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Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is

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Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or

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Speaker 1: learn the stuff they don't want you to know. A

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Speaker 1: production of I Heart Grading. Hello, welcome back to the show.

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Speaker 1: My name is Matt, my name is Nol. They called

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Speaker 1: me Ben. We're joined as always with our super producer

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Speaker 1: Alexis code named Doc Holiday Jackson. Most importantly, you are you,

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Speaker 1: You are here, and that makes this the stuff they

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Speaker 1: don't want you to know. It is Thursday. We are

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Speaker 1: coming to you amid a crazy, crazy day. Our thoughts

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Speaker 1: are with our friends, family, and fellow conspiracy realists out

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Speaker 1: in Brooklyn and New York City. Please stay safe, folks

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Speaker 1: will will stay tuned like the rest of the world

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Speaker 1: for updates as they come. And also, as mentioned by

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Speaker 1: a couple of listeners already, today marks the passing of

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Speaker 1: comedy legend Gilbert Godfried. He is on record as having

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Speaker 1: one of the best versions of the Aristocrats and uh

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Speaker 1: he was a very very nice guy. Wow. That is

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Speaker 1: literally news to me, as the first time I've heard that.

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Speaker 1: getting here as well. I will also always remember him

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Speaker 1: for his amazing, uh kind of daytime television eight hundred

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Speaker 1: to start off by saying thanks to Dennis over on

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Speaker 1: Here's where He Gets Crazy. Dennis said, message to the

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Speaker 1: guys and super producers, Gilbert Godfried has passed away. I

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Speaker 1: the week. You guys usually do well. This is listener mail.

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Speaker 1: But you know, at this point the show is kind

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Speaker 1: I know that's a little bit of a downer to

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Speaker 1: We do have some non down stuff today from your

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Speaker 1: fellow conspiracy realists. We're gonna hear a little bit about

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Speaker 1: one follow up on the Body Broker episode and want

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Speaker 1: to thank everybody reached out for that, and then we're

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Speaker 1: directly related to the subject of email, but adjacent. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And this email comes from Colonel Buffington. Um. And Colonel

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Speaker 1: a message from the Jolly Green Giant. The guys. A

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Speaker 1: always sounded to me like something that was just okay, yeah, whatever,

428
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,720
Speaker 1: that's a that's a theory. Fluoride is going to calcify

429
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,000
Speaker 1: you're the inside of your brain and some little gland

430
00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:43,640
Speaker 1: you get in there. Well, it is actually true in

431
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:45,639
Speaker 1: in a lot of ways, but it's also true for

432
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:48,480
Speaker 1: most parts of your body. Calcification is a thing that

433
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:52,160
Speaker 1: can occur. It's not directly related to fluoride, although fluoride

434
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,400
Speaker 1: can play a hand in it. Yeah, if you take

435
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:58,000
Speaker 1: a bunch of fluoride. Yeah, if you're super dosing fluoride,

436
00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:01,399
Speaker 1: it could be an issue. But generally calcification comes with age.

437
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:03,359
Speaker 1: That's what you need to know, because it has to

438
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:07,160
Speaker 1: do with usage, uh, specifically parts of the brain, because

439
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 1: there's so much blood that flows through there constantly. All

440
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,920
Speaker 1: the little things like calcium, like other minerals and and

441
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:17,520
Speaker 1: stuff that's in your blood gets deposited in small amounts

442
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,400
Speaker 1: at different times in your body, especially in your brain

443
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 1: and in your pineal gland. So it is a thing

444
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,240
Speaker 1: that occurs, isn't The pineal gland, the one that was

445
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 1: in like fear loathing in Las Vegas, is like a

446
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:29,639
Speaker 1: pure pineal gland, like of a human being. And if

447
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 1: you do you eat it, it'll like make you trip

448
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:37,399
Speaker 1: harder than you've ever tripped in your life. Maybe a sorry, sorry,

449
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,280
Speaker 1: but yeah, Okay, but but is what about the pineal gland.

450
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:43,960
Speaker 1: Does it contain any hormones that that are released that

451
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:47,000
Speaker 1: would cause some sort of hallucinatory effects there? Am I

452
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:51,200
Speaker 1: just mixing my glands? It makes melotonin which people take

453
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:54,800
Speaker 1: is a sleep supplements like stuff. Yep, yep, yeah, yeah.

454
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:58,840
Speaker 1: Basically monitors when when it's time for you to sleep. Uh,

455
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 1: it's kind of awesome. It's a little alarmed. So how

456
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:04,680
Speaker 1: much light is there, what what time of year is it? Essentially,

457
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 1: and it can tell by the amount of light that

458
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 1: is coming into your eyes. Generally, it relates to one

459
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 1: of the reasons that people always say, turn off your

460
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 1: phone or you know, put your phone in night mode

461
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:19,359
Speaker 1: or whatever. Make the lights warm and dark or as

462
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 1: dim as you can possibly get them as you're trying

463
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 1: to go to sleep, because in a strange way, you guys,

464
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:27,480
Speaker 1: I think it mimics like maybe the candle light or

465
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 1: camp fire or that low amber light that we used

466
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:35,440
Speaker 1: to get humans used to get when it was nighttime.

467
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 1: I'm interested to know how much of that is actually

468
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 1: an evolutionary function. Okay, jumping back to what you said

469
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 1: at the very beginning of this, right after we heard

470
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:48,399
Speaker 1: the message ben REM sleep and how marijuana kind of

471
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 1: tamps down on that. I didn't know this was a thing.

472
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:55,440
Speaker 1: I had no idea. REM sleep within the sleep cycles

473
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:59,399
Speaker 1: one cycle LASS about ninety minutes. REM rapid eye movement

474
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Speaker 1: sleep is where dreams occur, and you generally don't remember

475
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 1: anything that occurs in REM sleep unless you wake up

476
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:09,159
Speaker 1: in that cycle, within the REM cycle or like right

477
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,200
Speaker 1: at the end of it, right as it's kind of

478
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:13,959
Speaker 1: exiting out. That's when you'll wake up and go, oh

479
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 1: my gosh, I remember everything that just occurred. That was

480
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 1: a crazy dream. Uh, And that's you know, when the

481
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,879
Speaker 1: dream journals are super handy. It's weird to me to

482
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 1: think that this drug that is so ubiquitous right now

483
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 1: is preventing many of us from having those intense dreams

484
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,440
Speaker 1: because you know, if you look at dream theory, one

485
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 1: of the things that they do is help us, again

486
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:41,159
Speaker 1: from an evolutionary perspective and psychologically not work through and

487
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 1: process things that we've experienced in the day. But it's

488
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:46,680
Speaker 1: like the brain is like reorging in a way, like

489
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 1: playing back stuff that's occurred, remembering things, putting things away. Um,

490
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 1: it's weird to think that this drug that is so

491
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 1: helpful to so many people, is somehow preventing that which

492
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 1: feels like a long term need that each human has

493
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:03,640
Speaker 1: to go through those rem cycles and to process things

494
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,679
Speaker 1: in their sleep effectively. I'm just wondering what I'm wondering

495
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:10,679
Speaker 1: what effect that's having on maybe America or the globe

496
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 1: or just you know, younger people, people who are smoking

497
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:16,400
Speaker 1: more and more marijuana on a regular basis. Well, it's

498
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 1: interesting too, because honestly, uh j G G if I

499
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 1: could call you that, Honestly, there's not much science about this.

500
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,919
Speaker 1: And if you check out articles like the cut wire

501
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,479
Speaker 1: dreams go crazy when you stop smoking weed shout out

502
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 1: to Jesse Single, uh single, you'll find that the experts

503
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 1: don't agree. As a matter of fact, they're they're questioning

504
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 1: the accuracy of studies that were done before there there

505
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 1: were six studies that were acknowledged in the past their

506
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 1: problems with some of the methodology, and they were back

507
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 1: in the seventies. Also, I'll point out, and this is

508
00:28:56,440 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 1: obvious to any uh any weed enthusiasts and the out today,

509
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 1: the weed from the nineteen seventies is not the weed

510
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 1: from It's way different. You know what, I mean, it's

511
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 1: not your grandpa, your granddad's weedy. Yeah, so there will

512
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 1: be UH strains are bred to have higher amounts of

513
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 1: psychoactive substances. Right, So if if those substances do influence

514
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 1: your sleep schedule or you know, your sleep cycles, then

515
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 1: it would follow that a higher percentage of that stuff

516
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 1: would have more of an effect. Right. And you know,

517
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 1: you need to do a placebo experiment to see what

518
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 1: happens if someone smokes real weed one day and then

519
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 1: they smoked that fake uh wizard weed or whatever it

520
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 1: was the next day. Did they sleep the same way?

521
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 1: And then also, you know, how do you control for

522
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 1: all the other variables, because sometimes when people make a

523
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 1: big decision to quit something, like if someone says I'm

524
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 1: gonna quit smoking weed, it often comes with other life changes,

525
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 1: and each of those life changes may have an effect

526
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 1: on your sleep cycle in ways that you may may

527
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 1: not predict at first. Sure, there's certainly a lot of

528
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 1: UH factors, Right, there's just some interesting stuff. And you

529
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 1: go to weedlist dot org, vice dot com, Um, what

530
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 1: was the other one here? Uh very well mined dot

531
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 1: com and you can search for this stuff and just

532
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 1: check out what people are saying there's a neurologist on

533
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 1: vice that got interviewed back and I don't know or something.

534
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 1: You just had some interesting things to say about it

535
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 1: and the rebound effect when quitting a substance, specifically marijuana,

536
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 1: and when you quit it in the hyper realistic dreams

537
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 1: that come after that, which which has been self reported

538
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 1: across the internet. You know, I think there's something to it,

539
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 1: but you're right, then we need further study just to

540
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 1: see what it's doing. I'd love to know, especially because

541
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 1: of the such positivity that there is towards cannabis. And

542
00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 1: I think that's great, that's good. I just you know,

543
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 1: like any substance, there's probably something that it's doing that

544
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 1: maybe isn't the best. Again, like any substance, including water,

545
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 1: you can have too much, it can be in the

546
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 1: wrong place, and then you know, like it would be

547
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 1: good to know, at least as humanity, especially when you're

548
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 1: thinking about younger people. And you know, for me, I'm

549
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 1: thinking about my son and as he gets older and

550
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 1: like when he's trying it and like what you know, anyway,

551
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 1: thinking like a dad right now, that's a great point.

552
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 1: And I gotta say, I can't speak for everybody else.

553
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 1: But who am I to judge about substances because I

554
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 1: am guzzling coffee on a regular basis. It is cartoonish. Uh,

555
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 1: But there there is what about you should really look

556
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 1: into stopping that? Right Matt is about to say, this

557
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 1: is what are you sipping on? But just just a monster?

558
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 1: So free? Yeah, So there's there's another theory that I

559
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:58,239
Speaker 1: think I'm just thinking out loud here. Um, what if so, like,

560
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 1: you remember your dreams more often when you wake in

561
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 1: the midst of an r M cycle. Right, So, and

562
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 1: people tend to, like you know, a lot of people

563
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 1: ingest cannabis of some sort to go to bed and

564
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 1: and sleep through the evening or sleep through the day

565
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 1: or whenever you prefer to sleep, sold and ring Right,

566
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 1: is it possible that perhaps that when the habitual cannabis

567
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 1: users stop using it, they're more likely to wake up

568
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 1: during that r M sleep and then thus more likely

569
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 1: to remember that dream. I don't know, I'm free freestyle

570
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 1: and maybe I mean, there are sleep studies, but you're right,

571
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 1: some of them have been flawed. Uh, I don't know.

572
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 1: I just want to see more. I want to learn more,

573
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 1: and like, is it because I don't want to tackle

574
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 1: this thing. Is in as somebody who is anti marijuana

575
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 1: or super pro mari one. I just wanted know what

576
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 1: effect the substance has on dreams in your brains. Well,

577
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 1: you can use me as a guinea pig if you want, guys,

578
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 1: but not the part that requires you to stop. So

579
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 1: just that everybody needs to get high for science, that

580
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 1: is open. What the way you'd have to do it

581
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 1: is you'd have to quit for like two weeks and

582
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 1: and keep it for science. We can do for science.

583
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 1: I can do one week for science. Yeah, yeah, yes,

584
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 1: and then all the people that we test whether or

585
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 1: not that's us. We'll have to have a placebo at

586
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 1: some point, you know what I mean. So, and it

587
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 1: will have to do do some experimentation. But forward to

588
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 1: the future. Forward to the future. Drugs may just save

589
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 1: the world, or they may save some people's minds. There's

590
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 1: a lot of fascinating research going on with psychoactive hallucinogenic substances,

591
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 1: and I can't wait to see where where that leads. Also, hey,

592
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 1: we're not too far off in the US from cannabis

593
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 1: actually being decriminalized across the country. Um, it's really just

594
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 1: a cost benefit. Calculate us by the powers that be,

595
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 1: which makes more money, right, throwing people in prison or

596
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 1: uh taxi legal cannabis. Question, there's no question which is

597
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 1: more valuable to society, you know, because, uh, but it's

598
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 1: not a matter of society most of the time. It's

599
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 1: usually a matter of the people in charge that are

600
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:26,240
Speaker 1: standing to make the most money from that legalized slave

601
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 1: labor that is the prison system. And not to mention,

602
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:30,880
Speaker 1: I don't want to get in a soapbox share, but

603
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,840
Speaker 1: somebody pointed out to me that in the United States, Uh,

604
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:37,319
Speaker 1: most people that are like in dire straits in terms

605
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:40,799
Speaker 1: of mental health, in terms of like homelessness, most of

606
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:44,360
Speaker 1: those people will get the only healthcare of their lives

607
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:49,360
Speaker 1: by being incarcerated. Yeah, so chew on that one for

608
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 1: a minute. No, I don't want to consider that. Sorry,

609
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 1: that is even more of a downer. This whole episode

610
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 1: can't be a down or so, So everyone, let's do

611
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 1: a study quite weed for a week. Just do it.

612
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,799
Speaker 1: Just quit for a week. You'll be fine. Quit for

613
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 1: a week and let us know how your dreams go.

614
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 1: What's the most intense stuff that happens? Are they really

615
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 1: more intense? Well, let's do a case study. We do

616
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 1: it right here, clinical trials. Yeah, I'm on boarding. Awesome, alright,

617
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,880
Speaker 1: Jolly Green Giant, thank you for sending us a voicemail

618
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 1: and we'll be right back with more messages from you.

619
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Speaker 1: And we have returned. I want to open this part

620
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Speaker 1: with a clarification. I want to thank everybody who wrote in,

621
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:38,880
Speaker 1: uh talking about the statement I made earlier regarding e

622
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 1: V or electric vehicles versus i c e. Internal combustion

623
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 1: or internal combustion engine. But you know the old school vehicles. Uh, yeah,

624
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 1: most things aren't coal powered now, and either way slice it,

625
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 1: electric vehicles are going to be less damaging to the

626
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:59,800
Speaker 1: environment than typical fossil fuel vehicles in that regard. The

627
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 1: real problem with electric vehicles is going to come in

628
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:06,279
Speaker 1: the rare earth metals that are needed to power them

629
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 1: and part of their manufacturer. So thank you to everybody

630
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,799
Speaker 1: wrote in. We are going to have an episode on

631
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 1: the rise of the rare earth metals. Uh disaster that's

632
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 1: waiting to happen, you know all the corruption conspiracy that

633
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:24,359
Speaker 1: comes with it. But while we're waiting for that, let's

634
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:28,880
Speaker 1: hear from our old pal, the samurai. Uh. Samurai has

635
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 1: been writing in for quite a while. We always enjoy

636
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 1: getting a letter from him, and Samurai, like many of

637
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 1: our fellow conspiracy realist, shared a personal story in reaction

638
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 1: to our Body Broker's episode, which really, I don't know

639
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 1: about you, guys, but that wouldn't really stuck with me.

640
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 1: Um it was unclean. So so Samurai says, hey guys,

641
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 1: me again as always, you have by permission to read

642
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:55,359
Speaker 1: this on the air, and you may refer to me

643
00:36:55,400 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 1: as the Samurai. I love this episode, Bodybroker, Samurai means,

644
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:02,879
Speaker 1: but it was a little depressing, as I have lost

645
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 1: several people to a combo of COVID and cancer in

646
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 1: the last two and a half years. Nothing you can

647
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:10,279
Speaker 1: do about that, but it was something that needed to

648
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:13,959
Speaker 1: be discussed. I got two items for you today. One

649
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,839
Speaker 1: I cannot give details for I did not have her

650
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 1: permission to do so, but in general, I had a

651
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:22,360
Speaker 1: friend of the family who lost their grandparents to COVID

652
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:27,800
Speaker 1: slash pneumonia and just heads up, folks, this is insane story.

653
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 1: She lived a good distance away and when she was

654
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 1: finally able to get to the hospital where her grandmother died,

655
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 1: they could not find the body because there were no

656
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 1: written instructions, even though they spoke to my friend on

657
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 1: the phone about it and agreed to store the body

658
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 1: until she got there. They had handed it off to

659
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 1: a third party for what was listed on the paper

660
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:54,760
Speaker 1: as various utility purposes. I immediately had visions of Charlton

661
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 1: Heston standing on a truck yelling soil its green, ex

662
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 1: people and m and after complaining, says Samurai, they brought

663
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 1: a body back, but it was not her grandmother. It

664
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 1: took a week, but they finally found and returned the

665
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 1: correct body to her. Oddly enough, it was only missing

666
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 1: some toes. I wish I could tell you I was

667
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 1: making this shop. She was cremated and will be interred

668
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 1: this June. I tried to talk her into getting an attorney,

669
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 1: if for no other reason than to draw attention to

670
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 1: the poor handling, but she told me that she was

671
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 1: not that kind of person. I want to pause there.

672
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 1: That's pretty nuts, right like that. I'm not overreacting here.

673
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 1: That seems criminal, right, They're just giving away the wrong body. Yeah,

674
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 1: I mean that she's taken away, buddy. Well, it's for

675
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:56,719
Speaker 1: that to occur her, This person who was stored in

676
00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 1: a more temporarily I assume must not have had any

677
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:05,880
Speaker 1: kind of labeling on them. The whoever you know physically

678
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 1: spoke to this person did not take any notes, so

679
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 1: there's no medical record whatsoever of communication with family member. Uh.

680
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 1: This is baffling to me that this could occur because

681
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:23,799
Speaker 1: for her body, the grandmother's body, to be unlabeled and

682
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 1: then shipped off, that means there was another body that

683
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:30,320
Speaker 1: was unlabeled and shipped off because that person was clearly

684
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:34,840
Speaker 1: not John Doe or Jane Doe it was or maybe

685
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 1: it was. Maybe they're all listed as Jane does you know? Uh,

686
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 1: it makes me think about them when someone comes in

687
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 1: and they have no family member to take care of them,

688
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 1: perhaps someone who is without a home, or someone who

689
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:53,280
Speaker 1: passes away, you know, Um, just that doesn't have anyone.

690
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,839
Speaker 1: How that system kind of takes place, right if there's

691
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 1: no idea to identify the body, then it does. We

692
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 1: talked about that that body goes can go away for

693
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 1: purposes of donation. Uh, but man to think that it

694
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 1: could happen to somebody who I'm assuming had an I

695
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 1: D was associated with wherever she was living, had an address,

696
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 1: and was able to still get taken away as an

697
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:22,720
Speaker 1: unknown and then lost and had a support network as well.

698
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 1: That's that's frankly, you know, that's one of the most

699
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 1: disturbing parts because at least one body got mixed up, right,

700
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:33,839
Speaker 1: But that in this kind of situation, it's not unreasonable

701
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:37,399
Speaker 1: to assume the cockroaches rule, which is, when you see

702
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 1: one thing wrong, there are probably many other examples that

703
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 1: just aren't visible yet. And luckily this story has somewhat

704
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 1: of a happy ending. But Samurai, your friend is not

705
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 1: the first, not the only person who has had this experience,

706
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 1: far from the only person, and something needs to be

707
00:40:56,840 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 1: done too, seriously, clean up the industry. Um. But we

708
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 1: didn't want to end on an entirely down note, and Samurai,

709
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 1: I don't think you did either, So thank you for this.

710
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 1: Uh here is the second thing he said. And I

711
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:13,279
Speaker 1: thought this would be a nice thing for us to

712
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 1: discuss together. Samurai says, I would love it if you

713
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 1: followed this episode Body Brokers with an episode about the

714
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 1: good ways to enter a family member. My wife and

715
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:26,879
Speaker 1: I want to use a service like Capsula Monday, where

716
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 1: the corps is placed in a cocoon with a sapling

717
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 1: or seed and allowed to be nourishment for a new treat.

718
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 1: To me, that is what should be happening. I mean,

719
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 1: in your own way, you're reincarnating that which was once

720
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 1: you is becoming a part of another living thing. How

721
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:46,240
Speaker 1: much better can it get? And that's that's from Samurai,

722
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 1: But that was that was inspiring. I know we've talked

723
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 1: a little bit about alternative methods. Uh, you know, alternatives

724
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 1: to burial or even cremation. Is sometimes people have to

725
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 1: seek these alternatives cause of the cost factors associated. Right,

726
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 1: it can be tremendously um difficult to pay those expenses,

727
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:11,840
Speaker 1: especially when the death is unexpected. But there are other

728
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:15,280
Speaker 1: things you can do. And I would like to maybe

729
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:19,880
Speaker 1: just pitch some ideas to you guys, to our fellow

730
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 1: conspiracy realists. First, the capsule of Monday thing, that sounds

731
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:26,919
Speaker 1: pretty poetic, right, that's pretty neat. Become a tree, Yeah,

732
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 1: it's beautiful. Yeah. Um, just considering that the ecosystem that

733
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 1: comes along with a single tree, right, the number of

734
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 1: organisms and amount of animal and plant life that gets

735
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 1: supported through that one plant. Is that the same as

736
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 1: a green burial? Or is it somewhat related? Not quite,

737
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 1: but yet I would say they're related. So The green

738
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 1: burial thing is also beautiful in its way because the

739
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 1: body is not embalmed. It's just placed into a biodegradable container.

740
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 1: There's excellent little monastery close to Atlanta called Our Lady

741
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:07,959
Speaker 1: of the Holy Spirit, and they are a green burial site.

742
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, Mission Control and I number

743
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:13,839
Speaker 1: of years ago worked on a short documentary about this

744
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 1: and the burial pod. Though the Capsule of Monday. I

745
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:22,360
Speaker 1: don't know how far it's spread yet as an idea,

746
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 1: but the biodegradable urn is four and forty dollars. That

747
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 1: doesn't count the cost of the tree. But that's a

748
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:33,360
Speaker 1: lot less than a typical funeral, and it might, you know,

749
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 1: it might bring some peace to people to think that

750
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:39,839
Speaker 1: they're continuing in the life cycle of the earth, if

751
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 1: you'll remember to if anyone there's six ft under fans,

752
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 1: there's a subplot. I won't go into any spoilers, but

753
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 1: where someone wants to bury someone naturally, you know, under

754
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 1: a tree and all that. And it's not legal to

755
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 1: just do it anywhere, right like, you have to have

756
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 1: a permit to do it. It has to be in

757
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 1: a particular approved area. You can't just go around burying

758
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 1: unembolved bodies. Willy nilly, right, yeah, exactly. You can understand

759
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 1: how Steve would want some regulations there. Even people who

760
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:10,239
Speaker 1: are against regulations will be like, we should have some

761
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:15,240
Speaker 1: some rules about who can put bodies where, just in general.

762
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 1: Not to be a party pooper, but let's let's get

763
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 1: on the same page about that. You'll also hear a

764
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:26,319
Speaker 1: green burial called recompost or human composting, but I think

765
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 1: green burial is probably where the marketing folks landed. We

766
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 1: talked about donating your body to science. Be very careful

767
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:35,279
Speaker 1: with that. Again, it's one of the most noble things

768
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:38,280
Speaker 1: you can do. But do a lot of homework before.

769
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:42,760
Speaker 1: One thing that startled me. You guys, it is legal

770
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 1: to be buried at sea, your created remains or your

771
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 1: body drop drop him in the ocean. Uh and yeah yeah,

772
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 1: lit bin laden but hopefully consensual one. It is two

773
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:05,839
Speaker 1: to four dollars us. Wow, that's it. It seems like

774
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:08,279
Speaker 1: you would need to It seems like there would be

775
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:12,359
Speaker 1: some more fees for environmental concerns or something that's good

776
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:17,880
Speaker 1: points like, well, I mean, you know, let's maybe this

777
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 1: is a silly question, but I mean, you know, obviously,

778
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:24,320
Speaker 1: the sea is a great way of disposing of illegitimately

779
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 1: deceased bodies. So how do you differentiate the legit ones

780
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:32,439
Speaker 1: from the illegit ones in the event of like having

781
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 1: to drag a seabed or something like that when looking

782
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 1: for a disposed of corpse. It's a big tattoo on

783
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:51,880
Speaker 1: purpose exactly. Oh boy, guys, I cannot wait for burial

784
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:57,359
Speaker 1: at space. How you know that's that's that's my dream too. Man.

785
00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:00,839
Speaker 1: I don't even I don't even have to be uh uh,

786
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 1: this body doesn't even have to be dead this time around.

787
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:06,360
Speaker 1: Just put me, put me on, put me on a ship,

788
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 1: find the path that will go the furthest into the

789
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 1: ink without being interrupted by something, and then I'll just

790
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 1: go just go for it. And uh there's another one,

791
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 1: which is weird because I know we've always wanted to

792
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 1: talk a little bit about it on Stuff that wants,

793
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:28,799
Speaker 1: you know, but it's not quite related to conspiracy. It's

794
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 1: the concept of sky burial and and I know we've

795
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:35,399
Speaker 1: all talked about this off air, right that. Yeah, yeah,

796
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 1: this is an old's favorite thing. Ever, I think which

797
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:43,360
Speaker 1: one it's gotta be some sarcasm. Yeah, it's when it's uh,

798
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 1: it's in the caucus and mostly in Tibet. Uh. The

799
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:52,399
Speaker 1: it's the idea that when somebody dies, let's see, it's

800
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 1: in Tibet, inner Mongolia as well as parts of Mongolia, Bhutan,

801
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 1: maybe a little bit of India in the past. But

802
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:02,279
Speaker 1: it's the idea that when someone eyes, you have a

803
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 1: funarial right where you take them up into the mountains,

804
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 1: a highly elevated place, and you feed their body to

805
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 1: scavenging birds, vultures. Nope, I'm good, I'm okay, So grizzly man,

806
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 1: like I said, throw me in the trash. You know,

807
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 1: I subscribe to that model, the Frank from Always Always

808
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 1: Sunny in Philadelphia model. I don't particularly have any stock

809
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 1: or any you know, preconceived ideas of the afterlife and

810
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 1: what burial you know, method gets grants me access to

811
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 1: set afterlife. So do what thou wilt with my course.

812
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 1: For me, it's going to be more about the comfort

813
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 1: of my loved ones and the folks remaining. But I

814
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:48,839
Speaker 1: say to them, throw me in the trash, or do

815
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 1: what Johnny Depp did two Hunter S. Thompson's ashes. He

816
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 1: also spent three million dollars on it. Apparently he fired

817
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 1: them out of a cannon. That sounds like fun to fire. Yeah,

818
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 1: ashes out of a can. Yeah. I don't understand either.

819
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 1: I just know that some of Depth's finances were revealed

820
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 1: in a lawsuit and there was a line item on

821
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 1: there where he spent three million bucks to pay for

822
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:13,799
Speaker 1: the ceremony to fire Hunter S. Thompson's ashes out of

823
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:17,839
Speaker 1: a cannon. What about you, Matt? What are your what's

824
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:23,799
Speaker 1: your spiritual take? I want the full Egyptian like, give

825
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 1: me the give me the works. Yeah, start building the

826
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 1: pyramid now. Yeah. See, you know that's what I like about.

827
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 1: Like I would approve of pyramid schemes if they were

828
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:40,799
Speaker 1: actually pyramids. If so, it's like I gotta scheme, We're

829
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 1: gonna build a pyramid, I would be like, tell me

830
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:49,399
Speaker 1: how I can help out? So, okay, Matt once, Matt once,

831
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:51,320
Speaker 1: a pyramid? No, you want to be in the trash

832
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:54,759
Speaker 1: and of going to space. Uh. It's it's a weird

833
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 1: way to sum it up today, but we we wanted

834
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 1: to release I want to bring these to our to

835
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:05,359
Speaker 1: our fellow conspiracy realists because you need to know not

836
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:08,320
Speaker 1: just for yourself, but for your loved ones that there

837
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:13,360
Speaker 1: are alternatives to you know, the typical burial, if that

838
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 1: seems financially prohibitive, or if it goes counter to the

839
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:20,840
Speaker 1: beliefs of yourself or your loved ones, there are always

840
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 1: other ways to do this. And and Western society teaches

841
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:29,279
Speaker 1: us incorrectly not to think about death. You know, there's

842
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 1: a great well, it's not a great book. It's very

843
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:34,360
Speaker 1: long book called The Denial of Death, which is all

844
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:37,920
Speaker 1: about fanatology, the study of death. And in that book

845
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 1: the author posits that everything people do is really just

846
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 1: to avoid addressing the fact that up until now, everyone

847
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:52,880
Speaker 1: who has ever born has died at some point. That

848
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 1: might not always be the case. The first immortal maybe

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