1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: Calling all my sweeties to the forefront. I'm your host, 2 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 1: christ and this is to Keep It Positive Sweetie Show. 3 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to another episode of the Keep It Positive Sweetish Show. 4 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 1: I'm your host, Christohinee Hazelt, and today we are joined 5 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: by multi. 6 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 2: Hyphen it talent. 7 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 1: He is an actor, singer, songwriter known for his virtual 8 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:25,279 Speaker 1: talents in both entertainment and music. Kids family, please welcome 9 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: Jacob Latimore. Jacob, thank you so much for coming. 10 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 3: Thank you for having Finally, How are you feeling. I 11 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 3: love you, c B two seats. 12 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 1: Going to get you. You know, we like a little affordable, 13 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 1: good price points right, comfortable, Yes, absolutely, thank you. How 14 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 1: are you feeling? 15 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 3: I feel good. I feel good. Just back home from 16 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:48,879 Speaker 3: filming The Shop for like eight months last year. So 17 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 3: just enjoying home, you know, yeah, not leaving. 18 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 2: Tell me about it. 19 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 1: It's always fascinating because I'm in the Tyler Perry ecosystem 20 00:00:57,160 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 1: and we shoot twenty two episodes in two weeks. 21 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 2: Insane. And to hear you shooting for eight. 22 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 1: Months that I feel like I would get bored, though. 23 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:10,960 Speaker 3: I be like, it's definitely it's definitely a process. Like 24 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 3: we uh, I'm if I'm not on set. I'm just 25 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:16,680 Speaker 3: at home studying those lines. Yes, and then you know, 26 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 3: in the gym or I don't know, doing something productive 27 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 3: in between, but always staying on call cause you just 28 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 3: never know. 29 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 1: Even on your off days, you never know. If you 30 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:26,399 Speaker 1: bump something up, you gotta be. 31 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 3: Ready this person then catch a flight or this person. Shit, 32 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 3: you need to come in so we are ensemble. Yeah, 33 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 3: so it's just like you gotta be ready. 34 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 1: I love that show. It's so good. Shout out Lena 35 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:40,400 Speaker 1: and Luke James one of my really good friends. And 36 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:42,320 Speaker 1: I just did a movie two years ago with Burgundy. 37 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:44,919 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Her birthday is today? 38 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 1: Is it Happy birthday? B I know this would be 39 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: after your birthday, but happy birthday Booth. Yeah, I love her. 40 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: But yes, I love that show. But Jacob, you have 41 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 1: been doing this since you were eight years old and 42 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 1: you're twenty eight now, so most of your life. Yep, 43 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: so you you got a lot of skin in the game. 44 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: So I've only been doing this for like five or 45 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: six years, So I need to kick your brain. 46 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 3: No, you doing that. You're doing your thing. 47 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 1: I'm trying, but I'm really proud of you. But how 48 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 1: starting at a very young age. What has that journey 49 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: been like to get to where you are now? 50 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 3: It's definitely been a lot different. Like when I was 51 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:21,360 Speaker 3: eight years old, acting was something I wasn't even thinking 52 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 3: about really, you know. Acting was like I believe I 53 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:27,639 Speaker 3: got a script handed to me. If like they were 54 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 3: auditioning for like the local like Lion King play, and 55 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 3: they hit me a script like yeah, they auditioned for 56 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 3: simple little Jake, Like little Jake, Little Jake, when you 57 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 3: should do this a little Jay, You'll be cold, little 58 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 3: Ja as I've been walking you, Like, look you be cold, 59 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 3: Little Ja. And I was like, nah, no, i'ma I'm 60 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 3: on the porch, like really making decisions on that. I'm 61 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 3: gonna do this music thing first, like eight years old, 62 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 3: like and I'm like, I'm gonna do this music thing first, 63 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 3: and then and then I get into acting, you know, 64 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 3: with the door open whatever. So but then I moved 65 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 3: a couple of years later and moved to Atlanta, still 66 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 3: doing the music thing. And then I started finding other 67 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 3: peers that were weren't overthinking it. They were doing music, 68 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 3: they were doing film, they were hosting, they were you know, 69 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 3: acting whatever, and it just I just opened my my 70 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 3: mind up a little bit more and just got more 71 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 3: comfortable and was like, you know what, I'm gonna do it, 72 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 3: you know. And I found some acting classes and found 73 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:20,239 Speaker 3: out my first agency out here, shout out to Joy Purpose, 74 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 3: and you know, she really believed in me and helped 75 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 3: me get some really important projects that were pivotal and 76 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 3: me learning on how to be on set and how 77 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 3: to read scenes, and she would read those scenes with 78 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 3: me too, like it was just dope. So that was real, 79 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 3: real hands on agent and you don't get that a lot, 80 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 3: you know. And she had like her own self tape 81 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 3: room and I was doing that. So moving to Atlanta 82 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 3: was really just an eye open experience and I just 83 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 3: that's just like a testament. You gotta be in an 84 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 3: environment where you can thrive. Yeah, you know what I mean, 85 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 3: So you can You gotta be around other people that 86 00:03:56,040 --> 00:04:00,080 Speaker 3: are doing things that inspire you and and make can 87 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 3: you check yourself like, oh I'm overthinking I could do 88 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 3: I ain't got a quit. 89 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 1: Absolutely, don't botch yourself, you know what I mean, I 90 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: could do that in it. 91 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 3: So that's so Atlanta it was. It's always just been 92 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 3: home for me ever since then we moved out here twenty, 93 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 3: two thousand and eight. Okay, so I came year two thousand, 94 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 3: two thousand eight, two thousand nine, soth like that. 95 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, I came in two thousand and nine. I 96 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 1: was in DC working on Capitol Hill. Wow, and I 97 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:25,480 Speaker 1: was like, I saw all my. 98 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 2: Friends out here thriving. 99 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 1: I'm like, if they can do it, I can do it. 100 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:30,359 Speaker 1: And like you, like, I wanted to do music like 101 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 1: that was my thing and if acting, if if music 102 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 1: opened the door for other things, I was open to it. Yeah, 103 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:37,159 Speaker 1: and then it kind of ended up being the reverse 104 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:39,479 Speaker 1: where acting end up opening the door for music. 105 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:42,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's all it's all tied in now. So now, 106 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 3: I mean a lot of musicians like bro, I wanna 107 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 3: I wanna be up, yes, you know, And I'm like, man, 108 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 3: you know you gotta you just gotta get in there, 109 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:51,599 Speaker 3: get into acting classes, like I really, I really paid 110 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:53,720 Speaker 3: my dues too with the acting, Like I really got 111 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 3: in class. I really did improv training, yes, like I 112 00:04:57,279 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 3: really like you know. But then also the on seting 113 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 3: experience was just alone with nothing like class. You know, 114 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 3: you're like tongue twisters. 115 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, rather leathery leather, leather, yellow leather like you get 116 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 4: in there and sometimes sometimes shitty, like you could do 117 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:13,839 Speaker 4: all those things and learn these monologues, but nothing like 118 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 4: that on set experience where they changing the lines right right, 119 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:19,039 Speaker 4: you know, we want to. 120 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:21,359 Speaker 3: Change this line right here and do this line. You 121 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:23,480 Speaker 3: got Will Smith looking at you like you can do it, 122 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 3: and I'm like, You're like, yeah, like no, why are 123 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 3: you changing my line all night? But it's it's just 124 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 3: it's it's cool, and it's a part of the process, 125 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 3: and it keeps us uncomfortable, you know, which is which 126 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 3: is good for growth? 127 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:41,719 Speaker 1: Right absolutely. I wanted to ask you about working with Will. 128 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 1: Will Smith is like everybody's icon, you know, in our 129 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 1: north start, especially in music and acting. We just that's 130 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 1: the place that we aim to go. What was it 131 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 1: like working with him? 132 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 3: I was, you know, I ain't gonna lie. I was 133 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 3: actually I was fanned out. 134 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 1: I can imagine. 135 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:58,839 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I actually took a picture with him 136 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 3: and then posted it online and I got an email 137 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 3: from production saying, hey, you need to take that down. 138 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 3: He's in costume. 139 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 2: Almost lost a job like that, Jamie Fox. 140 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 3: I learned a lot working with him and just watching 141 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 3: him and uh, also just seeing how what it takes 142 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 3: to be that level of a of a brand and 143 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:24,479 Speaker 3: a celebrity, like you know, he's just it was he 144 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:28,039 Speaker 3: was like we outside filming in New York and he's 145 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 3: got to memorize his lines. But he got like screaming 146 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 3: fans on the corner, and you know, no telling what 147 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 3: he's dealing with in his personal life and all these things. 148 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:38,919 Speaker 3: So he's just you're just seeing it up close and 149 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 3: you're like, WHOA, how famous do I want to be? 150 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 3: You know? And and you're like, man, this is this 151 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 3: is different level. Like he has to They got to 152 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 3: roll him into the car like I was. 153 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 5: I walked to see anybody about like Ja Jaden Smith, 154 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 5: Jacob Yes, I'm like with. 155 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 3: It whatever, and you know what I'm saying. So, but 156 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:06,919 Speaker 3: it was like they they had to roll him into 157 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 3: set in the in the suv and real like let 158 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 3: him out right world the cameras. Yeah, you know, so 159 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 3: he just he had to move different in it. But 160 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 3: he was all smiles and he has good energy about it. 161 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 3: So I definitely learned how to bring good energy to work. 162 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: Love that that's important. 163 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 3: He shakes everybody's hand and I was like, that's what 164 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 3: I'm gonna do you know when I when I'm gonna 165 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 3: set it a shot, I always remind myself like I 166 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 3: prayed to be here, you know, even though I'm tired today, 167 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 3: I may not feel like it today, Like I'm gonna 168 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 3: come to set and then come in and make up trailer, 169 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 3: come into the to the to the hair trailer with 170 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 3: energy and and and we it's a it's this is 171 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 3: a good thing. 172 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 1: It is we hear. 173 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 3: This is a luxury, you know. 174 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 1: And we're getting the best part of it as the actors, 175 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 1: you know, and you have to be I worked on 176 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: the other side as well. I was costume designer with Herman. 177 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 1: Herman was my supervisor and understanding how tired they are 178 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 1: as well, Like we're all exhausted, you know, because they're 179 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 1: taking care of us and we're trying to deliver the 180 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 1: lines and make the director happy. 181 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 2: But it's everybody's pulling. 182 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 3: Everybody's pulling. 183 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 1: I love that you do that, and I love that 184 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 1: Will was that. 185 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 3: Example for you, absolutely. 186 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 1: Because sometimes our icons aren't the nicest, you know, and 187 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 1: you're like dang. 188 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 3: Yep, You're like dang, I should have just mm hm, 189 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 3: kept it, kept it, just kept its exact with that 190 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 3: human you start to you start to give grace too, 191 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 3: because you realize everybody, everybody doesn't want to be that 192 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 3: light you know what I mean, That that that thing, 193 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. So it's like, hey, I 194 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 3: don't want anybody to glorify me and be this, you 195 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 3: know that they want to just come to set, be 196 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 3: treated normal. And I give grace to a lot of 197 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 3: actors and actresses I meet because you just never know, well, 198 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 3: you know people are going through because we just were 199 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 3: reading these scripts and we this is our lives and 200 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 3: we gotta keep this facade. And we have fans who 201 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 3: fall in love like with the shows that we're on 202 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 3: because they're in We're in their households every day. 203 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 1: Everybody feel like they made. 204 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 3: Homies, Like you know you fans walk up to you 205 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 3: like what's up, Hey yo, I'll be watching your show. 206 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:08,679 Speaker 2: You got the what happened for real? 207 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 1: Right? 208 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 3: So they really feel like we family to them, and 209 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 3: you you never want to disappoint anybody in their experience, 210 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 3: so it's like you're like, dang, like that's what I 211 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 3: ask for. It is you can get a picture even 212 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 3: though like I'm busted right now, I'm sleepy coming off 213 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 3: the plane like whatever, like keep ball in the eye. 214 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 1: Yes, it's so funny because there I was just talking 215 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 1: about this actually with DaVinci about how we can we're 216 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 1: human the first and foremost, but we can be having 217 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 1: the worst day, but we always have to be on, 218 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 1: you know, no matter what, because you want that moment 219 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 1: with that fan to be the best moment. Because I 220 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 1: know what it's like to meet somebody that I just 221 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 1: adore and like, oh my gosh, I just love everything 222 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 1: you do, and they were like completely mean. It's like, yeah, 223 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 1: oh my goodness. 224 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 3: You give a lot of yourself you do. It's tough. 225 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:01,719 Speaker 3: It's a tough balance. And I'm at the point now 226 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 3: if I know I'm not in the greatest mood, I 227 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 3: just stay home. 228 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 1: That's smart. 229 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:11,680 Speaker 3: Just stay hard ordering you know, like literally like just 230 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:14,680 Speaker 3: stay home, you know, like it's me time all go 231 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 3: to the gym and go back, go back home, walk 232 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 3: the dog, like literally stay in the neighborhood. So that's 233 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 3: that's the best thing for me to do when I 234 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 3: know I'm like today, ain't it not really answering the 235 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 3: phone like that, you know what I mean. So it 236 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 3: just I try to refuel myself before I even step off. 237 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 1: So speaking of refeeling and balancing, how do you balance 238 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 1: between all your the mini hats that you wear. 239 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 3: I don't know. 240 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 2: That was like I'm still trying. 241 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 3: To figure that. Like like this morning, I had two 242 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 3: auditions before I came here. After this, I'm going to 243 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 3: the studio tonight to finishing touches on my album. So 244 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 3: it's like when you when you just love what you do, 245 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 3: you kind of just you just make time for it, 246 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 3: and you you realize, like, hey, I'm I'm the only one. 247 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:08,680 Speaker 3: I'm the only one that has these opportunities, and this 248 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 3: is what I pray for. And like what else? What else? 249 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 3: What else I got to do today? You know what 250 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:17,559 Speaker 3: I mean? Like I really ain't got nothing else to 251 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 3: do today. You know, I would just go home and 252 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 3: watch watch movies. So let me record this record tonight, 253 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 3: let me get it done. Then I could go on vacation, 254 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. So really, just uh, just dedication, really, 255 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 3: just like no matter how you're feeling, just do it. 256 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 3: Just do it, you know, creating that checklist, and sometimes 257 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 3: it can feel like you just dragging yourself all day 258 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 3: and then when you finally sit down and look at 259 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 3: the work, you put in, You're like, whoa, this is 260 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 3: years and years of work. 261 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 1: Consistency and very consistent. 262 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's the I feel like that's the name 263 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:55,839 Speaker 3: of the game. With anything that you want to be 264 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 3: successful in, you just gotta you gotta be consistent. 265 00:11:58,520 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 1: And I feel like that's where a lot of people 266 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 1: all short. That's that makes a difference between making it 267 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 1: and not making it, is that consistency. You don't have 268 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 1: to be the best doing what you do with the 269 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 1: ones that are consistent make it. 270 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:11,559 Speaker 3: Nah. Like when I'm in the gym for two weeks, 271 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:13,959 Speaker 3: three weeks straight, and I'm like, oh yea, I'm getting crazy, 272 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 3: and you get you start you see phil, you feel 273 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 3: like you got the results. So you go to Zaxby's 274 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 3: at Yeah, you got the room, and then you lose 275 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 3: all that two three weeks over a short week or weekend. Yeah, 276 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 3: partying and kicking it, and then you like, oh man, 277 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 3: I'm back, I'm back. Pop belly. 278 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:36,679 Speaker 1: They don't take off, you know what I mean? Two 279 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:38,599 Speaker 1: weeks to get it off and one chicken tender to 280 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 1: get it back, and. 281 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 3: You like yeah, and it's it's just it's what it's about. Yeah, 282 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 3: And I just try to surround myself around people who 283 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 3: are consistent and just at this point, like you know, friendships, 284 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 3: even colleagues or just anything, if they if people around 285 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 3: me aren't consistent in what they're doing or sticking by 286 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 3: their word, it's kind of like, man, it's like, we 287 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 3: gotta gotta cut you off. Listen. 288 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 2: No, I got through. 289 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 1: Because when they're not moving in the same duration that 290 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: you are, just like all the people that are around you. 291 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 1: And if you don't be very mindful unintentional about the 292 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 1: people you're around, you be like why am I acting 293 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 1: because I'm around you a lot? Because they start to 294 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 1: rep off on you, whether you whether you're in that 295 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 1: headstats or not. Yeah, it's like it's inevitable. 296 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 3: And you try, and I think too, like we we 297 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 3: got big hearts, so we try to try to help. 298 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 3: We try to give insight, and I think all of 299 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 3: that is cool. But I've I've learned to give some advice, 300 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:41,840 Speaker 3: help where I can watch them if it applied, if 301 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 3: they apply it at all, and I leave it at that. 302 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 3: I can't. I can't force you to I can't force 303 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 3: your journey on you, you know what I mean or not. 304 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:54,680 Speaker 3: I can only just lead by example, and just through 305 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 3: my actions, so I can give you what I can 306 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 3: on an advice tip, but that's about it, you know, 307 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:03,559 Speaker 3: Like if I'm on set and what I'm saying, hey, bruh, 308 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 3: like I think you should like in more right here, 309 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 3: here and here he accepted of it, and I'm like, 310 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 3: I did what I could because you know, I could 311 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 3: be standing next to you and I could get I 312 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 3: could bite the bullet to you, biiting, you know what 313 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 3: I mean, because I'm just trying to save you and 314 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 3: I can't because you're not recepting what I'm saying, you know. 315 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 3: And I think it took me a while to have 316 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 3: that voice because I have been in the game since 317 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 3: I was right, like my first film said I was 318 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 3: on when I was like eleven. Wow, this show called 319 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 3: win Tree Hill. Oh yeah, Like they did a few 320 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 3: seasons and Sophia Bush was the director of that episode. 321 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 3: And I actually seen her pre Gold and Globes parties, 322 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 3: and every time I see her, she's like, wow, like 323 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 3: I seen I seen that sparking your eye at like 324 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 3: eight nine, eleven years old, you know, So it took 325 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 3: me a while to kind of have that voice of 326 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 3: like even just being the youngest in the room. If 327 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 3: I'm in the room full of maybe up and coming 328 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 3: actors who are maybe just getting their start at twenty 329 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 3: one twenty two, right, but I'm I'm like seventeen, and 330 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 3: I don't want to be the you know, they shouldn't 331 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 3: do that, you know, like you probably shouldn't move like that, 332 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 3: you know. And it took me a while. I was 333 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 3: kind of hesitanting. I was always a little shy or scared, like, 334 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 3: oh man, they may not they might think I'm be 335 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 3: acting funny, right, I think I'm like, I don't know. 336 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 3: I just I was overthoughted. And now if I have 337 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 3: the opportunity to speak, and if I see somebody that 338 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 3: got like a lot of potential, and I'm like, bruh, 339 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 3: like you you dope, like you could be more like 340 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 3: you don't let up, you know, And if I could 341 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 3: tell them, I will. But if I feel like that 342 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 3: I was receptive of it, I'm just like, I'm out. 343 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 1: Right, and the right person would be like, oh, thank 344 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 1: you for seeing me, and I do want to lock 345 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 1: in and do better. You know, most people will take 346 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 1: it if they're in there for the right reasons and 347 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 1: they have the right mindset, they would be grateful that 348 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 1: you gave them that insight. 349 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I it's still room for me to grow. 350 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 3: Like my agent calls like yeah, dude, like hey, like 351 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 3: watch these shows like we make that stuff. Shout out 352 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 3: to Dan Dan Kim. We've been rocking soul. I like 353 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 3: fourteen so and just inspired by the two auditions I 354 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 3: had today and they're just totally different and challenged me 355 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 3: because I have been playing the shot for so long. 356 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 3: So sometimes it's good for me to just get other 357 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 3: auditions that even if I don't get the park, it's 358 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 3: just it's just a good exercise, you know what I mean, 359 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 3: for like for me to tap into different characters and stuff. 360 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 1: So I love that you spoke on being the only 361 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 1: one and you opened up about survivors remores on the 362 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 1: BT's for the fellas. I wanna dive more into that 363 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 1: because that's something I love talking to my peers about 364 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 1: because a lot of times we are the ones that 365 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 1: made it and we carry so much weight when it 366 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 1: comes to that. 367 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 2: Yep, how are you navigating that now? 368 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 3: Just saying no, you know, just like saying no where 369 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 3: where I need to say no, you know, and realizing 370 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 3: that I I have a track record of giving. I 371 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 3: have a history of giving, and you shouldn't feel guilty 372 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 3: because you It's not like you're not a given person. 373 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 3: It's not like I ain't got receipts, right. 374 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. 375 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:12,640 Speaker 3: So it's like I've helped you here, I helped you there. 376 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 3: You know you can't say I didn't help you there. 377 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 3: And I never I would never ask for payback, you know. 378 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 3: And every time I give, I'm you know something, I'm 379 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 3: gonna get you back. I'm like, listen, every time I give, 380 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:26,880 Speaker 3: I'm literally on to the next I'm not even thinking 381 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 3: about it. If you have, if you find it somewhere 382 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 3: in your heart and you got and you come up 383 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 3: on some means to whatever, cool, But I promise you 384 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 3: I'm not thinking about it. Please, Like, honestly, if you get, 385 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 3: if you make up, if you make some bread, invest 386 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 3: in yourself. Please, you ain't gotta make that car to me. 387 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. 388 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:49,399 Speaker 3: You know what I mean. Like you are not in 389 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:52,359 Speaker 3: debt over here. You know you can get, you know 390 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 3: what I mean. So it's just that that's it took 391 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 3: me a while. Took me a while to like let 392 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:02,159 Speaker 3: go of that that Survivors Morrison, that that guilt, just 393 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:05,159 Speaker 3: like feeling like I have to help everybody, you know, 394 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:10,919 Speaker 3: and you know I'm behind on I'm like, man, man, 395 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 3: I'm by. 396 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 1: If I keep helping you, I'm gonna behind. 397 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 3: You know. And I don't think people realize the more 398 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 3: the more money you make, the bigger your expenses. 399 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:23,359 Speaker 1: The bigger expenses Uncle Sam takes. We're not getting a 400 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 1: refund check, you know, and we're paying him even more. 401 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 3: And it's like, I have I have goals, I have 402 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 3: real estate goals. I have money I'm investing into. So 403 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 3: you know, on the outside looking in, they can like, oh, 404 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:37,880 Speaker 3: he just he was born. He was boring rich because. 405 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 2: He been he been doing this forever. 406 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 3: You're doing this since he was ad Like, if I'm 407 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 3: being honest, like the real real income like really didn't 408 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 3: come to my twenties, you know what I mean. Like 409 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 3: my like as a teenager, I was like it may 410 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:55,399 Speaker 3: have looked like it may have looked like, but trust me, 411 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 3: like it was we were still figuring it out. And 412 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:01,959 Speaker 3: you know, as as you know it's black people, we 413 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 3: just we make it look good. You know how to 414 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:07,639 Speaker 3: how to make it look good, you know. So and 415 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:09,399 Speaker 3: I'm at the space now I just don't want to 416 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 3: look good. I want to be good. 417 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 2: I love that. 418 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 3: And when it's when you want to be good, you 419 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 3: gotta say no, you know, I cannot. I cannot help 420 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 3: you this in this season. 421 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 1: In my life, sometimes you have to say no to 422 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:23,639 Speaker 1: others to say yes to yourself and yes to your 423 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 1: future because unlike a lot of people, our jobs are 424 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 1: not promised. 425 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 2: It could be canceled tomorrow. 426 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 1: Got rid, you know, but like we have to do 427 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 1: everything we can now to make sure it was set. 428 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:34,120 Speaker 2: Up for the future. 429 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:37,119 Speaker 1: Most people have some type of job security, you know. 430 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:39,119 Speaker 1: We don't have that, so we have to say for 431 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 1: the rainy day. 432 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. And when they say what's next, like what's next? Like, 433 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:43,439 Speaker 3: I don't know what. 434 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:45,879 Speaker 1: That's what I have to do. It's the pressure of 435 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 1: dealing with I don't know. 436 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:49,360 Speaker 3: Like, thank god, I'm on a show that I can 437 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 3: kind of like, I know, we started season eight, you know, 438 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 3: but I can't just bank on a bank on that 439 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:58,680 Speaker 3: they say they make. They could cancel the show, God 440 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:03,439 Speaker 3: forbid nothing that is. But it's like you just never know, 441 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 3: you know, like we had a big film strike, you know, like. 442 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:11,400 Speaker 1: Did they not open your eyes like wow. I was like, oh, like, oh, 443 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:11,879 Speaker 1: I got it. 444 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:14,679 Speaker 3: Thankful for investing in it. That I knew how to 445 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:16,919 Speaker 3: invest in real estate. I knew how to save some 446 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 3: bread here and just stay at home and stop going 447 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 3: to the club. Sections is crazy, Bottles is crazy. Yeah, 448 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 3: I can get the bottles of the out create the 449 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 3: like my own. 450 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:33,919 Speaker 2: I can stand on my own account. 451 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:37,399 Speaker 3: You know, you know what I'm saying. So it's like 452 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 3: my whole mental is shifted, yeah, in that in that space, 453 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:44,679 Speaker 3: and it's it's literally shown in every aspect of my 454 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:49,360 Speaker 3: life spiritually, financially, physically, mentally. I'm like this. 455 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:56,920 Speaker 2: You also spoke about something that we having common. 456 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:59,160 Speaker 1: I don't know if your your relationship status right now, 457 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:01,679 Speaker 1: but you talked about loans and sometimes loneliness is not 458 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:05,199 Speaker 1: a bad thing. I know for me gaining success, it 459 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:07,239 Speaker 1: was hard for me to find the right relationship that 460 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 1: understood what all comes with this life. And even now, 461 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:13,160 Speaker 1: it's like you dates when they're like, oh my goodness, 462 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 1: you come with a lot and it's a lot of 463 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 1: amazing things, but they may not be used to the 464 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:21,680 Speaker 1: level of the amazing things, like this is a lot, 465 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:23,639 Speaker 1: and then you're busy all the time you're on the 466 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 1: go and you have to stay focused. What was the 467 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,439 Speaker 1: moment where you realize, wait, being lonely is not a 468 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:31,879 Speaker 1: bad thing, or it's not lonely, just being in solitude 469 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 1: and by yourself. 470 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:35,199 Speaker 3: I just come from a big family, Like I grew up. 471 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:36,919 Speaker 3: I grew up in a house where my dad and 472 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 3: my grandfather was in one house. Really, you know what 473 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:42,959 Speaker 3: I mean, like all my uncles, all my cousins. So 474 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 3: I come from that type of household. When I was 475 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 3: to leave school, like the whole family was in the 476 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,879 Speaker 3: house with eating dinner, We had big breakfasts, we have 477 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. And as I get older 478 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 3: and people are going through their own things and whatever, 479 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:00,119 Speaker 3: so I was just like, oh man, I can't and 480 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 3: bring everybody into my world because it's just it just 481 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 3: don't work. It don't work like that, you know, it can't. 482 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 3: It don't fit. And you know when it don't fit, 483 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 3: you know, because like doing doing business with a bunch 484 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:16,199 Speaker 3: of family can work when it works, you know, like 485 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:20,439 Speaker 3: the weighings, it works. It works, Yes, it works, brothers, 486 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 3: it works. Yes, yes, Smith's family works. Works. Don't work 487 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:32,120 Speaker 3: over here, it don't work, you know, and my mother's 488 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:34,920 Speaker 3: is you know, she got my back the most. 489 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:36,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, she manages right. 490 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:40,639 Speaker 3: Yep, real hands on like she's pretty much everything like 491 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 3: you know, assisted making your schedules laid out, you know, 492 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 3: secretary all everything, you know, all that works that works 493 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 3: when you know when it works, it's just you gotta 494 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:56,879 Speaker 3: you gotta keep it at that. And yeah, so that 495 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,640 Speaker 3: was it was some hard decisions to make on on 496 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 3: that of just like the family business. And it doesn't 497 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 3: mean I can't have a relationship with my family. Just 498 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 3: mean that, Hey, my business is a whole nother arena, 499 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 3: you know it is. I'll come to see you. I'm say, 500 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,160 Speaker 3: I'm gonna check on you, how you're doing. I love you. 501 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,920 Speaker 3: I gotta get to work. I love y'all. I see 502 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:25,680 Speaker 3: you be good. Many say, hey, get them grades up. No, No, 503 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 3: I see you know and I did it. 504 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 1: No, No, no, I can you face something? No looking crazy? 505 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 1: My good work on the nicest She wanted me to. 506 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:38,680 Speaker 1: She didn't believe he was my cousin. 507 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 2: I'm over there looking. I'm like, girl, can I. 508 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:42,359 Speaker 3: Pull up on ship? No? 509 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 1: Absolutely not. 510 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:49,399 Speaker 3: Absolutely. All these harassments we gotta take harassment class. You 511 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 3: don't know what you don't know what we learned, and 512 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 3: you can't just be no, no, I'm not bringing you 513 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:57,919 Speaker 3: this is this is the big league, the game on, 514 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. So you know, it's just 515 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 3: it's it's it's a big shift. And people will think 516 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,919 Speaker 3: you acting funny. You know, it's like, oh, bro, like 517 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,879 Speaker 3: you tripping, like because I ain't answering the phone because 518 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 3: I got to play a scene where I'm depressed, depressed literally, 519 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:20,879 Speaker 3: you know. So it's just like it's the it's those 520 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 3: those things and those scripts that come in that that 521 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 3: force you to lock in it, you know, And that's 522 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 3: the I mean, I wouldn't even say that's just an actor. 523 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,680 Speaker 3: Any anything you want to do in life, like if 524 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 3: you want to be a gymnast, if you want to 525 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 3: be a lawyer, it takes that. You got to clock 526 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 3: in you. But I also learned I've also learned how 527 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 3: to close the office too, Like at home, I got 528 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,640 Speaker 3: I got my office and then like I really try 529 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 3: to be out of the office by five or six 530 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 3: o'clock in the evening, where I'm like, all right, don't 531 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 3: you know, but you you set your own times up, 532 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 3: like every day might be different. Yeah, you know, what 533 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 3: I mean, you may start a little later, like tonight, tonight, 534 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 3: one of them night. Yeah, you know what I mean 535 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 3: a minute, because I've had to I've had to run 536 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:10,680 Speaker 3: scenes till one am, two am before with a nine 537 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:14,359 Speaker 3: am call to set the same, you know, and you 538 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:16,920 Speaker 3: know you have to make those decisions. But I've also 539 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,680 Speaker 3: just just learned on when to turn it on, when 540 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:21,439 Speaker 3: to turn it off for me. That's good, so I 541 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:23,439 Speaker 3: could so I could be ready for the next day. Exactly, 542 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 3: there's always another day because sleep is important. I listen. 543 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:28,920 Speaker 1: I tell Deval all the time because we would in 544 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 1: the first few seasons, we would push ourselves and I'm like, 545 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 1: all right, we just wrapped yea, y'all knocking it out 546 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 1: back to back, back to next. 547 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 3: I like theater, no literal, we shoot. 548 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 1: We literally shoot like we're in front of a live audience. 549 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 1: That one take because Tyler comes from the theater. 550 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 3: Shout out the time I got my first gig on 551 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 3: one of my first gigs, House of Pain. 552 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:50,639 Speaker 1: Really wow. And that's still going. It's crazy, that is 553 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 1: still going. 554 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 3: Yeah. I talked to the Lands. I'm like, man, what 555 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:56,440 Speaker 3: season y'all? You said, bro, like thirteen something? Crazy? 556 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, like, I'm like, I need to be that's type 557 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:00,680 Speaker 1: of longevity. I need consistent. 558 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 2: I love it talent, but no I get it. 559 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 1: Like and we would literally like push ourselves, and by 560 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 1: like season maybe four, I was like, do you I 561 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 1: can't keep doing this. I was like, let me go 562 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 1: to sleep, cause I we used to stay on campus 563 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 1: after COVID we would stay at the studio. 564 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:17,439 Speaker 3: Gotcha. 565 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 1: So afterward we wrapped. Alright, I'm about to go ar 566 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 1: some crab legs. Let's get these lines down for the 567 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 1: next day. And one day we were running lines and 568 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:29,680 Speaker 1: I was like and he was like Christmas. I was like, no, 569 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 1: He's like Christmas. I say yeah, and I was like, 570 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 1: I gotta go to sleep. 571 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 3: I can't. 572 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 1: So I went and I was like I went to sleep. 573 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 1: And then the next day knew every line. He was like, 574 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:39,439 Speaker 1: how did you do that? And I was like, I 575 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,440 Speaker 1: gotta sleep. 576 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 3: You gotta sleep on it, cause you you'll try to 577 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 3: run them lines at that one a two am and 578 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 3: you just stumbling over and that brain rest a little bit. 579 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 3: Let HI marinate. It's almost like when I was usual 580 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 3: to go to dance class, like I really didn't know. 581 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 3: I didn't know the moves that that day, if we 582 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 3: they talked the next day and for the song or 583 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 3: the tour we were rehearsing for. I just the movies 584 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 3: just coming out for yeah, like you gotta sleep? Yeah 585 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. 586 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:10,439 Speaker 1: Yes, but anything that's exactly exactly. When it comes to 587 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,960 Speaker 1: roles that you choose as an actor, do you let 588 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,160 Speaker 1: the story speak to you? Are there some absolute things 589 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,159 Speaker 1: that you look for in the character? How do you 590 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 1: go through that process? Like you just had two auditions today? 591 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 1: What made you say I wanna read for these? 592 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 3: It's it's a it's a It's a layer of things. 593 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,359 Speaker 3: It's a layer of things. I think at this point, 594 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 3: I'm definitely looking at first, I'm looking at script, looking 595 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:33,159 Speaker 3: at story doesn't move me? Yeah, there is it? Is it? 596 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:38,439 Speaker 3: Is it lighthearted? Is it heavy? You know? Sometimes it 597 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 3: could it could be either or Who's who's the director? Yeah, 598 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 3: who's the producers? 599 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:44,400 Speaker 2: Important? 600 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:48,640 Speaker 3: You know? I I I'm I'm at a point right now. 601 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,640 Speaker 3: I want I wanna go for the biggest p commercial gigs, 602 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:53,200 Speaker 3: you know what I mean? I want to try to 603 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:55,879 Speaker 3: I wanna win, Yeah, you know, yeah, I wanna I 604 00:27:55,880 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 3: wanna be next to seasoned actors, you know. So I 605 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,119 Speaker 3: I do make those choices, and I do ask who's 606 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:06,440 Speaker 3: cast it asks, you know, and it's no, it's no 607 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 3: shade or anything. There's nothing like, oh I can't work 608 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 3: with this person because of this or that. Like it's 609 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 3: like it's just I paid my dues before, you know, 610 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 3: I started young, and I want that next level. I 611 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 3: love Timothy Chaloma's like speech ye, He's like, I want 612 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 3: to I want to strive for the to be a 613 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:25,720 Speaker 3: great you know, and I'm inspired by the greats in 614 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:28,879 Speaker 3: the room, and I want to be next to greats, 615 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 3: and I want to work with greats on to be 616 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 3: on screen with great you know. And that's just if 617 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 3: if greats and that to say my peers and my 618 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 3: peers aren't great, that's it's I have some peers that 619 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 3: are really great, and I prefer to work with yeah. 620 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know. 621 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 3: Like when I worked with Kelvin Harrison in this film 622 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 3: called Kelly, I was like. 623 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 1: Brouh, you like my favorite actor, that's one of my 624 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 1: favorite Yeah. 625 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 3: I actually that film, I actually met Jonathan Majors for 626 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 3: the first time. I was like, bruh, out of here. 627 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 3: Oh no, he had a side like I had the 628 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 3: side on my hand douring rehearsal his sides. Ready, He's 629 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 3: just ready still was cut up T shirt, abbs. I'm 630 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 3: like these sides, I'm ready. I'm like ready, I'm ready 631 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 3: to I think he made a jog around us in 632 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 3: the three sixty to get his breath pumping up for 633 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 3: the scene. For the particular scene we were shooting. He 634 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 3: was just like and I was. 635 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 1: Like, incredible. Do you know where he studies? 636 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 2: I always loved to like people. 637 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 3: Do you do that? I believe he went to school like. 638 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 1: He was like, okay when classical trained, because I always 639 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 1: looked to see like people that I love and they're working, 640 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 1: I'm like, where did they study? Because if I can 641 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 1: get some type of intensive course in, I like to 642 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 1: keep that tool sharp. 643 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 3: I definitely watched and Terrence Terrence Howard was on that set. 644 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 3: It was a it was a pretty pretty cool Charlie 645 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 3: Plumber some really like really amazing people, like right before 646 00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:00,040 Speaker 3: they really took off, you know, And it was that 647 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,719 Speaker 3: that was the beauty of working on a film like that. 648 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, what made you say yes to that one? 649 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 3: The script was just like super you feel like the 650 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 3: character not me at all, Like if if anybody that's 651 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 3: seen the film would be like, oh, you got a 652 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,960 Speaker 3: whole different but I believe mcguil. Mcguil reached out to me. 653 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 3: It was like, bro, they don't even know what you're of. Wow, 654 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 3: And that meant a lot to me because you know, 655 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 3: when you're doing a new role, he kind of like 656 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 3: he kind of insecure, like You're like, man, like, I 657 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 3: don't know if I am I killing it? Am I really? 658 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 3: You know? Cause audition a shout out to the bill. 659 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 3: I auditioned like six times, and shout out to him 660 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 3: for believing in me, you know what I mean. Like 661 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 3: it was like audition for like five or six times. 662 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 3: He was like, more more, You're not going hard. You're 663 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 3: too smooth. Like it was just like too smooth, Like 664 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 3: you're too like check it off. I was like, right right, 665 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 3: you're like because I seen R and B. You know, 666 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 3: I'm just I'm Jacob Lotimore. 667 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 1: He like that off, you're off, it's. 668 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 3: Not gonna work here. Yeah, So wow. 669 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 1: Was it frustrating like a little bit, because you like, 670 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 1: I'm sure at this point in your career you're like either. 671 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 3: You want me or you don't like But it was 672 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 3: it was just refreshing though, because usually after the third 673 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 3: audition they on to the they're looking for the next person. 674 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 2: You like, we're getting somewhere. 675 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 3: So I believe he was in He was definitely in 676 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,959 Speaker 3: there fighting for me. Yeah, because then you know, a 677 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 3: producer may have a favorite, the director might have a writer. 678 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 3: You know, the director is like, no, I see something 679 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:41,960 Speaker 3: that you push. 680 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 1: Harder, and that's who has to work with. 681 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 3: You know that director the bill for pushing me on 682 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 3: that was you know, that's a that's a film I 683 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 3: always cherished, just the learning lesson. Yeah. 684 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 1: I mean in your career, what has been like the 685 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,720 Speaker 1: most challenging thing that you had to deal with, like 686 00:31:57,800 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 1: on set. I'm sure that was one of the most. 687 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 3: Definite it was that the most challenge I would say. 688 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 3: I would say I would say definitely it was. Yeah, 689 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 3: I haven't I haven't been challenged like that in a 690 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 3: long time. I mean, Season seven of The Shot is 691 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 3: gonna be uh it was. It pulled on me emotionally 692 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 3: and it's going through some heavy stuff. He's not always 693 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 3: smiles and fun and jokes. Yeah, I would say this 694 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 3: is probably the toughest season for me on the Shot, 695 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 3: just on the locking in part like, oh no, I can't. 696 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 3: I gotta get I have to be ready for this. 697 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:39,960 Speaker 2: To be able to perform the way you need to. 698 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 3: Because we you know, we you both you and I 699 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 3: both know how like when they got to film that 700 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,400 Speaker 3: scene that day and they're on that time schedule and 701 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 3: they got that shot up and you're trying, You're trying 702 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 3: to be ready for that moment. Ain't no room for air? 703 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 1: Are you a method actor? 704 00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 3: I can be for Udy y'all, I definitely was. Yeah, 705 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 3: would kill him. Uh. And it depends. It depends on 706 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 3: the the heaviness of it. Like if it's some room 707 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 3: for me to add me in there, I don't really 708 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 3: be on anything method. 709 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. 710 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 3: If it's like not me at all, you gotta wake 711 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 3: up close the whole time it lock it. I may 712 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 3: not show up to set with that energy that I 713 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 3: would like to show up to stay with. Yeah, cause 714 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 3: I want to make sure I'm not acting funnier like uh, 715 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 3: causing any refraft cause some people could take the method 716 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:35,760 Speaker 3: thing and be rude, be rude, Yeah, like I I wanna. 717 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 3: I want to just let people know like, hey, I'm. 718 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 1: Just you just had films and then as soon as 719 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 1: you reverends like, man, thank you so much. Yeah, no, 720 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 1: I get it. 721 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 3: You doing this. 722 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,400 Speaker 1: There are sounds like even with my hair and makeup team, 723 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 1: they know me so well, but before they really understood 724 00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 1: my method, they would be like key Ken and I 725 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 1: would have super emotion to like, hey, can y'all just 726 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 1: bring it down just a little bit because I can't 727 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 1: be like and over here like trying to keep that 728 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 1: because I'm a naturally happy person and I'm not. I'm 729 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 1: getting to the point where I can almost cry, like 730 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 1: to the drop, but I need it takes the men 731 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 1: to build it. 732 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,640 Speaker 3: I'm not like a yeah, and it gets harder to 733 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 3: you because you're like you built tough for skin. You 734 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 3: don't You're not as emotional as you was, you know, 735 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 3: so you gotta like go listen to that one song. 736 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,120 Speaker 1: Listen what's your song right now? 737 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:34,919 Speaker 3: I think I listened to. I think it was it's 738 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:38,279 Speaker 3: a voice to men record. Okay, I don't want to 739 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 3: say it. 740 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:40,800 Speaker 1: I want to say it, and I shouldn't ask you 741 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 1: that because my acting coach, so you never asked an 742 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:46,319 Speaker 1: actor what they're like, trigger is or like their song 743 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:46,719 Speaker 1: or whatever. 744 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 3: It's all good now because it's a couple. It's a couple. 745 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:52,400 Speaker 3: And then it's actually an old song that my my, 746 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,880 Speaker 3: my dad and my uncles sung when they were teenagers, 747 00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:55,800 Speaker 3: the gospel. 748 00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 1: Record Your dad was a singer. 749 00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,839 Speaker 3: Wow. Okay, Yeah, so like my dad and my uncles, 750 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,839 Speaker 3: they formed a gospel quartet whenever young call them more 751 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:08,239 Speaker 3: Wow and uh yeah, they were actually touring and doing 752 00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:11,280 Speaker 3: that thing. And and then they later on got signed 753 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:13,840 Speaker 3: to m c A Records by Randy Jackson doing R 754 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:15,920 Speaker 3: and D. 755 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 1: That's What's Up. 756 00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so it's that room. Was was amazing for them. 757 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,319 Speaker 3: And I learned a lot watching them, I can imagine, yeah, 758 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:25,359 Speaker 3: just hearing their stories and you know, learning a lot 759 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:27,920 Speaker 3: from my uncle. Yeah, your uncle still to this day. 760 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:32,400 Speaker 3: Like Jake, stay focused, stay focused, Little Jake who loves 761 00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 3: out there, Little Jake, stay focused. Don't let him stay 762 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:38,280 Speaker 3: out there. 763 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:41,319 Speaker 1: Shout out. We need we need those voices in our 764 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,880 Speaker 1: ears because it can't get a little crazy. You know, 765 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:45,839 Speaker 1: when you're it's so much coming at you and life 766 00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:49,360 Speaker 1: is changing so fast, you need to stay grounded. Absolutely, 767 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:50,439 Speaker 1: shout out that. 768 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 3: Got to listen to it, yes, absolutely. 769 00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:56,879 Speaker 1: Speaking of music, one of my favorite songs right now 770 00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:02,439 Speaker 1: is Residuals oh yeah, like I slid on it there 771 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:06,520 Speaker 1: you let me tell you something, record bodied you bodied 772 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 1: the When Tank started the challenge, I was always I'm like, okay, now, 773 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:12,440 Speaker 1: who's cause that song is just like so good and 774 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:18,520 Speaker 1: I want to be I'll take When he started that, 775 00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:20,640 Speaker 1: I was like, who's gonna like hop on this? And 776 00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:22,480 Speaker 1: when you came in, baby, let me tell you something, 777 00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:24,760 Speaker 1: I was like, hey, what enough fire signs? 778 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:28,759 Speaker 3: I was like so good? You know. When I saw 779 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:32,560 Speaker 3: the challenge bit put up and I was like, I 780 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:34,319 Speaker 3: just put my phone down. I was like, I ain't 781 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:34,840 Speaker 3: doing it. 782 00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 1: Really, he was ain't gonna do it? What puts you 783 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:37,560 Speaker 1: to do it? 784 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:41,359 Speaker 3: Family members they're like, you gotta have a little jay. 785 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:44,040 Speaker 3: I know you don't do the covers, nore, Yeah, you 786 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:47,439 Speaker 3: gotta do this one. Listen, you gotta do this one. 787 00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:53,600 Speaker 3: And I was just like, so, I literally I have 788 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:57,040 Speaker 3: recorded it, filmed it, and I literally wasn't about to 789 00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 3: throw it up really like I had did everything that. 790 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:01,960 Speaker 3: It was like, I was like, nah, what was the hesitation? 791 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,680 Speaker 3: It was just I just felt nervous. My body was shaken, 792 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:10,640 Speaker 3: you know that kind of like adrenaline rush. I pressed here, 793 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:15,560 Speaker 3: there's like a hundred comments and like two s I'm like, 794 00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:18,719 Speaker 3: here we go upstairs and just I was like, I'm like, 795 00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:22,600 Speaker 3: what's going on? Yeah? What you what you mean? What 796 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:23,120 Speaker 3: do you mean? 797 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:24,560 Speaker 1: Bro? 798 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:28,440 Speaker 4: I see that's how you're feeling. 799 00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,040 Speaker 1: Because we were all like, oh, that's how you feeling. 800 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:33,920 Speaker 3: Look, it's just R and B. It's music, you know, 801 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,680 Speaker 3: shout out c B. Yes you know. I got a 802 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,120 Speaker 3: chance to kick it with c B. And I went 803 00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:42,480 Speaker 3: to go see him in Brazil and Yo. 804 00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:45,440 Speaker 1: His international run was insane. 805 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:49,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, like and a lot of the dancers that's with 806 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:52,160 Speaker 3: him I grew up with and just being out in 807 00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:55,160 Speaker 3: l A just seeing them their growth as well. So 808 00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:57,640 Speaker 3: it was just it was a full circle moment and 809 00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:59,400 Speaker 3: I just had to hop on it. I'm like, you know, 810 00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,319 Speaker 3: I'm like, I almost hesitant. Yeah, I know. They was like, 811 00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:04,480 Speaker 3: I feel like nobody was kind of expecting me to 812 00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:06,600 Speaker 3: do it either, just because I've just been so wrapped 813 00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:09,160 Speaker 3: into the film. But it was a cool moment for 814 00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:12,799 Speaker 3: for me to just show my talent on the music side. 815 00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:15,160 Speaker 3: A lot of a lot of a lot of fans 816 00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:18,719 Speaker 3: don't know I've ever did music. What I've seen like 817 00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:24,200 Speaker 3: a lot of comments they're like when image starts singing forever, 818 00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:28,400 Speaker 3: you know the world so big, and you you gotta 819 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,520 Speaker 3: constantly humble yourself and say, no, I still got I 820 00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:33,560 Speaker 3: still got more to prove on the side, I still 821 00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:35,880 Speaker 3: got people to win over. I still got more territory 822 00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:36,360 Speaker 3: to conquer. 823 00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:40,440 Speaker 1: And I would say something that song, how vulnerable you 824 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:44,160 Speaker 1: were in your cover on that one. I feel like 825 00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:47,480 Speaker 1: you have that like usher confessions type of like vulnerability 826 00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:49,680 Speaker 1: where you're really pouring your heart out and sharing your 827 00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:52,760 Speaker 1: truth and something that a lot of people aren't comfortable doing. 828 00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:54,719 Speaker 1: Are you now that you're working on your own music, 829 00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:57,400 Speaker 1: original music? Is that something that you're putting into your 830 00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:57,919 Speaker 1: music now? 831 00:38:58,080 --> 00:38:59,120 Speaker 3: Yeah? What thing was? 832 00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:01,160 Speaker 1: I had been doing it. 833 00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:04,960 Speaker 3: It's just like I'm an independent artist, so it hadn't 834 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:07,360 Speaker 3: It didn't really hit when I actually dropped it. I 835 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:11,440 Speaker 3: dropped the EP called Closure just about just how it 836 00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:13,960 Speaker 3: was feeling, you know. But I guess it was like 837 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,160 Speaker 3: it was kind of quiet. You know, my my core 838 00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,920 Speaker 3: fans knew about it. Yes, but you know, something like 839 00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,319 Speaker 3: that come about they're like, oh, we ain't do music, Like, oh, 840 00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:23,480 Speaker 3: he's been dropping stuff for a long time. I've been 841 00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:26,640 Speaker 3: I've been dropping heartbreak music I've been dropping you know, 842 00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:30,759 Speaker 3: the heel musical. You know what I'm saying. Connection one, 843 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:36,000 Speaker 3: Connection two, Connection three came out twenty sixteen, and you know, 844 00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:38,680 Speaker 3: so now it's just a lot more eyes yeah on 845 00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:41,759 Speaker 3: my next project and with social media too. And then 846 00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,200 Speaker 3: the yeah part of me was like I need my 847 00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:47,279 Speaker 3: I wish my album was done now, right now, perfect time, 848 00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:50,000 Speaker 3: because like we gotta do certain things, you know, we 849 00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,200 Speaker 3: gotta we gotta be when it's hot. We got to 850 00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:54,799 Speaker 3: catch that moment we're not. I'm not signed to a 851 00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:56,960 Speaker 3: major company. I do want to go back major one day. 852 00:39:56,960 --> 00:40:01,920 Speaker 3: I just I think for me, I just understand what 853 00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:05,000 Speaker 3: the contract is. I understand what it is like, I 854 00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:08,040 Speaker 3: understand that I understand the power of a major label like, 855 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:11,960 Speaker 3: but I also understand the freedom of being independent. And 856 00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:14,400 Speaker 3: it does work for me because I am on sept 857 00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:19,480 Speaker 3: most of the time. Yeah, but major, I mean major 858 00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:22,759 Speaker 3: companies still got uh, they still got their foot in 859 00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,919 Speaker 3: the game in the way that it's it's still tough 860 00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:28,280 Speaker 3: for us, know, but I want to go back with 861 00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:29,880 Speaker 3: with leverage. Though I don't want to just go back 862 00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:33,120 Speaker 3: to go back to go back with it's gotta be, 863 00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:35,480 Speaker 3: it's gotta be right. It's gotta make it's gotta be 864 00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:37,560 Speaker 3: worth my while. Yes, you know what I mean. You 865 00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:40,279 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, what I was saying. What I'm saying, 866 00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:43,279 Speaker 3: it's gotta be worth it. 867 00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:44,040 Speaker 1: It has to be. 868 00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:45,600 Speaker 2: That's a signing. I say all the time. 869 00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:48,319 Speaker 1: If we're gonna go to a bigger company for representation, 870 00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:50,919 Speaker 1: they have to be doing more than what we're doing here. 871 00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:53,640 Speaker 1: And West too, We're like, if they ain't doing we 872 00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:58,640 Speaker 1: listen to three of us, listen, we go get it. Yeah, 873 00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:00,239 Speaker 1: so y'all had to bring more than what are we 874 00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:03,319 Speaker 1: doing ourselves. We can keep that money, you. 875 00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:06,920 Speaker 3: Know, cause it's just you know, you just understand when 876 00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,640 Speaker 3: you think about your favorite artists, right, you think about 877 00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:13,319 Speaker 3: your favorite touring artists. If you I don't know, you 878 00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:15,759 Speaker 3: can name anybody and you and you look at that 879 00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:18,360 Speaker 3: touring numbers, and you look at who they're signed to. 880 00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,480 Speaker 3: They signed to the big dogs. You know, they just 881 00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:24,600 Speaker 3: it is what it is. They can't start off that way, Yes, 882 00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:27,320 Speaker 3: they started they started off indy. You know, it's a 883 00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:29,120 Speaker 3: great way to it's a great way to know how 884 00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:31,200 Speaker 3: to be a boss, indye, Like it's know how to 885 00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:34,280 Speaker 3: go get your own records, put your own studio time, 886 00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:39,399 Speaker 3: shoot your own music video. Yeah, like you gotta. It's 887 00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:42,319 Speaker 3: a direct to consumer thing. You definitely gotta learn, no 888 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:44,640 Speaker 3: doubt about it, because you'll you'll get to a record 889 00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:46,560 Speaker 3: company and be like, well, they ain't doing nothing for me, 890 00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:51,040 Speaker 3: but they they only they watching you, right, you gotta 891 00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:53,319 Speaker 3: you gotta see that you moving. They gotta see that 892 00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:55,759 Speaker 3: you posting four or five times a day that you're 893 00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,920 Speaker 3: dedicated about it, so they can't so you can't access 894 00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:02,719 Speaker 3: that capital that they have. Exactly, you know what I mean, 895 00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:06,600 Speaker 3: Like a lot of people compare their independent releases to 896 00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:09,799 Speaker 3: a major artist release that that major artist may have 897 00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:13,000 Speaker 3: a million dollars on the mark, back off the gate. 898 00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:15,399 Speaker 3: As soon as that record drop, a million dollars is spent, 899 00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:17,879 Speaker 3: and now it's everywhere. It's in H and M, it's 900 00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:21,600 Speaker 3: in elevators, exactly like you like, oh my one mother, 901 00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:24,800 Speaker 3: stuff ain't popping you Like, you can't even compare your dollars. 902 00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:28,040 Speaker 3: You know, you gotta focus on your audience and then 903 00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:31,439 Speaker 3: when it's when it's the right time, ye go expend yep. 904 00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:34,480 Speaker 1: Exactly. I love that switching gears a little bit. I 905 00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:38,200 Speaker 1: want to talk about love relationships and personal growth as 906 00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:40,239 Speaker 1: a young man. Who the ladies love? 907 00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:44,399 Speaker 3: Is that love? Ladies? Is that? Is that true? Why 908 00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:48,960 Speaker 3: is that lady? Why is that lady alone? From night 909 00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:50,520 Speaker 3: to night? You fand me? 910 00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:56,279 Speaker 6: You see, he wonders why you'll see that? 911 00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:58,240 Speaker 3: That's my favorite interview. 912 00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:03,200 Speaker 1: Oh my guys classic. Do you find it hard to 913 00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:08,600 Speaker 1: date being in the public eye? Cause you done play relationships? 914 00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:11,320 Speaker 3: But really, I mean at first it it seems a 915 00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:15,880 Speaker 3: little unorthodox. I mean it is different. Yeah, spotlight is different, 916 00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:19,279 Speaker 3: you know when when dating. But at this point it's 917 00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:21,319 Speaker 3: just like this just come with the territory. Yeah, it's 918 00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:23,600 Speaker 3: just it's my life, you know, I like that, you 919 00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:26,200 Speaker 3: know what I mean. It's like it ain't really you 920 00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:28,480 Speaker 3: learn to kind of just brush off certain things, you 921 00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:30,239 Speaker 3: know what I mean. So it's just it took some 922 00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:33,320 Speaker 3: while to getting used to. Yeah, everything being so public, 923 00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:36,640 Speaker 3: you like, oh whoa, Okay, l people really care about 924 00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,719 Speaker 3: who you're with or you with and how you're how 925 00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,239 Speaker 3: you're moving, how you're moving as a unit. Yeah, and 926 00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:46,360 Speaker 3: you know it's just not you can't just take it 927 00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:50,319 Speaker 3: lightly like people if you putting it out there like whoa, yeah, 928 00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:51,920 Speaker 3: exactly where be ready? 929 00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:53,920 Speaker 1: Social media, like, has that was that ever like a 930 00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:56,839 Speaker 1: issue in your cause? I know for me, like they 931 00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:59,200 Speaker 1: like you just give one little clue and the like 932 00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:02,319 Speaker 1: they know the person's whole life, their whole backstory, and 933 00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:03,600 Speaker 1: then they have an opinion on everything. 934 00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:07,399 Speaker 3: And it's like, yeah, like now I would ask I would, 935 00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:08,960 Speaker 3: I would have a lot more boundaries. 936 00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:10,320 Speaker 1: Now what would you? 937 00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:12,400 Speaker 3: I would? I would just be like, no, let's not 938 00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:16,240 Speaker 3: let's not throw that up. Honestly me personally, at this point, 939 00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:21,080 Speaker 3: I wouldn't pop out until it's my wife. I'm with you, 940 00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:23,279 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. Yes, I'm not out. 941 00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:26,600 Speaker 1: Yes, that's that's when my boundaries for dating. There's no 942 00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:31,080 Speaker 1: red carpets, no like social media post I'm not gonna 943 00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:32,600 Speaker 1: hide you. We can go out and do whatever. If 944 00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:35,520 Speaker 1: people see us, they see us, but I'm not broadcasting 945 00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:38,160 Speaker 1: it until that's that's just for my husband. 946 00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:46,120 Speaker 3: It's done. I'm popping out like I'm with you. That's 947 00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:49,960 Speaker 3: that's that's how I would like to do because just 948 00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:53,359 Speaker 3: popped off. But we were like yeah, and it just 949 00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:57,239 Speaker 3: it just it's it's more peaceful that way. Way. More 950 00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:01,080 Speaker 3: gotta deal with everybody all in you and your stuff. 951 00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:01,360 Speaker 3: You know. 952 00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:06,640 Speaker 1: I love that. So I want to know Jacob's dream girl. 953 00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:09,040 Speaker 1: If you could like give the DNA or the makeup 954 00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:12,080 Speaker 1: and the qualities of your dream girl, what. 955 00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:16,680 Speaker 3: Would she be like? Dream girl? First thing coming around? 956 00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:20,440 Speaker 3: Just a golly thinking woman, like not a perfect When 957 00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:24,240 Speaker 3: I say golly, that's not it doesn't mean she's absolutely 958 00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:27,840 Speaker 3: I'm not perfect, Like I mean, just somebody that's always, 959 00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:33,360 Speaker 3: uh constantly feeling that conviction down the walk, you know, 960 00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:36,840 Speaker 3: trying to live a life of like a sense of 961 00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:40,120 Speaker 3: like repentance. Oh man, like yesterday I could have been better. 962 00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:43,520 Speaker 3: You know, I want to be better. I think I'm 963 00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:47,160 Speaker 3: looking not looking, but if I if I see someone like, yeah, 964 00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:51,480 Speaker 3: I like that. You know, because in the industry we're in, 965 00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:53,120 Speaker 3: we're dealing with a lot of spirits. We're dealing with 966 00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:55,400 Speaker 3: a lot of things going on at home. I needed 967 00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:57,880 Speaker 3: to be I need to feel like holy gyl, you 968 00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:01,319 Speaker 3: know what I mean. It needed to be like you 969 00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:04,120 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. I mean, I'm I'm in the 970 00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:07,360 Speaker 3: kingdom of you know something. 971 00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:09,000 Speaker 1: I love. 972 00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:13,240 Speaker 3: That's that's that's important for me. That's I think ultimately, 973 00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:16,200 Speaker 3: that's that's a dream girl. And then you know, outside 974 00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:18,520 Speaker 3: of that, I needed to be in the gym. In 975 00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:20,719 Speaker 3: the gym. Yes, I love to work out. I love 976 00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:22,640 Speaker 3: to work out with my partner. Like I think it's 977 00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:26,040 Speaker 3: a I think it's very I think I feel like 978 00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:32,160 Speaker 3: it's empowering. Its great bonding, good conversation, therapy. 979 00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:36,200 Speaker 1: Come on, so do you have a therapist? I do good. 980 00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,960 Speaker 3: It's been it's been a few months. That's what I was. 981 00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:43,200 Speaker 3: I was. I was heavy in it. I need to 982 00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:46,160 Speaker 3: get back in there, get back in there. But it's 983 00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:48,600 Speaker 3: it was great for me because it taught me how 984 00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:52,280 Speaker 3: to manage a lot on my own and let stuff 985 00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:54,880 Speaker 3: go that like you She's like, why are you carrying that? 986 00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:56,160 Speaker 3: You like? 987 00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:58,520 Speaker 1: I don't know, that's a good question, but. 988 00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:03,839 Speaker 3: Why you know so that I like, I like girl 989 00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:07,000 Speaker 3: some style, you know. But that's that could be taught too. 990 00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:09,920 Speaker 1: It can that could be always say that I can 991 00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:10,359 Speaker 1: handle that. 992 00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:12,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, that could be taught. Like I'm like, can you 993 00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:13,480 Speaker 3: put this on? 994 00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:15,560 Speaker 2: It's already laid. 995 00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:21,160 Speaker 3: That's crazy, and Piper up like yeah, like, hey that 996 00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:25,720 Speaker 3: looks crazy. We hey, I see you, Like what's happened? 997 00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:32,520 Speaker 3: You know? So you know those are materialistic things that 998 00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:36,600 Speaker 3: could be taught, and then you know, it's all I 999 00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:38,680 Speaker 3: had this conversation not so long ago. I'm like, do 1000 00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:41,280 Speaker 3: I want to do I want to working working woman 1001 00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:43,520 Speaker 3: or do I want to at homegirl? 1002 00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:43,839 Speaker 1: Yeah? 1003 00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:46,120 Speaker 3: Because I am such a workaholic. 1004 00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:47,960 Speaker 1: You need It's almost like you need a balance, bud 1005 00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:50,359 Speaker 1: y'all can't be Yeah, how do you feel about that? 1006 00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:53,120 Speaker 3: I don't know yet, you know, I really don't know yet. 1007 00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:56,000 Speaker 3: I mean it's not that I don't want my girl 1008 00:47:56,040 --> 00:48:00,319 Speaker 3: to have ambition and work ethic, you know what I mean. 1009 00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:02,880 Speaker 3: I feel like I think she she definitely has something 1010 00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:05,040 Speaker 3: that she loves to do, but I don't want her 1011 00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:08,719 Speaker 3: to feel like she got to do it. Like like 1012 00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:11,200 Speaker 3: like when I'm like when I come home, I need 1013 00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:11,839 Speaker 3: you to be at the crib? 1014 00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:13,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, where you at? 1015 00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:16,000 Speaker 3: You know? And that's that's and I check myself. That's 1016 00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:18,160 Speaker 3: maybe a little selfish in me, a little bit, you 1017 00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:19,200 Speaker 3: know a little bit. 1018 00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:21,200 Speaker 1: But it's honest. But it's yeah, you have to be 1019 00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:23,279 Speaker 1: honest with yourself and what you need, you know, and 1020 00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:25,239 Speaker 1: finding the person that's like yeah, I can I. 1021 00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:29,600 Speaker 3: Can do that, you know? Yeah. Yeah, it's something I'm 1022 00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:34,239 Speaker 3: still on the with that, Like I'm still like no, no, no, no, no, 1023 00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:38,680 Speaker 3: I need because I've had situations where where a girl 1024 00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:40,960 Speaker 3: paid a girl paid for me. One time, I was like, 1025 00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:42,799 Speaker 3: okay for you, like like in the sense of like 1026 00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:47,640 Speaker 3: dinner and like my birthday. I was like, I always 1027 00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:50,600 Speaker 3: always like I feel cringey because I'm like, I'm so 1028 00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:53,640 Speaker 3: used to being the one, you know, And I was like, 1029 00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:56,200 Speaker 3: I'm like that kind of felt good. 1030 00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:59,440 Speaker 2: I'm like, oh god, you get used to this, like 1031 00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:01,280 Speaker 2: some bread. 1032 00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:05,480 Speaker 3: And then I'm like, oh no, the spirit. It's the 1033 00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:09,120 Speaker 3: spirit because that's more important, way more, you know what 1034 00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:13,160 Speaker 3: I'm saying. So it's it's always a battle. But I 1035 00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:15,880 Speaker 3: think for me, I'm just I'm really trying to force 1036 00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:18,800 Speaker 3: myself into space right now to be single. It's the 1037 00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:23,919 Speaker 3: longest I've ever been lately. I started out dating young relationships, 1038 00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:25,799 Speaker 3: so I was like back to back laceship for like 1039 00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:26,319 Speaker 3: ten years. 1040 00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:28,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was a habitual dater, Like you break up 1041 00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:31,360 Speaker 1: and I'm like, yeap, next, yeah, next, because one was public, 1042 00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:34,920 Speaker 1: but the other ones was private and then long and 1043 00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:35,799 Speaker 1: no one's seen that. 1044 00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:39,719 Speaker 3: So I'm just like, I don't want to preach like, oh, 1045 00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:42,080 Speaker 3: you should be single, you should never date, Like that's 1046 00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:43,640 Speaker 3: not what I want to put out there. I just 1047 00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:46,040 Speaker 3: think for me in this season, it's just good for 1048 00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:49,800 Speaker 3: me to enjoy my home, yes, and the silence of 1049 00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:52,400 Speaker 3: my career. It's important, yeah, you know, and just and 1050 00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:54,720 Speaker 3: take that time out before I share it with somebody. 1051 00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:56,480 Speaker 2: And I'll tell you something because I'm a lot older 1052 00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:57,040 Speaker 2: than you. 1053 00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:00,719 Speaker 1: When I had a season of my life or I 1054 00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:03,160 Speaker 1: didn't date as well, And I feel like when you're 1055 00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:07,160 Speaker 1: like us and we've dated so like rapid or frequently, 1056 00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:09,520 Speaker 1: and you have all these different people and there's different 1057 00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:12,440 Speaker 1: energies and just poor and poor and pooring because when 1058 00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:15,000 Speaker 1: you're a relationship, it's all about your partner, you know, 1059 00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:17,040 Speaker 1: And there comes a time where you do have to 1060 00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:19,640 Speaker 1: be selfish as you or whatever people want to call it. 1061 00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:21,759 Speaker 1: But I think in those moments you learn so much 1062 00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:25,800 Speaker 1: about yourself. You learn how to figure out what it 1063 00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:27,799 Speaker 1: is you like. Because sometimes we can be in relationships 1064 00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:29,279 Speaker 1: like whatever you like, whatever you want to do, and 1065 00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:30,440 Speaker 1: it's like what do I like? 1066 00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:31,040 Speaker 3: You know? 1067 00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:32,960 Speaker 1: And I feel like in those moments of solitude and 1068 00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:36,239 Speaker 1: just not being with somebody, you learn exactly what you want. 1069 00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:37,759 Speaker 1: So I'm proud of you. 1070 00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:37,920 Speaker 3: Thank you. 1071 00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:39,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, because. 1072 00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:40,840 Speaker 1: A lot I mean people date like you shouldn't be 1073 00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:43,040 Speaker 1: alone and know sometimes you need those. 1074 00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:45,920 Speaker 3: Doesn't necessarily mean that I don't go kick it, you know, 1075 00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:48,759 Speaker 3: like it's just my home is for me, you know. 1076 00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:51,360 Speaker 3: But I go to dinner, you know, like I'll go 1077 00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:53,200 Speaker 3: you know, I have a dinner with a nice young 1078 00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:55,480 Speaker 3: lady in Atlanta. 1079 00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:57,840 Speaker 1: We go to South. 1080 00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:04,319 Speaker 3: Atlanta, said wing limit, Pamper. You know, you might catch 1081 00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:06,560 Speaker 3: a vibe, you know. So it ain't like I'm just 1082 00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:08,239 Speaker 3: like so isolated. 1083 00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:10,080 Speaker 1: But you're not so like I got to get somebody, 1084 00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:11,880 Speaker 1: like you're not on the hunt or on the prowl. 1085 00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:15,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm very vocal on just like, hey, I'm not 1086 00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:19,200 Speaker 3: I'm not really taking things serious right now. 1087 00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:20,600 Speaker 1: So you're not let anyone on. 1088 00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:25,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know it is tough. It's tough. 1089 00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:28,280 Speaker 1: You listen, I'm trying to tell you it's very tough. 1090 00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:28,760 Speaker 3: Because it's easy. 1091 00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:31,160 Speaker 2: It's easy to be like I like her though, but 1092 00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:32,560 Speaker 2: I really like it. 1093 00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:35,600 Speaker 3: Like wait, what am I I ain't got no vision, 1094 00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:37,759 Speaker 3: I ain't got no vision. I ain't think about the 1095 00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:38,640 Speaker 3: next two years. 1096 00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:41,600 Speaker 1: You have very intentional when it's time to be in 1097 00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:44,120 Speaker 1: that space, because you can break somebody's heart because it 1098 00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:49,200 Speaker 1: be likeake like me, like this the one. It like 1099 00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:51,719 Speaker 1: he just broke up because you wasn't ready. And I'm like, now, 1100 00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:55,239 Speaker 1: Jake Aladdin broke broke my heart and you don't want that. 1101 00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:57,880 Speaker 3: I don't want to track record. 1102 00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:00,759 Speaker 1: No, you know, so you're doing the right thing. I'm 1103 00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:03,640 Speaker 1: proud of you. So I I know you. We said 1104 00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:05,960 Speaker 1: when people ask you, what's next, So I'm not gonna 1105 00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:08,120 Speaker 1: ask you what's next? But what are you looking forward 1106 00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:09,680 Speaker 1: to for the future? 1107 00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:15,359 Speaker 3: For you? Right now? I'm just looking forward to just uh, 1108 00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:18,960 Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to creating more on the on the 1109 00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:22,520 Speaker 3: film side, Like I've been trying to practice more writing. Okay, sure, 1110 00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:25,400 Speaker 3: taking more time and I'll talk to writers and I 1111 00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:28,239 Speaker 3: was like, how long did you, uh, how long did 1112 00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:30,120 Speaker 3: it take for you to write the script all this? Oh? Man, 1113 00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:33,759 Speaker 3: like six years? Oh yeah, you think you could go 1114 00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:35,759 Speaker 3: in writing in your office and write a script in 1115 00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:37,319 Speaker 3: number thirty days? Yeah? You know. 1116 00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:40,560 Speaker 1: No, I've been writing a script since two two thousand, 1117 00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:41,840 Speaker 1: when was COVID twenty twenty? 1118 00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:46,000 Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, and uh uh a a great writer mentor 1119 00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:47,440 Speaker 3: of mind. He was like, you can't write small. 1120 00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:48,799 Speaker 1: No, that's so true. 1121 00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:50,560 Speaker 3: You can't write small. He said, it's hard to make 1122 00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:53,040 Speaker 3: it small. So I got some. I got some one sheets. 1123 00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:56,239 Speaker 3: He like M he said, one sheets are cool, but 1124 00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:58,879 Speaker 3: it's hard to write small. You gotta you gotta take 1125 00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:02,680 Speaker 3: that two year, take two three years. Yes, every day 1126 00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:05,040 Speaker 3: and add something to the story and the next thing 1127 00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:08,040 Speaker 3: you know, Yeah, you have one hundred pages. Yeah, on 1128 00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:10,600 Speaker 3: twenty pages, you know what I mean? So, uh, just 1129 00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:12,879 Speaker 3: being patient with myself journaling more. 1130 00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:16,160 Speaker 1: We'll have to get you a journal, A journal I got. 1131 00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:18,520 Speaker 3: I got some. I just I'd be like if you 1132 00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:20,560 Speaker 3: look at the days of my journey, it's like it'd 1133 00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:22,919 Speaker 3: be like months out between day. Yeah. 1134 00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:26,600 Speaker 1: It's really hard, especially when you're busy. It's hard to 1135 00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:28,759 Speaker 1: like wake up or in the evening to figure out 1136 00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:30,600 Speaker 1: the time to sit down and really journal. 1137 00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:31,680 Speaker 2: You have to be very It's something you. 1138 00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:33,120 Speaker 3: Have to be intentional with absolutely. 1139 00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:35,000 Speaker 1: So I understand, trust me, because there's times in my 1140 00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:37,760 Speaker 1: life where I'm like, ooh, that was January. It's March. 1141 00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:39,960 Speaker 2: So like, I definitely get it. 1142 00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:42,800 Speaker 1: I'm more intentional about it now, Yeah, because it's therapeutic 1143 00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:45,560 Speaker 1: for me and it's I I write my prayers out. Yeah, 1144 00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:47,239 Speaker 1: so like I talk to God about like what I'm 1145 00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:49,040 Speaker 1: grateful for, what I'm going through what I want him 1146 00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:51,560 Speaker 1: to like guide me through and all the type of things. 1147 00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:53,759 Speaker 1: So it's more of like my time with God. Okay, 1148 00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:55,839 Speaker 1: where I write it out. But yeah, we'll make sure 1149 00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:56,279 Speaker 1: we get you. 1150 00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:58,719 Speaker 3: A journey I need. We always need, We always need 1151 00:53:58,760 --> 00:53:59,200 Speaker 3: them journeys. 1152 00:53:59,239 --> 00:53:59,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, like I have. 1153 00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:02,040 Speaker 3: I had like three or four over the past couple 1154 00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:04,520 Speaker 3: of years. Yeah, like you had some information in there. 1155 00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:08,840 Speaker 3: You got some information, Yeah, and you just writing down goals. 1156 00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:11,000 Speaker 3: And I mean a lot of my goals are like 1157 00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:14,840 Speaker 3: financial and real estate goals. I've been into that, like 1158 00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:17,600 Speaker 3: i've been. Only only thing I've been buying is like 1159 00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:21,000 Speaker 3: turnkey properties and then like properties that already have tenets 1160 00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:23,760 Speaker 3: in there and it's cash already smart don't really need 1161 00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:28,040 Speaker 3: much work. But I want to get into flipping flipping 1162 00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:31,799 Speaker 3: properties in the next then the next six months, you 1163 00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:33,759 Speaker 3: know what I mean. So I'm just like diving into that. 1164 00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:36,640 Speaker 3: And then also just doing a little traveling too. Yeah. 1165 00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:39,040 Speaker 3: You know this this is the longest break we've had 1166 00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:41,600 Speaker 3: in between seasons, So I want to do a little traveling, 1167 00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:45,640 Speaker 3: see the world bit, you know, and get some perspective, 1168 00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:48,360 Speaker 3: you know, and get some inspiration. Because I am a 1169 00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:51,880 Speaker 3: home body. I am like Chicago, Atlanta and Chicago Atlanta, 1170 00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:55,760 Speaker 3: maybe LA, maybe New York. But to get out the states, 1171 00:54:55,840 --> 00:55:01,399 Speaker 3: absolutely try some different food, you know, close for language, 1172 00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:03,000 Speaker 3: all the things. 1173 00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:06,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's getting enough. You'll come back inspired, I promise. 1174 00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:13,399 Speaker 2: You, y'all. 1175 00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:21,759 Speaker 1: I thought I was different. Now I love that. So 1176 00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:25,120 Speaker 1: we do what's called positive outcomes, where our listeners write 1177 00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:27,640 Speaker 1: in and we give them advice. So I'm gonna read 1178 00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:30,640 Speaker 1: this letter from I don't want to butcher your name. 1179 00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:34,399 Speaker 1: I hope I'm saying this right. And Elijah williams hey 1180 00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:38,080 Speaker 1: and Elijah and Elijah says, I recently just left a 1181 00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:41,440 Speaker 1: relationship I was in for nine years, the only relationship 1182 00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:44,399 Speaker 1: I've been in, the only person I've ever been with. 1183 00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:48,200 Speaker 1: I have three children by him. As I started seeking God, 1184 00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:52,000 Speaker 1: we became further apart. I didn't quite understand until one night. 1185 00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:54,760 Speaker 1: We had a big argument and I prayed for clarity, 1186 00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:56,960 Speaker 1: and it was as if God himself was in my 1187 00:55:57,040 --> 00:56:00,479 Speaker 1: face and said, he can't go the wi she wants 1188 00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:01,799 Speaker 1: what it wants, that. 1189 00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:02,920 Speaker 2: It when it's comfortable. 1190 00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:06,719 Speaker 1: But the spirit says, no, how do you handle flesh 1191 00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:07,480 Speaker 1: and spirit? 1192 00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:10,279 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, no, I just so I'm not even 1193 00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:15,160 Speaker 3: knowing I'm experiencing nothing out with it. But what I 1194 00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:19,600 Speaker 3: do know about what I've read is a man leads 1195 00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:23,840 Speaker 3: his mother and his father and become one flesh with 1196 00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:24,400 Speaker 3: his wife. 1197 00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:25,359 Speaker 1: Mm. 1198 00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:28,440 Speaker 3: And I don't that. That don't sound easy to me. 1199 00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:30,360 Speaker 3: So I don't think it was ever meant to be 1200 00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:35,320 Speaker 3: easy unless it was like something that's that's truly detrimental. Yeah, 1201 00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:37,640 Speaker 3: in the relationship, I say, fight for it, and he 1202 00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:39,040 Speaker 3: got a family. Man. 1203 00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:41,480 Speaker 1: I think her biggest thing is that she's seeking a 1204 00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:44,640 Speaker 1: relationship with God and the God's pulling apart from her. 1205 00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:45,520 Speaker 3: Mm. 1206 00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:47,960 Speaker 1: So it's I haven't had that situation, but I have 1207 00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:48,879 Speaker 1: had a situation where I. 1208 00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:50,480 Speaker 3: Had missed that part. I wouldn't listen. 1209 00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:53,040 Speaker 2: Okay, I think that was her biggest thing. 1210 00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:55,520 Speaker 1: But for me, I've been in a situation where literally 1211 00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:57,440 Speaker 1: God said in the car and was like I heard 1212 00:56:57,480 --> 00:56:57,880 Speaker 1: the same thing. 1213 00:56:57,920 --> 00:56:59,920 Speaker 2: He can't go cause I was fighting for it. I 1214 00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:02,400 Speaker 2: was like, I wanted he was a narcissist, manipulative. 1215 00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:06,120 Speaker 3: I would go as like next journey of your life. 1216 00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:10,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, I see, yeah, but you like the flesh ones 1217 00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:12,640 Speaker 1: what it's like. But I love this man and this woman, 1218 00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:14,920 Speaker 1: and it's like you see all the things that it 1219 00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:16,480 Speaker 1: could be in your mind, and God was like, no, 1220 00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:17,760 Speaker 1: that ain't what I have for you. And the reason 1221 00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:19,800 Speaker 1: why you still stuck is because you haven't let this go, 1222 00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:22,439 Speaker 1: so I can't take you to the next level. I've 1223 00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:25,840 Speaker 1: had that situation and then even where I am now, 1224 00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:29,040 Speaker 1: God has been He's I've talked about it on another podcast, 1225 00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:31,480 Speaker 1: but God convicted me on sex. So I'm really my 1226 00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:34,000 Speaker 1: Bible and like I'm reading it's like sexual morality. 1227 00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:35,680 Speaker 2: I'm like, it's like the pain. The words are like. 1228 00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:50,560 Speaker 3: I'm like, list, like I've seen you last night. You right, 1229 00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:53,200 Speaker 3: I wouldn't. I wouldn't even supposed to be doing that. 1230 00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:54,200 Speaker 3: I wouldn't supposed to be. 1231 00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:57,120 Speaker 1: I told a friend of mine because I gave it up. 1232 00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:59,120 Speaker 1: I gave it sex, and I had the hardest time 1233 00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:02,200 Speaker 1: telling the guys. And I was like, he's gonna be like, nah, 1234 00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:04,480 Speaker 1: I'm good on that, and he was like, no, this 1235 00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:07,080 Speaker 1: is what guy con beeted you on, Like I'm with it. 1236 00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:11,800 Speaker 1: But I remember telling my friend. As I went even further, 1237 00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:13,520 Speaker 1: I threw my vibrator out and all the things. I 1238 00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:15,240 Speaker 1: was like, I'm really gonna do this because I can't 1239 00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:18,520 Speaker 1: like be halfway in and halfway out. And I remember 1240 00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:20,440 Speaker 1: telling her. I was like, there was a bad storm, 1241 00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:22,800 Speaker 1: like a few weeks ago, and I was like, I 1242 00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:23,200 Speaker 1: woke up. 1243 00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:25,080 Speaker 2: The thunder was so loud. I was like, is that guy? 1244 00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:26,800 Speaker 2: Like I thought he was bad. 1245 00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:29,120 Speaker 1: I went to my closet and earth and I was like, Lord, 1246 00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:29,640 Speaker 1: I was like, if. 1247 00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:32,280 Speaker 3: You come and come on them, stomach feelings don't like 1248 00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:35,280 Speaker 3: I've realized, like you can't ignore it. Don't ignore it, 1249 00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:38,360 Speaker 3: you know, And anytime I have it's like I knew it. 1250 00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:39,200 Speaker 3: I knew it. 1251 00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:41,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, you felt it. 1252 00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:45,000 Speaker 3: It's like sometimes you feel like it's you crazy. You 1253 00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:48,880 Speaker 3: feel like I'm being crazy, I'm tripping, I'm overthinking, You're not. Nah, 1254 00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:50,919 Speaker 3: there was nothing point. 1255 00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:52,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I told my girlfriend. 1256 00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:54,760 Speaker 1: I said, I said when I thought he was here, 1257 00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:56,400 Speaker 1: I was like, I really thought God that came back 1258 00:58:56,400 --> 00:58:59,560 Speaker 1: and I said, and I thought, oh, if God come 1259 00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:01,480 Speaker 1: back to right now. Do I want to be something 1260 00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:07,320 Speaker 1: with my legs cock back? Like, oh, you're thinking about she. 1261 00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:08,600 Speaker 2: Said, Damn, I ain't thinking about like that. 1262 00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:10,360 Speaker 1: I was like, think about it. 1263 00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:12,320 Speaker 2: I said, whatever you're doing that, you aint got no 1264 00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:14,520 Speaker 2: business doing. I was like, I want to. 1265 00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:18,120 Speaker 3: Be I want to be in the word like I knew. 1266 00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:24,480 Speaker 1: I knew York, I knew my daddy. 1267 00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:26,000 Speaker 2: I told my dad he was done. 1268 00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:28,160 Speaker 1: He said, girl, he said, you're gonna be gone before 1269 00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:30,280 Speaker 1: he even know you, like before you're gonna caught up 1270 00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:32,720 Speaker 1: in the raster. I was like, I said, well, whatever 1271 00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:34,200 Speaker 1: I'm doing, I want to be caught up doing the 1272 00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:35,760 Speaker 1: right thing. I want to be getting gether there like 1273 00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:36,840 Speaker 1: but naked, Like. 1274 00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:38,480 Speaker 3: What was you do? You should want to be in 1275 00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:39,760 Speaker 3: the Covenant, right, You're. 1276 00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:40,120 Speaker 2: In the Covenant. 1277 00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:44,920 Speaker 3: It's like, you know what I mean, we under your blood. 1278 00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:46,480 Speaker 1: It's cool. 1279 00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:48,640 Speaker 3: Yes, you're single, just outside. 1280 00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:56,800 Speaker 6: Man, I knew, I knew I was supposed to be 1281 00:59:56,880 --> 01:00:01,080 Speaker 6: home in my words watch the service, being alone and 1282 01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:02,760 Speaker 6: sip of tea. 1283 01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:05,600 Speaker 1: Yes, son, Elijah, I would tell you just to continue 1284 01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:08,320 Speaker 1: to work on your relationship with God, and anything that 1285 01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:10,720 Speaker 1: is pushing you away from that or hindering from that, 1286 01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:12,840 Speaker 1: you have to separate from it. So we're praying for 1287 01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:13,520 Speaker 1: you girls. 1288 01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:16,440 Speaker 3: Right, and forget what I said, because I went, I 1289 01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:19,720 Speaker 3: ain't got no business even speaking of that. 1290 01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:27,160 Speaker 1: So we are going to end the show with a 1291 01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:30,880 Speaker 1: rapid fire game, all right. So every word or phrase 1292 01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:32,960 Speaker 1: that I say, you're gonna tell me the first thing 1293 01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:33,720 Speaker 1: that comes to mind. 1294 01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:37,760 Speaker 3: Okay, you're ready, wait, wait say time. 1295 01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:44,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say. I'm gonna give you some phrases and 1296 01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:47,000 Speaker 1: whatever I say, I want you to say the first 1297 01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:48,840 Speaker 1: thing that comes to mind. It can be like it 1298 01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:50,440 Speaker 1: doesn't have to be just one word. You can like 1299 01:00:50,600 --> 01:00:53,200 Speaker 1: whatever comes to mind, you can say it. The first 1300 01:00:53,240 --> 01:00:58,880 Speaker 1: one is the shy, consistent, all right, the perfect woman 1301 01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:04,240 Speaker 1: out there self care. 1302 01:01:07,560 --> 01:01:11,600 Speaker 3: Mm therapy. I love that. Milwaukee hometown. 1303 01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:32,920 Speaker 5: Yes, growth, uncomfortable mm was it mm. 1304 01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:32,400 Speaker 3: Ooh an everyday learning curve. I don't never feel like 1305 01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:32,959 Speaker 3: I'm there. 1306 01:01:33,720 --> 01:01:37,600 Speaker 1: I love that last one purpose purpose. 1307 01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:47,880 Speaker 3: Just divine. Almost don't even understand it, Like I'm still 1308 01:01:47,880 --> 01:01:52,640 Speaker 3: trying to figure it out. Like you think it's because 1309 01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:55,920 Speaker 3: you're doing your music. You think it's because it's doing 1310 01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:58,520 Speaker 3: your acting, but it's like it's something deeper. You know 1311 01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:01,760 Speaker 3: it's deeper, and you just you still we're still trying 1312 01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:05,080 Speaker 3: to figure it out, right, like oh oh, that was 1313 01:02:05,080 --> 01:02:07,440 Speaker 3: the purpose for me being here, That was a purpose 1314 01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:09,439 Speaker 3: for me working with this actress. That was the real 1315 01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:11,400 Speaker 3: purpose for me working with this actor. Yes, like we're 1316 01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:13,800 Speaker 3: doing this movie is gonna come out, but that conversation 1317 01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:17,919 Speaker 3: I had with but the person was like, that was it, 1318 01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:21,360 Speaker 3: And that's the mysteriousness of the creator. 1319 01:02:21,640 --> 01:02:24,120 Speaker 1: I love that. I love that. Take a Thank you 1320 01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:29,240 Speaker 1: so much. I really enjoyed talking to you. They are 1321 01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:32,320 Speaker 1: gonna gotta love it. Thank you so much. 1322 01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:32,800 Speaker 3: Thank you. 1323 01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:41,000 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. My episode with Jacob Lattimore was absolutely amazing. 1324 01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:43,480 Speaker 1: He has been in the game for so long. I 1325 01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:45,720 Speaker 1: took so many gyms and I know you guys did too. 1326 01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:47,800 Speaker 1: One of the things that stood out the most to 1327 01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:51,480 Speaker 1: me were when we talked about survivors and Morris and 1328 01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:54,080 Speaker 1: who can come with you and who can't. And I 1329 01:02:54,120 --> 01:02:56,800 Speaker 1: feel like that is so prominent and so many people's walks. 1330 01:02:56,880 --> 01:02:59,160 Speaker 1: Is knowing when it's time to let certain people go 1331 01:02:59,560 --> 01:03:02,160 Speaker 1: and the people we should hold on to that understand 1332 01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:03,200 Speaker 1: where you're going. 1333 01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:10,040 Speaker 2: And your walk. That was an incredible. 1334 01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:13,320 Speaker 1: Conversation with Jacob. His journey and personal growth is inspiring 1335 01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:16,400 Speaker 1: and I hope you're walking away as motivated as I am. 1336 01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:19,160 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for tuning into this episode. If 1337 01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:21,439 Speaker 1: you want to write into our Positive Outcomes listener letter, 1338 01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:23,520 Speaker 1: you can send us an email to keep it positive 1339 01:03:23,560 --> 01:03:26,480 Speaker 1: Sweetie at gmail dot com. You can follow me on 1340 01:03:26,520 --> 01:03:28,840 Speaker 1: all platforms that love Chris Orinee and you can follow 1341 01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:32,480 Speaker 1: the show at Keep It Positive, Sweetie. Guys, don't forget 1342 01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:35,560 Speaker 1: to subscribe, leave a review and share this episode with 1343 01:03:35,640 --> 01:03:39,000 Speaker 1: someone who can use some positive energy. And remember, no 1344 01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:42,480 Speaker 1: matter what life throws it, you stay focused, stay confident, 1345 01:03:42,880 --> 01:03:44,240 Speaker 1: and always keep it positive. 1346 01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:44,600 Speaker 3: Sweetie. 1347 01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:45,880 Speaker 1: I'll see you guys next time. 1348 01:04:01,680 --> 01:04:04,320 Speaker 3: Kings posting