1 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 1: Welcome back to I Do Part two. I am one 2 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: of your celebrity mentors, Jennifer Fessler. You know me from 3 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 1: the podcast I co host to Jersey Jays with Jackie 4 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:24,439 Speaker 1: Goldschneider and from the Real Housewives of New Jersey. I 5 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 1: am so excited because tonight I am joined by fellow housewife, 6 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:32,199 Speaker 1: well by housewife, I'm not a house anyway, and celebrity 7 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:36,279 Speaker 1: mentor Kelly ben Simone, and we are coming to you 8 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 1: from Live in the Vineyard in Napa Valley, California. Hi, Kel, Hi, 9 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 1: I think my voice just cracked a little. 10 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 2: I know, because we've had a long Weekay, it's been 11 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 2: a day. Well, you and I both came from Newark. 12 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 1: Right to I came from Kennedy. Oh you did, Oh 13 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 1: beckew Delta. 14 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 3: Oh my god. 15 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 2: So we both came from New York today. Oh my god. 16 00:00:58,800 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 3: So it's a long day. 17 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 2: It's a but how unbelievably gorgeous is it here? 18 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I've never been in weather. Just the weather. 19 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:09,320 Speaker 1: It is so beautiful. Napa is gorgeous. 20 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:11,040 Speaker 3: Just don't take a taxi. 21 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:13,040 Speaker 2: I got off, I get out of the airport and 22 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, I'm just going to take a taxi. 23 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 2: I was like, a taxi, you didn't take an uber? 24 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:18,960 Speaker 2: I was like, no, I'm I live in New York, 25 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 2: Like we take taxis literally four hundred dollars later, so 26 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:23,039 Speaker 2: don't do that. 27 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 1: Much or was not that much less, but also we 28 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: just don't take the uber. Listen, thank you, iHeart. 29 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 2: Thank you. 30 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: Okay, Kelly, So I we are going to jump right 31 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 1: in because I feel like the I Do listeners have 32 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: been on this journey with you and having to do 33 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 1: with your dating life. Yes, so let me just give you, 34 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 1: guys first, a little bit of the backstory. So, Kelly, 35 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: you when was it back a little ways? You played 36 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: the dating game? Yes, our friend Kelly here is single 37 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 1: and ready to mingle. And you played the dating game 38 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: on I Do Part two with three different men. Yes, 39 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 1: and you chose one from the Golden Bachelor. Correct, you chose. 40 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:17,959 Speaker 2: They already have Three of the guys on the dating 41 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 2: game were from the Golden Bachelor. 42 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, and I chose one of them. Okay, So 43 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: you chose one of them. 44 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 2: I chose him because he can make salmon at a 45 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 2: certain temperature. 46 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 1: All right, apparably really like salmon. Or so you gotta 47 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 1: think for sam. I like, but I. 48 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 2: Also like men that cook. Okay, Kelly, I can make food. 49 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 2: I can make food, but I don't I don't like to. 50 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 1: There was something about the I don't like to cue on. 51 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 3: I love when a man makes me food. 52 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 1: Okay, But it didn't work out. His his proficiency in 53 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 1: salmon cooking was not enough because. 54 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 2: Well it wasn't enough because then he started texting me 55 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:59,519 Speaker 2: these telendovellas about what he's doing, how kind of pocket 56 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 2: square he's wearing. I'm like, have you met me before 57 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 2: you read? 58 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 1: Right? 59 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 3: My name is Kelly, how are you nice to see you? 60 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 1: Where are you from? Right? 61 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 2: And he jumped he jumped in and was just like, 62 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:13,920 Speaker 2: I'm going to be a superstar. 63 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 3: And this was happening, and then. 64 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 1: I'm going to be a superstar like he was. 65 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 2: He was going to be a he was going to 66 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 2: be on some television show. I was like, that's great. 67 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 2: I thought you were a doctor. That kind of turned 68 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 2: me off. And so then it was so wild because 69 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 2: I'm like, all of a sudden, like he's texting me 70 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 2: and he's like, I have I can't go to I 71 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 2: can't come meet you at iHeart because I'm meeting this 72 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 2: girl and this is her name, and I'm like okay, 73 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 2: and I said, did I miss something? That was my Yeah, 74 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 2: I didn't say I literally just read it and I said, 75 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 2: did I miss something? And then he went into a 76 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 2: whole other thing about why he couldn't go on the 77 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 2: date with me or whatever, why we couldn't walk the carpet. 78 00:03:59,040 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 1: Oh my god. 79 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 2: And I got to walk the carpet with Gary, and 80 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 2: that's where you and I became yes. 81 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 1: But hold on a second, hold on. So Gary was 82 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 1: Bachelor number whatever two three. I was gonna pick Gary, 83 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: but you didn't Gary. I wanted to pick Gary. I 84 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,160 Speaker 1: really really want Gary's also from the Golden Bachelor. 85 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 3: He is also from the Golden Battery. Also can cook 86 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:19,159 Speaker 3: very well. 87 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 2: But the salmon really got me. 88 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:23,359 Speaker 1: That was something about this, I have to be honest 89 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:27,479 Speaker 1: with you. I listened to that episode, as I do 90 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 1: listen to all of I DO Part two episodes, and 91 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:34,279 Speaker 1: I'm like listening to it and it was so I'm sorry, Kelly, 92 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 1: but like I was like, this is no, no, no, 93 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 1: no no. It was so awkward. My kids get so 94 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 1: pissed when. 95 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 3: I do that. 96 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 1: It was so kind of cringe no, I mean you 97 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 1: didn't feel like that. 98 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 3: You know, I was having so much fun. 99 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 2: And I think one thing that's been really great about 100 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 2: being on I Do Part two is that I started 101 00:04:56,640 --> 00:05:01,719 Speaker 2: with therapy, and then every single time that we would film. 102 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 3: And be on the podcast and in the pod, I 103 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 3: was applying what I was learning. 104 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: I love that. 105 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 2: And so not only was I learning new you know, 106 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 2: a new not not a narrative people like it's not 107 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 2: a narrative, I was learning how to apply my new 108 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 2: tools with my in my tool belt for times when 109 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 2: I needed it. I was also learning when things were 110 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:26,719 Speaker 2: triggering me from my past, like you know, you know, 111 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:29,359 Speaker 2: you and I have talked about this before about you know, 112 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 2: being wildly insecure and you know, having you know, men 113 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 2: not be exactly like not choosing good men, like you know, 114 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 2: being around men that were not not really good for me. 115 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 2: And so I've made this concerted effort to really open, 116 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:48,600 Speaker 2: be more open, be more vulnerable, and be more respectful 117 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:49,479 Speaker 2: of myself. 118 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 3: So I was like salmon for the wind right. 119 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 1: But I'm saying, even with all of that, when I 120 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 1: thought of these because what you're saying is you are 121 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 1: more open, and you were more open because when I 122 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 1: listened to it, what I thought was none of these 123 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 1: three guys are for Kelly, absolutely not. And hel you're 124 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 1: a cool cat, and not that these I'm not trying 125 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:15,279 Speaker 1: to say that these guys are not cool, but different 126 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 1: there they felt if. 127 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 3: You're making. 128 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 1: They are such nice guys. Listen, I'm not married to 129 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:25,720 Speaker 1: a cool cat. Let's get real. My husband, Jeff Fesler 130 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:29,159 Speaker 1: is there's nothing cool about him. Amazing, I agree, but 131 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:31,840 Speaker 1: he's not cool. These guys, I don't know. I just 132 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 1: didn't see. 133 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:34,919 Speaker 2: That's he is cool because you can take him anywhere 134 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:36,840 Speaker 2: and he is like very very easy. 135 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: Again, these three guys anywhere too. But I'm saying, like 136 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:42,159 Speaker 1: even their responses they were just a little cringe. I 137 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 1: feel like they were a little come on, you know 138 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But you yes, I think that it's 139 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: great that you were open and you were like, doesn't matter. 140 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 1: He likes salmon. I like salmon. This could work. 141 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:54,480 Speaker 2: But you know what that I think Jen two, is 142 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 2: that that was That's one of the things that I 143 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 2: think is really important when you are dating, is that 144 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:03,599 Speaker 2: not to date the person that you want, but to 145 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:07,039 Speaker 2: start dating and be in the pool because you never 146 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 2: know who you're gonna meet. 147 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 1: And also, Kelly, you don't know. 148 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 3: That you know how that you know? It's like you 149 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 3: did there. 150 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god, you could get a 151 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 2: kiss a couple of maion frogs and you meet the prince. 152 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 2: But some many times you don't know that the prince 153 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 2: is the frog. You don't know that, Kelly, and all. 154 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 1: You know by the way you're on nd but you're 155 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 1: not in it. 156 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 2: You're gonna get I mean what I'm gonna sit in 157 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 2: I sit at home my dating that being like this 158 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 2: guy's hot, this guy's not. 159 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 1: Yes, listen to it, like physically engage with the smart 160 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 1: one because I was like, oh god, none of these 161 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 1: three kids, there's something wrong with them. But I'm just saying, 162 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 1: like none of these guys are for Kelly as I 163 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 1: was listening to it. But the truth is you're right, 164 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: and it's like great advice. 165 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 3: It's that you have to be in it. 166 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 1: You have to and write, you have to give it 167 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 1: some you have to like I used to say this, 168 00:07:58,240 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 1: you know how woman. 169 00:07:58,800 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 3: To you know what? 170 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 2: You know? It's like there's it's been interesting too because 171 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 2: I that one one person said to me, dating is 172 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 2: like a job. 173 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 3: And you have to treat it like a job. 174 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 2: Yes, you know how like you're like and you go 175 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 2: to the gym and your hair is boned now and 176 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 2: you're ready to go and you're on your phone, calls 177 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 2: you your mo. 178 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 3: You have to do the same thing the day. I 179 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 3: want to be like dressed. You have to be ready 180 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 3: to do. You have to be well rested, you have 181 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 3: to have you have to like be so interesting. 182 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 1: Yes, going out to meet a guy if it were 183 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 1: me right now and I was single, even when I 184 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 1: was single in my twenties, I I, oh, I had 185 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: dates all the time because I always said yes, didn't 186 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 1: matter like if they were whatever it was because it 187 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: was just a drink or it was just ID never 188 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 1: made dinner dates and. 189 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 2: More often than not very easy going. 190 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 1: Right right, But I would be a very. 191 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 2: Woman nally you can like you can talk to like 192 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 2: wet paint. I mean, you are like very very I 193 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 2: I am very I'm I'm a very outgoing person, but 194 00:08:55,800 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 2: I'm also wildly insecure. So I present as outgoing, but 195 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 2: I am super super very very reserved and like like 196 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:05,199 Speaker 2: literally like. 197 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 1: You opened yourself up though to these three guys that 198 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 1: I found completely cringe guys, I don't mean it like that. 199 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 1: I just mean a little bit. Yeah I do. But 200 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 1: but but if I if you're my best friend, I'm 201 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:36,080 Speaker 1: telling you it doesn't matter. Kelly, pick one and let's 202 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 1: play it out. Let's see what happens. That's what they 203 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 1: were just on. You know what they were. They were 204 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 1: holding microphones in their hair. They were being recorded and 205 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 1: maybe they were awkward, but you did and you right. 206 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:47,199 Speaker 3: So I did not see them. 207 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:48,679 Speaker 2: So it was like the dating game, so I had 208 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 2: no idea, not so I couldn't make a judgment based 209 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 2: on physical I love. 210 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 1: Yes, you're right, I'm wrong you. I'm glad of you. 211 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 3: No, you're not wrong. 212 00:09:57,559 --> 00:09:59,959 Speaker 1: They were, but like you did the right thing. I'm 213 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 1: glad that you picked when you went out, or you 214 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 1: didn't go out with him. He turns out that he 215 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:06,319 Speaker 1: was cringey. And then you moved on to Gary, who 216 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 1: was very sweet, and you took two the iHeart Music Awards. 217 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 1: And I know, but it didn't obviously I don't. There's 218 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 1: there's no ring on your finger, or it's not going 219 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 1: to be. It doesn't sound like it was. But it 220 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 1: was so far I ever a date, but yes, and 221 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: it made me feel really good. Okay. 222 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 2: And so after we left that night and I got 223 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 2: to meet you, and I was in a really good 224 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 2: mood and I had a lot of fun. And then 225 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 2: when I left and went back to New York, I 226 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 2: felt really good about myself. And that's the other thing 227 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 2: that's good about going out a lot of going on 228 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 2: a lot of different dates, is that because you you 229 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 2: don't know, you don't even know who these people are. 230 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:43,479 Speaker 2: One guy said to me something that was really interesting. 231 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 2: He said, let's just go on a date, because the 232 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 2: worst thing that could happen is we could be really 233 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 2: good friends. 234 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 1: That's every that's I used to preach that. I'm just saying, 235 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: like maybe if there's not a connection, like maybe you 236 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 1: know someone, maybe I know someone, Right, that's how people 237 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 1: should look at day, Like it's just Pete, we're just 238 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 1: two people. 239 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:04,599 Speaker 2: And I have done that before. I have gone in 240 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 2: to day and I'm thinking to myself, this guy's not 241 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 2: good for me. I'm gonna introduce him to my friend. 242 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 2: I've done that many times. 243 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 1: Yes, Okay, so Gary, I don't I don't know why 244 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 1: he wasn't for you, but let's just I'm gonna s 245 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 1: so we love Gary we love Gary, but it wasn't 246 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: a love connection. No, okay, but I love It's amazing. 247 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 1: And then you got a d M from Let's take 248 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 1: it from here, Yes, so tell us about that. 249 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 2: So I had no idea who this was, and I 250 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 2: get a lot of dms. 251 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 1: I do. 252 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:32,079 Speaker 2: I'm not going to sit here and bullshit you guys. 253 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 2: I get a lot of d ms of people. Sometimes 254 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 2: they're for real, sometimes they're not. And so he was like, 255 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 2: I'm from Chicago, and like, no one ever comes off 256 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 2: and is like I'm from Chicago. I was like, wait, 257 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, what. 258 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 1: Do you lot Why that's so unusual because I'm from Rockford. 259 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 3: So it's like, it's like that's close proximity. 260 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 1: Okay. 261 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:52,199 Speaker 3: It's like if someone says. 262 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 2: That I don't know, like Texas, yeah, Texas right there, 263 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 2: they're from you near your hometown or like but they 264 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:01,680 Speaker 2: they went to college with you in Boston or something, 265 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:03,560 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. They were like, it's just 266 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 2: you know, just it just I never meet people that 267 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 2: are in my circle, and so it's nice to know 268 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 2: that there's someone there who kind of understands and that 269 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 2: has a baseline understanding, so we don't have to be like, oh, 270 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 2: you know. 271 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 3: What's you know? 272 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:22,199 Speaker 2: You know, what do you guys? 273 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:22,959 Speaker 3: What do you guys eat? 274 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 2: In Illinois? 275 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 3: People people always ask me. I'm like, what do you mean. 276 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 2: When we eat like cheese? Obviously right joking, but people 277 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 2: ask me that all the time. So what do they 278 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 2: eat there? I'm like, food? 279 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 1: Like I never thought it to ask anyone from Chicago that. 280 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 2: Because you're a sophisticated woman, I'm talking about I'm talking 281 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 2: about guys. 282 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:46,439 Speaker 1: Oh, we have to talk about Pascal, right, so we're 283 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 1: gonna What was interesting is that when he was saying 284 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:53,319 Speaker 1: all those things is that he was talking about things 285 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 1: that made me feel comfortable. 286 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 3: He's talking about. 287 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 2: Illinois and he was like, oh, I'm a hairdresser, you 288 00:12:57,320 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 2: have beautiful hair. 289 00:12:58,440 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 3: He was talking. 290 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:01,200 Speaker 2: I mean, I know that sounds weird, but I mean 291 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:02,679 Speaker 2: it was also very nice. 292 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:04,359 Speaker 3: Too nice. 293 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 2: And you know, he was on this show and he 294 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 2: knew both Guy and Gary, who I I didn't. I 295 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 2: don't know Guy, but I mean I did have some 296 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 2: I did read some of his texts, and then you know, 297 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 2: I obviously spent some time with Gary, who was so 298 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 2: lovely and so did you and so yeah, so there 299 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 2: were there was like a common denominated right. 300 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:30,559 Speaker 1: Right, So he slid in I really hate that expression. 301 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:35,319 Speaker 1: He slid in to your d MS and said, I'm 302 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 1: from Chicago. Great, So now you guys made the connection. 303 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 1: And so I didn't know who he was because you 304 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 1: didn't watch the Golden Bachelor, right right with Bachelrette. 305 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 2: Right, and I've watched The Bachelor for a thousand rights, 306 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 2: but that I hadn't watched the Golden Bachelor, okay, And 307 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 2: so I didn't know who he was, and you were 308 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 2: open as you were. He told me he was on 309 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:59,320 Speaker 2: it and he was mentioning these people. So again like 310 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 2: there was like a was. 311 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 1: Like, so he wanted so he said, let's meet. And 312 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:06,680 Speaker 1: then what you said, you called the producer said okay, 313 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 1: so here's this guy. Let's let's set it up. And 314 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 1: they said, why don't you guys meet? 315 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:12,680 Speaker 2: I just was like, what is going on here? Is 316 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 2: this going to be like guy number two? Is he 317 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 2: just you just want to meet me because he you know, 318 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 2: like I'm on Housewives and he was on the Bachelor, 319 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 2: and he wants to like you know, you never you 320 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 2: don't know like I was talking about, you know, I 321 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 2: was just saying that like when I would go on dates. 322 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 2: I would think that people were like, oh, I want 323 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 2: to I want to date her because she's wild and crazy. 324 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 2: Because people would call me crazy. I'm from Scary Island. 325 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 2: I'm not I'm the least crazy person. I'm like so grounded, 326 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 2: it's ridiculous. But they thought and then they were bored. 327 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 2: They're like, Oh, she's just really not crazy. 328 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 3: She just eats cheese. 329 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 2: I'm just joking. She wants to want to sammy each cheese. 330 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 2: But you know, that was one of those those are 331 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 2: the things that were happening. So to meet someone that 332 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 2: was you know, common, you know, the common denominator sounded 333 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 2: like really interesting and and I was. 334 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 3: Like, oh, maybe he's great. Right, So then. 335 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 1: Now here we are, now here we are now about 336 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 1: the producer said, let's do it in Napa, right. 337 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 2: So we had we talked over we were on a 338 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 2: podcast together, okay, and we spoke. 339 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 1: I actually know that I listened to and he was 340 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 1: very charming. He is very charming, very very charming. 341 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 2: I mean I was not answering the questions correctly. He 342 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 2: was like they were like if you could go, and 343 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 2: and if you could go. Bob was like, if you 344 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 2: could go, you know, on date with Kelly, where would 345 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 2: you take her? And he said this very very nice, 346 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 2: this really nice date. And I was like, oh, I 347 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 2: would take you to Gibson's and show you my Playboy cover. 348 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 1: I don't know. 349 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 3: I mean I was making total jerk. 350 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 1: Well obviously not too much of a jerk because he 351 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 1: showed up NAPA, right. 352 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 3: I mean, I was just like, you know what, like 353 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 3: if it's hard. 354 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 1: That's a hard scenario when you're being asked these questions. 355 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 1: I mean you asked those guys like if you were 356 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 1: a rooster and I was a chicken, what would be 357 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 1: your cockadile? I would have died? Like like I was like. 358 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 2: Okay, but I was infusing the tools on my toolbout 359 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 2: because I'm spposed to be opening vulnerable and here I 360 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 2: was talking about my Playboy colver and like how you 361 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 2: should like look at it. 362 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 1: Sorry, I'm a Kelly fan, so I'm going to say 363 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 1: that that's there's nothing wrong with that. Sorry. So now 364 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 1: you guys get to NAPA. You meet for the first time, Yes, 365 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 1: right off the bat, what was your first impression? 366 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 3: Very attractive, very attractive, very fit. 367 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 1: Yes. By the way, guys, if you don't know Pascal 368 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 1: is French. 369 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 3: He is from Paris. 370 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 1: Yes, he's from Paris. 371 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 4: He owns multiple salons in Chicago. Correct, and yes he's 372 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 4: a big businessman. Your husband ex husmand is French. Excuse me, 373 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 4: you were raising Illinois. Clue, there's a common thread common threads, 374 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 4: I should say. So you meet him, first impression, good 375 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 4: looking fit. 376 00:16:57,120 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 3: Right, okay, good looking infit? 377 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 2: And I met him and I was, I mean, I 378 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 2: met him this morning and I was in a bikini. 379 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:07,399 Speaker 1: Literally, so that is the way to go. 380 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:09,639 Speaker 2: I saw you and then I saw him. I was like, 381 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:11,680 Speaker 2: I mean, seeing today in a bikini, it's been great. 382 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 1: If I were Kelly Bensman, I would definitely meet a 383 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:16,200 Speaker 1: first date in a bikini. That'd be a smart move. 384 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 1: So just so you guys did, whether or not it 385 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:24,640 Speaker 1: was the intention, it worked. So now we go. 386 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:26,679 Speaker 3: We go all swad weird. She was on too and 387 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 3: a big robe. 388 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 2: I don't think you saw that for it. 389 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:31,640 Speaker 1: So we all so you saw him in your bikini 390 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 1: and then what then we all got into the sprinter van. Yes, okay, 391 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:37,640 Speaker 1: So now you guys are chit chatting in the sprinter van. Yes, 392 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:39,879 Speaker 1: we're all kind of chit chatting. Yes, we get to 393 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 1: the concert. You guys, we were not all sitting together, 394 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 1: So just tell me a little bit about what your 395 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 1: thoughts are. How'd you see? 396 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 2: So Deanna and I we know each other from another podcast, 397 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 2: and we we we hit. 398 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 3: It off really really well. 399 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 2: She was on She's a Beautiful, Beautiful Girl from Bachelor Nation. 400 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 2: She was on The Bachelor and the Bachelorette, And so 401 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 2: we were the three of us were sitting together. You 402 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 2: were off getting photos with like this rock star that 403 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 2: rock star, country music stars, and I was sitting with 404 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 2: him and he was very, very very nice. But then 405 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 2: he would get up and disappear and then come back. 406 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:20,200 Speaker 2: And you know, when you're on a date, like I'm 407 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 2: not expecting you to like kiss my feet, but when 408 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:25,160 Speaker 2: you're on a date with me, or I suppose date, 409 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:28,159 Speaker 2: or you know, even if you're just meeting me, I 410 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 2: expect to see some kind of genuine interests. 411 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:32,399 Speaker 1: Yeah. 412 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 2: And it wasn't like he was joined the French thing, 413 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 2: which is like disinterested. He was just like kind of distant. 414 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 2: And he was also like asking me questions instead of 415 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 2: being like, hey, you know, listen, you don't you know 416 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 2: who you're gonna meet? Do you know what I mean, like, 417 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:52,879 Speaker 2: and who knows, Maybe I would, maybe I was open 418 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 2: to it, but because he was kind of weird with me, 419 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:59,159 Speaker 2: it made me uncomfortable and just like I hung out 420 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 2: with the end of the whole time. 421 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 1: So this is the beautiful thing. Guys. If you're listening 422 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 1: and you're single, about dating is like you're here to 423 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:06,919 Speaker 1: tell the story. 424 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:09,639 Speaker 3: You're either in it or or not. 425 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 2: And you know, who knows. Again, we talked about about 426 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:15,919 Speaker 2: kissing frogs. You don't know who the prince is or 427 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 2: the princess is if you don't try. And you know, 428 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 2: how do you know that I'm interested or not interested? 429 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:29,119 Speaker 1: You think that he was intimidated, and then I don't know. 430 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 3: I don't think he was intimidated. 431 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:33,679 Speaker 2: I think that he was trying to figure out what's 432 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 2: going on and what's happening. And you know, I think 433 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:40,400 Speaker 2: that you have to take every we talked about this before. 434 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 2: You have to take every opportunity, Like if you see 435 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:46,400 Speaker 2: a hot girl on the subway, Hello, here's my here's 436 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:48,479 Speaker 2: my number. I want to talk to you. Whatever you 437 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:50,680 Speaker 2: have to take, you have to take the initiative because 438 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 2: it's the time that moment's going to go. So if 439 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:55,199 Speaker 2: you don't like say like, hey, I would love to 440 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 2: do X, Y or Z or whatever. 441 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 3: You know, how am I sp to know? 442 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 1: Wow, I'm very interested to hear his take. 443 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 3: Yes, because me too. 444 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 1: It's hard for me to picture a scenario where he 445 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 1: was not very interested in you, But I guess we'll 446 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 1: find out. But yeah, listen, So okay, so right now 447 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 1: before we bring I'm gonna talk to Pascal and then 448 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 1: talk to both of you. But you feel like he 449 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:25,680 Speaker 1: just wasn't present present and okay that's a perfect word. 450 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 3: Not present. So that was a turnoff, wildly turned off. 451 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 2: Whereas like Gary was like we were walking down the 452 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 2: red carpet at i Hurt Radio with every famous musician 453 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:41,920 Speaker 2: and you getting photos with all those famous musicians. 454 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 1: Yeah I know, I know. 455 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:47,160 Speaker 3: And he was the most charming, lovely human. 456 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:49,360 Speaker 2: He was like, are you okay? Is everything all right? 457 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:51,640 Speaker 1: Well, Pascal did mention to me that he does think 458 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:53,920 Speaker 1: that Gary has a very big thing for you, So 459 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 1: I don't know if that has anything to do with this. 460 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 1: I will ask him. Nobody did say that, but you 461 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Yes, say what you're saying. 462 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 3: I think that a man, you know what a man 463 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 3: likes you. 464 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, well, I'm going to know because sometimes. 465 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:11,639 Speaker 2: And sometimes sometimes you know, because they do the opposite, 466 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 2: Like they'll be mean to you, or they'll say you 467 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:16,119 Speaker 2: know what I mean, you know, they'll like poke you, 468 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 2: or you think you. 469 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 1: Could have liked him though there was potential for it. 470 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 1: You know. 471 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 2: I was on the podcast with him and then I 472 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 2: met him today, and I think he's a really, really, 473 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 2: really incredible person. Do I think he's the right person 474 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 2: for me. I don't think so. And you know, one 475 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 2: of the reasons that he's not is because, to be 476 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 2: honest with you, is because he's French. Like I already, 477 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,680 Speaker 2: you're married a Frenchman. I already know what that's about. 478 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 2: And by the way, and I love French culture and 479 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 2: I love frenchmen, but I don't want to be married 480 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 2: to another Frenchman. 481 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 3: Fair enough, I just don't. 482 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:51,879 Speaker 2: I'll speak French all day long with you, we can 483 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:53,679 Speaker 2: be pen pals, we can talk on the phone. I 484 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 2: just do not want to be married to another french Man. 485 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 2: I want a family for my family. I want a 486 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:04,440 Speaker 2: real man who loves my kids. Because they didn't have 487 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 2: that family's environment. They only had me as their parent. 488 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 2: And I want a man who's nurturing and loving not 489 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 2: only to me but also to our. 490 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 1: If you were at Pascal say in the episode you 491 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:21,199 Speaker 1: Guys did together that he really doesn't not interested in 492 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 1: any small kids, which is okay. He has been a father, 493 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 1: he does not want to be a father again. And 494 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:31,400 Speaker 1: so I don't know if that struck you at all. 495 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:34,199 Speaker 1: It did, But when I was listening, I was like, well, 496 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,880 Speaker 1: even if your kids are of a certain age, there're 497 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:39,159 Speaker 1: still you know, you want somebody that wants they. 498 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 3: Still needs to be They're still in that process. 499 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:43,880 Speaker 2: I mean, they're still going, there's still meeting men, there's 500 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:47,439 Speaker 2: still you know, navigating their their work, their work life. 501 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 3: They're navigating you know, their new future. 502 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 2: And they're going to have be having children. And I 503 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:55,679 Speaker 2: definitely want to be one thousand percent a part of 504 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 2: every part of it. 505 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 3: Yes, So that's just super important to me. 506 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, that is really. 507 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:04,640 Speaker 2: Family is paramount to my happiness. 508 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 1: I think it is to his too. But but whatever, 509 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 1: there's a disconnect here, all right. 510 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 2: But like I mean, like family together all the time, 511 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 2: but I stand together all the time. Yes, And I 512 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 2: don't care how all the old the kids are. My 513 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 2: ex had younger children like I don't. I'm not worried 514 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 2: about having about being around younger children. 515 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:23,159 Speaker 3: I just want a family for my family. 516 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 1: I love that. It's the greatest expression. Do you make 517 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 1: that up? 518 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 2: Yes? 519 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,399 Speaker 1: I love it. All right, we're gonna bring pastcalon and 520 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 1: then we're gonna bring it together. 521 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:32,680 Speaker 3: Worsmith, You didn't know you are. 522 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:37,360 Speaker 1: A wordsmith amongst other things, amongst many, many, many other talents. 523 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 3: No, but it's important, you know, you have to. 524 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 2: I think that's the other thing that I learned from 525 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:44,399 Speaker 2: this whole entire process. There's two things that I've learned. 526 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 2: One is to be vulnerable but also protective. There's a 527 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:52,160 Speaker 2: there's a there's a very very very fine line of 528 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:56,199 Speaker 2: being vulnerable where you're not protecting yourself. That is not 529 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 2: what I want. So I want to I want to 530 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:01,199 Speaker 2: be open and available to this new life that I 531 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:03,640 Speaker 2: have in this new life partner. But I also want 532 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:05,680 Speaker 2: to make sure that I'm protecting myself because I never 533 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 2: did that before. So that's really important. And then having 534 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 2: a family for my family has been always what I've 535 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,919 Speaker 2: wanted for my entire life. 536 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 1: Well, it's coming to enjoy the time there, enjoy the 537 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 1: time that you're having right now being single. It's not 538 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 1: going to last forever. I can promise you that. And 539 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 1: now you're out of here because I want to to Pascal. 540 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:27,160 Speaker 3: Oh my god. 541 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 1: All right you guys wasn't present? 542 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 3: Why were you not? 543 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 1: Were you not present? 544 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 3: All right, girl? 545 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:37,400 Speaker 2: Thank you, I love you.