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Speaker 2: Our first segment of the night is a news cap
Speaker 2: whoo and boys of the joosy.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 2: I don't know what they got going on in Boston,
Speaker 2: but it's something good. They opened up the tea party
Speaker 2: on the Warriors. The Celtics beat the Warriors bout fifty two.
Speaker 2: The Celtics become the first team in NBA history to
Speaker 2: win at least three games by fifty plus points in
Speaker 2: a calendar season. Let that sink here for a second.
Speaker 2: In one season, they've already beaten three teams by at
Speaker 2: least fifty points. The Warriors have won thirteen of their
Speaker 2: last sixteen games, eleven straight. And that comes with no
Speaker 2: Christophe Prezingers thirteen of sixteen and no presingers. And you know, hey,
Speaker 2: the Warriors had been playing well. The Warriors had been
Speaker 2: playing extremely well. The Celtics won by fifty two in
Speaker 2: the game was over at half. I'm not mistaken. I
Speaker 2: think the game was what eighty two to thirty eight
Speaker 2: at the half. I've never seen a score like that, Gil,
Speaker 2: I mean, I've seen teams get to I remember I
Speaker 2: think that the Phoenix Suns scored one hundred and three
Speaker 2: or one hundred and five and a half. So I've
Speaker 2: seen teams get to like the eighties and get to
Speaker 2: the nineties. Like I said, I remember the Phoenix Sun
Speaker 2: scored over one hundred at the half. But I've never
Speaker 2: seen a score this lopsided at the half. What forty
Speaker 2: four points? Yeah, forty four points at a half? Eighty
Speaker 2: two to thirty eight, and it was you know, they're
Speaker 2: playing without presingers. And as I mentioned, the Warriors were
Speaker 2: playing extremely well. So what did you take away from
Speaker 2: this ball game? What did you take away from what
Speaker 2: Boston did, how well they played, and what do you
Speaker 2: see from Golden State.
Speaker 4: It showed exactly why it's.
Speaker 1: Hard to guard people in today's game, Right, there's so
Speaker 1: much offense on the court that when you tried to
Speaker 1: let someone shoot, like today, they went into the game
Speaker 1: letting Jalen Brown shoot the ball.
Speaker 4: Yeah, right, the guy.
Speaker 1: Who makes two hundred and fifty seven million dollars.
Speaker 4: He's the guy three hundred. Yeah, three hundred and four.
Speaker 1: We're gonna let We're gonna let mister three hundred shoot
Speaker 1: those shots. And he had nineteen points. The score was
Speaker 1: nineteen to twenty one. He had nineteen points in the
Speaker 1: first quarter, which they finished forty four to twenty two.
Speaker 4: Yikes, Like they got outscored when it was.
Speaker 1: Twenty one twenty one and they got to go out
Speaker 1: score twenty eighty three and then they finished they finished
Speaker 1: a quarter forty four to twenty two. It just shows
Speaker 1: you how much scoring powers is in the game now.
Speaker 2: It is, and it's tough, like you said, but Harr's
Speaker 2: the thing when you let a professional, I mean, just
Speaker 2: think about what you're saying. You're letting a professional do
Speaker 2: something uninhibited. Oh, he's not the best receiver, so we're
Speaker 2: not gonna guard him.
Speaker 4: That's basically what you're saying.
Speaker 2: Well, he's not there, he's not their best shooter, so
Speaker 2: we're not gonna guard him. So you're gonna I mean
Speaker 2: a guy within you know, there's nobody within six feet
Speaker 2: of it. So he's basically this is a walk through
Speaker 2: for him, just a shoot around practice for him.
Speaker 4: He's gonna knock that more time than not. Give a
Speaker 4: guy of that caliber.
Speaker 2: You make it seem like you you you, you you
Speaker 2: leaving together the twelfth guy on the bench open. He's
Speaker 2: a starter, he's an All Star, and you're gonna show him.
Speaker 2: You're gonna basically, and he said, you know he's Uh.
Speaker 2: Steve Kurk said, our strategy, that was our strategy going
Speaker 2: to the game with the sag off someone Okay, Jaylen
Speaker 2: Brown says, oh, I hope other teams use that strategy.
Speaker 2: That's disrespectful that a man of his caliber that you say,
Speaker 2: you know what, We're not gonna even guard you.
Speaker 4: It's embarrassing.
Speaker 1: I remember, uh when I used to play and you know,
Speaker 1: we had Jared Jefferies, you know, in the court and
Speaker 1: they'll double off him and I'll pass it and he
Speaker 1: wouldn't shoot the ball. And you know, when you get frustrated,
Speaker 1: you you say some things you don't supposed to say.
Speaker 1: And you know I yelled at him, you daphing Baum
Speaker 1: like yo, you you are NBA player and you letting
Speaker 1: them come off you to come double me. Oh come on, man,
Speaker 1: you gotta take some pride.
Speaker 4: I don't give a shit if you kick the ball
Speaker 4: in the stand. At this point, you better do something
Speaker 4: because it's just this.
Speaker 1: You are a NBA player and they doubling off you.
Speaker 1: Ain't no way you gonna go leave me as an
Speaker 1: NBA player to go double another NBA player.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna feel disrespected. Yeah, And that's how everybody should
Speaker 4: take this.
Speaker 1: Ben Simmons, Ain't no way You're gonna sit at the
Speaker 1: free throw line on me.
Speaker 4: I'm a run jump, I'm a you gonna.
Speaker 1: You better take a charge of the free thrown because
Speaker 1: I'm coming right and I I don't think enough players
Speaker 1: take fright into shooting right.
Speaker 4: Yes, the fact that.
Speaker 1: You can just leave your man and go we're gonna
Speaker 1: sag off him like he ain't that dude?
Speaker 4: Right? And I'm glad Jaylen Brown all right, I got
Speaker 4: you gonna you're gonna sag He's gonna yeah this nineteen
Speaker 4: make you pay?
Speaker 2: Yeah, he got He's got to make him pay. I
Speaker 2: think the thing is gil the biggest problem with say
Speaker 2: Ben Simmons, it's not that Ben Simmons can't shoot. He's
Speaker 2: afraid to shoot. And see, if you're afraid to do something,
Speaker 2: I can't teach you how to do it. You see
Speaker 2: if I'm if you're afraid of the water, I can't
Speaker 2: teach you how to swim. If you afraid of animals,
Speaker 2: you can't be a veterinarian. If you're afraid of blood,
Speaker 2: how you become a doctor?
Speaker 4: Ben?
Speaker 2: I don't know how Ben Simmons, because he was so
Speaker 2: great at everything else that Oh and see, I thought
Speaker 2: every coach he's had, because they kicked it down the road.
Speaker 2: His middle school coaching that kicked out and said, when
Speaker 2: you get to high school, they'll teach him how to shoot.
Speaker 2: And when he an AAU, when he gets to college,
Speaker 2: they'll teach him how to shoot. And when they got
Speaker 2: to hell, we only got him a year. Hell, they're
Speaker 2: gonna have him for ten fifteen years in the NBA.
Speaker 2: Let them. So everybody kick the can.
Speaker 4: Down the road. And here we are.
Speaker 2: We got an NBA player that was an All Star,
Speaker 2: that was a Rookie of the Year, that was an
Speaker 2: All Defensive player, who was a budget and Defensive Player
Speaker 2: of the Year. And he can't shoot no better than
Speaker 2: I can't not hating shout of basketball in thirty years
Speaker 2: because he's afraid kill.
Speaker 1: I've watched him three summers on he can shoot the
Speaker 1: ball like he can shoot the ball, like.
Speaker 4: The mechanics is good.
Speaker 1: Feet his feet placement is good, especially for a left
Speaker 1: handed guy.
Speaker 4: He doesn't have that. We'll go to the side shot
Speaker 4: like that. Yet.
Speaker 1: I think it's his depth perception. I think it's off
Speaker 1: because you know, in a smaller gym, so that happened.
Speaker 4: That happened.
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's a football thing, but in
Speaker 1: the NBA, yeah, some players are excellent shooters in small gym.
Speaker 1: When you put him in an arena, for some reason,
Speaker 1: they can't gauge that that basket no more right when
Speaker 1: they get into the game.
Speaker 4: It's too far for them, so they.
Speaker 1: Don't know how to gauge, which I tell I tell guys, yo,
Speaker 1: as much as you practice in the gym, the practice gym,
Speaker 1: you need to go into the arena too. You can
Speaker 1: you can see how be large and feel the space,
Speaker 1: because that's a real thing.
Speaker 4: And I think that's actually his problem because when it.
Speaker 1: Comes to shooting, I'm sitting there, I'm like, the boy
Speaker 1: can shoot the ball like he can shoot the ball.
Speaker 4: But when any game, I'm like, what's going on here?
Speaker 2: I think I think some of the things that well
Speaker 2: considering that because like outdoors, everything is outdoors, so the
Speaker 2: space is the same outdoors, and maybe it's a little
Speaker 2: different than the dome. Sometimes you can lose the ball
Speaker 2: up in the lights, and especially at night, the ball
Speaker 2: gets you know, and so that's why we did a
Speaker 2: lot of walkthroughs that we played the night game. We
Speaker 2: always did a walk through the night before the game
Speaker 2: or at some point time, so to get our eyes
Speaker 2: used to light, looking up in the light and catching
Speaker 2: it because it's different. Same thing with the sun, sometimes
Speaker 2: you get a glare, but at night it's a little
Speaker 2: different because there's light that's lighting up the stadium, and
Speaker 2: so you have to be able to adjust to the ball.
Speaker 4: And plus it's dark.
Speaker 2: It's you know, just like anything it's it gets up
Speaker 2: on you, so you you you know, your vision has
Speaker 2: to be really you have to be really focused to
Speaker 2: play at night because the ball is still the same size.
Speaker 4: They don't inflake the ball to the ball get bigger
Speaker 4: so you can.
Speaker 2: See it at night, and so you have to like
Speaker 2: hone in I really tried to pick the ball up
Speaker 2: coming out of the quarterback's hand. Now that wasn't always
Speaker 2: the case because sometimes I had defenders into in front
Speaker 2: of me, and a lot of times the ball was
Speaker 2: coming over my shoulder so I had to track it
Speaker 2: and look it in. But I just think the thing
Speaker 2: you have to deal with him is that maybe he
Speaker 2: and I've seen him in open runs too, and he's
Speaker 2: shooting the ball, but something happened. Maybe it's stage fright,
Speaker 2: and you know, some people get on the stage and
Speaker 2: they're like and maybe that's what it is with him
Speaker 2: because at sixteen, and he could and he could do everything.
Speaker 4: He can handle the ball, he could defend.
Speaker 2: He had decent post up game, not great, but I mean,
Speaker 2: when you're sixteen, it shouldn't be that hard to post up,
Speaker 2: especially guys that you're gonna be posting up because most
Speaker 2: of them are going to be smaller than you. But
Speaker 2: he lost it somewhere. But the Golden State they got
Speaker 2: issues because really they are are two. You know, I
Speaker 2: look at Kaminga, Kmminga's really coming into his own and
Speaker 2: step and step So we don't need to offer an
Speaker 2: explanation for Steph.
Speaker 4: He had one of those games and he hadn't had
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 2: Guys don't have like him, don't have guys to have
Speaker 2: games like that.
Speaker 4: Often kaminga.
Speaker 2: I love his game, but when you look at it,
Speaker 2: what are we really talking about? Draymond is not the
Speaker 2: offensive threat. Looney plays limited minutes. Moody still is searching,
Speaker 2: that's still looking for him to find his game. What's
Speaker 2: the young guy pause? I forget his name, but anyway,
Speaker 2: but what are we really talking about? I mean, they
Speaker 2: seem like, oh, if they get this scribe, they're not
Speaker 2: gonna get this scride. They are what they are. They
Speaker 2: got one superstar and that's stuff.
Speaker 1: Moody's looking for his game like Yo Chat, looking for Oho.
Speaker 4: He ain't coming. He ain't coming, y'all.
Speaker 1: This is what just stuck with right here right the
Speaker 1: Golden State Warriors. The only reason we say they have
Speaker 1: a chance is because of Curry, right.
Speaker 4: That see it?
Speaker 1: Because Perky brings it out of us to always give
Speaker 1: them a shot. But for the part, Play is not
Speaker 1: himself anymore. He got put to the bench. Wiggins don't
Speaker 1: know if he wants to be America or if he
Speaker 1: want to go back to Canada, because for the most
Speaker 1: part he's there half the season.
Speaker 2: With whatever he got some personal that he got some
Speaker 2: going Gill, we don't know what he got going on.
Speaker 4: He got going on.
Speaker 1: Maybe most likely if it's if it has to do
Speaker 1: because this happened last year. Maybe Pops is in trouble again.
Speaker 1: So you know, I'm uh, you know, I do you know,
Speaker 1: pray for you know, uh Wiggins. But before this even happened,
Speaker 1: he wasn't doing shit anyway.
Speaker 4: This is right.
Speaker 1: So but for the most part, the team is done right.
Speaker 1: You don't as we know it, Clay.
Speaker 2: Clay could have a game here up there, and every
Speaker 2: time he has one of that game, oh here comes Clay.
Speaker 2: If he consummoners this, if he can do this, say
Speaker 2: for the next thirty games. Hell, if he could, we
Speaker 2: wouldn't be asking him to do it for the next
Speaker 2: thirty game. It would be a given. When do we
Speaker 2: ever before, when would we ever question Clay? We never
Speaker 2: questioned Clay because we know what he was. We know
Speaker 2: what he was gonna give us. He was gonna give
Speaker 2: us somewhere between twenty and twenty five. He's gonna be
Speaker 2: forty plus percent from the three point line, and he
Speaker 2: wasn't gonna be We weren't gonna be out.
Speaker 4: There on a hope and a prayer that he has
Speaker 4: a great game.
Speaker 2: There's a reason why he got He's a four time
Speaker 2: NBA champion, he's an All Star and he's been relegated
Speaker 2: to the bench because of it inconsistent play. And so
Speaker 2: now you're gonna ask him to win. He gave you
Speaker 2: thirty or he gives you thirty five. Man, if he
Speaker 2: can just do it. If he could, he wouldn't be
Speaker 2: on the bench. He wouldn't be coming off the bitch.
Speaker 4: Gil. Now, I think it shows, you know, just for
Speaker 4: just for just hoop fans out there, it.
Speaker 1: Shows how fast you can lose confidence in yourself.
Speaker 4: It's not like he does not shoot the same amount
Speaker 4: of shocks.
Speaker 1: To put in extra words saying it's the same routine,
Speaker 1: same thing, the mental has changed. He's questioned his ability,
Speaker 1: right if we don't know if it was a move,
Speaker 1: something happened on the floor, something happened in the media,
Speaker 1: something happened now. But he questioned his greatness, and you
Speaker 1: can see the reflection, and you can see that it
Speaker 1: hasn't came back.
Speaker 4: Same thing that happened to Russ.
Speaker 1: Russ went from averaging a triple double, came here, god booed,
Speaker 1: and we never.
Speaker 4: Seen in the same rust again. Right right, Yeah, you
Speaker 4: get people we lose it, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: It does.
Speaker 2: But I think the thing is people like, well, hey,
Speaker 2: you see how Russ is playing. Well, look, Russ is
Speaker 2: playing on a minimum contract. The numbers he's given you
Speaker 2: on a minimum contract is fine. But when a guy's
Speaker 2: making forty plus million dollars the number that he's given you,
Speaker 2: that wasn't acceptable. I don't know why people don't understand that.
Speaker 2: It's not like and Russ what Russ is a top
Speaker 2: seventy five player, He's an All star, two time All
Speaker 2: Star MVP, he's a League MVP.
Speaker 4: His resume is complete. But let's not kid ourselves.
Speaker 2: Because and he was willing to accept the role in
Speaker 2: Click for the Clippers that he was never willing to
Speaker 2: accept for the Laker. Hey on, they tried it. They
Speaker 2: tried to get him to come off the bench, and
Speaker 2: he was unaccepting up that role. But I guess because
Speaker 2: he looked at him says, the guys that you want
Speaker 2: me to come off the bench for aren't better than me,
Speaker 2: That are starting fact, And so I guess he looked
Speaker 2: at it, and so I guess he's looking at it like, Okay,
Speaker 2: James Harden is better at this point in time.
Speaker 4: James Hard is better than I am.
Speaker 2: But I think Terrence Man, Terrence man ain't better than
Speaker 2: is Terrence Man. I mean, he gives you more. He
Speaker 2: can rebound, he could defend better than Russ. But Russ
Speaker 2: didn't give the Lakers what he gave. But maybe it's price.
Speaker 2: Maybe because we looked at what he's making forty plus
Speaker 2: million dollars a year, you expected him to give you.
Speaker 4: Twenty ten and eight.
Speaker 2: But how are you gonna give you that because he's
Speaker 2: not gonna get those shots because Lebron and Ad are
Speaker 2: first and second option.
Speaker 4: Na see. I think the problem when it came to
Speaker 4: Russ is this.
Speaker 1: You know, when he came here, right, he was expected
Speaker 1: to be the third option, right, Lebron and Ad was
Speaker 1: heard for most of that year. He played seventy seven games.
Speaker 1: He was the only star out of the three that
Speaker 1: really played and held the healthy tam up. And because
Speaker 1: of that, he got the backlash because we wasn't gonna
Speaker 1: say that about Lebron or Andy Davis because they were champions.
Speaker 4: So we said, all right, we're gonna give it to you. Russ.
Speaker 4: Him getting well what at home, the kind of really
Speaker 4: was unfair to him.
Speaker 2: But what if he'd gave us okay, he used to
Speaker 2: be what if he'd gave us what he gave the
Speaker 2: Thunder give us thirty a knight? Because you said he's
Speaker 2: the number one option, so there's no Lebron, there's no
Speaker 2: ad on most nights. How about he give us what
Speaker 2: he gave Okac, Now there's your opportunity to give us
Speaker 2: twenty eight thirty a night.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that playbook is made That playbook was made
Speaker 1: for him.
Speaker 4: This playbook is not made for him.
Speaker 1: Right, There's a lot of factors that factored in. And
Speaker 1: you know, so the following year, he's the only one
Speaker 1: that played seventy.
Speaker 4: Seven, played well, played well. And then he said come
Speaker 4: off the bench. And he's like to who, right, who?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 4: Who you want me? I think that's the hardest thing
Speaker 4: in the locker room that I don't know about. But
Speaker 4: I'm not coming off the bench of these guys right.
Speaker 1: Here, you know, so you know, coming to the Clippers,
Speaker 1: it's not him or Terrence Man, it's him. And James
Speaker 1: Harden's like, all right, with all of us out here.
Speaker 4: We're a little too small. We need more movement. Okay, okay,
Speaker 4: I do it? Take the back seat fellas he and
Speaker 4: he did it. I mean, you know, it's like.
Speaker 2: Hey, I don't know if tyl lu because of his accomplishments,
Speaker 2: it's hard to let me thinking about it. Now, we're
Speaker 2: talking about a guy that's the top seventy five. We
Speaker 2: talk about a guy that's an MVP on an All
Speaker 2: Star Game with all NBA player multiple times and you said, nah, bro,
Speaker 2: you going to the bench?
Speaker 4: He had you.
Speaker 2: And I think the thing is he embraced the role.
Speaker 2: He accepted the role. Give him credit. I wanted i'd
Speaker 2: be the first because I did a good job of
Speaker 2: beating him up because I didn't think he played well.
Speaker 2: I thought he played okay. Everybody said eighteen seven and seven,
Speaker 2: but for that's not I don't think the Lakers would
Speaker 2: look out. I thought there was I think the Lakers
Speaker 2: thought they were gonna get twenty plus. I think that's
Speaker 2: what they thought they were gonna get.
Speaker 4: No, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: It's one of those things where I don't think they
Speaker 1: came into the season really normal that I knew it
Speaker 1: was gonna be a clash because him and Bron played
Speaker 1: the same stock.
Speaker 4: I knew it wouldn't work. Oh, Jill I said, Jill.
Speaker 2: I went on there and said, look, I'm sorry. You know, guys,
Speaker 2: y'all know I feel about the Lakers, but it ain't
Speaker 2: gonna work.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it ain't. Yeah, you can.
Speaker 2: Both guys need the ball in their hand to be
Speaker 2: who they are, their absolute best. Both guys need the
Speaker 2: ball in their hands. And you tell me the team
Speaker 2: that Lebron James been on, and he ain't got the
Speaker 2: ball in his hands eighty five ninety percent of the time.
Speaker 1: And then that's why I always say he's the point guard.
Speaker 1: You know, we we didn't to pretend that he's a
Speaker 1: small ford. No, he's a point guard. He always yes,
Speaker 1: the two guards with him is the two and the three.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that road right?
Speaker 1: So yeah, you know, Russell couldn't play traditional too, so
Speaker 1: it kind of messed his game up, right, because in
Speaker 1: order to play with Lebron, you're gonna have to be
Speaker 1: able to shoot the ball because he's gonna have the ball.
Speaker 2: So you making all the plays and doing what he did.
Speaker 2: And let's just say and ok se, obviously it was
Speaker 2: he and KD, but he was the playmaker. KD leaves
Speaker 2: He's he's outstanding. He takes his game to another level.
Speaker 2: Even with James Harden, he still found the way that
Speaker 2: the average twenty five, twenty five and seven. It wasn't
Speaker 2: like it wasn't like he was slouch in there and
Speaker 2: James needed a ball And that was when James was
Speaker 2: going crazy. That was that was James. That was James
Speaker 2: Hard at his absolute peak. And then he goes to
Speaker 2: Washington in that Averager triple double for a year. So
Speaker 2: so for him, he like, don't I don't really wear hats,
Speaker 2: but if I had, when I take my hat off
Speaker 2: to it, because it's not easy to be as credentialed
Speaker 2: as he is and accepting of a role when you believe,
Speaker 2: and I believe Russ believed that he's a starter. Yeah
Speaker 2: of course, but he says, you know what, this is
Speaker 2: what's best for the team, and every a lot of.
Speaker 4: A lot of gills.
Speaker 2: Everybody can't do that. See everybody, you know this gill.
Speaker 2: Everybody like, I just want to win, Yeah, but I
Speaker 2: want to win my weight. I want to win it
Speaker 2: my weight.
Speaker 4: So that's so that's a caveat. I ain't gonna tell
Speaker 4: you that. Man. I just want to be somewhere I
Speaker 4: can win, yes, but I need to I.
Speaker 1: Think that's between it, like where Russ is and where
Speaker 1: Clay is is.
Speaker 4: I think Clay.
Speaker 1: Is where Russ was last year, or to okay with
Speaker 1: the Lakers coming off the bench wasn't his idea, right,
Speaker 1: This wasn't his idea. Oh I need to come. This
Speaker 1: was the team's idea. So now he has to try
Speaker 1: to try to accept this role. Right if I'm if
Speaker 1: I'm the coach those last fifteen games, I really need
Speaker 1: to sit back and think about the chess move here,
Speaker 1: and the chess move here is do I shut Curry down?
Speaker 1: Give him at sixty five games, but for the most
Speaker 1: part shut him down.
Speaker 4: Draymond shut down.
Speaker 1: Claye Comminger, though, cause I need if I'm gonna bring
Speaker 1: Clay back, I need Clay mentally focused, mentally prepared and
Speaker 1: ready for next season.
Speaker 2: I ain't bringing it back at twenty four million. Yeil
Speaker 2: what two year? Twenty four yoh? Yeah, know what I'm saying. No,
Speaker 2: not twenty four a year. I got myself. Come on,
Speaker 2: come on, already paid it. Already gave twenty million. I gave,
Speaker 2: I gave, I paid it for what he did. Now
Speaker 2: I gotta pay it for what I believe you're gonna do.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, that's not how I work on No, this
Speaker 1: ain't no hell no, hell no you paying me? You
Speaker 1: paying me for what I did. That's how the NBA works, damn.
Speaker 1: So when I get when I get drafted, when I
Speaker 1: get drafted the number one pick, that's not what I'm doing.
Speaker 1: That's what I did, what I did from elementary, junior, high,
Speaker 1: high school, college, That's what I was rewarded for.
Speaker 4: What I do. The next four years, I'm gonna get
Speaker 4: the next deal.
Speaker 1: So my contract right here is I got a championship,
Speaker 1: then I twenty so I got hurt a couple of times.
Speaker 4: So forty eight million is cool.
Speaker 1: I think we get confused, somebody. It ain't about what
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do. Got damn because whatever I do moving forward,
Speaker 1: my contract is.
Speaker 4: Gonna reflunck it that.
Speaker 2: Well I should have played I should I should have
Speaker 2: played basketball in that damn she ain't had working football football.
Speaker 2: Say look here, we already paid you. We paid you
Speaker 2: for those Pro Bowls on All Pros or Super Bowl down.
Speaker 2: What do I think you can give me over the
Speaker 2: next two to three years that's going to jump justify
Speaker 2: the compensation that you're seeking.
Speaker 4: But back to the Celtics.
Speaker 2: The Celtics have won their last five games by an
Speaker 2: average of thirty point two points a game. And we
Speaker 2: talked about last last week on First Take, and I said.
Speaker 4: The Celtics are in a class by of their own
Speaker 4: and Steven A. Perk Off.
Speaker 2: Perk quick to say, man, you need to watch more games. Well,
Speaker 2: I don't know what TV you got, but I want
Speaker 2: to know who you think like right now, the way
Speaker 2: they're playing. I'm talking about right now now when it
Speaker 2: gets to the playoffs, all best of off. But the
Speaker 2: question was right now.
Speaker 4: And they are.
Speaker 1: They're the only team right now playing like an NBA champion. Yes,
Speaker 1: I mean from you know how Denver looked last year,
Speaker 1: that's how That's how Boston looks right now.
Speaker 2: Their c never looked like that last night against Lakers,
Speaker 2: though they were looked like that last night against the Lakers,
Speaker 2: especially in the thirty fourth quarter.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So Boston's been playing fair, very very consistent, very dominant,
Speaker 1: right they have.
Speaker 4: They've been dominating teams.
Speaker 1: Yes, so they're already in championship stride right Uh. The
Speaker 1: rest of the field needs to catch up behind them,
Speaker 1: will probably be Denver, you know, because champion and they
Speaker 1: know when to turn it on and turn it off
Speaker 1: and then from there.
Speaker 2: To be honest, it's a roll of dice and gil.
Speaker 2: That's why I say the Lakers, and look, I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't feel that.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 2: I haven't seen anything from the Lakers that convinced me
Speaker 2: they can beat Denver in a seven game series. But
Speaker 2: everybody else in the West, the Lakers can be the
Speaker 2: seven game series.
Speaker 4: And that's what I'm saying, the seven game series.
Speaker 2: Yes, the West is open that like you.
Speaker 4: As a Laker fan, we don't want Denver. No, we
Speaker 4: do not want no, hell no, not hell no.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 2: We gotta we gotta looking see okay dinner. They're in
Speaker 2: the third part right now. So I actually I don't
Speaker 2: want to be in the sixth spot.
Speaker 4: I don't WoT that. Nah, you know you, somebody somebody
Speaker 4: else left, somebody else deal with them. We want to
Speaker 4: get Denver in the same place we got them last
Speaker 4: in Western Conference.
Speaker 1: Final, and hopefully that happened before we get to them.
Speaker 1: Other than that, it's all placing right. Everyone's beatable in
Speaker 1: the West besides Denver. You know, when when the way
Speaker 1: the offense runs, the way they click as a unit.
Speaker 4: You know, it clutched onbelieve they know what they're doing.
Speaker 2: How many times, yo, did you with the clock running down,
Speaker 2: go hit the shot?
Speaker 4: He shooting from back here? How many times he gonna
Speaker 4: do that?
Speaker 2: We saw that three or four times last year in
Speaker 2: the Western Conference Finals gainst the Lakers.
Speaker 4: But he gil, you got to explain to him, Look,
Speaker 4: this is what we know.
Speaker 2: And maybe there's some a little correlation, a little carryover
Speaker 2: between the NBA and in an NFL. If you give
Speaker 2: a quarterback a steady diet of anything, he'll eat it up. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't know why. Okay, you said, you know what,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna throw him a curveball. I'm gonna start ruin.
Speaker 2: Oh yo, kids, but you're gonna do that, damn near
Speaker 2: the whole game. And you don't think that man gonna
Speaker 2: figure it out. He gonna get down to that block,
Speaker 2: he gonna walk him back and then hey, he gonna
Speaker 2: pump fake and did he go up and on either.
Speaker 4: Left or right? You know what makes you know? What
Speaker 4: makes your kidch good?
Speaker 1: And because one, he's a team he's a team guy. Yes,
Speaker 1: So the fact that he's a team guy, his first
Speaker 1: instinct is the past. Yeah, because he is a dominant
Speaker 1: big down low with the posts moves. He can be
Speaker 1: selfish too, So if he if he wanted to score fifty,
Speaker 1: there's no one really gonna stop him.
Speaker 4: No, no one's gonna stop him from scoring fifty.
Speaker 1: So when we're looking at his stats, and he is
Speaker 1: really playing games with everybody, and that's the thing that
Speaker 1: because he is smart enough to understand, I'm gonna throw
Speaker 1: some passes here, I'm gonna do a little bit of
Speaker 1: scoring here, it's really hard to figure out which mode is.
Speaker 1: You're gonna really have to go to analytics to see
Speaker 1: what time he tries to score when he likes to pass.
Speaker 1: Other than that, if you're just playing him naturally, you're
Speaker 1: you're just You're just He's just a puppet master with you.
Speaker 1: He's just sitting there, just sitting here doing this. He's
Speaker 1: he's you Pinocchio, and he's the the the the doc
Speaker 1: on your pedal time. Yeah, yeah, yeah, And that's what
Speaker 1: he's doing with everybody. I think, and and look, and
Speaker 1: I didn't expect Michael Porter the first guy to take
Speaker 1: attim the least ten shots, shoot one hundred percent attim
Speaker 1: the least five threes shoot.
Speaker 4: One hundred percent. Hue free throws and shoot one hundred percent.
Speaker 2: He's the first guy in NBA history to have that
Speaker 2: stat line.
Speaker 4: That's impressive. That's very impressive. Uh. The most impressive thing
Speaker 4: from Michael porter Drew.
Speaker 1: He had four a sis stop he passed he had
Speaker 1: four this yes, no, what what he passed us? That's
Speaker 1: one man that you know. Once it touched his hands
Speaker 1: and was going up. So when I looked at the
Speaker 1: state line, I said, Forward says, oh man, he was
Speaker 1: on fire.
Speaker 2: He was on fire and U And the thing was
Speaker 2: is that when the Lakers had a run was going
Speaker 2: in the first, he kept him close because he was
Speaker 2: just coming down, letting them threes go where the Lakers
Speaker 2: could have probably built a fifteen to twenty point lead.
Speaker 2: Every time they got double digits, he boomed back to eight.
Speaker 2: They get up to fourteen, boom, boom, boom, and now
Speaker 2: he hit five quick points and now he's back down
Speaker 2: to a nine point game.
Speaker 4: So he kept them attacked.
Speaker 2: And then in the third he picked right up where
Speaker 2: he left off in the first half. Now yo gets
Speaker 2: it go and now he says, okay, now it's time
Speaker 2: for me to cert myself and then in the fourth
Speaker 2: you get Murray. Now they go to the two man game.
Speaker 2: Now they're about to pick and roll you. Now Murray's
Speaker 2: from the dragon pull you. He fin the go and
Speaker 2: come bobo bop.
Speaker 4: And now all of a sudden, he come yo doing
Speaker 4: all this and he goes.
Speaker 2: He lobbed at the Gordon and then Gordon hits a three,
Speaker 2: and then Murray and then a porter hits another three.
Speaker 2: That they execute so well because down down the stretch
Speaker 2: there is nothing that they can't get because of yoke.
Speaker 4: You come with the double team. He sees it.
Speaker 2: He's gonna kick the open guy. Now it's just a
Speaker 2: matter of they knock it down or not. Now Murray says, okay,
Speaker 2: you and I go to the pick and roll the
Speaker 2: dribble handoff you know, uh he yoke roll to the
Speaker 2: basket or Murray Keasey goes all the way to the basket. Yo,
Speaker 2: can pomp? I mean, so you're kind of at the mercy.
Speaker 2: It's just like man, I sure hope they off the
Speaker 2: night and they're missing shot because they're not. With the
Speaker 2: way he's playing and the way he can pass the
Speaker 2: ball and see the floor.
Speaker 4: What you gonna do? You know?
Speaker 1: When when when you're talking about the last four or
Speaker 1: five minutes with them, and that's where the.
Speaker 4: Lakers lost it.
Speaker 1: They lost it in the last yes, because they're playing
Speaker 1: team basketball in the last three minutes, right, they're picking
Speaker 1: the bat. We know what the Laker's gonna do. Lebron's
Speaker 1: gonna come. He gonna set a pick and roll, try
Speaker 1: to get the ISO. Maybe look at his hand a
Speaker 1: couple of.
Speaker 4: Times, hit the Michael Jackson glove and then he gonna
Speaker 4: shoot the three or try to move off that. Now
Speaker 4: Lebron himself has to play perfect.
Speaker 1: You have to make yes, yes, seventy percent of your
Speaker 1: shots in the last five minutes. Well, when it comes
Speaker 1: to Denver, Jokis can go one for one but have
Speaker 1: five assists.
Speaker 4: Correct in that last five minutes, Murray can be four
Speaker 4: for five.
Speaker 1: You got we got three offensive rebounds and putbacks. So
Speaker 1: when it comes to the last five minutes, they're all
Speaker 1: playing together and doing what they do best, crashing the boards, diving, slashing, popping, rolling,
Speaker 1: hosting up, getting to the free throw line, and it's it's.
Speaker 4: Really beautiful basketball. I'm not even gonna lie. When it
Speaker 4: comes to you have to think Calvin booth like he
Speaker 4: was on my team.
Speaker 1: We used to talk basketball, we used to talk strategy,
Speaker 1: and when you look at the lineup.
Speaker 4: It is how he thought the game. He thought the game.
Speaker 1: From this aspect, and you can't see it play out
Speaker 1: very well.
Speaker 2: Right, it's just uh. And the guy that guys played
Speaker 2: played very very well.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: They needed a little bit more from a d Ad
Speaker 2: only had seventeen points. He missed some easy he missed
Speaker 2: some easy with last night. But I can't even beat
Speaker 2: a d up because AD has been playing unbelievable. I
Speaker 2: just didn't like Darvin Ham's rotation last night. I don't
Speaker 2: know why you benched d Low. The man has he
Speaker 2: had a little offshooting night, So now you're gonna send
Speaker 2: him to the bench.
Speaker 4: Yeah damn.
Speaker 2: I mean what about all all the night that he
Speaker 2: been averaging like twenty five.
Speaker 4: And so now he has one.
Speaker 2: He had a little stretch, He goes like five minutes,
Speaker 2: he doesn't hit any three. He had a couple of lipouts,
Speaker 2: Like come on, bro, this is the problem.
Speaker 1: You put him on the bench for who cam the
Speaker 1: nineteen minutes three shots?
Speaker 2: Come on, I might as well put de Loo in.
Speaker 2: But right, and and it wasn't like he was stopping Murray.
Speaker 2: So I can I can leave you in. I could
Speaker 2: take d Low out if you're got a neutralized Murray.
Speaker 2: But if Murray's getting whatever you want, hell, I can
Speaker 2: put d Loe in because Delo's gonna at least gonna
Speaker 2: give me something on the opposite end.
Speaker 1: And that's all that. When I'm playing Denver, that's all
Speaker 1: I'm thinking. See, I think they get wrapped up into
Speaker 1: we have to stop them. Well, the problem with this
Speaker 1: is this is not an individual stop.
Speaker 4: This is team defense.
Speaker 1: So that means Cam Prince, they have no they have
Speaker 1: no skin in this part of the game. Right, So
Speaker 1: Denver's thinking offense, right, you have to think matching it
Speaker 1: because who's a great defensive player on On Denver, no
Speaker 1: one ever talks about their defense.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean kcp is they're really their guy, and
Speaker 2: bron the guy out of Kansas. But they play. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but they don't have Jok is not a shop blocker.
Speaker 2: He's a deflector. He's gonna use his hands. He's gonna
Speaker 2: kick a lot of balls. He gonna get his hand
Speaker 2: and deflect some balls. But other than that, they don't
Speaker 2: have guys that can guard they don't have perimeter defenders
Speaker 2: like a like a PG in his prime or like
Speaker 2: a Kawhi. They don't have those type of guys Lebron
Speaker 2: Kobe God that could sit sit in the chair.
Speaker 4: They don't have They don't have guys like that.
Speaker 2: But but they got guys that say, you know what,
Speaker 2: we'll take our offensive guys, Yoke Murray, uh Porter Junior,
Speaker 2: we'll take our big three and although we might give
Speaker 2: up something as far as lateral quickness, we're gonna punish
Speaker 2: you on the offensive end.
Speaker 4: So you bet not miss Yeah. And that's a thing.
Speaker 1: They're going offense, which they know, well, you're gonna go defense,
Speaker 1: so you're gonna take away half of.
Speaker 4: Your points anyway, right, you know.
Speaker 1: And that's the thing I've been trying to preach to
Speaker 1: some of these guys, like those days of having that
Speaker 1: offensive that defensive guy in that can't score is really
Speaker 1: a liability.
Speaker 4: Right. Look at look at what Goden State tried.
Speaker 1: They tried to sag and sit back on three hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty million.
Speaker 4: What the hell you?
Speaker 1: Then they're gonna do the Prince and what's the name
Speaker 1: they gonna they're not gonna respect them. So the fact
Speaker 1: that they tried it with Jalen Brown. You need to
Speaker 1: put offense in the tax to tax these butts out here.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Uh.
Speaker 2: Perkins demands that the Lakers build a statue for Lebron.
Speaker 2: I mean, get ready to start scooping the statue for
Speaker 2: Lebron outside Crypto dot com.
Speaker 4: Marena, that's what, okay, forty.
Speaker 2: Thousand points done in the Laker uniform, passing Marene, when
Speaker 2: he passed him up in the Lakers uniform, winning an
Speaker 2: NBA championship in the Lakers uniform?
Speaker 4: What else can I say about the man?
Speaker 2: Lebron also admits that the Lakers the Nuggets have their
Speaker 2: number and are the So I'm gonna ask you, do
Speaker 2: you believe the Nuggets are the first of all, let's
Speaker 2: get to what Perk said. Do you believe the Lakers
Speaker 2: will build a statue for Lebron if.
Speaker 4: His career started right now? Hell on now?
Speaker 1: No, he don't have enough. He don't have enough accolades
Speaker 1: in the Laker uniform right this ain't this needs another title? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you need years. He's only played six years. The closest,
Speaker 1: the closest statue we have with that was with Shack
Speaker 1: Shack eight years was that four rings, no, three ring,
Speaker 1: three years, thirteen thousand points.
Speaker 4: That's the bottom. That's our worst.
Speaker 1: That's the worst when it comes to real accolades with
Speaker 1: that statue.
Speaker 4: So you know, everybody else thirteen fourteen.
Speaker 1: Something years, right, you know, So it's gonna be hard
Speaker 1: to put him in there with six years, eight thousand points,
Speaker 1: one championship, I mean six, six All Stars, five All
Speaker 1: NBA because we ain't finished this season.
Speaker 4: That's not good. That's not good enough for a statue
Speaker 4: in Los Angeles? Right? Are the Nuggets no dangerous? They
Speaker 4: can just put his shoes. They can just start with
Speaker 4: the shoes out there. They could just start with.
Speaker 1: The bronze out there? Are the Nuggets the most dangerous
Speaker 1: team in the West?
Speaker 4: If not? Who is?
Speaker 1: Yes, the most thing? Ooh, the most Okay, that's tricky.
Speaker 1: The most dangerous team is the Clippers because they got
Speaker 1: they got on two, three, four Hall of famers, four
Speaker 1: guys who can average or who can score thirty at
Speaker 1: any moment. They are the most dangerous team. You talk
Speaker 1: about the Clippers, The Clippers are the most I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: the Clippers. They are the most dangerous team due to
Speaker 1: the fact that they have a lot of firepower, not
Speaker 1: saying they can all fire the weapons at the same time,
Speaker 1: but they have the most firepower. The most consistent team,
Speaker 1: the most reliable team is Denver.
Speaker 4: See the thing was, I think hurt the Clippers.
Speaker 2: Jogics would literally average forty twenty and fifteen because they
Speaker 2: got nobody can do anything with you.
Speaker 4: I'm telling about nothing, plumb le zubox. He's follow them out.
Speaker 2: And so now the Nuggets already have competence because they've
Speaker 2: traced this team down now minus Harden, they've chased this
Speaker 2: team down from three to one. And Murray, I don't
Speaker 2: know what it is about the Clippers, but here and no,
Speaker 2: Porter Junior love playing the Clippers because he said they
Speaker 2: passed on him. They flunked him because of that back,
Speaker 2: and he's been punishing them. And I believe he's better
Speaker 2: now than he was then when he started, when he
Speaker 2: got hot.
Speaker 4: And we know what Murray did. I think the final
Speaker 4: game he dropped forty on him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, in that in that game, in that game seven
Speaker 2: and so like I said with yok and no, you
Speaker 2: gotta have somebody. Look, you not gonna stop him, but
Speaker 2: you damn sure better have Somebody's gonna give you twenty five.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know with them, man, it's it's it's just
Speaker 4: you have to match the production. Just Yeah.
Speaker 1: At this point, like Zubac, like for for the Clippers
Speaker 1: who win this, Zubach has to be playing at a
Speaker 1: good level.
Speaker 4: Like I'm Zubac has to average fifteen to.
Speaker 1: Nineteen points in that series, you average fifty. If Zubac
Speaker 1: can average fifteen nineteen that series, we know yokis just
Speaker 1: gonna have anywhere from forty to fifty three all together.
Speaker 1: So if if the Zuba can get around thirty, Clippers
Speaker 1: got a really good chance. Yes, And then you throw
Speaker 1: Plumbly in there. Yeah, if plumbly, because here's the thing.
Speaker 1: What cost the Lakers. Lakers been getting crushed in the glass.
Speaker 1: The Nuggets wipe them on the glass.
Speaker 2: And for a team that has Anthony Davis and Lebron
Speaker 2: and some guys can rebound it, they've been getting out
Speaker 2: rebounded lately. Yeah, and no rings, no rebounds, no rings.
Speaker 2: That's because now you give teams second chance, You give
Speaker 2: teams another crack at the basket at you and some
Speaker 2: a lot of times that might end up in a three.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So you look at Lebron's accomplishments in the Lakers uniform.
Speaker 2: His forty fivesands point game lost to the Nuggets, the
Speaker 2: statue and veiling game between two to twenty four game
Speaker 2: lost to the Nuggets. The game in which he passed
Speaker 2: Kareem lost to the Thunder. I was at that game. Actually,
Speaker 2: I was supposed to be at that game Saturday night,
Speaker 2: but I was in Jersey for the Portie Ain't doing
Speaker 2: some stuff and they lost to the Sixers. When Lebron
Speaker 2: passed Kobe most of his points in this game, you.
Speaker 4: Try what you're trying to say, Hey, hey, we got
Speaker 4: no more we ain't got no more comedic g I'm
Speaker 4: gonna say the next accomplis stream.
Speaker 2: I gotta take the other team. So you trying to
Speaker 2: tell me, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I will break that partly.
Speaker 2: I mean, there's an outside chance he could get to
Speaker 2: eleven thousand assists. Uh what did he got like twenty
Speaker 2: games to go?
Speaker 4: Yeah? What do you?
Speaker 2: And I think I don't know, he might not get it.
Speaker 2: I think he's about think he's about one hundred and
Speaker 2: sixty something. So he was literally after average like eight
Speaker 2: and a half assist the game, which is popular. You
Speaker 2: never say what he can't do yeah, because he'll go
Speaker 2: to the streak and the average ten assist the game.
Speaker 1: Yea that he that he's only you know, a certain
Speaker 1: amount of way he's going to Yes, deemon, time to
Speaker 1: get that.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Uh, Gil, you had.
Speaker 2: A hot take this weekend. You were trending you blame
Speaker 2: the European players for bad defense in the NBA, and
Speaker 2: it went virals. If you stand by your comments that
Speaker 2: the European players are the blame for that, because Wemby says, hey,
Speaker 2: Gill live it, how at your right?
Speaker 4: Quick? Listen? Listen, listen.
Speaker 1: This is the problem we came out of All Star
Speaker 1: weekend about we need to fix defense, right, yes, yes, right, we.
Speaker 4: Need to fix defense. There's something wrong with the defense.
Speaker 1: We need to put in hand checking, we need to
Speaker 1: do three seconds, we need to do all this. We
Speaker 1: need to you know, shorten three point line, make the
Speaker 1: three point line bigger.
Speaker 4: So I just threw in my own little thing. Hey,
Speaker 4: how about this, right, hot fout?
Speaker 1: If you really want to go back to the old
Speaker 1: way of playing basketball, get rid of the people who
Speaker 1: expanded the offense. See, they don't want they want to
Speaker 1: think about Oh my god, he wants to get rid
Speaker 1: of Euro. Think about what the Euro did to the game.
Speaker 1: All the Yeuro centers besides.
Speaker 4: Rudy all can shoot the three.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're not dinosaurs down there, right, So all the
Speaker 1: Yeuro big men can shoot the three. All the Yuro
Speaker 1: power forwards can shoot the three threes.
Speaker 4: Four.
Speaker 1: So the Yuro expanded the game outside in offensively, offensively.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 1: So if you wanted to go back to eighties basketball
Speaker 1: where you have a whole bunch of dudes that can't
Speaker 1: shoot the ball, that could jump in, jump.
Speaker 4: In, do this, well, then get rid of the year road. See,
Speaker 4: they hear what I'm saying, but they don't try to
Speaker 4: put no knowledge into it. Right. But here's the thing, though,
Speaker 4: gil guys works. The guys are so specific now.
Speaker 2: It ain't like for first of all, ain't like no
Speaker 2: American born player playing now defense either, ain't nobody sitting
Speaker 2: in a damn chair because even Kawhi and PG don't
Speaker 2: play defense like they once did once Kawhi got a
Speaker 2: taste that offensive scoring. Because look at when when Kawhi
Speaker 2: Scory started going up here, that defense started coming down here. No,
Speaker 2: it's only been it's only been like three guys three
Speaker 2: that that would win what we consider winging Jordan, Kobe,
Speaker 2: and Lebron because if you look at Lebron when he
Speaker 2: was in Miami and he was winning the MVPs, he
Speaker 2: was first team All Defense. He took that, he took
Speaker 2: d Rose. Go look back at Lebron when he took
Speaker 2: d Rose and d Rose had won the m v P.
Speaker 2: Look at look at Lebron when he took Tony Parker. Yep,
Speaker 2: it locked it. Yeah yeah, God had him logged up,
Speaker 2: would let him out. So Kobe, we know, Kobe a
Speaker 2: nine time All defensive guys Jordan, but we're talking about
Speaker 2: not only just guys, because there are a lot of
Speaker 2: guys that play defense, but they can't give you the
Speaker 2: scory like those guys could. So that's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2: So now we look at American players, ain't know how
Speaker 2: to play.
Speaker 4: First of all.
Speaker 2: Yeah, ain't no way to play in defense anymore because
Speaker 2: ain't nobody making the money.
Speaker 1: So no, it didn't even the fact that nobody's playing defense.
Speaker 1: I think I think the problem is, and where I
Speaker 1: get frustrated, is give credit to the offense. Why can't
Speaker 1: we just give credit to something?
Speaker 4: Right? Yes, right, we give credit to the offense. The
Speaker 4: offense is just a lot better.
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm telling you the year Roses shooting threes
Speaker 1: from the five men position, right, Yes, so it's a
Speaker 1: better position in today's game. Right you got guys shooting
Speaker 1: from damn near half or when some of those players can't.
Speaker 4: Even shoot from the free throw line. Right.
Speaker 1: So when we talk about what the problem is, there's none.
Speaker 4: There's no problem. What. I don't care what you.
Speaker 1: Try to do. You want to play put put? No
Speaker 1: three seconds? What you think that's gonna do? More threes? Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: who you gonna who are you gonna sit in the lane?
Speaker 1: With which which guy the center?
Speaker 4: Bob?
Speaker 1: You have Anti Davis in the three? You're gonna play zone.
Speaker 1: Then it's all five men shooting threes. Like, there's no
Speaker 1: there's no thought process in some of the things. So
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, if you want to just throw out this,
Speaker 1: if it's a thing, then say all right, well we
Speaker 1: can take away five man shooting. We can take away
Speaker 1: all these six ten seven foot shooters if you take
Speaker 1: away the euros.
Speaker 4: But obviously you don't want that to happen, so therefoot
Speaker 4: shut the shut up, I think, yih, I.
Speaker 2: Think also because the game is more open, the players
Speaker 2: are more skilled, because you got probably one through eight
Speaker 2: that could all shoot the ball had them.
Speaker 4: I'm not saying they. I'm not saying that, Steph Curry,
Speaker 4: So don't.
Speaker 2: But for the most part, as you mentioned, with the
Speaker 2: exception of Rudy Gobert, name of five, they can't let
Speaker 2: a three go and shoot it with a level of
Speaker 2: consistency that no that no five could ever shoot in
Speaker 2: the eighties, in the nineties.
Speaker 4: Even in the even in my ear two. Right.
Speaker 2: So now you get guys that are more skilled, that
Speaker 2: are playing in more space, it's harder to defend them
Speaker 2: one on one.
Speaker 4: And when you bring.
Speaker 2: The double, you guys kicking to a guy that could
Speaker 2: shoot better than anybody could with the exceptional maybe five
Speaker 2: guys in the eighties and the nineties, in the early
Speaker 2: two thousand. So what do you expect to happen If
Speaker 2: you can't stay in front of a guy and I
Speaker 2: gotta send help, That guy gonna be right wide open,
Speaker 2: or he's guess what, Gil, he's at the dunker.
Speaker 4: Spot and now when you come, I'll blump it off
Speaker 4: to him. And he dunked the ball on your head.
Speaker 2: Now that's the think are you cover with the help
Speaker 2: and I throw the lobby and then Anthony David boom
Speaker 2: or somebody booming it on you. Now to think about now,
Speaker 2: think when we talk about Denver and Murray, right, when
Speaker 2: Murray does that pick and roll, right, it ain't no
Speaker 2: picking roll, it's a picking pop with the five man.
Speaker 4: Right, So what baby, you're gonna switch out? You're on
Speaker 4: a hard show. What you're gonna do because he's.
Speaker 1: Gonna turn the corner and when he turns the corner
Speaker 1: and you stay popped to your kid, to yo kich
Speaker 1: who's protecting the rim?
Speaker 4: Nobody? Nobody? And if you think about it, here come
Speaker 4: cording it and lobs and for the right. It's just
Speaker 4: a different game.
Speaker 1: So if you want to take away, if you want
Speaker 1: to change it and put more defense in, then you
Speaker 1: have to take away offense.
Speaker 4: And if you're gonna take away offense, you got to
Speaker 4: take away the people who spread of the floor.
Speaker 2: You can't you can't take it away now, No, because
Speaker 2: now guys who don't care about dunky guys are shooting.
Speaker 2: And all the guys that you look at, the guys
Speaker 2: that AAU you don't see no high fly guys are
Speaker 2: shooting the ball.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it used to be guys.
Speaker 2: Getting the ball down on the block and they turn
Speaker 2: around and they you know, now, hey, guys are spacing
Speaker 2: the floor. Everybody can shoot the ball. So the cats
Speaker 2: out the bag. Pandora's box has been open. You can't
Speaker 2: put the toothpaste back into the two. Whatever analogy or
Speaker 2: phrase or cliche you want to use, this is where
Speaker 2: we are right now.
Speaker 1: You know what the real Okay, so this is how
Speaker 1: the game looks. American basketball is ISO one on one, yes, right.
Speaker 4: The Euro is team movement, spread the fall movement.
Speaker 1: So what happens is when the two meet and you
Speaker 1: put a great combo together, it.
Speaker 4: Is hard to stop the American player.
Speaker 1: Now because that American player got euro players to pass
Speaker 1: the two. The euro has athletic guys to throw the
Speaker 1: ball to right. So it is a great combia nation.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 1: So when you when you think about Euros taking over
Speaker 1: the game, they're expanding it.
Speaker 4: Right. If you take Luca, If I say.
Speaker 1: All right, remove Luca six ' nine point guard Unicorn
Speaker 1: to that position, who's the second best Euro guard? Who's
Speaker 1: the best, yeah, yeah, yeah, who's the who's the top
Speaker 1: two Euro shooting guards?
Speaker 4: The threes, right, So.
Speaker 1: They're still they're still deficiency in that because those three
Speaker 1: positions their team style.
Speaker 4: Right. So the American is the star of the one
Speaker 4: on one game and you add team players.
Speaker 1: With them, it makes for great, great teams. So now
Speaker 1: if you're a smart general manager, you have to understand
Speaker 1: how to put your team together.
Speaker 4: Now, like with.
Speaker 1: Sun Goon, Jalen and over there, they.
Speaker 4: Have a nice little combo. Yes, they need some more
Speaker 4: team they.
Speaker 1: Already have a one on one guy, right, you have
Speaker 1: Van Fleet. You get a couple more year rolls on
Speaker 1: that team that can spread the floor and play, or
Speaker 1: just a bunch of a couple more international players that
Speaker 1: can spread the floor and move around. They are going
Speaker 1: to be hard to deal with.
Speaker 2: Victor winm Miyama Wimby made history and president feed over
Speaker 2: the Spurs last two games. After dropping thirty one to
Speaker 2: twelve and six or sis six blocks against the Pacers,
Speaker 2: Winby became the first rookie in league history coord consecutive
Speaker 2: games of twenty five ten rebounds, five or more assists,
Speaker 2: five plus box. On Thursday, Women had twenty eight points,
Speaker 2: thirteen rebounds, seven assents and five blocks. Womben Yama seemingly
Speaker 2: set some sort of history just about every night he
Speaker 2: steps on the court. Since February the twelfth, he's averaging
Speaker 2: twenty four point six alongside the jaw dropping almost six
Speaker 2: blocks a game, five point seven blocks a game. I
Speaker 2: said that the Rookie of the Year was over. He
Speaker 2: would argue with me, I said, do you see what
Speaker 2: this kid is doing? I mean, I'm no, seriously, do
Speaker 2: you see it? First of all, I don't think. Look
Speaker 2: if you came into I don't think first. And they
Speaker 2: need to do away with this. Well, he didn't play,
Speaker 2: but he's getting valuable experience. It's like a guy going
Speaker 2: to college early. It benefits that it helps him, honestly,
Speaker 2: that rookie. But it's been a little different what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Him being going through spring drills, practicing everything. He has
Speaker 2: an advantage over God that doesn't get to come into
Speaker 2: the summer.
Speaker 4: So even though Chet didn't play.
Speaker 2: Like you said, Gil, him being in a meeting room,
Speaker 2: him being on the sideline, him understanding what NBA life
Speaker 2: is about as opposed to winby it's different.
Speaker 4: You can't tell me that didn't help.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that helped because you you were put into
Speaker 1: the system. Strength training, eating routines, learning how to sleep,
Speaker 1: learning when to go, you know, wake up, you know
Speaker 1: you're you have an NBA routine, right, So mentally, mentally,
Speaker 1: you're not a rookie. Rightly, you're not a rookie, right,
Speaker 1: you have established yourself in your room.
Speaker 4: He is a full fledged.
Speaker 1: Rookie coming from another country, learning it day by day, right,
Speaker 1: understanding the west coach trip, going to the East coasture.
Speaker 4: He's learning that all in real time. You've already been
Speaker 4: to that, right, So.
Speaker 1: This is really not a this is not a debatable conversation.
Speaker 1: One you're only looking at because his team is good, right,
Speaker 1: It's not that he is playing like a Rookie of
Speaker 1: the year. His stats plus his team wins.
Speaker 4: Right. What is he the fourth option in that offense? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, because we know Shaye is one for sure,
Speaker 2: and William J.
Speaker 4: Williams is two.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so he's third at best, third at best. Right,
Speaker 2: he's third, third at best.
Speaker 1: So the Rookie of the Year is for sure, winby
Speaker 1: But I.
Speaker 4: Don't know if I'm the only male out here. Tall
Speaker 4: girls are starting to look very.
Speaker 2: Attractive now, yeah, yes, sir, Hey, so you try to
Speaker 2: go back to the drawing board to get you a
Speaker 2: seven eight guy, hot seven eighty.
Speaker 4: I listen, I got one six seven.
Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna I got I was snipped. I
Speaker 1: had to refesal what yoh, No, they got Windy's coming
Speaker 1: in the league. I gotta put my name on one
Speaker 1: of them. I gotta put my name on seven seven.
Speaker 2: Uh, well are you but hey, I don't know you?
Speaker 2: Better go find you a six four six four woman.
Speaker 4: Oh no, Hey, I'm going to the big and Tall store.
Speaker 4: I know I'm at the Big and tall right there.
Speaker 1: Listen, uh a w n b A. I'm looking for
Speaker 1: the old vets. Uh old vets. You know about body
Speaker 1: right there?
Speaker 4: Thirty eight? Oh? They need you know how much they
Speaker 4: got paid. They need this sho support they need so
Speaker 4: they willing to get into the old gilly right.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, hey, I'm the the womby yummies in
Speaker 1: them chests that looks like the future.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know too old model cars they gonna get
Speaker 2: you get your spaceship. Hey, hey, Grandy's just say, boy,
Speaker 2: two dead batteries won't give you a spark.
Speaker 4: Now what I've got, what I've gotta be fine, gil.
Speaker 2: Hey, Tony Brothers hit de jon Ty Murray with a
Speaker 2: technical foul after he was ignored, ignored him during the timeout.
Speaker 2: It looks like they called the timeout. Did jon Tay
Speaker 2: Murray w to sit on the bench? Tony Brothers went
Speaker 2: over to talk to him, and did John Ty Murray
Speaker 2: didn't pay him any attention to ignore it?
Speaker 4: TV ted him up. You got the crazy story.
Speaker 2: What's the craziest take you ever, goy Gill, because this
Speaker 2: reminds me of the one that I forget. What was
Speaker 2: the old guy name that gave Tim Dunkey threw him
Speaker 2: out the game for laughing. That's Crawford, Yeah, Joey Crawford.
Speaker 2: Joey Crawford, Yeah, threw Timmy threw Timmy d out of
Speaker 2: the game for laughing on the sideline.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Uh, all the ones I got I deserved, right, not
Speaker 1: even gonna lie it, right, I'm not even gonna lie
Speaker 1: through the head man at the rep ones, right. I
Speaker 1: got hit NodD threw the head man at him.
Speaker 4: Right. I regret that, I.
Speaker 1: Mean because you know, I couldn't afford that five thousand at.
Speaker 4: The time there was my rookie season. I can afford
Speaker 4: that five thousand at the time. But for the most part,
Speaker 4: you know, I gave.
Speaker 1: Refs respect because I understood. You know, uh, it is difficult,
Speaker 1: right reffing in real time trying to see everything, and
Speaker 1: our job is to you know, you know, players like me, Okay,
Speaker 1: you sitting here, you sitting here, you down there. There's
Speaker 1: certain things that I can do that you can't see
Speaker 1: right right, Like I know you are looking here, he's
Speaker 1: looking there, so I can palm the ball knowing that
Speaker 1: nobody's actually looking at me directly. So sometimes when you
Speaker 1: see players and someone's taking all these extra steps, for
Speaker 1: the most part, they're not looking at the feet, right,
Speaker 1: They're not they're not looking down at the feet. They're
Speaker 1: looking at the catch, his body moved. They're not actually
Speaker 1: looking in real time at at at players feet. So
Speaker 1: it's one of those things where players understanding and where
Speaker 1: these eyes sights are. So you know, when you're talking
Speaker 1: about pettiness, oh man, refs aw Man, I don't like
Speaker 1: shit like this like I like Tony Brothers because usually,
Speaker 1: for the most part, he don't get emotional like this. Right,
Speaker 1: this was an emotional tech and I'm sorry he should
Speaker 1: be fine for that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it looked like, Hey, you called me over
Speaker 2: to have me to explain something. I come over, I walked,
Speaker 2: I walk over here to explain it to you. You
Speaker 2: ignore me once I got here. But it's gonna be interesting.
Speaker 2: It would be interesting to see. I don't know if
Speaker 2: anybody question Tony and ask him why did he give
Speaker 2: the John Tel tech?
Speaker 4: Did he say something?
Speaker 2: What caused first of all, what caused him to go
Speaker 2: over there to carry and have that conversation. And it
Speaker 2: looks like Murray didn't say anything. And if Murray didn't anything,
Speaker 2: why would you tee him up? So it'd be interesting
Speaker 2: if a pool reporter, if somebody asked, why did he
Speaker 2: get a tech?
Speaker 4: I don't know. It hadn't come out yet, so I
Speaker 4: was just think just the You know, it's it's one
Speaker 4: of those things where.
Speaker 1: Because there's this big old rivalry right now between players,
Speaker 1: and you know you have to set an example. We know,
Speaker 1: we know you do penalize the referees. We know you
Speaker 1: take them off certain games, they lose certain privileges.
Speaker 4: We know that, but we don't see it right.
Speaker 1: Even if you don't find Tony, say you did. Tony's
Speaker 1: been fined five thousand for you know, the the unnecessary
Speaker 1: technical against Murray. That right there lets us know they're
Speaker 1: being held accountable. If nothing happens and you do something
Speaker 1: behind the.
Speaker 4: Scenes, what do you think we're thinking?
Speaker 1: Sometimes you sometimes doing something relieve stress. Right, nothing happens
Speaker 1: to Tony brothers his manhood by saying, hey, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: fake like I'm gonna find you for the public, right.
Speaker 4: And I don't think the NBA do that enough.
Speaker 2: Right because when players criticized the officials, they get fine quick.
Speaker 2: So if it got me, I mean yeah, when they
Speaker 2: criticized them in public, they get fined.
Speaker 4: So yeah.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: The crazy I think the craziest penalty that I've ever
Speaker 2: got is that we're playing the Super Bowl and we
Speaker 2: called a play and they called me for a holding
Speaker 2: after TV ran the ball down to the one yard line,
Speaker 2: and to Mike Shanahan's credit, he told official that wasn't
Speaker 2: a hole.
Speaker 4: He was so confident that that wasn't a hole.
Speaker 2: We called the exact same play and I got we
Speaker 2: got the exact same result and TV ran it back
Speaker 2: down to the one yard line from five yards for
Speaker 2: the back. So you should ain't be forgetting five if yards,
Speaker 2: But I mean it was the Super Bowl, bro, that
Speaker 2: could have called that could have cost us the game.
Speaker 2: And now how do I I mean? And you know
Speaker 2: what today's game, today's time, man sharp, you cast the
Speaker 2: Broncos the Super Bowl without holding call you wasn't to tell,
Speaker 2: you know. For the most part, Gil, I kind of
Speaker 2: escaped my career. I did what I did, went to
Speaker 2: the Pro Bowl. We're all pro one through Bowl, didn't
Speaker 2: lose any of the games. And so for the most part,
Speaker 2: I'm pretty good. I'm pretty good in that area. So
Speaker 2: fans can't really say, well, hey, you got to hold
Speaker 2: it call it cost your team a game, or you
Speaker 2: dropped the touchdown in a playoff game that cost.
Speaker 4: Your team a game. So I feel pretty good about that.
Speaker 2: So kudos to mic for believing because I said, Mike,
Speaker 2: I didn't hold it, and you look at the screen.
Speaker 2: I didn't hold him. I didn't have my hands outside.
Speaker 2: My hands was inside. But hey, you know how didn't
Speaker 2: do They turned to the fisher because they couldn't get
Speaker 2: off the block, and he did like this, hed the
Speaker 2: fisher through the flag. Mike called it against him running again.
Speaker 4: He so he sold it. Oh he old he did?
Speaker 2: Beat on your high Yeah, yeah, that was as a
Speaker 2: matter of fact. He the next year he became my
Speaker 2: teammate self joinan her. Oh god, he was in green Bad.
Speaker 2: He was in green Bad at the time we beat him.
Speaker 2: He came over there. Uh, he came to us in
Speaker 2: ninety eight. He went a Super Bowl with us, and
Speaker 2: I think that was his last year. He retired after that.
Speaker 4: Okay,