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Speaker 2: whoo and boys of the joosy.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what they got going on in Boston,

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Speaker 2: on the Warriors. The Celtics beat the Warriors bout fifty two.

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Speaker 2: The Celtics become the first team in NBA history to

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Speaker 2: In one season, they've already beaten three teams by at

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Speaker 2: Christophe Prezingers thirteen of sixteen and no presingers. And you know, hey,

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Speaker 2: think that the Phoenix Suns scored one hundred and three

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Speaker 2: two to thirty eight, and it was you know, they're

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Speaker 2: this ball game? What did you take away from what

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Speaker 4: It showed exactly why it's.

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Speaker 1: Hard to guard people in today's game, Right, there's so

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Speaker 1: much offense on the court that when you tried to

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Speaker 1: letting Jalen Brown shoot the ball.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, right, the guy.

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Speaker 1: Who makes two hundred and fifty seven million dollars.

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Speaker 4: He's the guy three hundred. Yeah, three hundred and four.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna let We're gonna let mister three hundred shoot

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Speaker 1: those shots. And he had nineteen points. The score was

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Speaker 1: nineteen to twenty one. He had nineteen points in the

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Speaker 1: Twenty one twenty one and they got to go out

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Speaker 1: score twenty eighty three and then they finished they finished

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Speaker 1: a quarter forty four to twenty two. It just shows

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Speaker 2: the thing when you let a professional, I mean, just

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Speaker 2: think about what you're saying. You're letting a professional do

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Speaker 2: we're not gonna guard him. So you're gonna I mean

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Speaker 4: He's gonna knock that more time than not. Give a

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Speaker 2: You make it seem like you you you, you you

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Speaker 2: You're gonna basically, and he said, you know he's Uh.

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Speaker 2: Steve Kurk said, our strategy, that was our strategy going

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Speaker 2: to the game with the sag off someone Okay, Jaylen

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Speaker 2: That's disrespectful that a man of his caliber that you say,

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Speaker 2: you know what, We're not gonna even guard you.

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Speaker 4: It's embarrassing.

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Speaker 1: I remember, uh when I used to play and you know,

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Speaker 1: And you know I yelled at him, you daphing Baum

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Speaker 1: like yo, you you are NBA player and you letting

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Speaker 1: them come off you to come double me. Oh come on, man,

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Speaker 1: you gotta take some pride.

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Speaker 4: I don't give a shit if you kick the ball

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Speaker 1: You are a NBA player and they doubling off you.

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Speaker 1: Ain't no way you gonna go leave me as an

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna feel disrespected. Yeah, And that's how everybody should

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Speaker 1: Ben Simmons, Ain't no way You're gonna sit at the

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Speaker 4: I'm a run jump, I'm a you gonna.

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Speaker 1: You better take a charge of the free thrown because

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Speaker 4: Yes, the fact that.

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Speaker 4: Right? And I'm glad Jaylen Brown all right, I got

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Speaker 4: you gonna you're gonna sag He's gonna yeah this nineteen

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he got He's got to make him pay. I

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Speaker 2: I can't teach you how to do it. You see

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Speaker 2: if I'm if you're afraid of the water, I can't

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Speaker 4: Ben?

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Speaker 2: I don't know how Ben Simmons, because he was so

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Speaker 2: Let them. So everybody kick the can.

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Speaker 4: Down the road. And here we are.

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Speaker 2: We got an NBA player that was an All Star,

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Speaker 2: I can't not hating shout of basketball in thirty years

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Speaker 1: I've watched him three summers on he can shoot the

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Speaker 4: The mechanics is good.

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Speaker 1: Feet his feet placement is good, especially for a left

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Speaker 4: He doesn't have that. We'll go to the side shot

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Speaker 1: I think it's his depth perception. I think it's off

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Speaker 4: That happened.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if that's a football thing, but in

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Speaker 1: When you put him in an arena, for some reason,

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Speaker 4: And I think that's actually his problem because when it.

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Speaker 2: Guys don't have like him, don't have guys to have

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Speaker 1: Moody's looking for his game like Yo Chat, looking for Oho.

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Speaker 4: He ain't coming. He ain't coming, y'all.

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Speaker 2: With whatever he got some personal that he got some

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Speaker 4: He got going on.

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Speaker 4: This is right.

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Speaker 1: So but for the most part, the team is done right.

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Speaker 2: If he consummoners this, if he can do this, say

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Speaker 4: There on a hope and a prayer that he has

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Speaker 2: There's a reason why he got He's a four time

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Speaker 2: now you're gonna ask him to win. He gave you

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Speaker 1: Shows how fast you can lose confidence in yourself.

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Speaker 4: It's not like he does not shoot the same amount

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Speaker 1: To put in extra words saying it's the same routine,

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Speaker 4: Same thing that happened to Russ.

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Speaker 1: Russ went from averaging a triple double, came here, god booed,

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Speaker 4: Seen in the same rust again. Right right, Yeah, you

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Speaker 2: But I think the thing is people like, well, hey,

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Speaker 2: It's not like and Russ what Russ is a top

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Speaker 4: His resume is complete. But let's not kid ourselves.

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Speaker 2: Because and he was willing to accept the role in

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Speaker 2: he was unaccepting up that role. But I guess because

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Speaker 2: James Harden is better at this point in time.

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Speaker 4: James Hard is better than I am.

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Speaker 2: But I think Terrence Man, Terrence man ain't better than

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Speaker 2: didn't give the Lakers what he gave. But maybe it's price.

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Speaker 2: Maybe because we looked at what he's making forty plus

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Speaker 4: Twenty ten and eight.

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Speaker 2: But how are you gonna give you that because he's

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Speaker 4: Na see. I think the problem when it came to

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Speaker 1: You know, when he came here, right, he was expected

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Speaker 1: heard for most of that year. He played seventy seven games.

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Speaker 4: So we said, all right, we're gonna give it to you. Russ.

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Speaker 2: But what if he'd gave us okay, he used to

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Speaker 2: Thunder give us thirty a knight? Because you said he's

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Speaker 2: he gave Okac, Now there's your opportunity to give us

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but that playbook is made That playbook was made

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Speaker 4: This playbook is not made for him.

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Speaker 1: Right, There's a lot of factors that factored in. And

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Speaker 4: Seven, played well, played well. And then he said come

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Speaker 1: Like?

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Speaker 4: Who you want me? I think that's the hardest thing

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Speaker 1: Here, you know, so you know, coming to the Clippers,

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Speaker 4: We're a little too small. We need more movement. Okay, okay,

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Speaker 4: He had you.

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Speaker 2: And I think the thing is he embraced the role.

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Speaker 2: He accepted the role. Give him credit. I wanted i'd

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Speaker 2: I thought he played okay. Everybody said eighteen seven and seven,

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Speaker 4: No, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: It's one of those things where I don't think they

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Speaker 4: I knew it wouldn't work. Oh, Jill I said, Jill.

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Speaker 2: I went on there and said, look, I'm sorry. You know, guys,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it ain't. Yeah, you can.

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Speaker 2: Both guys need the ball in their hand to be

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Speaker 1: And then that's why I always say he's the point guard.

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Speaker 1: You know, we we didn't to pretend that he's a

440
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Speaker 1: small ford. No, he's a point guard. He always yes,

441
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Speaker 1: the two guards with him is the two and the three.

442
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that road right?

443
00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:10,760
Speaker 1: So yeah, you know, Russell couldn't play traditional too, so

444
00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:13,840
Speaker 1: it kind of messed his game up, right, because in

445
00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:15,280
Speaker 1: order to play with Lebron, you're gonna have to be

446
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Speaker 1: able to shoot the ball because he's gonna have the ball.

447
00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:20,000
Speaker 2: So you making all the plays and doing what he did.

448
00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:22,840
Speaker 2: And let's just say and ok se, obviously it was

449
00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:25,320
Speaker 2: he and KD, but he was the playmaker. KD leaves

450
00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:28,080
Speaker 2: He's he's outstanding. He takes his game to another level.

451
00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:31,240
Speaker 2: Even with James Harden, he still found the way that

452
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Speaker 2: the average twenty five, twenty five and seven. It wasn't

453
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Speaker 2: like it wasn't like he was slouch in there and

454
00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:40,280
Speaker 2: James needed a ball And that was when James was

455
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Speaker 2: going crazy. That was that was James. That was James

456
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Speaker 2: Hard at his absolute peak. And then he goes to

457
00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:49,920
Speaker 2: Washington in that Averager triple double for a year. So

458
00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:56,520
Speaker 2: so for him, he like, don't I don't really wear hats,

459
00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:57,840
Speaker 2: but if I had, when I take my hat off

460
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Speaker 2: to it, because it's not easy to be as credentialed

461
00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:07,359
Speaker 2: as he is and accepting of a role when you believe,

462
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Speaker 2: and I believe Russ believed that he's a starter. Yeah

463
00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:14,399
Speaker 2: of course, but he says, you know what, this is

464
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Speaker 2: what's best for the team, and every a lot of.

465
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Speaker 4: A lot of gills.

466
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Speaker 2: Everybody can't do that. See everybody, you know this gill.

467
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Speaker 2: Everybody like, I just want to win, Yeah, but I

468
00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:26,920
Speaker 2: want to win my weight. I want to win it

469
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Speaker 2: my weight.

470
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Speaker 4: So that's so that's a caveat. I ain't gonna tell

471
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Speaker 4: you that. Man. I just want to be somewhere I

472
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Speaker 4: can win, yes, but I need to I.

473
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Speaker 1: Think that's between it, like where Russ is and where

474
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Speaker 1: Clay is is.

475
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Speaker 4: I think Clay.

476
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Speaker 1: Is where Russ was last year, or to okay with

477
00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:51,920
Speaker 1: the Lakers coming off the bench wasn't his idea, right,

478
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Speaker 1: This wasn't his idea. Oh I need to come. This

479
00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:58,080
Speaker 1: was the team's idea. So now he has to try

480
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Speaker 1: to try to accept this role. Right if I'm if

481
00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:10,200
Speaker 1: I'm the coach those last fifteen games, I really need

482
00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:13,160
Speaker 1: to sit back and think about the chess move here,

483
00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:17,800
Speaker 1: and the chess move here is do I shut Curry down?

484
00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:20,440
Speaker 1: Give him at sixty five games, but for the most

485
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Speaker 1: part shut him down.

486
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Speaker 4: Draymond shut down.

487
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Speaker 1: Claye Comminger, though, cause I need if I'm gonna bring

488
00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:33,359
Speaker 1: Clay back, I need Clay mentally focused, mentally prepared and

489
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Speaker 1: ready for next season.

490
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Speaker 2: I ain't bringing it back at twenty four million. Yeil

491
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Speaker 2: what two year? Twenty four yoh? Yeah, know what I'm saying. No,

492
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Speaker 2: not twenty four a year. I got myself. Come on,

493
00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:50,920
Speaker 2: come on, already paid it. Already gave twenty million. I gave,

494
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Speaker 2: I gave, I paid it for what he did. Now

495
00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:55,000
Speaker 2: I gotta pay it for what I believe you're gonna do.

496
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Speaker 1: No, no, no, that's not how I work on No, this

497
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Speaker 1: ain't no hell no, hell no you paying me? You

498
00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:09,240
Speaker 1: paying me for what I did. That's how the NBA works, damn.

499
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Speaker 1: So when I get when I get drafted, when I

500
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Speaker 1: get drafted the number one pick, that's not what I'm doing.

501
00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:18,840
Speaker 1: That's what I did, what I did from elementary, junior, high,

502
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,560
Speaker 1: high school, college, That's what I was rewarded for.

503
00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:24,240
Speaker 4: What I do. The next four years, I'm gonna get

504
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Speaker 4: the next deal.

505
00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,960
Speaker 1: So my contract right here is I got a championship,

506
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Speaker 1: then I twenty so I got hurt a couple of times.

507
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Speaker 4: So forty eight million is cool.

508
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Speaker 1: I think we get confused, somebody. It ain't about what

509
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna do. Got damn because whatever I do moving forward,

510
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Speaker 1: my contract is.

511
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Speaker 4: Gonna reflunck it that.

512
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Speaker 2: Well I should have played I should I should have

513
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:49,960
Speaker 2: played basketball in that damn she ain't had working football football.

514
00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,359
Speaker 2: Say look here, we already paid you. We paid you

515
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:55,280
Speaker 2: for those Pro Bowls on All Pros or Super Bowl down.

516
00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,040
Speaker 2: What do I think you can give me over the

517
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Speaker 2: next two to three years that's going to jump justify

518
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,120
Speaker 2: the compensation that you're seeking.

519
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:09,919
Speaker 4: But back to the Celtics.

520
00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,639
Speaker 2: The Celtics have won their last five games by an

521
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,080
Speaker 2: average of thirty point two points a game. And we

522
00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:18,679
Speaker 2: talked about last last week on First Take, and I said.

523
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Speaker 4: The Celtics are in a class by of their own

524
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Speaker 4: and Steven A. Perk Off.

525
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Speaker 2: Perk quick to say, man, you need to watch more games. Well,

526
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Speaker 2: I don't know what TV you got, but I want

527
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Speaker 2: to know who you think like right now, the way

528
00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:35,720
Speaker 2: they're playing. I'm talking about right now now when it

529
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Speaker 2: gets to the playoffs, all best of off. But the

530
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Speaker 2: question was right now.

531
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Speaker 4: And they are.

532
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Speaker 1: They're the only team right now playing like an NBA champion. Yes,

533
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Speaker 1: I mean from you know how Denver looked last year,

534
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Speaker 1: that's how That's how Boston looks right now.

535
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Speaker 2: Their c never looked like that last night against Lakers,

536
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:56,880
Speaker 2: though they were looked like that last night against the Lakers,

537
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Speaker 2: especially in the thirty fourth quarter.

538
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Speaker 4: Yeah.

539
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Speaker 1: So Boston's been playing fair, very very consistent, very dominant,

540
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:04,000
Speaker 1: right they have.

541
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Speaker 4: They've been dominating teams.

542
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 1: Yes, so they're already in championship stride right Uh. The

543
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Speaker 1: rest of the field needs to catch up behind them,

544
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Speaker 1: will probably be Denver, you know, because champion and they

545
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:19,120
Speaker 1: know when to turn it on and turn it off

546
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:21,200
Speaker 1: and then from there.

547
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Speaker 2: To be honest, it's a roll of dice and gil.

548
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:30,680
Speaker 2: That's why I say the Lakers, and look, I don't.

549
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Speaker 2: I don't feel that.

550
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Speaker 1: I don't.

551
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Speaker 2: I haven't seen anything from the Lakers that convinced me

552
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 2: they can beat Denver in a seven game series. But

553
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:39,320
Speaker 2: everybody else in the West, the Lakers can be the

554
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Speaker 2: seven game series.

555
00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:42,440
Speaker 4: And that's what I'm saying, the seven game series.

556
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Speaker 2: Yes, the West is open that like you.

557
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Speaker 4: As a Laker fan, we don't want Denver. No, we

558
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:52,720
Speaker 4: do not want no, hell no, not hell no.

559
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Speaker 1: No.

560
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Speaker 2: We gotta we gotta looking see okay dinner. They're in

561
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,840
Speaker 2: the third part right now. So I actually I don't

562
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Speaker 2: want to be in the sixth spot.

563
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Speaker 4: I don't WoT that. Nah, you know you, somebody somebody

564
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,439
Speaker 4: else left, somebody else deal with them. We want to

565
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 4: get Denver in the same place we got them last

566
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 4: in Western Conference.

567
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:12,960
Speaker 1: Final, and hopefully that happened before we get to them.

568
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 1: Other than that, it's all placing right. Everyone's beatable in

569
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 1: the West besides Denver. You know, when when the way

570
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 1: the offense runs, the way they click as a unit.

571
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Speaker 4: You know, it clutched onbelieve they know what they're doing.

572
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 2: How many times, yo, did you with the clock running down,

573
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:33,159
Speaker 2: go hit the shot?

574
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 4: He shooting from back here? How many times he gonna

575
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:36,399
Speaker 4: do that?

576
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,119
Speaker 2: We saw that three or four times last year in

577
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:39,880
Speaker 2: the Western Conference Finals gainst the Lakers.

578
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 4: But he gil, you got to explain to him, Look,

579
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:43,960
Speaker 4: this is what we know.

580
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 2: And maybe there's some a little correlation, a little carryover

581
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 2: between the NBA and in an NFL. If you give

582
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 2: a quarterback a steady diet of anything, he'll eat it up. Yeah,

583
00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 2: I don't know why. Okay, you said, you know what,

584
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 2: I'm gonna throw him a curveball. I'm gonna start ruin.

585
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 2: Oh yo, kids, but you're gonna do that, damn near

586
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,160
Speaker 2: the whole game. And you don't think that man gonna

587
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 2: figure it out. He gonna get down to that block,

588
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 2: he gonna walk him back and then hey, he gonna

589
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,159
Speaker 2: pump fake and did he go up and on either.

590
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:19,199
Speaker 4: Left or right? You know what makes you know? What

591
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 4: makes your kidch good?

592
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 1: And because one, he's a team he's a team guy. Yes,

593
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,399
Speaker 1: So the fact that he's a team guy, his first

594
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 1: instinct is the past. Yeah, because he is a dominant

595
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 1: big down low with the posts moves. He can be

596
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:40,479
Speaker 1: selfish too, So if he if he wanted to score fifty,

597
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 1: there's no one really gonna stop him.

598
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 4: No, no one's gonna stop him from scoring fifty.

599
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 1: So when we're looking at his stats, and he is

600
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:53,199
Speaker 1: really playing games with everybody, and that's the thing that

601
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,400
Speaker 1: because he is smart enough to understand, I'm gonna throw

602
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 1: some passes here, I'm gonna do a little bit of

603
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:01,679
Speaker 1: scoring here, it's really hard to figure out which mode is.

604
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:05,200
Speaker 1: You're gonna really have to go to analytics to see

605
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,679
Speaker 1: what time he tries to score when he likes to pass.

606
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 1: Other than that, if you're just playing him naturally, you're

607
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 1: you're just You're just He's just a puppet master with you.

608
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 1: He's just sitting there, just sitting here doing this. He's

609
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 1: he's you Pinocchio, and he's the the the the doc

610
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,239
Speaker 1: on your pedal time. Yeah, yeah, yeah, And that's what

611
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 1: he's doing with everybody. I think, and and look, and

612
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:29,920
Speaker 1: I didn't expect Michael Porter the first guy to take

613
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Speaker 1: attim the least ten shots, shoot one hundred percent attim

614
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Speaker 1: the least five threes shoot.

615
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 4: One hundred percent. Hue free throws and shoot one hundred percent.

616
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 2: He's the first guy in NBA history to have that

617
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 2: stat line.

618
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Speaker 4: That's impressive. That's very impressive. Uh. The most impressive thing

619
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Speaker 4: from Michael porter Drew.

620
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Speaker 1: He had four a sis stop he passed he had

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Speaker 1: four this yes, no, what what he passed us? That's

622
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Speaker 1: one man that you know. Once it touched his hands

623
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Speaker 1: and was going up. So when I looked at the

624
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 1: state line, I said, Forward says, oh man, he was

625
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 1: on fire.

626
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 2: He was on fire and U And the thing was

627
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 2: is that when the Lakers had a run was going

628
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 2: in the first, he kept him close because he was

629
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 2: just coming down, letting them threes go where the Lakers

630
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 2: could have probably built a fifteen to twenty point lead.

631
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 2: Every time they got double digits, he boomed back to eight.

632
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 2: They get up to fourteen, boom, boom, boom, and now

633
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 2: he hit five quick points and now he's back down

634
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 2: to a nine point game.

635
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 4: So he kept them attacked.

636
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 2: And then in the third he picked right up where

637
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 2: he left off in the first half. Now yo gets

638
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 2: it go and now he says, okay, now it's time

639
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 2: for me to cert myself and then in the fourth

640
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 2: you get Murray. Now they go to the two man game.

641
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 2: Now they're about to pick and roll you. Now Murray's

642
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 2: from the dragon pull you. He fin the go and

643
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 2: come bobo bop.

644
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 4: And now all of a sudden, he come yo doing

645
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 4: all this and he goes.

646
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 2: He lobbed at the Gordon and then Gordon hits a three,

647
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 2: and then Murray and then a porter hits another three.

648
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 2: That they execute so well because down down the stretch

649
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 2: there is nothing that they can't get because of yoke.

650
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 4: You come with the double team. He sees it.

651
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 2: He's gonna kick the open guy. Now it's just a

652
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 2: matter of they knock it down or not. Now Murray says, okay,

653
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 2: you and I go to the pick and roll the

654
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 2: dribble handoff you know, uh he yoke roll to the

655
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 2: basket or Murray Keasey goes all the way to the basket. Yo,

656
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 2: can pomp? I mean, so you're kind of at the mercy.

657
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 2: It's just like man, I sure hope they off the

658
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 2: night and they're missing shot because they're not. With the

659
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 2: way he's playing and the way he can pass the

660
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 2: ball and see the floor.

661
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 4: What you gonna do? You know?

662
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 1: When when when you're talking about the last four or

663
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 1: five minutes with them, and that's where the.

664
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 4: Lakers lost it.

665
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 1: They lost it in the last yes, because they're playing

666
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:51,479
Speaker 1: team basketball in the last three minutes, right, they're picking

667
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 1: the bat. We know what the Laker's gonna do. Lebron's

668
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 1: gonna come. He gonna set a pick and roll, try

669
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 1: to get the ISO. Maybe look at his hand a

670
00:30:58,080 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 1: couple of.

671
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 4: Times, hit the Michael Jackson glove and then he gonna

672
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 4: shoot the three or try to move off that. Now

673
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 4: Lebron himself has to play perfect.

674
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 1: You have to make yes, yes, seventy percent of your

675
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 1: shots in the last five minutes. Well, when it comes

676
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 1: to Denver, Jokis can go one for one but have

677
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 1: five assists.

678
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 4: Correct in that last five minutes, Murray can be four

679
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 4: for five.

680
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 1: You got we got three offensive rebounds and putbacks. So

681
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 1: when it comes to the last five minutes, they're all

682
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 1: playing together and doing what they do best, crashing the boards, diving, slashing, popping, rolling,

683
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 1: hosting up, getting to the free throw line, and it's it's.

684
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 4: Really beautiful basketball. I'm not even gonna lie. When it

685
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 4: comes to you have to think Calvin booth like he

686
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 4: was on my team.

687
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 1: We used to talk basketball, we used to talk strategy,

688
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 1: and when you look at the lineup.

689
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 4: It is how he thought the game. He thought the game.

690
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 1: From this aspect, and you can't see it play out

691
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 1: very well.

692
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 2: Right, it's just uh. And the guy that guys played

693
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 2: played very very well.

694
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 1: Uh.

695
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 2: They needed a little bit more from a d Ad

696
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 2: only had seventeen points. He missed some easy he missed

697
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 2: some easy with last night. But I can't even beat

698
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 2: a d up because AD has been playing unbelievable. I

699
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 2: just didn't like Darvin Ham's rotation last night. I don't

700
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 2: know why you benched d Low. The man has he

701
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 2: had a little offshooting night, So now you're gonna send

702
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 2: him to the bench.

703
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 4: Yeah damn.

704
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 2: I mean what about all all the night that he

705
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 2: been averaging like twenty five.

706
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 4: And so now he has one.

707
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 2: He had a little stretch, He goes like five minutes,

708
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 2: he doesn't hit any three. He had a couple of lipouts,

709
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 2: Like come on, bro, this is the problem.

710
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 1: You put him on the bench for who cam the

711
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 1: nineteen minutes three shots?

712
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 2: Come on, I might as well put de Loo in.

713
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 2: But right, and and it wasn't like he was stopping Murray.

714
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 2: So I can I can leave you in. I could

715
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 2: take d Low out if you're got a neutralized Murray.

716
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 2: But if Murray's getting whatever you want, hell, I can

717
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 2: put d Loe in because Delo's gonna at least gonna

718
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 2: give me something on the opposite end.

719
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 1: And that's all that. When I'm playing Denver, that's all

720
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 1: I'm thinking. See, I think they get wrapped up into

721
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 1: we have to stop them. Well, the problem with this

722
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 1: is this is not an individual stop.

723
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 4: This is team defense.

724
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 1: So that means Cam Prince, they have no they have

725
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 1: no skin in this part of the game. Right, So

726
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 1: Denver's thinking offense, right, you have to think matching it

727
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 1: because who's a great defensive player on On Denver, no

728
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 1: one ever talks about their defense.

729
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean kcp is they're really their guy, and

730
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 2: bron the guy out of Kansas. But they play. Yeah,

731
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 2: but they don't have Jok is not a shop blocker.

732
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 2: He's a deflector. He's gonna use his hands. He's gonna

733
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 2: kick a lot of balls. He gonna get his hand

734
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 2: and deflect some balls. But other than that, they don't

735
00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 2: have guys that can guard they don't have perimeter defenders

736
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 2: like a like a PG in his prime or like

737
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 2: a Kawhi. They don't have those type of guys Lebron

738
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 2: Kobe God that could sit sit in the chair.

739
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:11,319
Speaker 4: They don't have They don't have guys like that.

740
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 2: But but they got guys that say, you know what,

741
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:23,320
Speaker 2: we'll take our offensive guys, Yoke Murray, uh Porter Junior,

742
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:27,879
Speaker 2: we'll take our big three and although we might give

743
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:31,400
Speaker 2: up something as far as lateral quickness, we're gonna punish

744
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 2: you on the offensive end.

745
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:34,359
Speaker 4: So you bet not miss Yeah. And that's a thing.

746
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 1: They're going offense, which they know, well, you're gonna go defense,

747
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 1: so you're gonna take away half of.

748
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 4: Your points anyway, right, you know.

749
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 1: And that's the thing I've been trying to preach to

750
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 1: some of these guys, like those days of having that

751
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 1: offensive that defensive guy in that can't score is really

752
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 1: a liability.

753
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,320
Speaker 4: Right. Look at look at what Goden State tried.

754
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 1: They tried to sag and sit back on three hundred

755
00:34:59,040 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 1: and fifty million.

756
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 4: What the hell you?

757
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 1: Then they're gonna do the Prince and what's the name

758
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 1: they gonna they're not gonna respect them. So the fact

759
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 1: that they tried it with Jalen Brown. You need to

760
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 1: put offense in the tax to tax these butts out here.

761
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 4: Yeah. Uh.

762
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 2: Perkins demands that the Lakers build a statue for Lebron.

763
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 2: I mean, get ready to start scooping the statue for

764
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 2: Lebron outside Crypto dot com.

765
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 4: Marena, that's what, okay, forty.

766
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,839
Speaker 2: Thousand points done in the Laker uniform, passing Marene, when

767
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:29,880
Speaker 2: he passed him up in the Lakers uniform, winning an

768
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 2: NBA championship in the Lakers uniform?

769
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 4: What else can I say about the man?

770
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 2: Lebron also admits that the Lakers the Nuggets have their

771
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:40,799
Speaker 2: number and are the So I'm gonna ask you, do

772
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:42,839
Speaker 2: you believe the Nuggets are the first of all, let's

773
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 2: get to what Perk said. Do you believe the Lakers

774
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 2: will build a statue for Lebron if.

775
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 4: His career started right now? Hell on now?

776
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:54,800
Speaker 1: No, he don't have enough. He don't have enough accolades

777
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:59,360
Speaker 1: in the Laker uniform right this ain't this needs another title? Yeah,

778
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:03,839
Speaker 1: you need years. He's only played six years. The closest,

779
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:07,800
Speaker 1: the closest statue we have with that was with Shack

780
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 1: Shack eight years was that four rings, no, three ring,

781
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 1: three years, thirteen thousand points.

782
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:16,800
Speaker 4: That's the bottom. That's our worst.

783
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 1: That's the worst when it comes to real accolades with

784
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:21,280
Speaker 1: that statue.

785
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 4: So you know, everybody else thirteen fourteen.

786
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 1: Something years, right, you know, So it's gonna be hard

787
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,840
Speaker 1: to put him in there with six years, eight thousand points,

788
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:36,319
Speaker 1: one championship, I mean six, six All Stars, five All

789
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 1: NBA because we ain't finished this season.

790
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:40,760
Speaker 4: That's not good. That's not good enough for a statue

791
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 4: in Los Angeles? Right? Are the Nuggets no dangerous? They

792
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 4: can just put his shoes. They can just start with

793
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,799
Speaker 4: the shoes out there. They could just start with.

794
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 1: The bronze out there? Are the Nuggets the most dangerous

795
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:55,760
Speaker 1: team in the West?

796
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:56,799
Speaker 4: If not? Who is?

797
00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 1: Yes, the most thing? Ooh, the most Okay, that's tricky.

798
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 1: The most dangerous team is the Clippers because they got

799
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:14,359
Speaker 1: they got on two, three, four Hall of famers, four

800
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 1: guys who can average or who can score thirty at

801
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 1: any moment. They are the most dangerous team. You talk

802
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,399
Speaker 1: about the Clippers, The Clippers are the most I'm sorry,

803
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 1: the Clippers. They are the most dangerous team due to

804
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 1: the fact that they have a lot of firepower, not

805
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:34,879
Speaker 1: saying they can all fire the weapons at the same time,

806
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 1: but they have the most firepower. The most consistent team,

807
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:41,280
Speaker 1: the most reliable team is Denver.

808
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 4: See the thing was, I think hurt the Clippers.

809
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 2: Jogics would literally average forty twenty and fifteen because they

810
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:50,759
Speaker 2: got nobody can do anything with you.

811
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 4: I'm telling about nothing, plumb le zubox. He's follow them out.

812
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 2: And so now the Nuggets already have competence because they've

813
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 2: traced this team down now minus Harden, they've chased this

814
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 2: team down from three to one. And Murray, I don't

815
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 2: know what it is about the Clippers, but here and no,

816
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:12,319
Speaker 2: Porter Junior love playing the Clippers because he said they

817
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,359
Speaker 2: passed on him. They flunked him because of that back,

818
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 2: and he's been punishing them. And I believe he's better

819
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,320
Speaker 2: now than he was then when he started, when he

820
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 2: got hot.

821
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 4: And we know what Murray did. I think the final

822
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 4: game he dropped forty on him.

823
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, in that in that game, in that game seven

824
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 2: and so like I said with yok and no, you

825
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,840
Speaker 2: gotta have somebody. Look, you not gonna stop him, but

826
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 2: you damn sure better have Somebody's gonna give you twenty five.

827
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:39,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know with them, man, it's it's it's just

828
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 4: you have to match the production. Just Yeah.

829
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 1: At this point, like Zubac, like for for the Clippers

830
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 1: who win this, Zubach has to be playing at a

831
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 1: good level.

832
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 4: Like I'm Zubac has to average fifteen to.

833
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:58,800
Speaker 1: Nineteen points in that series, you average fifty. If Zubac

834
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 1: can average fifteen nineteen that series, we know yokis just

835
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:08,360
Speaker 1: gonna have anywhere from forty to fifty three all together.

836
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:14,280
Speaker 1: So if if the Zuba can get around thirty, Clippers

837
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 1: got a really good chance. Yes, And then you throw

838
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 1: Plumbly in there. Yeah, if plumbly, because here's the thing.

839
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,760
Speaker 1: What cost the Lakers. Lakers been getting crushed in the glass.

840
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 1: The Nuggets wipe them on the glass.

841
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 2: And for a team that has Anthony Davis and Lebron

842
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 2: and some guys can rebound it, they've been getting out

843
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 2: rebounded lately. Yeah, and no rings, no rebounds, no rings.

844
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:38,319
Speaker 2: That's because now you give teams second chance, You give

845
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:40,880
Speaker 2: teams another crack at the basket at you and some

846
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 2: a lot of times that might end up in a three.

847
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:43,319
Speaker 4: Yeah.

848
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 2: So you look at Lebron's accomplishments in the Lakers uniform.

849
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 2: His forty fivesands point game lost to the Nuggets, the

850
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 2: statue and veiling game between two to twenty four game

851
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 2: lost to the Nuggets. The game in which he passed

852
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 2: Kareem lost to the Thunder. I was at that game. Actually,

853
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:08,759
Speaker 2: I was supposed to be at that game Saturday night,

854
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:12,359
Speaker 2: but I was in Jersey for the Portie Ain't doing

855
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:15,760
Speaker 2: some stuff and they lost to the Sixers. When Lebron

856
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:19,759
Speaker 2: passed Kobe most of his points in this game, you.

857
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 4: Try what you're trying to say, Hey, hey, we got

858
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:28,359
Speaker 4: no more we ain't got no more comedic g I'm

859
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:30,240
Speaker 4: gonna say the next accomplis stream.

860
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 2: I gotta take the other team. So you trying to

861
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 2: tell me, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I will break that partly.

862
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 2: I mean, there's an outside chance he could get to

863
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 2: eleven thousand assists. Uh what did he got like twenty

864
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 2: games to go?

865
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:45,320
Speaker 4: Yeah? What do you?

866
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:46,840
Speaker 2: And I think I don't know, he might not get it.

867
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 2: I think he's about think he's about one hundred and

868
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 2: sixty something. So he was literally after average like eight

869
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 2: and a half assist the game, which is popular. You

870
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:56,759
Speaker 2: never say what he can't do yeah, because he'll go

871
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:58,839
Speaker 2: to the streak and the average ten assist the game.

872
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 1: Yea that he that he's only you know, a certain

873
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 1: amount of way he's going to Yes, deemon, time to

874
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:04,719
Speaker 1: get that.

875
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 4: Yeah. Uh, Gil, you had.

876
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:10,840
Speaker 2: A hot take this weekend. You were trending you blame

877
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 2: the European players for bad defense in the NBA, and

878
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 2: it went virals. If you stand by your comments that

879
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 2: the European players are the blame for that, because Wemby says, hey,

880
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 2: Gill live it, how at your right?

881
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 4: Quick? Listen? Listen, listen.

882
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 1: This is the problem we came out of All Star

883
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:36,719
Speaker 1: weekend about we need to fix defense, right, yes, yes, right, we.

884
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:38,760
Speaker 4: Need to fix defense. There's something wrong with the defense.

885
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 1: We need to put in hand checking, we need to

886
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:42,360
Speaker 1: do three seconds, we need to do all this. We

887
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 1: need to you know, shorten three point line, make the

888
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:45,800
Speaker 1: three point line bigger.

889
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,879
Speaker 4: So I just threw in my own little thing. Hey,

890
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 4: how about this, right, hot fout?

891
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:54,839
Speaker 1: If you really want to go back to the old

892
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 1: way of playing basketball, get rid of the people who

893
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 1: expanded the offense. See, they don't want they want to

894
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 1: think about Oh my god, he wants to get rid

895
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 1: of Euro. Think about what the Euro did to the game.

896
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 1: All the Yeuro centers besides.

897
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 4: Rudy all can shoot the three.

898
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're not dinosaurs down there, right, So all the

899
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:21,959
Speaker 1: Yeuro big men can shoot the three. All the Yuro

900
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:24,800
Speaker 1: power forwards can shoot the three threes.

901
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 4: Four.

902
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 1: So the Yuro expanded the game outside in offensively, offensively.

903
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:31,879
Speaker 4: Right.

904
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 1: So if you wanted to go back to eighties basketball

905
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:36,719
Speaker 1: where you have a whole bunch of dudes that can't

906
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 1: shoot the ball, that could jump in, jump.

907
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 4: In, do this, well, then get rid of the year road. See,

908
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 4: they hear what I'm saying, but they don't try to

909
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 4: put no knowledge into it. Right. But here's the thing, though,

910
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:49,760
Speaker 4: gil guys works. The guys are so specific now.

911
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 2: It ain't like for first of all, ain't like no

912
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:54,319
Speaker 2: American born player playing now defense either, ain't nobody sitting

913
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:56,919
Speaker 2: in a damn chair because even Kawhi and PG don't

914
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 2: play defense like they once did once Kawhi got a

915
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 2: taste that offensive scoring. Because look at when when Kawhi

916
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:06,840
Speaker 2: Scory started going up here, that defense started coming down here. No,

917
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 2: it's only been it's only been like three guys three

918
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 2: that that would win what we consider winging Jordan, Kobe,

919
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:16,360
Speaker 2: and Lebron because if you look at Lebron when he

920
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:19,279
Speaker 2: was in Miami and he was winning the MVPs, he

921
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 2: was first team All Defense. He took that, he took

922
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:24,839
Speaker 2: d Rose. Go look back at Lebron when he took

923
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 2: d Rose and d Rose had won the m v P.

924
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:31,879
Speaker 2: Look at look at Lebron when he took Tony Parker. Yep,

925
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 2: it locked it. Yeah yeah, God had him logged up,

926
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 2: would let him out. So Kobe, we know, Kobe a

927
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:43,240
Speaker 2: nine time All defensive guys Jordan, but we're talking about

928
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 2: not only just guys, because there are a lot of

929
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 2: guys that play defense, but they can't give you the

930
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 2: scory like those guys could. So that's what I'm talking about.

931
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 2: So now we look at American players, ain't know how

932
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 2: to play.

933
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 4: First of all.

934
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, ain't no way to play in defense anymore because

935
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 2: ain't nobody making the money.

936
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 1: So no, it didn't even the fact that nobody's playing defense.

937
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 1: I think I think the problem is, and where I

938
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 1: get frustrated, is give credit to the offense. Why can't

939
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 1: we just give credit to something?

940
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:09,400
Speaker 4: Right? Yes, right, we give credit to the offense. The

941
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:11,280
Speaker 4: offense is just a lot better.

942
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm telling you the year Roses shooting threes

943
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 1: from the five men position, right, Yes, so it's a

944
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:21,280
Speaker 1: better position in today's game. Right you got guys shooting

945
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 1: from damn near half or when some of those players can't.

946
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 4: Even shoot from the free throw line. Right.

947
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 1: So when we talk about what the problem is, there's none.

948
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 4: There's no problem. What. I don't care what you.

949
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 1: Try to do. You want to play put put? No

950
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 1: three seconds? What you think that's gonna do? More threes? Yeah, well,

951
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 1: who you gonna who are you gonna sit in the lane?

952
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 1: With which which guy the center?

953
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:49,360
Speaker 4: Bob?

954
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:52,800
Speaker 1: You have Anti Davis in the three? You're gonna play zone.

955
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:55,840
Speaker 1: Then it's all five men shooting threes. Like, there's no

956
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 1: there's no thought process in some of the things. So

957
00:44:58,120 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, if you want to just throw out this,

958
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,400
Speaker 1: if it's a thing, then say all right, well we

959
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:04,759
Speaker 1: can take away five man shooting. We can take away

960
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 1: all these six ten seven foot shooters if you take

961
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 1: away the euros.

962
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 4: But obviously you don't want that to happen, so therefoot

963
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 4: shut the shut up, I think, yih, I.

964
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 2: Think also because the game is more open, the players

965
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:29,439
Speaker 2: are more skilled, because you got probably one through eight

966
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 2: that could all shoot the ball had them.

967
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:34,840
Speaker 4: I'm not saying they. I'm not saying that, Steph Curry,

968
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:35,279
Speaker 4: So don't.

969
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 2: But for the most part, as you mentioned, with the

970
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:41,799
Speaker 2: exception of Rudy Gobert, name of five, they can't let

971
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 2: a three go and shoot it with a level of

972
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 2: consistency that no that no five could ever shoot in

973
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 2: the eighties, in the nineties.

974
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 4: Even in the even in my ear two. Right.

975
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:56,319
Speaker 2: So now you get guys that are more skilled, that

976
00:45:56,400 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 2: are playing in more space, it's harder to defend them

977
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 2: one on one.

978
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 4: And when you bring.

979
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:05,359
Speaker 2: The double, you guys kicking to a guy that could

980
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 2: shoot better than anybody could with the exceptional maybe five

981
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:10,399
Speaker 2: guys in the eighties and the nineties, in the early

982
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 2: two thousand. So what do you expect to happen If

983
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 2: you can't stay in front of a guy and I

984
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:20,840
Speaker 2: gotta send help, That guy gonna be right wide open,

985
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 2: or he's guess what, Gil, he's at the dunker.

986
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 4: Spot and now when you come, I'll blump it off

987
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 4: to him. And he dunked the ball on your head.

988
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 2: Now that's the think are you cover with the help

989
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 2: and I throw the lobby and then Anthony David boom

990
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 2: or somebody booming it on you. Now to think about now,

991
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 2: think when we talk about Denver and Murray, right, when

992
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 2: Murray does that pick and roll, right, it ain't no

993
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:43,399
Speaker 2: picking roll, it's a picking pop with the five man.

994
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:45,840
Speaker 4: Right, So what baby, you're gonna switch out? You're on

995
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 4: a hard show. What you're gonna do because he's.

996
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 1: Gonna turn the corner and when he turns the corner

997
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 1: and you stay popped to your kid, to yo kich

998
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:53,880
Speaker 1: who's protecting the rim?

999
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 4: Nobody? Nobody? And if you think about it, here come

1000
00:46:57,239 --> 00:47:01,319
Speaker 4: cording it and lobs and for the right. It's just

1001
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:02,320
Speaker 4: a different game.

1002
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 1: So if you want to take away, if you want

1003
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 1: to change it and put more defense in, then you

1004
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 1: have to take away offense.

1005
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:12,320
Speaker 4: And if you're gonna take away offense, you got to

1006
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 4: take away the people who spread of the floor.

1007
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:17,800
Speaker 2: You can't you can't take it away now, No, because

1008
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 2: now guys who don't care about dunky guys are shooting.

1009
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 2: And all the guys that you look at, the guys

1010
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 2: that AAU you don't see no high fly guys are

1011
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 2: shooting the ball.

1012
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, it used to be guys.

1013
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 2: Getting the ball down on the block and they turn

1014
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 2: around and they you know, now, hey, guys are spacing

1015
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 2: the floor. Everybody can shoot the ball. So the cats

1016
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:40,439
Speaker 2: out the bag. Pandora's box has been open. You can't

1017
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 2: put the toothpaste back into the two. Whatever analogy or

1018
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 2: phrase or cliche you want to use, this is where

1019
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 2: we are right now.

1020
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 1: You know what the real Okay, so this is how

1021
00:47:50,120 --> 00:48:00,759
Speaker 1: the game looks. American basketball is ISO one on one, yes, right.

1022
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 4: The Euro is team movement, spread the fall movement.

1023
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 1: So what happens is when the two meet and you

1024
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:12,279
Speaker 1: put a great combo together, it.

1025
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:14,280
Speaker 4: Is hard to stop the American player.

1026
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 1: Now because that American player got euro players to pass

1027
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:24,239
Speaker 1: the two. The euro has athletic guys to throw the

1028
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:28,359
Speaker 1: ball to right. So it is a great combia nation.

1029
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:28,800
Speaker 4: Now.

1030
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 1: So when you when you think about Euros taking over

1031
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:33,759
Speaker 1: the game, they're expanding it.

1032
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 4: Right. If you take Luca, If I say.

1033
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:41,360
Speaker 1: All right, remove Luca six ' nine point guard Unicorn

1034
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:48,880
Speaker 1: to that position, who's the second best Euro guard? Who's

1035
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 1: the best, yeah, yeah, yeah, who's the who's the top

1036
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:57,800
Speaker 1: two Euro shooting guards?

1037
00:48:57,840 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 4: The threes, right, So.

1038
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 1: They're still they're still deficiency in that because those three

1039
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 1: positions their team style.

1040
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:09,359
Speaker 4: Right. So the American is the star of the one

1041
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:12,440
Speaker 4: on one game and you add team players.

1042
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:16,320
Speaker 1: With them, it makes for great, great teams. So now

1043
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:19,880
Speaker 1: if you're a smart general manager, you have to understand

1044
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 1: how to put your team together.

1045
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:23,440
Speaker 4: Now, like with.

1046
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:26,280
Speaker 1: Sun Goon, Jalen and over there, they.

1047
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 4: Have a nice little combo. Yes, they need some more

1048
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:30,279
Speaker 4: team they.

1049
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 1: Already have a one on one guy, right, you have

1050
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 1: Van Fleet. You get a couple more year rolls on

1051
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 1: that team that can spread the floor and play, or

1052
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 1: just a bunch of a couple more international players that

1053
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:42,920
Speaker 1: can spread the floor and move around. They are going

1054
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 1: to be hard to deal with.

1055
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 2: Victor winm Miyama Wimby made history and president feed over

1056
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:53,840
Speaker 2: the Spurs last two games. After dropping thirty one to

1057
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:56,360
Speaker 2: twelve and six or sis six blocks against the Pacers,

1058
00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 2: Winby became the first rookie in league history coord consecutive

1059
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 2: games of twenty five ten rebounds, five or more assists,

1060
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 2: five plus box. On Thursday, Women had twenty eight points,

1061
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 2: thirteen rebounds, seven assents and five blocks. Womben Yama seemingly

1062
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 2: set some sort of history just about every night he

1063
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:14,880
Speaker 2: steps on the court. Since February the twelfth, he's averaging

1064
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 2: twenty four point six alongside the jaw dropping almost six

1065
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:21,360
Speaker 2: blocks a game, five point seven blocks a game. I

1066
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 2: said that the Rookie of the Year was over. He

1067
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 2: would argue with me, I said, do you see what

1068
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 2: this kid is doing? I mean, I'm no, seriously, do

1069
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 2: you see it? First of all, I don't think. Look

1070
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:37,440
Speaker 2: if you came into I don't think first. And they

1071
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:39,720
Speaker 2: need to do away with this. Well, he didn't play,

1072
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 2: but he's getting valuable experience. It's like a guy going

1073
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:48,760
Speaker 2: to college early. It benefits that it helps him, honestly,

1074
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:50,879
Speaker 2: that rookie. But it's been a little different what I'm saying.

1075
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:55,960
Speaker 2: Him being going through spring drills, practicing everything. He has

1076
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:58,719
Speaker 2: an advantage over God that doesn't get to come into

1077
00:50:58,760 --> 00:50:59,320
Speaker 2: the summer.

1078
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 4: So even though Chet didn't play.

1079
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 2: Like you said, Gil, him being in a meeting room,

1080
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 2: him being on the sideline, him understanding what NBA life

1081
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:13,800
Speaker 2: is about as opposed to winby it's different.

1082
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 4: You can't tell me that didn't help.

1083
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:19,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that helped because you you were put into

1084
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 1: the system. Strength training, eating routines, learning how to sleep,

1085
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:27,400
Speaker 1: learning when to go, you know, wake up, you know

1086
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:33,320
Speaker 1: you're you have an NBA routine, right, So mentally, mentally,

1087
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:37,879
Speaker 1: you're not a rookie. Rightly, you're not a rookie, right,

1088
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 1: you have established yourself in your room.

1089
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:42,240
Speaker 4: He is a full fledged.

1090
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:47,919
Speaker 1: Rookie coming from another country, learning it day by day, right,

1091
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:50,800
Speaker 1: understanding the west coach trip, going to the East coasture.

1092
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 4: He's learning that all in real time. You've already been

1093
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:55,319
Speaker 4: to that, right, So.

1094
00:51:55,480 --> 00:52:02,440
Speaker 1: This is really not a this is not a debatable conversation.

1095
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:07,440
Speaker 1: One you're only looking at because his team is good, right,

1096
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 1: It's not that he is playing like a Rookie of

1097
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:14,440
Speaker 1: the year. His stats plus his team wins.

1098
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:18,439
Speaker 4: Right. What is he the fourth option in that offense? Yeah?

1099
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:21,399
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, because we know Shaye is one for sure,

1100
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 2: and William J.

1101
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:23,759
Speaker 4: Williams is two.

1102
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:27,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, so he's third at best, third at best. Right,

1103
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 2: he's third, third at best.

1104
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 1: So the Rookie of the Year is for sure, winby

1105
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 1: But I.

1106
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:39,360
Speaker 4: Don't know if I'm the only male out here. Tall

1107
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:40,880
Speaker 4: girls are starting to look very.

1108
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 2: Attractive now, yeah, yes, sir, Hey, so you try to

1109
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:48,400
Speaker 2: go back to the drawing board to get you a

1110
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:50,320
Speaker 2: seven eight guy, hot seven eighty.

1111
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:53,360
Speaker 4: I listen, I got one six seven.

1112
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna I got I was snipped. I

1113
00:52:57,120 --> 00:53:01,919
Speaker 1: had to refesal what yoh, No, they got Windy's coming

1114
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:04,719
Speaker 1: in the league. I gotta put my name on one

1115
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:07,400
Speaker 1: of them. I gotta put my name on seven seven.

1116
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:11,719
Speaker 2: Uh, well are you but hey, I don't know you?

1117
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 2: Better go find you a six four six four woman.

1118
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 4: Oh no, Hey, I'm going to the big and Tall store.

1119
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 4: I know I'm at the Big and tall right there.

1120
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:23,759
Speaker 1: Listen, uh a w n b A. I'm looking for

1121
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 1: the old vets. Uh old vets. You know about body

1122
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 1: right there?

1123
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:33,440
Speaker 4: Thirty eight? Oh? They need you know how much they

1124
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:39,560
Speaker 4: got paid. They need this sho support they need so

1125
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 4: they willing to get into the old gilly right.

1126
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, hey, I'm the the womby yummies in

1127
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 1: them chests that looks like the future.

1128
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1129
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 2: I don't know too old model cars they gonna get

1130
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:59,879
Speaker 2: you get your spaceship. Hey, hey, Grandy's just say, boy,

1131
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:01,960
Speaker 2: two dead batteries won't give you a spark.

1132
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 4: Now what I've got, what I've gotta be fine, gil.

1133
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 2: Hey, Tony Brothers hit de jon Ty Murray with a

1134
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:15,240
Speaker 2: technical foul after he was ignored, ignored him during the timeout.

1135
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 2: It looks like they called the timeout. Did jon Tay

1136
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 2: Murray w to sit on the bench? Tony Brothers went

1137
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:23,239
Speaker 2: over to talk to him, and did John Ty Murray

1138
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:24,880
Speaker 2: didn't pay him any attention to ignore it?

1139
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 4: TV ted him up. You got the crazy story.

1140
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:33,799
Speaker 2: What's the craziest take you ever, goy Gill, because this

1141
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:36,360
Speaker 2: reminds me of the one that I forget. What was

1142
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 2: the old guy name that gave Tim Dunkey threw him

1143
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:42,880
Speaker 2: out the game for laughing. That's Crawford, Yeah, Joey Crawford.

1144
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:45,320
Speaker 2: Joey Crawford, Yeah, threw Timmy threw Timmy d out of

1145
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:46,800
Speaker 2: the game for laughing on the sideline.

1146
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:47,080
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1147
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:50,360
Speaker 1: Uh, all the ones I got I deserved, right, not

1148
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:52,880
Speaker 1: even gonna lie it, right, I'm not even gonna lie

1149
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:55,319
Speaker 1: through the head man at the rep ones, right. I

1150
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:57,319
Speaker 1: got hit NodD threw the head man at him.

1151
00:54:57,360 --> 00:54:58,719
Speaker 4: Right. I regret that, I.

1152
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:03,520
Speaker 1: Mean because you know, I couldn't afford that five thousand at.

1153
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:06,200
Speaker 4: The time there was my rookie season. I can afford

1154
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:09,759
Speaker 4: that five thousand at the time. But for the most part,

1155
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:12,840
Speaker 4: you know, I gave.

1156
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:20,440
Speaker 1: Refs respect because I understood. You know, uh, it is difficult,

1157
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:23,960
Speaker 1: right reffing in real time trying to see everything, and

1158
00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:27,280
Speaker 1: our job is to you know, you know, players like me, Okay,

1159
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:29,759
Speaker 1: you sitting here, you sitting here, you down there. There's

1160
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:31,839
Speaker 1: certain things that I can do that you can't see

1161
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:35,080
Speaker 1: right right, Like I know you are looking here, he's

1162
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:37,640
Speaker 1: looking there, so I can palm the ball knowing that

1163
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:41,600
Speaker 1: nobody's actually looking at me directly. So sometimes when you

1164
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 1: see players and someone's taking all these extra steps, for

1165
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 1: the most part, they're not looking at the feet, right,

1166
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:51,319
Speaker 1: They're not they're not looking down at the feet. They're

1167
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:53,560
Speaker 1: looking at the catch, his body moved. They're not actually

1168
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 1: looking in real time at at at players feet. So

1169
00:55:56,960 --> 00:56:00,960
Speaker 1: it's one of those things where players understanding and where

1170
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 1: these eyes sights are. So you know, when you're talking

1171
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:10,920
Speaker 1: about pettiness, oh man, refs aw Man, I don't like

1172
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:13,520
Speaker 1: shit like this like I like Tony Brothers because usually,

1173
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:17,600
Speaker 1: for the most part, he don't get emotional like this. Right,

1174
00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:22,160
Speaker 1: this was an emotional tech and I'm sorry he should

1175
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:22,799
Speaker 1: be fine for that.

1176
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:27,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it looked like, Hey, you called me over

1177
00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 2: to have me to explain something. I come over, I walked,

1178
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:31,799
Speaker 2: I walk over here to explain it to you. You

1179
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 2: ignore me once I got here. But it's gonna be interesting.

1180
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:36,920
Speaker 2: It would be interesting to see. I don't know if

1181
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 2: anybody question Tony and ask him why did he give

1182
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:40,960
Speaker 2: the John Tel tech?

1183
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:42,600
Speaker 4: Did he say something?

1184
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 2: What caused first of all, what caused him to go

1185
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:48,719
Speaker 2: over there to carry and have that conversation. And it

1186
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:52,000
Speaker 2: looks like Murray didn't say anything. And if Murray didn't anything,

1187
00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 2: why would you tee him up? So it'd be interesting

1188
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:57,120
Speaker 2: if a pool reporter, if somebody asked, why did he

1189
00:56:57,160 --> 00:56:57,600
Speaker 2: get a tech?

1190
00:56:57,640 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 4: I don't know. It hadn't come out yet, so I

1191
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:02,359
Speaker 4: was just think just the You know, it's it's one

1192
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:03,520
Speaker 4: of those things where.

1193
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:06,800
Speaker 1: Because there's this big old rivalry right now between players,

1194
00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:11,279
Speaker 1: and you know you have to set an example. We know,

1195
00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:15,960
Speaker 1: we know you do penalize the referees. We know you

1196
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:18,360
Speaker 1: take them off certain games, they lose certain privileges.

1197
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:21,840
Speaker 4: We know that, but we don't see it right.

1198
00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:26,680
Speaker 1: Even if you don't find Tony, say you did. Tony's

1199
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 1: been fined five thousand for you know, the the unnecessary

1200
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:34,560
Speaker 1: technical against Murray. That right there lets us know they're

1201
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:38,440
Speaker 1: being held accountable. If nothing happens and you do something

1202
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:38,960
Speaker 1: behind the.

1203
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:41,680
Speaker 4: Scenes, what do you think we're thinking?

1204
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:49,800
Speaker 1: Sometimes you sometimes doing something relieve stress. Right, nothing happens

1205
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:53,800
Speaker 1: to Tony brothers his manhood by saying, hey, I'm gonna

1206
00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:58,320
Speaker 1: fake like I'm gonna find you for the public, right.

1207
00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 4: And I don't think the NBA do that enough.

1208
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:04,960
Speaker 2: Right because when players criticized the officials, they get fine quick.

1209
00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:07,680
Speaker 2: So if it got me, I mean yeah, when they

1210
00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:09,240
Speaker 2: criticized them in public, they get fined.

1211
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:11,800
Speaker 4: So yeah.

1212
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:10,560
Speaker 1: Uh.

1213
00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:14,240
Speaker 2: The crazy I think the craziest penalty that I've ever

1214
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:16,920
Speaker 2: got is that we're playing the Super Bowl and we

1215
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:19,440
Speaker 2: called a play and they called me for a holding

1216
00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:22,320
Speaker 2: after TV ran the ball down to the one yard line,

1217
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:25,560
Speaker 2: and to Mike Shanahan's credit, he told official that wasn't

1218
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:25,840
Speaker 2: a hole.

1219
00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 4: He was so confident that that wasn't a hole.

1220
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 2: We called the exact same play and I got we

1221
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:33,760
Speaker 2: got the exact same result and TV ran it back

1222
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:36,000
Speaker 2: down to the one yard line from five yards for

1223
00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:39,200
Speaker 2: the back. So you should ain't be forgetting five if yards,

1224
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:42,200
Speaker 2: But I mean it was the Super Bowl, bro, that

1225
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:43,880
Speaker 2: could have called that could have cost us the game.

1226
00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:47,160
Speaker 2: And now how do I I mean? And you know

1227
00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:50,880
Speaker 2: what today's game, today's time, man sharp, you cast the

1228
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:53,520
Speaker 2: Broncos the Super Bowl without holding call you wasn't to tell,

1229
00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 2: you know. For the most part, Gil, I kind of

1230
00:58:56,320 --> 00:58:58,920
Speaker 2: escaped my career. I did what I did, went to

1231
00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:01,200
Speaker 2: the Pro Bowl. We're all pro one through Bowl, didn't

1232
00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:03,600
Speaker 2: lose any of the games. And so for the most part,

1233
00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:06,400
Speaker 2: I'm pretty good. I'm pretty good in that area. So

1234
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:09,000
Speaker 2: fans can't really say, well, hey, you got to hold

1235
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:10,760
Speaker 2: it call it cost your team a game, or you

1236
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:13,440
Speaker 2: dropped the touchdown in a playoff game that cost.

1237
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:15,520
Speaker 4: Your team a game. So I feel pretty good about that.

1238
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:18,640
Speaker 2: So kudos to mic for believing because I said, Mike,

1239
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:21,000
Speaker 2: I didn't hold it, and you look at the screen.

1240
00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:23,000
Speaker 2: I didn't hold him. I didn't have my hands outside.

1241
00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:26,320
Speaker 2: My hands was inside. But hey, you know how didn't

1242
00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:28,240
Speaker 2: do They turned to the fisher because they couldn't get

1243
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:30,560
Speaker 2: off the block, and he did like this, hed the

1244
00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:33,200
Speaker 2: fisher through the flag. Mike called it against him running again.

1245
00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:37,320
Speaker 4: He so he sold it. Oh he old he did?

1246
00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:40,680
Speaker 2: Beat on your high Yeah, yeah, that was as a

1247
00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:42,760
Speaker 2: matter of fact. He the next year he became my

1248
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:46,080
Speaker 2: teammate self joinan her. Oh god, he was in green Bad.

1249
00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:48,200
Speaker 2: He was in green Bad at the time we beat him.

1250
00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:51,000
Speaker 2: He came over there. Uh, he came to us in

1251
00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:52,560
Speaker 2: ninety eight. He went a Super Bowl with us, and

1252
00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:54,120
Speaker 2: I think that was his last year. He retired after that.

1253
00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:57,240
Speaker 4: Okay,