WEBVTT - SYSK Selects: What's the Deal with Crop Circles? 0:00:04.600 --> 0:00:07.240 Hey, everybody, this is Chuck. I hope you had some breakfast, 0:00:07.240 --> 0:00:09.840 cereal and cartoons this morning, and now you're moving on 0:00:09.880 --> 0:00:12.560 to Stuff you Should Know selects. My pick is what's 0:00:12.600 --> 0:00:17.080 the deal with crop Circles? From November two. Uh. This 0:00:17.120 --> 0:00:20.320 is pretty interesting to me because crop circles are clearly 0:00:20.400 --> 0:00:25.000 man made and just h there for Internet weirdos to 0:00:25.040 --> 0:00:27.520 think are made by aliens? And what's better than that? Right? 0:00:28.120 --> 0:00:32.159 Please enjoy? Right now, welcome to Stuff you Should Know, 0:00:32.360 --> 0:00:40.800 a production of five Heart Radios How Stuff Works. Hey, 0:00:40.840 --> 0:00:43.800 and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark. There's Charles W. 0:00:44.080 --> 0:00:48.040 Chuck Bryant and Jerry, which makes this whole thing Stuff 0:00:48.080 --> 0:00:51.560 you Should Know the podcast. That's right, let's go on, 0:00:51.880 --> 0:00:54.480 good man. I got on my snow shoes and I'm 0:00:54.480 --> 0:00:57.959 walking in a wheat field making geometric patterns. Hey, run 0:00:58.000 --> 0:01:02.120 into snowshoes. Well, let's sort of a large snowshoe. I 0:01:02.120 --> 0:01:06.560 could see that though. Yeah, that would definitely work. Yeah right, 0:01:06.680 --> 0:01:08.880 but it's easier you can do something else with your 0:01:08.920 --> 0:01:12.360 hands while you're using this. That's a good point. So, uh, 0:01:12.560 --> 0:01:16.160 did you ever have the led Zeppelin box set? From? 0:01:17.520 --> 0:01:20.280 Uh my college roommate did. Yeah, so you're familiar with 0:01:20.319 --> 0:01:24.480 the crop circles and the suggestion that by led Zeppelin 0:01:24.520 --> 0:01:27.440 that it was there Zeppelin that was responsible for all 0:01:27.480 --> 0:01:29.880 of them. Was that what that was? Yeah? I didn't 0:01:29.880 --> 0:01:31.520 pick up on that because on the cover of the 0:01:31.520 --> 0:01:34.399 box set there's like this awesome, very real life crop 0:01:34.440 --> 0:01:38.720 circle formation and then the shadow of the Zeppelin floating 0:01:38.720 --> 0:01:40.920 over it. Oh, I don't think I noticed the shadow 0:01:40.959 --> 0:01:44.199 every Okay, Yeah, that was the whole thing. Like said, 0:01:44.319 --> 0:01:47.840 led Zeppelin took responsibility for those, right, And by the way, 0:01:47.880 --> 0:01:49.840 we got a lot of responses on how they got 0:01:49.880 --> 0:01:52.240 the name led Zeppelin, So thank you to the hundreds 0:01:52.280 --> 0:01:56.160 of people. Yeah, where the e where the A went. 0:01:56.640 --> 0:01:59.080 They didn't want people to think it was lead Zeppelin 0:01:59.200 --> 0:02:03.000 exactly makes total sense, right, the Zeppelin in front the 0:02:03.080 --> 0:02:06.880 lead Zeppelin. Anyway, it turns out that it's complete fabrication 0:02:06.920 --> 0:02:11.160 that the led Zeppelin Zeppelin was responsible for crop circles. 0:02:11.200 --> 0:02:14.200 But that's one of the few suggestions that have been 0:02:14.200 --> 0:02:19.440 made for what makes crop circles. And this is really 0:02:19.480 --> 0:02:25.360 strange topic, frankly, because it's been out for about a 0:02:25.440 --> 0:02:29.480 quarter of a century. How crop circles are made who 0:02:29.520 --> 0:02:32.079 makes them? And yet there's still a lot of people 0:02:32.639 --> 0:02:38.920 called seriologists after series The Goddess of Agriculture um, who 0:02:39.000 --> 0:02:42.799 are like, no, this this those people, that's the that's 0:02:42.880 --> 0:02:47.239 the whole catch. It's a hoax. They're responsible for crop circles, 0:02:47.240 --> 0:02:51.000 which leaves on accounted for. Yeah. I don't even call 0:02:51.040 --> 0:02:53.480 it a hoax. I just call it art. Well, yeah, 0:02:53.680 --> 0:02:55.960 so I saw somewhere at one point somebody say it's 0:02:56.000 --> 0:03:01.160 the most scientific, most science based art there because the 0:03:01.200 --> 0:03:05.200 stuff that crop circles are made of, a lot of 0:03:05.240 --> 0:03:11.200 them is some really impressive Euclidean geometry. Yeah, some smart 0:03:11.240 --> 0:03:14.400 people are behind these, uh what I like to call art. 0:03:15.600 --> 0:03:17.320 They're not just a bunch of dummies walking around on 0:03:17.360 --> 0:03:20.639 a cornfield. No, but they are people, Yes they are, 0:03:21.000 --> 0:03:23.840 and we've kind of spoiled it. So if you wanted 0:03:23.880 --> 0:03:27.040 to find out who makes crop circles it's art, you 0:03:27.080 --> 0:03:28.880 can turn the episode off. But if you do, you're 0:03:28.880 --> 0:03:31.160 gonna miss out on some kind of some cool interesting 0:03:31.800 --> 0:03:33.960 stuff if you ask me. Yeah, And what I think 0:03:34.080 --> 0:03:36.440 is weird is that despite the fact that it is 0:03:36.840 --> 0:03:39.960 definitely not aliens and all this stuff that people propose, 0:03:40.160 --> 0:03:42.520 we'll get into all that is that even when the 0:03:42.520 --> 0:03:44.520 people came out and said no, we've been making crop 0:03:44.560 --> 0:03:47.120 circles for years, some people like no, no, no, they're 0:03:47.120 --> 0:03:50.680 being paid to say that, Yeah, there's aliens. In fact, 0:03:50.800 --> 0:03:53.400 that's something that you run up against with conspiracy theories. 0:03:53.400 --> 0:03:59.600 Those just admitting that you're responsible, you suggest that you 0:03:59.600 --> 0:04:02.560 you're Yeah, somebody's put you up to admitting it, you're 0:04:02.640 --> 0:04:05.560 it's disinformation basically, and that's what a lot of people 0:04:05.560 --> 0:04:08.400 have said. A lot of people say it's m I five. 0:04:08.520 --> 0:04:10.600 And the reason they say it's m I five is 0:04:10.640 --> 0:04:13.840 because if you start tracing the history of crop circles, 0:04:14.240 --> 0:04:20.560 they originated basically the hoax did um in England, specifically 0:04:20.600 --> 0:04:23.240 in a couple of counties in England. Yeah, I mean 0:04:23.520 --> 0:04:27.799 not only originated, but I think um of all crop 0:04:27.839 --> 0:04:32.719 circles have existed in southern England, even though they're they're 0:04:32.760 --> 0:04:35.400 you know, they've had someone like Japan and the United States, 0:04:35.600 --> 0:04:38.359 some other parts of Europe, but yeah, ninety over in 0:04:38.400 --> 0:04:42.320 southern England. They clearly are inspired in that area to 0:04:42.480 --> 0:04:46.400 undertake the process of circle art exactly for one reason 0:04:46.480 --> 0:04:50.120 or another. Who knows, well, I can tell you how 0:04:50.120 --> 0:04:54.080 it started out yeah, so there crop circles. If you're 0:04:54.080 --> 0:04:59.159 a seriologist, you will point to the sixteenth century maybe 0:04:59.480 --> 0:05:03.080 when somebody he's like, the first what could be described 0:05:03.160 --> 0:05:07.520 as a crop circle is accounted for. Um. I couldn't 0:05:07.560 --> 0:05:10.479 find anything to back that up, but apparently in the 0:05:10.520 --> 0:05:14.400 sixteenth century that's where the first description came from. I 0:05:14.440 --> 0:05:17.839 did find in the seventeenth century, and there's a wood 0:05:17.880 --> 0:05:21.400 cut of something called the mowing Devil, and it's a 0:05:21.600 --> 0:05:24.640 it's a devil, and he's clearly making a crop circle. 0:05:25.120 --> 0:05:28.440 But there's a pretty good explanation for the whole thing. Well, yeah, 0:05:28.480 --> 0:05:31.320 he I don't understand how this became some sort of 0:05:31.480 --> 0:05:35.160 weird pseudo proof that they had crop circles back then, 0:05:35.240 --> 0:05:37.560 because if you look at the wood cut, it is 0:05:37.720 --> 0:05:42.799 satan with a scythe and he is clearly cutting down 0:05:43.920 --> 0:05:48.120 corn or something some wheat harvest. But cutting, yeah, he's not. 0:05:48.160 --> 0:05:51.560 It's not that's a distinction. Crop circles aren't cut. They're like, 0:05:51.800 --> 0:05:54.000 you know, it's a cornstock that has laid down but 0:05:54.120 --> 0:05:57.800 not damaged supposedly, right, they yield the pressure without breaking. 0:05:58.000 --> 0:06:00.880 So this is this is just complete WHOI to me? 0:06:01.120 --> 0:06:04.560 And there's even more so the there's an explanation on 0:06:04.640 --> 0:06:08.520 the wood cut itself. Well, it's a story. Yeah, basically 0:06:08.760 --> 0:06:13.960 a um, a man uh balked at the price that 0:06:14.400 --> 0:06:17.000 he was quoted by a laborer to harvest his grain. 0:06:17.400 --> 0:06:19.400 And the man said, I would rather have the devil 0:06:19.480 --> 0:06:21.960 harvest my grain than you. And so when he woke 0:06:22.040 --> 0:06:24.800 up the next morning, he was quite surprised to find 0:06:24.800 --> 0:06:27.680 that the devil was harvesting his green and he probably 0:06:27.720 --> 0:06:30.080 went to hell for it. But that was the whole 0:06:30.120 --> 0:06:33.320 story behind the mowing devil. If you're a seriologist, this 0:06:33.400 --> 0:06:36.560 is the first evidence of crop circles, which kind of 0:06:36.560 --> 0:06:39.960 says a lot if you ask me. But um, something 0:06:40.000 --> 0:06:42.600 that does kind of pop up that's a little a 0:06:42.600 --> 0:06:46.279 little less easily explained, came along in eighty in the 0:06:46.360 --> 0:06:49.520 issue of In an issue of Nature, there was an 0:06:49.560 --> 0:06:53.920 Englishman named John Rand Capron or Capron, and he was 0:06:53.960 --> 0:06:56.599 from Surrey, and he said that he found a field 0:06:56.600 --> 0:06:59.560 of wheat that appeared to have been knocked about as 0:06:59.560 --> 0:07:05.320 if by wind. Yeah, and they say there's a crop circle. Yeah, 0:07:05.839 --> 0:07:09.800 maybe it's possible. He said that it's to him, he 0:07:09.840 --> 0:07:12.640 thought it was cyclonic wind action. And again we'll get 0:07:12.680 --> 0:07:16.200 into other explanations later, but one of them is that 0:07:16.240 --> 0:07:19.240 they are the result of like a tornadoes or cyclones. Yeah. 0:07:19.320 --> 0:07:21.520 But what what he didn't say was that it was 0:07:21.640 --> 0:07:25.800 like a perfect circle. And this circonference was you know, 0:07:26.040 --> 0:07:28.120 I mean it could have just been a windy spot 0:07:28.120 --> 0:07:32.120 where some stuff was knocked down, you know, right the yeah, exactly. 0:07:32.200 --> 0:07:33.960 He didn't say it was in the shape of an 0:07:33.960 --> 0:07:37.520 Egyptian arc or anything like that, right, or an alien 0:07:37.600 --> 0:07:43.480 smoking pot. That's a real one. That's really um. So 0:07:44.840 --> 0:07:48.200 that those are like the earliest evidence of crop circles. 0:07:48.360 --> 0:07:51.400 And then in the sixties the first modern idea of 0:07:51.400 --> 0:07:55.600 a crop circle came about in Um Australia and there 0:07:55.680 --> 0:07:58.920 was supposedly a depression in a bunch of grass, a 0:07:59.000 --> 0:08:02.840 circular depression, UM, and it had been associated with the 0:08:03.000 --> 0:08:06.200 UFO sighting, and you know, it made the rounds in 0:08:06.240 --> 0:08:08.960 the media and even then a lot of people said 0:08:09.200 --> 0:08:11.840 it was probably a tornado or a cyclone or something 0:08:11.880 --> 0:08:16.880 like that. Um. But there was a dude who happened 0:08:16.920 --> 0:08:20.560 to be in Australia at the time when it was 0:08:20.600 --> 0:08:23.080 being reported on. It was you know, a big hubbub 0:08:23.120 --> 0:08:28.240 and everything, and um his name was Dave Crop circle, 0:08:28.800 --> 0:08:32.960 Dave crop circle, No, I'm sorry. His buddy's name is Dave, 0:08:33.200 --> 0:08:37.080 Doug Bauer, and Doug Bauer when he got back from Australia, 0:08:37.120 --> 0:08:39.240 he was hanging out with a friend of his one 0:08:39.320 --> 0:08:43.040 night in drunk there. They'll just come out and admitute 0:08:43.080 --> 0:08:45.000 they were drunk at the pub and he told his 0:08:45.040 --> 0:08:47.840 buddy about that, and they said, wouldn't that be hilarious 0:08:47.920 --> 0:08:50.480 if we went out and made our own crop circle? 0:08:51.360 --> 0:08:54.840 And Dave said, I think that would be really hilarious 0:08:54.920 --> 0:08:57.400 so much, so let's go do it. So they figured 0:08:57.400 --> 0:08:58.760 out how to do it, and they made the first 0:08:58.760 --> 0:09:02.320 crop circle in nineteen like the first crop circle, the 0:09:02.360 --> 0:09:05.280 first hoax crop circle what you call art was made 0:09:05.280 --> 0:09:09.560 in and um, what's funny about the whole thing is 0:09:09.640 --> 0:09:14.160 they made these things for years, hundreds of them, yes, 0:09:14.280 --> 0:09:20.280 but say the first couple dozen maybe nobody noticed because 0:09:20.320 --> 0:09:22.160 they made them on flat fields. And then they finally 0:09:22.200 --> 0:09:24.440 figured out, why what if we made one on like 0:09:24.440 --> 0:09:28.200 a field that was on an incline. They made that one, 0:09:28.320 --> 0:09:31.520 and all of a sudden, the whole crop circle paranormal 0:09:31.520 --> 0:09:36.240 phenomenon took off like a rocket. Yeah, and people, uh 0:09:36.720 --> 0:09:39.439 caught on obviously, and started making their own crop circles 0:09:39.480 --> 0:09:43.959 all over England UM and all kinds of cool designs UM. 0:09:44.040 --> 0:09:47.000 By the nineteen nineties it was a genuine tourist attraction. 0:09:47.920 --> 0:09:50.920 Even farmers were saying, come to my farm and pay 0:09:50.960 --> 0:09:54.120 me some shillings and come look at my cool crop circle. 0:09:54.240 --> 0:09:57.440 Apparently they were charging to offset the damage under their 0:09:57.440 --> 0:10:00.360 crops by so many people flocking to these farms. Yeah, 0:10:00.400 --> 0:10:02.559 I saw where it could. It didn't damage the crops. 0:10:02.600 --> 0:10:06.560 I just don't see how that's possible. The actual crop 0:10:06.600 --> 0:10:09.280 circle itself. Yeah, yeah, I think it can damage it. 0:10:09.320 --> 0:10:11.360 But the I mean, the hallmark of it is that 0:10:11.440 --> 0:10:14.240 the grain is bent but not broken, So as long 0:10:14.280 --> 0:10:16.280 as it's not broken, there's still a pretty good chance 0:10:16.320 --> 0:10:19.440 it could continue growing or try to grow back upright 0:10:19.520 --> 0:10:22.280 or something. But yeah, I'm sure there's tons of broken 0:10:22.320 --> 0:10:24.600 grain in a crop circle. Yeah, I mean, I guess 0:10:24.640 --> 0:10:26.960 we should talk about the design. Say, most of the 0:10:27.000 --> 0:10:29.480 times are circular, but not always. They're all sorts of 0:10:29.520 --> 0:10:33.240 different shapes now, but they started out as circular UM 0:10:33.320 --> 0:10:37.200 either singles or doubles or triples or quadruples, and sometimes 0:10:37.200 --> 0:10:41.640 they're connected, sometimes they're not um. They are usually bent 0:10:41.840 --> 0:10:45.880 in one way for a while, so either laying down 0:10:45.960 --> 0:10:49.560 clockwise or counterclockwise, or if they get super crafty, they 0:10:49.559 --> 0:10:54.480 can be clockwise for ten feet and then counterclockwise. And 0:10:55.120 --> 0:10:58.080 from the sky you see these different kind of swirly patterns, 0:10:58.840 --> 0:11:01.720 like a layered swirly pa. It's very impressive. Yeah, and 0:11:01.720 --> 0:11:04.520 and again this started really kind of to take off 0:11:04.520 --> 0:11:08.840 in the eighties and throughout the nineties. Um and as 0:11:08.920 --> 0:11:11.400 they became more and more popular and more and more 0:11:12.000 --> 0:11:15.600 widespread in the media and um among people who watched 0:11:15.600 --> 0:11:19.360 the X Files, and again that the nineties were a 0:11:19.720 --> 0:11:27.120 deeply paranoid decade because of the impending millennial millennium. Um So, 0:11:27.320 --> 0:11:30.440 I think that kind of really helped the popularity of 0:11:30.440 --> 0:11:33.200 crop circles explode because there are a lot of people 0:11:33.200 --> 0:11:36.439 are like, these are signs from aliens. Are either alien landing, 0:11:37.000 --> 0:11:41.920 like alien spacecraft landing and leaving these impressions right, or 0:11:41.960 --> 0:11:44.760 else they're leaving They're leaving science for us. There's even 0:11:44.800 --> 0:11:48.600 a movie called Science, a terrible, terrible movie, um starring 0:11:48.640 --> 0:11:52.439 Mel Gibson about this very thing. Um So, there is 0:11:52.480 --> 0:11:53.960 a lot of people who bought into it like that, 0:11:54.040 --> 0:11:58.560 and as as the awareness of crop circles grew, so 0:11:58.679 --> 0:12:00.640 did the complexity of them to where you did have 0:12:00.679 --> 0:12:02.880 people who were sitting down and coming up with like 0:12:03.000 --> 0:12:06.960 really incredible math and then going out and doing it 0:12:07.280 --> 0:12:11.280 in a crop circle form. Yeah, and some people uh 0:12:11.679 --> 0:12:15.640 use that like it's it's this one is exactly four 0:12:15.679 --> 0:12:18.960 times larger than the one below it and as evidence 0:12:19.040 --> 0:12:22.600 that it's something extraordinary and not just people who are 0:12:22.640 --> 0:12:26.280 good at figuring out design and geometry and math. There's 0:12:26.320 --> 0:12:30.520 there's specifically a man who kind of um uh I 0:12:30.559 --> 0:12:35.280 guess provided a stumbling block to the debunking of um 0:12:35.800 --> 0:12:39.160 crop circles. His name is Gerald S. Hawkins, and he 0:12:39.480 --> 0:12:44.239 is a retired astronomer who became a crop circle enthusiast, 0:12:44.760 --> 0:12:49.120 and he used his math skills to analyze crop circles 0:12:49.200 --> 0:12:54.160 and basically said, I've discovered a new kind of Euclidean 0:12:54.200 --> 0:13:01.720 geometry in crop circles, which implies that there was some 0:13:02.000 --> 0:13:05.760 non human agency creating crop circles, something advanced beyond the 0:13:05.800 --> 0:13:10.240 scope of human understanding. Because if this incredibly brilliant mathematician 0:13:10.760 --> 0:13:14.439 could learn something from the something new, and that implied 0:13:14.480 --> 0:13:17.880 that something extraterrestrial was behind him. While his findings have 0:13:17.960 --> 0:13:22.400 been um challenge time and time again. So he believed 0:13:22.400 --> 0:13:24.200 that he believed it was I thought he said he 0:13:24.240 --> 0:13:29.040 was debunking. No, no, he he confounded debunking. He created this, 0:13:30.080 --> 0:13:33.520 he did bunk um. And the thing is the language 0:13:33.520 --> 0:13:37.120 he's using, the math he's using is real math. So 0:13:37.160 --> 0:13:38.960 the average person can't come in and look at this 0:13:39.000 --> 0:13:40.440 and be like this is wrong for this and this 0:13:40.480 --> 0:13:43.960 reason and this reason, um and then his I think 0:13:44.040 --> 0:13:47.239 the real giveaway, though, is his work is not discussed 0:13:47.760 --> 0:13:51.959 at all in what appears to be normal um academic 0:13:52.200 --> 0:13:56.560 math forums. It's just it doesn't exist. It doesn't like, 0:13:56.640 --> 0:13:59.040 it doesn't get any recognition. Even though he published his 0:13:59.040 --> 0:14:02.839 initial findings in a respected math journal, it hasn't. If 0:14:02.880 --> 0:14:06.200 this guy had discovered a new kind of Euclidean geometry, 0:14:06.559 --> 0:14:10.160 it would be in textbook revolutionary. Yeah, and it's just 0:14:10.200 --> 0:14:12.880 not discussed. So I think that in and of itself 0:14:12.960 --> 0:14:17.440 is a pretty good example of how seriologists butt up 0:14:17.480 --> 0:14:20.760 against skeptics, and and the whole thing is continued. Somebody 0:14:20.800 --> 0:14:24.280 will present a body of evidence and then nobody is 0:14:24.320 --> 0:14:27.040 either capable or willing to just go to the trouble 0:14:27.040 --> 0:14:30.040 of debunking it. Yeah, and these things like this article 0:14:30.160 --> 0:14:32.320 is I don't know if I can recommend people read 0:14:32.400 --> 0:14:34.200 this one. It's it seems like it was written by 0:14:34.200 --> 0:14:36.680 a believer. Yeah, it was pretty bad. Um. But one 0:14:36.720 --> 0:14:39.600 thing has struck me as odd in this article at least, 0:14:39.680 --> 0:14:43.680 is um. These things are usually like they're big, you know, 0:14:44.000 --> 0:14:47.040 there're several hundred feet right, maybe a hundred feet it says, 0:14:47.080 --> 0:14:51.120 sometimes they range from several inches. Yeah, I don't understand that. 0:14:51.120 --> 0:14:54.840 That's that's called like stepping on a piece of wheat, Like, 0:14:54.880 --> 0:14:56.880 how can a crop stork will be several inches across? 0:14:57.000 --> 0:14:59.080 There was some stuff in here that I couldn't find 0:14:59.160 --> 0:15:03.680 any support for or anywhere else. Like, here's a sentence 0:15:03.720 --> 0:15:08.840 for you under the title who makes crop circles? The 0:15:08.880 --> 0:15:11.240 first sentence is the answer of who or what is 0:15:11.280 --> 0:15:14.080 creating these crop formations is not an easy one to answer? 0:15:14.320 --> 0:15:19.080 Is Actually, it's absolutely easy to answer. There's another sentence 0:15:19.120 --> 0:15:22.960 to Um. Even with crop circle makers claiming responsibility for 0:15:23.040 --> 0:15:26.080 hundreds of designs, hoaxes can't account for all the thousands 0:15:26.080 --> 0:15:30.720 of crop circles created. Yeah again, hoaxes can account for 0:15:30.800 --> 0:15:33.840 every single one of the crop circles ever created. Yeah, 0:15:35.040 --> 0:15:37.000 I was really disappointed with this. I put in for 0:15:37.040 --> 0:15:40.600 an article update. Oh yeah, good. All right, so we'll 0:15:40.600 --> 0:15:43.600 talk about a little more about where these are located 0:15:43.600 --> 0:15:59.040 and what kind of fields are used after this break. 0:15:59.200 --> 0:16:00.960 All right, So you mentioned in a couple of counties 0:16:00.960 --> 0:16:05.320 in England, Hampshire and Wiltshire or where most of these are, 0:16:05.840 --> 0:16:08.160 which kind of makes sense if people are saying he 0:16:08.360 --> 0:16:10.640 may to built some crop circles. Oh yeah, how do 0:16:10.680 --> 0:16:13.000 you do that? Right? Here's how you do it. Oh cool, 0:16:13.040 --> 0:16:16.120 I'll go do one right. You know, it's localized for 0:16:16.160 --> 0:16:18.440 the most part. And the reason it's localized there is 0:16:18.480 --> 0:16:22.160 that's where Dave and Doug lived exactly. That's where they live. 0:16:22.280 --> 0:16:27.480 That's where the crop circles started. So yes, they were, Um, 0:16:27.520 --> 0:16:31.960 they were concentrated there. The other thing, though, unfortunately, is 0:16:32.000 --> 0:16:36.920 that's where stonehenges. Yeah. So a lot of people are like, sure, 0:16:37.360 --> 0:16:40.320 Dave and Doug lived there, Who cares? They were put 0:16:40.400 --> 0:16:42.000 up to it, saying that they did it by m 0:16:42.040 --> 0:16:47.600 I five. The real story is that Stonehenge is right there. Yeah. 0:16:47.720 --> 0:16:50.520 All kinds of fields can be used, um for this art, 0:16:51.200 --> 0:16:56.880 corn oat, barley, tobacco, weeds. Um. I like the corn ones. 0:16:57.040 --> 0:16:59.000 I think that that makes a nice canvas. I don't 0:16:59.040 --> 0:17:01.400 know that I've seen a corn one. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:17:01.400 --> 0:17:02.920 I like the corn ones. Well I think they were 0:17:02.920 --> 0:17:06.920 corn and not signs, right right, surrounded by corn. I 0:17:07.560 --> 0:17:10.399 tried to make myself go to sleep. I wouldn't allow 0:17:10.400 --> 0:17:12.720 my hip for campus to form memories of that movie. 0:17:13.760 --> 0:17:16.000 Uh so, I guess we should cover some of the 0:17:16.000 --> 0:17:17.880 theories because we covered like a big foot and other 0:17:17.920 --> 0:17:22.080 things that aren't real to um so, so here's what 0:17:22.160 --> 0:17:27.280 seriologists believe. Um we mentioned that it's an alien calling card. 0:17:27.320 --> 0:17:31.800 Perhaps a lot of eyewitness reports supposedly say, oh I 0:17:31.840 --> 0:17:34.000 saw some I heard some strange noises, I saw some 0:17:34.080 --> 0:17:38.720 weird lights. There's a fair famous video called the Oliver's 0:17:38.760 --> 0:17:42.600 Castle video where you see these strange lights above the 0:17:42.640 --> 0:17:47.359 field and you actually see the crop circle on video form, 0:17:47.359 --> 0:17:49.440 it's a field and then it just depresses into a 0:17:49.480 --> 0:17:52.560 crop circle. You've seen this, Oh yeah, it's on YouTube. 0:17:53.280 --> 0:17:56.160 But that guy who made that video came out and said, 0:17:56.320 --> 0:18:00.000 here's how I did that. It's uh, these computer program 0:18:00.160 --> 0:18:04.480 ms and it's paint and um it's all fake. But 0:18:04.680 --> 0:18:07.360 some people say no, no, no, no no. That guy 0:18:07.440 --> 0:18:09.480 was paid off to say that, or m I five 0:18:09.520 --> 0:18:12.440 kidnapped his family and made him say it. But it's 0:18:12.440 --> 0:18:14.639 I mean, it's very cool looking. But that is the 0:18:15.280 --> 0:18:18.080 you know. One of the points that UM rational people 0:18:18.160 --> 0:18:20.080 point to is like, if these things are being made, 0:18:20.320 --> 0:18:25.360 why isn't there a single image anywhere of it happening? Right, 0:18:26.040 --> 0:18:29.639 Because cameras are ubiquitous video cameras, people look for this stuff. 0:18:29.840 --> 0:18:32.400 They camp out in fields trying to get those images. Well, yeah, 0:18:32.440 --> 0:18:35.359 there was a very famous um operation by a group 0:18:35.400 --> 0:18:39.440 of seriologists who camped out at a field um for 0:18:39.520 --> 0:18:42.439 several like a week or two I believe, back in 0:18:42.480 --> 0:18:47.360 the eighties or nineties, and apparently not only did no 0:18:48.000 --> 0:18:52.840 crop circles form during the time they were camped out 0:18:53.080 --> 0:18:56.120 in that area, none didn't all of England during that 0:18:56.160 --> 0:18:58.840 time that they were. They publicized that they were camping out, 0:18:59.320 --> 0:19:02.080 and then right in the operation ended, a crop circle 0:19:02.119 --> 0:19:04.600 popped up, like I think a couple of football fields 0:19:04.600 --> 0:19:07.080 away from where they've been campused. Because Doug in what 0:19:07.200 --> 0:19:09.640 was his name, Dave Dave were like, all right, they're 0:19:09.680 --> 0:19:12.399 gone exactly, let's go mess with him. Another one is 0:19:12.440 --> 0:19:15.520 that UM, a lot of people say that, uh, there's 0:19:15.600 --> 0:19:21.600 this um, this plasma that can form ionized wind basically, yeah, 0:19:21.600 --> 0:19:25.000 the plasma vortex theory, and and that it forms a cyclone. 0:19:25.160 --> 0:19:29.959 It's cyclonic, which means that it moves clockwise, I believe, 0:19:30.800 --> 0:19:33.879 or counterclockwise, one of the two their cyclonic and anti cyclonic. 0:19:34.480 --> 0:19:39.360 Whichever way that they said the the cyclone rotates the 0:19:39.359 --> 0:19:42.240 the dog and Dave started doing crop circles that rotated 0:19:42.280 --> 0:19:44.440 the other way. Then when they were like, yeah, there's 0:19:44.480 --> 0:19:49.120 anti cyclones, people started making square ones. So every time, 0:19:49.240 --> 0:19:53.560 like there's been a real um tug of war playfulness 0:19:53.640 --> 0:19:57.840 between people popping up in the media experts on crop 0:19:57.920 --> 0:20:01.560 circles saying something and the people making the crop circles 0:20:01.680 --> 0:20:05.119 um doing the opposite of what those people just said 0:20:05.640 --> 0:20:08.840 to prove them wrong with their crop circles. Right after that, Yeah, 0:20:08.840 --> 0:20:11.600 I think the English have a like with banks, you know. 0:20:11.720 --> 0:20:15.639 I think there's a undercurrent in England of like cheeky 0:20:16.160 --> 0:20:20.680 mess with the establishment sort of. Yeah, subverse of art 0:20:20.760 --> 0:20:23.960 and hoaxes and pranks, and it seems like I admire anything. 0:20:24.040 --> 0:20:27.560 It's kind of neat. Another theory is that down draft 0:20:27.600 --> 0:20:30.560 from like a helicopter and airplane, a small airplane might 0:20:30.600 --> 0:20:34.919 push it down into these perfectly shaped geometric patterns. But 0:20:35.280 --> 0:20:38.000 they've tried to recreate that, and of course that's not possible. No, 0:20:38.160 --> 0:20:40.840 it's not possible, but that is a theory. Again, there's 0:20:40.920 --> 0:20:44.600 the the cyclone theory. Um. This was another thing in 0:20:44.600 --> 0:20:47.800 this article that got me. Probably the most scientific theory 0:20:47.800 --> 0:20:50.680 says that crop circles are created by small currents of swirling, 0:20:50.760 --> 0:20:54.520 ring wind called vortices. That's not the most scientific theory. 0:20:54.560 --> 0:20:58.120 The most scientific theories that humans are making the crops circles. 0:20:58.119 --> 0:21:00.760 Like what is going on with this article. It's just 0:21:01.320 --> 0:21:04.159 whacky to me, But that is a theory. That's a 0:21:04.240 --> 0:21:06.760 theory that some people put out. They say, um, when 0:21:06.800 --> 0:21:09.879 the when that um crop circle in the sixties in 0:21:09.920 --> 0:21:13.400 Australia was created, a lot of people said, oh, it's 0:21:13.440 --> 0:21:17.840 a cyclone. They call it a willy nilly. That was 0:21:17.880 --> 0:21:22.680 my Australian accent to know, they call it a willie willie. Yeah. Um, 0:21:23.160 --> 0:21:26.760 And that was something that they said that it was possible. 0:21:26.760 --> 0:21:28.720 It was that. They also said it could be a 0:21:28.760 --> 0:21:31.560 lot of things. Probably wasn't a UFO, but that win 0:21:31.720 --> 0:21:34.400 theory has been around for a very long time. Uh. 0:21:34.400 --> 0:21:37.320 And a guy named Dr Terence Meaden, who's from the 0:21:37.359 --> 0:21:43.959 Tornado and Storm Research Organization in England. Yeah, he says that, Um, 0:21:44.040 --> 0:21:47.359 there's this thing called the plasma vortex theory. He says 0:21:47.400 --> 0:21:51.960 that dust particles get caught in charged air that's spinning 0:21:52.560 --> 0:21:55.720 and not only can they make crop circles these, this 0:21:55.960 --> 0:22:00.520 dust can glow and that accounts for the lights. There's 0:22:00.560 --> 0:22:08.920 the UFO. So he's using pseudoscience to debunk even further pseudoscience. Yeah, 0:22:09.080 --> 0:22:12.520 I'm surprised it doesn't say Doctor Terrence Meeting, formerly of 0:22:12.640 --> 0:22:19.520 the Tornado and Storm Research right. Electromagnetic radiation is another theory. Um. 0:22:19.680 --> 0:22:23.960 Supposedly there have been strong magnetic fields measured inside crop 0:22:24.000 --> 0:22:27.679 circles and people that go to visit them report feeling 0:22:27.960 --> 0:22:32.280 tingling sensations all over their body. Um. I think this 0:22:32.440 --> 0:22:35.000 is explained as easy as if you get someone that 0:22:35.040 --> 0:22:38.840 believes in a electromagnetic radiation of a crop circle and 0:22:38.840 --> 0:22:41.000 stick them in the middle of one, they're gonna feel 0:22:41.040 --> 0:22:44.720 a tinkling sensation. That was another thing that I ran into. 0:22:44.760 --> 0:22:49.000 I couldn't find any um evidence to back that statement up, Like, 0:22:49.080 --> 0:22:55.000 who's finding electromagnetic radiation in these these fields and is 0:22:55.040 --> 0:22:59.680 it being are they are they reproducible? The findings um. 0:22:59.800 --> 0:23:02.880 They was another crop circle called the Julius set It's 0:23:02.880 --> 0:23:06.280 a fractal. Yeah, it's pretty cool. It's amazing from what 0:23:06.320 --> 0:23:08.199 I could find. It's the largest ever. It was like, 0:23:08.359 --> 0:23:13.520 um three hundred meters nine hundred feet in diameter. That's enormous, 0:23:13.640 --> 0:23:17.160 and it's four hundred and nine circles. Um. Just basically 0:23:17.160 --> 0:23:21.719 look up the Julius set Um. It's very awesome. But 0:23:21.880 --> 0:23:24.720 it was right next to Stonehenge. Like, there's plenty of 0:23:24.880 --> 0:23:28.240 images of this crop circle with Stonehenge in the background, 0:23:28.640 --> 0:23:32.400 and apparently a lot of women who went to visit 0:23:32.480 --> 0:23:36.679 it um found that their menstrual cycles sync up, and 0:23:36.720 --> 0:23:39.159 then some women who had already been through menopaud started 0:23:39.200 --> 0:23:43.400 menstruating again. Both are things that can happen, can they 0:23:43.520 --> 0:23:48.359 without you know, aliens taking part? Did that happen? Though? Like? 0:23:48.440 --> 0:23:51.200 Who who documented this? This is the thing Like people 0:23:51.240 --> 0:23:53.879 are just saying stuff and there's you can say whatever 0:23:53.920 --> 0:23:57.760 you want and it doesn't it doesn't count necessarily, at 0:23:57.800 --> 0:24:00.520 least not if you're trying to explain something thing. Yeah, 0:24:00.560 --> 0:24:02.600 I think both of those things can happen. Like I'm 0:24:02.640 --> 0:24:04.360 a forty and you know, like I think there are 0:24:04.400 --> 0:24:07.920 limits to science, and there's stuff that exists beyond sciences 0:24:07.960 --> 0:24:11.600