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Speaker 1: Revere, Revere Dogs.

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Speaker 2: Look at us now, tip to tip. This is our life,

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Speaker 2: this is our passion. That's the spirit we bring to

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Speaker 2: this show. I'm Luke Thomas, I'm Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 1: This this Morning Combat. Hey, it's a Monday. You ain't

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Speaker 1: got no job. You ain't got anything to do except

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Speaker 1: watch this show or listen to it. Maybe I don't know,

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Speaker 1: but here we are ready to get things going for you.

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Speaker 1: It's Morning Combat on this seventeenth of July twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 1: My name is Luke Thomas. I am merely one half

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Speaker 1: of your hosting duo. I joined you from the capital

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Speaker 1: of the status Needles right here in Washington, d C.

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Speaker 1: Joined by a man who was I would say, mostly

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Speaker 1: radio silence since Friday. It's Brian Campbell. What's up, Brian Campbell?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I've you know what I have, Luke, The

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Speaker 2: best weekend ever because I don't know if you checked

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Speaker 2: the weather, but it's raining like feral cats and dogs

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Speaker 2: in England over the weekend. Luke, So I had a

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Speaker 2: everybody stay home, nobody shower, nobody do anything weekend. You

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Speaker 2: know what I mean, Luke? That's how I get down.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I didn't do that. My wife is out

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Speaker 1: of town on work assignment, and so I've got the kid,

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Speaker 1: but Aboila is with me. So yesterday we went to

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Speaker 1: the Doctor Seuss Experience in Tyson's Corner in Fairfax County,

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Speaker 1: and my daughter had the time of her life. Had

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Speaker 1: the time of her life. She really is.

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Speaker 2: What percentage of the time you speak to a boila

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Speaker 2: is it on Espanol?

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Speaker 1: Probably fifty to fifty. Okay like that? Yeah, yeah, Tuki

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Speaker 1: which is annoying for my wife. Let me let me

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Speaker 1: assure you she doesn't love that at all. I will say,

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Speaker 1: be see at the mall, not once, but twice got

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Speaker 1: spotted by some dogs.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, okay, young male. That is Tuks getting

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Speaker 2: to the level where she understands what that means, Luke,

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Speaker 2: when all of these ravenous single males seek you out.

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Speaker 1: No, in fact, quite the opposite. So the first one

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Speaker 1: she wasn't there for because she was at the Doctor

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Speaker 1: Seus's experience. They didn't have a bathroom there, which I

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Speaker 1: just can't even fathom. And then secondly it happened she

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Speaker 1: was there for the guy I wanted a picture, so

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Speaker 1: I said sure, and then my daughter started crying because

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Speaker 1: it's really not how this works.

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Speaker 2: So hey, this gentleman will inevitably be incarcerated, so let's

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Speaker 1: He's been here Tookey since January seventh, basically, so just

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Speaker 2: But anyday, what's that smell? You're like, Oh, it's just

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Speaker 2: Pelosi's desks. They smeared it all over.

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Speaker 1: Just keep going to just keep going now. To remind everyone,

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Speaker 1: some boxing action, some hard fought boxing action, but nevertheless,

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Speaker 1: there was some good stuff there. There was some redeeming

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Speaker 1: results coming out of that, plus your questions which you submitted,

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Speaker 1: as well as BC's load of feces, which we have

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Speaker 1: not really knew sort of fan made that we just

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Speaker 2: We got really good shit today Luke. I didn't even

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Speaker 2: show that lady doing her Brandy Chastain impersonation after she

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Speaker 1: No more, no more fun bags for the old mk. Huh.

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Speaker 2: I mean we showed Genah Crowno that time twice. I'm

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Speaker 2: Yeah, signs of aging if you will. But it's time

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Speaker 1: Look, yeah, dude, BC walks on the fly and they're like, sir,

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Speaker 2: And you know what people are saying, I should really

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Speaker 1: I knew a kid with jaundys in high school. He

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Speaker 2: Yeah, everybody thought he was scared. Turned out he had

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Speaker 1: Yeah, turned out he was just really sick.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's get this process started. If we can,

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Speaker 1: topic number one, let's get right into it. Of course,

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Speaker 1: a whole lot of difficulty frankly for Bueno Silva BC.

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Speaker 1: So my question to you would be, okay, should her

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Speaker 2: second round and get that finish. Yeah, it's a monster statement.

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Speaker 2: Give her the shot, Luke, give her the damn shot.

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Speaker 2: It is the appropriate matchup. So let's be honest about this.

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Speaker 2: And I was compliced in this laziness. There was this

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Speaker 2: will one forty five, you know, you gotta believe it's done.

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Speaker 2: You have to believe it's done. Moving forward, Let's put

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Speaker 2: you know, vishit Tate's not going to come through that

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Speaker 2: So this is your future. Go the direction here of

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Speaker 2: It's time for new life in this division, because this

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Speaker 2: It's time for new contenders to emerge in a division

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Speaker 2: that unfortunately has been getting shallower the more Amanda has

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, Holly could have brought people in

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Speaker 2: And if we can get a little heat between her

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Speaker 1: Of John did you dip that muggin to get that

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Speaker 1: You're right, You don't have to tell me. Here's what

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Speaker 2: I hand blended this one. It was like a so

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Speaker 2: doesn't matter what color my belt is. You're damn right,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess so. I mean, dude, this fight. Here's

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Speaker 1: the thing about this division, right, It's like Bueno Silva

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Speaker 1: here's the crazy part, right, Ronda has been gone since

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Speaker 2: I believe it was December of sixteen, Luke.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so she gets pasted, hasn't been seen since. And

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Speaker 2: No, it's not, and it's the worst division right now

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Speaker 2: if we don't consider that women's featherweight is an active division,

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Speaker 2: which I don't think it is, so this is the worst.

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Speaker 2: But you do have some names. Not only could you

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Speaker 2: and we're just like, should we keep the division going? No,

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Speaker 2: I can get down with it, Luke, But you know

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Speaker 2: where are you gonna put this fight? You better put

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Speaker 2: Or do you think they go Fight Night Maine with this?

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Speaker 1: That's what I mean.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna ask you the vision. I'm gonna ask you

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Speaker 1: Luke, you don't.

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Speaker 2: Let's say, let's say you checked your DMS right now,

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Speaker 2: know the reasons why you're not dyeing your hair right

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Speaker 2: now while you're still young enough to pull it off, Luke.

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Speaker 2: She wants to know, Luke Thomas. I hear fighters reach

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Speaker 2: out to you. I hear you understand things. What should

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Speaker 1: Right? An exit plan? Right? An exit plan? I mean

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Speaker 1: best boxers, if on the female side. Ever, certainly she

428
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Speaker 1: has been an accomplished MMA fighter. She did great in

429
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Speaker 1: kickboxing as well. This is a combat athlete through and through.

430
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Speaker 1: But at age forty one and she's getting ninja chokes

431
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Speaker 1: standing in the second round of an APEX main event.

432
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Speaker 1: It is pretty clear to me that the division has

433
00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:15,080
Speaker 1: not entirely but the most important parts of it right

434
00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:18,320
Speaker 1: now have either passed her by or are about ton't.

435
00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:21,680
Speaker 1: She has probably not that many fights left. She has

436
00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:24,080
Speaker 1: to decide what she wants out of those one more

437
00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:27,320
Speaker 1: hardcore push for the title, and if that fails, call today,

438
00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:30,639
Speaker 1: Because BC, we know how these stories really go. They

439
00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:33,640
Speaker 1: go from you winning, to you losing, to you losing decisively,

440
00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:37,840
Speaker 1: to you losing decisively and getting ravaged in the process,

441
00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:40,680
Speaker 1: like what you've seen happen to Tony Ferguson since basically

442
00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:43,280
Speaker 1: the Justin Gatschee fight and on right, you want to

443
00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:45,560
Speaker 1: avoid that. So if you're forty one, you have to

444
00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:47,680
Speaker 1: have an honest look in the mirror about where you are.

445
00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:50,119
Speaker 1: I don't think she's completely out of the title picture.

446
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Speaker 1: I'd make one more go of it and then have

447
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Speaker 1: an exit plan.

448
00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:55,120
Speaker 2: Well, you got to do the Misha te rematch if

449
00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:58,480
Speaker 2: you're the UFC. It's a fun second chance, great first fight. Sure,

450
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Speaker 2: But well, here's what's interesting. Were we're writing Holly off

451
00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:04,440
Speaker 2: right now? I don't know if she wants to continue.

452
00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:07,680
Speaker 2: She hasn't fallen off completely. She kind of got caught here, Luke,

453
00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:09,800
Speaker 2: in this submission, if we're being honest, right, she got

454
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Speaker 2: submitted on her feet. She wasn't knocked out. It wasn't

455
00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:15,440
Speaker 2: like she was beaten into exhaustion, and then she tapped out.

456
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Speaker 2: Real question here, Luke, Real question. Let's say Holme had one,

457
00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:23,000
Speaker 2: not excitingly, but had one. How much we of a

458
00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:25,119
Speaker 2: chance would you have given her against whoever would be

459
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Speaker 2: the best in this division? If she was fighting Paynya

460
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Speaker 2: for the title. On Saturday instead of one of Silva,

461
00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:32,760
Speaker 2: you still would have given her a decent shot of winning, right,

462
00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:36,920
Speaker 2: So that's probably the that's the tough spot that she's in. Like, Luke,

463
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna ask you straight up again from the information

464
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Speaker 2: that you know who's the best fighter in this division

465
00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:52,800
Speaker 2: right now? Yeesh, right, yech brother, because you're gonna say Payna, Luke.

466
00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:55,639
Speaker 2: But I'm gonna say, show me the elite wins.

467
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Speaker 1: Show me that it might be one of Silva. It

468
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Speaker 1: might be, it might be if you know what, if

469
00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:06,520
Speaker 1: Kaitlyn Vieira could tighten up some things, She's not far

470
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Speaker 1: from it. Honestly, this is gonna sound stupid, but if

471
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Speaker 1: we just go back to what she's shown, not what

472
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Speaker 1: she did against a Manda Newnas, I will I'm not

473
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Speaker 1: gonna say she's listened to listen to me. I'm not

474
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Speaker 1: saying she's the best, but I think that like using

475
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Speaker 1: that as a gauge for what she's going to show

476
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Speaker 1: in her next fight is probably a bad idea. So yeah,

477
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Speaker 1: somewhere in there, but like this is what I mean, dude,

478
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Speaker 1: We're going to be right back to flyweight, where Flywaight's

479
00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:34,159
Speaker 1: exciting and the guys are highly technical, but you know,

480
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Speaker 1: there's not a huge separation in one regard or the other.

481
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Speaker 1: It feels like that's the case with fly excuse me,

482
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Speaker 1: with women's band some weight, there's not a dramatic difference. Yeah.

483
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Speaker 2: But so to answer your question, the real answer is

484
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Speaker 2: the best bandam weight in the world right now, Luke

485
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Speaker 2: Valentina chief Jenko cool.

486
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Speaker 1: So you think if she loses to Grosso she goes up.

487
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Speaker 2: Yep, and she regains it pretty darn quick, Luke, I

488
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Speaker 2: do I really do?

489
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Speaker 1: I don't think that's I don't think that's yep.

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00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:02,000
Speaker 2: There you go.

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Speaker 1: Interesting. By the way, do you think we're done with

492
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Speaker 1: Holly Holm main events? Do you think that's the end?

493
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Speaker 2: H If they made this the main event, you're damn right.

494
00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,280
Speaker 2: They're gonna make her against Misha and the rematch a

495
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Speaker 2: APEX main event. There's a difference though, between Apex main

496
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:21,800
Speaker 2: events and real fight night main events. I'm gonna get

497
00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:24,560
Speaker 2: off my soapbox. Have I've been saying for five years

498
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Speaker 2: the Holly will fight for another title? We kate pretty close,

499
00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:29,760
Speaker 2: probably should have been this time, she didn't. I'm off

500
00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,640
Speaker 2: of that bet. Will she main event again? You're damn right,

501
00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:36,080
Speaker 2: she will, Luke, but I'll say this against her. I

502
00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,439
Speaker 2: mean the record of, you know, after that stretch of

503
00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,320
Speaker 2: losing to all those elites in big fights, usually title fights,

504
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:45,480
Speaker 2: when she fights second level, I mean, her record's you know,

505
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:49,520
Speaker 2: huge and strong. I still think she gets massive pops

506
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Speaker 2: when I see her at open workouts, press conferences.

507
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Speaker 1: Luke.

508
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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, you could always make the case

509
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Speaker 2: that she's, you know, lived off of one fight and

510
00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:59,920
Speaker 2: made a whole, you know, massive second career out of it,

511
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:02,440
Speaker 2: and that would be incorrect. That would be rude. She's

512
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:06,639
Speaker 2: one fights after that, but she she when you're when

513
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 2: you're a fan favorite like that, get you get the pops.

514
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,120
Speaker 2: The pops are still there, Luke. Her Misha, that would

515
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:12,400
Speaker 2: get the pop, It would get the pop.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Here's who she has lost to. Yep, here's who

517
00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 1: she's lost in the UC and Misha Tate. But that

518
00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,000
Speaker 1: was she was. That was a fight that Tate was

519
00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:23,040
Speaker 1: losing right up until she just basically wasn't the Schevchenko

520
00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:26,120
Speaker 1: fight on Fox Jermaine Durand to me. Then she lost

521
00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:28,359
Speaker 1: a Cyborg and then she lost to Amanda Nunez. Then

522
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:30,119
Speaker 1: she lost to kitlyn Vie and then she lost Tomira.

523
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Speaker 1: But you know, silver Boy, the Brazilians, they have their

524
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:36,919
Speaker 1: way with her. It appears in general, not always, So

525
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,080
Speaker 1: you're asking who's the best in the division? Whoever's left

526
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Speaker 1: of that still in the organization, is really what I

527
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:45,200
Speaker 1: would say. Then some of them moved on or whatever. Yeah. Yeah,

528
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 1: not a great main event. Not by the way, it

529
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Speaker 1: wasn't until one am. I fell asleep. I didn't watch

530
00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,320
Speaker 1: this shit live at all at all. So, by the way,

531
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Speaker 1: I cannot tell hold on, let me just tell the

532
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 1: audience something. I cannot tell you. How many of your

533
00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:00,920
Speaker 1: favorite media members Not not anyone here because we don't

534
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 1: have to, but how many of your favorite media members

535
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:06,760
Speaker 1: right to me on fight night being like, do you

536
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 1: have to cover this shit live? And I'm like, nope,

537
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 1: sure don't. And they're like, oh my god. They just

538
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 1: cannot believe they have this. Can you imagine spending your

539
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 1: Saturday from like seven until one am watching that?

540
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:20,879
Speaker 2: Like that is no no, I mean a ten pm

541
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,399
Speaker 2: start of a six fight main card with no crowd.

542
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 2: That sucks, thank you, UFC. But Luke I did pull

543
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:29,159
Speaker 2: a Luke Thomas. I watched a good portion of the

544
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Speaker 2: main card live but with the volume down in the

545
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 2: a throw headphones on vinyl blasting, so I was unable

546
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:40,640
Speaker 2: to critique Daniel Cormier. But dude, I got a s

547
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 2: load of dms of people who are like ready to

548
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:45,160
Speaker 2: remove DC from the announced booth?

549
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:45,919
Speaker 1: Is that why?

550
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:47,680
Speaker 2: Fair? Unfair? Justified?

551
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 1: Where do you?

552
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 2: Where do you sit on that?

553
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:49,359
Speaker 1: Luke?

554
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,960
Speaker 2: I've said that when you mix in with Rogan you

555
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 2: now get problems. What about DC alone on a fight night, Yan, Yeah,

556
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 2: which we're are so hilariously.

557
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Speaker 1: People found the clip of me and you talking about

558
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:02,120
Speaker 1: this for the post fight show we did for UFC

559
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 1: two ninety being like we didn't like it when Rogan

560
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 1: and DC get together for two reasons. One they kind

561
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 1: of just they're just two podcasts too chummy. And then

562
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 1: two their their mutual lack of understanding of stats, which

563
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 1: is self imposed. I like both gentlemen, but there's really

564
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:18,639
Speaker 1: no argument for otherwise. And then it'd be like, oh,

565
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 1: look at you tube failures in a hotel room, and

566
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:21,879
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, of course, like this is this is

567
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 1: why we're slinging arrows, is because we're decidedly beneath them.

568
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 1: But the point still stands like in those circumstances, I

569
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:30,400
Speaker 1: think there are fair criticisms to make of them. Now.

570
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 1: I didn't watch the entire UFC Vegas would have whatever number.

571
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:37,200
Speaker 1: This was seventy seven event. I watched a good chunk

572
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Speaker 1: of it, and I watched it live. I watched two

573
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 1: or three fights live, ending up on the Komain. I

574
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:47,240
Speaker 1: stopped at the Koman and went to bed. I couldn't

575
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 1: take it anymore. I didn't hear anything outside of what

576
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:56,240
Speaker 1: you normally hear from DC in any kind of dom

577
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 1: cruise pairing. That set off my alarm bells. I don't

578
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:01,960
Speaker 1: know what people are complaining about. I understood the UFC

579
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,639
Speaker 1: two ninety. I will candidly tell you I'm not exactly

580
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 1: sure what they're mad about. This time. Nothing immediately occurred

581
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:09,879
Speaker 1: to me. How about that?

582
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 2: All right? All right, well we'll let let him work,

583
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:14,440
Speaker 2: let him live, Luke, you know what I mean?

584
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, listen. I think these is actually a

585
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,160
Speaker 1: good commentator in the right circumstances.

586
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 2: Personality, great guy, great interview, great fighter. Should they have Yeah?

587
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,160
Speaker 2: When he was refing in the WW they did him

588
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:31,680
Speaker 2: the picture picture them doing him dirty? Look they did right?

589
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:31,879
Speaker 1: You know?

590
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 2: What I mean, vertical stripes on that mack.

591
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 1: So then tell me what are the fans complaining about,

592
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:38,680
Speaker 1: because actually now I'm curious to hear what.

593
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 2: It is they feel like. Well, look, the last card

594
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 2: before this, Luke, he had a bad night. I don't

595
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 2: know if you remember this was that too ninety Yeah? Right, Yeah,

596
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,399
Speaker 2: he had a lot of like where he was in

597
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 2: the middle of a point, the point went nowhere. He

598
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,399
Speaker 2: never finished. It almost sounded as if someone in his

599
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 2: ear was like, you know, end it, and he kind

600
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:01,679
Speaker 2: of just ends it instead of wrapping it up. That

601
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 2: happened like four or five times, you know. I mean, look,

602
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,640
Speaker 2: we do that for this job, for boxing. It's not easy, right.

603
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:09,680
Speaker 2: Sometimes you're watching the action in front of you a person,

604
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 2: Sometimes you're looking at a monitor. Sometimes you're looking at

605
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 2: your stats. Sometimes there's people in your ear. I don't

606
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 2: think he had a good card two cards ago. This

607
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:18,679
Speaker 2: time around, it may have been people just kind of

608
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,159
Speaker 2: now having a more keen eye of whether they like

609
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 2: or don't like him and are picking in. But yeah,

610
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 2: critiques with the analysis saying that he's not going deep enough,

611
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 2: other times saying that what you hear a lot that

612
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:32,160
Speaker 2: the broadcast is favoring one guy, not mentioning what Jack

613
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,679
Speaker 2: Della Madeleine's opponent was doing. Maybe this is a perfect

614
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 2: transition to get into that fight, Luke.

615
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 1: But let me say one thing defending DC if I may,

616
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 1: and it actually like bugs me when I see it.

617
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 1: I see a lot of other fighters being like man,

618
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 1: DC is always is getting after me on the commentary.

619
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, no, he's not. He isn't nearly as

620
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 1: mean or as vicious with his criticism as he could be, certain,

621
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 1: especially for certain fighters who merit it. I actually feel

622
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 1: like he is. I'm not gonna say, kid glove, I

623
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 1: don't think that's true. He doesn't like tiptoe around and

624
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 1: try to be always nice about it. But he's for

625
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 1: the most part, I think when he's got a good

626
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 1: criticism of someone, he sits it right in a fair

627
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 1: tone and in a lane where what they're doing is

628
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 1: really bad. It's not the end of the world. There's

629
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 1: some things they could be doing better, but this is

630
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 1: not great. I see a lot of fighters take issue

631
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 1: with that when they have no grounds to do that

632
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 1: at all at all. To me, DC is very fair

633
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 1: with that kind of stuff.

634
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 2: So what did you think of we'll see and have

635
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 2: you seen the shit? Later when Chelsea Chandler was running

636
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 2: away from Norman Dumont, But did you see where DC was? Like,

637
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 2: I've never seen that before. And then Chelsea Chandler on

638
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 2: Instagram put up the video of DC getting head kicked

639
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 2: from John and running in the other direction. Was that

640
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 2: a fair comeback? If this was so?

641
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 1: This is what I mean? Dude, Like, no, it's not

642
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 1: a fair comeback. What he didn't mean? Of course, you've

643
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 1: seen guys or ladies sprint in certain directions at times,

644
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 1: or you know, kind of stumble and kind of catch.

645
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 1: This looked like someone getting hit turning and like running,

646
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 1: almost as if like the place they were trying to

647
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 1: get to was a mile away, you know what I mean?

648
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:05,719
Speaker 1: And actually I actually thought what Chelsea Chandler did we'll

649
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 1: talk about here in just a minute was pretty smart,

650
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 1: so I actually think it worked out for her. But

651
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 1: what you have to understand is, if you're DC and

652
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 1: you're watching this, it looks absurd in person. It looks

653
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 1: absurd to see someone turn and like full sprint in

654
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 1: a way that's unusual even by fight standards, where people

655
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 1: kind of shuffle or then lean as they move their feet.

656
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 1: Even by that standards, it was unusual. But of course

657
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 1: this is what I mean about the fighters being like incapable,

658
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 1: incapable of listening to Daniel Cormier's in this particular case,

659
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 1: less so criticism, more his bafflement at it without taking

660
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 1: it personally, like you think he really meant that shit personally.

661
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 1: Of course he didn't. They cannot take criticism at all.

662
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 2: They can, yeah, I mean they probably can't, Luke. I

663
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 2: mean what, Yeah, I don't know. I mean, what if

664
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 2: people start making YouTube videos about you? What if they

665
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 2: did a Luke Thomas Reddit page? Luke, would you take

666
00:30:58,080 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 2: that ship personally?

667
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 1: I mean I'm sure it would be awful. But uh,

668
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 1: you can't fight the Internet. You cannot fight.

669
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 2: I mean this is I'm not also can't fight the seeither, Luke, right?

670
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 2: The what the seither? The seither can't fight the seether?

671
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 1: Is this some kind of like doctor seuss onceler reference

672
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 1: that I don't know?

673
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 2: Sorry, Look, I've been waiting for the nineties reference thing

674
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 2: to pop up.

675
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, I mean listen, they're just smoking a bong

676
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 1: in the hitting a bong rather in the in the

677
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 1: in the break room there, Come on, you understand how

678
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 1: this works? All right? All kidding aside, Let's go to

679
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 1: point number two here if we can.

680
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 2: Rucus assault Luke sorry, Rucas rucasolt.

681
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, oh yes, Now I remember that is in

682
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 1: that move. That's like, that's like mid nineties. That's a

683
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 1: little bit different. That's start of the nineties. That was

684
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 1: still good.

685
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 2: That was still the nineties, luc It's just the nineties.

686
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 1: To me, right, No, but ninety eight and ninety two,

687
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 1: I mean it's just six years. But the ethos of

688
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 1: what was going on was radically different between ninety two

689
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 1: and ninety eight. Okay, questioner two b bec we go

690
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 1: right back to you on this one. So you you

691
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 1: had kind of referenced it, now, Jack, Dala Medelena got

692
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 1: it done in the end. It was a split decision.

693
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 1: I didn't think it necessarily needed to be. But here's

694
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 1: what we can say. It was a very very tough

695
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 1: fight against late replacement Basel Hafez. Basso Hafez. Boy, he

696
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 1: showed up big time. Did he not be seen? So

697
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 1: here's my question to you, Dala Medelena didn't fumble it.

698
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 1: He got it done. But there were some questionable decisions.

699
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 1: All the guillotine pull in was really weird, and Bassel

700
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 1: Hafez gave him everything he could handle. How do we

701
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 1: read this? How do we read this for Jack DALEA Meddelana.

702
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 2: I think you have to read it for exactly what

703
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 2: it was, which is not an easy The signment JDM

704
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 2: thought he was going to get I don't want to

705
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 2: even say showcase because it wasn't. He thought he was

706
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 2: going to go on to two ninety, the biggest pay

707
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 2: per review of the year, and take on Sean Brady

708
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 2: in like a massive fight to show exactly where he's at.

709
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 2: You know, that could have been a you know, life

710
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 2: for death type of fight. Then he goes through replacement opponent,

711
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 2: replacement opponent gets sick, he almost fights Chris Curtis, then

712
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 2: he decides to stay in the States to make the

713
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 2: trip worth it. And then on five days notice they

714
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 2: get a dude who has nothing to lose. So this

715
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 2: is one of those weird fights that is very reminiscent.

716
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 2: It's weird to make this boxing crossover to the last

717
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 2: fight of the great Hall of Famer Lennox Lewis's career

718
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 2: or Lennox Lewis I should say when Fatili, When Vitteli

719
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 2: Klitschko came in as a late replacement, and that is

720
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 2: a different circumstance because he had a chip on his shoulder,

721
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 2: literally when he had hurt his shoulder against Chris Bird.

722
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 2: He had pulled out of that fight in mid fight.

723
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 2: People thought he was a worst he's not strong. You

724
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 2: remember what happened. He the X ray showed he would

725
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 2: have lost his shoulder if that fight went on. He

726
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 2: went in there against Lennox Lewis that night and turned

727
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 2: it into a pier six brawl right off the stop.

728
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 2: That's exactly what Jadm's opponent did here. That's why I

729
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 2: don't really hold this against him. He had a tough

730
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 2: wild card opponent that he had no time to prepare for.

731
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 2: You have to understand theircumstances of waiting another week and

732
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 2: this guy came out guns blazing, used up half of

733
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 2: his energy in the first round trying to take JDM down.

734
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 2: You did get to see some in a fit, you know,

735
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 2: some deficiencies exposed in Jack Delamanna, Jack Della Madaline's ground game,

736
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 2: of course, because of how aggressive his opponent was. But Luke,

737
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 2: when your opponent is going to stand with his back

738
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 2: to the cage, as Hafez did multiple times, and just

739
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 2: swing for the fences. You're got a chance of getting

740
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 2: caught if you're Jackie, got a chance of not looking

741
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 2: great because it's so wild. Basically, what I'm saying is

742
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:37,240
Speaker 2: Hafez took his swing, he went all in. He damned

743
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 2: near nearly put himself into positions to pull this off.

744
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, the better fighter

745
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:45,919
Speaker 2: stayed the course, got it done. Can you pick apart

746
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,839
Speaker 2: Jack's ground game, yes, But what he was able to do,

747
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,359
Speaker 2: especially in that third round, was it wasn't a ten

748
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 2: eight car card on anybody round on anybody's card, but

749
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 2: it you know, you could have argued that it could

750
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:59,320
Speaker 2: have been. When given the opportunity to put the fight away,

751
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,720
Speaker 2: I felt that I gave him rounds two and three.

752
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 2: I thought you round one had to go to Hafez.

753
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:08,839
Speaker 2: But Luke, when you're facing somebody who's there to fight,

754
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 2: not going to be easily put away, and is willing

755
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:13,879
Speaker 2: to max out their gas tank in the first half

756
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,880
Speaker 2: of the fight to try to take advantage of that upset,

757
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 2: it's hard not to get lured into that, especially when

758
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:21,880
Speaker 2: you had no time to prepare, So I think this

759
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:23,799
Speaker 2: will go down as a net gain for Jack in

760
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,799
Speaker 2: the long run. It's an experience he endured and survived,

761
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 2: and I think the negatives you can pull out of there,

762
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 2: in my opinion Luke, are not critical, you know, to

763
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 2: slow down his future development. I think in general we

764
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 2: all said, look, he's got to get better on the

765
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 2: ground to equal what he can do on the feet.

766
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:41,839
Speaker 2: I thought, ultimately what he did on the feet here

767
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 2: was fine. Times he was a little bit too wild

768
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:46,319
Speaker 2: because he was pulled into it, but he survived, He

769
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,360
Speaker 2: advanced next opponent, next in line.

770
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 1: So I'm generally going to be complimentary about both guys.

771
00:35:55,920 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 1: So on the Hafez side, man wrote this on Twitter

772
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:02,359
Speaker 1: and I'll repeat it here, which is, you see these

773
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 1: guys who come into these like shorten notse circumstances. And

774
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:09,720
Speaker 1: after the fight, Hafes, seemingly from the hospital, was admitting

775
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:13,240
Speaker 1: that this was an intensely difficult weightcut and of course

776
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 1: didn't have even remotely anything approximating a full camp. He

777
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 1: better even had a week to get ready for that one,

778
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:21,280
Speaker 1: and still went in there and fought a very tough

779
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 1: guy in the very tough circumstances and absolutely gave it

780
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:29,799
Speaker 1: to him. Those circumstances don't tell you exactly how far

781
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:34,280
Speaker 1: Hafez will go. It's not a reliable indicator in that way. However,

782
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:36,879
Speaker 1: what it is reliable as an indicator for is when

783
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 1: shit goes bad for a guy, what can he show you?

784
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:43,319
Speaker 1: And it just goes to show that when Hafez has

785
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 1: a tough weightcut, poor preparation, probably had very little game

786
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 1: plan that was even available to him, you name it,

787
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 1: he still went in there and turned in one hell

788
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 1: of an effort. So I am curious to see what

789
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,280
Speaker 1: he actually can do when the wind is at his back,

790
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:00,839
Speaker 1: rather than what he is doing marching. But at least

791
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 1: we know when he's marching uphill he's going to be

792
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:05,319
Speaker 1: first at the top of it. Pretty interesting to watch that,

793
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 1: That's what I'll say in his defense, and I agree

794
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 1: with you. You know, people think that because you're the

795
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:13,239
Speaker 1: person you know, who's like the higher ranked one or

796
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,360
Speaker 1: the more established one, that even if you take on

797
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:17,840
Speaker 1: someone on short notice, you already had a camp, you

798
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 1: should have been ready, it's not much of a change,

799
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:21,799
Speaker 1: when in fact, it can really trip guys up. I

800
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 1: know that there's a ped calendar that people like to

801
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,400
Speaker 1: ascribe to it. But I was there when John Jones

802
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 1: fought ovin Saint Prux on short notice, and he just

803
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 1: looked really weird. He looked off. It wasn't a great

804
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 1: night for him, and I think it was in part

805
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 1: related to the fact that he had this, you know,

806
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 1: short notice opponent, even though he got the job done,

807
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 1: like Jack Dala Matlanta. But BC, I want to throw

808
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 1: two things back at you. Okay, here's what I did notice.

809
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:43,360
Speaker 1: And it's not to say that this is something he

810
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 1: couldn't get around with game planning, especially in the first case,

811
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 1: but in the second case, I'm a little bit more skeptical. One,

812
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 1: why the fuck did he keep going for the guillotine?

813
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 1: Even his own corner was yelling at him to stop

814
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:01,839
Speaker 1: that shit, even they were clearly like, dude, what in

815
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 1: the fuck are you doing? And he kept going for

816
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 1: it inadvisably over and over. That to me is not

817
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 1: a great sign, although it's hard to say exactly what

818
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 1: that means. But the other one I think I might

819
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:13,359
Speaker 1: get him in trouble a little bit too, is he

820
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:15,840
Speaker 1: loves to throw combinations, which I think are great, but

821
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 1: he doesn't really move a lot in the pocket, does he?

822
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 1: How many times did you see him get tuned up

823
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 1: in the pocket by Hafez just kind of throwing back

824
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 1: whatever he could, Dala Madelena doing the better work. I

825
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 1: don't think there was a scoring controversy, certainly for the

826
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 1: third round, and to me, not even really for the

827
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:34,319
Speaker 1: second round. So he wins fairly. What I'm saying is BC,

828
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 1: how many times did he opened himself up to big

829
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 1: shots by not moving in the pocket. These are things

830
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:44,879
Speaker 1: that I do worry about him taking into his next fight.

831
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 1: Am I being too harsh? No?

832
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 2: Because look, Hafees created chaos. He created abject chaos, Like

833
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 2: I don't hold against Jack in the same way you

834
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 2: do some of his striking reactions there, because it's not

835
00:38:57,719 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 2: going to be off in Luke against an elite foe

836
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 2: that they're gonna come out that level of guns blazing

837
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 2: right like. So I think that he endured that that

838
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 2: unexpected chaos the best he could. And again he was

839
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 2: the fresher fighter late and damn near got a ten

840
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 2: eight down the stretch. Did he stand in front of

841
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 2: this guy too much? Yet? But I also think look

842
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,240
Speaker 2: that I mean Hafez has just thrown home run punches

843
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 2: with his hands down, his chin out. I don't begrudge Jack.

844
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:21,319
Speaker 1: Try all the more reason not to stand in front

845
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 1: of him, Sure, but I.

846
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 2: Also if you're Jack and you're a striker and you're

847
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 2: you're strong in that area, I don't begrudge him a

848
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 2: chance to stand in and try to clock him good.

849
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:33,279
Speaker 2: But but Hafez showed a chin showed him crazy recuperative

850
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 2: skills to keep coming back. I think he just had

851
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 2: an animal in his hand, somebody who has a chance

852
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 2: to be good. Like you said, with a full camp there,

853
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 2: I don't know you can poke in prod. This is

854
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:45,720
Speaker 2: the first time we've seen him in this type of chaos,

855
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 2: this tide. But look, look when you have a run

856
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 2: that he's had. Now, Look, didn't he lose his first

857
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 2: two fights of his pro career, which is really really rare, right, Uh,

858
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 2: let me let me talking about Jdmluke.

859
00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:00,879
Speaker 1: Oh, JDM. Jdm's for yes first two fight, so he's

860
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 1: put together. He got punched out in the third and

861
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 1: punched out in the first.

862
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:08,319
Speaker 2: He's obviously a completely different fighter from those days. He's

863
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 2: put together now a fifteen fight win streak. But on

864
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:14,400
Speaker 2: the majority of this win streak, Luke, he's had massive

865
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 2: striking advantages against these guys where he probably hasn't had

866
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 2: to fight back or dial back or make huge adjustments.

867
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 2: It a wounded animal against him who made him show

868
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 2: you know, made him show his cards earlier than he

869
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 2: wanted to. But Jack wasn't floored. Yes, there's gonna have

870
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:33,919
Speaker 2: to be some ground conversations, but when the corner really

871
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 2: dug in and we're like, like you said, stop going

872
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 2: to the ground. I don't think Jack was aware of

873
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:41,799
Speaker 2: how quickly Hafez, Like Anthony Smith, who who they brought

874
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 2: on the broadcast, having experienced training with Hafez, you know

875
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 2: how quickly Hafez was. Yeah, he was getting guillotine, but

876
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 2: he'd quickly move into side position and improve himself. And

877
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:52,839
Speaker 2: I don't think Jack was onto that. Once they told him, Luke,

878
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:54,719
Speaker 2: he did exactly what they told him.

879
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no no no no no no no, no, dude. Yeah,

880
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:01,399
Speaker 1: when the first time he learned the guillotine, he learned

881
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 1: guillotine defense, I I guarantee it. I guarantee it is.

882
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 2: Well, they're gonna jump to the they're gonna jump cross body.

883
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:12,840
Speaker 1: Dude, there, there's no way he did. Like I understand

884
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 1: the first two times, like, oh wow, that guy he

885
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 1: was quick with it, right, he was really like on

886
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:19,279
Speaker 1: top of it. But the fact that like after the

887
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 1: third time and then you're still doing it in the

888
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 1: second and third rounds, it's like, dude or what not?

889
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 1: There rub but sitting in the second round, dude, what

890
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 1: are we doing? What are we doing?

891
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 2: Well? It's like, look, I make the clitch Go Lewis reference,

892
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 2: which isn't an easy one because we're talking about a

893
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 2: Hall of Famer and vitterli klitch go and at this point,

894
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:36,279
Speaker 2: you know, a former and then future world champion at

895
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,439
Speaker 2: the time he fought Lenox. But my point was Luke

896
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 2: he came in there on short notice and decided to

897
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:43,799
Speaker 2: just jump the gun and give everything he had. And

898
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:45,360
Speaker 2: after that fight, I don't know if you remember that

899
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:47,799
Speaker 2: interview on HBO, Larry Merchant was kind of getting on,

900
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 2: you know, Lenox almost being like this fight, say, you know,

901
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 2: this stoppage saved you, and Lennox is like, do you

902
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 2: see his face? I took his face apart, and I

903
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 2: think the spirit of that argument I'd like to apply

904
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 2: it to Jack, not because I'm overlooking the deficiencies he showed.

905
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 2: But again, it's not often you're going to see this.

906
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 2: It's not often your opponent's going to come out and

907
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:15,359
Speaker 2: risk it all in the first five minutes. Ultimately, Luke,

908
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:17,839
Speaker 2: he listened to his corner, he made the adjustments. It's

909
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 2: going to be up to him now to go back

910
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 2: to the camp and improve on this. Let let's let's

911
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 2: see the next fight on even terms and see what

912
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 2: type of you know, setbacks he's still showing. I guarantee

913
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 2: this will end up being a blessing in disguise, is

914
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 2: really what I'm saying.

915
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 1: I mean, he showed great determination, great metal, great grit

916
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 1: to get hit and to lose some of the bottom position,

917
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 1: then still come out and went on top. I want

918
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 1: to be clear, I'd still am very hot like this

919
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:42,799
Speaker 1: didn't change my opinion on how high I would get

920
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 1: with him, but it was surprising. It was surprising that

921
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 1: he had some of these missteps that I thought were

922
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 1: very easy to counter. Now, b see, let me ask

923
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 1: a question this way. You're Sean Brady and you're watching

924
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:59,319
Speaker 1: this fight, what conclusion do you draw from it.

925
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:04,359
Speaker 2: That I can shoot, shoot and shoot some more, Luke.

926
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously, Sean Brady, coming off of the stoppage

927
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:09,239
Speaker 2: loss to bal Muhammad at the time and the way

928
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 2: that it happened, he's got a lot of questions the

929
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 2: answer regarding his striking to bring it up to that level.

930
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 2: But if they have plans to run this back, and

931
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 2: it really would be a nice pivotal sort of who's coming,

932
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 2: who's going type of moment there in this division. As

933
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:24,400
Speaker 2: much as you're gonna have to show him proved striking,

934
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 2: what Hafez was able to do, I'll like go it again.

935
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 2: Was he forced Jack to show cards early that he's

936
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 2: either never had to before or never expected that he

937
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 2: had to. That's got to give Brady confidence to know

938
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 2: that that Jack's not a finished product on the ground

939
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 2: by any means. And that's an area where Sean Brady thrives.

940
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 2: I think it's got to give him a ton more

941
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 2: confidence coming back to this if they.

942
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 1: Need, Yes, I really agree. I mean, here's the interesting part, right,

943
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:49,439
Speaker 1: Like Sean Brady on the ground to me is better

944
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 1: than halfes. Hafez is good, like Havas is actually very good.

945
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 1: But I do think it's fair to say that Brady's

946
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 1: a little bit better. Okay, However, dude, Halfes was like

947
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 1: bop bop and then on you right, like one two

948
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 1: level change, not fucking around at all, whereas Brady is

949
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 1: obviously more scientific with it. But that's gonna give Dayala

950
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 1: Madelena more opportunities to move on his own, to faint,

951
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 1: to fake, to strike and you know, turn the angle

952
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 1: or whatever. So on the one hand, it's like, if

953
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:18,280
Speaker 1: you're Brady, you must have been like licking your chops

954
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:19,919
Speaker 1: once the fight got to the ground, been like, dude,

955
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 1: I could do that. I could do that. I could

956
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:24,240
Speaker 1: do that. On the other hand, just speaking realistically, Hafez

957
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 1: was just bulldozing his way through in ways that we

958
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:29,919
Speaker 1: just haven't seen Brady do. But it's an interesting thing.

959
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 1: I I hope I love your IDEABC. I really hope

960
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:36,399
Speaker 1: they'd run that one back. I hope they do. Dala

961
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 1: Maddelena versus Sean Brady. I like what. I like what

962
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 1: each guy brings to the other one as a way

963
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 1: of being like, we know you've got weaknesses in these directions,

964
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 1: What can you say about it when we give you

965
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:49,319
Speaker 1: a specialist in that regard? Fun fight still fun fight,

966
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 1: if they make it.

967
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 2: Indeed. I mean, look, there's gonna be people that are

968
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:54,439
Speaker 2: going to be like the the Hypeespin exposed all that, Luke.

969
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:56,840
Speaker 2: I mean, look, you could be near perfect, but someone's

970
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:58,799
Speaker 2: oway on the internet is going to focus on the

971
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:01,359
Speaker 2: one thing you screwed up. I'm not here to tell

972
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 2: you that you should do anything but continue to buy

973
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:07,399
Speaker 2: stock in Jack delement A Lant. It's not without key

974
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:09,840
Speaker 2: instructions and areas he knows he needs to work. But

975
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 2: it's still early, Luke. He was about to fight the

976
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 2: you know, a ranked guy top the skuy he could face.

977
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:17,360
Speaker 2: I'm still in that direction that he can be that dude.

978
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:20,400
Speaker 1: Okay, very good. Let's go to point number three here

979
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 1: if we can be c on the rest of this

980
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:25,319
Speaker 1: UFC Vegas car, there were some standouts, there were some

981
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 1: interesting fights along the way, and there was some good

982
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:30,280
Speaker 1: results and some bad ones too. So BC, for any reason,

983
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 1: good or bad, who else s diod out to you

984
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:33,280
Speaker 1: from this card on Saturday?

985
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 2: Well, I gotta mention that normal Dumont Chelsea Chandler fight

986
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:37,880
Speaker 2: Luke and not that Chelsea Chandler of the two to

987
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 2: nine is a world beater in this division. Or not

988
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 2: that there's even a division anymore. This very well could

989
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:46,359
Speaker 2: have been the last fight in one hundred and forty

990
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 2: five pound history. We have no idea what's going on

991
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 2: moving forward, but Norma Dumont threw a uh what turned

992
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:55,280
Speaker 2: into a juicy little bit of a last minute rivalry

993
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 2: between these two. I don't know if you saw some

994
00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:59,799
Speaker 2: of the shoving and middle fingers backstage at the way

995
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 2: and between these two. There was extra sort of energy

996
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:06,400
Speaker 2: into this fight, and Dumont just looked like the more professional,

997
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 2: more pinpoint fighter. But Luke, she had whether it was

998
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 2: you know, created by the trash talk or not, she

999
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:16,319
Speaker 2: had some backbone, some spite to her offense, and she

1000
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:21,800
Speaker 2: dominated this fight against someone who was there to survive

1001
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:23,919
Speaker 2: and try to create a big moment. So I give

1002
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 2: a credit to Chandler for taking the clean beating and

1003
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 2: continue to coming. But Dumont was clinical and she looked

1004
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:32,920
Speaker 2: like a title contender, and to her credit, Luke, she

1005
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 2: tried her best afterwards to say UFC like, I'm still here,

1006
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 2: I'm still winning fights. Obviously, Luke, there's no division. Who

1007
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:43,239
Speaker 2: is she gonna fight? I don't even know if she

1008
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:44,840
Speaker 2: fights in the UFC again, I don't know if she

1009
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 2: can make thirty five. I don't know anything about the future.

1010
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 2: But what I do know Delta a bad hand here.

1011
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 2: More or less, Dumont came out and was one of

1012
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:53,759
Speaker 2: the biggest winners of the night. Without question.

1013
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree that was. And by the way, like

1014
00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 1: you know, credit to Chelsea Chandler. She got rocked. Then

1015
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 1: she ran to the fence, which again I'm just gonna say, hey,

1016
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 1: it bought her time. Everyone's like everyone was clowning her

1017
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:06,760
Speaker 1: for it because it looked goofy and it looked goofy.

1018
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 2: Okay, fair enough, tough as shit, tough as.

1019
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:12,920
Speaker 1: Tough as fucking shoe leather to come back and then

1020
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 1: like stay in that fight for as long as she did.

1021
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 1: I mean, I think went to a decision. So, like

1022
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 1: you know, that was the first round right where she

1023
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 1: got drilled that way, if I recall, maybe it was

1024
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 1: the second and most I think it was the first. Anyway,

1025
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:24,279
Speaker 1: I agree with you. I thought that she showed great

1026
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:27,880
Speaker 1: uh toughness, but the skills issue, ultimately, I think is

1027
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 1: what hurt her. And I don't know what the hell

1028
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:31,840
Speaker 1: they're gonna do with one forty five BC. How about

1029
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:35,920
Speaker 1: this name we should remember. How about JUNIONG. Park. Juniorong

1030
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 1: Park defeated Albert Deryav, which is not necessarily some grand surprise,

1031
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:43,840
Speaker 1: but Dearav came out and looked good really early. He

1032
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 1: took the fight to Junior Young Park, rocked the shit

1033
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 1: out of him, and just like in the Chandler fight U,

1034
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:51,959
Speaker 1: Junior Young Park had to come back, get his wits

1035
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 1: about him, and then he ends up winning in the

1036
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 1: end in round two via rear naked choke. Dude, listen

1037
00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 1: to his wind streak at this point. Junior Park, of course,

1038
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 1: obviously had a south able with the last name like Park.

1039
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:03,320
Speaker 1: Thirty two years of age, so not exactly a youngster,

1040
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 1: now exactly a youngster. In his last four fights, he's

1041
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:09,239
Speaker 1: beaten your boy, Eric Anders, Joseph Holmes. I don't know

1042
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:11,759
Speaker 1: who that is, Dennis Chulian. I don't know how i'd

1043
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:13,880
Speaker 1: pronounce his last name. So you know, a couple of

1044
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 1: wins there, The Eric Anders one is good, a couple

1045
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 1: of the names there that aren't necessarily huge. But Deraiev,

1046
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:22,799
Speaker 1: while flawed, is still very, very talented. And again I'm

1047
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 1: gonna point it out one more time. Started out with

1048
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 1: an early lead really hurting this guy, and he came

1049
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 1: back and put it on him. Dude, you can start

1050
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:34,279
Speaker 1: giving Park some real tough fighters. Now. He proved a

1051
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:36,319
Speaker 1: lot with this win. I love what I saw from

1052
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:40,240
Speaker 1: him both here and here. Good fighter, great win, tough

1053
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:42,920
Speaker 1: test and he answered it, love.

1054
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:44,839
Speaker 2: It yeah, and then he'd like you, I mean, dude,

1055
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 2: he looked like he was about to be knocked out

1056
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:50,359
Speaker 2: on two hardcore occasions there so to be able to

1057
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:54,239
Speaker 2: show that type of resiliency in poise and pull it off.

1058
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 2: In fact, Luke, I went up to use the restroom

1059
00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:58,799
Speaker 2: thinking that, you know, this guy was on his way

1060
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 2: deraiev to you know, me making maybe a hammer in

1061
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 2: my cupboard behind me. And I come back and Parks

1062
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 2: got his hand raised, and it's like, what, ye did

1063
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:10,920
Speaker 2: a whole fault? Did Zuck come in and tab somebody out?

1064
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 1: Look?

1065
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:12,839
Speaker 2: What did a hole open up in the cage? What

1066
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 2: did the sarlac pit come back? Luke? I don't know,

1067
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:17,439
Speaker 2: but no, he got the job done there.

1068
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 1: I don't.

1069
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 2: I mean, how much should we be raving about some

1070
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:22,800
Speaker 2: of these wins, Luke? There was there was It was

1071
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 2: hard to find a ranked fighter on here, like dude,

1072
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:27,919
Speaker 2: Francisco Prato took it to Ozitar.

1073
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:30,879
Speaker 1: But like, yeah, I don't stoppage was a little bit weird. Also, BC,

1074
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:34,319
Speaker 1: we should probably mention something about the stoppage in the

1075
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:36,880
Speaker 1: case of the Terrence McKinney fight, because he took to Twitter,

1076
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 1: so he loses to Nazim Satakov and he eventually gets

1077
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 1: choked out. So there's nothing that the choke itself was fine.

1078
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 1: There was no issue there. The issue was in the

1079
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 1: first and second rounds. And I actually take Terence McKinney's

1080
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 1: side on this one. He notes that he actually showed

1081
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:54,440
Speaker 1: the video where Satakov has his hand on the fence.

1082
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:56,319
Speaker 1: Now one more time for folks who don't know, you

1083
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 1: can touch the fence with your hand. Which you cannot

1084
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 1: do is grip webbing of it. You cannot actually put

1085
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 1: your hand through that way. So I'll have to tell

1086
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:06,799
Speaker 1: people if you want, make a closed fist and use

1087
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:09,319
Speaker 1: that to push against the fence rather than your hand.

1088
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 1: To avoid any issue with the referee and Keith Peterson,

1089
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 1: you see him try to swat the hand away, which

1090
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:16,279
Speaker 1: is common and I think allowed in almost every jurisdiction,

1091
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 1: whether or not that has an enumerated rule on the

1092
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 1: bylaws that the referees have. Here's my point. You watch

1093
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 1: him do it. I don't mind the referee swatting the

1094
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 1: hand away if it works pretty quickly, right, But this

1095
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:29,759
Speaker 1: goes on for like a little while where he's still

1096
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 1: like banging on it a little bit like he's playing

1097
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 1: whack a mole. And then the whole time Terrence McKinney

1098
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:36,839
Speaker 1: is underneath this guy solidifies his position. My point being,

1099
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 1: is the whole point about smacking someone's hands that has

1100
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:42,319
Speaker 1: to work quickly because if it doesn't, and then they're

1101
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:44,799
Speaker 1: able to hold onto that while something changes underneath them,

1102
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:50,800
Speaker 1: it now just turns into the referee facilitating the grabbers advantages.

1103
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 1: I don't like that at all. I think Terrence McKinney's right.

1104
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:56,360
Speaker 2: Actually, so what this goes for all combat sports? You

1105
00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:58,399
Speaker 2: do realize like the amount of time put in by

1106
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:01,239
Speaker 2: these referees to stay their case. They go into the

1107
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 2: locker room before each fight, tell each fighters here's the

1108
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 2: things I'm looking for, here's the things don't do. Like

1109
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:09,239
Speaker 2: they get full instructions in the locker room in the

1110
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:10,920
Speaker 2: back in front of the fighter and their team, and

1111
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 2: then obviously they you know, sometimes run through them when

1112
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:15,919
Speaker 2: they're touching gloves before the start of the fight, Luke,

1113
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:17,919
Speaker 2: I don't. It's the same debate I think we had

1114
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 2: on the last episode about or on Monday shit or

1115
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:23,440
Speaker 2: I don't know when we did it, Luke, about herb

1116
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 2: Dean and those twelve six elbows sort of like constantly

1117
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 2: giving counsel of the fighter. No, not like that, well,

1118
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 2: not like that. I mean, these fighters know the rules, Luke,

1119
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:36,280
Speaker 2: their team knows the rules. Give a warning, happens again.

1120
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 2: You're in your right to you know what I'm saying,

1121
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:43,320
Speaker 2: depending on the egregiousness of the offense, or give multiple warnings.

1122
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 2: But the whole point is you playing this cat and

1123
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 2: mouse game. It's almost like I'm gonna keep getting away

1124
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 2: with this every time he sees me and he slaps it.

1125
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:52,360
Speaker 2: The best way to get rid of that is a

1126
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:54,800
Speaker 2: real slap, Luke, which is the threat and the eventual

1127
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:57,920
Speaker 2: takeaway of a point that would clean that shit up quickly?

1128
00:51:57,920 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 2: Would it not.

1129
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:01,799
Speaker 1: Exactly what they should have done? You can, you can

1130
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:03,480
Speaker 1: even leave him in position if you want, but you're

1131
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 1: taking a point right then and there.

1132
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:06,839
Speaker 2: Have you ever see these parents or young kids, Luke,

1133
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:09,320
Speaker 2: They're like my child won't eat. They just won't eat anything.

1134
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:12,759
Speaker 2: They're so picky. Did you ever try intimidating them and

1135
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 2: forcing it into their mouth? Luke?

1136
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:16,920
Speaker 1: All right, yeah, I mean I don't know about you.

1137
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:19,359
Speaker 1: I try not to feed Tookey like she is a

1138
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 1: political prisoner at Guantan and we have to do forced

1139
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 1: rectal feedings. No, I don't No, I mean.

1140
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:28,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't go there, Larry, But thank you.

1141
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 1: That's a real thing. That's a real thing that happened

1142
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:35,720
Speaker 1: to get prisoners got forced rectal feeding. Don't want to know, Luke, Yeah, okay,

1143
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 1: two more notes very quickly on this one. BC Eileen

1144
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 1: Perez beat the fucking bags off of Ashley Evan Smith.

1145
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 1: Holy shit, that was bad thirty twenty five on some

1146
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:47,880
Speaker 1: of those scorecards, I believe. Also, did you see the

1147
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:50,240
Speaker 1: elbow dislocate on Istella Nunez.

1148
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:55,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty all these moments that you're referencing directly and indirectly, Luke,

1149
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:57,480
Speaker 2: you'll see on have you seen this shipping getting very

1150
00:52:57,520 --> 00:53:00,319
Speaker 2: good torking that thang? Luke, Right, that's a new thing

1151
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:02,359
Speaker 2: in the cage. Now, that's what we do when we win, Luke.

1152
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 1: We listen. I wasn't even looking at pornography on Saturday,

1153
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 1: and I still had a lot of TNA on the timeline.

1154
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:10,319
Speaker 1: I wasn't I wasn't fighting it. I wasn't fighting it.

1155
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:13,600
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. All Right, all right, seem

1156
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:16,200
Speaker 1: it seems self seems self defeating to be like enough

1157
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:18,319
Speaker 1: of these titties, like I was just gonna let it rock,

1158
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:23,439
Speaker 1: you know. All right, Let's go to point number four.

1159
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 1: If we can here we go.

1160
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:27,280
Speaker 2: Should be a luke that should be a t shirt.

1161
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:30,200
Speaker 2: Enough of these titties with the MK logo bull Enough of.

1162
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 1: These I'm sick of them. I mean, who is that guy?

1163
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:34,840
Speaker 1: Like you remember when women started wearing yoga pants and

1164
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 1: there was guys complaining. I'm like, dude, shut the fuck up.

1165
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:41,319
Speaker 1: Like there, who the fuck would complain about this? This

1166
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 1: is a win for everybody. Shut your mouth, Shut your mouth,

1167
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:47,840
Speaker 1: all right? Point number four. If I can, BC, Tom

1168
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:50,360
Speaker 1: Aspinall is fighting this weekend. The UFC is returning to

1169
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 1: London now, BC. It's interesting the ticket sales up to

1170
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 1: this point have been somewhat lackluster. There's a few reasons

1171
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:57,839
Speaker 1: for that. There's no Patty Pimblet on the car, who,

1172
00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 1: of course, is one of the biggest stars. That's noteworthy.

1173
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 1: It's a fight in that card. It's not a pay

1174
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 1: per view, so we have a lot of the other

1175
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:06,279
Speaker 1: stars that would ordinarily be there. I'm also told that

1176
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 1: the pricers are high and that inflation is still kind

1177
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 1: of bad in the UK relative to the United States,

1178
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:13,480
Speaker 1: and so the ticket sales have been somewhat lacking. But

1179
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 1: that's really not what I wanted to focus on BC. Instead,

1180
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 1: it is the return of tom Aspinall. Yes, he is back.

1181
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 1: He's fighting marching Taibora now BC. Here's why I bring

1182
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:26,239
Speaker 1: this up. He has not fought in a year, which

1183
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:28,359
Speaker 1: was the very short little thing he had against Curtis

1184
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:32,920
Speaker 1: Blade that went, you know, dead before it ever got alive. Really,

1185
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 1: and he hasn't won a fight in sixteen months going

1186
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:42,000
Speaker 1: back to Volkov. So tell me, with a win on Saturday,

1187
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 1: is Tom Aspinall really on the cusp of a title shot.

1188
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 2: I think he is. I think he is Luke. But

1189
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 2: but here's the deal though, it comes down to timing.

1190
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:55,439
Speaker 2: If Stepe is next, if we're under the assumption, which

1191
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 2: you or not, that John stays, then that would probably

1192
00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:01,239
Speaker 2: mean that Sergey Pavlovitch stays. I until he gets a

1193
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:04,440
Speaker 2: chance at the winner. Maybe I'm wrong, it would be

1194
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:07,799
Speaker 2: the shot after that. But Luke, you also if Tom

1195
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 2: Aspinall wins on Saturday and does so, you know, in

1196
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:14,640
Speaker 2: triumphant homecoming fashion, let's say even with a finish. Let's

1197
00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:17,280
Speaker 2: not forget by the way though, that his opponent to Burrow,

1198
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:20,440
Speaker 2: despite being thirty seven, which isn't ancient at heavyweight, has

1199
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:22,880
Speaker 2: won seven of his last eight. This is a big

1200
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:25,879
Speaker 2: step up moment for him just the same. But yeah, dude,

1201
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:29,239
Speaker 2: if Aspinall goes out there and finishes him, do you

1202
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:31,479
Speaker 2: do you? I don't know. You spin this on me? Yes,

1203
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:34,279
Speaker 2: I say he's in the title picture because of this.

1204
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 2: That's a huge market there in the UK that they've

1205
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:38,759
Speaker 2: gone back to many times. They want to star. They

1206
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:40,600
Speaker 2: want to star there in Europe that they can build

1207
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:43,640
Speaker 2: upon in this division. Aspinall is that dude, as long

1208
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 2: as he can come back and the knee's not an issue.

1209
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:48,959
Speaker 2: Would you put him in against Padlovich, Luke, or would

1210
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:54,239
Speaker 2: you kind of keep both either busy in ways they

1211
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:56,399
Speaker 2: should win or I mean, what do you do? Because Luke,

1212
00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 2: you know it, this division is kind of shallow. He's

1213
00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:02,080
Speaker 2: got a name a big following. If he wins, he's

1214
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:04,440
Speaker 2: in it. But does he have to go through Sergey

1215
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 2: Pavlovitch to get there?

1216
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:07,879
Speaker 1: I kind of feel like he does. I will tell

1217
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:12,759
Speaker 1: you what I mean. Here's here's my only issue. BC.

1218
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 1: The win over Volkov was so clean, so nice, It

1219
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:20,000
Speaker 1: just did so many things right, You're like, holy shit, man,

1220
00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:24,239
Speaker 1: Like had he beaten Curtis Blades, there would be no

1221
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:26,560
Speaker 1: question in my mind. But you know, I don't fault

1222
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 1: him for losing in that sense. I mean, it ended

1223
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:31,240
Speaker 1: on injury before it ever got started. Just a terrible

1224
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:34,799
Speaker 1: set of circumstances. But we didn't get an answer. And

1225
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:38,000
Speaker 1: beating Marching tay Bora, if that were to happen on Saturday,

1226
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:41,239
Speaker 1: does not answer that question either. Quite frankly, like, you're

1227
00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:42,759
Speaker 1: really gonna tell me we're gonna give a title shot.

1228
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 1: I know he has more wins than this, but the

1229
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:47,480
Speaker 1: last two being Volkov and Marching tai Bora, that gets

1230
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:50,640
Speaker 1: you a fight against potentially John Jones. I just don't

1231
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:52,120
Speaker 1: believe that. Sorry, I don't. I don't buy that.

1232
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:54,560
Speaker 2: I think not even with but look, not even with

1233
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:57,120
Speaker 2: the UK factor. You don't think so that if they

1234
00:56:57,120 --> 00:57:00,360
Speaker 2: put that in the UK John Jones against Tom Aspernall Wembley,

1235
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:02,000
Speaker 2: come on, Luke suck.

1236
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:04,040
Speaker 1: Well, they wouldn't do that, wouldn't do Wembley because that

1237
00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:06,000
Speaker 1: would require them to try, which I guess they don't

1238
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 1: really want to do these days. So it wouldn't be there,

1239
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:10,920
Speaker 1: but it'd be at the O two, which would be big. Yeah,

1240
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 1: you could do it, You could do it. You could

1241
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:14,759
Speaker 1: certainly do it. There's no denying that you could. If

1242
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:17,240
Speaker 1: he goes in there and like reasserts himself against marching

1243
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:19,439
Speaker 1: Taborr and just blows the doors off of him, which

1244
00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:22,200
Speaker 1: by the way, is on the table, I think you

1245
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 1: could go back to London and put a fight there.

1246
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:25,760
Speaker 1: So yes, but that's really not my point. My point

1247
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:27,520
Speaker 1: being is that would not be a great test to

1248
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:29,919
Speaker 1: see actually how well he would do. There's a couple

1249
00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:32,240
Speaker 1: guys at that very top. Blades is one of them.

1250
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:35,160
Speaker 1: I think Padlovich is another one. Gone is another one.

1251
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:37,400
Speaker 1: You need to beat one of those three in my

1252
00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:39,439
Speaker 1: mind to really be that guy who's at the top.

1253
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:41,200
Speaker 1: So what I'm saying to you is, when I look

1254
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:44,320
Speaker 1: at tape, do I think Tom Aspinall is crazy talented? Yes,

1255
00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 1: of course I do. I think he's very talented and

1256
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:48,720
Speaker 1: I am so happy that he's back. I think the

1257
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:50,480
Speaker 1: division needs it. I think he's going to be great

1258
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:54,360
Speaker 1: for the UK. There's nothing bad about this. Rather, if

1259
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:56,000
Speaker 1: he goes in there and like, let's say he submits

1260
00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 1: Tabora like he did Volkov relatively quickly into the Boves

1261
00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:01,000
Speaker 1: at the first round, I believe it second at worst.

1262
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:02,600
Speaker 1: You know, are you really going to be like, wow,

1263
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:05,040
Speaker 1: he's we know for a fact what he's got to offer.

1264
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:09,200
Speaker 1: John Jones like, no, you clearly don't. Pavlovitch. There's obviously

1265
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:11,680
Speaker 1: some that's still unknown. But I would feel much more

1266
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:14,800
Speaker 1: at ease knowing he A had proved it with the

1267
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:18,600
Speaker 1: wins and b had shown a much fuller sense of

1268
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:21,000
Speaker 1: his game, including with the initial loss to over him.

1269
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:23,520
Speaker 1: It just seems like you're just risking Tom aspinall up there.

1270
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:26,200
Speaker 1: Maybe he performs, maybe he shows you it wasn't right,

1271
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:27,760
Speaker 1: it wasn't quite ready for the opportunity.

1272
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:33,000
Speaker 2: Let's not do aspinall against against what's his name, Luke

1273
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:36,520
Speaker 2: the Killer. If he wins here, you do mention interesting

1274
00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:38,800
Speaker 2: things about who's still left in this division, who still

1275
00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:41,280
Speaker 2: needs to prove themselves? So let's talk about it, Luke,

1276
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:43,840
Speaker 2: John Jones. The champion is going to face number three

1277
00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:46,560
Speaker 2: steep A mio Chich. Sergey Pavlovitch is the guy, the

1278
00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:48,960
Speaker 2: other one deserving. What do you think about number four

1279
00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:52,160
Speaker 2: Curtis Blades coming off a loss going up against number

1280
00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:55,240
Speaker 2: seven Alexander Volkov coming coming off a win in a

1281
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:58,240
Speaker 2: rematch of a fight that Blades dominated early and then

1282
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:01,640
Speaker 2: really had to had a whole late through exhaustion to

1283
00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:04,320
Speaker 2: hang on. Do you like that four versus seven Blades

1284
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:06,160
Speaker 2: Aspinall or bad Blades Volkov?

1285
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 1: Sure? I think Blades has to get wins like that

1286
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:15,400
Speaker 1: by virtue of the losses that he accrus at times. Yes.

1287
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 1: Then we have number six ti Volkov is fighting Twi

1288
00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:20,680
Speaker 1: Ivasa in Sydney. Should be noted.

1289
00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:23,640
Speaker 2: Okay, that's it. I thought Tyvasa was fighting Spevak. So

1290
00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:27,200
Speaker 2: you got Speedvac at eight, Luke, You've got Jelton Almeida

1291
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:29,120
Speaker 2: at nine, which is a name we obviously have to

1292
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:32,880
Speaker 2: keep close. Ty Burrow here at number ten, Aspinall at five.

1293
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:35,320
Speaker 2: So Cyril gone, Luke, what are we doing with him

1294
00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:38,400
Speaker 2: in this scenario? Tom Aspinall's got this fight. We'll talk

1295
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:39,920
Speaker 2: about it this week on how he can win it

1296
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:41,920
Speaker 2: or with the matchup states. But we're talking about the

1297
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:47,000
Speaker 2: larger heavyweight picture. How about Gon Pavlovitch.

1298
00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:52,080
Speaker 1: Then gone, Pavlovitch, you could do that, You could do that. Sure,

1299
00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:53,960
Speaker 1: you still have to figure out what to do with

1300
00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:55,320
Speaker 1: Aspinall if he wins here.

1301
00:59:56,440 --> 00:59:58,840
Speaker 2: Okay, well, this is what I'm doing. I'm making dance

1302
00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:01,280
Speaker 2: partners here, okay, right right in front of your eyes.

1303
01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:07,800
Speaker 2: So Almeida, eh wow, Then again you're doing that thing

1304
01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:10,760
Speaker 2: where you have two red hot potential title challenges, right

1305
01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:11,400
Speaker 2: all right, right.

1306
01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:13,600
Speaker 1: And you're just saying against I'm just saying if Aspenall

1307
01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:15,960
Speaker 1: goes in there and just blows the doors off of Taboro, right,

1308
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:18,120
Speaker 1: let's just say he does that. I'm not saying I'm

1309
01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:19,720
Speaker 1: calling for this fight or I even think it's a

1310
01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:22,000
Speaker 1: good idea for the division's sake, But like, just as

1311
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:25,439
Speaker 1: a fight on fight terms, Aspenall versus Almeida sounds fun

1312
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:27,600
Speaker 1: as shit. I mean, it just sounds really great, you know.

1313
01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:31,040
Speaker 2: Interesting. I don't know if Spiedack I thought he has

1314
01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:32,280
Speaker 2: a fight coming up, Luke doesn't he.

1315
01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:35,240
Speaker 1: I do not know about Spivac. Maybe one of our

1316
01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:38,040
Speaker 1: intrepid producers can let us know. But he has also

1317
01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:40,720
Speaker 1: obviously been on the rise of late as well. He

1318
01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:42,960
Speaker 1: has turned things around for his career in a dramatic

1319
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:46,920
Speaker 1: way too so. But Blades versus Almaida is targeted for November.

1320
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:48,200
Speaker 1: Blades Almada November.

1321
01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:49,240
Speaker 2: I love that.

1322
01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:52,840
Speaker 1: That's a tough one. I love that fight, dude, kind

1323
01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:58,200
Speaker 1: of Blades only fights fucking tough ass unenviable tasks over

1324
01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:00,520
Speaker 1: and over and over again. It really is amazing what

1325
01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:01,280
Speaker 1: he's willing to do.

1326
01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:03,800
Speaker 2: Okay for not being a deep division at the moment,

1327
01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:08,720
Speaker 2: after John Stepe, we still have unproven yet. We need

1328
01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:11,240
Speaker 2: to see them guys ready for huge either title fights

1329
01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:16,200
Speaker 2: or number one contender fights. In Pavlovich, Aspinaffie wins on

1330
01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:21,520
Speaker 2: Saturday and Johnson Almada have three rising wild cards and

1331
01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:25,280
Speaker 2: old guard representatives now in Cyril Gone, Curtis Blades, who

1332
01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:27,600
Speaker 2: still you know, you can't you can't say they're done

1333
01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:30,360
Speaker 2: making a run at the title. No, it's not awful

1334
01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:32,080
Speaker 2: right now. It's not a deep division. It's not one

1335
01:01:32,120 --> 01:01:34,800
Speaker 2: of the best divisions in the sport, but not bad,

1336
01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:35,440
Speaker 2: not bad.

1337
01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:38,760
Speaker 1: If we can get a couple of those elite pairings

1338
01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:41,240
Speaker 1: we haven't gotten yet. I think we'll have some really

1339
01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:45,160
Speaker 1: really fun heavyweight fights and some strong contenders emerge. Okay,

1340
01:01:45,200 --> 01:01:48,280
Speaker 1: do we see do we see Lojacking gone versus Spivak

1341
01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:50,080
Speaker 1: main eventing to Paris in September?

1342
01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:52,120
Speaker 2: Okay, so this shows what an idiot I am trying

1343
01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:54,600
Speaker 2: to put God in there against Pavlovich when it was

1344
01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:56,840
Speaker 2: the Spevak fight that was already announced. That's obviously a

1345
01:01:56,840 --> 01:01:59,120
Speaker 2: big So. Look, that's interesting because Speedback is in the

1346
01:01:59,160 --> 01:02:02,160
Speaker 2: top ten and he's his stock is high. At the

1347
01:02:02,160 --> 01:02:05,520
Speaker 2: moment God wins that you're not guaranteed a ton of

1348
01:02:05,520 --> 01:02:07,800
Speaker 2: shot considering the depth at the top here.

1349
01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:11,800
Speaker 1: Right, well, I mean, do you deserve one? Like the

1350
01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:16,240
Speaker 1: the egg that he laid against John Jones was so bad, dude,

1351
01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:17,120
Speaker 1: so bad?

1352
01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:20,360
Speaker 2: Then what about then? Am I seeing the future? Right?

1353
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:22,320
Speaker 2: Am I gonna end up seeing Serol Gone against Tom

1354
01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:24,680
Speaker 2: aspinall and a in a main event in the UK?

1355
01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:25,520
Speaker 2: Coming up? Is that what?

1356
01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:28,360
Speaker 1: I'm France? France versus England. That's a that's a fun

1357
01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:30,720
Speaker 1: that's a fun rivalry. Yeah, I like that one.

1358
01:02:30,760 --> 01:02:32,880
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, that's our We figured it out, thank you.

1359
01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:34,120
Speaker 2: It took us a while and figured it out.

1360
01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:36,439
Speaker 1: Could be fun, could be fun, all right? See last

1361
01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:37,760
Speaker 1: but not least, let's talk a little bit on the

1362
01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:40,880
Speaker 1: on the BOXO side, boy, I tell you what, I

1363
01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:43,000
Speaker 1: tell you what. The ghost got it done, but it

1364
01:02:43,120 --> 01:02:47,040
Speaker 1: was not easy. Frank Martin wins over our Tim Harritunian.

1365
01:02:47,120 --> 01:02:51,960
Speaker 1: But BC, the Armenian German, Now we'll talk about the

1366
01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:54,480
Speaker 1: end of the fight where he voluntarily took a knee.

1367
01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:57,600
Speaker 1: He kinda he kind of he had the he he

1368
01:02:57,960 --> 01:03:00,959
Speaker 1: ended this fight the opposite way he started in my mind, BC,

1369
01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:04,680
Speaker 1: So let me ask you. It still was very tough

1370
01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:07,240
Speaker 1: for Frank Martin, who got it done. But was the

1371
01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:09,920
Speaker 1: issue that the Armenian was more skilled than we gave

1372
01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:13,520
Speaker 1: him credit for? Did Martin look off? What was the issue?

1373
01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:15,200
Speaker 1: Why did Martin struggle to fight that we thought he

1374
01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:15,920
Speaker 1: was going to cruise?

1375
01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:19,200
Speaker 2: I thought, first of all, without question, Hartunian was better

1376
01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:21,240
Speaker 2: than we thought coming in. But there's a reason why

1377
01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:24,520
Speaker 2: we had these questions, right, not a household name never

1378
01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:27,880
Speaker 2: fought in the US before. Armenian born but raised in Germany,

1379
01:03:27,960 --> 01:03:29,880
Speaker 2: fought all of his profights in Germany. He just had

1380
01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:32,320
Speaker 2: seventeen of them coming in. But what did he show

1381
01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:37,280
Speaker 2: us that along with being quicker and more accurate than

1382
01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:40,120
Speaker 2: I'm sure Frank Martin thought he had a chin on him.

1383
01:03:40,120 --> 01:03:41,800
Speaker 2: That There were key moments, including the end of the

1384
01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:43,960
Speaker 2: sixth round, where it looked like Frank Martin was about

1385
01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:46,400
Speaker 2: to put it together and turn back into the ghost

1386
01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:50,360
Speaker 2: right and just absolutely float through there. But what Hartunian

1387
01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:54,040
Speaker 2: did by not going anywhere in those hard moments was

1388
01:03:54,040 --> 01:03:57,440
Speaker 2: he stood right in front of Frank but Luke sneaky

1389
01:03:57,680 --> 01:04:02,200
Speaker 2: head movement, sneaky footworks like he looked like a veteran

1390
01:04:02,280 --> 01:04:05,760
Speaker 2: technician in there. In what that accomplished, I don't think

1391
01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:07,600
Speaker 2: anyone's ever done this on the pro level of Frank

1392
01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:12,000
Speaker 2: Martin before. It lowered Frank Martin's output. It got him overthinking,

1393
01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:14,160
Speaker 2: It got him to the point where he's moving but

1394
01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:16,880
Speaker 2: not throwing. And I'll give Derek James credit. You want

1395
01:04:16,880 --> 01:04:18,240
Speaker 2: to see, you know, you want to hear why Derek

1396
01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:21,120
Speaker 2: James is considered the best trainer in the game today.

1397
01:04:21,120 --> 01:04:23,920
Speaker 2: He got in Frank Martin's ass, Luke like he should

1398
01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:27,840
Speaker 2: have go after him throw punches. But look at the

1399
01:04:27,880 --> 01:04:32,360
Speaker 2: way Martin responded in those final three rounds, especially right

1400
01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:35,320
Speaker 2: after James came at him. Steve Farhood just so you know,

1401
01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:39,640
Speaker 2: had Hartunian up two points after the seventh rounds. So

1402
01:04:39,720 --> 01:04:41,840
Speaker 2: this is a fight, Luke that ended up. Did Martin

1403
01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:44,320
Speaker 2: need the knockdown to win? No, he needed the knockdown

1404
01:04:44,320 --> 01:04:46,920
Speaker 2: in round twelve to get the unanimous decision. Though, so

1405
01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:51,000
Speaker 2: did Martin show that he's potentially human, that he's not

1406
01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:54,840
Speaker 2: a you know, an alien, a superhero here it was

1407
01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:56,919
Speaker 2: a little bit humbling in that regard for him. There's

1408
01:04:56,960 --> 01:04:58,960
Speaker 2: a little bit of a let's bring his stock down

1409
01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:00,960
Speaker 2: to earth. He didn't run through him like we thought.

1410
01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:03,320
Speaker 2: But let's give hartuni In a ton of credit. He

1411
01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:06,640
Speaker 2: was tough, he was game, and he succeeded at taking

1412
01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:09,240
Speaker 2: away from Frank Martin in the first half and in

1413
01:05:09,320 --> 01:05:12,040
Speaker 2: part of the middle of the fight. What Martin does great,

1414
01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:15,480
Speaker 2: that smart volume, that foot work. He's always he's never

1415
01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:17,480
Speaker 2: there to fully be hit, but he's right in front

1416
01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:20,560
Speaker 2: of you darting in and out. His offense was suddenly

1417
01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:22,280
Speaker 2: down and look, I don't know if you notice, as

1418
01:05:22,280 --> 01:05:25,600
Speaker 2: sublime as Frank Martin can be offensively, when he started

1419
01:05:25,680 --> 01:05:29,040
Speaker 2: just following Hartunian around without throwing, there were times he

1420
01:05:29,120 --> 01:05:31,600
Speaker 2: was squaring up. There were times where his mechanics were off.

1421
01:05:31,640 --> 01:05:34,040
Speaker 2: You can almost tell like he really was in a

1422
01:05:34,120 --> 01:05:37,880
Speaker 2: chess match for the first time and was having difficulty

1423
01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:40,280
Speaker 2: in the moment. Because again, does that give you pause

1424
01:05:40,360 --> 01:05:42,440
Speaker 2: that he's going to go out there and be considered,

1425
01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:44,040
Speaker 2: you know, as good as Haini and Tank and the

1426
01:05:44,080 --> 01:05:47,280
Speaker 2: other guy's in around this division. Yes, but let's also

1427
01:05:47,360 --> 01:05:50,160
Speaker 2: see how he responded. Same analysis that I gave Jack

1428
01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:53,280
Speaker 2: Dela Madelena was he was pushed to a level where

1429
01:05:53,320 --> 01:05:55,120
Speaker 2: he showed his cards and you're like, whoa, maybe he's

1430
01:05:55,200 --> 01:05:58,280
Speaker 2: not exactly who we think he can be calm yet,

1431
01:05:58,600 --> 01:06:01,080
Speaker 2: but what did they both do down the stretch? Dude,

1432
01:06:01,080 --> 01:06:03,919
Speaker 2: Frank Martin kicked this guy's ass down the stretch, forced

1433
01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:05,680
Speaker 2: him to take the Codon knee. I know, saying the

1434
01:06:05,680 --> 01:06:07,320
Speaker 2: Codoni is one of the most offensive things you can

1435
01:06:07,360 --> 01:06:10,320
Speaker 2: say in boxing Twitter, because Codo voluntarily took the knee

1436
01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:13,680
Speaker 2: against Margarito in the first fight where the ham hats. Yeah,

1437
01:06:13,720 --> 01:06:15,840
Speaker 2: I mean it is well, look, boxing Twitter is ruthless.

1438
01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:18,760
Speaker 2: He took the damn cody against him. That's because Frank

1439
01:06:18,800 --> 01:06:21,160
Speaker 2: Martin woke up and brought it.

1440
01:06:21,360 --> 01:06:23,120
Speaker 1: So Luke again, this is over him.

1441
01:06:23,480 --> 01:06:25,240
Speaker 2: This is gonna be one of those things that will

1442
01:06:25,240 --> 01:06:28,440
Speaker 2: make Frank Martin better down the line. But I do

1443
01:06:28,520 --> 01:06:31,000
Speaker 2: believe you'd have to guess there were people watching potential

1444
01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:34,680
Speaker 2: opponents who are going, ah, maybe he's not that guy,

1445
01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:37,960
Speaker 2: still could become at Luke. But damn he needed this

1446
01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:39,680
Speaker 2: because there was a guy who made him get off

1447
01:06:39,720 --> 01:06:42,240
Speaker 2: script and he needed his coach getting up in him

1448
01:06:42,360 --> 01:06:44,000
Speaker 2: to wake him up and bring him back.

1449
01:06:44,520 --> 01:06:46,800
Speaker 1: You know, the issue was with that Michelle Rivera fight.

1450
01:06:46,880 --> 01:06:49,480
Speaker 1: Michelle Rivera tried to be the slick stir between them

1451
01:06:49,760 --> 01:06:52,120
Speaker 1: and Frank Martin. That's a terrible thing to do against

1452
01:06:52,120 --> 01:06:54,720
Speaker 1: Frank Martin. But Harrtunian didn't give a fuck about any

1453
01:06:54,720 --> 01:06:56,960
Speaker 1: of that. Harrtunian was just marching on in. I mean

1454
01:06:57,000 --> 01:06:58,200
Speaker 1: it was a little more slick than that. I don't

1455
01:06:58,240 --> 01:07:00,000
Speaker 1: want to say he had no skill, certainly, that's not

1456
01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:01,520
Speaker 1: quite the other the way I mean at all. I

1457
01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:04,120
Speaker 1: just mean the amount of pressure that he was providing.

1458
01:07:04,720 --> 01:07:07,720
Speaker 1: You know, you give time to Frank Martin to settle,

1459
01:07:08,120 --> 01:07:11,160
Speaker 1: You give him time to pick his shots judiciously, and

1460
01:07:11,200 --> 01:07:13,560
Speaker 1: he will do exactly that. If you don't and you

1461
01:07:13,560 --> 01:07:15,640
Speaker 1: play hurry up offense with him, it's a lot harder

1462
01:07:15,680 --> 01:07:17,040
Speaker 1: for him to get going. But basically we got to

1463
01:07:17,040 --> 01:07:19,680
Speaker 1: talk about that last round where he takes the knee.

1464
01:07:19,680 --> 01:07:21,800
Speaker 1: This is the thing for me, and like, how many

1465
01:07:21,840 --> 01:07:23,360
Speaker 1: times have you seen it? Where Like, for example, we

1466
01:07:23,400 --> 01:07:25,440
Speaker 1: talked about the It's not quite exactly the same, but

1467
01:07:25,480 --> 01:07:27,880
Speaker 1: a little bit of the Dala Joya Trinidad fight where

1468
01:07:27,920 --> 01:07:31,520
Speaker 1: Dale Hooya basically like punted on the last round, thinking like, hey,

1469
01:07:31,520 --> 01:07:32,640
Speaker 1: I've got this in the bag.

1470
01:07:32,760 --> 01:07:35,680
Speaker 2: It's again last four rounds, dale Hooya basically give.

1471
01:07:35,560 --> 01:07:37,080
Speaker 1: But I mean even by the twelfth he was just

1472
01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:40,040
Speaker 1: dancing in a circle. He was barely engaging at all.

1473
01:07:40,160 --> 01:07:41,840
Speaker 1: Now this is not quite that situation. But what I

1474
01:07:41,840 --> 01:07:44,840
Speaker 1: mean to say is I have seen guys do well

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01:07:44,880 --> 01:07:47,920
Speaker 1: through ten, maybe even eleven rounds and then shit the

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01:07:47,920 --> 01:07:50,920
Speaker 1: bed in the twelfth really really badly, And they want

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01:07:50,920 --> 01:07:53,200
Speaker 1: to say, well, who was winning the majority of the

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01:07:53,240 --> 01:07:55,600
Speaker 1: time they fought. I'm like, who gives a fuck? Right?

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Speaker 1: If you get dominated to the point where you are

1480
01:07:57,760 --> 01:07:59,959
Speaker 1: asking the ref to intervene so you can take a breathe,

1481
01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:03,320
Speaker 1: or you are punting on your chances in a close fight,

1482
01:08:03,400 --> 01:08:05,800
Speaker 1: you are punting, you are quitting. You're not quitting in

1483
01:08:05,840 --> 01:08:08,320
Speaker 1: the sense of I'm gonna let you win to the

1484
01:08:08,320 --> 01:08:10,480
Speaker 1: point where you overwhelm me and I get stopped. But

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01:08:10,520 --> 01:08:12,760
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to win this at all anymore. I'm

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01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:15,520
Speaker 1: merely trying to survive. And I give Frank Martin credit

1487
01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:17,760
Speaker 1: for finally turning him on and putting him in a

1488
01:08:17,800 --> 01:08:20,439
Speaker 1: position where he is again, if you're taking a knee

1489
01:08:20,439 --> 01:08:22,640
Speaker 1: like that, you are begging the ref to intervene on

1490
01:08:22,680 --> 01:08:23,120
Speaker 1: your behald.

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Speaker 2: Well, look, you know there's nothing I hate more than

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01:08:26,640 --> 01:08:30,200
Speaker 2: Armenian on Armenian crimes here Lucas. So I think what

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01:08:30,320 --> 01:08:33,600
Speaker 2: Hartunian did he was exhausted, he was hurt, and he

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01:08:33,720 --> 01:08:36,600
Speaker 2: strategically thought him to himself, I stay fired and I

1495
01:08:36,600 --> 01:08:39,120
Speaker 2: could get stopped. So I don't know if it was

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01:08:39,160 --> 01:08:41,599
Speaker 2: necessarily like I'm gonna give up my chance of winning.

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01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:43,680
Speaker 2: I think he was trying to be as strategic as

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01:08:43,720 --> 01:08:47,840
Speaker 2: possible within an absolute storm. I don't hold that against him.

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01:08:48,240 --> 01:08:50,680
Speaker 2: He fought over his head. He fought better than we

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01:08:50,720 --> 01:08:52,840
Speaker 2: thought he actually was. He may have actually fought better

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01:08:52,880 --> 01:08:56,840
Speaker 2: than he actually was. It worked for some time. It's

1502
01:08:56,840 --> 01:08:58,479
Speaker 2: got to work for the whole time. Though he wasn't

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01:08:58,479 --> 01:09:00,479
Speaker 2: able to get it. Frank, he wasn't able to or

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01:09:00,520 --> 01:09:03,000
Speaker 2: get Martin out of there, and he certainly wasn't able

1505
01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:05,679
Speaker 2: to finish the finish the job fair enough.

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01:09:05,840 --> 01:09:08,200
Speaker 1: Let me clarify exactly what I mean by this. I

1507
01:09:08,240 --> 01:09:09,960
Speaker 1: don't in any way. I'm not one of these guys

1508
01:09:09,960 --> 01:09:11,680
Speaker 1: who's like, you took a knee, you're a quitter. I

1509
01:09:11,720 --> 01:09:14,120
Speaker 1: don't mean like I care about it like that is.

1510
01:09:14,240 --> 01:09:16,439
Speaker 1: This is fight sports. These are tough guys. They don't

1511
01:09:16,439 --> 01:09:18,559
Speaker 1: have to prove anything to me. I know that he's tough.

1512
01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:21,720
Speaker 1: What I mean to say is, if you're in that

1513
01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:24,719
Speaker 1: position and you're getting bombed on, yes, it is probably

1514
01:09:24,800 --> 01:09:26,479
Speaker 1: wise to an extent to take a knee if it

1515
01:09:26,520 --> 01:09:30,360
Speaker 1: means survival or no survival. But once you begin to take,

1516
01:09:30,439 --> 01:09:33,120
Speaker 1: once you take that knee, you have to know that

1517
01:09:33,200 --> 01:09:35,240
Speaker 1: whatever chance that you slim that you might have had

1518
01:09:35,240 --> 01:09:37,760
Speaker 1: of winning is gone. You have to know, you have

1519
01:09:37,840 --> 01:09:40,120
Speaker 1: to know, you have to know that once you take

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01:09:40,160 --> 01:09:42,680
Speaker 1: that you are punting not merely on that round, but

1521
01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:44,400
Speaker 1: the round before, since you're going to get a ten

1522
01:09:44,479 --> 01:09:47,160
Speaker 1: eight in all likelihood, and now you are playing with

1523
01:09:47,200 --> 01:09:49,439
Speaker 1: a margin of error you no longer have. And that's

1524
01:09:49,479 --> 01:09:51,360
Speaker 1: what I mean to say. I don't think he's not

1525
01:09:51,400 --> 01:09:53,280
Speaker 1: a tough guy, dude, go look at what Frank Martin

1526
01:09:53,320 --> 01:09:55,280
Speaker 1: was doing to him. Frank Martin was on him like

1527
01:09:55,360 --> 01:09:58,599
Speaker 1: White on rice. He was getting rained on and had

1528
01:09:58,640 --> 01:10:01,559
Speaker 1: no umbrella. Fair enough, but you can't not that he

1529
01:10:01,600 --> 01:10:05,719
Speaker 1: was protesting the judge of scorecards. But that's exactly my point.

1530
01:10:05,720 --> 01:10:07,200
Speaker 1: Once he took that knee, he had to know it

1531
01:10:07,240 --> 01:10:08,800
Speaker 1: was over. You were not going to get that fight

1532
01:10:08,840 --> 01:10:11,320
Speaker 1: back at that point, especially as the B side in Vegas.

1533
01:10:11,320 --> 01:10:12,040
Speaker 1: Forget about it.

1534
01:10:12,400 --> 01:10:14,280
Speaker 2: No, but I got to give him a lot of credit, Luke.

1535
01:10:14,320 --> 01:10:16,040
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, we can make stuff that shit.

1536
01:10:16,320 --> 01:10:18,840
Speaker 2: We can make the coach Edmund head movement joke, but

1537
01:10:18,920 --> 01:10:21,439
Speaker 2: a head movement was a monster part of it. He

1538
01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:24,519
Speaker 2: also needed to be ballsy. He had good technique, good

1539
01:10:24,520 --> 01:10:27,680
Speaker 2: combination punching. I mean, if this was a tryout to

1540
01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:30,280
Speaker 2: show himself on this level, I got to see more

1541
01:10:30,280 --> 01:10:32,920
Speaker 2: harror tunny and he won that. But how about this, Luke,

1542
01:10:32,960 --> 01:10:35,680
Speaker 2: You and I both pitched after Frank Martin's breakthrough win

1543
01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:39,400
Speaker 2: over Rivera last year, you know what, be a great

1544
01:10:39,400 --> 01:10:43,040
Speaker 2: opponent for Dravont Tank Davis. Things have changed since then.

1545
01:10:43,080 --> 01:10:45,880
Speaker 2: Frank Martin arguably looked human at times in this fight

1546
01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:48,599
Speaker 2: before he put it away Jervonte Davis, according to social media,

1547
01:10:48,680 --> 01:10:52,759
Speaker 2: Luke just got out of the can. What about doing this? Now?

1548
01:10:52,840 --> 01:10:57,519
Speaker 2: Do you think the the somewhat humanizing performance would make

1549
01:10:57,640 --> 01:11:02,599
Speaker 2: him a more attractive comeback Gervonte post prison opponent because

1550
01:11:02,640 --> 01:11:05,040
Speaker 2: of suddenly the questions right there, how much do.

1551
01:11:05,080 --> 01:11:07,400
Speaker 1: You think I don't see, here's no you know what.

1552
01:11:07,760 --> 01:11:09,160
Speaker 1: I know he's got a fight coming up, so it

1553
01:11:09,160 --> 01:11:10,880
Speaker 1: doesn't we can't pull him. I'll tell you it'll be

1554
01:11:10,920 --> 01:11:13,679
Speaker 1: a much more interesting fight for me. Now you're asking

1555
01:11:13,680 --> 01:11:15,799
Speaker 1: a separate question, which is Tank is out of prison

1556
01:11:16,680 --> 01:11:19,080
Speaker 1: and he needs an opponent to get right. Is Frank

1557
01:11:19,120 --> 01:11:21,280
Speaker 1: Martin that guy? To me, the answer is no, because

1558
01:11:21,320 --> 01:11:24,040
Speaker 1: I think a more interesting opponent and a much more

1559
01:11:24,080 --> 01:11:28,200
Speaker 1: interesting fight would be something like Frank Martin versus Esock Cruise,

1560
01:11:28,600 --> 01:11:32,360
Speaker 1: because Tank is not a I mean, Tank does have slickness, well,

1561
01:11:32,360 --> 01:11:35,120
Speaker 1: he has head movement encounters, but he doesn't throw hardly

1562
01:11:35,160 --> 01:11:37,320
Speaker 1: any offense. In fact, Frank Martin is kind of similar

1563
01:11:37,360 --> 01:11:40,639
Speaker 1: in that way to Tank, and Hartunian was a little

1564
01:11:40,640 --> 01:11:42,960
Speaker 1: bit more obviously in his face. By the way, the

1565
01:11:43,040 --> 01:11:45,040
Speaker 1: reason that he took a knees because he thinks he

1566
01:11:45,080 --> 01:11:47,200
Speaker 1: has a very serious eye injury. I get it, I

1567
01:11:47,240 --> 01:11:49,920
Speaker 1: completely get it. I just mean to say, once you

1568
01:11:49,960 --> 01:11:52,280
Speaker 1: took that knee, the fight was over for you. It's

1569
01:11:52,280 --> 01:11:55,360
Speaker 1: in terms of the judging. But BC, what do you

1570
01:11:55,360 --> 01:11:58,360
Speaker 1: think about that idea? Let's see what old Frank Martin

1571
01:11:58,400 --> 01:12:00,280
Speaker 1: can do against Esock Cruse. Can he all of a

1572
01:12:00,360 --> 01:12:02,479
Speaker 1: riddle like that? Who is a brawler in every sense

1573
01:12:02,520 --> 01:12:04,519
Speaker 1: of the word. But number one, you know as well

1574
01:12:04,520 --> 01:12:08,040
Speaker 1: as I do, tough as fucking balls. Yeah, number two

1575
01:12:08,280 --> 01:12:09,920
Speaker 1: heavy handed as well.

1576
01:12:10,360 --> 01:12:12,800
Speaker 2: That's a great fight to make. I question if we'd

1577
01:12:12,800 --> 01:12:14,760
Speaker 2: see it next, only because I'm sure both guys would

1578
01:12:14,800 --> 01:12:17,040
Speaker 2: want Tank next, and you know how badly he shot.

1579
01:12:17,120 --> 01:12:19,240
Speaker 2: Cruz has been campaigning for it and Team Tank at

1580
01:12:19,240 --> 01:12:21,800
Speaker 2: times they're like, that's our probably our next opponent. Other

1581
01:12:21,800 --> 01:12:24,519
Speaker 2: times they're talking about Haini and Shakur, which are much

1582
01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:27,080
Speaker 2: much harder fights to make. Good news is if you

1583
01:12:27,280 --> 01:12:31,280
Speaker 2: like the idea of Pitbull or Frank Martin against Tank,

1584
01:12:31,400 --> 01:12:33,160
Speaker 2: it's it's easy to make. They're all on the same

1585
01:12:33,200 --> 01:12:34,960
Speaker 2: side of the street. But yeah, no, in terms of

1586
01:12:34,960 --> 01:12:37,479
Speaker 2: finding out who's who in this division. In the style

1587
01:12:37,520 --> 01:12:39,519
Speaker 2: of contrast, I think cru versus Martin would be a

1588
01:12:39,520 --> 01:12:41,400
Speaker 2: heck of a fight. It will be interesting to see

1589
01:12:41,960 --> 01:12:44,800
Speaker 2: how aggressively, how quickly Tank is trying to you know,

1590
01:12:44,920 --> 01:12:47,240
Speaker 2: match himself coming out of this and putting that chapter

1591
01:12:47,800 --> 01:12:50,599
Speaker 2: of his life behind him. Luke, I'm sure he got,

1592
01:12:50,680 --> 01:12:53,000
Speaker 2: you know, rightfully drunk on being in a fight that

1593
01:12:53,080 --> 01:12:55,080
Speaker 2: big against Ryan and then going out there and against

1594
01:12:55,120 --> 01:12:57,360
Speaker 2: Garcia and winning it the way the way Tank did.

1595
01:12:57,720 --> 01:12:59,559
Speaker 2: I think something it might come down to. Wait, I mean, Luke,

1596
01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:01,960
Speaker 2: it's like you know, Tank put it did put in

1597
01:13:02,040 --> 01:13:05,519
Speaker 2: the rehydration clause which which kept Ryan Honest from coming

1598
01:13:05,560 --> 01:13:09,080
Speaker 2: in too big and too rehydrated. There. Are you under

1599
01:13:09,120 --> 01:13:11,320
Speaker 2: the impression that Tank stays at thirty five for a

1600
01:13:11,360 --> 01:13:15,120
Speaker 2: while or do you think he follows the larger max

1601
01:13:16,000 --> 01:13:19,320
Speaker 2: exodus of super young breakout talent who are all growing

1602
01:13:19,360 --> 01:13:21,200
Speaker 2: by the day and seemed to all be going up

1603
01:13:21,240 --> 01:13:23,600
Speaker 2: to forty when we're talking about Tao and Hainey and

1604
01:13:23,680 --> 01:13:25,919
Speaker 2: Chequers still at one thirty five. But you get my point.

1605
01:13:26,040 --> 01:13:28,160
Speaker 1: I think he could do one thirty five one more time.

1606
01:13:28,200 --> 01:13:29,920
Speaker 1: By the way, Tank Davis Sweet we all know from

1607
01:13:29,920 --> 01:13:32,360
Speaker 1: Meyweth McGregor and certainly other fights has had his own,

1608
01:13:32,479 --> 01:13:34,880
Speaker 1: not recently, but has had issues making weight in the past.

1609
01:13:36,000 --> 01:13:38,040
Speaker 1: So certainly, here's what I'll SAYBC. If he doesn't go

1610
01:13:38,080 --> 01:13:40,280
Speaker 1: to one forty next, he's got like one more maybe

1611
01:13:40,320 --> 01:13:43,599
Speaker 1: at one thirty five something like that, Because you're right,

1612
01:13:43,600 --> 01:13:46,400
Speaker 1: there's so much Before all the poll was at one

1613
01:13:46,439 --> 01:13:49,439
Speaker 1: thirty five. Now all the poll has shifted to one forty.

1614
01:13:49,720 --> 01:13:51,559
Speaker 1: He really doesn't have much of a choice in that sense.

1615
01:13:51,880 --> 01:13:54,920
Speaker 2: I mean, it does feel inevitable, inevitable that down the

1616
01:13:54,960 --> 01:13:57,720
Speaker 2: line Tank will become a walterweight and get huge fights there, Luke,

1617
01:13:58,000 --> 01:14:00,479
Speaker 2: But do we have any questions about his game as

1618
01:14:00,520 --> 01:14:03,120
Speaker 2: he would rise and wait, now he's already risen look

1619
01:14:03,200 --> 01:14:05,240
Speaker 2: like you know, two or three divisions since he turned

1620
01:14:05,240 --> 01:14:07,599
Speaker 2: pro and carried the power up there with him at

1621
01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:09,959
Speaker 2: one forty, we've really only seen him against Mario Barrios,

1622
01:14:10,080 --> 01:14:12,639
Speaker 2: who he did stop late in a fun action fight.

1623
01:14:13,160 --> 01:14:15,720
Speaker 2: Do you think at forty and even down the road

1624
01:14:15,760 --> 01:14:20,000
Speaker 2: at forty seven that the power will still be a

1625
01:14:20,080 --> 01:14:22,160
Speaker 2: counter punching threat that could get out of that could

1626
01:14:22,160 --> 01:14:23,320
Speaker 2: get you out of there with one shot.

1627
01:14:23,840 --> 01:14:26,599
Speaker 1: Yes, just not as quickly. I mean he stopped Barrios

1628
01:14:26,680 --> 01:14:29,200
Speaker 1: and what the eleventh if memory serves. Yeah, right, it

1629
01:14:29,200 --> 01:14:31,000
Speaker 1: took him that long and he was drilling him too.

1630
01:14:31,040 --> 01:14:32,920
Speaker 1: It took and Barrios was coming forward on him. So

1631
01:14:33,040 --> 01:14:38,480
Speaker 1: like the answer is, yes, yes he his power is formidable.

1632
01:14:38,680 --> 01:14:41,120
Speaker 1: I mean truly pound for pound, like he's honestly one

1633
01:14:41,120 --> 01:14:44,200
Speaker 1: of the top punching threats in all of boxing terms

1634
01:14:44,240 --> 01:14:47,800
Speaker 1: of pure raw power for their size. So yes, I

1635
01:14:47,800 --> 01:14:49,360
Speaker 1: think he could. I just don't think it's going to

1636
01:14:49,400 --> 01:14:52,800
Speaker 1: come as easily like he's like, you know, is he

1637
01:14:52,840 --> 01:14:57,759
Speaker 1: gonna have Leo Santa Cruz style KOs at one? Probably

1638
01:14:57,800 --> 01:14:59,320
Speaker 1: not more like the Barrios to.

1639
01:14:59,280 --> 01:15:02,000
Speaker 2: Make bus I think he's gonna have to be busier,

1640
01:15:02,360 --> 01:15:04,600
Speaker 2: which which was a problem for Frank Martin here in

1641
01:15:04,640 --> 01:15:06,840
Speaker 2: different ways because I think he was out though, you know,

1642
01:15:06,880 --> 01:15:09,720
Speaker 2: out moved and outthought at times. But Tank's gonna have

1643
01:15:09,760 --> 01:15:12,120
Speaker 2: to throw more punches in those divisions. But back to

1644
01:15:12,160 --> 01:15:15,080
Speaker 2: our original point, Yeah, I wonder if Team Tank watched

1645
01:15:15,080 --> 01:15:16,680
Speaker 2: that and said, you know what, we got this, we

1646
01:15:16,760 --> 01:15:18,160
Speaker 2: got this, that'd be a hell of a fight to

1647
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Speaker 2: There you two minutes in the microwave, Luke, two minutes.

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Speaker 2: That's the way that when you're in a hurry. You

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Speaker 2: got a meeting. You can't make something. Don't do fast food.

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Speaker 2: Don't do microwave chicken nuggets. Luke, you throw these in

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Speaker 2: for two minutes. You got a You got a nutritious,

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Speaker 2: wholesome meal right there. I mean, did you try that

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Speaker 2: califlower rice with the ksho on it, Luke?

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Speaker 1: With the no? Oh man I had. I had one

1717
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Speaker 1: of the chickens with green beans. I think it was

1718
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1719
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

1720
01:18:38,640 --> 01:18:38,880
Speaker 1: Good.

1721
01:18:39,120 --> 01:18:41,520
Speaker 2: Oh did you get those shakes that they send.

1722
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Speaker 1: In two I haven't used the shakes yet, did you?

1723
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Speaker 2: Oh?

1724
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Speaker 1: Hell?

1725
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Speaker 2: Yeah, dude?

1726
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Speaker 1: Oh shit? Okay, okay, wait wait was that that monstrosity

1727
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Speaker 1: of outhouse juice you were drinking?

1728
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Speaker 2: The No, that's a different supply hair, that's a different

1729
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Speaker 2: because I.

1730
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Speaker 1: Was about to be deterred. Okay. You see, it's time

1731
01:18:57,040 --> 01:18:58,840
Speaker 1: for the dogs to ask us questions. It's time for

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Speaker 1: dms from the old dig h.

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01:19:01,320 --> 01:19:04,200
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1734
01:19:04,800 --> 01:19:08,519
Speaker 1: You know, we've had this animation since I think Trump

1735
01:19:08,600 --> 01:19:11,479
Speaker 1: was president. I think it's time to time to cycle

1736
01:19:11,520 --> 01:19:11,800
Speaker 1: it through.

1737
01:19:11,840 --> 01:19:14,200
Speaker 2: All right, Ka, Well, eventually Don Junior is going to

1738
01:19:14,280 --> 01:19:15,599
Speaker 2: un We could just keep it around for that.

1739
01:19:15,600 --> 01:19:18,559
Speaker 1: Luke might as well. All right from Cole Underscore Brown

1740
01:19:18,600 --> 01:19:21,760
Speaker 1: eight five to eight. Any thoughts on former Glory kickboxer

1741
01:19:22,040 --> 01:19:28,200
Speaker 1: Usree bell Gaui being set to compete on the Contender series,

1742
01:19:28,200 --> 01:19:32,240
Speaker 1: I'm sorry I cannot pronounce his AMSI firmly apologize. He

1743
01:19:32,280 --> 01:19:35,200
Speaker 1: competed against Ada Sonya and Padata and kickboxing and now

1744
01:19:35,240 --> 01:19:37,559
Speaker 1: trains with Padata. B c to have any thoughts on

1745
01:19:37,680 --> 01:19:40,480
Speaker 1: us free Belgarui.

1746
01:19:40,040 --> 01:19:42,639
Speaker 2: While I do not, while I do not have history

1747
01:19:42,680 --> 01:19:44,720
Speaker 2: of watching him, and I'm be honest, I've never heard

1748
01:19:44,720 --> 01:19:47,280
Speaker 2: of that name before. Luke. The idea of bringing someone

1749
01:19:47,280 --> 01:19:50,920
Speaker 2: in with kickboxing experience against those two and give I

1750
01:19:50,960 --> 01:19:52,920
Speaker 2: don't know the age of this kickboxer, Luke, but if

1751
01:19:52,960 --> 01:19:55,280
Speaker 2: they could run him through the Dana Way Contender series,

1752
01:19:55,320 --> 01:19:57,720
Speaker 2: if you could do what Dana expects you to do

1753
01:19:57,840 --> 01:20:02,680
Speaker 2: to get the contract, which has come in thrill. I like,

1754
01:20:02,800 --> 01:20:05,920
Speaker 2: I like storylines. I like injecting this into the mix. Luke,

1755
01:20:06,160 --> 01:20:08,759
Speaker 2: I'd be interested in getting involved in doing the research

1756
01:20:08,840 --> 01:20:11,599
Speaker 2: and watching the tape and uh yeah, So look, I'm

1757
01:20:11,600 --> 01:20:13,800
Speaker 2: gonna tell you this. It's not that I didn't like

1758
01:20:13,840 --> 01:20:15,960
Speaker 2: the Dana White Contender series. If you actually watch it,

1759
01:20:15,960 --> 01:20:18,800
Speaker 2: it's it's it's entertainment. It's a very well done show,

1760
01:20:18,880 --> 01:20:22,120
Speaker 2: like like like production wise and all that across the board.

1761
01:20:23,080 --> 01:20:25,000
Speaker 2: That sizzle real they played at the two ninety pay

1762
01:20:25,000 --> 01:20:27,479
Speaker 2: per view. Dude, it really woke me up to like, yeah,

1763
01:20:27,520 --> 01:20:30,599
Speaker 2: I mean when you're seeing how many, how quickly this

1764
01:20:30,720 --> 01:20:33,840
Speaker 2: factory became the go I mean, tough is just a

1765
01:20:33,880 --> 01:20:36,880
Speaker 2: glorified thing we're keeping around. This is the factory that

1766
01:20:36,960 --> 01:20:39,080
Speaker 2: produces the next fighters, and they just had the first

1767
01:20:39,120 --> 01:20:41,719
Speaker 2: champion in Jamal Hill. And I say, for better or worse,

1768
01:20:41,760 --> 01:20:44,760
Speaker 2: if you've watched m AI's management video in the past,

1769
01:20:44,840 --> 01:20:46,400
Speaker 2: there could be some worse in the way this is

1770
01:20:46,400 --> 01:20:49,280
Speaker 2: set up. But it's quicker than ever to go from

1771
01:20:49,360 --> 01:20:52,719
Speaker 2: spectacular win on Dana White Contender Series to a very

1772
01:20:52,800 --> 01:20:55,679
Speaker 2: you know, to like a good name across from you,

1773
01:20:55,680 --> 01:20:57,799
Speaker 2: you know, in your first two or three UFC fights.

1774
01:20:57,840 --> 01:21:00,360
Speaker 2: So h yeah, Luke, they're gonna want to fast forward this.

1775
01:21:00,439 --> 01:21:02,720
Speaker 2: It worked out the first time bringing in a but

1776
01:21:02,760 --> 01:21:04,880
Speaker 2: who did he What was his record against these two?

1777
01:21:04,960 --> 01:21:05,519
Speaker 2: Do you know that?

1778
01:21:05,680 --> 01:21:07,839
Speaker 1: I do not know. I also say, like, dude, Contender

1779
01:21:07,880 --> 01:21:10,479
Speaker 1: Series can be as bad or as good as the

1780
01:21:10,600 --> 01:21:12,920
Speaker 1: UFC wants to make it. So if they want to

1781
01:21:12,960 --> 01:21:16,080
Speaker 1: put like really interesting prospects on there and then be

1782
01:21:16,240 --> 01:21:18,840
Speaker 1: very selective about who they take. I actually really like

1783
01:21:18,920 --> 01:21:20,880
Speaker 1: Contender series, but when they have a bunch of fights

1784
01:21:20,880 --> 01:21:23,320
Speaker 1: of like meaningless quality and then just let everyone in,

1785
01:21:23,640 --> 01:21:25,880
Speaker 1: it's like, I don't know, I don't know what's supposed

1786
01:21:25,920 --> 01:21:27,040
Speaker 1: to do with that. So it's not like am I

1787
01:21:27,080 --> 01:21:29,479
Speaker 1: a four or against Contender series neither. I'm a for

1788
01:21:29,640 --> 01:21:32,720
Speaker 1: it when it's used in a real selective way. When

1789
01:21:32,720 --> 01:21:35,320
Speaker 1: it's not, it's just an LFA card.

1790
01:21:35,479 --> 01:21:37,920
Speaker 2: It's just OK, what about this? You don't tend to

1791
01:21:37,920 --> 01:21:40,000
Speaker 2: get into the pomp and circumstance. And anytime we get

1792
01:21:40,040 --> 01:21:42,439
Speaker 2: closer to reality TV, we get closer to skits and

1793
01:21:42,479 --> 01:21:45,120
Speaker 2: bits and planned bullshit. Would you like to see the

1794
01:21:45,200 --> 01:21:49,360
Speaker 2: process of data awarding them a contract or not rewarding them?

1795
01:21:49,840 --> 01:21:55,160
Speaker 2: Be more Simon Cowell, be more reality TV tense music,

1796
01:21:55,479 --> 01:21:55,960
Speaker 2: Wait for it.

1797
01:21:56,000 --> 01:21:58,040
Speaker 1: I don't care about any stuff. If they still let

1798
01:21:58,040 --> 01:22:01,920
Speaker 1: everyone in, it doesn't matter. Doesn't matter only if they

1799
01:22:01,920 --> 01:22:05,479
Speaker 1: marry that with being selective, if they do it again.

1800
01:22:05,520 --> 01:22:07,680
Speaker 1: And I want people to be cruel on camera just

1801
01:22:07,720 --> 01:22:09,880
Speaker 1: for fun. But what I'm saying is if they're going

1802
01:22:09,960 --> 01:22:12,360
Speaker 1: to be genuinely selective about it. Sure, more of that

1803
01:22:12,479 --> 01:22:15,200
Speaker 1: I'm okay with, but just being like, well, you won

1804
01:22:15,479 --> 01:22:18,160
Speaker 1: and you obviously suck ass, but fuck it. We need

1805
01:22:18,200 --> 01:22:19,960
Speaker 1: people on the roster because who were going to fill

1806
01:22:20,040 --> 01:22:24,479
Speaker 1: that APEX card with on July fifteenth? You know that

1807
01:22:24,600 --> 01:22:27,600
Speaker 1: kind of a thing, all right? Right from aop W

1808
01:22:27,880 --> 01:22:30,160
Speaker 1: underscore figures the are the gentlemen that made figurines of

1809
01:22:30,160 --> 01:22:32,960
Speaker 1: you and me, believe it or not, Yeah, man, he asks,

1810
01:22:33,040 --> 01:22:35,600
Speaker 1: or they ask, Rather, what in your opinion is the

1811
01:22:35,760 --> 01:22:37,720
Speaker 1: fight to make in the UFC that is currently not

1812
01:22:37,760 --> 01:22:41,040
Speaker 1: announcer scheduled, both title and non title. This is easy.

1813
01:22:41,040 --> 01:22:44,960
Speaker 1: It's Francis and Ganu versus John Jones. You could do

1814
01:22:45,040 --> 01:22:48,040
Speaker 1: that fight tomorrow. There's nothing in any way stopping them.

1815
01:22:48,400 --> 01:22:52,040
Speaker 2: When they made Volk versus Yayer, I remember me saying

1816
01:22:52,040 --> 01:22:53,800
Speaker 2: and you echoing it, like this is one of the three,

1817
01:22:53,880 --> 01:22:55,560
Speaker 2: like one of the three or four best fights you

1818
01:22:55,560 --> 01:22:57,320
Speaker 2: can make in the entire sport, right. I think I

1819
01:22:57,360 --> 01:22:59,240
Speaker 2: think the name that we don't mention here because of

1820
01:22:59,280 --> 01:23:02,880
Speaker 2: the Falacio actisation's Jed Meshu the second said that was his,

1821
01:23:03,040 --> 01:23:05,439
Speaker 2: you know, number one fight he wanted in the whole organization.

1822
01:23:05,560 --> 01:23:08,040
Speaker 2: Right now, what is the fight you want the most

1823
01:23:08,040 --> 01:23:10,400
Speaker 2: in the organization that is currently not being talked about

1824
01:23:10,520 --> 01:23:11,160
Speaker 2: or booked.

1825
01:23:11,479 --> 01:23:15,240
Speaker 1: John Jones versus Francis and Gano could still be aw.

1826
01:23:14,439 --> 01:23:16,840
Speaker 2: I get it, You're right, and I get it, but

1827
01:23:17,240 --> 01:23:20,960
Speaker 2: he an't. Yeah, not including that because he's not in

1828
01:23:20,960 --> 01:23:23,840
Speaker 2: the UFC right now, Luke. So I'm talking about who.

1829
01:23:23,920 --> 01:23:26,200
Speaker 1: I'm pretty pumped. I'm pretty pumped for Izzy Drikis. But

1830
01:23:26,320 --> 01:23:29,479
Speaker 1: the ANSWER's got to be Vulkan Islam too exactly.

1831
01:23:29,560 --> 01:23:31,599
Speaker 2: That's the answer right there. I think that actually hits

1832
01:23:31,680 --> 01:23:34,439
Speaker 2: on a you know, hardcore critical level, but also in

1833
01:23:34,680 --> 01:23:38,200
Speaker 2: expectations for entertainment and the fallout of the stakes and

1834
01:23:38,200 --> 01:23:40,320
Speaker 2: all of that. For sure, that's got to be up there, Luke,

1835
01:23:41,240 --> 01:23:43,120
Speaker 2: h what are we missing here? I mean, John Jones

1836
01:23:43,160 --> 01:23:45,600
Speaker 2: Pavlovich is very interesting if we can get to that

1837
01:23:45,680 --> 01:23:49,120
Speaker 2: point what I'm I'm thinking, hom But dude, Hamza hasn't

1838
01:23:49,160 --> 01:23:51,120
Speaker 2: fought this year. He fought once last year once the

1839
01:23:51,200 --> 01:23:55,479
Speaker 2: year before. Like Hamza versus somebody really big, whether it's

1840
01:23:55,520 --> 01:23:58,759
Speaker 2: Bo Nickel or Atasanya would get me jacked up.

1841
01:23:58,880 --> 01:24:01,760
Speaker 1: To what what fuck are they with hamzat? Why why

1842
01:24:01,880 --> 01:24:02,200
Speaker 1: is it? Like?

1843
01:24:02,280 --> 01:24:02,360
Speaker 2: That?

1844
01:24:02,439 --> 01:24:04,280
Speaker 1: Was? Like, for example, let me ask you this way.

1845
01:24:05,120 --> 01:24:08,160
Speaker 1: I remember when McGregor was hot. I can go back

1846
01:24:08,200 --> 01:24:10,160
Speaker 1: and I can pull it up. Dude, he was active

1847
01:24:10,520 --> 01:24:13,240
Speaker 1: a lot. And remember he fought Ched Mendes when he

1848
01:24:13,280 --> 01:24:14,720
Speaker 1: was all screwed up to which we didn't know at

1849
01:24:14,720 --> 01:24:17,160
Speaker 1: the time and found out later all that stuff. Dude,

1850
01:24:17,160 --> 01:24:20,200
Speaker 1: Hamzat was riding about as hot a streak as you

1851
01:24:20,280 --> 01:24:23,840
Speaker 1: could up until and then certainly after the Gilbert Burns fight,

1852
01:24:24,600 --> 01:24:26,720
Speaker 1: and they just have not kept him active. Is he

1853
01:24:26,800 --> 01:24:28,439
Speaker 1: unable to fight in the States? What the fuck is

1854
01:24:28,479 --> 01:24:28,840
Speaker 1: the deal?

1855
01:24:29,160 --> 01:24:31,280
Speaker 2: I saw a picture he posted on Instagram where it

1856
01:24:31,280 --> 01:24:33,040
Speaker 2: looked like he had like a cast or something on

1857
01:24:33,040 --> 01:24:36,000
Speaker 2: his leg. And some people are saying, you can't travel

1858
01:24:36,040 --> 01:24:37,200
Speaker 2: the US, Luke. Is that true?

1859
01:24:37,640 --> 01:24:39,519
Speaker 1: Uh? There is? But there we don't We haven't had

1860
01:24:39,520 --> 01:24:42,400
Speaker 1: it confirmed, right, We don't know if he can't travel

1861
01:24:42,400 --> 01:24:45,360
Speaker 1: to the US. But because he's got such ties with Kadirov. Again,

1862
01:24:45,360 --> 01:24:47,240
Speaker 1: whether you think those are forced or not, and again

1863
01:24:47,280 --> 01:24:49,679
Speaker 1: there's no way to know. But whatever, he is close

1864
01:24:49,760 --> 01:24:52,800
Speaker 1: with Kadirov by virtue of being Chechen, that he might

1865
01:24:52,840 --> 01:24:55,320
Speaker 1: be entangled with him from a business perspective and unable

1866
01:24:55,400 --> 01:24:57,639
Speaker 1: to now enter the United States. We don't know that,

1867
01:24:57,760 --> 01:24:58,799
Speaker 1: but that has certainly been.

1868
01:24:58,680 --> 01:25:01,720
Speaker 2: Believed Long Island. Luke says they're saving him for October

1869
01:25:01,720 --> 01:25:02,280
Speaker 2: Abu Dhabi.

1870
01:25:02,280 --> 01:25:05,960
Speaker 1: Who's okay announce an opponent the.

1871
01:25:07,800 --> 01:25:10,120
Speaker 2: Next time Francis makes news, Luke, they're waiting to just

1872
01:25:10,200 --> 01:25:12,559
Speaker 2: dunk on top of that with this announcement, probably, But

1873
01:25:13,120 --> 01:25:14,519
Speaker 2: who's it gonna be against? Luke Thomas?

1874
01:25:14,560 --> 01:25:14,880
Speaker 1: Who is it?

1875
01:25:14,960 --> 01:25:17,599
Speaker 2: Middleweight? Against two Costa? Who do you got? What's going

1876
01:25:17,640 --> 01:25:17,880
Speaker 2: on here?

1877
01:25:18,040 --> 01:25:19,760
Speaker 1: Uh? So you've got well, I mean, here's what you

1878
01:25:19,800 --> 01:25:21,760
Speaker 1: could do. You've got coming up at two ninety one.

1879
01:25:21,760 --> 01:25:24,120
Speaker 1: Don't you have Alice Skarov taking on Coasta? You could

1880
01:25:24,160 --> 01:25:25,920
Speaker 1: get the winner of that, right.

1881
01:25:25,800 --> 01:25:28,840
Speaker 2: It's true? But but he yeah, yeah, I guess.

1882
01:25:28,680 --> 01:25:31,400
Speaker 1: Alis Skarov would be a rematch, and then Costa would

1883
01:25:31,479 --> 01:25:32,960
Speaker 1: just be bananas.

1884
01:25:33,360 --> 01:25:36,120
Speaker 2: So how about usban not to catchway? It is big?

1885
01:25:36,160 --> 01:25:37,000
Speaker 2: It would feel big.

1886
01:25:37,320 --> 01:25:39,360
Speaker 1: I don't love it. I don't hate it. It's not

1887
01:25:39,360 --> 01:25:40,920
Speaker 1: my favorite choice, but I don't hate it. I don't

1888
01:25:40,960 --> 01:25:43,720
Speaker 1: hate it. But it's really fucking weird what's going on

1889
01:25:43,800 --> 01:25:45,400
Speaker 1: with him. It's like, dude, you this is a guy

1890
01:25:45,439 --> 01:25:47,400
Speaker 1: who should be active as ship right now.

1891
01:25:47,479 --> 01:25:50,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm gonna you know, you're gonna throw tomatoes

1892
01:25:50,080 --> 01:25:53,719
Speaker 2: at me. But can we get Rose versus Wayley three

1893
01:25:53,840 --> 01:25:56,439
Speaker 2: to satisfy me? Luke in my strawweight dreams. I mean, look,

1894
01:25:56,439 --> 01:25:58,920
Speaker 2: that's the that's the fight to crown the greatest strow involved.

1895
01:25:58,920 --> 01:26:00,920
Speaker 2: I know Rose moved up in wait and they don't

1896
01:26:00,960 --> 01:26:02,920
Speaker 2: want that right now, but that's what I want.

1897
01:26:03,560 --> 01:26:05,080
Speaker 1: I don't know how to answer this one because I'm

1898
01:26:05,080 --> 01:26:07,679
Speaker 1: not sure what the issue is. But question number three,

1899
01:26:07,720 --> 01:26:11,439
Speaker 1: he writes, Big Daddy round Tree, what is y'all's best

1900
01:26:11,479 --> 01:26:14,719
Speaker 1: advice for dealing with a four month old daughter? Thanks

1901
01:26:14,760 --> 01:26:18,360
Speaker 1: for the weekly content, you sickening shit bags, Luke.

1902
01:26:18,439 --> 01:26:21,280
Speaker 2: You are a hashtag girl dad like the late Kobe

1903
01:26:21,479 --> 01:26:24,240
Speaker 2: Rip Luke. So do you have advice? I mean, what

1904
01:26:24,320 --> 01:26:27,080
Speaker 2: is his instance at four months not sleeping through the night?

1905
01:26:28,160 --> 01:26:29,160
Speaker 2: Like all that your guessing?

1906
01:26:29,320 --> 01:26:30,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean trying to remember at four months what

1907
01:26:31,040 --> 01:26:36,679
Speaker 1: Violletta was doing. You know, her cutest that a baby

1908
01:26:36,720 --> 01:26:39,800
Speaker 1: was six months? That was pete cuteness. Yeah, I'm not

1909
01:26:39,840 --> 01:26:41,400
Speaker 1: sure what to tell you, dude, Like you're not going

1910
01:26:41,479 --> 01:26:44,040
Speaker 1: to sleep. And here's the one thing I think he

1911
01:26:44,160 --> 01:26:47,200
Speaker 1: probably has fucked up. He probably didn't sleep train the

1912
01:26:47,280 --> 01:26:50,839
Speaker 1: kid effectively. So usually what you see is my parents.

1913
01:26:50,840 --> 01:26:53,559
Speaker 1: If they're past the three month mark and they're still like,

1914
01:26:53,600 --> 01:26:55,479
Speaker 1: oh my god, this kid is kicking my ass, it's

1915
01:26:55,479 --> 01:26:57,400
Speaker 1: like you didn't sleep train them, right, because you're supposed

1916
01:26:57,400 --> 01:27:00,599
Speaker 1: to be by twelve weeks, so three months you're supposed

1917
01:27:00,640 --> 01:27:02,040
Speaker 1: to be having them in a rhythm. I realize that

1918
01:27:02,040 --> 01:27:05,960
Speaker 1: there are subsequent sleep aggressions that undo a lot of

1919
01:27:05,960 --> 01:27:07,800
Speaker 1: the progress, but you should be at a state where

1920
01:27:07,800 --> 01:27:10,360
Speaker 1: they're sleeping twelve hours a night or eleven, and you know,

1921
01:27:10,439 --> 01:27:13,800
Speaker 1: whatever the breakup is. If they have a nap by

1922
01:27:13,840 --> 01:27:15,439
Speaker 1: the time you get there, it sounds like he didn't

1923
01:27:15,479 --> 01:27:18,160
Speaker 1: do that, in which case it's never too late to start.

1924
01:27:18,240 --> 01:27:19,680
Speaker 1: But you need to sleep train them. I don't know.

1925
01:27:19,840 --> 01:27:22,160
Speaker 1: I don't know what he's complaining about. To tell him

1926
01:27:22,160 --> 01:27:23,640
Speaker 1: about a four month old dag because that four month

1927
01:27:23,680 --> 01:27:25,840
Speaker 1: ol daughter and a four month old like son, there's

1928
01:27:25,840 --> 01:27:28,679
Speaker 1: not a dramatic difference between them at that point. Right.

1929
01:27:29,320 --> 01:27:32,240
Speaker 2: You use the word rhythm, Luke, if Big Daddy Rountree

1930
01:27:32,240 --> 01:27:35,120
Speaker 2: would have used the rhythm method, he he would you know,

1931
01:27:35,360 --> 01:27:35,799
Speaker 2: he would.

1932
01:27:35,600 --> 01:27:37,679
Speaker 1: Probably have another kid because the rhythm method is utterly

1933
01:27:37,760 --> 01:27:39,000
Speaker 1: unreliable as a form of countrys.

1934
01:27:39,600 --> 01:27:43,120
Speaker 2: First of all big Daddy Ronchry, congratulations, bite down. You

1935
01:27:43,120 --> 01:27:46,280
Speaker 2: know I had twins, Luke, so they always say that's

1936
01:27:46,280 --> 01:27:49,800
Speaker 2: two years of hell, it's really three. But it's great.

1937
01:27:49,800 --> 01:27:52,320
Speaker 2: But it's also great. You'll get through it, you'll sleep again.

1938
01:27:52,680 --> 01:27:55,240
Speaker 2: You're probably drinking more energy drinks and vaping right now.

1939
01:27:55,280 --> 01:27:57,519
Speaker 2: So yeah, hey you're lou Thomas this season of your life.

1940
01:27:57,560 --> 01:28:00,120
Speaker 1: Congratulations again. I'm happy to help, but I have no

1941
01:28:00,200 --> 01:28:03,040
Speaker 1: idea on what level he's complaining about, like about food,

1942
01:28:03,680 --> 01:28:07,519
Speaker 1: about teething, about you know, games to play with them.

1943
01:28:07,560 --> 01:28:09,320
Speaker 1: I don't know what you want me to say, you know, Okay,

1944
01:28:10,400 --> 01:28:14,640
Speaker 1: all right? From Mt Booble, it sounds sounds like my

1945
01:28:14,720 --> 01:28:18,040
Speaker 1: fucking Timeline Muytai and Boobs on the Weekend. All right,

1946
01:28:18,520 --> 01:28:21,839
Speaker 1: Top three non athletes you'd like to have on RSD?

1947
01:28:21,960 --> 01:28:26,240
Speaker 1: Top three non athletes I think we see? Do they

1948
01:28:26,280 --> 01:28:28,200
Speaker 1: have to be I'm so sick of MMA people? Could

1949
01:28:28,200 --> 01:28:29,280
Speaker 1: they be someone not in MMA?

1950
01:28:30,080 --> 01:28:32,840
Speaker 2: I know he also had it like Hulk Cogan had

1951
01:28:32,840 --> 01:28:35,200
Speaker 2: his own N word debacle, which really makes me pause

1952
01:28:35,240 --> 01:28:37,320
Speaker 2: in saying this, But I've always been intrigued by Dog

1953
01:28:37,320 --> 01:28:38,880
Speaker 2: the bounty hunter, Luke, if we can get him on

1954
01:28:38,880 --> 01:28:41,320
Speaker 2: the RSD count actually.

1955
01:28:41,520 --> 01:28:43,640
Speaker 1: No interest less than zero interests.

1956
01:28:43,880 --> 01:28:47,360
Speaker 2: All right, give me a name a non athlete, celebrity,

1957
01:28:47,920 --> 01:28:50,719
Speaker 2: known person that you would just think would be perfect

1958
01:28:50,720 --> 01:28:53,760
Speaker 2: for this. I mean many musicians, right, many musicians I'd

1959
01:28:53,760 --> 01:28:54,120
Speaker 2: be into.

1960
01:28:54,479 --> 01:28:58,719
Speaker 1: But I'll tell you, like, what about getting a very

1961
01:28:58,920 --> 01:29:02,680
Speaker 1: high level success full creator from YouTube, So like an

1962
01:29:02,800 --> 01:29:07,479
Speaker 1: MKBHD or a mister Beast, something like that, Keith Lee?

1963
01:29:07,560 --> 01:29:08,320
Speaker 2: How about that, Luke?

1964
01:29:09,479 --> 01:29:12,040
Speaker 1: Keith Lee wouldn't be a bad one. But about also, like,

1965
01:29:12,080 --> 01:29:13,880
Speaker 1: where would you put Schwarzenegger at this point?

1966
01:29:13,880 --> 01:29:15,640
Speaker 2: Because I know he was Yeah, so I guess the

1967
01:29:15,680 --> 01:29:17,919
Speaker 2: answer would be Arnold, He'd be up there. He'd definitely

1968
01:29:17,920 --> 01:29:19,720
Speaker 2: be up there, no question about it.

1969
01:29:19,800 --> 01:29:22,000
Speaker 1: What you Okay, you can pick one musician who's alive.

1970
01:29:22,080 --> 01:29:22,720
Speaker 1: What would you pick?

1971
01:29:22,880 --> 01:29:24,960
Speaker 2: We can't say brock Lessner. Is he considered an athlete?

1972
01:29:24,960 --> 01:29:26,800
Speaker 1: Still? Yeah? All right?

1973
01:29:26,880 --> 01:29:28,640
Speaker 2: I mean brock Lesner would be a would be a

1974
01:29:28,720 --> 01:29:33,400
Speaker 2: dream that would be a dream musician. Ah God, I

1975
01:29:33,439 --> 01:29:37,200
Speaker 2: mean I could go a million ways, Luke, anyone's still alive,

1976
01:29:37,280 --> 01:29:41,080
Speaker 2: I mean I can go yeah, I don't, I don't

1977
01:29:41,080 --> 01:29:43,679
Speaker 2: know what would what the go to in this case

1978
01:29:43,720 --> 01:29:46,320
Speaker 2: would be most of my favorite musicians are dead Luke. Unfortunately,

1979
01:29:46,360 --> 01:29:47,719
Speaker 2: so it's not you know what I'm saying.

1980
01:29:48,400 --> 01:29:50,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, what did Cat Stevens change his name to Yusuf

1981
01:29:50,920 --> 01:29:51,880
Speaker 1: Islam something like that?

1982
01:29:52,000 --> 01:29:53,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, some useff something like that.

1983
01:29:53,720 --> 01:29:57,880
Speaker 1: Yeah. Uh, I'm not trying. I'm trying to think, so

1984
01:29:58,080 --> 01:30:02,719
Speaker 1: Schwartz think would be one. If Carl Sagan were still alive,

1985
01:30:02,760 --> 01:30:04,439
Speaker 1: he'd be one. I read almost all of his books

1986
01:30:04,439 --> 01:30:09,759
Speaker 1: when I was a kid. Rocco, Carl Sagan, he's astrophysicist.

1987
01:30:10,040 --> 01:30:12,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I know what he is. I'm talking about, Rocco.

1988
01:30:12,880 --> 01:30:16,759
Speaker 1: Is he on your list, Freddy? Yeah, dude, I can't

1989
01:30:16,800 --> 01:30:19,240
Speaker 1: stand these fucking guys who just breathe through their teeth.

1990
01:30:20,120 --> 01:30:22,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, that guy's grossy fuckings.

1991
01:30:22,080 --> 01:30:25,400
Speaker 1: So gross, Like fucking stop breathing through your teeth, you sick. Fuck.

1992
01:30:27,160 --> 01:30:29,800
Speaker 2: Come on, think of somebody awesome, Luke, Who are we

1993
01:30:29,880 --> 01:30:31,960
Speaker 2: not saying? There's a go to out there?

1994
01:30:33,160 --> 01:30:34,560
Speaker 1: Got to be a woman, right, We don't talk to

1995
01:30:34,680 --> 01:30:35,160
Speaker 1: enough of them?

1996
01:30:35,960 --> 01:30:37,439
Speaker 2: Does she have to be Latino? Luke?

1997
01:30:37,720 --> 01:30:40,400
Speaker 1: No, No, certainly, not certainly not all right?

1998
01:30:40,960 --> 01:30:41,479
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1999
01:30:41,880 --> 01:30:42,240
Speaker 1: I don't know.

2000
01:30:43,000 --> 01:30:45,040
Speaker 2: Is that still a show, Luke? Is our room service

2001
01:30:45,080 --> 01:30:46,000
Speaker 2: diary is still a thing?

2002
01:30:46,000 --> 01:30:47,679
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know. Yeah, that's a great question.

2003
01:30:47,760 --> 01:30:49,800
Speaker 1: I don't know how to answer that one. I'm glad

2004
01:30:49,800 --> 01:30:50,840
Speaker 1: you asked. I don't know.

2005
01:30:52,720 --> 01:30:53,760
Speaker 2: I've been hoping for a while.

2006
01:30:54,160 --> 01:30:56,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. All right, Last, but not least,

2007
01:30:56,760 --> 01:31:01,920
Speaker 1: here be see from Volley Jerry, congrats on opening Factory

2008
01:31:01,920 --> 01:31:05,120
Speaker 1: Town MMA. Who does MK hire for striking, BJJ, wrestling

2009
01:31:05,120 --> 01:31:06,040
Speaker 1: and strength and conditioning?

2010
01:31:06,240 --> 01:31:08,000
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Luckily.

2011
01:31:07,680 --> 01:31:10,120
Speaker 1: Everyone is suddenly a free agent, so pick any coaches

2012
01:31:10,160 --> 01:31:12,600
Speaker 1: from any camps around the world. Factory Town Heart is

2013
01:31:12,640 --> 01:31:15,920
Speaker 1: the new got that dog in him. He got that

2014
01:31:16,000 --> 01:31:17,320
Speaker 1: Factory Town heart.

2015
01:31:17,200 --> 01:31:19,400
Speaker 2: I mean lionheart. Anthony Smith will be a player coach.

2016
01:31:19,439 --> 01:31:21,160
Speaker 2: He'll be our first He'll be our first hire.

2017
01:31:21,240 --> 01:31:23,599
Speaker 1: Right, Luke, Yeah, Luke, Naida, says Ray Longo. I mean,

2018
01:31:23,600 --> 01:31:25,639
Speaker 1: I don't know how you pick anyone but Ray Longo,

2019
01:31:25,720 --> 01:31:26,479
Speaker 1: Ray long Phil.

2020
01:31:27,920 --> 01:31:30,439
Speaker 2: By the way, Ray Longo sent me a really really

2021
01:31:30,479 --> 01:31:33,280
Speaker 2: sweet text after our all right speaking to RSD. That

2022
01:31:33,360 --> 01:31:35,360
Speaker 2: might have been our best room service diaries we ever

2023
01:31:35,400 --> 01:31:38,559
Speaker 2: did with with coach Longo. And uh, he looked seemed

2024
01:31:38,640 --> 01:31:44,160
Speaker 2: genuinely you know, touched by the by the outcry of

2025
01:31:44,200 --> 01:31:46,439
Speaker 2: the MK fan base to embrace him after that.

2026
01:31:47,760 --> 01:31:51,080
Speaker 1: Well, they he's hard to dislike, unlike you and me,

2027
01:31:51,160 --> 01:31:53,320
Speaker 1: and especially me. He's actually hard to dislike.

2028
01:31:53,680 --> 01:31:55,600
Speaker 2: Do we get Craig Jones, luc or do we have

2029
01:31:55,640 --> 01:31:57,240
Speaker 2: to a great choice?

2030
01:31:57,360 --> 01:32:01,280
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, Craig Jones, what a great choice, great guy,

2031
01:32:01,400 --> 01:32:04,360
Speaker 1: so Phil Ray, Craig Jones, I might have the one

2032
01:32:04,360 --> 01:32:06,360
Speaker 1: to carry. And Fitzgibbons in there as well, he's great.

2033
01:32:06,520 --> 01:32:08,679
Speaker 1: Dean Thomas is pretty great coach.

2034
01:32:09,200 --> 01:32:11,160
Speaker 2: No, no, no, not him. Dean Thomas will be part

2035
01:32:11,160 --> 01:32:13,920
Speaker 2: of the factory town him in May. What about well, dude,

2036
01:32:13,960 --> 01:32:15,880
Speaker 2: I mean, can we just poach Mike Thomas Brown too?

2037
01:32:15,880 --> 01:32:17,599
Speaker 2: I mean, he might be the best coach in the game.

2038
01:32:17,600 --> 01:32:19,720
Speaker 2: Can we make him the head coach? Him and Ray

2039
01:32:19,720 --> 01:32:22,439
Speaker 2: Longo the two lead coaches? Luke? Oh, how about just

2040
01:32:22,560 --> 01:32:25,000
Speaker 2: for interviews? We get Eric Albersin.

2041
01:32:27,240 --> 01:32:29,760
Speaker 1: Agreed, Mike, he's asking about Darul. Yeah, already said to Rue,

2042
01:32:29,840 --> 01:32:31,679
Speaker 1: already said to Rue. For sure him. He's an easy

2043
01:32:31,720 --> 01:32:32,200
Speaker 1: one to go to.

2044
01:32:32,640 --> 01:32:34,639
Speaker 2: You know, he loves that sled thing that he has,

2045
01:32:34,720 --> 01:32:35,960
Speaker 2: that thing that makes people throw up.

2046
01:32:36,000 --> 01:32:39,320
Speaker 1: Luke the prowler sled, Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh. And then

2047
01:32:39,360 --> 01:32:41,439
Speaker 1: Luke Necid is like, what about Joshua Fabia is like

2048
01:32:41,439 --> 01:32:43,599
Speaker 1: a spiritual advisor and I'm like, yes.

2049
01:32:43,760 --> 01:32:45,920
Speaker 2: He could be our weapons advisor. Yeah, remember he.

2050
01:32:45,880 --> 01:32:49,400
Speaker 1: Was BJ Penn said CTE wasn't real, and also that

2051
01:32:49,640 --> 01:32:52,519
Speaker 1: in twenty fifty we're going to be teleported back to

2052
01:32:52,520 --> 01:32:55,559
Speaker 1: the year eighteen fifty and that dinosaurs were fake.

2053
01:32:56,160 --> 01:32:57,479
Speaker 2: Dude, you know what fixes the thing?

2054
01:32:57,520 --> 01:32:58,599
Speaker 1: He ran for governor? You know?

2055
01:32:59,080 --> 01:33:01,639
Speaker 2: Do you know what fixes look? Nicotine patches?

2056
01:33:02,720 --> 01:33:03,160
Speaker 1: Does it?

2057
01:33:03,680 --> 01:33:06,160
Speaker 2: I don't know. Some people, some comedians like, are always

2058
01:33:06,160 --> 01:33:06,960
Speaker 2: putting them in there.

2059
01:33:06,800 --> 01:33:09,400
Speaker 1: Thinking that, Oh, I see, sorry, I misunderstood. I thought

2060
01:33:09,439 --> 01:33:10,360
Speaker 1: you were being genuine.

2061
01:33:10,400 --> 01:33:13,519
Speaker 2: You were just No, that's where I heard it. Isn't that?

2062
01:33:13,520 --> 01:33:15,000
Speaker 2: Why isn't that? That's why I heard it?

2063
01:33:15,840 --> 01:33:17,479
Speaker 1: I have no clue. I have no clue what the

2064
01:33:17,560 --> 01:33:20,120
Speaker 1: fun that ship does. I've been tempted. You ever try

2065
01:33:20,160 --> 01:33:22,880
Speaker 1: a nicotine patch? I've never tried one. I've never tried one,

2066
01:33:23,160 --> 01:33:24,960
Speaker 1: but I see them at the seven to eleven, and

2067
01:33:25,000 --> 01:33:26,479
Speaker 1: I'm always about bandits.

2068
01:33:26,520 --> 01:33:28,679
Speaker 2: Look, I used to put bandits in there.

2069
01:33:29,200 --> 01:33:32,320
Speaker 1: Well, bandits are just for children. I mean, I don't

2070
01:33:32,360 --> 01:33:33,360
Speaker 1: like you know who else?

2071
01:33:33,400 --> 01:33:34,400
Speaker 2: To't swallow that ship.

2072
01:33:34,560 --> 01:33:38,519
Speaker 1: You can't. You can't. You can't do that, dude.

2073
01:33:38,600 --> 01:33:41,280
Speaker 2: If you swallow once, you never come back from that

2074
01:33:41,280 --> 01:33:42,160
Speaker 2: that that one.

2075
01:33:42,439 --> 01:33:46,360
Speaker 1: I had instructors who swallowed it, who swallowed tobacco juice

2076
01:33:47,040 --> 01:33:49,080
Speaker 1: every time they used it all day.

2077
01:33:48,880 --> 01:33:51,360
Speaker 2: Long while running all day long. Yes, you hung around

2078
01:33:51,439 --> 01:33:54,080
Speaker 2: gross Americans. I remember that. But look, you know that

2079
01:33:54,200 --> 01:33:56,559
Speaker 2: the worst what is the most violent puke you can

2080
01:33:56,600 --> 01:34:01,240
Speaker 2: have the ship I swallowed tobacco. I'm eighteen years old

2081
01:34:01,280 --> 01:34:02,840
Speaker 2: and now I'm laying down on the middle of the

2082
01:34:02,920 --> 01:34:06,120
Speaker 2: road trying to like pull up energy to stand up again.

2083
01:34:06,160 --> 01:34:08,600
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, that's yeah, that'll do it to you.

2084
01:34:08,680 --> 01:34:10,439
Speaker 1: That'll do it to you. But I had to do

2085
01:34:10,520 --> 01:34:13,519
Speaker 1: Those fuckers. Were those dudes at boot camp. They were hard, dude,

2086
01:34:13,960 --> 01:34:14,599
Speaker 1: they were tough.

2087
01:34:14,920 --> 01:34:17,840
Speaker 2: They were They're tough as shit. Luke. Speaking of shit, Luke,

2088
01:34:18,320 --> 01:34:21,320
Speaker 2: you know what I did? Yeah, I scholared the globe

2089
01:34:21,360 --> 01:34:23,639
Speaker 2: for the highs and lows, the good, the bad, the ugly,

2090
01:34:23,680 --> 01:34:26,879
Speaker 2: the in between, and the worlds of combat sports and beyond.

2091
01:34:26,960 --> 01:34:30,200
Speaker 2: And by beyond, Luke, I mean both elder and young

2092
01:34:30,240 --> 01:34:32,880
Speaker 2: abuse coming at you. This one's called have you seen

2093
01:34:32,920 --> 01:34:33,240
Speaker 2: this shit?

2094
01:34:44,520 --> 01:34:46,400
Speaker 1: Did we play the new intro? I couldn't hear it.

2095
01:34:46,479 --> 01:34:48,320
Speaker 2: I couldn't hear it. It was broken in my ear. I

2096
01:34:48,360 --> 01:34:49,839
Speaker 2: couldn't hear it did.

2097
01:34:49,640 --> 01:34:52,920
Speaker 1: We probably probably not, Oh we did. We did very good.

2098
01:34:53,000 --> 01:34:53,120
Speaker 3: Right.

2099
01:34:54,080 --> 01:34:55,920
Speaker 2: We got to figure out that guy's name who made that.

2100
01:34:56,240 --> 01:34:57,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, we just stole it from him. We didn't even

2101
01:34:57,640 --> 01:34:58,439
Speaker 1: sign any paperwork.

2102
01:34:58,840 --> 01:35:01,120
Speaker 2: Eventually, I'll turn on us all of our biggest fans.

2103
01:35:01,160 --> 01:35:04,200
Speaker 2: Do looke UFC Fight Night at the damn Apex kicks

2104
01:35:04,240 --> 01:35:07,320
Speaker 2: it off. Here's how it started for Norma Dumont and

2105
01:35:07,400 --> 01:35:09,120
Speaker 2: Chelsea Chandler. Let's go to the way in.

2106
01:35:13,200 --> 01:35:16,320
Speaker 1: Stay in the face of loose fing pussy. Okay, all right,

2107
01:35:16,360 --> 01:35:18,519
Speaker 1: this is my kind of content.

2108
01:35:19,720 --> 01:35:23,120
Speaker 2: And luke how it started. Here's how it's going. For Chandler,

2109
01:35:23,160 --> 01:35:26,000
Speaker 2: we met, We mentioned it. It worked out for her,

2110
01:35:26,080 --> 01:35:28,479
Speaker 2: so I can't clown it. But once she tasted that power,

2111
01:35:28,560 --> 01:35:30,000
Speaker 2: she was out of there. Yeah.

2112
01:35:30,040 --> 01:35:31,720
Speaker 1: I mean, here's the thing about getting upset with that,

2113
01:35:31,840 --> 01:35:36,120
Speaker 1: Like I get why she is defensive and that you know, hey,

2114
01:35:36,240 --> 01:35:37,920
Speaker 1: it worked for me, like I was gonna get I

2115
01:35:37,960 --> 01:35:39,840
Speaker 1: was getting drilled and I found a place to go

2116
01:35:40,000 --> 01:35:42,920
Speaker 1: and be, you know, recover. But like you also just

2117
01:35:42,920 --> 01:35:44,720
Speaker 1: got to have some self awareness, like how much I've

2118
01:35:44,720 --> 01:35:48,040
Speaker 1: been watching MMA fights for you know, first time I

2119
01:35:48,040 --> 01:35:50,120
Speaker 1: saw MMA was back when it was NHB in nineteen

2120
01:35:50,200 --> 01:35:53,120
Speaker 1: ninety four. Yeah, like, I don't think I've seen that

2121
01:35:53,240 --> 01:35:55,519
Speaker 1: particularly that kind of like a linear just getting the

2122
01:35:55,520 --> 01:35:58,040
Speaker 1: fuck out of here thing. Ever in an MMA fight.

2123
01:35:58,680 --> 01:36:00,719
Speaker 2: Back then people be like, Luke, what's your weekend plans?

2124
01:36:00,760 --> 01:36:03,840
Speaker 2: In ninety four You're like, NHB and GHB. I mean

2125
01:36:03,880 --> 01:36:09,320
Speaker 2: that's a real American fourte oh, Luke, I will say

2126
01:36:09,360 --> 01:36:13,560
Speaker 2: that overim Ran like that against Neo Chitchen. Then he

2127
01:36:13,600 --> 01:36:14,880
Speaker 2: tapped him out like right after that.

2128
01:36:14,920 --> 01:36:17,920
Speaker 1: Remember, I don't think he ran him quite like that.

2129
01:36:18,600 --> 01:36:21,360
Speaker 2: Elistair felt it, Luke. Let's go over to Eileen Perez.

2130
01:36:21,479 --> 01:36:23,519
Speaker 2: She was in the curtain Jerker winning for my Okay

2131
01:36:23,640 --> 01:36:26,600
Speaker 2: bet streak this week, Luke, But then she did the

2132
01:36:26,720 --> 01:36:32,120
Speaker 2: victory booty dance heard round the world right at your

2133
01:36:32,120 --> 01:36:34,280
Speaker 2: boy DC and Fabio Busque.

2134
01:36:34,479 --> 01:36:37,559
Speaker 1: Luke. You know that's definitely not the first time she's

2135
01:36:37,600 --> 01:36:37,880
Speaker 1: done that.

2136
01:36:38,560 --> 01:36:40,640
Speaker 2: Well, Luke, there was video that I didn't grab in

2137
01:36:40,720 --> 01:36:43,160
Speaker 2: time of her doing that in the casino a couple

2138
01:36:43,200 --> 01:36:45,760
Speaker 2: hours after the fight, but she also did it in

2139
01:36:45,880 --> 01:36:49,280
Speaker 2: the locker room with her opponent afterwards. Here's her and

2140
01:36:49,360 --> 01:36:51,160
Speaker 2: Ashley Evan Smith getting after it.

2141
01:36:55,479 --> 01:36:58,920
Speaker 1: Okay, that's a lot, well, Luke, we.

2142
01:36:58,960 --> 01:37:02,800
Speaker 2: Go from as shaking good times to catastrophic injury. Here's

2143
01:37:02,840 --> 01:37:05,200
Speaker 2: women's strowweight estella Newness.

2144
01:37:06,439 --> 01:37:10,000
Speaker 1: Uh oh gosh, yeah, that's pretty fucking good.

2145
01:37:10,080 --> 01:37:14,880
Speaker 2: Yes, that's the wow. Oh yeah, yeah, I'll tumble for you.

2146
01:37:15,080 --> 01:37:18,080
Speaker 2: That's uh. You know she did catch her own fall, Luke,

2147
01:37:18,160 --> 01:37:19,160
Speaker 2: but wow.

2148
01:37:19,600 --> 01:37:21,920
Speaker 1: You gotta work on those break falls. Kids. Don't post

2149
01:37:21,960 --> 01:37:22,439
Speaker 1: your hands.

2150
01:37:22,680 --> 01:37:24,960
Speaker 2: Indeed, Hey, you want to see the counter counter punch

2151
01:37:24,960 --> 01:37:27,840
Speaker 2: of the week, Luke, Sure, all right, let's go to

2152
01:37:27,880 --> 01:37:30,160
Speaker 2: the practice session. We'll slow it down for you so

2153
01:37:30,200 --> 01:37:33,840
Speaker 2: you can see it coming. So you got to duck

2154
01:37:33,920 --> 01:37:35,160
Speaker 2: under the right hand right.

2155
01:37:35,600 --> 01:37:38,679
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. It's gonna get drilled to the body.

2156
01:37:39,800 --> 01:38:00,280
Speaker 2: All this shot the perfect watches super slow motion. H

2157
01:38:05,360 --> 01:38:07,360
Speaker 2: what are we at the Mayweather McGregor willand.

2158
01:38:10,800 --> 01:38:10,840
Speaker 3: H.

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01:38:13,280 --> 01:38:16,800
Speaker 1: I'm not even laughing at how fucking stupid this video is.

2160
01:38:17,560 --> 01:38:20,519
Speaker 1: I'm laughing at your reaction that we're the mad he

2161
01:38:20,560 --> 01:38:23,000
Speaker 1: had My man had a frozen steak in his dungarees.

2162
01:38:24,800 --> 01:38:26,880
Speaker 2: That's a hell of a counter shot, Luke. It's called

2163
01:38:26,880 --> 01:38:30,280
Speaker 2: the crouch counter. Let's go over to uh my favorite thing, Luke,

2164
01:38:30,320 --> 01:38:34,519
Speaker 2: Combat Sports Stars in the wild. All right, this is

2165
01:38:34,600 --> 01:38:38,000
Speaker 2: Alexander Usak in his face off to announce his mandatory

2166
01:38:38,280 --> 01:39:02,559
Speaker 2: title defense against Daniel Dubois. Listening, what do you think

2167
01:39:02,600 --> 01:39:03,800
Speaker 2: of his freestyle there? Luke?

2168
01:39:06,040 --> 01:39:08,800
Speaker 1: Never give him a microphone again? Yeah?

2169
01:39:08,840 --> 01:39:11,360
Speaker 2: All right, we got more stars caught in the wild.

2170
01:39:11,400 --> 01:39:15,200
Speaker 2: Here's Bo Nicol still wearing his Venom fight kit a

2171
01:39:15,240 --> 01:39:18,200
Speaker 2: couple hours after his UFC two ninety win, hooping it up.

2172
01:39:19,720 --> 01:39:23,639
Speaker 1: Now, was this pre or post taking photos of Trump?

2173
01:39:23,680 --> 01:39:25,879
Speaker 1: I don't know. That was a big scandal in the timeline.

2174
01:39:25,880 --> 01:39:26,759
Speaker 1: That was a big scandal.

2175
01:39:26,840 --> 01:39:30,160
Speaker 2: It certainly was. He's a little rickety with the movements,

2176
01:39:30,200 --> 01:39:31,599
Speaker 2: but it worked. The shot went in.

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01:39:31,840 --> 01:39:33,920
Speaker 1: I mean he fought for what thirty eight seconds? He

2178
01:39:34,000 --> 01:39:35,720
Speaker 1: had more time to kill you know what I mean.

2179
01:39:36,160 --> 01:39:39,599
Speaker 2: Let's go to the SPS after party at ESPN. Here's

2180
01:39:39,720 --> 01:39:53,639
Speaker 2: John Jones, Volkanowski and Leon Edwards getting down and dirty.

2181
01:39:55,320 --> 01:39:59,080
Speaker 1: How do you feel about John drinking? Serious question?

2182
01:40:12,080 --> 01:40:14,880
Speaker 2: So many goats there? You know, it is what it is.

2183
01:40:14,920 --> 01:40:16,560
Speaker 2: I don't love it, Luke, but he doesn't seem like

2184
01:40:16,600 --> 01:40:20,080
Speaker 2: he wants to change, so he's gonna.

2185
01:40:19,760 --> 01:40:21,080
Speaker 1: I'm not one of these guys who are like, oh,

2186
01:40:21,160 --> 01:40:22,840
Speaker 1: I know what's best for him and he shouldn't be

2187
01:40:22,880 --> 01:40:24,320
Speaker 1: drinking there. I don't know what's best for him. I

2188
01:40:24,320 --> 01:40:27,639
Speaker 1: have no clue, but I do sort of see this stuff,

2189
01:40:27,680 --> 01:40:29,519
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I hope he can stay out of

2190
01:40:29,520 --> 01:40:30,360
Speaker 1: trouble because.

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01:40:32,000 --> 01:40:35,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, unfortunately, I'm not surprised by where he's still at

2192
01:40:35,720 --> 01:40:38,439
Speaker 2: because I remember, after like the second major scandal he

2193
01:40:38,479 --> 01:40:42,280
Speaker 2: had involving drugs, I interviewed him at ESPN and was like, Okay,

2194
01:40:42,320 --> 01:40:44,320
Speaker 2: so now that you've got you know, gone through a

2195
01:40:44,360 --> 01:40:47,360
Speaker 2: couple of things that could have completely derailed you, Like

2196
01:40:47,760 --> 01:40:49,680
Speaker 2: what type of changes are you making? I remember him

2197
01:40:49,680 --> 01:40:51,439
Speaker 2: telling me like, you know, I'm still going to the

2198
01:40:51,439 --> 01:40:53,439
Speaker 2: club with all my boys. I'm just I'm just, you know,

2199
01:40:53,479 --> 01:40:57,240
Speaker 2: I'm just not doing drugs anymore. I'm like, you're, yeah,

2200
01:40:57,600 --> 01:40:58,759
Speaker 2: still going to clubs.

2201
01:40:58,840 --> 01:41:01,000
Speaker 1: Like that's I want to say it one more time.

2202
01:41:01,000 --> 01:41:02,519
Speaker 1: Remember he got arrested in the middle of the pandemic

2203
01:41:02,560 --> 01:41:05,559
Speaker 1: for just shooting off guns and abandoned downtown Albuquerque. Yeah,

2204
01:41:05,600 --> 01:41:08,679
Speaker 1: like he had a requerto bottle in his fucking cars.

2205
01:41:08,720 --> 01:41:10,280
Speaker 1: Like I'm not there. It sounds like, I'm like, oh,

2206
01:41:10,320 --> 01:41:12,280
Speaker 1: here's this great moment between Like they're making fun of

2207
01:41:12,320 --> 01:41:15,320
Speaker 1: Volkanofsky for like basically shadow boxing.

2208
01:41:15,479 --> 01:41:17,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, you didn't let us have the spirit of the moment,

2209
01:41:17,560 --> 01:41:17,840
Speaker 2: was him?

2210
01:41:17,920 --> 01:41:19,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I did not. I did not. I completely interrupted

2211
01:41:19,880 --> 01:41:21,040
Speaker 1: the spirit of the moment. How can you look at

2212
01:41:21,040 --> 01:41:24,880
Speaker 1: a guy who's had multiple issues with drinking alcohol getting

2213
01:41:24,880 --> 01:41:27,280
Speaker 1: into this like pretty significant trouble and then just being like, oh,

2214
01:41:27,320 --> 01:41:29,519
Speaker 1: here he is again drinking. I guess, like, I don't know.

2215
01:41:29,560 --> 01:41:30,720
Speaker 1: It's a little weird if you ask me.

2216
01:41:31,240 --> 01:41:33,760
Speaker 2: He was very happy Luke. Jamal Murray also shouted him

2217
01:41:33,800 --> 01:41:36,840
Speaker 2: out during his Comeback Player of the Year acceptance speech,

2218
01:41:36,840 --> 01:41:39,920
Speaker 2: saying it very well could have been John. Let's go

2219
01:41:40,000 --> 01:41:42,879
Speaker 2: over to Brandon Moreno, Luke. He made his pro wrestling

2220
01:41:42,960 --> 01:41:46,840
Speaker 2: debut in Mexico at Triple Mania. That's Moreno on the left.

2221
01:41:46,840 --> 01:41:47,800
Speaker 2: Tell me what you think of this.

2222
01:41:49,280 --> 01:41:50,320
Speaker 1: I think it's dumbest shit.

2223
01:41:57,120 --> 01:42:02,559
Speaker 2: He's not going to take that lightly. Oh God, already

2224
01:42:02,560 --> 01:42:06,000
Speaker 2: better than Tyson Fury and Kane Flaska's I'm.

2225
01:42:05,840 --> 01:42:08,920
Speaker 1: Not saying much. I thought Kine was pretty good.

2226
01:42:09,320 --> 01:42:12,920
Speaker 2: Actually, Kane physically could could could do the moves very well. Yes, yes,

2227
01:42:12,960 --> 01:42:13,680
Speaker 2: he couldn't.

2228
01:42:13,360 --> 01:42:15,680
Speaker 1: Talk the personality of a turnip right, that was.

2229
01:42:15,680 --> 01:42:18,800
Speaker 2: Absolutely right, right, absolutely. Tyson Fury was just awful. He

2230
01:42:18,920 --> 01:42:19,439
Speaker 2: was awful.

2231
01:42:19,840 --> 01:42:23,080
Speaker 1: Uh. That's surprising because Tyson Fury has a big personality.

2232
01:42:23,080 --> 01:42:24,400
Speaker 1: I'm surprised he sucks so much.

2233
01:42:24,600 --> 01:42:26,679
Speaker 2: I mean he could talk, yeah, but he was so bad,

2234
01:42:26,760 --> 01:42:30,160
Speaker 2: comically bad in the movement's Luke, speaking of Vulk, did

2235
01:42:30,160 --> 01:42:33,559
Speaker 2: you know he joined Attasania for a little bit of

2236
01:42:33,600 --> 01:42:36,639
Speaker 2: Matt Rowland. No, not with John DuPont, Luke, with Ad Zuck.

2237
01:42:37,000 --> 01:42:38,519
Speaker 2: Here's the pictures to prove it.

2238
01:42:38,880 --> 01:42:40,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's pretty disappointing to see this, but what are

2239
01:42:40,960 --> 01:42:41,400
Speaker 1: you gonna do?

2240
01:42:41,880 --> 01:42:44,280
Speaker 2: So your boy bo Nicol took the Trump picture and

2241
01:42:44,320 --> 01:42:46,160
Speaker 2: now these two are hanging out with your one of

2242
01:42:46,160 --> 01:42:50,360
Speaker 2: your other uh disliked billionaires, Luke, I mean, what do

2243
01:42:50,360 --> 01:42:52,599
Speaker 2: you think about as at zucks abs though he's getting

2244
01:42:52,640 --> 01:42:53,800
Speaker 2: after it right, he.

2245
01:42:53,880 --> 01:42:56,520
Speaker 1: Must have a good chemist.

2246
01:42:56,720 --> 01:42:59,840
Speaker 2: Well, Luke, they didn't just roll around Your C K

2247
01:43:00,120 --> 01:43:03,479
Speaker 2: B boys also went out on the high seas with Zuck.

2248
01:43:04,320 --> 01:43:07,400
Speaker 2: This is Sonya showing off software.

2249
01:43:07,520 --> 01:43:11,240
Speaker 1: Dude, There's there are no consequences at all for rich

2250
01:43:11,320 --> 01:43:14,679
Speaker 1: people in this world. Nothing doesn't matter what you've done.

2251
01:43:14,880 --> 01:43:18,120
Speaker 2: Okay, well, hold on, you're lumping Zuck into kadirov territory

2252
01:43:18,160 --> 01:43:18,760
Speaker 2: when we show up.

2253
01:43:18,880 --> 01:43:20,280
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, no, I'm not saying he should

2254
01:43:20,280 --> 01:43:22,720
Speaker 1: be like, well, dude, Kadirov is like, you know, I

2255
01:43:22,800 --> 01:43:24,720
Speaker 1: mean we're talking about like a warlord. I mean of

2256
01:43:24,760 --> 01:43:28,400
Speaker 1: the worst variety. I don't think that, but I mean

2257
01:43:28,560 --> 01:43:32,959
Speaker 1: the record is clear. Just Google Rohindia, Muslims and Facebook.

2258
01:43:32,960 --> 01:43:36,160
Speaker 1: In twenty sixteen twenty seventeen, the only way to get

2259
01:43:36,240 --> 01:43:39,040
Speaker 1: Internet for a huge portion of people in me and

2260
01:43:39,120 --> 01:43:42,200
Speaker 1: Mar was to use a Zuckerberg either basically was Facebook.

2261
01:43:42,320 --> 01:43:44,120
Speaker 1: Was firstly through a company called Internet dot Org, but

2262
01:43:44,160 --> 01:43:45,800
Speaker 1: then Facebook was the only way to get it. They

2263
01:43:45,840 --> 01:43:49,120
Speaker 1: were expressly warned they only had two native speakers of

2264
01:43:49,640 --> 01:43:52,400
Speaker 1: the language that people were using at the time, and

2265
01:43:52,479 --> 01:43:55,240
Speaker 1: they were expressly warned that there were a ton of

2266
01:43:55,320 --> 01:44:02,479
Speaker 1: people fostering serious anti We'rehingka Muslim rhetoric throughout the course

2267
01:44:02,520 --> 01:44:04,679
Speaker 1: of the country on their services. They didn't do fuck

2268
01:44:04,760 --> 01:44:06,920
Speaker 1: all about it. They refused to do anything about it.

2269
01:44:07,080 --> 01:44:10,280
Speaker 1: And then of course there were atrocities left and right,

2270
01:44:10,479 --> 01:44:13,600
Speaker 1: massive displacement of people. And this was one of the

2271
01:44:13,760 --> 01:44:16,599
Speaker 1: primary tools of communication during that time in that country

2272
01:44:16,720 --> 01:44:19,040
Speaker 1: was Facebook. Now, later on Mark Zuckerberg went and I

2273
01:44:19,080 --> 01:44:21,160
Speaker 1: think tried to make amends for it, but they were

2274
01:44:21,200 --> 01:44:24,120
Speaker 1: expressly warned about it, did nothing about it, and it

2275
01:44:24,280 --> 01:44:26,760
Speaker 1: caused a lot of problems. The only point being is

2276
01:44:26,840 --> 01:44:28,360
Speaker 1: like does he belong in jail? No, that's not what

2277
01:44:28,439 --> 01:44:31,479
Speaker 1: I'm saying, but like just inviting him into the circle

2278
01:44:31,560 --> 01:44:34,240
Speaker 1: of friendship. It's like, dude, this guy should be like

2279
01:44:34,400 --> 01:44:38,559
Speaker 1: you shouldn't even like in any way have any social

2280
01:44:38,640 --> 01:44:40,400
Speaker 1: relationship with him. But you know, people don't give a

2281
01:44:40,439 --> 01:44:40,920
Speaker 1: fuck what I think.

2282
01:44:41,000 --> 01:44:42,880
Speaker 2: You're your heroes. Look, I'm just bringing.

2283
01:44:42,760 --> 01:44:45,400
Speaker 1: Enjoy I guess enjoy the enjoy the boat.

2284
01:44:45,479 --> 01:44:48,200
Speaker 2: The meet your heroes, Luke, because we're on a boat, baby,

2285
01:44:48,240 --> 01:44:50,560
Speaker 2: and we are living it up. Luke. What if what

2286
01:44:50,800 --> 01:44:54,880
Speaker 2: if Elon suddenly started liking this show and he's like, hey,

2287
01:44:54,920 --> 01:44:56,160
Speaker 2: you guys want to come out on the boat?

2288
01:44:56,360 --> 01:44:58,360
Speaker 1: Which I've never said this, So I've never said this.

2289
01:44:58,560 --> 01:45:01,160
Speaker 1: No one Elon famous has ever messaged me. But I've

2290
01:45:01,240 --> 01:45:03,799
Speaker 1: had including in the last year, I've had very famous

2291
01:45:03,840 --> 01:45:07,200
Speaker 1: people message me who I thought were fucking dirt bags

2292
01:45:07,600 --> 01:45:13,519
Speaker 1: and never replied name I can, I'll to you off

2293
01:45:13,560 --> 01:45:15,200
Speaker 1: the show. I will do that. I will happily be

2294
01:45:15,240 --> 01:45:17,439
Speaker 1: I'll even show it to you. I don't mind. But

2295
01:45:18,160 --> 01:45:23,160
Speaker 1: like this idea that like because they're famous, which one

2296
01:45:23,240 --> 01:45:25,080
Speaker 1: of them was one of them wasn't well, actually, no,

2297
01:45:25,160 --> 01:45:26,400
Speaker 1: that's not true. That's not true.

2298
01:45:26,680 --> 01:45:29,080
Speaker 2: Was that comedy were featured in Rolling Stone by any chance?

2299
01:45:29,200 --> 01:45:34,120
Speaker 1: Luke? No, no, no, no, no, no no no no.

2300
01:45:34,360 --> 01:45:36,080
Speaker 1: I know you're talking about I wish, I wish I

2301
01:45:36,120 --> 01:45:37,000
Speaker 1: could have blocked.

2302
01:45:37,120 --> 01:45:38,120
Speaker 2: But no, no.

2303
01:45:38,520 --> 01:45:41,559
Speaker 1: What I'm trying to make is like this idea that like, oh, well,

2304
01:45:41,600 --> 01:45:43,280
Speaker 1: they're now in your orbit and they want to get

2305
01:45:43,320 --> 01:45:45,479
Speaker 1: to know you. It's like I don't want to get

2306
01:45:45,560 --> 01:45:48,080
Speaker 1: to know them, like you keep them over there like

2307
01:45:48,439 --> 01:45:50,639
Speaker 1: social ostracism is the least they deserve.

2308
01:45:51,880 --> 01:45:53,760
Speaker 2: This is fun for me to watch, Luke. These guys

2309
01:45:53,800 --> 01:45:55,720
Speaker 2: are just like, oh, I can't wait to see who

2310
01:45:55,800 --> 01:45:58,080
Speaker 2: is you be friends next, Luke and see you have

2311
01:45:58,200 --> 01:45:59,200
Speaker 2: to deal with it all right?

2312
01:45:59,600 --> 01:46:03,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's basically my life is not a thing I say.

2313
01:46:03,600 --> 01:46:04,840
Speaker 1: It matters to a single soul.

2314
01:46:05,640 --> 01:46:06,160
Speaker 2: It does, Luke.

2315
01:46:06,240 --> 01:46:06,760
Speaker 1: To me, it does.

2316
01:46:07,120 --> 01:46:09,320
Speaker 2: Let's go back to Craig Coach. Craig Jones, Luke, he

2317
01:46:09,439 --> 01:46:12,479
Speaker 2: was in Vegas for thirteen straight days. Let's hear how

2318
01:46:12,520 --> 01:46:15,120
Speaker 2: it went, rush off of man.

2319
01:46:15,400 --> 01:46:17,040
Speaker 3: I don't know how long, honestly, I think it was

2320
01:46:17,200 --> 01:46:22,639
Speaker 3: thirteen days in Vegas, thirteen days of nothing, but noseby

2321
01:46:22,840 --> 01:46:27,080
Speaker 3: is the butchery a little bit of training, but yeah,

2322
01:46:27,160 --> 01:46:30,160
Speaker 3: mostly mostly since the butcher that we can never speak

2323
01:46:30,200 --> 01:46:31,320
Speaker 3: about publicly.

2324
01:46:35,920 --> 01:46:37,360
Speaker 1: Now there's a man I could get to know.

2325
01:46:38,080 --> 01:46:40,920
Speaker 2: I mean, he's just like outwardly living on the edge.

2326
01:46:41,000 --> 01:46:41,200
Speaker 1: Luke.

2327
01:46:41,280 --> 01:46:44,400
Speaker 2: You know, he don't care. It's great, He's just wow. Okay,

2328
01:46:45,240 --> 01:46:47,560
Speaker 2: let's cool off a little. But it is a summertime

2329
01:46:47,600 --> 01:46:49,639
Speaker 2: out there, Luke. Let's cool off with some ice cream?

2330
01:46:49,720 --> 01:46:52,639
Speaker 2: So good you have to hear it to believe it. Actually,

2331
01:46:52,880 --> 01:46:53,759
Speaker 2: I want to chocolate?

2332
01:47:01,560 --> 01:47:02,400
Speaker 1: What what the fuck?

2333
01:47:03,160 --> 01:47:05,160
Speaker 2: Right in the ear hole, Luke, right in the old

2334
01:47:05,320 --> 01:47:05,800
Speaker 2: ear hole.

2335
01:47:06,800 --> 01:47:07,439
Speaker 1: Play that again.

2336
01:47:17,640 --> 01:47:18,160
Speaker 2: I don't know why.

2337
01:47:18,160 --> 01:47:20,439
Speaker 1: I don't understand. She's just like, yeah, I don't want chocolate,

2338
01:47:20,479 --> 01:47:24,000
Speaker 1: you know. Fuck my co worker. Also, I can hear myself, guys,

2339
01:47:24,160 --> 01:47:25,519
Speaker 1: thank you, Yeah.

2340
01:47:25,479 --> 01:47:27,920
Speaker 2: The echo echo, it's time for your hair cut of

2341
01:47:27,960 --> 01:47:33,840
Speaker 2: the week. Let's keep the ship moving, you know what.

2342
01:47:34,040 --> 01:47:35,559
Speaker 1: That's doing a lot of work that I don't think

2343
01:47:35,600 --> 01:47:36,360
Speaker 1: the hair needs to do.

2344
01:47:36,520 --> 01:47:39,960
Speaker 2: But I think it's versatile, you know what I mean.

2345
01:47:41,160 --> 01:47:43,400
Speaker 1: Versatile. Yes, it's a.

2346
01:47:43,439 --> 01:47:48,240
Speaker 2: Built in visor. It seems military friendly. I'm down for that.

2347
01:47:49,560 --> 01:47:51,240
Speaker 1: You know what, Maybe I was too harsh up front,

2348
01:47:51,400 --> 01:47:54,240
Speaker 1: Now that you have positioned it in that way. You

2349
01:47:54,360 --> 01:47:56,879
Speaker 1: might be right, Hey, we got that utility.

2350
01:47:57,000 --> 01:47:59,200
Speaker 2: You know, let's have a wholesome moment here. We don't

2351
01:47:59,240 --> 01:48:02,760
Speaker 2: need Zuck in his on a skid Luke. Let's see

2352
01:48:02,920 --> 01:48:07,680
Speaker 2: Alexandre Pantosia bringing the belt back to a T T

2353
01:48:08,000 --> 01:48:09,120
Speaker 2: Coconut Creek, Florida.

2354
01:48:14,920 --> 01:48:15,599
Speaker 1: That's pretty great.

2355
01:48:17,040 --> 01:48:19,280
Speaker 2: I don't know if the fans can hear the explosion

2356
01:48:19,479 --> 01:48:26,000
Speaker 2: of fat there's Brazilian track. Look, there's been Dan Lamberg. Yeah,

2357
01:48:26,920 --> 01:48:27,439
Speaker 2: I'm awesome.

2358
01:48:27,720 --> 01:48:33,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, so happy for you, the best, the best, I

2359
01:48:34,040 --> 01:48:34,400
Speaker 1: don't think.

2360
01:48:36,720 --> 01:48:50,640
Speaker 2: Hey, birth Row clod Bro birth round being all in

2361
01:48:50,680 --> 01:48:55,840
Speaker 2: the house as well. Johnny Epplin, big baby face turned

2362
01:48:55,880 --> 01:48:58,720
Speaker 2: for Pantosia, Luke one of the more likable fighters out

2363
01:48:58,720 --> 01:48:59,960
Speaker 2: of nowhere right in the store.

2364
01:49:00,479 --> 01:49:02,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, what a crazy story. And happy for him that

2365
01:49:02,840 --> 01:49:05,160
Speaker 1: he got this opportunity. Man, how many fighters go through

2366
01:49:05,200 --> 01:49:06,640
Speaker 1: their career and they never get to do this and

2367
01:49:06,640 --> 01:49:10,599
Speaker 1: they're and like, again, what's the difference between Pantoja and Moreno?

2368
01:49:10,760 --> 01:49:13,680
Speaker 1: Not much, right, not much, not a huge gap between them.

2369
01:49:13,800 --> 01:49:15,320
Speaker 1: I know Moreno got to go back to his gym

2370
01:49:15,320 --> 01:49:16,839
Speaker 1: and all that kind of stuff. I'm just saying, imagine

2371
01:49:17,280 --> 01:49:19,280
Speaker 1: a different scenario where guy comes up this short and

2372
01:49:19,400 --> 01:49:21,519
Speaker 1: doesn't have this moment like you get Rob. It's like

2373
01:49:21,600 --> 01:49:25,120
Speaker 1: it's these these situations are either feast or famine, almost

2374
01:49:25,200 --> 01:49:28,320
Speaker 1: quite literally, you know. And so I'm really happy for

2375
01:49:28,400 --> 01:49:31,800
Speaker 1: Alesandre Pantoja, a hard working guy, hard to say anything

2376
01:49:31,880 --> 01:49:33,720
Speaker 1: but great things about him. Good for him, and I'm

2377
01:49:33,760 --> 01:49:34,599
Speaker 1: really glad he got.

2378
01:49:34,479 --> 01:49:37,599
Speaker 2: That new Segmental are inside the ship this week, Luke,

2379
01:49:37,680 --> 01:49:39,800
Speaker 2: this is called white People of the Week. Let's go

2380
01:49:39,920 --> 01:49:41,560
Speaker 2: out to your July fourth fireworks.

2381
01:49:46,479 --> 01:49:53,240
Speaker 1: Well, I mean they did take Oh fuck o, fuck dude,

2382
01:49:53,320 --> 01:49:57,080
Speaker 1: what the fuck is that? Dude? That thing came in

2383
01:49:57,320 --> 01:49:59,320
Speaker 1: like a fucking laser.

2384
01:49:59,320 --> 01:50:01,960
Speaker 2: In the face, Luke, directly in the face right there.

2385
01:50:01,960 --> 01:50:04,200
Speaker 2: I don't know if he ever recovered or saw again.

2386
01:50:04,280 --> 01:50:06,160
Speaker 1: You know what, my man in the forty six Jersey,

2387
01:50:06,360 --> 01:50:08,080
Speaker 1: he knew what was up, he knew what time it was.

2388
01:50:08,640 --> 01:50:11,879
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, if you want white people being this dangerous,

2389
01:50:11,920 --> 01:50:13,880
Speaker 2: let's go over to the wasp nest that we all

2390
01:50:14,000 --> 01:50:14,519
Speaker 2: have in.

2391
01:50:14,560 --> 01:50:16,479
Speaker 1: The corner of our some dumb ass who did the

2392
01:50:17,040 --> 01:50:18,559
Speaker 1: glass of gasoline thing.

2393
01:50:19,360 --> 01:50:21,800
Speaker 2: You'll have to watch, Luke. Guy's white though, I'll tell

2394
01:50:21,800 --> 01:50:21,960
Speaker 2: you them.

2395
01:50:22,120 --> 01:50:26,320
Speaker 1: Yep, sure did. Oh you dumb fuck. Oh no he didn't,

2396
01:50:26,400 --> 01:50:31,240
Speaker 1: you dumb fuck, you stupid man, You stupid, stupid man.

2397
01:50:33,560 --> 01:50:36,000
Speaker 1: Look at the first of all, Look at the sausages

2398
01:50:36,040 --> 01:50:36,880
Speaker 1: on this man's hands.

2399
01:50:38,400 --> 01:50:40,160
Speaker 2: Can he give me a presh state check, Luke?

2400
01:50:40,200 --> 01:50:42,800
Speaker 1: You think o? Wow, dude, your buttthole would never be

2401
01:50:42,880 --> 01:50:45,240
Speaker 1: the same after that. My man is just sitting here

2402
01:50:45,320 --> 01:50:47,600
Speaker 1: holding wasps. Dude, look at this?

2403
01:50:47,880 --> 01:50:48,920
Speaker 2: Oh what the fuck?

2404
01:50:49,800 --> 01:50:57,439
Speaker 1: What the fuck? Dude? I don't want to hear one

2405
01:50:57,560 --> 01:51:02,759
Speaker 1: more complaint about insulting white people on the show. Ever again, ever, again,

2406
01:51:04,640 --> 01:51:12,080
Speaker 1: not much. Yes, save your fucking complaints for another show.

2407
01:51:12,240 --> 01:51:15,439
Speaker 1: Show me that again, show me this hockey one more time.

2408
01:51:15,520 --> 01:51:20,320
Speaker 1: Please come on to get rid of yellow jet. Dude, dude,

2409
01:51:20,360 --> 01:51:22,120
Speaker 1: look at the fingers on this man. You think he's

2410
01:51:22,160 --> 01:51:24,960
Speaker 1: turned a wrench before. I mean, he's got fingers that

2411
01:51:25,040 --> 01:51:25,840
Speaker 1: could crush you.

2412
01:51:27,800 --> 01:51:31,439
Speaker 2: Great grip strength this guy's got. But wow, I mean

2413
01:51:31,680 --> 01:51:34,000
Speaker 2: there's probably some protein in that though, right, Luke.

2414
01:51:36,120 --> 01:51:37,880
Speaker 1: So first time, like these hands are just gonna get

2415
01:51:37,960 --> 01:51:39,000
Speaker 1: you know, stunk to ship.

2416
01:51:39,360 --> 01:51:40,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, he can't feel it.

2417
01:51:41,000 --> 01:51:42,280
Speaker 1: And then he just looks at you with a dead

2418
01:51:42,320 --> 01:51:44,880
Speaker 1: eyed look and goes up, I'm gonna eat that. Look

2419
01:51:44,880 --> 01:51:47,639
Speaker 1: at me, Look at me? Son, I was there January sixth.

2420
01:51:48,760 --> 01:51:51,080
Speaker 2: Well, if you thought that white person was great, Luke,

2421
01:51:51,160 --> 01:51:52,600
Speaker 2: let's go to the gas station.

2422
01:52:00,160 --> 01:52:03,960
Speaker 1: He trapped? Was he trapped at Guantanamo Bay getting forced

2423
01:52:04,000 --> 01:52:06,720
Speaker 1: rectal feeding? Why was he unable to cut his I'll

2424
01:52:06,720 --> 01:52:08,600
Speaker 1: tell you what. Let me tell you something. Here's a

2425
01:52:08,640 --> 01:52:13,120
Speaker 1: little white people hack. There's nothing wrong with wearing sandals.

2426
01:52:13,320 --> 01:52:15,960
Speaker 1: But any white person who's got the strap over the

2427
01:52:16,080 --> 01:52:20,080
Speaker 1: toes and then the strap around the ankles, one hundred

2428
01:52:20,080 --> 01:52:23,799
Speaker 1: percent hasn't showered that day. One hundred percent hasn't showered

2429
01:52:23,840 --> 01:52:24,120
Speaker 1: that day.

2430
01:52:24,920 --> 01:52:28,479
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that was not taken from our documentary

2431
01:52:28,600 --> 01:52:31,439
Speaker 2: Numbers takes, Luke, when they showed a flash of my feet.

2432
01:52:31,560 --> 01:52:33,280
Speaker 1: Tell me I'm wrong. Tell me I'm wrong. If you

2433
01:52:33,360 --> 01:52:36,000
Speaker 1: wear like Tiva sandals and shit, it's a guarantee that

2434
01:52:36,000 --> 01:52:37,840
Speaker 1: when you get up in the morning, you brush your

2435
01:52:37,880 --> 01:52:39,920
Speaker 1: teeth too late, too late in the day. You know

2436
01:52:40,000 --> 01:52:40,439
Speaker 1: what I'm saying.

2437
01:52:40,800 --> 01:52:42,880
Speaker 2: Look, our final white person, the only worse than an

2438
01:52:42,920 --> 01:52:45,360
Speaker 2: influencer these days is will want to be influencer. Luke,

2439
01:52:45,439 --> 01:52:46,680
Speaker 2: let's check in on this white guy.

2440
01:52:48,720 --> 01:52:51,760
Speaker 1: Actually, this is kind of me circa twenty years ago. Yeah,

2441
01:52:52,320 --> 01:52:55,360
Speaker 1: every yep, yep, let he who was without sin cast

2442
01:52:55,439 --> 01:52:56,080
Speaker 1: the first stone.

2443
01:52:57,880 --> 01:53:00,320
Speaker 2: Well, Luke, you know this shit is normally inappropriate, but

2444
01:53:00,640 --> 01:53:04,519
Speaker 2: sometimes this inappropriateness comes from the UFC itself. Luke, here's

2445
01:53:04,600 --> 01:53:09,639
Speaker 2: Dricis du plus C getting up from the corner against

2446
01:53:09,720 --> 01:53:11,120
Speaker 2: Robert Whitaker after round one and.

2447
01:53:11,960 --> 01:53:13,920
Speaker 1: The old gulch hap there. That's how this is how

2448
01:53:14,000 --> 01:53:14,800
Speaker 1: BC greets me.

2449
01:53:15,560 --> 01:53:18,920
Speaker 2: Coach getting a little uh little little let me grab

2450
01:53:19,000 --> 01:53:20,759
Speaker 2: the horn on the way out. Was that the difference

2451
01:53:20,800 --> 01:53:21,639
Speaker 2: in the fight. You think.

2452
01:53:24,240 --> 01:53:26,320
Speaker 1: Can't say no? Okay, I can't say no.

2453
01:53:26,920 --> 01:53:29,600
Speaker 2: All right? Well, Luke, you know rip Kobe, but this

2454
01:53:29,760 --> 01:53:32,000
Speaker 2: brings new meaning to I just can't.

2455
01:53:31,760 --> 01:53:35,320
Speaker 1: Get over the dude eating the fucking wasps. I really

2456
01:53:35,439 --> 01:53:37,920
Speaker 1: am having a hard time processing.

2457
01:53:38,400 --> 01:53:41,120
Speaker 2: How about the dude eating ass in the octagon? Luke,

2458
01:53:41,200 --> 01:53:44,360
Speaker 2: this brings new meaning to Kobe. Tell me my hash

2459
01:53:44,439 --> 01:53:48,280
Speaker 2: tastes what it's? What sport do we cover? Luke?

2460
01:53:48,760 --> 01:53:52,280
Speaker 1: And also the dude whose ass is getting eaten? I

2461
01:53:52,360 --> 01:53:56,120
Speaker 1: think he won. I think the Uhlanbakov guy got screwed

2462
01:53:56,200 --> 01:53:56,599
Speaker 1: on this one.

2463
01:54:00,160 --> 01:54:02,960
Speaker 2: Gonna say, yeah, you already got screwed once. Our Ko

2464
01:54:03,040 --> 01:54:07,000
Speaker 2: of the Week comes from Russia in a UFC Tough

2465
01:54:07,200 --> 01:54:08,800
Speaker 2: spinoff type show. But watch this.

2466
01:54:13,200 --> 01:54:14,080
Speaker 1: What is this Russian?

2467
01:54:14,760 --> 01:54:16,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like the ultimate fighter I'm led.

2468
01:54:16,800 --> 01:54:21,920
Speaker 1: To believe, but not someone's about to get punched, right, Yeah, yeah,

2469
01:54:23,000 --> 01:54:28,559
Speaker 1: look at that dude. Russians in MMA don't do anything

2470
01:54:28,760 --> 01:54:32,120
Speaker 1: other than punch each other when they're not supposed to. Yeah. Like,

2471
01:54:32,480 --> 01:54:35,240
Speaker 1: I've just honestly, if you were in charge of like

2472
01:54:35,520 --> 01:54:39,240
Speaker 1: a Russian promotion and you were on the PR side,

2473
01:54:39,240 --> 01:54:40,880
Speaker 1: and your job was like, Okay, we have to stage,

2474
01:54:40,920 --> 01:54:42,640
Speaker 1: like we have to get the step in repeats for

2475
01:54:42,760 --> 01:54:44,360
Speaker 1: all the pictures, we have to have the media here,

2476
01:54:44,400 --> 01:54:46,280
Speaker 1: we have to have face offs, like you have to

2477
01:54:46,320 --> 01:54:48,440
Speaker 1: plan around Okay, this guy's gonna punch this guy in

2478
01:54:48,480 --> 01:54:51,240
Speaker 1: the face. This guy's gonna come out of nowhere and

2479
01:54:51,400 --> 01:54:53,840
Speaker 1: like run jump across. He's gonna punch that guy. You

2480
01:54:53,920 --> 01:54:56,200
Speaker 1: have to plan around it, right, That's just what they do.

2481
01:54:56,960 --> 01:54:59,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what they do. Luke. Uh You ever watch

2482
01:54:59,320 --> 01:55:00,760
Speaker 2: a UFC P review out a bar.

2483
01:55:02,520 --> 01:55:03,200
Speaker 1: Long time ago.

2484
01:55:03,640 --> 01:55:06,320
Speaker 2: People go from zero to cage fighter real quick, Luke,

2485
01:55:06,400 --> 01:55:06,880
Speaker 2: check out this.

2486
01:55:06,920 --> 01:55:15,320
Speaker 1: Skirmish, whereas this a BW three's who got the chair

2487
01:55:15,640 --> 01:55:22,760
Speaker 1: didn't pick up the chair to start swinging. I don't

2488
01:55:22,760 --> 01:55:25,080
Speaker 1: know what I don't understand what's happening. Oh there we go.

2489
01:55:25,720 --> 01:55:27,640
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, wow, chairs yeah.

2490
01:55:29,160 --> 01:55:31,640
Speaker 1: Boston. Yeah, I bet that guy has never said the

2491
01:55:31,840 --> 01:55:36,920
Speaker 1: N word with anything other than a hard R, which

2492
01:55:36,960 --> 01:55:39,400
Speaker 1: you can do in the UFC, which apparently you can do.

2493
01:55:39,600 --> 01:55:43,480
Speaker 2: Yes, Uh, Luke, Elder abuse is never complete without a

2494
01:55:43,520 --> 01:55:46,080
Speaker 2: little bit of kid carnage to balance it out. So

2495
01:55:46,280 --> 01:55:49,680
Speaker 2: let's first go the old route. Call this fast, furious

2496
01:55:49,760 --> 01:55:52,200
Speaker 2: and elder. This was be Vin Diesel by the time

2497
01:55:52,240 --> 01:55:54,040
Speaker 2: they get to chapter fifteen in the series.

2498
01:55:54,120 --> 01:55:59,920
Speaker 1: Wow, yeah, Hell, I'm falling. Yeah, I can't get out.

2499
01:56:00,840 --> 01:56:03,040
Speaker 2: So that's the old way of do it. Let's prepare

2500
01:56:03,120 --> 01:56:06,280
Speaker 2: the juniors for the future. Luke, here's a little backyard

2501
01:56:06,360 --> 01:56:07,360
Speaker 2: manslaughter for you.

2502
01:56:12,720 --> 01:56:13,959
Speaker 1: Dude, What the fuck.

2503
01:56:15,360 --> 01:56:18,960
Speaker 2: Sibling rivalry? Indeed, there's wow wow.

2504
01:56:19,560 --> 01:56:21,200
Speaker 1: She was like, you're gonna have You're gonna have tea

2505
01:56:21,240 --> 01:56:24,879
Speaker 1: time with daddy. No, bitch, No, you're gonna You're gonna dude.

2506
01:56:24,800 --> 01:56:28,480
Speaker 2: Dukes would not think twice about doing that to your second.

2507
01:56:28,280 --> 01:56:31,720
Speaker 1: Child, not even you know what, You're probably right, You're

2508
01:56:31,720 --> 01:56:32,280
Speaker 1: probably right.

2509
01:56:32,680 --> 01:56:36,960
Speaker 2: Hey, look you remember MK super fan Christian Deguero from California,

2510
01:56:37,120 --> 01:56:40,360
Speaker 2: big amateur MMA fighter. Where's MK on the crotch. He's

2511
01:56:40,440 --> 01:56:42,880
Speaker 2: coming back to the cage, by the way, August fifth

2512
01:56:42,920 --> 01:56:43,720
Speaker 2: and a title fight.

2513
01:56:44,080 --> 01:56:45,760
Speaker 1: My birthday, my birthday.

2514
01:56:45,920 --> 01:56:49,040
Speaker 2: Oh shit. Here's his call out of his next opponent

2515
01:56:49,440 --> 01:56:51,400
Speaker 2: after his last fight. Let's go back and listen.

2516
01:56:51,800 --> 01:56:52,800
Speaker 1: You weren't for your next.

2517
01:56:56,160 --> 01:57:08,760
Speaker 2: You win imaginations when you really wanted your That's Luke,

2518
01:57:08,800 --> 01:57:11,920
Speaker 2: he said, what you really want is an ass whappon? Okay,

2519
01:57:12,080 --> 01:57:15,240
Speaker 2: that's that's a dude. Christian deaghero is my hero. Okay,

2520
01:57:15,280 --> 01:57:16,560
Speaker 2: that's what I'm talking about right there.

2521
01:57:16,880 --> 01:57:20,640
Speaker 1: I can't believe we haven't sponsored him, But did you see.

2522
01:57:20,480 --> 01:57:22,480
Speaker 2: Our logo on his dong right there? I think that's

2523
01:57:22,520 --> 01:57:22,880
Speaker 2: the best.

2524
01:57:23,400 --> 01:57:25,600
Speaker 1: Damn all right, bless God, bless hey.

2525
01:57:25,640 --> 01:57:27,920
Speaker 2: It's well, it's time to play rate that tach, get

2526
01:57:28,000 --> 01:57:32,280
Speaker 2: fired up. Hey, what about this Mario inspired tattoos sleeve? Luke,

2527
01:57:32,360 --> 01:57:36,280
Speaker 2: give it to me for real here, So this is

2528
01:57:36,320 --> 01:57:45,560
Speaker 2: what you would call what do you think? Eight out

2529
01:57:45,560 --> 01:57:45,800
Speaker 2: of ten?

2530
01:57:47,360 --> 01:57:49,640
Speaker 1: It's hard to tell exactly because this is not an

2531
01:57:50,640 --> 01:57:58,000
Speaker 1: it's not a newer tattoo. I'd say in general, it's good. Uh,

2532
01:57:58,120 --> 01:58:01,240
Speaker 1: it's hard to tell whether it's great because some of

2533
01:58:01,320 --> 01:58:06,200
Speaker 1: the shading looks off okay, and some of the coloring

2534
01:58:06,280 --> 01:58:10,440
Speaker 1: doesn't look properly saturated. Some of it is fantastic, some

2535
01:58:10,520 --> 01:58:11,920
Speaker 1: of it does look very good. Some of it does

2536
01:58:11,960 --> 01:58:13,400
Speaker 1: look very good. So yeah, I would say I would

2537
01:58:13,400 --> 01:58:14,360
Speaker 1: say maybe seven and a half.

2538
01:58:14,960 --> 01:58:17,440
Speaker 2: Okay, well rate this next one. Joe Joe Rogan put

2539
01:58:17,480 --> 01:58:20,400
Speaker 2: this on his ig. It's from the artist Jim Leclerk.

2540
01:58:21,040 --> 01:58:23,440
Speaker 2: This thing is whoa, whoa, Luke.

2541
01:58:23,960 --> 01:58:26,440
Speaker 1: That's a ten. That's a ten. That's not a kind

2542
01:58:26,480 --> 01:58:29,520
Speaker 1: of tattoo I want. But in terms of tattoo quality,

2543
01:58:30,280 --> 01:58:32,640
Speaker 1: that is X. They just they're not going to come

2544
01:58:32,760 --> 01:58:36,160
Speaker 1: much better than this. This is extremely high level ten

2545
01:58:36,200 --> 01:58:36,600
Speaker 1: out of ten.

2546
01:58:37,080 --> 01:58:42,720
Speaker 2: UFC Superfan and Vegas Raiders Defensive End Max Crosby double X.

2547
01:58:42,840 --> 01:58:52,480
Speaker 2: Luke got a new tat your thoughts, there's a little

2548
01:58:52,560 --> 01:58:54,880
Speaker 2: there's a Kobe on the on the mid drift there,

2549
01:58:55,040 --> 01:58:55,600
Speaker 2: there's Yeah.

2550
01:58:55,600 --> 01:58:57,960
Speaker 1: I don't I don't like it at all from a

2551
01:58:58,080 --> 01:59:02,680
Speaker 1: theme standpoint. It's not poor done in that way, but

2552
01:59:02,800 --> 01:59:05,520
Speaker 1: it's kind of a mess. It's two on top of

2553
01:59:05,600 --> 01:59:09,680
Speaker 1: each other. Yeah, I don't love it. I don't know.

2554
01:59:09,800 --> 01:59:11,760
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna sit here and say it's like improperly

2555
01:59:11,960 --> 01:59:14,360
Speaker 1: done as a tattoo, that's not quite what I mean,

2556
01:59:14,440 --> 01:59:16,080
Speaker 1: but I don't really like it.

2557
01:59:16,880 --> 01:59:19,040
Speaker 2: Well, Luke, our MK fans told us they want more

2558
01:59:19,160 --> 01:59:21,919
Speaker 2: chuck mindenhall. So I went down to the local carnival

2559
01:59:21,960 --> 01:59:23,960
Speaker 2: and the bumper cars looked to pick up this video

2560
01:59:23,960 --> 01:59:24,800
Speaker 2: at Chuck. Wats this.

2561
01:59:27,120 --> 01:59:32,480
Speaker 1: Dude? Chuck getting busy out here? Just ah oh he

2562
01:59:32,600 --> 01:59:37,800
Speaker 1: got fucking lifted out of the bitch. What dude? This

2563
01:59:38,400 --> 01:59:40,520
Speaker 1: that thing blew him out of his shoes and socks.

2564
01:59:40,560 --> 01:59:40,920
Speaker 1: Look at that.

2565
01:59:42,680 --> 01:59:44,960
Speaker 2: Damn that's a head on collision right there.

2566
01:59:45,120 --> 01:59:49,560
Speaker 1: Aw, take that Chuck eaither dick old man.

2567
01:59:49,840 --> 01:59:51,640
Speaker 2: Yep, that's what I'm talking about. All right, it's time

2568
01:59:51,680 --> 01:59:55,200
Speaker 2: for this week in Connor McGregor. Luke McGregor improved to

2569
01:59:55,520 --> 01:59:59,080
Speaker 2: oh and seven as a coach on Tough, which led

2570
01:59:59,120 --> 02:00:03,320
Speaker 2: to this exchange between him and UFC Brass. Let's look back.

2571
02:00:05,840 --> 02:00:09,640
Speaker 2: What happens if it's a clean, sweet half you see,

2572
02:00:09,640 --> 02:00:11,400
Speaker 2: if anybody wants to go over to the other team.

2573
02:00:11,800 --> 02:00:13,840
Speaker 4: He came over to me and asked me, you know

2574
02:00:13,960 --> 02:00:17,120
Speaker 4: what happens if his team loses every quarter final fight?

2575
02:00:17,240 --> 02:00:20,640
Speaker 4: And I said, honestly, I don't know. It's crazy because

2576
02:00:20,920 --> 02:00:23,840
Speaker 4: it's never happened in thirty seasons of the ultimate fire.

2577
02:00:26,680 --> 02:00:28,840
Speaker 2: Well, look, as always, Connor making history.

2578
02:00:31,360 --> 02:00:33,160
Speaker 1: I mean, does he even care? I mean, I realize

2579
02:00:33,160 --> 02:00:35,280
Speaker 1: he cares a little bit, but does he even really care?

2580
02:00:35,680 --> 02:00:39,320
Speaker 1: If also, that hass bull of shirt that Dana is

2581
02:00:39,320 --> 02:00:41,680
Speaker 1: wearing is the first hass bull of siding I've seen

2582
02:00:41,760 --> 02:00:44,680
Speaker 1: in probably three months, not counting Ray Flores's timeline.

2583
02:00:45,920 --> 02:00:48,680
Speaker 2: Is just gonna say that, Luke, well done, well done?

2584
02:00:48,800 --> 02:00:49,160
Speaker 1: Right there?

2585
02:00:49,240 --> 02:00:51,800
Speaker 2: Well, look, you think Connor cares about going zero to

2586
02:00:51,920 --> 02:00:54,480
Speaker 2: seven and tough or fighting Chandler. Let's go to his

2587
02:00:54,560 --> 02:00:57,200
Speaker 2: instagram from over the weekend. It was time to head

2588
02:00:57,240 --> 02:01:00,200
Speaker 2: to the beach with the family, Luke and Connor was

2589
02:01:00,280 --> 02:01:03,360
Speaker 2: feeling mayweather we weighing vibes all over again.

2590
02:01:03,400 --> 02:01:05,880
Speaker 1: Here breakout banana hammock.

2591
02:01:05,960 --> 02:01:10,000
Speaker 2: Huh yeah. I mean the wife and kids were there, Luke,

2592
02:01:10,040 --> 02:01:12,360
Speaker 2: which was nice to see. But Connor's just out here

2593
02:01:14,280 --> 02:01:18,560
Speaker 2: modeling that hog for the Uh yeah, wow, I believe

2594
02:01:18,600 --> 02:01:20,840
Speaker 2: there's a picture we can cut too to end this show.

2595
02:01:20,840 --> 02:01:22,680
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what if I was as rich as Connor,

2596
02:01:22,720 --> 02:01:27,680
Speaker 1: I mean, what are we doing so I'm so uninterested

2597
02:01:27,720 --> 02:01:29,720
Speaker 1: in McGregor's hog. I mean, get this ship the fuck

2598
02:01:29,720 --> 02:01:34,960
Speaker 1: out of my face, But I will say that. I

2599
02:01:35,080 --> 02:01:36,680
Speaker 1: will say this. I mean, this is a great show.

2600
02:01:36,680 --> 02:01:39,080
Speaker 1: I had to watch Holly holmde events and now McGregor's hog.

2601
02:01:39,160 --> 02:01:44,160
Speaker 1: I mean, what are you doing here? Yeah, it was

2602
02:01:44,200 --> 02:01:46,080
Speaker 1: gonna say it was. If you're as rich as him,

2603
02:01:46,240 --> 02:01:48,560
Speaker 1: why are you going to a beach with no waves

2604
02:01:49,160 --> 02:01:52,080
Speaker 1: like Colombian beaches? Like, don't tell any Colombian people I

2605
02:01:52,120 --> 02:01:55,040
Speaker 1: ever said this, but their beaches fucking suck. They're not good. Right.

2606
02:01:55,600 --> 02:01:57,720
Speaker 1: You have to go to the private ones bare minimum.

2607
02:01:57,760 --> 02:01:59,360
Speaker 1: You can't even go to the public ones. And even

2608
02:01:59,360 --> 02:02:01,480
Speaker 1: then there's no fun waves hardly at any of these things.

2609
02:02:02,200 --> 02:02:04,280
Speaker 1: And and the beach is all rocky.

2610
02:02:05,160 --> 02:02:07,560
Speaker 2: Luke, you think he do you think he packed the

2611
02:02:07,640 --> 02:02:09,280
Speaker 2: nose beers for this trip? Luke?

2612
02:02:10,520 --> 02:02:12,560
Speaker 1: Does he really need to? I'm sure he's got hookups

2613
02:02:12,560 --> 02:02:14,280
Speaker 1: wherever he goes, you know, Okay, all right?

2614
02:02:14,320 --> 02:02:16,120
Speaker 2: I just didn't know if he did that with the

2615
02:02:16,200 --> 02:02:18,320
Speaker 2: family like that, Luke, I don't know. I'm not trying

2616
02:02:18,320 --> 02:02:20,960
Speaker 2: to get that deep into his personal life beyond his hog.

2617
02:02:21,160 --> 02:02:23,640
Speaker 1: Just just taking a look at his dick, Well, it

2618
02:02:23,760 --> 02:02:26,560
Speaker 1: brings who are you? Are you? Sada tester? I need

2619
02:02:26,640 --> 02:02:28,440
Speaker 1: to see your dick, sir, Luke.

2620
02:02:28,520 --> 02:02:33,320
Speaker 2: Hashtag sweatpants sausage alert. Okay you hear that, Luke. Let's

2621
02:02:33,400 --> 02:02:34,360
Speaker 2: go to this guy.

2622
02:02:34,880 --> 02:02:38,600
Speaker 1: Okay, my friend, who are you trying to fool? Please

2623
02:02:38,720 --> 02:02:39,280
Speaker 1: be serious?

2624
02:02:41,200 --> 02:02:46,320
Speaker 2: Is that a money lion Hammer of the Month trophy

2625
02:02:46,440 --> 02:02:48,800
Speaker 2: in your pants? Or you're just happy to see us? Sir?

2626
02:02:48,920 --> 02:02:49,520
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

2627
02:02:50,000 --> 02:02:52,880
Speaker 1: Don't have one more time. This guy either has the saggiest,

2628
02:02:52,960 --> 02:02:56,440
Speaker 1: biggest balls. Yeah it's not real, sir, and we know

2629
02:02:56,600 --> 02:02:59,040
Speaker 1: it's not like please like this dude. This dude literally

2630
02:02:59,080 --> 02:03:00,880
Speaker 1: went out and then just stuff to Dick in his

2631
02:03:00,960 --> 02:03:01,600
Speaker 1: pants and was like.

2632
02:03:03,240 --> 02:03:06,440
Speaker 2: Well hashtag sweatpants sausage. Took us out to the bar, Luke.

2633
02:03:06,440 --> 02:03:09,960
Speaker 2: You know they still have people that smoke outside. Some

2634
02:03:10,160 --> 02:03:11,600
Speaker 2: of them are welling out, Luke.

2635
02:03:14,880 --> 02:03:17,240
Speaker 1: Dude, my man is just out here with an erection

2636
02:03:20,080 --> 02:03:21,720
Speaker 1: and like, look at the weather. It's like he's got

2637
02:03:21,760 --> 02:03:24,600
Speaker 1: a sweater on, like it's kind of chilly outside. He's

2638
02:03:24,640 --> 02:03:28,120
Speaker 1: just like, nope, dick hard cigarette lit. This is living, bro.

2639
02:03:28,800 --> 02:03:30,840
Speaker 2: They may have had me with him McGregor on the

2640
02:03:31,080 --> 02:03:33,760
Speaker 2: big screen. Way INDs, dude, you never you never know.

2641
02:03:33,960 --> 02:03:36,720
Speaker 2: But finally, Luke, we got one more for you.

2642
02:03:36,880 --> 02:03:38,040
Speaker 1: I just want to point out. I just want to

2643
02:03:38,040 --> 02:03:39,480
Speaker 1: point out something. I just want to point out something.

2644
02:03:41,640 --> 02:03:44,120
Speaker 1: I text you on occasion. I didn't yesterday, but I

2645
02:03:44,480 --> 02:03:47,520
Speaker 1: sometimes on Sundays I'll text you for like conversational purposes,

2646
02:03:47,920 --> 02:03:50,000
Speaker 1: and I usually don't get a response until like way

2647
02:03:50,080 --> 02:03:52,600
Speaker 1: later or something. You're usually too busy. I just want

2648
02:03:52,640 --> 02:03:56,440
Speaker 1: to point out you spent your day yesterday looking at

2649
02:03:56,600 --> 02:04:00,880
Speaker 1: absurd amounts of dicks, just like rifling through pictures and

2650
02:04:01,000 --> 02:04:03,080
Speaker 1: videos of other men's cocks for.

2651
02:04:03,160 --> 02:04:04,240
Speaker 2: The job for the segment.

2652
02:04:04,360 --> 02:04:07,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, not texting with me, but being like, I

2653
02:04:08,120 --> 02:04:09,440
Speaker 1: just I can't. I don't have time for Look, I

2654
02:04:09,440 --> 02:04:10,840
Speaker 1: gotta I really got to look at this.

2655
02:04:10,880 --> 02:04:14,440
Speaker 2: Band's Unfortunately, look it's what the people want, you know

2656
02:04:14,480 --> 02:04:16,440
Speaker 2: what I mean. So let's close with this. Luke, Well,

2657
02:04:16,440 --> 02:04:19,240
Speaker 2: you know my favorite line in Forrest Gump was she

2658
02:04:19,400 --> 02:04:34,720
Speaker 2: tastes like cigarettes. Okay, I hate that tastes It's disgusting,

2659
02:04:34,880 --> 02:04:36,160
Speaker 2: Like seriously, right, it's the.

2660
02:04:36,200 --> 02:04:39,480
Speaker 1: One weird He's he's the one doing that, right.

2661
02:04:39,880 --> 02:04:42,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's because you know, she had pall malls

2662
02:04:42,920 --> 02:04:43,440
Speaker 2: on her breath.

2663
02:04:43,680 --> 02:04:45,760
Speaker 1: That's all that actually happened to me. That this happened

2664
02:04:45,800 --> 02:04:47,640
Speaker 1: to me in college, but the roles were reversed.

2665
02:04:48,320 --> 02:04:51,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I've seen that before naked too, Luke. I've

2666
02:04:51,640 --> 02:04:54,040
Speaker 2: been a part of those transactions too. It's always messy.

2667
02:04:54,160 --> 02:04:57,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, those are never fun because once the cleanup

2668
02:04:57,320 --> 02:04:59,720
Speaker 1: is done, you're like, yeah, I think I'm gonna go. Yeah,

2669
02:05:00,080 --> 02:05:01,040
Speaker 1: that's probably a good idea.

2670
02:05:01,240 --> 02:05:02,040
Speaker 2: All right, I think I'll just go.

2671
02:05:02,200 --> 02:05:02,320
Speaker 1: Now.

2672
02:05:02,440 --> 02:05:04,320
Speaker 2: We'll never speak again to each other. So thank you

2673
02:05:04,440 --> 02:05:06,760
Speaker 2: for your service. Yet that's all I got, Luke. I

2674
02:05:06,760 --> 02:05:08,480
Speaker 2: don't know if we're still employed, but this has been

2675
02:05:08,520 --> 02:05:09,640
Speaker 2: the best two hours of the week.

2676
02:05:09,880 --> 02:05:11,680
Speaker 1: I gotta say the ship was good this week. It

2677
02:05:11,800 --> 02:05:14,520
Speaker 1: was really good. I really appreciate that. We'll remind her

2678
02:05:14,560 --> 02:05:16,440
Speaker 1: to everyone. Hey, put up the social graphic on the

2679
02:05:16,480 --> 02:05:18,040
Speaker 1: screen there, if you would be so kind. There, gentlemen,

2680
02:05:18,080 --> 02:05:20,400
Speaker 1: there you go. You can see it right there, and

2681
02:05:20,680 --> 02:05:22,360
Speaker 1: you can follow us by the way TikTok I keep

2682
02:05:22,400 --> 02:05:25,640
Speaker 1: saying this picking up picking up steam on the old TikToker.

2683
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Speaker 1: So come check us out there, if you'd be so kind.

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02:05:27,760 --> 02:05:29,960
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2685
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2686
02:05:33,040 --> 02:05:35,680
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Speaker 2: The products I use, Luke, so I am very happy

2696
02:05:58,440 --> 02:05:59,920
Speaker 2: to endorse them without the yes.

2697
02:06:00,080 --> 02:06:02,640
Speaker 1: I know in both cases I use both of them,

2698
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Speaker 1: one of them daily, So yeah, they're pretty great.

2699
02:06:05,600 --> 02:06:07,480
Speaker 2: I just want to say, look, yeah, this week's a

2700
02:06:07,560 --> 02:06:11,480
Speaker 2: little light in the breeches in terms of big combat events,

2701
02:06:11,520 --> 02:06:14,040
Speaker 2: but let me remind you what's coming around the corner.

2702
02:06:14,480 --> 02:06:18,920
Speaker 2: Two saturdays from now is Spence Crawford UFC two ninety

2703
02:06:18,960 --> 02:06:23,000
Speaker 2: one and the BMF rematch or BMF two point zero

2704
02:06:23,040 --> 02:06:26,040
Speaker 2: and maybe Luke maybe even a light heavyweight title on

2705
02:06:26,120 --> 02:06:28,280
Speaker 2: the line when Yan and Poeton meet. More on that

2706
02:06:28,440 --> 02:06:34,480
Speaker 2: this week, also Belator Rising Supercard, and four days before

2707
02:06:34,520 --> 02:06:39,600
Speaker 2: that Tuesday Morning, how about Stephen Fulton Junior taking on

2708
02:06:39,840 --> 02:06:42,800
Speaker 2: Naiawa in a way for two of four world titles

2709
02:06:42,840 --> 02:06:45,120
Speaker 2: at one hundred and twenty two pounds and maybe the

2710
02:06:45,240 --> 02:06:47,240
Speaker 2: number one pound four pound spot in the sport at

2711
02:06:47,320 --> 02:06:50,640
Speaker 2: stake until Spencer Crawford fight. Dude, seriously, like the next

2712
02:06:50,840 --> 02:06:53,320
Speaker 2: couple of weeks leading into you know what should be

2713
02:06:53,360 --> 02:06:55,760
Speaker 2: a fun August, it's gonna get hot and heavy again.

2714
02:06:55,840 --> 02:06:58,040
Speaker 2: I mean, Luke, that's my birthday, by the way, Tuesday

2715
02:06:58,040 --> 02:07:01,560
Speaker 2: next Tuesday forty five. What a birthday gift for me

2716
02:07:01,680 --> 02:07:05,400
Speaker 2: to unwrap a new way versus Fulton that morning live

2717
02:07:05,560 --> 02:07:08,600
Speaker 2: MK reaction on my birthday right after, because that's what

2718
02:07:08,920 --> 02:07:11,080
Speaker 2: that's my life. This is my passion, Luke, this is

2719
02:07:11,440 --> 02:07:13,040
Speaker 2: you know, this is the this is the things I

2720
02:07:13,160 --> 02:07:13,560
Speaker 2: care about.

2721
02:07:13,640 --> 02:07:16,800
Speaker 1: Thank you. Yeah, August fifth, I'm not gonna work that day,

2722
02:07:17,080 --> 02:07:18,200
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna take that off.

2723
02:07:18,640 --> 02:07:21,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll talk about July twenty fifth, Luke, Okay, I'll

2724
02:07:21,320 --> 02:07:21,760
Speaker 2: show you out.

2725
02:07:21,840 --> 02:07:25,160
Speaker 1: But remember San Haagen, I think fights uh never got

2726
02:07:25,200 --> 02:07:26,200
Speaker 1: made off on August fifth?

2727
02:07:26,720 --> 02:07:28,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well would it be MK unless you took the

2728
02:07:28,760 --> 02:07:29,680
Speaker 2: whole summer off, Luke?

2729
02:07:29,760 --> 02:07:32,000
Speaker 1: Right? I mean I take less days than you. I

2730
02:07:32,080 --> 02:07:34,160
Speaker 1: take less days than Mikey and you. I just want

2731
02:07:34,160 --> 02:07:36,200
Speaker 1: to point that out so you can suck a dick.

2732
02:07:36,240 --> 02:07:38,760
Speaker 1: How about that there's plenty of you to choose from.

2733
02:07:39,160 --> 02:07:41,760
Speaker 2: We could show receipts. Yeah, Mikey chimes in, he says.

2734
02:07:41,560 --> 02:07:44,560
Speaker 1: Live, Mocky's like lies, Mikey's Mikey's on. I mean, God,

2735
02:07:44,600 --> 02:07:46,280
Speaker 1: bless Mikey. He works to the he works his fingers

2736
02:07:46,320 --> 02:07:48,120
Speaker 1: to the bone. But Mikey, it's like every Friday's like, yeah,

2737
02:07:48,160 --> 02:07:50,640
Speaker 1: I'm in Orlando this Friday. Then the next Friday, Yeah

2738
02:07:50,640 --> 02:07:53,760
Speaker 1: I'm in Connecticut this Friday. Like he doesn't take as long,

2739
02:07:53,920 --> 02:07:56,120
Speaker 1: like in terms of like one to five days, but

2740
02:07:56,280 --> 02:07:59,040
Speaker 1: like every every other Friday, my man is just jet

2741
02:07:59,120 --> 02:07:59,920
Speaker 1: setting like a play.

2742
02:08:01,360 --> 02:08:03,000
Speaker 2: Don't hate the player, lou hate the game.

2743
02:08:03,280 --> 02:08:06,160
Speaker 1: Okay, that's true, that's fair, that's fair. We like Mikey. Okay.

2744
02:08:06,320 --> 02:08:08,840
Speaker 1: Thanks to Mikey in particular from CBS Sports. Thanks of

2745
02:08:08,880 --> 02:08:11,440
Speaker 1: course to Malka and Showtime and all of you for

2746
02:08:11,600 --> 02:08:13,800
Speaker 1: joining us on this Monday where we talk about fights

2747
02:08:14,160 --> 02:08:16,720
Speaker 1: and look at male genitalia. That's really what MK is

2748
02:08:16,760 --> 02:08:21,040
Speaker 1: at its core. Principally about that is Brian Campbell with Thomas.

2749
02:08:21,320 --> 02:08:23,440
Speaker 1: I think we're done here, maybe permanently, I don't know,

2750
02:08:23,720 --> 02:08:26,080
Speaker 1: if not. We'll see you Wednesday, and until then, May

2751
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Speaker 1: all of your gains. Be loyal