WEBVTT - Trigger Happy 0:00:00.640 --> 0:00:05.280 Ka Boom. If you thought four hours a day, minutes 0:00:05.320 --> 0:00:09.080 a week was enough, think again. He's the last remnants 0:00:09.119 --> 0:00:12.400 of the old republic, a sole fashion of fairness. He 0:00:12.480 --> 0:00:15.440 treats crackheads in the ghetto cutter the same as the 0:00:15.560 --> 0:00:19.560 rich pill poppers in the penthouse, to clearing house of 0:00:19.560 --> 0:00:23.360 hot takes, break free for something special. The Fifth Hour 0:00:23.520 --> 0:00:28.040 with Ben Maller starts right now. That it does, and 0:00:28.120 --> 0:00:33.479 we are in the air everywhere. The vast power of 0:00:33.520 --> 0:00:37.400 the I Heart podcast network, the global reach of podcasting 0:00:37.520 --> 0:00:40.519 on demand now on demand, that's the big advantage that 0:00:40.560 --> 0:00:42.520 we have right with podcasting on like the radio show, 0:00:42.560 --> 0:00:45.400 although now that's a podcast also, but you can you 0:00:45.440 --> 0:00:49.240 can hear this whenever the hell you want, whatever you're doing, 0:00:49.880 --> 0:00:52.120 and whether you want to save it for late at night, 0:00:52.440 --> 0:00:54.200 make it like the radio show, or if you want 0:00:54.200 --> 0:00:56.920 to listen during the day, which is very odd, but 0:00:57.120 --> 0:00:59.640 welcome to the podcast and I'm glad you have decided 0:00:59.680 --> 0:01:02.160 to spend some time this weekend with us. And the 0:01:02.240 --> 0:01:06.560 slogan continues to be because four hours on enough, and 0:01:06.600 --> 0:01:08.480 we do this eight days a week. It started as 0:01:08.520 --> 0:01:11.679 a one day a week podcast, a spin off of 0:01:11.720 --> 0:01:16.160 the radio show and it has morphed into something else, 0:01:16.319 --> 0:01:19.320 and the numbers keep going up. And I got an 0:01:19.319 --> 0:01:21.039 email from a guy this week said, hey, are you 0:01:21.240 --> 0:01:23.600 once the coronavirus stuff goes away, are you gonna go 0:01:23.680 --> 0:01:26.039 back to doing it one day a week? I said, not. 0:01:26.160 --> 0:01:29.080 If the numbers keep staying where they are, We'll keep 0:01:29.080 --> 0:01:31.440 doing it if you keep downloading it. Now, if this 0:01:31.480 --> 0:01:34.560 gets done and suddenly we lose half the audience, funk that. 0:01:34.640 --> 0:01:36.840 I'm not gonna do it every day. But if if 0:01:36.840 --> 0:01:39.600 the numbers are good, then we'll keep it going here 0:01:39.640 --> 0:01:41.400 because if there's there's a market for it. If there's 0:01:41.400 --> 0:01:43.880 not a market for it, because we gotta keep doing 0:01:43.880 --> 0:01:48.280 this until the advertising market comes back. All right. We're 0:01:48.280 --> 0:01:51.160 in the advertising business, so I mean let you in 0:01:51.240 --> 0:01:54.640 behind the curtain here. So we need that to come back, obviously, 0:01:54.640 --> 0:01:56.640 and then we can actually reap the benefit of this. 0:01:56.720 --> 0:01:58.760 But right now we're not. But just fine, which is fine. 0:01:59.160 --> 0:02:01.960 So uh away as always, for better or worse. Joined 0:02:01.960 --> 0:02:04.280 by the man effectually known in the hallways and the 0:02:04.320 --> 0:02:08.400 byways of Fox Sports Radio as gag On David Gascon. 0:02:08.720 --> 0:02:11.880 I'm I'm encouraged to be here again today. It's it's 0:02:11.919 --> 0:02:15.760 a brand new day. I will I will admit I've 0:02:15.800 --> 0:02:20.360 been watching a lot more stuff on on YouTube and uh, 0:02:20.520 --> 0:02:24.960 because we we've only had Korean baseball. I love Korean baseball. 0:02:24.960 --> 0:02:27.799 I'm all down with the Koreans. I can't get enough. Man. 0:02:27.840 --> 0:02:30.000 I'm good with the bat flips. I don't know how 0:02:30.040 --> 0:02:32.720 many people are against it here in the United States, 0:02:32.800 --> 0:02:35.799 but as as long as a picture can throw up 0:02:35.800 --> 0:02:38.720 and end, I am perfectly flat fine with bat flips. 0:02:38.800 --> 0:02:41.520 I don't care who the hell it is Pweag Bautista. 0:02:41.919 --> 0:02:43.280 I don't give a ship who it is. If you 0:02:43.280 --> 0:02:44.959 can bat flip, you can take a pitch up and 0:02:45.120 --> 0:02:47.959 end too, So no, I agree. Speaking of Pueeg, isn't 0:02:47.960 --> 0:02:50.000 he supposed to sign with the Giants? Isn't that Has 0:02:50.000 --> 0:02:51.200 he signed with him? Don't know if he sign with 0:02:51.240 --> 0:02:52.560 him yet. They said he was gonna sign with him, 0:02:52.560 --> 0:02:55.960 which will create one of the great ironies of baseball 0:02:56.120 --> 0:02:58.600 when this happens, and you'll have Madison Bumgardner in a 0:02:58.680 --> 0:03:03.639 Diamondbacks uniform going at Wegan the Giant's uniform, which will 0:03:03.639 --> 0:03:07.320 be should be pretty amusing, uh and all that. So 0:03:08.000 --> 0:03:10.440 um anyway, not, we don't want to waste me. Let's 0:03:10.480 --> 0:03:12.720 just get into it right. So on the podcast, I 0:03:12.760 --> 0:03:14.600 don't know how to how should I title this one? 0:03:14.639 --> 0:03:19.120 Guess g the I don't know you because right now 0:03:19.240 --> 0:03:24.000 you're in a ballerina slash stunt mode right now where 0:03:24.000 --> 0:03:27.560 you're tiptoeing the sidelines, but you're also on a balance 0:03:27.680 --> 0:03:30.239 beam and like you're way up. You're not even a 0:03:30.720 --> 0:03:33.480 right you were like way up there. I am doing 0:03:33.560 --> 0:03:35.960 a tight rope walk without a safety net, is what 0:03:36.000 --> 0:03:39.400 I'm I am up. I'm tiptoeing around land mines um 0:03:39.480 --> 0:03:41.800 and of course they're you're holding the football like Tiki 0:03:41.880 --> 0:03:44.480 Barber used to with a spumbling propmse. That's you're like 0:03:44.520 --> 0:03:48.040 your collar bones. So you were you're way up there. Yeah, 0:03:48.240 --> 0:03:50.400 I just got a vent and I feel like I 0:03:50.440 --> 0:03:53.920 need to do that. It's therapeutic, so better with me. 0:03:53.960 --> 0:03:56.080 And if you're annoyed by it or you're offended by it, 0:03:56.560 --> 0:03:58.960 then you know, go away. I don't know, it's not 0:03:59.040 --> 0:04:01.000 for you. You know, I'll be like Michael Jordan. If 0:04:01.040 --> 0:04:03.240 you like me, great, If not, go fund yourself. That's 0:04:03.320 --> 0:04:07.400 essentially what Jordan's said, Yeah, exactly, minus the billions of 0:04:07.440 --> 0:04:10.280 dollars from Nike that I do not have and and 0:04:10.360 --> 0:04:13.320 all that. So if you've been listening to the radio show, 0:04:13.360 --> 0:04:15.400 and this is a spinoff of the radio show, and 0:04:15.440 --> 0:04:17.200 so you and we will get to study this by 0:04:17.200 --> 0:04:19.160 the way, and pop quiz and all that stuff. So 0:04:19.200 --> 0:04:21.159 if you're if you don't want to hear my diet tribe, 0:04:21.200 --> 0:04:23.120 then you can just fast forward through this nonsense. That's 0:04:23.160 --> 0:04:25.080 an advantage you have with the podcast. So on the 0:04:25.160 --> 0:04:27.599 radio show, over the last couple of days, and really 0:04:27.640 --> 0:04:31.480 the last couple of months, I have been very optimistic, uh, 0:04:31.520 --> 0:04:34.159 and to the much to the dismay of many people, 0:04:34.400 --> 0:04:36.240 I've lived up to mind one of my nicknames, Benny 0:04:36.320 --> 0:04:39.080 bright Side, and this has offended a lot of people. 0:04:39.200 --> 0:04:41.719 That I believe that we will be able to open 0:04:41.800 --> 0:04:44.440 up society and have things start to return to normal, 0:04:44.480 --> 0:04:47.720 not overnight. It's gonna take time to work back up 0:04:47.760 --> 0:04:50.760 to a certain point. Um, but we're not gonna always 0:04:50.800 --> 0:04:53.440 live in a world with masks and gloves and all 0:04:53.480 --> 0:04:55.800 this stuff. That's just not the way it is. And 0:04:55.880 --> 0:04:58.920 so let me do a sports show plausibly without sports. 0:04:58.920 --> 0:05:01.279 And so I've talked a lot about baseball coming back 0:05:01.279 --> 0:05:05.160 in the NBA and all the different sports leagues and 0:05:05.279 --> 0:05:07.560 I have been fully as supportive of this, and I've 0:05:07.600 --> 0:05:09.960 advised them just do it now. Finally, it sounds like 0:05:09.960 --> 0:05:11.960 baseball is going to just do it and take that 0:05:12.080 --> 0:05:16.440 Nike slogan and go forward. So every time, hand to God, 0:05:16.560 --> 0:05:18.839 every time I've done a little rant about how we 0:05:18.880 --> 0:05:21.040 need our sports, we should have sports back, open up 0:05:21.080 --> 0:05:25.080 society where you know, the economy and all that. I 0:05:25.160 --> 0:05:28.560 get so much pushback from certain people, and it's not 0:05:28.600 --> 0:05:31.599 always the same people. You know, fuck you, how do 0:05:31.680 --> 0:05:34.680 you have a radio show? You're bad for people. You know, 0:05:34.839 --> 0:05:38.040 you're poisoning people, You're the problem, You're gonna kill people. 0:05:38.200 --> 0:05:41.120 You know all this stuff, and you know a lot 0:05:41.120 --> 0:05:43.159 of it I just brush off. It goes with the territory, 0:05:43.240 --> 0:05:44.720 right so you know, when you buy the real estate, 0:05:44.760 --> 0:05:46.240 that goes with the real estate. You gotta do with it. 0:05:46.880 --> 0:05:51.279 But something, and this came from listener Doug. We actually 0:05:51.360 --> 0:05:54.640 mentioned Doug in in last weekend's podcast. Uh and so, 0:05:55.360 --> 0:05:57.720 so Doug's a big fan and he found this story 0:05:58.560 --> 0:06:01.520 and it's it's so n ailed exactly what I'm dealing 0:06:01.560 --> 0:06:04.039 with right now. And it's not just me, but a 0:06:04.040 --> 0:06:06.880 lot of people who are on my side of the 0:06:07.160 --> 0:06:09.200 you know, if you're picking camps here that think we 0:06:09.200 --> 0:06:12.960 should open things up and and and try to manage, 0:06:13.120 --> 0:06:17.360 mitigate risk, but go on with life. Right. So, uh, 0:06:17.480 --> 0:06:19.080 Doug sends me the stories from the pages of the 0:06:19.120 --> 0:06:23.320 Wall Street Journal the other day, and fortunately he I 0:06:23.320 --> 0:06:25.960 don't want to get Dug in trouble, But no I don't. 0:06:26.000 --> 0:06:27.640 I don't have I don't. You have to pay. It's 0:06:27.640 --> 0:06:30.000 behind a paywall at the Wall Street Journal, and I 0:06:30.000 --> 0:06:32.120 don't pay for the Wall Street Journal. So the only 0:06:32.160 --> 0:06:34.440 way I could see this story is if Doug had 0:06:34.560 --> 0:06:38.159 very conveniently taking a picture of it and send it 0:06:38.200 --> 0:06:40.120 to me. Um, you know what I'm saying. So he 0:06:40.360 --> 0:06:42.320 whatever copied or whatever he did. I don't know how 0:06:42.320 --> 0:06:43.440 he did it. I don't want to get into it. 0:06:43.440 --> 0:06:45.040 I want to give specifics. I want Dog to get 0:06:45.040 --> 0:06:47.159 in trouble. I'm sure they'll come arrest him. But anyway, 0:06:47.160 --> 0:06:49.200 he sent me the story and the headline on this 0:06:49.279 --> 0:06:53.599 is the coronavirus and Project Fear. And I'm not gonna 0:06:53.600 --> 0:06:55.640 give you the whole you know, song and dance. I'm 0:06:55.640 --> 0:06:57.599 not gonna read the whole thing because it's not books 0:06:57.600 --> 0:06:59.919 on tape, it's a podcast, but there's a couple of 0:07:00.000 --> 0:07:03.640 paragraphs that really resonated with me, and it it It 0:07:03.920 --> 0:07:07.359 is an example of what I've experienced, and many of 0:07:07.400 --> 0:07:09.480 my colleagues and radio that I talked to around the 0:07:09.480 --> 0:07:12.720 country that have also taken a positive stance have experience. 0:07:13.120 --> 0:07:16.520 Now the story is Project Fear three point oh, and 0:07:16.600 --> 0:07:21.240 that relates to policy makers letting themselves be guide. I'm 0:07:21.280 --> 0:07:25.080 reading this from the Wall Street Journal story by Joseph C. Sternberg. 0:07:25.120 --> 0:07:27.560 I believe it's the guy that wrote this. So policy 0:07:27.600 --> 0:07:30.920 makers are letting themselves be guided less by the science, 0:07:31.400 --> 0:07:36.520 which means preliminary and conflicting, than by a perceived public 0:07:36.600 --> 0:07:41.040 clamor for draconian response to the pandemic. That's that line 0:07:41.120 --> 0:07:43.640 right there, draconian response to the pandemic that then the 0:07:43.680 --> 0:07:48.200 public demanding this Now, he says, the important word here 0:07:48.280 --> 0:07:53.040 is perceived, since whatever outcry exists has been filtered through 0:07:53.360 --> 0:07:58.120 a media eager to hype the fear factor. And the 0:07:58.160 --> 0:08:00.600 story goes on to say the longer the crisis drags on, 0:08:01.480 --> 0:08:05.600 the less natural that fear seems. And this next part 0:08:05.680 --> 0:08:09.200 is very important. We now know the virus is not 0:08:09.360 --> 0:08:13.800 nearly as deadly as early data from China suggested, doctors 0:08:13.800 --> 0:08:17.760 are developing more efficient treatment protocols, and some drugs have 0:08:17.800 --> 0:08:23.800 shown early promise, deepening research into which traits make people 0:08:23.920 --> 0:08:27.080 more vulnerable for the disease. Right, if you have certain 0:08:27.160 --> 0:08:31.080 pre existing conditions, you are more vulnerable, and you should 0:08:31.160 --> 0:08:35.240 then be uh, continued to quarantine, which is what I've 0:08:35.240 --> 0:08:38.760 always said. Um, And so then this this other line 0:08:38.800 --> 0:08:41.679 also resonated. He said, all of this should or all 0:08:41.679 --> 0:08:46.400 of that should trigger a modulation of the fear surrounding 0:08:46.440 --> 0:08:50.880 the coronavirus, not a denial of the severity of the disease. Right, 0:08:51.040 --> 0:08:56.320 It's exactly my position, but an understanding that new insights, 0:08:56.360 --> 0:08:59.280 you know, the insistent and understanding the new insights bring 0:08:59.360 --> 0:09:02.360 the prosper act of new ways to balance risk while 0:09:02.400 --> 0:09:09.839 reopening the economy. But many people cannot embrace this, you know. 0:09:09.880 --> 0:09:12.200 It's it's it goes back to a line I've used 0:09:12.240 --> 0:09:15.320 many times about other things, and it it's it really 0:09:15.320 --> 0:09:18.640 applies here. When the legend becomes the fact, you go 0:09:18.720 --> 0:09:22.360 with the legend and once people make their mind up. 0:09:22.440 --> 0:09:24.640 That's the other thing, you know, you talk about. I've 0:09:24.679 --> 0:09:27.440 read books on marketing and things like that, and I'm 0:09:27.559 --> 0:09:31.840 fascinated with infomercials and all the different tricks and commotion 0:09:32.040 --> 0:09:37.319 pageantry they use and all that stuff. But the gist 0:09:37.360 --> 0:09:40.840 of it is, once somebody makes their mind up, they 0:09:40.920 --> 0:09:44.040 don't want to change their mind. They don't. And so 0:09:44.200 --> 0:09:46.320 people made their mind up a lot. And I'm not 0:09:46.520 --> 0:09:47.880 I don't know if I won't even say a lot 0:09:47.880 --> 0:09:50.080 of people. But the people that have been very upset 0:09:50.120 --> 0:09:54.320 with me and throwing molotov cocktails my direction via email 0:09:54.320 --> 0:09:58.439 and what not, digital molotov cocktails. Fortunately, um, these people, 0:09:58.600 --> 0:10:00.800 my belief is that they just aid their mind up 0:10:01.480 --> 0:10:05.280 and they do not want to accept any kind of 0:10:05.400 --> 0:10:11.240 nuance that the field has changed. Shall we say that 0:10:11.320 --> 0:10:14.840 the field has changed, that the information has been adjusted, 0:10:14.880 --> 0:10:18.440 as always happens in any story, whether it's a pandemic. 0:10:18.679 --> 0:10:22.280 I I was on the radio in September eleven, and 0:10:22.400 --> 0:10:25.760 we shifted into doing news after nine eleven happened. And 0:10:26.120 --> 0:10:29.200 some of those early reports about nine eleven were complete bullshit. 0:10:30.360 --> 0:10:33.079 But some people form their opinion based on those early 0:10:33.160 --> 0:10:36.520 reports and never changed their opinion. It's like in the 0:10:36.600 --> 0:10:41.520 in the marketing game. In every marketing book, excuse me, 0:10:41.880 --> 0:10:45.480 every marketing book says the same thing, that it's all 0:10:45.520 --> 0:10:49.880 about getting into the mind first, because once a mind 0:10:50.000 --> 0:10:56.200 is made up, it very rarely changes, it very rarely changes. 0:10:56.520 --> 0:10:59.760 And it's an odd thing that we're all. I'm more 0:10:59.760 --> 0:11:02.160 still be the most because I'm a tourist, but everyone 0:11:02.280 --> 0:11:06.520 stubborn in one way or another. So that's my rank. Guescon, 0:11:06.559 --> 0:11:07.720 I don't know. You want to you want to add 0:11:07.760 --> 0:11:09.360 anything to the rand here? You want to you want 0:11:09.400 --> 0:11:11.240 to step to the dark side, over to the third 0:11:11.320 --> 0:11:13.560 rail and do tap dance over here. Be sure to 0:11:13.600 --> 0:11:16.360 catch live editions of The Ben Meller Show weekdays at 0:11:16.360 --> 0:11:20.200 two am Eastern eleven pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio 0:11:20.360 --> 0:11:24.839 and the I Heart Radio app. Well, it's dangerous, I will, 0:11:26.600 --> 0:11:29.600 but we have friends and we have family, and we 0:11:29.679 --> 0:11:33.920 have listeners that are for whatever you want to call. 0:11:34.040 --> 0:11:36.880 Because it's a it's a blind enemy. But we have 0:11:36.960 --> 0:11:38.679 people that are working on the front lines that are 0:11:38.760 --> 0:11:44.760 essential job workers, doctors and nurses, physicians, truck drivers, guys 0:11:44.760 --> 0:11:49.240 that are down the docks, police officers, firefighters. I mean, 0:11:49.640 --> 0:11:53.520 so the fact that they're out there and they're they're 0:11:53.640 --> 0:11:56.880 laboring hard, even during these tough times, you have to 0:11:56.880 --> 0:11:59.360 give a tip of the cat to these people. And 0:11:59.520 --> 0:12:02.320 even more are the people that aren't on that side 0:12:02.360 --> 0:12:05.880 of the railroad tracks that are losing their jobs, they're 0:12:05.920 --> 0:12:10.320 losing their income, they're going towards like drugs and alcohol 0:12:10.440 --> 0:12:14.600 and depression. Like like you said, the mind, the mind 0:12:14.720 --> 0:12:18.079 is a powerful thing, and so when you get control 0:12:18.080 --> 0:12:22.200 of that, it's not just a simple instance. It is 0:12:22.200 --> 0:12:24.800 is for life unless you get yourself rewired. And so 0:12:25.520 --> 0:12:29.880 where we're at right now is obviously extremely challenging. But 0:12:30.240 --> 0:12:33.800 these things in the end, like the truth always out 0:12:34.280 --> 0:12:37.240 and so no matter what we say. You said this 0:12:37.320 --> 0:12:41.040 in a previous episode, like we're down and we're open 0:12:41.440 --> 0:12:44.960 to whatever people say. So when people email us or 0:12:45.000 --> 0:12:47.080 tweet us or d m U s or text us, 0:12:48.120 --> 0:12:52.400 I don't delete ship, I listen, I watch even a 0:12:52.559 --> 0:12:57.720 Facebook or YouTube deletes and centers and wipes things out. 0:12:57.800 --> 0:13:01.880 But there's just that thing now that obviously people are 0:13:01.960 --> 0:13:07.480 looking to harness or or have their power, uh I 0:13:07.480 --> 0:13:12.120 guess bolted up right or or strengthened. And so the 0:13:12.200 --> 0:13:14.960 quickest way to do that is to swipe people underneath 0:13:15.000 --> 0:13:18.719 you that don't agree with your sentiments. And people are 0:13:18.720 --> 0:13:21.440 publishing stuff all across not only the country, but the 0:13:21.480 --> 0:13:25.559 world on instances that are going on, um what they 0:13:25.600 --> 0:13:29.040 feel is wrong or what they see as their civil 0:13:29.080 --> 0:13:33.120 liberties being taken away. And so you know, we have 0:13:33.160 --> 0:13:35.280 friends that are in Europe, we have friends are in 0:13:35.320 --> 0:13:38.319 the Asian markets. I communicate with a lot of people 0:13:38.400 --> 0:13:40.480 overseas now, and so it's not just here in the 0:13:40.559 --> 0:13:43.559 United States, but it's people worldwide that are being impacted 0:13:43.559 --> 0:13:48.280 by this with their local and and federal governments. And 0:13:48.360 --> 0:13:51.720 so that's a beautiful thing about Reddit and some of 0:13:51.720 --> 0:13:54.360 these other platforms that aren't really like part of the 0:13:54.360 --> 0:13:57.960 mainstream media, is that people still get this information out. 0:13:58.040 --> 0:14:00.760 It's just one way or another before it is it's 0:14:00.840 --> 0:14:05.840 captured and deleted. But it sucks, it's it's absolutely horrific. 0:14:06.760 --> 0:14:10.320 But I think you just look at in a smaller sense. 0:14:11.200 --> 0:14:13.040 I'm not a big fan of it, but people wearing 0:14:13.160 --> 0:14:16.120 masks And I said this last week on the radio 0:14:16.160 --> 0:14:18.280 with with Steve Hartman Rich arm Burger, because they were 0:14:18.280 --> 0:14:20.720 talking about the masks, and I said, Hey, do you 0:14:20.760 --> 0:14:23.880 know anyone in real life that wears these masks outside 0:14:23.920 --> 0:14:26.800 people that are in chemical plants? More often not it's 0:14:26.880 --> 0:14:29.600 boxers and m m A finders and the reason why 0:14:29.680 --> 0:14:32.000 they wear them is because they go up into the 0:14:32.000 --> 0:14:35.120 mountains and they wear these masks. And the reason why 0:14:35.120 --> 0:14:38.640 they do that is because it puts more additional stress 0:14:38.720 --> 0:14:41.520 on your body and on your lungs in particulars. So 0:14:41.600 --> 0:14:44.840 you're you're trying to fight for that extra oxygen in 0:14:45.480 --> 0:14:48.160 and you think about that, that's exactly what you and 0:14:48.200 --> 0:14:50.480 I and everybody else that's doing right now by wearing 0:14:50.520 --> 0:14:56.240 these masks. If we're healthy year old adults, we're putting 0:14:56.320 --> 0:15:01.120 extra stress on our body when it doesn't require Are that? So? No, Like, 0:15:01.200 --> 0:15:03.800 obviously you and I and everybody else is not playing doctor. 0:15:04.000 --> 0:15:09.440 But there's reasons why people are trying to protect their 0:15:09.520 --> 0:15:14.280 golden goose. And when in doubt, like we've seen over 0:15:14.320 --> 0:15:18.080 the last ten fifteen years, one in doubt, follow the 0:15:18.200 --> 0:15:22.240 money and there's got to be that's involved with all 0:15:22.280 --> 0:15:25.320 of this. Well, yeah, and you know the numbers are skewn. 0:15:25.360 --> 0:15:28.600 It is, It is true. List I brought up different studies. 0:15:28.600 --> 0:15:30.120 We're gonna do a segment here coming up in a 0:15:30.120 --> 0:15:31.800 couple of minutes study this where we look over some 0:15:31.840 --> 0:15:34.120 of the studies and whatnot. And it is easy to 0:15:34.200 --> 0:15:36.600 cherry pick things, but at the same time when I 0:15:36.920 --> 0:15:39.200 mentioned nuance and that story in the Wall Street Journal 0:15:39.240 --> 0:15:44.080 that we quoted, and it it does also apply here. Like, 0:15:44.160 --> 0:15:48.880 for example, the early stories were that a symptomatic A 0:15:49.200 --> 0:15:52.760 what's the word, I'm symptomatic asymptomatic? Yeah, exactly, thank you, 0:15:53.400 --> 0:15:55.520 that the people that people that don't show any symptoms 0:15:55.520 --> 0:15:59.360 can still spread the coronavirus. Well, that really scared the 0:15:59.360 --> 0:16:02.120 ship out of everybody. But now that they've updated that 0:16:02.240 --> 0:16:05.320 saying that that was not true, that that part of 0:16:05.320 --> 0:16:09.600 it was bullshit, and uh group out of Germany, UM 0:16:09.760 --> 0:16:14.000 scientists have a Germany debunked that. But people already heard 0:16:14.000 --> 0:16:16.600 it and formed their opinion based on that initial reporting. 0:16:16.640 --> 0:16:18.720 And so now you tell people that, oh, that's not true. 0:16:18.760 --> 0:16:21.600 I heard you know, some X, Y and Z and 0:16:21.600 --> 0:16:25.880 and all this stuff. But you mentioned the the tactics 0:16:25.880 --> 0:16:28.600 that are being used here, and you know, it's like, 0:16:30.000 --> 0:16:31.920 I go back to that Wall Street Journal thing again. 0:16:31.960 --> 0:16:34.480 You know, moral superiority was one of the lines I 0:16:34.480 --> 0:16:36.560 think they used in there about how you know, if 0:16:36.600 --> 0:16:39.320 you don't want this thing shut down, you're just only 0:16:39.320 --> 0:16:42.400 worried about the economy and all that stuff. Well, you 0:16:42.480 --> 0:16:45.440 know that that's you try to get people in lockstep 0:16:45.880 --> 0:16:48.360 with with their just the whole thing is a mess. 0:16:48.400 --> 0:16:52.600 And uh even locally though, we had Stanford up in 0:16:52.680 --> 0:16:55.760 Palo out So they ran a case study on a 0:16:55.800 --> 0:16:59.600 control group and found out that it's about fifty to 0:16:59.600 --> 0:17:03.080 any time is more likely that people have actually contracted 0:17:03.120 --> 0:17:05.840 the coronavirus and just didn't know it. I told you 0:17:05.880 --> 0:17:08.000 this a few episodes ago. One of my best friends 0:17:08.119 --> 0:17:11.760 in Dublin contracted the coronavirus and he he had the 0:17:11.800 --> 0:17:15.000 symptoms for four days and they were mild to light. 0:17:15.119 --> 0:17:18.480 He had the first two days he had muscle soreness 0:17:18.520 --> 0:17:21.719 and diarrhea. Third and four days he had upper congestion 0:17:21.880 --> 0:17:26.360 and that was it. He's forty years old and he's 0:17:26.359 --> 0:17:29.200 a doctor. He deals in high trauma, he deals in 0:17:29.280 --> 0:17:33.160 e er obviously, so he's around people all the time. 0:17:33.840 --> 0:17:38.040 But those are mild symptoms to light symptoms. And and 0:17:38.119 --> 0:17:41.000 you know what, like you and I it, we feel 0:17:41.040 --> 0:17:44.440 like it it's just either a common cold or the flu, 0:17:44.680 --> 0:17:46.680 and then we try to shoot it off. Obviously, not 0:17:46.720 --> 0:17:51.280 everyone's as fortunate, but I mean personally, I'm around older 0:17:51.320 --> 0:17:54.359 people as well, so I'm I'm obviously way more cautious 0:17:54.400 --> 0:17:57.440 about what I'm doing, where I'm at, and who I'm around, 0:17:57.760 --> 0:18:00.360 especially when going into the market and things of that. True, 0:18:00.400 --> 0:18:04.520 But but still it's um yeah, I just I just 0:18:04.640 --> 0:18:08.560 I noticed at times it's information overload because people are 0:18:08.560 --> 0:18:10.720 sending us all kinds of different things. We're watching, we're 0:18:10.720 --> 0:18:13.560 observing and trying to maintain sanity. But I mean, these 0:18:13.600 --> 0:18:16.760 things come out and damn it, like there will be 0:18:16.840 --> 0:18:19.320 a or two or three or different networks will actually 0:18:19.760 --> 0:18:24.440 cover it and be accurate and sincere about it. Well, yeah, 0:18:24.600 --> 0:18:28.119 and you know you look at the against paralysis by analysis, right, 0:18:28.119 --> 0:18:30.560 And that's why I I try to limit my consumption 0:18:30.560 --> 0:18:32.440 on the news. I get a lot of the information 0:18:32.480 --> 0:18:34.480 I get, you know, surfing around the internet or whatever, 0:18:34.560 --> 0:18:37.760 you know, and and that's that's how I self educate 0:18:37.880 --> 0:18:40.680 myself and what's going on. But there was another survey 0:18:40.720 --> 0:18:43.240 that came out that actually the mainstream media picked up 0:18:43.840 --> 0:18:47.120 that said two thirds of patients that in New York 0:18:47.200 --> 0:18:51.000 that were hospitalized with the coronavirus became infected, despite the 0:18:51.040 --> 0:18:53.560 fact that they stayed at home most of the time. 0:18:53.640 --> 0:18:58.119 So what the funk are we doing? That part of 0:18:58.160 --> 0:19:00.920 the reason why people are being treated or how they're 0:19:00.960 --> 0:19:04.800 being treated, is they're getting infusions with vitamin C and 0:19:04.960 --> 0:19:09.600 vitamin D. Yeah, listen, it's uh, it's a developing story. 0:19:09.600 --> 0:19:11.080 I'm sure we'll be able to talk more about it, 0:19:11.119 --> 0:19:13.760 but I recommend that if you're if you have access 0:19:13.800 --> 0:19:16.280 to the Wall Street Journal, it's an interesting read buying 0:19:16.280 --> 0:19:20.080 a paywall unfortunately. But it's the coronavirus and Project fear 0:19:20.160 --> 0:19:25.879 three point oh, and it resonated the meta that resonated 0:19:25.920 --> 0:19:27.479 with me. All right, So then we go on on 0:19:27.640 --> 0:19:29.840 Reddit to right, I'm sure like, yeah, I read it 0:19:29.960 --> 0:19:33.080 probably has that to Yeah. They do a lot of stuff, 0:19:33.080 --> 0:19:35.840 all right, So study this tribute to Penn and Teller 0:19:35.880 --> 0:19:39.680 and homage the Penn and Teller as it real or bullshit. 0:19:40.440 --> 0:19:43.440 And it's very tough. It's very tough to find studies 0:19:43.480 --> 0:19:47.080 that don't include the coronavirus. We'll do a few of those, 0:19:47.600 --> 0:19:49.439 and then we'll get to some other stuff. And we 0:19:49.520 --> 0:19:53.800 have pop quiz as well. And uh, these are actual 0:19:53.840 --> 0:19:56.880 studies from actual people, all right. The voices are getting 0:19:56.920 --> 0:20:01.520 louder and m I T study says bargaining lockdowns towards 0:20:01.520 --> 0:20:05.320 the elderly and vulnerable is the best approach. According to 0:20:06.560 --> 0:20:07.879 I used to. This ties into what we were just 0:20:07.920 --> 0:20:12.280 talking about. Um, yeah, now, are you insensitive if you 0:20:12.359 --> 0:20:15.680 say that the elderly and the vulnerable should stay home 0:20:15.760 --> 0:20:17.360 and the rest of people should go out and work. 0:20:17.440 --> 0:20:19.720 Is that rude? Is that wrong? Should we either all 0:20:19.760 --> 0:20:22.000 be in or out? I read a story and I 0:20:22.040 --> 0:20:24.679 don't know, this is real bullshit that said that in 0:20:24.720 --> 0:20:28.639 the history of pandemics, they've never they've never done it 0:20:28.720 --> 0:20:32.000 like this, where they usually would only tell the people 0:20:32.000 --> 0:20:34.159 that are at risk to stay home, not people that 0:20:34.200 --> 0:20:36.800 aren't risk. Be sure to catch live editions of The 0:20:36.840 --> 0:20:39.639 Ben Maller Show week days at two am Eastern eleven 0:20:39.720 --> 0:20:43.280 p m. Pacific. You quarantine the sick, that's what you 0:20:43.359 --> 0:20:47.719 do now With regards to this, obviously, older people are 0:20:47.760 --> 0:20:50.119 more susceptible because there are main systems are weaker and 0:20:50.119 --> 0:20:53.040 they just they just don't generate like younger people do. 0:20:53.560 --> 0:20:57.879 But on the other side, though, is that older people 0:20:58.000 --> 0:21:01.119 have a higher and built up a unity system too. 0:21:01.240 --> 0:21:05.320 So thinking about it, fifties sixty eight years on this planet, 0:21:05.359 --> 0:21:08.520 your immune system has been built on this and I've 0:21:08.840 --> 0:21:12.440 I've listened to Dodgers described this. Because when you wear 0:21:12.480 --> 0:21:15.760 a mask, you're suppressing your immune system from taking in 0:21:15.800 --> 0:21:18.800 all those germs and viruses and things like that that 0:21:18.880 --> 0:21:22.640 you can help that helps build your immunity. It's well, yeah, 0:21:22.720 --> 0:21:26.119 they we've seen medical research that said one of the 0:21:26.119 --> 0:21:28.640 great things about kids the reason they build up immunities 0:21:28.640 --> 0:21:31.399 because they play in mud. Yes, they're playing dirt, and 0:21:31.680 --> 0:21:34.119 they put any fucking thing in their mouth they come across. 0:21:34.160 --> 0:21:36.120 You know, kids, they don't have any you know whatever. 0:21:36.200 --> 0:21:38.760 Let me see what this tastes like, Oh, what is 0:21:38.800 --> 0:21:41.040 that poison? And I megin, guess what you gotta your 0:21:41.040 --> 0:21:42.840 main job when your parents, I guess the early users 0:21:42.840 --> 0:21:45.480