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Speaker 1: We have two Americas.

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Speaker 2: So let's talk about how we deal with that, our

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Speaker 2: long term prospects, what's happening in the Supreme Court, all

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Speaker 3: Right, Let's have a talk. I brought up I brought

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Speaker 2: Question a bit yesterday online, So let's bring it up

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Speaker 2: to you right now.

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Speaker 1: It's just you going to be talking here.

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Speaker 2: Currently, our current status as a country is we have

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Speaker 2: two major systems of transportation in the United States of America,

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Speaker 2: our roads in the airport.

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Speaker 1: Okay, we also have.

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Speaker 2: Two major political parties. If you belong to another one,

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Speaker 2: that's fine, good for you. But Republicans and Democrats. We

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Speaker 2: know that that's who's going to hold power in the country,

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Speaker 2: one of the two. So one of the two political

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Speaker 2: parties in the country has chosen to effectively shut down

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Speaker 2: one of the two transportation systems in the country. And

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Speaker 2: they've chosen to do this because they don't want illegals

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Speaker 2: deported from the country. Now, what does that mean for

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Speaker 2: the country's future. I don't mean next year. I understand

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Speaker 2: that the change is slow. I get that, but I

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Speaker 2: have children, Lord William, They'll have children one day if

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Speaker 2: they want them, and their children will have children. So

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Speaker 2: let's go to that generation my great great grandchildren. Are

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Speaker 2: they going to have a United States of America if

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Speaker 2: this situation continues, If we have fifty percent of the

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Speaker 2: political parties essentially operating as terrorists working against the United

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Speaker 2: You can't continue like this. Okay, so that's bad, it's dark,

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Speaker 2: it's ugly.

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Speaker 1: I got all that. But let's talk about.

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Speaker 2: This dealing with that reality. How do we deal with

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Speaker 2: that reality. I'm going to play you something. And I

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Speaker 2: know jakeem Jeffries is easy to make fun of. I

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Speaker 2: just don't think he's very intelligent. I used to think

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Speaker 2: I thought, well, he's Nancy Pelosi's hand picked successor. Surely

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Speaker 2: this guy's pretty switched on in some way, right, But

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Speaker 1: However, that moron is likely to be the.

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Speaker 2: Speaker of the House after the midterm election. So this

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Speaker 2: person you're about to hear from a moron, yes, but

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Speaker 1: In this country hereious.

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Speaker 4: The last thing that the American people need are for

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Speaker 4: untrained ICE agents to be deployed at airports all across

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Speaker 4: We've already seen how ICE conducts itself. These are untrained

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Speaker 5: Okay, so.

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Speaker 1: That's where we are. It's ugly.

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Speaker 2: Future prospects are ugly, but that doesn't help you deal

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Speaker 2: with today, your children deal with today.

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Speaker 1: What do we do about that?

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Speaker 2: Beyond the political activism part of which we can get to,

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Speaker 2: But what do we do about that? First we have

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Speaker 2: to acknowledge the reality of history. We currently have two

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Speaker 2: different countries. We already do. I know, there hasn't been

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Speaker 2: some praise God's civil war, which would be terrible where

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Speaker 2: I'm talking about a modern one that actually ends up

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Speaker 1: I understand all.

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Speaker 2: That, but we do have two separate countries. Now we do.

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Speaker 2: And if you don't believe that, I would highly recommend

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Speaker 2: for the happiness of you, your children, their children after them,

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Speaker 2: if it is possible, maybe it's time to start making

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Speaker 2: Keep all the foreigners in the country. We'll shut down

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Speaker 1: That's the that's the Democrat Party.

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Speaker 2: Now, well, remember that party controls completely several states in

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Speaker 2: the United States of America, California, New York, Washington. Will

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Speaker 2: controls those states top to bottom. And now there are

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Speaker 1: There used to be.

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Speaker 2: There used to be because sane people would only let

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Speaker 2: guard reels are gone. The Democrat voter is now fully insane.

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Speaker 2: And what's more, the Democrat voter demands that insanity out

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Speaker 2: of America, you'll never know it. They can't operate that way.

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Speaker 2: If you don't believe me, I would like to introduce

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Speaker 2: you to United States Senator from Arizona, Christen Cinema.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's right.

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Speaker 2: She's no longer a United States Senator from Arizona because

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Speaker 2: she tried to act in a relatively saying manner, not

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Speaker 2: Boo Boo primaried and gone immediately. The Democrat voter now

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Speaker 2: demands this, and so the Democrat voter in a blue area,

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Speaker 1: Will continue to demand.

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Speaker 2: That your life get worse every single day. The Democrat

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Speaker 2: voter will demand it. And now the Democrat politicians. This

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Speaker 2: is Kathy Hope, governor of New York. They're stuck on

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Speaker 6: And being conscious of the facts that I need people

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Speaker 6: who are high net worth to support the generous social

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Speaker 6: programs that we want to have in our state. Right now,

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Speaker 6: there are some patriotic millionaires who stepped up. Okay, cut

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Speaker 6: me the checks. I mean, just if you want to

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Speaker 1: You notice the keywords she used in that thing.

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Speaker 2: Captives, She essentially said, we thought they were captives. That's

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Speaker 2: how communists think about you. That's how they've always treated

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Speaker 2: and abuse you to no end. And it's not just

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Speaker 2: what tax you hear about this awful, awful story. Eighteen

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Speaker 2: year old girl Sheridan Gorman what's her name? Gunned down

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Speaker 2: by an illegal from Venezuela, surprise, surprise and illegal released

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Speaker 2: Would you like to hear how the politicians in Chicago

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Speaker 2: respond to a horror like this. Would you like to

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Speaker 2: hear the lack of guard rails now in Blue America?

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Speaker 1: Well, here's what they said.

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Speaker 7: The kids were out doing normal, normal things people do

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Speaker 7: been a wrong place, wrong time, running into a person

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Speaker 7: at the end of the year unintentionally.

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Speaker 2: Get out, right, if you can, get out. The country's

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Speaker 2: already split. Get out all that may have made you uncomfortable,

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Speaker 2: but I am right. We'll talk to Brandy Cruise about

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Speaker 2: Antifa in a moment before we talk of brandy. Let

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Speaker 1: We'll be back.

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Speaker 2: Well, nobody ever goes to jail, right, But that's not

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Speaker 2: in Antifa going to jail?

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Speaker 8: It's the first such conviction after the federal government decided

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Speaker 8: to label Antifa a terror organization. And essentially they're accused

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Speaker 1: But what do they want? Who are these people?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, So I've been covering Antifa for a long time.

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Speaker 8: I was a mainstream journalist. I was on TV in

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Speaker 2: God have mercy.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Brandy, come back soon, come back soon. That was

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Speaker 2: Sixteen years old man, deeply, deeply evil. Communists are of

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Speaker 2: entirely on their terms in order to get Ukraine funding.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 10: Well, I mean, Chris, that's been a failed play for

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Speaker 10: twenty years. So you are right that that has been

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Speaker 10: the Democratic strategy for thirty years maybe, and it has

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Speaker 10: failed to deliver for the people we care about most,

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Speaker 10: to the undocumented Americans that are in this country, for

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Speaker 10: the people we care about most, the undocumented Americans that

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Speaker 10: are in this country, for.

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Speaker 1: The people we care about most.

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Speaker 2: It is pretty startling. Not just the Democrats say these

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Speaker 2: things on a regular basis, but they say these things

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Speaker 2: without any fear of losing the next election. They'll stare

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Speaker 2: right in the camera. They'll say we care about them

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Speaker 2: the most. They'll tell you people from Haiti built this country.

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Speaker 2: Immigrants built this over and over and over again. And

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Speaker 2: it's not just that they say it with their friends

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Speaker 2: behind closed doors. They'll stare right in the camera and

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Speaker 2: say it and they know they won't pay a penalty.

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Speaker 2: What does that say about us? Joining me now? Aaron McIntyre,

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Speaker 2: host of The Wonderful Arn McIntyre show Arren, I don't

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Speaker 2: know what shocks me more a slimy little weasel like

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Speaker 2: Chris Murphy's saying that, or the fact that he knows

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Speaker 2: he is not going to pay for that at all.

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Speaker 2: That's how this is how democracy works. Ultimately, you are

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Speaker 2: just counting heads, you're getting votes, and so if you

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Speaker 2: are a party that realizes it can no longer really

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Speaker 2: govern the current majority of Americans, the thing to do

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Speaker 2: is to replace the Americans with someone who will vote

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Speaker 2: for you. The Democrats have had this project for a decade.

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Speaker 2: They've been gloating over and over again about how the

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Speaker 2: demographics of the United States are changing, about how all

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Speaker 2: these immigrants are coming in and our natural Democrat voters.

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Speaker 2: No matter how many times we hear Republicans tell us

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Speaker 2: that for some reason, the newest batch will be natural Conservatives,

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Speaker 2: the truth is that immigrants vote overwhelmingly for Democrats, that

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Speaker 2: non white populations vote overwhelmingly for Democrats, and they're certainly

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Speaker 2: aware of that. So their whole goal is to get

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Speaker 2: as many of these people into the country as possible,

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Speaker 2: and the more they succeed about that, the more they

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Speaker 2: can be honest about that.

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Speaker 9: They don't have to lie anymore. They don't have to

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Speaker 9: play the game or put out any other narrative, because

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Speaker 9: ultimately they are moving people into the country who will

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Speaker 9: vote for them along the very lines they are announcing.

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Speaker 9: So why hide the ball once you've completed the operation?

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Speaker 2: Arn Why don't Democrat voters care about that? I'm talking

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Speaker 2: about the American ones.

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Speaker 9: Because a lot of them agree increasingly that the United

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Speaker 9: States is not really a nation. It doesn't deserve to

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Speaker 9: be a sovereign nation where citizens of the world were globalists,

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Speaker 9: and ultimately the United States is just as valuable as

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Speaker 9: in the other nation. Why shouldn't you bring many people here?

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Speaker 9: The Democratic Party is more or less a coalition of

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Speaker 9: people who hate the United States and the people of

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Speaker 9: the United States. So it's not terribly shocking that a

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Speaker 9: large number of people who've committed themselves to that ideological

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Speaker 9: axis are ultimately fine with the idea that if their

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Speaker 9: neighbor gets swopped out, it's not going to be a

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Speaker 9: big deal, because they never think it's going to happen

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Speaker 9: to them. It's not going to happen to their neighborhood.

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Speaker 9: I'm sure you remember the Martha's Vineyard stud where rod is.

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Speaker 9: They had to send people to market to the vineyard.

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Speaker 9: They disappeared immediately. The Liberals know that they're not going

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Speaker 9: to have to live next to their new voters. It's

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Speaker 9: going to be those stupid Republicans who have their states

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Speaker 9: flooded with.

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Speaker 3: Them, all right.

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Speaker 2: Arn that brings me to my second favorite punching bag,

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Speaker 2: the GOP. What you just said, certainly, statistically about foreigners

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Speaker 2: and how they vote when they get here illegally or legally,

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Speaker 2: is it's just a mathematical fact.

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Speaker 1: It can't be argued against.

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Speaker 2: So why do we have so many Republicans in Washington,

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Speaker 2: d c. Who still try to give these people amnesty.

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Speaker 2: They'll stand up and stare right in the camera and

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Speaker 2: they'll talk about how wonderful legal immigration is, over and

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Speaker 2: over and over again. The math doesn't lie. Aron, If

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Speaker 2: you're a Republican, why would you argue against your own future?

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Speaker 9: Because democracy is fake? I mean, that really is the

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Speaker 9: only way you can explain the behavior. Right if you

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Speaker 9: had a actual opposition party, if the purpose of the

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Speaker 9: GOP was to fight for control of the country, as

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Speaker 9: you're saying, then the only thing they should be doing

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Speaker 9: is limiting immigration. That makes perfect sense. Again, from just

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Speaker 9: the raw data, we know that more immigrants coming into

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Speaker 9: this country means the GOP loses power. So from a

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Speaker 9: pure political standpoint, there's simply no way you would allow this,

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Speaker 9: And so the only explanation can be the GOP ultimately

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Speaker 9: is not trying to win power. That is literally the

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Speaker 9: only explanation that makes sense now. I think another big

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Speaker 9: part of this is the fear of being called racist.

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Speaker 9: Whether we like it or not, that word soul holds

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Speaker 9: incredible power inside our society, and anybody who gets it

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Speaker 9: leveled at them feels like they need to panic, they

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Speaker 9: need to run, They have to make some kind of

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Speaker 9: excuse to show that ultimately they are not the big

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Speaker 9: evil man that they're being called. And so many people

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Speaker 9: inside the Republican Party, and many even Republican voters are

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Speaker 9: still very worried about this charge and will go out

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Speaker 9: of their way to look as if they are ultimately

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Speaker 9: trying to seek the approval of different minorities inside the country.

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Speaker 9: So I think there is a genuine year of being

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Speaker 9: labeled racist. But I think there's also simple fact that

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Speaker 9: the GOP never really believes that it's going to rule

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Speaker 9: this country in any real sense. All they want to

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Speaker 9: do is hold on to power in their areas and

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Speaker 9: manage their constituencies collect those checks.

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Speaker 2: All right on, as long as we're talking about every

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Speaker 2: dark thing possible. I said something publicly yesterday loudly, and

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Speaker 2: you echoed it and gave your own take on it.

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Speaker 2: Just from a macro point of view, we currently have

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Speaker 2: a transportation system, one of the two major transportation systems

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Speaker 2: of the country effectively shut down before or five hour

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Speaker 2: weight lines at the airport. And that's because fifty percent

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Speaker 2: of the political parties in the country want to keep

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Speaker 2: foreigners here one hundred years from now. What are our

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Speaker 2: long term prospects as a nation.

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Speaker 9: Well, things are obviously pretty dicey right now. As you

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Speaker 9: noted in that tweet, we're really looking at an existential crisis.

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Speaker 9: We're not in the mode where we're arguing over tax

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Speaker 9: rates or possible distributions of social security. We're now arguing

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Speaker 9: over should we have borders, should we steal kids from

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Speaker 9: their parents if they don't agree to mutilate them, Should

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Speaker 9: we ultimately even have a real democratic process inside the country.

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Speaker 9: And the answer for the Democrats is no, Actually, we

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Speaker 9: are willing to hold the entire country hostage to make

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Speaker 9: sure that illegals stay here and have the possibility of

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Speaker 9: voting for us down the line. And we know that

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Speaker 9: the left is ultimately willing to do things like imprison

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Speaker 9: Donald Trump or try to kill him, or successfully kill

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Speaker 9: Charlie Kirk. None of that has gone away because the

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Speaker 9: right is currently arguing over the war in Iran or whatever.

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Speaker 9: All of those threats are still very real and they

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Speaker 9: are going to continue to be a force inside the

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Speaker 9: United States. And it's politics. So we need a right

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Speaker 9: wing at some level that is willing to fight back

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Speaker 9: and actually fight for power, actually fight for control of

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Speaker 9: this government and the way and the power wields over

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Speaker 9: the people. And if we're not willing to do that,

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Speaker 9: then the simple math says that Democrats will bring enough

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Speaker 9: people in over time to make our votes irrelevant. And

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Speaker 9: at that point we aren't voting our way out of this.

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Speaker 9: And I don't think anyone wants to see the solutions

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Speaker 9: that come when voting is no longer a realistic option

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Speaker 9: for changing the country.

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Speaker 2: Okay, on a possibly lighter note, although it could get

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Speaker 2: dark really quickly, but aren't we getting better? When I

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Speaker 2: say we, I mean the right I know it's a

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Speaker 2: slow process. I know we still have plenty of nsagrams

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Speaker 2: in the Senate. I understand all that, But we are

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Speaker 2: having a bunch of losers retire, lose primaries. John Conan

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Speaker 2: looks like he's on the way to losing one. I

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Speaker 2: know we're not going to have a wonderful GOP next year.

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Speaker 2: I'm not an idiot. But we are trending in the

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Speaker 2: right direction, right.

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Speaker 9: You would hope. So it seems like that's the case.

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Speaker 9: The problem, of course, is one of speed. I think

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Speaker 9: that you're wrecked in saying that the current MAGA movement,

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Speaker 9: the kind of the revolution inside the Republican Party, has

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Speaker 9: yielded some of thost important changes of my lifetime. It's

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Speaker 9: undeniable that Donald Trump, no matter what you feel about,

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Speaker 9: for instance, the Iran war has closed the border, has

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Speaker 9: made significant efforts and deportation, has pushed to do things

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Speaker 9: like in birthright citizenship in the fourteenth Amendment. And these

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Speaker 9: are things that were just unbelievable that they could have

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Speaker 9: never been brought up under the GOP of Mitt Romney

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Speaker 9: or John McCain. So obviously we are seeing a huge shift,

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Speaker 9: But the question is is it fast enough, can we

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Speaker 9: catch up to the damage that the Democrats have done,

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Speaker 9: because what we're seeing is generationally you have somebody like

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Speaker 9: Joe Biden bringing in eight million people or more under

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Speaker 9: his tenure illegally. Even if Donald Trump spends his entire

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Speaker 9: presidency deporting and we get eight years god hoping of

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Speaker 9: JD Vance's president, he probably still won't deport every single

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Speaker 9: person that Joe Biden brought in just in that short

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Speaker 9: amount of time, and we have that kind of asymmetric

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Speaker 9: threat to the logity of the country. You can't sit

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Speaker 9: around and learn these lessons very slow. We're going fast,

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Speaker 9: but we got to go faster.

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Speaker 1: On appreciate you as always my man. Come back.

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Speaker 2: All right, there are important things, and by the way,

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Speaker 2: positive things going on in the Supreme Court, at least

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Speaker 2: I think they're positive. We better talk to Bill Jacobson

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Speaker 2: about that, our resident Supreme Court expert around here, and

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Speaker 2: we'll do that in a moment. Before we do that,

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Speaker 2: maybe right now, after all this has been a heavy show,

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Speaker 2: Maybe your stomach's burning, maybe you're already feeling the heartburn

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Speaker 2: come up, and you know what your problem is. You

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Speaker 2: haven't started your cowboy colostrum yet. I was told about

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Speaker 2: this last summer.

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Speaker 1: I was looking a bit of crappy ear.

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Speaker 2: Having the heartburn, especially when I went to bed at night.

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Speaker 2: Oh it's miserable. I'm sitting there, I'm drinking water by

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Speaker 2: my bed is horrible. What we do about that? Well

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Speaker 2: told me, Hey, it's your gut. Why don't you try

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Speaker 2: this Cowboy colostrum. I've been taking Cowboy colostrum. I love Cowboy.

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Speaker 2: I totally blew her off, but might as well give

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Speaker 2: it a shot. I've not had heartburn one time since.

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Speaker 2: I have not had these stomach aches or whatever, not

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Speaker 2: one time since. Stuff is freaking awesome. Man, try some delicious,

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Speaker 1: We'll be back.

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Speaker 11: We have lots of phrases that involve two words, the

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Speaker 11: last of which the second of which is day, Labor Day,

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Speaker 11: Memorial Day, George Washington's birthday, Independence Day.

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Speaker 12: Birthday, and election day. And they're all particular days. So

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Speaker 12: if we start with that, if I have nothing more

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Speaker 12: to look at than the phrase election day, I think

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Speaker 12: this is the day in which everything is going to

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Speaker 12: take place, and we're almost everything, and then we have

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Speaker 12: three points.

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Speaker 13: In time eighteen forty four, eighteen seventy two, nineteen fourteen,

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Speaker 13: and we can ask what would people have thought on

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Speaker 13: those days? Is meant by this phrase election day? Which

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Speaker 13: of those should we choose? Which of those days dates

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Speaker 13: should we choose?

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Speaker 2: Okay, well, I got to say, Justice Alito is not

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Speaker 2: being too coy about what he thinks about when votes

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Speaker 2: should be counted. Joining me, now, somebody with a lot

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Speaker 2: more wisdom than I have on these matters, the great

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Speaker 2: Bill Jacobson, Professor, Cornell Law.

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Speaker 1: Bill.

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Speaker 2: Obviously, Justice Alito sounds like he's on our side with

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Speaker 2: his whole election day thing. What is this case about,

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Speaker 2: the arguments, the judges.

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Speaker 1: Where do you think this whole thing's going on?

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Speaker 14: Yeah, this is a case arising out of Mississippi. Mississippi

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Speaker 14: has a statue which is not uncommon, which allows the

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Speaker 14: counting of mail ballots up to five days after election day.

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Speaker 14: Other states, some states, I believe, have longer periods of time.

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Speaker 14: The question is is that preempted by federal law? Because

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Speaker 14: there are three federal laws, one for the House election,

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Speaker 14: one for the Senate, and one for the presidential election,

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Speaker 14: which say that the election day is the first Tuesday

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Speaker 14: after the first Monday in November. That's election day. And

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Speaker 14: if you're counting votes after election day, are you allowed

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Speaker 14: to do that? And I think Justice Alito is certainly suggesting,

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Speaker 14: and the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals held the no

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Speaker 14: election day is when it happens. It's not election month,

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Speaker 14: it's not election season. It's election day. And we use

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Speaker 14: that term Labor day, Veterans' Day, Memorial Day. Those are days.

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Speaker 14: Those are not extended periods of time. There are other

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Speaker 14: issues which are not directly before the court but came

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Speaker 14: up in oral argument. What about early voting, And that's

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Speaker 14: not really an issue here. As long as the early

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Speaker 14: voting is counted on election day, I don't think that's

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Speaker 14: an issue and it's not being challenged, and that's what

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Speaker 14: it is, and the Democrats, not surprisingly, want to be

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Speaker 14: able to count forever. Statistically, I've not seen an overall

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Speaker 14: statistical analysis, but I think you and I know from

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Speaker 14: our anecdotal observations over the years, has there ever been

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Speaker 14: an election ever where the post election day counting helped Republicans.

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Speaker 14: It always seems to help Democrats and that's what this

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Speaker 14: is over. This will be a big blow to the

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Speaker 14: whole mail in BA initiative of the Democratic Party. What

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Speaker 14: really has been there as in the whole something they

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Speaker 14: have bested Republicans on. But that only matters if you

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Speaker 14: can get all these mail in ballots counted regardless of

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Speaker 14: when they come in. So this will be a huge

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Speaker 14: blow to the Democrat efforts mail in ballot efforts if

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Speaker 14: the ballots have to be received by election day, because

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Speaker 14: it's election day, not election season.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Bill, So the fact that Justice Alito sounds like

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Speaker 2: he's with us is not exactly breaking news. What about

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Speaker 2: the rest of them? How do we think they're going

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Speaker 2: to rule on this? I know I'm asking you to

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Speaker 2: predict the future, but I didn't listen to these arguments.

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Speaker 1: I know you did. How'd it go for us? Yeah?

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Speaker 14: I listened to the two hours, and it appears that

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Speaker 14: there is going to be a majority in favor of

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Speaker 14: voiding these post election day countings. But I can't say

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Speaker 14: that's a certainty. There are certain cases where you just

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Speaker 14: know that's going to happen. There are always the wild

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Speaker 14: cards here. The Chief Justice, Amy Cony, Barrett, maybe Kavanaugh,

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Speaker 14: I don't think so. We're such Actually, from his questioning,

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Speaker 14: seemed to be very skeptical of this notion that you

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Speaker 14: can count after election day. So I think it's gonna

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Speaker 14: go the way of the Republicans. I think it's gonna

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Speaker 14: go the way that election day is when it has

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Speaker 14: to be received by the election officials. But I can't

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Speaker 14: say that with a huge degree of confidence because most

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Speaker 14: of the justices did not let it let on how

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Speaker 14: they were feeling. Of course, the three liberal justices didn't

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Speaker 14: hold back at all. Kagan was the least vocal of them,

725
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Speaker 14: but so do Mayor and Jackson were very aggressive in

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Speaker 14: talking over people and arguing the case. So the fact

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Speaker 14: that they feel the need to do that leads me

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Speaker 14: to think in their conferences they have a sense they're

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Speaker 14: probably gonna lose here.

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Speaker 2: Katanji Brown Jackson was talking over people. Well, you don't

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Speaker 2: say wow, all right, So Bill, I hate to kneel

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Speaker 2: down on the details, but details matter. If there's a

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Speaker 2: ruling on this, Is this something that could be done

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Speaker 2: and affect the midterm elections?

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Speaker 1: Is this a distant future thing?

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Speaker 14: No, I think it affects the midterms. I mean, this

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Speaker 14: is simply how they count the ballots. This is not

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Speaker 14: who's going to be on the ballot. In a lot

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Speaker 14: of these election cases, the time pressure is you have

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Speaker 14: primaries and you need to get people on the ballot.

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Speaker 14: That's not the case here. This is simply about how

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Speaker 14: they are counted and when they are counted.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Now that leads me directly to redistricting. The other

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Speaker 2: thing I'm worried about as it pertains to the midterms. Basically, Bill,

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Speaker 2: this entire segment is me angling to pray for a

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Speaker 2: better outcome on the midterms that I think we're on

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Speaker 2: the way to.

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Speaker 1: How we look at on redistricting.

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Speaker 14: Well, there's two aspects of redistricting. One is what's going

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Speaker 14: on in Texas, California, I forget where else, Virginia perhaps

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Speaker 14: coming up. And the Supreme Court's taken a pretty hands

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Speaker 14: off approach to that, saying they're not going to decide that.

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Speaker 14: And the way that comes up is that they don't stop,

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Speaker 14: they don't stay various rulings that have been for it

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Speaker 14: or against it. So the Supreme Court on what's going

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Speaker 14: on in Texas, California, potentially Virginia, seems to be taking

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Speaker 14: a hands off approach saying let the states decide that issue.

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Speaker 14: There's a different redistrict in case, which probably won't have

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Speaker 14: a huge impact this cycle. It might depending when it

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Speaker 14: comes down. And that's whether race can be used in redistricting,

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Speaker 14: whether in Louisiana you can force the state to have

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Speaker 14: a majority minority, a majority black congressional district, which affects

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Speaker 14: the electoral vote obviously also in those states, but for

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Speaker 14: the purpose of the congressional races and the midterms, that

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Speaker 14: would be very important. That's where timing does matter, because

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Speaker 14: if they're going to have to change the districts in

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Speaker 14: Louisiana and other states because they were based on race,

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Speaker 14: that i've seen estimates could affect four to five to

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Speaker 14: six seats, which would swing towards Republicans. Because under the

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Speaker 14: Voting Rights Act, there has been a claim and it's

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Speaker 14: been upheld up until now, that a state like Louisiana

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Speaker 14: must have a certain number of majority black districts and

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Speaker 14: that may violate the Fourteenth the Fifth Amendment, and the

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Speaker 14: fourteenth Amendment as to equal protection of the laws. And

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Speaker 14: so that's been argued, and I think that we don't

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Speaker 14: know how that's going to come out, but that would

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Speaker 14: be an important one. So two aspects of redistricting, which

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Speaker 14: could affect a lot of things.

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Speaker 2: All right, Sorry, I'm just coming at you because all

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Speaker 2: these things mattered to me for the exact same reason.

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Speaker 2: I was very honest about Bill. Immigration cases. Now, we

782
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Speaker 2: all know that Democrats bring them in and keep them

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Speaker 2: here as fast as humanly possible for a reason, and

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Speaker 2: it's not because they're so compassionate. What kind of immigration

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Speaker 2: cases are we looking at? Are we going to have

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Speaker 2: a ruling of some kind?

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Speaker 14: Well, there's one that the court just took I think

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Speaker 14: yesterday or today, which and they're putting on an expedited

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Speaker 14: hearing schedule so that it will be decided this term.

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Speaker 14: And as you know, this term means by June having

791
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Speaker 14: to do with temporary protected status. So I think it's

792
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Speaker 14: close to a million people have been led into the

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Speaker 14: country under this temporary protected status. Most of them are

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Speaker 14: from Central and South America. Haiti, I think is the

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Speaker 14: biggest contingent. Second biggest is I believe Argentina and not

796
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Speaker 14: Argentina Venezuela. And the next that I think El Salvadora

797
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Speaker 14: might be wrong on that, but most of them are

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Speaker 14: from Central and South America and the Court has agreed

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Speaker 14: to hear whether temporary means temporary. The Trump administration decided

800
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Speaker 14: not to extend these They were supposed to be twelve

801
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Speaker 14: to eighteen month protected status. They're now going on multiple decades.

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Speaker 14: When there is a program that Democrats like, temporary never

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Speaker 14: means temporary, it means permanent. We see it with social services,

804
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Speaker 14: we see it with welfare, we see it with a

805
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 14: whole host of things. And we're seeing it that Democrats

806
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Speaker 14: think it's to their advantage to have these temporary protected

807
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Speaker 14: status people here not temporarily but now forever. And of

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Speaker 14: course they got a lower court judge to agree with

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Speaker 14: them on that, and so that's really the issue. So

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Speaker 14: that's a big immigration one that's coming up. There are

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Speaker 14: some other ones that are coming up, but I think

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Speaker 14: that's probably the biggest one.

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Speaker 2: Bill Equal Protection Plan, that's yours. Kathie Oakle doesn't like it?

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Speaker 1: Why not? Yeah?

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Speaker 14: So Equal Protection Project equalprotect dot Org is our organization

816
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Speaker 14: which brings civil rights challenges to discriminatory laws, and we

817
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Speaker 14: have brought one against the State of New York regarding

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Speaker 14: something called the STEP program, which runs throughout the state.

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Speaker 14: At fifty six colleges and universities funded by the state

820
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Speaker 14: provides programming for high school and middle school students. But

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Speaker 14: if you're black, Hispanic, or Native American, you're automatically eligible.

822
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Speaker 14: If you're white or Asian, you have to show family

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Speaker 14: economic hardship, so differing standards depending upon your race and ethnicity.

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Speaker 14: That we have filed that case in the federal courts

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Speaker 14: in New York. It's preceding the state is fighting it.

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Speaker 14: So Kathy Hochel's administration is fighting to preserve a plainly

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Speaker 14: discriminatory law because it's a law that discriminates against whites

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Speaker 14: and Asians. And we've also sent to her letter sent

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Speaker 14: her a demand letter saying that there's another program that

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Speaker 14: is for college students virtually identical and that has the

831
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Speaker 14: same discriminatory problems, and we're calling on her to remove

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Speaker 14: those discriminatory eligibility factors. We haven't heard back from her.

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Speaker 14: I doubt she'll do it, but we have the crazy

834
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Speaker 14: situation where state money in New York State is being

835
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Speaker 14: used to discriminate against white and Asian students. And in

836
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Speaker 14: our lawsuit, we're representing Asian students and their parents who've

837
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Speaker 14: been shut out of these programs because of their skin color.

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Speaker 14: It's completely crazy. It shows everything that's gone wrong, not

839
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Speaker 14: just in New York State, but with this whole DEI

840
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Speaker 14: stuff everywhere.

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Speaker 5: Go get them Bill, Thank you, sir. Lighten the mood.

842
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Speaker 5: That's all right, it's.

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Speaker 2: Time to lighten the mood. And I just wanted to

844
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Speaker 2: let you know that I have superior instincts. I accidentally

845
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:58,840
Speaker 2: walked into the women's room today. But that's not the

846
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Speaker 2: important part. The important part is how quickly I recognized

847
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Speaker 2: my mistake. It was just my just my senses. They

848
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Speaker 2: operate at a at a higher level. I knew immediately

849
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Speaker 2: what I'd done. I got out of there, and now

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Speaker 2: nobody will ever know.

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Speaker 1: That's who you're watching. I'll see them all.

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Speaker 3: Hm hm