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Speaker 1: Ron An Aian. The real question is, first of all,

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Speaker 1: is mama happy with the car?

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Speaker 2: Yep?

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Speaker 1: You okay? Because if mama's not happy, nobody's happy.

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Speaker 2: Mama used to say, thank your time, man, and Mama.

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Speaker 3: Used to say don't you must get over and used

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Speaker 3: to say take it in your stern and used to

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Speaker 3: say it.

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Speaker 1: The car Doctor.

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Speaker 4: I'm a car guy. I like cars. That to me,

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Speaker 4: a car is a just transportation. It's almost an extension

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Speaker 4: of myself.

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Speaker 1: It's a lifestyle.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to the radio home of ron Anian the Car Doctor.

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Speaker 3: Since nineteen ninety one, this is where car owners the

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Speaker 3: world overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair.

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Speaker 3: If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up the.

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Speaker 1: Phone and call in. The garage doors are open. But

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Speaker 1: I am here to take your calls at eight five

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Speaker 1: five five six ninety nine hundred and now. Surely you

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Speaker 1: can't be serious.

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Speaker 4: I am serious. Don't call me.

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Speaker 1: Show here gee.

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Speaker 2: Running.

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Speaker 1: Hey, welcome listeners, and thanks stopping by today. A little

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Speaker 1: bit of a different format today for the Car Doctor.

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Speaker 1: We've got a great treat in store for you. A

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Speaker 1: gentleman by the name of Bill Harmes is with us,

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Speaker 1: and Bill is going to be Let's bring him up

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Speaker 1: right away. And Bill, welcome to the car doctor and

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Speaker 1: introduced to the listeners who they're going to hear about today.

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Speaker 1: Would you please?

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Speaker 4: I'm excited to be here. This car's name is Little Willie.

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Speaker 4: It's named after my father who's first bought it in

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Speaker 4: nineteen fifty seven and he's been in the family ever since.

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Speaker 4: But here, here he is. This is Little Willy talking

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Speaker 4: to you. I hope that came through.

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Speaker 1: It, did, Little Willie's Little Willy's a Model A right.

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Speaker 4: Bill, Yes, it's a MODELATE for nineteen twenty nine Model

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Speaker 4: A Ford Special Coup the Special Coup who was made

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Speaker 4: between the mid of nineteen twenty eight to my mid

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Speaker 4: nineteen twenty nine. And this is a later Special Coop.

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Speaker 4: He was made in June nineteen twenty nine.

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Speaker 1: What's what made him? What made him a special Coop?

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Speaker 4: Well, standard coop has the final thought that goes back

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Speaker 4: to the edge of the roof and then it's metal

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Speaker 4: from there on down to the DECKLD this one, the

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Speaker 4: vinyl goes all the way down to the deckled right.

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Speaker 4: That only thing that makes it special. I don't know

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Speaker 4: if it's really special. But it was special to Henry

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Speaker 4: Ford because it was the car, the Model A that

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Speaker 4: he drove to work every day, the Model A picture.

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Speaker 1: So this is so to see the depression. The depression

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Speaker 1: was twenty eight, right when the when the stock market crashed,

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Speaker 1: So this car was made the year after the stock

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Speaker 1: market crashed.

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Speaker 4: Exactly.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 4: Actually they first made the first ones in nineteen twenty seven,

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Speaker 4: but the automobile year, like they do now, is a

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Speaker 4: year in advance towards end of the year, so they

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Speaker 4: were all called twenty eight. Okay, that makes sense.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, yeah, I guess back then, sure, everything was

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Speaker 1: a little different than it is today. So if it

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Speaker 1: was made the year after the depression, you know, well

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Speaker 1: there must have been, right was there demand for the cars?

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Speaker 1: Nobody had any money, but I guess there must have been.

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Speaker 1: What sort of effect do you think the car had

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Speaker 1: on the Great Depression in terms of you know, creating

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Speaker 4: It was only in production for four years, so I'm

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Speaker 4: not sure the economics about the time, but there were

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Speaker 4: a lot of innovations with it. Henry Ford tried to

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Speaker 4: keep the cost down. He would take the parts the

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Speaker 4: certain specifications for those part boxes so that he could

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Speaker 1: So you mean, well, the the boxes were made out

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Speaker 1: of wood, right.

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Speaker 4: They were made out of wood, and the part of

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Speaker 1: So this car has been in your family since nineteen

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Speaker 4: That's right. My father bought it in March nineteen fifty seven.

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Speaker 4: I was just over a year old when the car

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Speaker 4: I went to college. I dated girls in it. I

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Speaker 4: used to write in all the time of the family car.

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Speaker 4: For a while, I helped my dad restore it when

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Speaker 4: I was in nineteen seventy two, it'd be about fifteen

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Speaker 4: National Modelay Meet in Seattle in nineteen seven two, and

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Speaker 4: the car got a blue ribbon, which means that it

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Speaker 4: for show. But still that's still a good right.

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Speaker 1: Sure? Yeah, what's what's top speed of Little Willy? Just

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Speaker 4: Before or after I changed the engine?

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Speaker 1: Well as as as before, let's go before. How fast

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Speaker 4: If you pushed him, he could go over sixty maybe

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Speaker 4: sixty one, sixty two?

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Speaker 1: Right when?

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Speaker 4: Did start underheating at that point? So you got it

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Speaker 1: Okay? So what will he do now?

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Speaker 4: He does? I had him up to seventy one as

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Speaker 4: a new, brand new engine, and I believe it or.

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Speaker 1: Not, now obviously a new model a engine. You haven't

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Speaker 4: It's the engine was made in China. It's called the

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Speaker 4: Bert's engine. Terry Bert went to China and found a

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Speaker 4: foundry over there that would make the block for it,

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Speaker 4: and you can add on all the regular modeling parts

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Speaker 4: to it. This one has an air as a oil filter,

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Speaker 4: which the original one didn't, and it has five main

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Speaker 4: And they changed the cooling system inside the engine so

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Speaker 4: You can get a little bit more out of it.

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Speaker 1: Why did you you know other than the obvious. You know,

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Speaker 1: let's change the engine a little bit of a power

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Speaker 1: upgrade kind of a thing? Was it? Was? It not

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Speaker 4: Blue ahead gasket. So I took it to a guy

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Speaker 4: And he did a magnifus fused test on it, and

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Speaker 4: who could rebuild engines, and they said, well, you can

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Speaker 4: for two days or twenty years, right, So I just

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Speaker 1: Are are there any parts left for Model A bill?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 4: They are about five or six major Model A suppliers

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Speaker 4: that have virtually almost anything you should find, from fenders

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Speaker 4: to engines, to transmissions, to the detailed screws for the

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Speaker 1: Why do you think that is? I mean, here's a

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Speaker 1: car that's in my book one hundred years old? What's

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Speaker 1: what's the fact? What do you think the fascination is?

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Speaker 4: I don't know. From what I understand. They are about

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Speaker 4: three hundred thousand of them registered by the state DMVs

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Speaker 4: the United States too, So it's still a fairly popular car.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's a real niche market, of course, right,

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Speaker 4: But there's enough of a niche market that people are

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Speaker 1: Is there enough parts out there? I mean, could you

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Speaker 1: build a brand new one from scratch if you wanted

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Speaker 1: to do? You have to have the bones to make

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Speaker 4: Yeah, actually you could. Somebody did the calculations one time

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Speaker 4: and it costs you about fifty sixty thousand dollars.

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Speaker 1: It'd be brand new.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you can make it out of all new parts.

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Speaker 1: Yet, So, what's the furthest you've ever taken Little Willie?

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Speaker 1: I mean, obviously, I'm sure it's parades and around town

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Speaker 4: But I well, last Saturday we had him out for

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Speaker 4: That's the furthest I've had him since I've had the

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Speaker 4: new engine. When I was a kid. I dated a

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Speaker 1: Man, if little Willy breaks down on the side of

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Speaker 1: the road, what do you do? Do you have tools?

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Speaker 1: Do you have parts? I mean you can probably you

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Speaker 4: Something simple, you can fix it on the side of

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Speaker 4: the road. If the carb ration goes bad, or I

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Speaker 4: got spare spark plugs and spare wiring, and I got

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Speaker 4: It's something simple like that, you can get it fixed.

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Speaker 4: But if you can't get it started, and no matter

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Speaker 4: what you do, you call it Triple A and they'll

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Speaker 4: come and tow you. Right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, thank god for Triple A. Does not Now I'm

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Speaker 1: not up on my Model a's bill, and I'm not

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Speaker 1: going to claim to. But does a Model A have

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Speaker 1: an electric starter? Or is this a hand crank?

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Speaker 4: The answer to most questions is yes, so it can

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Speaker 4: be Also it can be either or start.

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Speaker 1: So is the electric start or the option or did

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Speaker 1: you add it?

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Speaker 4: No, it's it came with the car. But people would

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Speaker 4: use the crank if the battery ran down right if

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Speaker 4: you or you can push it if you're on an incline,

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Speaker 4: it started. It starts really easily. I've had it. I

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Speaker 4: got it tuned up to where, uh, even when it's cold,

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Speaker 4: it will start within five seconds.

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Speaker 1: And what do you do? You know, I'm just thinking

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Speaker 1: of some of the basic maintenance that he may need

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Speaker 1: along the way, you know, as far as octane of

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Speaker 1: fuel and oil. I'll tell you what, Bill, Let's I'm

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Speaker 1: watching the clock. Let's let me pull over, take a pause.

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Speaker 1: When we come back, let's talk a little bit about

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Speaker 1: basic maintenance. And then I want to I want to

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Speaker 1: hear your plans for continuation in the family as is

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Speaker 1: the family. Has the family adopted little Willy the way

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Speaker 1: you have, and you know, is there a start involved

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Speaker 1: in that kind of thing. So let's pull over, take

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Speaker 1: a pause. I'm ronnin Aiding the car doctor. I'm here

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Speaker 1: talking with Bill harm about his friend Little Willy, his

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Speaker 1: Model A from nineteen twenty nine. And we'll both return

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Speaker 1: right after this.

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Speaker 2: Don't go away.

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Speaker 1: For the best in car advice, give Ron a call

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Speaker 1: eight five five five six zero nine. Nine zero zero.

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Speaker 4: Now back to.

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Speaker 1: Ron and we're back. Welcome back, run and eating the

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Speaker 1: car Doctor. This one's for fun, guys. It's uh. We're

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Speaker 1: talking to Bill Harmes. Bill owns a nineteen twenty nine

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Speaker 1: be for him. Bill, before we took the pause, were

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Speaker 1: you were saying that it was your dad's card.

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Speaker 2: When did you When.

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Speaker 1: Did you actually come into possession of little Willy? Because

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Speaker 1: you probably he was probably in and out of your life, right,

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Speaker 4: Right when I went to college, I kind of lost contact.

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Speaker 4: I only had with contact with him when I went

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Speaker 4: back home from college or after I got married. Then

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Speaker 4: my father passed away about eight years ago, and I

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Speaker 4: inherited from him then, but I wasn't I didn't have

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Speaker 4: a garage to put him in. So we got a

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Speaker 4: garage to put him in about three and a half

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Speaker 4: years ago, and I had him shipped out from Spokane

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Speaker 4: to Western New York. I've been playing with him ever

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Speaker 4: since then. It was kind of like getting in touch

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I could. I could see that.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: Someone once told me that we're really don't own these

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Speaker 1: classic cars. We're just the caretakers for the time that

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Speaker 1: reality of it. Could you imagine driving Little Willy cross country?

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Speaker 1: How neat that would have been back in the day.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, with all the dirt roads and potholes and

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Speaker 1: People people did right. But I guess then if you

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Speaker 4: It was probably fairly easy because they were pretty popular

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Speaker 4: back then. There were about five million of them. Made

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Speaker 1: Wow, crazy, that's crazy. And now and now you're now

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Speaker 1: you're Little Willie's caretaker. But you've got help also, as

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Speaker 1: I understand it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, my son has been helping me out. The members

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Speaker 4: have helped me out, and they're the one that helped

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Speaker 4: me put the engine in the car. There's a couple

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Speaker 4: of friends at our church that are in the old

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Speaker 4: couple of things. We've put in new shocks, We've looped

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Speaker 4: my grandson William and I spent time the thing. A

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Speaker 4: couple of times. He had in grease gun out and

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Speaker 4: he was helping me with that. We've put in a

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Speaker 4: turn signals which is a modern innovation, and the car

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Speaker 4: has joined the twenty first century. It has a USB.

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Speaker 1: Power sport in it is that to interface with the radio.

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Speaker 1: Does the car have a radio?

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Speaker 4: Bill, No, it does not have a radio, but we

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Speaker 4: should listen to music on our.

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Speaker 1: Phone right right right. I'm sure it doesn't have an

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Speaker 1: OBD two connector either. No computers on this car at all,

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Speaker 1: you know, no, not at all. So what sort of

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Speaker 1: maintenance does he require? You know, what do you do

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Speaker 1: to him on an annual basis? Change the oil?

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Speaker 4: You got to change the oil frequently. It's got an

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Speaker 4: oil filter on it, and he changed oil about every

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Speaker 4: fifteen hundred or two thousand miles. He's got to make

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Speaker 4: sure that it's moved up every five hundred miles. Just

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Speaker 4: make sure that the paint on it stays. I've been

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Speaker 4: working a project to do the undercarriage. I'm repainting the

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Speaker 4: undercarriage to get rid of the rest, because the rest

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Speaker 4: is the worst enemy of these own cars. This car

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Speaker 4: is in good shape. It doesn't have any thing other

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Speaker 4: than a few surface rest places and hasn't run through anything,

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Speaker 4: which makes it a premium car.

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Speaker 1: Actually, you know, you've got to believe then, as I do,

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Speaker 4: Yes, do. Actually, my father was an autobody repair man.

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Speaker 4: That was his job. I worked with him when he

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Speaker 4: worked with the car when I was a kid, and

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Speaker 4: I feel like when I'm working on him now, I'm

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Speaker 4: channeling him to help me with the car. And my

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Speaker 4: My grandson wants to be able to drive the car

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Speaker 4: to high school like Grandpa did.

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Speaker 1: Now that's see, Now that's kind of neat, but you see,

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Speaker 1: he'll learn how to be self sufficient. He'll have you know,

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Speaker 1: there's something about working on an older car and keeping

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Speaker 4: That's true. I agree. Yeah, I've had to figure out

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Speaker 4: I'm channeling my dad to help me do this. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: That that that that connection right, you know, it's it's

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Speaker 1: and that's really what it's all about. So yeah, well,

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Speaker 4: Well, we've put in some soundproofing already and we're finishing

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Speaker 4: that up. What else am I? God, I'm going to

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Speaker 4: put in a synchronous transmission. It has asynchronous transmission. And

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Speaker 4: if you don't get the years right, it grinds like

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Speaker 4: I'll get out. It was a synchronous transmission. You can,

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Speaker 4: it doesn't grind as much. And my wife wants to

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Speaker 4: drive the car, but she's afraid to drive it because

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Speaker 1: Right If the listeners, if the listeners want to see

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Speaker 4: You can go to the model A Club Port Club

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Speaker 4: of America Facebook and look up little Willy. Just do

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Speaker 1: Him there and he's listed. Wow, that's great. Bill. I

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Speaker 1: want to say thank you. I appreciate you taking the time.

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Speaker 1: we are and the America at that moment, Bill, Bill Harms,

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Speaker 1: I want to thank you and say had a little

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Speaker 1: and for all our listeners, we all we appreciate having

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Speaker 1: you here and we'll see you next time. We'll have

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Speaker 2: It's not convince that she was dying and that.

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Speaker 3: My des hand.

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Speaker 2: She woke up and took me by the hands.

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Speaker 1: She's gone love me and my Chevy Van, and that's.

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Speaker 3: All right with me.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back listeners. You know this time of year we

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Speaker 1: all start to think about well, classic cars cruising uh

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Speaker 1: this time of year also, if you're a regular listener,

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Speaker 1: We're getting ready for Father's Day that's right around the

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Speaker 1: corner somewhere. Cruising season is upon us, and we're going

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Speaker 1: to be talking about car books like we always do.

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Speaker 1: And today we're going to talk about Dodge and Plymouth

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Speaker 1: muscle cars from the sixty to today. And we're we

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Speaker 1: have with us today one of the co authors, Tom Glatch,

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Speaker 1: and we're going to put them on the spot, ask

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Speaker 1: because that's really what this segment is all about. Tom.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Car Doctor.

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Speaker 5: Sir, Thank you very much. As an honor.

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Speaker 1: You know, we always start out this way. Car guys

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Speaker 1: always have or car persons, all right, we've had some

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Speaker 1: we've had women on the show as well that do this.

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Speaker 1: You know that first car. What was that first car?

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Speaker 2: Tom?

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Speaker 5: It was a nineteen seventy Plymouth Duster three forty. You

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Speaker 5: have to picture it. It was metallic, burnt orange, metallic

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Speaker 5: which is metallic root beer color right, the black final top.

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Speaker 5: You don't see many of them even back then in

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Speaker 5: that color. And with the three forty, that was a screamer.

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Speaker 5: I would run it until the veils floaded, bang the gears,

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Speaker 1: How old were you when you had that car?

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Speaker 5: I was nineteen. I was not one of those people

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Speaker 4: And bought a car. I was.

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Speaker 1: Now when you look back and you go, geez, what

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Speaker 1: I had at nineteen? Are you amazed you survived?

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Speaker 4: It was a.

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Speaker 5: Challenge, yes, yes, and you know, not that we did

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I would like to say we didn't. We

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Speaker 5: I traded it in on a nineteen sixty nine BMW

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Speaker 5: Don't get me wrong. It was just gas prices started

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Speaker 5: skyrocketing in the mid seventies and it was just getting

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Speaker 5: too costly to drive. Plus I live in the Midwest.

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Speaker 5: It was totally impractical in winter, and the BMW was

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Speaker 1: It's always been. Has it always been Dodge Plymouth Hot

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Speaker 1: Because it's funny guys tend to stick to one brand.

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Speaker 5: I'm not a collector, never really collected cars, not one

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Speaker 5: of those people that works on them much. So I've

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Speaker 5: had a variety, but I've always been a mopar guy

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Speaker 5: at heart, even before I bought this Plymouth. Growing up,

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Speaker 5: we were Richard Petty fans, and here in the Midwest

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Speaker 5: Nelson and people like that, we were just the first race.

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Speaker 5: I went to my brother took me to the Milwaukee

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Speaker 5: that's my kind of car.

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Speaker 1: How how rare was it hemy for you to see

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Speaker 5: It was almost as rare were seeing today. In fact,

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Speaker 5: I really don't remember any in the neighborhood. My friends

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Speaker 5: our day. And they were all threety threes for forties,

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Speaker 5: my three forty. You just never saw hemmies back then.

443
00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:37,240
Speaker 5: We were just too expensive, right.

444
00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,800
Speaker 1: But you did have multiple carb cars, right, you had

445
00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:43,520
Speaker 1: the six packs and such, right, yeah, And little did

446
00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:45,159
Speaker 1: we know what would become of those. A friend of

447
00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:50,280
Speaker 1: mine had an actual seventy one hem Couda and yeah

448
00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:52,960
Speaker 1: it and you know, he kicks himself to this day.

449
00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:54,639
Speaker 5: It's just very valuable now.

450
00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:57,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, it's it just became and it was

451
00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:03,000
Speaker 1: it was a was a plum Craze the Purple Yeah,

452
00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,800
Speaker 1: but it just back in the day this is he

453
00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:09,399
Speaker 1: had that car, another car. Yeah, it was just another car. Yeah,

454
00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,280
Speaker 1: you know, around seventy five seventy six, it just became

455
00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:14,480
Speaker 1: too expensive. He couldn't keep up with the guess he

456
00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:16,880
Speaker 1: couldn't keep up with the repairs and the maintenance.

457
00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:18,280
Speaker 5: Exactly, and he traded it.

458
00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,320
Speaker 1: I think if it was for two grand and I

459
00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:24,160
Speaker 1: used state police car with one hundred thousand miles.

460
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Speaker 5: On it, I'm like, oh my god.

461
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:29,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, we didn't know. We just didn't know.

462
00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:29,800
Speaker 5: We didn't know.

463
00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,399
Speaker 1: So how did you come to write the book? You know,

464
00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:35,159
Speaker 1: Dodge and Plymouth muscle cars, every model from nineteen sixty

465
00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,439
Speaker 1: to today. You co authored that with Mike Muller. How

466
00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:38,639
Speaker 1: did that? How did that come to be?

467
00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:39,800
Speaker 5: Well?

468
00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:42,679
Speaker 4: This is this was my fifth book for Motor Books.

469
00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:45,679
Speaker 5: I've been writing about cars and photographing cars for forty

470
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Speaker 5: one years so, and that was all for magazines and

471
00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:53,520
Speaker 5: calendars and things like that. But starting in twenty fifteen,

472
00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:56,720
Speaker 5: I wrote my first book for Motor Books at their suggestion,

473
00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:00,360
Speaker 5: and then last year they came to me that, hey,

474
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:02,800
Speaker 5: do you want to take on this project? Mike Weiler

475
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:06,000
Speaker 5: did the book in two thousand and eight. He's an

476
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 5: outstanding writer, an outstanding photographer. I've known him for thirty

477
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 5: five years and he's one of the people I really

478
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:14,800
Speaker 5: look up to, one of the best.

479
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Speaker 1: In the business.

480
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Speaker 5: But he retired a couple of years ago, and the

481
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:20,440
Speaker 5: book that he did, because it came out in two

482
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:24,000
Speaker 5: thousand and eight, ended pretty much at nineteen seventy four,

483
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,840
Speaker 5: just hints at the new Charger and Challenger that were

484
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,240
Speaker 5: coming out, you know, around that two thousand and eight

485
00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:34,359
Speaker 5: two thousand and six time frame. More Books wanted to

486
00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:36,520
Speaker 5: bring it into the twenty first entry and last year

487
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:38,600
Speaker 5: was the perfect year to do it, since it was

488
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:43,440
Speaker 5: the last year probably or possibly for the gasoline powered

489
00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:49,200
Speaker 5: Hemi powered muscle car. So Mike, being retired now, didn't

490
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 5: want to do it. They turned to me again, being

491
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 5: a friend of Mike, and Mike with Mike's blessing, I

492
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Speaker 5: was glad to do it.

493
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Speaker 1: You know, I've gone through the book and I love

494
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:04,560
Speaker 1: the way you've taken year by year, motor by motor,

495
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 1: you know, engine option by engine option. You know, you

496
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:10,120
Speaker 1: go to nineteen sixty six, nineteen sixty six Plymouth Satellite

497
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 1: Hemi on page thirty seven, and you list the specs

498
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:17,719
Speaker 1: and the color photography is outstanding. You know, did you

499
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:21,240
Speaker 1: do you know? Did they these aren't stock photographs? Did

500
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,720
Speaker 1: you go and photograph cars of these samples?

501
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 4: Like?

502
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:25,840
Speaker 1: Where did you come up with the cars that put

503
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Speaker 1: on the pages?

504
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 5: The first ten chapters was all Mike. Mike's writing and

505
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 5: Mike's photography, and he was in the Atlanta area, but

506
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 5: he's from central Illinois, and he just he has a

507
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 5: lot of collection connections and a lot of people he knows,

508
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:45,400
Speaker 5: and so he sourced all of those photos up through

509
00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 5: nineteen seventy four. Right, I did everything now from two

510
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:55,399
Speaker 5: thousand and six to twenty twenty three, and those are

511
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:58,240
Speaker 5: all cars that I knew in the area, people that

512
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 5: are passionate about Chrysler products, about maintaining Chrysler products and

513
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:07,160
Speaker 5: owning them. And they were just a joy to work

514
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,119
Speaker 5: with and a pleasure to photograph these cars and to

515
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:13,440
Speaker 5: write about them. It just it was just a fantastic project.

516
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,439
Speaker 1: You know, you have to give Chrysler credit, right because

517
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 1: their current level crop of muscle cars, so to speak,

518
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:22,919
Speaker 1: is so reminiscent of the cars from the sixties and

519
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,679
Speaker 1: the seventies. In terms of horsepower, in terms of look.

520
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,200
Speaker 5: Oh ridiculous, what they've what they've done with it. You

521
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 5: know when when people say, oh, the sixties were the

522
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 5: good old days, Now they were great. I lived through them,

523
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 5: You lived through them. But these are the good old

524
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 5: days right now too. One thy and twenty five horse

525
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 5: power in the Demon one seventies. That's incredible.

526
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 1: Well, it's one thy twenty five horsepower and a car

527
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 1: that you can do one hundred and forty in one

528
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:52,560
Speaker 1: finger holding onto the wheel. The air conditioning's on, the

529
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:56,200
Speaker 1: power windows are working, the radio's blasting away, and you're

530
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:57,920
Speaker 1: driving it with one finger on the wheel. Not that

531
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Speaker 1: I encourage anybody to try that, but but you could.

532
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 1: Right it's you know the old muscle cars. A friend

533
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 1: of mine has a Shelby GT. Three fifty, you know,

534
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 1: Cobra a Shelby, and you know, Jimmy always tells you

535
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 1: that Blue is trying to kill you if you don't

536
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:14,360
Speaker 1: pay attention. You got to hang on with two wheels,

537
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 1: both feet, eyes wide open.

538
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 5: That was a challenge to drive.

539
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a challenge to drive, just like any of

540
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:22,200
Speaker 1: the muscle cars you know that we talk about in

541
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 1: the book from the sixties and the seventies. Anything from

542
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 1: the sixties and the seventies require full attention. Oh yeah,

543
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,480
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's but the book covers it all.

544
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,119
Speaker 1: You know, you go all the way up through modern

545
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 1: day Chrysler. I mean this book, the color photography, the pages,

546
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 1: the engines just leap off the pages. There's no other

547
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 1: way to say it.

548
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 5: And my challenge was to take what Mike had done

549
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 5: those first ten chapters and right in a similar style

550
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 5: and photograph in a similar style, so that a person

551
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,639
Speaker 5: goes go from chapter ten that Mike did to chapter

552
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,920
Speaker 5: eleven that I did and really not notice that it

553
00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,639
Speaker 5: was somebody who writing it or somebody new doing the

554
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,159
Speaker 5: photog it says. I've known Mike for years and I

555
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 5: really admired his work, and we have similar styles. I

556
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:06,440
Speaker 5: think it turned out great.

557
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 1: You know, I'll tell you what you know. Let's pull

558
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 1: over and take a pause. You got you got time

559
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:11,920
Speaker 1: to come back, tom. Let me pull over and take

560
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 1: a pause, and we'll cover this a little bit more

561
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 1: in detail. Let's talk a little bit about I've got

562
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,119
Speaker 1: some muscle car memories of Chryslers from the sixties and

563
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,920
Speaker 1: the seventies. Maybe we can do a little bench race

564
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 1: and when we get back, I'm Ronning ENnie in the

565
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 1: Car Doctor. I'm here with Tom Glatch. We're talking about

566
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 1: Dodge and Plymouth muscle cars of the sixties. We'll return

567
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 1: right after this.

568
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 2: Don't go away, and we're back.

569
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Speaker 1: Ron An Anie in the Car Doctor. Here we're talking

570
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 1: to Tom Glatch. Tom is the co author of the

571
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 1: Complete Book of Dodge and Plymouth Muscle Cars. Tom and

572
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 1: we pulled away for the pause. I promised we would

573
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 1: come back. I want to talk a little bit about

574
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 1: those rare Dodge and Plymouth muscle cars. You know, I

575
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 1: told you the story off air of my friend Nikki

576
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 1: who had an early sixties and you gave me the

577
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 1: year he had an early sixties Chrysler. It was a

578
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 1: factory race car with plexiglass windows and seatbelts to hold

579
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 1: the windows up right, right.

580
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,479
Speaker 5: You know, sixty two to sixty six or so.

581
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know you got to give Chrysler credit, right,

582
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 1: they were putting factory street cars out there. I mean

583
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 1: fort and GM were two, but yeah, some of those Chryslers.

584
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 1: I have to say, I actually have seen more Chrysler

585
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 1: factory race cars. More Chrysler odd odd cars I called them,

586
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 1: or maybe that's the wrong word. You know, it's I've

587
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 1: never seen a Copo Camaro, I've never seen. I've seen

588
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 1: one Boss four twenty nine Mustang one. But I've seen

589
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 1: I've seen a HEMI kuda, I've seen, you know. I

590
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 1: I saw Nicky's, you know, early sixties Dodge race car

591
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 1: that was acid dipped fenders and all that stuff. You know,

592
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 1: I told you the story. I got picked up hitch

593
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 1: hiking by a guy with a Dodge Darty. You put

594
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 1: a four forty motor in a in a Dodge Dart

595
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 1: and the thing roasted the tires down Main Street, Ramsey.

596
00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 1: Uh you know, I know we're right around the corner

597
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 1: from the there's three early sixties Chrysler. Was that a

598
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 1: three hundred with the Was that a four to thirteen

599
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 1: wedge motor with the twin four barrels, the cross rams with.

600
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 5: The cross rams, right, you know? And that was all

601
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 5: racing technology.

602
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 1: And how rare are those very.

603
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 5: They only made a few hundred every year. They're very expensive,

604
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 5: but I've seen more of those are faster than corvettes.

605
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 1: Yes, well, we could we could talk about I'm not

606
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 1: fascinated by the earliest corvettes. That's you ever try and steer.

607
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 1: A friend of mine's got a sixty one Corvette just

608
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 1: to start. That's a whole other conversation. But all those

609
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 1: cars that I'm talking about are in the book. Maybe

610
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 1: not Nicky's race car, but you know the four thirteen

611
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 1: and the cross Rams and even some of the pictures

612
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 1: of the slant sixes with two four barrels on them.

613
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 5: Again all racing technology. They just did half of what

614
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 5: they did with the vights.

615
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, if you could have any one of

616
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 1: those cars, what would it be?

617
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 5: Gosh, I don't know. I would take any one of

618
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 5: those from the sixty three sixty four. That's that's where

619
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 5: I really got as a kid eight years old, I'm going, man,

620
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 5: these things are cool and to stay.

621
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Speaker 1: With me since it's it's it's and you know what,

622
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 1: it's a good disease to have.

623
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Speaker 5: Tom It really is a fanatics. That's why I love

624
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 5: doing this book.

625
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 4: Uh.

626
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 1: You know what one thing I will say about mopars

627
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 1: and I'm a I'm a GM guy. I'm a self

628
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 1: admitted GM guy, but I still have respect for all

629
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 1: the brands. You can look at a Dodge Plymouth muscle car.

630
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 1: What always fascinated with them was you would pop the hood.

631
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 1: The engine compartment was always painted the same color as

632
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 1: the exterior paint. That's right, And that told me what

633
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 1: the engineer spot of it as to how good that

634
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 1: paint actually was. That it was it would withstand engine

635
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 1: compartment heat and it held up. I was always fascinated

636
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 1: by that. I know it's a little detail, but just

637
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 1: something I always saw. So the name of the book

638
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 1: is the Complete Dodge and Plymouth muscle Cars, every model

639
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 1: from nineteen sixty to today. It's written by Mike Muller

640
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 1: and with our guest today, Tom Glatch.

641
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 3: Tom.

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00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 1: Where can the listeners get this book if they want

643
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 1: to do so? Father's Days around the corner, and I'm

644
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 1: sure everybody wants to pick one up for mom or

645
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 1: dad and kind of relive the old days.

646
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 5: Where can they find it anywhere? Barnes and Noble, Amazon,

647
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 5: independent bookstores, you name. It gets out there. Okay, he'll

648
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 5: be out there. It'll be out there. June six, June

649
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 5: eighteenth is the publishing date.

650
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 1: Gotcha? If not, they can get out the Quarto q

651
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,719
Speaker 1: U A r t O Quarto dot Com and get

652
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:36,959
Speaker 1: pre find it. They're pre ordered, so Tom an absolute pleasure.

653
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 1: We'll have to get together again and go bench rising sometime.

654
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 1: I enjoyed the conversation, sir, thank you, thank you very much.

655
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 1: You're very welcome. I'm Ronning any and the card Doctor.

656
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 1: We'll see you guys on the other side. I'll be

657
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 1: back right after this. Hey, welcome back ron and naming

658
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 1: the car Doctor. And again Tom Glatch. I can't thank

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Speaker 1: him enough for taking the time to sit and talk

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Speaker 1: with us today. And you know the name of the

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Speaker 1: book once again is Dodge and Plymouth muscle Cars, every

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Speaker 1: model from nineteen sixty to today. It's out. It's out

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Speaker 1: this month. It'll be out in June by Motor Books.

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Speaker 1: You can find it if you get out to Quarto

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Speaker 1: qu a r t O Quarto dot com and it'll

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Speaker 1: be there. You know the color pictures that are in

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Speaker 1: this As I sit and leave through it, as I

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Speaker 1: think I talked about in the interview with him, or

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Speaker 1: perhaps it was off the air, it's like being in

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Speaker 1: high school again.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 1: I went to high school for about a year in

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Speaker 1: a buddy's car. John picked me up. He had a

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Speaker 1: seventy three forty Tha Kuda, the three forty six pack car,

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Speaker 1: and we just it was just another car to us.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't anything, you know, it wasn't anything crazy or special.

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Speaker 1: It was just it was just another set of wheels.

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Speaker 1: And you know, we drove that car every day. And

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Speaker 1: then John traded, I believe he then that's when he

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Speaker 1: went to a Camaro. It was a it was a

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Speaker 1: sixty nine, I want to say, it was a sixty eight,

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Speaker 1: sixty eight Camara with a big block in it. But

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Speaker 1: the big block was gone by then because we were

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Speaker 1: high school kids in the early seventies, and you know,

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Speaker 1: those cars had been street raced and you know, broken

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Speaker 1: in and abused a little and some of the engines

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Speaker 1: were blown up. So they were replaced with you know,

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Speaker 1: less available you know, small or more available small blocks

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Speaker 1: and things like that. But it was still the body styles.

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Speaker 1: But we had no idea what muscle cars were going

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Speaker 1: to become and the value of them today and the

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Speaker 1: uniqueness of them today. But this book, the complete Book

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Speaker 1: of Dodge and Plymouth, as Tom pointed out, really breaks

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Speaker 1: it down for you and really puts it in perspective.

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Speaker 1: And you know, if you want to take a trip

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Speaker 1: back to the memory lane. You know that's the way

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Speaker 1: to do it. So you know, get out the Quarto

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Speaker 1: q u a r t o Quarto dot com a

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Speaker 1: great book for Dad coming up Father's Day, or bring

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Speaker 1: some memories back, and I'm sure it hits a plymouth guy.

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Speaker 1: And even if he's not a plymouth guy, I'll bring

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Speaker 1: some memories back. So that about does it for me

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Speaker 1: this hour. I want to tell you it's been a pleasure.

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Speaker 1: I always enjoy being here with you guys and talking

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Speaker 1: cars on the weekend till the next time I'm running

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Speaker 1: Adi in the car Doctor. The mechanics aren't expensive. You're placeless.

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Speaker 2: See