best in

634
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 1: the Cardinals, US against the world, US against the twelves.

635
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 1: And now I don't know what to make of the Seahawks.

636
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:39,239
Speaker 1: You just need the Cardinals to win so you can

637
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 1: call them the last play Seahawks again, please please, because

638
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, Geno Smith the right now, we're

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Speaker 1: going to be calling him the NFL comeback Player of

640
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 1: the Year by a landslide. At this rate, I mean, here,

641
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 1: are you kidding me? He's two weeks removed from winning

642
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 1: NFC Offensive Player of the Week. The last time he

643
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 1: won that an Offensive Player of the Week award, it

644
00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 1: was in twenty thirteen. Think of about that. The guy

645
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 1: was dormant for nearly a decade. I mean, he's like

646
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 1: a Grizzly barriers in hibernation for like a decade, and

647
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 1: he wakes up and he's throwing dimes. Where's where's the

648
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 1: stat on this last game? You realize going into the

649
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 1: last game they lost at New Orleans, he was leading

650
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 1: the NFL on completion percentage Gino Smith. And then he

651
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 1: goes out there and he threw three touchdown passes, a

652
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 1: fifty yarder to DK metcalf a thirty five and forty

653
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 1: yard to Tyler Lockett. And I don't know if you

654
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 1: saw the highlights, these were absolute seeds. They were right

655
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 1: on the money in traffic, in coverage. I mean, these

656
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 1: aren't cheap touchdown passes. I don't know what's going on.

657
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 1: He's take it for what you will, but he's the

658
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 1: highest graded quarterback in Pro Football Focus. Seattle know something

659
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 1: nobody else knew. Well, I've already thought that, maybe not

660
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 1: so much about Gino Smith, but definitely about Russell Wilson

661
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:04,479
Speaker 1: and in terms of cost benefit analysis. But I do

662
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 1: think that, you know, Gino's feeling himself a little bit,

663
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 1: and rightfully so. He's playing a great He's having a

664
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 1: great year and it'll be interesting to see how that goes. Now,

665
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 1: Rashad Penny, their best running back, just suffered a season

666
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 1: ending ankle injury, and so can you, you know, get

667
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 1: Gino Smith in positions where he's going to struggle a

668
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 1: little bit because he doesn't have as much of a

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00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 1: running game. I'll be very interested to see how that

670
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:32,959
Speaker 1: plays out and how it goes. I mean, clearly, the

671
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 1: Seahawks still have two great receivers and Lockett and Metcalf,

672
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 1: and you know how that kind of goes is how

673
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 1: this game is going to go. And I'm fascinated. And

674
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 1: the Seahawks defense is nothing to write home about. No,

675
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 1: if this offense is going to get better and get

676
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 1: better in the first quarter, you absolutely. I mean, at

677
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 1: least the Panthers, who aren't a very good team, I

678
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 1: think their defense is okay, the Seahawks don't have that

679
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 1: kind of defense. Can you can you make something out

680
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 1: of that? So the Seahawks defense is allowed twenty seven

681
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 1: points or more four times in five games, and thirty

682
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 1: nine points or more twice, including forty five to the

683
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 1: Lions in a forty eight forty five barnburner win by

684
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 1: Seattle two weeks ago where they didn't punt they want

685
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 1: like touchdown, touchdown, fuel goal, touchdown, field goal, fuel goal,

686
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 1: miss touchdown touchdown is just stupid how effective they were

687
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 1: against that Lions defense. And the Rashad Penny is a

688
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 1: good point because remember the last time you saw the Seahawks,

689
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 1: it was Week eighteen, and he ran for one hundred

690
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 1: and ninety yards twenty three carries for a buck ninety

691
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 1: against that Cardinals defense and they lost a shot at

692
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 1: the division title and a home playoff game, and a

693
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 1: big reason why it was Rashad Penny. And you know what,

694
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 1: hopefully that allows this defense to take advantage of the

695
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 1: fact that they're not going to have Penny, I think,

696
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Speaker 1: especially because I think the Cardinals have done a good

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00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 1: job at stopping the run, especially not having Richard Lawrence

698
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,959
Speaker 1: who's been out after having surgery with a hand injury.

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00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 1: Is that maybe if you have to worry a little

700
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 1: bit less about their running game and makes the defense

701
00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 1: makes their jobs a little bit easier knowing you're going

702
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 1: to have to focus on DK Metcalf and Tyler Locket

703
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 1: and that's going to be their game plan. I mean,

704
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:08,320
Speaker 1: the whole Geno Smith thing, you know, and you mentioned

705
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 1: the cost benefit analysis. Think about it. They trade away Russell,

706
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,720
Speaker 1: they got two first round picks, two second round picks,

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00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,320
Speaker 1: they got Noah Fant, they got their backup quarterback and

708
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:20,400
Speaker 1: Drew Locke on que Danny Mizzoo m i Z. And

709
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 1: in addition to that, they're only paying Gino Smith. I

710
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 1: believe four million dollars this year. It was dirt cheap.

711
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 1: So yeah, the return on investment has been staggering at

712
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 1: this point for the Seahawks. And we'll see, you know.

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00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 1: I mean, they did lose their big defensive tackle, Al

714
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 1: Woods in that game against New Orleans. They lost their

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00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,839
Speaker 1: right guard, Gabe Jackson. We'll see what their status is

716
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 1: going forward, and then you know they Pete Carroll was

717
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 1: certifiably distraught after last year. Remember their Cardinals went up

718
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,319
Speaker 1: there with Colt McCoy and they beat him and coach

719
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 1: double rainbow. After the game, he was man, he was distraught.

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00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 1: He couldn't believe it. The twelves were booing the Seahawks

721
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:00,919
Speaker 1: and Russell Wilson. That's when I personally knew it was over.

722
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 1: Oh my at the fan base is booing Russell Wilson

723
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:05,319
Speaker 1: at this point, and the home team they're gonna make

724
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 1: it change. So here's my question, Paul, because I know

725
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:10,799
Speaker 1: that these kinds of things impact you, perhaps more than

726
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 1: most people. There's conversation that they might have to change

727
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 1: the game time because of the of a conflict with

728
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 1: the Mariners playoff game, and I'm gonna have to call Roger,

729
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 1: And I'm just wondering it would be what flexed. I

730
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 1: don't think it would be. From the report that I

731
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 1: saw was there's conversations going on whether it could be moved.

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00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 1: Somebody told me, I didn't look this up yet. Somebody

733
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:35,800
Speaker 1: told me the Mariners game would be one o'clock local,

734
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 1: which is supposed to be the kickoff time. So you're

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00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 1: either going to have to go later or you're which

736
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:45,239
Speaker 1: is unlikely with Sunday night football, I would think, Or

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00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 1: do you have a real ten o'clock am? Wow? Is

738
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:51,799
Speaker 1: this a thing that they just decide, Oh, we've got

739
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 1: playoff baseball, so we're gonna move the game. You been

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00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 1: a Seattle Actually no, I haven't. Okay, there's no humanly

741
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 1: way you have two games on at the same time

742
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,240
Speaker 1: and make that work down there. There's there's barely enough

743
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:05,399
Speaker 1: store to each other. There's barely enough room for one

744
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 1: game down there for all the people I can't imagine playing.

745
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 1: Oh no, this isn't like, hey, we want to make

746
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 1: sure everybody can watch it on TV. No, this is

747
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:18,359
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't follow baseball. I mean they

748
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 1: might have to tell you angersan No, I'm just checking.

749
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:22,880
Speaker 1: How could I be a fan of them? I follow

750
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 1: baseball enough to know that they stank. I think one

751
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:31,320
Speaker 1: of those baseball fans, fair Weather fans, fans of is

752
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 1: too much to describe how I follow baseball. Obviously, the

753
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 1: Seahawks are gonna have to forfeit, so we'll have to

754
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 1: see about that. Um No, yeah, I'd rather go early. Absolutely,

755
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:44,919
Speaker 1: let's go early. The thing is that Cardinals just changed

756
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 1: their practice times. Well, see, as of up until two

757
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,320
Speaker 1: weeks ago, they were practicing earlier every single day, and

758
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 1: they'd be more equipped. The whole body clock thing. Well,

759
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:55,319
Speaker 1: here's the other thing too. I don't think there's any

760
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 1: way they move it late because they got a Thursday

761
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 1: game next week. You're not playing a night game or

762
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 1: a four o'clock game, that's right. I just don't see

763
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 1: how that happens. Whereas if you move it earlier, you

764
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 1: actually buy your team an extra three hours of recovery time.

765
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 1: You three extra hours for you, Paul, So I mean,

766
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 1: is this automatic? Something's got to give. They can't have two.

767
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:24,240
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll said it in his press conference on Monday,

768
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 1: said there's already been to some discussions about potentially moving

769
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,319
Speaker 1: kickoff time. That's that's all I was. I didn't mean

770
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 1: to scare you. Paul okay, Well, I mean, you know,

771
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:34,840
Speaker 1: obviously the biggest consideration. And if you want me to

772
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 1: call Roger Goodell, I will. He did call me Paul

773
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:39,439
Speaker 1: Pigskin less than a year ago in a MCN event.

774
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 1: So you know, we got that whole symbiotic thing going

775
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:43,879
Speaker 1: around here. But I know you guys have your big

776
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 1: night planned out, you know, Jim Almahundro, you know, out

777
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 1: on the Seattle town on Saturday night and you need

778
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 1: you guys personally need speaking recovery to speaking of recovery

779
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 1: time needed. Did we kick him out it's at earlier

780
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 1: kickoff time? That would really impact? Um, I think those

781
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 1: among us here in studio the most. Forget about the

782
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:07,280
Speaker 1: players in the locker room. You guys, I already know Danny.

783
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:11,799
Speaker 1: I know Danny can operate in a lot of different ways. Heck,

784
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 1: yeah she can. I like that compliment. She's already proven that.

785
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 1: So um, you know it's that you're just saying that

786
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 1: I'm professional, That's what That's what you're saying. True, I'm

787
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 1: saying you're absolutely professional. Thanks? Is there a segue there?

788
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:28,840
Speaker 1: To the comeback of Antonio Hamilton. Is there a segue

789
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 1: in there? I'm trying to figure out how to get

790
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:34,359
Speaker 1: to Antonio Hamilton. There was about a half hour press

791
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 1: commerce really good. It's pretty gripping. Yeah, it really was.

792
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 1: For a lot of different reasons. Eloquent man. Yeah, I

793
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 1: mean it's um. You can see why he's defied the

794
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 1: odds and he's made the NFL, you know, and when

795
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 1: he keeps football in perspective, when he talks about his

796
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 1: family and his health and and the you know, the

797
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 1: props he gave to his wife repeatedly and deservedly, so

798
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 1: everything at seven and a half months pregnant, to take

799
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:02,839
Speaker 1: care of him when he couldn't walk, and get him

800
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 1: to the bathroom and change his wounds and you know,

801
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:08,800
Speaker 1: second degree burn. I mean I said this, I was

802
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 1: on with Wolf earlier and I said, you know, my

803
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:13,400
Speaker 1: mom for thirty years was an r N and she

804
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 1: worked in big city emergency rooms, and she said the

805
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:18,720
Speaker 1: one area she could never handle were the burn units.

806
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 1: And so for his wife to actually dress those wounds

807
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:25,239
Speaker 1: and so forth, and for him to defy the odds himself, well,

808
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 1: the game a two or three month timetable and he

809
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 1: came back in five weeks or something like that, really

810
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 1: back on the practice field in five weeks. So it's

811
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:36,320
Speaker 1: pretty amazing or remarkable. The Antonio Hamilton story, which for

812
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 1: those who aren't familiar, go ahead, what would he tell us?

813
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 1: He told well, first of all, before we talked about it,

814
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 1: highly recommend that you go to the Arizona Cardinals official

815
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 1: website or YouTube channel to go listen to it and

816
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 1: its attirety because it was fantastic. Antonio Hamilton late in

817
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:57,880
Speaker 1: the preseason, was routinely getting dinner ready. He was about

818
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,400
Speaker 1: to cook some shrimp and he had grease in a

819
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 1: new pot and it caught on fire. Was a grease fire,

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00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 1: and he had his two young daughters who are aged

821
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:08,240
Speaker 1: five and two in the kitchen, and so grease fires

822
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 1: are difficult to put out. So he was trying to

823
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 1: put it out and basically went to grab the pot

824
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 1: to put it outside, and in doing so, got grease

825
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 1: on his face, which led him to dropping the pot.

826
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Speaker 1: So then he got yeah, so he burned his feet,

827
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 1: but didn't even realize because he said his shorts caught

828
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 1: on fire, and just hearing him talk about how he

829
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 1: was coming off a great camp was being named the

830
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 1: starting cornerback opposite of Buyer Murphy, and in literally thirty

831
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:33,880
Speaker 1: seconds that changed, and it could have been so much

832
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:36,359
Speaker 1: worse than that. He just kept using the word gratitude

833
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:39,400
Speaker 1: and that he had shifted his perspective that he was

834
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:41,800
Speaker 1: looking at, that he had gone through this for a reason,

835
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:45,240
Speaker 1: and he kept touching on his faith and the people

836
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 1: that he was talking to other burn victims. Is what

837
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:51,840
Speaker 1: I took it from of throughout the treatment process and

838
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 1: talking to different people and how he could use this

839
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 1: as motivation and why he was meant to go through this,

840
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 1: and so the fact that he, with a lot of

841
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:05,320
Speaker 1: help from his wife, has been able to recover. We learned,

842
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 1: you know, last week was his first week of practice,

843
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 1: and we learned that he had only had you know,

844
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:13,320
Speaker 1: twenty minute spurts of twenty minute workouts maybe three times,

845
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 1: and the game was really the first workout. So now

846
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 1: it makes sense when you go and you see the

847
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 1: photos before the game and even after the game, the

848
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 1: emotion on his face when he is running onto the

849
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,439
Speaker 1: field and he is on his knees and his hands

850
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 1: are in the prayer motion looking up before the game

851
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:30,359
Speaker 1: and just understanding that it took a lot for him

852
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 1: to get back onto the field. Very very inspiring. He

853
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 1: spoke very eloquently, highly recommend going and listening to that

854
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:40,839
Speaker 1: full press conference. Yeah, with two young daughters as well

855
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 1: in the house that he was trying to get the

856
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 1: pot like outside and trying, you know, telling the girls

857
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 1: get out of the kitchen and family room area, and

858
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:52,279
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden it drops and oh my gosh, yeah,

859
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 1: it could have been so much worse. Yeah, second degree burns,

860
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:56,800
Speaker 1: he said. I think a few few spots were a

861
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,360
Speaker 1: third degree, but not to the point of where you

862
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 1: might need like sin graph or something of that nature.

863
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 1: So very yeah, he just kept using the word gratitude.

864
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 1: So okay, you know, look, Byron Murphy, I don't know

865
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 1: what the adjustment wants to anybody actually find out, and

866
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask him, and it was totally unappropriate

867
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 1: to ask a football question during that press cards. I

868
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:17,360
Speaker 1: really wanted to know what was the adjustment on A. J.

869
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:19,879
Speaker 1: Brown because he had three catches on the first drive

870
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 1: and he was a problem and then all of a

871
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 1: sudden he had one target the rest of the game. Yeah,

872
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 1: that was amazing, really, I mean, we need to give

873
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 1: props advanced Joseph for the job that he has done

874
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 1: this season on many levels. And you know, guys, some

875
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 1: of these stars are not getting the kind of stats

876
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 1: against this defense. And obviously it hasn't been perfect all

877
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 1: the time, and he's had to work around some personnel

878
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 1: issues and different things. But I mean, Cooper Cup didn't

879
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 1: go off. Christian McCaffrey, Davante Adams. I mean, there's they're

880
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:55,320
Speaker 1: doing something. They're doing something right now. The Slim Reaper

881
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 1: was a problem at times. Davante Smith. I just say

882
00:42:57,680 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 1: that because I like their nickname. But yeah, but they're

883
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 1: all bubble screen yeah, down the field, and you know,

884
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 1: are they getting more blockers out in front of these

885
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 1: bubble screens? Is that the difference between the Eagles bubble

886
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 1: screens and the Cardinals bubble screens? I mean, somebody look

887
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 1: at the film and let me know, because if you're

888
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,400
Speaker 1: not going to steal the QB sneak, Darren, then can

889
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 1: we steal some of that from from from whatever? I'm

890
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 1: okay with that. I mean, I saw the Eagles running

891
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:23,239
Speaker 1: so many of the same plays that I felt like

892
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:27,359
Speaker 1: the Cardinals normally run. So obviously somebody's doing it right.

893
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 1: So maybe it isn't. Again, maybe it isn't just the plays,

894
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 1: but I'll just leave you with this my final thought.

895
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:34,400
Speaker 1: Feel a lot better about the cornerback room, especially as

896
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 1: Antonio Hamilton gets back into form, because didn't he during

897
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 1: the course of that press garments actually call himself the

898
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:42,320
Speaker 1: best corner in camp. I think he did. If you

899
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 1: go back, he called himself the best card cave. It's

900
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:48,320
Speaker 1: probably decent. He also he also said if you go

901
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:51,360
Speaker 1: look at the film from the Eagles game, you wouldn't

902
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:53,320
Speaker 1: He basically said, you wouldn't have known that I was

903
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 1: out for six weeks. That's good. What do you need

904
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 1: first and foremost as a corner confidence? Supreme confidence. So

905
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 1: that's fine with me. I have no problem with that.

906
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:03,799
Speaker 1: But if you have Byron Murphy and Marco Wilson's been

907
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:06,759
Speaker 1: playing better according to the coaches than Antonio Hamilton's, okay,

908
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 1: you feel decent about that. Where are we on the

909
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:13,840
Speaker 1: edge rusher and when is the trade deadline? And is

910
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 1: it feasible, plausible, doable for Steve Kind to make a

911
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 1: deal with some team that might be out of the hunt.

912
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 1: It might be willing to take a low round pick

913
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 1: in return for an edge rusher, a rent a rusher

914
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 1: that you can use the rest of the year. You know,

915
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 1: it has been interesting through these first five games of

916
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 1: feeling as comfortable as I do at least and pretty

917
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 1: much every other position of the defense, because when we

918
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 1: entered the season, it was your defense might be okay,

919
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 1: you just need them to do enough and then have

920
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 1: your offense really take off. But it's been the defense

921
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 1: that's been playing well and has improved every game. And

922
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 1: you're looking at the DBS talking about those cornerbacks, Buddha Baker,

923
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:54,320
Speaker 1: Jalen Thompson again continuing to play well, saving Collins. I

924
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 1: feel like it has learked a lot more consistent this year.

925
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:00,040
Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons has been getting more snaps. He's probably the

926
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:01,839
Speaker 1: only one who might be glad that we keep talking

927
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 1: about these slow starts offensively and not winning at home,

928
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 1: because it's taken away from talking about how he his

929
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 1: snapcats went down earlier in the season. And again, I

930
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 1: feel like this team has done a better job at

931
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 1: stopping the run. So it still really is the edge rusher.

932
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 1: So I would go ahead, and I'm sorry, I just

933
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 1: cut you right. That often you did, because they show

934
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 1: a picture of Michael Parsons over here. I would like

935
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 1: to see them make a move for an edge rusher,

936
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:32,880
Speaker 1: even though that when you look at the numbers and

937
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 1: vance Joseph has talked about this, they might be winning

938
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 1: their pass rush win rate, but how effective are they

939
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 1: at disrupting the quarterback consistently? Well, that's what I was

940
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:45,359
Speaker 1: going to say. I think they actually disrupted Jalen Hurts

941
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 1: a lot this weekend, didn't you. Yes, And I know

942
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:51,799
Speaker 1: that it is more than just sacks, but I feel

943
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 1: like that's maybe what this defense is. They're still forcing turnovers.

944
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 1: I just feel like there could be more in that

945
00:45:57,680 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 1: area than any other part of the defense. So I

946
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 1: would be okay if they if they made the right

947
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 1: kind of trade. When is the deadline? November first? It's

948
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:08,400
Speaker 1: early November, really early November, that first week in November.

949
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 1: So I don't know, is there anybody out there? I know,

950
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 1: you know Melvin Ingram, you know, as he was a

951
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:16,840
Speaker 1: free agent veteran guy in the all season. He's actually

952
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:18,400
Speaker 1: had a real good start to the season. There, but

953
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 1: a couple of guys Jerry Hughes November first, Okay, I

954
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:23,360
Speaker 1: mean There've been a couple of guys, you know Texas

955
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 1: right the Houston. You know, he had a good start

956
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 1: of the season. The problem is is those guys were available,

957
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:30,279
Speaker 1: and they didn't have any interest in them when they

958
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 1: were free agents. So why would they spend a draft

959
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 1: pick on him? No, no, no, I'm not saying go

960
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 1: after him now. I'm just saying you could have had

961
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 1: those kind of guys in the off season. And so

962
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:41,799
Speaker 1: you know, are you kicking yourself now that you didn't

963
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:44,400
Speaker 1: go after a guy like that in the off season,

964
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:49,840
Speaker 1: or to play Devil's advocate to myself, Um, do you

965
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 1: feel like this defense is doing well enough to or

966
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 1: you don't have to make a trade and you can

967
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 1: get by this year and that's something you put more

968
00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:01,400
Speaker 1: money into next season? Well, I would have to. I

969
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:03,359
Speaker 1: kind of want them to see where they are. I mean,

970
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 1: I think the defense is playing pretty well. Your other

971
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 1: issue with going after an edge rusher is like who

972
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 1: who are they replacing on the thing? And I'm not

973
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 1: saying you wouldn't get somebody who's more effective now, but

974
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:16,760
Speaker 1: who are you cutting? Like they just elevated Jesse Looketta

975
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 1: because somebody wanted to sign them off the practice squad,

976
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:22,759
Speaker 1: and so like you are, you're going to take the

977
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 1: chance to cut him. You're not cut cutting my j Sanders,

978
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 1: You're not. I mean, I guess you could cut Devon

979
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:32,920
Speaker 1: Kennard perhaps, or you know, who are you replacing? You know?

980
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 1: I mean, look, you know you're carrying seven outside linebackers.

981
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 1: Why not eg at this point? You know whatever, It's

982
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 1: like a Baker's doesn't just throw another one in there?

983
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 1: Who's gonna notice? I mean, you are carrying a lot

984
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 1: outside line That's why I'm saying someone you know, it

985
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:48,839
Speaker 1: would have to be a one for one. Yeah, well,

986
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 1: you know in terms of I mean you're also carrying

987
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 1: are you still carrying six inside linebackers? Because if Nick

988
00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 1: Vigil gets back from the hamstring and then you know,

989
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 1: there could be a casualty there and maybe someone I mean,

990
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 1: I'll do what is isa, I'll just throw this out there.

991
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 1: I mean, if you cut a ben Nieman, is he

992
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 1: getting scooped up immediately? Or could you send him to

993
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:13,720
Speaker 1: the practice squad? Allah, Devon Kannard or a Max Williams

994
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 1: ben Nieman just played forty five? Nick Midgel comes back?

995
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 1: Is he an I are by the way, did they

996
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 1: put him on Keep Up Paul strike that on ir

997
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, I guess if we're going to talk

998
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 1: about I are their news is wide receiver Antoine Wesley

999
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:35,879
Speaker 1: the setback that we were told he had last week

1000
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:38,720
Speaker 1: his first week of practice after being designated to return

1001
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 1: because of a hip and groin injury. That setback was

1002
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 1: in fact season ending well, and with all due respect

1003
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 1: to Cliffs saying it was a setback, the report by

1004
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 1: a national reporter, Aaron Wilson was that he tore his quadricep, which, oh,

1005
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 1: that's not a setback, that's a different injury. Wow, sounds

1006
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 1: really good. You don't hear that too often? And I didn't.

1007
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:00,320
Speaker 1: Did you see? I didn't see him out on the

1008
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:02,319
Speaker 1: field on Sunday at the game, and usually he's out there,

1009
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:05,799
Speaker 1: did you see tweets? Did not see him any sort

1010
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 1: of you know, recovery or if surgery's eat anything like that,

1011
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 1: if maybe that's already happened, Yeah, that's uh. And then

1012
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 1: we got to find out about Rodney Hudson as well.

1013
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 1: He was down there, but he was in sweats. So

1014
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 1: how a long term is Rodney Hudson? How long term

1015
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:23,239
Speaker 1: is Matt Prator these are two veterans you would love

1016
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 1: to get back sooner than later. Prador's thirty eight. So

1017
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 1: what does that mean exactly, and what's the severity of

1018
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:32,759
Speaker 1: the injury and what's the realistic recovery time? If you're

1019
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 1: a kicker when he's dealing with a hip, is that

1020
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 1: the official right hip? Right hip? So? Um, okay, we'll

1021
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:41,879
Speaker 1: see in Seattle's not an easy place to kick either,

1022
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 1: as everyone knows, with the cross winds and everything else.

1023
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:47,840
Speaker 1: Have we looked at the weather? I've not. I refused

1024
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:49,320
Speaker 1: to look at the weather till the very end of

1025
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 1: the week. Danny, please do not do so, because it

1026
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 1: really does make you fast and it makes for bad

1027
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:57,240
Speaker 1: karma when you look on the weather. When we recorded

1028
00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:59,440
Speaker 1: our podcast before the Carolina game, we thought, for sure

1029
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:01,279
Speaker 1: you're gonna get drenched. And by the time it came

1030
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 1: you were fine. And what did I say, wait till

1031
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 1: the end of the week, because the margin of aaron

1032
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:08,320
Speaker 1: these meteorologists early in the week, seven days out. But

1033
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 1: here here's the one problem with that, Paul. If we

1034
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:12,359
Speaker 1: wait till the end of the week, we can't give

1035
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:18,359
Speaker 1: you podcast. Wow twice Darren Justin Pugh just entered into

1036
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:24,240
Speaker 1: the Cardinals underground right here, dropping, just dropping and Kyler

1037
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 1: you know, so, yeah, if anybody asked you on the street,

1038
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 1: what does Darren Urban having common with Justin Pugh, Kyler

1039
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 1: Murray and DJ Humphrey's profanity would be the answer. That

1040
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:41,279
Speaker 1: would be the answer. Paycheck So on that one. Well, Darren,

1041
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:42,759
Speaker 1: if you'd just come up with an answer to the

1042
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:45,600
Speaker 1: first quarter wolf, you would get moved to the other side.

1043
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 1: Nobody seems to have an answer, so I can you

1044
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:50,719
Speaker 1: can think of that? Right? You're rich? Yeah? What's the

1045
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:52,400
Speaker 1: story about the guy at Friedo Lay? And I'll leave

1046
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 1: you with this, but probably wasn't the guy at Friedo La.

1047
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 1: And they're making a movie out of this supposedly. Do

1048
00:50:57,239 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 1: you hear the story now? Yeah? Well, the CEO Fredo

1049
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:03,479
Speaker 1: called an all company meeting, all company meeting, everybody, every

1050
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 1: level and there and he said, I think it was

1051
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:07,400
Speaker 1: over a zoom or whatever. He said, anybody who has

1052
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:10,800
Speaker 1: an idea, here's my email. And this guy was a janitor,

1053
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 1: I believe, and he submitted the idea for the Flaming

1054
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 1: Hot Cheetos my hero because as an employee, he would

1055
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 1: get the plane to read Cheetos and they take him

1056
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 1: home and they would add all the hot sauce and

1057
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:25,799
Speaker 1: they make their own concoction, and he submitted a bag

1058
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:28,200
Speaker 1: of what they make at home. That thing is like

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Speaker 1: a billion dollar idea literally large part because of me.

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Speaker 1: And they made that. They made that guy a VP

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Speaker 1: and gave him his corner office in his company car

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Speaker 1: and he makes big money, big, big money. Right now.

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Speaker 1: The CEO came through on his promise. Wow, I did

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Speaker 1: not know that story. I'm inspired, ye, Paul and Danny,

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Speaker 1: You'll be happy to know that the official as of

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Speaker 1: recording here, the official forecast for Seattle on Sunday is

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Speaker 1: seventy five and sonny with a three percent chance of percipplication.

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Speaker 1: And the best part is just delivered that like the

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Speaker 1: radio weather by voice, he's got weather on the nines here.

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Speaker 1: So does that mean I still have to pack my

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Speaker 1: rain gear because if I don't, it's going to rain.

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Speaker 1: As if your suitcase is as heavy as it was

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Speaker 1: on the plane last whoa, whoa, whoa. I had to

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Speaker 1: pack my rain boots and case it decided to wait

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Speaker 1: seven pounds or were they rainboots or fly fishing boots?

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Speaker 1: Are you standing out in the middle of the Rogue River, like, wait,

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Speaker 1: they're pretty tall. Yeah, they're pretty tall rain boots. It's

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Speaker 1: Wolf who picks up and takes down my suitcase, so

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Speaker 1: you can't excuse me the last trip, I was the

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Speaker 1: one who put it up. He took it down. I

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Speaker 1: put it up. Thank you for that, Darren. Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: I did switch my seat with you, so it was

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Speaker 1: at least you can do. I will also give you that. Actually,

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Speaker 1: what I've learned on this podcast, Danny is very superstitious.

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Speaker 1: Closet superstitious? Am I? Yes, I mean you know the

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Speaker 1: three repeatedly you've you've recited karma or superstition or you know,

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Speaker 1: trying not to. I think maybe a little speaking of

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Speaker 1: any office fans, I'm a little stitious, not superstitious. Anger

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Speaker 1: the gods of karma. So there you go, a lot

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Speaker 1: of anger. That's the theme. Words you like, Sesame Street

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Speaker 1: were brought to you by the word anger. Here in

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