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Speaker 2: believe I am making history this weekend. So tomorrow, my

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Speaker 2: normal Sunday national partner, the great Rich Ornberger, will be

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Speaker 2: joining me as he always does. Today. It's great to

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Speaker 2: see Kerry Rhodes and studio here, Carrie. I believe that

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Speaker 2: I will be the first broadcaster ever to broadcast on

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Speaker 2: consecutive days with two different members of the twenty twelve

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Speaker 2: Arizona Cardinals. I don't think that this will ever be duplicated.

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Speaker 2: I think I am making history. It's hard to believe

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Speaker 2: that you and Rich were actually teammates your final year

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Speaker 2: in Arizona. Yeah, he had a one year stop of

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Speaker 2: teen his New England days and the Charger days. Did

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Speaker 2: you ever speak to Rich Ornberger during that year you

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Speaker 2: shared in Arizona? Yeah? I did, I remember Rich.

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Speaker 3: I mean Rich always had that like super mature mentality

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Speaker 3: about him. Oh yeah, just by the book down the

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Speaker 3: business that was Rich.

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Speaker 2: Are we talking about Rich and the same guy I

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Speaker 2: know her that I know when I know him. So

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Speaker 2: this may be me showing you how much I did

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Speaker 2: talk to him as well. Yeah, exactly, so he is

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Speaker 2: the class clown. But Carrie is great to have you

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Speaker 2: here today. We got a lot of things are going

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Speaker 2: to cover, you know. We uh, we obviously talk a

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Speaker 2: lot of NFL football, and there's a reason for that.

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Speaker 2: I was talking today. I was actually at a celebration

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Speaker 2: of life for an antemine that passed away. She had

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Speaker 2: a long, wonderful life. I was catching it with some

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Speaker 2: of my first cousins and we're just talking about NFL

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Speaker 2: in general, and Carrie, no, my background working for the Raiders,

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Speaker 2: you know, one hundred years ago, and just how much

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Speaker 2: this league has changed. So even though we have this

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Speaker 2: very brief hiatus until we get to training camps and

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Speaker 2: everything else that's coming, let me ask you this carry. So,

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Speaker 2: when you were playing in the NFL these couple of

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Speaker 2: and everything else, but did you take it second, how

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Speaker 2: did you prepare yourself for something that once you're a veteran,

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Speaker 2: once you've established yourself as a guy that's going to

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Speaker 2: be on the team, how did you prepare yourself for

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Speaker 2: the grind? That is always training camp. Yeah, it always.

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Speaker 3: It changed obviously, you know, when you come in as

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Speaker 3: You're trying to be ultra ready, and even as a vet,

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Speaker 3: that still happens. It's just the mode of operation, right,

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Speaker 3: So as a rookie, I'm coming in full blast, not

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Speaker 3: in all the way to the last day, you're doing curls,

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Speaker 2: And so that's what kind of happened, right.

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Speaker 3: I started to come out here and work out in

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Speaker 2: I mean back in the day, training camps started right

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Speaker 2: I want to get to today, but I want to

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Speaker 2: get things started with your team, the Jets team you

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Speaker 2: came up with. Obviously I missed you by year. I

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Speaker 2: actually now that they're going to be on Hard Knocks.

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Speaker 2: I went to Courtland to cover Hard Knocks in twenty ten.

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Speaker 2: There's a couple of takeaways. I had my buddy Victor Brick,

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Speaker 2: and I'm like, what is up with those things on

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Speaker 3: Plus the tan? So the tan kicked it off even more.

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Speaker 3: the teeth show as well. And it was a big thing.

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Speaker 2: just absolutely obscene. The other thing I remember is my partner,

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Speaker 2: enough to remember the Jets victory in Super Bowl three.

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Speaker 2: Joe Namath was literally his greatest sports here of all time,

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Speaker 2: and we'd actually met at a previous Super Bowl in Miami.

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Speaker 2: got his Super Bowl three ring on, and Vtb's like,

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Speaker 2: don't kiss the ring without permission. Yeah, nobody kisses that ring.

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Speaker 2: You could admire ring. I could show you the ring. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I appreciate that you appreciate me, but no, you're not.

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Speaker 3: You did not smooch the ring. Yeah, that's that's a

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Speaker 2: I don't know what it's going to be like this time,

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Speaker 2: is gonna get stuck with Hard Knocks. First of all,

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Speaker 2: are you a Hard Knocks fan as a former NFL player?

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Speaker 2: Have you watched Hard Knocks? I've never watched it.

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Speaker 3: But funny story is a producer friend of mine actually

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean the biggest feature is the turk you know,

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Speaker 2: Obviously with the addition of Aaron Rodgers a lot of hype.

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Speaker 2: you're producing this show and you come in with a

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Speaker 3: Well, I think the lure of the Jets right now

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Speaker 2: So how about into more super Bowls? He's only been

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Speaker 3: That part, you know, so being such a highly talented

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Speaker 2: All Right, So I tell you what I want to

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Speaker 2: curious when you have a lot of young talent and

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Speaker 2: but not being too.

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Speaker 3: Much in awe of that individual. I have history with that,

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Speaker 3: so I had the same situation happen. This is history

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Speaker 3: you know, we were looking at Brett very much in all.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well we'll talk about Eric Mangini handled that Brett

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Speaker 2: Favre situation and the current situation with the Jets team.

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Speaker 2: Let's face it, folks, of all the teams going into

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Speaker 2: this twenty twenty three NFL season, there's more curiosity about

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Speaker 2: the team that will be featured on Hard Knocks. That

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Speaker 2: would be the New York Jets. He's a New York Jet.

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Speaker 2: Carry Rose. We keep it right here. This is Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Saturday.

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Speaker 1: Hey, it's Ben, host of The Fifth Hour. With Ben.

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Speaker 5: Would mean a lot to have you join us on

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Speaker 1: You're asking what in God's name is the Fifth Hour.

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Speaker 5: I'll tell you it's a spin off of the Benmather Show,

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Speaker 2: You got a lot of sidebar stories going on right now.

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Speaker 3: I think what that boil, what that broils down to,

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Speaker 3: That's part of what greatness does. But Aaron has to

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Speaker 3: It's not about the coach saying anything about it. It's

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Speaker 2: All Right, let's go eyeball tests on Aaron Rodgers. Now

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Speaker 3: They're still seeing a guy that's only a year removed

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Speaker 2: I really do.

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Speaker 3: I think it is nowadays. The two headed monster thing

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Speaker 2: So the thing about Kerry is he's spent a life

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Speaker 2: leaders this way, either you have it or not. Leader

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Speaker 2: by definition is someone that inspires others to follow. I

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Speaker 2: mean ray Lewis was just I mean, like it, I

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Speaker 2: get it. The epitome of that, Yeah, is Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 2: a leader? You would have to ask the people and

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Speaker 2: that long to aspire others to follow.

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Speaker 3: He's a little he's a little eccentric in the personality

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Speaker 3: of what you're saying, and it could and then you

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Speaker 3: know what's the funny thing about that is it can

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Speaker 3: come off to other people as other things, right, And

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Speaker 3: so the people in the room with him, who really

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Speaker 3: know him could answer that totally different differently us on

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Speaker 3: the outside of the locker room. We can see it

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Speaker 3: and be like, I don't think he's a good leader,

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Speaker 3: or I think he finds finds for himself, or all

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Speaker 3: these different portrayals of the guy, which are fair. If

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Speaker 3: you don't know, you can make that assessment, but you

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Speaker 3: really only truly know if you're in that locker room.

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Speaker 3: So if you hear noise from the inside, that's a

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Speaker 3: different thing. But our own opinions are differently.

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Speaker 2: Wow, I love this kind of stuff all right, much

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Speaker 2: let's find out what is trending right now? Look who's

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Speaker 2: in the house, Nick Cops here?

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Speaker 1: What's going on?

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Speaker 2: Neck out right?

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Speaker 6: To be back with you, Steve Carrie, Nice to meet you.

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Speaker 6: Had the Wimbledon Women's Championship earlier today in upset Marquette

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Speaker 6: Vandrosova down six seed Onabur straight sets, first major title,

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Speaker 6: and Vandrosova is the first unseeded woman to everyone Wimbledon.

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Speaker 6: Just the third person to do it. Boris Becker did

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Speaker 6: it eighty five. Gorn Ivanisovic in two thousand and one

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Speaker 6: also did it. You got the men's final tomorrow. Top

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Speaker 6: two players in the world going at a Novak Djokovic

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Speaker 6: and Carlos al Karaz baseball couple finals. Phillies beat the

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Speaker 6: p Andre six to four, game one of their double

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Speaker 6: header in Philly. Manny Machano hit his three hundredth career

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Speaker 6: home run for San Diego, No stopped the Cardinals seven

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Speaker 6: to five and ten innings. They were finishing last night's

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Speaker 6: game that was suspended due to rain.

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Speaker 2: They'll play again in a few hours.

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Speaker 6: Royals on They got a double header today as well

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Speaker 6: in Kansas City, Raised leading the Royal six to one

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Speaker 6: of the ninth, two solo shots for Jose Siri. Cubs

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Speaker 6: in control against the Red Songs. It is ten to

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Speaker 6: three in the eighth. Cody Bellinger hit a grand slam

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Speaker 6: as part of a six run third inning. A couple

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Speaker 6: of first place teams in Toronto Blue Jays and Diamondbacks,

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Speaker 6: and that one as the Toronto blue Jays just going

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Speaker 6: back in front of Arizona three to two in the

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Speaker 6: fifth inning, was tied moments ago, and the Rangers on

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Speaker 6: top of the Guardians won nothing in the second. Earlier today,

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Speaker 6: Cleveland play starting pitcher Shane Bieber on the fifteen day

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Speaker 6: injured list with right elbow inflammation, and Gulf Roy McRoy

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Speaker 6: the one shot lead at the end of the third

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Speaker 6: round at the Scottish Open, and we've got the American

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Speaker 6: Century Championship in Tahoe. In the moment of the day,

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Speaker 6: Steph Curry had a hole in one on the par

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Speaker 6: three seventh from one hundred and fifty two yards, he

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Speaker 6: ran the entire one hundred and fifty two yards in

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Speaker 6: a dead sprint to the hole.

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Speaker 2: It was a second hole in one.

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Speaker 6: Ever, he's actually tied now with Marty Fish at the

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Speaker 6: top of the leader board because Curry has gone on

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Speaker 6: to have a couple of bogies with the former tennis

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Speaker 6: player and the Warriors star. There tied at the top

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Speaker 6: of the leaderboard. Back to you guys, Hi, Nick, thank

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Speaker 6: you very much. Once again we're coming to live from

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Speaker 6: the Tirak Doc studios. Yeah, I was reminded to of

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Speaker 6: Androsova wins today the Wimbledon.

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Speaker 2: She is a journeyman, so to speak. She's one of

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Speaker 2: those early exit people that show up at these Grand

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Speaker 2: Slam tournaments. She didn't make a run to the French

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Speaker 2: Open final a few years back. When when you're watching

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Speaker 2: sports in general, are you a fan of the underdog

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Speaker 2: or do you want greatness to shine? How do you

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Speaker 2: feel about that? I mean it's sort of a mixed bag,

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Speaker 2: Like we have these underdog stories that are great, but

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Speaker 2: when you have superstars that actually deliver, I don't know

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Speaker 2: how which way do you lean on that. It's that's

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Speaker 2: a tough question both. There's a little bit of both there.

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Speaker 3: I think it depends on if I have a root

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Speaker 3: and interest in that, in that in that champion. If

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Speaker 3: I don't, then a lot of times I do want

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Speaker 3: to see the underdog compete and make it, you know,

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Speaker 3: make it interesting, so to speak. But in my days

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Speaker 3: were talking about tennis. I mean, I was andre a

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Speaker 3: huge andre Agasi fan, right, so when he played, I

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Speaker 3: mean you always get excited for him to come out

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Speaker 3: and do his thing. And those long matches with him

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Speaker 3: and Pete Sampras back in the day so magical.

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Speaker 2: I mean, when we had Americans that were actually winning

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Speaker 2: Grand Slams. Yeah, with the Jim Curriers and the Michael

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Speaker 2: Changs of the world. Yeah, a different era. That's the sport. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 2: I want to ask you this, and this is a

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Speaker 2: bit of a loaded question. So Vandrosova, she wins Wimbledon,

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Speaker 2: congratulations from her. You win seven matches in two weeks.

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Speaker 2: That's impressive. Women play two out of three sets, the

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Speaker 2: men played three out of five. At these Grand Slam tournaments.

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Speaker 2: She will get the exact same paycheck as the winner

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Speaker 2: of tomorrow's men's Championship between the top two seeds Okaedz

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Speaker 2: and Djokovic. I am a big believer in equal pay

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Speaker 2: for equal play, but it's not equal play. I mean,

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Speaker 2: if the men are playing three out of five and

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Speaker 2: the winner are playing two out of three and getting

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Speaker 2: the exact same paycheck, I don't know. How do you

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Speaker 2: feel about this is a loaded question, by the way,

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Speaker 2: you can actually say I refuse to answer that question, Hartman,

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Speaker 2: But how do you feel about that?

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Speaker 3: That's that's another interesting point and topic. I didn't know

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Speaker 3: they had the same person.

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Speaker 2: And one of the Grand Slams the women fought for

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Speaker 2: and God for all four Grand Slams every round the

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Speaker 2: winners get the exact same paycheck.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think that's a great day at the office.

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Speaker 3: Then that's what I think about it. See, I think

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Speaker 3: that's one of those if you can fight for it

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Speaker 3: and and and you get it approved, I'm all for it.

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Speaker 3: I would say, if you got to win three out

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Speaker 3: of five, that's a little bit that's a little bit

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Speaker 3: more difficult to do, and.

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Speaker 2: There's no reason and by the way, women are getting

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Speaker 2: one might have been pressed on this, they said, well

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Speaker 2: they've had tournament. They can obviously play three out of five.

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Speaker 2: I mean there's you know, I don't know why if

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Speaker 2: you if you're goal pay for equal play, if you're

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Speaker 2: changing history, change it all the way around. Then played

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Speaker 2: played played the best out of five. Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 2: I I think we're at that age, time and space

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Speaker 2: where we can absolutely do that, all right. I want

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Speaker 2: to get back a little bit to some NFL news

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Speaker 2: here and the John Gruden situation. So the other day

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Speaker 2: I get a call from our bruddy bow. He wanted

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Speaker 2: me to go on with Mike Harmon and Arnie Spanier

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Speaker 2: with my Raider background because they were curious about how

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Speaker 2: much of what's happening today in terms of John Gruden,

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Speaker 2: his association with the Raiders and Roger Goodell, has anything

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Speaker 2: to do with what happened years ago with Pete Roselle

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Speaker 2: and Al Davis. And my response was very straightforward, everything everything.

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Speaker 2: When the Raiders left Oakland and moved to Los Angeles,

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Speaker 2: the owners voted on the Raiders move to LA it

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Speaker 2: was twenty five nothing against. And now Davis did it anyway,

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Speaker 2: and then he took the NFL to court and won

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Speaker 2: in court. Wow, And I knew that Mark Davis, even

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Speaker 2: though he had no direct association with the organization. One

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Speaker 2: thing I've always said about Mark Davis, He's a lot

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Speaker 2: smarter than you think he is. I know he's got

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Speaker 2: the dumb and dumber haircut, but I'm telling you I've

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Speaker 2: known Mark Davis. That's a smart dude. From a business standpoint,

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Speaker 2: run circles around his father, So I was never everyone's

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Speaker 2: in doubt, like they'll wrestle that Raiders organization away from

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Speaker 2: him because it's a valuable brand. He doesn't have a

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Speaker 2: lot of money outside of the value of the team.

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Speaker 2: The Davis family actually owns less than half of the team.

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Speaker 2: So you know, get the team to Vegas, let's force

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Speaker 2: him out and get some real ownership in I said,

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Speaker 2: not so fast. But this whole Grooden situation I think

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Speaker 2: stems a lot from that, you know, going back to

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Speaker 2: the tuck rule and everything else that went against the Raiders.

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Speaker 2: And believe me, I got an earfull of it over

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Speaker 2: the years about the conspiracies and everything else. But it

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Speaker 2: just seems now as we've taken a time to sort

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Speaker 2: of look at what happened here, like you're doing this

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Speaker 2: investigation on the then Redskins organization right, truly trying to

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Speaker 2: find stuff to get Daniel Snyder out as the owner.

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Speaker 2: Six hundred and fifty thousand emails, and the only emails

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Speaker 2: that become public are off color comments made by John

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Speaker 2: Gruden to Bruce Allen in the organization. And then immediately,

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Speaker 2: you know, Mark Davis gets a phone call saying, if

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Speaker 2: you don't fire him or figure out something or get

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Speaker 2: something done, we got more emails that could embarrass you.

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Speaker 2: What do you make of this whole thing? I'm just curious.

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Speaker 2: I mean, like, I mean, you talk about a Hollywood script, like,

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Speaker 2: what the hell is this? It's one of those things.

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Speaker 2: I just don't understand. What.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's a very it's a very fishy subject.

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Speaker 3: I mean, to say the least.

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Speaker 2: Well. I mean, if you're Gruden, he's he's gonna go

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Speaker 2: full bore after the NFL. He should, right, he should.

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Speaker 2: I mean for sure he's never going to coach again.

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Speaker 2: I would any NFL team, even if even if players

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Speaker 2: have vouched for recruiting saying he's not a racist. I

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Speaker 2: don't see anything here. He was having some goofball off

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Speaker 2: color comments to a friend e private emails, and now

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Speaker 3: If they had if they had a chance to look

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Speaker 3: at anybody's emails, anybody's texts from anytime, there's gonna be

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Speaker 3: something in there that you would probably want back. So

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Speaker 3: the fact that they're putting that out there and shifting

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Speaker 3: it straight towards him solely and not even the topic

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Speaker 3: of what was really going on is.

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Speaker 2: Very It's just it's crazy to me.

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Speaker 3: But you talk about him in particular, he's not going

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Speaker 3: to get a chance to get back in the league,

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Speaker 3: and so you know, you see him out doing these

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Speaker 3: videos of coaching and getting other guys and mentoring and

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Speaker 3: still getting players ready to play and shine on the

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Speaker 3: NFL level. I mean, that's great to see. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: I think his days are over all.

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Speaker 2: Right, So we assume that these billionaire owners have all

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Speaker 2: got skeletons in their class, one hundred percent all of

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Speaker 2: them as a player, because I think you're a lot

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Speaker 2: of people are curious out there, especially with the money

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Speaker 2: that professional athletes make these days, life changing money for

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Speaker 2: themselves and in many cases generations to come. Do you

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Speaker 2: really care who's handing you that check?

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Speaker 3: That's another good question. I think as you get older

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Speaker 3: that would change you would be more aware of the

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Speaker 3: people that are in your life and the people that

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Speaker 3: are giving you things, because all things aren't equal, and

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Speaker 3: that's the truth. And I think when you're younger and

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Speaker 3: you're coming out of college and you're coming out of

649
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Speaker 3: these impoverished situations where you're seeing these large sums of money,

650
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Speaker 3: I mean, you're gonna you're gonna take that from whoever's

651
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Speaker 3: giving it to you, right, But as you get older,

652
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 3: start having families, start being aware of social social issues

653
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Speaker 3: and all the things that are going on with the world.

654
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Speaker 3: I do think that changes. And I know that you know,

655
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Speaker 3: having the power some guys have to be able to

656
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Speaker 3: stay in situations or move on from situations. If the

657
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 3: person in control is a racist or somebody's not a

658
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Speaker 3: good person, you're not going to want to be involved

659
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Speaker 3: with that person. So I think it changes as you

660
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 3: get older. Money talks. Money does talk, but you can't

661
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Speaker 3: live with yourself. I think after that, if you're really

662
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Speaker 3: working on yourself being a good human and a good

663
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Speaker 3: person as well, you can't associate yourself with the likes

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Speaker 3: of those people.

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Speaker 2: Well, and my point is this, if you're going to

666
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Speaker 2: be a spokesperson for a social cause and you're you're

667
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 2: making that conscious decision that you want to make your

668
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 2: beliefs public, right, and not everyone has to. But if

669
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Speaker 2: you choose to go that path, but you're taking money

670
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Speaker 2: from people that are literally doing what you're going against. Yeah,

671
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Speaker 2: I mean, that's what we call the height of hypocrisy.

672
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Speaker 2: If you're even aware of.

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Speaker 3: It, if you're aware of it, if you have making

674
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Speaker 3: the conscious decision with that knowledge, yeah, yeah, you're part

675
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Speaker 3: of the problem. And I know it's hard to say

676
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 3: when that those sums of money you're coming to you

677
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 3: will come into those guys as individuals. But if you

678
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Speaker 3: are a part of that and you have this knowledge

679
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Speaker 3: of it, you're just as wrong about it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. All right. Coming up on the other side, we

681
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 2: got a lot of NBA trade rumors. Damian Lillard, what

682
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 2: is the latest? And Damian Lillard I got my theory.

683
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Speaker 2: I know Carrie's got some thoughts as well. This is

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Saturday, Steve Harbin, carry roads with you Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Saturday. We are live from the tire Rack dot

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Speaker 2: Com studios. Brandon our producers here. So you and Carrie

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Speaker 2: were talking about a comedian Brandon.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, so I heard Carrie a few years ago, actually

689
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Speaker 7: on a podcast. I mentioned this to him on a

690
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Speaker 7: podcast called The Lions Den. It was with Brent Moran

691
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Speaker 7: and this other comedian, Jason Collins, and I was telling

692
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Speaker 7: him he was great on the podcast and Brent Moorean's

693
00:33:57,680 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 7: super funny, and he was telling him he's one of

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Speaker 7: his one of his good friends.

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Speaker 3: Brent's a really good guy, really funny. I guess now

696
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Speaker 3: we're going to give Brent his his time.

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Speaker 2: So Brent, we love you. Brince is not a pay

698
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Speaker 2: all of plug all. He's not getting anything, but Brent's great. Yeah,

699
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Speaker 2: that's excellent. All right. I want to ask you about

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Speaker 2: Dame Lillard. All right, So from the get go, as

701
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Speaker 2: soon as it was announced that Damian Lillard wanted to

702
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Speaker 2: be traded, immediately my thought went back a year ago

703
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 2: to Kevin Durant. Kevin Durant had multiple years left on

704
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 2: his contract with the Brooklyn Nets Joe Say, who bought

705
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 2: the team for a record amount of money. The idea

706
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Speaker 2: that he was going to just trade him because he

707
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 2: wants to get traded when I have you under contract

708
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 2: is pure fantasy unless we get more than your market value.

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Speaker 2: And as we know, Kevin Durant did not get traded

710
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 2: before the season. He started the year with the Nets.

711
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 2: Same thing with Kyrie Irvy. So this idea that if

712
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Speaker 2: you want to get traded when you have a sign contract.

713
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 2: If you look at Damian Lillard's current deal, he is signed,

714
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 2: lock and key for the next three years, and then

715
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Speaker 2: he has a player option in twenty six, twenty seven

716
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Speaker 2: to four sixty two million dollars. Just let's let's think

717
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:21,839
Speaker 2: about those paychecks every two weeks anyway. So when the

718
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Speaker 2: Blazers responded by saying, hey, we'll do what we can,

719
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Speaker 2: but understand we're gonna do what's best for the organization,

720
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Speaker 2: I was laughing yesterday when I'm hearing like the Miami

721
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Speaker 2: are offering three number ones and Tyler Herro, who the

722
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 2: Blazers of over a, said, we have no interest in

723
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Speaker 2: Hero at all. And I'm thinking, you're not even halfway

724
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 2: to a deal, right, not even halfway to a deal

725
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Speaker 2: if I'm the Portland Trailer, because they're under no pressure.

726
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:55,799
Speaker 2: He's not a walkaway free agent, he's under contract. So

727
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Speaker 2: you want to wrestle one of the best players in

728
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Speaker 2: the league, one of the shooters of all time, give

729
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 2: me six number ones, even if you got to get

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Speaker 2: somebody else's three and they ear three, and I want

731
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Speaker 2: three proven. You don't have to give me Bam, you

732
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,839
Speaker 2: don't have to give me Jimmy Butler, But I want

733
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Speaker 2: everybody else he got left. I want. I want this

734
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Speaker 2: idea that you could make a deal for a guy

735
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Speaker 2: who's under contract, which is why Kevin Durant was not traded, right,

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Speaker 2: He wasn't traded until the roof caved in on the

737
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 2: net season. Then they said, fine, we'll get rid of

738
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,319
Speaker 2: this guy and they got a boatload and return by

739
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 2: the way from Phoenix. How did that work for the

740
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 2: Suns when you got your roster to get a guy. Yeah,

741
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Speaker 2: So I believe it when the Blazers came out a

742
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 2: couple of days ago saying, yeah, this could take a

743
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 2: while yet.

744
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 3: I mean, obviously when the president's being set with players

745
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 3: like Rudy Gobert, what was it, six seven first round picks? Bear, So,

746
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Speaker 3: I hear where you're coming from. Do you want a

747
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 3: disc ronald star on your team.

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Speaker 2: Or talk about that? Just match? Okay? All right? So

749
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 2: for the rest of us normal people, the idea idea

750
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Speaker 2: of being disgruntled when you're making forty to fifty sixty

751
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 2: million dollars a year just seems foreign to us. Right.

752
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 2: The fact is he signed that contract. By the way,

753
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 2: when he signed the contract, he did so publicly stating

754
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 2: he wanted to be a Blazer for life. Yeah yeah, Well,

755
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:32,800
Speaker 2: so why do I as an owner? Because if I

756
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,319
Speaker 2: I'm not going to get anyone in return that's going

757
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:38,760
Speaker 2: to be of his level. He is the greatest Blazer

758
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 2: of all time, with all due respect to the Bill

759
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 2: Waltons of the world and the Clyde Drexler's, this is

760
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 2: the best lifer got it in Blazer's history. Why do

761
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:51,280
Speaker 2: I have to buckle to his demands as an owner?

762
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Speaker 3: Let's look at it from the player's standpoint. Okay, he's

763
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:58,880
Speaker 3: been super loyal, he's been the model citizen, the model

764
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Speaker 3: player for the organization. Has got gotten you really close

765
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:04,879
Speaker 3: to the promised land. Hasn't gotten it done.

766
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 2: One trip to the Western Conference finals, that's it. That's it.

767
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 3: But always competitive, always in the mix for the top

768
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 3: four and that in that in that division, and you know,

769
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:15,919
Speaker 3: brought a lot of good days and good times to

770
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Speaker 3: the organization. Right, if we talk about loyalty and we

771
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,359
Speaker 3: talk about all these things where you know, we want

772
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,479
Speaker 3: our players to be loyal to organizations, and I think

773
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 3: vice vice versa. The players want that loyalty as well.

774
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:30,359
Speaker 3: Time is time is served, time is up.

775
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 2: I know, sign I know, we just I know we

776
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 2: can say that, but I think ultimately he did want

777
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 2: to do that. But when they gut the when they

778
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 2: cut at the roster and got rid of his run

779
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:44,959
Speaker 2: and made CJ. McCullum and they got worse as a team,

780
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 2: you're not doing him any favors either. So you got

781
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:50,839
Speaker 2: a shoot handers you're bringing in, you know, bringing cool

782
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 2: he's unproven, Well of course he's unproven, but he's a

783
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 2: high draftic and he's got promised on everyone. And I

784
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 2: talked to you say he might be the best of

785
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 2: the lot of these rookies and in and oportunity to

786
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 2: make an immediate impact. I just I don't know. Like

787
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:07,240
Speaker 2: I said, nobody forced him to sign a contract extension.

788
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 2: If he had concerns about the direction of the organization,

789
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 2: he could have played out his deal, or he could

790
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 2: have done what Lebron did start signing shorter term contracts.

791
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:19,720
Speaker 2: So if he only signed for a couple of years,

792
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:23,840
Speaker 2: duranted the same thing where you can then move in

793
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 2: a couple of years. He didn't do that, and he's

794
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 2: getting thrown a ton of money. I just I'm sorry.

795
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:32,800
Speaker 2: I just the idea. And people argue about, well, should

796
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:36,720
Speaker 2: players have this, Well, if a player, if a player

797
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 2: feels they can move, that's on ownership. That's on ownership.

798
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 2: If you're if you're buckling to a player's demands who

799
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 2: has a contract with you to trade him away and

800
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 2: not getting the equal and return, shame on you as

801
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:53,320
Speaker 2: an owner. I agree with you, I don't disagree.

802
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 3: I'm just trying to The conversation is such a broader

803
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Speaker 3: one than that because of the information that we've received

804
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 3: along the way. Dame has always been a stand up

805
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 3: guy and always spoke really highly about the organization, and

806
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 3: he's going to be there and all that stuff.

807
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 2: So it's it's a crazy it's a crazy situation. I

808
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 2: don't think he's going to get traded before the season,

809
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:15,360
Speaker 2: and then we'll see what happens in Portland, whether or

810
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 2: not he wants to stay long term. All right. On

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Speaker 2: the other side, the single most untradeable player in sports history,

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Speaker 2: this is Fox Sports Saturday.

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Speaker 2: I've known a lot of athletes of athletes, and I've

824
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 2: seen a variety of things happen post athletic career, and

825
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 2: it's always amazing to me watching athletes as you go

826
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 2: through the stage. You know, usually for most athletes, and

827
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 2: again there are late bloomers. They are exceptions to every rule.

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00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 2: But if you've got the it factor as an athlete,

829
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:25,840
Speaker 2: they find out early and then you're nurtured, you know,

830
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 2: eventually through your high school years, and then if you're

831
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 2: good enough, you make the cut to the college level,

832
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 2: and then if you get to the ultimate cut, you

833
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 2: become a professional athlete and all the good things that

834
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 2: come with it. And I've known athletes that have understood

835
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 2: that this is going to be a limited situation. And

836
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 2: I've seen other athletes, no matter how much money they're making,

837
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 2: are literally living paycheck to paycheck. But what they are

838
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 2: not always prepared for is when they step off the

839
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 2: field for the last time, and we hear horror stories.

840
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 2: I mean we hear seventy percent some ungodly number of

841
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:05,319
Speaker 2: NFL players within two years of their final game either

842
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 2: or just flat broke or a file for bankruptcy. The

843
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 2: money is gone, and the idea that you can step

844
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 2: into an announcer's job there aren't many of those, And

845
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 2: as we're seeing networks, they're cutting jobs, not adding jobs.

846
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:23,880
Speaker 2: So I was curious, Kerry, because you've you've had a

847
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:28,279
Speaker 2: very specific road in your post football career in the

848
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 2: entertainment field, and you've ventured in a lot of different things,

849
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 2: from acting to singing, I'm in a variety of things.

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Speaker 2: Was that something that you were conscious of when you played,

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Speaker 2: where you approached, you know, saying all right, well here's

852
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 2: a really good looking guy. You might be able to

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00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 2: do something like this. And I'm always curious not only

854
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:55,360
Speaker 2: your own path, but do you lend your own experience

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00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 2: to other players that are going to all be facing

856
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 2: the same situation, situation when their athletic career ends.

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00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 3: See, that's part of my life mission right now. Yeah,

858
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:08,279
Speaker 3: to use my voice to give those guys the blueprint

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Speaker 3: of what it can look like and what it can

860
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 3: feel like for you after you're done. So me coming

861
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 3: into the game, I told my mother when I first

862
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 3: got drafted, Yeah, I'll play four years.

863
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 2: And I'll be done.

864
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 3: I'm gonna get ready for my post career. I was

865
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 3: a writer, I was producing. I made a one man

866
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:28,759
Speaker 3: play in seventh grade. So I've always been that guy.

867
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 3: And then you get to this, you know, get to

868
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:36,840
Speaker 3: this level of being really really good at something where

869
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 3: it's a god given gift that you have to you know,

870
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 3: curate and you have to put into work to make it,

871
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 3: make it what it is. So you put some of

872
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 3: those other things to decide that you other passions you

873
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 3: may have, and you focus on that one passion that's

874
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:52,759
Speaker 3: bringing the bacon home, so to speak. Right, So you've

875
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 3: really put in all that time. That's such a you

876
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 3: and we're taught to do that, and it's such a

877
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 3: such a crazy dynamic because you're putting all your eggs

878
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 3: in this one basket, which a lot of players do

879
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 3: and we're told to do, but you're limiting these other

880
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 3: things that you can do after. Even in the offseason.

881
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 3: There's certain things certain time that you can express and

882
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:18,280
Speaker 3: lend some of your talent and energy to that stuff.

883
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:22,360
Speaker 3: But we're so one dimensional while we're playing, and for

884
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 3: good reason, because it's your craft. But I want guys

885
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 3: to understand that during the season, yes, it's all about that,

886
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:32,799
Speaker 3: but once you're done, like work on some of those

887
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:34,400
Speaker 3: things that you want to do some of the passions

888
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 3: that you want to do after. So the shock of

889
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 3: when that last play comes and you can't do it anymore,

890
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 3: that depression that follows for a lot of guys in

891
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:46,240
Speaker 3: that situation can be non existent for them if they're

892
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 3: gearing up for what's to come. This thing doesn't last long,

893
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:52,400
Speaker 3: and I just I've been a big advocate of talking

894
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:53,879
Speaker 3: about that and sharing my journey with it.

895
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:56,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of people would say, well, look, you've

896
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 2: made enough money to last your lifetime. You don't have

897
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 2: to worry work. Yeah, but you have to have a purpose.

898
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:04,759
Speaker 3: You have to have a purpose, and you do have

899
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 3: to work. There's other things you have to do. I mean,

900
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 3: this money, even now with the inflation and stuff that

901
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 3: we have going on in the world, two million dollars,

902
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 3: three million dollars isn't doesn't go as long as it

903
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 3: used to back in the day. So you think you're

904
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:19,840
Speaker 3: fine and you think you're set for after, but the truth,

905
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 3: you know, the reality of that situation is you're not.

906
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 3: And especially if you're talking about bringing kids in other

907
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:27,359
Speaker 3: situations and having wives and all these things. If you're

908
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 3: a single living with three million dollars, that's that can

909
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 3: go a little bit. Yeah, but when you're married and

910
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 3: have kids, that does not go the same the same.

911
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:37,799
Speaker 2: I mean, yes, that's married. Guys with kids know all

912
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 2: about that exactly. So just the awareness of that. And

913
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:44,760
Speaker 2: I think for me personally, just doing doing the work

914
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 2: and doing the things that I wanted to do, not

915
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:50,240
Speaker 2: because somebody else said I should do it or somebody

916
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 2: said I shouldn't do it if it feels right to

917
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:56,279
Speaker 2: me inside. It's it's that I talk about God, but

918
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 2: I just like this God energy. If you have that

919
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:00,839
Speaker 2: and you feel that and it feels right, you do it.

920
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 2: You know. Another former NFL player turned tesviian Eddie George.

921
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 2: I met Eddie a couple of times super Guy, and

922
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 2: he was sort of lost. You know, here was this

923
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:18,800
Speaker 2: incredible physical specimen, huge running back. I mean, he was

924
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:22,359
Speaker 2: a giant man and had all those great years and

925
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:26,800
Speaker 2: then it just ended and he just went into hiding,

926
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 2: he said, for a while, just completely trying to figure out, Okay,

927
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:33,439
Speaker 2: I had the fame, I've had the fortune, I got

928
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:36,759
Speaker 2: all that, Now what do I do? And he turned

929
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:39,880
Speaker 2: acting and it would just flourished for him. So I

930
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:46,400
Speaker 2: mean that to me is turning the page. You know,

931
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 2: they always say athletes have two deaths, the death of

932
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 2: their athletic career and then their normal life from that

933
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 2: point on. I take it you know Eddie. Yeah, no,

934
00:46:58,640 --> 00:46:59,959
Speaker 2: I know, yeah, we haven't.

935
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 1: Uh.

936
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 2: I mean it's been years though. I mean I haven't

937
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 2: seen Eddie in years, but I definitely know him. Yeah. Yeah,

938
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:06,880
Speaker 2: But I think what you're speaking on right now it's

939
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 2: very true.

940
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 3: I mean, even me knowing that I was going to

941
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 3: do something else and knowing what I was going to do,

942
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 3: there were still moments of darkness and depression for me.

943
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 3: Because you're leaving this arena where you're you have seventy

944
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:20,319
Speaker 3: thousand people screaming your name and I mean, the only

945
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 3: thing that you can really equate to that is the

946
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 3: life of a rock star or something right where you

947
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 3: really have the control of all these people that are

948
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 3: sitting down watching you and watching your every move oohing

949
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:34,920
Speaker 3: in an eye and with everything that you do, and

950
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 3: then you know you're done, and it's like you're walking

951
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:38,959
Speaker 3: the streets and.

952
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 2: You're that guy that used to do that thing. Yeah,

953
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 2: it's a crazy feeling. I love it. My dear friend

954
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:46,880
Speaker 2: LeVar Arrington big star here at Fox Sports Radio, he says,

955
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:49,439
Speaker 2: because we were talking about his days of Penn State

956
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:53,279
Speaker 2: happy about hundred thousand fans, and you know, he's a

957
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 2: superstar obviously in college. He goes, you know what it

958
00:47:56,200 --> 00:48:01,280
Speaker 2: was like for me to walk into that stadium nineteen

959
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 2: twenty years old, raise my hands and one hundred thousand

960
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:12,400
Speaker 2: people get on their feet. I mean, I can't imagine.

961
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 2: Because when we talk about adrenaline rush, people say, well,

962
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:18,319
Speaker 2: this guy's an adrenaline junkie. Well, we're all, to some

963
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:22,320
Speaker 2: degree adrenaline junkies. We have a certain level of excitement

964
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 2: in our lives whatever the venture might be. But from

965
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 2: an athlete standpoint, and I've known so many you know,

966
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:32,319
Speaker 2: I'm name dropping all over the place, but I mean,

967
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:34,839
Speaker 2: Eric Dickerson has been a dear friend of mine for many,

968
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:39,400
Speaker 2: many years, and it's been thirty years since he played

969
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 2: in the NFL, and we've watched highlights together of his days.

970
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 2: He goes, I know that's me. I know that's me,

971
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:52,399
Speaker 2: but that's so long ago. I don't even I don't

972
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 2: even really remember that guy being me. I mean, I

973
00:48:57,160 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 2: know it's me. I'm watching it. I can remember glimpses

974
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 2: of it. Yeah, you know, when it was actually happy,

975
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 2: But in retrospect, it's almost hard for me to relate

976
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 2: to that me.

977
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:12,879
Speaker 3: Oh that's one hundred percent truth, and that's a that's

978
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 3: a real statement because of me too. Moving forward as well,

979
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 3: it's like, all right, this part is gone. Yeah, I

980
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 3: don't want to be the guy that's and it's forty

981
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 3: still talking about that guy like he's the only like

982
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:27,959
Speaker 3: that's the only thing that's ever existed in my world,

983
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 3: in my life. Right, So you want this healthy dissociation

984
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 3: from that. But once you get that disassociation from it,

985
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 3: you also need a healthy association with it as well,

986
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 3: because that guy is very important to the guy that

987
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:44,839
Speaker 3: you are now as well. So it's just bringing these

988
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 3: worlds emerging, these worlds together. It is what makes it

989
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:48,360
Speaker 3: makes it beautiful.

990
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:52,799
Speaker 2: Being an actor, among other things. How difficult is it, though,

991
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 2: to get away from oh, you played in the NFL

992
00:49:57,680 --> 00:50:02,399
Speaker 2: and sort of that lay that you're not really one

993
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 2: of us, you're one of them, and he wanted to

994
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 2: be one of us.

995
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, it took the work. It's about putting in the work.

996
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 3: When I first started, obviously I was getting the roles

997
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 3: that kind of fit that narrative, the normal jock roles right.

998
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 3: Also for in my case, you know the quote unquote

999
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 3: good looking boyfriend, the easy stuff that would you know, yeah,

1000
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 3: anybody could do. You have to put in the work.

1001
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 3: I had to prove myself. I had to not use

1002
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:30,880
Speaker 3: all the favors that I had. So you talk about

1003
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 3: being that guy, people didn't know me for being that guy,

1004
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:37,799
Speaker 3: and I purposefully didn't use any of those connections. I

1005
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 3: put into work. I literally tried to not be associated

1006
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:43,719
Speaker 3: with that world at all and do the work. And

1007
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:47,320
Speaker 3: once I did that, I landed landed my first series

1008
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 3: regular job. And once I got that and started showing

1009
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 3: that I could do the work and have the tape

1010
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 3: to prove it.

1011
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:54,799
Speaker 2: The rest was history. Yeah, I mean we've seen it

1012
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:57,440
Speaker 2: happen Fred Dryer going way back in the day. You know,

1013
00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:00,320
Speaker 2: he was one of my favorite RAMS players. He was

1014
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:02,360
Speaker 2: a great player out of San Diego State, by the way.

1015
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:05,799
Speaker 2: And then he's got that role in Hunter. Yeah, and

1016
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, people like looked at him like, wow,

1017
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 2: this guy actually can pull that off. Well, we get

1018
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 2: much more. I love the work that you're doing to

1019
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:13,919
Speaker 2: help out a lot of these players, but I do,

1020
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 2: on the other side, want to get to the most

1021
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:21,360
Speaker 2: untradable athlete in recent memory. Who is it? You're gonna

1022
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 2: find out. This is Fox Sports Saturday, Steve Harmon and

1023
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 2: Kerry Roads with you Fox Sports Saturday, and we are

1024
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 2: coming to live from the ti raq dot Com studios.

1025
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:38,720
Speaker 2: All right, Iowa. Sam by the way, still buzzing about

1026
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 2: his self imposed visit to my house, which, by the way,

1027
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 2: you're welcome any time. Sam. Everyone loves you and I

1028
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 2: love them. And it was a great visit. We had

1029
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 2: a great visit. Sam came in so Sam on all

1030
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 2: the years I've worked with Sam, he doesn't he doesn't

1031
00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 2: really listen to a lot of what I'm saying. But

1032
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 2: that's not true. I'm listening right now. Okay, well you're

1033
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:03,400
Speaker 2: wilstening because I mentioned your name but here, and I

1034
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:06,360
Speaker 2: don't hold that against anybody. I guess peaked. None of

1035
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 2: that matters to me. But he brought up a point

1036
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:12,759
Speaker 2: and I was I was remiss here. So you were

1037
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 2: talking earlier comparing this Aaron Rodgers situation to the situation

1038
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 2: when you were the Jets, when Brett Farv came to

1039
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:24,239
Speaker 2: the Jets, and you were talking about Brett Farv, and

1040
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 2: you just sort of threw a line out that like

1041
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:29,640
Speaker 2: he was completely separate from the rest of the team,

1042
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 2: and I stopped you, but I never really went back

1043
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:36,319
Speaker 2: to getting more details. So for Sam and the other

1044
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:39,759
Speaker 2: listeners at the time that want the whole story, when

1045
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:44,359
Speaker 2: you say that Brett Farv separated himself and that one

1046
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:46,480
Speaker 2: year with the Jets from the rest of the team,

1047
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:51,439
Speaker 2: give us some detail and exactly how he separated himself. Well,

1048
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 2: I mean, yes, Brett Farv is you know, just take

1049
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:59,879
Speaker 2: for one instance, dress code, right the team dress code

1050
00:52:59,880 --> 00:53:01,800
Speaker 2: for us if we were on the road, if we

1051
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 2: were going outside of the New York metropolitan area, we're

1052
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 2: gonna wear suits. Was that a ownership or is that

1053
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 2: a Mangenie that's a Mangenie order. Okay, so he was

1054
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 2: the coach former Belichick. Is that the way the Patriots

1055
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 2: rolled by the way? I think? So?

1056
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:21,479
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, so that that take that one thing right.

1057
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:23,239
Speaker 3: And we know we're getting ready for the first game

1058
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:26,319
Speaker 3: of the season. We're playing Miami down in Miami. Yeah,

1059
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:29,719
Speaker 3: and we're heading into the plane. We see Brett pulling up.

1060
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:31,799
Speaker 3: Brett has on wranglers.

1061
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, and for us coming into this whole season, preseason

1062
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:41,719
Speaker 2: training camp, all the things, everything's by the book, everything's

1063
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:42,440
Speaker 2: by the rules.

1064
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 3: It's the Mangenie way, it's a Belichick way, it's a

1065
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:47,799
Speaker 3: it's the Patriot way. That's really what's going on in

1066
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 3: New York at the time. So to have somebody like that,

1067
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:52,719
Speaker 3: obviously we looked up to Brett. We knew about what

1068
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 3: he did before, so we put him on a pedestal.

1069
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:58,400
Speaker 3: We didn't say much the first time, but when that continued,

1070
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:01,280
Speaker 3: it started to wear because we weren't having these success

1071
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:04,439
Speaker 3: early on, so those things ought to wear out. We're

1072
00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:05,760
Speaker 3: thin and once you start losing.

1073
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 2: So we had Aaron Rodgers come out and talk about hallucinogenics. Yeah,

1074
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:14,400
Speaker 2: it's something that can work. And I remember at the

1075
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:17,439
Speaker 2: time I said something along the lines of if I'm

1076
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:21,240
Speaker 2: Robert Salah, I need to pull him in saying, look,

1077
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:24,360
Speaker 2: you can do what you want to do. Eric, Seriously,

1078
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:28,120
Speaker 2: whatever works for you. I'm one hundred percent out there,

1079
00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 2: but understand this what works for you may not work

1080
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:35,680
Speaker 2: for someone else. And you got a big voice because

1081
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:38,720
Speaker 2: you're Aaron Rodgers. I got a lot of young players

1082
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:41,800
Speaker 2: on this team and they're like, wow, is this something

1083
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:46,399
Speaker 2: I should be doing. I don't know if Sala did

1084
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:50,120
Speaker 2: that or what happened, but when we talk about just

1085
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 2: the locker room itself, So how did this play out

1086
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:55,800
Speaker 2: with Brett Favre? I mean, was there a point where

1087
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 2: things started to get more separated between he and the

1088
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:00,439
Speaker 2: rest so the team?

1089
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:03,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, the fishers start coming once you once you know

1090
00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:06,640
Speaker 3: it starts with not wearing a suit, right, but then

1091
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:09,800
Speaker 3: it permeates to something else in the leads to something bigger.

1092
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 3: Where at the end of the at the end of

1093
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:14,400
Speaker 3: the season, Brett wasn't even we never saw Brett in

1094
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 3: the locker room.

1095
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:18,000
Speaker 2: He had his own place. Yeah, yeah, what do you mean?

1096
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:20,280
Speaker 3: He had his own place to change with the coaches,

1097
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 3: I'm guessing. I'm guessing we have no we.

1098
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:27,880
Speaker 2: Have no clue. Here's the quarterback of the team, and

1099
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 2: you don't even know where he's getting dressed. We don't know.

1100
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 3: He had a locker that was in the locker room

1101
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 3: with us that was never used. He was changing somewhere else.

1102
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 3: He was probably eating somewhere else. You know, all the things.

1103
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:44,360
Speaker 3: So there was moments on the field. I mean I

1104
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:46,800
Speaker 3: had great movements with Brett too. I mean, yeah, Brett.

1105
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:49,520
Speaker 3: I remember it was snowing outside, and I remember this vividly.

1106
00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:52,680
Speaker 3: I had my helmet down, and we were me and brother.

1107
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:55,160
Speaker 3: We're friends, We're cool. I'm not talking bad about him,

1108
00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:58,560
Speaker 3: it's just the situation what it was. But I remember

1109
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 3: him packing snow and my helme and and I didn't

1110
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:03,279
Speaker 3: I wasn't paying attention, wasn't looking grab my helmet put

1111
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:05,600
Speaker 3: it on, like snowfalls all over my face, which is

1112
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 3: no funny stuff. But yeah, I mean, at the end

1113
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:11,760
Speaker 3: of the day, it starts fishering when those things are happening,

1114
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:16,120
Speaker 3: and the team starts losing, right And with the guy

1115
00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:18,760
Speaker 3: like Brett, he wasn't even like forthcoming with his injuries

1116
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 3: or anything. So at the end of the year, we're

1117
00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 3: nine to three, he hurts his elbow during that season,

1118
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:28,719
Speaker 3: if he rests for two weeks and gets back to

1119
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:30,440
Speaker 3: one hundred percent and then we have a chance to

1120
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:33,239
Speaker 3: clench the playoffs down the line. You do that, you

1121
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:35,640
Speaker 3: give us the best chance to win. But you talk

1122
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:38,720
Speaker 3: about being somebody that was worried about himself and his brand.

1123
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 3: He continued to play with a soora elbow, couldn't even

1124
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:44,480
Speaker 3: throw the ball down the field at all.

1125
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:49,320
Speaker 2: And justive game streak that will never be broken in season. Yeah,

1126
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:52,080
Speaker 2: that is unbelievable. So let me ask you this. I

1127
00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:56,080
Speaker 2: don't want to age you, obviously, but it we're like

1128
00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:59,759
Speaker 2: a generation. There's a different generation than the generation you

1129
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:03,200
Speaker 2: And that's the way it is in the NFL. This

1130
00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:06,279
Speaker 2: idea of being sort of separated from a team. I mean,

1131
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:08,320
Speaker 2: if Aaron Rodgers, I don't know if he's going to

1132
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:10,520
Speaker 2: do this. You insist knowing Aaron, he's going to be

1133
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:13,160
Speaker 2: one of the guys. But if he's not, if he

1134
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:17,480
Speaker 2: wants to sort of separate himselves, does it fly more now,

1135
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:20,960
Speaker 2: do you think than it would ten to fifteen years ago?

1136
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:25,320
Speaker 2: Has an attitude change in locker rooms at all.

1137
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:29,320
Speaker 3: I think it has, but I don't think that I

1138
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:31,800
Speaker 3: don't think that constitutes the winning though. I still think

1139
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:33,760
Speaker 3: the locker room has to be sacred, and I think

1140
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 3: the locker room has to be dysfunctioning device, this dysfunctioning

1141
00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:41,120
Speaker 3: mechanism that lives on its own because at the end

1142
00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:42,960
Speaker 3: of the day, it's so many personalities, and I think

1143
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 3: people are giving, you know, giving credence to that.

1144
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 1: Now.

1145
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:48,040
Speaker 3: They want people to be individuals, and they want people

1146
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:51,560
Speaker 3: to stand out and have their own platforms, have their podcast,

1147
00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:53,000
Speaker 3: do all their things they're doing.

1148
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 2: Even during the season. He's like a Draymond Green. He'll

1149
00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:59,440
Speaker 2: play a game and talk about his teammates and coaches

1150
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:03,480
Speaker 2: like it's not even part of him, right, Like, just

1151
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:06,360
Speaker 2: you know, it's crazy to think about we wouldn't do that.

1152
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:07,280
Speaker 2: We couldn't do that.

1153
00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:10,160
Speaker 3: So I think it's being allowed and celebrated, But at

1154
00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:12,800
Speaker 3: the end of the day, I think the functioning mechanism

1155
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:14,920
Speaker 3: of a locker room has to still be intact.

1156
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:19,040
Speaker 2: Does a quarterback have to be the leader of a team?

1157
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:24,440
Speaker 3: Oh, that's a great question for them to ultimately win

1158
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:27,680
Speaker 3: it all. I believe so, and I think I can

1159
00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:29,920
Speaker 3: take my team in two thousand and nine with the Jets,

1160
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 3: we made it to the AFC Championship Game. We had

1161
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 3: a rookie at quarterback. He was not our leader. We

1162
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:37,760
Speaker 3: had leaders on that team that got us to that

1163
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 3: point and we're really good. And I think you can

1164
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:43,440
Speaker 3: have success that way. But if your quarterback's not the

1165
00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:45,880
Speaker 3: leader at the end of the day, I think it

1166
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:47,200
Speaker 3: doesn't get you over the hump.

1167
00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:51,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's some rare exceptions obviously. I mean my

1168
00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:55,720
Speaker 2: old timer was Trent Dilfer. Go there literally got released

1169
00:58:56,960 --> 00:59:01,080
Speaker 2: released by the team after winning the Super Bowl. Yeah, yeah,

1170
00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:08,040
Speaker 2: wins the Super Bowl. He got it done and got released. Yeah.

1171
00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:10,600
Speaker 2: They functioned well after that. All right, I'm going to

1172
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:14,200
Speaker 2: start the conversation now about the most untradeable athlete in

1173
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:19,600
Speaker 2: recent memory. And I actually heard your former Arizona Cardinals

1174
00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:22,840
Speaker 2: teammate and my longtime partner Rich Ornberger say this first

1175
00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:28,160
Speaker 2: show heo Tani by the way, show, Hey, yesterday went

1176
00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:32,440
Speaker 2: out again. He's having finger problems pitching wise, and by

1177
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:34,080
Speaker 2: the way, after being four and oh with the one

1178
00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:37,000
Speaker 2: to eighty five era in April, since then, he's three

1179
00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:40,480
Speaker 2: and five with an era pushing five. Of course, his

1180
00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:44,440
Speaker 2: bat has been unreal. The month of June was ridiculous.

1181
00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:50,680
Speaker 2: That being said, the reason that and we're hearing especially

1182
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:53,160
Speaker 2: like yesterday after he pitched and came out of the game.

1183
00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:56,800
Speaker 2: You know teams are going after show Heo Tani. Let's

1184
00:59:56,840 --> 00:59:59,560
Speaker 2: be real about this. First of all, show Hao Tani

1185
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:03,440
Speaker 2: has made it infinitely clear that the next team he

1186
01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:07,200
Speaker 2: plays for is going to be a West Coast team,

1187
01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:11,800
Speaker 2: and he wants a West Coast team that's not going

1188
01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:15,920
Speaker 2: to be hyped up on a lot of publicity. So

1189
01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:20,440
Speaker 2: let's scratch the Dodgers. Shoe Heo Tani will not be

1190
01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:23,800
Speaker 2: a Dodger, So he's either going to remain with the

1191
01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:28,120
Speaker 2: Angels or he's going to be a Mariner, a Giant,

1192
01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:34,440
Speaker 2: or a Padre. So let's just remember that now if

1193
01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:38,920
Speaker 2: you're the Angels, since we've never had a player like

1194
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:41,920
Speaker 2: Sho Heo Tani, and forget the Babe Ruth stuff, Okay,

1195
01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:46,440
Speaker 2: that's not the same. There has never been, nor do

1196
01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:49,120
Speaker 2: I believe there ever will be the talent that we're

1197
01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:53,440
Speaker 2: seeing in show Heo Tani. So there's no guide of Okay,

1198
01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:56,600
Speaker 2: what do you want in return for Shoeo Tani? So

1199
01:00:56,640 --> 01:00:59,200
Speaker 2: if I'm the Angels again, even though he is a

1200
01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:02,240
Speaker 2: walk away free agent, and you could say we may

1201
01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:07,240
Speaker 2: not sign him, that doesn't matter to me. If I'm

1202
01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:10,919
Speaker 2: contacting a team or they're contacting me. Here's where I'm

1203
01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:15,000
Speaker 2: starting with, show Heyotani, I want your five top minor

1204
01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:17,560
Speaker 2: league prospects, and three of them, at least three have

1205
01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:22,160
Speaker 2: to be pitchers. That's where we're starting. I need three

1206
01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:25,240
Speaker 2: to four proven everyday players because I'm giving you an

1207
01:01:25,240 --> 01:01:27,959
Speaker 2: ace pitcher and one of the best hitters in the league.

1208
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:33,200
Speaker 2: So let's say a team makes that deal. If your

1209
01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:36,720
Speaker 2: show heyo Tani, You're like, why would I stay with

1210
01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:40,080
Speaker 2: a team that literally gutted their future to get me.

1211
01:01:41,040 --> 01:01:43,600
Speaker 2: The only reason I would leave the Angels is to

1212
01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:45,520
Speaker 2: go to a situation where I think I have a

1213
01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:49,640
Speaker 2: better chance long term to win a championship. I want

1214
01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:53,680
Speaker 2: to win championships. You gutted your team in order to

1215
01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:57,560
Speaker 2: get me, Thanks for doing so, but I'm turning elsewhere.

1216
01:01:57,880 --> 01:02:01,160
Speaker 2: In other words, he really is unte tradable because the

1217
01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:04,680
Speaker 2: Angels could never get the equal and return in a deal.

1218
01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:08,080
Speaker 2: But most likely if a team came up with the

1219
01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:12,280
Speaker 2: hefty sum to get him, they would literally be mortgaging

1220
01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:15,200
Speaker 2: their future in order to make the trade make it

1221
01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:17,840
Speaker 2: even less likely that he would sign with that team

1222
01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:19,720
Speaker 2: long term. I agree.

1223
01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:23,080
Speaker 3: I think I think your point is very valid. I mean,

1224
01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:26,160
Speaker 3: watching him play is just it's ridiculous. It's one of

1225
01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:30,200
Speaker 3: those things where you know that kid's been good at

1226
01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:34,200
Speaker 3: everything he's ever done in his life, like everything, and

1227
01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:37,160
Speaker 3: he makes it look so effortless. We've never I agree

1228
01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:39,200
Speaker 3: with you on the point, we've never seen anybody like

1229
01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:44,760
Speaker 3: him either, And I don't you got to pay him

1230
01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:48,320
Speaker 3: whatever he wants, Okay, So if you're the Angel, yes see.

1231
01:02:48,320 --> 01:02:50,160
Speaker 2: If Arty Marina, you remember he's going to sell the

1232
01:02:50,200 --> 01:02:51,800
Speaker 2: team and then all of a sudden he backed out

1233
01:02:51,840 --> 01:02:56,280
Speaker 2: of it. If I'm already Marina, I simply tell show, hey,

1234
01:02:57,040 --> 01:03:02,280
Speaker 2: whatever offer you get, I'll top it, right. I don't

1235
01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:05,040
Speaker 2: care what the number is. It could be a seven

1236
01:03:05,160 --> 01:03:07,920
Speaker 2: hundred million dollar deal, an eight hundred million dollar I

1237
01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:12,440
Speaker 2: don't care what number is thrown out at you. I

1238
01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:15,880
Speaker 2: guarantee you we will top that number if you stay

1239
01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:17,840
Speaker 2: an angel. Do you think it's about the money for

1240
01:03:17,880 --> 01:03:19,880
Speaker 2: so Hey, I don't. I don't think so.

1241
01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:22,000
Speaker 3: I think if he makes it to a free agency,

1242
01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:23,920
Speaker 3: I think he's gonna go to the place where he

1243
01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:25,600
Speaker 3: wants to go, And all.

1244
01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:27,840
Speaker 2: Right, we'll hold it right there because I because I

1245
01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:30,720
Speaker 2: just gave you the three most likely teams that he's

1246
01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:33,840
Speaker 2: gonna end up on if he doesn't stay with the Angels.

1247
01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:36,360
Speaker 2: But first, let's find out what is a trending right now?

1248
01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:41,440
Speaker 2: Hy nick uh? Do you believe that shoe heey O'tani's

1249
01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:43,120
Speaker 2: gonna be traded in the next two weeks.

1250
01:03:43,320 --> 01:03:45,400
Speaker 6: I don't think he's gonna it's gonna be too difficult.

1251
01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:49,000
Speaker 6: You got a bunch of teams that are gonna pine

1252
01:03:49,040 --> 01:03:50,000
Speaker 6: for him in the offseason.

1253
01:03:50,120 --> 01:03:52,000
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't think it makes sense to trade

1254
01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:54,120
Speaker 2: for him. Well, I mean if you're an East Coast team,

1255
01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:55,800
Speaker 2: because he's made it clear he wants to stay on

1256
01:03:55,840 --> 01:03:58,320
Speaker 2: the West coast. Yeah, you know, if you're the Yankees

1257
01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:00,640
Speaker 2: or the Red Sox or you know, it's your.

1258
01:04:00,560 --> 01:04:03,040
Speaker 6: Only chance, I suppose is to try and trade them

1259
01:04:03,080 --> 01:04:05,240
Speaker 6: and lure them in. Then I guess to a long

1260
01:04:05,320 --> 01:04:05,800
Speaker 6: term deal.

1261
01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:08,720
Speaker 2: But how do you even begin to try to figure

1262
01:04:08,720 --> 01:04:09,760
Speaker 2: out a package?

1263
01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:13,479
Speaker 6: You just you make an offer and the Angels go nope.

1264
01:04:13,560 --> 01:04:16,040
Speaker 6: More you just keep going back and forth. I get,

1265
01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:17,120
Speaker 6: But yeah, I have no idea.

1266
01:04:17,160 --> 01:04:20,400
Speaker 2: It seemquivalent of getting two players. Yep, you're getting one

1267
01:04:20,440 --> 01:04:22,640
Speaker 2: of the top pitchers in baseball and one of the

1268
01:04:22,680 --> 01:04:26,400
Speaker 2: top hitters in baseball. So you're really getting a two

1269
01:04:26,520 --> 01:04:29,320
Speaker 2: fur which means you gotta double up on the package

1270
01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:32,360
Speaker 2: that you're offer. Come on, give us something. I'm not

1271
01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:33,280
Speaker 2: a baseball GM.

1272
01:04:33,560 --> 01:04:35,880
Speaker 6: I do find it funny though, just living in La

1273
01:04:36,040 --> 01:04:38,919
Speaker 6: Dodger fans are so confident he's going to be wearing

1274
01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:40,360
Speaker 6: a Dodger uniform.

1275
01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:43,400
Speaker 2: If not later. To what he's saying, the idea of

1276
01:04:44,480 --> 01:04:48,200
Speaker 2: just the spotlight of being a Dodger doesn't seem to

1277
01:04:48,320 --> 01:04:51,080
Speaker 2: be where he's at. Come on, come on home to

1278
01:04:51,120 --> 01:04:55,120
Speaker 2: San Francisco show. Hey, it's mister Bay Area. Yes, how

1279
01:04:55,160 --> 01:04:57,680
Speaker 2: are you looking at Giants' uniform? To you? He looked great.

1280
01:04:57,840 --> 01:05:02,280
Speaker 6: That that dark black hair, that cream home uniform, the

1281
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Speaker 6: orange and black. He's mccubby cob looking for him. Oh,

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Speaker 6: I mean he's you know. They just topped one hundred

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Speaker 6: splash hits. It took a long time because Bonds hasn't

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01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:12,960
Speaker 6: played for a while, but that number is gonna I

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Speaker 6: think's gonna serve Homer.

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Speaker 2: He hits goes four to forty. It seems it's like, yeah, hey,

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Speaker 2: he's gonna get a lot of art.

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Speaker 6: You're gonna you're gonna see the Kayaks out in McCovey

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Speaker 6: Cove like they were twenty years ago. Remember that, all right,

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Speaker 6: let's uh, let's get you the baseball score. Some finals

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Speaker 6: from today. The Phillies beat the Padres six to four.

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Speaker 6: That's game one of a double header they're playing. Manny

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Speaker 6: Machado hit career home run number three hundred there for

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Speaker 6: the p Andres. NAT's topped the Cardinals seven to five.

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Speaker 6: Ten innings they played. They had to finish last night's

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Speaker 6: game that was suspended due to rain, so they're gonna

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Speaker 6: play again in about an hour and a half. Raised

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Speaker 6: to a game one of a double header over the

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Speaker 6: Royals six to one. Who's a serie homer twice. Cubs

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01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:53,920
Speaker 6: dominated the Red Sox ten to four. Cody bellingerk speaking

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01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:56,360
Speaker 6: of the Dodgers, former Dodger. He hit a Grand Slam

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Speaker 6: as part of a six run third inning, and we

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Speaker 6: got a couple of games going on. The Blue Jays

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Speaker 6: lead the d Backs five to two in the eighth inning.

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01:06:03,240 --> 01:06:05,680
Speaker 6: Rangers on top of the Guardians to nothing in the

1306
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Speaker 6: six Earlier today, Cleveland pitcher Shane Bieber was placed on

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01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:13,400
Speaker 6: the fifteen day injured list with right elbow inflammation. Had

1308
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Speaker 6: an upset for the Wimbledon Women's Championship, marquetev Androseva over

1309
01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:20,680
Speaker 6: a Jebur straight sets for her first major title.

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Speaker 2: She's the first.

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Speaker 6: Unseeded woman to ever win Wimbledon men's final. Tomorrow, you

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01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:28,680
Speaker 6: got Novak Djokovic against Carlos al Karez, Djokovic going for

1313
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Speaker 6: his fifth straight Wimbledon title, eighth overall and Grand Slam

1314
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Speaker 6: title number twenty four. Finally, in Golfroy McRoy the one

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Speaker 6: shot lead at the end of the third round of

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Speaker 6: the Scottish Open, and we got the American Century Championship

1317
01:06:40,640 --> 01:06:43,280
Speaker 6: in Tahoe. Steph Curry still at the top of the leaderboard.

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Speaker 6: He had a hole in one earlier today, the second

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Speaker 6: one he said he's ever hit.

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Speaker 2: Back to you, guys, how many holds some one have

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01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:52,800
Speaker 2: you had Nick over the years? Oh boy? Too many? Zero?

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, knock zero yeah yeah zero. I came close.

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01:06:59,800 --> 01:07:03,720
Speaker 2: I'm I mean, like literally less than an inch away,

1324
01:07:04,120 --> 01:07:07,920
Speaker 2: like one more role so close, oh so close.

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Speaker 7: All right.

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Speaker 2: We are broadcasting live from the Tirech dot Com studios

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Speaker 2: here on Fox Sports Saturday. So I want to get

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Speaker 2: back to your comment about money isn't everything? Perhaps for

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Speaker 2: show hey o Tani. So we have two great examples

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Speaker 2: of two of the most dominant athletes in their sport

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Speaker 2: ever never being the highest paid player in their sport,

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Speaker 2: and that would be Tom Brady and that would be

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Speaker 2: Lebron James. I mean, when Lebron left Cleveland the first

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Speaker 2: time to go to Miami, he had the equal pay

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Speaker 2: of Chris Bosh and Dwayne Wade. They made the exact

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Speaker 2: same salary. At no point has he ever been the

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Speaker 2: highest paid player. I also remember a conversation I had

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Speaker 2: with Kobe Bryant when he signed his last deal, which

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Speaker 2: temporarily made him the highest paid player I think was

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Speaker 2: twenty five million at the time, after he blew his

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01:07:57,720 --> 01:08:02,400
Speaker 2: achilles and I asked him, I said, would you ever

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Speaker 2: take less money to free up money because you have

1343
01:08:05,120 --> 01:08:09,640
Speaker 2: a cap situation to get other talent? And his response

1344
01:08:09,800 --> 01:08:15,240
Speaker 2: was very straightforward, he goes, that's not my problem. And

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01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:19,720
Speaker 2: some ways, if you think about Tom Brady, and I

1346
01:08:19,800 --> 01:08:24,160
Speaker 2: think you would acknowledge he's the goat based on his resume.

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Speaker 2: It almost does a disservice for everyone else. In other words,

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Speaker 2: if you're the best at what you do and you

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Speaker 2: don't take top dollar, there's a trickle down effect. Yes,

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01:08:36,439 --> 01:08:38,920
Speaker 2: so it will affect everybody. So if he's going to

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Speaker 2: take less money as we keep going down, that means

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Speaker 2: I'm going to get less money. But these are rare

1353
01:08:46,200 --> 01:08:53,400
Speaker 2: exceptions men that are driven not necessarily by dollars and cents,

1354
01:08:54,800 --> 01:09:01,080
Speaker 2: but just that competitive I got to win a spirit

1355
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Speaker 2: and I don't know where it is. Baseball to me

1356
01:09:04,200 --> 01:09:08,160
Speaker 2: seems different than other sports in that way. But you

1357
01:09:08,280 --> 01:09:10,959
Speaker 2: get a sense from your observations, So show hey Otani

1358
01:09:11,080 --> 01:09:13,920
Speaker 2: that maybe it's just not going to be whoever throws

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Speaker 2: the most money on the table. I do. I get that.

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Speaker 3: I get that from him. I just from the the

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Speaker 3: comments you made prior. You know, he says he's want

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Speaker 3: he wants to get away from teams that has that

1363
01:09:24,600 --> 01:09:28,000
Speaker 3: spotlight on them, right, So just from those comments alone,

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Speaker 3: but also just seeing him. He's like a little kid

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Speaker 3: out there. He's such a joyous player to watch, not

1366
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Speaker 3: even just the stuff that he does on the field,

1367
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Speaker 3: just he has this glow about him that really exudes.

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Speaker 3: He's doing this because he loves a game. I never

1369
01:09:44,320 --> 01:09:48,080
Speaker 3: get the sense that he's out there trying to do anything.

1370
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Speaker 3: He's in the moment, which is the best thing to be.

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01:09:51,040 --> 01:09:53,920
Speaker 3: He's in the moment of playing professional baseball, living out

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Speaker 3: his dream, doing it at doing it's at any elite level, obviously,

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Speaker 3: but it's just this a sense of calm, and I

1374
01:10:01,400 --> 01:10:04,680
Speaker 3: think the money situation won't be the thing that moves him.

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Speaker 2: You played in the biggest market in New York. Yep.

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Speaker 2: He also played in a smaller market. I surely did. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm sure that was quite an adjustment going from the

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Speaker 2: Jets of the Cardinals. Not everybody's cut out for the

1379
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Speaker 2: big markets. It doesn't mean they're any lesser of a player.

1380
01:10:22,479 --> 01:10:25,280
Speaker 2: Look at Mike trout Right, I mean he's very comfortable

1381
01:10:25,360 --> 01:10:28,360
Speaker 2: staying in an Angels uniform. He's never won a playoff game.

1382
01:10:29,080 --> 01:10:30,760
Speaker 2: He'll be a first ballot Hall of Famer, one of

1383
01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:33,040
Speaker 2: the all time greats. Unfortunately he's had a lot of

1384
01:10:33,080 --> 01:10:36,439
Speaker 2: injuries in recent years. He could have gotten more money.

1385
01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:39,160
Speaker 2: I knew Tony Gwynn, the late great Tony Gwinn in

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01:10:39,240 --> 01:10:43,439
Speaker 2: San Diego, had so many opportunities. Teams would have killed

1387
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Speaker 2: for an eight time batting champion. No, I'm good, yeah,

1388
01:10:47,439 --> 01:10:49,240
Speaker 2: you know, And this is why I thought Damian Luller

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Speaker 2: was the same way. You know, I don't need to

1390
01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:55,400
Speaker 2: play for the Lakers. I don't need to play for

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Speaker 2: you know, I'm good in Portland rights. I was a

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Speaker 2: little shocked by those. And again, I don't know how

1393
01:11:01,960 --> 01:11:05,559
Speaker 2: hell bent he is really now to go elsewhere.

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Speaker 3: How much do you put on us and people in

1395
01:11:08,320 --> 01:11:11,719
Speaker 3: the media, you know, changing the narrative for him, because

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01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:14,680
Speaker 3: all we talk about now is winning, winning championships, and

1397
01:11:14,720 --> 01:11:16,880
Speaker 3: how much that matters. How much do you think that's

1398
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Speaker 3: changed him?

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Speaker 2: Do you look differently at players that are able to

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Speaker 2: excel under the brightest spotlights of big cities. Are they

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01:11:27,560 --> 01:11:34,479
Speaker 2: viewed differently than equal stars in smaller markets? Yeah, yeah,

1402
01:11:34,640 --> 01:11:36,760
Speaker 2: for sure. I mean planning in New York market.

1403
01:11:36,520 --> 01:11:39,080
Speaker 3: We got Aaron Rodgers now going from Green Bay to

1404
01:11:39,160 --> 01:11:43,439
Speaker 3: New York and automatically he's out there more, right, you

1405
01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:46,600
Speaker 3: see his face more everywhere. That's just part of the

1406
01:11:46,720 --> 01:11:48,680
Speaker 3: lure of being in those cities, right, you get this

1407
01:11:49,479 --> 01:11:52,519
Speaker 3: access to things that obviously he gets access to everything.

1408
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Speaker 3: But when you're an athlete that moves to New York

1409
01:11:54,960 --> 01:11:57,600
Speaker 3: and get that spotlight on you. There, the people that

1410
01:11:57,960 --> 01:12:00,479
Speaker 3: are surrounding you, the things that are given to you,

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01:12:00,600 --> 01:12:03,519
Speaker 3: and those positions are just they're different. You can't really

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Speaker 3: compute them by being in smaller markets.

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Speaker 2: How much how much of a star was Joe name

1414
01:12:08,400 --> 01:12:10,519
Speaker 2: us still when you were with the Jets, when I.

1415
01:12:10,640 --> 01:12:12,519
Speaker 3: Was with the Jets, I mean, it was still about Joe.

1416
01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:16,960
Speaker 3: He's the one that brought brought me later, it doesn't matter. Well,

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01:12:17,080 --> 01:12:21,080
Speaker 3: that's that's all we have. Exactly, he's the guy. Well

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01:12:21,120 --> 01:12:23,400
Speaker 3: when he because I know he would visit, right, he

1419
01:12:23,400 --> 01:12:24,000
Speaker 3: would come around.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. I mean is there's still that aura? Yeah, yes,

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01:12:28,000 --> 01:12:29,800
Speaker 2: even for us. I mean we look at Joe. I

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01:12:29,880 --> 01:12:30,680
Speaker 2: mean we know Joe.

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01:12:30,760 --> 01:12:32,680
Speaker 3: I mean Joe went to Alabama obviously in the time

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Speaker 3: in Alabama native as well, So even my time.

1425
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Speaker 2: Did you ever share some acting for stuff?

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Speaker 4: I did not.

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Speaker 2: Have you ever seen Joe's acting any of his acts?

1428
01:12:41,560 --> 01:12:43,400
Speaker 2: I have not seen any of his acting stuff. Was

1429
01:12:43,439 --> 01:12:43,760
Speaker 2: it bad?

1430
01:12:44,080 --> 01:12:44,280
Speaker 7: Well?

1431
01:12:44,760 --> 01:12:47,080
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, he did. He did a movie. It

1432
01:12:47,200 --> 01:12:50,000
Speaker 2: was like a motorcycle movie. Do you remember this Iowa, Sam.

1433
01:12:50,080 --> 01:12:52,800
Speaker 2: It was a movie he did with Anne Margaret. It

1434
01:12:52,960 --> 01:12:58,280
Speaker 2: was like he was a biker or something like this, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1435
01:12:58,520 --> 01:12:59,920
Speaker 2: good hair. I don't thank you. I don't think of

1436
01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:03,360
Speaker 2: pretty good. I can tell something like that.

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Speaker 1: All right.

1438
01:13:04,520 --> 01:13:06,840
Speaker 2: Coming up on the other side, we got a few

1439
01:13:06,920 --> 01:13:09,400
Speaker 2: other things I got to get to over the course

1440
01:13:09,439 --> 01:13:13,360
Speaker 2: of the day, including another NBA story that well, you'll

1441
01:13:13,360 --> 01:13:17,800
Speaker 2: figure it out. This is Fox Sports Saturday, all right,

1442
01:13:17,880 --> 01:13:20,679
Speaker 2: we figured it out. CC and Company is the infamous

1443
01:13:20,840 --> 01:13:24,719
Speaker 2: nineteen seventy movie that Joe Nama did with the beautiful

1444
01:13:24,800 --> 01:13:27,600
Speaker 2: Anne Margaret. What he was in the middle of his

1445
01:13:27,880 --> 01:13:31,360
Speaker 2: NFL career. I mean, this is not after his NFL

1446
01:13:31,439 --> 01:13:34,360
Speaker 2: Career's in the middle of his NFL career. By the way,

1447
01:13:34,400 --> 01:13:37,760
Speaker 2: this is Fox Sports Saturday. Steve Hartman carry roads with

1448
01:13:37,880 --> 01:13:40,600
Speaker 2: you here in the tire rack dot Com studios. I

1449
01:13:40,760 --> 01:13:43,880
Speaker 2: just showed Carrie a photo from that movie. It was

1450
01:13:43,920 --> 01:13:47,320
Speaker 2: hot and he sort of looked like an actor. He

1451
01:13:47,439 --> 01:13:50,000
Speaker 2: looked like he he looked like he did the part

1452
01:13:50,200 --> 01:13:53,840
Speaker 2: really well in the picture exactly. He knew how to

1453
01:13:53,960 --> 01:13:57,479
Speaker 2: pose with Ann Margaret. Of course all eyes are on her.

1454
01:13:57,720 --> 01:14:03,320
Speaker 2: But nonetheless, yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, how is your acting career?

1455
01:14:04,040 --> 01:14:06,760
Speaker 2: My acting career is doing nothing at the moment. With

1456
01:14:06,840 --> 01:14:09,920
Speaker 2: the strike, I was gonna say this is Amlio. My

1457
01:14:10,400 --> 01:14:15,759
Speaker 2: oldest son is working with Bad Robot YEP and Production.

1458
01:14:15,880 --> 01:14:17,960
Speaker 2: He's doing behind the scenes work and everything. So he

1459
01:14:18,240 --> 01:14:20,800
Speaker 2: he's a movie guy like my younger son is the

1460
01:14:20,840 --> 01:14:23,960
Speaker 2: sports guy. Like dad. My dad worked in the movie industry.

1461
01:14:24,000 --> 01:14:25,960
Speaker 2: My dad was a sound effects editor at twenty Century

1462
01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:28,519
Speaker 2: Fox Studios for thirty two years. I grew up on

1463
01:14:28,600 --> 01:14:31,680
Speaker 2: that lot. But anyway, Yeah, how's this going right now?

1464
01:14:31,800 --> 01:14:33,920
Speaker 2: Is first you have the writer's strike the writer. Now

1465
01:14:33,960 --> 01:14:35,439
Speaker 2: you got the actors stro well, now you've got the

1466
01:14:35,800 --> 01:14:39,000
Speaker 2: actual the Are we going to see any movies coming

1467
01:14:39,080 --> 01:14:41,439
Speaker 2: up anytime soon? Yes, because they already had a few

1468
01:14:41,680 --> 01:14:44,360
Speaker 2: in the chamber. Yeah, well, I know Oppenheimer's coming out

1469
01:14:44,840 --> 01:14:48,040
Speaker 2: coming out next week, and Mission Impossible is out. Everything

1470
01:14:48,040 --> 01:14:49,360
Speaker 2: else is going to be shut down for it's going

1471
01:14:49,400 --> 01:14:50,280
Speaker 2: to be shut down for a while.

1472
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Speaker 3: I think this whole conversation around AI and and you know,

1473
01:14:54,640 --> 01:14:57,040
Speaker 3: actually getting our residuals in the stuff that we need

1474
01:14:57,960 --> 01:15:01,360
Speaker 3: with the streaming services is just it's an impossible thing

1475
01:15:01,439 --> 01:15:02,639
Speaker 3: to kind of knock into.

1476
01:15:02,720 --> 01:15:06,559
Speaker 2: You can't. It's it's so hard to do. Bob Iiker

1477
01:15:06,600 --> 01:15:10,640
Speaker 2: obviously has had a very successful career. Oh so he

1478
01:15:11,120 --> 01:15:14,920
Speaker 2: he he actually made a comment the other day that

1479
01:15:15,720 --> 01:15:18,080
Speaker 2: if I were an actor or anybody in the industry,

1480
01:15:18,080 --> 01:15:22,040
Speaker 2: I like, really, he said, about the writers and the actors,

1481
01:15:22,240 --> 01:15:25,320
Speaker 2: this is not a good time to go on strike.

1482
01:15:25,760 --> 01:15:27,559
Speaker 2: This is a guy who, in the last two years

1483
01:15:27,600 --> 01:15:32,760
Speaker 2: after coming out of retirement, has collected fifty four million dollars. Yep,

1484
01:15:33,840 --> 01:15:36,920
Speaker 2: so he's collected fifty four and his salary I think

1485
01:15:37,040 --> 01:15:40,720
Speaker 2: is a million like that, that's his salary. But then

1486
01:15:40,760 --> 01:15:45,000
Speaker 2: it's all the you know. Yeah, So for him to

1487
01:15:45,080 --> 01:15:48,760
Speaker 2: say this is not a good time to be complaining

1488
01:15:48,840 --> 01:15:53,200
Speaker 2: about how much money you're making. Boy, that sounds like

1489
01:15:53,360 --> 01:15:56,240
Speaker 2: someone that out of touch, really out of touch, out

1490
01:15:56,280 --> 01:15:56,599
Speaker 2: of touch.

1491
01:15:57,720 --> 01:16:00,680
Speaker 3: There was a little bit more of that of that

1492
01:16:00,800 --> 01:16:05,640
Speaker 3: statement as well, and he was saying, we're going to

1493
01:16:05,680 --> 01:16:09,400
Speaker 3: allow these actors and writers to lose their houses and

1494
01:16:09,439 --> 01:16:13,879
Speaker 3: their jobs, Like this is something coming from the CEO

1495
01:16:14,720 --> 01:16:15,479
Speaker 3: over at Disney.

1496
01:16:15,600 --> 01:16:17,559
Speaker 2: What does a CEO do? I don't know what he does.

1497
01:16:18,000 --> 01:16:19,920
Speaker 2: I don't know. He just gets I think he does

1498
01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:22,000
Speaker 2: it up. What it thumbs down. That's pretty much it.

1499
01:16:22,080 --> 01:16:24,519
Speaker 2: That's it, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, not much. By the way,

1500
01:16:24,560 --> 01:16:27,360
Speaker 2: the last seven Disney movies have lost about eight hundred

1501
01:16:27,439 --> 01:16:30,040
Speaker 2: haven't been good, have not been good. A lot of

1502
01:16:30,080 --> 01:16:34,599
Speaker 2: thumbs up, but he didn't get a contract extension. Oh yeah,

1503
01:16:34,720 --> 01:16:37,360
Speaker 2: I saw that. Yeah, I saw run Ron was very

1504
01:16:38,479 --> 01:16:43,080
Speaker 2: very scary with his address. He was like, whoever that

1505
01:16:43,200 --> 01:16:45,920
Speaker 2: guy is? Who said and it was that voice. It

1506
01:16:46,000 --> 01:16:49,599
Speaker 2: was very scary. It was it was one of those things.

1507
01:16:49,840 --> 01:16:53,599
Speaker 2: I don't know, it's it's what is I mean? Seriously,

1508
01:16:53,760 --> 01:16:56,640
Speaker 2: I mean been you know, in the NFL as a

1509
01:16:56,720 --> 01:16:59,760
Speaker 2: professional athlete, and and now in the entertainment fields and

1510
01:17:00,320 --> 01:17:06,760
Speaker 2: writer and everything else. What is a greater challenge? Oh?

1511
01:17:07,080 --> 01:17:11,880
Speaker 2: This one, the second act is just so hard. You

1512
01:17:11,960 --> 01:17:13,720
Speaker 2: can be talented, you can have all the things in

1513
01:17:13,800 --> 01:17:16,280
Speaker 2: your favor you. I mean, we talk about athletes going

1514
01:17:16,320 --> 01:17:18,679
Speaker 2: to get paid. I mean I just mentioned Bob Iger

1515
01:17:18,680 --> 01:17:20,800
Speaker 2: because he's been in the news, but he's no different

1516
01:17:20,840 --> 01:17:24,599
Speaker 2: than an owner of a team, right, I mean, if

1517
01:17:24,600 --> 01:17:26,880
Speaker 2: they're complaining about how much money they got to pay

1518
01:17:26,960 --> 01:17:29,720
Speaker 2: guys or this, that and everything else. And meanwhile, every

1519
01:17:29,800 --> 01:17:31,840
Speaker 2: every owner in this league, just by the nature of

1520
01:17:31,920 --> 01:17:33,840
Speaker 2: owning a team is a billionaire. Yeah.

1521
01:17:34,240 --> 01:17:37,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess there's some similarities there, Yes, but I

1522
01:17:37,680 --> 01:17:41,040
Speaker 3: think even in the in the league, in sports, right,

1523
01:17:41,240 --> 01:17:45,040
Speaker 3: you have these you have the SAG afters. You have

1524
01:17:45,200 --> 01:17:47,560
Speaker 3: the groups that are coming to the table trying to

1525
01:17:47,560 --> 01:17:50,640
Speaker 3: get improvements for the players and you know, to make

1526
01:17:50,880 --> 01:17:53,559
Speaker 3: the wages a little bit more fatter for for all involved.

1527
01:17:54,120 --> 01:17:56,519
Speaker 3: And we've seen that work in the NFL. We've seen

1528
01:17:56,560 --> 01:17:59,560
Speaker 3: that work in acting at one point as well. But

1529
01:17:59,640 --> 01:18:02,639
Speaker 3: now with gotten to this point where the streaming services

1530
01:18:02,680 --> 01:18:07,160
Speaker 3: are are the big issue because you can't count that revenue.

1531
01:18:07,439 --> 01:18:09,479
Speaker 3: So the shows that we were making in the past

1532
01:18:09,920 --> 01:18:12,760
Speaker 3: on TV getting those residual checks every time it was

1533
01:18:12,800 --> 01:18:17,320
Speaker 3: being shown, or you know, profiting the CEOs and Disney,

1534
01:18:17,560 --> 01:18:20,240
Speaker 3: we were getting profits as well. Now now with this

1535
01:18:20,320 --> 01:18:23,120
Speaker 3: streaming thing, you can't correlate it. So we got to

1536
01:18:23,120 --> 01:18:25,160
Speaker 3: figure this out. And and for him to say that it.

1537
01:18:25,200 --> 01:18:28,360
Speaker 2: Was just very they were just so out of touch

1538
01:18:29,160 --> 01:18:31,680
Speaker 2: and so privileged. Well, I know, I know why he

1539
01:18:31,920 --> 01:18:36,200
Speaker 2: said it. In other words, you know, you guys shut down.

1540
01:18:36,280 --> 01:18:42,519
Speaker 2: Everyone's affected by this except except you. You're still gonna

1541
01:18:42,560 --> 01:18:45,639
Speaker 2: make your money. He's gonna and so that's that's why

1542
01:18:45,720 --> 01:18:48,840
Speaker 2: it was a little I don't know, it's very frustrating. Hey, quickly,

1543
01:18:48,960 --> 01:18:51,920
Speaker 2: I wanted to follow up on Damian Lila for a second. Yeah,

1544
01:18:53,040 --> 01:18:55,599
Speaker 2: because you mentioned James Harden as well a little bit earlier.

1545
01:18:55,640 --> 01:18:58,760
Speaker 2: Who you know, he keeps demanding trades and he keeps

1546
01:18:58,840 --> 01:19:01,040
Speaker 2: getting traded, and every team he goes to it's about

1547
01:19:01,040 --> 01:19:04,479
Speaker 2: the same. It's no reflection on his talent. Obviously has talent.

1548
01:19:05,080 --> 01:19:07,479
Speaker 2: But if you're the Los Angeles Clippers, because they've been

1549
01:19:07,560 --> 01:19:10,920
Speaker 2: linked in possible trade talks with both Damian Lillard and

1550
01:19:11,120 --> 01:19:16,280
Speaker 2: James Harden, just from a basketball standpoint, with Paul George

1551
01:19:16,320 --> 01:19:18,400
Speaker 2: and Kawhi Leonard, who do you think would be a

1552
01:19:18,439 --> 01:19:22,080
Speaker 2: better fit for that team? I think it's Damian Lillard. Yeah.

1553
01:19:22,280 --> 01:19:26,400
Speaker 3: I think with Paul George and Kawhi's history of being injured,

1554
01:19:26,880 --> 01:19:28,680
Speaker 3: if one of those guys were to go down a

1555
01:19:28,720 --> 01:19:32,920
Speaker 3: little bit, Damian Lillard can carry that torch and be

1556
01:19:33,000 --> 01:19:35,479
Speaker 3: the league guy. James Harden right now, I just don't

1557
01:19:35,479 --> 01:19:37,759
Speaker 3: think he can be that league guy anymore. So adding

1558
01:19:37,840 --> 01:19:40,920
Speaker 3: him to that mix with those two being injured, he'll

1559
01:19:40,960 --> 01:19:43,599
Speaker 3: be fine. He'll keep the team moving, but he doesn't

1560
01:19:43,640 --> 01:19:44,160
Speaker 3: move the needle.

1561
01:19:44,240 --> 01:19:46,760
Speaker 2: All right. So let's say the choir Damian Lillard eighty

1562
01:19:46,800 --> 01:19:49,240
Speaker 2: two game regular season. How many games are the eighty two?

1563
01:19:49,280 --> 01:19:50,680
Speaker 2: Do you think all three of those guys will be

1564
01:19:50,760 --> 01:19:56,320
Speaker 2: on the court together forty seven. That might be an exaggeration.

1565
01:19:56,840 --> 01:19:59,479
Speaker 2: That might be an exaggeration. Are you a fan by

1566
01:19:59,479 --> 01:20:02,800
Speaker 2: the way of the season tournament? No? Okay, I want

1567
01:20:02,840 --> 01:20:04,920
Speaker 2: to get into that coming up because this is this

1568
01:20:05,040 --> 01:20:08,080
Speaker 2: is one of the most far fetched desperation ideas, and

1569
01:20:08,200 --> 01:20:11,680
Speaker 2: I mean desperation that I've ever heard. Why Because the

1570
01:20:11,840 --> 01:20:14,760
Speaker 2: NBA recognizes the NFL rules the world.

1571
01:20:14,800 --> 01:20:15,240
Speaker 4: We'll roll on.

1572
01:20:15,360 --> 01:20:17,560
Speaker 2: We got much more coming up. Stay with us. This

1573
01:20:17,920 --> 01:20:19,120
Speaker 2: is Fox Sports Saturday.

1574
01:20:19,720 --> 01:20:22,600
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1575
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1577
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1578
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Speaker 2: we're off air. We're just sharing some stories. This is

1585
01:20:56,720 --> 01:20:59,720
Speaker 2: one thing about advancing years like me, you know you

1586
01:21:00,640 --> 01:21:03,960
Speaker 2: memories of are you? Are you a nostalgia guy. Do

1587
01:21:04,040 --> 01:21:06,680
Speaker 2: you do you are you a history guy at all?

1588
01:21:06,880 --> 01:21:10,160
Speaker 2: I am yeah, I am yeah. I think. I mean

1589
01:21:10,240 --> 01:21:12,479
Speaker 2: like for movies. I mean, do you sit there with

1590
01:21:12,600 --> 01:21:14,920
Speaker 2: Turner Classic and watch old movies? I watch all the

1591
01:21:14,920 --> 01:21:16,920
Speaker 2: old movies. One of my favorite movies of all time.

1592
01:21:17,040 --> 01:21:19,400
Speaker 2: We were talking about Horror off off the air a

1593
01:21:19,400 --> 01:21:22,479
Speaker 2: little bit, but the Bad Seed. Do you remember the

1594
01:21:22,520 --> 01:21:26,160
Speaker 2: Bad with the little Girl? Yes, the little girl like

1595
01:21:26,760 --> 01:21:29,320
Speaker 2: at the end of that movie is unbelievable. It's so good.

1596
01:21:29,840 --> 01:21:31,799
Speaker 2: In the end of the Classic, I got the actual

1597
01:21:32,600 --> 01:21:34,920
Speaker 2: reimagine of that with color. I got in the color

1598
01:21:34,960 --> 01:21:37,240
Speaker 2: as well, so I got that imagine. The actress Patty

1599
01:21:37,320 --> 01:21:39,680
Speaker 2: McCormick who played the little girl, she's still alive. She

1600
01:21:39,800 --> 01:21:43,160
Speaker 2: was I think eleven years old. If you had a child,

1601
01:21:43,280 --> 01:21:45,960
Speaker 2: like we were talking about The Exorcist, my father actually

1602
01:21:46,040 --> 01:21:50,479
Speaker 2: worked on that. And you know, Linda Blair a role

1603
01:21:50,640 --> 01:21:54,600
Speaker 2: like that for a child, I don't know, I know,

1604
01:21:54,800 --> 01:21:58,360
Speaker 2: I mean, and Patty was so good at it, really good.

1605
01:21:58,640 --> 01:22:00,840
Speaker 2: It was very little. I'm native on an Oscar for

1606
01:22:00,960 --> 01:22:03,200
Speaker 2: she was nominated for Best Supporting Actress. So it was

1607
01:22:03,240 --> 01:22:05,920
Speaker 2: Linda Blair for the Exers exactly. It's a child. I

1608
01:22:06,000 --> 01:22:08,600
Speaker 2: mean it's like it's weird. I don't know, it just

1609
01:22:08,960 --> 01:22:15,000
Speaker 2: it seems strange to me. The whole child actor situation.

1610
01:22:15,600 --> 01:22:17,479
Speaker 2: Child acting is really difficult.

1611
01:22:17,640 --> 01:22:22,120
Speaker 3: You get put into these unbelievable situations where you can

1612
01:22:22,200 --> 01:22:25,040
Speaker 3: thrive and you can have success and and really do

1613
01:22:25,240 --> 01:22:27,880
Speaker 3: the craft in the art, which you know it's part

1614
01:22:28,240 --> 01:22:31,280
Speaker 3: while they're there, But then you get down these avenues

1615
01:22:31,360 --> 01:22:35,400
Speaker 3: of losing touch with reality, especially at that age when you're.

1616
01:22:35,360 --> 01:22:38,800
Speaker 2: Now there's nothing real, nothing in a movie or a

1617
01:22:38,920 --> 01:22:41,280
Speaker 2: TV show, nothing real about it. And when I was

1618
01:22:41,400 --> 01:22:43,679
Speaker 2: when I was a kid, a lot of the members

1619
01:22:43,840 --> 01:22:48,040
Speaker 2: of the Brady Bunch and Partridge family were in my schools.

1620
01:22:49,120 --> 01:22:52,360
Speaker 2: I mean, Danny Bonaducci lived literally up the street from

1621
01:22:52,439 --> 01:22:55,080
Speaker 2: me I lived. I lived over by the Brady Bunch

1622
01:22:55,120 --> 01:22:57,640
Speaker 2: house for a little Marie McCormick, Marsha Brady, she was

1623
01:22:57,640 --> 01:22:59,400
Speaker 2: two years ahead of me when I went to junior

1624
01:22:59,479 --> 01:23:03,080
Speaker 2: high school there she was imagine, I think she was

1625
01:23:03,200 --> 01:23:06,000
Speaker 2: ninth grade, like fourteen years old, and I'm twelve years old.

1626
01:23:06,160 --> 01:23:08,160
Speaker 2: You know, you know what a twelve year old boy

1627
01:23:08,240 --> 01:23:10,760
Speaker 2: to see Marshall Brady, you were pretty exciting. My head

1628
01:23:10,880 --> 01:23:14,559
Speaker 2: was spinning, like she is the most beautiful fourteen year

1629
01:23:14,560 --> 01:23:15,719
Speaker 2: old I've ever seen in my life.

1630
01:23:17,080 --> 01:23:18,920
Speaker 4: No, it is.

1631
01:23:20,400 --> 01:23:22,680
Speaker 2: People have to understand this. Like my dad worked in

1632
01:23:22,760 --> 01:23:25,280
Speaker 2: the movie industry, and I have a son that's working

1633
01:23:25,280 --> 01:23:26,920
Speaker 2: in the movie industry, and I have another son that's

1634
01:23:26,960 --> 01:23:29,800
Speaker 2: in the sports. It's all entertainment. How much How much

1635
01:23:29,880 --> 01:23:34,200
Speaker 2: of that were you aware because obviously you had the

1636
01:23:34,439 --> 01:23:37,960
Speaker 2: entertainment gene. You mentioned the fact earlier that you were

1637
01:23:38,000 --> 01:23:41,680
Speaker 2: already writing your own one person place when you were

1638
01:23:41,800 --> 01:23:45,720
Speaker 2: like in junior high school. Exactly how where were you

1639
01:23:45,920 --> 01:23:50,920
Speaker 2: that as an athlete that part of your job is

1640
01:23:51,280 --> 01:23:54,080
Speaker 2: entertainer because we hear that. I remember the great stories

1641
01:23:54,080 --> 01:23:56,920
Speaker 2: about Pete Merrivitch. You know, he never he that was

1642
01:23:57,000 --> 01:24:00,560
Speaker 2: his style of play. I am here to inner retain you.

1643
01:24:01,040 --> 01:24:03,320
Speaker 2: It may not be the best thing for my team,

1644
01:24:04,000 --> 01:24:07,200
Speaker 2: but you're paying money to see me do my thing,

1645
01:24:07,400 --> 01:24:10,200
Speaker 2: and I'm doing my thing. Oh that's that's interesting. I

1646
01:24:10,280 --> 01:24:13,840
Speaker 2: think as you master your craft, you can do that. Yeah,

1647
01:24:14,000 --> 01:24:15,960
Speaker 2: some people innately have that, like you just said, Pete

1648
01:24:15,960 --> 01:24:18,400
Speaker 2: probably will. Deon Sanders, let's go back to d yes

1649
01:24:18,720 --> 01:24:22,040
Speaker 2: for sure. Yeah, one hundred percent entertainer, but really good

1650
01:24:22,080 --> 01:24:24,680
Speaker 2: at this craft. Yes, So that's the point, right, it

1651
01:24:24,760 --> 01:24:25,639
Speaker 2: is it with anything.

1652
01:24:25,920 --> 01:24:28,040
Speaker 3: The time you put in your craft and get better

1653
01:24:28,080 --> 01:24:31,000
Speaker 3: at it, then you can have that those other things

1654
01:24:31,080 --> 01:24:33,479
Speaker 3: pop off and be you know the side, the side thing,

1655
01:24:33,920 --> 01:24:34,759
Speaker 3: the side attraction.

1656
01:24:34,920 --> 01:24:36,960
Speaker 2: But if you're not good at it, you're not entertaining.

1657
01:24:37,120 --> 01:24:40,720
Speaker 2: Well look, you're you're a defensive back, right and you're

1658
01:24:40,760 --> 01:24:46,800
Speaker 2: going against the divas of the NFL wide receivers divas too. Yeah. Well, okay,

1659
01:24:47,600 --> 01:24:50,000
Speaker 2: well I'll say that I just mentioned Dion Sanders. I

1660
01:24:50,080 --> 01:24:51,400
Speaker 2: mean there's been a few of them out there, but

1661
01:24:51,560 --> 01:24:57,400
Speaker 2: wide receivers are notorious for sure. Okay. Is that did

1662
01:24:57,439 --> 01:25:00,120
Speaker 2: that add to the challenge for you? I mean, do

1663
01:25:00,160 --> 01:25:02,519
Speaker 2: you want to shut these guys up? I mean, how

1664
01:25:02,600 --> 01:25:06,600
Speaker 2: does that play if you've got a Chadow Chosenko or

1665
01:25:06,760 --> 01:25:09,920
Speaker 2: you got you know, one of the TEO or someone

1666
01:25:10,120 --> 01:25:13,639
Speaker 2: like that that wants all the attention on themselves. Oh yeah,

1667
01:25:13,680 --> 01:25:14,920
Speaker 2: that's motivation throughout the week.

1668
01:25:14,960 --> 01:25:17,000
Speaker 3: I mean, especially a guy like Chad So I've played

1669
01:25:17,080 --> 01:25:20,600
Speaker 3: chatting quite a bit during the week. He would do

1670
01:25:20,840 --> 01:25:23,680
Speaker 3: silly stuff as far as he would poke the bear

1671
01:25:23,840 --> 01:25:27,880
Speaker 3: so to speak. Obviously, send letters, He'll say little things

1672
01:25:27,920 --> 01:25:31,320
Speaker 3: in the media about each DB's playing that week, and

1673
01:25:31,439 --> 01:25:34,200
Speaker 3: so like he was always ribbing at us, and I

1674
01:25:34,280 --> 01:25:38,120
Speaker 3: remember we played them in nine. If they would have

1675
01:25:38,160 --> 01:25:41,080
Speaker 3: beat us, they had a decision to make it rather

1676
01:25:41,439 --> 01:25:43,600
Speaker 3: sit their players or play to win that game, they

1677
01:25:43,640 --> 01:25:47,320
Speaker 3: were already locked up their playoff seed. They decided to

1678
01:25:47,360 --> 01:25:49,200
Speaker 3: play their players in like the first quarter and just

1679
01:25:49,320 --> 01:25:52,240
Speaker 3: kind of yeah, you know, fan out and then just

1680
01:25:52,360 --> 01:25:55,640
Speaker 3: let the game go how it goes. But before he

1681
01:25:55,720 --> 01:25:57,759
Speaker 3: went out, I remember him talking that week about Rebus,

1682
01:25:57,840 --> 01:26:00,920
Speaker 3: so I made it a conscious to give him a

1683
01:26:01,000 --> 01:26:03,280
Speaker 3: nice little shot. He ran like a little, nice little

1684
01:26:03,320 --> 01:26:06,519
Speaker 3: dig route in front of Rebas. I came down, smacked

1685
01:26:06,600 --> 01:26:09,719
Speaker 3: him really hard and just start talking and start talking

1686
01:26:09,760 --> 01:26:10,760
Speaker 3: mess to him, which is fun.

1687
01:26:10,840 --> 01:26:12,400
Speaker 2: I mean, he's my guy. It's fun.

1688
01:26:13,000 --> 01:26:17,320
Speaker 3: But they didn't beat us, and we beat them, and

1689
01:26:17,400 --> 01:26:19,840
Speaker 3: we had to play that next week the following week

1690
01:26:19,960 --> 01:26:23,920
Speaker 3: up in Cincinnati, first round the playoffs, and so you know,

1691
01:26:24,000 --> 01:26:25,320
Speaker 3: they had a chance to shut us up and beat

1692
01:26:25,400 --> 01:26:26,880
Speaker 3: us that next week, but we came back and beat

1693
01:26:26,960 --> 01:26:28,640
Speaker 3: him again the next week and sent them home. So

1694
01:26:29,160 --> 01:26:32,519
Speaker 3: if you play around with your food, there's trouble out there.

1695
01:26:32,640 --> 01:26:34,280
Speaker 3: It's kind of what we thought and when we saw it.

1696
01:26:35,479 --> 01:26:37,840
Speaker 2: You guys beat the Chargers and we beat the Charger

1697
01:26:37,880 --> 01:26:44,799
Speaker 2: staff following a week na one of the best kickers

1698
01:26:44,840 --> 01:26:47,640
Speaker 2: in the league. He could not make kicks in the playoffs.

1699
01:26:49,560 --> 01:26:52,760
Speaker 2: I mean that he missed, like he missed three three. Yeah,

1700
01:26:52,800 --> 01:26:55,800
Speaker 2: he missed three three and we won by three. Yeah.

1701
01:26:56,400 --> 01:27:01,240
Speaker 2: Mark Sanchez is someone that I actually he was introduced

1702
01:27:01,280 --> 01:27:07,400
Speaker 2: to by his mother. We were in Indianapolis. No, we

1703
01:27:07,479 --> 01:27:09,759
Speaker 2: were in Miami for the Super Bowl between the Colts

1704
01:27:09,800 --> 01:27:13,760
Speaker 2: and the Bears. So that was the six season and

1705
01:27:14,960 --> 01:27:19,040
Speaker 2: this woman walks up with her son in tow he

1706
01:27:19,280 --> 01:27:21,560
Speaker 2: was I think he was a red shirt freshman that

1707
01:27:21,640 --> 01:27:24,800
Speaker 2: year at USC and uh and I love Mark. I

1708
01:27:25,000 --> 01:27:27,719
Speaker 2: just absolutely love this guy. And we've we've laughed about

1709
01:27:27,720 --> 01:27:29,639
Speaker 2: this story many times because she's like, this is myself.

1710
01:27:29,680 --> 01:27:32,240
Speaker 2: I knew who he was obviously, obviously had heard of

1711
01:27:32,280 --> 01:27:35,080
Speaker 2: Mark Sanchez and everything. What was your view of Sanchez?

1712
01:27:35,200 --> 01:27:37,280
Speaker 2: Mark was my guy. It means a young guy obviously.

1713
01:27:37,439 --> 01:27:39,400
Speaker 2: I mean he goes to the AFC Championship game his

1714
01:27:39,520 --> 01:27:40,960
Speaker 2: first two in this first year, I mean he was

1715
01:27:41,160 --> 01:27:42,679
Speaker 2: four road playoff wins.

1716
01:27:43,080 --> 01:27:46,360
Speaker 3: Yes, he did not lose. And that's the crazy part

1717
01:27:46,479 --> 01:27:48,280
Speaker 3: in the in the beginning of his career, he did

1718
01:27:48,400 --> 01:27:50,759
Speaker 3: not lose games. He didn't he didn't make the mistakes,

1719
01:27:51,120 --> 01:27:54,720
Speaker 3: and I think as he as his role grew and

1720
01:27:55,040 --> 01:27:57,639
Speaker 3: more was expected from him, I think the outside noise,

1721
01:27:57,680 --> 01:27:59,639
Speaker 3: in the outside pressure of not putting up the gaudy

1722
01:27:59,720 --> 01:28:01,240
Speaker 3: number start to get to him a little bit.

1723
01:28:01,400 --> 01:28:04,400
Speaker 2: I thought that his development because he only had one

1724
01:28:04,800 --> 01:28:07,759
Speaker 2: year as a starter at USC And remember Pete Carroll

1725
01:28:07,880 --> 01:28:11,759
Speaker 2: was angry when he dopped it out. Yeah. I mean usually,

1726
01:28:11,840 --> 01:28:14,080
Speaker 2: you know, you have like a press conference to announce

1727
01:28:14,120 --> 01:28:17,679
Speaker 2: that our quarterback has decided to enter early, and here's

1728
01:28:17,720 --> 01:28:23,760
Speaker 2: your coach bad mouthing you. It's like, thanks coach. You know,

1729
01:28:23,880 --> 01:28:26,960
Speaker 2: he's fifth overall picking the draft. Obviously he made he

1730
01:28:27,040 --> 01:28:30,000
Speaker 2: made the right position, absolutely made the right decision, right,

1731
01:28:31,200 --> 01:28:32,880
Speaker 2: I don't know, it just it just you know, it's

1732
01:28:32,960 --> 01:28:36,479
Speaker 2: like they're like Mark Chance, Mark Sanchez, but fumble I

1733
01:28:36,520 --> 01:28:39,040
Speaker 2: remember that. I'm like, have you forgotten this guy was

1734
01:28:39,120 --> 01:28:41,639
Speaker 2: foreign on Brooke playoff wins in his first two years

1735
01:28:41,680 --> 01:28:44,120
Speaker 2: in the NFL. No, it's all, no one's ever done that.

1736
01:28:44,320 --> 01:28:45,120
Speaker 2: It's all. It's all.

1737
01:28:45,360 --> 01:28:47,200
Speaker 3: It's all the bad stuff that people want to look

1738
01:28:47,200 --> 01:28:49,560
Speaker 3: at all the time. But for him, Mark came in

1739
01:28:49,800 --> 01:28:54,400
Speaker 3: I mean obviously with you know, great expectations, expectations. Right,

1740
01:28:54,760 --> 01:28:56,840
Speaker 3: he would be at my house studying, he would come

1741
01:28:56,880 --> 01:28:58,920
Speaker 3: overhang out. I've known the guy since he's a kid,

1742
01:28:59,000 --> 01:29:02,080
Speaker 3: and now he just got married recently and now he's

1743
01:29:02,120 --> 01:29:04,760
Speaker 3: doing well with that and doing well and in the

1744
01:29:04,800 --> 01:29:05,599
Speaker 3: broadcasting world.

1745
01:29:05,640 --> 01:29:07,920
Speaker 2: So I'm happy for him. Man. Yeah, I love Mark.

1746
01:29:08,520 --> 01:29:10,920
Speaker 2: So let me ask you this about Jets fans and

1747
01:29:10,960 --> 01:29:16,160
Speaker 2: their approach to Aaron Rodgers. Because Aaron Rodgers, obviously, when

1748
01:29:16,280 --> 01:29:20,559
Speaker 2: given a forum, will speak his mind. He's not afraid

1749
01:29:20,600 --> 01:29:23,800
Speaker 2: of anything that comes out of his mouth. Apparently, how

1750
01:29:23,840 --> 01:29:25,200
Speaker 2: much slack do you think he's going to get in

1751
01:29:25,240 --> 01:29:27,840
Speaker 2: New York? I mean this, I mean if they start

1752
01:29:27,960 --> 01:29:31,920
Speaker 2: one in three and the Bills are sitting at four

1753
01:29:32,000 --> 01:29:34,840
Speaker 2: and o, and the and the Dolphins are at three

1754
01:29:34,880 --> 01:29:38,559
Speaker 2: and one, maybe even the Patriots are two and two.

1755
01:29:39,160 --> 01:29:42,000
Speaker 2: It's a seventeen game season, but a one in three

1756
01:29:42,200 --> 01:29:45,760
Speaker 2: Jets team at the bottom of the AFC East standings,

1757
01:29:46,360 --> 01:29:50,320
Speaker 2: will people say be patient or is he going to

1758
01:29:50,360 --> 01:29:52,960
Speaker 2: feel the full raft? You're putting them in the cellar? Okay?

1759
01:29:53,040 --> 01:29:55,160
Speaker 2: I see No, I mean early in the year. It's

1760
01:29:55,160 --> 01:29:58,000
Speaker 2: four games, so the Bills are four and oh, Dolphins

1761
01:29:58,040 --> 01:29:59,960
Speaker 2: are three and one, Pats are two and two jets

1762
01:30:00,240 --> 01:30:02,760
Speaker 2: one in three. Oh, it's going to be all Hill's

1763
01:30:02,800 --> 01:30:04,719
Speaker 2: going to break loose, All Hell's gonna be all Hill's

1764
01:30:04,720 --> 01:30:06,439
Speaker 2: going to break. Can you prepare him for what it

1765
01:30:06,600 --> 01:30:08,720
Speaker 2: means when you all hell breaks least? Can't prepare him

1766
01:30:08,720 --> 01:30:12,360
Speaker 2: for anything for that? That's that's a whole different story.

1767
01:30:12,520 --> 01:30:15,400
Speaker 2: It's one of those things that I have been subjected

1768
01:30:15,439 --> 01:30:17,160
Speaker 2: to in the past as well. I mean, it's one

1769
01:30:17,200 --> 01:30:22,000
Speaker 2: of those places where when you're at the top of

1770
01:30:22,080 --> 01:30:26,160
Speaker 2: your level, Oh, the praise is undeniable as well, But

1771
01:30:26,280 --> 01:30:30,120
Speaker 2: when you have a when you fall, are you stumble? Oh?

1772
01:30:30,240 --> 01:30:32,160
Speaker 2: The disdain is right there on the same level. Can

1773
01:30:32,200 --> 01:30:34,560
Speaker 2: I ask you this because he's obviously going to be

1774
01:30:34,600 --> 01:30:36,960
Speaker 2: inducted this summer into the Pro Football Hall of Fame

1775
01:30:37,080 --> 01:30:40,400
Speaker 2: or teammateate, Oh, Harel Revis uh an obvious first ballot

1776
01:30:40,479 --> 01:30:43,960
Speaker 2: Hall of Famer? Ye ay, how good was he? Because

1777
01:30:44,000 --> 01:30:46,120
Speaker 2: I have a hard time it's easy when I'm looking

1778
01:30:46,160 --> 01:30:48,880
Speaker 2: at someone throw football or catch a pass or run

1779
01:30:48,920 --> 01:30:53,000
Speaker 2: with a football, just sort of decipher who's better from

1780
01:30:53,040 --> 01:30:56,080
Speaker 2: a defensive standpoint, defense back and when when I work

1781
01:30:56,160 --> 01:30:59,040
Speaker 2: for the Raiders, we had Mike Haynes and Lester Hayes. Yes, too,

1782
01:30:59,240 --> 01:31:03,680
Speaker 2: unbelievable time grades. So how good was Durel Reeves And

1783
01:31:03,760 --> 01:31:05,720
Speaker 2: how difficult was it to have to be in the

1784
01:31:05,800 --> 01:31:08,240
Speaker 2: same secondary as a guy like Reevis.

1785
01:31:08,360 --> 01:31:10,280
Speaker 3: I wasn't difficult at all. He was one of those guys.

1786
01:31:10,960 --> 01:31:14,000
Speaker 3: Number one, the best cover corner that I've played with

1787
01:31:14,680 --> 01:31:15,080
Speaker 3: for sure.

1788
01:31:15,200 --> 01:31:18,360
Speaker 2: What makes that? I mean, I'm curious about because I

1789
01:31:18,439 --> 01:31:21,759
Speaker 2: think people you talk about a Dione Sanders, great swer Corners,

1790
01:31:23,000 --> 01:31:25,639
Speaker 2: how does someone separate themselves from the pack?

1791
01:31:25,880 --> 01:31:29,000
Speaker 3: It's you can do it differently the way he did

1792
01:31:29,080 --> 01:31:32,600
Speaker 3: it though, such a student of the game. Yeah, one

1793
01:31:32,680 --> 01:31:35,240
Speaker 3: hundred percent. I know that for a fact because he

1794
01:31:35,400 --> 01:31:37,680
Speaker 3: was right there with me studying. Sure, he came to

1795
01:31:37,840 --> 01:31:41,560
Speaker 3: me to help him to learn how to study on

1796
01:31:41,680 --> 01:31:44,760
Speaker 3: that level. So number one put the work in. But

1797
01:31:45,080 --> 01:31:48,400
Speaker 3: at the line of scrimmage, being able to get his

1798
01:31:48,520 --> 01:31:51,680
Speaker 3: hands on receivers and being patient at the line and

1799
01:31:51,800 --> 01:31:54,280
Speaker 3: not giving them any leeway. He was the best I've

1800
01:31:54,320 --> 01:31:54,720
Speaker 3: ever seen.

1801
01:31:55,280 --> 01:31:55,760
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1802
01:31:57,680 --> 01:32:02,759
Speaker 3: Obviously technique study, but he just had a gift also,

1803
01:32:02,960 --> 01:32:04,479
Speaker 3: And so like when you met we talked about earlier,

1804
01:32:04,479 --> 01:32:07,360
Speaker 3: you maximizing that gift, that God given talent that's there.

1805
01:32:08,040 --> 01:32:11,040
Speaker 3: He maximized it to the fullest. Yeah, and I mean

1806
01:32:11,080 --> 01:32:12,600
Speaker 3: that's really what made him who he was. And I

1807
01:32:12,640 --> 01:32:16,120
Speaker 3: remember his rookie year, he was holding out a little

1808
01:32:16,120 --> 01:32:18,920
Speaker 3: bit to get his contract done. And so you have

1809
01:32:19,040 --> 01:32:21,519
Speaker 3: these like, oh this guy thinks he said, or whatever,

1810
01:32:21,560 --> 01:32:24,680
Speaker 3: you have those initial fields. Yeah, he came in and

1811
01:32:24,880 --> 01:32:31,200
Speaker 3: he got rid of that label quick. I see why

1812
01:32:31,240 --> 01:32:32,120
Speaker 3: he held on a little bit more.

1813
01:32:33,240 --> 01:32:35,519
Speaker 2: Maybe you should have held out even longer, a little bit,

1814
01:32:36,160 --> 01:32:38,519
Speaker 2: but really good, I mean the best life. So was

1815
01:32:38,560 --> 01:32:41,880
Speaker 2: it challenging for you because obviously there's comparisons on your

1816
01:32:41,880 --> 01:32:44,160
Speaker 2: own team. No, for sure, No, I was. I was

1817
01:32:44,200 --> 01:32:44,639
Speaker 2: coming off.

1818
01:32:45,520 --> 01:32:48,679
Speaker 3: I was the rookie of the first team rookie, Yeah,

1819
01:32:48,920 --> 01:32:51,760
Speaker 3: second team all I mean second season all Pro. So

1820
01:32:51,880 --> 01:32:53,240
Speaker 3: he came in the next year when I was all

1821
01:32:53,320 --> 01:32:55,920
Speaker 3: in R Pro, I had no there was no worries

1822
01:32:56,000 --> 01:32:58,679
Speaker 3: of anybody coming in to take anything from me or anything.

1823
01:32:58,760 --> 01:33:00,720
Speaker 3: He played a different position too, He's going to help me.

1824
01:33:01,120 --> 01:33:02,439
Speaker 3: This is going to make my job better. And I

1825
01:33:02,520 --> 01:33:05,240
Speaker 3: think vice versa. We did that for each other when

1826
01:33:05,280 --> 01:33:09,040
Speaker 3: we played. We made the game easier. Steve and I out,

1827
01:33:09,080 --> 01:33:11,120
Speaker 3: are you going to go to can for his induction?

1828
01:33:11,360 --> 01:33:13,400
Speaker 3: He invited me to come out and I'm trying to

1829
01:33:13,720 --> 01:33:16,040
Speaker 3: be for an induction I have. I played in that game.

1830
01:33:16,160 --> 01:33:18,760
Speaker 3: So the funny story is the Jets play in that game.

1831
01:33:19,439 --> 01:33:22,200
Speaker 3: The Jets played, No, the just didn't play. I played

1832
01:33:22,240 --> 01:33:24,880
Speaker 3: in that game in Arizona in twenty ten. Yeah, when

1833
01:33:25,560 --> 01:33:27,080
Speaker 3: when Curtis Martin went to the Hall of Fame. So

1834
01:33:27,560 --> 01:33:29,479
Speaker 3: I've had that experience with him. And you know, Curtis

1835
01:33:29,560 --> 01:33:31,479
Speaker 3: is one of my mentors when I when I was

1836
01:33:31,520 --> 01:33:34,240
Speaker 3: coming through, and now Rebus asked me to come out.

1837
01:33:34,280 --> 01:33:36,080
Speaker 3: So I'm going to go out and support him as well.

1838
01:33:36,160 --> 01:33:37,920
Speaker 3: So it's just this will be number two.

1839
01:33:38,000 --> 01:33:41,040
Speaker 2: Yeah. I did it twice. I went with Howie's long

1840
01:33:41,160 --> 01:33:44,479
Speaker 2: but the big party was Marcus Arcus Allen's. We went

1841
01:33:44,520 --> 01:33:46,640
Speaker 2: to a full party afterwards and everything else just the

1842
01:33:46,680 --> 01:33:49,559
Speaker 2: same deal. Yeah. I remember Nick Lowry, the former Chiefs

1843
01:33:49,680 --> 01:33:51,800
Speaker 2: kicker from back in the day, trying to pick up

1844
01:33:51,840 --> 01:33:55,160
Speaker 2: on my wife. I thought that was a little not appropriate.

1845
01:33:55,240 --> 01:33:58,000
Speaker 2: Oh man, if you're listening, Nick, I remember that. Nick.

1846
01:33:58,240 --> 01:34:03,040
Speaker 2: He did not forget that, all right. Getting ready for

1847
01:34:03,120 --> 01:34:05,360
Speaker 2: the start of the NFL season, A lot of stories

1848
01:34:05,400 --> 01:34:07,840
Speaker 2: coming up right now. We got the latest this it's

1849
01:34:07,880 --> 01:34:11,400
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Saturday Steve Harbin and Carrie Rhodes with you

1850
01:34:11,520 --> 01:34:14,280
Speaker 2: here Fox Sports Saturday. We're coming you live from the

1851
01:34:15,080 --> 01:34:19,400
Speaker 2: tairaq dot com studios. Have you seen the new Netflix

1852
01:34:19,439 --> 01:34:24,360
Speaker 2: show Quarterback? I have? I have. I watched the first

1853
01:34:24,439 --> 01:34:28,880
Speaker 2: episode they're featuring. This is a Peyton Manning production and

1854
01:34:29,040 --> 01:34:33,880
Speaker 2: they're featuring Patrick Mahomes, Kirk Cousins, and Marcus Mariota, which

1855
01:34:33,960 --> 01:34:37,720
Speaker 2: is interesting because again, this is really takes you through

1856
01:34:37,760 --> 01:34:41,240
Speaker 2: their entire season on the field, off the field a

1857
01:34:41,320 --> 01:34:43,840
Speaker 2: year ago. Good choices, by the way, because they certainly

1858
01:34:43,920 --> 01:34:50,320
Speaker 2: all started the year in very different positions. Would you

1859
01:34:50,560 --> 01:34:55,640
Speaker 2: want them to show your whole private life? Are you

1860
01:34:55,840 --> 01:35:00,800
Speaker 2: surprised because they're showing stuff early on, Like there's there's

1861
01:35:00,800 --> 01:35:03,639
Speaker 2: stuff with Mahomes and his wife and I think she's

1862
01:35:03,680 --> 01:35:07,240
Speaker 2: expecting their second child and they're getting some pictures done

1863
01:35:07,280 --> 01:35:10,120
Speaker 2: and he's like he wants no part of it. And

1864
01:35:10,200 --> 01:35:13,080
Speaker 2: I'm thinking to myself, No husband wants to take fit.

1865
01:35:13,120 --> 01:35:13,559
Speaker 1: None of us.

1866
01:35:13,680 --> 01:35:15,920
Speaker 2: Do you know you go through the whole process. You

1867
01:35:15,960 --> 01:35:18,200
Speaker 2: know you're going to get married, Let's go take No

1868
01:35:18,800 --> 01:35:20,160
Speaker 2: guy wants to take pictures.

1869
01:35:20,920 --> 01:35:23,680
Speaker 3: Sorry, I know she had like seven different photo op

1870
01:35:23,920 --> 01:35:27,040
Speaker 3: places and it's like Okay, can we be done please?

1871
01:35:27,280 --> 01:35:29,240
Speaker 2: And she's like, yeah, he didn't want fit and I'm like, no,

1872
01:35:29,400 --> 01:35:33,719
Speaker 2: guy does. All right, So do you do you enjoy

1873
01:35:33,840 --> 01:35:36,360
Speaker 2: watching shows like that or they pull back the curtain

1874
01:35:36,439 --> 01:35:38,640
Speaker 2: and you sort of get a sneak peek of just

1875
01:35:39,040 --> 01:35:43,679
Speaker 2: the person as opposed to the player. I yes, there's

1876
01:35:43,720 --> 01:35:46,320
Speaker 2: a sense of sense of that that I do love.

1877
01:35:46,680 --> 01:35:48,880
Speaker 2: Would you ever want cameras to follow you through your

1878
01:35:48,920 --> 01:35:49,559
Speaker 2: private life?

1879
01:35:49,720 --> 01:35:49,760
Speaker 7: No?

1880
01:35:50,720 --> 01:35:51,280
Speaker 2: No, not for me.

1881
01:35:51,320 --> 01:35:53,439
Speaker 3: I wouldn't do the reality stuff. I've been asked to

1882
01:35:53,520 --> 01:35:56,120
Speaker 3: do that a couple of times and passed, even when

1883
01:35:56,120 --> 01:35:58,240
Speaker 3: I was when I was married, they wanted to do

1884
01:35:58,320 --> 01:36:00,680
Speaker 3: that as well because my me as an actress and

1885
01:36:00,720 --> 01:36:03,280
Speaker 3: say exactly, yeah, but no, I did not want to

1886
01:36:03,320 --> 01:36:05,840
Speaker 3: do that and never. I mean the way they're doing this,

1887
01:36:06,000 --> 01:36:09,120
Speaker 3: incorporating the games and you know, the terminology in the

1888
01:36:09,200 --> 01:36:11,000
Speaker 3: verbiage and all that stuff is kind of cool though.

1889
01:36:11,400 --> 01:36:12,560
Speaker 3: So yeah, I like saying this.

1890
01:36:13,000 --> 01:36:16,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, some of the on field stuff, I really like

1891
01:36:16,800 --> 01:36:19,880
Speaker 2: they were showing mahomes. So last year I was one

1892
01:36:19,920 --> 01:36:23,559
Speaker 2: of those that had doubts because my attitude about losing

1893
01:36:23,640 --> 01:36:27,200
Speaker 2: Tyreek Hill is Okay, you got Kelsey and you got Hill.

1894
01:36:27,880 --> 01:36:30,400
Speaker 2: Pick your poison. If you're a defense trying to get

1895
01:36:30,479 --> 01:36:33,280
Speaker 2: ready for the Chiefs, who are we going to try

1896
01:36:33,320 --> 01:36:36,600
Speaker 2: to take out? And you take Tyreek Hill out of

1897
01:36:36,600 --> 01:36:40,120
Speaker 2: the mix. Nobody they got is even close to Tyreek Hill.

1898
01:36:40,960 --> 01:36:43,040
Speaker 2: So now I'm thinking, fine, we're gonna just shut down

1899
01:36:43,160 --> 01:36:46,400
Speaker 2: Kelsey and he just scores four touchdowns one game. But

1900
01:36:46,520 --> 01:36:49,200
Speaker 2: the game against the Raiders. Remember they lose Week three

1901
01:36:49,320 --> 01:36:52,160
Speaker 2: to the Colts, yep, and now they're down seventeen to

1902
01:36:52,200 --> 01:36:53,960
Speaker 2: nothing to the Raiders. And I was one of those

1903
01:36:54,000 --> 01:36:56,560
Speaker 2: guys that I told you so he's not going to

1904
01:36:56,640 --> 01:37:00,639
Speaker 2: be the same guy. And Crosby gets in his face,

1905
01:37:00,680 --> 01:37:03,160
Speaker 2: gives them a little bumping everything else, and it gets

1906
01:37:03,200 --> 01:37:06,439
Speaker 2: them hot, like to the point where Annie Reid's like, dude,

1907
01:37:06,640 --> 01:37:09,679
Speaker 2: you got to calm down. Calm down, Okay, calm down.

1908
01:37:10,320 --> 01:37:12,799
Speaker 2: I love watching that stuff because I think what people

1909
01:37:13,000 --> 01:37:18,680
Speaker 2: don't understand when you watch an NFL game. And I

1910
01:37:18,760 --> 01:37:21,880
Speaker 2: will never forget this. So when I again, I go

1911
01:37:22,000 --> 01:37:24,880
Speaker 2: back to my Raider days. We go to Kansas City

1912
01:37:25,479 --> 01:37:28,080
Speaker 2: and it's Bo Jackson's return to Kansas City and now

1913
01:37:28,120 --> 01:37:31,400
Speaker 2: he's playing for the Royals at the time, and on

1914
01:37:31,720 --> 01:37:35,320
Speaker 2: his second carry of the game, he gets hurt. But

1915
01:37:35,479 --> 01:37:39,880
Speaker 2: the phone from the field is not working, so we

1916
01:37:40,000 --> 01:37:42,760
Speaker 2: have no idea what's happening to him. So they're yelling

1917
01:37:42,760 --> 01:37:44,720
Speaker 2: i'mou get down there and find out what's going on.

1918
01:37:44,800 --> 01:37:48,120
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, geez, it's freezing down an arrowhead, right,

1919
01:37:48,360 --> 01:37:51,400
Speaker 2: I got this raider jacket on, so obviously, and I

1920
01:37:51,479 --> 01:37:53,920
Speaker 2: had to come out on the opposite side of the field.

1921
01:37:54,000 --> 01:37:57,320
Speaker 2: On the chief side, I'm getting heckled. People are throwing

1922
01:37:57,400 --> 01:37:59,639
Speaker 2: things at I mean literally throwing things at me. Right,

1923
01:38:00,160 --> 01:38:02,080
Speaker 2: So I get to the other side and I now

1924
01:38:02,479 --> 01:38:04,720
Speaker 2: figure out and I'm able to but I got to

1925
01:38:04,760 --> 01:38:07,080
Speaker 2: spend the rest of the half. It's first half on

1926
01:38:07,240 --> 01:38:12,880
Speaker 2: the field. Perspective on the field is like a different world.

1927
01:38:13,720 --> 01:38:17,360
Speaker 2: So we had Marcus Allen. He carried the ball into

1928
01:38:17,400 --> 01:38:20,000
Speaker 2: the middle of the field and he gets stuffed. And

1929
01:38:20,160 --> 01:38:23,519
Speaker 2: I can hear a cheese player saying something that I

1930
01:38:24,120 --> 01:38:25,840
Speaker 2: put it this way. I can't say it on the air,

1931
01:38:26,120 --> 01:38:28,800
Speaker 2: not even close. I can't even hint. I can't even

1932
01:38:28,920 --> 01:38:32,280
Speaker 2: use a letter. Okay it was I A'm like, did

1933
01:38:32,320 --> 01:38:34,800
Speaker 2: he just say that? And you could see it on

1934
01:38:34,920 --> 01:38:37,439
Speaker 2: TV oil. A little pushing and shoving, but I mean,

1935
01:38:37,479 --> 01:38:40,560
Speaker 2: it's getting fierce so the Raiders were always of like,

1936
01:38:40,680 --> 01:38:43,519
Speaker 2: we don't get angry, we just get even, right. So

1937
01:38:43,600 --> 01:38:45,559
Speaker 2: they had a rookie running back out of Temple named

1938
01:38:45,560 --> 01:38:48,040
Speaker 2: Paul Palmer. He'd been running up for the heisman at

1939
01:38:48,080 --> 01:38:50,240
Speaker 2: Temple about all places, by the way, his coach was

1940
01:38:50,280 --> 01:38:53,920
Speaker 2: Bruce Arians in college. Anyway, he runs a sweep toward

1941
01:38:54,000 --> 01:38:57,800
Speaker 2: the Lakers on the Lakers the Raiders' sideline, and he

1942
01:38:58,040 --> 01:39:02,080
Speaker 2: steps out of bounds, and one of our linebackers, after

1943
01:39:02,240 --> 01:39:05,640
Speaker 2: he had clearly stepped out of bounds, close lines him.

1944
01:39:05,720 --> 01:39:08,599
Speaker 2: Oh my god, and I am literally standing five feet

1945
01:39:08,640 --> 01:39:12,280
Speaker 2: from this. I thought he'd decapitated him. He is out cold.

1946
01:39:13,520 --> 01:39:17,200
Speaker 2: Flags are flying in you know, you know, penalty fifteen yards?

1947
01:39:17,280 --> 01:39:20,640
Speaker 2: What happens it? I mean he is out cold. He

1948
01:39:20,800 --> 01:39:27,200
Speaker 2: was out cold out. People never understand if you haven't been.

1949
01:39:28,280 --> 01:39:30,639
Speaker 2: I don't know how you guys ever step on a field.

1950
01:39:30,880 --> 01:39:36,640
Speaker 2: I'm serious, because I mean, I don't know how you

1951
01:39:36,680 --> 01:39:39,120
Speaker 2: guys do it. I really do not know how you

1952
01:39:39,320 --> 01:39:44,599
Speaker 2: have the nad We are derained? How do you field?

1953
01:39:45,479 --> 01:39:48,000
Speaker 2: Guys are nuts? I watch it now and I can't

1954
01:39:48,040 --> 01:39:50,760
Speaker 2: believe it. So I've been removed from it for so long.

1955
01:39:50,880 --> 01:39:53,120
Speaker 2: Now now I'm not that guy. Yeah, So when I

1956
01:39:53,280 --> 01:39:57,439
Speaker 2: watched certain hits or certain plays, I'm I'm doing, I'm jumping,

1957
01:39:57,640 --> 01:40:00,760
Speaker 2: like what's going on? Like it's intent, and when you

1958
01:40:00,840 --> 01:40:02,759
Speaker 2: get to hear it and see it on the field,

1959
01:40:04,320 --> 01:40:06,160
Speaker 2: it will blow your mind because I think a lot

1960
01:40:06,200 --> 01:40:09,840
Speaker 2: of people don't realize number one, how physical it is.

1961
01:40:09,920 --> 01:40:13,280
Speaker 2: They know it's physical. You have until your ideal, until

1962
01:40:13,280 --> 01:40:16,400
Speaker 2: you're on that field, it's a whole different world. Like

1963
01:40:16,520 --> 01:40:20,479
Speaker 2: you're watching like this is crazy, and just the verbage

1964
01:40:20,560 --> 01:40:22,439
Speaker 2: what you said, like the things that are said, but

1965
01:40:23,000 --> 01:40:26,360
Speaker 2: the stuff that has to be communicated across the board.

1966
01:40:27,080 --> 01:40:29,840
Speaker 2: So we're talking about just from a functionality standpoint, Yeah,

1967
01:40:30,280 --> 01:40:32,320
Speaker 2: all the stuff that goes on on that field, all

1968
01:40:32,360 --> 01:40:37,080
Speaker 2: the communication, all the nonverbal communication, right, you wouldn't You

1969
01:40:37,240 --> 01:40:41,080
Speaker 2: can't fathom it. You think these guys are just not

1970
01:40:41,280 --> 01:40:44,120
Speaker 2: smart or dumb athletes. Well, and the worst part to

1971
01:40:44,200 --> 01:40:48,000
Speaker 2: me was as vicious as these games are, to see

1972
01:40:48,200 --> 01:40:52,960
Speaker 2: players come in Monday. I mean you're essentially getting into

1973
01:40:53,040 --> 01:40:56,320
Speaker 2: a major car accident every week, and you see guys

1974
01:40:56,560 --> 01:41:00,519
Speaker 2: dragging their bodies in on a Monday, getting checked out

1975
01:41:00,560 --> 01:41:03,439
Speaker 2: and doing whatever. Tuesday would be your day off. And

1976
01:41:03,520 --> 01:41:05,200
Speaker 2: then once a year back at it, and I'm like,

1977
01:41:06,280 --> 01:41:10,599
Speaker 2: how what I saw on Monday? Are you playing again?

1978
01:41:11,200 --> 01:41:15,040
Speaker 2: Another week? And another week and another week. This gets

1979
01:41:15,080 --> 01:41:19,880
Speaker 2: back to our original comment about preparing yourself for training camp, right,

1980
01:41:20,400 --> 01:41:23,280
Speaker 2: because as a young player, you're trying to get eyeballs

1981
01:41:23,360 --> 01:41:25,840
Speaker 2: on you, and the veterans are like, dude, you know

1982
01:41:25,960 --> 01:41:27,080
Speaker 2: how long this season is.

1983
01:41:27,360 --> 01:41:31,040
Speaker 3: Oh, you better pace yourself, young fella. That's what they

1984
01:41:31,080 --> 01:41:33,160
Speaker 3: would say. Yeah, because I remember coming out. I mean

1985
01:41:33,200 --> 01:41:35,160
Speaker 3: I was a rookie and I started from day one

1986
01:41:35,200 --> 01:41:37,160
Speaker 3: as a rookie. I was blessed to have that happen.

1987
01:41:37,280 --> 01:41:41,280
Speaker 3: But I'm out there running around and they would be like, Okay, relax,

1988
01:41:41,880 --> 01:41:46,920
Speaker 3: you're good, pace yourself. Yeah, it's just like work smarter,

1989
01:41:47,160 --> 01:41:47,679
Speaker 3: work harder.

1990
01:41:47,800 --> 01:41:50,160
Speaker 2: That deal. You know, we're going to an eighteen game schedule.

1991
01:41:50,200 --> 01:41:52,479
Speaker 2: I mean that's obvious. They're trying. Huh oh, they're gonna

1992
01:41:52,479 --> 01:41:55,720
Speaker 2: get the preseason games. I want to get this on

1993
01:41:55,800 --> 01:41:57,840
Speaker 2: the other side, because as we get ready for the

1994
01:41:57,880 --> 01:42:01,080
Speaker 2: start of the regular season, they're gonna be some drastic

1995
01:42:01,280 --> 01:42:04,080
Speaker 2: changes in the way teams prepare for the season. But

1996
01:42:04,160 --> 01:42:07,400
Speaker 2: first let's find out what as trending. As Nick kpe

1997
01:42:07,520 --> 01:42:09,800
Speaker 2: right there, do you think Nikki would have what it

1998
01:42:09,880 --> 01:42:14,320
Speaker 2: takes to run onto an NFL field and engage. No,

1999
01:42:15,360 --> 01:42:20,000
Speaker 2: I can't hear hello, yeah me now yeah here I

2000
01:42:20,080 --> 01:42:24,880
Speaker 2: am Yeah, No, I would get destroyed, No chance. I

2001
01:42:24,960 --> 01:42:28,519
Speaker 2: have faith you, Nick. No, I know where I stand.

2002
01:42:28,560 --> 01:42:30,680
Speaker 2: I played tennis in high school. Yeah, I don't. I

2003
01:42:30,720 --> 01:42:33,120
Speaker 2: don't belong on a football field. I'm a stat geek

2004
01:42:33,200 --> 01:42:36,760
Speaker 2: from the Valley. I can't even play flag football without fear.

2005
01:42:36,960 --> 01:42:41,720
Speaker 2: So oh my god. Yeah, not the most physical, that's

2006
01:42:42,080 --> 01:42:44,000
Speaker 2: I mean. These flag games get kind of physical out

2007
01:42:44,040 --> 01:42:46,559
Speaker 2: here though. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I've seen some blood.

2008
01:42:49,240 --> 01:42:51,960
Speaker 2: We used to have a daily Bruin, Daily Trojan flag

2009
01:42:52,040 --> 01:42:54,599
Speaker 2: football game. Oh yeah, they still do that. Oh yeah,

2010
01:42:55,120 --> 01:42:56,800
Speaker 2: the Blood Bowl. We call it the Blood Bowl.

2011
01:42:57,080 --> 01:42:59,800
Speaker 6: I did that for years, even after I was on

2012
01:42:59,880 --> 01:43:03,080
Speaker 6: the Okay, realistically, like how physical was that?

2013
01:43:03,280 --> 01:43:06,360
Speaker 2: It was? Okay? Oh yeah. Like first of all, both

2014
01:43:06,600 --> 01:43:09,360
Speaker 2: the papers would recruit guys that actually would like write

2015
01:43:09,439 --> 01:43:12,360
Speaker 2: a article that would be like six five, three hundred pounds.

2016
01:43:12,360 --> 01:43:13,960
Speaker 2: I would throw them on the field. We had ringers

2017
01:43:14,080 --> 01:43:16,320
Speaker 2: all over the place. Oh yeah, and if they said

2018
01:43:16,520 --> 01:43:18,479
Speaker 2: this guy's not legit, we would pull out the article.

2019
01:43:18,560 --> 01:43:21,960
Speaker 2: There's his name, the byline, there's the byline right there. Steve.

2020
01:43:22,000 --> 01:43:24,560
Speaker 3: Ore your stats though, since you're a stat guy, I

2021
01:43:24,600 --> 01:43:25,360
Speaker 3: want to notice stats.

2022
01:43:25,880 --> 01:43:27,519
Speaker 2: Zero carries for zero yards.

2023
01:43:27,560 --> 01:43:28,760
Speaker 7: I have that.

2024
01:43:28,960 --> 01:43:31,880
Speaker 2: I was just out there put it that way. Actually,

2025
01:43:31,880 --> 01:43:34,639
Speaker 2: I wasn't a bad flag polar. I had a pretty

2026
01:43:34,640 --> 01:43:38,000
Speaker 2: good sense of pulling a flag. He had a slide

2027
01:43:38,040 --> 01:43:40,640
Speaker 2: in there. Yeah, technique. Blocking was not a big thing

2028
01:43:40,720 --> 01:43:43,160
Speaker 2: for me. You know. I remember I was back, you know,

2029
01:43:43,240 --> 01:43:45,200
Speaker 2: trying to block one time, and some guy hit me

2030
01:43:45,400 --> 01:43:48,040
Speaker 2: so hard that he knocked me back. I don't know

2031
01:43:48,080 --> 01:43:51,160
Speaker 2: about ten feet in the air. I landed on my butt.

2032
01:43:51,439 --> 01:43:54,400
Speaker 2: I got the block in, but that's got in his way. Yeah.

2033
01:43:54,680 --> 01:43:58,000
Speaker 2: But I mean guys like here, I mean they're nuts

2034
01:43:58,439 --> 01:44:02,559
Speaker 2: for game nuts. I don't disagree. Yeah yeah.

2035
01:44:02,840 --> 01:44:04,720
Speaker 6: I tapped out in like eighth grade. I was like,

2036
01:44:04,800 --> 01:44:07,439
Speaker 6: I'm good, I'm good, you got your picks, got my fix.

2037
01:44:07,520 --> 01:44:10,559
Speaker 6: I'm like, I don't need this. It's for other people.

2038
01:44:10,840 --> 01:44:13,599
Speaker 2: I believe that's winning that life when you can figure

2039
01:44:13,600 --> 01:44:15,560
Speaker 2: it out early. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I agree. Thank you.

2040
01:44:16,160 --> 01:44:19,479
Speaker 6: All right, guys, baseball got a few finals here to report.

2041
01:44:19,520 --> 01:44:22,000
Speaker 6: Phillies beat the Padres six to four. They're playing a

2042
01:44:22,040 --> 01:44:25,040
Speaker 6: double header in Philly today. Gonna get the second leg

2043
01:44:25,120 --> 01:44:27,240
Speaker 6: going in about half an hour for San Diego, Many

2044
01:44:27,280 --> 01:44:30,400
Speaker 6: Machiano hit career home run number three hundred and the

2045
01:44:30,479 --> 01:44:32,840
Speaker 6: Nationals stop the Cardinals seven to five. That one went

2046
01:44:32,960 --> 01:44:36,120
Speaker 6: into the tenth inning. They'll play again in about thirty

2047
01:44:36,160 --> 01:44:38,360
Speaker 6: minutes as well. Raised took game one of a double

2048
01:44:38,400 --> 01:44:41,400
Speaker 6: header over the Royals six to one. Hose Sirie homer twice.

2049
01:44:41,760 --> 01:44:44,280
Speaker 6: Cubs all over. The Red Sox built in early lead,

2050
01:44:44,400 --> 01:44:47,040
Speaker 6: had a six run third inning. Cody Bellinger had a

2051
01:44:47,080 --> 01:44:50,080
Speaker 6: grand Slam as the exclamation point. Chicago went on to

2052
01:44:50,160 --> 01:44:54,360
Speaker 6: win ten to four. Blue Jays Cruise passed the Diamondbacks.

2053
01:44:53,760 --> 01:44:54,320
Speaker 2: Five to two.

2054
01:44:54,680 --> 01:44:57,559
Speaker 6: One game currently going on. The Rangers trying to close

2055
01:44:57,560 --> 01:44:59,680
Speaker 6: out the Guardians. They lead two to nothing in the

2056
01:44:59,800 --> 01:45:00,439
Speaker 6: nine thinning.

2057
01:45:00,680 --> 01:45:01,160
Speaker 2: Cleveland.

2058
01:45:01,200 --> 01:45:03,200
Speaker 6: By the way, they put pitcher Shane Bieber on the

2059
01:45:03,240 --> 01:45:08,080
Speaker 6: fifteen day injured list with right elbow inflammation. College Sports

2060
01:45:08,120 --> 01:45:12,600
Speaker 6: Tennessee football had all those punishments come down yesterday for

2061
01:45:12,800 --> 01:45:15,679
Speaker 6: those more than two hundred in fractions that were committed

2062
01:45:15,760 --> 01:45:18,800
Speaker 6: under former coach Jerry Pruett well now coming to light today.

2063
01:45:18,880 --> 01:45:22,160
Speaker 6: Also included they will have to vacate all eleven wins

2064
01:45:22,280 --> 01:45:25,640
Speaker 6: between twenty nineteen and twenty twenty, which does include a

2065
01:45:25,800 --> 01:45:29,360
Speaker 6: Gator Bowl victory in twenty nineteen and golf the second

2066
01:45:29,439 --> 01:45:32,880
Speaker 6: round of the American Century Championship in Tahoe as rap.

2067
01:45:33,000 --> 01:45:35,880
Speaker 6: Steph Curry is at the top, Joe Pavelski and Marty

2068
01:45:35,960 --> 01:45:38,240
Speaker 6: Fish in the top three as well. Steph Curry had

2069
01:45:38,280 --> 01:45:40,320
Speaker 6: that hole in one from one hundred and fifty two

2070
01:45:40,479 --> 01:45:43,439
Speaker 6: yards on the par three seventh hole, his second hole

2071
01:45:43,479 --> 01:45:46,440
Speaker 6: in one in his golf career. In terms of the professionals,

2072
01:45:46,520 --> 01:45:48,439
Speaker 6: Roy McRoy as a one shot lead at the end

2073
01:45:48,439 --> 01:45:50,559
Speaker 6: of the third round at the Scottish Open.

2074
01:45:50,800 --> 01:45:53,799
Speaker 2: Back to you guys, all right, Nick, great job. As always,

2075
01:45:53,800 --> 01:45:55,880
Speaker 2: once again we are coming to live from the tai

2076
01:45:55,960 --> 01:45:58,719
Speaker 2: iraq dot com studios. Who is tougher to play against?

2077
01:45:58,760 --> 01:46:05,000
Speaker 2: Manny or Brady? Manning or Brady, And I'm talking Peyton

2078
01:46:05,040 --> 01:46:08,760
Speaker 2: not Eli. Oh. I figured that one. Yeah, Eli was

2079
01:46:08,840 --> 01:46:13,960
Speaker 2: not scary. I would say, I would say Peyton. So

2080
01:46:14,160 --> 01:46:16,960
Speaker 2: he didn't throw the prettiest pass. It was a little

2081
01:46:17,040 --> 01:46:19,320
Speaker 2: a little bit of a yeah, it was a Hinge

2082
01:46:19,400 --> 01:46:20,479
Speaker 2: type thing. Yeah. Yeah.

2083
01:46:21,840 --> 01:46:26,080
Speaker 3: So why Manning over Brady just because I I played

2084
01:46:26,120 --> 01:46:28,920
Speaker 3: Brady so much? Yeah, I got kind of used to

2085
01:46:28,960 --> 01:46:30,760
Speaker 3: a lot of the things that he did. I was

2086
01:46:30,960 --> 01:46:33,320
Speaker 3: a student of the game, but I would pay play

2087
01:46:33,439 --> 01:46:36,479
Speaker 3: Peyton and the times that I played against him, it

2088
01:46:36,640 --> 01:46:39,320
Speaker 3: just they weren't good good times for me. But I

2089
01:46:39,400 --> 01:46:41,280
Speaker 3: do have a great story about me and Peyton. Peyton

2090
01:46:41,360 --> 01:46:43,120
Speaker 3: was the one that kind of introduced me to my

2091
01:46:44,160 --> 01:46:46,840
Speaker 3: I'm here a moment. So in those six I led

2092
01:46:47,479 --> 01:46:51,000
Speaker 3: the whole NFL and defensive sacks for a dB and

2093
01:46:51,160 --> 01:46:54,799
Speaker 3: so I had just come off like destroying JP lossman

2094
01:46:55,080 --> 01:46:58,240
Speaker 3: like against Buffalo, sacked him twice too for small.

2095
01:46:58,120 --> 01:47:00,559
Speaker 2: Bring on Bill's fans, listen and you had to bring

2096
01:47:00,640 --> 01:47:02,559
Speaker 2: up JP lost exactly.

2097
01:47:02,880 --> 01:47:06,599
Speaker 3: But coming off that game, I was, you know, obviously

2098
01:47:06,640 --> 01:47:08,400
Speaker 3: a focus of defense coming in and so I was

2099
01:47:08,439 --> 01:47:11,360
Speaker 3: starting to come down and show a blitz against you know,

2100
01:47:11,479 --> 01:47:14,639
Speaker 3: against Peyton and the Colts, and he'd hit the whole.

2101
01:47:14,600 --> 01:47:15,479
Speaker 2: Check check, check check.

2102
01:47:15,960 --> 01:47:18,000
Speaker 3: He's like check carry Rose and I was like, I

2103
01:47:18,160 --> 01:47:21,040
Speaker 3: literally looked around, is he talking to Is he talking

2104
01:47:21,120 --> 01:47:21,280
Speaker 3: to me?

2105
01:47:21,400 --> 01:47:23,880
Speaker 2: I had to like do that look, and it was like, Oh,

2106
01:47:23,960 --> 01:47:27,519
Speaker 2: I think I've actually a ride. I'm a good player. Nice, nice.

2107
01:47:29,000 --> 01:47:29,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2108
01:47:29,280 --> 01:47:32,800
Speaker 2: Sometimes it's funny because you think about it. Sometimes you

2109
01:47:32,920 --> 01:47:37,680
Speaker 2: see him baseball nondescript hitters have the number of some

2110
01:47:37,760 --> 01:47:41,800
Speaker 2: of the best pitchers in baseball. They can't hit anybody else,

2111
01:47:41,880 --> 01:47:45,080
Speaker 2: but for whatever reason, they can see the ball come

2112
01:47:45,160 --> 01:47:47,599
Speaker 2: out of their hand at a certain angle. Or I mean,

2113
01:47:47,760 --> 01:47:50,719
Speaker 2: I would imagine that maybe there were quarterbacks that weren't

2114
01:47:50,720 --> 01:47:53,519
Speaker 2: the best quarterbacks in the league, that for some reason

2115
01:47:53,600 --> 01:47:55,479
Speaker 2: you had a hard time reading one.

2116
01:47:56,280 --> 01:48:00,320
Speaker 3: But you talk about those two, I mean, between Brady

2117
01:48:00,360 --> 01:48:04,479
Speaker 3: and Manning, Brady I've sacked, I've done all these things

2118
01:48:04,560 --> 01:48:07,479
Speaker 3: to him, I've I've never picked him off, and that

2119
01:48:07,560 --> 01:48:08,960
Speaker 3: was the one thing that I mean, I would get

2120
01:48:08,960 --> 01:48:10,680
Speaker 3: close to his ball, but it had come off like

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01:48:10,800 --> 01:48:14,080
Speaker 3: a little bit. It was just a weird thing, exactly

2122
01:48:14,120 --> 01:48:16,640
Speaker 3: what you said, because I could have I played all

2123
01:48:16,720 --> 01:48:18,680
Speaker 3: these other guys and would pick them off easily, and

2124
01:48:19,000 --> 01:48:21,400
Speaker 3: Brady's would be a little harder to do.

2125
01:48:21,720 --> 01:48:28,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, has Mahomes clearly separated himself now from the

2126
01:48:28,080 --> 01:48:31,679
Speaker 2: rest of the field. Yes, there's nobody on this level

2127
01:48:31,760 --> 01:48:34,559
Speaker 2: right now. Yeah, think about this. He has already got

2128
01:48:34,640 --> 01:48:39,759
Speaker 2: two Super Bowl winsuper Super Bowl MVPs, two regular season MVPs.

2129
01:48:39,800 --> 01:48:41,439
Speaker 2: No one's done it this quick in their career. He's

2130
01:48:41,479 --> 01:48:44,680
Speaker 2: been in five straight Conference championship games, and it's going

2131
01:48:44,760 --> 01:48:48,040
Speaker 2: to be hard for somebody to throw him this year too.

2132
01:48:48,120 --> 01:48:51,920
Speaker 2: I mean, he's believe I wasn't there a year ago. Yeah. No,

2133
01:48:52,080 --> 01:48:56,519
Speaker 2: he's such a good player, Steve. He's light years ahead

2134
01:48:56,560 --> 01:49:00,280
Speaker 2: of guys with just the physical talent, but he also

2135
01:49:00,360 --> 01:49:02,439
Speaker 2: studies a game and an elite level. And he's with

2136
01:49:02,560 --> 01:49:06,120
Speaker 2: the coach that's so good at game planning. I don't

2137
01:49:06,120 --> 01:49:07,679
Speaker 2: think anybody's going to beat the guys for a while.

2138
01:49:07,760 --> 01:49:10,800
Speaker 2: All right. I give you a choice between Josh Allen

2139
01:49:10,840 --> 01:49:14,000
Speaker 2: and Joe Burrow. Who you gonna take. I'm going to

2140
01:49:14,080 --> 01:49:18,280
Speaker 2: take Joe Burrows. He's just so cool. Yeah, he seems

2141
01:49:18,280 --> 01:49:20,960
Speaker 2: so calm and collected. Josh. Is that a rivalry now,

2142
01:49:21,000 --> 01:49:23,120
Speaker 2: do you? I mean, I mean the Bengals and the Chiefs.

2143
01:49:23,160 --> 01:49:24,880
Speaker 2: I know, you know, they try to make it out.

2144
01:49:25,000 --> 01:49:29,680
Speaker 2: It's it's hard for NFL rivalries that don't really it's

2145
01:49:29,800 --> 01:49:33,200
Speaker 2: not about that's I'm glad you said that, all right. Now,

2146
01:49:33,400 --> 01:49:37,400
Speaker 2: As a fan, we love rivalry, sure, sure, I mean

2147
01:49:37,560 --> 01:49:41,519
Speaker 2: our attitude as a fan is, you know, as much

2148
01:49:41,560 --> 01:49:44,280
Speaker 2: as we love our team, we hate that other team

2149
01:49:44,360 --> 01:49:47,840
Speaker 2: to the same level. When you have a rival, you know,

2150
01:49:47,960 --> 01:49:51,799
Speaker 2: growing up in Los Angeles. You know the Lakers, Celtics.

2151
01:49:51,840 --> 01:49:54,560
Speaker 2: I mean, come on, I mean, you know Dodgers, Giants.

2152
01:49:55,840 --> 01:49:58,200
Speaker 2: So you have the rivals and obviously I went to UCLA,

2153
01:49:58,280 --> 01:50:01,040
Speaker 2: my dad went to USC. You see, you say, rivalries

2154
01:50:01,080 --> 01:50:03,439
Speaker 2: been part of my life, my entire life, on both

2155
01:50:03,479 --> 01:50:09,160
Speaker 2: sides of it. But you're saying in the NFL level

2156
01:50:10,200 --> 01:50:13,800
Speaker 2: they talk about division rivals. Are those games any more

2157
01:50:13,960 --> 01:50:17,599
Speaker 2: intense than any other game? The division rival rivals would

2158
01:50:17,640 --> 01:50:19,439
Speaker 2: be a little bit more intense than the other games.

2159
01:50:19,520 --> 01:50:22,000
Speaker 2: But I mean when you played the Patriots, right, we

2160
01:50:22,080 --> 01:50:25,559
Speaker 2: wanted to destroy them, for sure. You mentality was different.

2161
01:50:25,640 --> 01:50:28,240
Speaker 2: But was that because of the rivalry or just because

2162
01:50:28,280 --> 01:50:29,360
Speaker 2: they were that good of a team?

2163
01:50:29,520 --> 01:50:32,040
Speaker 3: Exactly? It's that part. They were that good of a

2164
01:50:32,120 --> 01:50:35,519
Speaker 3: team and they were kicking our butts. It was our

2165
01:50:35,640 --> 01:50:39,960
Speaker 3: time to kindly to combat that, right. It wasn't more

2166
01:50:39,960 --> 01:50:41,800
Speaker 3: about the rivalry, It was more about them being good.

2167
01:50:42,000 --> 01:50:44,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, So I agree with you. I mean,

2168
01:50:44,600 --> 01:50:47,040
Speaker 2: you're like you say, I mean, some of these rivalries

2169
01:50:47,120 --> 01:50:49,759
Speaker 2: come and go just based on the moment. You remember

2170
01:50:50,160 --> 01:50:52,320
Speaker 2: back in the day when the U and Notre Dame

2171
01:50:53,439 --> 01:50:59,400
Speaker 2: at a pretty intense rivalry. Absolutely, but it wasn't something

2172
01:50:59,439 --> 01:51:01,880
Speaker 2: based on anything other than the fact that when they

2173
01:51:01,960 --> 01:51:04,320
Speaker 2: had those games, they were like the two best teams

2174
01:51:04,360 --> 01:51:05,280
Speaker 2: in the country. That's it.

2175
01:51:05,560 --> 01:51:08,080
Speaker 3: It's about how good the teams are. I mean, if

2176
01:51:08,080 --> 01:51:10,599
Speaker 3: it's a sucky ride, nobody wants to really watch that one, right,

2177
01:51:10,880 --> 01:51:12,400
Speaker 3: we want to watch the good ones. You want to

2178
01:51:12,439 --> 01:51:14,200
Speaker 3: watch the Yankees, the Red Sox, Right, we want to

2179
01:51:14,240 --> 01:51:16,479
Speaker 3: see those type of games. And then, you know, I

2180
01:51:16,560 --> 01:51:20,320
Speaker 3: think the good thing about the football, about NFL and

2181
01:51:20,520 --> 01:51:23,680
Speaker 3: you know Cincinnati and Buffalo's thing that's going on right now,

2182
01:51:24,160 --> 01:51:26,839
Speaker 3: it's happening when it matters, right, It's happening in the playoffs,

2183
01:51:26,840 --> 01:51:30,080
Speaker 3: when these games are really this is where the players

2184
01:51:30,120 --> 01:51:33,080
Speaker 3: make their hay and these teams make their hay. And

2185
01:51:33,160 --> 01:51:36,120
Speaker 3: then during the season, obviously the piggyback off that playoff,

2186
01:51:36,160 --> 01:51:38,280
Speaker 3: when they play in a regular season, it can mean

2187
01:51:38,320 --> 01:51:39,840
Speaker 3: something because those teams are going to be good.

2188
01:51:42,439 --> 01:51:45,680
Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts is someone that has always impressed me, and

2189
01:51:46,000 --> 01:51:48,240
Speaker 2: it goes back to his Alabama days. Think about it,

2190
01:51:48,280 --> 01:51:51,160
Speaker 2: and this guy is the Conference Newcomer of the Year

2191
01:51:51,160 --> 01:51:54,160
Speaker 2: as a freshman. You know, continues to build his sophomore

2192
01:51:54,240 --> 01:51:56,720
Speaker 2: year and then he gets benched, right right at the

2193
01:51:56,800 --> 01:51:59,760
Speaker 2: end of his sophomore year in the championship game too,

2194
01:51:59,800 --> 01:52:02,720
Speaker 2: as Tua throws into Devonte Smith for the game win,

2195
01:52:02,760 --> 01:52:05,400
Speaker 2: he touchdown, and then has to sit an entire year

2196
01:52:05,479 --> 01:52:09,760
Speaker 2: as a backup quarterback and then transfers to Oklahoma, has

2197
01:52:09,800 --> 01:52:12,480
Speaker 2: the big year, and now look at him an incredible

2198
01:52:12,520 --> 01:52:15,720
Speaker 2: contract with the Eagles. And I remember, just sometimes you

2199
01:52:16,640 --> 01:52:19,360
Speaker 2: when we talk about the factor, I just need to listen.

2200
01:52:20,000 --> 01:52:23,960
Speaker 2: I need to hear somebody. And every interview I saw

2201
01:52:24,120 --> 01:52:27,360
Speaker 2: with Hurtz in how he handled that situation in Alabama

2202
01:52:28,080 --> 01:52:30,679
Speaker 2: told me there was a maturity factor waybeyond his years

2203
01:52:31,560 --> 01:52:35,559
Speaker 2: and that given the opportunity, he's going to surprise people.

2204
01:52:35,560 --> 01:52:38,280
Speaker 2: Because I would say with Hurts, I'd say, what's the

2205
01:52:38,360 --> 01:52:40,880
Speaker 2: ceiling on this guy? I mean, how good can he be?

2206
01:52:41,760 --> 01:52:43,920
Speaker 2: He's not Lamar Jackson, he doesn't have that kind of

2207
01:52:44,080 --> 01:52:47,560
Speaker 2: speed or anything else. How good can he be? And

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01:52:47,680 --> 01:52:50,519
Speaker 2: the one thing that I get back to is he's

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01:52:50,640 --> 01:52:53,960
Speaker 2: a leader. He is. He's a leader for sure. I

2210
01:52:54,040 --> 01:52:58,360
Speaker 2: mean you can hear it, you can see it. Yeah, No, he's.

2211
01:52:58,280 --> 01:53:02,840
Speaker 3: Definitely a leader. I think I remember when they picked him,

2212
01:53:03,280 --> 01:53:07,400
Speaker 3: when Philly picked him, I was confused. Yeah, nobody really

2213
01:53:07,400 --> 01:53:08,840
Speaker 3: thought he was going to play quarterback on it, so

2214
01:53:08,920 --> 01:53:12,479
Speaker 3: they were still on the win situation exactly. Nobody thought

2215
01:53:12,520 --> 01:53:15,640
Speaker 3: he'd be this and not this soon either. I mean,

2216
01:53:15,880 --> 01:53:19,080
Speaker 3: he's proved everybody wrong, I would say, I mean, obviously

2217
01:53:19,320 --> 01:53:23,000
Speaker 3: Philadelphia saw something, but outside of that, nobody really gave

2218
01:53:23,120 --> 01:53:24,800
Speaker 3: him a chance to be this and so I'm really

2219
01:53:24,840 --> 01:53:27,640
Speaker 3: happy for him, excited for him, and I want to

2220
01:53:27,680 --> 01:53:29,679
Speaker 3: see him do this again and I hope the success

2221
01:53:30,400 --> 01:53:30,920
Speaker 3: keeps going.

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01:53:31,120 --> 01:53:32,640
Speaker 2: Was that a smart play for the Eagles to give

2223
01:53:32,680 --> 01:53:36,360
Speaker 2: him that huge contract. I don't know, but you have to.

2224
01:53:36,560 --> 01:53:39,000
Speaker 2: I mean they have said this is it, he's our guy.

2225
01:53:39,200 --> 01:53:39,640
Speaker 7: You have to.

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01:53:39,960 --> 01:53:42,519
Speaker 2: He showed it. They then have to give him that contract.

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01:53:42,600 --> 01:53:44,880
Speaker 2: I mean I think they did because of the way

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01:53:44,960 --> 01:53:47,439
Speaker 2: he played and the way he led. Yeah, so just

2229
01:53:47,520 --> 01:53:50,240
Speaker 2: from that standpoint alone, I mean, the numbers ridiculous, right

2230
01:53:51,000 --> 01:53:53,200
Speaker 2: getting to the numbers, and that's for another conversation.

2231
01:53:53,400 --> 01:53:57,160
Speaker 3: But you saw this guy climb to where he did.

2232
01:53:57,400 --> 01:53:59,360
Speaker 3: He was in the MVP conversation until he got hurt,

2233
01:53:59,680 --> 01:54:01,720
Speaker 3: and the way he performed in the Super Bowl.

2234
01:54:01,840 --> 01:54:03,840
Speaker 2: Oh, he's the best player in the field except for

2235
01:54:03,960 --> 01:54:07,400
Speaker 2: one play which ended up costing the game. That guy

2236
01:54:07,800 --> 01:54:10,880
Speaker 2: one play. Yeah, all right. Coming up on the other side,

2237
01:54:10,880 --> 01:54:13,519
Speaker 2: we had another Superstars of the NFL we got to

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2248
01:54:49,320 --> 01:54:51,120
Speaker 2: Always want to thank the guys for all their help.

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01:54:51,200 --> 01:54:51,480
Speaker 1: Today.

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Speaker 2: Chris jumps in shorter term with you. We had a

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01:54:56,600 --> 01:55:00,360
Speaker 2: full weekend of you last week, Chris, like a full weekend. Yep,

2252
01:55:00,560 --> 01:55:03,160
Speaker 2: you were lucky back then. Yeah, you were running everything

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01:55:03,240 --> 01:55:08,040
Speaker 2: last week. So it's beautiful. Yeah, back to your normal cameo.

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01:55:08,880 --> 01:55:11,360
Speaker 8: Just just sitting up waiting for the Women's World Cup

2255
01:55:11,440 --> 01:55:13,200
Speaker 8: to start and get on soccer nos out.

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01:55:13,320 --> 01:55:17,480
Speaker 2: Yes, we'll share that for another week, maybe another day. Yeah,

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01:55:17,640 --> 01:55:20,520
Speaker 2: Women's World Cup ready to get under way, and I

2258
01:55:20,640 --> 01:55:22,720
Speaker 2: know that Nick Kobe is going to be all over that.

2259
01:55:22,960 --> 01:55:26,080
Speaker 2: You're a big fan of the women's World Cup. Team

2260
01:55:26,200 --> 01:55:29,880
Speaker 2: USA trying to become the first men's or women's team

2261
01:55:30,280 --> 01:55:32,760
Speaker 2: to win three consecutive World Cups. Yeah, that's right.

2262
01:55:32,840 --> 01:55:35,280
Speaker 8: So I think in the two thousands Germany was very close,

2263
01:55:35,320 --> 01:55:37,720
Speaker 8: but they got knocked out in the quarterfinals. So USA

2264
01:55:37,760 --> 01:55:40,320
Speaker 8: has got a chance here. But surprise, surprise, Germany is

2265
01:55:40,360 --> 01:55:41,920
Speaker 8: kind of the number two country in the in the

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01:55:42,000 --> 01:55:42,520
Speaker 8: world again.

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01:55:42,760 --> 01:55:46,080
Speaker 2: Brazil men won three out of four sixty two sixty six,

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01:55:46,280 --> 01:55:50,440
Speaker 2: and our sixty fifty eight, sixty two and seventy been

2269
01:55:50,480 --> 01:55:54,880
Speaker 2: not sixty six. Brandon, Brandon's been bringing all kinds of

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01:55:54,920 --> 01:55:59,040
Speaker 2: guests in here. I didn't realize you had such an entourage, Brandon,

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01:55:59,160 --> 01:55:59,960
Speaker 2: How is that possible?

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01:56:01,080 --> 01:56:01,760
Speaker 7: I have friends.

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01:56:02,000 --> 01:56:05,040
Speaker 2: I know you have friends, but it's not he said,

2274
01:56:05,880 --> 01:56:09,480
Speaker 2: it's like an entourage. I got friends. I like, that's

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01:56:09,640 --> 01:56:12,320
Speaker 2: that's a good look for you. Brandon'm very very very good.

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01:56:13,120 --> 01:56:16,000
Speaker 2: We were talking earlier, we never really got into depth.

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01:56:16,040 --> 01:56:17,920
Speaker 2: I want to do it right now about this mid

2278
01:56:18,000 --> 01:56:23,440
Speaker 2: season tournament in the NBA. Kerry the NBA Cup. You know,

2279
01:56:24,080 --> 01:56:27,240
Speaker 2: I can only imagine like a team like the Clippers.

2280
01:56:28,440 --> 01:56:30,720
Speaker 2: So the Clippers, of course will have their new arena,

2281
01:56:30,800 --> 01:56:32,680
Speaker 2: but they have at least one more year sharing now

2282
01:56:34,160 --> 01:56:37,960
Speaker 2: Crypto dot Com arena with the Lakers. So imagine if

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01:56:39,080 --> 01:56:43,000
Speaker 2: the Clippers win the NBA Cup and they put up

2284
01:56:43,040 --> 01:56:47,640
Speaker 2: a big banner, So the Lakers have seventeen NBA Championship

2285
01:56:47,680 --> 01:56:52,040
Speaker 2: banners on one side, and then the Clippers, I mean,

2286
01:56:52,080 --> 01:56:54,440
Speaker 2: Steve Bomber can make the biggest banner ever. I mean,

2287
01:56:54,480 --> 01:56:57,240
Speaker 2: you could have a banner cover a whole side for sure,

2288
01:56:57,440 --> 01:57:02,040
Speaker 2: and it says NBA cupchampions Yeah, we're going to celebrate it.

2289
01:57:02,800 --> 01:57:05,360
Speaker 2: We're going to celebrate it. Let me, let me get

2290
01:57:05,360 --> 01:57:08,880
Speaker 2: a player's perspective on this. Would you just be embarrassed

2291
01:57:08,920 --> 01:57:11,440
Speaker 2: by that or what? Yeah, that's not going up against

2292
01:57:12,120 --> 01:57:15,440
Speaker 2: these championship banners. That would be a little weird.

2293
01:57:15,920 --> 01:57:16,160
Speaker 5: I know.

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01:57:16,400 --> 01:57:18,760
Speaker 2: The I think the final game in those cups the

2295
01:57:18,800 --> 01:57:22,080
Speaker 2: stats don't even count. So no, the championship game, well,

2296
01:57:22,080 --> 01:57:25,360
Speaker 2: the other games. Basically, what they've decided to do was

2297
01:57:25,520 --> 01:57:28,960
Speaker 2: re label regular season games. It's tournament games, okay, so

2298
01:57:29,120 --> 01:57:32,200
Speaker 2: those will be counted as regular season games, which, by

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01:57:32,240 --> 01:57:34,840
Speaker 2: the way, means the teams that don't progress to the

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01:57:35,160 --> 01:57:40,760
Speaker 2: knockout round will have consolation games, essentially like a loser's bracket,

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01:57:41,040 --> 01:57:42,560
Speaker 2: because at the end of the day, everyone's got to

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01:57:42,560 --> 01:57:46,680
Speaker 2: play eighty two games. Yeah, that sounds terrible. That sounds terrible.

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01:57:46,760 --> 01:57:49,080
Speaker 2: I got a suggestion, because these games are going to

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01:57:49,120 --> 01:57:53,600
Speaker 2: be in November, which is opposite the NFL. Okay, let's

2305
01:57:54,040 --> 01:57:57,480
Speaker 2: let's get real here. Okay, here's the obvious solution for

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01:57:57,600 --> 01:58:01,320
Speaker 2: the NBA. How about moving your season back six weeks.

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01:58:02,840 --> 01:58:06,200
Speaker 2: So how about starting your season, let's say, around Christmas

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01:58:08,080 --> 01:58:11,560
Speaker 2: and ending your season at the end of July instead

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01:58:11,600 --> 01:58:15,560
Speaker 2: of the early part of June. If you were right now,

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01:58:15,960 --> 01:58:18,640
Speaker 2: as we get into the dog days of the baseball season,

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01:58:18,840 --> 01:58:22,200
Speaker 2: middle of the season, if the NBAS are going on

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01:58:22,480 --> 01:58:28,440
Speaker 2: right now, the NBA Finals, right trying to go head

2313
01:58:28,480 --> 01:58:31,160
Speaker 2: to head at any point of the season against the

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01:58:31,280 --> 01:58:37,120
Speaker 2: NFL is suicide for your league. So forget re labeling

2315
01:58:37,240 --> 01:58:40,480
Speaker 2: regular season games as tournament games, thinking anyone else is

2316
01:58:40,520 --> 01:58:43,280
Speaker 2: going to watch anything that's not NFL related in the

2317
01:58:43,360 --> 01:58:46,400
Speaker 2: month of November. And how about moving your season back.

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01:58:46,800 --> 01:58:49,520
Speaker 3: Well, they at least they're putting the games on the

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01:58:49,640 --> 01:58:51,879
Speaker 3: days the games aren't played in the NFL, so they're.

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01:58:51,680 --> 01:58:55,800
Speaker 2: Going to nomatter. We're still talking NFL Tuesday and Friday, Sea.

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01:58:55,880 --> 01:58:59,240
Speaker 2: They're still they're doing something to try to combat out

2322
01:58:59,320 --> 01:59:01,960
Speaker 2: little coverage we give to the NBA in the month

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01:59:02,040 --> 01:59:05,839
Speaker 2: of November. I do know that once the NFL season starts,

2324
01:59:06,120 --> 01:59:11,520
Speaker 2: it's nothing else NBA and college football football rules. That

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01:59:11,680 --> 01:59:13,920
Speaker 2: is true, and it's not going to be any more

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01:59:13,920 --> 01:59:16,960
Speaker 2: eyeballs on it, for sure. We know because the idea is,

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01:59:17,240 --> 01:59:19,840
Speaker 2: if you're already an NBA fan, you're going to watch

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Speaker 2: the games anyway exactly, so you're not creating new excitement

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Speaker 2: around who is going to ditch the NFL because an

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Speaker 2: NBA cut playoff game is on nobody.

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Speaker 3: But they think if you get that de facto day

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Speaker 3: off Tuesday Friday in between sandwiched in there, you may

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Speaker 3: get a few.

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Speaker 2: Occasional glance a regular season that I'm with you, But

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, that's that's the thinking anyway. I

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Speaker 2: just look, I'm an NBA fan. I don't need some

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Speaker 2: kind of Koka Mamy, you know, window dressing. I'll watch

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Speaker 2: the NBA. We got a good matchup I'll watch in November. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I want to see certain players, certain teams. Carry good stuff.

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Speaker 2: Today man always always great. We got to do a

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Speaker 2: doubleheader one of these days. Whenever you want. We're just

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Speaker 2: getting started here. Don't go anywhere. Much more coming up.

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