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Speaker 1: Welcome to Creature future production of I Heart Radio. I'm

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Speaker 1: your host of Many Parasites, Katie Golden. I studied psychology

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Speaker 1: and evolutionary biology, and today on the show, we're talking

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Speaker 1: about some scary urban legends about animals and showing you

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Speaker 1: that there's nothing to fear. Well, okay, maybe there is,

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Speaker 1: but it's not what you think. From getting swallowed by

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Speaker 1: a whale to a small fish going where no fish

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Speaker 1: has gone before, we're going to see what you should

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Speaker 1: really be scared of. Discover this more as we answer

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Speaker 1: to the ansual question, wow, are you telling me that

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Speaker 1: Gray's anatomy might have stretched the truth? Joining me today

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Speaker 1: is someone who puts the legend in urban legends, video essays,

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Speaker 1: and snake lover Maggie may Fish. Hello, Gaty, Welcome back

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Speaker 1: to the show. Thank you. I I'm actually really excited

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Speaker 1: for this episode because I like to be greatly afraid.

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Speaker 1: I like to be afraid of things that I don't

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Speaker 1: need to be afraid about, but I like being afraid,

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Speaker 1: so I like to aim it um at those responsible

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Speaker 1: in this case animals, right exactly, Like when I see

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Speaker 1: a bear, I'm like, can I see, like how big

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Speaker 1: your teeth let me measure your teeth, let me measure

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Speaker 1: your close see if I really should be afraid of you? Okay,

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Speaker 1: are you still cub or you? Oh? I see that

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Speaker 1: you've like bit my arm off. All right, you're right,

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Speaker 1: you you from criteria. You ken that I am afraid

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Speaker 1: of you? Yes, indeed. Yeah. I mean I think that

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Speaker 1: there are a lot of urban legends about animals. Some

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Speaker 1: of them are not really the truth, but there is

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Speaker 1: something out there that is just as scary. So which

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Speaker 1: is always funny to me, because I think it makes

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Speaker 1: sense why we have urban legends, because you know, it's

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Speaker 1: fun to be scared or rationalizing are already existing fears.

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Speaker 1: But then when there's something that's real that actually does

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Speaker 1: those things, that doesn't quite make it to be an

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Speaker 1: urban legend, it's like, well, okay, it's right there, you

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Speaker 1: got the truth. Yeah exactly. Yeah. So I don't know

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Speaker 1: if you've seen this story yet, but someone in Cape Cod,

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Speaker 1: a lobster diver, said he was swallowed by a whale.

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Speaker 1: I did see this, and I saw that his fellow

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Speaker 1: fisherman backed him up instead. I absolutely believe that he

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Speaker 1: was swallowed by a whale. What do you think, Katie,

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Speaker 1: so he said that he was completely inside the whale,

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Speaker 1: and that the whale shook its head a few times

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Speaker 1: before spitting him back out. So I'm not going to

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Speaker 1: call this man a liar, first of all, because he's

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Speaker 1: a lobster diver in Cape Cod, and I don't that's

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Speaker 1: not the demographic I want. Mad at me precisely. You

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Speaker 1: could be the next pet that they put chum. But

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Speaker 1: so I don't think he really is lying. I think that,

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Speaker 1: but I think he may have misinterpreted what actually happened

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Speaker 1: to him, or at least maybe someone who was interviewing

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Speaker 1: him put words in his mouth. I don't know, but

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Speaker 1: I don't think he was actually swallowed by the whale.

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Speaker 1: I think he was sort of swished around in a

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Speaker 1: whale's mouth like some listing. Yeah, I was gonna say

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Speaker 1: the way that he described it. The first image that

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Speaker 1: like like the whale was curious and it was like

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Speaker 1: could have some undertoned um. So it seems like he

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Speaker 1: spat him out. Yeah, because there's actually no way for

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Speaker 1: to mean food to them, right. They would see it

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Speaker 1: as like a floatation device maybe right right right exactly,

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Speaker 1: some some kind of strange curiosity to maybe taste but

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Speaker 1: And that's like the biggest it can really expand. And

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Speaker 1: would be a sperm whale who can and have swallowed

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Speaker 1: that's why people don't typically get swallowed by sperm whales.

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Speaker 1: So I mean, and I'm thinking about like Pinocchio, that

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Speaker 1: they used to be called sperma chetti whales because inside

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Speaker 1: They have an waxy, oily white substance called sperma chetti

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Speaker 1: is in fact a sort of waxy, oily substance that

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Speaker 1: by you. They don't want to get in there. No,

426
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 1: So that's that's that, there's really not truth to that.

427
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,399
Speaker 1: The other one is that spiders will lay eggs in

428
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:44,920
Speaker 1: your ears or your brain. A very popular scary stories

429
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 1: to tell him the dark story. Yeah, yeah, like a

430
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:53,040
Speaker 1: spider lays eggs in someone's skin or something. Is that

431
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 1: the one YEA thinks it and then it's just spiders. Yeah, yeah,

432
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 1: so spiders for actunately, all the spiders out there, they

433
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:05,879
Speaker 1: don't want to do that. They don't want to be

434
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 1: inside you. That's the last thing they want. Very rarely

435
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,640
Speaker 1: a spider might crawl in your ear. That is not

436
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,400
Speaker 1: because they want to lay eggs. They're not gonna lay

437
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 1: eggs in your brain. They're not gonna like drill a

438
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 1: hole into your skull. They just think your ear is

439
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:24,919
Speaker 1: like a little cozy spot. Uh. They mistake it for

440
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 1: like a little nook or cranny. They don't realize you're alive.

441
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:30,880
Speaker 1: If they did, they would freak out. It'd be like

442
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:33,879
Speaker 1: it'd be like if you were seeking refuge in a

443
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 1: cave and then you realize the cave is like the

444
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 1: ear of a gargantuan monster, you would freak out, you'd

445
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:45,159
Speaker 1: be scared. This doesn't happen very often, but when a

446
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:48,120
Speaker 1: spider crawls into someone's ear, it's a complete mistake. They're

447
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 1: not there to lay eggs. And if that ever happens,

448
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 1: or if any bug crawls in your ear, do not panic.

449
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:56,720
Speaker 1: Don't like try to dig it out with your fingers.

450
00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 1: Don't go in there with tweezers or like a cotton

451
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:03,440
Speaker 1: s bob, because that can either damage your ear or

452
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 1: you can like scare the the insect in it will

453
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,440
Speaker 1: actually crawl deeper, not because it's trying to like get

454
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,680
Speaker 1: into your brain because you're scaring it, because you're like right,

455
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 1: like if you're again, imagine you know, go take a

456
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,399
Speaker 1: trip down to imagination station. Imagine you're in a cave.

457
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,639
Speaker 1: It's it's like it's kind of cold outside and you

458
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:24,200
Speaker 1: find this cozy little cave go inside, and it's nice

459
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:27,160
Speaker 1: and warm. In fact, it's like weirdly warm. You're like, oh,

460
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:30,919
Speaker 1: this is nice and cozy, and then suddenly you like

461
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:36,119
Speaker 1: hear this low rumbling and then this giant appendage come

462
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 1: in to try to like grab You're gonna like run

463
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 1: deeper into the cave and then like the giant monster

464
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 1: and says, going to freak out even more. So what

465
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 1: you should do is just go to a doctor. What

466
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 1: you should do. Yeah, So so if you if you

467
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 1: think there's like a bug in your ear or something,

468
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 1: go to a doctor and they will be able to

469
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 1: remove it without like shoving anything probably in your ear.

470
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 1: Usually I think what doctors do is or they might

471
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 1: put something in your ear, but they're a doctor and

472
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 1: they're allowed to do that. So usually what they will

473
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 1: do is they'll actually flush it out with some sailing

474
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 1: and and the little spider or or whatever insect will

475
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 1: just come out surfing on a wave of sailing because

476
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 1: that way, that way just like kind of flushes it out,

477
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 1: and then it will also like want to get out,

478
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 1: like it'll swim to the surface of the sailing if

479
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 1: there's water in there. And it's just a much less

480
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 1: traumatic way to get a bug out of your ear

481
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 1: than to go after it with tweezers. But also this

482
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 1: is probably never going to happen to you. It's extremely rare.

483
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 1: I mean, this is why it's snoozeworthy. Like it's very

484
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 1: very bugs in your ear, So you don't need to

485
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 1: be afraid of spiders. They don't they don't lay eggs

486
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 1: under your skin. They don't lay eggs in your ears.

487
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 1: But before you breathe a sigh of relief, okaty, there

488
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 1: are insects that I'll do this and one of the

489
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 1: one of the creepiest ones in my opinion, are screw worms.

490
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 1: So you know this is the part where I warn

491
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 1: you this section is gonna get a little gross. Um.

492
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 1: You know, if you want to skip ahead, like if

493
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 1: you have tripophobia or fear of like insects, like parasites

494
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 1: human you know, kind of parasites, you can join back

495
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 1: in at part three. At we're actually in part three,

496
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 1: we're going to talk about a fish that allegedly swims

497
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 1: up people's your wreathros So if that also sounds to gross,

498
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 1: maybe the rest of this episode isn't for you, and

499
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 1: I'll see you next week. But if you want to

500
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 1: skip the screw worm section and you want to come

501
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:48,239
Speaker 1: back just for the penis fish one, um, you know,

502
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 1: join us back in at this time stamp take it away,

503
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 1: future Katie. All right, so for those of you, thanks,

504
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 1: thanks toture Katie, and now back to pass Katie. So

505
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 1: now we're gonna talk about screw worms and how horrifying

506
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 1: they really are. So these are New World screw worm flies,

507
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 1: which are found throughout the humid areas of the America's

508
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 1: So the adult version looks benign, just like a standard fly.

509
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 1: I in the show notes, I've included a picture of

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00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 1: the the adult in the larva, and absolutely no other

511
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 1: pictures of what happens with screw Thank you for that.

512
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Speaker 1: Thank you for If you're curious what they look like

513
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 1: but you don't want to see like body horror stuff,

514
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 1: you can look at the dock link below and there's

515
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 1: no body horror stuff, just the fly and just the maggot.

516
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 1: If you're curious to see what they look like, I

517
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:51,479
Speaker 1: recommend against googling. If you are grossed out by you know,

518
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 1: medical pictures and body horror stuff, you don't want to

519
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 1: see that. Again, the adult looks pretty innocuous, just like

520
00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 1: it's both look very Yeah normal, you got a normal larva. Yeah,

521
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 1: And they're called screw worms. Because the you can see

522
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 1: the larva is kind of like segmented, so it's like

523
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 1: kind of I guess screw like in a way. It's

524
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 1: sort of like tapered and it's got like it looks

525
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,959
Speaker 1: maybe like it has screw threads or something, but it's not.

526
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 1: It's not that alarming looking really, no, not at all.

527
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 1: And I saw that going around, I'd be like checks out.

528
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 1: That's you know, not start to worry about it getting

529
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 1: inside your body, but you probably should. So. Female screw

530
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 1: flies will lay their eggs in the wounds or bodily

531
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 1: openings of animals, including on occasion humans, So the eggs

532
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 1: only take about twenty four hours to hatch, and the

533
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 1: larva will start to feed on the flesh and fluids

534
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 1: of their host. So on at least one occasion they

535
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 1: have gotten into a human ear uh and on multiple

536
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 1: asians they have gotten inside human skin. Usually like if

537
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 1: you have a a open wound or something. Uh, it's

538
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:11,239
Speaker 1: the The flies don't like bite you and put it

539
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 1: inside you, but they um look for an opening like

540
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 1: a literal opening, for a literal opening. But this could

541
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 1: even be something like in newborn animals. Often like they

542
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 1: infect livestock and so a newborn calf or something, they

543
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 1: go for the the belly button because they're attracted to

544
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 1: the smell of blood, yes exactly, and so like for

545
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 1: they don't they won't typically go for like an adult's

546
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 1: belly button because that's healed over. But for a newborn calf,

547
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 1: it's like it still smells kind of bloody. They go

548
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 1: in there and it's it's gross. You don't want to

549
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 1: see it. This condition of a larva living inside human

550
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:57,479
Speaker 1: tissue is known medically as miasis, and it is gross

551
00:33:57,560 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 1: and bad and you don't want it to happen to

552
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 1: bad And my official medical opinion, it's gross and bad.

553
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:13,840
Speaker 1: Agree in my official non medical opinion, it's gross and bad. Yeah. So,

554
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 1: the way that screw worms differ from most maggots is

555
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:22,359
Speaker 1: that screw worms actually feed on live tissue, not just

556
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,799
Speaker 1: dead necrotic tissue. So I was gonna say, because like

557
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 1: you know, growing up in Michigan, every once in a while, yeah,

558
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:31,319
Speaker 1: you'd see like a road kill or something and then

559
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 1: end speaking profectperience your kid, you go over look at

560
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 1: the road kill. Yeah it's like covered in maggot stick

561
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 1: and you're like, hey, yeah, I'm learning I'm learning. Yeah,

562
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:51,319
Speaker 1: so maggot infested wounds, while disgusting, is not necessarily a

563
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 1: horrible problem. In fact, maggots can actually help with wound

564
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 1: healing sometimes, not that I recommend letting your wound get

565
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:02,360
Speaker 1: to the point where it's maggots without the dead flesh,

566
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:04,799
Speaker 1: but they just eat the dead flesh. And in fact,

567
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 1: there are like medical grade maggots that are like sterile

568
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:11,760
Speaker 1: that on occasion, very rarely that it's not the typical

569
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 1: use of them. But if you have some necrotic tissue

570
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 1: problems where it's hard to hard to it's called debriding

571
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 1: the necrotic tissue. So it's like when there's dead tissue

572
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,359
Speaker 1: and uh, you want to like get rid of the

573
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 1: dead tissue so it doesn't become infected. And so they

574
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 1: can actually use medical maggots to to get rid of

575
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 1: that dead tissue. So so, uh, maggots in general, while disgusting,

576
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 1: are not really that dangerous actually, but screw worms will

577
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:47,840
Speaker 1: eat healthy tissue and that's very very bad. So, uh,

578
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 1: screw worms will inside their host, which is typically not humans.

579
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 1: Humans are not their primary target. It's usually other mammals.

580
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,120
Speaker 1: It can even be smaller mammals if the if it's

581
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 1: a small enough mammal like like something like a rodent

582
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:07,479
Speaker 1: or like a baby livestock or something, they can even

583
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 1: feed on the live tissue of their host until their

584
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:17,840
Speaker 1: host dies. And very rarely humans can die of screw

585
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 1: worm infections. Usually that's it's because of not because they've

586
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 1: like eaten away at too much tissue, but it's because

587
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 1: of getting an infection and and the result from that.

588
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 1: Um before you panic, uh, the US eradicated screw worms

589
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 1: in two so so screw rooms are endemic to the

590
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 1: America's so uh mostly like like in sort of the

591
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 1: southern areas of the US and in South America again

592
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 1: so SO two. The US eradicated screw worms. They actually

593
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 1: use something called the sterile insect technique where sterile males,

594
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:03,799
Speaker 1: so males that can't reproduce, are released to flood the

595
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 1: dating pool and they steal mates from fertile males. So

596
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 1: it's basically like you release all these infertile males and

597
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 1: then they compete with fertile males, and so some of

598
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 1: these uh females will mate with the sterile males and

599
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 1: then blow their chance to have offspring and then the

600
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:29,280
Speaker 1: next generation there's less of them, and then you repeat

601
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 1: this over and over again until you can like basically

602
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:35,799
Speaker 1: decimate a population. There was actually an outbreak of screwworms

603
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 1: in Florida in so just because we got rid of

604
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,439
Speaker 1: them for the most part doesn't mean that they don't

605
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 1: sometimes come back. I think that, uh, it was a

606
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 1: pretty pretty good, uh good job for eradicating Yeah, yeah,

607
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:54,320
Speaker 1: which you know, I don't know enough about the uh

608
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 1: sort of you know, food pyramid of screw worms to

609
00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 1: know like what effect that would have or had on

610
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 1: the environment. Um, So it's like it's kind these things

611
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 1: are it's like you balance like the human need of

612
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 1: of these over the nature creating worms that can you know,

613
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 1: burrow into sea. And it was like a big problem

614
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,919
Speaker 1: with livestock to not just like humans, so big big

615
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:21,400
Speaker 1: problem with like our our food chain. But on the

616
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 1: other hand, it's it's sort of like I wouldn't say

617
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 1: I don't think that these insects should go extinct, because

618
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,360
Speaker 1: I think that would represent a big problem. But on

619
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 1: the other hand, I don't think they ever will. So

620
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 1: it's kind of like with It's kind of like with

621
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 1: mosquitoes when we control mosquito populations. It's like, well, mosquitoes

622
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 1: are actually very important for of to sustain a lot

623
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 1: of species that eat them as food. But I also

624
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 1: don't think we're ever gonna they're never gonna go extinct.

625
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 1: But but it's important to be careful because this like

626
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 1: sterile insect technique is very powerful, right, we definitely don't

627
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 1: want to overhear yeah, or do only use it on

628
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 1: a species that you know, Yeah, yeah, exactly for it. Yeah,

629
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 1: And so Guatemala, Belize and El Savador also araunddicated their

630
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 1: screw worm population. Mexico, Nicaragua, Costa Rica, Panama, and Jamaica

631
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 1: are still fighting to eliminate their populations. So it's not

632
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 1: as much of a problem as it used to be

633
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 1: in the past, but that doesn't mean there's zero chance

634
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:27,760
Speaker 1: of having an issue with them. There's actually what's really interesting,

635
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:31,280
Speaker 1: and there was a nineteen seventies seven short story called

636
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 1: The screw Fly Solution by Alice Sheldon. It was a

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Speaker 1: sci fi short story that described a horrific epidemic of

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Speaker 1: men murdering women and men starting these cults that were

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Speaker 1: like these religious cults saying like women are evil and

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Speaker 1: would morder them for uh these religious reasons, whereas other

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Speaker 1: men just like would do it randomly, and some men

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Speaker 1: who were like good people like isolated themselves to try

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Speaker 1: to prevent themselves from murdering women. But eventually, like only

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Speaker 1: a few women are left uh uh surviving on earth.

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Speaker 1: Those major spoilers for the short story if you want

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Speaker 1: to just read it instead of listening to me describe it.

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Speaker 1: One of the women discovers that the cause of this

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Speaker 1: murder epidemic is that an alien species is using a

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Speaker 1: version of the sterile insect technique on humans. So an

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Speaker 1: alien species is causing men's sex strives to turn into

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Speaker 1: murderous impulses because the aliens want to eradicate humans so

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Speaker 1: they can live on earth instead. So yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean I'm not against it. God, wait a minute,

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Speaker 1: how many eyes do you have, Maggie? Uh? Or normal?

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Speaker 1: It's It was also used in another inspiration for another story,

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Speaker 1: and Carmen Mola's eighteen detective novel not No Via Jitana

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Speaker 1: describes the screw worm being used as a very slow

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Speaker 1: murder weapon by the murderer inserting eggs into a victim's body. Yeah,

659
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Speaker 1: it's like a fun like you know it's a fun villain, yeah,

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Speaker 1: fun harder weapon. Yeah. Yeah, No. I love it's interesting

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Speaker 1: because I think that they have been a great inspiration

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Speaker 1: for for some some fun, fun stories, fun lighthearted stories,

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Speaker 1: you know, light romp about aliens killing off humans and

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Speaker 1: and you know, flesh eating larva being used as a

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00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 1: murder weapon. Real fun stuff. Yeah, checks out, It all

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Speaker 1: checks out. Well, when we get back, we're actually going

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Speaker 1: to talk about something a little less gruesome, simply a

668
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Speaker 1: fish that supposedly swims up your urethra that that kiddy stuff, yeah,

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Speaker 1: and eats penises. It's totally fine. Just you know what,

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Speaker 1: so this is Yeah, I'm not worried at all. So, Maggie,

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of people have heard of the

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Speaker 1: Candoru penis fish. Uh. It is a fish that allegedly

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Speaker 1: will swim up your peace stream and go inside of

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Speaker 1: your pea hole. I think it's typically the ideas that

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Speaker 1: it goes inside a penis. So if you have a

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Speaker 1: penis and you go to a river in the Amazon

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Speaker 1: where these fish live, allegedly, the story goes you pee,

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Speaker 1: You've got a nice I guess a nice strong stream

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Speaker 1: of urine. Yeah, it's gonna say it's warm, so itsumably

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Speaker 1: that's part of it, but you can you must. It's

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Speaker 1: got to be like a steady stream, I guess, can't

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Speaker 1: be like drunk peeing right where you just spreading every Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and then this little fish, apparently according to legend, will

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Speaker 1: swim up this peace stream, go right inside your pea

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Speaker 1: hole maybe you don't even notice it, I guess, and

686
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Speaker 1: then grow inside there and either eat your pianist or

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Speaker 1: just hang out in there. That part's unclear. This was

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Speaker 1: made popular by an episode of Gray's Anatomy noted very

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Speaker 1: accurate medical show. Very accurate? Is I actually only watched

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Speaker 1: that show to diagnose Yeah, not even friends yet. I'm

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Speaker 1: basically like a doctor now, and I think you have

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Speaker 1: a rare case of necrotizing fasciitis, like I have a headache. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think you should go to the hospital. Also, there's

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Speaker 1: any hot doctors hanging out? Yeah, it is kind of.

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Speaker 1: It does give you the sense that like every doctor

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Speaker 1: is going to be super super hot, where it's like

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Speaker 1: not to say doctors aren't hot. Most doctors are just

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Speaker 1: your regular you know, like all right, well let's take

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Speaker 1: a look inside of you, you know, and now hand

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Speaker 1: me the four steps. Wow, it's getting hot in here.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to unbutton my lab coat, like take

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Speaker 1: out the fish that's in your pan. So a little background.

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Speaker 1: A man comes in with like he's unable to urinate.

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Speaker 1: He's got some swelling and some pain and the whole,

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Speaker 1: you know, sort of penis area. And the doctors are

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Speaker 1: scratching their heads, like what's going on? And so they

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Speaker 1: had they could they ruled out some other common urinary problems,

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Speaker 1: and so they took an X ray and they're trying

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Speaker 1: to make sense of this X ray and uh, here

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Speaker 1: here it is. Here is there, very realistic doctor discussion.

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Speaker 1: The penis fish. Sorry you find it back a little longer.

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00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 1: Amazing penis fish. All right, I'm gonna wind it back

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Speaker 1: just a little further. Mm. Looks like some kind of

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Speaker 1: foreign check that almost looks like a skeleton. It's skeleton like,

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Speaker 1: definitely skeleton bobs. Can't be it could be. It looks

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Speaker 1: like a teeny tiny cash fish. Close. See there those

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Speaker 1: are spines. This is a candaroo fish. The penis fish.

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Speaker 1: This guy has the penis fish in his his The

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Speaker 1: penist fish. This guy has the penis fish. It is

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Speaker 1: penis like the penis. He's got the penis fish. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: well record scratch. I bet you're wondering how I got here.

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Speaker 1: That's me. She's zooming on the extra of the fish.

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Speaker 1: It's like, you see that, that's me. I'm the kangaroo.

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Speaker 1: I wonder how I got here? Well it all started

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Speaker 1: when Yeah, so it's this is this real? Uh? It's

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Speaker 1: this is a real fish. What's going on? What are

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Speaker 1: these fake doctors talking about? Well, so the candaroo is

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Speaker 1: a very real fish, but the rumors of its affinity

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Speaker 1: for the human penis maybe slightly overstated or maybe greatly overstated.

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Speaker 1: It's a bit of a puzzle. So the candaroo is

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Speaker 1: a small then catfish found in freshwater rivers of the Amazon.

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Speaker 1: It's also called a toothpick fish because they're so slender.

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Speaker 1: So they can grow up as adults to be up

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Speaker 1: to seven inches or two point five centimeters long, but

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Speaker 1: younger ones can be very small and thin, so maybe

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Speaker 1: just a bit thicker than a toothpick. So the idea

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Speaker 1: is that while they're little, they could like get up

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Speaker 1: inside of your urethra if you're constantly yeah, if you well,

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Speaker 1: we'll talk about that. Okay, So what do we absolutely

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Speaker 1: know about candaroos. They are blood suckers. They will enter

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Speaker 1: the gill cavities of fish and suck on the fish

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Speaker 1: is blood. So to anchor themselves, they will actually erect

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Speaker 1: spines that they have on their own gills to stick

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Speaker 1: inside the gills of their victims so they can go

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Speaker 1: in there and suck on blood. And it's actually kind

746
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Speaker 1: of weird because they can sort of like a leech

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Speaker 1: like it becomes sort of engorged with bloods start off

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Speaker 1: really thin and then they get like this full belly

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Speaker 1: of blood. It's it's pretty weird, but you know, onto

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Speaker 1: the legend, it's that they will swim up your i guess,

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Speaker 1: very healthy peace stream and into your urethra if you

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Speaker 1: have a penis. Now, this legend has been around for centuries. Um.

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Speaker 1: In the nineteen or in the eighteen hundreds, biologist CFP.

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Speaker 1: Von Martius, who was, I guess a German biologist studying

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Speaker 1: stuff in the Amazon, he was told about a fish

756
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Speaker 1: that was attracted to the smell of urine and may

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00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 1: swim up your p hole. Now, the problem with this

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Speaker 1: legend is that there's no evidence that kangaroos are attracted

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Speaker 1: at all to urine. And they seem to hunt by sight,

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Speaker 1: not by smell, so that doesn't really check out. In

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Speaker 1: eighteen fifty five, another biologist was regaled with tales of

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Speaker 1: a fish that would swim up peastree um. But the

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Speaker 1: explanation of the fish being able to traverse the stream

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Speaker 1: of urine actually defies the laws of physics. That's not possible.

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Speaker 1: That's not possible. It would need a type of propulsion.

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Speaker 1: The fluid dynamics of it don't make sense. Yeah, that no,

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00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 1: none of the It's this idea that like a salmon

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Speaker 1: could you know, like like salmon's would like jump up

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Speaker 1: a waterfall, but somehow you could do that like in

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00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 1: a stream of p and it would just like swim up.

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Speaker 1: It actually impossible from a fluid dynamic and fish physics perspective.

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Speaker 1: It's thought that maybe this aspect of the legend comes

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Speaker 1: from fish gathering at the site where the pea enters

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00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:49,920
Speaker 1: the water, because like if you're peeing in the water,

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Speaker 1: it creates this little disturbance on the surface of the

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Speaker 1: water and fish may swim swim up to it, not

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00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:58,800
Speaker 1: because they like the smell of pea like their little freaks,

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00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:01,960
Speaker 1: or that they to swim up your peace stream magically

779
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 1: using their magic fluid dynamics stuff. It's actually just because

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Speaker 1: any kind of small disturbance on the surface of the

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00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:12,400
Speaker 1: water may attract some fish because they're like, oh, you know,

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00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:14,920
Speaker 1: is this like a fly or something that got stuck

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00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 1: on the surface of the water. What is it? They're curious.

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Speaker 1: They think maybe it's food, Maybe it's something of interest

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Speaker 1: to them. Could a kangaroo ever swim inside of of

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Speaker 1: your urethra? I don't think it could do it by

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00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:33,320
Speaker 1: traveling up a peace string if you're like in the water,

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Speaker 1: could it potentially get inside like a peniss p hole. Maybe,

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Speaker 1: But it's not certain whether we really have any documented

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Speaker 1: evidence of this. We're going to talk about the only

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00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:50,719
Speaker 1: case that maybe the evidence of that in a little bit.

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00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:54,399
Speaker 1: But one thing we do know is that despite this

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00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:57,799
Speaker 1: being sort of pitched as something only people with penises

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Speaker 1: have to worry about, if you've got to age Nina,

795
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 1: you're actually much more likely to have to tingle with

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00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:05,719
Speaker 1: the Canada. Uh. It's not that it's gonna go up

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00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 1: your urethra, because you know, female anatomy, the vagina is

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00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 1: not the eure throat. Urethra is separated from the vagina.

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Speaker 1: The entrance of the vagina just goes up into the

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Speaker 1: vaginal cavity, and then there's the cervix that box that

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00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:26,800
Speaker 1: from the uterus. So there are a few documented cases

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00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:31,440
Speaker 1: in the late eighteen hundreds of the candaroo entering the vagina.

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00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 1: But uh, it was easily extracted, didn't really harm the

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00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 1: person at all. And that's a bit easier to accomplish

805
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:46,560
Speaker 1: than going up a narrow urethra. Uh a little more room,

806
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:52,440
Speaker 1: right exactly. Uh. And again this was probably a mistake.

807
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:55,880
Speaker 1: The candaroo was thinking that it was going in the

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00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:59,120
Speaker 1: gills of a fish that it normally prays on, but

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00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 1: it's it's, you know, a vagina. Oops, yeah it So

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Speaker 1: in seven the only documented case of a candaroo entering

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Speaker 1: a penis occurred in Brazil. The twenty three year old

812
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Speaker 1: man claimed that candaroo jumped from the river into his

813
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 1: penis as he was urinating. This incident is contentious for

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00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 1: a number of reasons, which were thoroughly examined by American

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Speaker 1: marine biologists Steven Spotty, who investigated and wrote a book

816
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 1: in two thousand two called Kandaroo Life and Legend of

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00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:44,279
Speaker 1: the blood Sucking Catfishes. So he looked at this story

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00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 1: and examined some of the problems with how the incident

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00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:51,279
Speaker 1: was presented. He didn't say like, oh, this is a

820
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:54,160
Speaker 1: total lie or anything. He just said, these things, these

821
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:58,440
Speaker 1: aspects of the story don't quite make sense. So either

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00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:03,280
Speaker 1: there's some mistakes in like how this this uh um

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00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:08,880
Speaker 1: was recorded, or some misunderstandings, or maybe some aspects of

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00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 1: it were made up. You know, people have been known

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00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 1: to lie about things to be humanist, to air describing

826
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Speaker 1: what to h yes, to be humanists to air on

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Speaker 1: what went up your penis hull uh So the victim

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Speaker 1: claimed that the candaroo leapt out of the water via

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00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:33,799
Speaker 1: his peace stream into his urethra. So this is the

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00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:37,920
Speaker 1: typical story in the folk tale. But again, like we

831
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:42,879
Speaker 1: described earlier, this version has been thoroughly disproved just by

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00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 1: p physics. It can't really happen. Um. More likely way

833
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:51,880
Speaker 1: of this happening would be if you are waist deep

834
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:55,400
Speaker 1: in your your penis is actually in the water, then

835
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:58,879
Speaker 1: perhaps like it could go up inside um. It would

836
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:02,760
Speaker 1: have to be very small a juvenile, but you know, maybe,

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00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:07,600
Speaker 1: but this isn't what he described, so either he was

838
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:11,800
Speaker 1: just mistakenly thought that's when it went up, Like maybe

839
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:14,560
Speaker 1: it got in earlier and he didn't realize it got

840
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:17,640
Speaker 1: in when he was like submerged, and he just assumed

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00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:19,879
Speaker 1: this is how it happened, or he was like not

842
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:22,319
Speaker 1: telling the truth. Let's give him the benefit of the

843
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:25,120
Speaker 1: doubt and just say, like he this is what he

844
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:28,239
Speaker 1: figured happened, but it's that's not what really happened. Like

845
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:31,719
Speaker 1: it must have happened when it like went up when

846
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:35,280
Speaker 1: he was like submerged in water. So um, not necessarily lying,

847
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:37,960
Speaker 1: but there's no way for it to actually go into

848
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:40,359
Speaker 1: the peace dream, so he would be mistaken about that.

849
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:43,920
Speaker 1: Another weird thing is that the fish specimen from the

850
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 1: alleged incident was preserved, but its head was too big

851
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:54,600
Speaker 1: to fit inside a urethra um. So the timeline is

852
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:58,360
Speaker 1: off because he was saying he had this happen right after,

853
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:02,440
Speaker 1: like like he went to the actor pretty quickly after

854
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:05,680
Speaker 1: this incident, So in order for the fish to get inside,

855
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:09,439
Speaker 1: it would require way more force than the fish would

856
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 1: be capable of doing. Again, like, the only way for

857
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:16,239
Speaker 1: this to happen without without it just being completely made

858
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:19,719
Speaker 1: up would be this person mistakenly thought this was when

859
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:22,440
Speaker 1: he was infected with it, but when in fact, a

860
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:26,719
Speaker 1: lot earlier, a small like a baby one went up

861
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:32,120
Speaker 1: in and then like grew inside of him somehow worse worse,

862
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:36,239
Speaker 1: which is just conjecture because I'm not sure that's possible.

863
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:39,960
Speaker 1: But I'm just again, I'm trying. I'm trying to present

864
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:42,839
Speaker 1: the version of events in which like, it's not just

865
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:48,200
Speaker 1: like a big lie. It's just a misunderstanding, which often

866
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:51,240
Speaker 1: happens when it comes to you know, when a penis

867
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 1: or a fish goes in your penis. The doctor who

868
00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 1: documented the case claimed that the candaroo is attracted to urine,

869
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:03,000
Speaker 1: which again that's a myth that has long been debunked.

870
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:06,759
Speaker 1: So already this doctor has made a mistake in you know,

871
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:11,240
Speaker 1: his own understanding of the situation. The same doctor claimed

872
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:14,719
Speaker 1: that the candaroo had chewed its way into the victims scrotum,

873
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:17,840
Speaker 1: but a candaroo does not have the jaw force to

874
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:20,239
Speaker 1: do such a thing. So again there's a couple of

875
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:23,759
Speaker 1: fishy things. No pun intended with what the doctor is

876
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:28,720
Speaker 1: claiming here, So Dr Penish fish again. Oh, I forgot

877
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:32,200
Speaker 1: to mention the doctor and the Gray's Anatomy episode that

878
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 1: the urologist who was examining this was called doctor Fisher. Yo. No, wow,

879
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:44,800
Speaker 1: that's pretty awesome actually, and your name is May Fish.

880
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:48,319
Speaker 1: So obviously you have to become a neurologist and specialized

881
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:50,520
Speaker 1: in the candaroo fish because that's how it works, and

882
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:53,400
Speaker 1: that's how it works. And actually it's pretty exciting to

883
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:57,840
Speaker 1: find my calling right now this video. Essay, you have

884
00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:00,959
Speaker 1: a great calling on YouTube, But like, was that really

885
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:04,560
Speaker 1: your true calling or was it all just set up

886
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:10,160
Speaker 1: for me to discover this? Yeah, like a penis fish fish,

887
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:19,920
Speaker 1: its penis, the push its penis fantastic. In this like

888
00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 1: quote unquote real life incident, the doctor again made another

889
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 1: spurious claim, saying that he had to clip the fish's

890
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:32,880
Speaker 1: spines to extract it. But all those spines were intact

891
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:37,280
Speaker 1: on the preserved specimens, so that's not lining up either.

892
00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:42,240
Speaker 1: So there was a sister scopy video. So assist scope

893
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:45,080
Speaker 1: is a small camera in light that goes into tight

894
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:48,800
Speaker 1: body spaces for surgeries or exams, and there is a

895
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:52,400
Speaker 1: video of it. But in this video, it shows the

896
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:56,200
Speaker 1: fish carcass being pulled out by forceps, which the author

897
00:57:56,240 --> 00:58:01,000
Speaker 1: of this book contends would be impossible given the deserved specimens.

898
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:03,720
Speaker 1: Spikes being intact because they would like kind of snag

899
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:07,920
Speaker 1: on something. So maybe the specimen is not the actual

900
00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:12,040
Speaker 1: one or something something is going on, but this video

901
00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 1: does exist, so it's like, well, what what is like

902
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:18,520
Speaker 1: did they like fake this video to go along with

903
00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:22,120
Speaker 1: all this stuff or are there only certain aspects of

904
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:25,240
Speaker 1: the story that are that are not quite being told accurately.

905
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:30,040
Speaker 1: So I don't know if this is conclusively disproving the

906
00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:33,600
Speaker 1: candaroos story because I'm not really sure why both the

907
00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:37,160
Speaker 1: doctor and patient would make everything up, like just for

908
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:40,320
Speaker 1: attention or something, and they'd have to be working together

909
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:43,160
Speaker 1: to make it all up. Uh, So I'm not sure

910
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:46,520
Speaker 1: it's like a hundred person hoax. It could be, but

911
00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:52,360
Speaker 1: my my guests would be it's like it's only partially

912
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:56,160
Speaker 1: true and then there's you know, some exaggeration going on.

913
00:58:57,360 --> 00:59:01,080
Speaker 1: I think this maybe, I mean it could it could

914
00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:03,640
Speaker 1: be a hoax though, because again, this is a this

915
00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:06,240
Speaker 1: is a folk tale that has long been you know,

916
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:10,360
Speaker 1: so it's got this sort of popularity. But sometimes folk

917
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:13,040
Speaker 1: tales have a grain of truth in it, So there

918
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:16,280
Speaker 1: could be uh, you know, this could have an origin

919
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:20,400
Speaker 1: not just incomplete like like, so you could have some

920
00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:23,000
Speaker 1: truth to it. Right, So if the candoroo goes up,

921
00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:26,280
Speaker 1: you know, if you're like submerged in the water, and

922
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:28,280
Speaker 1: then it enters that way, and then it's like it

923
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:30,160
Speaker 1: goes in when it's really small and then it just

924
00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:33,120
Speaker 1: gets stuck and then gets bigger or something later on.

925
00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:37,200
Speaker 1: Maybe that's what happens, and then these other aspects of

926
00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:40,440
Speaker 1: the myth are are made up just because that's people

927
00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 1: assume this is what happens that you like, uh, that

928
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:46,520
Speaker 1: that it swims up your peace stream or something. But

929
00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:48,920
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know, because like I don't even like,

930
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:52,320
Speaker 1: how would if something is like growing inside, like a

931
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:54,440
Speaker 1: little fish is growing inside, like it seems like that

932
00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:58,880
Speaker 1: would still obstruct your your urinary flow. So it seems

933
00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:02,160
Speaker 1: like you'd have problems for a while. I just don't know.

934
01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:07,200
Speaker 1: I I am very skeptical, though, I'm skeptical, right, like

935
01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:11,440
Speaker 1: a freak animal freak accidents happen, But yeah, this seems like,

936
01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:15,560
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, it'd be hard for that little fish. Yeah,

937
01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:19,560
Speaker 1: but it's certainly it's not a fish that hunts down

938
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:22,680
Speaker 1: human penises and goes inside me at the penis. That

939
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:25,520
Speaker 1: part is absolutely not true. If it does happen, it's

940
01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:31,720
Speaker 1: an accident. But there is such a thing as parasitic castration.

941
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:37,400
Speaker 1: It's just not something that happens to humans, thank god, Oh,

942
01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:45,640
Speaker 1: thank goodness. If you're a crab or another type of animal,

943
01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:49,040
Speaker 1: this may happen, uh, and we'll probably it, like we've

944
01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:52,880
Speaker 1: talked about on the show Carsonization, like the universe trends

945
01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:55,840
Speaker 1: towards crabs. Maybe one day we'll evolve into crabs and

946
01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:59,560
Speaker 1: we're going to have to worry about the crab go

947
01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:05,760
Speaker 1: nad eating parasite, the Seculina carcini. So the Seculina carsony

948
01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:09,040
Speaker 1: is a parasitic barnacle. I know, you wouldn't think like

949
01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:12,439
Speaker 1: barnacles could be parasites. They seem like harmless little things

950
01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:16,120
Speaker 1: that like sit on a whale and stuff. But there

951
01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:20,080
Speaker 1: there are types of barnacles because like the barnacle itself, uh,

952
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:22,800
Speaker 1: it's not always just this like sort of hard shell

953
01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:26,000
Speaker 1: that it forms. It is like a free swimming, little

954
01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:29,600
Speaker 1: like sort of worm like thing. And so this one,

955
01:01:29,720 --> 01:01:35,800
Speaker 1: the the Seculina carcini, can take over a crabs and

956
01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:41,920
Speaker 1: testines stomach and nervous system near it's underbelly and feed

957
01:01:42,040 --> 01:01:46,200
Speaker 1: on nutrients from the crab and what this does is,

958
01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:50,640
Speaker 1: even though it doesn't like only specifically eat its gonads,

959
01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:54,520
Speaker 1: by depriving like siphoning off all these nutrients, the gonads

960
01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:59,920
Speaker 1: fail to fully develop uh inside of these poor crabs,

961
01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:02,720
Speaker 1: So males will actually grew up to look a bit

962
01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:07,440
Speaker 1: more like females because they don't have the male hormones

963
01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:10,760
Speaker 1: that would be produced in their their gone outs, and

964
01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:15,480
Speaker 1: females will actually like they can also be infected. They

965
01:02:15,560 --> 01:02:18,880
Speaker 1: just end up being a little more narrow than other

966
01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:23,600
Speaker 1: females because of the nutrient depletion. But it's really interesting

967
01:02:23,640 --> 01:02:26,840
Speaker 1: when they infect males because it changes their behavior in

968
01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:31,560
Speaker 1: a very strange way. So that's wild. Somehow, this this

969
01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:36,160
Speaker 1: parasitic barnacle causes the crab to help raise the brood

970
01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:40,400
Speaker 1: of these little parasitic barnacles, grooming them like it's their

971
01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:43,200
Speaker 1: own brood of eggs, which is strange because they are

972
01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:46,800
Speaker 1: a male and they would not naturally ever have eggs,

973
01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:51,520
Speaker 1: so clearly there's some kind of like male like these

974
01:02:51,560 --> 01:02:55,640
Speaker 1: male crabs still have the capacity to have these like

975
01:02:56,000 --> 01:03:00,960
Speaker 1: female crab instincts. It's very interesting. So they'll groom them

976
01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:03,840
Speaker 1: like they're their own brood sec and then release them

977
01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:07,000
Speaker 1: like that, Like because crabs do this thing when they're

978
01:03:07,040 --> 01:03:09,200
Speaker 1: ready to release eggs where they kind of like go

979
01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:11,320
Speaker 1: up in the in the waves and kind of like

980
01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:14,400
Speaker 1: bob and shake and shimmy to get the eggs off

981
01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:16,920
Speaker 1: of their abdomen and they kind of like usher them

982
01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:20,040
Speaker 1: on um for their own eggs. But they do this

983
01:03:20,560 --> 01:03:23,760
Speaker 1: the males will do this for the parasitic barnacle all

984
01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:27,440
Speaker 1: the time, which is it's like very strange, very strange.

985
01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:35,160
Speaker 1: Hormones are fascinating and wild. Yeah, so it isn't kind

986
01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:40,200
Speaker 1: of heartwarmingly messed up situation, Yeah, it is. It is.

987
01:03:41,640 --> 01:03:43,760
Speaker 1: You know, it's like kind of cute in a way, like, well,

988
01:03:43,800 --> 01:03:45,800
Speaker 1: I guess I'm a mommy, you know, and then they

989
01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:51,880
Speaker 1: do their thing. I'm a zombie mommy. Yeah, zombie zombie mommies. Yeah,

990
01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:56,240
Speaker 1: very very strange, very interesting. But I'll probably talk about

991
01:03:56,240 --> 01:04:00,960
Speaker 1: more cases of parasitic castration on another episode, but I

992
01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:03,360
Speaker 1: think I think we only need to do one example

993
01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:07,480
Speaker 1: of the prop That is that that's probably the wildest

994
01:04:07,480 --> 01:04:11,080
Speaker 1: animal fact I've heard in a while. Yeah. Yeah, it's

995
01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:17,760
Speaker 1: sites are They're fascinating because when they modify their hosts

996
01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:21,600
Speaker 1: behavior in such a strange way. It's like with screw flies,

997
01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:24,920
Speaker 1: like they are a parasite, but they they're just gross

998
01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:29,160
Speaker 1: and bad and they hurt you. It's like, okay, I

999
01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:32,600
Speaker 1: get it, but when you have these very devious parasites,

1000
01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:41,240
Speaker 1: they are like you're the mom Now it's like parasites, alright. Yeah, yeah,

1001
01:04:41,320 --> 01:04:46,439
Speaker 1: it's so strange, so so very strange and interesting. But yeah,

1002
01:04:46,520 --> 01:04:49,800
Speaker 1: we don't really need to fear the kandaroo. We don't

1003
01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:53,240
Speaker 1: even need to fear these parasitic barnacles until the inevitable

1004
01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:56,080
Speaker 1: day that we evolve into crabs. So yeah, I mean

1005
01:04:56,320 --> 01:05:00,600
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to that day. Yeah, you know what, scuttling,

1006
01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:03,240
Speaker 1: I feel like scuttling is underrated and I want to

1007
01:05:03,240 --> 01:05:06,600
Speaker 1: do more of it. I want to scuttle, scuttle about

1008
01:05:06,840 --> 01:05:11,160
Speaker 1: Scuttling is fun. You ever scuttled? I ever got kind

1009
01:05:11,160 --> 01:05:14,040
Speaker 1: a good scuttling? I skip, which I guess is like

1010
01:05:14,080 --> 01:05:17,439
Speaker 1: the human equivalent to a scuttle. Um. I've also rolling

1011
01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:20,520
Speaker 1: down hills, which also feels kind of like yeah, yeah,

1012
01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:23,680
Speaker 1: and I scuttle. Yeah, you know, when I was actually

1013
01:05:23,720 --> 01:05:27,600
Speaker 1: a kid, um, I learned about this is kind of

1014
01:05:27,640 --> 01:05:30,520
Speaker 1: a tangent, but like I learned about how lemurs because

1015
01:05:30,520 --> 01:05:32,320
Speaker 1: they kind of like hop side to side. They do

1016
01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:35,760
Speaker 1: this like fashhat kind of thing, and it looked really fun.

1017
01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:37,600
Speaker 1: So I started doing it, and then I found it's

1018
01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:40,120
Speaker 1: actually a really easy way to get around. So, you know,

1019
01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:43,880
Speaker 1: do this little lemur sacheting through the house. And my

1020
01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:45,920
Speaker 1: parents just thought I was just like dancing around. I

1021
01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:48,520
Speaker 1: was like, no, this is actually very efficient method of locomotion.

1022
01:05:48,920 --> 01:05:51,680
Speaker 1: I'm walking better than other humans. Lemurs are onto something,

1023
01:05:51,680 --> 01:05:58,120
Speaker 1: you guys. Yeah, uh yeah. So you know, scuttling it's

1024
01:05:58,120 --> 01:06:00,280
Speaker 1: pretty good as long as you don't get in acted

1025
01:06:00,280 --> 01:06:04,440
Speaker 1: by a barnacle parasite. That's gonna gonna make your nads

1026
01:06:04,760 --> 01:06:09,439
Speaker 1: kind of not work. That's the downside. That's a little

1027
01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:12,520
Speaker 1: bit of a downpap. Well, you know, I think we've

1028
01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:17,640
Speaker 1: busted some some folk tales and unbusted some not yet

1029
01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:21,320
Speaker 1: folk tales, but you know that probably should be some

1030
01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:24,120
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Yeah, like you said like this,

1031
01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:26,520
Speaker 1: you know, I feel like you went through a lot

1032
01:06:26,520 --> 01:06:28,880
Speaker 1: of things that I had heard that I should be

1033
01:06:28,920 --> 01:06:32,400
Speaker 1: afraid of. Um. Yeah, I think we have all correctly

1034
01:06:32,440 --> 01:06:37,280
Speaker 1: aligned ourselves, um to be afraid of uh these little

1035
01:06:37,360 --> 01:06:42,840
Speaker 1: zombie crap. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. It's like it's a

1036
01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:46,880
Speaker 1: it's I like to reassure and then unassure. You know

1037
01:06:46,880 --> 01:06:49,520
Speaker 1: what I mean. Don't get too comfortable. Now that I've

1038
01:06:49,560 --> 01:06:53,959
Speaker 1: reassured you this is okay. Now here's here's the here's

1039
01:06:53,960 --> 01:06:58,200
Speaker 1: a little spice, here's the alternative that you're the milk,

1040
01:06:58,320 --> 01:07:01,400
Speaker 1: and now here's the spice. Yeah yet, Well, thank you

1041
01:07:01,480 --> 01:07:04,840
Speaker 1: so much for being on today and for patiently listening

1042
01:07:04,840 --> 01:07:07,919
Speaker 1: through some of the more horrifying things we talked about. Hey,

1043
01:07:07,960 --> 01:07:11,320
Speaker 1: where can people find you on the internet? Oh? Yeah,

1044
01:07:11,400 --> 01:07:14,600
Speaker 1: if people want to find me, uh, you can look

1045
01:07:14,680 --> 01:07:18,040
Speaker 1: me up on Twitter and YouTube just at my name

1046
01:07:18,200 --> 01:07:20,800
Speaker 1: that you may fish m a E. That's how he

1047
01:07:20,840 --> 01:07:26,560
Speaker 1: spent my room, not the month. Um. Yeah. On Twitter,

1048
01:07:26,600 --> 01:07:30,080
Speaker 1: I'm usually just making jokes. Then on YouTube I do

1049
01:07:30,200 --> 01:07:34,120
Speaker 1: some fun film analysis, So check it out if that's

1050
01:07:34,160 --> 01:07:38,680
Speaker 1: your thing. Yes, do you check that out? She's got

1051
01:07:38,680 --> 01:07:43,120
Speaker 1: a very good video on on ca. Yeah. If you're

1052
01:07:43,120 --> 01:07:45,600
Speaker 1: into animals, that one might be the one hr you

1053
01:07:47,720 --> 01:07:50,560
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, And you can find the show on the

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