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Speaker 1: Bold reverence, and occasionally random. The Sunday Hang with Playing

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Speaker 1: you are familiar with the Liver King I am. I'm

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Speaker 1: somebody who if you go on my Instagram or my

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Speaker 1: my I do have TikTok and oh my gosh, I'm

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Speaker 1: I look big tech as a spying mechanism across the board,

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Speaker 1: So just pick your spying. But if you go on

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Speaker 1: It's cooking steak, it's working out, and it's like life

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Speaker 1: advice and hacks like you know, can you know stoic

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Speaker 1: wisdom things like that. Those are my favorite topics. Oh

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Speaker 1: and bulldogs of all English French bulldogs. That's really I'm

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Speaker 1: cooking steaks with French bulldogs on skateboards while people are

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Speaker 1: talking about how to lead a good and balanced and

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Speaker 1: the agents. Anyway, that's that's what it. But I do

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Speaker 1: and I don't even know his real name. If you're

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Speaker 1: fellow who advocates the eating of liver, obviously liver and

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Speaker 1: also other oregan meat to include uh, bull testies substance.

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Speaker 1: Are you familiar? You know that he eats a lot

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Speaker 1: he's I believe they're called Rocky Mountain oysters. Uh, seriously,

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Speaker 1: I like the guy. I actually the least the thing

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Speaker 1: it was. It was entertaining. He talks about being primal,

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Speaker 1: living a life of your ancestors. He's essentially another iteration

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Speaker 1: of the Uh, what's you know, Keto Caveman, Paleo died, Paleo,

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Speaker 1: And unfortunately it has come out that, by the way,

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Speaker 1: think of who you are. He's apologized. Now, Oh so

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Speaker 1: let's hear here is the liver King saying, well, people

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Speaker 1: have said he used steroids a lot, a lot, a lot.

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Speaker 1: Here's what he says. Yes, I've done steroids, and yes

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Speaker 1: I'm on steroids monitored and managed by trained hormone clinician.

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Speaker 1: Liver King the public figure was an experiment to spread

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Speaker 1: the message, to bring awareness to the four thousand people

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Speaker 1: at record rates with depression, autoimmune anxiety, infertility, low ambition

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Speaker 1: in life, well spreading the message. I've been on several

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Speaker 1: podcasts and when asked if I've ever taken steroids, I've

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Speaker 1: I gotta say I like this guy because he talks

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Speaker 1: of the message. My frustration here is just twofold one.

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Speaker 1: anybody who is insanely super ripped, I just always assume

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Speaker 1: And I've known liver King was on steroids all along.

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