1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:04,359 Speaker 1: Welcome in his verdict with Center, Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson 2 00:00:04,519 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 1: with you and Center, we are in a government shutdown 3 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:10,879 Speaker 1: that is ending, and the official vote on that's going 4 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 1: to take place today. For most Americans, that means things 5 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:18,279 Speaker 1: will get back to normal pretty soon, but it's still 6 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:20,600 Speaker 1: chaos and the skies as well well. 7 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 2: That's right. The shutdown very likely ends today. The House 8 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 2: of Representatives is going to vote later this afternoon on 9 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 2: the appropriations package and the continuing resolution that the Senate 10 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 2: passed on Monday. Our podcast that we put out, we 11 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 2: predicted that the government would open on Wednesday, and I 12 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 2: think it's very likely to. When the House passes it, 13 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 2: I expect the President to sign it pretty much immediately. 14 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 2: And once it's signed, the funding has returned now and 15 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 2: now it will take a little bit of time. I 16 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 2: don't know how quickly paychecks will process. So for the 17 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 2: federal employees who haven't gotten paychecks now for forty four days, 18 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 2: they would really like their paychecks. And I'll tell you 19 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 2: there are a lot of places like I'll give you 20 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 2: an example, Capitol Hill. There are a lot of people 21 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 2: on Capitol Hill staffers who have not gotten paid. Capitol 22 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 2: Police that have not gotten paid. All of the employees, 23 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:13,839 Speaker 2: the employees who drive the subways have not gotten paid. 24 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:19,039 Speaker 2: Everyone who's an employee of the federal government, the custodians, 25 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 2: the electricians, they have not gotten paid. And look not 26 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:25,919 Speaker 2: to mention the TSA agents and the Air traffic Control 27 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 2: agents and the border patrol agents, and throughout the federal government. 28 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:33,679 Speaker 2: Thousands and thousands of people have not gotten paid, particularly 29 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 2: for some of the younger ones. Like on Capitol Hill, 30 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 2: you've got you know, young men and women that are 31 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 2: twenty two to twenty three years old. 32 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:42,319 Speaker 3: This is their first job out of college there. 33 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 2: You know, some of them may have some savings, but 34 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 2: many of them don't have any savings at all. And 35 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 2: I'll tell you they're stressed. I mean, they're very stressed. 36 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 2: So my hope is the paychecks will come very quickly. 37 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 2: I don't know if they will come as quickly as Thursday, 38 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 2: or how long it will take actually the pipes to 39 00:01:57,720 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 2: do the direct deposit, but my hope is it will 40 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 2: will be quite quick after the government opens sometime Wednesday evening, 41 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:08,920 Speaker 2: when I anticipate the President will sign the legislation. Some 42 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 2: of the other delays will take a little bit more time. 43 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 2: Presumably when the government opens Wednesday, each of the cabinet 44 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 2: agencies will send out emails and notify the non essential personnel, 45 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 2: the personnel who'd been furloughed come back to work, and 46 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 2: so I'm anticipating they'll come back to work Thursday morning 47 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:28,639 Speaker 2: because everyone's knowing this is coming. 48 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 3: So I think you'll see full staff. 49 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 4: Now. 50 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 2: It may take a little bit of time to start 51 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 2: government services flowing at the same speed that they normally 52 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 2: flow at, and something like air travel in particular, my 53 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 2: suspicion is there'll be more of a lag in air travel. 54 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 2: I anticipate that we'll continue to see delays and cancelations 55 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 2: for several days beyond today, because what's driving the delays 56 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 2: and cancelations is that a lot of the air traffic 57 00:02:56,560 --> 00:03:00,920 Speaker 2: controllers and TSA agents have been calling in sick. Maybe 58 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:04,959 Speaker 2: that immediately turns around on Thursday, but that depends upon 59 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 2: the decision of fifty thousand TSA agents and fourteen thousand 60 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 2: air traffic controllers, and the FAA is not going to 61 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 2: return to full capacity flights until we have sufficient numbers 62 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 2: of controllers in the air Traffic Control room to ensure 63 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 2: that people are flying safely. 64 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 1: That's going to be a really important part of the 65 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:25,639 Speaker 1: equation as you described it there, and it's a smart 66 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 1: way that I think what we've really seen is true 67 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: leadership from the Transportation Secretary on that issue and the 68 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 1: Trump administration to make sure, hey, yeah there's some delays, 69 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 1: but we're going to make sure you're safe from the skies. 70 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 1: And that is one of the caveats to all of 71 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: this is at least you know that someone's kind of 72 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 1: looking out for your well being. And look, there's one 73 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 1: party just playing pure politics trying to hurt people. There's 74 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: another that's playing defense and trying to protect you. That 75 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 1: is I think the takeaway from this shutdown. 76 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 3: I think that's right. 77 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 2: We also saw that the President called for ten thousand 78 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 2: dollars bonuses the air traffic controllers who work during the shutdown. 79 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 2: I think that's a great policy. I think that that 80 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 2: makes an awful lot of sense. I would like to 81 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 2: see the law change so that air traffic controllers get 82 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 2: paid whether there's a shutdown or not. And as you know, 83 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:20,720 Speaker 2: I voted multiple times for Ron Johnson's legislation that would 84 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 2: pay all essential employees so that you don't have federal 85 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:27,279 Speaker 2: workers forced to come in and work, but not to 86 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 2: get a paycheck, because that's what drives things like the 87 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 2: sickouts and people not showing up. And so I think 88 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:37,840 Speaker 2: it would make perfect sense to to have written as 89 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 2: a matter of law that regardless of whether there's there's 90 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 2: a shutdown, soldiers and sailors and airmen and marines and 91 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 2: FBI agents and border patrol agents and ice agents and 92 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 2: air traffic controllers and TSA agents, and everyone who is 93 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 2: essential who is required to work, they get paid. The 94 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 2: problem has been that Democrats have voted against that over 95 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 2: and over and over again. I don't really see that 96 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 2: changing because look, one of the consequences of this, we 97 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 2: have funded three appropriations bills. We've funded the Agricultural Appropriations 98 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 2: Bill that includes the programs for farmers and ranchers, that 99 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 2: includes snaps, so food stamps is funded. All of that's 100 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:20,359 Speaker 2: funded for a year, so there won't be a shutdown 101 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 2: on that going forward. We have also funded military construction 102 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:27,719 Speaker 2: and the VA so that's really important both for construction 103 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 2: projects at military bases across the country and that's a 104 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 2: job driver and it's important for our military defense. 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If this is brought 151 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 1: up after the shutdown. What is the main reason why 152 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 1: Democrats are against it? Is it just pure leverage at 153 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 1: this point? 154 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 2: Yes, No, that they want to inflict maximum pain. They 155 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 2: want the shutdown to be painful for the American people, 156 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:35,319 Speaker 2: and it's so they don't want that. They were furious 157 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 2: when Trump paid the military and he had enough funds 158 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 2: from the One Big Beautiful Bill that he could shift 159 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 2: money around and pay the military. They wanted the military 160 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 2: not to be paid. They're looking for maximum pain because 161 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 2: and they've said this, they've been very candid. They say 162 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 2: that's where they get leverage. You know, tonight, it's Tuesday night, 163 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 2: it's Veterans Day. So I want to say to everyone 164 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 2: who defended this nation, every veteran, and we have thank you. 165 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:04,679 Speaker 2: We are we are grateful for your your service, your sacrifice. 166 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 3: Our liberties are here because of you. I am rutting 167 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:10,439 Speaker 3: right now. Today. I'm I'm in Miami. 168 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 2: So this evening I spoke at the Miami Dade County 169 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 2: Lincoln Day Dinner. Uh, it's a huge event, over one 170 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 2: thousand people. You know, Miami Dade County has been a 171 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 2: Democrat stronghold for decades. This last cycle, we flipped Dade 172 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 2: County red. It is a Republican county. Republicans won multiple 173 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 2: elections up and down the up and down the slate. 174 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 2: There was a lot of energy there tonight. But I 175 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 2: got to say ben I started by telling everyone. I said, 176 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 2: last night, I was on the floor of the Senate. 177 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 2: Bernie Sanders was screaming, Elizabeth Warren let out an angry 178 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 2: war hoop, Corey Booker curled up in a ball Adam 179 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 2: Schiff was pounding, and Chuck Schumer was crying. And that's 180 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 2: not exactly right. But I said, you know what all 181 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 2: of that says. It was a great day for America. 182 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 2: The Democrats were consuming each other because there were eight 183 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 2: Democrats that finally, after forty two days, showed the courage 184 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 2: to say, enough is enough, let's reopen the government. And 185 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 2: the Democrats turned on each other with a viciousness that 186 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 2: is truly extraordinary. So here was a major story in 187 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 2: the Washington Post headline, Democrats pushed for a ruthlessly pragmatic 188 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 2: approach to counter Trump. And here's what the Post reported. 189 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:38,719 Speaker 2: The fury at eight Democratic alligned senators who voted with 190 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 2: Republicans to end the longest ever government shutdown highlights the 191 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 2: dramatic shift in the Democratic Party less than a year 192 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:49,319 Speaker 2: into President Trump's second term, as voters and lawmakers argue 193 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 2: that the party needs to adopt a more ruthless tactics 194 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 2: to counter the president and claw its way back to power. 195 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 2: So listen, the Democrats are saying, the longest shut down 196 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 2: in history wasn't ruthless, it needs to be worse. Post continues. 197 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 2: The reaction into the two votes on Sunday and Monday, 198 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 2: which provide a pathway for the government to reopen after 199 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 2: more than forty days, was fierce. Representative Roe Kanna, Democrat 200 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 2: from California, called for Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer to 201 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 2: be replaced, suggesting he was an ineffective leader. Even though 202 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 2: Schumer opposed the government funding measures. So Schumer voted no, 203 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:27,679 Speaker 2: but it doesn't matter. They want to throw him out anyway. 204 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:32,359 Speaker 2: House Minority Leader at Keem Jeffreys, Democrat New York, blasted 205 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 2: the eight senators and said the House Democrats would not 206 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 2: support a government funding bill that did not include the 207 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:41,439 Speaker 2: healthcare measures the party has demanded. So today the Democrats, 208 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 2: presumably all or virtually all, are going to vote to 209 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 2: keep the shut down going. 210 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:45,839 Speaker 6: Now. 211 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 2: I fully expect House Republicans will provide the votes needed 212 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 2: to send this to the president. But here's what the 213 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 2: post continues. Democratic advocacy groups, politically vulnerable lawmakers, potential twenty 214 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 2: twenty eight p residential candidates, and voters all followed suit, 215 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 2: lambasting those in the party they saw as caving. The 216 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 2: desire for Democrats to hold firm despite the pain inflicted 217 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 2: by the shutdown, even though the party's prior posture was 218 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 2: that shutdowns are self destructive, was the latest sign that 219 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 2: the party has decided it must adopt an altogether different playbook. 220 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:29,080 Speaker 2: Given Trump's willingness to resort to unprecedented measures to consolidate 221 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:33,439 Speaker 2: and maintain powers, rather than try to uphold norms as 222 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 2: the president shatters them, they have decided to fight Trump 223 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 2: with tactics they previously disdained, and they have excoriated those 224 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 2: who stood in the way, whether on redistricting or candidates 225 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:49,559 Speaker 2: with problematic pasts and here's one of my colleagues, Chris 226 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 2: van Holland, one of the more liberal Democrats. Quote, early on, 227 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 2: there were not enough members of Congress who recognized the 228 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 2: magnitude of the threat Donald Trump poses to our democracy 229 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 2: and constitution. That has changed. Van Holland said that there 230 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 2: were a few senators and what he has dubbed the 231 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 2: quote no business as usual caucus at the beginning of 232 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 2: Trump's term, but it has since grown dramatically in response 233 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:13,959 Speaker 2: to energy from the party's base. 234 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 3: Quote. 235 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 2: The lesson is there is power and unity and in 236 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 2: members of Congress working in partnership with the grassroots community. 237 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 2: This is why so many people are feeling let down 238 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 2: at this moment, because that unity was important. This is 239 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 2: the reaction on the Democrat side. They are Schumer is 240 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 2: besieged from all sides, and he started this shutdown again. 241 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:37,959 Speaker 5: With a civil war. Let's be clear. 242 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 1: And that's part of what I got to ask you about, 243 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 1: is there are Democrats now that are basically like off 244 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 1: with his head and leadership. 245 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 5: They want him gone. They're publicly saying, now, oh, you're saying, 246 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:49,320 Speaker 5: this is the end of him. He has done. 247 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 1: MSNBC said it multiple times. CNN commentators said the same thing, 248 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 1: like he's done. They got to get rid of him. 249 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:57,959 Speaker 1: His career is over. This goes back to the being 250 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 1: held hostage by the Marxists, social in the communists of 251 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 1: the Democratic Party. Now they didn't police him. Now they're 252 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 1: running the party and they're anarchists. And Chuck Schumer shut 253 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 1: down the government for the longest period in history of 254 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 1: this country, and that wasn't good enough for them. 255 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:16,680 Speaker 2: And he still voted no on reopening it. So he 256 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 2: shut it down for the longest in history. He voted 257 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 2: no consistently, and yet they're still off with his head. 258 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 2: It really is the crazies are driving the Democrat Party. 259 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 2: And look, if you don't believe me, maybe you will 260 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 2: believe John Fetterman. I want you to listen to this exchange. 261 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 2: Senator John Fetterman, Democrat from Pennsylvania, was on the view 262 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 2: and Sonny, you know, one of the left wing hosts 263 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 2: there comes after him and comes after him hard. Listen 264 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 2: to her unhinged question and then listen to Fetterman's response. 265 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 7: Well. 266 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 4: Senator Bernie Sanders said the vote was a horrific mistake. 267 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 4: Governor Gavin Newsom called it pathetic and a surrender. Poll 268 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 4: after poll found more Americans on both sides of the 269 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 4: aisle blaming Republicans. Even Marjorie Taylor Green blamed the GOP. 270 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 4: As you mentioned, Democrats have big wins last week, so 271 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 4: you had momentum. 272 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 3: Why give in? 273 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 4: Now? Why bring a butter knife to a gunfight. Are 274 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 4: you willing to gamble that the GOLP will negotiate on 275 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 4: healthcare in good faith once the government reopens? Because if 276 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 4: that gamble is wrong, half a million Pennsylvanians that you represent, 277 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 4: their healthcare cost will skyrocket if you are wrong, and 278 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 4: I believe you are wrong. 279 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 8: Well, first of all, MTG is quite literally the last 280 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 8: person in America that I'm going to take advice or 281 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 8: to get their kinds. 282 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 9: Of my leadership and values from. 283 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 8: And now if Democrats are celebrating crazy pants like that, 284 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 8: then that's on them. And now I don't need and 285 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 8: I don't need a lecture. I don't need a lecture 286 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 8: from from whether it's Bernie or the governor in California, 287 00:15:57,040 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 8: because they are representing very deep blue blue kinds of 288 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 8: populations and a lot of those things, a lot of 289 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 8: those things were part of the extreme. And I'll remember 290 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 8: what really needs to win. To win, the big win 291 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 8: is involving my state and other states and those things. 292 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 8: And why have we arrived here after the election a 293 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 8: year ago. We want to forget, we got to forget. 294 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 8: Some of the things that cost us that election are 295 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 8: now for me. It's like, that's why I'm trying to 296 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 8: remind people that kinds of the extreme newism, we can't 297 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 8: return to those kind of things and realize we need 298 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 8: to find a way forward. And I would like to 299 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 8: rather than cite MTG, I'm going to cite one of 300 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 8: the new governor elects saying that my election is not 301 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 8: a green light to continue this shutdown, because I promise 302 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 8: you this isn't a political game. It is viewed by 303 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 8: that by many of us. But the reality is forty 304 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 8: two million Americans now not sure where their next meal 305 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 8: is going to come from. And because we vote like that, 306 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 8: vote like that, or people that haven't been paid for 307 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 8: five weeks now, and that kinds of chaos. Those workers 308 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 8: are more than half a billion dollars, you know, from 309 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:09,439 Speaker 8: their credit union, just to pay their bills. 310 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:12,440 Speaker 1: Now you with him talking about paying their bills, and 311 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 1: I love that from Fetterman. There they also were very 312 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 1: quiet because I didn't think I don't think they realized 313 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 1: he was going to come back with facts that way 314 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 1: and describe it. I jokingly said to you before the 315 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:27,400 Speaker 1: show started, when's John Fetterman going to join the Republican 316 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:30,400 Speaker 1: Party because he's been speaking an awful lot. 317 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 5: Of truth about the reality this shutdown. 318 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:36,160 Speaker 2: Well, look, I like John Fetterman, and I will tell 319 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:39,919 Speaker 2: you Republicans actually treated much more nicely than the Democrats do. 320 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:42,680 Speaker 2: The Democrats are mean to him, they're vicious to him. 321 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:46,880 Speaker 2: They that they really have a deep antipathy to him. 322 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 2: And the amazing thing he votes the overwhelming majority of 323 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 2: the time with the Democrats. You know, he's on the 324 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:58,440 Speaker 2: Commerce Committee with me. On virtually every vote he votes 325 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 2: party line with the Democrats. On most votes on the floor, 326 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 2: he votes party line with the Democrats. He has a 327 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:07,880 Speaker 2: few defections. So he did vote to open the government, 328 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 2: and that's viewed as this great heresy because he didn't 329 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 2: want to have a force a government shut down and 330 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:17,359 Speaker 2: hurt millions of Americans and continue the longest government shut 331 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 2: down in history. And the main area that he's been 332 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:25,879 Speaker 2: willing to dissent from virtually every other Congressional Democrat is 333 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 2: in support of Israel. And we've talked about before that 334 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 2: there is a real and cognizable pro Hamas caucus in 335 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:37,680 Speaker 2: the Democrat Party. It rose up about ten years ago. 336 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 2: The Democrats did nothing. They look the other way, and 337 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 2: it's now taken over their party. And Fetterman is a 338 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 2: massive outlier because he is genuinely pro Israel. He is 339 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 2: vocally pro Israel, and the radicals in the Democrat Party 340 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 2: hate him for that. And again, if you don't believe me, 341 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 2: listen to what John Fetterman said on exactly this topic. 342 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 7: Are not Jewish at least as far as I know, 343 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:05,359 Speaker 7: feel free to feel fear to come out here to 344 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:08,119 Speaker 7: me right now. But you have been one of the 345 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 7: most outspoken. It's beyond Washington, it's beyond politicians. You have 346 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 7: been one of the most outspoken people in American life 347 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:17,879 Speaker 7: on the issue of anti Semitism. 348 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 5: Why is this issue so important to you? 349 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 9: Ironically, I did that twenty three and me I'm ninety 350 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:31,679 Speaker 9: seven percent German and three percent Neanderthal, And it's like, 351 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 9: maybe it's ironic that that a big german guy from 352 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:40,199 Speaker 9: Pennsylvania has been very absolutely devoted to Israel and to 353 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 9: experience the kind of anti Semitism and in my life, 354 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 9: I mean, you know what, you know, the Tree of Life, 355 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 9: I mean, that's that's where you're from, too. Absolutely appalling, 356 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:53,360 Speaker 9: and my heart breaks for what the Jewish community's suffered, 357 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 9: especially after ten to seven. I've had the honor of meeting, 358 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 9: you know, members of the is former people that were 359 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 9: kept underground for five hundred days. Five hundred days. I mean, 360 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 9: those are heroes. I've met with widows their husbands were 361 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 9: lost in the Gaza War and they have eight children, 362 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 9: raising eight children by their own. That's a hero for 363 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 9: all of it. So for me, it's heartbreaking, and that's 364 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:23,880 Speaker 9: been what's so difficult for me is like being devotion 365 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 9: to Israel becoming increasingly incompatible with being a proud Democrat 366 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 9: now too, and that's put me at odds. And the 367 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:34,159 Speaker 9: things that put me at odds have all converged at 368 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:36,680 Speaker 9: the same time, you know, the gods of war, the 369 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 9: peace deal, and then we moved right into a shutdown, 370 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 9: you know, like now Democrats might not be allowed to 371 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 9: hold these views, and I'm not changing my party, and 372 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 9: you know, run the numbers, run the numbers, you know, 373 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 9: you would find that I'm a Democrat. 374 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 5: You know he is a Democrat. 375 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 1: But you've walked past his Senate office countless times. I've 376 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 1: walked past it probably dozens of times when I'm up 377 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:05,920 Speaker 1: in DC, and he had all the hostage pictures up 378 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 1: in his front office, which I thought was incredible. 379 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 3: Look, he has been genuinely courageous and sincerely courageous on Israel, 380 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:23,359 Speaker 3: and it's earned the absolute ire, hatred, animosity, venom of 381 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 3: the radical left in the Democrat Party. I mean, you 382 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 3: heard what he just said there, that that that being 383 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 3: pro Israel is becoming incompatible with being a proud Democrat. 384 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:37,879 Speaker 3: I mean, that's a that's a tragic statement. I wish 385 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:41,880 Speaker 3: that statement were not true, but it is the biggest 386 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:47,119 Speaker 3: reason why their radicals hate him and much of you know, 387 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 3: when he was first elected and he came into office, 388 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,159 Speaker 3: he had had a stroke during the campaign and the 389 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:57,119 Speaker 3: stroke was very debilitating. When when John showed up, the 390 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:01,640 Speaker 3: stroke really limited Like when I first met him, what 391 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:04,719 Speaker 3: the stroke did is it limited his ability to process 392 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 3: auditory input. So you would talk to him and his 393 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:13,879 Speaker 3: brain was not able to process the words he was hearing, 394 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:15,440 Speaker 3: and so he would. 395 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:18,879 Speaker 2: Carry with him an iPad that had a translator because 396 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 2: it just this is one of the consequences that can 397 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:24,920 Speaker 2: be from a stroke is your ability to process words 398 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 2: that you hear. Your brain just can't put them together. 399 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:29,439 Speaker 2: So you would talk and he would read it. But 400 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:32,160 Speaker 2: when he first got there, you would talk to him 401 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 2: and he would literally he was not able to understand 402 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:36,680 Speaker 2: what you were saying. And I mean it hurt your heart. 403 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 2: I mean, this is a is a very bright man. 404 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 2: The man's a Harvard graduate, but he had a medical 405 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:47,399 Speaker 2: issue that he had real consequences. Early on, the Democrats 406 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 2: all circled around him and said, you know, he's perfectly capable. 407 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 2: There are no issues whatsoever. Because they assumed he would 408 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 2: be a left wing Democrat, that's what they expected of him. 409 00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 2: That was not a crazy expectation going in. And then 410 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 2: when he started standing up, particularly on Israel, standing up 411 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:10,359 Speaker 2: and defying the Prohamas Caucus, you started seeing the Democrats 412 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 2: leaking and planning stories and really attacking his mental capability. 413 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 2: And the irony is, look you heard in those exchanges. 414 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 2: He's now able to have a conversation, he still is 415 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,439 Speaker 2: a little halting in his communication. I think that's some 416 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:27,879 Speaker 2: of the aftermath of the stroke, But the difference is 417 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:30,119 Speaker 2: night and day. You can now have a conversation and 418 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 2: he can hear you in a way that when he 419 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 2: showed up in the Senate he was not able to. 420 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 2: And yet Democrats are running to reporters to plant negative 421 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:44,200 Speaker 2: stories attacking him. Many of his colleagues want to drive 422 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 2: him out of the party, and at least on the 423 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:51,639 Speaker 2: Republican side, I like John and I think consistently all 424 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:53,479 Speaker 2: the Republicans are just trying to be nice to him. 425 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 2: By the way, they did the same thing to Joe Manchin, 426 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 2: they did the same thing to Kirsten Cinemon. They succeeded 427 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 2: in driving both of them out of the Park Party 428 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 2: because they want no descent. You must obey and follow 429 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 2: orders or they'll do everything they can to drive you out. 430 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 2: And to be honest, both Cinema and Mansion, I think 431 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 2: Republicans were much nicer to than Democrats were, and the 432 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 2: consequence was they were both driven out of the party. 433 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 1: For the last several weeks, you've heard me talk with 434 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 1: Joshua Rhard at Berna and tell stories about people just 435 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 1: like you and I and how they've used their burn 436 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,639 Speaker 1: a launcher protect themselves and their families. Now, if you 437 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:31,879 Speaker 1: don't know what a burna is, it is a handheld 438 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:35,919 Speaker 1: pistol that fires both kinetic rounds and chemical irritants to 439 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 1: separate you from an attacker. 440 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 5: And it's truly amazing. Now Josh is back today. 441 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 1: To share a story about a store owner and how 442 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,399 Speaker 1: a Berner launcher could have really come in handy. 443 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,200 Speaker 6: Yes, so in Seattle, the owner of local small business 444 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 6: decided to have a sidewalk sale to engage more directly 445 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 6: with her community. Well, today was going great when a 446 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 6: male walking down the middle of the street could be 447 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 6: seen yelling, streaming, and huting passing cars. This man was 448 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 6: clearly suffering from an acute mental episode when he then 449 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:07,200 Speaker 6: approached the store owner began threatening her. After several failed 450 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:10,640 Speaker 6: attempts at de escalating the situation, the woman ultimately tried 451 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 6: to go back into the store to try to get 452 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 6: to safety, and it was then that the deranged man 453 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,119 Speaker 6: yelled that he was going to gouge out her eyes 454 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 6: and then grabbed her, slammed her to the ground, and 455 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:22,880 Speaker 6: began choking her. It was only due to several good 456 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 6: Samaritans that jumped in to pull him off of her 457 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 6: that probably saved her life. 458 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:29,880 Speaker 5: You know, this is a growing trend. 459 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:33,879 Speaker 1: Unfortunately, mental health is a serious issue, and in areas 460 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:38,160 Speaker 1: with larger homeless populations, these individuals affected by this can 461 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:39,159 Speaker 1: really get violent. 462 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:41,680 Speaker 5: Could BERNA still be effective in this case? 463 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 6: Absolutely? You know, mental health is striking populations all over America, 464 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 6: and those with mental health issues that also have substance 465 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 6: of abuse issues are over eleven hundred times more likely 466 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 6: to commit violent crime. And the problem is you never 467 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,919 Speaker 6: know when that may happen. Berna, especially used with our 468 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 6: chemical agent project, will incapacitate even those suffering from those 469 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,399 Speaker 6: acute mental episodes. So Burne is a great tool to 470 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 6: use when you absolutely have no idea that you may 471 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:09,119 Speaker 6: need it. 472 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 1: If you want to find out more about BERNA can 473 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 1: help you or your family members. It's a great gift 474 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 1: for the holidays coming for someone you want to help protect. 475 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 1: Go to burner by RNA dot com. That's Burna b 476 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 1: y RNA dot com Burna dot Com. 477 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 5: Final question on this as we move forward, what does 478 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:32,400 Speaker 5: your gut say about another government shut down early next year? 479 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,680 Speaker 2: I think it is very likely when the CR expires 480 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:41,639 Speaker 2: on January thirtieth. I don't see a fundamental dynamic that 481 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:46,159 Speaker 2: changes now maybe maybe maybe maybe the eight Democrats who 482 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:49,920 Speaker 2: cut the deal. Now, maybe on January thirtieth, they cut 483 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 2: the deal at the front end. That's possible, I can 484 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 2: tell you. As we were sitting there on Monday, and 485 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:00,240 Speaker 2: they had cast the initial vote on Sunday and were 486 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:04,880 Speaker 2: getting savaged on the Republican side, we felt a real 487 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 2: urgency a vote now now now, because look, we were 488 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:12,359 Speaker 2: very afraid one of them would flip. 489 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:13,680 Speaker 3: I mean, I mean it. 490 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,679 Speaker 2: There is typically a limit to how much abuse an 491 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,680 Speaker 2: elected official can take, and and and the left wing 492 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 2: base was savaging those eight. Now we actually had a 493 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 2: delay because John Kennedy, who's a good friend of mine, 494 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 2: was put in fact, he's been on the podcast just 495 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:36,359 Speaker 2: a week ago. Yeah, John was pressing for a resolution 496 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 2: that says, if there's a shutdown, senators will not be 497 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 2: paid so long as federal workers are not being paid. 498 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:47,719 Speaker 2: And as you know, I voluntarily did that, so I 499 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,639 Speaker 2: have not taken a paycheck for the entire length of 500 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 2: this this shutdown. I sent a written letter to the 501 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 2: Secretary of the Senate saying, hold my paycheck. I'm not 502 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:57,879 Speaker 2: going to be paid as long as their federal workers 503 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 2: who are not being paid. So so whenever the at 504 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 2: some point, I'll get my paychecks from the last forty 505 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,159 Speaker 2: days in the next presumably few days, whenever the other 506 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,359 Speaker 2: federal workers do. I don't know when that will come. 507 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 2: But many, and I think most of the Democrats did 508 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 2: not do that. They continued taking their paychecks throughout, which 509 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:21,920 Speaker 2: was an incredible hypocrisy. And so Kennedy was pushing really 510 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:25,920 Speaker 2: hard for saying, look, no senator should get paid while 511 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 2: there's a shutdown. He wanted a vote when we were 512 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 2: taking this up and voting on it. He wanted a 513 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 2: separate amendment vote on that. And it was a challenge 514 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 2: because the Democrats were refusing to give that amendment vote 515 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 2: and saying, if you get that amendment vote, then we 516 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 2: want a bunch of amendment votes, And so everything was paralyzed, 517 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 2: and it could have delayed. Instead of the Senate voting 518 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 2: Monday night, it could have delayed till Tuesday or Wednesday 519 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 2: or Thursday, And I and many others were really concerned 520 00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 2: if it delayed till Tuesday or Wednesday or Thursday for 521 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 2: the Senate to vote, one or more of the eight 522 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 2: Democrats would get cold feet and flip. And so actually 523 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 2: the way it got resolved as I went to John 524 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 2: Kennedy's office, and he and I are good friends, and 525 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 2: I said, look, can we work something out? Because he 526 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 2: was really mad, he was frustrated that he couldn't get 527 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 2: his vote. I said, can we work something out that 528 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 2: lets us vote to reopen the government and get you 529 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 2: what you want? And so we cut an agreement that 530 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 2: next week the Rules Committee on which I serve, is 531 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 2: going to vote on John Kennedy's resolution, and I think 532 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 2: we're going to vote it out of the Rules Committee 533 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 2: and put it on the Senate floor and we'll vote 534 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 2: on the Senate floor right after Thanksgiving on Kennedy's provision. 535 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 2: And I asked him, look, would you be willing to 536 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 2: accept a vote on this that's separate, that doesn't delay 537 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 2: the overall funding bill? Because if we delay it, if 538 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 2: one of these Democrats get cold feet, we could have 539 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:55,240 Speaker 2: another week, two, three, four weeks of shutdown and none 540 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 2: of us want that. And Kennedy he was angry, but 541 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 2: he said yes, he he would agree to that. I'm 542 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 2: really glad John did that. That was the right thing. 543 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 2: But he's fighting for something he really believes in. So 544 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 2: I was able to go to leadership and say, look, 545 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 2: you guys need to commit to have the vote in 546 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 2: the rules committee and the vote on the floor, and 547 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 2: leadership did make that commitment, and that was the pivotal 548 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 2: piece that got us to a vote Monday night to 549 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:21,720 Speaker 2: reopen the government. 550 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 1: Thirty days from now. What do you think the fallout's 551 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 1: going to actually be? I think people are so fast 552 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 1: to get back to normal. The holidays are coming. I 553 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 1: think that's going to be something where peopter just like, 554 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 1: all right, everything's fine, my normal chaos as long as 555 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 1: we don't have chaos and the sky's outside of the 556 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 1: normal chaos with it when it comes to Thanksgiving or 557 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 1: Christmas travel, I'm good. We're pretty selfish as a people. Now, 558 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 1: let's just be honest about it. So it's a lot 559 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 1: of it is Hey, if it doesn't affect me, is 560 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 1: it really happening? This happens now? And is there going 561 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 1: to be fallout or accountability on either side? 562 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 3: Yeah? 563 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 2: Look, people will remember what impacted themselves and their families. 564 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 2: So if your food stamps got you'll remember that that 565 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 2: will have made a real difference. If your paycheck got delayed, 566 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 2: that will impact you. I was having a conversation with 567 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 2: the Capitol Police officer yesterday, and this was a Capitol 568 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 2: Police officer who was a veteran, had been around a while, 569 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 2: and he was talking about how they were giving grief 570 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 2: to like some of the rookies who were brand new. 571 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 2: He said, there was a class straight out of the 572 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 2: academy who started like two days before the shutdown, and 573 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 2: you know, these are all really you know, young men 574 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 2: and women twenty two to twenty three years old and 575 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 2: this is like their first job and suddenly they're not 576 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 2: getting paid. And he did say that the veteran Capitol 577 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 2: Police officers were basically giving grief to the young rookies 578 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 2: and being like, oh, you're new to this game, and 579 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 2: you know, shutdowns are part of working for the federal government. 580 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 2: But you know a lot of these young guys don't 581 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 2: have much savings, so they were a little bit shell 582 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 2: shocked from it. Those folks will remember, but most Americans, 583 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,200 Speaker 2: if it didn't impact you, The biggest way that a 584 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 2: lot of Americans were impacted was flight delays and flight 585 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 2: delays and cancelations. The people who had their trip to 586 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 2: visit their mom canceled the trip to go to a 587 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,240 Speaker 2: funeral in the family, the trip to go on family vacation, 588 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 2: the trip to go on a work trip. 589 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 3: People will be annoyed at that. 590 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 2: Now, look, it's November, we'll move into Thanksgiving. I think 591 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 2: by Thanksgiving the air traffic we'll be back to normal, 592 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 2: so it won't be an additional burden. And then we'll 593 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 2: get into Christmas and the holidays, and do I think 594 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 2: by December one the shutdown is going to be front 595 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 2: and center in anyone's mind. Not really, but then we're 596 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 2: going to get to January thirtieth. And I mentioned in 597 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 2: the last podcast it was really important that we had 598 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 2: the continuing Resolution. There was a big push to get 599 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 2: it to expire on December twenty first. Yeah, that was 600 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 2: a terrible idea because often if government funding expires right 601 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 2: before Christmas. Look, obviously, every member of Congress wants to 602 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:00,959 Speaker 2: get home to be with their fans only for Christmas. 603 00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 2: That's natural. You know, most of us have kids. You 604 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 2: want to be with your kids for Christmas. That leads 605 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 2: frequently to really bad deals. There's an old phrase that 606 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:12,720 Speaker 2: jet fumes get in the air, that people are really 607 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 2: anxious to get out of town, so they'll agree to 608 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:18,600 Speaker 2: horrible deals. So the conservatives, I was pressing hard, do 609 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 2: not end it right before Christmas. We need to go 610 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:24,480 Speaker 2: into January so we don't have that pressure pushing people 611 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 2: to make a bad deal. And thankfully, and I'll give 612 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 2: John Thune credit, John Thune leaned in and said, we're 613 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 2: going till January thirtieth. That's what's in there. We will 614 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 2: have this same fight at the end of January. But 615 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 2: that at least gives us some more time and some 616 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 2: more time to deal with it. 617 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 1: One of the things that's coming out of this shutdown 618 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 1: that I do think is interesting and I did not 619 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 1: see this coming. Maybe you did, but this was not 620 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 1: on my bingo card for government shutdown conversations after the fact, 621 00:33:55,880 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 1: and that is the outrageous sub cities of Obamacare. It 622 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:06,480 Speaker 1: was called the Affordable Care Act. We now know that 623 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:12,239 Speaker 1: it's anything but affordable. Even yesterday on TV on Navarro said, well, 624 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,520 Speaker 1: you know, we know that premiums have gone up one 625 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 1: two hundred, three hundred percent, and that's why we need 626 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,719 Speaker 1: the government open, as she described it, and why we 627 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,400 Speaker 1: need to fix this. She just said the problem and 628 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:25,799 Speaker 1: I'm like, you guys told us this was going to 629 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:29,239 Speaker 1: be affordable it is not affordable. Not only that, I 630 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,480 Speaker 1: think at some point it's pretty clear it's not sustainable. 631 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:35,399 Speaker 1: And so this is like for me, so security two 632 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:40,160 Speaker 1: point zero issue, right, sustainability and solvency. This is now, 633 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:44,480 Speaker 1: I think, given a gift to fiscal responsibility that people 634 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 1: are talking about just how crazy these substies are. We're 635 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 1: talking about trillions we've spent. 636 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:49,759 Speaker 3: Yeah. 637 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:53,160 Speaker 2: Look, you go back to when I fillibustered on the 638 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:55,920 Speaker 2: Senate floor against Obamacare, and I spoke for twenty one 639 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:59,879 Speaker 2: hours straight. And you know, you may recall red red 640 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:03,040 Speaker 2: green eggs and ham, which a lot of people forget 641 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,560 Speaker 2: why I read green eggs and Ham. The reason is 642 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,719 Speaker 2: at the time, my daughters were three and five years old, 643 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 2: and whenever I was at home, I would read them 644 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:13,080 Speaker 2: bedtime stories, and so it was their bedtime. I was 645 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 2: talking for twenty one hours. It was their bedtime. So 646 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 2: we called home and told them turn on the TV 647 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 2: and I read them green eggs and Ham on TV. 648 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,480 Speaker 2: And my favorite picture you've seen it, Ben, Oh, yeah, 649 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:25,200 Speaker 2: I love that hangs in my Senate office in DC 650 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 2: is the two girls. They're both in matching pajamas, which 651 00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,440 Speaker 2: at three and five they could do at fifteen and 652 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 2: seventeen were well past the stage of matching pajamas, but 653 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:38,000 Speaker 2: that they're in matching pajamas. And Catherine, the three year old, 654 00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:40,759 Speaker 2: she has her hand on the TV and she's looking 655 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,720 Speaker 2: at it in wonderment as her daddy's reading her Doctor 656 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 2: Seuss on television. And Caroline, and you know my girls 657 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:50,200 Speaker 2: really well. Caroline is the eldest that I love her, 658 00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:53,000 Speaker 2: but she she's a cynical kid. Not not much her 659 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:57,640 Speaker 2: dad does impresses her. And in that picture she that 660 00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:01,719 Speaker 2: was very accurate, by the way, very accurate. Oh no, no, 661 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:05,040 Speaker 2: it's there are a few things better for humility than 662 00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:09,480 Speaker 2: being a parent, because your kids, really, if you're starting 663 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:11,560 Speaker 2: to get a big head, your kids are really good 664 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:15,800 Speaker 2: for bringing you down to earth. But this picture Caroline 665 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:19,799 Speaker 2: at age five, she's cracking up, laughing, and it's why 666 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,400 Speaker 2: I love this picture because there's just joy in her face. 667 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,919 Speaker 2: And when I came home after the filibuster at age five, 668 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,760 Speaker 2: she had her arms crossed and she said, okay, Dad, 669 00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:32,560 Speaker 2: that was cool, And it was like, yes, finally those trees. 670 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:33,920 Speaker 5: It took it. 671 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,520 Speaker 1: It took me talking for twenty one hours to get 672 00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:36,920 Speaker 1: it cool. 673 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:37,800 Speaker 3: Yeah. 674 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:42,600 Speaker 2: So in that filibuster, I laid out exactly what has 675 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:45,800 Speaker 2: happened that premiums are going to skyrocket. Remember Barack Obama 676 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:49,040 Speaker 2: promised that Obamacare would cut the average famili's premiums by 677 00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:53,600 Speaker 2: twenty five hundred dollars. It has massively increased the average 678 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:57,359 Speaker 2: families premiums instead. And and there's a reason for that. 679 00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:01,480 Speaker 2: What Obamacare did is drastically reduce the choices people had 680 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:06,919 Speaker 2: and forced people into more expensive plans. It basically outlawed 681 00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:14,200 Speaker 2: less expensive plans. And economics one oh one supply and demand. 682 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:18,279 Speaker 2: When you shrink supply and you also mandate demand, which 683 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,560 Speaker 2: Obamacare initially had the individual mandate that forced people to buy. 684 00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:25,600 Speaker 2: The combination of that drives prices through the roof. Now, 685 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,480 Speaker 2: we repealed the individual mandate, and I was the one 686 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,000 Speaker 2: who led the fight to do that. So we successfully 687 00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:35,759 Speaker 2: repealed the individual madnate. Under the original Obamacare, if you 688 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:39,040 Speaker 2: lacked the income to be able to afford healthcare, the 689 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:42,000 Speaker 2: consequence of that is the IRS would find you, So 690 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,319 Speaker 2: you'd have an insult to injury. You didn't have the 691 00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,120 Speaker 2: money to pay for health insurance and then the IRS 692 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:51,000 Speaker 2: came and find you. It was idiotic policy. Thankfully, we 693 00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:54,439 Speaker 2: repealed that and that was in twenty seventeen, a fight 694 00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:57,680 Speaker 2: I led in won. So that aspect of Obamacare has 695 00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:02,040 Speaker 2: gone away, but the limiting the choices has not. And 696 00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:06,840 Speaker 2: what Obamacare does, it's basically built on an invisible cross 697 00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:10,840 Speaker 2: subsidy where listen, if you're young and healthy, it's not 698 00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:14,200 Speaker 2: very expensive to ensure you, because insurance is all about 699 00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:17,919 Speaker 2: actuary risk and young healthy people. You know, some young 700 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:21,360 Speaker 2: healthy people get cancer getting a nasty car accident, but 701 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:26,120 Speaker 2: it's statistically speaking, quite unlikely, and so it's pretty cheap 702 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:30,280 Speaker 2: to ensure a young healthy person. If you're older and sicker, 703 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:33,319 Speaker 2: it's more expensive to ensure you. And what Obamacare did 704 00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:38,239 Speaker 2: is it mandated that essentially the young healthy people pay 705 00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:42,560 Speaker 2: higher premiums to subsidize the older, sicker people. Now, one 706 00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:46,000 Speaker 2: of the weird things that's backwards about this, if you 707 00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:49,560 Speaker 2: look during the course of a person's life, typically they 708 00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,960 Speaker 2: earn more and accumulate more in savings as they get older. 709 00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,880 Speaker 2: So it's literally reverse robinhood. They were robbing from the 710 00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:57,960 Speaker 2: poor to give to the rich, is what Obamacare did. 711 00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:00,560 Speaker 2: And it was based and when you look at the 712 00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:04,480 Speaker 2: architects of Obamacare they thought young people were too stupid 713 00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:08,440 Speaker 2: to know that their premiums were being doubled and tripled 714 00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:12,600 Speaker 2: and being used to subsidize older and sicker people. I 715 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:14,880 Speaker 2: think the whole thing is cynical as hell, And so 716 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:18,600 Speaker 2: what I've argued for for thirteen years is let people 717 00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:22,200 Speaker 2: buy the insurance they want, Let young, healthy people buy 718 00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:26,640 Speaker 2: low cost, inexpensive insurance. And then for people that are really, 719 00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:30,600 Speaker 2: really old or really sick, we can subsidize them directly, 720 00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:34,840 Speaker 2: but don't do it through an individual invisible cross subsidy, 721 00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:37,960 Speaker 2: where you're basically screwing people who aren't aware they're getting screwed. 722 00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:41,040 Speaker 2: All of which is to say, why are in insurance 723 00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:46,480 Speaker 2: premium skyrocketing because Obamacare? That was the predictable outcome of Obamacare. 724 00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:49,720 Speaker 2: It wasn't just predictable, it was predicted. And I stood 725 00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,000 Speaker 2: on the Senate floor and predicted it thirteen years ago. 726 00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,239 Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting if you look at the takeaway here, 727 00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:59,520 Speaker 1: it took forty days, longest shut down in government history, 728 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,600 Speaker 1: and it seems that Democrats are just saying, we'll kick 729 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:05,440 Speaker 1: the can down the road a couple months, we may 730 00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:06,799 Speaker 1: have another government shut down. 731 00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:08,960 Speaker 5: We're gonna keep holding the American people hostage. 732 00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:12,040 Speaker 1: We're not learning from any of this, and this is 733 00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:14,719 Speaker 1: a scary way that the government's being run right now. 734 00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:18,040 Speaker 1: But this is what happens when you have the extreme 735 00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:22,399 Speaker 1: left who is hell bent on hurting Americans to get 736 00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:25,040 Speaker 1: their way when they don't win an election. And that's 737 00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:27,520 Speaker 1: what this is really all about for them. We'll keep 738 00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:28,400 Speaker 1: you updated on all of it. 739 00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:31,799 Speaker 2: Rage is not Rage is not an agenda. Anger is 740 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:35,560 Speaker 2: not an agenda. Hate is not an agenda. And unfortunately 741 00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:38,839 Speaker 2: on the far left in the Democrat Party, that is 742 00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:42,160 Speaker 2: what they are for is rage, hate and anger, and 743 00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:45,600 Speaker 2: we're gonna see more chaos. We're gonna see more more 744 00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:50,000 Speaker 2: holding the American people hostage because it's a direct outgrowth 745 00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:51,600 Speaker 2: of that rage and hate and anger. 746 00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, amen to that. Don't forget. We do the show Monday, 747 00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:55,600 Speaker 5: Wednesday and Friday. 748 00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:59,279 Speaker 1: So hit that subscribe or auto download button so you 749 00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:01,360 Speaker 1: can get this show and not miss any of the episodes. 750 00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:03,480 Speaker 1: We've been talking a lot about the government shutdown. We're 751 00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,280 Speaker 1: gonna geto some other big issues as well moving forward, 752 00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:08,360 Speaker 1: that I can promise you. So make sure you download 753 00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:11,080 Speaker 1: Verdict with Ted Cruz and grab my podcast The Ben 754 00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,480 Speaker 1: Ferguson podcasts. On those in between days, I'll keep you 755 00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:15,920 Speaker 1: update on what's going on as well there, and we'll 756 00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:17,480 Speaker 1: see you back here Friday morning.