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Speaker 1: Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. Just a little side note for

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Speaker 1: all those people that after Schefter and Reese came out

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Speaker 4: I appreciate Fred's bitterness right there. That was anyway, that's

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Speaker 5: I like it.

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Speaker 1: I remember where I was when the first plane hit

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Speaker 1: was when I heard the news that Bill Belichick and

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Speaker 1: the team were partying ways.

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Speaker 4: I'm not sure he said history computers like the rise

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Speaker 6: Newspaper the six K, like, yeah.

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Speaker 4: Connected when Fred started? I wait, we had.

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Speaker 7: Regularly You've had man blogging about it, talking about hoodies,

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Speaker 8: Means you know, you know me?

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Speaker 4: Oh two, I threw four straight falls to the ninth

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Speaker 1: Jeff Iff Brooklyn says, well, it's time for Paul to

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Speaker 6: And I'm tempted by Green Bay.

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Speaker 7: I think they'll they'll show some spark young team, but

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Speaker 1: All right, welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. It is Tuesday here

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Speaker 1: at Jillette Stadium, and it's a whole new, whole new

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Speaker 1: era about to begin. Gerardmeo officially named head coach of

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Speaker 1: the New England Patriots. Tomorrow at noon will be the

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Speaker 1: dot com and our social media accounts, and it'll be

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Speaker 1: Drod and the owner and family and media and it's

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Speaker 1: going to be a whole thing tomorrow from the GP

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Speaker 10: Never been there, so.

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Speaker 1: Nice Space.

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Speaker 4: Might have to come up to hang with you guys.

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Speaker 10: Come on up, you're gonna come for this one?

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Speaker 4: Well, I have to. We're not going to be on

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Speaker 1: I think everybody should be there. You know. It's you're

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Speaker 1: welcoming in the new coach, new head coach.

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Speaker 6: It's exciting, you know.

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Speaker 11: I will say I went home over the weekend from

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Speaker 1: It's all back home being Virginia.

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Speaker 11: Yeah. Why because he's from there. He's from like we're

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Speaker 11: So it's like just kind of cool to see like

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Speaker 11: Actually brought a paper home with me.

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Speaker 4: Nice. We got an ask BFW from one of his

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Speaker 10: Wow, it's really cool.

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Speaker 4: Who says that he had Gerard in the seventh grade

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Speaker 4: algebra one class. Yeah, at the Jones Magnet Middle School.

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Speaker 7: He just couldn't figure out spatial things like geometry.

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Speaker 1: So that could be one of your questions because tomorrow

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Speaker 4: Do you have that? Do you have that email tomorrow?

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Speaker 11: I like that because teachers all the time would be like,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, Well to us, he just double the tack.

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Speaker 11: They lied to us. I mean, even like how they

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Speaker 1: Well, they didn't know. I don't blame it, but it's

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Speaker 6: A big to do, you know, definitely a big to do.

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Speaker 7: But uh it sounds like he's been making some calls

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Speaker 1: He's got to get busy.

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Speaker 10: Marquise Williams is from the Falcons special teams coordinator and

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Speaker 7: Be funny if Bill went there and then we swiped

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Speaker 1: Thinking about it, so we know. You know, it's not

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Speaker 10: I think I think he's I think you would take

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Speaker 10: I haven't heard it. It's been granted or not yet.

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Speaker 1: Well that's the thing, you know.

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Speaker 4: The other one was New Orleans is the one that requests.

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Speaker 1: If the thing heats up with Bill and he makes

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Speaker 1: him to have the interview. It's what's going to happen

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Speaker 1: in the next month is going to be unbelievably fascinating.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, between the Cowboys losing in that job,

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Speaker 10: Yeah, So Williams was denied an interview with the Giants,

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Speaker 4: So it'd be interesting if maybe when they met with

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Speaker 4: If because remember when Bill came here, there were guys

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Speaker 4: was Brad Seely. No, there was somebody else too. There

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Speaker 1: Well, Charlie was already here. No, oh, no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 4: He took all those guys with him from the Jets.

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Speaker 1: Right trying to think who from uh.

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Speaker 1: What's his name?

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Speaker 8: That Cey?

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Speaker 1: He's got a son who coaches high school here now, oh,

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Speaker 1: getting closed though, anyhoy, Samson, I I'll think of it.

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Speaker 4: I'll think of it Smith.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, sound chance? So building these staffs is going to

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Speaker 7: What's the best thing for those guys right now?

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Speaker 1: To you know, well, you know, I think the best

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Speaker 1: The Patriots offering them jobs, to me, it's two things.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, you know, I was listening to a t one

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Speaker 10: everything like that. So I trying to keep the Belichick

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Speaker 1: Well, plus, you know, you know, if it's saying that, yeah,

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Speaker 1: they're good coaches, but also if Bill's sons are with

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Speaker 1: New England Patriots, doesn't that kind of like take some

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Speaker 1: But if you're the craft if you're the Crafts and

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Speaker 10: Think you A silver lining of all this going on

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Speaker 10: They're not out. But no one's ever gonna right in

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Speaker 10: it's it's not it's not like they're just bringing Josh

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Speaker 4: McDaniels coming back. Now. I don't think either one of

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Speaker 10: I think the coaching staff, you.

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Speaker 10: It's gonna be some change.

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Speaker 4: You'll have a new offensive line coach. I'm not sure

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Speaker 10: You're really not selling it, Paul.

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Speaker 4: I just don't I think Fred. I think Fred is right.

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Speaker 4: I think that they've they've determined that the furnace was

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Speaker 7: And then, like Paul this weekend, I went back so

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Speaker 4: Grow but and I do think Bill had say but as.

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Speaker 6: But there's nowhere to hide behind Bill.

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Speaker 7: That's the thing, like they got to they got to

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Speaker 7: like you know, I just like you can get rid

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Speaker 6: But I just I found that so much of what

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Speaker 7: Doesn't seem like a Bill guy to me, doesn't seem like.

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Speaker 4: Think do you think that like Bill Belich? I mean,

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Speaker 4: This kind of undersized guy. I don't know we're trying

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Speaker 7: I think it's just generally taken an offensive line in

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Speaker 11: Oh yeah, that's I feel like back to the coaching

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Speaker 7: I just think you need to let the offensive coordinator

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Speaker 1: The thing about Troy is that his football IQ was

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Speaker 11: Yeah, And just all the issues with the route running

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Speaker 4: running at times and that was part of it. But

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Speaker 4: I look at it, I'm kind of torn with Troy,

441
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Speaker 4: and maybe it's because I like him so much and

442
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Speaker 4: I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt. But I

443
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Speaker 4: don't think that the guys that they have, you know,

444
00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:28,920
Speaker 4: Nikhil Harriet, it's not like he left here and was

445
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Speaker 4: like lights out somewhere else. And I don't think they

446
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Speaker 4: have a lot of really good players at that position.

447
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Speaker 10: That's why I look at the receiver coach position is

448
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Speaker 10: also a position of somebody that could bring an eye

449
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Speaker 10: for the talent as well, like if you're just fair

450
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Speaker 10: point one of those guys like you know, for example,

451
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Speaker 10: in Minnesota, Keenan McCardell is somebody they interviewed for the

452
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Speaker 10: offensive coordinator job, which I think was really kind of

453
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Speaker 10: a wide receivers coach interview, to be honest with you.

454
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Speaker 10: But Keenan McCardell, like, there's got they turn out wide

455
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Speaker 10: receivers like it's going out of style in Minnesota.

456
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Speaker 1: Well that's that's the good. That's a good point, because

457
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Speaker 1: you know you need five or six deep in wide receivers.

458
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Speaker 1: Not every one of them can be studs in the

459
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Speaker 1: first or second round. You need to develop guys from

460
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Speaker 1: the fifth to sixth round two.

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Speaker 4: So that would be an example of a guy. By

462
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Speaker 4: the way back to our other topic. You know, if

463
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Speaker 4: they brought a guy like McCardell in, like, yeah, you'd

464
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Speaker 4: have some connections to him because Bill coached him, But

465
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Speaker 4: he's really an out that's an outsider to me. Yeah,

466
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Speaker 4: that's someone outside the organization. I would just love his

467
00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:30,480
Speaker 4: connection was Bill, not the Patriots.

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Speaker 10: I think that Troy Brown is a is a really

469
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Speaker 10: good like conceptual coach, and like he understands the playbook.

470
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Speaker 10: He understands the plays, the schemes, what they're trying to do.

471
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Speaker 10: But they need somebody that is like a wide receiver guru,

472
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Speaker 10: like someone that understands and it has an eye for talent,

473
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Speaker 10: someone that can coach release packages and top of the

474
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Speaker 10: route and all that different type of stuff. I think

475
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Speaker 10: Troy is probably pretty good on the whiteboard, but like

476
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Speaker 10: when you actually get him out there to really develop

477
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Speaker 10: these guys, I don't think many of these guys have

478
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Speaker 10: gotten better at like the details of route running. Like

479
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Speaker 10: I don't think that we watch Pob Douglas from the

480
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Speaker 10: beginning of the year to now and be like, oh wow,

481
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Speaker 10: like he's so much more sudden through his break or

482
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Speaker 10: he's you know, he's cut down on wasted staff. I

483
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Speaker 10: think Pop Douglas was just is just good. Like I

484
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Speaker 10: think that he's just good at those types of things,

485
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Speaker 10: and I don't think it's necessarily developed. And say with Jacoby,

486
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Speaker 10: I think Jacoby's just a naturally good route runner. I

487
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Speaker 10: don't think that they made him that much better from

488
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Speaker 10: start to finish. I think he was always just a

489
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Speaker 10: pretty good, heady route runner. And I just look at

490
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Speaker 10: those things as reasons. You know, with Troy that, I'm

491
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Speaker 10: just like, I'm sure that Troy Brown's a super smart

492
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Speaker 10: football guy like he was as a player, but he

493
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Speaker 10: is he someone that can really coach the position and

494
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Speaker 10: has an eye for talent.

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Speaker 7: You don't know, you know, I just think you're getting

496
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Speaker 7: a new offense, you need somebody who speaks the language

497
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Speaker 7: of the offensive coordinator and these like, you know, days

498
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Speaker 7: of just trying to continue to hold over coaches from

499
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Speaker 7: system to system to system that you know, it's all

500
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Speaker 7: getting lost in the wash. It seems like but I

501
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Speaker 7: would be fine with with a clean offensive break just

502
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Speaker 7: generally and get on a new track.

503
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Speaker 1: You know, going back to like the staff and you know,

504
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Speaker 1: was it all just Bill or you know, was it

505
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Speaker 1: several things? And you know who was Bill listening to?

506
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Speaker 1: As you know, in the later years, I heard something

507
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Speaker 1: interesting I want to Paul shows about, you know, as

508
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Speaker 1: the brain drain got you know more, you know, took

509
00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:25,840
Speaker 1: more and more of an effect on the staff, and

510
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Speaker 1: the staff got younger, and you know, Bill actually started

511
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Speaker 1: listening less, believe it or not, because you know, people

512
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Speaker 1: just didn't have the experience that he had. And so

513
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Speaker 1: but I don't know if that's true or not, but

514
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Speaker 1: I could understand that being the case. You know, if

515
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Speaker 1: the guys you trust are leaving and you know, you're

516
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Speaker 1: left with people that you haven't worked with as long

517
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Speaker 1: a time and you you don't trust them, that not

518
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Speaker 1: I mean, you know I'm talking about their judgment. You know,

519
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Speaker 1: you just don't know them as well.

520
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Speaker 10: I just look at the especially on Offense, and I

521
00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:01,320
Speaker 10: know they lose Adrian Clem for the health thing, and

522
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:04,600
Speaker 10: they lose Ross Douglas towards the end to go to Syracuse.

523
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Speaker 10: But the size of the staff, Like they just don't

524
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Speaker 10: have that many coaches compared to other teams, but also

525
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Speaker 10: compared to what they used to have. You know, you

526
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Speaker 10: talk about like the staffs that won Super Bowls. I

527
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:17,920
Speaker 10: always go back to the twenty fourteen staff because I

528
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Speaker 10: think that might be one of the best staffs in

529
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Speaker 10: the modern era of football. And you got guys that

530
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Speaker 10: are like head coaches now that were like low level

531
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Speaker 10: offensive assistants on that staff. You know, Matt Patricia is

532
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Speaker 10: like a defensive assistant, like what is that, you know,

533
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Speaker 10: quality control coach, you know, Brian Dables coaching tight ends

534
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Speaker 10: on that staff, you know, and all these guys just

535
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Speaker 10: end up going on to great things, and they were,

536
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Speaker 10: you know, some of these guys were just low level

537
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Speaker 10: assistants in twenty fourteen, and now they don't even they

538
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Speaker 10: don't have that layer of depth on the coaching staff

539
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Speaker 10: at all. So I do hope that Girod you know,

540
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Speaker 10: has more coaches.

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Speaker 4: Did you know Maddy p had one of the greatest

542
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Speaker 4: calls in the history of the Super Bowl in that

543
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Speaker 4: game as the d C come on, got to give them,

544
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Speaker 4: got to give them the shops? Yeap, just ask Yeah,

545
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Speaker 4: that was one of the greatest quotes ever. How someone

546
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Speaker 4: could actually say that out loud.

547
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Speaker 6: Like, well, actually you can't.

548
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Speaker 7: Well, actually the media like when they're coming.

549
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Speaker 4: For you, like, actually I do, I do have one

550
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Speaker 4: of the greatest calls. Well the super Bowl.

551
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Speaker 6: You're so smart.

552
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Speaker 7: Let me tell you about something I did.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, So there's a lot to digest, a

554
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Speaker 1: lot to talk about, a lot to see in the

555
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Speaker 1: next few weeks once we.

556
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Speaker 4: Got the weekend. If anybody wants to talk about the playoffs.

557
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Speaker 1: Playoffs, yeah, I mean I think I got screwed. Did

558
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Speaker 1: I pick the Steelers?

559
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Speaker 4: No, you did very well.

560
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Speaker 1: Did I pick the Steelers? No, I thought I to

561
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Speaker 1: cover or something like that. You may have picked because

562
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Speaker 1: I picked that game and the assumption they were going

563
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Speaker 1: to play in snow was just going to be running.

564
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Speaker 1: So I think I get a little bit screwed.

565
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Speaker 4: You did pick Pittsburgh to come Yeah.

566
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Speaker 1: Yeah, So I got screwed in that game.

567
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Speaker 6: Yeah, it was kind of unfortunate. That just not great.

568
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Speaker 6: Not a lot of great games.

569
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Speaker 4: Crew they fumbled and said it wasn't a fumbling.

570
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Speaker 6: The Detroit rancrew it was the only good game.

571
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Speaker 10: First half games like a different sport.

572
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I Dallas losing and oh, by the way,

573
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Speaker 1: Zolac stole my line. I always have a line when

574
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Speaker 1: I'm watching the Cowboys and they start to lose, I

575
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,920
Speaker 1: go show Jerry, Show Jerry, Show Jerry. And he took

576
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Speaker 1: that line and he put it on Twitter. He said,

577
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Speaker 1: show Jerry, Show Jerry. Because I told him I did that,

578
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Speaker 1: he stole it.

579
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Speaker 4: Oh okay, so now we get it, like you actually

580
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Speaker 4: told him.

581
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:29,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, I told him on the bus that I do that.

582
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Speaker 6: What was a bigger surprise to you?

583
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Speaker 4: He probably did steal it.

584
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Speaker 1: Dallas or Ery Dallas, Oh, Dallas Eagles.

585
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Speaker 4: A lot of people could Yeah.

586
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Speaker 6: He did like that bad.

587
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, well not that picked Tampa. Someone else to pick

588
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 4: Tampa out right, But Fred had a Fred.

589
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Speaker 6: Fred Yeah, Fred had had a weak Yeah.

590
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Speaker 1: No, I Eagles are a mess.

591
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Speaker 4: I think the Eagles. You could see that coming. I

592
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,159
Speaker 4: picked him, But it was a blind faith kind of

593
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,360
Speaker 4: at some point, like you could see it coming. It's

594
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:57,440
Speaker 4: gonna be a great thirty for thirty on their twenty

595
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Speaker 4: twenty three Eagles.

596
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Speaker 6: I just I still in.

597
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 4: Ten years like that. There's something there that there's something

598
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:05,119
Speaker 4: happened there that we don't know about.

599
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 7: I mean, I asked Devan this morning and he pointed

600
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 7: to you know, the coordinators. I mean, that's as good

601
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 7: as I've heard. Like, what what else?

602
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Speaker 10: I mean, this is an all star team that everybody

603
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 10: was both coordinators.

604
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Speaker 4: No, I know that, but they were still ten and one,

605
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,120
Speaker 4: and I know they weren't playing great, but they were

606
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,360
Speaker 4: still ten and one. Did you see talent wins out?

607
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Speaker 1: Did you see the look on Jeffrey Lurry at the

608
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 1: end of that game in the in the suite, He

609
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 1: had the look of an owner about to fire as coach.

610
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Speaker 11: Oh?

611
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,680
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, I'm surprised, Sirianni was on the plane

612
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 10: in the back to Kelly.

613
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Speaker 4: I don't know if you heard this one before. This

614
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,440
Speaker 4: might be I think they all stole it from me, Fred,

615
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 4: But do you think that maybe Bill was, you know,

616
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:43,960
Speaker 4: maybe thinking about Dallas at some point Sunday afternoon when

617
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:45,120
Speaker 4: the Packers were killing him.

618
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Speaker 10: I didn't see that.

619
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Speaker 4: Well, I didn't see anybody tweet about that. I didn't

620
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Speaker 4: see I didn't see it.

621
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Speaker 1: I texted Zolac while he was on the show yesterday

622
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Speaker 1: and I said, you think there's any chance that Bill

623
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,239
Speaker 1: put in a call to the Packers And how to

624
00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:00,719
Speaker 1: mix up coverages for Dallas, knowing that if Alice loses

625
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 1: that job, at least.

626
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 4: You bring something a little bit different to the table.

627
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 1: Fight.

628
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Speaker 4: Literally four thousand people tweeted the exact same thing, and

629
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Speaker 4: then yesterday when he interviews with Atlanta, the same four

630
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 4: thousand people had to tweet question, what would you have

631
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,879
Speaker 4: you ever had any experience coming from a big deficit?

632
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Speaker 6: Boy? I saw I saw that joke made at least

633
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:23,640
Speaker 6: twice by.

634
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Speaker 4: Oh my god, I tell you, guys, got to fix

635
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 4: my Twitter.

636
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 11: You guys got to fix my It was very copy paste. Yeah,

637
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 11: very copy paste.

638
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:33,159
Speaker 1: Yeah.

639
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 6: Where do you think Bill wants to go?

640
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Speaker 5: Like?

641
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 6: I mean, does he?

642
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Speaker 7: What do you think he would want to go to Dallas?

643
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 7: I mean, I'm just you know, spitballing. But would that

644
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 7: be super appealing to him?

645
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 11: You would make more money in Dallas?

646
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I think way more much?

647
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 6: Well does he more money though?

648
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 4: Jerry Jones doesn't pay?

649
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 1: Because if you're the coach that can finally bring Dallas

650
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 1: back to winning a Super Bowl, that means more than that.

651
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Speaker 6: That's the angle I'm looking for.

652
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Speaker 4: Just what I think he might look at Atlanta, because

653
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 4: I think he looks at Dallas is not a challenge

654
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 4: because it's already a good team. I look at Atlanta

655
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 4: like they've never won anything there, you know, and I

656
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 4: think they're very good. I think it's very similar to Tampa.

657
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 4: I think there's some pieces in place.

658
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:16,480
Speaker 10: But he's not the quarterback. Yeah, that's true, you know,

659
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 10: Like I think that it's easy to look at Atlanta

660
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Speaker 10: and say they're just a quarterback away. Well, he was

661
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Speaker 10: just a quarterback away here. They No, he was not

662
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Speaker 10: a quarterback twenty one. They had a good roster, like,

663
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Speaker 10: they would have been a much better team. I think

664
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Speaker 10: if they had somebody that was not just a passenger

665
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Speaker 10: in that quarterback spot.

666
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Speaker 4: Well, if they had an elite quarterback, they couldn't like.

667
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 10: Like Tampa, Tampa loses Tom Brady last year and they

668
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Speaker 10: come back this year in the divisional rounds. They're better

669
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Speaker 10: than they were with Brady last year. They had an

670
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Speaker 10: actual plan that they went out and executed and got

671
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Speaker 10: a quarterback.

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Speaker 1: He's played well. Let Baker bake.

673
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Speaker 10: Yes, Oh god.

674
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Speaker 4: I was happy for him. Yes, your guy, I was happy.

675
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 4: I was happy for you a guy last night.

676
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Speaker 1: He's back there.

677
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Speaker 4: He's like running around, he's got that bad ankle. He's

678
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 4: running around doing that.

679
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 1: He's got like first, he's got like a sofa.

680
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Speaker 11: Cushion on his Do you believe that the notion that

681
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 11: they're saying that, you know, Baker Mayfield is everything we

682
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 11: wanted Johnny Manzel to be.

683
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Speaker 1: Yeah, kind of.

684
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Speaker 4: Oh, I mean, Johnny Manziel is an elite athlete. Baker

685
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 4: Mayfield is a slug. Manziel would have been running. I'm serious,

686
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 4: He's not an athlete at all.

687
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Speaker 11: I saw that tweet like Baker Mayfield is everything we

688
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 11: wanted Johnny Manzel to be.

689
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Speaker 4: I was like, oh, wow, No, I don't think they're

690
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 4: even comparable as player. Now listen, Obviously, Johnny Manzel was

691
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 4: a mess off the field, and I don't think Baker

692
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 4: Mayfield's ever had anything bad in his off field. No, seriously,

693
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 4: but like, I mean, I don't think I've never heard

694
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Speaker 4: anything bad about Baker Mayfield. Johnny Manziel was a train

695
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 4: wreck off the field, but in terms of playing like styles,

696
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 4: they're not even close.

697
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Speaker 10: I also just like whatever Johnny Manzel like, people have

698
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 10: overreached Johnny Manzel.

699
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Speaker 4: But Johnny Manziel, I mean, now you know why he

700
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 4: was overrated because people saw the talent, but now you

701
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 4: know that he was.

702
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 10: I never saw I never thought he was all that talented. Okay,

703
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 10: I mean he ran around well in college, but like.

704
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 4: That, he ran around by you know, him and Mike

705
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 4: Evans basically beat Alabama by themselves.

706
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 10: No, I mean like it helps to have Mike Evans

707
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 10: who turns out to be a Hall of Fame wide

708
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 10: receiver ten straight.

709
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Speaker 4: What about the ten Hall of famers Alabama had on defense?

710
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 10: I just think that if you watch, like I think

711
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 10: Mike Evans was really good. He was really good the

712
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 10: one that was pulling the cart there and Joe.

713
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 1: I don't know about that. I know, you got to

714
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 1: give props to Manzel.

715
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 10: No, I don't.

716
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 4: I think if you just listen, there's nobody at this

717
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 4: table that appreciates stubbornness more than refused to acknowledge it.

718
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 10: You know, you run around like this and throw fifty

719
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 10: to fifty ball to Mike Evans and he mosses a

720
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 10: guy like, great throw.

721
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Speaker 4: But you run run around for twenty minutes avoiding seven

722
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 4: sacks and then doing it. It's a little different.

723
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he was.

724
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 4: It was incredibly talented. He really incredibly talented.

725
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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, eight five five past five hundred. Is

726
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Speaker 1: the a stick and hotline web radio at pages dot com.

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00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 1: Is the email addressed any other news we need to

728
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Speaker 1: take care of. I mean, there's all.

729
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Speaker 7: Kind of just so many bullets flying, and they just

730
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 7: figured like you just have to wait a few days

731
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 7: and let everything kind of settle to see where it lands.

732
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 6: Because the sides are sniping at each other.

733
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 4: I'm just worried that it's settled. Yeah, that's my fear. Yeah,

734
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 4: you know, we're gonna let it all settle.

735
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 8: Well, I think this is the point.

736
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 1: But if that's, you know, like it, like we said

737
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 1: at the outset, if it's gonna be pretty much status

738
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 1: quo except for the head coach, then they're saying that

739
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 1: we think the head coach was the problem.

740
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 7: Well, I mean I'm still holding our hope for the offense.

741
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 7: I think that's you know, it still seems like things

742
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 7: are on the table. I get maybe the ship has

743
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 7: sailed with you know, upper management at least through the draft.

744
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 7: It is what it is, But I'm at least hopeful

745
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 7: that that, you know, there's gonna be some kind of

746
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 7: injection on the offense too. There has to be, you

747
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 7: know that that that can be coaches and players.

748
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, it doesn't well, it doesn't have to be play,

749
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 4: But I think I think you're gonna get Yeah, I

750
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 4: think you're gonna get it because different Listen, if Bill

751
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 4: gets a job, I'd almost certainly expect Josh to go

752
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 4: with him. And I don't think Billy O'Brien wants any

753
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 4: part of being back on that train wreck. So I

754
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 4: think you're gonna get what you want. But I think

755
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 4: Billy Oh was as welcome back. I think they would

756
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 4: welcome him back. I don't think Billy Oh wants to

757
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 4: be back, and that says a lot, because I think

758
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 4: it meant a lot to him to return home to work.

759
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Speaker 1: I will be amazed, though, if Bill goes to Atlanta

760
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 1: and he brings cam Acord with him and and they're fine.

761
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 10: But I think I think he will't you think he'll

762
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 10: just take no.

763
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Speaker 6: I just think, well, I think he takes both.

764
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Speaker 4: I mean, Maddy p will be running the defense too.

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Speaker 7: He's gonna take what's familiar to like that. And that's

766
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 7: why I'm surprised about Stephen Bryan, you know, I mean

767
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 7: I think they you know, you kind of with him

768
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 7: to you get kind of the reports of like a

769
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 7: little bit of the divided locker room this year, right

770
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 7: between Girard and and Bill. And what side do you

771
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 7: think Steve was in that? I mean, he's intimately working

772
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Speaker 7: with Girard.

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Speaker 6: Bill's his dad, you know.

774
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 7: I mean this part of me just wondering if this like, oh,

775
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 7: they offered them to keep their jobs, if that's just so,

776
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 7: I think it's just a bluff, Like it's a bluff

777
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:09,839
Speaker 7: because we know they're not going to because they're their

778
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:10,279
Speaker 7: team Bill.

779
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 6: They're going to go with their dad, and.

780
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Speaker 7: You know, and and and I mean and to Paul's point,

781
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 7: I mean, in some ways I know that they're still

782
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 7: with Bill. But for you know, Steve was gonna be

783
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 7: the defensive coordinator in Atlanta. He's going to go in

784
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:21,359
Speaker 7: and take the defense over. And I mean I think

785
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:22,399
Speaker 7: that's a step for him.

786
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Speaker 1: But I think, like I'll say this to Bill Belichick

787
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 1: and his sons, I think it's a bad move to

788
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 1: like bring your son in and make him DC. It's

789
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:31,839
Speaker 1: just not good for your son.

790
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 7: Yeah, Well, what's what's better than him or and Matt Patricia?

791
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 7: You know, like there's like I think somebody else I know,

792
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:38,239
Speaker 7: but that's what's so hard for it.

793
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:40,879
Speaker 1: I think, like Falcons or whatever he goes.

794
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:42,439
Speaker 6: But everything you've seen from.

795
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:44,320
Speaker 7: Him over the last five ten years is he's gonna

796
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:45,399
Speaker 7: stick with guys he knows.

797
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 6: I mean, he's going to take a staff.

798
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Speaker 1: Trust and loyalty is a big part of his psyche.

799
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,320
Speaker 1: I get it. But you know, if you if you

800
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:55,319
Speaker 1: really want what's best for your sons, they need to

801
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 1: go out and make their own way.

802
00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, and that's I mean, I said it before.

803
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 7: Young kids, young families, they don't want to move. But

804
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:03,360
Speaker 7: I mean, probably the best case for them is to

805
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,319
Speaker 7: go to a totally new team where they're you know,

806
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,319
Speaker 7: hired on and do a different role and they can

807
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 7: you know, just kind of work their way up the

808
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 7: traditional way that way.

809
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 1: But but I I think if Gerard Mayo keeps Steve

810
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:18,400
Speaker 1: Belichick and name some defensive coordinatory, he's telling the world

811
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,720
Speaker 1: this kid's good. I worked with him side by side.

812
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 1: I know what he does, to the point where it's

813
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 1: my reputation. I'm the head coach. Now if our defense stinks,

814
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 1: it's gonna be on me. But I trust him enough

815
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 1: to run it. But haven't you think that's a huge statement.

816
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 4: Haven't you heard all these stories about how friendly they are. Yeah,

817
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 4: Like I think you could just as easily combat that

818
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 4: with well, you know, he went with his buddy. No,

819
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,239
Speaker 4: he went with what he did exactly what coach.

820
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 1: Now now it's now, this is all on me, and

821
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 1: I have to make sure I do what's best for

822
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 1: me and if he if he has.

823
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,239
Speaker 4: You could make an argument what's best for Girard is

824
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,760
Speaker 4: to stick with his friend. You could make that argument.

825
00:35:58,880 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 1: Not if he's not a good coach.

826
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 4: Well, no one's saying he's not a good coach. I

827
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 4: don't think anybody says no.

828
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,319
Speaker 1: And what I'm saying that Gerard's saying he is a

829
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 1: good coach if he keeps.

830
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,879
Speaker 4: Him, Yeah, I think. But I don't think anybody thinks

831
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 4: he's a bad coach.

832
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 1: Some people don't know. Some people have no idea like

833
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,879
Speaker 1: who was good or who was bad in that Real.

834
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 4: People feel like the defense has been okay, yes, and

835
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 4: he's been part of that. But why, I don't think people.

836
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 1: Because of Bill Grod or Steve Well.

837
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 4: I don't think people think it's just because of one

838
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 4: of them. I mean, but a lot of people bigger

839
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 4: like I don't I don't think it's as anywhere near

840
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 4: as big as you're making.

841
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 1: Oh, I think it is. If Gerard names him defensive coordinator,

842
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 1: that's an absolute testimonial to.

843
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 4: The job for their friendship.

844
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 1: Did No, it's got to be his ability, to his ability,

845
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:50,319
Speaker 1: because you know if if if he's not a good coach,

846
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 1: he's going to be hot firing his friend.

847
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:53,799
Speaker 4: I didn't say he's not a good coach. I don't

848
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:55,399
Speaker 4: know how many times I can say that. I don't

849
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 4: think he's a bad coach. Okay, but I don't think

850
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:00,799
Speaker 4: it's just glowing testimonial to stick with what you know.

851
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 4: I don't think that's but it's it's I don't think

852
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 4: it speaks as many volumes as you.

853
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 1: What I'm saying is, if what you know is really good,

854
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 1: you stick with it.

855
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 4: I know he knows what he's doing, and he's my friend.

856
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 4: You stick with it because I know what I know.

857
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:18,800
Speaker 4: I don't know about the Luba Lubacu Lubica, Luba co Lubica.

858
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:22,400
Speaker 4: I don't know him as intimately as I do Steve.

859
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 4: He might be a better coach, but I don't know him.

860
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 4: People like him, Yeah, do you understand what?

861
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:27,880
Speaker 11: Like?

862
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 4: Do you know what My point is, like, if I

863
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 4: have my choice, I think you you've been making a

864
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 4: comment for the last two months about how easy it

865
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 4: would be to just stick with everything right. The easy

866
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:42,439
Speaker 4: thing to do would have been just I know Steve,

867
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 4: just run it back. I think it's the same thing here.

868
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 4: I know Steve, I know I work well with him,

869
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 4: I know he's good. I'm just going to stick with it.

870
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna This is my problem with the whole

871
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 4: process is I think that they cut off potential information,

872
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 4: They cut off chance to learn more from the outside,

873
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 4: even though it was already set up. It was contractually

874
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 4: set up with Girod and I have no problem with

875
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:10,760
Speaker 4: Gerard being the head coach. I think by not talking

876
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 4: to anybody, you cost yourself an opportunity to gather information.

877
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 4: And I think it's the same thing here.

878
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 10: Like it would have been nice to sit down with

879
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 10: a Bobby Slowick and say, how do you like, what

880
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 10: are your offensive philosophies? You know what, what do you

881
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,360
Speaker 10: how do you look at building offense and scheme and

882
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:30,760
Speaker 10: all that kind of stuff, and then go and compare

883
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 10: it to to the guys that they've had here. Billy

884
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 10: O'Brien Josh McDaniels. You know those types of guys, And

885
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 10: I'm telling you, I think a lot of the things

886
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:38,919
Speaker 10: would be very different fact.

887
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 1: But you know it's funny though, because let's say, I'm

888
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 1: not disagreeing with you, but who's the person here that's

889
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 1: sitting down and asking those questions of Bobby Slowick.

890
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 10: That's my biggest concern right now.

891
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 4: Well, I would I would like it, you know, to

892
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:54,839
Speaker 4: be all of them.

893
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:56,720
Speaker 1: Who's who's them?

894
00:38:57,040 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 4: Robert Jonathan, Matt grow Elliott Will.

895
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 1: Okay, so you're making really Matt Grove a GM.

896
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 4: In this case, but that I didn't do that. They

897
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 4: did because he's in charge, they said, they said they're

898
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,760
Speaker 4: staying here. Yeah, well can.

899
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 1: I He's not in charge of hiring coaches, can I?

900
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 4: Can I just do this?

901
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:16,720
Speaker 1: He's in charge of getting tough, fast people.

902
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 4: I'm not interested in who's hiring the coach as much

903
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,400
Speaker 4: as I am finding out information as to why my

904
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 4: offense is in the prehistoric gas and I want to

905
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 4: know who. I think I think they cost themselves an

906
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 4: opportunity to find out maybe why I heard Boomer this morning, right,

907
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:34,839
Speaker 4: Boomer size and not Boomer Berman. Boomer sires and talking

908
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,799
Speaker 4: about there are really six offenses in football that are

909
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 4: worth anything. Did you hear this?

910
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 8: No?

911
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:44,759
Speaker 4: But San Francisco, Houston was one, you know, Miami, and

912
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:47,239
Speaker 4: you know, it's all of the Rams, it's all of

913
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:49,359
Speaker 4: the McVeigh Shanahan.

914
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 10: It's the Washington coach, Washington coaching staff.

915
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:55,919
Speaker 4: You know. Let's find out why we couldn't. We tried

916
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:57,839
Speaker 4: to implement this two years ago. Let's find out why

917
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 4: we failed. Right, That's all I'm saying.

918
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 1: But you really want Robert Kraft asking those questions.

919
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:07,840
Speaker 4: I want everybody asking the questions if they're all going

920
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 4: to be involved, Fred, I want everybody who's going to

921
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:11,760
Speaker 4: be involved to be asking the questions.

922
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:14,400
Speaker 10: This is why my my footballs are needs to happen.

923
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 10: Like you need to have a football guy in the

924
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 10: room that is beyond just the head coach and the

925
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 10: personnel people because they're too close to it.

926
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 4: And I want one very small minor thing that backs

927
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:29,320
Speaker 4: up what Evan's talking about that I wanted. The Patriots

928
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 4: have never had a general manager.

929
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:33,319
Speaker 1: Dear mister Kraft, I have someone on my staff named

930
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 1: Evan Lazar who is volunteering to be bizarre ry.

931
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 10: First of them.

932
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 4: Can I be honest with you. As much as I

933
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:42,839
Speaker 4: love to make in the room, I would rather have

934
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Speaker 4: Evan Lazara in that role.

935
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 8: Nothing. Okay, I appreciate that.

936
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Speaker 10: That's the nicest thing.

937
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 1: Just compared the top the top three you want over nothing?

938
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:55,360
Speaker 10: I mean, that's amazing.

939
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 4: But did you see this stuff over the weekend? The

940
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 4: Patriots have never had a general man? Like, that's not true?

941
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 4: Are we just under Belichick?

942
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 12: Oh?

943
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 4: Are we going to be children about this and say,

944
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:10,760
Speaker 4: because we've never had someone who has Scott Pioli comma

945
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 4: general manager but instead it was director of player personnel

946
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:17,840
Speaker 4: or whatever the title happened to be for each individual

947
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,880
Speaker 4: guy that we've never had a guy. Bill Belichick has

948
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 4: been the general manager at least since O four. Is

949
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:27,399
Speaker 4: that what Robert said the other day? After the third title? Right,

950
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:30,840
Speaker 4: Bill Belichick has been the general manager. Let's not be

951
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 4: children about this because they've never had a guy with

952
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:37,240
Speaker 4: the title general manager. He was, That's all, of course

953
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 4: he was. We didn't need to go on with.

954
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 1: That, all right, eight five to five pasts five hundred.

955
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 1: Let's open it up to the listeners tomorrow noon introductory

956
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:48,880
Speaker 1: press conference with girod Mayo. We'll have it live on

957
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 1: Patriots dot com until now, let's hear what you have

958
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:55,360
Speaker 1: to say until then. I mean, Sean's at Vancouver. What's up, Sean?

959
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 13: Hello? Everyone. If Megan is listening to she's going to

960
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 13: roll her eyes. But I still have my Gerard Mayo

961
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 13: jersey from two thousand and eight. I kept it all

962
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 13: these years and I don't think I'm getting rid of it.

963
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 13: But you know, even though I'm a huge fan, I'm

964
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 13: with Evan. I really think they need a GM who's

965
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 13: not the head coach. I think they need someone separate

966
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:19,760
Speaker 13: to do that job. And I was kind of hoping

967
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 13: they'd hire a GM before they announced the head coach's

968
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 13: that was my desire.

969
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 14: But I don't know.

970
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 13: Now I'm worried they won't even do that.

971
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:30,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I don't.

972
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 10: I'm not like it's caught up on the order ofs

973
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 10: and some other people. But I just this organization has

974
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 10: honestly been been blessed, where so many great football players,

975
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 10: football minds that have walked through the door that some

976
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 10: of these people have to be interested in coming back

977
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 10: to bring an experienced football mind to the equation, whether

978
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:59,279
Speaker 10: that's a former player like Gerard or it's bringing back

979
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:02,479
Speaker 10: a guy like poor Demittrop. And I'm not necessarily saying

980
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:04,799
Speaker 10: to make those guys a general manager, but can we

981
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 10: get like a consultant in the building too, like Dante whoever,

982
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 10: I'm not saying, like make that an official title.

983
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:15,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, it doesn't have to be GM, but a consultant.

984
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 10: Right like somebody that is a football person. I don't

985
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 10: want business people making football decisions. That's how you get

986
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 10: into trouble in any sport. And if they continue down

987
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 10: that path, then they're gonna they're not gonna go down

988
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:30,920
Speaker 10: a good route because it's gonna be all the you

989
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 10: know in the business world, familiarity and all this kind

990
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:36,720
Speaker 10: of you know the people, you know, nepotism, all that stuff.

991
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 10: That's that's what jives in the business world. In football,

992
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 10: you got to hire the best guy that's for the job.

993
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 10: And I think right now that you know, there's so

994
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 10: many guys that at least yeah they have like you know,

995
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 10: the name Zach Robinson's been thrown around a lot.

996
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:51,320
Speaker 4: I'm intrigued.

997
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:54,319
Speaker 10: Quarterbacks coach and pass game coordinator right now for the Rams.

998
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:57,840
Speaker 10: Obviously drafted by the Patriots, but he's coached under Sean

999
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 10: McVay for the past like four or five years, so

1000
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:05,399
Speaker 10: he will would bring the McVeigh system here while still

1001
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 10: having some roots and familiarity with how things are run

1002
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 10: in New England. Like those types of people need to

1003
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 10: have they need to be considered. And if you're just

1004
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:16,920
Speaker 10: gonna consider Josh McDaniels or Bill O'Brien, then how do

1005
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 10: you expect anything to be fit?

1006
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 4: And to your point, Freddie, like you said, like who's

1007
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 4: going to be listening, Well, that's the kind of guy

1008
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 4: I want listening to that stuff.

1009
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 1: Oh it's fair, Patty and idam, what's up Patty?

1010
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 15: Okay?

1011
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 7: Hey hey can you hear me?

1012
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 14: Okay?

1013
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 4: Yes, unfortunately, sorry, Paul, what's up, Patty?

1014
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 8: Yeah? He's opening his forkar you know.

1015
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 4: I love you, bro.

1016
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:44,839
Speaker 1: Paul's food here.

1017
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 14: I'm excited by the move. Definitely sounded choosing Mayo over Brabel.

1018
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:54,319
Speaker 14: Probably not that they chose him, it was written into

1019
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 14: his contract, but to me, it's stills more of like

1020
00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 14: them going towards the more new age approach. And I

1021
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 14: just want to caution other fans too, because I've already

1022
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:07,720
Speaker 14: seen a lot of negativity out there about the hire

1023
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:11,280
Speaker 14: that you know, the offense. There's a lot of glaring

1024
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 14: holes if you look at like across the board, we

1025
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 14: have zero tight ends roster next year.

1026
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 1: We know the offense has trouble, but yeah, yeah, we

1027
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 1: don't need to go down the list. We know the offense.

1028
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:27,399
Speaker 14: Yeah, might take a couple of years before it looks good.

1029
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 14: But I just wanted to ask you, guys, if you're

1030
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 14: making the pick at number three, what direction do you go?

1031
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 14: Do you take the quarterback? Do you take a tackle?

1032
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 14: Do you trade down and get more assets? Me personally,

1033
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 14: the guy that I would like to see them take

1034
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 14: his seat and Daniels and I'll take it off the.

1035
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 1: Aar Okay, Yeah, well, let's say that Caleb Williams is gone,

1036
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 1: but you will be. Let's say Drake may Is we

1037
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:56,360
Speaker 1: did cry, you know, but you probably will. Do you

1038
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:58,319
Speaker 1: take a quarterback with the third pack?

1039
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 10: But my fear right now with Jayden Dandaniels is that

1040
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 10: we're coping. We're coping at the fact that we can't

1041
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 10: get the top two right.

1042
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 4: So it's like, this is the guy that's left, he's

1043
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 4: right right, Yes, that's where I am.

1044
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 10: And I don't I don't want to take That's how

1045
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:13,279
Speaker 10: you end up with Zach Wilson is when you just

1046
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 10: take the guy that's left right or Mac Jones is

1047
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 10: probably even better example. And I think James Daniels is

1048
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 10: super talented. There's a lot to really love about his

1049
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 10: overall game, but as a passer, he needs refinement and

1050
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:28,919
Speaker 10: he needs work, and I would not throw him into

1051
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:30,880
Speaker 10: this mess. Like if you're going to tell me that

1052
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 10: they have all new tackles and all new receivers and

1053
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 10: a new coordinator and all this, then maybe it's a

1054
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:38,320
Speaker 10: different conversation. But with the information we have right now,

1055
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 10: I don't think that that's the type of guy that

1056
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 10: you throw into a system like this.

1057
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 6: I like what Evan said.

1058
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 7: I just I mean, I've found myself these last few

1059
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 7: days looking at the draft now through the lens of

1060
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:52,280
Speaker 7: a Jerrodmeo, Mac grow Ish, you know, Elliott Wolf type,

1061
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:55,280
Speaker 7: and it's it's hard for me to sell the tackle

1062
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 7: pick now. Like I think if Bill were still here,

1063
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 7: I could feel like I can sell the tackle pick.

1064
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 7: I just don't know. With a new coach with a

1065
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 7: new regime looking to put their stamp on it, I

1066
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:10,880
Speaker 7: almost lean back towards Chitten Daniels or even Marvin Harrison.

1067
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 7: I mean, and last week I would have said, I

1068
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:14,760
Speaker 7: I'm out on that. I don't think it's a good plan,

1069
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 7: but I think it could. It could make sense for

1070
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 7: this carew If.

1071
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:22,840
Speaker 1: You're an owner and you just fired your longtime coach

1072
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:24,919
Speaker 1: and you hired a guy who's never been the head

1073
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:27,880
Speaker 1: coach before you got all these problems with the offense,

1074
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 1: do you say to him in order so that he's

1075
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 1: not making knee jerk decisions, You've got three years, You've

1076
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 1: got three years to get us back to be a

1077
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 1: playoff contender. Or do you say, I want results right now,

1078
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:44,839
Speaker 1: and you know, put the pressure on him and now

1079
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 1: he's making decisions in the short term. What do you

1080
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 1: say to him?

1081
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 7: I mean, I think he has to know he has

1082
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:51,759
Speaker 7: some time. But look, we all know that this this

1083
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 7: business can change in the drop of a hat, and

1084
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 7: teams can turn things around. But I just think it's

1085
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 7: going to take huge cajones to not pick a quarterback.

1086
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 7: That's what would you what would you for a new

1087
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 7: regime for three years?

1088
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:05,320
Speaker 4: Two? You got to you got two to make progress.

1089
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 4: You don't have to like get me super Bowl caliber

1090
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 4: in two years, but you have to make progress in

1091
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 4: every round and you know second and it's hard.

1092
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 6: To say, well, hey we're going into your three this.

1093
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:20,760
Speaker 7: You know Joe Alt, He's he's been great.

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Speaker 6: Our offense is still.

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00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 7: Kind of mired because we don't have a quarterback, but

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00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 7: there's nobody screaming off the left edge unblocked anymore.

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Speaker 8: It's hard to sell it.

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00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 6: It's hard to sell it or Arson.

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00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:33,920
Speaker 4: I'm with Evan on on Daniels, like I am talking

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00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 4: myself into it, and I wonder if I'm doing too

1101
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 4: much talking myself into it and he's not really worth it.

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Speaker 10: But that because it isn't the fear that, because of

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00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 10: all the reasons why you just laid out, you reach

1104
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 10: on the quarterback because it's the pick that makes the

1105
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 10: most sense. And if that's what you're gonna do, then

1106
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 10: you could get yourself into trouble. Whereas if you do

1107
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 10: give Fred's three years. The methodical approach is what the

1108
00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:59,359
Speaker 10: Lions have done. It's what really the Texans have done

1109
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 10: when you really think about it. I mean they didn't

1110
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 10: get the quarterback until this past off season, and Casario

1111
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:05,880
Speaker 10: has been there for a couple of years already. Like,

1112
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:07,960
Speaker 10: if you just expect to fix all of it in

1113
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:10,760
Speaker 10: one off season. I think that you're you're in trouble.

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00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 7: I just I threw the scenario at Evan and I

1115
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:14,839
Speaker 7: was like, look, don't judge me, and like, people don't

1116
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 7: call in. I'm not telling you that this is what

1117
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 7: I want to have happened, right, don't.

1118
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 8: At me with this.

1119
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 7: But I'm just putting this scenario out there into the

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00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:26,320
Speaker 7: ether because I've recently kind of made the case of Chicago.

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00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 7: Keep Justin fields, build around him. You've got one more

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00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 7: year of him. If it doesn't work out, you.

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Speaker 1: Replaced so that a quarterback could drop to us.

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Speaker 8: So now we're talking, drink.

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00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:37,799
Speaker 7: May you bring back Josh, You put Mac back in there,

1126
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:40,800
Speaker 7: you give him Marvin Harrison, you draft him a tackle

1127
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 7: at the top of the second round, and then you

1128
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:43,840
Speaker 7: see what happens.

1129
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 10: I pointed the door to the door.

1130
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:49,239
Speaker 8: When he's yeah, that's what I want to do.

1131
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:52,840
Speaker 11: Come at me when you started to talk. When you

1132
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 11: started to talk, I was like, okay, you mean quarterback's

1133
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:58,760
Speaker 11: gonna fall in our lap. But similar to Mike's like theory,

1134
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:01,960
Speaker 11: my theory was, okay, maybe they'll decide like last minute, Okay,

1135
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:03,879
Speaker 11: we don't want to keep fields we're gonna trade him,

1136
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 11: or you know, Arizona, maybe they don't want Murray and

1137
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:08,799
Speaker 11: you'll they'll trade him. So what if you got one

1138
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:10,759
Speaker 11: of those guys, but then you were able to get

1139
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:12,319
Speaker 11: I'm curious, what.

1140
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Speaker 4: Were you gonna do at three if the if the

1141
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:18,920
Speaker 4: Bears marble barn the fields. Yeah, that's what you said,

1142
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:20,919
Speaker 4: right that. Your whole thing is predicated on the Bears.

1143
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:21,919
Speaker 4: We're gonna lead on the field.

1144
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:23,279
Speaker 7: Ye hold on the fields and do the same thing

1145
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 7: like draft Marvin Harrison for him, get him a tackle,

1146
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 7: you know what I mean?

1147
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:27,399
Speaker 6: Just hold around the story.

1148
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:28,720
Speaker 4: What are we doing with Mac Jones.

1149
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:29,759
Speaker 6: We're gonna build around him.

1150
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 7: We're gonna find Marvin Harrison and the Bears.

1151
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's always a scenario.

1152
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:39,359
Speaker 6: I know, but you're time.

1153
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 8: I mean, I would, I would. That was my joke.

1154
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 7: So I watched, So I did a lot of wide

1155
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 7: receivers I did, I know, I did. I watched a

1156
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:49,400
Speaker 7: bunch of the wide receivers and I made the.

1157
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:49,959
Speaker 8: Joke and everyone.

1158
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:52,719
Speaker 6: I don't know if you've heard this kid from LSU, but.

1159
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 4: NA interesting that you say that though, because there's so

1160
00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:59,880
Speaker 4: much talk about Harrison. You got to take Marvin Harrison

1161
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 4: far and away the best player. He's the generational generator.

1162
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 4: I heard Boomer size and say today you like to

1163
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:09,879
Speaker 4: say better. Yeah, I don't know about it. D I'm

1164
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 4: not telling you. I'm not. I'm not a talent evaluate

1165
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:15,359
Speaker 4: or expert. I don't pretend to be. But all right,

1166
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 4: so I'll pretend like when Andrew luck was coming out,

1167
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 4: there weren't a lot of people saying that, you know,

1168
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:22,880
Speaker 4: Fred kirsh was actually better than Andrew Lucky. He was

1169
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 4: when you're a transcendent, you know, player, right at that level,

1170
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:31,799
Speaker 4: there is really no disagreement, right, And I just was

1171
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 4: I think they're just you know, maybe it's just one

1172
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:36,399
Speaker 4: voice in the in the wilderness, and Boomer a dude

1173
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:36,919
Speaker 4: say it's.

1174
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 10: Saying a dude's ay. I think that's a little recency

1175
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 10: biased from the college football playoff because those guys didn't

1176
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:44,759
Speaker 10: play obviously in their bowl games and stuff like that,

1177
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:48,759
Speaker 10: so you don't have that. I think with Harrison and Neighbors,

1178
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 10: it's a little bit closer. And that's more just like stylistically,

1179
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:54,840
Speaker 10: what do you prefer like my conference? Marvin Harrison Junior

1180
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 10: is Devanta Adams, Right, He's a guy that has a

1181
00:51:57,560 --> 00:51:59,840
Speaker 10: frame of a six foot three, six foot four receiver,

1182
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:02,279
Speaker 10: but can break down like he's a much smaller guy,

1183
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:06,279
Speaker 10: whereas Neighbors is really Jamar Chase. Right, it's linear, explosive,

1184
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 10: down the field type of athlete. So like it's just

1185
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 10: whichever one you want is I would agree with that.

1186
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:13,120
Speaker 10: It's sort of like this game it out. So give

1187
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 10: them Neighbors then, right if Chicago took them. But what

1188
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:19,800
Speaker 10: I'm saying, like back Jones can't reach Molik Neighbors field

1189
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:23,320
Speaker 10: they are also, I mean, we'll see what happens.

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00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 4: I mean those top five receivers, his historically have not

1191
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:27,000
Speaker 4: been great.

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Speaker 1: Well, all right, one we come back. We'll take more

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Speaker 1: calls and emails. We'll also want to talk has the

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Speaker 1: sentiment for mac changed a little bit again? I will

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Speaker 1: talk about that after this.

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Speaker 12: And we are back with the Patriots of Fielder halftime show.

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00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:32,880
Speaker 12: This has been pushed due to someone for Sam's circumstances

1217
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Speaker 12: and gets by my tone. What happened today? We have

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Speaker 12: Faith yeah, co host, and I'm gonna let her run

1219
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:43,399
Speaker 12: trivia today before we get into uh our little show.

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Speaker 12: So Faith, Yes, let's go for running out.

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Speaker 17: Of questions here, We're runn out of questions we're coming

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Speaker 17: up with stuff. Matisse has given me the honor of

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Speaker 17: having the trivia today. So Matissea, as you always tell me,

1224
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Speaker 17: don't answer the questions, I gotcha. First question, what was

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00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:00,720
Speaker 17: the final play in the old Fox for A Stadium?

1226
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:06,320
Speaker 17: Second question, who was the first opponent to play in

1227
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 17: the Patriots new stadium, Chalett Stadium? Who did the Patriots

1228
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:15,399
Speaker 17: play first in Jalette Stadium? And last who did Doug

1229
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 17: Flutie do his famous last drop kick against? So a

1230
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Speaker 17: lot of opponents.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, all right, and send your answers in the web

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00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:24,960
Speaker 12: radio at Patriots dot com. You'll win something. I don't

1233
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:25,720
Speaker 12: know what we have anymore.

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Speaker 10: You're gonna win something really good.

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Speaker 12: We have a lot of good use. But Faith, as

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Speaker 12: I said earlier, this has been pushed a week or two,

1237
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 12: and so I have a little rant about college football

1238
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 12: and for the listeners, I am a very casual college

1239
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 12: football fan. I get more into it when it comes

1240
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:45,479
Speaker 12: to draft season and you know, more highlights. I watched

1241
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 12: the big games and so we just had Michigan beat

1242
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:53,120
Speaker 12: University Washington. And Faith is from South Carolina. I am

1243
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:56,800
Speaker 12: go Game Cocks, and so she's more of a college

1244
00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:59,360
Speaker 12: football guru than I am. And so I'm gonna go

1245
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:04,319
Speaker 12: through this. I have about seven five takes and I'm

1246
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:05,600
Speaker 12: gonna let Faith react to them.

1247
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 1: All right.

1248
00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:09,719
Speaker 12: This is for the playoff slash Championship, Okay, all right?

1249
00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:12,920
Speaker 12: And so my first yes and my first rant has

1250
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:15,560
Speaker 12: been addressed because the issue that four teams, what were

1251
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:19,080
Speaker 12: we doing now? Just bad to begin. Yes, FSU got screwed,

1252
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 12: Georgia got screwed, kind of like it's it's it's fixed,

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Speaker 12: that's fixed. That was rant number on.

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Speaker 17: Their game was ridiculous, all.

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Speaker 12: Right, issue won for real. Issue one, the game is

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00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:33,439
Speaker 12: too damn late. All right. I'm thirty years old. Yeah,

1257
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:36,680
Speaker 12: on the week days, I like to be in bed

1258
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:40,000
Speaker 12: before midnight. They pushed it up this year. I think

1259
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Speaker 12: it started at seven. The ball didn't get kicked off

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Speaker 12: the damn t until late fifteen.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, it's it's kind of become not to the level

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Speaker 17: of Army Navy, but there's so much pre game, so

1263
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 17: much hype around it, so much extra stuff, that you're right,

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Speaker 17: it is kind of pushed.

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Speaker 11: I also had them.

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Speaker 17: I'm twenty three, and I had the complaint that it

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Speaker 17: was too late, like I only stayed up till halftime.

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Speaker 1: It's crazy.

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Speaker 12: It's crazy, and so that ties into something else. But

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Speaker 12: that's number one.

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Speaker 11: That's very bad.

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Speaker 12: Okay, number two, the trophy sucks.

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Speaker 1: I like the the crystal ball.

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Speaker 17: Was great, but you can imagine probably how many times

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Speaker 17: like that's so breakable.

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Speaker 10: That's the problem.

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Speaker 12: It doesn't matter, it's you can get to do it.

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00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:22,520
Speaker 12: The trophy stinks. It used to say doctor Pepper on it. Okay,

1279
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:24,719
Speaker 12: that's a that's a full like, so every other team,

1280
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:27,280
Speaker 12: every other NCAA winner gets that like weird.

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00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:30,960
Speaker 17: See I would rather the college football playoff like the

1282
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:34,959
Speaker 17: football trophy than what the NCAA gives like every other team.

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00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:38,239
Speaker 12: Okay, just it needs to be fixed. You know, maybe

1284
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:39,960
Speaker 12: when they expand it they get rid of this thing.

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00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:40,399
Speaker 10: True.

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Speaker 17: But because I can say from being from South Carolina,

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Speaker 17: I saw plenty of women's basketball national championship trophies and

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00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 17: SEC tournament trophies. You know, had to had to flex that.

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Speaker 17: But they're not I would argue they're not as good

1290
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:53,400
Speaker 17: and or cool as you don't like the.

1291
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:56,000
Speaker 12: Gold like it's better now that doesn't say doctor Pepper

1292
00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:56,239
Speaker 12: on it.

1293
00:56:56,719 --> 00:56:58,840
Speaker 11: That's fair, but all the doctor Pepper fans probably liked it.

1294
00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:02,600
Speaker 12: Okaynumber three, we got making an event like the super Bowl,

1295
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:07,560
Speaker 12: like like we need more funny commercials, all right, just

1296
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:09,920
Speaker 12: like you're putting me through this game, and if you're like,

1297
00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:12,799
Speaker 12: just give me something as a casual fan, you know, oh,

1298
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:14,240
Speaker 12: like you know, funny commercial.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 17: Some people who don't like football would still want to

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Speaker 17: time in because there's something else.

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Speaker 12: It's just like a very blend fraud like yeah, like

1303
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:24,160
Speaker 12: and some of the games are good. Maybe it's just

1304
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:25,920
Speaker 12: tough because the game we just watched like it had

1305
00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:27,640
Speaker 12: it had moments, but it wasn't that good.

1306
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:30,880
Speaker 17: I think that's the problem is like the real weekend,

1307
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:34,520
Speaker 17: the real moment is those like semi final games. Those

1308
00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:36,520
Speaker 17: are the tight games, those are the exciting things. And

1309
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 17: then it's almost like you make it to the national

1310
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 17: championship and it's either too late. It's also less late

1311
00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:43,520
Speaker 17: in the season because they play it so late. It's

1312
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 17: like college football ends it like Thanksgiving.

1313
00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:49,120
Speaker 10: So then you've got this like really long break.

1314
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:51,560
Speaker 17: Of like bowl games. But you're just like by the

1315
00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:54,360
Speaker 17: time you roll into January. It's not that people don't care,

1316
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:56,880
Speaker 17: because people certainly care, but it's just there's such a

1317
00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:59,480
Speaker 17: big time period between the last regular season.

1318
00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:02,800
Speaker 12: War depending where you are Michigan. And all right, so

1319
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:07,720
Speaker 12: part three point five. If there's too many commercials, all right,

1320
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:10,480
Speaker 12: like like I wanted to, there's too many, Yes, and

1321
00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:12,560
Speaker 12: like that. I think that's that's not just a playoff issue.

1322
00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:15,960
Speaker 12: That's been that's the whole season. They got to fix that.

1323
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:18,560
Speaker 10: Yeah, there's a lot of TV breaks for sure.

1324
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 12: Question four, number four, Rant four, This is a big one.

1325
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:23,280
Speaker 12: Why is it on a Monday?

1326
00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:26,160
Speaker 1: Why like like like be on a Friday.

1327
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:29,400
Speaker 12: Maybe with the new expansion it gets pushed back. Yeah,

1328
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:31,360
Speaker 12: and maybe like you know, it's the week between the

1329
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:33,920
Speaker 12: super Bowl. I would love that, you know, having sudden Saturday.

1330
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:36,760
Speaker 12: But like like I either want to watch it on

1331
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:39,920
Speaker 12: a Friday or Saturday. You can't do Sunday. And now

1332
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:41,480
Speaker 12: you can't really do Surday because the NFL. I don't know,

1333
00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:42,800
Speaker 12: it's just Monday. What are we doing?

1334
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:44,360
Speaker 6: I feel like you.

1335
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:48,640
Speaker 17: Could really lean into Saturday because that's college football on Saturday. Yes,

1336
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:52,040
Speaker 17: And it's also tough, like you think about like, okay,

1337
00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:54,600
Speaker 17: like kids having to stay up late on the school night,

1338
00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:57,680
Speaker 17: adults like us, yes, like us having to stay.

1339
00:58:57,560 --> 00:58:58,160
Speaker 11: Up on a work night.

1340
00:58:58,200 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 12: If you want to go to a bar.

1341
00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:00,120
Speaker 1: Who was a bar?

1342
00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:01,880
Speaker 17: The kids aren't going to the bar, but you know

1343
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:04,600
Speaker 17: we might want to have to one. Yeah, so you

1344
00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:07,760
Speaker 17: agree with that, you're making valid points. I'm not saying

1345
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:08,680
Speaker 17: the system is perfect.

1346
00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:11,000
Speaker 12: And number number five, and so I wrote this list

1347
00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:15,240
Speaker 12: out at during the game because I was frustrated. Number five,

1348
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 12: This just goes to off college football. You gotta get

1349
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:20,200
Speaker 12: rid of the targeting rule, because I said, I said

1350
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:21,800
Speaker 12: when I sent this to my friend, get rid of

1351
00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:23,920
Speaker 12: the targeting rule because it's the worst rule. And I'm

1352
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 12: sure it's going to happen this game, and it almost did.

1353
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:28,400
Speaker 12: It almost happened at the end, and you're throwing a

1354
00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:31,600
Speaker 12: player out and it's just it's just bad. Yeah, that's

1355
00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:33,160
Speaker 12: once again, just for all of college football.

1356
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:36,400
Speaker 11: I can agree. I feel like there's certain rules.

1357
00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:39,080
Speaker 17: I've always had an interesting thought on the whole, like

1358
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:42,160
Speaker 17: one toe versus two toes, Like, if you're training college

1359
00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:44,440
Speaker 17: football players don't only get one toe in, how does

1360
00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:46,520
Speaker 17: that fully translate when you have to get two in

1361
00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:47,120
Speaker 17: the NFL?

1362
00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:49,880
Speaker 10: Like I feel like there should.

1363
00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:52,480
Speaker 17: Be more connection so that you're training players to know

1364
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:54,600
Speaker 17: exactly what's going to happen in the pros even if

1365
00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 17: you don't make it to the pros. God, So, I look,

1366
00:59:57,280 --> 01:00:00,440
Speaker 17: I think you're making valid points. I want some Carolina

1367
01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:02,040
Speaker 17: to win the national championship next year.

1368
01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:05,280
Speaker 12: It's just like, what if what if Michigan's like star

1369
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:08,440
Speaker 12: defensive back gets a targeting play in quarter one?

1370
01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:08,960
Speaker 10: Yeah?

1371
01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:10,000
Speaker 1: Done, and then it's done.

1372
01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:11,920
Speaker 12: Just I don't know it needs to be done, but

1373
01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:13,960
Speaker 12: that is that's my rant. I've been saying on that.

1374
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:17,240
Speaker 1: It clearly the game half a while ago. Faith.

1375
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:20,320
Speaker 12: Thank you for getting the trivia, of course, and all right,

1376
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:21,800
Speaker 12: let's get back to Patriots and filter.

1377
01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:29,040
Speaker 18: When someone accidentally threw the school play costumes, oh no,

1378
01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:33,040
Speaker 18: replacements were shipped with FedEx and with picture proof of delivery.

1379
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:36,919
Speaker 18: Everyone could focus on the perfect opening night FedEx where

1380
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:39,680
Speaker 18: now it's next for residential delivery.

1381
01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:43,680
Speaker 4: Only and now great moments in.

1382
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:49,240
Speaker 6: History. You know he was the fish with my grandfather, Yeah? Really?

1383
01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:49,919
Speaker 12: Wow?

1384
01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:54,360
Speaker 4: Please tell I know that he had a twenty eight

1385
01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:56,920
Speaker 4: to three shirt sholder. I don't know that his grandfather.

1386
01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:00,680
Speaker 1: They all used Shakespeare Rods Ted Williams.

1387
01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:04,200
Speaker 6: So my grandfather was longtime track coach at Tufts.

1388
01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:07,720
Speaker 7: From the early thirties all the way until he died

1389
01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:10,440
Speaker 7: in the early seventies and he developed a friendship with

1390
01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:14,320
Speaker 7: Ted Williams. There's there's some interesting newspaper articles that I've

1391
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:16,720
Speaker 7: dug up that it's my grandfather. I never met him

1392
01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:19,240
Speaker 7: die before I was born. Clarence ding Duso. The track

1393
01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:20,720
Speaker 7: of tous is named after him. But they used to

1394
01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:23,120
Speaker 7: go him and Ted would go up to up to

1395
01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:25,640
Speaker 7: New Brunswick where my grandfather did all the summers, and

1396
01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:29,000
Speaker 7: they would fish together, fly fishing. And this is the

1397
01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:35,160
Speaker 7: crazy story. John Henry Duso Williams. They named his middle

1398
01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:38,280
Speaker 7: name is Dusau after my grandfather. You go to newspapers

1399
01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:39,920
Speaker 7: dot com. You can do a lot of searching. I

1400
01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:42,800
Speaker 7: found one that's like, you know, du So teaches the

1401
01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:44,880
Speaker 7: Red Sox how to run. So my grandfather went down

1402
01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:47,400
Speaker 7: to Florida and was talking to them about like speed

1403
01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:50,080
Speaker 7: and stuff. So yeah, so it's he's he's got a

1404
01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:51,000
Speaker 7: he's got a whole story.

1405
01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:52,640
Speaker 4: I've got his whole all this st I got a feeling.

1406
01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:55,760
Speaker 7: There's a lot of stories that deuces and I'm getting

1407
01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:56,880
Speaker 7: through them slowly but surely.

1408
01:01:56,960 --> 01:01:58,520
Speaker 8: But that's one of the better ones.

1409
01:01:58,560 --> 01:01:59,000
Speaker 4: That's great.

1410
01:01:59,120 --> 01:02:02,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, all those stories, you're kind of a disappointment.

1411
01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:05,360
Speaker 4: That's another great moment from.

1412
01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:09,960
Speaker 1: Now I know the reason you played that is just

1413
01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:11,439
Speaker 1: have an excuse to play the song.

1414
01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:13,160
Speaker 8: So let's hear.

1415
01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:13,920
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1416
01:02:14,160 --> 01:02:15,840
Speaker 6: People have been saying this has been get stuck in

1417
01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:17,320
Speaker 6: their head face.

1418
01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:19,560
Speaker 12: Okay, here we go.

1419
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:24,040
Speaker 3: This one's for Mike to, so yeah, there we go.

1420
01:02:25,160 --> 01:02:26,400
Speaker 11: This one's for Mike or So.

1421
01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:29,960
Speaker 3: He made his name and bloggy and he's a youth

1422
01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:30,920
Speaker 3: hockey referee.

1423
01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:34,520
Speaker 4: Don't you ever again those.

1424
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:38,920
Speaker 3: Twenty eight to three ties. He's lessing the picks and

1425
01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:42,120
Speaker 3: he's sneaking negative but he knows his.

1426
01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:43,640
Speaker 7: Hood is and he knows them good.

1427
01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:47,160
Speaker 3: Did you know that he used to live in Hollywood. Okay,

1428
01:02:49,160 --> 01:02:52,840
Speaker 3: this one's for Mike to, so yeah, there we go.

1429
01:02:53,960 --> 01:03:01,560
Speaker 3: This one's for Mike to so, okay, go he's snaking egg. Okay,

1430
01:03:03,560 --> 01:03:04,760
Speaker 3: this one's might do.

1431
01:03:04,920 --> 01:03:07,320
Speaker 6: So all right, thank you?

1432
01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:08,640
Speaker 1: Just stuff just so good.

1433
01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:11,320
Speaker 8: It's stuff the Okay, that's the.

1434
01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:13,120
Speaker 6: Second one that it's just so good.

1435
01:03:13,720 --> 01:03:15,480
Speaker 7: And as they ready ported it out since the song,

1436
01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:17,680
Speaker 7: you know, the Cowboys haven't haven't won a game yet, so.

1437
01:03:18,280 --> 01:03:21,400
Speaker 4: And then they curse the Cowboys. They had the ball

1438
01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:23,720
Speaker 4: for about nine thousand snaps of that game. Trying to

1439
01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:26,280
Speaker 4: come back in the second half too, So okay.

1440
01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:28,280
Speaker 7: All the time, and it's so annoying, right, I mean

1441
01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:29,360
Speaker 7: they must annoy everybody.

1442
01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:31,280
Speaker 6: Does that annoy everybody? It's all I can hear the

1443
01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:31,680
Speaker 6: whole game.

1444
01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:34,760
Speaker 4: It's just it just makes me chuckle now every single time.

1445
01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:36,760
Speaker 10: But you're you curse the Cowboys.

1446
01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:39,560
Speaker 4: You're like JJ Reddick and we invented that. You and

1447
01:03:39,600 --> 01:03:43,240
Speaker 4: I were the first ones on that. We were like

1448
01:03:43,320 --> 01:03:43,880
Speaker 4: listening to the.

1449
01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:49,840
Speaker 1: TV like, is he saying okay, yeah, so that is

1450
01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:54,080
Speaker 1: Jill's uh that's the last name again, Jill new Hampshire.

1451
01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:59,000
Speaker 1: Just Jill from New Hampshire. Yeah, great, great, great song

1452
01:03:59,320 --> 01:04:01,520
Speaker 1: all right before or the break I kind of teased

1453
01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:04,160
Speaker 1: a little bit about the sentiment for mac Jones because

1454
01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:06,320
Speaker 1: it's been kind of a roller coaster. Obviously, when he

1455
01:04:06,440 --> 01:04:08,920
Speaker 1: was drafted, it was like, okay, great, we've got this

1456
01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:13,960
Speaker 1: guy from Alabama. Uh, you know, best rookie season, you know,

1457
01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:16,760
Speaker 1: a long time for any quarterback and all this stuff,

1458
01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:20,919
Speaker 1: and then obviously last year went down, went down even

1459
01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:24,160
Speaker 1: further this year. But is is he starting to get

1460
01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:26,280
Speaker 1: a little bit more support now that these stories are

1461
01:04:26,320 --> 01:04:29,800
Speaker 1: coming out and how it was a situation where hardly

1462
01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:33,200
Speaker 1: anyone could have succeeded in. Is he getting a little

1463
01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:37,720
Speaker 1: sympathy these days as compared to like a month ago,

1464
01:04:37,920 --> 01:04:39,040
Speaker 1: I mean, not for me.

1465
01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:40,720
Speaker 8: I don't know.

1466
01:04:41,320 --> 01:04:42,840
Speaker 6: I mean, I I sense it.

1467
01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:45,520
Speaker 4: I mean I haven't heard much I have. I mean,

1468
01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:49,080
Speaker 4: I mean, the Macalytes they're still there. They were there

1469
01:04:49,160 --> 01:04:51,760
Speaker 4: during the season. This isn't his fault. Macau have no

1470
01:04:51,880 --> 01:04:52,640
Speaker 4: offensive line.

1471
01:04:54,680 --> 01:04:56,400
Speaker 6: We've got to run it back with Mac, run it

1472
01:04:56,440 --> 01:04:57,000
Speaker 6: back with Mac.

1473
01:04:57,040 --> 01:04:57,439
Speaker 8: That's why.

1474
01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:01,480
Speaker 7: I just, I mean, we're talking about it upstairs a

1475
01:05:01,480 --> 01:05:03,000
Speaker 7: little bit, and it's, you know, it's as hard as

1476
01:05:03,040 --> 01:05:04,080
Speaker 7: things were for Mac Jones.

1477
01:05:04,120 --> 01:05:06,680
Speaker 6: I just I think you would have seen something if

1478
01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:07,480
Speaker 6: there was something there.

1479
01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:09,520
Speaker 7: And that's why there's still people out there that say, oh,

1480
01:05:09,600 --> 01:05:11,840
Speaker 7: you know, and I always go back to what Bill said,

1481
01:05:11,840 --> 01:05:13,200
Speaker 7: he can play in this league, like you know. I mean,

1482
01:05:13,240 --> 01:05:15,160
Speaker 7: it's it's I think there's still people that think he

1483
01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:17,360
Speaker 7: can play in this league. And that's why I brought

1484
01:05:17,400 --> 01:05:19,120
Speaker 7: up that scenario, which was one hundred percent not a

1485
01:05:19,160 --> 01:05:21,640
Speaker 7: real scenario that I'm advocating for everybody who's writing in

1486
01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:26,280
Speaker 7: right now to yell at me, but like trot Nixon

1487
01:05:26,320 --> 01:05:28,360
Speaker 7: over the back right now, I took it back over

1488
01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:32,560
Speaker 7: the break, but I just I think he deserves probably

1489
01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:34,880
Speaker 7: a clean break. But I don't really believe that he's

1490
01:05:34,920 --> 01:05:37,280
Speaker 7: going to go elsewhere and suddenly flourish.

1491
01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:38,560
Speaker 6: I think he kind of is what he is.

1492
01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:42,360
Speaker 1: So let's just say that they do get you know,

1493
01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:45,480
Speaker 1: a quarterback in the first round. Does he deserve at

1494
01:05:45,560 --> 01:05:48,160
Speaker 1: least to get to training camp and fight for a

1495
01:05:48,240 --> 01:05:49,480
Speaker 1: starting job for this year?

1496
01:05:49,640 --> 01:05:49,680
Speaker 11: No?

1497
01:05:50,120 --> 01:05:51,600
Speaker 1: No, no, well not.

1498
01:05:51,720 --> 01:05:54,360
Speaker 10: Because he doesn't like deserve it. I don't know about that,

1499
01:05:54,520 --> 01:05:56,560
Speaker 10: but I just don't think that him wore Bailey Zappi's

1500
01:05:56,600 --> 01:05:59,400
Speaker 10: the right guy for that role. Yeah, Like, if you're

1501
01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:02,840
Speaker 10: going to draft a quarterback three overall, that's your quarterback, right, Like,

1502
01:06:02,920 --> 01:06:04,520
Speaker 10: it's not like Mac Jones going to beat him out

1503
01:06:04,520 --> 01:06:04,800
Speaker 10: in trail.

1504
01:06:04,960 --> 01:06:07,200
Speaker 1: But we we've also talked about wouldn't it be nice

1505
01:06:07,240 --> 01:06:09,040
Speaker 1: to just have a veteran so that he doesn't have

1506
01:06:09,120 --> 01:06:10,000
Speaker 1: to be thrown.

1507
01:06:09,760 --> 01:06:12,920
Speaker 10: Into the ve right, Like if you want to bring

1508
01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:15,200
Speaker 10: in Gardner Minshew or that's a veteran now.

1509
01:06:15,160 --> 01:06:17,440
Speaker 11: No, but I would not want a broken veteran leading

1510
01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:18,800
Speaker 11: my young rookie quarterback.

1511
01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:21,880
Speaker 10: Like, you know, you need you need the Brian Hoyer

1512
01:06:22,040 --> 01:06:25,360
Speaker 10: mentor type guy like obviously can be better than Brian Hoyer,

1513
01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:28,600
Speaker 10: but in terms of actually playing, but you need the

1514
01:06:29,080 --> 01:06:33,160
Speaker 10: Jacoby Brisseid, the Gardner minshew uh to someone that has

1515
01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:36,560
Speaker 10: no there's no notion that he could be starting or

1516
01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:41,240
Speaker 10: like think anything differently of I'm here to mentor Jayden Daniel.

1517
01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:43,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it. I'm not saying that, you know, if

1518
01:06:43,960 --> 01:06:45,960
Speaker 1: you kept Mac there would be a notion that he

1519
01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:48,840
Speaker 1: would start if you picked somebody in the top three.

1520
01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:52,240
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that he's a place he's a placeholder.

1521
01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:54,800
Speaker 7: I mean, I just would speak also talk to Andy

1522
01:06:54,840 --> 01:06:56,560
Speaker 7: and Fitzi this weekend about this. Is like I mean,

1523
01:06:56,560 --> 01:06:59,080
Speaker 7: I always advocate draft a quarterback every year. I mean,

1524
01:06:59,080 --> 01:07:02,320
Speaker 7: I'm not in the business of just casting aside quarterbacks

1525
01:07:02,360 --> 01:07:04,400
Speaker 7: unless you really need to. I think it's just you know,

1526
01:07:04,520 --> 01:07:06,760
Speaker 7: you never know when you're gonna need one, and you

1527
01:07:06,920 --> 01:07:09,560
Speaker 7: have put a lot into Mac. I'm again I stated

1528
01:07:09,600 --> 01:07:11,200
Speaker 7: at the top, I don't think it's it's there. But

1529
01:07:11,400 --> 01:07:13,040
Speaker 7: at the same time, I think there is an argument

1530
01:07:13,080 --> 01:07:15,800
Speaker 7: to be made of let him come in and fight

1531
01:07:15,960 --> 01:07:18,400
Speaker 7: and let's you know, see what emerges from that. I mean,

1532
01:07:18,440 --> 01:07:20,880
Speaker 7: I think there I would be against that argument, but

1533
01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:23,680
Speaker 7: I just generally think when you need a quarterback this bad,

1534
01:07:23,760 --> 01:07:25,960
Speaker 7: you've got to turn over every single rock that you

1535
01:07:26,040 --> 01:07:27,960
Speaker 7: possibly can and try to figure out not only how

1536
01:07:27,960 --> 01:07:29,520
Speaker 7: to find the guy, but you know, how to bring

1537
01:07:29,600 --> 01:07:31,320
Speaker 7: the best play out of the guys that you saw.

1538
01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:33,280
Speaker 1: No one else is sensing like a little bit of

1539
01:07:33,360 --> 01:07:34,080
Speaker 1: turning of the time.

1540
01:07:34,120 --> 01:07:36,720
Speaker 7: I mean, I just so much focused on Bill and

1541
01:07:36,920 --> 01:07:39,040
Speaker 7: back and forth and Mayo and all that.

1542
01:07:39,360 --> 01:07:43,760
Speaker 1: Certainly, certainly some of the story details cast him as

1543
01:07:43,800 --> 01:07:46,160
Speaker 1: a sympathetic figure a little bit not.

1544
01:07:46,280 --> 01:07:47,760
Speaker 7: To me, But I mean there was the thing of

1545
01:07:47,800 --> 01:07:49,920
Speaker 7: hearing multiple voices in his headset. I mean that was

1546
01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:51,720
Speaker 7: one thing I read that you know, I don't know.

1547
01:07:51,760 --> 01:07:54,000
Speaker 10: That's crazy, Yeah, that one. I just don't really like that.

1548
01:07:54,160 --> 01:07:56,560
Speaker 10: I need more information, Like I feel like that was

1549
01:07:56,600 --> 01:07:58,720
Speaker 10: it's thrown out there, and I just.

1550
01:07:58,760 --> 01:08:01,080
Speaker 6: Need the frequencies were and they were talking.

1551
01:08:00,920 --> 01:08:06,160
Speaker 4: About they were listening to Scott zoat right, I would say,

1552
01:08:06,440 --> 01:08:08,680
Speaker 4: and don't just because I don't think it's been a

1553
01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:10,520
Speaker 4: change in the ground swell or anything like that, I

1554
01:08:10,600 --> 01:08:13,560
Speaker 4: still hear the occasional calls that are telling you that

1555
01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:17,280
Speaker 4: no one could have succeeded under that scenario. Right, The Macolites.

1556
01:08:17,320 --> 01:08:19,760
Speaker 4: That's you know what. I I still think there are

1557
01:08:19,800 --> 01:08:22,360
Speaker 4: people I was on for four hours on Sunday and

1558
01:08:23,280 --> 01:08:25,439
Speaker 4: we got a handful of calls that was saying, don't

1559
01:08:25,439 --> 01:08:28,200
Speaker 4: you think it makes sense? And it's like, no, I

1560
01:08:28,320 --> 01:08:31,160
Speaker 4: really don't. Now. I also don't think that Mac will

1561
01:08:31,200 --> 01:08:32,479
Speaker 4: want any part of coming back.

1562
01:08:32,920 --> 01:08:34,320
Speaker 6: That's that's probably the best.

1563
01:08:34,400 --> 01:08:37,360
Speaker 4: Like, I think probably one of the first orders of

1564
01:08:37,400 --> 01:08:40,519
Speaker 4: business in the off season will be Mac going to

1565
01:08:41,360 --> 01:08:45,439
Speaker 4: Robert Craft and in asking to be request to be

1566
01:08:45,560 --> 01:08:48,560
Speaker 4: sent somewhere. And I think that that would be in

1567
01:08:48,640 --> 01:08:50,200
Speaker 4: everybody's best interest to grant that.

1568
01:08:50,520 --> 01:08:54,600
Speaker 10: I think that I'm with you, Paul, that Mac is

1569
01:08:54,640 --> 01:08:56,360
Speaker 10: not the guy, and we would have I think, Deuce

1570
01:08:56,439 --> 01:08:58,400
Speaker 10: you said like we would have seen something if we

1571
01:08:58,479 --> 01:09:01,400
Speaker 10: felt that way. You know that that like Trevor Lawrence

1572
01:09:01,560 --> 01:09:04,599
Speaker 10: in the in the Urban Meyer year, right, no one

1573
01:09:04,800 --> 01:09:09,320
Speaker 10: was gonna truly succeed with that Urban Meyer Jaguars team,

1574
01:09:09,600 --> 01:09:11,880
Speaker 10: and I think it's similar with Mac over the last

1575
01:09:11,920 --> 01:09:15,360
Speaker 10: two years. But Trevor Lawrence clearly showed things in that

1576
01:09:15,560 --> 01:09:17,479
Speaker 10: Urban Meyer year that were like, all right, once he

1577
01:09:17,600 --> 01:09:20,519
Speaker 10: gets a stable environment around him, this guy's going to

1578
01:09:20,560 --> 01:09:22,400
Speaker 10: be pretty good. And I just don't know if we

1579
01:09:22,479 --> 01:09:25,400
Speaker 10: ever really saw that level play for mac Jones. But

1580
01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:28,719
Speaker 10: I agree with the sentiment that nobody last two years,

1581
01:09:28,800 --> 01:09:31,920
Speaker 10: nobody was going to succeed with this Matt Patricia calling

1582
01:09:32,000 --> 01:09:34,120
Speaker 10: plays and then the talent that they had this year,

1583
01:09:34,439 --> 01:09:34,800
Speaker 10: No way.

1584
01:09:35,680 --> 01:09:38,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I don't know. I mean, like if the

1585
01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:42,160
Speaker 1: stories are true about how it was supposed to be

1586
01:09:42,200 --> 01:09:44,680
Speaker 1: a collaborative pick. But Bill really wanted to wait for

1587
01:09:44,800 --> 01:09:47,760
Speaker 1: Davis Mills. He was perfectly content to do that. You know,

1588
01:09:47,880 --> 01:09:50,240
Speaker 1: he felt he was pressured and didn't really give him

1589
01:09:50,240 --> 01:09:54,160
Speaker 1: any help. Does he become a sympathetic figure within these walls?

1590
01:09:54,960 --> 01:09:56,960
Speaker 4: You know, I don't know, Bill, you're saying or noh

1591
01:09:57,520 --> 01:10:00,519
Speaker 4: for the craft, I think that happened. Yeah, I think

1592
01:10:00,560 --> 01:10:03,479
Speaker 4: he became a sympathetic figure within these walls over the

1593
01:10:03,560 --> 01:10:04,040
Speaker 4: last two.

1594
01:10:04,360 --> 01:10:06,920
Speaker 1: Carry over to twenty twenty four, and give him one

1595
01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:10,840
Speaker 1: more shot if they paid attention. Yeah, Like I'm just

1596
01:10:10,920 --> 01:10:12,679
Speaker 1: throwing it out there, like, yeah.

1597
01:10:12,640 --> 01:10:15,960
Speaker 4: He's facilitating Like like I'll say, like Trevor Lawrence, right

1598
01:10:16,280 --> 01:10:19,439
Speaker 4: that Evan brought up, He's had his struggles for three years.

1599
01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:21,479
Speaker 4: He's been a little up and down. He hasn't he

1600
01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:25,760
Speaker 4: hasn't really established himself, as you know, in that echelon

1601
01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:28,599
Speaker 4: with you know, the other good quarterbacks in the AFC.

1602
01:10:29,439 --> 01:10:33,519
Speaker 4: But I haven't seen him handle this stuff like you remember,

1603
01:10:33,560 --> 01:10:35,040
Speaker 4: do you remember, like his rookie year when there was

1604
01:10:35,080 --> 01:10:37,920
Speaker 4: a whole thing about the quarterback sneak. Yeah, he didn't

1605
01:10:38,040 --> 01:10:39,000
Speaker 4: kill urban Meyer.

1606
01:10:38,880 --> 01:10:41,400
Speaker 10: For yeah, I mean he didn't kill He had plenty

1607
01:10:41,439 --> 01:10:43,040
Speaker 10: of opportunities to throw urban Meyer.

1608
01:10:43,120 --> 01:10:45,320
Speaker 4: He was I'm not a guy, and I'm not telling

1609
01:10:45,360 --> 01:10:48,000
Speaker 4: you he did everything perfectly right like, So you know,

1610
01:10:48,520 --> 01:10:50,960
Speaker 4: whenever you say something like that, someone will immediately send

1611
01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:53,599
Speaker 4: you a link to a story from four years ago

1612
01:10:53,720 --> 01:10:56,760
Speaker 4: where he said that urban Meyer's a meanie, you know. Like,

1613
01:10:56,920 --> 01:11:01,920
Speaker 4: I just feel like, in general term, he's handled his

1614
01:11:02,080 --> 01:11:03,960
Speaker 4: three years of ups and downs a lot better than

1615
01:11:03,960 --> 01:11:04,680
Speaker 4: Mac Jones has.

1616
01:11:05,120 --> 01:11:07,439
Speaker 10: I think that's part of it, though, right like, And

1617
01:11:07,560 --> 01:11:09,280
Speaker 10: that's why I'm out of the franchise.

1618
01:11:09,439 --> 01:11:12,479
Speaker 4: That's why I'm out because I haven't seen the ups, yeah,

1619
01:11:12,640 --> 01:11:14,160
Speaker 4: and I only saw the downs.

1620
01:11:14,280 --> 01:11:15,640
Speaker 10: And to be honest with you, I think if we

1621
01:11:15,720 --> 01:11:18,639
Speaker 10: weren't coming off of Mac Jones, then it wouldn't worry

1622
01:11:18,720 --> 01:11:21,519
Speaker 10: me as much. But like Caleb Williams, that part of

1623
01:11:21,560 --> 01:11:24,120
Speaker 10: it were not the nail painting and the crying and

1624
01:11:24,200 --> 01:11:27,960
Speaker 10: all that stuff. But just like the maturity of him

1625
01:11:28,439 --> 01:11:30,880
Speaker 10: right now, and like how he's going to handle adversity

1626
01:11:30,960 --> 01:11:33,840
Speaker 10: and how he's going to handle you know, the Boston media.

1627
01:11:34,080 --> 01:11:36,439
Speaker 4: And here's where I'm a fraud. And I'll be fully

1628
01:11:36,680 --> 01:11:39,759
Speaker 4: bitting that I'm a fraud. I'm not as worried about

1629
01:11:39,760 --> 01:11:42,320
Speaker 4: those things because of the talent. If mac Jones had

1630
01:11:42,360 --> 01:11:45,960
Speaker 4: that kind of talent, I would absolutely be a fraud.

1631
01:11:46,040 --> 01:11:47,960
Speaker 4: And tell you that doesn't bother me as much.

1632
01:11:48,200 --> 01:11:51,080
Speaker 7: That's why I'd been more forgiving for some magic, laid

1633
01:11:51,120 --> 01:11:52,280
Speaker 7: down magic field.

1634
01:11:52,320 --> 01:11:54,760
Speaker 10: That's why I'd still take him. But I think that

1635
01:11:54,880 --> 01:11:57,600
Speaker 10: there are those concerns I feel like that people have

1636
01:11:57,800 --> 01:11:59,920
Speaker 10: about him. If you're if you're talking about it in

1637
01:12:00,040 --> 01:12:02,960
Speaker 10: the right way, if you're talking about him painting his nails,

1638
01:12:02,960 --> 01:12:04,679
Speaker 10: and you lose me. But like if you're talking about

1639
01:12:04,680 --> 01:12:07,880
Speaker 10: the maturity the football character of the player in terms

1640
01:12:07,920 --> 01:12:09,880
Speaker 10: of his maturity level, then I think that that's a

1641
01:12:09,960 --> 01:12:10,640
Speaker 10: legitimate right.

1642
01:12:11,000 --> 01:12:14,920
Speaker 4: The Pealisero piece today a tweet talking about him already

1643
01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:16,920
Speaker 4: at one of those He's already in his pre draft.

1644
01:12:17,320 --> 01:12:18,880
Speaker 4: You know, I know a lot of the other guys

1645
01:12:18,920 --> 01:12:21,200
Speaker 4: are too. I'm not saying that Caleb Williams is unique,

1646
01:12:21,600 --> 01:12:24,040
Speaker 4: but for a guy who supposedly it's not that important

1647
01:12:24,080 --> 01:12:26,120
Speaker 4: and this and that, it seems like I see a.

1648
01:12:26,120 --> 01:12:29,320
Speaker 1: Little bit of not not from playing ability, but personally,

1649
01:12:29,360 --> 01:12:31,600
Speaker 1: I see a little bit of Cam Newton and Caleb.

1650
01:12:31,360 --> 01:12:33,240
Speaker 4: Williams, and I would sign up for that in a blink.

1651
01:12:33,360 --> 01:12:36,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, ten years of Cam, I take an MVP because

1652
01:12:36,200 --> 01:12:37,360
Speaker 1: he used that playing.

1653
01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:40,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh god, there's I just.

1654
01:12:40,280 --> 01:12:42,200
Speaker 10: Wish that the conversation not to make this like a

1655
01:12:42,280 --> 01:12:45,200
Speaker 10: Caleb Williams show, but like, I just wish the conversation

1656
01:12:45,280 --> 01:12:48,679
Speaker 10: around Caleb Williams was actually like talking about the pros

1657
01:12:48,720 --> 01:12:51,080
Speaker 10: and cons of him as a football player, because I

1658
01:12:51,120 --> 01:12:54,160
Speaker 10: don't he's not a perfect prospect on film and not

1659
01:12:54,560 --> 01:12:56,880
Speaker 10: no one is, but like he's not. I don't think

1660
01:12:56,920 --> 01:12:58,240
Speaker 10: he's in like the Andrew.

1661
01:12:58,000 --> 01:13:00,720
Speaker 4: Luck Yeah, and that's right, that's my benchmark, you know,

1662
01:13:01,640 --> 01:13:05,320
Speaker 4: I don't. I never heard one really negative word that

1663
01:13:05,840 --> 01:13:07,479
Speaker 4: draft process about Andrew Luck.

1664
01:13:07,520 --> 01:13:09,840
Speaker 7: Well, you know, while I was watching Nabors this weekend

1665
01:13:10,040 --> 01:13:12,400
Speaker 7: along with the rest I watched that. I watched the

1666
01:13:12,479 --> 01:13:14,320
Speaker 7: quarterbacks and the interceders. But this was my thought on

1667
01:13:14,479 --> 01:13:17,600
Speaker 7: on on on Caleb Williams was like, why do I

1668
01:13:17,680 --> 01:13:19,920
Speaker 7: see so many plays where he drops back good pocket,

1669
01:13:19,960 --> 01:13:22,479
Speaker 7: He sits there, he sits there, he breaks the pocket,

1670
01:13:22,720 --> 01:13:25,160
Speaker 7: he runs around for a minute, and then he just

1671
01:13:25,320 --> 01:13:26,840
Speaker 7: like chucks it and it's like, well.

1672
01:13:26,880 --> 01:13:27,960
Speaker 1: With his feet off the ground.

1673
01:13:28,280 --> 01:13:31,000
Speaker 4: Well maybe not that extreme, but you know it's just

1674
01:13:31,040 --> 01:13:32,800
Speaker 4: like like Jordan Love on Sunday.

1675
01:13:33,240 --> 01:13:35,920
Speaker 7: That's what the big product, that's what they always like

1676
01:13:36,040 --> 01:13:38,519
Speaker 7: A great majority of things when you watch like what

1677
01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:41,360
Speaker 7: makes Caleb Williams great, it's like and sometimes it's like

1678
01:13:41,800 --> 01:13:43,680
Speaker 7: he doesn't he breaks the pocket on his own, Like.

1679
01:13:43,720 --> 01:13:45,879
Speaker 4: It's not like there's pressure rightnything definitely holds.

1680
01:13:47,520 --> 01:13:49,360
Speaker 7: And so you know it's just I mean, it's in

1681
01:13:49,479 --> 01:13:51,360
Speaker 7: and you realize again and I've said this, I'm gonna

1682
01:13:51,360 --> 01:13:52,760
Speaker 7: say this one hundred times this spring. This is what

1683
01:13:52,840 --> 01:13:54,800
Speaker 7: I've taken from these last few drafts is that there

1684
01:13:54,800 --> 01:13:56,400
Speaker 7: are one or two quarterbacks in this and I don't

1685
01:13:56,400 --> 01:13:58,120
Speaker 7: know if it's Caleb Williams or not, but there's one

1686
01:13:58,200 --> 01:14:00,240
Speaker 7: or two maybe and the rest of these guys are

1687
01:14:00,280 --> 01:14:01,960
Speaker 7: all going to fail. And that like I have this

1688
01:14:02,120 --> 01:14:04,920
Speaker 7: new like negative pessimistic view of the quarterbacks now of

1689
01:14:05,280 --> 01:14:07,000
Speaker 7: why are they all and.

1690
01:14:07,080 --> 01:14:09,280
Speaker 4: I would be willing to accept that if you do

1691
01:14:09,400 --> 01:14:11,080
Speaker 4: that all to all the other positions too.

1692
01:14:11,280 --> 01:14:11,519
Speaker 10: Sure.

1693
01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:14,599
Speaker 4: I mean because that Matthew, there will be there will

1694
01:14:14,640 --> 01:14:16,639
Speaker 4: be four or five tackles taken in the first round,

1695
01:14:16,880 --> 01:14:18,400
Speaker 4: and one or two of them will be able to play,

1696
01:14:18,760 --> 01:14:21,519
Speaker 4: and everybody will ignore the other three that busted because

1697
01:14:21,560 --> 01:14:25,520
Speaker 4: they're tackles and no one everything in Greg Bernard.

1698
01:14:25,240 --> 01:14:27,200
Speaker 1: And Matthew Stafford in his prime.

1699
01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:31,040
Speaker 8: One wasn't.

1700
01:14:31,600 --> 01:14:33,920
Speaker 7: Well, that's I mean, But that's what's funny, is like,

1701
01:14:34,000 --> 01:14:36,639
Speaker 7: I mean, you know, I think I get what you're

1702
01:14:36,640 --> 01:14:38,560
Speaker 7: getting at. I mean, and I'm not really I'm not

1703
01:14:38,600 --> 01:14:40,600
Speaker 7: really trying to use this as an argument. I know

1704
01:14:41,160 --> 01:14:44,000
Speaker 7: this was more, but I've almost found myself going more

1705
01:14:44,040 --> 01:14:47,160
Speaker 7: towards wide receiver land then going to tackle land.

1706
01:14:47,200 --> 01:14:49,360
Speaker 4: It's just okay, And I would use I would use

1707
01:14:49,360 --> 01:14:52,040
Speaker 4: the same argument there. And I'm not talking about Listen,

1708
01:14:52,120 --> 01:14:55,920
Speaker 4: there's going to be thirty forty wide receivers taken and

1709
01:14:56,000 --> 01:15:00,960
Speaker 4: they'll be ten good ones. Yeah, I'm talking about the

1710
01:15:01,080 --> 01:15:02,680
Speaker 4: four or five that are going to go in the

1711
01:15:02,720 --> 01:15:05,559
Speaker 4: first round or whatever. Two of them will be good.

1712
01:15:05,600 --> 01:15:06,800
Speaker 4: How Kevin White work out?

1713
01:15:07,200 --> 01:15:08,840
Speaker 8: Who I do?

1714
01:15:10,280 --> 01:15:13,240
Speaker 10: I do hope that we did, like high for wide

1715
01:15:13,280 --> 01:15:16,120
Speaker 10: receivers have changed from the Kevin White years where just

1716
01:15:16,320 --> 01:15:19,320
Speaker 10: big man run fast, you know, like I hope that we've.

1717
01:15:19,439 --> 01:15:22,360
Speaker 4: I just feel like people you know, it's like Jamar

1718
01:15:22,479 --> 01:15:25,439
Speaker 4: Chase and Justin Jefferson. I mean, this guy's like Jalen Waddle.

1719
01:15:25,479 --> 01:15:27,600
Speaker 4: They knocked it out of the park. Yeah, and there

1720
01:15:27,640 --> 01:15:28,880
Speaker 4: are other guys that get taken.

1721
01:15:28,920 --> 01:15:32,200
Speaker 10: You don't remember Kalen Raker, Quenton.

1722
01:15:31,960 --> 01:15:33,800
Speaker 6: Johnston remember him right?

1723
01:15:33,880 --> 01:15:37,200
Speaker 10: Not the reason rock did you go to see that?

1724
01:15:37,280 --> 01:15:41,920
Speaker 4: Somebody gave him an all provo as a returner. I

1725
01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:44,320
Speaker 4: assume it was as a return makes sense.

1726
01:15:44,560 --> 01:15:45,400
Speaker 10: He's a good returner.

1727
01:15:46,000 --> 01:15:46,719
Speaker 4: That's insane.

1728
01:15:46,800 --> 01:15:51,160
Speaker 10: But your receiver, the receiver take, like I'm not saying

1729
01:15:51,760 --> 01:15:53,840
Speaker 10: calling it, your receiver take is probably a little strong,

1730
01:15:53,920 --> 01:15:54,960
Speaker 10: and I don't want to put that on you.

1731
01:15:55,040 --> 01:15:57,160
Speaker 4: I appreciate that you're gonna answer for that.

1732
01:15:57,320 --> 01:16:01,719
Speaker 10: You have a quarterback that can throw and an offensive

1733
01:16:01,760 --> 01:16:04,960
Speaker 10: line that can't block. But Marvin Harrison Junior is down

1734
01:16:05,040 --> 01:16:07,400
Speaker 10: the field wide open, jumping up and down like a

1735
01:16:07,479 --> 01:16:09,800
Speaker 10: crazy person, Like I'm just trying to figure out where

1736
01:16:10,600 --> 01:16:12,920
Speaker 10: like you cut? Because I look at the Jets and

1737
01:16:13,360 --> 01:16:15,960
Speaker 10: Garrett Wilson is a thousand yards every single year coming

1738
01:16:16,000 --> 01:16:18,479
Speaker 10: off the bus. They can't win a thing. So I

1739
01:16:18,680 --> 01:16:22,120
Speaker 10: just like don't really see how like how is how

1740
01:16:22,280 --> 01:16:25,280
Speaker 10: is that help? Like Marvin Harrison, you just super talented player,

1741
01:16:25,320 --> 01:16:27,120
Speaker 10: but how does it help your bottom line?

1742
01:16:27,120 --> 01:16:28,240
Speaker 6: I'm already on this other side seat.

1743
01:16:28,280 --> 01:16:29,640
Speaker 7: Well, first of all, I would say, I wouldn't just

1744
01:16:29,720 --> 01:16:31,360
Speaker 7: run them down the field if we can't protect so

1745
01:16:31,479 --> 01:16:33,959
Speaker 7: I would probably haven't run a shorter route.

1746
01:16:38,800 --> 01:16:41,000
Speaker 4: Crossing.

1747
01:16:41,680 --> 01:16:44,320
Speaker 10: I would run run. I mean, I'm Lincoln Riley. I

1748
01:16:44,400 --> 01:16:45,639
Speaker 10: run mesh on every single play.

1749
01:16:46,120 --> 01:16:48,240
Speaker 7: I get it, I know, and it's it's this is

1750
01:16:48,479 --> 01:16:50,240
Speaker 7: this is good conversation because I mean, and I'm not

1751
01:16:50,439 --> 01:16:52,479
Speaker 7: I'm not fully you know where you're putting me right now,

1752
01:16:52,560 --> 01:16:54,680
Speaker 7: But I just at least see, you know, some of

1753
01:16:54,800 --> 01:16:57,400
Speaker 7: the consideration that you have to have, and especially as

1754
01:16:57,439 --> 01:17:00,200
Speaker 7: a new person coming in who wants to put their

1755
01:17:00,320 --> 01:17:03,719
Speaker 7: stamp on the organization, and if you have questions about

1756
01:17:03,720 --> 01:17:06,360
Speaker 7: the quarterback, which I I mean, and admittedly I went

1757
01:17:06,400 --> 01:17:09,880
Speaker 7: into kind of this weekend kind of like on Jayden Daniels,

1758
01:17:09,920 --> 01:17:12,040
Speaker 7: but I'm much higher on him now, and you know,

1759
01:17:12,160 --> 01:17:13,920
Speaker 7: I I mean, it's a great question.

1760
01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:16,240
Speaker 6: You're right, and then film this weekend.

1761
01:17:16,680 --> 01:17:16,880
Speaker 1: I did.

1762
01:17:16,960 --> 01:17:18,559
Speaker 8: I watched the quarterbacks and some receivers.

1763
01:17:19,240 --> 01:17:22,120
Speaker 6: You enjoy yourself, the Nabvers guy, and I was just intrigued. No,

1764
01:17:22,240 --> 01:17:22,920
Speaker 6: I started watching it.

1765
01:17:23,320 --> 01:17:23,519
Speaker 11: You have.

1766
01:17:25,040 --> 01:17:27,400
Speaker 4: A take stick what you take, don't back.

1767
01:17:28,400 --> 01:17:29,719
Speaker 10: You've got to watch Room and Wilson.

1768
01:17:30,080 --> 01:17:30,720
Speaker 6: I haven't watch him.

1769
01:17:32,040 --> 01:17:32,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1770
01:17:33,840 --> 01:17:34,600
Speaker 6: What did you guys think of the.

1771
01:17:34,640 --> 01:17:39,120
Speaker 10: Organ Taekwon Thorn? Yeah, reil thin super fast.

1772
01:17:39,280 --> 01:17:40,120
Speaker 11: I don't want any more of this.

1773
01:17:40,479 --> 01:17:42,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, let's get to the phones. We'll go

1774
01:17:42,920 --> 01:17:43,719
Speaker 1: to Tim and Boston.

1775
01:17:43,760 --> 01:17:45,479
Speaker 10: What you have more to say?

1776
01:17:46,120 --> 01:17:46,479
Speaker 19: Everyone?

1777
01:17:46,840 --> 01:17:48,559
Speaker 15: Just to talk to some of these first round quarterbacks

1778
01:17:48,600 --> 01:17:51,200
Speaker 15: real quick. Like every one of these guys has a flaw,

1779
01:17:51,640 --> 01:17:53,519
Speaker 15: you know, as usual. You know, I got to teach

1780
01:17:53,520 --> 01:17:55,639
Speaker 15: them how to read a defense. It's this guy's mechanics.

1781
01:17:56,400 --> 01:17:59,120
Speaker 15: But in the history of like developing quarterbacks, which one

1782
01:17:59,360 --> 01:18:02,120
Speaker 15: worked out most often? Like the easier to teach someone

1783
01:18:02,160 --> 01:18:03,160
Speaker 15: to throw than it is to.

1784
01:18:05,080 --> 01:18:09,400
Speaker 10: I would say based off of recent history. Uh, the

1785
01:18:09,520 --> 01:18:13,080
Speaker 10: Drake May mold has worked out more times than not.

1786
01:18:13,600 --> 01:18:17,880
Speaker 10: Like that's Drake May is like justin Herbert Josh Allen. Uh,

1787
01:18:17,960 --> 01:18:21,040
Speaker 10: that type of guy that Drake May has got footwork

1788
01:18:21,360 --> 01:18:24,000
Speaker 10: in some lower body mechanical things. That if you get

1789
01:18:24,080 --> 01:18:26,640
Speaker 10: him with Jordan Palmer for an offseason, like odds are

1790
01:18:26,720 --> 01:18:29,200
Speaker 10: that he's going to probably figure it out, and that

1791
01:18:29,439 --> 01:18:32,320
Speaker 10: that's what those guys did. I think that that guy

1792
01:18:32,600 --> 01:18:35,720
Speaker 10: usually works out a little bit. Jaden Daniels is like

1793
01:18:35,800 --> 01:18:38,120
Speaker 10: the only comp for him really is Lamar, Like there's

1794
01:18:38,160 --> 01:18:42,400
Speaker 10: a it's just not He's such a unique player that

1795
01:18:42,520 --> 01:18:45,320
Speaker 10: I think it's difficult. Like the Caleb Williams one is like,

1796
01:18:45,439 --> 01:18:48,080
Speaker 10: that's Zach Wilson like that. That guy's got boom er

1797
01:18:48,120 --> 01:18:50,560
Speaker 10: bust potential all over the place that I would be

1798
01:18:50,600 --> 01:18:52,559
Speaker 10: concerned about. Like, I think Drake may is the guy

1799
01:18:52,640 --> 01:18:55,680
Speaker 10: that he understands the position, he knows what he's looking at,

1800
01:18:55,800 --> 01:18:58,240
Speaker 10: he understands how to you know, work the middle of

1801
01:18:58,280 --> 01:19:00,560
Speaker 10: the field. He just needs to fix some of the

1802
01:19:00,800 --> 01:19:03,120
Speaker 10: refinement of his mechanics and he's going to be fine.

1803
01:19:05,120 --> 01:19:09,479
Speaker 1: You good tempt Okay, I guess so, yes, let's go

1804
01:19:09,560 --> 01:19:10,880
Speaker 1: to SPI and Fresnow, what's up?

1805
01:19:10,920 --> 01:19:17,280
Speaker 20: Speed Mike's new jingle is a thing of beauty? Yeah, uh,

1806
01:19:17,560 --> 01:19:19,000
Speaker 20: Jill was giving mister Lipp.

1807
01:19:18,840 --> 01:19:19,639
Speaker 4: A run for his money.

1808
01:19:20,160 --> 01:19:25,880
Speaker 20: Yeah, absolutely, man, I agree with what you guys were

1809
01:19:25,920 --> 01:19:29,479
Speaker 20: saying earlier. With you know that the decisions so far

1810
01:19:29,640 --> 01:19:33,360
Speaker 20: maybe suggest press saw Bill is the problem and the

1811
01:19:33,439 --> 01:19:36,000
Speaker 20: plan more or less seems like run it back minus built.

1812
01:19:37,520 --> 01:19:40,080
Speaker 20: But it's I'm trying to reconcile that because Craft maybe

1813
01:19:40,160 --> 01:19:44,040
Speaker 20: slip flop, Like he gives Bill that contract extension in

1814
01:19:44,120 --> 01:19:46,719
Speaker 20: late October after losing to the Stants and the Raiders,

1815
01:19:47,920 --> 01:19:49,559
Speaker 20: and now Bill's the main problem.

1816
01:19:49,840 --> 01:19:52,439
Speaker 4: I just that's a little bit of speed. That's when

1817
01:19:52,439 --> 01:19:54,880
Speaker 4: you found out about the contract extension. That's not when

1818
01:19:54,880 --> 01:19:57,360
Speaker 4: he got it. They didn't extend it.

1819
01:19:57,760 --> 01:20:00,639
Speaker 10: Told what happened I after last season?

1820
01:20:00,760 --> 01:20:03,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, after the yeah, probably around this time last year.

1821
01:20:05,240 --> 01:20:09,280
Speaker 6: Oh okay, yeah, but it was still after they just.

1822
01:20:11,720 --> 01:20:15,000
Speaker 10: I think out of all the things that since this

1823
01:20:15,160 --> 01:20:16,560
Speaker 10: kind of brings it up, like out of all the

1824
01:20:16,640 --> 01:20:19,519
Speaker 10: things that all this talk about, like the Craft's meddling

1825
01:20:19,560 --> 01:20:21,200
Speaker 10: too much and stuff like that, And clearly that's what

1826
01:20:21,280 --> 01:20:24,439
Speaker 10: Bill thinks, because that's what's out there, Like the biggest

1827
01:20:24,520 --> 01:20:27,280
Speaker 10: thing to me out of all like Craft coming in

1828
01:20:27,360 --> 01:20:30,639
Speaker 10: and saying that Matt Patricia is an offensive coordinator Bill,

1829
01:20:30,760 --> 01:20:33,679
Speaker 10: that that that's not working out. Like that's the job

1830
01:20:33,760 --> 01:20:36,280
Speaker 10: of an owner, right is like save you from yourself

1831
01:20:36,720 --> 01:20:37,160
Speaker 10: and be like.

1832
01:20:37,360 --> 01:20:39,760
Speaker 4: There's a degree of meddling that should be done by

1833
01:20:39,800 --> 01:20:40,160
Speaker 4: the owner.

1834
01:20:40,280 --> 01:20:42,519
Speaker 10: He's in charge, right, Like it's the voice of reason

1835
01:20:42,640 --> 01:20:44,560
Speaker 10: of being like this is not we're not doing this,

1836
01:20:44,760 --> 01:20:50,680
Speaker 10: like this is crazy, but but putting he's right in

1837
01:20:50,840 --> 01:20:55,280
Speaker 10: writing that Gerard Mayo is the successor to Bill Belichick

1838
01:20:55,880 --> 01:20:59,200
Speaker 10: when Bill Belichick is still coaching. He made Bill Belichick

1839
01:20:59,200 --> 01:21:02,120
Speaker 10: a lame duck. That's what it did. Like they made

1840
01:21:02,160 --> 01:21:02,960
Speaker 10: Bill a lame duck.

1841
01:21:04,040 --> 01:21:07,240
Speaker 1: Well, he'll probably and I heard this thing on Paul's shows,

1842
01:21:07,360 --> 01:21:10,120
Speaker 1: like this whole thing. Well, the plan was he was

1843
01:21:10,160 --> 01:21:12,120
Speaker 1: going to be here for two years and hopefully the

1844
01:21:12,160 --> 01:21:14,680
Speaker 1: team was going in the right direction, and then you

1845
01:21:14,840 --> 01:21:17,400
Speaker 1: hand it over to Gerard instead of where it is now.

1846
01:21:17,439 --> 01:21:19,840
Speaker 1: And I'm thinking myself, Okay, so if the team's heading

1847
01:21:19,880 --> 01:21:21,280
Speaker 1: in the right direction, why would Bill.

1848
01:21:21,160 --> 01:21:24,000
Speaker 4: Want to leave, Like because they were figuring that they

1849
01:21:24,040 --> 01:21:26,479
Speaker 4: would get his he would get his record, and he

1850
01:21:26,520 --> 01:21:28,120
Speaker 4: would probably be looking to step.

1851
01:21:28,000 --> 01:21:30,360
Speaker 1: Down probably, But what if he wants to keep coaching.

1852
01:21:30,360 --> 01:21:32,080
Speaker 4: You know, then you do it for another year. I mean,

1853
01:21:32,200 --> 01:21:34,040
Speaker 4: let's face, he's not going to coach that much longer.

1854
01:21:34,200 --> 01:21:39,599
Speaker 1: I think I think the Crafts were ready to pull

1855
01:21:39,680 --> 01:21:41,559
Speaker 1: the trigger at the beginning of this year.

1856
01:21:41,880 --> 01:21:43,439
Speaker 10: It didn't work out, but so they made him, but

1857
01:21:43,520 --> 01:21:46,040
Speaker 10: they made him a lame duck. And then from everything

1858
01:21:46,080 --> 01:21:49,720
Speaker 10: that we've heard, it divided the coaching staff. So and

1859
01:21:49,840 --> 01:21:54,200
Speaker 10: it divided the building because at people was the next guy.

1860
01:21:54,400 --> 01:21:58,360
Speaker 4: So are you suggesting that maybe it was intentional that

1861
01:21:59,360 --> 01:22:02,080
Speaker 4: it would quick in the pace of the deterior rate.

1862
01:22:02,520 --> 01:22:05,439
Speaker 1: Maybe, but I do think that they were open to

1863
01:22:06,320 --> 01:22:07,920
Speaker 1: I don't think that. In other words, I don't think

1864
01:22:07,960 --> 01:22:10,519
Speaker 1: there was a plan a two year plan. I think

1865
01:22:11,240 --> 01:22:14,240
Speaker 1: there was a plan as soon as it was needed

1866
01:22:14,680 --> 01:22:15,720
Speaker 1: to make the change. Yeah.

1867
01:22:15,760 --> 01:22:17,240
Speaker 4: No, I agree with you on that, but I do

1868
01:22:17,360 --> 01:22:19,439
Speaker 4: think they probably looked at it as it wouldn't be

1869
01:22:19,560 --> 01:22:22,160
Speaker 4: this year, it would probably be two years, and it

1870
01:22:22,520 --> 01:22:24,880
Speaker 4: didn't work out that way. But the larger point that

1871
01:22:24,920 --> 01:22:29,280
Speaker 4: I agree with with Evan on is I think unintentionally,

1872
01:22:29,320 --> 01:22:31,519
Speaker 4: I don't think that Robert knew this was going to happen.

1873
01:22:32,120 --> 01:22:35,439
Speaker 4: I think unintentionally they set Bill up to fail and

1874
01:22:35,800 --> 01:22:39,360
Speaker 4: it ended up dividing some within the coaching staff.

1875
01:22:39,560 --> 01:22:39,760
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1876
01:22:40,400 --> 01:22:43,439
Speaker 20: Probably, But the original plan was to basically give Bill

1877
01:22:43,520 --> 01:22:45,880
Speaker 20: two years so we could get the record and then run.

1878
01:22:45,960 --> 01:22:48,439
Speaker 1: Well, that's what people say. I've never heard anyone come

1879
01:22:48,520 --> 01:22:48,880
Speaker 1: from that.

1880
01:22:48,960 --> 01:22:51,040
Speaker 4: No, Fred Wright, Fred Right.

1881
01:22:51,120 --> 01:22:53,120
Speaker 7: Still would have taken two what two nine one seasons?

1882
01:22:53,160 --> 01:22:56,680
Speaker 10: I mean, yeah, yeah, I just I look at that

1883
01:22:57,040 --> 01:22:58,880
Speaker 10: set up and when you look back on it now,

1884
01:22:59,479 --> 01:23:01,840
Speaker 10: like that's a dysfunctional setup. But I can't just you

1885
01:23:01,920 --> 01:23:04,639
Speaker 10: can't promise somebody a job when guys.

1886
01:23:04,479 --> 01:23:07,280
Speaker 1: Still I could people say that they sealed those fate

1887
01:23:07,360 --> 01:23:09,559
Speaker 1: when they wrote the letter to season ticket holders at

1888
01:23:09,560 --> 01:23:09,880
Speaker 1: the end.

1889
01:23:09,840 --> 01:23:11,559
Speaker 4: Of last Well, I think it all kind of goes

1890
01:23:11,600 --> 01:23:13,880
Speaker 4: hand in hand. That's when the Mayo thing happened, right.

1891
01:23:14,000 --> 01:23:16,960
Speaker 10: And then Mayo goes and has the Karen Griggian asked

1892
01:23:17,000 --> 01:23:20,600
Speaker 10: the question and he says, the timing is interesting, And

1893
01:23:20,720 --> 01:23:22,559
Speaker 10: at first I thought, oh, the timing is interesting. He's

1894
01:23:22,560 --> 01:23:24,680
Speaker 10: saying that because they're three and thirteen or what. No,

1895
01:23:25,000 --> 01:23:26,760
Speaker 10: he was saying that because he knew that he was

1896
01:23:26,840 --> 01:23:30,960
Speaker 10: the next guy and people in the building knew it too, So, oh,

1897
01:23:31,040 --> 01:23:32,920
Speaker 10: the timing is interesting. All of a sudden, now I

1898
01:23:33,000 --> 01:23:35,680
Speaker 10: have this contract that I'm the air apparent, and now

1899
01:23:35,880 --> 01:23:38,600
Speaker 10: people are starting to talk and talk about me.

1900
01:23:38,760 --> 01:23:41,519
Speaker 1: It's like this guy, he loves to throw the word

1901
01:23:41,560 --> 01:23:44,880
Speaker 1: out swear. Yeah, he's a little potty.

1902
01:23:46,240 --> 01:23:47,200
Speaker 10: If that's a swear word.

1903
01:23:47,240 --> 01:23:49,880
Speaker 1: Then we have a very low ball is nowadays. Yeah,

1904
01:23:50,040 --> 01:23:51,880
Speaker 1: they say that on regularly, they really do.

1905
01:23:52,040 --> 01:23:54,160
Speaker 7: There's no more like you know, they used to peep

1906
01:23:54,160 --> 01:23:54,960
Speaker 7: it out like forget you.

1907
01:23:55,200 --> 01:23:59,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, like ESPN last night, you know one of the

1908
01:23:59,680 --> 01:24:04,320
Speaker 4: press conferences, someone did that did a peeper? No, no, no,

1909
01:24:04,640 --> 01:24:07,360
Speaker 4: no peeper. Now just that that word is like just

1910
01:24:07,439 --> 01:24:07,840
Speaker 4: a bleep.

1911
01:24:08,280 --> 01:24:09,920
Speaker 10: If I said the F word, then I'd be mad

1912
01:24:09,960 --> 01:24:10,439
Speaker 10: at myself.

1913
01:24:10,680 --> 01:24:14,040
Speaker 4: Sean McVay after the Sunday Night game, he might have

1914
01:24:14,080 --> 01:24:17,840
Speaker 4: said something about sugar. That's word sugar, Chris with a T,

1915
01:24:18,080 --> 01:24:18,720
Speaker 4: I A N.

1916
01:24:18,880 --> 01:24:20,400
Speaker 1: Hey, Christian, Hey.

1917
01:24:21,080 --> 01:24:23,040
Speaker 20: You've been most like a sailor.

1918
01:24:23,120 --> 01:24:23,679
Speaker 5: It's crazy.

1919
01:24:23,800 --> 01:24:24,479
Speaker 4: Where have you been?

1920
01:24:24,720 --> 01:24:24,840
Speaker 1: Bro?

1921
01:24:26,040 --> 01:24:27,519
Speaker 4: What do you got to do? What do you got

1922
01:24:27,560 --> 01:24:28,320
Speaker 4: more important than this?

1923
01:24:30,040 --> 01:24:30,240
Speaker 1: Look?

1924
01:24:30,280 --> 01:24:32,519
Speaker 5: It was a very emotional week last week, Paula. It

1925
01:24:32,680 --> 01:24:34,439
Speaker 5: it takes me a while to you know, to call it.

1926
01:24:34,560 --> 01:24:36,960
Speaker 5: I gotta get my bearings a boat. Twenty four years

1927
01:24:37,040 --> 01:24:37,599
Speaker 5: is a long.

1928
01:24:37,479 --> 01:24:43,959
Speaker 4: Time, you know, Okay, so intimately connected for the past.

1929
01:24:44,120 --> 01:24:45,800
Speaker 5: For the past two years and then as soon as

1930
01:24:45,800 --> 01:24:48,200
Speaker 5: I'm going onto the website last week and see Robert,

1931
01:24:48,400 --> 01:24:50,240
Speaker 5: see him and Robert walk out. If I was in

1932
01:24:50,320 --> 01:24:52,479
Speaker 5: the room, I probably said no, don't leave, I love

1933
01:24:52,560 --> 01:24:53,040
Speaker 5: you please.

1934
01:24:53,160 --> 01:24:53,320
Speaker 17: Day.

1935
01:24:53,920 --> 01:24:57,320
Speaker 5: It was just it was a surreal moment. Yeah, it's

1936
01:24:58,040 --> 01:25:01,240
Speaker 5: I And I hear everybody these thoughts about the Mayo

1937
01:25:01,360 --> 01:25:03,000
Speaker 5: higher and I get it, Like I would have liked to,

1938
01:25:03,680 --> 01:25:05,960
Speaker 5: like prol like for them to have gone outside and

1939
01:25:06,800 --> 01:25:11,000
Speaker 5: and and and look around. But I'm putting my faith

1940
01:25:11,080 --> 01:25:14,320
Speaker 5: back in the ownership. They identified this guy, they clearly

1941
01:25:14,520 --> 01:25:17,960
Speaker 5: like him, and you know, they went ahead and rewrote

1942
01:25:17,960 --> 01:25:20,439
Speaker 5: the contract and and and made him the guy. So

1943
01:25:21,760 --> 01:25:23,840
Speaker 5: and I do like what Robert did last week, coming

1944
01:25:23,920 --> 01:25:26,519
Speaker 5: back out after him and Bill to answer questions. I

1945
01:25:27,160 --> 01:25:29,920
Speaker 5: thought this year he was really getting killed a lot

1946
01:25:30,080 --> 01:25:34,439
Speaker 5: for not commenting on this season and Bill's job, and

1947
01:25:34,520 --> 01:25:36,559
Speaker 5: I thought it was important for him to come out

1948
01:25:36,600 --> 01:25:39,560
Speaker 5: and do what he did. And as a fan, you know,

1949
01:25:39,720 --> 01:25:42,800
Speaker 5: it it to me. This may sound kind of corny,

1950
01:25:42,840 --> 01:25:44,360
Speaker 5: but it meant a lot. It meant a lot to

1951
01:25:44,479 --> 01:25:47,160
Speaker 5: hear from him and for him to you know, to

1952
01:25:47,240 --> 01:25:48,479
Speaker 5: have that time with the media.

1953
01:25:48,680 --> 01:25:48,880
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1954
01:25:48,920 --> 01:25:51,599
Speaker 1: I think it's always important for fans to hear from

1955
01:25:51,640 --> 01:25:55,639
Speaker 1: their owners, especially in times like this thing. Yeah, there

1956
01:25:55,800 --> 01:26:01,360
Speaker 1: is you know, upset or motivated or whatever as you are,

1957
01:26:01,560 --> 01:26:03,080
Speaker 1: you know, like they want to win as much as

1958
01:26:03,160 --> 01:26:03,360
Speaker 1: you do.

1959
01:26:03,840 --> 01:26:04,000
Speaker 8: I have.

1960
01:26:04,520 --> 01:26:07,599
Speaker 10: I just like and I don't want to speak for everybody,

1961
01:26:07,600 --> 01:26:10,600
Speaker 10: but Gerard's not the problem with what's going on right now. No,

1962
01:26:10,880 --> 01:26:13,160
Speaker 10: I'm actually pretty excited about Gerard. I think it's the

1963
01:26:13,600 --> 01:26:15,840
Speaker 10: the idea of it is great. I love that he's,

1964
01:26:16,040 --> 01:26:18,560
Speaker 10: you know, a younger coach that hopefully will have a

1965
01:26:18,600 --> 01:26:20,720
Speaker 10: little bit more of a modern spin on it. I

1966
01:26:20,800 --> 01:26:22,840
Speaker 10: love that the players love him, Like I think that's

1967
01:26:23,080 --> 01:26:25,680
Speaker 10: very very clear. It's all it's everything that's going on

1968
01:26:25,800 --> 01:26:28,599
Speaker 10: around him that is that it's concerning right Like there's

1969
01:26:28,920 --> 01:26:32,479
Speaker 10: no general manager. You know, you're hearing a lot of stuff,

1970
01:26:32,640 --> 01:26:34,200
Speaker 10: and I just you know, a lot of people are

1971
01:26:34,280 --> 01:26:36,920
Speaker 10: talking by the way, like we're not supposed to say much,

1972
01:26:37,000 --> 01:26:39,360
Speaker 10: but like this is as much chatter as I've heard

1973
01:26:39,400 --> 01:26:40,120
Speaker 10: around the building.

1974
01:26:41,600 --> 01:26:44,840
Speaker 1: Everyone's lining up, you know where it's still you know,

1975
01:26:45,080 --> 01:26:47,960
Speaker 1: the the dust hasn't settled from last week.

1976
01:26:48,120 --> 01:26:50,200
Speaker 10: So there's a lot of incertain Like there's a lot

1977
01:26:50,240 --> 01:26:52,280
Speaker 10: of people in this building on the football side of things.

1978
01:26:52,320 --> 01:26:53,120
Speaker 10: I don't know if they have a.

1979
01:26:53,160 --> 01:26:56,160
Speaker 4: Job or I would agree with with Evan with regard

1980
01:26:56,240 --> 01:26:59,479
Speaker 4: to Mayo. I I don't have any problems with him

1981
01:26:59,520 --> 01:27:01,040
Speaker 4: being the success.

1982
01:27:01,240 --> 01:27:03,479
Speaker 1: I think it's in all our interests to support him

1983
01:27:03,520 --> 01:27:05,559
Speaker 1: and make sure he got Yeah.

1984
01:27:05,600 --> 01:27:07,800
Speaker 4: But even if it wasn't, that would I still I

1985
01:27:08,160 --> 01:27:10,000
Speaker 4: think a lot of Mayo. I think highly of him,

1986
01:27:10,040 --> 01:27:12,880
Speaker 4: and I don't think it's a terrible choice. I don't.

1987
01:27:13,880 --> 01:27:16,280
Speaker 4: I just think that it didn't need to be done

1988
01:27:16,280 --> 01:27:16,920
Speaker 4: the way it was.

1989
01:27:17,160 --> 01:27:20,920
Speaker 1: But I think you well, our pad from Hungary, he

1990
01:27:21,160 --> 01:27:23,160
Speaker 1: disagrees with you, Paul. He says, I don't mind not

1991
01:27:23,280 --> 01:27:26,000
Speaker 1: doing interviews. You know, you make those interviews and at

1992
01:27:26,040 --> 01:27:28,640
Speaker 1: the end it turns out it was Mayo. Anyway, no

1993
01:27:28,840 --> 01:27:30,799
Speaker 1: chance for those coaches who went in for the interview

1994
01:27:30,880 --> 01:27:33,000
Speaker 1: would be a bad look for the Patriots. They'd be

1995
01:27:33,080 --> 01:27:34,040
Speaker 1: losing credibility.

1996
01:27:34,760 --> 01:27:35,280
Speaker 4: Disagree.

1997
01:27:35,720 --> 01:27:39,000
Speaker 10: I also have no problem with the head coaching interview

1998
01:27:39,120 --> 01:27:40,920
Speaker 10: is whatever, Like you think Mayo's the guy? Mayo is

1999
01:27:40,960 --> 01:27:41,160
Speaker 10: the guy?

2000
01:27:41,280 --> 01:27:41,519
Speaker 4: Great?

2001
01:27:42,240 --> 01:27:45,320
Speaker 10: What the offensive coordinator? Are we gonna have an actual

2002
01:27:45,360 --> 01:27:47,000
Speaker 10: process for that or are we just going to pick

2003
01:27:47,040 --> 01:27:49,920
Speaker 10: Bill O'Brien back, you know, like it was last year,

2004
01:27:49,960 --> 01:27:51,920
Speaker 10: in actual process or was it a sham? Because I

2005
01:27:51,960 --> 01:27:53,000
Speaker 10: think it was kind of a sham.

2006
01:27:53,320 --> 01:27:55,040
Speaker 7: That's where the reporting has been all over the place.

2007
01:27:55,120 --> 01:27:58,200
Speaker 7: I mean, between the report Josh could be back that

2008
01:27:58,280 --> 01:28:01,479
Speaker 7: without came out early last weekend to Bill O'Brien, could

2009
01:28:01,560 --> 01:28:04,120
Speaker 7: be back to you know, and then the guy that

2010
01:28:04,160 --> 01:28:07,080
Speaker 7: in Carolina is defensive right defensive coordinator interviewing him. So

2011
01:28:07,560 --> 01:28:10,120
Speaker 7: even that through the lens of could Steve come back?

2012
01:28:10,160 --> 01:28:13,120
Speaker 7: I mean, is it even necessarily as a defensive coordinator?

2013
01:28:13,200 --> 01:28:16,160
Speaker 7: Could he just kind of stay as a linebacker's coach site?

2014
01:28:16,720 --> 01:28:18,280
Speaker 7: I think this is the questions we're waiting for.

2015
01:28:18,400 --> 01:28:18,519
Speaker 17: Now.

2016
01:28:18,560 --> 01:28:23,519
Speaker 10: What's that intrigued that they're even interviewing people for leadership

2017
01:28:23,560 --> 01:28:26,240
Speaker 10: positions on the staff, which means that Gerard is having

2018
01:28:26,840 --> 01:28:29,320
Speaker 10: an open mind about these positions, Like if it was

2019
01:28:29,400 --> 01:28:31,320
Speaker 10: just going to be Steve, then why bring Tim Lubick

2020
01:28:31,479 --> 01:28:33,880
Speaker 10: even in the building right like or virtually or whatever.

2021
01:28:34,160 --> 01:28:37,120
Speaker 10: So at least like there are some rumblings that it

2022
01:28:37,320 --> 01:28:40,800
Speaker 10: that they are there's openings on the staff and he's

2023
01:28:40,880 --> 01:28:44,160
Speaker 10: not just filling them with retreads. Like there's a legitimate.

2024
01:28:44,439 --> 01:28:46,760
Speaker 7: Special teams thing is legit too, because that's just that's

2025
01:28:46,760 --> 01:28:49,160
Speaker 7: another thing that they've gone by the wayside, and this

2026
01:28:49,280 --> 01:28:51,200
Speaker 7: is just that's a bad special teams you talk about.

2027
01:28:51,280 --> 01:28:53,479
Speaker 7: You just could use a fresh start there. This is

2028
01:28:53,479 --> 01:28:54,560
Speaker 7: an opportunity to do it.

2029
01:28:55,280 --> 01:28:58,200
Speaker 1: Sebastian from Clifton, New Jersey said, did you know that

2030
01:28:58,320 --> 01:29:05,479
Speaker 1: lazarre is Spanish for the idea football czars.

2031
01:29:06,960 --> 01:29:09,519
Speaker 10: I'm you don't even I'm already on peril.

2032
01:29:09,720 --> 01:29:14,200
Speaker 1: You don't even need to Claire Rights and everyone. I

2033
01:29:14,360 --> 01:29:16,439
Speaker 1: totally agree with Fred. It would be great for Steve

2034
01:29:16,520 --> 01:29:21,400
Speaker 1: Belichick to stay at the Patriots and for and the Patriots,

2035
01:29:21,479 --> 01:29:24,639
Speaker 1: and for Steve. Steve gets to prove his worth without

2036
01:29:24,680 --> 01:29:27,080
Speaker 1: his dad, and the defense is so bloody good. I

2037
01:29:27,200 --> 01:29:29,640
Speaker 1: hope Mayo balances bringing back some of the good and

2038
01:29:29,760 --> 01:29:33,040
Speaker 1: finding lots more. As for Bill moving on to another team,

2039
01:29:33,160 --> 01:29:35,720
Speaker 1: but running it back, that's kind of why he had

2040
01:29:35,760 --> 01:29:38,639
Speaker 1: to go. He's too much of bringing it all back.

2041
01:29:38,840 --> 01:29:40,120
Speaker 1: In that way, no one can move on.

2042
01:29:41,720 --> 01:29:44,479
Speaker 7: I don't really have anything against Steve Belichick, but I'd

2043
01:29:44,520 --> 01:29:46,560
Speaker 7: love to see DeMarcus Covington get a chance, like I

2044
01:29:46,720 --> 01:29:48,760
Speaker 7: just I think he's outstanding young coach.

2045
01:29:48,840 --> 01:29:50,840
Speaker 6: He's just been one of my one of my favorites, and.

2046
01:29:51,120 --> 01:29:54,280
Speaker 10: He had the team this year. The defensive line was

2047
01:29:54,320 --> 01:29:57,639
Speaker 10: by far the best, best prepared, best coach, best play

2048
01:29:58,040 --> 01:29:58,400
Speaker 10: all of it.

2049
01:29:58,680 --> 01:30:02,639
Speaker 1: So uh, Todd and Garner. I have noticed in multiple

2050
01:30:02,720 --> 01:30:05,800
Speaker 1: reports that male feels that these new kids need to

2051
01:30:05,920 --> 01:30:09,560
Speaker 1: know the why for what they They need to know

2052
01:30:09,760 --> 01:30:11,880
Speaker 1: why for whatever what they have to do. Now, wasn't

2053
01:30:11,920 --> 01:30:15,520
Speaker 1: this the exact complaint coming from Mac regarding the offenses

2054
01:30:15,560 --> 01:30:18,439
Speaker 1: he was asked to engage in after McDaniel's left. Is

2055
01:30:18,479 --> 01:30:20,720
Speaker 1: there a chance that the team feels like Mack was

2056
01:30:20,800 --> 01:30:23,040
Speaker 1: mismanaged and that they owe him another shot?

2057
01:30:25,200 --> 01:30:27,880
Speaker 10: I think that you can. And the sentence that the

2058
01:30:28,000 --> 01:30:31,800
Speaker 10: team thinks Mac is was m mismanaged the other shot

2059
01:30:31,880 --> 01:30:33,599
Speaker 10: part of it, I don't. I don't really see how

2060
01:30:33,680 --> 01:30:34,240
Speaker 10: that's pert.

2061
01:30:35,600 --> 01:30:39,400
Speaker 1: This is a message to the Crafts from mattin framing him.

2062
01:30:40,960 --> 01:30:43,040
Speaker 1: I thought the smear campaigned by the Crafts and the

2063
01:30:43,120 --> 01:30:46,519
Speaker 1: seth Wickersham piece was total bs. The Crafts made the

2064
01:30:46,600 --> 01:30:49,840
Speaker 1: right decision to send Belichick packing, But for Pete's sake,

2065
01:30:49,920 --> 01:30:52,679
Speaker 1: don't be like that dirt bag John Henry with putting

2066
01:30:52,680 --> 01:30:55,960
Speaker 1: the hit pieces, with Terry Francona, with Bob Holer from

2067
01:30:56,000 --> 01:30:58,439
Speaker 1: the Globe. You're better than this. Take your medicine and

2068
01:30:58,520 --> 01:31:00,519
Speaker 1: try to fix the mess Belichick behind.

2069
01:31:00,600 --> 01:31:03,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not going to go all homerrific on you here.

2070
01:31:04,800 --> 01:31:06,679
Speaker 4: I think that, But I think that went both ways.

2071
01:31:06,720 --> 01:31:07,120
Speaker 1: Oh, Yeah.

2072
01:31:07,160 --> 01:31:08,400
Speaker 4: I think the hit pieces went both.

2073
01:31:08,600 --> 01:31:11,000
Speaker 1: I think there were people talking from both camps yes

2074
01:31:11,240 --> 01:31:13,960
Speaker 1: in that yep, yeah, which.

2075
01:31:13,800 --> 01:31:16,200
Speaker 10: I wish didn't go on like I wis from both.

2076
01:31:16,360 --> 01:31:17,760
Speaker 4: I wish at least it could have gone more than

2077
01:31:17,840 --> 01:31:21,320
Speaker 4: like eighteen hours before we started hearing about it. I mean,

2078
01:31:21,360 --> 01:31:23,840
Speaker 4: obviously they both knew what they had already said to

2079
01:31:24,680 --> 01:31:27,160
Speaker 4: to the the authors of those you know Vannatda and

2080
01:31:27,479 --> 01:31:31,080
Speaker 4: Wickersham and right was it right Thompson involved in that one.

2081
01:31:32,280 --> 01:31:35,040
Speaker 1: Nick from Omaha question for the group one thing we

2082
01:31:35,160 --> 01:31:38,000
Speaker 1: saw this season where the fans and players desired to

2083
01:31:38,160 --> 01:31:41,840
Speaker 1: roll with Greer or Cunningham, and Patriots Unfiltered summarized this

2084
01:31:41,920 --> 01:31:45,320
Speaker 1: phenomenon as simply because it's the other guy, which I agreed,

2085
01:31:45,400 --> 01:31:47,559
Speaker 1: because people like talent that isn't tainted.

2086
01:31:47,640 --> 01:31:47,800
Speaker 4: Yet.

2087
01:31:48,360 --> 01:31:51,240
Speaker 1: If the rumors are true that Mayo's contract terms to

2088
01:31:51,360 --> 01:31:55,000
Speaker 1: be the successor leaked and the influence relationships and it

2089
01:31:55,160 --> 01:31:58,560
Speaker 1: influenced relationships this past year, are we concerned that the

2090
01:31:58,640 --> 01:32:01,960
Speaker 1: players and others like Mayo simply for the same reasons.

2091
01:32:02,400 --> 01:32:04,679
Speaker 1: It's not your current bad option and you just want

2092
01:32:04,720 --> 01:32:07,479
Speaker 1: to move on to something untainted, or do you feel

2093
01:32:07,560 --> 01:32:09,400
Speaker 1: more encouraged for Mayo in this situation.

2094
01:32:10,000 --> 01:32:11,640
Speaker 6: No, I think he's been upfront doing it.

2095
01:32:11,720 --> 01:32:13,240
Speaker 7: I mean, you know, I think the thing with Malie

2096
01:32:13,280 --> 01:32:16,400
Speaker 7: Cunningham is that fans were just kind of assuming, you know,

2097
01:32:16,600 --> 01:32:18,080
Speaker 7: that that he'd be great. I mean, and the players

2098
01:32:18,120 --> 01:32:20,280
Speaker 7: talked about it in the locker room and kind of

2099
01:32:20,320 --> 01:32:22,639
Speaker 7: insinuated that maybe he was. But at least with Mayo,

2100
01:32:22,800 --> 01:32:24,720
Speaker 7: we've talked to him, we've seen him on the sideline, we.

2101
01:32:24,800 --> 01:32:26,960
Speaker 6: You know, know a little bit. But it's fair as

2102
01:32:27,040 --> 01:32:27,880
Speaker 6: far as he's.

2103
01:32:27,760 --> 01:32:29,320
Speaker 7: Not the most experienced guy in the world. This is

2104
01:32:29,400 --> 01:32:31,960
Speaker 7: one of the fair criticisms of Draw Mayo. He doesn't have,

2105
01:32:32,439 --> 01:32:35,200
Speaker 7: you know, this depth of work outside of this organization

2106
01:32:35,280 --> 01:32:38,160
Speaker 7: where he's you know, coach multiple position groups and you know,

2107
01:32:38,280 --> 01:32:40,040
Speaker 7: seeing a lot of different stuff. He's kind of been

2108
01:32:40,080 --> 01:32:42,920
Speaker 7: pretty insular here in New England, and you know that's

2109
01:32:43,120 --> 01:32:44,960
Speaker 7: that's part of it. So I don't think you're totally wrong.

2110
01:32:45,120 --> 01:32:49,160
Speaker 4: I think the Cunningham situation is first, I don't really

2111
01:32:49,240 --> 01:32:52,960
Speaker 4: remember any hue and cry outside of fans for Will Grier.

2112
01:32:53,600 --> 01:32:55,640
Speaker 4: I don't remember any players. Sorry, but I think the

2113
01:32:55,720 --> 01:32:59,240
Speaker 4: players looked at Cunningham was they feel some of them

2114
01:32:59,320 --> 01:33:01,920
Speaker 4: feel like he was Une wrong because they didn't let

2115
01:33:01,960 --> 01:33:04,920
Speaker 4: him play quarterback. Yeah, like so that's kind of a

2116
01:33:04,960 --> 01:33:08,280
Speaker 4: different dynamic. It wasn't necessarily that they thought cunning him.

2117
01:33:08,280 --> 01:33:10,559
Speaker 4: I mean, I think some I think Trent Brown said

2118
01:33:10,560 --> 01:33:12,920
Speaker 4: it that, you know, maybe who knows, he could have

2119
01:33:12,960 --> 01:33:16,160
Speaker 4: given us a spark and added some electricity to the offense.

2120
01:33:16,200 --> 01:33:19,240
Speaker 4: But I think that the biggest problem the players had

2121
01:33:19,280 --> 01:33:23,200
Speaker 4: with that situation was that he wasn't allowed to play quarterbacks. Misused,

2122
01:33:23,400 --> 01:33:26,559
Speaker 4: he was misused, mismanner Dasset potentially.

2123
01:33:26,720 --> 01:33:30,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, a couple people emailing they're not happy with the

2124
01:33:31,439 --> 01:33:37,519
Speaker 1: not interviewing people other, you know, other than jirod. So

2125
01:33:37,760 --> 01:33:39,720
Speaker 1: just to get that out there, people are saying that

2126
01:33:40,280 --> 01:33:43,280
Speaker 1: Andre from New Jersey says Fred always had have this

2127
01:33:43,400 --> 01:33:45,439
Speaker 1: saying back in the days when the Chargers used to

2128
01:33:45,520 --> 01:33:47,479
Speaker 1: get off the bus and Cole Weather and blah blah blah,

2129
01:33:48,360 --> 01:33:50,400
Speaker 1: that's what it was like for the Dolphins in case

2130
01:33:50,600 --> 01:33:53,879
Speaker 1: a high powered offense that only scored seven points. Speaking

2131
01:33:53,960 --> 01:33:56,840
Speaker 1: of Fred, I'm a little disappointed in him. I thought

2132
01:33:56,880 --> 01:33:59,760
Speaker 1: he has all the power the boss man, where he

2133
01:33:59,800 --> 01:34:02,400
Speaker 1: can sit in big meetings on Thursday to talk Robert

2134
01:34:02,439 --> 01:34:04,559
Speaker 1: Kraft out of the decision to fire, the greatest coach

2135
01:34:04,640 --> 01:34:06,600
Speaker 1: of all time. Come on, Fred, if you would have

2136
01:34:06,680 --> 01:34:10,920
Speaker 1: said something, Belichick would still be here. Probably would have said.

2137
01:34:10,960 --> 01:34:13,439
Speaker 4: What makes you think you wanted to talk him out

2138
01:34:13,479 --> 01:34:19,639
Speaker 4: of it? Yeah, Miami's problem this year was more than

2139
01:34:20,360 --> 01:34:25,160
Speaker 4: about more than just the weather. So many injuries, but

2140
01:34:25,240 --> 01:34:28,439
Speaker 4: they but that their off their offense basically did that

2141
01:34:28,760 --> 01:34:31,600
Speaker 4: against playoff caliber opponents for most of the year. You know,

2142
01:34:31,640 --> 01:34:33,960
Speaker 4: a couple of exceptions here and there. They they played

2143
01:34:34,040 --> 01:34:37,040
Speaker 4: very well against Dallas, but for the most part they

2144
01:34:37,120 --> 01:34:38,840
Speaker 4: got shut down by by good teams.

2145
01:34:39,360 --> 01:34:41,439
Speaker 11: It was like pretty much like any team over five hundred,

2146
01:34:41,479 --> 01:34:42,840
Speaker 11: they were not great against.

2147
01:34:43,479 --> 01:34:48,920
Speaker 10: They're a fascinating team offensively just because they're their efficiency,

2148
01:34:49,280 --> 01:34:51,439
Speaker 10: like everything's off the charts at that offense, and then

2149
01:34:51,479 --> 01:34:53,800
Speaker 10: they get into these games and they can't score.

2150
01:34:53,960 --> 01:34:57,360
Speaker 4: I thought they didn't run the ball enough Saturday night

2151
01:34:57,520 --> 01:35:02,000
Speaker 4: early in the game. Yeah, but you know, I do

2152
01:35:02,160 --> 01:35:05,680
Speaker 4: think that their injuries like sort of prevented them from

2153
01:35:05,720 --> 01:35:07,000
Speaker 4: having any chance of Look at.

2154
01:35:06,960 --> 01:35:09,719
Speaker 10: McDaniel like that that that was a big thing for McVeigh.

2155
01:35:09,920 --> 01:35:11,559
Speaker 10: And I know, you know when they won the Super

2156
01:35:11,560 --> 01:35:16,960
Speaker 10: Bowl with Stafford, they everybody plays that offense very similarly

2157
01:35:17,080 --> 01:35:20,760
Speaker 10: structurally defensively, and then McVeigh ended up putting some more

2158
01:35:20,840 --> 01:35:24,040
Speaker 10: inside run game into the playbook and like really install

2159
01:35:24,160 --> 01:35:26,599
Speaker 10: like a duo run game. And you know all those

2160
01:35:26,680 --> 01:35:29,920
Speaker 10: like wide zone defenses that they're facing that put all

2161
01:35:29,960 --> 01:35:32,120
Speaker 10: their numbers out on the edges. Now all of a sudden,

2162
01:35:32,160 --> 01:35:33,880
Speaker 10: they're going right up the middle at you and.

2163
01:35:34,320 --> 01:35:35,799
Speaker 4: See Green Bay versus Dallas.

2164
01:35:36,080 --> 01:35:39,760
Speaker 10: Yeah, And I think that that's where McDaniel's issues is

2165
01:35:39,920 --> 01:35:42,720
Speaker 10: right now, is that you know, they're wide zone, wide zone,

2166
01:35:42,760 --> 01:35:44,920
Speaker 10: wide zone, and they're just running it right into the

2167
01:35:45,360 --> 01:35:46,639
Speaker 10: the game plan of the opponent.

2168
01:35:46,800 --> 01:35:49,040
Speaker 7: Doesn't kind of frustrate frustrate you a little bit that

2169
01:35:49,120 --> 01:35:52,200
Speaker 7: the Patriots didn't have more ability to shut that offense down,

2170
01:35:52,240 --> 01:35:53,559
Speaker 7: like because I know that they had they didn't really

2171
01:35:53,600 --> 01:35:55,800
Speaker 7: get rolled over by, but they haven't really been able

2172
01:35:55,840 --> 01:35:57,200
Speaker 7: to beat tua it.

2173
01:35:57,640 --> 01:35:59,120
Speaker 4: You know my answer, So I'll stay out of this.

2174
01:35:59,320 --> 01:36:00,000
Speaker 6: It's frustrated.

2175
01:36:00,360 --> 01:36:02,280
Speaker 7: You know, the other teams seem to give them a

2176
01:36:02,360 --> 01:36:04,840
Speaker 7: lot harder time for the Patriots defense that you know

2177
01:36:05,240 --> 01:36:07,719
Speaker 7: is pretty is pretty pretty well respectful.

2178
01:36:07,760 --> 01:36:10,120
Speaker 10: I still think that the Patriots defense has some issues

2179
01:36:10,160 --> 01:36:12,880
Speaker 10: with the teams that can horizontally stretch the field.

2180
01:36:12,920 --> 01:36:14,559
Speaker 6: What they're saying, but I mean to your point, Pa,

2181
01:36:14,760 --> 01:36:16,200
Speaker 6: I mean, I know what you're saying, but like they.

2182
01:36:16,080 --> 01:36:18,760
Speaker 4: Were better every year. I will say this year I

2183
01:36:18,840 --> 01:36:21,600
Speaker 4: thought they were better against good offenses than they have

2184
01:36:21,720 --> 01:36:24,479
Speaker 4: been in the past, but still kind of average.

2185
01:36:24,560 --> 01:36:26,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's just you know, I would just think at

2186
01:36:27,040 --> 01:36:29,080
Speaker 7: the sample size, like you know, even with Josh Allen,

2187
01:36:29,120 --> 01:36:31,280
Speaker 7: it felt like maybe they started to catch on a little.

2188
01:36:31,040 --> 01:36:32,800
Speaker 6: Bit this year, like they got to do that with

2189
01:36:32,840 --> 01:36:33,519
Speaker 6: two of next year.

2190
01:36:33,960 --> 01:36:36,479
Speaker 1: Connor says, what are your thoughts on Cliff Kingsbury for

2191
01:36:36,680 --> 01:36:39,320
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator and pairing him with a rookie quarterback?

2192
01:36:39,479 --> 01:36:43,720
Speaker 10: So Cliff Kingsbury is going, I think, going to be

2193
01:36:43,760 --> 01:36:47,000
Speaker 10: a coordinator somewhere next year, and it very well could

2194
01:36:47,040 --> 01:36:50,000
Speaker 10: be following Caleb Williams because he's at USC now and

2195
01:36:50,040 --> 01:36:53,599
Speaker 10: apparently has a pretty good relationship with Caleb Williams. I mean,

2196
01:36:53,640 --> 01:36:55,799
Speaker 10: if you're one of these teams that's just like desperate

2197
01:36:55,920 --> 01:36:59,040
Speaker 10: to get any sort of spark for your franchise and

2198
01:36:59,120 --> 01:37:01,840
Speaker 10: you're picking up the top like a Washington or something

2199
01:37:01,960 --> 01:37:04,040
Speaker 10: like that, it's attempting pairing.

2200
01:37:05,479 --> 01:37:08,759
Speaker 1: Marty writes in with Bill now actively looking to coach somewhere,

2201
01:37:08,960 --> 01:37:12,719
Speaker 1: Mary do you think some other teams such as the Bears, Jaguars,

2202
01:37:12,760 --> 01:37:15,360
Speaker 1: and Jets, are now regretting sticking with their head coach,

2203
01:37:15,760 --> 01:37:17,519
Speaker 1: And do you think any of them might change their

2204
01:37:17,600 --> 01:37:20,439
Speaker 1: mind now that Bill's on the market. Personally, I think

2205
01:37:20,479 --> 01:37:22,280
Speaker 1: the Jets are actually the best fit for Bill in

2206
01:37:22,400 --> 01:37:24,840
Speaker 1: terms of roster, and we know he loves Rogers, but

2207
01:37:24,920 --> 01:37:25,360
Speaker 1: I doubt it.

2208
01:37:25,400 --> 01:37:26,160
Speaker 8: Don't love the Jets.

2209
01:37:26,880 --> 01:37:28,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, the Jets were a non factor.

2210
01:37:28,680 --> 01:37:28,880
Speaker 11: I know.

2211
01:37:29,000 --> 01:37:30,360
Speaker 4: I don't think the other teams are.

2212
01:37:30,680 --> 01:37:33,120
Speaker 7: You can't fire your coach thinking you're gonna because one

2213
01:37:33,160 --> 01:37:34,439
Speaker 7: guy what you don't get them, then.

2214
01:37:34,320 --> 01:37:37,160
Speaker 10: You're I do find like the whole Bill thing fascinating though,

2215
01:37:37,160 --> 01:37:40,160
Speaker 10: because you see a lot of Dallas people that are

2216
01:37:40,240 --> 01:37:43,120
Speaker 10: kind of pushing back on the notion of Bill going

2217
01:37:43,240 --> 01:37:46,200
Speaker 10: there because of his age, and you know, they're looking

2218
01:37:46,280 --> 01:37:49,280
Speaker 10: at it like, what do you get Bill for two years?

2219
01:37:49,360 --> 01:37:51,320
Speaker 10: You get Bill maybe for three years and then what

2220
01:37:51,600 --> 01:37:53,839
Speaker 10: you know? And I like a team like the Falcons

2221
01:37:53,880 --> 01:37:56,720
Speaker 10: that's still kind of in the middle of a rebuild there,

2222
01:37:56,960 --> 01:37:57,360
Speaker 10: it's like.

2223
01:37:57,560 --> 01:38:00,920
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I think that concerned that the Cowboys might

2224
01:38:00,960 --> 01:38:03,679
Speaker 1: have would be the same for any team, even more

2225
01:38:03,760 --> 01:38:06,800
Speaker 1: so for the Falcons because I think the Cowboys are

2226
01:38:06,800 --> 01:38:09,200
Speaker 1: ready to win. They've got all the ingredients.

2227
01:38:09,560 --> 01:38:10,160
Speaker 10: That's what I'm saying.

2228
01:38:10,200 --> 01:38:12,320
Speaker 11: Maybe they can get you know, their super Bowl win

2229
01:38:12,400 --> 01:38:13,400
Speaker 11: and be like okay, cool.

2230
01:38:13,560 --> 01:38:13,760
Speaker 17: Yeah.

2231
01:38:14,200 --> 01:38:18,160
Speaker 1: I mean to me, like, if I was a Cowboys fan,

2232
01:38:18,600 --> 01:38:21,000
Speaker 1: it would be worth having Bill Belichick for three years

2233
01:38:21,040 --> 01:38:22,760
Speaker 1: if I knew one of them would be a super Bowl.

2234
01:38:22,840 --> 01:38:23,040
Speaker 8: Yeah.

2235
01:38:23,120 --> 01:38:25,880
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, Well the last part is the key. Yeah,

2236
01:38:26,080 --> 01:38:27,560
Speaker 4: but if I knew one of them was going to

2237
01:38:27,600 --> 01:38:28,200
Speaker 4: be a super Bowl.

2238
01:38:28,280 --> 01:38:31,280
Speaker 11: But if Falcons needing more helpful, But I.

2239
01:38:31,240 --> 01:38:32,759
Speaker 4: Would sign up for it. If I were the Falcons

2240
01:38:32,800 --> 01:38:33,960
Speaker 4: and I only had them for three years and I

2241
01:38:34,000 --> 01:38:35,360
Speaker 4: knew one of them was going to be a super Bowl,

2242
01:38:35,360 --> 01:38:38,000
Speaker 4: I don't sign up. But that's if you're not going

2243
01:38:38,040 --> 01:38:39,639
Speaker 4: to get the super Bowl. No, I know, but you're

2244
01:38:39,680 --> 01:38:40,360
Speaker 4: in the same spot.

2245
01:38:40,400 --> 01:38:42,560
Speaker 1: But that's a lot more likely. With the Cowboys and

2246
01:38:42,640 --> 01:38:46,720
Speaker 1: the Falcons, it's a little more likely. I think a

2247
01:38:46,800 --> 01:38:47,240
Speaker 1: lot more.

2248
01:38:47,680 --> 01:38:49,800
Speaker 4: I think Bill could do something with that Falcons team.

2249
01:38:50,560 --> 01:38:52,360
Speaker 6: I'd like to see what Bill did with Michael Parsons.

2250
01:38:52,400 --> 01:38:52,960
Speaker 7: That would be fun.

2251
01:38:53,120 --> 01:38:54,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you've yeah.

2252
01:38:54,880 --> 01:38:59,320
Speaker 1: I mean that's why that's why McCarthy's getting fired, is

2253
01:38:59,439 --> 01:39:01,680
Speaker 1: because they know that they're a hell of a lot

2254
01:39:01,760 --> 01:39:03,519
Speaker 1: better than one and done for everything.

2255
01:39:03,800 --> 01:39:07,200
Speaker 10: All the crap that Jerry Jones does get they can

2256
01:39:07,280 --> 01:39:10,360
Speaker 10: build it. The roster down there in Dallas sold they're

2257
01:39:10,439 --> 01:39:12,719
Speaker 10: one of the best talent evaluating teams in the league.

2258
01:39:12,840 --> 01:39:15,160
Speaker 4: All I ever hear is that they're meddling owners that

2259
01:39:15,280 --> 01:39:18,559
Speaker 4: think they're the GM. Stephen Jones is the GM. Yeah,

2260
01:39:18,640 --> 01:39:21,479
Speaker 4: and they can't keep their minds their noses out of football.

2261
01:39:21,840 --> 01:39:23,320
Speaker 4: And then every year they get knocked out of the

2262
01:39:23,320 --> 01:39:26,679
Speaker 4: playoffs in the first round and everybody says they underachieved. Again,

2263
01:39:26,920 --> 01:39:29,840
Speaker 4: imagine all that talent and one of those things can't

2264
01:39:29,840 --> 01:39:30,599
Speaker 4: be true, right.

2265
01:39:30,560 --> 01:39:32,479
Speaker 1: But if you have the right coach that can mix

2266
01:39:32,600 --> 01:39:36,160
Speaker 1: that talent together, then now you're a super Bowl content.

2267
01:39:36,000 --> 01:39:36,280
Speaker 6: Do you think?

2268
01:39:36,920 --> 01:39:38,320
Speaker 4: But is he the right coach? Yeah?

2269
01:39:38,400 --> 01:39:41,479
Speaker 10: I mean Will McClay is like the he's the real

2270
01:39:41,560 --> 01:39:44,000
Speaker 10: hero behind the scenes there in Dallas there is that

2271
01:39:44,080 --> 01:39:47,639
Speaker 10: the guy that they won't let player, like the real

2272
01:39:48,040 --> 01:39:50,960
Speaker 10: scout on that staff and the Joneses kind of just

2273
01:39:51,040 --> 01:39:52,000
Speaker 10: make the final decisions.

2274
01:39:52,360 --> 01:39:55,600
Speaker 1: David and Bethlehem Patriots have a dilemma, it says. The

2275
01:39:55,800 --> 01:39:58,720
Speaker 1: subject line is we're number three. It's like Friday night

2276
01:39:58,920 --> 01:40:01,200
Speaker 1: when they put the lights on low and you wonder

2277
01:40:01,240 --> 01:40:03,840
Speaker 1: if you should ask her for that last dance. Hate me,

2278
01:40:04,000 --> 01:40:06,519
Speaker 1: but the Patriots have so many needs that trade back

2279
01:40:06,640 --> 01:40:07,160
Speaker 1: makes sense.

2280
01:40:08,560 --> 01:40:12,679
Speaker 4: I like that take better than Deuce's. Let's run it back, run.

2281
01:40:12,640 --> 01:40:13,439
Speaker 8: It back to Mac.

2282
01:40:14,240 --> 01:40:15,880
Speaker 7: I'm making t shirts you can buy him on that.

2283
01:40:16,479 --> 01:40:20,599
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know, trade down, and don't mix

2284
01:40:20,720 --> 01:40:22,920
Speaker 4: those up with twenty eight to three because Mac would

2285
01:40:22,920 --> 01:40:23,679
Speaker 4: stand no chance.

2286
01:40:25,160 --> 01:40:31,719
Speaker 1: Let's see Elliott Alex and Mount Holly says, yes, algebra

2287
01:40:31,880 --> 01:40:34,919
Speaker 1: does help you in everyday life after grade school. For example,

2288
01:40:35,560 --> 01:40:38,160
Speaker 1: the any piece of track BB from HC and ad

2289
01:40:38,360 --> 01:40:42,360
Speaker 1: JM to equal seven s B. In all seriousness, I

2290
01:40:42,400 --> 01:40:45,320
Speaker 1: hope GIROD could start to build some success in a

2291
01:40:45,360 --> 01:40:48,599
Speaker 1: few years. We make the playoffs soon onto more important news.

2292
01:40:48,680 --> 01:40:50,960
Speaker 1: I think Bill landing in Dallas makes sense for both

2293
01:40:51,040 --> 01:40:53,640
Speaker 1: sides to win a title in a small window. Just

2294
01:40:53,720 --> 01:40:57,400
Speaker 1: don't think the working relationship makes sense between Jerry and Bill.

2295
01:40:57,840 --> 01:41:00,479
Speaker 1: I think the real team to hire Bill is Philly.

2296
01:41:01,240 --> 01:41:04,320
Speaker 1: As for the draft, as a proud North Carolina State

2297
01:41:04,360 --> 01:41:07,160
Speaker 1: alum and hatred for University of Spoiled Children, I would

2298
01:41:07,320 --> 01:41:09,960
Speaker 1: be more than happy to take Daniels at three because

2299
01:41:09,960 --> 01:41:11,920
Speaker 1: I love the upside in him. I think he could

2300
01:41:12,080 --> 01:41:15,360
Speaker 1: be close to what Stroud had for regular for a

2301
01:41:15,439 --> 01:41:19,080
Speaker 1: rookie regular season if the situation doesn't ruin him. And

2302
01:41:19,200 --> 01:41:21,400
Speaker 1: from what I've heard, he has a better work ethic

2303
01:41:21,520 --> 01:41:24,720
Speaker 1: than May and Williams. Back up Joe Alt and take

2304
01:41:24,760 --> 01:41:28,080
Speaker 1: two wide receivers on day two. Finally, my short list

2305
01:41:28,160 --> 01:41:32,240
Speaker 1: for GM is as follows former offensive coordinator assistant Evan Lazar,

2306
01:41:33,360 --> 01:41:36,320
Speaker 1: Elliott Wolf, Dave Ziegler, Bill's dog, Nike, and a fall

2307
01:41:36,400 --> 01:41:38,439
Speaker 1: else fails. Paul, I.

2308
01:41:42,320 --> 01:41:44,520
Speaker 10: Haven't talked to me if they if I want to interview.

2309
01:41:44,320 --> 01:41:47,559
Speaker 4: Yet, I like the the work, the work ethic.

2310
01:41:47,720 --> 01:41:49,439
Speaker 1: What if I say that you're doing.

2311
01:41:51,200 --> 01:41:52,920
Speaker 4: Than Drake May and Caleb I.

2312
01:41:52,920 --> 01:41:54,519
Speaker 10: Can I can double do. I can do both.

2313
01:41:54,600 --> 01:41:57,400
Speaker 4: Okay, it seems like it seems like a very well

2314
01:41:57,520 --> 01:41:59,360
Speaker 4: sourced Uh yeah, take right.

2315
01:41:59,400 --> 01:41:59,599
Speaker 8: Well.

2316
01:42:00,439 --> 01:42:03,760
Speaker 10: In defense of the emailer, Jaden Daniels does have a

2317
01:42:03,840 --> 01:42:06,400
Speaker 10: lot of positive buzz about how much better he has got,

2318
01:42:07,040 --> 01:42:09,280
Speaker 10: you know, like Calebilliams has just been good the whole time,

2319
01:42:09,840 --> 01:42:11,280
Speaker 10: which I'm cool with that, but that.

2320
01:42:11,880 --> 01:42:14,120
Speaker 4: Means he has a bad work ethic. No, Like so

2321
01:42:14,280 --> 01:42:16,840
Speaker 4: those two, he might have the very same work ethic

2322
01:42:16,880 --> 01:42:19,680
Speaker 4: that Jayden Daniels. Has he just started at a higher level.

2323
01:42:19,800 --> 01:42:21,920
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, But Jaden Daniels, you know, I was talking

2324
01:42:22,000 --> 01:42:24,320
Speaker 10: to like Kaysehan Boody for example, in the locker room

2325
01:42:24,360 --> 01:42:26,160
Speaker 10: like a couple of months ago about Jayden Daniels and

2326
01:42:26,200 --> 01:42:28,559
Speaker 10: he was like, you know he was with him last year.

2327
01:42:28,600 --> 01:42:31,120
Speaker 10: Obviously he's like last year, you know, like there's a

2328
01:42:31,160 --> 01:42:33,040
Speaker 10: lot of to be honest, there's a lot of holes

2329
01:42:33,040 --> 01:42:35,080
Speaker 10: in his game. Like there was just things that you know,

2330
01:42:35,560 --> 01:42:37,680
Speaker 10: you could tell that wasn't all the way there. But

2331
01:42:37,800 --> 01:42:40,040
Speaker 10: now watching him now and talking to the guys back there,

2332
01:42:40,160 --> 01:42:41,160
Speaker 10: he really went to work.

2333
01:42:41,200 --> 01:42:44,759
Speaker 4: Okay. Just you know how sometimes we have these asides

2334
01:42:44,840 --> 01:42:49,040
Speaker 4: on journalism in general, like that is a perfect example

2335
01:42:49,720 --> 01:42:52,960
Speaker 4: of why there is a lot of value in being

2336
01:42:53,000 --> 01:42:55,280
Speaker 4: in the locker room and the other talk to players.

2337
01:42:55,800 --> 01:42:57,880
Speaker 11: You have to evidence in the locker room, he goes

2338
01:42:57,920 --> 01:42:58,160
Speaker 11: to work.

2339
01:42:58,200 --> 01:43:00,680
Speaker 4: No, Like I know a lot of people think that

2340
01:43:01,560 --> 01:43:03,120
Speaker 4: reporters just want to go in the locker room so

2341
01:43:03,200 --> 01:43:04,880
Speaker 4: they can get the dirt and they can you know,

2342
01:43:05,400 --> 01:43:08,120
Speaker 4: they get they cozy up to players and they get

2343
01:43:08,160 --> 01:43:10,960
Speaker 4: their sources and they want to rip everybody. And you know,

2344
01:43:11,080 --> 01:43:13,400
Speaker 4: like Parcels used to say, he used to call us

2345
01:43:13,479 --> 01:43:17,360
Speaker 4: commis subvert from within, right, that's what he used to Like.

2346
01:43:17,840 --> 01:43:21,280
Speaker 4: That's not generally why everybody wants to do the job,

2347
01:43:22,080 --> 01:43:25,759
Speaker 4: but that's an example of how you can get value

2348
01:43:25,800 --> 01:43:27,599
Speaker 4: out of being in the locker room. You get one

2349
01:43:27,640 --> 01:43:31,560
Speaker 4: of Jaden Daniels, not just teammates from last year, but

2350
01:43:31,600 --> 01:43:33,560
Speaker 4: a guy he threw the ball to last year, and

2351
01:43:33,680 --> 01:43:35,720
Speaker 4: you get his take on a guy like that. That's

2352
01:43:36,560 --> 01:43:41,080
Speaker 4: that's valuable information. Yes, that is another compliment and the

2353
01:43:41,160 --> 01:43:43,280
Speaker 4: other one, you know, you can take it if you want.

2354
01:43:47,040 --> 01:43:48,080
Speaker 10: Really meant a lot to me.

2355
01:43:49,320 --> 01:43:51,800
Speaker 1: Boardes used to go in the locker room, speaking of

2356
01:43:51,880 --> 01:43:52,960
Speaker 1: subverting from within.

2357
01:43:54,040 --> 01:43:55,000
Speaker 4: They're not using you enough.

2358
01:43:55,120 --> 01:43:56,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're not getting enough reps.

2359
01:43:57,160 --> 01:43:57,679
Speaker 8: This is true.

2360
01:43:58,160 --> 01:43:59,040
Speaker 4: You should play more.

2361
01:44:00,040 --> 01:44:02,000
Speaker 1: I can't believe they haven't given you an extension yet,

2362
01:44:02,160 --> 01:44:03,800
Speaker 1: you know, and just get the guy going.

2363
01:44:04,880 --> 01:44:05,920
Speaker 4: That's what they do in New York.

2364
01:44:06,320 --> 01:44:08,439
Speaker 10: I do really love that though, Like, especially at the

2365
01:44:08,479 --> 01:44:10,960
Speaker 10: Patriots locker room, there's a lot of guys in there

2366
01:44:11,000 --> 01:44:13,200
Speaker 10: that have played high level college football. And you know,

2367
01:44:13,600 --> 01:44:17,280
Speaker 10: whether it's talking to guys about BAMA guys, LSU guys,

2368
01:44:17,640 --> 01:44:18,880
Speaker 10: Michigan guys.

2369
01:44:19,040 --> 01:44:21,559
Speaker 6: Michigan, Virginia Tech, not just kidding.

2370
01:44:21,960 --> 01:44:23,920
Speaker 11: There used to be just can I hear anymore?

2371
01:44:23,960 --> 01:44:27,960
Speaker 10: Texas Texas got Adrian Phillips in there from Texas School.

2372
01:44:29,000 --> 01:44:29,799
Speaker 10: Adrian Phillips.

2373
01:44:30,320 --> 01:44:31,599
Speaker 6: Sorry, one of them wasn't all pro.

2374
01:44:33,280 --> 01:44:35,080
Speaker 4: Michigan, wasn't Phillips.

2375
01:44:35,439 --> 01:44:37,120
Speaker 1: Eric's in New Jersey? What's up? Eric?

2376
01:44:38,000 --> 01:44:39,360
Speaker 4: I mean school?

2377
01:44:39,360 --> 01:44:39,680
Speaker 8: All right?

2378
01:44:42,080 --> 01:44:44,680
Speaker 21: The only guess you I had with Craft? Uh with

2379
01:44:44,840 --> 01:44:48,000
Speaker 21: Craft Beach the other day when he gave a compliment,

2380
01:44:48,040 --> 01:44:50,519
Speaker 21: I'm saying that he knew more football than him. I

2381
01:44:50,640 --> 01:44:52,120
Speaker 21: just know we're gonna live that. We're not gonna let

2382
01:44:52,120 --> 01:44:55,040
Speaker 21: that one down for a while. But the offensive coordinators,

2383
01:44:56,479 --> 01:44:58,519
Speaker 21: what do you guys think of you know, maybe like

2384
01:44:58,560 --> 01:45:01,240
Speaker 21: a the enemy you know in a bag. Maybe Nick Keley,

2385
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Speaker 21: some of these guys like what is the chance that

2386
01:45:03,920 --> 01:45:06,479
Speaker 21: maybe we can get that farmhouse where we once had

2387
01:45:06,560 --> 01:45:09,240
Speaker 21: that system where we can just repunished guys up? What

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01:45:09,320 --> 01:45:11,519
Speaker 21: do you think the GIRO take moving forward? And I'll

2389
01:45:11,520 --> 01:45:12,160
Speaker 21: take it off the line.

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Speaker 1: Thanks, okay, thanks sir.

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01:45:15,200 --> 01:45:16,680
Speaker 6: There, I don't know. I mean what Nick Kelly has

2392
01:45:16,680 --> 01:45:17,200
Speaker 6: gone one year.

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Speaker 7: I mean I like him.

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01:45:19,040 --> 01:45:22,400
Speaker 6: I just I question if that's enough of a shift.

2395
01:45:22,200 --> 01:45:25,479
Speaker 4: For people bring him up as an offensive But.

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01:45:25,479 --> 01:45:27,599
Speaker 7: He's gonna come here and teach the new offense to everybody.

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01:45:27,680 --> 01:45:29,400
Speaker 7: After just one year as whatever he was.

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01:45:29,439 --> 01:45:33,360
Speaker 10: There the offense, I had to bring him back as

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01:45:33,479 --> 01:45:35,000
Speaker 10: Liken's coach again.

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01:45:35,600 --> 01:45:38,560
Speaker 4: He wasn't it He with the Raiders, Nick Kelly, he

2401
01:45:38,600 --> 01:45:41,080
Speaker 4: didn't go to the he's with the Rams. Oh yeah,

2402
01:45:41,560 --> 01:45:43,120
Speaker 4: then that would be even more interested in him.

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01:45:43,280 --> 01:45:45,559
Speaker 10: Yeah no, I mean I'd much rather try to poach

2404
01:45:45,640 --> 01:45:46,240
Speaker 10: Zack Robinson.

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01:45:46,400 --> 01:45:49,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, me too. And we could always bring back Bill

2406
01:45:49,000 --> 01:45:51,160
Speaker 4: because he would really like Zach Robinson because he covered

2407
01:45:51,200 --> 01:45:54,200
Speaker 4: kicks when he was a rookie. What a back covering kicks.

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01:45:54,880 --> 01:45:55,679
Speaker 10: That's really impressive.

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01:45:57,160 --> 01:45:58,720
Speaker 1: Williams practice.

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01:46:00,160 --> 01:46:00,320
Speaker 5: Them?

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01:46:00,840 --> 01:46:01,120
Speaker 8: Okay?

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01:46:01,400 --> 01:46:02,599
Speaker 19: How the team going over there?

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01:46:02,640 --> 01:46:02,840
Speaker 5: Y'all?

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01:46:02,840 --> 01:46:09,960
Speaker 10: Okay, I'm not great, William. Have you seen the football

2415
01:46:10,000 --> 01:46:10,479
Speaker 10: team lately?

2416
01:46:10,560 --> 01:46:12,280
Speaker 4: William Evan wants a GM.

2417
01:46:14,200 --> 01:46:16,479
Speaker 11: I would like to stop stop snow trying.

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01:46:17,000 --> 01:46:21,000
Speaker 10: We're trying together because we're brave, right.

2419
01:46:22,400 --> 01:46:24,280
Speaker 19: I don't know where to begin because I have so

2420
01:46:24,439 --> 01:46:26,240
Speaker 19: many tastes and I know it's like one forty five.

2421
01:46:26,240 --> 01:46:29,720
Speaker 19: I know you're about to be done, so I'll just

2422
01:46:29,720 --> 01:46:33,160
Speaker 19: start with this one day, Evan, you said someone catch

2423
01:46:33,200 --> 01:46:38,719
Speaker 19: twenty two that Jayson Daniels is something like justin Fields.

2424
01:46:39,320 --> 01:46:43,040
Speaker 19: So my take to you is, Okay, if the if

2425
01:46:43,120 --> 01:46:45,280
Speaker 19: the Patriots, I'm not saying that I want this to

2426
01:46:45,320 --> 01:46:47,200
Speaker 19: happen that I don't want nobody around the but if

2427
01:46:47,280 --> 01:46:52,240
Speaker 19: they did take Marvin Harrison Junior, you wouldn't trade see

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01:46:52,240 --> 01:46:54,479
Speaker 19: what in the second round basically to get a Justin

2429
01:46:54,520 --> 01:46:57,080
Speaker 19: Fields seeing you saying Jay and Dan's is almost like

2430
01:46:57,240 --> 01:47:01,000
Speaker 19: him or somewhat of it has some of historys Uh.

2431
01:47:02,160 --> 01:47:04,439
Speaker 10: I don't know. I guess like if it's a second

2432
01:47:04,800 --> 01:47:09,280
Speaker 10: maybe I think about it, but I just would Justin Fields,

2433
01:47:09,560 --> 01:47:12,120
Speaker 10: I just feel like if it was going to click

2434
01:47:12,200 --> 01:47:16,080
Speaker 10: for him as a complete passer, it would have clicked.

2435
01:47:16,120 --> 01:47:17,679
Speaker 10: It's kind of like what we were talking about earlier,

2436
01:47:17,760 --> 01:47:19,560
Speaker 10: like you would have seen it by now. And I

2437
01:47:19,720 --> 01:47:23,280
Speaker 10: just yeah, I just I just don't. It's very rare

2438
01:47:23,360 --> 01:47:26,080
Speaker 10: that a guy like five six years in now it happens.

2439
01:47:26,120 --> 01:47:28,400
Speaker 10: You know, Baker Mayfield, Gino Smith, those guys have done

2440
01:47:28,439 --> 01:47:30,519
Speaker 10: it a little bit, I guess, but it's pretty rare

2441
01:47:30,760 --> 01:47:32,400
Speaker 10: that it just all of a sudden comes together for

2442
01:47:32,439 --> 01:47:33,000
Speaker 10: a guy like that.

2443
01:47:34,080 --> 01:47:38,479
Speaker 19: Okay, one last question this foot fall. Well, I see

2444
01:47:38,560 --> 01:47:41,880
Speaker 19: that you are very much into trading damp Okay, so

2445
01:47:42,560 --> 01:47:44,320
Speaker 19: can you give me a scenario what it would look

2446
01:47:44,439 --> 01:47:47,479
Speaker 19: like as far as okay, we trade down with whatever team,

2447
01:47:47,640 --> 01:47:50,479
Speaker 19: what would we get back and return other than they

2448
01:47:50,520 --> 01:47:52,479
Speaker 19: are picking the first round? What else would we get?

2449
01:47:54,479 --> 01:47:58,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just think it's it's a possibility if you

2450
01:47:58,560 --> 01:48:01,880
Speaker 4: don't have a quarterback. If a quarterback is not there

2451
01:48:01,920 --> 01:48:07,200
Speaker 4: at three, I would be listening to offers. But yeah,

2452
01:48:07,280 --> 01:48:10,600
Speaker 4: you get maybe a first round pick next year and

2453
01:48:10,680 --> 01:48:11,840
Speaker 4: a second round pick this year.

2454
01:48:12,280 --> 01:48:12,559
Speaker 1: You could.

2455
01:48:12,680 --> 01:48:15,400
Speaker 4: I mean, depending on how far that team wants to

2456
01:48:15,520 --> 01:48:18,920
Speaker 4: move you can get. Obviously, the bigger jump a team makes,

2457
01:48:18,960 --> 01:48:21,280
Speaker 4: the more you're gonna get. But the more then you're

2458
01:48:21,320 --> 01:48:25,000
Speaker 4: gonna drop right right. But like that, that to me

2459
01:48:25,240 --> 01:48:31,719
Speaker 4: is okay because I don't need alt Or for Shanu.

2460
01:48:31,920 --> 01:48:35,160
Speaker 4: I can get another tackle, you know, at eleven, I

2461
01:48:35,240 --> 01:48:39,599
Speaker 4: don't need to get the best tackle quarterback. I want

2462
01:48:39,640 --> 01:48:42,240
Speaker 4: my pick of the litter, you know. Like that, that's

2463
01:48:42,280 --> 01:48:43,040
Speaker 4: a little bit different.

2464
01:48:43,040 --> 01:48:46,640
Speaker 1: You gotta love them. Thanks will Let's see, But.

2465
01:48:46,640 --> 01:48:50,400
Speaker 4: I'm not necessarily you know, that's gung hope for trading

2466
01:48:50,560 --> 01:48:53,880
Speaker 4: trading down. I just think it's if if Williams and

2467
01:48:53,920 --> 01:48:56,280
Speaker 4: Mago won two and you're not sold on Daniels, I

2468
01:48:57,080 --> 01:48:57,800
Speaker 4: think that's in play.

2469
01:48:57,880 --> 01:48:59,320
Speaker 6: There might be some interest to that pick. I mean,

2470
01:48:59,360 --> 01:49:01,320
Speaker 6: you've got because someone is going to be there.

2471
01:49:01,240 --> 01:49:04,800
Speaker 4: Because someone will be interested in Daniels, and a team

2472
01:49:04,880 --> 01:49:07,880
Speaker 4: that maybe already has a quarterback might strongly be interested

2473
01:49:07,920 --> 01:49:09,679
Speaker 4: in Harrison or Nabs.

2474
01:49:11,120 --> 01:49:14,400
Speaker 10: So last year, the Cardinals traded down exactly from three, right,

2475
01:49:14,479 --> 01:49:16,280
Speaker 10: they went from three to twelve. Now that's a little

2476
01:49:16,320 --> 01:49:16,920
Speaker 10: bit far from me.

2477
01:49:17,160 --> 01:49:18,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the Houston pick.

2478
01:49:18,400 --> 01:49:20,160
Speaker 10: But right, so that's the Houston pick. So they got

2479
01:49:20,640 --> 01:49:23,920
Speaker 10: for number three, they got number twelve, number thirty three,

2480
01:49:24,360 --> 01:49:27,240
Speaker 10: a twenty twenty four first rounder, and a twenty twenty

2481
01:49:27,280 --> 01:49:30,320
Speaker 10: four to third rounder for number three and number one

2482
01:49:30,400 --> 01:49:30,760
Speaker 10: oh five.

2483
01:49:31,960 --> 01:49:34,360
Speaker 4: That's that's the Hall. But that's what I'm talking about.

2484
01:49:34,840 --> 01:49:37,640
Speaker 4: That's nine spots though, But I'd be interested in that

2485
01:49:37,760 --> 01:49:40,960
Speaker 4: if I had decided I don't really like Daniels, Right,

2486
01:49:41,000 --> 01:49:43,000
Speaker 4: So what they did, I like Daniels. I'm staying put

2487
01:49:43,040 --> 01:49:45,040
Speaker 4: and taking because then they traded back up from twelve.

2488
01:49:45,840 --> 01:49:48,200
Speaker 4: So they used what they got, ycause.

2489
01:49:48,040 --> 01:49:49,840
Speaker 10: To trade back up like three or four spots to

2490
01:49:49,880 --> 01:49:52,240
Speaker 10: take Paris Johnson at like seven or something like that.

2491
01:49:52,560 --> 01:49:53,880
Speaker 6: So it sounds good.

2492
01:49:53,960 --> 01:49:54,400
Speaker 12: That's a hall.

2493
01:49:54,439 --> 01:49:56,360
Speaker 6: I mean, when you're a team like the Patriots right

2494
01:49:56,400 --> 01:49:59,040
Speaker 6: now it's it's and they short on draft pick two

2495
01:49:59,120 --> 01:50:00,240
Speaker 6: first rounders next year.

2496
01:50:01,439 --> 01:50:02,360
Speaker 7: I mean, I like that.

2497
01:50:02,800 --> 01:50:06,040
Speaker 1: Gino from Jersey. Uh just wanted to point out what

2498
01:50:06,200 --> 01:50:09,040
Speaker 1: you guys said earlier about drafting Harrison and ending up

2499
01:50:09,080 --> 01:50:11,439
Speaker 1: like the Jets with Wilson. Why can't we go the

2500
01:50:11,520 --> 01:50:13,600
Speaker 1: forty nine ers route and get the players first for

2501
01:50:13,680 --> 01:50:16,160
Speaker 1: any quarterback to succeed. I know it might be difficult

2502
01:50:16,200 --> 01:50:19,000
Speaker 1: because you'd have to draft right and develop players, but

2503
01:50:19,080 --> 01:50:22,120
Speaker 1: if we're patient enough, the payoff could be amazing. What's

2504
01:50:22,160 --> 01:50:22,679
Speaker 1: your opinion?

2505
01:50:23,200 --> 01:50:26,719
Speaker 4: Okay, So that is a possibility, and that is something

2506
01:50:26,760 --> 01:50:29,600
Speaker 4: that a lot of people talk about. So what do

2507
01:50:29,680 --> 01:50:32,519
Speaker 4: you think of Breis Hall as a player? What do

2508
01:50:32,600 --> 01:50:38,280
Speaker 4: you think of Garrett Wilson, Jeremiah Johnson? There's pretty good players,

2509
01:50:39,200 --> 01:50:44,200
Speaker 4: Jermaine call them Jeremiah Jermaine Johnson, you know. But Quentin

2510
01:50:44,280 --> 01:50:46,880
Speaker 4: Williams would be another one. So the Jets are an

2511
01:50:46,920 --> 01:50:52,719
Speaker 4: example of the Niners. They're trying to get everything quarterback proof,

2512
01:50:54,560 --> 01:50:56,160
Speaker 4: but they don't have a quarterback.

2513
01:50:56,320 --> 01:50:58,200
Speaker 6: And how long can you keep the quarterback play together?

2514
01:50:58,680 --> 01:51:01,120
Speaker 4: So they did the same thing that the Niners did,

2515
01:51:01,640 --> 01:51:04,240
Speaker 4: only they did it at two instead of three, same draft,

2516
01:51:05,320 --> 01:51:11,679
Speaker 4: same bust. It's hard. And if Brock Purdy was no good,

2517
01:51:12,040 --> 01:51:15,720
Speaker 4: I'm not arguing with you. If he was no good

2518
01:51:15,800 --> 01:51:18,439
Speaker 4: at all, they would not be a super Bowl threat.

2519
01:51:19,040 --> 01:51:21,880
Speaker 4: If he was Zach Wilson playing like Zach Wilson with

2520
01:51:21,960 --> 01:51:23,880
Speaker 4: the Jets, they would not be a threat to go

2521
01:51:23,960 --> 01:51:24,519
Speaker 4: to the super Bowl.

2522
01:51:24,720 --> 01:51:26,240
Speaker 10: Would have Zach Wilson playing like a kid.

2523
01:51:26,439 --> 01:51:29,160
Speaker 4: That's a different argument. I'm just kidding, no, But but

2524
01:51:29,240 --> 01:51:31,560
Speaker 4: that's a different argument. And that might be true. And

2525
01:51:31,680 --> 01:51:33,360
Speaker 4: I think there's a lot to be said about these

2526
01:51:33,439 --> 01:51:36,200
Speaker 4: quarterbacks getting in different spots and that can make a

2527
01:51:36,240 --> 01:51:40,000
Speaker 4: big imprint on I think Bill helped Tom. I don't

2528
01:51:40,000 --> 01:51:42,120
Speaker 4: think Brady would have been Brady just anywhere.

2529
01:51:42,240 --> 01:51:43,680
Speaker 10: I think that that's such a big part of it

2530
01:51:43,840 --> 01:51:46,160
Speaker 10: is it's I always say it all like I say

2531
01:51:46,240 --> 01:51:48,720
Speaker 10: too much, but like it's nurturing, right, Like it's not

2532
01:51:49,040 --> 01:51:52,000
Speaker 10: just all these guys got talent, like Jayden Daniels, Drake

2533
01:51:52,080 --> 01:51:54,280
Speaker 10: may Kayla, like all the three of them have an

2534
01:51:54,360 --> 01:51:55,479
Speaker 10: immense amount of talent.

2535
01:51:55,640 --> 01:51:59,240
Speaker 4: The question is I just feel like everybody talks about, well,

2536
01:51:59,280 --> 01:52:01,160
Speaker 4: build the team and then put the quarterback in it.

2537
01:52:01,200 --> 01:52:04,640
Speaker 4: And they mentioned San Francisco. They mentioned Philadelphia. No one

2538
01:52:04,720 --> 01:52:06,439
Speaker 4: mentions the other teams that try to do it. It

2539
01:52:06,600 --> 01:52:09,519
Speaker 4: doesn't work like the Jets. The Jets have hit on

2540
01:52:09,640 --> 01:52:13,000
Speaker 4: a lot of a lot of picks, Sauce Gardner, He

2541
01:52:13,120 --> 01:52:16,400
Speaker 4: any good, all pro like, they've hit on a lot

2542
01:52:16,479 --> 01:52:19,960
Speaker 4: of their picks. They've done what the Niners did. But

2543
01:52:20,080 --> 01:52:23,920
Speaker 4: they don't have a quarterback. So I know they're trying

2544
01:52:23,960 --> 01:52:26,679
Speaker 4: to PLoP Aaron Rodgers in and we'll see what happens.

2545
01:52:26,760 --> 01:52:27,840
Speaker 4: It might work, But to.

2546
01:52:27,880 --> 01:52:31,320
Speaker 10: Douce his point too, like reality is, that's not all

2547
01:52:31,400 --> 01:52:36,719
Speaker 10: that sustainable because eventually guys get expensive, the roster starts

2548
01:52:36,760 --> 01:52:38,360
Speaker 10: to age out, things happen, and.

2549
01:52:38,400 --> 01:52:41,599
Speaker 4: It's really hard to hit every time, right, So it's

2550
01:52:41,680 --> 01:52:44,080
Speaker 4: way harder to do what the Niners did personnel wise

2551
01:52:45,160 --> 01:52:47,280
Speaker 4: than it is to hit on Joe Burrow the Niners.

2552
01:52:47,320 --> 01:52:49,479
Speaker 10: As much as I make fun of Brock Party, like,

2553
01:52:49,560 --> 01:52:51,960
Speaker 10: at least brock Purty's young, right, and they have him

2554
01:52:52,000 --> 01:52:54,720
Speaker 10: on the rookie contract for the foreseeable future, so they

2555
01:52:54,840 --> 01:52:57,000
Speaker 10: get that benefit. But like a team like the Jets,

2556
01:52:57,280 --> 01:52:59,439
Speaker 10: if it works, it's gonna work for like one year.

2557
01:52:59,560 --> 01:53:05,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, Aaron, Because Zach Wilson didn't work right, absolutely.

2558
01:53:04,640 --> 01:53:06,600
Speaker 1: All right, it's been a good show. We got to

2559
01:53:06,800 --> 01:53:10,360
Speaker 1: end a little early. But tomorrow at noon is the

2560
01:53:10,640 --> 01:53:15,880
Speaker 1: Girodmeo presser. Do we have playbook tomorrow or no? No playbook,

2561
01:53:16,400 --> 01:53:19,000
Speaker 1: But then Thursday we'll be back at noon with Catch

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Speaker 1: twenty two in the morning before us. So get ready

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