Speaker 1: Yeah, welcome to the du Le Cap Podcast. We got
Speaker 1: a dope episode today with my guy, Benny the Butcher.
Speaker 1: Shout out to Benny Man. This is like the fourth
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Speaker 1: year and a half. I feel like he's like the
Speaker 1: He's like our I don't know, it's like Kim or
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Speaker 1: Rico now. Shout out to Benny. His new album, Tanna
Speaker 1: Talk four comes out in March. We had to chop
Speaker 1: it up with him. I got to hear the album.
Speaker 1: It's incredible. Uh so make sure you stick around for that.
Speaker 1: On my Grizelda the Head, you know what it is.
Speaker 1: We always got Griselda on. Conway is gonna be on
Speaker 1: as well. We're recording Conway Thursday, So shout out to Conway. Hey,
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Speaker 1: We got a special guest in here, my brother man
Speaker 1: Benny the Butcher, Ah the Butcher coming always Man, Welcome Man.
Speaker 1: It was good man. This is I don't know how
Speaker 1: many interviews we've done at this point, but a lot.
Speaker 1: You're like, this is like the fourth one we've done
Speaker 1: in two years. It's just like we just kicking in
Speaker 1: all this time. Yeah, we was in Miami recently, right,
Speaker 1: was that Rolling Rolling Loud? Rolling Rolling Loud. We're gonna
Speaker 1: end up doing one in the couple more months or
Speaker 1: some ship anyway, Tanna Talk for yes serious that season? Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: I'm ready. It's about time. Man? What makes like because
Speaker 1: you know your Tanna Talk series is obviously Tanna Talk three,
Speaker 1: I think is the album that definitively probably just changed
Speaker 1: your trajectory as far as like attention and clearly paying
Speaker 1: attention to you, and then Plugs I Met kind of
Speaker 1: solidified all that attention you were getting. But like, you
Speaker 1: know what, why was it time to follow up Tanna
Speaker 1: Talk three? Because that was twenty eighteen. We're almost four
Speaker 1: years was twenty eighteen. Uh, that's why it's four years ago.
Speaker 1: Like those those represent chapters of my life. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying that I was I was ready to
Speaker 1: open up another chapter, you know what I'm saying and
Speaker 1: talk about what I've been going through, talk about what
Speaker 1: I've been experiencing, because I haven't gave I haven't gave
Speaker 1: nobody that since I've been here. The first one was
Speaker 1: my intro, you know what I'm saying, So you know
Speaker 1: what I mean I'm talking a lot about like experiences
Speaker 1: in this ship. I mean, Yo, it's crazy because I
Speaker 1: was telling you like I actually got a chance to
Speaker 1: get an early listen to the album. Man, I ain't
Speaker 1: gonna lie. People are gonna watch this and and uh,
Speaker 1: the album's not coming out for a while. I don't
Speaker 1: know if we could talk about the date yet. We're
Speaker 1: not gonna put it out there, but about a month
Speaker 1: from now, probably about a month months have changed or something.
Speaker 1: It was another date that people don't but right probably
Speaker 1: probably happening in March. Now. This might be your best
Speaker 1: body of work. Man, I don't say that like lightly. Uh. Man,
Speaker 1: you're first of all, just addressing a lot on this
Speaker 1: project and it just feels listen, man, I don't know.
Speaker 1: How do you feel about it? I feel the same way.
Speaker 1: I feel the same way. It's just uh, And I like,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm with the details and that's a lot of
Speaker 1: details and the ship. Uh, I'm I'm this is me
Speaker 1: with rock Nation, and this is me who made some money.
Speaker 1: This is me who I got to see a lot
Speaker 1: of people true colors and I got to be a rapper,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I'm like this is
Speaker 1: this is like the Butcher on steroids. It really feels
Speaker 1: that way, like the record that you know, we've talked
Speaker 1: about this record in the past, but the ten More
Speaker 1: Crack Commandments. It's crazy. It's as good as everyone is
Speaker 1: hoping it is, right, but you have Diddy doing ad
Speaker 1: libs on this record, which is so fucking iconic. The
Speaker 1: fact you could have man shout out my shoutout Diddy
Speaker 1: for doing that, you know what I'm saying, because he
Speaker 1: don't got to do that. He did that ship made
Speaker 1: it more authentic, and you know that's my guy. Man,
Speaker 1: go get you out some motherfucking daily oon. What was
Speaker 1: like the best ship? That the origin of that relationship
Speaker 1: and then just the origin of like when did you say, Okay,
Speaker 1: I need Diddy to do ad libs on this or
Speaker 1: was it his idea? Like what happened? Man? Just uh
Speaker 1: putting that record together? I'm thinking, like, how could I
Speaker 1: make this? You know what I'm saying, Let me get
Speaker 1: let me let me see what Primo think, the one
Speaker 1: who made the original beat. Let me let me see
Speaker 1: what did he think? You know what I'm saying, he
Speaker 1: was he probably he heard that shit a million times
Speaker 1: before it came out the original one. So let me
Speaker 1: see what he thinking, you know what I mean. He
Speaker 1: was fucking with it, and I'm like, you know what,
Speaker 1: let me ask him that, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And he was with it. So, like I said, he't
Speaker 1: have to do that, you know what I mean, dude.
Speaker 1: Like I said, Man, the dudes at the top like him,
Speaker 1: they take it out almost as a responsibility for them
Speaker 1: to help guys like me or look out, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But you gotta be my head. You
Speaker 1: gotta be of a certain cloth. They're not just fucking
Speaker 1: with anybody. And they'll tell you that, like we don't
Speaker 1: fuck with anybody, but you know what I mean. So
Speaker 1: appreciate him for doing that. One of the new commandments,
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna spoil one of them. It's one that
Speaker 1: is very necessary, and that's stay the fuck off Instagram.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, right, because nowadays we know every drug dealer.
Speaker 1: They're flossing on the fucking ground, they're flossing on the internet,
Speaker 1: they're fucking trapping on Snapchat. They're doing all this fucking
Speaker 1: dumb ship. It's crazy. They're just telling on themselves like
Speaker 1: it's real time. It's wild, and it's it's it's it's
Speaker 1: funny because back in the day when Biggie did the
Speaker 1: ten Crack Commandments there, but there was just so much
Speaker 1: shit that he was saying that was like very specific
Speaker 1: to that time that you're like, yes, but that is
Speaker 1: one of the ones. And I was just like, someone
Speaker 1: needs to say this ship because real shit, that's that's
Speaker 1: got to be. That's got to be like a rule.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You can't be on there
Speaker 1: showing how you move. You know, they got like departments
Speaker 1: that watch your ship, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: it's like Biggie didn't get you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: He didn't get a chance to say nothing about that
Speaker 1: because it wasn't it wasn't even a thing back then.
Speaker 1: So now it is. I felt like, if you can't,
Speaker 1: you can't do it without it being authentic. So that
Speaker 1: gotta be a rule. And even if you're not like trapping,
Speaker 1: maybe you're scamming or you're fucking ppping or whatever it is,
Speaker 1: these motherfuckers are getting cat up because it's like, how
Speaker 1: could you afford that two hundred and eighty thousand dollars
Speaker 1: Lamborghini truck. Uh. That applies to the life. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Yes, like you want to show it off,
Speaker 1: but like do you want to go to prison? And
Speaker 1: I know you don't want to go to prison. You
Speaker 1: know you don't want to want to go that. Momuck,
Speaker 1: you don't want to do that. Man. Now the album
Speaker 1: is amazing man than you. I think you got a
Speaker 1: top five J Cole verse ever from him, and I
Speaker 1: think I think he got he got verses and just
Speaker 1: just like that or just being on the ship and
Speaker 1: then that vibe because sometimes we don't always get to
Speaker 1: catch our favorites and the vibe that we appreciate them
Speaker 1: and and and loved them. What I'm saying people say
Speaker 1: that about me. You know what I'm saying. When I
Speaker 1: when I did the hit Boy, or when I did
Speaker 1: the plugs I met too, They're like yo, I mean
Speaker 1: they want to hear me. And I'm saying that's how
Speaker 1: they want to hear me a certain way. A lot
Speaker 1: of people want to hear bro like that. And even
Speaker 1: though he probably feels like he got shipped like that,
Speaker 1: I'm saying, they just want that's yeah, I mean, at
Speaker 1: least like in recent remembrance I'm like, this is one
Speaker 1: of the bet and Cole went the funk in on
Speaker 1: his album. I loved his album. That was my Album
Speaker 1: of the Year last year. Shout out of Cole, but
Speaker 1: in general, like I feel like, you know when when
Speaker 1: you're calling, you know, you're doing this Benny record, and
Speaker 1: you hear the way you came on it. Because I'm
Speaker 1: sure he heard your ship too. I mean yeah, because
Speaker 1: he picks up where your verse ends a bit. You know,
Speaker 1: you got it, He's got it. You know it's competition. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like you're gonna play different in the finals and
Speaker 1: you're gonna play at the Rucker, you know exactly. And
Speaker 1: I love that. I love to be be able to
Speaker 1: have the type of to bring something to the to
Speaker 1: the to a tract and make somebody want to you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, to bring to bring something crazier,
Speaker 1: bring something just as that, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: because you know that's what we need as artists. I
Speaker 1: know I need that, and I mean still sharp and
Speaker 1: still you know what I mean, because we've seen people,
Speaker 1: I've seen people who don't be around the same level
Speaker 1: as talentism and and they take a you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: they should take a hint because they're not. You know,
Speaker 1: they fucking around like no, get back at sharks around,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So the video just getting
Speaker 1: him to do a video, it's a big deal, man,
Speaker 1: that's huge. That means he respects you. That means and
Speaker 1: also for the record, Cole's just doing what Cole wants
Speaker 1: to do. Now. That's so if he's doing something, I'm
Speaker 1: assuming you didn't pay him, right he that nigga? No,
Speaker 1: we we don't, you know what I mean, Like it's
Speaker 1: a mutual respect. It's something that he wanted to do.
Speaker 1: I don't think. I just don't feel like Cole's the
Speaker 1: kind of guy who's doing features for money. If like
Speaker 1: he does it, don't need the money with you. Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: That's why he's He even said for a second he
Speaker 1: wasn't fucking with features because he don't. He don't do
Speaker 1: that shit like he do it for the people that
Speaker 1: he want to do it for. He can't put a
Speaker 1: dollar a mount on that, nigga. Rich's hell, that's some
Speaker 1: real shit. That is some real shit. You know. There's
Speaker 1: my favorite song that I heard on the project. You
Speaker 1: and Conway Tyson versallly yes, sir, which should be the
Speaker 1: name of this fucking album. You guys have talked about
Speaker 1: doing that. That should be the name of the album.
Speaker 1: That's crazy, right, But this is a record that to
Speaker 1: me is kind of like so needed for Griselda fans
Speaker 1: to hear because there's been all this fake energy in
Speaker 1: the air. Griselda read it all the message boards about exactly,
Speaker 1: and you guys addressed so much of like that shit,
Speaker 1: like you guys are family at the end of the day.
Speaker 1: There's no weird energy. There's never really been any, right,
Speaker 1: So it's like, I just thought that the way you
Speaker 1: guys addressed all that shit together on that on that
Speaker 1: song was fucking dope and like super much needed, you know.
Speaker 1: And that concept came up from sitting in the studio
Speaker 1: discussing who was better Tyson versus Ali, And my my
Speaker 1: thing was, you we never know. It wasn't meant for
Speaker 1: us to know because they came from two different eras. Tyson.
Speaker 1: Uh looked at the Ali Ali admired Tyson, and it's like,
Speaker 1: this is my big buzz. And I'm not saying we Tyson.
Speaker 1: They got their own legacies, but this big buzz right
Speaker 1: here I learned a lot from this guy, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So when people say, like, yo, like
Speaker 1: that's I learned a lot of ship, you could never
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, It's it's it's literally the
Speaker 1: same thing. It's literally the same thing. So I just
Speaker 1: want the people understand that when that nigga be killing ship,
Speaker 1: I'm going stupid. I'd be like I'd be feeling like
Speaker 1: that's me. Yeah, I always tell I mean me and
Speaker 1: me and uh a mutual friend of ours. We're talking
Speaker 1: and it's like, at any given time over the last
Speaker 1: five years, the best rappers alive have been in yourself,
Speaker 1: Khan Fred Kendrick when he wants to step out. I mean,
Speaker 1: those are really that's the four I got right now,
Speaker 1: but like two out of those four are the home team.
Speaker 1: Do you feel that way like at any given time,
Speaker 1: like you're the greatest rapper alive. Sometimes when I'm in
Speaker 1: a booth and I'm just and I'm gassing myself, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But my by the way, I
Speaker 1: want to throw push your tea in there, because twenty
Speaker 1: eighteen was about four years ago and Daytona was up
Speaker 1: there this hot think about it, I know I'm up
Speaker 1: there with the top niggas. I know I'm up there.
Speaker 1: That's that's not a question because that's what it's important
Speaker 1: to Conway. You know that he gives a fuck about
Speaker 1: that kind of shit. Ye he do as he should. Uh,
Speaker 1: I'm up there with the top niggas. But I think
Speaker 1: me being who I am and me being what I've
Speaker 1: been through, how I the ship that I talk about
Speaker 1: that and my personality, Like that's a cheat. Hold you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, because I'm I don't even be
Speaker 1: talking like this, but I'm that nigga in real life,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So it's like not saying
Speaker 1: I had this so I've done this. It's just like
Speaker 1: I'm a I'm a stand up cool person in real life.
Speaker 1: People genuinely like being around me in real life. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I'm not I don't know whatever.
Speaker 1: So it's like that helps you. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: People want to see me win, People root for me.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. People genuinely like Benny the Butcher.
Speaker 1: You know. Also, so that put me so that put
Speaker 1: my name in conversation, right then the people will say
Speaker 1: it for you. Ship. That's a fact that people will
Speaker 1: say it for you for sure. Man, Conway gives a fuck, though,
Speaker 1: Like give that man his respect or he feels some
Speaker 1: type of way. He always been like that. Man, he
Speaker 1: always been like that. And I feel like, I don't know, man, dude,
Speaker 1: Like I put it, I put it. I put a
Speaker 1: list at the year list out. I think he was
Speaker 1: like three out there. I had kissed number one. He
Speaker 1: hit me like, Yo, what the fuck keV. I'm like,
Speaker 1: CON's like, come on, man, I do like really like
Speaker 1: I just call them like explaining to him. He's like, no,
Speaker 1: I respect it. I respect it. I was like, I
Speaker 1: like that. That's why you're Conway though, That's why, that's
Speaker 1: why you're serious. That's why you're a Jedi, because you
Speaker 1: really give a fuck and like it. Like, it'll be
Speaker 1: hard for anybody that what I'm saying, if we just
Speaker 1: if we're just listening, we're just comparing this to that,
Speaker 1: it'd be real hard to pick somebody over him, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I agree, I agree. I'm not
Speaker 1: naming no names. I'm not saying if it was him,
Speaker 1: and it could be a lot of names and just
Speaker 1: listening to it'd be real hard, is there? You have
Speaker 1: so much going on. We'll get to the BSF album
Speaker 1: that's coming out soon, but is there ever gonna be
Speaker 1: the Conway Benny tape? Man? I hope so, I hope
Speaker 1: so he I got room for it. I don't know
Speaker 1: he won't have room for when he finished. I know
Speaker 1: you guys got fucking busy schedules. You're running a label,
Speaker 1: running a label. We talk about it all the time,
Speaker 1: even like playing on starting it. I think we probably
Speaker 1: even started. I think it's maybe a song or two
Speaker 1: somewhere for it. You gotta be like six songs, that's it,
Speaker 1: six to eight records, man, that's all I gotta be.
Speaker 1: That's all I gotta be. Be something like bro, just
Speaker 1: throw it out there, something like that. I think we
Speaker 1: shuld just do it and just throw it out as
Speaker 1: like a mixtape, just me and him, no distributors, just
Speaker 1: know nothing, straight up, and then fucking do like collab.
Speaker 1: Merch The merch will go, creat man, if you guys,
Speaker 1: merg will go. It's a half a million dollar merch drop.
Speaker 1: That's a fact million, million, billion dollar merch drop. But
Speaker 1: that's something that we gotta do man, were just cleaning
Speaker 1: this shit up that just that just leaves something that's
Speaker 1: just another box we can check off now you I
Speaker 1: was just telling you this in the other room. What
Speaker 1: I appreciate about Griselda. First of all, I appreciate the
Speaker 1: fact that you didn't really ever like signed to Shady,
Speaker 1: you like built up your equity. And we'll get to
Speaker 1: the death Jam shit in a second, but like just
Speaker 1: in general, Griselda, the way that we've only had two
Speaker 1: Griselda albums come out on Shady, that the Group Project
Speaker 1: and West Side Guns album. And finally we're gonna get
Speaker 1: Conway's official debut in February. I believe he's gonna be
Speaker 1: here next February twenty fifth. Fucking crazy project by the way.
Speaker 1: But to be able to sign somewhere and still put
Speaker 1: stuff out independently. Now for people who don't know, you're
Speaker 1: on deaf Jam. Now you need to deal with death Jam.
Speaker 1: But this album, this J Cole song, which might end
Speaker 1: up being your biggest song ever because Cole's on it right, well,
Speaker 1: just be honest, like the streams might go fucking out
Speaker 1: of this world. It's on Empire still, Indie, what the
Speaker 1: fuck's going on how'd you break the system? Man? Man?
Speaker 1: It's like, man, that's where the game at right now,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Where the underground ship with
Speaker 1: the industry shit. You know what I'm saying. You see
Speaker 1: dudes like Babyface Ray or you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: just I could keep it aim and a whole bunch
Speaker 1: of niggas who just like you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So my thing is is like you obviously have to
Speaker 1: negotiate that with Death Chair, but like Tanna Talk four
Speaker 1: is a big album for you, so why the fun
Speaker 1: wouldn't they be like, no, we need that over here,
Speaker 1: like because they fuck with me and they trust me
Speaker 1: and they believe in me. It's about this. It's like, no,
Speaker 1: coming from my point of view, I need to I
Speaker 1: need to I put my name on that paper. You know,
Speaker 1: I owe you know what I'm saying. So it's like this,
Speaker 1: I owe obligations to them, and they owe obligations to me.
Speaker 1: So to fulfill my obligations, I need to walk in
Speaker 1: there with this, Uh Tanna Talk four patch you already
Speaker 1: on my cape. I'm also assuming that Tanna Talk four
Speaker 1: thing was already worked out with Yeah, And that's another thing, guys,
Speaker 1: Basically I'm just saying, is that once you explain to
Speaker 1: these people your plans, they understand it. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, Okay, you get what you negotiat, getting
Speaker 1: what you negotiate, they respect that, you know what I mean, Like, Okay,
Speaker 1: you're gonna do that, and then you're gonna come over
Speaker 1: here like yeah, trust me. And you know, I'm letting
Speaker 1: them know, like I'm about to smoke this and then
Speaker 1: I'm coming over here. I mean, like, how how many
Speaker 1: albums do you m? One that's hit one? God Man,
Speaker 1: shout out to my guy Ben what that's a beautiful thing.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. But you know, it's opportunities
Speaker 1: for us to do more, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: But and the bag had to be stupid to even
Speaker 1: get listen. I mean, I don't know if you remember this,
Speaker 1: Like a year ago, you were sitting in there and
Speaker 1: you were thinking about you were talking to a bunch
Speaker 1: of labels, and I was just telling you, like, bro,
Speaker 1: what is this label gonna do for you? You already
Speaker 1: have a song with their biggest rapper, You already have
Speaker 1: a song with Drake. You were about to be on
Speaker 1: a national tour. With Russ. So what can they do
Speaker 1: for you besides give you money? And let's be honest,
Speaker 1: if you just drop some merch or you just do
Speaker 1: what you do, the money's gonna come. So the bag
Speaker 1: had to be substantial for you to consider going down
Speaker 1: that route. Yeah, definitely, the bag was great. And it's like,
Speaker 1: I want to I want to be all over you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I want to be able to
Speaker 1: you already are That's a fact. But you know what
Speaker 1: I'm trying to say, I'm trying to cover the fucking
Speaker 1: math man. Listen, I understand that. I understand that, and
Speaker 1: I hope that def Jam does that for you too.
Speaker 1: My my suspicions are you get that bag and you're
Speaker 1: gonna be like, you know what, I do it all
Speaker 1: this ship myself anyway, Bro, you're fucking I'm telling you
Speaker 1: what you what you have. I don't even think you
Speaker 1: understand it. Bro, Like I know you, you know your worth,
Speaker 1: and I know you know what you're worth. But I'm
Speaker 1: just like, bro, like they would they should hire you, now,
Speaker 1: that's a fact. They should hire you to help them
Speaker 1: with their artists. And it's and it's not all about
Speaker 1: the money. Sometimes It's like for me, this this was
Speaker 1: another big incentive for me, is that I need to
Speaker 1: be in these rooms now. Just think this is real ship.
Speaker 1: You're in the rooms. No, no, listen, this is real shit.
Speaker 1: I think I was watch which draft was? I watched
Speaker 1: it and I saw your ass. I was like this, Mo,
Speaker 1: you say that Yeah, NBA draft Ship? She was crazy.
Speaker 1: You're at the you gotta beat that, right, NBA ship,
Speaker 1: Rock Nation Brunch. Everything all off of my cousin's getting
Speaker 1: a record deal. And you know what I'm saying, all
Speaker 1: off of that off your work as a quality of
Speaker 1: what you do. Yeah, so imagine when but trust me,
Speaker 1: when you're in this business, you know that it was
Speaker 1: still a lot of people who gave beneath that cold
Speaker 1: shoulder because I wasn't the one with the Jewish fucking welcome.
Speaker 1: That's a fact. But fuck him. But now I can
Speaker 1: get in certain wombs and I could. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Now, certain people gotta shake my hand. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Well, listen to me, trust me, brother,
Speaker 1: I got love for you, genuine love. And I hope
Speaker 1: that you're I hope that this works. You're you're you're richer.
Speaker 1: It already hasn't that's exactly has already worked already. But
Speaker 1: all the ship we're talking about, like fam you got
Speaker 1: a song with Drake. You just dropped a song with
Speaker 1: j Cole independently. He did the fucking video. Fuck the room.
Speaker 1: You are the room. That's a fact. I'm gonna show you.
Speaker 1: I'm someone hit you that Cold Shorter, fuck them, and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna show you what I'm talking about. It's not
Speaker 1: even though it's not even like rappers, it's like business
Speaker 1: shit because it's certain things that I'm trying to do.
Speaker 1: I got movies coming out. I know you're on your
Speaker 1: acting shit, We're gonna get to that exactly. I got
Speaker 1: you got the sports agency, sports agency, like, I got
Speaker 1: so much shit that I'm trying to do that these moves,
Speaker 1: these moves don't even be about the music. A lot
Speaker 1: of times it'd be about my next move, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So hey, it's Chest not Checkers. That's
Speaker 1: a fact. And to be honest with you, I love
Speaker 1: everybody at Depth cham you know what. I'm good people.
Speaker 1: And Snoop's the man. Yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And it's transparency. Over there and it's all that, and
Speaker 1: that's what I That's what I needed before I did
Speaker 1: some ship like that with a major label, because I
Speaker 1: could have done a shit years ago. I saw Snoop
Speaker 1: was the closer. I watched a little bit of the
Speaker 1: Breakfast Club interview and it seemed like Snoop kind of
Speaker 1: closed the deal. He did, he did, And I what
Speaker 1: does Snoop say to you? Because listen, Snoop Dogg is,
Speaker 1: in my opinion, the most famous rapper of all time.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about fame, right. My grandma knows who Snoop is.
Speaker 1: Your grandma knows who Snoop is. My grandma don't know
Speaker 1: who Drake is, but my grandma knows who the fuck
Speaker 1: Snoop is. You know what I'm saying, Like, Snoop is
Speaker 1: that motherfucker. Let's just be clear. So did you probably
Speaker 1: pull up to the compound in Inglewood? Yeah? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: did that, But I pulled up. I pulled up in
Speaker 1: Manhattan somewhere he was, and he was in New York.
Speaker 1: Hell yeah wow. And we kicked it. He just we vibed.
Speaker 1: I did. That's when I did the record with him
Speaker 1: on the Algorithm. Yeah, yeah, I murdered music record, and
Speaker 1: then we just we just liked the exchange numbers, and
Speaker 1: then we just kept talking from there, and he just
Speaker 1: put it in perspective, you know what I'm saying, because
Speaker 1: he just broke it down, you know, with his business,
Speaker 1: with his labels and all that shit. It just be
Speaker 1: real corporate ly and all that. He just like, let's
Speaker 1: call him that type of shit. You know, I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Snoop is a treasure man, right right right, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I love shit like that. He's good.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna show you what I'm what I'm about to
Speaker 1: do with this shit over here. I'm gonna show you.
Speaker 1: They better put you in the new Death Jam Vendetta.
Speaker 1: They got to. I'm the fucking butcher. What can you
Speaker 1: I think there's gonna be a new They gotta make
Speaker 1: a new one. They're crazy if they don't. But if
Speaker 1: they do, you got to be in there with the
Speaker 1: fucking with the apron on, bloody as shit, wold, buffed
Speaker 1: up wild, buffed up. They're gonna make your sideburns extra crazy,
Speaker 1: crazy like BSF chain swinging, I mean crazy like your fatality.
Speaker 1: Will be a fucking butcher. No I don't even think
Speaker 1: they had fatalities in the first stepshit of Vendetta. I
Speaker 1: don't think they did. But we go do something the
Speaker 1: new one. But I'm gonna have a ship like I'm
Speaker 1: gonna have all the fucking Cleavers just strapped up. Shit.
Speaker 1: It'll be crazy. Shout out to Snoop though, Yo, what up? Man,
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Speaker 1: greatest NFL game I've watched? And I don't know, maybe
Speaker 1: my entire life. That was probably the best. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's the top five game ever, but some some are
Speaker 1: saying it is the best game ever. Chiefs first Bills.
Speaker 1: Obviously unfortunately you your Bills never got to touch the
Speaker 1: ball on in overtime. How was it? How was that experience? Man?
Speaker 1: It was dope. It was heartbreaking first and foremost, though
Speaker 1: I can imagine because I'm a Bills fan. I didn't
Speaker 1: want to see the I an't wanna I didn't want
Speaker 1: to lose because I was there the previous year, so
Speaker 1: it was fucked up. But it took me about two
Speaker 1: days after I got over the ship to realize, like, yo,
Speaker 1: he was at one of the best games ever. I'm
Speaker 1: like then then I'm like, damn, he was there. I
Speaker 1: was on the sidelines. I'm like, damn, he was there.
Speaker 1: So when they look back at this ship, that's gonna
Speaker 1: be some good footage. I felt like, you know, I
Speaker 1: felt like, remember when Hammer was on the field, Dion,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. That's that's how I felt.
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna hold you. We're gonna look back and
Speaker 1: be like, Yo, you were at the Allen versus my
Speaker 1: homes no real ship. I was there. I was there
Speaker 1: on the field, chapter whatever. Because these guys are gonna
Speaker 1: be going at it for I don't know how many
Speaker 1: years them boys are gonna be going at it, but
Speaker 1: it seems like it's gonna be a while. And then
Speaker 1: Joey Burrow, Now, yeah, only for the Chiefs to get
Speaker 1: fucking beat by the Bengals the next week. You guys
Speaker 1: would have stomped the Bengals and we fuck with I
Speaker 1: felt like we would have, but we fucked with the
Speaker 1: Bengals because you know, I'm saying, they like donated money,
Speaker 1: uh last year and ship to us. Really know, what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And the chief you know, the Kansas City
Speaker 1: Chiefs too, they donated money to us too, after the
Speaker 1: after that lost. When you say donated money to us,
Speaker 1: who's us? Buffalo? Oh? Nice buffalo like children's hospital? Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: I'm like, do you got a BSF charity? I don't know,
Speaker 1: motherfucking like a half a million dollars? That's big bro.
Speaker 1: Shout out to hey, shout out. Yeah. You know I
Speaker 1: like that too, because nowadays I feel like we always
Speaker 1: see fans fighting in the crowd and it's always like,
Speaker 1: so man, people treat sports like gangs and be annoying
Speaker 1: the show because fuck you, we went the war with
Speaker 1: the fans were sitting in the sections, nobody there. We
Speaker 1: got ten seats, but everybody else is KC fans, right,
Speaker 1: So it's like, man, when they thought it was over,
Speaker 1: you know, they was, they was getting with us, but
Speaker 1: they've seen us triumphantly come back, and then they did
Speaker 1: what they did and came back. So by the end
Speaker 1: of it, like we was going like, yeah, the fuck down,
Speaker 1: shut up. By the end of the game, we was
Speaker 1: hugging each other like like we respect y'all. You know what,
Speaker 1: you know, what. I know what they were saying. They
Speaker 1: was like about the looks at this, we're gonna play
Speaker 1: y'all next year, but at home, y'all gonna be at
Speaker 1: home and doing this for this game next year. And
Speaker 1: I believe him. I believe him too. BSF. You guys
Speaker 1: dropped the compilation already, right Uh you dropped the Gangster Grills,
Speaker 1: you joint, you know what I'm saying with drama. And
Speaker 1: then we dropped my boy Rick Haye ship plates one
Speaker 1: in place two and he didn't putting his stuff out
Speaker 1: of green lantern. Uh, shout out to it. But so
Speaker 1: we are gonna get so the Gangster Grills obviously was
Speaker 1: kind of more of a mixtape that there's gonna be
Speaker 1: a BSF album coming in what April? Yeah, BSF album
Speaker 1: coming to April. It's called Long Lived DJ sha You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, LRPD DJ Shay, Yes, sir, yes, sir,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But I got some much
Speaker 1: I got some so much shit going on over there.
Speaker 1: I got my boy Fuego base over there. I got
Speaker 1: Christina Mackie, my boy love boat. Uh, young world, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. There's so many dope artists that
Speaker 1: I'm trying to tell you when I get in this.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, I'm just connecting dots. I'm
Speaker 1: just I got Ray Moon. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I got dope artists. So it's like, you know, we
Speaker 1: about to start just cooking. Like I'm saying, I'm doing
Speaker 1: these movies, about to release the You're gonna be able
Speaker 1: to hear all the motherfuckers on the uh on a
Speaker 1: compilation long Live DJ Shay Okay on the album. People
Speaker 1: are gonna listen to this after the album comes out.
Speaker 1: You have a line about rappers whose careers you made?
Speaker 1: Do you know which line I'm talking about? Mm hmm,
Speaker 1: I said, But I say, uh, I don't want no
Speaker 1: credit for the deals I negotiated, careers I co created
Speaker 1: and drug dealers. I negotiate with drug dealers I associate with.
Speaker 1: You're talking about that whose careers did you co create?
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not about to like say name, but
Speaker 1: I'm just saying this is that, you know, Griselda put
Speaker 1: what I mean, do I gotta say? And I mean,
Speaker 1: Griselda put lifeblood back in a certain genre of music.
Speaker 1: This is true. But I do think there's a few
Speaker 1: people who's like who who like that? Banning co sign
Speaker 1: is really of course, of course, and it is nothing
Speaker 1: wrong with that because people helped me. My ship was
Speaker 1: created by Westside Gun and Conway. And it's about what
Speaker 1: you do with the opportunity, So be honest with you.
Speaker 1: It's some people get opportunities who don't do ship with them.
Speaker 1: So anybodybody who make your moves off of an opportunity,
Speaker 1: somebody give it to him. That's really your head, like
Speaker 1: do your ship because it was a niggas who's posted
Speaker 1: to been capable of doing it, who ain't who dropped
Speaker 1: the ball? And there's niggas who you didn't expect to
Speaker 1: hold it down. Who holding it down and they flourish it.
Speaker 1: That's some real ship man, that's real. How many okay?
Speaker 1: You know? Usually every year it just depends, I guess
Speaker 1: how you're feeling for the year. But how many projects
Speaker 1: are we getting from me this year? Ten to talk for?
Speaker 1: I'm doing a BSF comp mother fucking Depth Jam debut album.
Speaker 1: You'll be honest with you, do you think you think
Speaker 1: I should drop that this year? I don't know. I'm asking,
Speaker 1: I don't think so, I mean if you're gonna wait,
Speaker 1: like Conway is gonna come on in seven years, I
Speaker 1: don't think so. I'll be ready. I'll be ready top
Speaker 1: of the year, top of the year. That's what I
Speaker 1: feel like you have. Are you able to drop some
Speaker 1: more independent ship though? Yeah? Okay, so we might get
Speaker 1: another and for okay, look it's like this. You know
Speaker 1: we're gonna do the We're gonna do the singles off
Speaker 1: the compilation Long Live Shay and then even with depth Jam,
Speaker 1: I could do some singles. It's not like I'm going
Speaker 1: to go hide at nothing. I just do some some
Speaker 1: shit to warm up, you know what I mean. So
Speaker 1: I'm assuming that we're never going to get the Drake song.
Speaker 1: It's never going to see the light of day. And
Speaker 1: you know what, probably not. Maybe just the moment passed.
Speaker 1: That's what I think, to be honest with you, that's
Speaker 1: what I really think. I think the moment passed. But
Speaker 1: it's a dope song. It's so it's always songs like that.
Speaker 1: The thing about Me didn't leak yeah, hell yeah. So
Speaker 1: so people can go listen to it, So people can
Speaker 1: go listen to this, damn it route. It's a It's
Speaker 1: a dope record, but I think it might be more
Speaker 1: opportunities to do ship. And people heard it. Most of
Speaker 1: the people who need to hear they heard the record already.
Speaker 1: You know, I've heard it. I like the little fake
Speaker 1: name they called it. What they call it Buffalo. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I just heard it when you played it
Speaker 1: for me. I just found out, like no, I found
Speaker 1: I found that it eleaked recently, and I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I had no idea leaked. A moment passed. You know.
Speaker 1: I'm saying everybody was hype about it and ship like that,
Speaker 1: but if we dropped that ship right now on DSP
Speaker 1: should go crazy. But just because people want to hear
Speaker 1: us together, that's the thing about me, Like people be
Speaker 1: excited when I rap with people and or other people
Speaker 1: rat with me. You know what I'm saying. That's what
Speaker 1: I learned from just watching how this shit go. You
Speaker 1: had to be super happy for Kahn to get the
Speaker 1: whole record, right, But I know how important that is
Speaker 1: for you. I know that's a big deal for Benny.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, to get that whole feature. Conway got
Speaker 1: it first, fact as he should, as he should write.
Speaker 1: But I'm just curious, is there any more progress into
Speaker 1: a Benny and J record ever happening. You're on rock Nation,
Speaker 1: that should be that should count towards something. But this
Speaker 1: is the thing I don't think. I don't think whole
Speaker 1: for like, he got to do records with everybody who
Speaker 1: want to you know what I'm saying, But you're the butcher.
Speaker 1: That's what everybody's saying. That's just not anybody. That's how
Speaker 1: everybody feel. But like I said, people just be excited
Speaker 1: for people to rat with this nigga, and I love that.
Speaker 1: I love that. I love that about my supporters and
Speaker 1: my fans. They want to see people rat with me.
Speaker 1: What I loved about the album is obviously just this
Speaker 1: little old me the Drink record record. We whole. You're
Speaker 1: not on Donda like white people. It's kind of crazy.
Speaker 1: You're not on Donna people when they forget about that,
Speaker 1: look at these people who look at these names. And
Speaker 1: the only reason you were on Donna really was white
Speaker 1: because you didn't end up making that wyoming trip with
Speaker 1: because because like, because what happened with that, I was,
Speaker 1: I was, I went out there, but uh I had
Speaker 1: to uh fucking I had to go home and do
Speaker 1: some ship for my daughter to be honest with you first,
Speaker 1: just like that, I was wyoming for two days. Are
Speaker 1: you on? Are you on push your T's album? Mm hmm, okay,
Speaker 1: I gotta just ask because you know you say this
Speaker 1: album here, I'm like, you know you we might need that?
Speaker 1: Uh that part two on that thing I've been I've
Speaker 1: been seeing that. I've been seeing that. Like I said,
Speaker 1: people people want people to rat with me. What I
Speaker 1: must be that nigga. I ain't gonna hold you, man,
Speaker 1: I must be that nigga. I'm about to go. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go research myself. I'm gonna do my own research
Speaker 1: Google and get looking at my accolades because people be
Speaker 1: wanting to see people rap with me. Man, you have
Speaker 1: so much chemistry with Alchemists, Derringer, hit Boy, Obviously the
Speaker 1: dynamics all have to be very different those my guys. Yeah,
Speaker 1: with this project, Darrenger and al handling the production. Was that, like,
Speaker 1: did they work together on beats on a lot of
Speaker 1: this stuff? Uh? Damn. It's hard to answer that question
Speaker 1: because I feel like they always work together on beats
Speaker 1: because I don't seen them both in the studio working
Speaker 1: on shit now going through shit and they're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's doube board, I mean vice versa. So I don't
Speaker 1: feel like have they produced a beat together on this.
Speaker 1: I don't think I could, But I think they like
Speaker 1: they do shit like that all the time. What I'm saying,
Speaker 1: I recorded over Deringer tracks with Al in the room.
Speaker 1: I recorded recorded over Al tracks with Deringer in the room.
Speaker 1: So it's like it's a collective for them. They they
Speaker 1: most like gonna uh have a say so on how
Speaker 1: the records, the playlist of the records. I know Wes
Speaker 1: does that too, you know what I'm saying. So your
Speaker 1: uh affiliation with hit Boy, I'm hoping results in you
Speaker 1: and Nas doing something that would be dope. I feel
Speaker 1: like that. It's uh like I Mike, I gotta I
Speaker 1: got a record I never played that. I got a
Speaker 1: record with Nas that that I never put out. Really,
Speaker 1: I didn't know that boy was gonna use it for
Speaker 1: Burning Proof, So what the fuck? That's the problem. I
Speaker 1: I gotta stop saying this shit to people because they're
Speaker 1: gonna go, great, that's gonna be bitty record with Nas,
Speaker 1: and people are gonna be asking me about the Burning Proof.
Speaker 1: That's that's what it be about. That's burning proof too
Speaker 1: coming soon, I'll be telling too much of my business
Speaker 1: in these interviews, leting people know what I got going on.
Speaker 1: You got records with you got fucking meek Mail records,
Speaker 1: you got records Like, I'm just like, bro, what is like?
Speaker 1: This guy's got records with the biggest motherfuckers alive and
Speaker 1: we gonna get him. This guy's just got a NAS record,
Speaker 1: tuck like, you know, I gotta I do got one.
Speaker 1: But now it's like it just didn't make I guess
Speaker 1: that one. I guess the NAS verse didn't make the cut. Huh.
Speaker 1: I don't know why. I don't know why, but I
Speaker 1: feel like something will Esco would be crazy, something with Drake,
Speaker 1: something would hold, something will push those are dudes on
Speaker 1: fans up. So that's why I speak about doing features
Speaker 1: with all the niggas. You know what I'm saying. You
Speaker 1: know what I would like to hear. And this is
Speaker 1: gonna sound so random. I think if NICKI did some
Speaker 1: rap shit and like you and Nicky might be kind
Speaker 1: of tough, bro, because I'm thinking, like when finish Benny
Speaker 1: the Butcher and Nikki record. When Nikki first came out,
Speaker 1: she had a ship with like Cameron and all Man. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if what listen, just imagine a street Nikki and Bennie records. Everybody,
Speaker 1: everybody know that'll go crazy, insane. She's the greatest female
Speaker 1: rapper of all times to her. And you see you
Speaker 1: said you just signed a female right m hm, Christina, Mackie, Raymon.
Speaker 1: They don't they like not like rapping and ship. They
Speaker 1: just it's going crazy. Just wait, it's top ten ship.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Energetic type of music. Christina
Speaker 1: is a rock star. Ray Moon just wavy. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, My nigga fuego break fuego bas he
Speaker 1: just I'm crazy spitting bars like I love this ship.
Speaker 1: I love just like surround myself obouta around a good
Speaker 1: great talent yea. Yeah. And then let's talk about this
Speaker 1: because we got some weed that you can purchase in
Speaker 1: l A. This is brand new ship. That's brand new man. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is uh that Buffalotto Buffaloto. But what I like
Speaker 1: about these they just come ready to go, motherfuckers, come
Speaker 1: ready to go like shit. So you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Am I doing this the wrong line thing? Let me see,
Speaker 1: I don't fucking know, like little little backwards, just like
Speaker 1: that tiny little backwards sit ain't opening. Oh yeah these
Speaker 1: are fire, yeah, just for people to understand there's tobacco
Speaker 1: in these, So YouTube, don't demonetize this video. Muh but yeah,
Speaker 1: shout out to Yeah, you just got your hands and everything.
Speaker 1: How is the sports agency then going? Man? I love it. Man,
Speaker 1: Just going out meeting new talent and meeting new people
Speaker 1: who excited that I'm in because they fans of my music,
Speaker 1: and like, damn you doing and what I'm doing. You
Speaker 1: should check this player out of you should we should
Speaker 1: work together. You should know what what I mean. So I'm
Speaker 1: just learning a whole bunch of shit, just just going
Speaker 1: to go see different athletes and shit like that. Man,
Speaker 1: the Big Sports Firm page, we just posting athletes that
Speaker 1: were looking under Shout out to my boy T Warrning.
Speaker 1: I'm saying he really want holding that shit down. Is
Speaker 1: there any other because you know I was I was thinking,
Speaker 1: like with what you guys do with merch and how like,
Speaker 1: like you know, I know there's a there's there's some
Speaker 1: people who do like just like I think of Tech nine, right,
Speaker 1: technically you're familiar with strange music and what they got
Speaker 1: going on in your city. I'm like, man, eventually, like
Speaker 1: there's got to be like a BSF headquarters like that
Speaker 1: in Buffalo, where you guys just do everyone's fucking merch,
Speaker 1: cut out the middleman. It was already we was, we
Speaker 1: was already talking about that, and we do. We do
Speaker 1: uh all of our artists merchant. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I got it. I'm doing a deal with I did
Speaker 1: a deal with uh merch traffic, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So we're doing that ship with them, and people tell
Speaker 1: me about that all the time. We did graph merch.
Speaker 1: People already asks us to do they merge all of us.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying, everyone, Cat Tony, Denise, tell my boy
Speaker 1: Tony the narrow and they be holding that ship down
Speaker 1: city boy. But Yo, speaking of that ship, Oh my goodness,
Speaker 1: when's this the interview coming out next week? Oh my goodness.
Speaker 1: By then they're gonna they're gonna see this ship. Wait
Speaker 1: till it's gonna be out. It's gonna be out by now.
Speaker 1: This a Valentine's Day. Shit, I got merch drop. Shit
Speaker 1: is crazy. I had that ship on it. How hands
Speaker 1: on are you with the designs? Everything? Sometimes two hands on.
Speaker 1: They'd be texting me, put me on phone calls. I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: don't got to ask me to do that, just go
Speaker 1: like that. That what I'm saying. But they run everything
Speaker 1: by me because they throw with their job, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Fires Cat and Jake they throw with
Speaker 1: their ship. So they just like they're gonna run everything
Speaker 1: by me, Like yo, Cat dope. I trust her to
Speaker 1: do what she do, but she still just hit me
Speaker 1: up and just how you approve of this or what
Speaker 1: you think. And I think her as an artist or
Speaker 1: whatever you want to call her a curator, I feel
Speaker 1: like she gonna always want have my input to make it,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, authentic and what a lot
Speaker 1: of times what I do is I come to her
Speaker 1: with ideas and say I want this and I want
Speaker 1: that and I need that, and she had throw that
Speaker 1: shit together, you know what I'm saying. But yeah, you
Speaker 1: guys did the Nike shit, which was crazy. Just I'm blank,
Speaker 1: Nike shit. That was dope. When I seen that, that
Speaker 1: was dope and they loved that. That was cat Cat
Speaker 1: designed that the last last year Valentine, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: all the plugs I met two shit. Yep, she did
Speaker 1: the plugs. I met two shit. I did the plugs
Speaker 1: one shit. I'd be having to battle her to let
Speaker 1: her know that I'm still wrong with this shit too,
Speaker 1: because I can design some shit too. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: what was the wildest thing you sold on tour this time?
Speaker 1: Because I've seen you sell a fucking like three hundred
Speaker 1: dollars Butcher Apron the sign Pirates jars always are very like,
Speaker 1: what what was the wildest thing at the merch booth
Speaker 1: for the tour that just ended? But the wildest thing
Speaker 1: at the merch booth basically is, you know, I wear
Speaker 1: all whites, right, I always wear all white Air Force forces.
Speaker 1: I get a bombie buying them shits ten at a time.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I get them custom made. I let my boy
Speaker 1: like put a little Gator Ostrich Nikes ship on the right.
Speaker 1: So I get them and I throw them out. You know,
Speaker 1: people can't believe they're like yo, you throw them ships
Speaker 1: out after you wear them, and it's different. It's not
Speaker 1: like it's not like I'm super rich and nothing. It's
Speaker 1: like this. It's like, you know, we buy a thousand
Speaker 1: dollars shoes or three hundred dollars shoes. So if you
Speaker 1: get if you get three hundred dollars for three pairs
Speaker 1: of shoes, like that's a steal, you know what I'm
Speaker 1: saying or whatever, I might wear them like two days
Speaker 1: at the most, right, So check this out. People like
Speaker 1: Nigga were not throwing these out. You're gonna sign these
Speaker 1: motherfuckers were gonna put them at the merch table. Niggas
Speaker 1: sell them for three four, five hundred dollars. So you
Speaker 1: were selling previously worn signed the air Force. If I performed,
Speaker 1: and if I performed in Seattle and the next show
Speaker 1: was in Portland, the port the Seattle shoes are on sale,
Speaker 1: and they were people buy them every every fucking night
Speaker 1: they bought them. Wow, that's a hey, I like that
Speaker 1: real shiit someone? Yeah, that's that's kind of wild though.
Speaker 1: It's like, Yo, I got some U shoes. These are
Speaker 1: these were Bennies, Man. I think that that's dope. Man,
Speaker 1: I think that's dope. Is it kind of weird? Having
Speaker 1: like most of your guys is really hardcore fans are
Speaker 1: very very very serious fans, and most of them are dudes, right,
Speaker 1: is it? Like? What's it like having like you know,
Speaker 1: Drake's got to deal with like a million women. You
Speaker 1: go to a Grizela show, there's some there's some chicks
Speaker 1: in there, but you know, the hardcore Grisela fans are
Speaker 1: mostly dudes. Is it like weird dealing with like dudes
Speaker 1: that are obsessed with you on a on a you know,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of guys. I don't even mean that
Speaker 1: in a gay way. I just mean that in like
Speaker 1: some fandom ship, like they just be fans like you
Speaker 1: likely I'm sure, like like people follow you to ten
Speaker 1: different dates and all kinds of wild as ship. That's dope.
Speaker 1: It is dope, but like it's different, right, Like but
Speaker 1: I never thought about it like that, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like these dudes follow me, but it's just
Speaker 1: because it'd be cool. You would be having your face
Speaker 1: tattooed on them and ship. That's crazy. I ain't never
Speaker 1: seen that. But it's like my boy man he got
Speaker 1: the b SF tattoo, the boy he got the fucking
Speaker 1: the Benny the Butcher ship. I ended up like I
Speaker 1: got a tattooed, like I copy the fan I seen
Speaker 1: a fan get it or the Benning of the Cleaners.
Speaker 1: I said, I'm gonna go get that shit too, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So I think that's dope and
Speaker 1: that's just it's crazy though, but I don't look at it.
Speaker 1: It's weird, but I look at it's like it is
Speaker 1: crazy that I'm like, you guys have like a crazy
Speaker 1: reddit thread. Are you familiar with the Griselda reddit? Please
Speaker 1: don't put me under that because I know they be
Speaker 1: saying crazy shit. You know, Griselda Reddit is like the
Speaker 1: it's like the q A non for Gaselda fans. Motherfuckers
Speaker 1: just be covered up with their own wild ass theories
Speaker 1: in there. It's like it's it's it's wild. Yeah, well man,
Speaker 1: shout out. And plus these dudes be doctors and lawyers
Speaker 1: and shit, they don't be young, know what I mean?
Speaker 1: So that that's be the most interesting party, like they
Speaker 1: be like upstanding citizens and ship they be coming to
Speaker 1: the ship. How are you you know what that? You
Speaker 1: know what that do though? But I thought about it
Speaker 1: when you asked me that that's why our name is
Speaker 1: in these conversations because it's like mostly guys who's having
Speaker 1: these conversations. This is true. Ain't no females nowhere like
Speaker 1: the best rapper or they are they get in a conversation.
Speaker 1: They not igniting the conversation, right, So I think that
Speaker 1: got something to do with it too. Hey, we got
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Speaker 1: get back to the interview. How are you doing in
Speaker 1: terms of are you fully recovered from the shooting now?
Speaker 1: Because I know you were. You know, obviously you've been
Speaker 1: without the cane for a long time, You've been performing
Speaker 1: and all that, but you, like, is your walk normal
Speaker 1: all the way? Now? Do you still have to go
Speaker 1: through any pain or anything? Uh as far as pain,
Speaker 1: I don't go through no more pain. I haven't gone
Speaker 1: through no pain in a minute. But my shit, I
Speaker 1: definitely got my limp still. I'm definitely still like waiting
Speaker 1: for like certain nerves and shit to come back. Like
Speaker 1: you wouldn't hoop right now? I don't know hooping. I
Speaker 1: ain't don't know hooping. No, no, uh no shit like that?
Speaker 1: Was that? Was it tough to do the tour? Like
Speaker 1: was it a little different to kind of like maneuver
Speaker 1: on stage? Then you hell? Yeah, fuck ith way different.
Speaker 1: But it wasn't. It wasn't. It wasn't hard as I
Speaker 1: thought it was going to be, to be honest with you,
Speaker 1: and and I learned and I strengthened my ship up
Speaker 1: so much from the tour being on it every night.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, It's like people people can't tell,
Speaker 1: people can people don't know no more like basically people
Speaker 1: be like, yo, is you good? You look like you
Speaker 1: walk in regular I'm like, no, nigga, I'm still going
Speaker 1: through my ship. But he really can't tell if you
Speaker 1: look at me. I always was wondered this. There's a
Speaker 1: song that you addressed this on, but it's never gonna
Speaker 1: come out unfortunately. How did you feel about uh Makami
Speaker 1: coming back into the Griselda Fold after you know, the
Speaker 1: issues that were kind of public obviously, and you know,
Speaker 1: what were your thoughts on him coming back into the
Speaker 1: into the fold as far as just being signed to
Speaker 1: the label, putting out Brave for Haiti all that, you know.
Speaker 1: To be honest with you, I didn't care, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I didn't care. I know, you know.
Speaker 1: That's what That's what Wes, That's what Wes does like
Speaker 1: he he put albums together. I know he he liked
Speaker 1: mocked him and mock relationship. That's what they know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I know him only through West Side Gun,
Speaker 1: so I know that's what Wes always wanted to work
Speaker 1: with him. So when he got his ship together, and
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like I don't know, like
Speaker 1: I ain't you know what I mean. I know people
Speaker 1: fuck with his album, but you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: is there ever a like with Griselda with Gun? Could
Speaker 1: you ever see a point in time where let's say
Speaker 1: you're not on Griselda anymore. Obviously your family, obviously you're
Speaker 1: still gonna represent that shit, but like contractually, like is
Speaker 1: that is that something that like you could see eventually
Speaker 1: happening or is it kind of just like, hey, look
Speaker 1: this is how I got here. We're riding this bitch
Speaker 1: to the wheels fall off type situation. I'm Billy the Butcher,
Speaker 1: gonna always be Griselda. I'm gonna always be Griselda because
Speaker 1: it's like even just even if I'm at a different
Speaker 1: label whatever, I'm just gonna always be Griselda. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It's like we is Griselda, building and
Speaker 1: what we put together, or it's not like niggas ain't
Speaker 1: gonna do what Machinet gonna do two or three or
Speaker 1: four like shit like that is you can always expect that,
Speaker 1: Like if anybody go anywhere, it ain't like, oh, we
Speaker 1: ain't working together. It's still the formula one hundred percent.
Speaker 1: And like I feel like you guys are like very
Speaker 1: much like I don't know, pick a fucking NBA dynasty.
Speaker 1: You know, like Westside Gun is Phil Jackson. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. West Side Guns Phil Jackson, Kobe and
Speaker 1: Kobe and Shaq is you and Conway? You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. It's like effect, It's like it's it's always
Speaker 1: the best with y'all, always always. That's why you're gonna
Speaker 1: You're always gonna have that Benny Conway album. I'm people
Speaker 1: don't know where people who have been listening to me.
Speaker 1: I built my shit up off the Benny the Butcher
Speaker 1: Conway songs. When I put my first Brick out in
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen, when they had they when they was doing
Speaker 1: the Underground Run, he was on my shit three times,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I'll be on like
Speaker 1: he calling come and get me for those type of
Speaker 1: records like always that Tyson versus Ali, always our feed
Speaker 1: off of shit like that. And then you got Gun
Speaker 1: on the album. Shout out to Gun. I don't know
Speaker 1: if what I heard is even gonna make the project
Speaker 1: or not, but if Gun, there's a record on there.
Speaker 1: Gun's talking some shit. He's on some DJ Khaled fucking
Speaker 1: Rick Flair. Ass he talking some shit man Pauli Hayman
Speaker 1: type shit. That's I love buzz Man, buzz I love
Speaker 1: buh oh, Yeah, that's what he do. Man. Does he
Speaker 1: trying to convince you to move to Arizona? Yet? Boy
Speaker 1: is trying to tell you definitely. He was like, Man,
Speaker 1: calv I love it here. It's my hometown. So I'm like, yo,
Speaker 1: whatever you do. He's like, we're gonna be at a
Speaker 1: compound out here, inviting me out there. A couple of times.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying, just don't if you come during the summer,
Speaker 1: you might hate it. It's oh for us one hundred
Speaker 1: and twenty degrees, Are you kidding me? It's fucking miserable.
Speaker 1: It's like it's terrible. You could like crack an egg
Speaker 1: on the street and it'll cook you get a third
Speaker 1: degree burned from the seat belt getting in the car.
Speaker 1: It's fucked. I'm a Buffalo nigga. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean we use we being igoles around this motherfucker.
Speaker 1: It was a big storm, like a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 1: Shout out to Buffalo. Man, I did you know it's crazy,
Speaker 1: because like when I went to Buffalo, I really I
Speaker 1: got it. Yeah, Buffalo was chill. It was very much.
Speaker 1: Uh I got I feel like I understood y'all more everybody. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because I was like on Conway's block and uh we
Speaker 1: went to the house that a gun grew up in
Speaker 1: and uh, I was like, Okay, this is I get
Speaker 1: it now, Like I understand Like when you guys say
Speaker 1: when when Conway said Buffalo is the murder capital of
Speaker 1: the country, check the numbers and stats or whatever on
Speaker 1: that jet song. I was like, I was there. I
Speaker 1: believe it so pretty fucking you know, it's a place
Speaker 1: that needs a lot of love, a lot of rebuilding.
Speaker 1: It feels like there's a lot of shutdown businesses. It's
Speaker 1: just like, dude, I've never seen somebody run a city
Speaker 1: like that. Though, Like no matter where we went, it
Speaker 1: was BSF. It was Benny Merchant, was Griselda Merchant was
Speaker 1: everywhere we went. And that's back home, man, I bro billboards,
Speaker 1: fucking people just walking down the street like I've never
Speaker 1: seen somebody run a city like that, like yo, Like
Speaker 1: you see how the Bill's mafia is they like that
Speaker 1: because it's like, man, like, they ain't have nothing to
Speaker 1: root for. The new era storage disappointed me though. The
Speaker 1: new store was terrible. But anyway, no, they got to
Speaker 1: give you the tour. What I'm saying, the tour and
Speaker 1: walk I ain't get the tour. Whatever they had in
Speaker 1: that fucking front room was terrible. But no, but you're
Speaker 1: saying they need people to root for. That's what they do, man.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It's like it's a place
Speaker 1: like that. So anytime we get somebody to to root
Speaker 1: for and champion on, we're gonna do it, especially if
Speaker 1: they from the hometown. Have you got to chop it
Speaker 1: up with Josh Allen at all? Mm hmm, that's like
Speaker 1: the guy you want to like, you gotta get that's Josh.
Speaker 1: I don't need to be bothering him. I needed we
Speaker 1: need a champion. It's like Tom Brady you know, like
Speaker 1: that Tom Brady, you know he is man, I might
Speaker 1: turnish his reputation like I just want to be your friend, bro,
Speaker 1: I might tarnish his reputation like yo, Josh Allen one night?
Speaker 1: Is that the because they're hanging out with in the
Speaker 1: studio with with Benny the Butcher, that'd be pretty crazy.
Speaker 1: You get him to do a fucking skit on an album,
Speaker 1: what them boys not trying to a person like him?
Speaker 1: Or you get Kelly on a skit. He need that,
Speaker 1: he need that mahomes contract man, ah, it's coming that.
Speaker 1: They don't want him. He can't be in no studio
Speaker 1: with me. They like, no, we ain't paying him that money.
Speaker 1: You got to get out the studio with the Butcher.
Speaker 1: You in the studio would be a seth Griselda. Come on, man,
Speaker 1: it's a good place to be, all right. So he
Speaker 1: probably end up being there anyway, but the people who
Speaker 1: paying him can't know. So we've established there's at least
Speaker 1: two projects coming out the rest of the year. That's
Speaker 1: a fact. Maybe more maybe more features, uh, any features
Speaker 1: that you're super excited about that you you've been able
Speaker 1: to link with because you're kind it is, but I can't.
Speaker 1: I'll be one because I'll be so transparent talking about
Speaker 1: this ship and then it should be everywhere. Sometimes songs
Speaker 1: that be coming out, it's some shit that I'm proud about, Like, damn,
Speaker 1: we got to do that. That's crazy. Now. I feel
Speaker 1: like I'm gonna tell you when we turned this off. Okay,
Speaker 1: no you you. Just in general, I feel like the
Speaker 1: last two years have been like every rappers go to,
Speaker 1: I need a real rapper on my song. I am,
Speaker 1: I Am, I ain't gonna I ain't gonna hold you,
Speaker 1: something like, oh look, Benny's, Benny's on the album. Oh shit,
Speaker 1: Benny's on the album. Oh shit, Benny did his song
Speaker 1: with this person. It's fun, man, It's fun. And that
Speaker 1: just let me know that, man, these guys respect me.
Speaker 1: There's all been guys who I respect for sure, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, and always been guys who hustlers.
Speaker 1: And I just love being at being at in that
Speaker 1: pocket word, you know what I mean. The Russ chomped too,
Speaker 1: was fired? Was fired? Yeah? Talk about Russ because Uss
Speaker 1: is someone to put his arm around you very early.
Speaker 1: This is before burden of proof, This is before a
Speaker 1: lot of shit happened. This is uh after Plugs I met, right,
Speaker 1: I think, man, Chomp too is so f fucking incredible.
Speaker 1: I'm like this people, Russ love. I love his competitive
Speaker 1: spirit like I love. He cares so much. He's a
Speaker 1: demon for sure, and his work ethic is crazy. He
Speaker 1: liked me. He want to rap with the rappers. He
Speaker 1: liked me because he want to show, like like what
Speaker 1: we're doing, what we're doing, and Russ is dope. He
Speaker 1: a hustler, you know what I'm saying. And that's my boy.
Speaker 1: Like you said, he reached down early. Man, I appreciate
Speaker 1: that was fucking with me. Are you Is there any
Speaker 1: bigger tours that you're looking to try to hop on
Speaker 1: or yeah? Yeah? Yeah? Uh really right now? They offer
Speaker 1: me some tours ship right now. Matter of fact, I'm
Speaker 1: going to dinner with a book and the agency right
Speaker 1: after this shit. They trying to put some shit together,
Speaker 1: but man, I want some I want some different shit
Speaker 1: than what I've been doing. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I want to do some different shits, some bigger shit,
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, some more theatrical shit. So I'm chilling
Speaker 1: for a while. What do you think is the biggest
Speaker 1: misconception about Benny's the butcher. Damn, the biggest misconception. What
Speaker 1: I mean, let me think about this one, because it's
Speaker 1: a good question. Oh man, I don't. I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't understand. I don't think people understand that. M hm,
Speaker 1: how hard I had to work for this ship, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like I come in with West,
Speaker 1: I come in with Cardway. I don't think a lot
Speaker 1: of people understand that I that I put put aside
Speaker 1: a lot of shit. I gotta work so hard for
Speaker 1: this ship. I don't think. I don't know, man, that
Speaker 1: it's just a whole bunch of shit. I don't think
Speaker 1: people really understand that, you know, I came from I
Speaker 1: came from that cloth. I was eighteen in federal prison.
Speaker 1: I said, I say, you came from being in prison,
Speaker 1: not knowing. You know what I'm saying, like people understand that,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, because not saying that these dudes,
Speaker 1: these guys and my peers ain't never done that, because
Speaker 1: we are just saying we all be doing that, not
Speaker 1: glorifying nothing. But you know, I'm I'm a I'm a
Speaker 1: real member. Not saying that I'm the toughest armor because
Speaker 1: that's that's that's not what I stand on. But I'm
Speaker 1: a real member. Man. You know, my mom had eight kids,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, single mom, been through foster homes,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And just just with that,
Speaker 1: I'm not a nigga who got lucky with a song.
Speaker 1: I mean worked exactly. So it's like all of that
Speaker 1: and and I studied this ship, and I mean I
Speaker 1: study how to get on because I didn't, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, everything fell into place, But I study
Speaker 1: like like rapping. I always listened to this ship. I
Speaker 1: wrote bars down other rappers. What I'm saying just basically
Speaker 1: like I was supposed to be here, and I'm a
Speaker 1: person who got here like purely from the work, not
Speaker 1: no luck, shit, not no nothing, and sacrifice exactly because
Speaker 1: I can only imagine being like perceived as like you
Speaker 1: know when Gun and Conway were going to those stations
Speaker 1: and you would rap it's time. I mean, you got children, bro,
Speaker 1: like you're a grown ass man. You ain't some kid
Speaker 1: who ain't got responsibilities and ship that shit ain't paying
Speaker 1: you at the moment. You know. Fact, that's a lot
Speaker 1: of sacrifice, man. I remember telling I remember, because I
Speaker 1: always held it down for my kids. They always call
Speaker 1: and ask for shit. I remember when I was I
Speaker 1: was really about to buckle down and do this I had,
Speaker 1: they was calling me. I had to tell tell their mom, like, yo,
Speaker 1: let them have a talk with them. I don't let
Speaker 1: them know, like they can't be calling me asking me
Speaker 1: for shit right now because I'm focusing on some things
Speaker 1: I'm going through signing. Because I didn't want to tell them,
Speaker 1: but they needed to know, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: So they eased up off me. She told him, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying about like six months, I was
Speaker 1: back in a position where I was doing shit for him,
Speaker 1: but like better it took like you had to like
Speaker 1: real shit like that, you know what I mean. That's
Speaker 1: fucking crazy. What was the last time you had a job?
Speaker 1: Like when was that time where you finally quit your job? Like?
Speaker 1: What was that job? Like that you actually were getting
Speaker 1: a paycheck for when when I came home and I
Speaker 1: came home in twenty thirteen, this was nine years ago.
Speaker 1: I came home in twenty thirteen. I was I just
Speaker 1: had came back and I had went on a violation,
Speaker 1: So I went to like a violation program Willard, and
Speaker 1: I came back. I was only gone for five months.
Speaker 1: But after you you come home from from a bed,
Speaker 1: and then you come home for a couple months, and
Speaker 1: then you go back and then you come back. It's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: SITUALI is down right. So I was in when I'm
Speaker 1: sitting down. So I was really falling back. I was
Speaker 1: like going around the hood and nothing. I'm motherfucking like
Speaker 1: I signed up for school. I met a good, great,
Speaker 1: nice wholesome girl, you know what I'm saying. She was
Speaker 1: my girlfriend at the time. She she like I was
Speaker 1: going to church for her wow and then like I
Speaker 1: went to I remember she got her brother a job
Speaker 1: like like cleaning like the executive suites at the Bills Stadium,
Speaker 1: and she pulled up to the ship and her brother
Speaker 1: ain't come, so she was like damn, Like she was panicking, like, man,
Speaker 1: her brother ain't coming, you know what I mean. And
Speaker 1: I liked her so much. I'm like, I tell him,
Speaker 1: I do it, you see it. And I worked at
Speaker 1: and I was cleaning, so you actually was at the
Speaker 1: Bill's sad talk about that I cleaned that That's really
Speaker 1: what happened. I'm saying that's what happened, and now you're
Speaker 1: in that motherfucker in this week. The food that's on
Speaker 1: the field performing doing the anthem to how crazy is that?
Speaker 1: It's fucking beautiful, man, that's ship like the fucking that's crazy. Bro.
Speaker 1: Well listen, bro, I appreciate you pulling up Tanna Talk four. Incredible,
Speaker 1: incredible body of work. Man, appreciate you. Love coming up
Speaker 1: here having these talks with you. You know how we
Speaker 1: can of course, of course, bs F. I'm in in
Speaker 1: April Tanna Talk four in March. Ah. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Let's fucking go the butcher coming, Let's go
Speaker 1: Boo