WEBVTT - Was It a Love Connection For Kelly and Pascal??

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to I Do Part two. I am one

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<v Speaker 1>of your celebrity mentors, Jennifer Fessler. You know me from

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast I co host to Jersey Jays with Jackie

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<v Speaker 1>Goldschneider and from the Real Housewives of New Jersey. I

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<v Speaker 1>am so excited because tonight I am joined by fellow housewife,

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<v Speaker 1>well by housewife, I'm not a house anyway, and celebrity

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<v Speaker 1>mentor Kelly ben Simone, and we are coming to you

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<v Speaker 1>from Live in the Vineyard in Napa Valley, California. Hi, Kel, Hi,

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<v Speaker 1>I think my voice just cracked a little.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, because we've had a long Weekay, it's been

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<v Speaker 2>a day. Well, you and I both came from Newark.

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<v Speaker 1>Right to I came from Kennedy. Oh you did, Oh

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<v Speaker 1>beckew Delta.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>So we both came from New York today. Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's a long day.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a but how unbelievably gorgeous is it here?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, I've never been in weather. Just the weather.

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<v Speaker 1>It is so beautiful. Napa is gorgeous.

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<v Speaker 3>Just don't take a taxi.

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<v Speaker 2>I got off, I get out of the airport and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, oh, I'm just going to take a taxi.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, a taxi, you didn't take an uber?

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, no, I'm I live in New York,

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<v Speaker 2>Like we take taxis literally four hundred dollars later, so

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<v Speaker 2>don't do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Much or was not that much less, but also we

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<v Speaker 1>just don't take the uber. Listen, thank you, iHeart.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Kelly, So I we are going to jump right

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<v Speaker 1>in because I feel like the I Do listeners have

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<v Speaker 1>been on this journey with you and having to do

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<v Speaker 1>with your dating life. Yes, so let me just give you,

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<v Speaker 1>guys first, a little bit of the backstory. So, Kelly,

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<v Speaker 1>you when was it back a little ways? You played

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<v Speaker 1>the dating game? Yes, our friend Kelly here is single

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<v Speaker 1>and ready to mingle. And you played the dating game

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<v Speaker 1>on I Do Part two with three different men. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and you chose one from the Golden Bachelor. Correct, you chose.

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<v Speaker 2>They already have Three of the guys on the dating

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<v Speaker 2>game were from the Golden Bachelor.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay, and I chose one of them. Okay, So

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<v Speaker 1>you chose one of them.

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<v Speaker 2>I chose him because he can make salmon at a

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<v Speaker 2>certain temperature.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, apparably really like salmon. Or so you gotta

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<v Speaker 1>think for sam. I like, but I.

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<v Speaker 2>Also like men that cook. Okay, Kelly, I can make food.

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<v Speaker 2>I can make food, but I don't I don't like to.

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<v Speaker 1>There was something about the I don't like to cue on.

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<v Speaker 3>I love when a man makes me food.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, But it didn't work out. His his proficiency in

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<v Speaker 1>salmon cooking was not enough because.

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<v Speaker 2>Well it wasn't enough because then he started texting me

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<v Speaker 2>these telendovellas about what he's doing, how kind of pocket

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<v Speaker 2>square he's wearing. I'm like, have you met me before

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<v Speaker 2>you read?

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<v Speaker 1>Right?

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<v Speaker 3>My name is Kelly, how are you nice to see you?

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<v Speaker 1>Where are you from? Right?

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<v Speaker 2>And he jumped he jumped in and was just like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to be a superstar.

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<v Speaker 3>And this was happening, and then.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to be a superstar like he was.

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<v Speaker 2>He was going to be a he was going to

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<v Speaker 2>be on some television show. I was like, that's great.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought you were a doctor. That kind of turned

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<v Speaker 2>me off. And so then it was so wild because

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, all of a sudden, like he's texting me

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<v Speaker 2>and he's like, I have I can't go to I

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<v Speaker 2>can't come meet you at iHeart because I'm meeting this

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<v Speaker 2>girl and this is her name, and I'm like okay,

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<v Speaker 2>and I said, did I miss something? That was my Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't say I literally just read it and I said,

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<v Speaker 2>did I miss something? And then he went into a

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<v Speaker 2>whole other thing about why he couldn't go on the

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<v Speaker 2>date with me or whatever, why we couldn't walk the carpet.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>And I got to walk the carpet with Gary, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's where you and I became yes.

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<v Speaker 1>But hold on a second, hold on. So Gary was

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<v Speaker 1>Bachelor number whatever two three. I was gonna pick Gary,

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<v Speaker 1>but you didn't Gary. I wanted to pick Gary. I

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<v Speaker 1>really really want Gary's also from the Golden Bachelor.

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<v Speaker 3>He is also from the Golden Battery. Also can cook

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<v Speaker 3>very well.

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<v Speaker 2>But the salmon really got me.

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<v Speaker 1>That was something about this, I have to be honest

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<v Speaker 1>with you. I listened to that episode, as I do

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<v Speaker 1>listen to all of I DO Part two episodes, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like listening to it and it was so I'm sorry, Kelly,

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<v Speaker 1>but like I was like, this is no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>no no. It was so awkward. My kids get so

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<v Speaker 1>pissed when.

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<v Speaker 3>I do that.

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<v Speaker 1>It was so kind of cringe no, I mean you

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<v Speaker 1>didn't feel like that.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I was having so much fun.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think one thing that's been really great about

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<v Speaker 2>being on I Do Part two is that I started

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<v Speaker 2>with therapy, and then every single time that we would film.

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<v Speaker 3>And be on the podcast and in the pod, I

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<v Speaker 3>was applying what I was learning.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that.

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<v Speaker 2>And so not only was I learning new you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a new not not a narrative people like it's not

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<v Speaker 2>a narrative, I was learning how to apply my new

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<v Speaker 2>tools with my in my tool belt for times when

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<v Speaker 2>I needed it. I was also learning when things were

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<v Speaker 2>triggering me from my past, like you know, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you and I have talked about this before about you know,

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<v Speaker 2>being wildly insecure and you know, having you know, men

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<v Speaker 2>not be exactly like not choosing good men, like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>being around men that were not not really good for me.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I've made this concerted effort to really open,

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<v Speaker 2>be more open, be more vulnerable, and be more respectful

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<v Speaker 2>of myself.

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<v Speaker 3>So I was like salmon for the wind right.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm saying, even with all of that, when I

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<v Speaker 1>thought of these because what you're saying is you are

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<v Speaker 1>more open, and you were more open because when I

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<v Speaker 1>listened to it, what I thought was none of these

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<v Speaker 1>three guys are for Kelly, absolutely not. And hel you're

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<v Speaker 1>a cool cat, and not that these I'm not trying

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<v Speaker 1>to say that these guys are not cool, but different

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<v Speaker 1>there they felt if.

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<v Speaker 3>You're making.

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<v Speaker 1>They are such nice guys. Listen, I'm not married to

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<v Speaker 1>a cool cat. Let's get real. My husband, Jeff Fesler

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<v Speaker 1>is there's nothing cool about him. Amazing, I agree, but

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<v Speaker 1>he's not cool. These guys, I don't know. I just

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<v Speaker 1>didn't see.

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<v Speaker 2>That's he is cool because you can take him anywhere

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<v Speaker 2>and he is like very very easy.

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<v Speaker 1>Again, these three guys anywhere too. But I'm saying, like

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<v Speaker 1>even their responses they were just a little cringe. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like they were a little come on, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. But you yes, I think that it's

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<v Speaker 1>great that you were open and you were like, doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 1>He likes salmon. I like salmon. This could work.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know what that I think Jen two, is

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<v Speaker 2>that that was That's one of the things that I

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<v Speaker 2>think is really important when you are dating, is that

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<v Speaker 2>not to date the person that you want, but to

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<v Speaker 2>start dating and be in the pool because you never

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<v Speaker 2>know who you're gonna meet.

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<v Speaker 1>And also, Kelly, you don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>That you know how that you know? It's like you

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<v Speaker 3>did there.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh my god, you could get a

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<v Speaker 2>kiss a couple of maion frogs and you meet the prince.

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<v Speaker 2>But some many times you don't know that the prince

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<v Speaker 2>is the frog. You don't know that, Kelly, and all.

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<v Speaker 1>You know by the way you're on nd but you're

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<v Speaker 1>not in it.

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<v Speaker 2>You're gonna get I mean what I'm gonna sit in

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<v Speaker 2>I sit at home my dating that being like this

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<v Speaker 2>guy's hot, this guy's not.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, listen to it, like physically engage with the smart

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<v Speaker 1>one because I was like, oh god, none of these

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<v Speaker 1>three kids, there's something wrong with them. But I'm just saying,

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<v Speaker 1>like none of these guys are for Kelly as I

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<v Speaker 1>was listening to it. But the truth is you're right,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's like great advice.

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<v Speaker 3>It's that you have to be in it.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to and write, you have to give it

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<v Speaker 1>some you have to like I used to say this,

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<v Speaker 1>you know how woman.

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<v Speaker 3>To you know what?

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<v Speaker 2>You know? It's like there's it's been interesting too because

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<v Speaker 2>I that one one person said to me, dating is

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<v Speaker 2>like a job.

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<v Speaker 3>And you have to treat it like a job.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, you know how like you're like and you go

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<v Speaker 2>to the gym and your hair is boned now and

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<v Speaker 2>you're ready to go and you're on your phone, calls

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<v Speaker 2>you your mo.

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<v Speaker 3>You have to do the same thing the day. I

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<v Speaker 3>want to be like dressed. You have to be ready

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<v Speaker 3>to do. You have to be well rested, you have

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<v Speaker 3>to have you have to like be so interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, going out to meet a guy if it were

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<v Speaker 1>me right now and I was single, even when I

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<v Speaker 1>was single in my twenties, I I, oh, I had

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<v Speaker 1>dates all the time because I always said yes, didn't

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<v Speaker 1>matter like if they were whatever it was because it

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<v Speaker 1>was just a drink or it was just ID never

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<v Speaker 1>made dinner dates and.

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<v Speaker 2>More often than not very easy going.

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<v Speaker 1>Right right, But I would be a very.

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<v Speaker 2>Woman nally you can like you can talk to like

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<v Speaker 2>wet paint. I mean, you are like very very I

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<v Speaker 2>I am very I'm I'm a very outgoing person, but

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<v Speaker 2>I'm also wildly insecure. So I present as outgoing, but

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<v Speaker 2>I am super super very very reserved and like like

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<v Speaker 2>literally like.

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<v Speaker 1>You opened yourself up though to these three guys that

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<v Speaker 1>I found completely cringe guys, I don't mean it like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I just mean a little bit. Yeah I do. But

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<v Speaker 1>but but if I if you're my best friend, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>telling you it doesn't matter. Kelly, pick one and let's

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<v Speaker 1>play it out. Let's see what happens. That's what they

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<v Speaker 1>were just on. You know what they were. They were

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<v Speaker 1>holding microphones in their hair. They were being recorded and

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<v Speaker 1>maybe they were awkward, but you did and you right.

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<v Speaker 3>So I did not see them.

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<v Speaker 2>So it was like the dating game, so I had

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<v Speaker 2>no idea, not so I couldn't make a judgment based

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<v Speaker 2>on physical I love.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, you're right, I'm wrong you. I'm glad of you.

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<v Speaker 3>No, you're not wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>They were, but like you did the right thing. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>glad that you picked when you went out, or you

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<v Speaker 1>didn't go out with him. He turns out that he

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<v Speaker 1>was cringey. And then you moved on to Gary, who

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<v Speaker 1>was very sweet, and you took two the iHeart Music Awards.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know, but it didn't obviously I don't. There's

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<v Speaker 1>there's no ring on your finger, or it's not going

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<v Speaker 1>to be. It doesn't sound like it was. But it

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<v Speaker 1>was so far I ever a date, but yes, and

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<v Speaker 1>it made me feel really good. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>And so after we left that night and I got

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<v Speaker 2>to meet you, and I was in a really good

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<v Speaker 2>mood and I had a lot of fun. And then

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<v Speaker 2>when I left and went back to New York, I

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<v Speaker 2>felt really good about myself. And that's the other thing

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<v Speaker 2>that's good about going out a lot of going on

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of different dates, is that because you you

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, you don't even know who these people are.

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<v Speaker 2>One guy said to me something that was really interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>He said, let's just go on a date, because the

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<v Speaker 2>worst thing that could happen is we could be really

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<v Speaker 2>good friends.

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<v Speaker 1>That's every that's I used to preach that. I'm just saying,

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<v Speaker 1>like maybe if there's not a connection, like maybe you

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<v Speaker 1>know someone, maybe I know someone, Right, that's how people

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<v Speaker 1>should look at day, Like it's just Pete, we're just

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<v Speaker 1>two people.

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<v Speaker 2>And I have done that before. I have gone in

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<v Speaker 2>to day and I'm thinking to myself, this guy's not

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<v Speaker 2>good for me. I'm gonna introduce him to my friend.

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<v Speaker 2>I've done that many times.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, Okay, so Gary, I don't I don't know why

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<v Speaker 1>he wasn't for you, but let's just I'm gonna s

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<v Speaker 1>so we love Gary we love Gary, but it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>a love connection. No, okay, but I love It's amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you got a d M from Let's take

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<v Speaker 1>it from here, Yes, so tell us about that.

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<v Speaker 2>So I had no idea who this was, and I

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<v Speaker 2>get a lot of dms.

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<v Speaker 1>I do.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to sit here and bullshit you guys.

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<v Speaker 2>I get a lot of d ms of people. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>they're for real, sometimes they're not. And so he was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm from Chicago, and like, no one ever comes off

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<v Speaker 2>and is like I'm from Chicago. I was like, wait,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, what.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you lot Why that's so unusual because I'm from Rockford.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's like, it's like that's close proximity.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like if someone says.

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<v Speaker 2>That I don't know, like Texas, yeah, Texas right there,

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<v Speaker 2>they're from you near your hometown or like but they

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<v Speaker 2>they went to college with you in Boston or something,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean. They were like, it's just

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<v Speaker 2>you know, just it just I never meet people that

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<v Speaker 2>are in my circle, and so it's nice to know

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<v Speaker 2>that there's someone there who kind of understands and that

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<v Speaker 2>has a baseline understanding, so we don't have to be like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>you know.

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<v Speaker 3>What's you know?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, what do you guys?

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<v Speaker 3>What do you guys eat?

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<v Speaker 2>In Illinois?

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<v Speaker 3>People people always ask me. I'm like, what do you mean.

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<v Speaker 2>When we eat like cheese? Obviously right joking, but people

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<v Speaker 2>ask me that all the time. So what do they

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<v Speaker 2>eat there? I'm like, food?

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<v Speaker 1>Like I never thought it to ask anyone from Chicago that.

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<v Speaker 2>Because you're a sophisticated woman, I'm talking about I'm talking

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<v Speaker 2>about guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, we have to talk about Pascal, right, so we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna What was interesting is that when he was saying

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<v Speaker 1>all those things is that he was talking about things

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<v Speaker 1>that made me feel comfortable.

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<v Speaker 3>He's talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>Illinois and he was like, oh, I'm a hairdresser, you

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<v Speaker 2>have beautiful hair.

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<v Speaker 3>He was talking.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I know that sounds weird, but I mean

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<v Speaker 2>it was also very nice.

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<v Speaker 3>Too nice.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, he was on this show and he

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<v Speaker 2>knew both Guy and Gary, who I I didn't. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know Guy, but I mean I did have some

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<v Speaker 2>I did read some of his texts, and then you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I obviously spent some time with Gary, who was so

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<v Speaker 2>lovely and so did you and so yeah, so there

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<v Speaker 2>were there was like a common denominated right.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, So he slid in I really hate that expression.

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<v Speaker 1>He slid in to your d MS and said, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>from Chicago. Great, So now you guys made the connection.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I didn't know who he was because you

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<v Speaker 1>didn't watch the Golden Bachelor, right right with Bachelrette.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, and I've watched The Bachelor for a thousand rights,

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<v Speaker 2>but that I hadn't watched the Golden Bachelor, okay, And

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<v Speaker 2>so I didn't know who he was, and you were

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<v Speaker 2>open as you were. He told me he was on

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<v Speaker 2>it and he was mentioning these people. So again like

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<v Speaker 2>there was like a was.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, so he wanted so he said, let's meet. And

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<v Speaker 1>then what you said, you called the producer said okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so here's this guy. Let's let's set it up. And

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<v Speaker 1>they said, why don't you guys meet?

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<v Speaker 2>I just was like, what is going on here? Is

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<v Speaker 2>this going to be like guy number two? Is he

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<v Speaker 2>just you just want to meet me because he you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like I'm on Housewives and he was on the Bachelor,

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<v Speaker 2>and he wants to like you know, you never you

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<v Speaker 2>don't know like I was talking about, you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>was just saying that like when I would go on dates.

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<v Speaker 2>I would think that people were like, oh, I want

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<v Speaker 2>to I want to date her because she's wild and crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>Because people would call me crazy. I'm from Scary Island.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not I'm the least crazy person. I'm like so grounded,

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<v Speaker 2>it's ridiculous. But they thought and then they were bored.

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<v Speaker 2>They're like, Oh, she's just really not crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>She just eats cheese.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just joking. She wants to want to sammy each cheese.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, that was one of those those are

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<v Speaker 2>the things that were happening. So to meet someone that

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<v Speaker 2>was you know, common, you know, the common denominator sounded

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<v Speaker 2>like really interesting and and I was.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, oh, maybe he's great. Right, So then.

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<v Speaker 1>Now here we are, now here we are now about

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<v Speaker 1>the producer said, let's do it in Napa, right.

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<v Speaker 2>So we had we talked over we were on a

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<v Speaker 2>podcast together, okay, and we spoke.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually know that I listened to and he was

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<v Speaker 1>very charming. He is very charming, very very charming.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I was not answering the questions correctly. He

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<v Speaker 2>was like they were like if you could go, and

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<v Speaker 2>and if you could go. Bob was like, if you

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<v Speaker 2>could go, you know, on date with Kelly, where would

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<v Speaker 2>you take her? And he said this very very nice,

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<v Speaker 2>this really nice date. And I was like, oh, I

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<v Speaker 2>would take you to Gibson's and show you my Playboy cover.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean I was making total jerk.

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<v Speaker 1>Well obviously not too much of a jerk because he

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<v Speaker 1>showed up NAPA, right.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I was just like, you know what, like

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<v Speaker 3>if it's hard.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a hard scenario when you're being asked these questions.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you asked those guys like if you were

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<v Speaker 1>a rooster and I was a chicken, what would be

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<v Speaker 1>your cockadile? I would have died? Like like I was like.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, but I was infusing the tools on my toolbout

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<v Speaker 2>because I'm spposed to be opening vulnerable and here I

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<v Speaker 2>was talking about my Playboy colver and like how you

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<v Speaker 2>should like look at it.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry, I'm a Kelly fan, so I'm going to say

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<v Speaker 1>that that's there's nothing wrong with that. Sorry. So now

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<v Speaker 1>you guys get to NAPA. You meet for the first time, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>right off the bat, what was your first impression?

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<v Speaker 3>Very attractive, very attractive, very fit.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes. By the way, guys, if you don't know Pascal

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<v Speaker 1>is French.

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<v Speaker 3>He is from Paris.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, he's from Paris.

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<v Speaker 4>He owns multiple salons in Chicago. Correct, and yes he's

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<v Speaker 4>a big businessman. Your husband ex husmand is French. Excuse me,

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<v Speaker 4>you were raising Illinois. Clue, there's a common thread common threads,

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<v Speaker 4>I should say. So you meet him, first impression, good

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<v Speaker 4>looking fit.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, okay, good looking infit?

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<v Speaker 2>And I met him and I was, I mean, I

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<v Speaker 2>met him this morning and I was in a bikini.

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<v Speaker 1>Literally, so that is the way to go.

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<v Speaker 2>I saw you and then I saw him. I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, seeing today in a bikini, it's been great.

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<v Speaker 1>If I were Kelly Bensman, I would definitely meet a

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<v Speaker 1>first date in a bikini. That'd be a smart move.

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<v Speaker 1>So just so you guys did, whether or not it

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<v Speaker 1>was the intention, it worked. So now we go.

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<v Speaker 3>We go all swad weird. She was on too and

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<v Speaker 3>a big robe.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think you saw that for it.

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<v Speaker 1>So we all so you saw him in your bikini

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<v Speaker 1>and then what then we all got into the sprinter van. Yes, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So now you guys are chit chatting in the sprinter van. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>we're all kind of chit chatting. Yes, we get to

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<v Speaker 1>the concert. You guys, we were not all sitting together,

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<v Speaker 1>So just tell me a little bit about what your

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<v Speaker 1>thoughts are. How'd you see?

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<v Speaker 2>So Deanna and I we know each other from another podcast,

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<v Speaker 2>and we we we hit.

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<v Speaker 3>It off really really well.

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<v Speaker 2>She was on She's a Beautiful, Beautiful Girl from Bachelor Nation.

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<v Speaker 2>She was on The Bachelor and the Bachelorette, And so

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<v Speaker 2>we were the three of us were sitting together. You

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<v Speaker 2>were off getting photos with like this rock star that

0:18:07.720 --> 0:18:10.960
<v Speaker 2>rock star, country music stars, and I was sitting with

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<v Speaker 2>him and he was very, very very nice. But then

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<v Speaker 2>he would get up and disappear and then come back.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, when you're on a date, like I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not expecting you to like kiss my feet, but when

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<v Speaker 2>you're on a date with me, or I suppose date,

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<v Speaker 2>or you know, even if you're just meeting me, I

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<v Speaker 2>expect to see some kind of genuine interests.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And it wasn't like he was joined the French thing,

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<v Speaker 2>which is like disinterested. He was just like kind of distant.

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<v Speaker 2>And he was also like asking me questions instead of

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<v Speaker 2>being like, hey, you know, listen, you don't you know

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<v Speaker 2>who you're gonna meet? Do you know what I mean, like,

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<v Speaker 2>and who knows, Maybe I would, maybe I was open

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<v Speaker 2>to it, but because he was kind of weird with me,

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<v Speaker 2>it made me uncomfortable and just like I hung out

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<v Speaker 2>with the end of the whole time.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is the beautiful thing. Guys. If you're listening

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<v Speaker 1>and you're single, about dating is like you're here to

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<v Speaker 1>tell the story.

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<v Speaker 3>You're either in it or or not.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, who knows. Again, we talked about about

0:19:13.320 --> 0:19:15.919
<v Speaker 2>kissing frogs. You don't know who the prince is or

0:19:15.960 --> 0:19:21.320
<v Speaker 2>the princess is if you don't try. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>how do you know that I'm interested or not interested?

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<v Speaker 1>You think that he was intimidated, and then I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think he was intimidated.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that he was trying to figure out what's

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<v Speaker 2>going on and what's happening. And you know, I think

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<v Speaker 2>that you have to take every we talked about this before.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to take every opportunity, Like if you see

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<v Speaker 2>a hot girl on the subway, Hello, here's my here's

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<v Speaker 2>my number. I want to talk to you. Whatever you

0:19:48.480 --> 0:19:50.680
<v Speaker 2>have to take, you have to take the initiative because

0:19:50.720 --> 0:19:53.040
<v Speaker 2>it's the time that moment's going to go. So if

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<v Speaker 2>you don't like say like, hey, I would love to

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<v Speaker 2>do X, Y or Z or whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, how am I sp to know?

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, I'm very interested to hear his take.

0:20:04.200 --> 0:20:05.840
<v Speaker 3>Yes, because me too.

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<v Speaker 1>It's hard for me to picture a scenario where he

0:20:08.720 --> 0:20:11.800
<v Speaker 1>was not very interested in you, But I guess we'll

0:20:11.800 --> 0:20:15.600
<v Speaker 1>find out. But yeah, listen, So okay, so right now

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<v Speaker 1>before we bring I'm gonna talk to Pascal and then

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<v Speaker 1>talk to both of you. But you feel like he

0:20:20.920 --> 0:20:25.680
<v Speaker 1>just wasn't present present and okay that's a perfect word.

0:20:25.600 --> 0:20:28.600
<v Speaker 3>Not present. So that was a turnoff, wildly turned off.

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<v Speaker 2>Whereas like Gary was like we were walking down the

0:20:33.600 --> 0:20:39.600
<v Speaker 2>red carpet at i Hurt Radio with every famous musician

0:20:39.680 --> 0:20:41.920
<v Speaker 2>and you getting photos with all those famous musicians.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah I know, I know.

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<v Speaker 3>And he was the most charming, lovely human.

0:20:47.320 --> 0:20:49.360
<v Speaker 2>He was like, are you okay? Is everything all right?

0:20:49.400 --> 0:20:51.640
<v Speaker 1>Well, Pascal did mention to me that he does think

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<v Speaker 1>that Gary has a very big thing for you, So

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if that has anything to do with this.

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<v Speaker 1>I will ask him. Nobody did say that, but you

0:20:58.640 --> 0:21:00.600
<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying, Yes, say what you're saying.

0:21:00.640 --> 0:21:03.520
<v Speaker 3>I think that a man, you know what a man

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<v Speaker 3>likes you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, well, I'm going to know because sometimes.

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<v Speaker 2>And sometimes sometimes you know, because they do the opposite,

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<v Speaker 2>Like they'll be mean to you, or they'll say you

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<v Speaker 2>know what I mean, you know, they'll like poke you,

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<v Speaker 2>or you think you.

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<v Speaker 1>Could have liked him though there was potential for it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>I was on the podcast with him and then I

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<v Speaker 2>met him today, and I think he's a really, really,

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<v Speaker 2>really incredible person. Do I think he's the right person

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<v Speaker 2>for me. I don't think so. And you know, one

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<v Speaker 2>of the reasons that he's not is because, to be

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<v Speaker 2>honest with you, is because he's French. Like I already,

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<v Speaker 2>you're married a Frenchman. I already know what that's about.

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<v Speaker 2>And by the way, and I love French culture and

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<v Speaker 2>I love frenchmen, but I don't want to be married

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<v Speaker 2>to another Frenchman.

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<v Speaker 3>Fair enough, I just don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll speak French all day long with you, we can

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<v Speaker 2>be pen pals, we can talk on the phone. I

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<v Speaker 2>just do not want to be married to another french Man.

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<v Speaker 2>I want a family for my family. I want a

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<v Speaker 2>real man who loves my kids. Because they didn't have

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<v Speaker 2>that family's environment. They only had me as their parent.

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<v Speaker 2>And I want a man who's nurturing and loving not

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<v Speaker 2>only to me but also to our.

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<v Speaker 1>If you were at Pascal say in the episode you

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<v Speaker 1>Guys did together that he really doesn't not interested in

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<v Speaker 1>any small kids, which is okay. He has been a father,

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<v Speaker 1>he does not want to be a father again. And

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<v Speaker 1>so I don't know if that struck you at all.

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<v Speaker 1>It did, But when I was listening, I was like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>even if your kids are of a certain age, there're

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<v Speaker 1>still you know, you want somebody that wants they.

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<v Speaker 3>Still needs to be They're still in that process.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, they're still going, there's still meeting men, there's

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<v Speaker 2>still you know, navigating their their work, their work life.

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<v Speaker 3>They're navigating you know, their new future.

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<v Speaker 2>And they're going to have be having children. And I

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<v Speaker 2>definitely want to be one thousand percent a part of

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<v Speaker 2>every part of it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, So that's just super important to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that is really.

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<v Speaker 2>Family is paramount to my happiness.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it is to his too. But but whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a disconnect here, all right.

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<v Speaker 2>But like I mean, like family together all the time,

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<v Speaker 2>but I stand together all the time. Yes, And I

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<v Speaker 2>don't care how all the old the kids are. My

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<v Speaker 2>ex had younger children like I don't. I'm not worried

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<v Speaker 2>about having about being around younger children.

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<v Speaker 3>I just want a family for my family.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that. It's the greatest expression. Do you make

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<v Speaker 1>that up?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>I love it. All right, we're gonna bring pastcalon and

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<v Speaker 1>then we're gonna bring it together.

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<v Speaker 3>Worsmith, You didn't know you are.

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<v Speaker 1>A wordsmith amongst other things, amongst many, many, many other talents.

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<v Speaker 3>No, but it's important, you know, you have to.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's the other thing that I learned from

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<v Speaker 2>this whole entire process. There's two things that I've learned.

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<v Speaker 2>One is to be vulnerable but also protective. There's a

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<v Speaker 2>there's a there's a very very very fine line of

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<v Speaker 2>being vulnerable where you're not protecting yourself. That is not

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<v Speaker 2>what I want. So I want to I want to

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<v Speaker 2>be open and available to this new life that I

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<v Speaker 2>have in this new life partner. But I also want

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<v Speaker 2>to make sure that I'm protecting myself because I never

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<v Speaker 2>did that before. So that's really important. And then having

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<v Speaker 2>a family for my family has been always what I've

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<v Speaker 2>wanted for my entire life.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's coming to enjoy the time there, enjoy the

0:24:19.280 --> 0:24:21.080
<v Speaker 1>time that you're having right now being single. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>going to last forever. I can promise you that. And

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<v Speaker 1>now you're out of here because I want to to Pascal.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 1>All right you guys wasn't present?

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<v Speaker 3>Why were you not?

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<v Speaker 1>Were you not present?

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<v Speaker 3>All right, girl?

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, I love you.