1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:02,360 Speaker 1: Who's playing third day? Why do you just putting who 2 00:00:02,360 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 1: on the third day? Second? You don't want? Who want? 3 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: Second was on? I don't know, Ronan. You know you 4 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:11,879 Speaker 1: have a power to take care of your car, getting 5 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: your car set down. Look in the apprill of corner 6 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 1: one shield where they're probably or they should be putting 7 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:17,599 Speaker 1: or they most of us put the oil chain stickers. 8 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:20,079 Speaker 1: Now what's it just done? If it was just done 9 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:32,199 Speaker 1: good ready by today, I would take your arm your 10 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 1: who's on the idea of limp mode was to get 11 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:38,560 Speaker 1: you home and I'm assuming that's what it did, right, well, 12 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: sort of it did well, not from where I was 13 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 1: with the coach thaiway with one on one and so no, 14 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 1: it's not going to get me home that way. Welcome 15 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 1: to the radio home of ron Andanian the Car Doctor, 16 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: since this is where car owners the world overturned to 17 00:00:56,560 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 1: for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. If your mechanics 18 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 1: giving you a busy signal, pick up the phone and 19 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 1: call in. The garage doors are open, but I am 20 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:14,400 Speaker 1: here to take your calls at eight five and now running. 21 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 1: I want to tell you about the test, the key 22 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:22,759 Speaker 1: drop test we UM recently started employing this to find 23 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 1: out just you know, how smart are you? You know, 24 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 1: we we know you expect us to be smart, but 25 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 1: we kind of expect you to be smart too. You know. 26 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 1: It's a two way street. We're gonna communicate at a 27 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:35,039 Speaker 1: certain level. We're gonna solve your car's problem. We're gonna 28 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 1: fix it. We're gonna ship it out the door and 29 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 1: move on to the next one at the shop. I mean, 30 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 1: that's the way it works, right, That's it's a business, 31 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 1: it's and we're just trying to fix cars. So we 32 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 1: have a simple test now. We call it the key 33 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: drop test. We usually find that most new customers like 34 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: to drop off before or after hours, so you know, 35 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 1: we don't get to see them for the first time. 36 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: It seems to be a common trend lately, so we 37 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: explain it to them. Listen, you're gonna pull the car 38 00:01:57,520 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: up to the side of the building. There's parking off street. 39 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 1: You're going to go into the white mailbox, take a 40 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: key drop envelope. It's clearly marked white mailbox. A matter 41 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 1: of fact, the white mailbox says this is not a mailbox, 42 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: this is a key drop envelope box. Of course, the 43 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 1: mailman keeps putting mail in, which is he probably couldn't 44 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:15,399 Speaker 1: even pass the key drop test, much less know where 45 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:16,639 Speaker 1: to put the mail half the time. But that's a 46 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:19,519 Speaker 1: whole another story for a whole another problem. So it's 47 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: usually if the mail, hey, the mail come today, I 48 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: don't know, go check the key drop box. That says 49 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 1: this is not a mailbox, and usually that's where the 50 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: mail is. So you know, this is what we're dealing 51 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 1: with today. So we tell you to take an envelope 52 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: out of the key drop box, put your keys in 53 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 1: the envelope, sign off at the bottom, tell us what's 54 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: wrong with the car, and put it in the brass 55 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:40,959 Speaker 1: mail slot just above the white mailbox. Seems simple, right, 56 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 1: It isn't. It really seems to be the most confusing 57 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:47,080 Speaker 1: thing I've ever asked anybody to do in my fifty 58 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 1: one years of repairing cars. I find keys in the 59 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 1: drop slot, the envelope in the white mailbox. I find 60 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 1: the keys in the car, the white envelope in the 61 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 1: mailbox signed off no instruction is just their name and 62 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: they sign I find the keys in the box first, 63 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: then the envelope gives dropped in after Sometimes I find 64 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:11,079 Speaker 1: an envelope within an envelope because they're not quite sure, 65 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 1: they want to write seven or ten different things, and 66 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 1: they run out of the room. Then I find the 67 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: long letters. You know, dropping off and picking up at 68 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 1: a repair shop is just as much a part of 69 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 1: the process as the repair and one of the things 70 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 1: and one of the reasons I do this, one of 71 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 1: the things I'm looking for is what is your communication ability? 72 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: What is your level at which you can communicate? Because 73 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:38,119 Speaker 1: if you can't understand, walk up to the white mail box, 74 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: take the envelope at fill it out, sign off at 75 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: the bottom, drop your keys, and drop the keys in 76 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 1: the breast mail slot. If you can't understand that, what's 77 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: gonna happen When I tell you your car needs four 78 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 1: wheel breaks? The left front calipers locked on the right 79 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 1: rear break is metal on metal and we're gonna end 80 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 1: up having to do a break bleeder flush and will 81 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 1: be about sixteen hundred dollars. Did you hear any of that? Well, 82 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 1: you heard the sixteen hllars is everybody always hears the number, 83 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 1: but nobody ever hears details or the minutia in between, 84 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 1: and in order repair minutia counts. It does the devil 85 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: is in the details. It's it's all about paying attention 86 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 1: to the small stuff, and that's what makes it work. 87 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: And then the problem becomes and thank god for texting. 88 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 1: We've we've been texting in the shop now for about 89 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 1: three years because we'll get the envelope that they don't 90 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: even fill out. They'll just drop the keys in and 91 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 1: he'll figure out whose keys these are until I get 92 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 1: four Toyota cameras that day and I've got four you know, 93 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 1: remote start and I have to walk outside with all 94 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:32,160 Speaker 1: these remotes and start tapping them to go this one 95 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 1: goes with this one, this one goes with that one, 96 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 1: that one goes with this one. And then there's no instructions. 97 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 1: What do you want me to do to your car? 98 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 1: And then it's always interesting, right, we had Fred dropped 99 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 1: off Fred. We've known Fred. I've known Fred for a 100 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 1: long time. He's at the local Delhi here in town. 101 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 1: We sit and we we have coffee once in a 102 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: while on a Friday morning before we go to work, 103 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 1: and and I gave Fred the key drop test. So 104 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:59,799 Speaker 1: Fred decided that instead of using an envelope or telling 105 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 1: me it was wrong with the car, because he had 106 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 1: come in to tell me he was going to drop 107 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 1: off the car for a transmission service and he had 108 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: an oil league. He decided to just make his own 109 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 1: tag at home that said Fred on it, drop it 110 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: in the key drop slot, and walked away. I came 111 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:14,479 Speaker 1: in the next morning as a key tag that says Fred. 112 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: Now what happened if I had two freads with two keys? 113 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 1: But regardless, so I, you know, filled out the form, 114 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 1: I filled out the the envelope or the repair order, 115 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:26,839 Speaker 1: and and you know, get it going in the rack. 116 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 1: But I always wanted I always want that last little instruction, 117 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:32,279 Speaker 1: so you know, you always get that text for me, 118 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 1: good morning today on the key that we are going 119 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 1: to do. And I said oil change and look for 120 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:41,840 Speaker 1: an oil league. And that's when he said, oh yeah, 121 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 1: And by the way, the oil light has been coming 122 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 1: on off and on at times at Idol for a 123 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 1: little while. Well that's sort of important, isn't it, Like 124 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 1: when are you gonna tell me that? And that's and 125 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 1: that's part of why, that's the other part of why 126 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:55,279 Speaker 1: I do the key drop test. I'm trying to get 127 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 1: you to think, all right, I'm trying to get you 128 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 1: some when you present things to the mechanic. He's got 129 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 1: the list. It's not after the fact. Could you imagine 130 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 1: if I put the if I fixed the oil leak, 131 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 1: which I did, and oh, by the way, now the 132 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 1: oil pressure lights coming on? Is it something we did? 133 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:14,599 Speaker 1: Is it something related to the league? Is it something? 134 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:17,720 Speaker 1: What's the what's the problem. It's having all the information 135 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:21,160 Speaker 1: in front of you presents a clear coast, clear, a 136 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:25,599 Speaker 1: clear direction to success. And that's what that's what order 137 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 1: repairs about. Right. We're just trying to be successful. Yeah, 138 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 1: we're trying to make money because that's what we do. 139 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 1: That's how we stay in business to come back and 140 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:33,279 Speaker 1: help you the next time. But we're just trying to 141 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 1: get a clear direction and a clear place to go. 142 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:38,600 Speaker 1: It turns out we fixed Fred's oil leak because I 143 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:40,599 Speaker 1: attacked it that way. I said, let's fix the oil 144 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:42,280 Speaker 1: leak first, friend, let me look at that first. I'm 145 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 1: not so worried about the trans service. You know, I 146 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 1: can't solve the oil pressure light. Depending upon what what 147 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 1: what the oil leak turns into. It could be related, 148 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 1: it could have nothing to do with it. But I've 149 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:52,359 Speaker 1: got to solve that first. So I put it up 150 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:54,600 Speaker 1: in the air. We washed it down and we didn't 151 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 1: have to do much. It wasn't a hard leak to 152 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:59,720 Speaker 1: find the oil pressure. I'm sorry. The oil filter housing 153 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 1: had a pressure leak. It was just p and oil everywhere, 154 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:05,600 Speaker 1: and it was very obvious that it was leaking right 155 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 1: out of the housing. Fred, you need an oil pressure housing, 156 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 1: the filter housing rather, I'm sorry, Um, you need the 157 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: entire housing. On the left, saw passenger side of the 158 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 1: engine held on four bolts. Kya had one in stock, 159 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 1: which told me, yeah, this is common. It's a nice 160 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 1: big piece of plastic mounted to the aluminum engine. But 161 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 1: I said, I don't know that that's gonna fix your 162 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 1: oil pressure issue. So he said, you know what, let's 163 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 1: start here. I said, we gotta start somewhere so we 164 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: you know, and I never saw the oil pressure, Like, 165 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 1: come on, I gotta tell you that that's the that 166 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 1: was the crazy part, right, So we you know, did 167 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 1: the oil filter housing and started it up and let 168 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 1: it run a good long time, which I couldn't do 169 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 1: before because it was leaking oil everywhere. It was leaving 170 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: trails and puddles. And the oil leak was fixed. No 171 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: more trails, no more puddles, no more leak, and I 172 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: waited and I waited, and twenty minutes went by, and 173 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 1: finally it got hot enough. I went back out. I 174 00:07:57,800 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 1: was walking past it, going to get another car, and 175 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 1: it happened to look in, and sure enough, the oil 176 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 1: light was on. And then it went out, and then 177 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 1: it went on, and I redded it up a little 178 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 1: bit when it was on, and it went right out, 179 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 1: and then it came on again while I was while 180 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 1: I was, you know, off idle, and then it went out. Okay, fred, 181 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 1: I got good news. I got bad news. I fixed 182 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 1: your oil leak. But you have an oil pressure problem, 183 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 1: or you have an indicator problem, I said, let me 184 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 1: do a little more research. So Kia, in their infinite wisdom, 185 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 1: because where else would you put it, decided to put 186 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 1: the oil pressure center on this particular V six engine 187 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 1: underneath the intake manifold. Why would you make it accessible? 188 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:40,679 Speaker 1: So in order to do any kind of testing for 189 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 1: oil pressure, you have to remove the intake plenum to 190 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 1: get to the sending unit, to take that out to 191 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 1: put your gauge into read mechanical pressure. I'm not quite 192 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 1: sure what they were thinking. I didn't find any of 193 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 1: their self taps anywhere on the engine. So I applied 194 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 1: a little logic. Let's put a little logic to this. 195 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: You know, logic and smart sometimes wins out over course 196 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 1: of action. This is a variable valve timing engine. For 197 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 1: those of you who don't know what that means v 198 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 1: v T, right, the auto industry is full of abbreviations 199 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 1: and acronyms. Vv T stands for a variable valve timing 200 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:16,320 Speaker 1: And what that means is they are going to change 201 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 1: the position of internal engine parts at the right moment 202 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: to make things happen in a in a slightly advanced 203 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 1: sequence or a retarded sequence. And what they're trying to 204 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 1: do is get maximum performance, maximum mileage, and you know, 205 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: best performance out of the vehicle they can. How do 206 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:41,319 Speaker 1: they do that? Well, they they open up a solenoid, 207 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 1: which is an electrical device that opens up a passageway, 208 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 1: and they allow oil pressure to push the cam this 209 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 1: way or that way. So if we had low oil pressure, 210 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 1: wouldn't it be logical, I said to myself, Because they're 211 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:58,079 Speaker 1: monitoring oil pressure, they're monitoring valve timing. If they tell 212 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 1: the cam to advance two degrees five to there's ten 213 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 1: degrees whatever, and they don't see that advancement. It's gonna 214 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 1: set a fault code. You're gonna see check engine lights 215 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 1: all over the place. It all like light up like 216 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 1: times square on New Year's While I went and scanned it. 217 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 1: No fault codes, nothing pending, nothing, nothing hard on. And 218 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:15,680 Speaker 1: I knew that there was no check engine light on, 219 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 1: no fault code for a faulty oil pressure switch. Just 220 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 1: every once in a while i'd see the light. The 221 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 1: engine tone didn't change either. There was no change. There 222 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 1: was no clickity clack, there was no lifted noise. There 223 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 1: was nothing to indicate we had a problem. As a 224 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 1: matter of fact, as Fred put it, he's gonna put 225 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 1: his piece of electrical tape over because that's his solution 226 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 1: for the hundred thousand mile four year old Kia and 227 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 1: ignore the light for now, and he's gonna see what 228 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 1: happens because it's been going on for a while. But 229 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 1: I told him, I said, I don't think you have 230 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 1: a problem, Fred, because if you did, you'd see a 231 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 1: v V T issue and you don't have that. So 232 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:50,320 Speaker 1: sometimes logic wins out. Sometimes being the smartest bear in 233 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 1: the cave wins out, and sometimes just know oning what's 234 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 1: going on makes you went out, and that's what order 235 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 1: repairs all about. So just be aware you come by 236 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 1: the shop, you're gonna get the key drop test. I 237 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 1: want to see how smart you are. And uh, we'll 238 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: see if you can pass eight five five five zero 239 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 1: zero running any of the car to document your service. 240 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 1: I'll be back right after this. Don't go away down 241 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 1: when you get keep Ron's number hand eight five five 242 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 1: five six zero nine nine zero zero for when you 243 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 1: really need advice on your car. Here's Rob. Hey, let's 244 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 1: get over and talk to Let's go talk to Kevin 245 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 1: in Florida. Five christ there, three day Kevin. Welcome to 246 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 1: the car doctor, sir, How can I help Hill? Right? 247 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: Thanks taking my call. You're welcome. What's going on? Well, 248 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 1: I'm down here in Florida, was just getting ready to 249 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 1: head back to Massachusetts. And I started my card the 250 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 1: other day and they won't shift out a load gear 251 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 1: and it won't leave over three thousand pms. And I 252 00:11:57,160 --> 00:11:58,959 Speaker 1: put the key there and it says it's gonna you 253 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 1: fourteen seven team, which is I guess an A B. 254 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 1: S Center problem? Right? So are you a resident of 255 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:11,599 Speaker 1: Florida or Massachusetts? I'm a resident of Massachusetts sold for 256 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:14,680 Speaker 1: the winter for a couple more months. So I say, 257 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 1: I was I was supposed to leave. I was supposed 258 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 1: to leave back from Massachusetts yesterday. So so the car 259 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 1: spend the car spends most of its time in Massachusetts, right, Okay, 260 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 1: So you fourteen seventeen, and I have to point out 261 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: the this generation Chrysler three hundred and three hundred seas 262 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 1: did some very unique things. Chrysler was really exploring there 263 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 1: they were you know, how can I say that they 264 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 1: were exploring their boundaries of logic and common sense? Um, 265 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:45,440 Speaker 1: this has an This has an a B S wheel 266 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 1: speed sensor set up in the back, unlike anything else 267 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 1: they had to date. It's a it should be a 268 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 1: two wire censor, all right, and it is not. It 269 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 1: is not a Hall effect, it is not a digital 270 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 1: style signal. It's a magnetic impulse censor. UM. It's it's 271 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 1: kind of hard to explain without getting over everybody's head. 272 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:05,559 Speaker 1: And I'd have to read the article again because I 273 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 1: remember fixing a bunch of these back in the day. 274 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 1: They were kind of nasty to deal with. UM. I 275 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 1: can just tell you that the most common thing to 276 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 1: look for is and that's why I ask where you lived. 277 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 1: Um is, I'd be willing to bet that the tone 278 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:22,079 Speaker 1: ring on the axle is rusted. And if the if 279 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 1: the tone ring is rusted and the least little amount 280 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 1: of corrosion gets on there, it deflects and sometimes creates 281 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:33,199 Speaker 1: a disruption in the magnetic force. Think of a think 282 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 1: of a three sixty degree circle. Obviously that's what a 283 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 1: circle has. And you know the magnet cracks and now 284 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:42,199 Speaker 1: it gets to that that that point where the magnetic 285 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 1: band isn't perfect, it's it's it's skips and it does 286 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:49,680 Speaker 1: that in multiple places. Now all of a sudden, it 287 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 1: doesn't know how fast the left rear wheel is going, 288 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 1: the rear wheel speed. Sensors have input an authority over 289 00:13:56,600 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 1: transmission operation. There's a genius idea. That's that's the way 290 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 1: I do it, because you know, it's not it's not 291 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 1: like the sensors or anything back there is ever gonna fail. 292 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 1: Um you know, yeah, it's you know why why why 293 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to complicate this now you can you 294 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 1: know some of the basics that you can go after 295 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 1: is all right, you know, it's it's something that you 296 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 1: would need a lab scope to test. But you can 297 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 1: go and look for things like, UM, you know, you 298 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 1: want to check signal out of the left rear sensor 299 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 1: if you have a scan tool, just to see does 300 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 1: it see it. It's probably not going to UM, but 301 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 1: at least you'll see a signal out of the right rear. 302 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 1: And then there's a dark green gray wire at that 303 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 1: wheel speed sensor that should have battery voltage on it. 304 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 1: And and here's the unique part. That's the signal wire. 305 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 1: But the voltage only changes about three tents of a 306 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 1: volt as you turn the wheel slowly. So that's why 307 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 1: I say it's it's it's not a conventional test. It's 308 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: not like we're doing a C or digital. It's it's 309 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 1: a it's a magnetic inductive pickup sensor. It's it's really 310 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 1: I don't know what they were thinking, and they stopped 311 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 1: using them for a couple of years. I can't imagine why. UM, 312 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 1: you know, once again the public, any pig I had 313 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 1: to kind oft to the shop, they're gonna put on 314 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 1: a scan to on Monday. I just didn't know if 315 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 1: the scan to it could tell him if it was 316 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 1: maybe a ground wire, or if it's a center itself, 317 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 1: or it's a computer failing well, and it's it's likely 318 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 1: not a computer. I'm not saying it it can't be, 319 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 1: but it's likely not a computer. I mean you've got 320 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 1: to go through the steps all right. Um, you know 321 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 1: it's dark dark green gray has to have battery voltage 322 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 1: on at the dark green yellow wire is the ground 323 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 1: leg if you've got ground in battery vault. Did you 324 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 1: know the circuit coming down is good? So then you're 325 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 1: down to you know, your suspect of the sensor or 326 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 1: the tone ring, which the tone ring is part of 327 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 1: the axle. Now the one the one thing you could 328 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 1: do is there's a connector back there, connector one oh five. 329 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 1: I remember this well. Connector one oh five is the 330 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 1: junction in the middle of the car where the two 331 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 1: wires from each side meat before they go forward. You 332 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 1: could you could find that connector and get a wiring 333 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 1: diagram and go these two it is, these two it 334 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 1: is and flip them. Make the left front report to 335 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 1: the make the left rear report to the you know, 336 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 1: in place of the left ear, swap the right right 337 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 1: and the right rear for the left ear, and now 338 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 1: put the car together. Clear the codes and what Fauld 339 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 1: code do you get do you get a fault code 340 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 1: for a right rear? If you get a fuld code 341 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 1: for a right rear, it's the left rear sensor reporting. 342 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 1: Now you know it's either the censor or the tone 343 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 1: ring right, you know what is the right rear? Um? 344 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 1: I don't remember that off the top of my head. Okay, 345 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 1: all right, but I think it's I think it's fourteen fifteen, 346 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 1: to tell you the truth. Um. The reason are the 347 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 1: reason I remember the left is we saw more less 348 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 1: than right and I never understood that, you know, we 349 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 1: never we never really saw too many right rear sensors. 350 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 1: Fill that ringing there, that's something you could clean up. 351 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 1: You might be able to. You're gonna end up buying 352 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 1: an axle if if if the axle is rusty, you're 353 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:00,080 Speaker 1: gonna end up buying an axle in the s s 354 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 1: will be part of it. Make sure they'd buy a 355 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:05,399 Speaker 1: good quality axle. And you might end up having to 356 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 1: go back to Chrysler if it's still available for it, 357 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 1: which will be interesting. If it's not, you know, it's 358 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 1: the cars fifteen years old now, so, but so I 359 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:15,959 Speaker 1: might be staying in Florida a few more days and 360 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 1: not the worst thing in the world. So, um, well, 361 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 1: there's too many people down here for me. Oh is it? Well, 362 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 1: pretty pretty soon they'll be leaving, right, the season is 363 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 1: gonna be over right, Yeah, but I bet you it's 364 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:29,920 Speaker 1: gonna be an axle. I really do, coming from Massachusetts 365 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 1: and knowing the salt and corrosion that's up there. So 366 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 1: um but you know that trick about swapping wires will 367 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 1: tell you. That'll that'll tell you which way you want 368 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 1: to go and in what direction. At least you'll know 369 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 1: that the circuit test good. Basically why the colmis because 370 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:45,399 Speaker 1: they're gonna scan it Monday and they didn't know. If 371 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 1: you know, I can tell them, hey, I just scan 372 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 1: tool use this boat and see it, see it doing this. 373 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 1: I know I can get the membormade. Well listen, I'll 374 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 1: tell you what you could. What you could do is 375 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:54,360 Speaker 1: if it helps them. And I'm not saying I want 376 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 1: to oversee anybody else's operation, they can. You know, just 377 00:17:57,720 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 1: this show is going to become the broadcast becomes a 378 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:02,359 Speaker 1: podcast in about two hours, So you can just Google 379 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 1: search ron and Anian podcast and you're in the first 380 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 1: hour down around the bottom. They could listen to this 381 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 1: if they want and hear the explanation, and uh, you know, 382 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 1: if they have any questions, you know where to find me. 383 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 1: I'm glad to answer any emails. Ron at Car Doctor 384 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:15,879 Speaker 1: Show dot com. Good luck and keep me posted. I'm Roninian. 385 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 1: I'll be back right after this. Welcome back run any 386 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:46,919 Speaker 1: of the Car Doctor at eight five zero zero And geez, 387 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 1: let's go and talk to Bob and to Nell in 388 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:50,400 Speaker 1: New Jersey. We don't talked to Bob in a long 389 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 1: long time. Robert, how are you today? Hey, I'm going 390 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 1: to congratulate you on hundred uh episodes you've been on 391 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 1: the Oh that's yeah, Bob, I gotta tell you, it's 392 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:03,640 Speaker 1: been a while since we talked. That was last year 393 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:05,399 Speaker 1: where you've been brother. But yeah, we appreciate that. We 394 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:11,159 Speaker 1: appreciate the compliment. We really do. Um alright, call I 395 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 1: was distractions that anyway. Congratulations many hours. Yeah, my body knows, um, 396 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:24,679 Speaker 1: trust me, my body knows. It's it's really you know, 397 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:27,920 Speaker 1: it's really hard to believe that, you know, it's I 398 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 1: think this year we didn't even acknowledge it too much. 399 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 1: But I think we're in our thirties. Second year. That 400 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 1: sounds about right. I think this is your thirty two 401 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 1: of broadcasting, so we must be doing something right there. 402 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:40,159 Speaker 1: They haven't. They haven't run us out of town on 403 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 1: a rail yet. So two years yeah, I know, I remember. Yeah, 404 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:51,400 Speaker 1: So what's going on? What can I do for you? Yeah? 405 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 1: The headlights on the eighth three or getting cloudy? You know, 406 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:58,400 Speaker 1: the plastic and everything, and is there any products out 407 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:01,879 Speaker 1: there that really work when we darn we use and 408 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 1: we've tried a bunch of different things in the shop. 409 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 1: We use the three M thirty nine double O eight kid, 410 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:09,440 Speaker 1: I think it's double eight or triple O eight. And 411 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:11,680 Speaker 1: the thing we like about it is it's it's low cost. 412 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 1: They give you the material, they give you the polishing 413 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 1: and the and and the cleaning pads. We can use 414 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: it with a power tool. We have a cordless buffer. 415 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:22,439 Speaker 1: You need a little handheld cordless buffer because it just 416 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 1: becomes a lot of standing. It'll take us anywhere from 417 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:27,879 Speaker 1: it'll take us anywhere from an hour and fifteen to 418 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:29,679 Speaker 1: an hour and a half to really do a settle 419 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 1: lights right. Um. You know, by the time you tape 420 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:34,119 Speaker 1: off the corner so you don't hit the paint, and 421 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 1: you know, then clean and polish and it's it's it's 422 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 1: a process like sanding anything else. You're just you know, 423 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 1: it just takes time to um work your way through 424 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 1: from the different grits all the way up to the 425 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:45,919 Speaker 1: finishing compound. And then the most important thing when you're 426 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 1: done is to wax it. And yeah, I mean it's 427 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 1: we really like the three M stuff. It works well. 428 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 1: We've tried a bunch of different things and um just 429 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 1: takes a little elbow grease and patience on a warm 430 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:58,159 Speaker 1: Saturday afternoon, sitting on a milk crate, listening to the 431 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 1: car doctor and your driveway. Uh, you know that'll do it. So, Uh, 432 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:07,679 Speaker 1: it isn't an inspection it now it's no longer an 433 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:10,440 Speaker 1: inspection item. You see a New Jersey. New Jersey says 434 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:12,639 Speaker 1: we're a safe state and we don't need to inspect 435 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 1: anything related to safety. UM. Glass lights, um wipers, front 436 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 1: end tires breaks. The only thing New Jersey cares about 437 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:26,399 Speaker 1: is the check engine light on and check engine light on. 438 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 1: That's kind of it. Um. They want to make sure 439 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 1: the odometer is working. Uh, you know, the emissions is 440 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 1: the emissions equipment in place, and after that it's up 441 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:35,920 Speaker 1: to the roadside inspectors to get it. And I say 442 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 1: that kind of as you can tell them a little jaundice, 443 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 1: because I think the whole thing is ridiculous. I think 444 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 1: it should be about safety, but you know it's it's 445 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 1: you know, I look around at the cars on the road, Bob, 446 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 1: and I just I cringe because I'm thinking, you know, 447 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 1: I look at some of these cars and parking lots 448 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:56,159 Speaker 1: with bald tires and warrant edges, and you know, cyclops, 449 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 1: cars coming down the road missing a headlight. I've had 450 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:02,159 Speaker 1: this converse sation with motor vehicle in New Jersey. I 451 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 1: can you know you could bring me a car with 452 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 1: no windshield, true story, You could bring me a car 453 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 1: with no windshield and it would pass inspection in New Jersey. 454 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 1: It wouldn't be legal. You can get it. You can 455 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 1: get a ticket, but you'll get a sticker. And I've 456 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 1: had motor vehicle Tom find a place to put the 457 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 1: sticker and get the car out the door. Okay, Hey yeah, um, yeah, 458 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:28,120 Speaker 1: makes you wonder. So how's the volkswagons? No more volkswagons? 459 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:31,880 Speaker 1: Are you an auty man now or no more volkswagons? Yeah? 460 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:34,879 Speaker 1: I still got the sixty five beetle and the nineties 461 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 1: very convertible and uh going just find those two cars. 462 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:43,399 Speaker 1: Don't you need to be inspection or anything, but at 463 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 1: least you know, I keep them safe with tires and 464 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 1: brakes and do what you're supposed to do. You would, 465 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 1: you would do the due diligence role. That's all you 466 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 1: can do. But you would do the due diligence you're 467 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 1: you know you have you have well you have to 468 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 1: because you understand what can go wrong with a car. 469 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 1: When you know when a tire fails and speed, Uh 470 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:04,440 Speaker 1: you know it's it's people. There's a lot of disregard 471 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 1: that we're off topic. Listen, I'll tell you the story 472 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 1: real quick. A kid came down from the high school yesterday. Um, 473 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:11,680 Speaker 1: he had to be doing if he was doing sixty 474 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 1: he was doing sixty five on the side street. Four 475 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:18,239 Speaker 1: kids in a Honda Accord um flying by where all 476 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 1: the other kids are walking. And I'm thinking, this kid 477 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 1: has no appreciation for what a vehicle can do. Uh, 478 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:26,160 Speaker 1: you know, God, God forbid he loses a tire, God 479 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 1: forbid somebody runs out in the street. Um, you know 480 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 1: it's you got to understand that's a two ton missile 481 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,400 Speaker 1: going down the road, and it's it's got a mind 482 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:37,639 Speaker 1: of its own. So but they spend more money for 483 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 1: the sound systems and there they want to bounce corders 484 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:45,879 Speaker 1: off the roof inside of it. That's that's how they 485 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 1: can claim they're definitely tell him to do something. What 486 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 1: you want me to do? What? So, Robert, I gotta go. Listen. 487 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 1: You'll be well, and you know we'll see you soon. 488 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 1: You too, be good, brother, You're very welcome. Let's get 489 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:02,400 Speaker 1: on over. Oh, let's go to Richard in Tennessee. Intermittent, 490 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:04,159 Speaker 1: Miss Richard. Welcome to the car doctor, sir, how can 491 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:08,120 Speaker 1: I help there? Yes, sir, how can I help? I got? 492 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 1: I got a nine nine Ford F one pickup truck. 493 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:17,239 Speaker 1: It's got the four six engine in a V eight 494 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 1: and intimately when an idland it's missing. A couple of 495 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 1: times it even felt like maybe it was going to die, 496 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 1: but but it did never did Diet know once you 497 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 1: you know, stopping the red lighting. But the intermiss not 498 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 1: too often really hasn't turned it has not turned on 499 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 1: a check engine light yet. I assume well, right, the 500 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 1: check engine light, yes, has been on for two months? Okay, 501 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 1: and i've had. I haven't taken it to a legitimate 502 00:24:56,080 --> 00:25:00,639 Speaker 1: place yet. It ran fine, what are the what are 503 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:04,920 Speaker 1: the illegitimate places? Told you? Uh, they said, let's talking 504 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 1: about injectors. Something with the injectors. No, no, I'm you know, yeah, 505 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 1: the Uh, well, I got a son that that does 506 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 1: some mechanic work. He's got one of the orre. He 507 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 1: called the machine to put hook on there. And then 508 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,440 Speaker 1: I went to auto zone and they both told me 509 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:25,200 Speaker 1: that the code is showing something with the injectors. So 510 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 1: I did. I did run some different injectors, you know, 511 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:34,119 Speaker 1: with the gas seat foam whatever ever tanked. I've been 512 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 1: putting something in there. But that uh. But then like 513 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:41,159 Speaker 1: it's been about a month ago. Uh. That that the intermittent, 514 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 1: and I just course, I'm just curious at what point 515 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 1: it is just just gonna let me set that's what that's 516 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 1: what I'm thinking. So let's let's let's let's talk about 517 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:51,920 Speaker 1: this a minute, all right, Richard. Let's I'll tell you what. 518 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,199 Speaker 1: Let's pull over, take a pause, sit tight, and when 519 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 1: we come back, we'll finish up. Don't go anywhere, because 520 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 1: I've got some answers for you, and I've got a procedure. 521 00:25:57,880 --> 00:25:59,640 Speaker 1: I want you to follow. I'm running any in the car, doctor, 522 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 1: I'll be bad right after this. Welcome back or on 523 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 1: any of the car doctor here five five zero, Richard, 524 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:20,879 Speaker 1: you're still there in Tennessee. So let's let's talk a 525 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,679 Speaker 1: little bit about an engine that misses. All right, what 526 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 1: you do? What you do for a living in life? 527 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 1: Rich I was an all right. Cool. So you've been 528 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 1: around it long enough. You you know the lingo, you 529 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 1: know the deal. So if if you got up from 530 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 1: where you're sitting and walked to the door and walked 531 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 1: at a normal pace, you were running smoothly, right, Okay, 532 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,360 Speaker 1: if you stumbled along the way, not that I want 533 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 1: to see. Do that you you you skipped, You stumbled, 534 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 1: You didn't run smoothly. You missed right, just like an engine. Okay, 535 00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:00,679 Speaker 1: I don't care if it's your Ford pick up, you're lawnmower, 536 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 1: your snowmobile, your motorcycle, whatever, it's the you know, an 537 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 1: engine is an engine. It misses for one of three 538 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:17,400 Speaker 1: common reasons. It's either ignition related, fuel related, or something mechanical. Agreed, Okay, 539 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 1: the fact that this comes and goes and it's intermittent, 540 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 1: it's not likely mechanical. There are not too many scenarios 541 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 1: of a mechanical failure. I've seen some, but it's not common. 542 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 1: We're trying to talk about common things here, all right. 543 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 1: You know some of the some of the uncommon mechanical 544 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 1: failures is you're the lucky guy that gets the weird 545 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 1: intake valve spring that winds up and winds down. It's 546 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:43,640 Speaker 1: broken and it splits and allows the valve to hang 547 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:45,439 Speaker 1: open a little bit and then it self seals, or 548 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,160 Speaker 1: the valve seats fallen out of the head. Weird mechanical 549 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:51,680 Speaker 1: things that could happen, but not common. So when we're 550 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,439 Speaker 1: dealing with an intermittent, we generally take mechanical off the 551 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,359 Speaker 1: table for the moment. So we're gonna talk about fuel 552 00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:02,199 Speaker 1: and ignition, all right. Fuel is you know, you go 553 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,160 Speaker 1: out to mow the lawn, you pull the you pull 554 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 1: the start, you turn on the choke, and you leave 555 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 1: the choke on and after a while it starts to 556 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 1: do what. It starts to run rough and buck and 557 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 1: chug and miss and black smoke. And you know it's 558 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,640 Speaker 1: a fuel mixture problem that's making the engine run rough, 559 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 1: that's making it skip because it's got an incorrect amount 560 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 1: of fuel of gasoline to oxygen correct correct, So you know, 561 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 1: if this was a fuel related fault, the other thing 562 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,120 Speaker 1: you would be explaining to me is ron I'm using 563 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 1: an inordinate amount of gasoline. Maybe you're seeing black smoke 564 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 1: out the tailpipe. Maybe not. Catalytic converters do a great 565 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 1: job of cleaning things up today, but I usually get 566 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 1: a fuel smell complaint, a hard start complaint, a crank complaints, 567 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 1: something else comes with it. So I'm gonna make the 568 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 1: assumption this is ignition. Assumption is a dangerous word, but 569 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 1: that's usually where the Ford vs take us. All right, 570 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 1: I want you to go back to auto zone and 571 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 1: ask them specifically. Don't want you to ask them what's 572 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 1: wrong with it, but I want you to go back 573 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 1: to auto zone, ask them to rescan it, and what 574 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 1: fault code do they get? All right? I don't, I don't. 575 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 1: I don't want them to diagnose it. I just want 576 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 1: information from them, and they're great at that. They'll give 577 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 1: you a great information, all right. I think that I 578 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:20,480 Speaker 1: think they're gonna come back and tell you it's either 579 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 1: a P zero three hundred, which is a random multiple misfire. 580 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 1: Notice I did not say ignition. I just said random 581 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 1: multiple misfire. You're walking to the door and you misstep 582 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 1: three or four times, random multiple misfire. Or maybe you'll 583 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 1: get lucky and it's gonna tell you P zero three 584 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 1: oh two, which tells us that's a misfire on cylinder 585 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 1: number two. All right, at least if we have a 586 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 1: cylinder that we can idea that the computer is picking 587 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 1: up and flagging. Now we have a direction. Now we 588 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 1: have a cylinder to attack. And then the simple things 589 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 1: we're gonna do. Let's say it's let's say it is 590 00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 1: number two cylinder. All right, we're gonna take We're gonna 591 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 1: take the easiest way to diagnosis is take the ignition 592 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 1: coil out of number two and swap it with Swap 593 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 1: it with number four. Pick an easy one, right, take 594 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 1: the spark, take the spark plug out of number two 595 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 1: and swap it with number one. Okay, now you've got 596 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 1: the Now you've got the coil for number two in 597 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 1: a different cylinder and the plug for number two in 598 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 1: a different cylinder. Correct, go for a rod. Clear the 599 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 1: codes and go for a rod. What code comes back? 600 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 1: If a misfire is being reported on cylinder four. What's 601 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 1: wrong with the truck? Bad coil? Right, we put the 602 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 1: coil in number four. We put the plug in number one. 603 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 1: If it comes back with a misfire on one, we 604 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 1: got a bad plug. If it comes back with a 605 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 1: misfire on number two, what's the problem. Probably probably in it, well, 606 00:30:56,440 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 1: probably an injector or something mechanical. But what I but 607 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 1: what I just described to you is probably every bit 608 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 1: of forty five minutes to an hour's worth of work. 609 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 1: And it just gives us a good, solid diagnosis. We're 610 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 1: not jumping around, we're not guessing, we're not playing hop scotch. Okay. 611 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 1: The other thing, the other thing I want you to 612 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,720 Speaker 1: try and do. And I'm not sure if AutoZone will 613 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 1: do this, if they'll just pull codes or they'll look 614 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 1: at that, but I would like somebody to look at 615 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:33,239 Speaker 1: fuel trim. All right, you know what's your heart rate 616 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 1: and blood pressure? Rich? You know what's supposed to be 617 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 1: eight you were in the body shop. Business is probably 618 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 1: a little higher, God bless you. So a little bit 619 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 1: of stress, a little bit of stress in that business, right, yeah, 620 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 1: you know, but yeah, you know, but you know, we 621 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 1: want to look at We want to look at heart 622 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 1: rate and blood pressure. I want to know what fuel 623 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:56,640 Speaker 1: trim is. Fuel trim is the computer's interpretation of the 624 00:31:56,720 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 1: air fuel mixture balanced or not all right, zero zero 625 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 1: percent short term, zero percent long time. It won't be that, 626 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 1: but that's what we're shooting for. That's a perfect air 627 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 1: fuel mixture history and current. But you know there's there's 628 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 1: tolerances we want to see. You know, we're gonna see 629 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 1: anywhere's up to short term, anywhere's up to long term. 630 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 1: But if it comes back with a thirty long term 631 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:22,200 Speaker 1: fuel trim, I'm gonna tell you this stumble is probably 632 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 1: more vacuum leak related. And then I'm gonna tell you 633 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 1: to go look at the PCV valve tubing over on 634 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 1: the passenger side rear corner of the engine where it 635 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 1: comes off the planum and feeds the valve cover for 636 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,960 Speaker 1: PCV e venilation and it makes a heck of a 637 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 1: leak that you'll never find. You will if you use 638 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 1: a smoke machine. All right, But but before I take 639 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 1: you down that path and send you over to Redline 640 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,720 Speaker 1: Diagnostics dot com and we start talking about what a 641 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 1: smoke machine can do. Um, let's let's go back to 642 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,480 Speaker 1: auto zone and let's get some fault codes from them 643 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:54,720 Speaker 1: first and then work our way forward. This is not 644 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 1: a hard problem to fix, all right, and we'll take 645 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 1: it from there. Give me a call when you need more. Alright, alright, sir, 646 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:07,320 Speaker 1: good luck to you. You're very well. You're very welcome. 647 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 1: God bless you be well. Eight five zero The car 648 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:24,720 Speaker 1: doctors coming back right after this. Welcome back. We're on 649 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,320 Speaker 1: a any in the car doctor here Email Jim up 650 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 1: and on Sable Forks in New York ron seventy one 651 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 1: thousand miles about three day up at hilly road in 652 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 1: back two SONA use a little oil every week. I've 653 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 1: attributed to hilly roads and extreme tempts. No attributed to 654 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 1: the fact that it's a Hundai. Have you super tickful 655 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:42,560 Speaker 1: synthetic on all my vehicles for about ten years. That's good. 656 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 1: Changed the oil and filter every four that's great, and 657 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 1: I've never had a problem was running. What your take 658 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 1: on it was? Um, I think you're headed towards potential 659 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 1: engine issues, Jim, Um, common knowledge. There's a bunch of 660 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:54,720 Speaker 1: bulletins out on hun days. As a matter of fact, 661 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 1: you don't mention which engine this is I'm going to 662 00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,360 Speaker 1: assume dangerous word is the two leader. They've got some 663 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 1: engine and ex ended warranty campaigns going on, so just 664 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:04,600 Speaker 1: be aware that you may start to use more and 665 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,040 Speaker 1: more oil. Recently, the check engine light came on. My 666 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:08,720 Speaker 1: wife took it to the local dealer. I don't remember 667 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 1: what the scan said, but the service invoice said large 668 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:12,400 Speaker 1: vacuum leak go always checked by the tech. But he 669 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:13,920 Speaker 1: said he couldn't do the smoke test because there was 670 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,759 Speaker 1: too much gas in the car. And that's wrong. So 671 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:18,480 Speaker 1: I've never seen a condition that we prevent me from 672 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 1: doing a smoke test on a on a vehicle with 673 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:23,160 Speaker 1: too much gas in the car. I don't understand that. Um, 674 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 1: they have to explain that they reset the light because 675 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:27,560 Speaker 1: it ran fine otherwise and if the light came back on, 676 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:29,520 Speaker 1: and it did, she thought you'd have to make another appointment, 677 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:31,080 Speaker 1: which she has done. So the results are still up 678 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,160 Speaker 1: in the air. Yeah, what fault code is it? What 679 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:35,719 Speaker 1: my thoughts are? What fault code is it for five 680 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 1: or fifty five large league? I look at the gas cap, 681 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,239 Speaker 1: was it put on right? But it's not because it's repetitive, 682 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 1: So there's something else going on. Here. You know it's 683 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:44,880 Speaker 1: evapp system. I don't care what the manufacturer is. They 684 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:46,759 Speaker 1: have a front door, back door, they've got a purge valve, 685 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 1: they've got they've got a vent valve. Alright, Hyundays have 686 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:53,200 Speaker 1: a lot of issues with their canister closed valve, which 687 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,239 Speaker 1: is the valve at the rear by the canister. It's 688 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:59,279 Speaker 1: normally open um. You can cycle them repeatedly using a 689 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,640 Speaker 1: power pro up ground. You may find that it sticks. 690 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,919 Speaker 1: But you know, the smoke test is only a small 691 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:07,759 Speaker 1: part of it. A smoke test only tells me there 692 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:09,319 Speaker 1: is a leak, which we already know there's a leak. 693 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:11,920 Speaker 1: Obviously there's something else going on here, and I think 694 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,640 Speaker 1: we need to start thinking a component level and perhaps 695 00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:16,759 Speaker 1: push detective take it a little bit further and take 696 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:18,239 Speaker 1: it back where they have to thank a guest. This way, 697 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:20,399 Speaker 1: they've got no complaints. Call me if you need more. 698 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:22,480 Speaker 1: Until the next time I'm running any in the guard Doctor. 699 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 1: Mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. Let's see you