WEBVTT - #143 - Benny The Butcher 0:00:02.200 --> 0:00:13.960 Yeah, welcome to the du Le Cap Podcast. We got 0:00:13.960 --> 0:00:16.720 a dope episode today with my guy, Benny the Butcher. 0:00:17.680 --> 0:00:20.600 Shout out to Benny Man. This is like the fourth 0:00:20.600 --> 0:00:22.599 time he's been on the show in the last like 0:00:22.720 --> 0:00:24.360 year and a half. I feel like he's like the 0:00:25.400 --> 0:00:27.240 He's like our I don't know, it's like Kim or 0:00:27.240 --> 0:00:29.400 Whack one hundred. Who's gonna be on here a jeeper 0:00:29.440 --> 0:00:33.320 Rico now. Shout out to Benny. His new album, Tanna 0:00:33.360 --> 0:00:36.000 Talk four comes out in March. We had to chop 0:00:36.040 --> 0:00:37.400 it up with him. I got to hear the album. 0:00:37.479 --> 0:00:40.760 It's incredible. Uh so make sure you stick around for that. 0:00:40.800 --> 0:00:42.159 On my Grizelda the Head, you know what it is. 0:00:42.200 --> 0:00:44.239 We always got Griselda on. 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We're gonna 0:03:04.320 --> 0:03:06.000 end up doing one in the couple more months or 0:03:06.000 --> 0:03:10.519 some ship anyway, Tanna Talk for yes serious that season? Yeah, man, 0:03:10.560 --> 0:03:15.120 I'm ready. It's about time. Man? What makes like because 0:03:15.160 --> 0:03:18.119 you know your Tanna Talk series is obviously Tanna Talk three, 0:03:18.160 --> 0:03:21.520 I think is the album that definitively probably just changed 0:03:21.520 --> 0:03:25.440 your trajectory as far as like attention and clearly paying 0:03:25.480 --> 0:03:29.160 attention to you, and then Plugs I Met kind of 0:03:29.200 --> 0:03:32.160 solidified all that attention you were getting. But like, you 0:03:32.200 --> 0:03:34.960 know what, why was it time to follow up Tanna 0:03:34.960 --> 0:03:36.880 Talk three? Because that was twenty eighteen. We're almost four 0:03:36.920 --> 0:03:40.119 years was twenty eighteen. Uh, that's why it's four years ago. 0:03:40.240 --> 0:03:44.960 Like those those represent chapters of my life. You know 0:03:45.000 --> 0:03:47.680 what I'm saying that I was I was ready to 0:03:48.120 --> 0:03:50.400 open up another chapter, you know what I'm saying and 0:03:50.560 --> 0:03:52.720 talk about what I've been going through, talk about what 0:03:52.760 --> 0:03:55.160 I've been experiencing, because I haven't gave I haven't gave 0:03:55.640 --> 0:03:59.560 nobody that since I've been here. The first one was 0:03:59.560 --> 0:04:01.240 my intro, you know what I'm saying, So you know 0:04:01.280 --> 0:04:04.240 what I mean I'm talking a lot about like experiences 0:04:04.280 --> 0:04:07.040 in this ship. I mean, Yo, it's crazy because I 0:04:07.320 --> 0:04:09.120 was telling you like I actually got a chance to 0:04:09.120 --> 0:04:11.840 get an early listen to the album. Man, I ain't 0:04:11.840 --> 0:04:14.840 gonna lie. People are gonna watch this and and uh, 0:04:15.400 --> 0:04:18.200 the album's not coming out for a while. I don't 0:04:18.200 --> 0:04:19.520 know if we could talk about the date yet. We're 0:04:19.520 --> 0:04:20.839 not gonna put it out there, but about a month 0:04:20.839 --> 0:04:24.280 from now, probably about a month months have changed or something. 0:04:24.320 --> 0:04:26.760 It was another date that people don't but right probably 0:04:26.800 --> 0:04:30.680 probably happening in March. Now. This might be your best 0:04:30.720 --> 0:04:36.239 body of work. Man, I don't say that like lightly. Uh. Man, 0:04:36.880 --> 0:04:39.560 you're first of all, just addressing a lot on this 0:04:39.680 --> 0:04:45.279 project and it just feels listen, man, I don't know. 0:04:45.320 --> 0:04:47.160 How do you feel about it? I feel the same way. 0:04:47.279 --> 0:04:51.200 I feel the same way. It's just uh, And I like, 0:04:51.560 --> 0:04:54.039 I'm I'm with the details and that's a lot of 0:04:54.080 --> 0:04:57.640 details and the ship. Uh, I'm I'm this is me 0:04:58.120 --> 0:05:02.680 with rock Nation, and this is me who made some money. 0:05:02.720 --> 0:05:04.200 This is me who I got to see a lot 0:05:04.240 --> 0:05:06.559 of people true colors and I got to be a rapper, 0:05:06.600 --> 0:05:08.440 you know what I'm saying. So I'm like this is 0:05:08.480 --> 0:05:11.599 this is like the Butcher on steroids. It really feels 0:05:11.600 --> 0:05:15.120 that way, like the record that you know, we've talked 0:05:15.120 --> 0:05:16.880 about this record in the past, but the ten More 0:05:16.920 --> 0:05:22.279 Crack Commandments. It's crazy. It's as good as everyone is 0:05:22.560 --> 0:05:25.159 hoping it is, right, but you have Diddy doing ad 0:05:25.200 --> 0:05:29.760 libs on this record, which is so fucking iconic. The 0:05:29.760 --> 0:05:31.960 fact you could have man shout out my shoutout Diddy 0:05:31.960 --> 0:05:33.000 for doing that, you know what I'm saying, because he 0:05:33.000 --> 0:05:35.159 don't got to do that. He did that ship made 0:05:35.160 --> 0:05:38.480 it more authentic, and you know that's my guy. Man, 0:05:39.040 --> 0:05:41.039 go get you out some motherfucking daily oon. What was 0:05:41.040 --> 0:05:43.920 like the best ship? That the origin of that relationship 0:05:43.960 --> 0:05:47.039 and then just the origin of like when did you say, Okay, 0:05:47.040 --> 0:05:48.640 I need Diddy to do ad libs on this or 0:05:48.720 --> 0:05:52.400 was it his idea? Like what happened? Man? Just uh 0:05:52.600 --> 0:05:55.000 putting that record together? I'm thinking, like, how could I 0:05:55.080 --> 0:05:56.440 make this? You know what I'm saying, Let me get 0:05:56.480 --> 0:05:58.640 let me let me see what Primo think, the one 0:05:58.680 --> 0:06:01.000 who made the original beat. Let me let me see 0:06:01.000 --> 0:06:02.200 what did he think? You know what I'm saying, he 0:06:02.320 --> 0:06:04.320 was he probably he heard that shit a million times 0:06:04.320 --> 0:06:06.279 before it came out the original one. So let me 0:06:06.279 --> 0:06:07.760 see what he thinking, you know what I mean. He 0:06:07.839 --> 0:06:09.680 was fucking with it, and I'm like, you know what, 0:06:09.960 --> 0:06:11.080 let me ask him that, you know what I mean. 0:06:11.120 --> 0:06:13.320 And he was with it. So, like I said, he't 0:06:13.360 --> 0:06:16.200 have to do that, you know what I mean, dude. 0:06:16.240 --> 0:06:19.000 Like I said, Man, the dudes at the top like him, 0:06:19.320 --> 0:06:21.760 they take it out almost as a responsibility for them 0:06:21.760 --> 0:06:23.360 to help guys like me or look out, you know 0:06:23.400 --> 0:06:24.880 what I'm saying. But you gotta be my head. You 0:06:24.880 --> 0:06:26.640 gotta be of a certain cloth. They're not just fucking 0:06:26.640 --> 0:06:28.760 with anybody. And they'll tell you that, like we don't 0:06:28.760 --> 0:06:30.279 fuck with anybody, but you know what I mean. So 0:06:30.640 --> 0:06:34.560 appreciate him for doing that. One of the new commandments, 0:06:34.760 --> 0:06:37.240 I'm just gonna spoil one of them. It's one that 0:06:37.400 --> 0:06:40.440 is very necessary, and that's stay the fuck off Instagram. 0:06:40.600 --> 0:06:44.479 Yeah yeah, yeah, right, because nowadays we know every drug dealer. 0:06:44.520 --> 0:06:47.400 They're flossing on the fucking ground, they're flossing on the internet, 0:06:47.440 --> 0:06:49.960 they're fucking trapping on Snapchat. They're doing all this fucking 0:06:50.040 --> 0:06:52.760 dumb ship. It's crazy. They're just telling on themselves like 0:06:53.320 --> 0:06:56.360 it's real time. It's wild, and it's it's it's it's 0:06:56.360 --> 0:06:58.359 funny because back in the day when Biggie did the 0:06:58.400 --> 0:07:01.360 ten Crack Commandments there, but there was just so much 0:07:01.360 --> 0:07:03.480 shit that he was saying that was like very specific 0:07:03.560 --> 0:07:05.640 to that time that you're like, yes, but that is 0:07:05.680 --> 0:07:07.280 one of the ones. And I was just like, someone 0:07:07.279 --> 0:07:09.840 needs to say this ship because real shit, that's that's 0:07:09.880 --> 0:07:11.600 got to be. That's got to be like a rule. 0:07:11.920 --> 0:07:13.160 You know what I'm saying. You can't be on there 0:07:13.320 --> 0:07:16.440 showing how you move. You know, they got like departments 0:07:16.440 --> 0:07:18.120 that watch your ship, you know what I'm saying. So 0:07:18.160 --> 0:07:20.800 it's like Biggie didn't get you know what I'm saying, 0:07:20.800 --> 0:07:23.280 He didn't get a chance to say nothing about that 0:07:23.320 --> 0:07:25.160 because it wasn't it wasn't even a thing back then. 0:07:25.200 --> 0:07:27.240 So now it is. I felt like, if you can't, 0:07:27.280 --> 0:07:29.680 you can't do it without it being authentic. So that 0:07:29.720 --> 0:07:32.600 gotta be a rule. And even if you're not like trapping, 0:07:32.640 --> 0:07:36.760 maybe you're scamming or you're fucking ppping or whatever it is, 0:07:37.040 --> 0:07:38.720 these motherfuckers are getting cat up because it's like, how 0:07:38.720 --> 0:07:40.640 could you afford that two hundred and eighty thousand dollars 0:07:40.680 --> 0:07:44.480 Lamborghini truck. Uh. That applies to the life. You know 0:07:44.480 --> 0:07:47.000 what I'm saying, Yes, like you want to show it off, 0:07:47.000 --> 0:07:49.320 but like do you want to go to prison? And 0:07:49.440 --> 0:07:50.960 I know you don't want to go to prison. You 0:07:51.000 --> 0:07:52.600 know you don't want to want to go that. Momuck, 0:07:52.640 --> 0:07:54.720 you don't want to do that. Man. Now the album 0:07:54.760 --> 0:07:57.400 is amazing man than you. I think you got a 0:07:57.480 --> 0:08:01.840 top five J Cole verse ever from him, and I 0:08:01.880 --> 0:08:07.360 think I think he got he got verses and just 0:08:07.360 --> 0:08:10.120 just like that or just being on the ship and 0:08:10.360 --> 0:08:12.400 then that vibe because sometimes we don't always get to 0:08:12.480 --> 0:08:15.920 catch our favorites and the vibe that we appreciate them 0:08:16.000 --> 0:08:19.000 and and and loved them. What I'm saying people say 0:08:19.040 --> 0:08:20.480 that about me. You know what I'm saying. When I 0:08:20.520 --> 0:08:22.760 when I did the hit Boy, or when I did 0:08:22.760 --> 0:08:24.760 the plugs I met too, They're like yo, I mean 0:08:24.800 --> 0:08:26.120 they want to hear me. And I'm saying that's how 0:08:26.160 --> 0:08:27.640 they want to hear me a certain way. A lot 0:08:27.640 --> 0:08:30.000 of people want to hear bro like that. And even 0:08:30.040 --> 0:08:31.560 though he probably feels like he got shipped like that, 0:08:31.760 --> 0:08:33.880 I'm saying, they just want that's yeah, I mean, at 0:08:33.960 --> 0:08:35.960 least like in recent remembrance I'm like, this is one 0:08:36.000 --> 0:08:38.000 of the bet and Cole went the funk in on 0:08:38.080 --> 0:08:40.560 his album. I loved his album. That was my Album 0:08:40.600 --> 0:08:42.320 of the Year last year. Shout out of Cole, but 0:08:42.400 --> 0:08:45.760 in general, like I feel like, you know when when 0:08:45.760 --> 0:08:47.760 you're calling, you know, you're doing this Benny record, and 0:08:47.800 --> 0:08:49.360 you hear the way you came on it. Because I'm 0:08:49.400 --> 0:08:52.640 sure he heard your ship too. I mean yeah, because 0:08:52.679 --> 0:08:54.760 he picks up where your verse ends a bit. You know, 0:08:56.720 --> 0:08:59.960 you got it, He's got it. You know it's competition. Yeah, 0:09:00.080 --> 0:09:02.439 it's like you're gonna play different in the finals and 0:09:02.520 --> 0:09:04.560 you're gonna play at the Rucker, you know exactly. And 0:09:04.600 --> 0:09:06.880 I love that. I love to be be able to 0:09:06.920 --> 0:09:09.640 have the type of to bring something to the to 0:09:09.679 --> 0:09:13.120 the to a tract and make somebody want to you 0:09:13.120 --> 0:09:15.280 know what I'm saying, to bring to bring something crazier, 0:09:15.360 --> 0:09:17.120 bring something just as that, you know what I'm saying, 0:09:17.720 --> 0:09:19.920 because you know that's what we need as artists. I 0:09:19.960 --> 0:09:21.680 know I need that, and I mean still sharp and 0:09:21.720 --> 0:09:23.760 still you know what I mean, because we've seen people, 0:09:23.760 --> 0:09:26.360 I've seen people who don't be around the same level 0:09:27.360 --> 0:09:30.200 as talentism and and they take a you know, I mean, 0:09:30.240 --> 0:09:31.640 they should take a hint because they're not. You know, 0:09:31.679 --> 0:09:34.360 they fucking around like no, get back at sharks around, 0:09:34.400 --> 0:09:36.160 you know what I'm saying. So the video just getting 0:09:36.200 --> 0:09:37.640 him to do a video, it's a big deal, man, 0:09:37.720 --> 0:09:39.760 that's huge. That means he respects you. That means and 0:09:39.800 --> 0:09:42.720 also for the record, Cole's just doing what Cole wants 0:09:42.760 --> 0:09:45.520 to do. Now. That's so if he's doing something, I'm 0:09:45.520 --> 0:09:47.679 assuming you didn't pay him, right he that nigga? No, 0:09:47.800 --> 0:09:50.360 we we don't, you know what I mean, Like it's 0:09:50.400 --> 0:09:53.160 a mutual respect. It's something that he wanted to do. 0:09:53.600 --> 0:09:55.079 I don't think. I just don't feel like Cole's the 0:09:55.120 --> 0:09:56.760 kind of guy who's doing features for money. If like 0:09:56.800 --> 0:09:59.120 he does it, don't need the money with you. Yeah, exactly, 0:09:59.160 --> 0:10:01.160 That's why he's He even said for a second he 0:10:01.200 --> 0:10:03.680 wasn't fucking with features because he don't. He don't do 0:10:03.720 --> 0:10:05.400 that shit like he do it for the people that 0:10:05.640 --> 0:10:07.600 he want to do it for. He can't put a 0:10:07.600 --> 0:10:09.560 dollar a mount on that, nigga. Rich's hell, that's some 0:10:09.600 --> 0:10:13.440 real shit. That is some real shit. You know. There's 0:10:14.240 --> 0:10:17.160 my favorite song that I heard on the project. You 0:10:17.240 --> 0:10:22.480 and Conway Tyson versallly yes, sir, which should be the 0:10:22.559 --> 0:10:24.440 name of this fucking album. You guys have talked about 0:10:24.480 --> 0:10:25.920 doing that. That should be the name of the album. 0:10:26.200 --> 0:10:30.520 That's crazy, right, But this is a record that to 0:10:30.679 --> 0:10:34.439 me is kind of like so needed for Griselda fans 0:10:34.480 --> 0:10:39.000 to hear because there's been all this fake energy in 0:10:39.040 --> 0:10:42.640 the air. Griselda read it all the message boards about exactly, 0:10:43.240 --> 0:10:47.680 and you guys addressed so much of like that shit, 0:10:47.840 --> 0:10:49.760 like you guys are family at the end of the day. 0:10:50.360 --> 0:10:53.199 There's no weird energy. There's never really been any, right, 0:10:53.240 --> 0:10:54.800 So it's like, I just thought that the way you 0:10:54.840 --> 0:10:57.200 guys addressed all that shit together on that on that 0:10:57.320 --> 0:11:00.320 song was fucking dope and like super much needed, you know. 0:11:01.440 --> 0:11:05.240 And that concept came up from sitting in the studio 0:11:06.080 --> 0:11:11.960 discussing who was better Tyson versus Ali, And my my 0:11:12.040 --> 0:11:16.079 thing was, you we never know. It wasn't meant for 0:11:16.160 --> 0:11:20.720 us to know because they came from two different eras. Tyson. 0:11:21.120 --> 0:11:26.360 Uh looked at the Ali Ali admired Tyson, and it's like, 0:11:26.679 --> 0:11:29.280 this is my big buzz. And I'm not saying we Tyson. 0:11:30.040 --> 0:11:32.480 They got their own legacies, but this big buzz right 0:11:32.520 --> 0:11:33.880 here I learned a lot from this guy, you know 0:11:33.920 --> 0:11:37.720 what I'm saying. So when people say, like, yo, like 0:11:37.800 --> 0:11:40.160 that's I learned a lot of ship, you could never 0:11:40.200 --> 0:11:42.000 you know what I mean, It's it's it's literally the 0:11:42.040 --> 0:11:45.520 same thing. It's literally the same thing. So I just 0:11:45.520 --> 0:11:47.720 want the people understand that when that nigga be killing ship, 0:11:47.840 --> 0:11:50.640 I'm going stupid. I'd be like I'd be feeling like 0:11:50.679 --> 0:11:54.600 that's me. Yeah, I always tell I mean me and 0:11:54.720 --> 0:11:57.600 me and uh a mutual friend of ours. We're talking 0:11:57.640 --> 0:11:59.959 and it's like, at any given time over the last 0:12:00.120 --> 0:12:03.520 five years, the best rappers alive have been in yourself, 0:12:03.640 --> 0:12:08.439 Khan Fred Kendrick when he wants to step out. I mean, 0:12:08.480 --> 0:12:10.480 those are really that's the four I got right now, 0:12:11.559 --> 0:12:18.480 but like two out of those four are the home team. 0:12:18.600 --> 0:12:20.800 Do you feel that way like at any given time, 0:12:20.840 --> 0:12:26.880 like you're the greatest rapper alive. Sometimes when I'm in 0:12:26.920 --> 0:12:29.599 a booth and I'm just and I'm gassing myself, you 0:12:29.640 --> 0:12:30.959 know what I'm saying. But my by the way, I 0:12:30.960 --> 0:12:32.360 want to throw push your tea in there, because twenty 0:12:32.400 --> 0:12:34.920 eighteen was about four years ago and Daytona was up 0:12:34.960 --> 0:12:37.840 there this hot think about it, I know I'm up 0:12:37.840 --> 0:12:40.360 there with the top niggas. I know I'm up there. 0:12:40.480 --> 0:12:42.800 That's that's not a question because that's what it's important 0:12:42.840 --> 0:12:46.040 to Conway. You know that he gives a fuck about 0:12:46.080 --> 0:12:49.960 that kind of shit. Ye he do as he should. Uh, 0:12:50.640 --> 0:12:55.520 I'm up there with the top niggas. But I think 0:12:56.600 --> 0:12:59.440 me being who I am and me being what I've 0:12:59.440 --> 0:13:02.040 been through, how I the ship that I talk about 0:13:02.120 --> 0:13:05.000 that and my personality, Like that's a cheat. Hold you 0:13:05.000 --> 0:13:07.120 know what I'm saying, because I'm I don't even be 0:13:07.120 --> 0:13:08.800 talking like this, but I'm that nigga in real life, 0:13:08.840 --> 0:13:10.640 you know what I'm saying. So it's like not saying 0:13:10.640 --> 0:13:12.120 I had this so I've done this. It's just like 0:13:12.160 --> 0:13:15.040 I'm a I'm a stand up cool person in real life. 0:13:15.040 --> 0:13:17.839 People genuinely like being around me in real life. You 0:13:17.840 --> 0:13:19.240 know what I'm saying. I'm not I don't know whatever. 0:13:19.280 --> 0:13:22.360 So it's like that helps you. You know what I'm saying. 0:13:22.360 --> 0:13:24.160 People want to see me win, People root for me. 0:13:24.200 --> 0:13:26.760 You know what I'm saying. People genuinely like Benny the Butcher. 0:13:26.840 --> 0:13:28.959 You know. Also, so that put me so that put 0:13:29.000 --> 0:13:31.080 my name in conversation, right then the people will say 0:13:31.080 --> 0:13:34.040 it for you. Ship. That's a fact that people will 0:13:34.040 --> 0:13:36.840 say it for you for sure. Man, Conway gives a fuck, though, 0:13:36.960 --> 0:13:39.320 Like give that man his respect or he feels some 0:13:39.440 --> 0:13:42.760 type of way. He always been like that. Man, he 0:13:42.840 --> 0:13:47.440 always been like that. And I feel like, I don't know, man, dude, 0:13:47.440 --> 0:13:48.599 Like I put it, I put it. I put a 0:13:48.679 --> 0:13:50.240 list at the year list out. I think he was 0:13:50.280 --> 0:13:53.080 like three out there. I had kissed number one. He 0:13:53.160 --> 0:13:55.760 hit me like, Yo, what the fuck keV. I'm like, 0:13:55.840 --> 0:14:00.480 CON's like, come on, man, I do like really like 0:14:00.679 --> 0:14:03.360 I just call them like explaining to him. He's like, no, 0:14:03.400 --> 0:14:05.240 I respect it. I respect it. I was like, I 0:14:05.320 --> 0:14:07.600 like that. That's why you're Conway though, That's why, that's 0:14:07.600 --> 0:14:10.960 why you're serious. That's why you're a Jedi, because you 0:14:11.040 --> 0:14:15.560 really give a fuck and like it. Like, it'll be 0:14:15.640 --> 0:14:20.040 hard for anybody that what I'm saying, if we just 0:14:20.080 --> 0:14:23.200 if we're just listening, we're just comparing this to that, 0:14:23.760 --> 0:14:25.640 it'd be real hard to pick somebody over him, you 0:14:25.680 --> 0:14:28.040 know what I'm saying. I agree, I agree. I'm not 0:14:28.120 --> 0:14:29.960 naming no names. I'm not saying if it was him, 0:14:30.120 --> 0:14:32.240 and it could be a lot of names and just 0:14:32.280 --> 0:14:36.200 listening to it'd be real hard, is there? You have 0:14:36.280 --> 0:14:38.400 so much going on. We'll get to the BSF album 0:14:38.400 --> 0:14:42.400 that's coming out soon, but is there ever gonna be 0:14:42.480 --> 0:14:46.280 the Conway Benny tape? Man? I hope so, I hope 0:14:46.280 --> 0:14:48.440 so he I got room for it. I don't know 0:14:48.480 --> 0:14:50.360 he won't have room for when he finished. I know 0:14:50.400 --> 0:14:53.440 you guys got fucking busy schedules. You're running a label, 0:14:54.160 --> 0:14:56.200 running a label. We talk about it all the time, 0:14:56.280 --> 0:15:00.360 even like playing on starting it. I think we probably 0:15:00.400 --> 0:15:02.280 even started. I think it's maybe a song or two 0:15:02.320 --> 0:15:04.560 somewhere for it. You gotta be like six songs, that's it, 0:15:04.640 --> 0:15:06.400 six to eight records, man, that's all I gotta be. 0:15:06.480 --> 0:15:08.560 That's all I gotta be. Be something like bro, just 0:15:08.600 --> 0:15:10.600 throw it out there, something like that. I think we 0:15:10.600 --> 0:15:12.040 shuld just do it and just throw it out as 0:15:12.120 --> 0:15:15.120 like a mixtape, just me and him, no distributors, just 0:15:15.160 --> 0:15:18.640 know nothing, straight up, and then fucking do like collab. 0:15:18.760 --> 0:15:21.400 Merch The merch will go, creat man, if you guys, 0:15:22.040 --> 0:15:26.560 merg will go. It's a half a million dollar merch drop. 0:15:27.120 --> 0:15:30.640 That's a fact million, million, billion dollar merch drop. But 0:15:30.960 --> 0:15:33.520 that's something that we gotta do man, were just cleaning 0:15:33.520 --> 0:15:36.360 this shit up that just that just leaves something that's 0:15:36.400 --> 0:15:39.000 just another box we can check off now you I 0:15:39.280 --> 0:15:40.680 was just telling you this in the other room. What 0:15:40.720 --> 0:15:43.720 I appreciate about Griselda. First of all, I appreciate the 0:15:43.720 --> 0:15:48.840 fact that you didn't really ever like signed to Shady, 0:15:49.440 --> 0:15:52.520 you like built up your equity. And we'll get to 0:15:52.520 --> 0:15:54.080 the death Jam shit in a second, but like just 0:15:54.080 --> 0:15:57.240 in general, Griselda, the way that we've only had two 0:15:57.240 --> 0:16:01.440 Griselda albums come out on Shady, that the Group Project 0:16:01.840 --> 0:16:06.520 and West Side Guns album. And finally we're gonna get 0:16:06.520 --> 0:16:12.400 Conway's official debut in February. I believe he's gonna be 0:16:12.400 --> 0:16:17.960 here next February twenty fifth. Fucking crazy project by the way. 0:16:18.920 --> 0:16:23.720 But to be able to sign somewhere and still put 0:16:23.840 --> 0:16:26.720 stuff out independently. Now for people who don't know, you're 0:16:26.720 --> 0:16:32.280 on deaf Jam. Now you need to deal with death Jam. 0:16:32.560 --> 0:16:36.280 But this album, this J Cole song, which might end 0:16:36.360 --> 0:16:38.480 up being your biggest song ever because Cole's on it right, well, 0:16:38.560 --> 0:16:40.160 just be honest, like the streams might go fucking out 0:16:40.200 --> 0:16:44.920 of this world. It's on Empire still, Indie, what the 0:16:44.920 --> 0:16:47.400 fuck's going on how'd you break the system? Man? Man? 0:16:47.400 --> 0:16:51.080 It's like, man, that's where the game at right now, 0:16:51.160 --> 0:16:53.800 you know what I mean? Where the underground ship with 0:16:53.840 --> 0:16:55.440 the industry shit. You know what I'm saying. You see 0:16:55.480 --> 0:16:58.400 dudes like Babyface Ray or you know what I mean, 0:16:58.600 --> 0:17:00.800 just I could keep it aim and a whole bunch 0:17:00.800 --> 0:17:03.360 of niggas who just like you know what I mean. 0:17:03.640 --> 0:17:05.639 So my thing is is like you obviously have to 0:17:05.680 --> 0:17:09.400 negotiate that with Death Chair, but like Tanna Talk four 0:17:09.520 --> 0:17:11.640 is a big album for you, so why the fun 0:17:11.680 --> 0:17:13.280 wouldn't they be like, no, we need that over here, 0:17:13.359 --> 0:17:16.240 like because they fuck with me and they trust me 0:17:16.280 --> 0:17:20.080 and they believe in me. It's about this. It's like, no, 0:17:20.680 --> 0:17:22.280 coming from my point of view, I need to I 0:17:22.320 --> 0:17:25.399 need to I put my name on that paper. You know, 0:17:25.440 --> 0:17:27.520 I owe you know what I'm saying. So it's like this, 0:17:27.960 --> 0:17:30.399 I owe obligations to them, and they owe obligations to me. 0:17:30.760 --> 0:17:33.080 So to fulfill my obligations, I need to walk in 0:17:33.119 --> 0:17:36.119 there with this, Uh Tanna Talk four patch you already 0:17:36.119 --> 0:17:38.240 on my cape. I'm also assuming that Tanna Talk four 0:17:38.320 --> 0:17:40.960 thing was already worked out with Yeah, And that's another thing, guys, 0:17:41.480 --> 0:17:43.840 Basically I'm just saying, is that once you explain to 0:17:43.880 --> 0:17:47.080 these people your plans, they understand it. You know what 0:17:47.080 --> 0:17:49.160 I'm saying, Like, Okay, you get what you negotiat, getting 0:17:49.200 --> 0:17:51.600 what you negotiate, they respect that, you know what I mean, Like, Okay, 0:17:52.040 --> 0:17:53.400 you're gonna do that, and then you're gonna come over 0:17:53.400 --> 0:17:55.360 here like yeah, trust me. And you know, I'm letting 0:17:55.440 --> 0:17:57.080 them know, like I'm about to smoke this and then 0:17:57.119 --> 0:17:59.160 I'm coming over here. I mean, like, how how many 0:17:59.240 --> 0:18:08.200 albums do you m? One that's hit one? God Man, 0:18:09.880 --> 0:18:13.680 shout out to my guy Ben what that's a beautiful thing. 0:18:14.040 --> 0:18:16.560 You know what I'm saying. But you know, it's opportunities 0:18:16.560 --> 0:18:18.400 for us to do more, you know what I mean. 0:18:18.480 --> 0:18:20.760 But and the bag had to be stupid to even 0:18:20.800 --> 0:18:22.959 get listen. I mean, I don't know if you remember this, 0:18:23.040 --> 0:18:25.800 Like a year ago, you were sitting in there and 0:18:26.400 --> 0:18:28.200 you were thinking about you were talking to a bunch 0:18:28.240 --> 0:18:30.640 of labels, and I was just telling you, like, bro, 0:18:31.840 --> 0:18:34.280 what is this label gonna do for you? You already 0:18:34.280 --> 0:18:38.920 have a song with their biggest rapper, You already have 0:18:38.960 --> 0:18:41.480 a song with Drake. You were about to be on 0:18:41.520 --> 0:18:44.280 a national tour. With Russ. So what can they do 0:18:44.359 --> 0:18:48.560 for you besides give you money? And let's be honest, 0:18:48.720 --> 0:18:51.159 if you just drop some merch or you just do 0:18:51.240 --> 0:18:55.119 what you do, the money's gonna come. So the bag 0:18:55.200 --> 0:18:57.760 had to be substantial for you to consider going down 0:18:57.760 --> 0:19:01.560 that route. Yeah, definitely, the bag was great. And it's like, 0:19:01.680 --> 0:19:03.600 I want to I want to be all over you 0:19:03.600 --> 0:19:04.919 know what I'm saying. I want to be able to 0:19:05.119 --> 0:19:08.639 you already are That's a fact. But you know what 0:19:08.720 --> 0:19:10.399 I'm trying to say, I'm trying to cover the fucking 0:19:10.440 --> 0:19:13.879 math man. Listen, I understand that. I understand that, and 0:19:13.920 --> 0:19:16.840 I hope that def Jam does that for you too. 0:19:18.040 --> 0:19:22.760 My my suspicions are you get that bag and you're 0:19:22.760 --> 0:19:26.600