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Speaker 1: d you no, no, no, take that back, d Javis Land.

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Speaker 1: But it's cool. Yeah, but let's talk like talk about

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Speaker 2: I'm like, loo, I'm about to book a flight to Atlanta.

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Speaker 1: I called ACEP, I said, what the fuck? I said,

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Speaker 1: And don't get me wrong, I was, I was. I

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Speaker 1: growing up in that ribbaly See? I never, I never

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Speaker 1: my city. No, it's nothing like it, Lenny. You play

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Speaker 1: up popping it. You know what I'm saying. But that team, Bro,

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Speaker 1: Like about that lock. I called mom, like, look, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's like, damn, Bro, Like it's great guys. Bro, It's

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Speaker 1: Sue Sue. I played with Sue in Miami. Know what

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Speaker 2: Sue, the best, literally, one of the best teammates I

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Speaker 1: Should I talk to him? Should I say what's up?

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Speaker 1: He has an angry demeanor, Bro, his aura is very dark.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how to explain. It's like once you

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Speaker 2: I remember we all working out. He never worked out

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Speaker 1: He got his own doctors bike on the trainers, he

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Speaker 2: I'm like, damn, Like he ain't trying to be in

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Speaker 1: He's doing him bro.

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Speaker 1: And the crazy thing is when I was in Jacksonville,

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Speaker 1: make him da da, She'd be like, damn, you call

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Speaker 1: your kill you. And I was like, and now fast

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Speaker 2: You know what he he had lived a full athlete

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Speaker 2: cycle of like you know and and and you know

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Speaker 1: was working on in Miami. You was asking us, like,

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Speaker 1: you know, do do y'all get together and throw? And

429
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Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, we practiced at the Yankees Baseball stadium.

430
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Speaker 1: You know, we throw, We throw here and there, you know,

431
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Speaker 1: just to to get the timing right to get back

432
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Speaker 1: what we needed to be And and you asked me like, man,

433
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Speaker 1: like how it is working with him? Like, Bro, it's great.

434
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Speaker 1: Like I always I told you, like that you won

435
00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:28,720
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl. He knew every fucking thing everything, every

436
00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:32,040
Speaker 1: fucking thing when it was happening, before it happened. So

437
00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:36,680
Speaker 1: we have offens of meeting. Then we got the players meeting. Lenny,

438
00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:38,879
Speaker 1: expect the ball. I'm gonna throw you like twelve times

439
00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,359
Speaker 1: before the game. No, no, this this this is a Friday.

440
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Speaker 1: This is a Friday. Oh he let you know what

441
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:49,480
Speaker 1: it is. And man, I always wanted to play with TV.

442
00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:53,240
Speaker 1: I think it made it much more easy for him because,

443
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Speaker 1: like I mean, we're not like how the guys was

444
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Speaker 1: at the Patriots, right you know they were they were were.

445
00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:02,240
Speaker 1: It was good, right, it was good, but you know

446
00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 1: personality were talented, right, So we made it easy for him.

447
00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:11,320
Speaker 1: And I think the reason why he respected me so much.

448
00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:12,919
Speaker 1: I didn't treat him like time b. I treat him

449
00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:16,520
Speaker 1: like my teammate. So when I see him, especially in

450
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Speaker 1: the game when he scrambled, I'm like, bro, get your

451
00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,800
Speaker 1: little lass down like you a ball something you get hurt,

452
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Speaker 1: We done, you get hurt. Who was your backup quarterback

453
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Speaker 1: by Blaine Blank? Was Blaine Blank throwing that thing? Blank? Yes,

454
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:35,760
Speaker 1: could throw it, interesting could throw it. So you still

455
00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:39,080
Speaker 1: have this ring sitting on this table. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. But Blaine had has the arm. No,

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Speaker 1: I like Blaine he was in New Orleans. He has

458
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Speaker 1: an arm. So it's like and and people love TV

459
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Speaker 1: soap bro listening. What's what's his name? Gardner? CJ J.

460
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Speaker 1: That's know c J. Yeah, Garden to Johnson motherfuckers so aggravating. Yeah,

461
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:05,120
Speaker 1: he's a great player though, yeah yeah. So and it's

462
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,639
Speaker 1: this what like the Saints and Tampa beef really started,

463
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,159
Speaker 1: like you know, halftime, Bread were just sitting there. He

464
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Speaker 1: try to come, he try to come talk and you know,

465
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:15,560
Speaker 1: we talked about this probably a week or two weeks ago.

466
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Speaker 1: We'll talk about this on this on Twitch. He's like, man,

467
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:22,679
Speaker 1: you talk so much ship. I said, bro, we are

468
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Speaker 1: competing right like, and this for everybody we played against, y'all.

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Speaker 1: Motherfucker's come to halftime whatever, commercial break and try to

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Speaker 1: come shake tim hands. Oh, I said, I just slapped

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Speaker 1: the funk. I say, bitch, move, fuck is you doing? Like?

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Speaker 1: Don't touch that MOTHERFUCKERD like that shituld wait to after

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Speaker 1: the game. But it's like, that's what made I think

474
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Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay team great. The attitudes, Yeah, the fights

475
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Speaker 2: No, he's a dog, but he's always he's always my

479
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Speaker 2: What would you say about that team when you guys

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 2: I know y'all had a big win. You went off

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Speaker 1: I think it's probably week ten, Bro, Yeah, like we

528
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Speaker 1: had a dollar in and humble ourselves. You know, you

529
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Speaker 1: got a guy like me who came from offense and

530
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Speaker 1: everything was ran through me. Guy like Ab, everything ran

531
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 1: through Ab and the stillers. Yep. So it's about just

532
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 1: understanding the bigger picture. Y'all had a lot of chess

533
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,159
Speaker 1: pieces on that on the road man so broposed being

534
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:54,199
Speaker 1: in practice, right, and like Tom used to be really frustrated, Like, Bro,

535
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:56,159
Speaker 1: it's one fucking ball. It's like I got all these

536
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,360
Speaker 1: motherfuckers and it's like I think it was a hard

537
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,440
Speaker 1: job for them too, to make every everybody happen. And

538
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:03,399
Speaker 1: even during the time we wasn't a running team. We

539
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:04,879
Speaker 1: ran the ball here and there, but we was a

540
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 1: passing team first. But it'd be games, He'll like, Bro,

541
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 1: He'll just be real like Leonny, you you you ain't

542
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,639
Speaker 1: getting at getting his bitches there, man, get twelve times.

543
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 1: I'd be like, fuck block hard hat, But I'm just

544
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:21,199
Speaker 1: understanding the bigger purpose to winning the championship. Yeah, bro, Bro,

545
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 1: he told Mike went like you you might get the

546
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 1: ball two times this game, like, what the fun? Yeahs, receiver,

547
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,159
Speaker 1: who the fuck are you gonna through? Right? You and

548
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 1: I get the ball thirteen catches and I ain't gonna lie.

549
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:33,159
Speaker 1: I hated that as a receiver.

550
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 2: I hated seeing the running back leave a game with

551
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 2: more catches than a receiver, Like y'all paying us to

552
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 2: catch the ball and we opened and this man got

553
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 2: twelve catches for for twenty eight yards.

554
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 1: But listen, I could honestly say this, right we played,

555
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 1: I can't, I can't. I think it's either Miami or Atlanta.

556
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 1: I had seventeen m mes. So hey, get on this bench,

557
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 1: Get on that bench over here. You're gonna sit next

558
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 1: to me to right, being put it up right when

559
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 1: the meeting, bro, all my teamers could tell you this.

560
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 1: It was seventeen of them and being you know, hard nose, like,

561
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 1: look what the fuck you doing, right, coach, I'm trying

562
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 1: to make a play, you know what I'm saying, just

563
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 1: trying to make a play. You went rogue? Did? I

564
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 1: like fucking mission impossible? Though? And it's like but also

565
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 1: some of the ship like you know Tom and tell

566
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 1: me dude, and they they'll give me any fuckeruse I'm

567
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 1: running the wrong route. But he told you, I ain't ratting.

568
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I ain't what's up blowing

569
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 1: like this? This is my this, this, this is my quarterbacks.

570
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 1: He wasn't coming for your meetings. I don't care all that, bro, y'ah.

571
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 1: Winning we wentod, places're gonna find me, you know, not

572
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 1: find one hundred dollars year. You sucking that ball is?

573
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 1: You know? Get on your ass. I didn't care like

574
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 1: my every every one of my teammates. Now I don't.

575
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 1: As long as we win. I'm cool, I feel and

576
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 1: that's and that's what we was on. Well, look, we

577
00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 1: got some breaking news.

578
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 2: Mike Evans just signed with the San Francisco forty nine ers,

579
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 2: three year deal.

580
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 1: I don't have all the terms yet.

581
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Speaker 2: Sixty ms at thirty five, thirty four, thirty four years old, sixty.

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Speaker 1: Ms, Oh my god, Hall of Famer. Hey, bro, I

583
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 1: think Jared Rights has something to do this. Hey, you

584
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 1: think about the consistent listen, hold up before we get

585
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 1: to Jared Rights. Bro, that's three year, sixty three year,

586
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 1: sixty Tampa. Why why would y'all give this man the

587
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 1: option to go explore and knowing people are gonna want him.

588
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 2: Honestly, he was the best thing that happened to him.

589
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 2: He was a pioneer to bro since since the beginning.

590
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 2: He was the face he was, he was, you know what,

591
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 2: my brother. Look, I embarked on a free agency journey

592
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:54,959
Speaker 2: as well, got released and the whole thing. But at

593
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 2: the same time, bruh, you're going to get paid, You're

594
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Speaker 2: going to a new city, start over.

595
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 1: You know, hopefully that give you some more youth, youth

596
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 1: miss them back.

597
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 2: You feel me getting some lighter air, you know, man

598
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 2: and you with the goat up there, you know who's

599
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 2: around Lynch. Also, who's the who's the GM there? So

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00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 2: I think they take they treat their players well. From

601
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 2: everything that I've heard.

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00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 1: Brock, pretty you're a lucky man today. Many lucky Michael.

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Speaker 1: First of all, it's a sad different temple because I

604
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 1: know they're going crazy the fans listen, they but this

605
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 1: news is this, this is not new news that they

606
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 1: were they were, but but I didn't think that they

607
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 1: would actually let them go, the bucks one of them.

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00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 1: That's why I said, why they give him a chance

609
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 1: to explore? I would have just I would have just

610
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 1: give him whatever right.

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00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 2: Then and now, really, yes, So you don't think the

612
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 2: Bucks put themselves in a in a in a favorable

613
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 2: position to even be able to match the deal that

614
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 2: he wanted or do you think that? Or did Mike

615
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 2: Evans say, you know what, Tempa, I gave it all

616
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 2: and I'm done.

617
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 1: I think it was time for It's a new scheme.

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Speaker 1: We knew everything for him, right. Uh, I'm happy. I'm

619
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Speaker 1: happy as hell because he deserves it, right, works his

620
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 1: ass off, don't complain. He understands the football start and

621
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 1: business side, right. He's a hard worker. He's a community leader, man,

622
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 1: bro he did he does so much in the community

623
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Speaker 1: in Tampa. And I know for a fact they will

624
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 1: truly miss him, right. I just hate that the Bucks

625
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 1: then offer him something earlier right out the gate just

626
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 1: to stay. And I'm not sure how the Bucks season

627
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 1: will go without that young man. Well, I like the

628
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 1: young kid that that that that you guys have, Chris

629
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 1: Godwin will see what happens there, right, and and I'm

630
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 1: afraid they might let go Chris just off the strength

631
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Speaker 1: of why injury history. I understand that, you know what

632
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, and Chris is a great guy, but

633
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 1: we're talking about business. Now you longevity. You know, you

634
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 1: think about the young guy that got No. Number two.

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00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 1: He's alright, he nice, Yeah, he's all right. Like you

636
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Johnson, Yeah, we work out together

637
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 1: out there, Ted Johnson number two from my hot stag.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, he nice. We work out together out there,

639
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 1: uh in Tampa. And you Murphy spot my trainer. You

640
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So it's like, now, who are

641
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 1: you gonna cook? Get to replace that? Like Chris is consistent.

642
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 1: He holds the record for the most cuts in the game,

643
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 1: seventeen sixty eighteen, whatever the case may be. It's hard. Yeah,

644
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 1: it's hard find players like that. Yeah, listen, I play

645
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 1: with Baker out in out in Cleveland. We had me myself, Odell.

646
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 1: We had a backfield as well.

647
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:44,719
Speaker 2: Right, I would say the best thing for Baker Man

648
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 2: is to be able to be able to throw the football,

649
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 2: to be able to do play action pass, mix it up,

650
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 2: do some different schemes here and there. So it'd be

651
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 2: interesting to see how they draft. Maybe that's a sign

652
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 2: to tell you what they're gonna go after in the draft.

653
00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 2: There's a couple of receivers out there that I know

654
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 2: but man, Mike Evans, Bro, happy for you, man, Proud

655
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 2: of you, Bro, Michael hell hell of a hell of

656
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 2: a career so far.

657
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 1: Man, keep that going, man.

658
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:10,799
Speaker 2: You and Tay I think the only two left that's

659
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 2: holding it down for the twenty fourteen class man, So

660
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 2: keep going, man.

661
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 1: Congratulations brother, that's when you guys drafted it. Yeah, twenty fourteen, Bro,

662
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:26,359
Speaker 1: when I graduated high school. Yeah, damn damn, Hey, Bro,

663
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 1: towns fly. Yeah, it does fly, man, it does fly.

664
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 1: Breaking news. Travis Atn just signed with the Saints. How

665
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 1: you feel about that? Weren't running back to another? I mean,

666
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 1: good for him? You know? Is he is he? What

667
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 1: you consider him? Top five running back, top ten running back? Like?

668
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 1: Where is he? I'm not sure because I don't watch

669
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 1: the game? No more, right, don't watch jackson Nah nah nah.

670
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:51,839
Speaker 1: It's nothing against Jacksonville, right, It's just and I wish

671
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 1: it would have worked out when I was there, Right,

672
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:57,360
Speaker 1: But I can tell you, man, I had this me

673
00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:00,440
Speaker 1: and Doug wrong. Man, we had a little history, right.

674
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 1: We just stayn't see how the eye You know, he

675
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 1: was a great guy, but you know, some things just happened.

676
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 1: So my years there, we had a situation right in

677
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:16,360
Speaker 1: the season we had. That's a real situation. So he

678
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,799
Speaker 1: wanted me to come back for pictures. And I'm about

679
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 1: to have my child to be born. I'm like, man, listen, bro,

680
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,879
Speaker 1: I'm not coming back for no day the team team

681
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:26,800
Speaker 1: for I'm like, just put me in there like that,

682
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 1: don't make no sense. Photo shot me facts, all this

683
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,439
Speaker 1: a ship going on. Put me in there, brother, don't

684
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,719
Speaker 1: do me that. Like so long story short, come back

685
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 1: after I buy whatever. We get back. One day he say, look,

686
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 1: I'm suspending you. Oh wow. I'm like, I'm like over

687
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 1: a picture. He's like, well, we're not trying to make

688
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 1: no one bigger than no one on the scene. You know,

689
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 1: we're gonna hold your accountable. Nobody come to see you. Notice.

690
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 1: So I'm like, all right, cool. So you know when

691
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 1: you suspend it, you supposed to be at the crib.

692
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:03,360
Speaker 1: They made me stay there the whole week watching practice.

693
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:07,839
Speaker 1: So like I'm hot and now like right and yeah,

694
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 1: yeah for sure. But at the time, I was young,

695
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. That's why I tell you,

696
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,799
Speaker 1: young guys, every young guy knows that I run into

697
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:17,840
Speaker 1: handled the business first, the business side of football, because

698
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 1: it's two different things. People don't understand, especially these fans.

699
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 1: There's the football side and the business side. So we

700
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 1: get into the off season, you know we uh, I

701
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:31,360
Speaker 1: think it was just tanking. Bro We got rid of

702
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 1: jailing Ramsey, Kaliz Campbell, Malik Jackson, Yanick, but we got

703
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 1: rid of everybody. Was like, I posted a meme it

704
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:46,359
Speaker 1: was Will Smith in the house looking at everybody, looking

705
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 1: at everybody leaving, and I was like, damn brother, no,

706
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:56,399
Speaker 1: Miles Jack, no, Telvin Smith, excellent players. And I came

707
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 1: back in shape, tip top shape. You know. You know

708
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And it's it's so funny that this

709
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 1: business could change you, try to change you, but you know,

710
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 1: you gotta stay true to who you are. You know.

711
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 1: One of the greatest owners, best owner I've had in

712
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 1: the football with Shopkhan Man, great man. He loves he

713
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:19,800
Speaker 1: loves his team, He loved the guys he he picks

714
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:23,800
Speaker 1: for Jacksonville. And I'll never forget. There's a meeting we

715
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:27,760
Speaker 1: had Thursday, Thursday night, you know, went up to his office.

716
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 1: He was like, man, how you feel about Doug Maroon.

717
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm like, damn, Like, you know what that means.

718
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 1: So I'm like, this is me being who I am.

719
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 1: I've been a coach. Doug House met his kids, his family.

720
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:43,839
Speaker 1: I'm like, nah, keep them yep, like keep them temperature checked,

721
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 1: you say, keep them? Like, keep them? He was like why,

722
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:49,320
Speaker 1: you know, I gave my my reasons of why, but

723
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 1: and they kept him. So. But when it came to me,

724
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 1: he kicked my ass at the curve. And that ship,

725
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 1: that ship really made me. That shit made me feel

726
00:37:57,800 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 1: with it like, you know, every this game is not

727
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 1: loyal to you, you know, And it almost changed the

728
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 1: dynamic of the guy the person I was raised brought

729
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 1: up to be. And I in somehow, some way I

730
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:11,359
Speaker 1: didn't let it affect me. So do you think, looking

731
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 1: back at it, that you handled the situation the right

732
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 1: way with you know, it was your daughter born at

733
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:21,839
Speaker 1: that time, or or ship one of them? Yeah, right right?

734
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 1: How are the kids? You got? Got five? Five kids? Right?

735
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 2: Your son, your daughter was born. You missed team pictures,

736
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 2: you came back. He essentially punished you for it.

737
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 1: You love this thing. I'm like, all right, cool, I'm

738
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:37,360
Speaker 1: walking out. He grabbed me on the shoulder. I had a.

739
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 3: Hold up, coach, all right, I said, you yeah, baby man,

740
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:50,360
Speaker 3: God but nah Na, and then you went up in

741
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:52,359
Speaker 3: there and stood up for him with the GM yeah.

742
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 1: And next day, next next week, two weeks out there

743
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 1: you're so, you know, I've never experienced that ship. So

744
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 1: it's like shot the marks filing. You know my guy,

745
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 1: you know, he's the players guy over in Jacksonville. He's

746
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 1: look on the gate looking say like coach won't talk

747
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 1: to you. But I'm thinking. I'm like, I'm thinking because

748
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 1: I made us practice. I did the the rally walk

749
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 1: Black Lives Matter Walk, and a lot of guys was playing, man,

750
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 1: we should go protest, Like, bro, listen, we did the

751
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 1: walk already, let's go practice, Let's go get better like

752
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:27,360
Speaker 1: we did it. It's over with. I'm not trying to

753
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 1: miss no more days of practice. Like, we got a

754
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 1: season coming up. So I made us practice. We took

755
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 1: a vote, we voted to practice. So I'm thinking that's

756
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 1: what he's calling me. Yeah, I'm like coming out. I'm excited, like,

757
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, Liona, we will let you go. Like

758
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 1: what the fuck? Look part of me I want to

759
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 1: jump up and kick the funk out of I'm being real,

760
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 1: I wanted to jump up and kick coach, bro. But

761
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 1: it's like, now it goes back to watch what you

762
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 1: asks for two. I'm seeing all these great guys leaving.

763
00:39:57,800 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 1: I'm like, God, give me out, this, give me out this.

764
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 1: But God got me out there in the way I

765
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:05,840
Speaker 1: didn't expect. Yeah, so I got released. He said, this

766
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 1: is exact words. They couldn't find no no picks for me.

767
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 1: In my mind was bullshit, right, you know what I'm saying.

768
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 1: I had one of the best coaches I've been around,

769
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:19,319
Speaker 1: Terry Robisky. Of course, he's one of the first guys

770
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 1: at LSU. He was the Atlantic guy too. Yeah, I

771
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 1: broke all his records, coach, you see this My bad, bro,

772
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 1: I broke all your records at LSU. But it's like

773
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:27,800
Speaker 1: and it's hard. He felt like they were trying to

774
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 1: blackball men. You know what I'm saying. So you left there, right?

775
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:35,279
Speaker 1: Did you keep an eye on Jacksonville? Have you?

776
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 3: Have you been? You know?

777
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:40,800
Speaker 1: Now even now, like how all about the program? Do

778
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:41,360
Speaker 1: you feel like?

779
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 2: Obviously there's a team that drafted you. So you got

780
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:44,919
Speaker 2: to a little bit love you got you got something

781
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 2: left in the tape for him.

782
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 1: I don't really watch them. You don't watch them I

783
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 1: don't watch them nothing nothing, No Trevor Lawrence, Nah nah nothing, Bro.

784
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,439
Speaker 1: So it's like I moved all my life like yeah,

785
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 1: they drafted me and everything, you know what I'm saying.

786
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:00,320
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, you know, it

787
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 1: is a business. You gotta you have to grow, you

788
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 1: have to go. And that's what I did. And and

789
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 1: I can say, honestly say one of my hardest years

790
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 1: in football was that transition from Jacksonville to Tempa because

791
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 1: I got I got, I got released two weeks before

792
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 1: the season started, so like I had had to learn

793
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:17,839
Speaker 1: this whole playbook all over again. And I in my mind,

794
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 1: I'm still I was still mad, like I'm not starting

795
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 1: right now, you know. And that's the hardest part to understand,

796
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 1: Like you've been a start of your whole life to

797
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 1: go to play behind somebody. Bro. I swear to God,

798
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 1: Ronald Jones brough my dog and he and Ronald knoww this.

799
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 1: He'll fumble like about to get it that abot to

800
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 1: cut up he bringing for ninety next play. Brother. I

801
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 1: put my I put the hood over my head, crying

802
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 1: to the side. I'm not gonna never see the field.

803
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 1: But God, God worked it out. For me, man, wind

804
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 1: up being a super Bowl champion that year. You know

805
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:58,320
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, super Bowl champion that year. So I

806
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 1: can't complain. Man, everything happened I supposed to. That's awesome. Man.

807
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 2: I feel like as your position has evolved over the years, right,

808
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 2: you see guys like Evan Kamara, Christian McCaffrey, we just

809
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 2: dropped the news with Travis at and signed in New Orleans.

810
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,799
Speaker 2: Guys who caught the ball off the backfield. You caught

811
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:18,880
Speaker 2: the ball very well in Jacksonville. You always have Obviously.

812
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 2: I feel like you almost them to let the team

813
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 2: in Tampa Bay almost the Super Bowl year, right right,

814
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 2: So like I feel like if you had to like

815
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 2: rate maybe your best top ten, top five running backs

816
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:32,360
Speaker 2: right now, Like who would that be?

817
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:39,319
Speaker 1: No order? No? I say, Kwan h? Who's Kwan?

818
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 2: So just for people that don't you know, mister Barklay Yeah, okay,

819
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:47,919
Speaker 2: mister Barkley, Okay, Derek of course it's big ass.

820
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 1: Yeah. Christian McCaffrey, only one Christian I know CMC. Yeah,

821
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 1: my god, same class too? Who else? Yeah? You know what?

822
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 1: Same class? I was number four? Wasumba eight? Oh yeah,

823
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:04,840
Speaker 1: that's dope. I didn't know that. Yeah. Yeah, you're not

824
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 1: the first person to set out the ball game, so

825
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 1: I didn't know that. Really yeah really yeah yeah what

826
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 1: was that like? I'm sure you took some heat for that.

827
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 1: Oh definitely. So when I did it, Christian d m

828
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:19,320
Speaker 1: me on Twitter, you know, he's like, hey, man, I

829
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:21,399
Speaker 1: want to I want to. I want to read your mind.

830
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 1: Let you know, I said, bro, you want to know

831
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 1: why the fuck I'm sitting out just say that. Oh

832
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 1: come and just this stand for ship. I read my

833
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 1: mind and everything, and uh, I give my reason. I'm like, man, listen,

834
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:33,399
Speaker 1: I got a son. I got a son and a daughter.

835
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 1: You know it's at the time, No, it's no n

836
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 1: il so you're not getting paid. So you're going out

837
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 1: there free willingly every Saturday and that valley playing with

838
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:46,239
Speaker 1: a high little ankle spring and my tickers already point

839
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 1: out the top five draft pick. The ready came, I'm like, listen, coach,

840
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 1: I can't it's over. Who is the coach at the time? Yeah,

841
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,880
Speaker 1: I feel like and o G. So I'm sure he

842
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:02,839
Speaker 1: was kind of like, I understand you. I feel like yeah,

843
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 1: but but he was like, man, it's about to know

844
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:07,719
Speaker 1: it's his whole thing was about the team. I'm like, coach,

845
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:10,799
Speaker 1: I gave y'all everything I had for these the two

846
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 1: and a half three years, Like we lost, you know

847
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, We had a promise in future with

848
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 1: all these we had, bro we had so many people

849
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 1: on that team, so many guys on the team. So

850
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 1: it's like now when you put you first, it was

851
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:26,880
Speaker 1: on my ass, Like when I went into the NFL

852
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:29,800
Speaker 1: draft meetings and everything for the combine everything, Yeah, do

853
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 1: you love football because you set out all? Because I

854
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 1: set out. So now it's like you see the guys

855
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:40,880
Speaker 1: doing it now, it's like I'm a pioneer, like I started.

856
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 1: I started this ship and I'm and I'm happy for

857
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 1: the guys that's making the decision. And in some cases

858
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:51,440
Speaker 1: it's great. You look at Jamal Chase, Yeah yeah, just

859
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:54,319
Speaker 1: signed a just sign a big contract. Who's still going

860
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 1: to do tremendous things. And he's a New Orleans guy,

861
00:44:57,960 --> 00:44:59,879
Speaker 1: my brother, you know what I'm saying. Also, l SU guy,

862
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:02,880
Speaker 1: you hear me doing this thing. So it's like, in

863
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 1: some sense it makes it makes sense for some guys,

864
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 1: and you gotta have a reason why you're doing it. Yeah,

865
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 1: I think the college football space has changed so much.

866
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 1: And you talked about in I L. I think, like

867
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:18,799
Speaker 1: I think if I had to give you a dollar

868
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:21,320
Speaker 1: amount in I L, what do you think? What you

869
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 1: think I'm gonna say, like like fifteen mil? Am I

870
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 1: over and under? I don't know what you actually got paid.

871
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 1: I don't Oh, I don't know, you know, bought and right? Right,

872
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:39,240
Speaker 1: that's some listen, I don't know because I value myself.

873
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 1: I look at us when we played. Half the kids

874
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 1: not there all right, you know what I'm saying. They

875
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 1: I don't think it would have made it back in

876
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:50,279
Speaker 1: the times we played tough. It was tougher. You have

877
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 1: to be mentally on it, right, So I would say

878
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 1: if they had in IL when I was playing, I

879
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:03,319
Speaker 1: probably would have stay in college four years. Hmm. If

880
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 1: I'm making twelve to fifteen million dollars a year, right right, yeah,

881
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:12,360
Speaker 1: and I'm still I can still be a kid, a

882
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 1: young man. You know, I'm mad right now, So skill

883
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:20,400
Speaker 1: my language when you see this all the buns around, like,

884
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:23,439
Speaker 1: come on, bro, I'm just being real, like I've been real.

885
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 1: You're tricking, You're tricking what whatever? My god? So you

886
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 1: know back in that back back in them days, you

887
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:34,839
Speaker 1: know it wasn't now you was getting Michael cores MC.

888
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:36,840
Speaker 1: I had a micro court. You know what I'm saying, Like,

889
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:39,759
Speaker 1: so so bus down Micael, Course the tricker would have

890
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:42,759
Speaker 1: been a little cheaper. I spent eight hundred eight hundred

891
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 1: on you, for sure, this guy listen, So hey, bro,

892
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:53,799
Speaker 1: like I tell kids, not bro, enjoy enjoy being a kid,

893
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:56,799
Speaker 1: right because and also I think I l is fucking

894
00:46:56,840 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 1: the game up too. Why I just feel like back

895
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 1: in our times, when someone was better than you, you

896
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 1: cannot leave. You have to be there and you have

897
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 1: to stay there and compete with them. These guys.

898
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:15,399
Speaker 2: They leave, So it's like, but but sorry to cut

899
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:17,840
Speaker 2: you off. Wouldn't you say that's a business decision? What

900
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 2: you're talking about business and you're talking about sports, right,

901
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:27,360
Speaker 2: would you say it's a business decision? If I'm behind

902
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 2: Leonard Fournet and I know I'm not about to get

903
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:33,239
Speaker 2: in the game until and I ain't got no more

904
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:35,319
Speaker 2: red shirt, no nothing, I ain't get in the game,

905
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:36,959
Speaker 2: why would I stay?

906
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 1: And when I can go play at Old Miss and

907
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 1: get if he be better, he's better, that's fine. But

908
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 1: understand this Leonard, for Net. I didn't start the full

909
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 1: game my freshman year full games at l s U.

910
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:52,279
Speaker 1: I had to wait. Yeah, because, I mean again, we

911
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:55,839
Speaker 1: talked that the game of the speed was different. You're

912
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 1: coming from high school to college picking up blocks? What

913
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 1: the fun doing that in high school? That's what I'm saying.

914
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 1: So I think in some sense it's good for certain

915
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:10,319
Speaker 1: people like you. Look at Baker Mayfield, Okay, right, yea,

916
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:14,840
Speaker 1: So I just I just feel like personally, you're running

917
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 1: away from challenges and it's not going to help you

918
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:20,719
Speaker 1: in the NFL. So I think prime example of that

919
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:23,919
Speaker 1: this year is Carson beck right, right, Carson Beck leaves

920
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 1: I want to say Georgia, but he did great at Georgia, right,

921
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 1: but then he comes here first year. Yes, Natty, true

922
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 1: ACC champions, true business decision or was it just a

923
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 1: football move that I'm just he should have made. I'm

924
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 1: just saying this, right, And I'm not saying that it

925
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:46,400
Speaker 1: was a business decision or was it a good or

926
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 1: bad move. I'm just saying it's not going to help

927
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 1: you in the NFL because once you're on that team,

928
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 1: you can't You're not right. If he's better than you,

929
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:55,800
Speaker 1: he's better than you. Yeah, you have to find ways

930
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:59,320
Speaker 1: to compete, find ways to get better. Okay, I get it,

931
00:48:59,360 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 1: I get it.

932
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:02,360
Speaker 2: So you feel like it's stripping away the competitive nature

933
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 2: of the competitive rise of players.

934
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 1: Well, again, you know, the cream always rides to the top.

935
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:10,760
Speaker 1: So always, either at some point in college.

936
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 2: Or in the NFL, we're gonna we're gonna have that. Really,

937
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:17,799
Speaker 2: they're gonna have that realization. Yeah, and again I wish

938
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:19,479
Speaker 2: him the best. I hope they make as much money

939
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:23,400
Speaker 2: as possible in college and in the NFL. But I

940
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:25,800
Speaker 2: want to take it back to the atn thing signing

941
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:28,799
Speaker 2: back in New Orleans? Do you feel like he helps

942
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 2: the backfield there?

943
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:30,920
Speaker 1: What do you feel like?

944
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 2: Is the Kamar question that everybody is probably gonna ask now, right,

945
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:36,399
Speaker 2: is he gone?

946
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:38,880
Speaker 1: Is he staying? How do you feel about that? I

947
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:43,280
Speaker 1: don't know. I feel like AK brings a different aspect

948
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:47,920
Speaker 1: to the game, Like what receiving he's to me, he's

949
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:52,279
Speaker 1: a better receiving back than MHM. For sure of you

950
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 1: seen it and you've seen when the sins at a

951
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 1: high level what they went through. Yeah, he went through. AK. Yes,

952
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:01,360
Speaker 1: he's older. Now do I do I still think he

953
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:04,239
Speaker 1: has guests in the tank of course. Yeah, I believe

954
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 1: he's fresh. I believe even if it's not the same.

955
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 1: So I know, I know he wants to stay there.

956
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 1: Sometimes new looks is better for you.

957
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, let's let's just say hypothetically, you think they

958
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 2: make a good one two punch or or is a

959
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 2: situation where it has to be one of the I'm

960
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 2: old school because there's a lot of running backs over there.

961
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm old school. So you gotta as a I'm

962
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:30,719
Speaker 1: gonna ask am.

963
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:32,360
Speaker 2: Okay, if you're look it, man, we want to hear.

964
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 2: I know you training in Florida, man, somewhere with Swazy

965
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 2: right now. We need to get you on the show, man,

966
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:38,800
Speaker 2: so we can hear what your what you're thinking, what

967
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:42,320
Speaker 2: your plans. Maybe break some news for sure, But selfishly

968
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:46,239
Speaker 2: I'm speaking for me. Yeah, and I know the game

969
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:47,759
Speaker 2: has changed. I've always been a guy that.

970
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 1: Took the load. MHMA when I was played nine y

971
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:53,959
Speaker 1: six percent. You got a pause that, man, I ain't

972
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:55,960
Speaker 1: gonna lie. That's the first one at the show with

973
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:56,880
Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen.

974
00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:00,239
Speaker 2: That's the first pause of the twenty two on the

975
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:02,439
Speaker 2: six fourth and South show.

976
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 1: Y'all see what this fucking man. Mind, you're gonna take

977
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 1: the right right? The workload, that's better? Man? What kind

978
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 1: of work the workload on the fucking field in twenty

979
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:16,719
Speaker 1: twenty six? Now we gotta be wait. I know we

980
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 1: got all kinds of AI toos out there. See this, bro?

981
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 1: Why are you doing all this? I just heard load

982
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 1: and I stop and everything. Now, I think this the

983
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 1: workload on the offense, right, I played eight ninety eight

984
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:33,360
Speaker 1: percent of the steps and sometimes you do feel it,

985
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:36,440
Speaker 1: you do feel long. Yeah, it's a long season, right,

986
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:39,839
Speaker 1: So the dynamic of the game has changed so much,

987
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 1: Like you do need two backs, right, So I believe

988
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 1: they'll work well because he is you know, it's like

989
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 1: a power back yep, you know, uh a k for nests.

990
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 1: You know, like he's a loser catching the ball getting

991
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:57,400
Speaker 1: out the backfield. So I hope it work out in

992
00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 1: their favor. So would you rate this pick up? Ab?

993
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:02,600
Speaker 1: I give it A.

994
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:08,240
Speaker 2: I'll give it you have a young quarterback, I'll probably

995
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:11,439
Speaker 2: give it a C A C A C R B. Man,

996
00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 2: that ain't good, right.

997
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 1: You gotta get think about the line the young quarterback like,

998
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 1: but that's why that's why you bring it and running

999
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:21,239
Speaker 1: back that's but it's different though, if you manage the game.

1000
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:26,399
Speaker 1: But understand this though. Receiver. Yeah, y'all depend on one

1001
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 1: person quarterback, that's true, and he's young running back. We

1002
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:36,360
Speaker 1: depend on what the line. Everybody, everybody, everybody. Again, I

1003
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:38,399
Speaker 1: don't know how it works out. I think I think

1004
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:40,880
Speaker 1: that it's a I think it's a good pick. I'm

1005
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 1: going to give it a B plus.

1006
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:45,759
Speaker 2: And if they decide to keep a lave, which I've

1007
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:48,800
Speaker 2: seen some rumors that they have a lave also on

1008
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:51,840
Speaker 2: the trading block, I don't think they could afford to

1009
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:55,719
Speaker 2: lose a lave. But at the same time, if you

1010
00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:57,840
Speaker 2: know they're going to continue this tanking ship, you.

1011
00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:00,719
Speaker 1: Know what I mean. I forget as many picture as

1012
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:03,800
Speaker 1: y'all can to put the city back on top. Please

1013
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 1: shout out to the science baby, please all right?

1014
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 2: This next segment Lenny's Locks sponsored by Hard Rock Back

1015
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 2: Who you got winn AFC this.

1016
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:24,240
Speaker 1: Year AFC, I gotta go with Kansas City, right, Kenny

1017
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:27,719
Speaker 1: Walker running back, great picture. I think Mahomes is gonna

1018
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 1: come back with vengeance and the Reed is a great coach, right. Uh,

1019
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:35,880
Speaker 1: first time in the last couple of years they had

1020
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 1: a bad season, Travis Kelce came back. Yep, hey, Brouh

1021
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:43,440
Speaker 1: Scots the limit for that for that squad righting in

1022
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 1: the wall over there. So I was like, what about NFC,

1023
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 1: NFC champions, the Rams, the Rams, the Rams, their dark

1024
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:58,239
Speaker 1: horse over there. Stafford, mister, No, look, I understand, h

1025
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 1: I don't know if Vante is going to sign back,

1026
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:02,800
Speaker 1: which I think I think he is. I think I

1027
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:05,439
Speaker 1: think he is. They're gonna do right Bob running backs,

1028
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:08,319
Speaker 1: right Williams twenty three, they have, They have a lot

1029
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:09,480
Speaker 1: going on over there. I don't know.

1030
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 2: They had their handsful of last year with Seattle. So

1031
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 2: moving on, Super Bowl champion, you gotta win it all next.

1032
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 1: I think I think Pat Mahomes. I'm telling you, walk

1033
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:22,840
Speaker 1: my words. I think Pat's gonna come back and do

1034
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:25,399
Speaker 1: his thing. Man. All right, So we got your ANFC pick,

1035
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 1: we have your AFC pick, even your Super Bowl prediction.

1036
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:32,720
Speaker 1: What's Lindy's long shot? Linny's long shot is the Chicago Bears.

1037
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:37,479
Speaker 1: The quarterback talent that they have there, the young guys

1038
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:40,319
Speaker 1: at wide receiver, the coach, coach Johnson, who I think

1039
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:42,600
Speaker 1: is gonna be turning a lot of his this year.

1040
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:45,880
Speaker 1: He had a great season last year he did. I

1041
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:48,760
Speaker 1: think the organization is turning around. You know, they're finding

1042
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:52,319
Speaker 1: ways to keep their key guys. And also who's ever

1043
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:55,720
Speaker 1: over there that's drafting draft some hell of a picks.

1044
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:59,000
Speaker 1: So my long shot is the Chicago Bears. And that's

1045
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:04,280
Speaker 1: Lenny's locks about hard rock back. We're talking about releasing

1046
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:10,279
Speaker 1: Colum h I had an opportunity to meet him one

1047
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:13,960
Speaker 1: one time in l A. Yeah, A cool, cool dude. Man,

1048
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:18,320
Speaker 1: It's very quiet. Yeah, gamer too. He played Call to

1049
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 1: duty like me. Yeah, he's definitely called to due to guy.

1050
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 1: But I didn't realize how short he was. He's short.

1051
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:27,359
Speaker 1: He's like five four or five five by six by

1052
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 1: six six seven and I'm just trying to just six

1053
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 1: seven shout out to my kids, six seven and just bro,

1054
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:37,920
Speaker 1: just think about that, bro, And and I play with

1055
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 1: quarterbacks who are a lot taller and things like that.

1056
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:45,200
Speaker 1: And I know he got released. Do you think that

1057
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:47,920
Speaker 1: played a played a big part on his release? Like

1058
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 1: his height, Like, and I know he's a scrambler, you

1059
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:53,279
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, And he's fast as hell, but

1060
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:56,360
Speaker 1: you gotta have more than that.

1061
00:55:56,640 --> 00:56:01,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, Listen, he created some magic out of the Arizona Boy. Listen,

1062
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:03,800
Speaker 2: I love what you did with the hop you know.

1063
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:06,200
Speaker 2: I think the time, I think the clock just ran out.

1064
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:08,560
Speaker 2: I think I think he has a lot of talent,

1065
00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:12,279
Speaker 2: extremely talented. Him and Cliffs Kingsbury. I think at the

1066
00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:15,440
Speaker 2: time we're dolling it up, you know. And it's just

1067
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:18,399
Speaker 2: like any marriage, right, like in the NFL, when your

1068
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:21,880
Speaker 2: OC leaves or your quarterback coach leaves, you know, you

1069
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:23,759
Speaker 2: kind of start to see the chinks in the armor,

1070
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:26,279
Speaker 2: right when somebody else has to step in and call

1071
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:29,680
Speaker 2: plays and get to know you again. And I think

1072
00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 2: it's tougher at that position, right to kind of build

1073
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:35,279
Speaker 2: that rapport with someone else.

1074
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:38,440
Speaker 1: But I think he had a great career. I do

1075
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:44,880
Speaker 1: think that it's not over with. It's not over Let

1076
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:47,239
Speaker 1: me finish. I hate I think I think he's had

1077
00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:49,920
Speaker 1: a great career so far. I just think that you're right.

1078
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:54,640
Speaker 2: I think the era of the undersized quarterback, right, even

1079
00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 2: though they have mobility, it's something that's like we're seen

1080
00:56:57,880 --> 00:56:59,400
Speaker 2: kind of like leave the game.

1081
00:56:59,239 --> 00:56:59,920
Speaker 1: A little bit, right.

1082
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:02,120
Speaker 2: Everybody's looking for the bigger arm, which he has a

1083
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:06,480
Speaker 2: great arm, right, but looking for the proto type, you know,

1084
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:09,600
Speaker 2: the Mendoz, a kid out of Indiana, right, I think

1085
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:12,800
Speaker 2: he's a love love him, right, So we'll get to that.

1086
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 2: But I think I think just that's just something that

1087
00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:18,640
Speaker 2: we're starting to see that it's kind of like leaving

1088
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:21,280
Speaker 2: the game, right. And I hope he gets picked up

1089
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:23,840
Speaker 2: by a good team, even if you know he's he's

1090
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:25,760
Speaker 2: a backup for another couple of years. I think he's

1091
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:27,800
Speaker 2: a smart enough player. I think he can still make plays,

1092
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:30,320
Speaker 2: run the league. I don't know if he gets your championship,

1093
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:34,200
Speaker 2: and if teams are looking at it that way, then

1094
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 2: I don't know who picks him up when he gets picked.

1095
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:38,200
Speaker 1: Up, you know what I mean? And you know for me,

1096
00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:40,720
Speaker 1: you know, I was a two sport a league, right.

1097
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:43,960
Speaker 1: It makes me think should have should he should have

1098
00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 1: stayed with baseball. No, I think he's had a I

1099
00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:51,600
Speaker 1: think he's had a great career. I honestly think he's

1100
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:54,000
Speaker 1: had a great career. I think he's I think he's

1101
00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:57,960
Speaker 1: you know, he hasn't had a constant Palmer type of career, right,

1102
00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 1: he hasn't had a Larry Fitzgerald moment in Arizona, right,

1103
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:05,280
Speaker 1: But I think he still is someone that that gave Arizona,

1104
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:10,400
Speaker 1: a push of surge of energy. Right, they have some

1105
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:12,800
Speaker 1: great years. I think the clerk just ran out on him,

1106
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:17,080
Speaker 1: and I hope, I'm hopeful that he will still be around.

1107
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:20,240
Speaker 2: I think there's some quarterback openings. I would love to

1108
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:22,800
Speaker 2: see him here in Miami, right, I love to see

1109
00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:25,640
Speaker 2: him maybe in New York. Obviously they got the first pick,

1110
00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:26,600
Speaker 2: so we know where that's going.

1111
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:29,919
Speaker 1: But so but here in miamis like, say that does happen?

1112
00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:35,480
Speaker 1: And obviously they picked their guy who they wanted. Does

1113
00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 1: it go? Do you think he would he be willing

1114
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:41,920
Speaker 1: to be a number two or or they're gonna let

1115
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:42,600
Speaker 1: them compete for it.

1116
00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:45,760
Speaker 2: I don't think no quarterback of his caliber and what

1117
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:49,440
Speaker 2: he's done in the league probably would go to a

1118
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:53,280
Speaker 2: team where he essentially has to like compete, you know,

1119
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:53,840
Speaker 2: like in.

1120
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:57,280
Speaker 1: At a high not at a high level, but at

1121
00:58:57,320 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 1: that perspective of like what options do we have right now? Though?

1122
00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:03,080
Speaker 2: And maybe right maybe this will Maybe I'm really wrong

1123
00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:05,640
Speaker 2: about it, but I think he's a guy that is

1124
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:08,880
Speaker 2: a day one starter still in the league. Right, It's

1125
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:11,160
Speaker 2: just about the fit, and I don't know if there's

1126
00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:13,600
Speaker 2: too many out there, you know, so if I'm him.

1127
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:15,000
Speaker 1: I'll wait and see.

1128
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:17,440
Speaker 2: You're not about to get paid a lot, man, go

1129
00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:20,720
Speaker 2: to the best situation you can get, bro with some

1130
00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:23,120
Speaker 2: good receivers, you know, so you.

1131
00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:25,480
Speaker 1: Can add that thing out like you used to. All right,

1132
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:28,600
Speaker 1: So let's talk about bro, talk about the transition outside

1133
00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:31,440
Speaker 1: of football. I know for me it was hard as hell, right,

1134
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:35,000
Speaker 1: That's why I kind of have the fall back off NFL.

1135
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:38,440
Speaker 1: You know, you're watching guys fumble the ball, knowing that

1136
00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:41,520
Speaker 1: you know, drop the ball. You could be out there

1137
00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:45,480
Speaker 1: handling your business, but you don't get that opportunity, you know.

1138
00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:49,160
Speaker 1: Just tell me the dynamic of how it changed from

1139
00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:51,360
Speaker 1: you from playing to not playing.

1140
00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:54,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, it changed everything you know as an athlete,

1141
00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:57,240
Speaker 2: both of us as competitors as an athlete and all

1142
00:59:57,320 --> 01:00:02,680
Speaker 2: of us out there right, that's competitors, right, that had dreams, aspirations. Right,

1143
01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:05,080
Speaker 2: when those things are no longer in front of you,

1144
01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:07,720
Speaker 2: you know, you got to figure out like what's next,

1145
01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:11,560
Speaker 2: and for some of us, unfortunately it takes longer than others.

1146
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:11,920
Speaker 3: Right.

1147
01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:15,240
Speaker 1: But at the same time, man, was it was a

1148
01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:17,720
Speaker 1: tough two years. It was a tough two years for me,

1149
01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:18,400
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.

1150
01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:21,680
Speaker 2: And I'm really grateful for you know, the support system

1151
01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:24,040
Speaker 2: that I've had around me. Grateful for you, you know

1152
01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:26,720
Speaker 2: as a brother, right all of the late night talks,

1153
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:30,640
Speaker 2: face times, you know what I mean. I can still

1154
01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:32,560
Speaker 2: remember you coming to the house when you came out

1155
01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:34,640
Speaker 2: here to Florida one time, and you came to the

1156
01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:36,880
Speaker 2: house and we just chopped it up in the driveway

1157
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:38,760
Speaker 2: for like thirty minutes. You know what I'm saying, You

1158
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:41,200
Speaker 2: can't pass on me. And I was like, damn man.

1159
01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:44,080
Speaker 2: And from there we kind of just kind of been building.

1160
01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:46,520
Speaker 2: But those two years were tough, man, trying to figure

1161
01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:48,840
Speaker 2: yourself out, trying to get out into the real world

1162
01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:51,680
Speaker 2: right where you know, the club is not handling everything

1163
01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:58,040
Speaker 2: for you. You know, you're not dedicating sixteen eighteen hours

1164
01:00:58,080 --> 01:01:00,480
Speaker 2: a day to your craft, you know.

1165
01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:03,560
Speaker 1: So it was tough, man. I know you can speak

1166
01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:06,920
Speaker 1: on it as well. Yeah for me, man, it was

1167
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:09,720
Speaker 1: so different from me because I was still young, you know,

1168
01:01:10,040 --> 01:01:13,400
Speaker 1: and it was it was very hardful. I'm not even

1169
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:15,480
Speaker 1: gonna sit in line. You see guys that you know

1170
01:01:15,560 --> 01:01:17,880
Speaker 1: you're better than you know, they still getting opportunities, still

1171
01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:20,200
Speaker 1: getting chances to play, and bro, bro, I'll tell you

1172
01:01:20,240 --> 01:01:22,040
Speaker 1: a funny ass, it's not much funny. This should make

1173
01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:25,720
Speaker 1: you cry, right, bro? I was working out right, and

1174
01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:27,720
Speaker 1: that's my workout. I used to run like a whole

1175
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:31,200
Speaker 1: lap just to warm up. Bruh, A nigga cried a

1176
01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:34,720
Speaker 1: whole lap. I cried the whole lap running like damn

1177
01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:39,200
Speaker 1: like this acting guy like man, make me like find

1178
01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:42,160
Speaker 1: my purpose if it's not football, no more? Like just

1179
01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:46,520
Speaker 1: help me? Right? And you know how it is you

1180
01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:48,840
Speaker 1: go from when you're play you're getting multiple phone calls

1181
01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:51,080
Speaker 1: every day. Oh brother, we're gonna come out that d

1182
01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:56,640
Speaker 1: d DA. We need tickets to nobody's calling you at all? Yeah? Right,

1183
01:01:56,800 --> 01:02:00,320
Speaker 1: And and I don't care what nobody say. I think

1184
01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:03,080
Speaker 1: everyone has went through a depression state in their life.

1185
01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:08,440
Speaker 1: Everyone I did it. I'm talking about you know, get

1186
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:10,600
Speaker 1: getting up out of the bed two o'clock in the morning,

1187
01:02:10,680 --> 01:02:12,320
Speaker 1: go and take a take a ride and cry in

1188
01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:17,120
Speaker 1: a call. You know what I'm saying, because like, what

1189
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:19,360
Speaker 1: is there when you dedicated your whole life to a

1190
01:02:19,400 --> 01:02:25,680
Speaker 1: sport and now you can't even do it no more? Right?

1191
01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:28,560
Speaker 1: And usually when you have life problems, football is the

1192
01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:31,560
Speaker 1: is the getaway. Now you got life problems and fucking

1193
01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:34,920
Speaker 1: football problem. So it's like the ship is two times harder. Right,

1194
01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:40,760
Speaker 1: So I just think me personally, it was the that

1195
01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:44,640
Speaker 1: was the best thing happened for me to guys to

1196
01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:46,360
Speaker 1: take that away from me, because I have to understand,

1197
01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:50,040
Speaker 1: it's the craziest thing. You go from like chasing the

1198
01:02:50,080 --> 01:02:52,120
Speaker 1: dream of loving football to like now it's like, all

1199
01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:55,959
Speaker 1: right the money, Yeah, like everything about the fucking money.

1200
01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:58,600
Speaker 1: And it's it's like and I hate that the game

1201
01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:01,320
Speaker 1: kind of took it away from everything. Right. You go

1202
01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:06,520
Speaker 1: from like I'm trying to get paid to like where, man,

1203
01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:09,440
Speaker 1: it's my dream job and you get to do it

1204
01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:11,960
Speaker 1: every day, every day, right, And I think you kind

1205
01:03:11,960 --> 01:03:15,040
Speaker 1: of misconscrewed and you mess up that whole concept. Right.

1206
01:03:16,040 --> 01:03:18,200
Speaker 1: And you know, just speaking on the depression, brother, you

1207
01:03:18,280 --> 01:03:21,200
Speaker 1: see a lot of young guys losing them lives, losing

1208
01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:26,480
Speaker 1: their lives, like a few this year, yeah, this year.

1209
01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:29,120
Speaker 1: And if you' all there you're going through something, brother,

1210
01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:32,720
Speaker 1: just understand you have family and friends that love you.

1211
01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:37,920
Speaker 1: Just talk to them. Just talk to him. You're not

1212
01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:43,160
Speaker 1: you're not in as batter by yourself. I know several times,

1213
01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:45,240
Speaker 1: but I felt like I was going through my situation

1214
01:03:45,360 --> 01:03:48,760
Speaker 1: and I felt like nobody understand me, right, because you know,

1215
01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:51,360
Speaker 1: we're kind of breaking the generation curses in our family

1216
01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:56,280
Speaker 1: means of dollars, millions of dollars, and we're like the

1217
01:03:56,400 --> 01:03:59,720
Speaker 1: lines you know that everyone call upon when they have issues,

1218
01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:02,920
Speaker 1: But who can we call on when we have our issues? Right?

1219
01:04:04,120 --> 01:04:08,320
Speaker 1: I just think I put everything in to sports right,

1220
01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:12,600
Speaker 1: analysis wise, and when I say that that, that type

1221
01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:16,640
Speaker 1: of adversity is hard, right, and you kind of miss

1222
01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:21,760
Speaker 1: out on your blessings when you thinking about all this

1223
01:04:21,880 --> 01:04:23,960
Speaker 1: could have happened. Right, Oh, I should have did this

1224
01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:26,920
Speaker 1: should Everything is gonna play out as supposed to play out.

1225
01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:29,160
Speaker 1: You're not in control. You're not in control of it, right.

1226
01:04:29,640 --> 01:04:34,360
Speaker 1: Everyone goes through their trials and and the reason why

1227
01:04:34,520 --> 01:04:37,080
Speaker 1: we didn't start this podcast sooner because I was living wrong.

1228
01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:40,000
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think people could admit to that.

1229
01:04:40,120 --> 01:04:42,880
Speaker 1: I could admit to that. Right, you can hinder your

1230
01:04:42,920 --> 01:04:49,240
Speaker 1: own blessings, so by me fucking off fucking around, you know,

1231
01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:52,480
Speaker 1: because guess what when you when you are dained, You

1232
01:04:52,520 --> 01:04:54,000
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, when you favor it, When you

1233
01:04:54,200 --> 01:04:56,760
Speaker 1: favor it, bro, you can't. You can't do worldly things

1234
01:04:56,840 --> 01:04:59,360
Speaker 1: like everybody else doing. You know what I'm saying, the

1235
01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:02,800
Speaker 1: punishment of just ten times harsh.

1236
01:05:03,120 --> 01:05:05,520
Speaker 2: Would you say that the biggest part, one of the

1237
01:05:05,560 --> 01:05:10,200
Speaker 2: biggest parts of maybe leaving the game right is like

1238
01:05:10,320 --> 01:05:11,200
Speaker 2: losing the routine.

1239
01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:14,720
Speaker 1: Yes, like losing the routine of waking up in the morning,

1240
01:05:15,160 --> 01:05:18,680
Speaker 1: being around your brothers. And that's another thing, that being

1241
01:05:18,680 --> 01:05:23,200
Speaker 1: around a group of guys that understand you right, who

1242
01:05:23,280 --> 01:05:26,120
Speaker 1: went to the same routine as you. Yep, you know

1243
01:05:26,320 --> 01:05:29,920
Speaker 1: that can like you miss those you missed those fucking

1244
01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:33,400
Speaker 1: locker room talks, you know what I'm saying, Like real shit,

1245
01:05:33,520 --> 01:05:36,160
Speaker 1: Like that's the shit you missing some shit you just

1246
01:05:36,240 --> 01:05:39,840
Speaker 1: can't get back. And me personally, when I think about

1247
01:05:39,880 --> 01:05:43,880
Speaker 1: adversity in life, and like I said in our refrain,

1248
01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:47,960
Speaker 1: everything in the football where life gets hard, right, and

1249
01:05:48,080 --> 01:05:50,200
Speaker 1: especially when you're trying to do right. It's hard doing

1250
01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:53,720
Speaker 1: the right thing every day. Like we was on Bible

1251
01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:56,760
Speaker 1: tyles last last week, you know, last Wednesday. Bro, it's

1252
01:05:56,880 --> 01:06:03,600
Speaker 1: hard doing the right thing every single day. And don't

1253
01:06:03,680 --> 01:06:05,600
Speaker 1: don't let it fool you. Like some some you have

1254
01:06:05,720 --> 01:06:08,520
Speaker 1: your days were like the devil will touch you, you know,

1255
01:06:08,680 --> 01:06:10,520
Speaker 1: to have you going back to the thinking that was

1256
01:06:10,560 --> 01:06:13,360
Speaker 1: the right thing to do. He tried every day. Bro, listen,

1257
01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:16,440
Speaker 1: He's not gonna come one, two, three, He's gonna come

1258
01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:20,280
Speaker 1: twenty times to stop you from reaching your destination. And

1259
01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:22,040
Speaker 1: and and I go back to the football terms. I

1260
01:06:22,040 --> 01:06:23,920
Speaker 1: always tell people this. I told her to my mother

1261
01:06:23,920 --> 01:06:27,720
Speaker 1: the other day. I think of that, that type of

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01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:32,280
Speaker 1: strategy the devil users. It's like football terms. You know why,

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Speaker 1: you you finally about to reach your destination. You in

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Speaker 1: the raizone, you about to go a touchdown. You said,

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01:06:37,560 --> 01:06:40,960
Speaker 1: I should get harder, get tighter the defenses. That's what

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Speaker 1: That's what the devil do. Right in my heart, the

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01:06:43,960 --> 01:06:47,680
Speaker 1: devil ain't want me here talking about this. If I

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Speaker 1: would have kept living what I was doing, this would

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01:06:50,200 --> 01:06:53,560
Speaker 1: never ever ever happen. So I had to align myself

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Speaker 1: and do right, you know, not just for myself, my kids,

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01:06:59,400 --> 01:07:03,200
Speaker 1: like my family. This is a big example for my sons,

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Speaker 1: like Legacy, you know what I'm saying. Like and recently

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Speaker 1: I just got married, one of the one of the

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Speaker 1: one of the one of the biggest steps I took,

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01:07:10,320 --> 01:07:13,640
Speaker 1: and I had to do it right. You know. I

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01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:16,320
Speaker 1: build my I beild my girl since tenth grade in

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Speaker 1: high school. And you know I didn't I didn't live

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01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:22,560
Speaker 1: my life. I didn't did the crazy things. You know

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01:07:22,600 --> 01:07:28,880
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, College, PHENI, High School, PHENW NFL. It's time.

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Speaker 1: It's time. It's time to live right, live righteous, and

1281
01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:36,280
Speaker 1: just to understand our purpose is bigger than football. I

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01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:38,360
Speaker 1: want you to understand that our purpose is way bigger

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01:07:38,360 --> 01:07:40,840
Speaker 1: than football. Yes, football opened up a lot of doors

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01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:43,920
Speaker 1: for us, right, And this is why I'm proud to

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01:07:43,960 --> 01:07:45,560
Speaker 1: be here on Forth and South with you because I

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01:07:45,680 --> 01:07:48,480
Speaker 1: knew the things you were going through similar to me,

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01:07:49,160 --> 01:07:53,040
Speaker 1: of back finding yourself, almost losing ourselves over a game.

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01:07:54,080 --> 01:07:55,720
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. At the end of the day,

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01:07:55,720 --> 01:07:57,400
Speaker 1: it's just a game. Was Yeah, it's just a game.

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Speaker 2: That game was That game was life to us though,

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01:07:59,280 --> 01:08:01,320
Speaker 2: and that's that's the part of it that made us,

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01:08:01,480 --> 01:08:03,720
Speaker 2: made us great. But you know to all that, I'll

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01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:07,160
Speaker 2: say this to you, man, I, I have a deep

1294
01:08:07,240 --> 01:08:11,120
Speaker 2: admiration for how you've handled this process, how you've you know,

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01:08:11,320 --> 01:08:14,720
Speaker 2: stood up for your family right, become a better man,

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01:08:15,760 --> 01:08:16,640
Speaker 2: continue to walk in.

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Speaker 1: Your faith right.

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01:08:18,120 --> 01:08:21,680
Speaker 2: You know, you you are a testimony to many of

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Speaker 2: us out there beyond the screen, right, and I think

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01:08:24,720 --> 01:08:27,400
Speaker 2: that this show will allow you to highlight that and

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01:08:27,600 --> 01:08:29,880
Speaker 2: use the light that God has blessed you with to

1302
01:08:29,960 --> 01:08:31,559
Speaker 2: be able to inspire more people.

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01:08:31,840 --> 01:08:37,000
Speaker 1: Right. We talked about guys that unfortunately no longer here

1304
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Speaker 1: with us, right.

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01:08:38,080 --> 01:08:41,640
Speaker 2: And I think your story, stories like the one that

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01:08:41,720 --> 01:08:45,280
Speaker 2: you just told, right and the ones that you will

1307
01:08:45,320 --> 01:08:47,960
Speaker 2: tell throughout this show, right, are the stories that are

1308
01:08:48,040 --> 01:08:51,479
Speaker 2: going to be, you know, the sparks to really bind

1309
01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:55,120
Speaker 2: the brotherhood together, because you know, it's nothing like those

1310
01:08:55,160 --> 01:08:58,400
Speaker 2: locker room conversations. There's nothing like you know, it's nothing

1311
01:08:58,560 --> 01:09:03,479
Speaker 2: like you know, you spending eighteen twelve, fourteen hours with

1312
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Speaker 2: your what your guy.

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01:09:04,920 --> 01:09:06,719
Speaker 1: More time than you spend with your family, for sure,

1314
01:09:06,920 --> 01:09:09,080
Speaker 1: more time you spend your family to become your family,

1315
01:09:09,160 --> 01:09:10,080
Speaker 1: they become your family.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: So, man, look, I'm proud of you. Man.

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01:09:13,720 --> 01:09:16,360
Speaker 2: I know I've told you this multiple times, so I

1319
01:09:16,400 --> 01:09:18,639
Speaker 2: guess I'm getting a chance to tell you now on camera.

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Speaker 1: Bro. But I'm extremely proud of you. Man. You are

1321
01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:23,519
Speaker 1: example for a lot of us, even myself. I know

1322
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Speaker 1: I'm older than you.

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Speaker 2: But at the same time, man, seeing you not just

1324
01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:30,760
Speaker 2: talk it, but walk it every day, it means a

1325
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Speaker 2: lot to a lot of people.

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Speaker 1: Man. So just know that we're proud of you, We

1327
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Speaker 1: love you, and we always here for you. You know, listen, like,

1328
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Speaker 1: this is what the show is about.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's about, you know, offering wisdom, you know,

1330
01:09:43,840 --> 01:09:47,120
Speaker 2: talking about our transition, helping people out there behind on

1331
01:09:47,200 --> 01:09:50,400
Speaker 2: the other side, right figure out how they can, you know,

1332
01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:53,439
Speaker 2: maneuver through this crazy world that we that we live in. Right,

1333
01:09:53,520 --> 01:09:55,280
Speaker 2: and I'm just so blessed I get a chance to

1334
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Speaker 2: do it with you, my brother, like for.

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Speaker 1: Sure, and also everything it's pick it up on that,

1336
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Speaker 1: you know DFQ. Don't quit, don't quit. Don't quit. Like say,

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01:10:07,479 --> 01:10:11,040
Speaker 1: if I gave up, yeah, you know, and still living

1338
01:10:11,080 --> 01:10:13,680
Speaker 1: the life I was living, we wouldn't be here, right,

1339
01:10:13,720 --> 01:10:16,680
Speaker 1: I didn't give up. I didn't quit. And uh, this

1340
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Speaker 1: is what the show about. Fourth and South. Two guys

1341
01:10:21,240 --> 01:10:25,840
Speaker 1: from Louisiana, from the South, through and through. Who understands

1342
01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:30,439
Speaker 1: who went to adversity? Yes, sir, Uh, brothers, fathers, you

1343
01:10:30,520 --> 01:10:33,240
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Uncles. Yeah, you know, we everything

1344
01:10:33,520 --> 01:10:37,160
Speaker 1: everything in one So God's playing. God's playing. This is

1345
01:10:37,240 --> 01:10:39,840
Speaker 1: what the show about, man, And I appreciate everybody who's

1346
01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:46,000
Speaker 1: gonna stay tuned, make sure subscribe, like click follow what else?

1347
01:10:46,040 --> 01:10:53,280
Speaker 1: What else donate, donate. Man Porting's out here, man, I'm

1348
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Speaker 1: living for net Job is landy. Thank y'all. Good luck

1349
01:10:56,920 --> 01:11:01,479
Speaker 1: surviving the off season football fans. At first, I was afraid.

1350
01:11:02,080 --> 01:11:06,040
Speaker 1: I was petrified Football's over. It's like a part of

1351
01:11:06,160 --> 01:11:10,080
Speaker 1: me just died inside two hundred thes two foot bowls back.

1352
01:11:10,360 --> 01:11:12,680
Speaker 1: But tonight I won't just cry because.

1353
01:11:12,400 --> 01:11:15,160
Speaker 2: I've got always to play, and that's the plays with

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Speaker 2: hard rock bed I we survived.

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Speaker 1: Offered by the Seminal Try Be Florida. Must be twenty

1356
01:11:20,320 --> 01:11:21,960
Speaker 1: one plus and physically president in Florida to wag your

1357
01:11:22,040 --> 01:11:23,640
Speaker 1: terms of conditional apply. If you or someone you know

1358
01:11:23,680 --> 01:11:25,479
Speaker 1: as a family problem, please call one eight three three

1359
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Speaker 1: play wise