WEBVTT - Waiting on Reparations: Knowledge is Power 0:00:03.320 --> 0:00:06.560 Have you ever thought about how incredibly complex I spit is. 0:00:07.280 --> 0:00:11.280 It may only be water, but just aliva isn't simple. 0:00:11.800 --> 0:00:16.239 That remaining one percent holds incredibly meaningful information that could 0:00:16.480 --> 0:00:19.400 change everything. And I'm not just talking about your family 0:00:19.440 --> 0:00:23.640 treat Hi, I'm barret to day Thurston and on this 0:00:23.680 --> 0:00:26.320 season of Spit and I Heart Radio podcast with twenty 0:00:26.320 --> 0:00:30.400 three and me, we explore how DNA isn't just about ancestry, 0:00:30.720 --> 0:00:37.839 it can also be key to understanding your health. Hello 0:00:38.040 --> 0:00:42.159 you and welcome back. I've said this before, but what 0:00:42.240 --> 0:00:44.239 I love about this season of Spit is that we 0:00:44.280 --> 0:00:47.120 get to hear from all kinds of different people with 0:00:47.200 --> 0:00:52.199 different perspectives, and this episode is another great example of that. Now, 0:00:52.200 --> 0:00:55.920 today's episode features an important discussion from Waiting on Reparations, 0:00:56.200 --> 0:00:59.920 a podcast about hip hop and politics. Every week, host 0:01:00.200 --> 0:01:03.680 Dope Knife and Lingua Franca explore the history of public 0:01:03.720 --> 0:01:06.200 policy and its impacts on the hip hop community and 0:01:06.200 --> 0:01:10.080 its culture. In this episode, Dope Knife and Lingwood discussed 0:01:10.120 --> 0:01:13.480 the reality of health risks and the unfortunate disparities that 0:01:13.480 --> 0:01:17.360 are often found in marginalized communities. The two discuss their 0:01:17.400 --> 0:01:21.200 own health plus the experiences of family and friends who 0:01:21.240 --> 0:01:23.360 could have benefited from knowing more about their own health 0:01:23.400 --> 0:01:26.560 backgrounds the types of information found in the results of 0:01:26.560 --> 0:01:29.720 a twenty three and me test. The two explore how 0:01:29.760 --> 0:01:33.039 there's much more to learn from DNA than just your ancestry, 0:01:33.280 --> 0:01:36.800 and how important that knowledge can be. Let's listen in 0:01:36.840 --> 0:01:40.280 as these two share their unique perspective, including their thoughts 0:01:40.360 --> 0:01:43.880 on how the vital information provided in DNA testing can 0:01:43.959 --> 0:01:52.200 aid us in dealing with an unequal health care system. 0:01:52.360 --> 0:01:57.720 You are listening waiting on reparations production of I R Radio. 0:01:58.920 --> 0:02:04.040 What's up all this? Dope nighte franca. We are waiting 0:02:04.120 --> 0:02:09.640 on reparations. Hurry up, yo. We are the show rich 0:02:09.720 --> 0:02:12.560 in the gap between him pomp and politics. You know 0:02:13.840 --> 0:02:19.040 it's been a long time left you left you without it, dope? 0:02:20.520 --> 0:02:24.240 How know you? I've been good. I've been good. I mean, 0:02:24.280 --> 0:02:26.239 we haven't seen each other since that show that we did. 0:02:26.720 --> 0:02:30.079 We did have an excellent show down in Savannah to 0:02:30.120 --> 0:02:32.880 go that. I was seeing the highlights of your tour. 0:02:33.120 --> 0:02:35.280 I've been well since then and been while I'm wrestled 0:02:35.320 --> 0:02:37.120 because I've just gotten off the tour when you were 0:02:37.120 --> 0:02:41.079 getting ready either treasure. Yeah, so I'm wrestling. I'm actually 0:02:41.200 --> 0:02:42.480 you know, you know how it goes when you're on 0:02:42.600 --> 0:02:44.240 the road and then you're like, man, I can't wait 0:02:44.280 --> 0:02:46.040 to get home, And then you're back home you're like, man, 0:02:46.040 --> 0:02:47.280 I'm tired of looking at all this. I want to 0:02:47.280 --> 0:02:53.280 go back out there. And yeah, yeah, yeah, what about 0:02:53.320 --> 0:02:58.520 you PhD Yes, I defended my dissertation a week ago. 0:02:58.639 --> 0:03:01.120 It feels like it was months ago because probably I 0:03:01.240 --> 0:03:04.560 just blacked out the entire experience because it's terrifying. But yeah, 0:03:04.720 --> 0:03:09.280 so I am a doctor now, so that's crazy. But yeah, 0:03:09.320 --> 0:03:14.680 and then been tor in Birmingham, BC, Asheville, Savana obviously, um, 0:03:14.919 --> 0:03:18.440 and I just had a West coast tour announced like yesterday, 0:03:20.919 --> 0:03:26.520 I'm going out with a band called Holy f Word 0:03:29.160 --> 0:03:31.680 doesn't really dope, but yeah, we're going from like Vancouver 0:03:31.800 --> 0:03:37.640 down to San Diego. How many dates? Ten? You said 0:03:37.680 --> 0:03:42.960 next week? Yeah, oh say you just get at it that. Yeah. 0:03:43.320 --> 0:03:49.000 So yeah, that's what's up. Well, it is election day 0:03:49.280 --> 0:03:53.240 today in Georgia all across the state, and we are 0:03:53.320 --> 0:03:57.560 having some decent voter turnout from what I hear, we are, Yeah, 0:03:57.720 --> 0:03:59.400 and so there's been a lot of conversations and go oh, 0:03:59.560 --> 0:04:03.480 voters Untian wasn't that bad. But it's like one, people 0:04:03.560 --> 0:04:07.200 are livid that their votes are trying to be taken 0:04:07.240 --> 0:04:10.600 away from them, and so they're coming out in greater numbers. UM. 0:04:11.200 --> 0:04:15.960 One survey showed that Georgians believed their vote matters, like 0:04:16.400 --> 0:04:19.080 to a degree that is higher than anywhere else in 0:04:19.120 --> 0:04:22.240 the country. Like Georgians really believed. Yeah, like folks in 0:04:22.279 --> 0:04:28.800 the state really believe their vote matters. Like I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:04:28.800 --> 0:04:31.279 And so we got people who are like really motivated 0:04:31.279 --> 0:04:33.320 to vote because they really feel like it counts and 0:04:33.400 --> 0:04:35.520 it matters more so than anywhere else in the country. 0:04:36.200 --> 0:04:38.680 And then we've had tons of organizers, people like the 0:04:38.720 --> 0:04:42.320 New Georgia Project and Fair Fight and Black Voters Matter, etcetera, 0:04:42.440 --> 0:04:44.560 registering tons of vote and I mean like we got 0:04:44.680 --> 0:04:47.880 obviously everyone were Stacy A. Baron's running for governor. We 0:04:47.960 --> 0:04:52.280 have an opportunity to expand medicaid under her governorship. Um, 0:04:52.400 --> 0:04:55.839 there's like tons of tons and tons of uninsured Georgians. 0:04:55.920 --> 0:04:58.840 We have like one of the lowest insured rates in 0:04:58.920 --> 0:05:01.920 the country and then of the highest maternal mortality rates too, 0:05:02.000 --> 0:05:05.719 and so like, um, that alone, I mean that alone 0:05:05.880 --> 0:05:10.120 could be world altering for so many people. But yeah, 0:05:10.279 --> 0:05:12.760 a lot of folks getting out the vote today, feeling excited, 0:05:12.839 --> 0:05:16.360 feeling empowered, cool so on the topic of Medicaid and 0:05:16.440 --> 0:05:20.480 health insurance and our health generally. In this episode, we've 0:05:20.520 --> 0:05:22.719 teamed up with twenty three and me for a conversation, 0:05:23.279 --> 0:05:26.880 for a conversation about DNA testing. Now you're twenty three, 0:05:27.320 --> 0:05:30.200 here's a DNA testing you think it. But guys, we 0:05:30.279 --> 0:05:33.279 already heard you do that episode about ancestry and things 0:05:33.360 --> 0:05:35.840 like that. That's not really what we're talking about today. See, 0:05:36.200 --> 0:05:41.360 it's it's not necessarily limited to your ancestry. Like, DNA 0:05:41.480 --> 0:05:45.640 testing can be used to gain insight on one's own health, 0:05:46.160 --> 0:05:48.680 certain things that you may be at risk for, and 0:05:48.760 --> 0:05:51.240 it can equip you with the information that you need, 0:05:51.960 --> 0:05:53.800 and it can equip you with the information that you 0:05:53.960 --> 0:05:58.160 need to make the necessary changes and live your best life. 0:05:58.240 --> 0:06:00.440 You know. So we're can alert you to your risk 0:06:00.480 --> 0:06:04.320 of type two diabetes, maculate generation, trying to keep your 0:06:04.320 --> 0:06:08.360 eye health good, sailiac disease UM, if you might be 0:06:08.480 --> 0:06:12.440 a high risk for chronic kidney disease um later onset 0:06:12.520 --> 0:06:18.280 Alzheimer's um, which definitely something I'm thinking about having you know, 0:06:18.520 --> 0:06:21.680 multiple incidences of it in my family, but then you 0:06:22.160 --> 0:06:24.360 can see if you're at higher risk of Morkinson's a 0:06:24.480 --> 0:06:29.320 trial defig relation, which is kind of like irregular heartbeat. Um, 0:06:29.680 --> 0:06:32.080 there's all kinds of of exema. Like, there's all sorts 0:06:32.120 --> 0:06:34.920 of things that you can discover. To kick it off, 0:06:34.960 --> 0:06:37.800 we're gonna start by recapping the story and legendary hip 0:06:37.839 --> 0:06:41.160 hop producer Ja Dilla for visiting some of J Dilla's 0:06:41.200 --> 0:06:44.680 story UM with his own health UM as well as 0:06:44.920 --> 0:06:49.719 preventative healthcare broadly and the power of knowing about the DNA. Yeah. 0:06:49.839 --> 0:06:53.320 Now we've definitely mentioned j BLA on the show before. 0:06:54.240 --> 0:06:56.560 Just to recap you. So, J Dilla was diagnosed with 0:06:56.640 --> 0:07:00.960 an incurable blood disease around two thousand two, two thousand five. 0:07:01.120 --> 0:07:04.640 He underwent intensive treatment. I do believe he was misdiagnosed 0:07:04.680 --> 0:07:06.840 a couple of times, and twenty nine out of thirty 0:07:06.920 --> 0:07:11.600 one tracks from Dyla's uh last album Donuts were actually 0:07:11.640 --> 0:07:14.800 recorded in his hospital bed. He using the Boss SP 0:07:15.080 --> 0:07:17.760 three or three sampler and a small forty five record 0:07:17.800 --> 0:07:20.880 player as those friends bottom And it was released on 0:07:20.960 --> 0:07:23.840 his thirty second birthday. And I mean you catch up. 0:07:23.960 --> 0:07:27.720 You can't overstate the importance of that j Kila album Donut. 0:07:28.440 --> 0:07:31.480 He can't remember the first time you heard that? I yeah, 0:07:31.520 --> 0:07:33.240 I was mind blowing. It was around the same time 0:07:33.320 --> 0:07:36.000 I was like a pretty young person because at the 0:07:36.040 --> 0:07:39.360 same time I discovered like m F Doom Cats like 0:07:39.440 --> 0:07:41.520 that that really expanded my idea of what hip hop 0:07:41.640 --> 0:07:46.080 can be. And you know, sonically um and also resonated 0:07:46.160 --> 0:07:48.080 with a lot of how I initially got into hip hop, 0:07:48.200 --> 0:07:51.320 like through like adult Swinton cartoons a night. They play 0:07:51.440 --> 0:07:55.240 like a lot of lo fi sort of um, like 0:07:55.760 --> 0:07:59.400 a lot of samples drawings from an earlier era, very 0:07:59.480 --> 0:08:03.800 nostal mix, founding and revolutionary with her And so yeah, 0:08:03.880 --> 0:08:06.360 when I heard Dona's Time, I was like, oh my god, 0:08:06.640 --> 0:08:11.680 Like hip hop is can be so much. I mean 0:08:11.760 --> 0:08:16.400 he influenced. He influenced countless people like he pretty much 0:08:17.080 --> 0:08:21.320 like influenced hip hop producers, jazz musicians is partially responsible 0:08:21.400 --> 0:08:25.280 for like neo soul is a genre. And as far 0:08:25.360 --> 0:08:27.080 as the people that he's worked with me, you're talking 0:08:27.560 --> 0:08:33.160 tribe called quest q Tive comment Erica bad Quest Love 0:08:33.240 --> 0:08:35.839 from the Ruth like everybody. So J Dill is like 0:08:35.920 --> 0:08:41.520 a prolific, prolific producer, but we lost some early on 0:08:41.640 --> 0:08:44.760 thirty two years old. So Dillah was uninsured at the 0:08:44.840 --> 0:08:47.360 time and he didn't seek care until he was sick. 0:08:48.120 --> 0:08:52.679 And there's disproportionate rates of heart disease, cancer diabetes in 0:08:52.720 --> 0:08:55.520 the black community that could be mitigated to folks knew 0:08:55.559 --> 0:08:58.640 that they are risks and they felt, you know, in 0:08:58.800 --> 0:09:01.800 charge of their own health. Yeah, I mean, I mean 0:09:01.960 --> 0:09:04.480 so many people, even if you have insurance, you know, 0:09:04.640 --> 0:09:07.719 just don't go to a doctor until they're thick. And 0:09:08.280 --> 0:09:10.600 especially in the hip hop community in the black community, 0:09:10.640 --> 0:09:13.640 it's it's definitely like an issue. I mean, there's like 0:09:13.800 --> 0:09:16.400 a laundry list of preventative cares that you can take 0:09:16.559 --> 0:09:19.240 right Like you can eat, you can change your diet, 0:09:19.280 --> 0:09:22.120 and you can change your lifestyle and all that stuff. 0:09:22.160 --> 0:09:25.439 But at the end of the day, the more information 0:09:25.520 --> 0:09:28.520 that you have about you get your health, the more 0:09:28.880 --> 0:09:31.960 a quiff you are when you do when misfortune does 0:09:32.080 --> 0:09:33.960 arrive and you do have to go into the healthcare 0:09:34.040 --> 0:09:37.600 system or you know, even unfortunate time to think about 0:09:37.760 --> 0:09:42.480 like I had multiple hospitalizations last year while I was pregnant, 0:09:43.040 --> 0:09:45.199 and um, you know, that's a very exciting thing, a 0:09:45.240 --> 0:09:47.760 little scary, but you know it's going through something that 0:09:48.400 --> 0:09:52.040 you're really stoked about. But even you know, when you're 0:09:52.080 --> 0:09:54.280 in the hospital my experience, I feel like it's also 0:09:54.360 --> 0:09:56.559 the same for a lot of people. Um. It feels 0:09:56.559 --> 0:09:58.760 like choices are just made for you. Like you go 0:09:58.960 --> 0:10:00.959 in and they're like, we gotta these tests and we're 0:10:00.960 --> 0:10:03.640 gonna do this treatment and this and that. This is 0:10:03.720 --> 0:10:06.640 the plan. Um. And so I think it's important for 0:10:06.720 --> 0:10:09.040 people to feel empowered to say like, hey, I wanted 0:10:09.080 --> 0:10:11.760 information about this. I know I'm a rich for X, 0:10:11.920 --> 0:10:13.520 Y and Z. Let's talk about that. So they can 0:10:13.600 --> 0:10:17.319 really take control of those conversations where you know, the 0:10:17.880 --> 0:10:21.120 power dynamics feel very imbalanced. Were like they're talking to 0:10:21.240 --> 0:10:23.600 these medical experts who are like, you know, they got 0:10:23.640 --> 0:10:26.520 the game plan versus you that it's just like you're 0:10:26.559 --> 0:10:28.199 just there because you care about your health and you 0:10:28.240 --> 0:10:31.119 want to be well. Um, But coming into that conversation 0:10:31.280 --> 0:10:33.280 like yo, I know what I'm gonna ask about, I 0:10:33.360 --> 0:10:35.880 know what my concerns are. I'm gonna speak up for myself. 0:10:36.400 --> 0:10:38.800 It is an important part of really taking advantage of 0:10:38.880 --> 0:10:41.480 like preventative health care and getting the health outcomes like 0:10:42.480 --> 0:10:46.920 you want you want to see so having Yeah, definitely, Yeah, sorry, 0:10:47.480 --> 0:10:49.440 now I was just gonna add like I I also 0:10:49.520 --> 0:10:52.240 have like a personal experience with that. My father is 0:10:52.320 --> 0:10:56.839 similar to Jo's situation where he got diagnosed with a 0:10:57.559 --> 0:11:00.920 kidney condition and we found it out too late and 0:11:01.440 --> 0:11:03.560 he didn't really act on it until he was sick. 0:11:03.960 --> 0:11:06.640 And I remember the ins and outs of the hospital 0:11:06.720 --> 0:11:09.000 and the testing and trying to figure out what was 0:11:09.120 --> 0:11:11.120 wrong with them. You know, by the time we even 0:11:11.520 --> 0:11:14.920 you know, they can kinpoint what the actual issue was, 0:11:15.600 --> 0:11:18.480 it was almost too late. Yeah, But I mean, thankfully 0:11:18.600 --> 0:11:22.520 there are opportunities to for certain conditions, have insight into 0:11:22.600 --> 0:11:26.720 how your DNA can affect your likelihood for developing those conditions, 0:11:26.800 --> 0:11:28.439 and then you can you know, be more empowered to 0:11:28.480 --> 0:11:32.160 make healthier choices that can improve the you can improve 0:11:32.200 --> 0:11:35.080 your quality of life. Um, I think learning those lessons 0:11:35.200 --> 0:11:38.319 from our experiences and your experience with your dad and 0:11:38.320 --> 0:11:40.600 my experience in the hospital a bunch of times last 0:11:40.679 --> 0:11:44.640 year definitely a test um how important is to take 0:11:44.720 --> 0:11:46.559 that pro racket staff and like, if you can learn 0:11:46.559 --> 0:11:50.480 all something about yourself, something about your likelihood for different 0:11:50.679 --> 0:11:53.800 um conditions, you can like, you know, make more informed 0:11:53.840 --> 0:11:56.599 and empowered choice at itself. Sure, I mean like I 0:11:56.679 --> 0:11:59.319 had another personal experience as well. You know, my father 0:12:00.480 --> 0:12:03.920 lost my grandmother, his mother, to Alzheimer's. He was her 0:12:04.280 --> 0:12:07.719 he was her primary caregiver at that time, and it's 0:12:07.720 --> 0:12:11.360 currently the primary care giver, primary caregiver for his partner, 0:12:11.480 --> 0:12:14.640 my stepmom, who also has Alzheimer's, and I've seen him 0:12:14.679 --> 0:12:17.520 close the way this impacts the family, having dealt with 0:12:17.600 --> 0:12:21.360 like really strong emotions observing you know, my stepmother's mental 0:12:21.400 --> 0:12:24.720 state evolved in the years since their diagnosis. But luckily 0:12:24.840 --> 0:12:27.840 my parents are runners, and being physically activist is really 0:12:27.880 --> 0:12:30.600 central to their lives, which has been found to help 0:12:30.640 --> 0:12:35.360 prevent and slow cognition impacts. So knowing that early, knowing 0:12:35.480 --> 0:12:39.560 that you have an increased likelihood of developing something like Alzheimer's, 0:12:39.880 --> 0:12:43.040 you can start off early on, you know, running, being 0:12:43.120 --> 0:12:46.120 this lee active and making those lifestyle changes that can 0:12:46.120 --> 0:12:48.840 actually you know, completely change the course of your life, 0:12:49.160 --> 0:12:50.880 you know, if you if you just have that info 0:12:51.000 --> 0:12:54.240 early on. So same thing with knowing if you're at 0:12:54.360 --> 0:12:58.319 risk with breast cancer, getting regular checkups and screenings and 0:12:58.480 --> 0:13:00.439 you know, get adjusting your diet to know that you're 0:13:00.440 --> 0:13:02.800 at risk of heart disease. Now it is, you know, 0:13:03.040 --> 0:13:07.760 important that we remind you, Like DNA testing, isn't in 0:13:07.880 --> 0:13:11.280 itself like recommending a treatment. Yeah. So. On the topic 0:13:11.320 --> 0:13:13.599 of breast cancer, the TTY three and met dr C 0:13:13.800 --> 0:13:16.320 A one and b r C A two Genetic Health 0:13:16.440 --> 0:13:20.560 Risk Report is intended for use with adults to report 0:13:20.679 --> 0:13:22.719 three genetic variants in the b r C A one 0:13:22.800 --> 0:13:25.240 and b r C A two genes associated with the 0:13:25.320 --> 0:13:28.520 higher risk of developing breasted or variant and prostate cancer. 0:13:29.040 --> 0:13:32.760 The report doesn't include variants and other genes linked to 0:13:32.840 --> 0:13:36.199 hereditary cancer, so it's not intended to diagnose any disease 0:13:36.280 --> 0:13:39.440 or tell you about your overall risk of developing disease. 0:13:39.920 --> 0:13:43.240 It's not intended to determine any treatments, and of course 0:13:43.320 --> 0:13:45.200 you know your results should be confirmed in a critical 0:13:45.280 --> 0:13:48.880 setting before taking any medical up, you know, any medical actions. 0:13:49.200 --> 0:13:52.280 So it's not a substitute for visits to healthcare professionals 0:13:52.720 --> 0:13:56.240 for recommended screenings are appropriate follow up UM. It can 0:13:56.320 --> 0:13:59.760 this kind of prompt you to consider UM lifestyle changes, 0:14:00.200 --> 0:14:01.880 what you want to talk about with your doctor, but 0:14:01.960 --> 0:14:04.559 ultimately you know it's important to go see a doctor 0:14:05.160 --> 0:14:07.320 and talk to them about, you know, very soon as 0:14:07.320 --> 0:14:10.120 you concerned about speaking of these twenty three in ME 0:14:10.360 --> 0:14:12.959 reports and DNA testing in general as a topic, like 0:14:13.040 --> 0:14:16.559 what are your general thoughts about that? I mean, like, 0:14:16.960 --> 0:14:19.360 bring me back to pregnancy once again. If I had 0:14:19.480 --> 0:14:23.480 known that I was at increased risk for just gestational 0:14:23.600 --> 0:14:27.720 diabetes while pregnant, um, that would at least have unsettled 0:14:27.920 --> 0:14:30.440 or at least would have settled some of the uncertainty 0:14:30.840 --> 0:14:32.560 of like simply not knowing when I went in to 0:14:32.640 --> 0:14:36.480 get my you know, blood tests, and I was like 0:14:36.520 --> 0:14:40.680 really nervous, like, um, that uncertainty was almost as bad 0:14:40.720 --> 0:14:42.240 as a lot of the other health stuff I was 0:14:42.320 --> 0:14:46.160 going through. But but again, I'm sorry. I don't know 0:14:46.160 --> 0:14:49.480 if he caught the yelling at doctor, But again, like 0:14:49.640 --> 0:14:52.600 having that knowledge and feeling empowered like okay, like I 0:14:52.640 --> 0:14:57.280 could kind of imagine some different potentialities here and be 0:14:57.360 --> 0:15:00.440 able to have frank conversations with my doctor around that, 0:15:01.040 --> 0:15:02.720 I would have felt great. But you know, I got 0:15:02.760 --> 0:15:04.840 through it, So I hope other people don't have to 0:15:04.880 --> 0:15:17.360 deal with that same thing. But let's be frank about it. 0:15:17.400 --> 0:15:19.680 You know, we're we're both sitting here and we haven't 0:15:20.280 --> 0:15:25.000 taken the town ourselves for this episode's sake. Um, it 0:15:25.120 --> 0:15:28.160 was something that we both needed more data and more 0:15:28.280 --> 0:15:31.640 information on. And you know, everyone has their reasons of 0:15:31.760 --> 0:15:35.040 being skin intregity with giving you know, just being frank 0:15:35.120 --> 0:15:40.040 with you handing over your DNA to a big company 0:15:40.360 --> 0:15:45.040 or something like that. So that's generally is my hesitation 0:15:45.360 --> 0:15:47.440 in doing it, is the fear of that, and then 0:15:47.520 --> 0:15:49.520 the fear of my privacy and the fear of you know, 0:15:49.680 --> 0:15:53.000 like we talked about finding out our data, and it's 0:15:53.040 --> 0:15:54.680 just like wanting to make sure that your data is 0:15:54.720 --> 0:15:57.760 in the right hands, you know, that it actually is 0:15:58.160 --> 0:16:00.520 data that that's like a personal fear or that I've 0:16:00.560 --> 0:16:04.800 had that was an obstacle in doing this because you know, 0:16:05.160 --> 0:16:06.880 like when we when we were approached for this, we 0:16:06.960 --> 0:16:09.560 were asked if we wanted to take the test. I 0:16:10.160 --> 0:16:12.000 didn't take it for that reason. And I got to 0:16:12.040 --> 0:16:15.400 say that through the course of of everything that we've 0:16:15.480 --> 0:16:18.000 read and everything that we've been looking at, I actually 0:16:18.080 --> 0:16:20.400 feel more comfortable with it now, and I actually do 0:16:20.520 --> 0:16:24.080 think I'm going to go get the report done after this. 0:16:24.720 --> 0:16:27.280 For all of the reasons that we've talked about them 0:16:27.880 --> 0:16:30.320 not a spring chicken of an m C. You know, 0:16:30.520 --> 0:16:32.520 like the whole thing would being like a rapper and 0:16:32.720 --> 0:16:35.920 m C and being in the hip hop. This this 0:16:37.000 --> 0:16:40.800 sense of invulnerability, you know, because it's such a youthful thing, 0:16:41.120 --> 0:16:42.840 you can kind of get slept up in thinking that 0:16:42.920 --> 0:16:45.280 you're going to be young forever and that you know 0:16:45.720 --> 0:16:47.760 you're gonna be fine and nothing's gonna hurt you, and 0:16:47.880 --> 0:16:51.160 not not taking your health seriously. And again, you know, 0:16:51.480 --> 0:16:53.280 it's not something you should just think about when you're 0:16:53.280 --> 0:16:55.560 getting older. But like we've been saying, this is all 0:16:55.600 --> 0:16:59.240 about preventative measure and preventative care. So the suitor that 0:16:59.320 --> 0:17:02.200 you start looking into things like that, even even if 0:17:03.000 --> 0:17:05.040 you don't go in the route of finding out your DNA, 0:17:05.200 --> 0:17:08.440 but if you take a proactive step in your health 0:17:08.600 --> 0:17:10.520 and maintaining it and making sure that you're in the 0:17:10.880 --> 0:17:12.840 you know, the best condition that you possibly could be in, 0:17:13.359 --> 0:17:16.680 that's always important. Yeah, you know, like people tell you 0:17:16.760 --> 0:17:18.960 all the time, Oh, you need to eat right, Oh 0:17:19.119 --> 0:17:21.520 you need to exercise, Oh you need to keep your 0:17:21.520 --> 0:17:24.240 blood pressure down and limit your sugar. But when you 0:17:24.359 --> 0:17:26.600 have like a concrete reason, like oh, I met, I 0:17:26.680 --> 0:17:29.680 know I'm at to increase risk for this, like that 0:17:29.840 --> 0:17:31.879 can really get you going, like, Okay, I really do 0:17:32.000 --> 0:17:33.760 need to hit the gym. I I do need to 0:17:33.800 --> 0:17:35.640 be I don't know, I'm drinking more water or whatever 0:17:35.680 --> 0:17:38.399 it is. Because it's not just this abstract you know, 0:17:38.560 --> 0:17:40.960 just people bombarding you with advice you didn't ask for. 0:17:41.200 --> 0:17:44.440 It's like really tied to your personal life. And so 0:17:44.560 --> 0:17:46.119 I mean I think that's a big benefit, and I 0:17:46.280 --> 0:17:50.720 definitely understand why, particularly within you know, the circles where 0:17:50.760 --> 0:17:56.240 we move, there's a lot of just medical hesitancy generally, um, 0:17:56.480 --> 0:18:00.920 you know, just given the legacy of things like just 0:18:01.280 --> 0:18:02.879 there's been there's I don't even want to to do 0:18:03.000 --> 0:18:05.600 it because like there's mad crazy things that have happened 0:18:05.640 --> 0:18:07.600 in our history, in our past and make people like 0:18:07.640 --> 0:18:10.840 I don't know about doctors though, but you know, putting 0:18:10.880 --> 0:18:15.119 that information directly into your hands, um, so you can 0:18:15.160 --> 0:18:16.960 decide what to do with it. It's not necessarily like, 0:18:17.040 --> 0:18:19.080 you know, whatever you gotta do with your doctor. If 0:18:19.080 --> 0:18:20.639 you don't like going to see doctor, I get it, 0:18:20.720 --> 0:18:23.320 you should go. But if you take the information and 0:18:23.400 --> 0:18:26.360 at least start making different choices in your personal life 0:18:26.359 --> 0:18:28.320 with regards to your diet, with the cards your exercise, 0:18:28.640 --> 0:18:31.680 Like there you go. You know, that's that's empowerment right there. 0:18:32.440 --> 0:18:34.720 But I definitely drove a little bit of my you know, 0:18:34.800 --> 0:18:38.280 concerned the first like I don't know doctor's medicine. I 0:18:38.400 --> 0:18:39.800 just like, you know, like I was saying about being 0:18:39.840 --> 0:18:42.840 the hospital, it's just been so nerve wracking to like 0:18:43.080 --> 0:18:45.680 and overwhelming to like take control of my health. But 0:18:45.760 --> 0:18:48.480 I kind of get it now, you know. Like no, 0:18:48.760 --> 0:18:51.960 I was gonna add on to that, like for people 0:18:52.000 --> 0:18:56.680 who haven't been in the like healthcare system and haven't 0:18:56.720 --> 0:18:58.640 had to deal with it yet, it's one of those 0:18:58.680 --> 0:19:02.600 things where it's like like you don't you don't know 0:19:03.520 --> 0:19:05.280 until you know, you know what I'm saying, Like, once 0:19:05.359 --> 0:19:09.399 you're in it, Shoot, the more information that you're armed with, 0:19:10.400 --> 0:19:13.760 the the easier it is to get through. I'm not 0:19:13.800 --> 0:19:15.760 saying it's easy at all, but it's like the more 0:19:15.880 --> 0:19:18.080 that you know about your own health that can save 0:19:18.160 --> 0:19:21.920 you so much time and money and like, to be 0:19:22.000 --> 0:19:24.879 honest with you, heartache, you know. Yeah. I mean, like 0:19:25.119 --> 0:19:27.080 for like I think it's probably like nine percent of 0:19:27.119 --> 0:19:29.200 the time being in the hospital. It is like one 0:19:29.280 --> 0:19:33.040 of the lower points of a person's life. Right, Like, 0:19:33.119 --> 0:19:35.120 nobody wants to be there unless you're like, yeah, I'm 0:19:35.160 --> 0:19:37.560 having a baby, it's outside it. But think about the 0:19:37.640 --> 0:19:40.119 fact that that medical head to dude that you know, 0:19:40.200 --> 0:19:42.320 people don't want to go to the people don't want 0:19:42.320 --> 0:19:45.840 to get these you know, blood tests and things. If 0:19:45.960 --> 0:19:49.920 you are proactive about lifestyle choices, you can avoid that 0:19:50.560 --> 0:19:56.639 larger unpleasantness of being in the hospital. Um because you 0:19:56.960 --> 0:20:00.320 you know, had the condition that ran unchecked and now 0:20:00.400 --> 0:20:03.639 it's really really adversely impacting you. Um. So on the 0:20:03.680 --> 0:20:05.440 flip side, it's like, you know, I didn't really I 0:20:05.600 --> 0:20:08.879 was like no, no about this because like of like 0:20:09.040 --> 0:20:12.880 skepticism about doctors and hospitals. But having this information can 0:20:13.119 --> 0:20:17.960 help you avoid deep intentions with it. Um. If you 0:20:18.080 --> 0:20:19.920 if you really want to like, all right, I'm gonna 0:20:19.960 --> 0:20:21.760 get my life right, I'm gonna do what I need 0:20:21.880 --> 0:20:24.760 to for myself and my health, for my family who 0:20:24.800 --> 0:20:26.719 wants me to live a happy and full life. Right, 0:20:26.840 --> 0:20:30.280 So that's kind cool. So yeah, I mean, at the 0:20:30.400 --> 0:20:33.359 end of the day, everybody has to do what's right 0:20:33.440 --> 0:20:35.719 for them, and everybody has to do what's comfortable for them. 0:20:36.200 --> 0:20:39.680 This is just one of different avenues that you can 0:20:40.359 --> 0:20:44.960 look into um on this particular issue of your health. 0:20:45.520 --> 0:20:48.680 DNA testing. It's not the be all and end all. 0:20:49.359 --> 0:20:51.600 And also, you know, you might even be thrown off 0:20:52.200 --> 0:20:54.640 because we're talking about twenty three and me and you're 0:20:54.680 --> 0:20:57.680 thinking that I thought that was ancestry and whatnot, and 0:20:57.800 --> 0:21:00.359 it's you know that you can do more with the 0:21:00.440 --> 0:21:03.440 knowledge of your DNA than just find out who you know, 0:21:03.800 --> 0:21:06.240 what your ancestry is. And that's part of what this 0:21:06.400 --> 0:21:08.879 is all about. It's just a tool. Black people are 0:21:08.880 --> 0:21:14.320 at a higher risk of diabetes, heart disease, sickle cell cancer. 0:21:14.400 --> 0:21:17.760 I mean, these are all reasons to be proactive about it. 0:21:18.119 --> 0:21:20.840 And also, and I'm sure Mariah agree with me on this, 0:21:21.040 --> 0:21:25.320 we're advocates of mental health and in our communities, we 0:21:25.440 --> 0:21:28.440 have a laundry list of things that we're stressing about 0:21:28.480 --> 0:21:30.800 and that we're worried about from day to day, and 0:21:31.359 --> 0:21:35.399 don't think for a second that your health concerns aren't 0:21:35.440 --> 0:21:38.520 adding on to that. So it's important also to consider 0:21:38.640 --> 0:21:42.399 I think the relationship between our physical health and our 0:21:42.440 --> 0:21:46.000 overall well being, inclusive of mental health, and so being 0:21:46.040 --> 0:21:48.440 able to like go in and have that empowered conversation 0:21:48.560 --> 0:21:51.160 can have you know, I don't know, like a sense 0:21:51.240 --> 0:21:53.960 of self esteem. I don't ways say building, but you 0:21:54.000 --> 0:21:56.040 know what I mean, Like you you feel a little 0:21:56.080 --> 0:21:59.000 more empowered, you feel a little more confident because you're 0:21:59.080 --> 0:22:01.639 armed with information. I feel like, you know, I think 0:22:01.680 --> 0:22:04.399 that's like a universal principle if you're going into something like, 0:22:04.480 --> 0:22:07.119 all right, I got this information to draw off of, 0:22:07.840 --> 0:22:10.840 like preparation itself for whatever it is that you have 0:22:10.920 --> 0:22:14.600 to deal with. Um. I think I'm definitely you know, 0:22:14.680 --> 0:22:16.879 going back to the example of pregnancy, there's so so 0:22:17.040 --> 0:22:20.200 much uncertainty, so many things they're just not and it's 0:22:20.280 --> 0:22:22.760 it's not just like the physical toll of my knees 0:22:22.760 --> 0:22:25.400