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Speaker 1: productions we are doing. Help me out here, guys. Season
Speaker 1: six episodes, then Gilmore, you've been Gilmore? There you go,
Speaker 1: thirteen fourteen? Is this thirteen fourteen? This is fourteen fourteen.
Speaker 1: It's one of those fourteen you've been gilmoured.
Speaker 3: I'm so nervous. We're moving so quickly through it all.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm going to do? Read? What are
Speaker 1: you going to do? The experiment? Do whatever scientist does
Speaker 1: in the history of science, you just repeat the experiment.
Speaker 1: We need to gather more research and evidence. Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 4: Have has there been any rewatch podcast that's finished and is.
Speaker 1: Like west Wing?
Speaker 5: There's probably others, but I know West Wing finished and
Speaker 5: then they just like kind of went away.
Speaker 1: They can get specials.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they finished every episode of Wes.
Speaker 1: Well, we have it. I think we have it more
Speaker 1: dedicated for.
Speaker 3: And we have a plan too. We have a plan
Speaker 3: of what we're going to do.
Speaker 1: There is a method to this anyway. Joined by my
Speaker 1: intrepid Crewe, Susanne French, Tara sud Amy, Sugarman.
Speaker 3: Merry Christmas, Happy New Year, guys.
Speaker 1: Merry Christmas, Happy New Year every one. And just a reminder, y'all,
Speaker 1: did you get your tickets yet to the event? The
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Speaker 1: to two weeks away from it? Yeah, oh my god, yah, yeah,
Speaker 1: we'rewo weeks yeah, two weeks. Do the link? What's the link?
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Speaker 1: So So we got we got a live event, we
Speaker 1: got celebrity guests, we got a Cakeo, we got a
Speaker 1: Sally Strotherers, we got a Sebastian Bach, we got a
Speaker 1: Vanessa Morano, the most beloved character of all time. And and
Speaker 1: you've got snow, and we've got oh, we have the snow. Snow.
Speaker 1: Oh it's going to snow.
Speaker 5: You know how I figured out how to do the snow.
Speaker 5: I went to the Nutcracker over the holidays, and it
Speaker 5: fully snows in the Nutcracker.
Speaker 4: So I was like snope.
Speaker 5: I don't know that we're doing the snope because that
Speaker 5: can be so slippery.
Speaker 3: That's the big thing.
Speaker 1: So so what did you did you go backstage and
Speaker 1: corner somebody and say how did you do it?
Speaker 5: No? I just started asking some ballerinas. How do they
Speaker 5: do that?
Speaker 1: You cornered the ballerinas? How do they do it? How
Speaker 1: the ballerina is? Now, Well, I'm not gonna reveal. You're
Speaker 1: not gonna it's a balla ballerina, sugarman.
Speaker 5: Some internet intellectual property. Snow is that what it's called? Like,
Speaker 5: what's the They have the rights to the snow. I
Speaker 5: can't give away the recipe. Wow, snope, that's snow soap.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: They do it at Disneyland.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah right, and they do it on that like
Speaker 5: holiday road thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Oh did you go amy this year?
Speaker 5: Yeah? I went to the Halloween one. And it does
Speaker 5: get a lot of sort of snope in your hair.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well they they they push out a little too
Speaker 4: much like it's supposed to be subtle. That's like full on,
Speaker 4: like soap in your hair.
Speaker 1: Well, we have all kinds of we have a cooking segment.
Speaker 1: It's it's it's gonna be like and this is the
Speaker 1: old Tonight Show Theater. This is Johnny Carson's old.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be a party. It's like gonna be a
Speaker 3: really cool party.
Speaker 1: A lot of pressure, a lot of pressure.
Speaker 3: On you, hard job. It's gonna be done by the time.
Speaker 1: Zac Par, Johnny Carson, Jay Leno, Jimmy Fallon and now.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Jimmy Fallon was never in that in that room
Speaker 5: because he was.
Speaker 1: Talking about great tradition. Leno show, Leno was in there
Speaker 1: was Leno in there. Yeah, my goodness. Wow, all right,
Speaker 1: no no pressure at all. Anyway, get your tickets everybody.
Speaker 1: There's a live stream too that begins on what January
Speaker 1: twenty five, and that'll that'll go for a week. So
Speaker 1: there's a there's a ticket for that, there's a link
Speaker 1: for that. But get your tickets a live show. They're
Speaker 1: selling like hotcakes. Susanne ready for the synopsisizations of The
Speaker 1: Queen Consort?
Speaker 6: All right, Season six, episode fourteen, You've Been Gilmourd. This
Speaker 6: aired on February seventh, two thousand and six. Luke joins
Speaker 6: Friday Night Dinner with Emily and Richard, and he and
Speaker 6: Laura I both get Gilmourd. Murray is voted as the
Speaker 6: new editor of the Yale Daily News, but at the
Speaker 6: expense of her room with Paris, so she makes a
Speaker 6: big choice in her relationship with Logan. Plus, Christopher goes
Speaker 6: to Yale for a tour and gets to know Logan
Speaker 6: a bit more.
Speaker 1: M hm, doesn't it make you want to do? Five
Speaker 1: four three two? Remember in the open?
Speaker 5: So in the open, when everything's all unhinged and they're
Speaker 5: having issues, then they just kept counting to five four
Speaker 5: three two.
Speaker 6: I thought that was cute.
Speaker 5: Yeah, what do you all think? Sorry, Scott, I cut
Speaker 5: you off. What do you all think of that episode?
Speaker 1: What'd you guys think?
Speaker 4: I liked it.
Speaker 1: I liked it.
Speaker 6: The last episode made me a little anxious, but this
Speaker 6: one kind of made me happy. Like it was just funny.
Speaker 6: There were more funny parts in this one. I thought
Speaker 6: I enjoyed it.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, big, big, fun funny great episode.
Speaker 5: Yeah, less controversy less yeah, sort of.
Speaker 6: It was like a fun watch. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, thus things for us to all fight about more
Speaker 1: like this is just a good gilmore Yeah. Yeah, solid show,
Speaker 1: solid show. You know. The dinner table stuff was fantastic.
Speaker 1: Some of the best.
Speaker 3: Yeah, bears and yours.
Speaker 6: Yeah, we got two Friday Night dinners in this one.
Speaker 1: The revealing of who Luke really is and how they
Speaker 1: feel about him.
Speaker 5: I think they're really coming around on him, though. I
Speaker 5: think we we'll get to it. They definitely consider him
Speaker 5: family mm hmmm at this point.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, they're they're putting their best foot forward, aren't they. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The one thing is reluctantly That.
Speaker 3: Threw me, and we'll get to it.
Speaker 5: Is all of a sudden, they knew about the kid,
Speaker 5: they knew about April, and I was like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 5: how did.
Speaker 6: That they That was in the last episode, during the Friday,
Speaker 6: that Friday night dinner scene with the crazy camera and
Speaker 6: reveal it, Richard asked Laurel how Luke was doing it.
Speaker 6: She goes, oh, he has a kid.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, it was so that scene was so fast.
Speaker 3: I missed that.
Speaker 6: So presumably they had some other conversation about it after that,
Speaker 6: but she yeah, that night, that scene was so fast.
Speaker 1: How large is your mug? It's pretty large to the
Speaker 1: massive mug, massive pink.
Speaker 4: It's like it's like how big Laura I drinks her coffee.
Speaker 1: That is what I call a holiday mug. That's right, true.
Speaker 5: So okay, so we have the open dinner that we're
Speaker 5: kind of talking about, and it was good.
Speaker 1: There's not a lot to digest because it was so
Speaker 1: like the roses are amazing. I love shrimp Luke.
Speaker 5: And then we do have the June third sort of
Speaker 5: issue again because she again says that's the date and
Speaker 5: she hasn't told them it's postponed yet.
Speaker 4: I like how she's like, are we in town? Like yeah,
Speaker 4: are like, let me cancel all my plans. My daughter's
Speaker 4: getting married. It's like it's not that soon, Like right, like,
Speaker 4: where are we in the year January?
Speaker 3: It's like the holidays are January. It's like winter.
Speaker 5: If I was invited to something six months from now,
Speaker 5: I'm not going to be like, that's so soon.
Speaker 3: I understand for a.
Speaker 5: Bride to plant, it may be soon, but like it's.
Speaker 1: Soon, so are we are we going to let's discuss
Speaker 1: larelized cooking techniques? How she just throws stuff on a
Speaker 1: pant in random She'll get a bag of me oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, put them on top of whatever that was.
Speaker 1: Here's what I thought.
Speaker 5: That made me want a gag. But also did it
Speaker 5: seem like it was pizza with tater tots? Yes?
Speaker 1: Right now.
Speaker 4: And that's what threw me off. I was like, what
Speaker 4: is just like shoves it in the oven?
Speaker 6: Yeah, but like I thought, you know, that's actually I
Speaker 6: might have to put that in my own repertoire.
Speaker 4: I don't hate it together, but the way she's she's
Speaker 4: baking it, I was.
Speaker 1: Like, this of starches for me, kind of like a
Speaker 1: lot of certain certain brilliance to that. You know, it
Speaker 1: really just cuts through all the bs and there you go.
Speaker 1: It would work. I think.
Speaker 5: I think if you put the frozen pizzas and then
Speaker 5: you put the frozen tater tops on.
Speaker 1: I think they've both proven that they're both you know,
Speaker 1: park goat. They lilied any and enjoy it and it
Speaker 1: doesn't affect them and they never gain weight.
Speaker 3: It's that made me really kind of gag though.
Speaker 6: The magic of.
Speaker 1: TV's it's it's amazing and yes and magical. Oh yeah.
Speaker 5: And then they were going to add a turnover. Remember
Speaker 5: she says like do you want raspberry or apple? Yes?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Oh god, I did. I did like the I
Speaker 1: did like the roryes a Yale swag? Yes, I thought
Speaker 1: so do. I thought she kind of looked badass, you know,
Speaker 1: strutting into the living room and that stuff, you know,
Speaker 1: wearing colors with pride, you know.
Speaker 5: And then we sort of get the message that Christopher,
Speaker 5: they haven't really talked to him, what's going on. And
Speaker 5: then you know, Loralai really says you should invite him
Speaker 5: to Yale, like he would really like that mm, which yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely I agree with her on that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he's paying for it, like she should reach out.
Speaker 4: We get it, like, not like it has to be
Speaker 4: like a weekly thing, but like let him come see
Speaker 4: the campus, you.
Speaker 3: Know, yeah, totally.
Speaker 1: Oh you know what I did?
Speaker 3: I want to ask you guys.
Speaker 5: They don't toast their pop tarts. Have you guys noticed
Speaker 5: that they eat him straight out of the box.
Speaker 1: Do you do that something sometimes you don't have the time,
Speaker 1: hence you have pop tarts. It's not something you invest
Speaker 1: time in preparing.
Speaker 6: There was not one episode. I can't even remember which
Speaker 6: season it was two. Maybe it was in a cold
Speaker 6: open and they were doing the scene in the kitchen
Speaker 6: where they were making breakfast and switching out the coffee
Speaker 6: pots and they toasted. I always laughed because she toasted
Speaker 6: the pop tart but then just put it like on
Speaker 6: a paper towel. On her bare hands. Okay, you've ever
Speaker 6: toasted a pop tart? But they're like seven hundred degrees
Speaker 6: when they come out of the toaster, and I always
Speaker 6: thought that was fune.
Speaker 1: So when they didn't toast it in this.
Speaker 6: Episode, I'm like, Okay, that's that was more realistic.
Speaker 3: I'm not a thousand percent sure I've ever had a
Speaker 3: pop tart?
Speaker 1: Really, Oh, come on, you've no.
Speaker 3: I'm being real with you, guys. I'm not sure.
Speaker 1: It's actually very brave of you to confess this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel like we support you.
Speaker 6: I'll definitely the ogs are good, the new ones.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Strawberry, I'll definitely have one at the live show.
Speaker 1: You know, I agree, the strawberry pop tart is quite excellent.
Speaker 4: Actually, Amy, they have it. They have it in the
Speaker 4: machine at the iHeart Theater because I was starving one
Speaker 4: day and I got a pop tart.
Speaker 1: So there is at the Life.
Speaker 3: There's a vending machine at the iHeart Theater.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's in the back where like staff checks and
Speaker 4: they have pop charts in it in the vending machine. Wait,
Speaker 4: he was real desper I was real desperate.
Speaker 6: We should move that out to the lobby for there is.
Speaker 5: All right, so we get a quick mention of Celaris,
Speaker 5: which I also thought was a terrible movie, and I'm
Speaker 5: sure we'll talk about that in up culture. So Paris
Speaker 5: is like in her Now we go to the paper
Speaker 5: and Paris is in her bunker, which I thought was
Speaker 5: a nice name for it, because I kept calling it
Speaker 5: like a weird cubicle. But to name it a bunker, beautiful,
Speaker 5: mind totally. And she's heating up her soup in the can.
Speaker 5: So they've all spoken, meaning Rory and the Yale Paper staff,
Speaker 5: and Rory has to go tell Paris you're out.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 3: She was the wrong person to take that on.
Speaker 1: I thought, I mean, I thought she handled it very well.
Speaker 4: We just kind of get why she was nominated to
Speaker 4: do it. No one else wants to talk to Paris.
Speaker 6: Yeah, or would she believe them.
Speaker 5: If it was anyone else, she would have been like,
Speaker 5: you know, get out of here and just keep going.
Speaker 3: But you knew she was going to be unhinged about it.
Speaker 4: Paris, Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6: I mean she's so far over the edge at this
Speaker 6: point that everybody's like just waiting for her to blow.
Speaker 6: So I think Rory was the logical choice to go
Speaker 6: drop the bomb.
Speaker 5: On her, and I truly love when she comes out
Speaker 5: and then gives a speech of her resigning.
Speaker 3: I'm like, so, actually how.
Speaker 1: It would go.
Speaker 4: That's so Paris.
Speaker 3: And when she says you're going to be a.
Speaker 5: Doctor, a surgeon, you're going to be a lawyer, a judge,
Speaker 5: like I.
Speaker 1: Don't know, and then she says good night and good luck.
Speaker 1: You had to laugh little Edward R. Merrell totally.
Speaker 5: I mean okay, so I sort of it was time, right,
Speaker 5: Like I was happy to get rid of Paris.
Speaker 3: At the paper, she's annoying.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I like her, but small doses yea.
Speaker 1: So help she needs help. She needs to not be
Speaker 1: in college and she needs to be in therapy. She's
Speaker 1: a deeply troubled person.
Speaker 3: And where's Doyle. We even seen Doyle in a minute?
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, wow, yeah, he's probably he's probably in
Speaker 1: therapy to deal with the trauma.
Speaker 5: So then we go to the scene where and I
Speaker 5: actually really like the scene. So it's Luke and Loralai
Speaker 5: at the inn and he's saying, I don't I don't
Speaker 5: want to go, like your parents are not warm people.
Speaker 5: I love that he sort of calls it out and
Speaker 5: they both are sort of they're both on the same
Speaker 5: page about the parents. It's not like like it would
Speaker 5: suck if you were like loved your parents and your
Speaker 5: fiance hates your parents.
Speaker 3: Right, We're not in that situation here.
Speaker 5: And then we start to realize Luke's doing the jobs
Speaker 5: around the inn.
Speaker 1: And at first I was so.
Speaker 5: Irritated by Michelle, like me too, Why is he being
Speaker 5: so annoying about this?
Speaker 4: I completely forgot his storyline in this, so when it
Speaker 4: wraps around like comes background, I was like, all right,
Speaker 4: but no, I agree. I was like, we're having such
Speaker 4: a jerk to Luke, like he's helping gotch a jerk?
Speaker 1: Well he you know, all of his patterns were tossed off.
Speaker 1: No more meetings with Laurel I making lists at Weston's diner, right,
Speaker 1: and why did they do it? They're and not Luke's.
Speaker 1: This is what I want. That's a great question.
Speaker 3: I'm assuming Westerns is closer to the Inn.
Speaker 1: We didn't have to think that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Michelle also frequent Weston's.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I think that's right. He's more of a
Speaker 3: Westerns guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well he doesn't come to Luke's.
Speaker 3: I guess, yeah, only like once in a blue moon.
Speaker 1: Yeah, He obviously doesn't like change, and he likes his
Speaker 1: patterns and that's that. And he certainly doesn't like Luke.
Speaker 1: Luke smells, Luke wears a hat indoors, Luke talks to guests.
Speaker 1: You know, Michelle is Is thinks he's running the writs
Speaker 1: in Paris, you know, right, that's that's his aspiration, and
Speaker 1: here he is in Stars Hollow, Connecticut and the Dragonfly. Yeah.
Speaker 5: I do love the line though, Like when Laura's talking
Speaker 5: to Michelle and she says, I gave him a hundred
Speaker 5: free snuggles.
Speaker 3: You don't like my snuggle bucks.
Speaker 1: Snuggle Bucks, right, right, right right. That's something with this episode.
Speaker 5: There's not like there's not a lot for us to
Speaker 5: like debate or be upset.
Speaker 1: It's just cute lines.
Speaker 3: Like, it's just cute, funny stuff.
Speaker 1: Isn't it horrible for a podcast when an episode is
Speaker 1: so smooth.
Speaker 5: Argue about So we go back to the paper and
Speaker 5: now they're trying to figure out who's going to be editor.
Speaker 5: Oh no, yes, that's right. So we go back to
Speaker 5: the paper. They're trying to figure out who's going to
Speaker 5: be editor. It ends up being Rory. Obviously. The one
Speaker 5: thing I didn't understand is where was Logan. Logan's not
Speaker 5: like Logan, I guess just come to the paper when
Speaker 5: he feels like it.
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, when he does everything better to do.
Speaker 4: Well, Rory calls will come. But other than that, he's home.
Speaker 3: He's yeah, I guess he doesn't have to deal with it.
Speaker 1: So then we go to the.
Speaker 5: Apartment and we see all her stuff in the hallway
Speaker 5: and you just immediately know she's Paris has evicted her.
Speaker 5: And Paris looked so scary in that scene. Did you
Speaker 5: guys think that was like intentionally here?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was Jack Nicholson. It was so over and
Speaker 1: over and over again with the chain and the whole
Speaker 1: thing that that part was funny. That was funny. That
Speaker 1: was actually funny because she the bit the gag was great.
Speaker 1: She kept opening the door and the chain was moving.
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, yeah, and even funny later on when the
Speaker 5: poor woman comes out of her apartment and was like
Speaker 5: turn left at the chair and jump over the.
Speaker 3: Yeah you've got this, okay, so.
Speaker 1: Proving what a great true friend she really is.
Speaker 5: Literally she's not a friend at all, like that. We
Speaker 5: should have a discussion about that. She's never happy for
Speaker 5: her friend to have anything.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: Then we go back to the end, we've got more
Speaker 3: of you know, Michelle.
Speaker 5: And Luke.
Speaker 1: By the way, Yeah, it's all cute, gentlemen. It's I
Speaker 1: enjoyed Michelle more in this than I think I've ever
Speaker 1: enjoyed him in anything.
Speaker 5: And then I was sort of heartwarmed by when we
Speaker 5: find out that it's really because he's missing Lorli.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so sweet. It's just took us.
Speaker 5: It took us a second to get there, but well.
Speaker 4: It reminded me of when he was working at the
Speaker 4: other hotel. And then Laura I and Suki do.
Speaker 3: You remember that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was sort of like a fake w Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: remind me of that time where he's like he just
Speaker 4: wants to be involved. I think that's really all he
Speaker 4: ever wants.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he wants to be a part of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Right.
Speaker 5: So then we get Rory on the phone with Logan.
Speaker 5: I actually really liked this scene. She tells her sorry.
Speaker 5: She tells him that she's editor and that Paris kicked
Speaker 5: her out and he doesn't know how to get Ginsue knives,
Speaker 5: and then he sort of says, come on, Ace, just
Speaker 5: come here, dude.
Speaker 6: Would you remember what ginsu knives are I feel like.
Speaker 3: That was obviously you don't remember the knives.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 1: In the can.
Speaker 5: There was like an it was before infomercials, but it
Speaker 5: was sort of like an infomercial turn and forget they
Speaker 5: were these nineteen ninety nine knives, but you got like
Speaker 5: twenty knives and they were allegedly the best knives of
Speaker 5: all time, and they could cut through a can and on.
Speaker 4: The comercial, Yeah, I remember, Okay, I just didn't know
Speaker 4: what they were called.
Speaker 3: What else did those things do? What are they called again?
Speaker 1: Cut through phone books and things like that, I mean, demonstrations, wiles,
Speaker 1: and then they'd go slice the tomato right afterwards, totally cut.
Speaker 4: It's like a twelve set of knives. I see it.
Speaker 4: I remember these, right?
Speaker 3: Are they still around?
Speaker 1: I mean I don't know.
Speaker 4: I mean yeah, you can literally get it off Amazon.
Speaker 3: You can get on you can still totally buy GINSU knives.
Speaker 3: How much are they?
Speaker 4: One hundred bucks?
Speaker 3: Ooh a price hike Amazon inflation? Right, I swear back
Speaker 3: then they were nineteen ninety nine.
Speaker 4: So Amazon has them. It's a bamboo with a bamboo
Speaker 4: block new or used, No, it's new for eight piece
Speaker 4: knife set.
Speaker 1: One hundred dollars now ninety nine nine, Amy, the dollar
Speaker 1: is worthless now everything's hip. You know that it's the same.
Speaker 4: It's Amazon's one hundred bucks, targets one hundred bucks. Low's
Speaker 4: is one hundred and twenty.
Speaker 5: I guess it's been forty years, so because I definitely
Speaker 5: was seeing that out in the eighties.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh my god. Wow, times they are a change.
Speaker 5: And anyway, I sort of did write Michelle such a
Speaker 5: cry baby, but then I came around on it. I
Speaker 5: was like, yeah, and when he says, you know, money
Speaker 5: isn't everything, and then she says, what are you doing
Speaker 5: this afternoon?
Speaker 3: I'm not going for your pity cake.
Speaker 1: It's just all good.
Speaker 3: He wants to put Luke in a jumpsuit.
Speaker 5: So then we go to Christopher at Yale, which I
Speaker 5: actually thought was was cute.
Speaker 3: Oh no, you don't want it.
Speaker 4: I didn't care for it either.
Speaker 1: I didn't.
Speaker 6: I hate when he tries to act like he's Rory's peer,
Speaker 6: like he tries to act like a college student and.
Speaker 1: Did not get that.
Speaker 3: I did not get that. Earth useus ah, I did
Speaker 3: not get that at all.
Speaker 6: And he's joking around with Logan, Well, this is later,
Speaker 6: but he's joking around with Logan but like, oh I
Speaker 6: love your Xbox. I'm going to move in here with you.
Speaker 6: And they're all, you know, comparing prep schools they got
Speaker 6: kicked out of.
Speaker 1: See.
Speaker 5: I just well that, okay, that was a little we
Speaker 5: could talk about that. But I feel like he's still dadish.
Speaker 1: I do.
Speaker 3: You have to remember he's a very young dad, but
Speaker 3: he never.
Speaker 4: But he never was a dad. That's the thing. It's like,
Speaker 4: I think like he's trying to make up for twenty years.
Speaker 1: And he's boy. David's very boyish anyway, right, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's very youthful and very young looking anyway for his age. Right,
Speaker 1: He's got that boyish smile. And you know, I will
Speaker 1: say he doesn't again come off like a dad.
Speaker 5: I always have critiques of the background actors, and I'm
Speaker 5: sorry they if they So here's two interesting things. I
Speaker 5: watched the scene twice because she says did those two
Speaker 5: girls check you out? So I totally missed it.
Speaker 1: Oh it was pretty it was pretty obvious.
Speaker 5: Then I watched it again and I was like, is
Speaker 5: that too obvious?
Speaker 3: Like that would be really hard acting. Actually, I think
Speaker 3: act like I'm.
Speaker 1: A look at somebody they walked by. They turn around
Speaker 1: and they looked at it.
Speaker 5: There's looking at somebody and there's checking somebody out.
Speaker 1: They checked him out. It was all it was. It's
Speaker 1: from that distance. They had to be a little obvious
Speaker 1: about it so the audience could pick it up, like
Speaker 1: doing a close up of those girls and you know,
Speaker 1: they just did it in one shot.
Speaker 4: Which I thought that scene or that moment was a
Speaker 4: little awkward.
Speaker 1: Well it was supposed to be.
Speaker 4: Well, but just like Laura, I mean not Laura Ry'
Speaker 4: is like, oh, what happens to mom too? And I'm
Speaker 4: just like, I don't I just.
Speaker 6: I don't know.
Speaker 4: It felt weird to me.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I hate having hot parents. Like that was weird.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the line. Sorry, thanks to That was the
Speaker 4: line where it threw me off. If she didn't say that,
Speaker 4: I think it would have been fine.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I think if you had a dad
Speaker 5: that's only sixteen years older than you and you're at
Speaker 5: college now and he's hot, girls are going to check
Speaker 5: him out.
Speaker 3: But I would be a little bit more gagged about it.
Speaker 4: Like right, she seemed like she seemed like, oh, like
Speaker 4: this is normal, like parent, Yeah.
Speaker 3: You'd be a little bit more.
Speaker 1: I think if she had had a very close relationship
Speaker 1: with him growing up, it would have gagged her. The
Speaker 1: fact that she doesn't feel so close to him in
Speaker 1: that regard and does that's interesting him. Then she can
Speaker 1: sort of objectify it.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 5: We talked about it in the last episode that when
Speaker 5: in a pop culture when I tell Teddy Mellencamp her
Speaker 5: dad's hot, it does make her gag. It does make
Speaker 5: you gag a little bit. M h, Yeah, I think
Speaker 5: you're right. Scott literally almost called you, Luke.
Speaker 1: That's I actually respond to both and I sign official
Speaker 1: Dad's so funny.
Speaker 3: Tory Spelling says she totally responds to Donna. She just
Speaker 3: has to. She gets called Donna like as much as
Speaker 3: she gets called Tori. Anyway. Uh, I think that you're right.
Speaker 5: Like everything you're saying is like, yeah, like, I don't
Speaker 5: know that has complicated her situation with these young parents
Speaker 5: and they are cute.
Speaker 1: She doesn't look to him as her protector or her
Speaker 1: father or somebody, you know what I mean. There isn't
Speaker 1: there aren't those memories and it's just not there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you know he can't pretend it's there as much
Speaker 1: as he wants to. And I think that's the part
Speaker 1: that was difficult to watch, that he sort of stepped
Speaker 1: in and he was kind of oblivious to this, you know,
Speaker 1: the past, and how they don't have a really strong
Speaker 1: bond and everybody relaxed down, happy because he's paying for everything.
Speaker 1: But don't let it get to your head, pal, because
Speaker 1: you're we're not really as dead, right.
Speaker 5: Imagine if he would have flexed and been like, oh,
Speaker 5: my daughter shouldn't be living with her boyfriend, be like.
Speaker 3: Who are you bro?
Speaker 5: What? Right before we get to that, though, I do
Speaker 5: like the they're listening to that teacher, that professor. She's like,
Speaker 5: I had this professor last year. He was a Nobel
Speaker 5: Prize winner. And he goes the dull dude.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 5: There's a lot of funny lines for me in this episode.
Speaker 5: So we go to the cafeteria. He wants to see
Speaker 5: where his kid lives, and immediately we go into the
Speaker 5: building and I'm like, this is so fancy with the lobby,
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, the elevator and even the door looked fancy,
Speaker 5: and that you go in the apartment and it's just
Speaker 5: like so literally so fancy.
Speaker 4: It's literally a penthouse.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's the furniture of the pool table, this couch
Speaker 5: is the every detail is fancy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just all fancy.
Speaker 5: So yeah, okay, So what did you guys think when
Speaker 5: they're going back and forth about all the schools they
Speaker 5: got kicked out of. I was a little bit like,
Speaker 5: why are you excited about the fact that your daughter's
Speaker 5: boyfriend's been kicked out of like eleven prep schools.
Speaker 4: My first thought is that Rory's dating basically her dad.
Speaker 4: Oh that was my thought exactly.
Speaker 1: Ooh, I did not get that.
Speaker 5: But wow, you're totally right, which kind of pushing back
Speaker 5: on the family.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean it's like Christopher's happy about it, like
Speaker 6: that they have all this in common. He's not upset
Speaker 6: that his daughter's boyfriend got kicked out of all these schools.
Speaker 6: You just thinks it's normal.
Speaker 4: He's like bonding over it, right, exactly.
Speaker 1: It's either manipulative or he's so immature that's the only
Speaker 1: level that he can relate to.
Speaker 3: I think it's the latter.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I don't see any really, I don't see
Speaker 1: any comparison with Logan at all. I think Logan's a
Speaker 1: hell of a lot smarter, he's got a bigger future, brighter.
Speaker 3: I agree with that too, with that too.
Speaker 1: And I think I think Logan is a more purposeful
Speaker 1: and this is going to sound Counterhoulder, but a more
Speaker 1: thoughtful person. I think. I think you're right. I think
Speaker 1: Logan is uh, he has the potential to be a
Speaker 1: really great man. Yeah, I think it's all there. He's
Speaker 1: just got to get out of his youth and get
Speaker 1: out of his anger and get out of his dad's shadow,
Speaker 1: and he could he could be a great man. I
Speaker 1: agree that. I don't see that potential in Christopher, but I.
Speaker 5: Do think there's something to what they're saying. Is like,
Speaker 5: you do marry your dad. I have so many friends
Speaker 5: that are dealing with that problem, right, Like.
Speaker 4: It's not like copy and paste, but it's it's the
Speaker 4: same qualities in the sense of like they both were
Speaker 4: at these boarding schools and they both got kicked out,
Speaker 4: and they went to the same boarding schools, and they
Speaker 4: grew up in the same circle. Because Christopher's family is
Speaker 4: also very well off, and so it's he.
Speaker 1: Grew pushing back. Is it the family patriarchy?
Speaker 3: That's the right way to say it.
Speaker 4: I think so.
Speaker 5: I don't know, like both of them are sort of
Speaker 5: rebelling from what their families want.
Speaker 4: Yeah, which I guess I did the same, but Lurlai
Speaker 4: kind of has She kind of did her own thing
Speaker 4: and succeeded that way. When like Christopher literally got money
Speaker 4: like two weeks ago, you know, like he hasn't been
Speaker 4: doing that great and Laurai built something from the ground
Speaker 4: up and Christopher was just handed this money.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm. Yeah. So I mean, could there be anything
Speaker 1: more obnoxious than a really privileged loser who gets a
Speaker 1: bunch of money is now stupid rich and it's like
Speaker 1: arrogant about it. No, it's so And it's like I
Speaker 1: can't even think of anything more annoying, you know, like
Speaker 1: waltzing around her campus and you know, trashing Nobel laureates
Speaker 1: and good dull guy. I mean, it's it's just really sad. Yeah.
Speaker 6: And he even he even says when they're outside the
Speaker 6: apartment and talking about the doorman, he's he made some
Speaker 6: comment about I love slipping money to people to do things.
Speaker 5: Like oh yeah, that that was a little new That
Speaker 5: was a yeah, I forgot about that because.
Speaker 3: It's sort of a throwaway line.
Speaker 5: And then I was like all right, what did he say?
Speaker 5: So we then go to Luke and Laureli's house, Loreli's
Speaker 5: house that's going to be Luke's house, and he's in
Speaker 5: the suit looking good, and they're going over the list,
Speaker 5: which at first I was like, what are they going through?
Speaker 5: And then I'm like, oh my god, that's the list
Speaker 5: from Michelle. They need to change the chocolate brown to
Speaker 5: cocoa brown. So I enjoyed that, but I can't take
Speaker 5: my eyes off the bedroom.
Speaker 1: The bed that is so beautiful. The bedroom is so beautiful.
Speaker 5: Oh, and me think I've got last week to throw
Speaker 5: my one flag on the bathroom. The bathroom that fancy
Speaker 5: shower curtain. You know, if you have a bathroom that
Speaker 5: fancy last shower door.
Speaker 4: I was about to say, the same thing. It's never
Speaker 4: a curtain. Yeah, the bedroom looks cozy.
Speaker 3: Everything about that bedroom looks awesome.
Speaker 1: Now it was. It was actually a great set to
Speaker 1: be on because it was big and it was plush
Speaker 1: and it was nice. It's good. Yeah, and it's every other,
Speaker 1: every other, every other piece of furniture on that set
Speaker 1: when it was like kind of tiny, you know, but
Speaker 1: here we have like you know, new gaming.
Speaker 6: Yeah, like a proper, Like yeah, because at the point
Speaker 6: now where she's not having to buy thrift store furniture,
Speaker 6: so it's like she's kind of moved up in the world.
Speaker 5: The bedding alone is so like plush.
Speaker 1: The room is big.
Speaker 3: Like Scott said, why am I I almost called you?
Speaker 3: Luke's going on with my.
Speaker 1: We're all mixing up.
Speaker 4: Everyone's called Rory Lorelei like four times.
Speaker 5: So uh, I like those scenes now because I think
Speaker 5: that the bedroom used to be cramped and messy and
Speaker 5: so which I would sort of feel that when they
Speaker 5: were in there, anyone was in there, And now it's
Speaker 5: like those scenes are so I get why they're shooting
Speaker 5: a lot in there.
Speaker 1: Because it's it's cool.
Speaker 3: We go to Friday night dinner and wow, wow awesome,
Speaker 3: awesome scenes but wow, like all the people with insurance
Speaker 3: issues and then the payoff to that.
Speaker 1: At the end.
Speaker 3: They're so stress insurance.
Speaker 1: All the names.
Speaker 5: The names are the Brian Hunter, like the names are
Speaker 5: the best part they you know, and we saw Hebert Lansing.
Speaker 5: We get to this sort of gist of they are
Speaker 5: welcoming him into the family, you know, like in a
Speaker 5: weird twisted way, but like if they're worried about him
Speaker 5: being you know, someone coming after him for if he
Speaker 5: has bad insurance, it's going to impact them because we're
Speaker 5: all in this together. So even though it was so unhinged,
Speaker 5: I was like, oh, maybe they all care about each other.
Speaker 3: Weird Gilmoury way.
Speaker 6: Yeah. One thing I did notice about the scene is
Speaker 6: that we find out that Laurel I still does not
Speaker 6: know anything about Anna. She makes a comment about not
Speaker 6: knowing anything about April's mother, and that's when Luke was like, oh,
Speaker 6: I you know, trust my gut, I know her. And
Speaker 6: so that I thought that was an interesting little point
Speaker 6: that they made. Laurel I still doesn't really know anything
Speaker 6: about it.
Speaker 3: I think that makes sense, Like do you know what
Speaker 3: I mean?
Speaker 5: Like it's not that they're going to go have tea
Speaker 5: like maybe eventually, but like right now.
Speaker 6: There should have been a conversation between her and Luke about, Okay,
Speaker 6: who is April's mother? Like you think they would have
Speaker 6: had that conversation by this point, like tell me about her?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I could go either way.
Speaker 6: Yes, I think you're right, but I.
Speaker 1: Think she right.
Speaker 3: But there also is something about not asking about the ex.
Speaker 3: Sorry Scott, you.
Speaker 1: Guys, Yeah, yeah, yeah, right. I just think that Luke
Speaker 1: has you know, pulled up the drawbridge on this and like, hey,
Speaker 1: this is not open for discussion right now, and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna get to know my daughter and that's that and
Speaker 1: that's kind of how he is. And we also kind
Speaker 1: of find out some things about him in this episode
Speaker 1: that I mean really really hits home. And you know,
Speaker 1: he's not a man of let he's not. He's not.
Speaker 1: He doesn't read, he doesn't know about stocks, and he
Speaker 1: doesn't want to know about those things. And it's just
Speaker 1: I don't know it. Never I never really saw him
Speaker 1: that way, but that's I guess how limited his education
Speaker 1: truly is. But you know, there you go. And there
Speaker 1: were scenes I don't know it was from this episode
Speaker 1: of the prior episode where he's admitting that, you know,
Speaker 1: like you should get that book for dummies and no,
Speaker 1: like a dummy yaeometry. Yes, I'm you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: And it's I.
Speaker 5: Think yes and no, because I think if I had
Speaker 5: a twelve year old I can't remember geometry either, I
Speaker 5: definitely be getting the book for dummies. So I think
Speaker 5: there's both with him. It's like I actually think he's
Speaker 5: much smarter.
Speaker 1: Than maybe you. Everybody's giving him credit for he's really
Speaker 1: is smart, yeah, heart.
Speaker 6: He just didn't have a chance to get the college
Speaker 6: education that would have shown that, all right, because I
Speaker 6: think he's smart.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he wouldn't be able to banter with lore life.
Speaker 1: He didn't have a brain exactly.
Speaker 3: And I think he doesn't.
Speaker 5: It's not that he doesn't know about stocks in the
Speaker 5: stock market or whatever.
Speaker 3: I get that he said he didn't.
Speaker 5: He doesn't want to talk to Richard about it. That's
Speaker 5: not his He's not interested in that because we know
Speaker 5: he's good with money. He's right, he just decided to
Speaker 5: go and invest in real estate and you know he's
Speaker 5: an entrepreneur instead of putting his money in stock.
Speaker 1: So I always think it's like a choice too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I think Richard's the kind of a guy who
Speaker 1: can break down. He can look at a balance sheet
Speaker 1: and know what's going on with the company, whether it's
Speaker 1: investable or not. Right, Yes, he had He's had to
Speaker 1: manage his own fair fation for so many years. So
Speaker 1: that forces a person to learn about how to value
Speaker 1: a company, you know, put evaluation on a company, and
Speaker 1: how to analyze a stock and this kind of thing
Speaker 1: not in a super detailed way, but in a way
Speaker 1: that's going to either help you make a decision whether
Speaker 1: to buy it or not. Luke isn't at that level.
Speaker 1: He's never correct, right, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Yeah, probably by choice and by circumstance.
Speaker 1: Right, because he's putting his money into real estate, and
Speaker 1: that doesn't take a great deal of analysis other than
Speaker 1: you know, it's undermarket value. It's a goodbye, get it right.
Speaker 3: Right right? I do like in this one, so y'all
Speaker 3: are kind of coming out of.
Speaker 5: The dinner, right, your hair is all must and you're
Speaker 5: now having a total panic attack over insurance.
Speaker 1: And they do call.
Speaker 3: Out the title. Lorles says you've been gilmoured, and it.
Speaker 5: Is a bit of a throwaway line that's sort of
Speaker 5: stuck forever.
Speaker 1: What is the feeling? He describes a tightness in the chest, yes,
Speaker 1: coupled with what.
Speaker 5: My favorite I don't remember exactly, but my favorite line
Speaker 5: is when he says my shirt is soaking well.
Speaker 1: Joking well, when he's walking out.
Speaker 4: ELO love that, like it's like they've been gilboard but
Speaker 4: like I think they accepted our relationship, Like yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: that's right, Like they kind of were like, wait, how
Speaker 4: are we supposed to feel?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 5: Yes, that's the whole thing about that scene. You sort
Speaker 5: of feel like, Wow, that was gnarly and intense. But
Speaker 5: then you're sort of like, all right, they kind of
Speaker 5: all like each other, and they're totally like going to
Speaker 5: redo that they need umbrella policies and they're totally going
Speaker 5: to redo their insurance and they're like and then they
Speaker 5: do sort of address like, is April is this real?
Speaker 3: Like is it timing weird?
Speaker 1: Like is this a scam? But you fine? Did you
Speaker 1: did you? Did you feel that during that dinner that
Speaker 1: that the Gilmours were being so condescending to Luke that
Speaker 1: they just decided to bombard each other there for him
Speaker 1: and Lorelei with all of this rhetoric about insurance and
Speaker 1: telling stories about it. I mean, it just kind of
Speaker 1: felt like a sort of iphalutein beat down in a sense,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? You know how they're very
Speaker 1: wealthy and the very educated tend to do that when
Speaker 1: they're uncomfortable around the person and they know that that
Speaker 1: person isn't going to contribute to the conversation in any
Speaker 1: real way that they can relate to, and they don't
Speaker 1: want to make their guests feel comfortable and talk, and
Speaker 1: really they're not interested in him. They're interested in their
Speaker 1: own entertainment. So they kind of use Luke as this
Speaker 1: opportunity to just sort of mock him. And see, I
Speaker 1: didn't get that part.
Speaker 5: I think there's lots of problems with them, meaning like
Speaker 5: they're just not necessarily like polite, warm, guess interested in
Speaker 5: their guests. That being said, I don't think they were
Speaker 5: mocking him. I actually think.
Speaker 1: Well they were just they were barely tolerating him.
Speaker 5: I got the vibe like they both think that you
Speaker 5: and Lorlai have made something of yourselves, and now they're
Speaker 5: kind of like almost like it's gilmoreing you like you
Speaker 5: need you need. I didn't get a mocking as much
Speaker 5: as it's like you've been Gilmore, meaning like now you
Speaker 5: need to look at all your assets and your things
Speaker 5: the way we look at ours. I actually thought it
Speaker 5: was sort of they're leveling you up, but just in
Speaker 5: such a Gilmore way where they're just so like they're
Speaker 5: not warm.
Speaker 1: Okay, So but if they wanted to do that right
Speaker 1: in a respectful way, Richard would have had a private
Speaker 1: meeting with Luke in his office or in his study
Speaker 1: or at the golf course. Once again, man to man
Speaker 1: and talk about it in a respectful way, in a
Speaker 1: respectful period of time, gradually and not like put on
Speaker 1: this full on beat down display. Right, but they're still
Speaker 1: going to be.
Speaker 5: In front of But they they're including her in it
Speaker 5: because they are also saying she has created assets and wealth.
Speaker 3: The house has gone up fifty two percent.
Speaker 1: She owns this in I think sharing my point, my point.
Speaker 5: I don't think, not in the sense that he should
Speaker 5: separate you and take you aside on the golf course.
Speaker 1: He's that's like rap families talk.
Speaker 5: About saying, hey, now they're they're they're talking guy, they're.
Speaker 1: Acting like Theyan young I think they get ganged up
Speaker 1: on him.
Speaker 5: They ganged up on them. To me, they were putting
Speaker 5: you and Lorlight in it together. They're not singling out Luke.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 5: What they're doing is talking down to you. You're right
Speaker 5: about that, and that you both are like forty years old.
Speaker 1: They don't.
Speaker 5: You don't really need mommy and daddy to tell you
Speaker 5: what to do with your insurance and your money. So
Speaker 5: I agree with that part, but I don't I don't
Speaker 5: think they're condescending to Luke per Se.
Speaker 3: I think they're acknowledging these young couple, our kids have made.
Speaker 1: A lot of money.
Speaker 5: We got to help them protect their assets and that
Speaker 5: that you're a part of their assets, so that if
Speaker 5: you guys mess up and someone falls at the diner,
Speaker 5: they can not only sue you, but sue Lorelai and
Speaker 5: the Gilmours is kind of where I was at with it.
Speaker 1: I don't know that that's appropriate dinner conversation. Well, that's
Speaker 1: that's correct.
Speaker 5: That's the part that I'm saying is they're so they're
Speaker 5: not like, why are they not just asking you normal
Speaker 5: things that.
Speaker 4: You're not like the traditional family.
Speaker 5: But I do think it's their way of showing, like
Speaker 5: they said when they came out, I think they accept us.
Speaker 5: That was their weird way of saying they're not fighting it.
Speaker 1: They're saying accepting us. I want a part of that. Well,
Speaker 1: you act them well exactly, of course.
Speaker 4: But but I think that's also the definition of you've
Speaker 4: been gilmoured. It's like they're gonna drag you do, but
Speaker 4: then they're gonna somehow validate you at the same time,
Speaker 4: and you're gonna be used as you walk out.
Speaker 3: See, I don't. I don't hate them at all.
Speaker 5: Like there's things they do and things Emily does that
Speaker 5: are so bad and kind of gross.
Speaker 1: I don't hate them.
Speaker 4: You know what it reminds me of, you know what,
Speaker 4: Like you have relatives who they're a lot older, and
Speaker 4: they are things from maybe thirty forty fifty years ago
Speaker 4: that were like okay to say at the time, and
Speaker 4: then like suddenly, not suddenly, but over time it's not
Speaker 4: appropriate to say that anymore. Like this is a horrible example,
Speaker 4: but like someone's weight. You wouldn't comment on someone's weight, right,
Speaker 4: But like I think like back then, like if your
Speaker 4: elders said something like it just they dealt with it,
Speaker 4: and now you kind of are like you don't body shit.
Speaker 5: You wouldn't comment on someone's weight as they're your dinner guest,
Speaker 5: but like your mom might. I think there's something about
Speaker 5: the Gilmours that they're just treating you. They're having no
Speaker 5: filter filter, they're not being polite, They're just like saying
Speaker 5: what they're gonna say because you're in the family.
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, that's how they're treating Luke at this point.
Speaker 5: Like it's like.
Speaker 4: It's bad but good and I think like, because.
Speaker 1: What's the good part. Explain that to me.
Speaker 5: They're accepting you. They're not fighting. They're not saying, don't
Speaker 5: marry this guy.
Speaker 1: They're saying he doesn't want to be a member of
Speaker 1: that club that treats him that way.
Speaker 3: He doesn't get to decide like he's marrying into.
Speaker 1: No, he doesn't guy, he doesn't get to decide, No,
Speaker 1: he's married into that. What influence do they have in
Speaker 1: his marriage at this point with Lorelei, you marry you
Speaker 1: marry her, you marry them.
Speaker 5: You're in their family now, so you don't get to decide,
Speaker 5: just like you had to go to the dinner, you
Speaker 5: don't want to go to that dinner.
Speaker 1: Those are her parents. You see these two being married
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, you know, everybody's going
Speaker 1: on vacation with each other.
Speaker 5: But like vacation, you're saying, you have to have a
Speaker 5: relationship with them. They are her parents, and she has
Speaker 5: a relationship with them.
Speaker 1: So by marrying her, not much a one you with
Speaker 1: your parents I do.
Speaker 4: She sees them every week, Yeah, and they're involved in
Speaker 4: her daughter's life and her not.
Speaker 5: Saying Luke has to go every week, but he will
Speaker 5: definitely have a relationship with She's not.
Speaker 1: Seeing them every week of her own volition. She's being forced.
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter it was tied to money. She's married.
Speaker 1: That's what the show's about. That's Luke is marrying Laura
Speaker 1: I go to Hartford to be with her horrible parents, but.
Speaker 3: She doesn't like them.
Speaker 4: There was seas when she didn't go to Friday night
Speaker 4: dinner and she she missed it, like she called Roy,
Speaker 4: like what happened? Like deep down, I think she wants
Speaker 4: to be there.
Speaker 5: Of course, she just told that whole story where she
Speaker 5: said when they lived at the Inn and they got
Speaker 5: the invite for Christmas dinner and they didn't go.
Speaker 1: She regrets it and wishes they went.
Speaker 5: She will always have a relationship with them because they
Speaker 5: are her parents.
Speaker 6: I see Amy's point. I think the dinner was really
Speaker 6: about lorel I and Luke because it started out. The
Speaker 6: whole conversation about the insurance started because Lorela I said,
Speaker 6: we expanded the house, and Richard's like, were you updated
Speaker 6: your coverage? Didn't you? Like That's what set the whole
Speaker 6: thing off was loral I is expanding the house and
Speaker 6: then moving forward from there. I think I think, yeah,
Speaker 6: Luke is.
Speaker 1: There was.
Speaker 6: It reminds me of the scene where Luke and Jess
Speaker 6: were in the canoe and Luke was telling Jess, He's like.
Speaker 1: You get it.
Speaker 6: You get with this girl, you get with her whole family,
Speaker 6: and it's like it's just kind of a package deal.
Speaker 6: And yeah, Laura is not really there of her own volition,
Speaker 6: but I think we've seen kind of over the seasons
Speaker 6: she's starting to forge a relationship with them and starting
Speaker 6: to I don't I don't want to say she likes
Speaker 6: them more because I don't think she does.
Speaker 5: But.
Speaker 6: I think that she's she has to take Luke along
Speaker 6: on that ride.
Speaker 1: So you know, you know what, I just realized. The
Speaker 1: Gilmore Girls, the love of Gilmore Girls for twenty three years,
Speaker 1: is not based on anything coming from the Death Star
Speaker 1: in Hartford. It's everything about how Laurela I raised her
Speaker 1: daughter and the town of stars Hollow and her Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the family values, that's the family friendly aspect of
Speaker 1: the show. The villains are a two headed bas called
Speaker 1: Richard and Emily. Those are the villains.
Speaker 3: They're the I don't know that they're.
Speaker 1: All of that is that that is not the kind
Speaker 1: of family values that anybody is aspiring to or relating to.
Speaker 1: It just illuminates disagree special and what a what a
Speaker 1: good decision, Laurel I made I disagree and go go
Speaker 1: ahead and go to Stars Hall. A lot of people
Speaker 1: relate thing and enhances everything that Stars Hollow has to.
Speaker 1: It's It's like Hartford Upper Crust versus Stars Hollow.
Speaker 7: A lot of people read dynamic because you said that
Speaker 7: people don't relate to a lot of people relate to
Speaker 7: relationships with their parents or whoever, but especially with their
Speaker 7: parents like that totally relatable.
Speaker 3: Lrelize relationship with her.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that it isn't relatable, and I'm not
Speaker 1: saying it's not a very necessary part. And I think
Speaker 1: that that's the genius of it. Platinos set up, you know,
Speaker 1: Death Star versus I don't agree. I kind of say
Speaker 1: that one respectfully.
Speaker 5: I don't because what I think they set up is
Speaker 5: how complicated everybody is. The Gilmores are complicated, Luke is
Speaker 5: actually complicated. Lorelei is probably the most complicated of all
Speaker 5: of it.
Speaker 3: What I think they set up is.
Speaker 5: This core with Rory and Loreli and the tentacles that
Speaker 5: go out from that and all their relationships, the relationship
Speaker 5: with Dean Jess Logan, even when Rory and Loreli have
Speaker 5: their falling out.
Speaker 1: All right, remove the Gilmours from the Richard and Emiley
Speaker 1: from the equation and the show what do you have?
Speaker 1: Not as good as a shell? Does it exist? Do
Speaker 1: you just have to go on? Sure?
Speaker 5: It's just a campy sitcom. It's just not as good,
Speaker 5: it's not as deep. It's not as rich, and I
Speaker 5: don't mean rich like the Gilmours are rich. It's not
Speaker 5: as like textured and rich. The reason we like it
Speaker 5: is because these characters are not one note. It's why
Speaker 5: we get irritated by Paris because she's sort of one note.
Speaker 1: I think the reason that Gilmour Girls is so iconic
Speaker 1: is because we have the contrast of Richard and Emily
Speaker 1: and everybody.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I agree with no.
Speaker 1: I think you give that example, that's extreme example of
Speaker 1: wealth and entitlement against where she ends up and that
Speaker 1: town and you've got magic. You agree with that?
Speaker 5: Yeah, But I even think, like Michelle right in this episode,
Speaker 5: we're all kind of irritated by Michelle's antics until we
Speaker 5: realize why, because again, he's not one note. He's not
Speaker 5: just the crotchety guy that works with them. He's has
Speaker 5: heart and he loves them, So I see that. I
Speaker 5: think it's why Paris I'm not vibing with her as
Speaker 5: much right now because we're not getting any redemption with her,
Speaker 5: whereas with Richard and Emily we do get it from
Speaker 5: time to time and kind of a lot.
Speaker 1: Paris is obviously going through some kind of verse breakdown.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's just a mental breakdown we're watching, and
Speaker 1: the character well.
Speaker 3: And another thing we won't agree on.
Speaker 5: After the dinner, when Christopher calls Laura right after he's
Speaker 5: promised Rory he's not gonna tell her because she's going
Speaker 5: to he tells.
Speaker 3: What do y'all think?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think like if he was very involved in
Speaker 4: Rory's life, I would kind of give him a pass,
Speaker 4: but like he's not. Just because he's paying for Yale
Speaker 4: doesn't mean like he's suddenly buddy buddies and like with
Speaker 4: Laura I and like they didn't talk for a long time.
Speaker 4: So it's like, here's the thing we all know that
Speaker 4: Rory was going to tell Laura I herself, like she's
Speaker 4: not She's not a kid who's gonna hide that from
Speaker 4: her mom. It literally happened today, so they haven't even that.
Speaker 4: That's my point, So like, let her let hers tell
Speaker 4: her mom herself. I don't think that was fair.
Speaker 1: But isn't it sad that Rory wasn't even upset and
Speaker 1: not terribly surprised that her dad had shared her secret.
Speaker 5: Well, my take on that was go ahead, Scott, sorry
Speaker 5: that he's pathetic.
Speaker 1: No, see, my take on that was not that.
Speaker 5: My take was she's not upset because it was sort
Speaker 5: of a dad thing to do, Like, so's you kind
Speaker 5: of are like dad already told you.
Speaker 3: Oh god, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: Like, that's why I think she wasn't upset and she
Speaker 5: knew she was gonna My thing with Christopher is like
Speaker 5: give her a hot minute to tell her mom.
Speaker 1: I'm not mad at him.
Speaker 5: Like two days later he could call and be like, hey,
Speaker 5: do you know where Rory's living?
Speaker 4: But it was like and he walked outside her still like.
Speaker 1: That guy really knows how to build trust with his kid. Dunny. Well,
Speaker 1: and there's another opportunity by the wayside.
Speaker 6: She's twenty one years old at this point, and now
Speaker 6: he suddenly decides he's going to try to parent her right, right,
Speaker 6: and which I thought was not. I mean, she's an adult,
Speaker 6: she doesn't need to be parented. She can make her
Speaker 6: own decisions. And you're right, like this was brand new information.
Speaker 6: She deserved the chance to tell Lorlai herself. And I
Speaker 6: think that Rory wasn't that surprised that he told her
Speaker 6: because he always does the opposite of what you want
Speaker 6: him to do, so right, I think that's why she
Speaker 6: wasn't that surprised, because she's that's just.
Speaker 1: How he is, right, That's the part about it. That's
Speaker 1: that's why I say pathetic, is because they expect him
Speaker 1: to do that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I wasn't that surprised in Loralai's reaction only
Speaker 4: because when me too, when Rory said, oh, I'm like
Speaker 4: going out on a date with Logan again or talking
Speaker 4: to him or whatever it was. I think it was
Speaker 4: the last episode. Lorlai was like, oh, okay, so you
Speaker 4: guys are talking like she didn't take it like, oh
Speaker 4: why are you talking? You know, I think that she
Speaker 4: knows like when someone breaks up and then gets back together,
Speaker 4: I think your bond gets stronger or not all the time,
Speaker 4: but a lot of times, right, And so I think
Speaker 4: she's kind of like, oh, well, my daughter's moving in
Speaker 4: with her boyfriend. I guess it's the next step in
Speaker 4: their relationship.
Speaker 3: And some of it is circumstance, I think too.
Speaker 5: When she says Paris kicked me out, she's.
Speaker 1: Like, what is she supposed to do? There is something
Speaker 1: like she's.
Speaker 4: Not moving back to the stars Hollow to go to.
Speaker 1: And also she stays there half the time anyway, Right,
Speaker 1: she kicked her out of her apartment, put her stuff
Speaker 1: out there in a bad neighborhood where her safety is
Speaker 1: an issue. Right, It's like that is like you eliminate
Speaker 1: that person from your life.
Speaker 3: That is just like, well, I agree with you, Scott,
Speaker 3: like Paris is not her friend?
Speaker 1: What no? No? Yeah. I mean everybody's reacting pretty much
Speaker 1: how you would think they kind of would.
Speaker 4: I mean, like Laurla is probably not like jumping up
Speaker 4: and down about it, but she's like, my daughter's twenty
Speaker 4: one years old, she's getting like it.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: And she even said to Rory, she's like, well, you know,
Speaker 6: you remember what happened the last time I gave you
Speaker 6: my opinion, right, you know that was She's like, do
Speaker 6: you want to get the pool house ready? Like I
Speaker 6: think that was like to really say something because like
Speaker 6: they're finally back at a good place, so she's kind
Speaker 6: of suppressing how she maybe really feels.
Speaker 3: She's also torn on logan.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so it's like she's not gonna win, because what's
Speaker 5: she gonna say, like I don't even like this guy,
Speaker 5: Like I don't know. She's not gonna win, so she
Speaker 5: might as well just be like cool, she's in a safe,
Speaker 5: fancy apartment. Yeah, it's all good, that's true. And then
Speaker 5: there we are. You know, it's a good episode.
Speaker 1: It is.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I enjoyed it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, a lot of laughs, a lot of Yeah, I.
Speaker 3: Agree with You's got a lot of laughs.
Speaker 1: Building a good script, good script, real good acting too.
Speaker 5: Nobody was like being a weirdo or jarring or annoying
Speaker 5: other than Paris.
Speaker 3: But she's supposed to be.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what do y'all give it?
Speaker 6: I'll give it a nine? And my measuring stick is
Speaker 6: cans of soup.
Speaker 1: Bear on the yesterday's did she open it yesterday or today?
Speaker 1: Which one?
Speaker 4: Tara, I'm going to give it nine moving boxes, Rory's
Speaker 4: moving boxes.
Speaker 3: I'm going to give it nine chains of the door.
Speaker 3: Paris too, But.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is a nine, Scott, what do you give it? Oh? Boy, uh,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't really see anything wrong with
Speaker 1: the episode. I think it was pretty flawless, was there. Sorry,
Speaker 1: I'm going to give it a ten. Oh wow, wow, wow, hangout,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna ever send that. Let's do nine. Let's do
Speaker 1: nine point seventy five, and I'll deducted quarter point for
Speaker 1: the lack of conflict in the episode, although you know,
Speaker 1: I think the dinner table stuff provided the conflict. So
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm gonna fire the Russian judge. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna kick it back up to a ten. I like
Speaker 1: it now. I think ten? Mm? Ten?
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 1: Ten?
Speaker 4: What weren't many objects in this episode?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Right? Ten? Ten bags of tater tops? Oh my god,
Speaker 1: because that's about what it looked like anyway. All right, kids,
Speaker 1: So that's going to wrap up this episode. Next episode
Speaker 1: was that episode fifteen fifteen, season six, A Vineyard Valentine.
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