WEBVTT - TechStuff Sets its VCR

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<v Speaker 1>It's ready. Are you get in touch with technology? With

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<v Speaker 1>tech Stuff from how stuff works dot com. Hello everyone,

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<v Speaker 1>and welcome to tech Stuff. My name is Chris Poulette

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<v Speaker 1>and I am an editor and how stuff works dot

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<v Speaker 1>Com with a cold. Excuse me sitting across from me

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<v Speaker 1>as always his senior writer Jonathan Strickland behind every Man

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<v Speaker 1>Now a Live stand. Thirty ghosts for that is the

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<v Speaker 1>ratio by which the dead outnumber the living. That sounds ominous, Yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's totally ominous because I also have a cold.

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<v Speaker 1>So we would like to apologize to our listeners beforehand

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<v Speaker 1>for all the awkward pauses, coughs, clearing of throats, sneezes,

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<v Speaker 1>and other shenanigans that are going to happen as a

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<v Speaker 1>result of both of us having a cold at the

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<v Speaker 1>same time, and the one juvenile joke because you may

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<v Speaker 1>think it's funny, but it's not anyway, and Jonathan's giving

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<v Speaker 1>me an now he's beating his head on the microphone again.

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<v Speaker 1>So yes, um, today we're going to talk about the

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<v Speaker 1>video cassette recorder. Why, Chris, why would we ever talk

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<v Speaker 1>about the video cassette recorder, a technology that is almost

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<v Speaker 1>forgotten about today. Yeah, that's the problem. Uh yeah. A

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<v Speaker 1>while back, Uh my father uhs VCR. He he had

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<v Speaker 1>it to uh plugged in and during a summer thunderstorm

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<v Speaker 1>or as we call it in the South, a week day, Yes, um,

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<v Speaker 1>a power surge atomized the transformer inside the VCR. Sadly,

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<v Speaker 1>this did not give the VCR superpowers where it then

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<v Speaker 1>went on to fight villains and you know, various locations

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<v Speaker 1>around the world. That's what happens in the comics, right,

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<v Speaker 1>lightning atomization superpowers. Really real life lightning atomization computers and

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<v Speaker 1>or people don't work very anymore. Yeah. So, so basically,

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<v Speaker 1>the the power, the thing that makes the power work,

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<v Speaker 1>and the VCR is now gone. And I said, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, it would be cheaper to get a new

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<v Speaker 1>VCR than it would be to fix this one, which

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<v Speaker 1>is very likely true, which is which is often true

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<v Speaker 1>with electronics. So I recycled it. And my my father

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<v Speaker 1>has a lot of old videotapes that he wants to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to watch. I thought, oh, I'm gonna go

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<v Speaker 1>get him a VCR. I'll just go down to the

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<v Speaker 1>department store and pick one up. As it turns out, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I won't because you can't find them anymore on most

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<v Speaker 1>store shelves. Um even even electronics stores. Yeah they they

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<v Speaker 1>If you find one, you're you're not going to have

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<v Speaker 1>your choice. Yeah, I mean, well one or two maybe.

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<v Speaker 1>But but it's not like it was where like say

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<v Speaker 1>you go look for a smartphone, you have a display

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<v Speaker 1>of smartphones to choose from, You have different carriers to

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<v Speaker 1>choose from. Even even looking for something like a Blu

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<v Speaker 1>ray player or or even a DVD player, there's there

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<v Speaker 1>are a hand full of them to choose from. If not,

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<v Speaker 1>uh you know, pretty good sized display. But where that

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<v Speaker 1>used to be the case with VCRs, uh, it is

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<v Speaker 1>not so much the case. And I was thinking, he

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm they're so they're so disposable. I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>there's gonna be a tiny little VCR that I can

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<v Speaker 1>I can get. It doesn't have to be Hi Fi,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. No, No, they're gone. And I was started thinking,

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<v Speaker 1>who when did they stop making these things? Because I

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<v Speaker 1>just figured that everybody there are enough videotapes out there

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<v Speaker 1>that somebody would still make one. I mean, hey, they

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<v Speaker 1>do it with turntables and people don't. People are starting

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<v Speaker 1>to collect vinyl again. But you know, it almost disappeared

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<v Speaker 1>for a long time there after the CD became popular.

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<v Speaker 1>So I started thinking, and we should look at the

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<v Speaker 1>VCR and and see if we can uncover what happened

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<v Speaker 1>to it. Um. But I think first we sort of

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<v Speaker 1>need to get it back into the technology. And uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's something that again, uh is something that I thought

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<v Speaker 1>if it went back to a certain point maybe in

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<v Speaker 1>the early eighties, uh, mid seven and needs, but it

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<v Speaker 1>really goes back, uh decades before into the nine really. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>now to really set the scene back at this time,

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<v Speaker 1>the way that that you would capture images was using film.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, and we've talked about film quite a bit

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<v Speaker 1>in this podcast even recently where we talked about, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>to use using a chemical reaction where exposing a a

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<v Speaker 1>a film that's coated in chemicals to light activates those chemicals.

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<v Speaker 1>You then process that film with other chemicals to make

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<v Speaker 1>a negative image, not one that is you know, bad

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<v Speaker 1>or ugly, but is negative in this anyway. You've heard

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<v Speaker 1>those podcasts, so right, So even capturing film motion picture

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<v Speaker 1>film was done through this way, and the way you

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<v Speaker 1>would capture sound is you would use, through various means,

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<v Speaker 1>a magnetic tape, and in the way motion picture film

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<v Speaker 1>was working was that you would have a strip of

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<v Speaker 1>magnetic tape that ran down the side of the film

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<v Speaker 1>that was arranged in such a way so that the

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<v Speaker 1>sound you were hearing and the images you were seeing

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<v Speaker 1>were synchronized. So someone came up came up with the

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<v Speaker 1>idea and said, hey, wait a minute, we were putting

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<v Speaker 1>sound on magnetic tape, what if we put pictures on

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<v Speaker 1>magnetic tape too? And that became the quest to create

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<v Speaker 1>the the what would become the VCR. But really at

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<v Speaker 1>first it was just getting video onto magnetic tape, and

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<v Speaker 1>there were a lot of challenges associated with that. One

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<v Speaker 1>of the big ones being that that video information, the

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<v Speaker 1>the image information, took up a lot more space than

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<v Speaker 1>audio information did. So you had to find a new

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<v Speaker 1>way to encode that information and put it onto tape

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<v Speaker 1>so it wasn't going to take up too much space. Otherwise,

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<v Speaker 1>what you would have is a mile long tape that

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<v Speaker 1>would be maybe oh a couple of minutes worth of

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<v Speaker 1>video because it had it quared so much space to

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<v Speaker 1>record all that information. Well, people shouldn't be too terribly

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<v Speaker 1>unfamiliar with this this problem. I mean, uh we deal

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<v Speaker 1>with that every day. In the internet. Uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>broadband connections can give you full motion video. You can

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<v Speaker 1>uh play games with very low latency where you can

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<v Speaker 1>uh count on being able to round a corner and

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<v Speaker 1>get a shot off at your opponent before uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you you freeze and then find out that you died

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<v Speaker 1>because there wasn't anything you could do. Um, we have

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<v Speaker 1>the same we have the same problem with uh, well,

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<v Speaker 1>with DSL connections. You know that the voice uses a

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<v Speaker 1>certain amount of of the uh telephone line's capacity, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's how they use uh the telephone mine to carry

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<v Speaker 1>the Internet is is there's this unused capacity and that's

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<v Speaker 1>how um, that's how DSL works. And you know, kind

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<v Speaker 1>of simplified sure, um, you know, but anybody who's looked

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<v Speaker 1>at an audio cassette and a video cassette knows can

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<v Speaker 1>see exactly what you're talking about, Jonath, because uh an

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<v Speaker 1>audio cassette is uses a much narrower piece of tape

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<v Speaker 1>um than a video cassette can. But there are other

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<v Speaker 1>challenges too, I mean, uh, it sort of depends on

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<v Speaker 1>how much video you want to capture a video cassette

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<v Speaker 1>can be recorded in a number of different quality levels

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<v Speaker 1>and UM to fit when once you've standardized on a

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<v Speaker 1>cassette size, uh, and then you start adding time to it. Oh, well,

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<v Speaker 1>this one can do eight hours instead of six hours

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<v Speaker 1>if you recorded at the correct quality. Then you start

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<v Speaker 1>having to talk about the tape's thickness because the tape

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<v Speaker 1>won't fit in the cassette won't fit in the machine

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<v Speaker 1>if you leave the tape at the same size, and

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<v Speaker 1>it won't work the same way inside the cassette. So

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<v Speaker 1>something has to give. UM. But we could talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the mechanics of that in a moment. We were going

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about the history and so back in the yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and before that of course, uh as as pretty much

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<v Speaker 1>everyone knows we have live TV. UM. You know you

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<v Speaker 1>burps and gaffs and things that fall over and all.

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<v Speaker 1>You might have a a famous Hollywood actor think that

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<v Speaker 1>what he's doing as a walk through rehearsal instead of

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<v Speaker 1>the actual, uh, the actual program which did happen with

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was a Lawn Cheney Jr. Really yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he was supposed to apparently, Um. Mr Cheney was somewhat

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<v Speaker 1>the worse for wear because he had um had a

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<v Speaker 1>little had a little little drinking pooh, and thought that

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<v Speaker 1>he was going in for a rehearsal for something that

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<v Speaker 1>he was doing, and there was a fight scene and

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<v Speaker 1>in the fight scene he's supposed to pick up a

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<v Speaker 1>chair and it's breakaway chair slammed across the back of

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<v Speaker 1>someone and knocked them unconscious. He, thinking it was rehearsal,

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<v Speaker 1>not realizing it was going out live, picked up the chair,

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<v Speaker 1>went through the motion as if he was going to

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<v Speaker 1>swing the chair, then very gingerly set the chair back

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<v Speaker 1>down where it was supposed to be. And I actually

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<v Speaker 1>have this on DVD somewhere, so I'll have to see

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<v Speaker 1>if I can dig that up. But anyway, yeah, it

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<v Speaker 1>was live TV. It wasn't It was and something that

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<v Speaker 1>people could mess with and edit things out, and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know it went out warts and all. Well. A

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<v Speaker 1>couple of guys working for Ampex, which is again a

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<v Speaker 1>familiar name for people who've worked with professional recording equipment

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<v Speaker 1>UM named Charles Ginsberg and Ray Dolby, UH worked on

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<v Speaker 1>the first commercial real to real video tape recorder and

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<v Speaker 1>that would be Uh. It looks very similar to a

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<v Speaker 1>real to real audio recorder. This was around nineteen six

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<v Speaker 1>and uh completely revolutionized the TV industry because at this

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<v Speaker 1>point you could record a TV broadcast to be played

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<v Speaker 1>at a later time. So if you had something like

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<v Speaker 1>Mr Mr Cheney's gaff, uh happened and you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>could go back and do it again if you needed to. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>But before that everything was live and this this really

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<v Speaker 1>changed things for the industry. Of course, these machines were

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<v Speaker 1>were not inexpensive. Uh, they were not any as they

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<v Speaker 1>later became UM. And so it was really sort of

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<v Speaker 1>the exclusive world of uh, you know, professional TV people

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<v Speaker 1>who are using this kind of equipment, and that would

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<v Speaker 1>that would remain the case for decades. Yeah, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>in uh it was nine one Sony came up with

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<v Speaker 1>the first inexpensive VCR. Expensive again meaning industry not consumer. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>In nineteen seventy one, Sony had the U Matic system

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<v Speaker 1>right right, U M A T I C. And that

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<v Speaker 1>was almost exclusively restricted to commercial use. Yeah. They used

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<v Speaker 1>the wider tape and had had the advantage of being

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<v Speaker 1>very high quality. UM. But it was it was much

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<v Speaker 1>larger than what we use today. Uh. You know, those

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<v Speaker 1>of us who still have working videotape players. Um, but

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<v Speaker 1>it was it was really the mid seventies when the

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<v Speaker 1>equipment became inexpensive enough. Yeah, yeah, I actually have something

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<v Speaker 1>kind of fun fun to say before we get the

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<v Speaker 1>mid Sea yea in nine. This is the first time

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<v Speaker 1>we have a consumer video cassette recorder of This is

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<v Speaker 1>not a VHS or BETA. It's using the same basic

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<v Speaker 1>technology but different format. So the very first consumer VCR

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<v Speaker 1>from my research, was a Phillips Model fifteen hundred, which

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<v Speaker 1>came out in the United Kingdom, of all places, in

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen seventy two. Phillips is a British company. Our pals

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<v Speaker 1>in the United Kingdom. Do you get that? Pal? Ah? Nice,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you. There's nothing you can do with NTSC No, no,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll talk about that in a minute. But um yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>They managed to get their hands on one in nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>seventy two, and it cost the Princely some of six

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<v Speaker 1>hundred forty nine pounds in nineteen seventy two. And I

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<v Speaker 1>know what you're thinking, Chris, You're thinking, gosh, Jonathan, how

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<v Speaker 1>much would that be in today's dollars? So you would

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<v Speaker 1>have to convert pounds into dollars and then used an

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<v Speaker 1>inflation calculator. Who has time to do that? Will? Sir?

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<v Speaker 1>I tell you I had time to do that this morning.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyone with Wolf from Alpha, which will do it for

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<v Speaker 1>you automatically. I didn't use Wolf from So the answer

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<v Speaker 1>Wolf from Alpha gives may be different from the one

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<v Speaker 1>I have, but based upon the historical currency Conversion website,

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<v Speaker 1>sixty nine pounds in nineteen seventy two would be equivalent

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<v Speaker 1>to nine thousand, eighty seven dollars today. So just shy

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<v Speaker 1>of ten grand the very first consumer video cassette recorder. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 1>Chriss is looking at Wolf from Alpha as we record

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<v Speaker 1>this to see how how far apart the two conversions are.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have an answer from Wolf from Alpha? Why

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<v Speaker 1>did I get six? Okay? Six? This is good radio

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<v Speaker 1>right here? Oh? I know it is. Well, that's the thing,

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<v Speaker 1>is it? It shows you how expensive this device was

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<v Speaker 1>at the time. I mean, it's not something that everybody

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<v Speaker 1>had in there. Tim Grhant to drop on a VCR. Yeah. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>do you have an answer? No? Because I did it wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>So all right, we'll just have to ignore it. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure some listener will be very helpfully let us know. Anyhow, So, um,

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<v Speaker 1>so yeah, it wasn't until the mid seventies when VHS

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<v Speaker 1>made its debut. Yeah. Actually, uh. In well, in Japan

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<v Speaker 1>it came out in seventy six, but in the United

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<v Speaker 1>States we had to wait till seventy seven before it

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<v Speaker 1>came over here. And before that, Sony had come out

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<v Speaker 1>with a competing standard, the Beta standard. Yes, so Beta

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<v Speaker 1>had been on the market for a year before VHS

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<v Speaker 1>managed it to come to store shelves. Uh. And so

0:13:42.200 --> 0:13:44.600
<v Speaker 1>there were there was the videotape wars, which I think

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<v Speaker 1>we've actually talked about in a previous episode we have.

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<v Speaker 1>And and of course Beta as short as someone else

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<v Speaker 1>will point out as short for Beta max UM and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>but you really didn't compete for for quite a while. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course Uh. Beta max is still used or was

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<v Speaker 1>used for a long time in um TV work, even

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<v Speaker 1>after it failed as a standard that you would see

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<v Speaker 1>on the store shelves at your local video rental place. Right.

0:14:13.120 --> 0:14:16.960
<v Speaker 1>The biggest differentiator between the two, at least early on,

0:14:17.480 --> 0:14:24.520
<v Speaker 1>was that well, Beta had a slightly better resolution than VHS,

0:14:24.880 --> 0:14:28.880
<v Speaker 1>but only slightly. I mean, the difference wasn't as dramatic

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<v Speaker 1>as say VHS to DVD, but it was there, it

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<v Speaker 1>did have a higher quality image, and also it could

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<v Speaker 1>only record up to two hours, and VHS the big

0:14:39.080 --> 0:14:41.120
<v Speaker 1>thing about that was it could record up to four hours,

0:14:41.760 --> 0:14:45.240
<v Speaker 1>so that that really helped push VHS over Beta, even

0:14:45.280 --> 0:14:49.400
<v Speaker 1>though since Beta had been on the market for a year,

0:14:49.440 --> 0:14:51.680
<v Speaker 1>they had managed to bring their prices down, so when

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<v Speaker 1>VHS first launched, it was actually more expensive, right right. Well, um,

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<v Speaker 1>here again, the the average consumer is is going to

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<v Speaker 1>look at it and go, well, I can I can

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<v Speaker 1>buy blank video cassettes for a VHS machine and record

0:15:07.360 --> 0:15:11.480
<v Speaker 1>more video on it. Uh to allow me to record

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<v Speaker 1>more myself, and therefore this is a better value for me,

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<v Speaker 1>even though the marginal difference in quality might make me

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<v Speaker 1>think about a Beta max machine. And the VHS standard

0:15:20.560 --> 0:15:24.200
<v Speaker 1>was introduced by j VC, yes, and that's also going

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<v Speaker 1>to be important in a little bit. But j v

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<v Speaker 1>C the first model they introduced in the United States

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<v Speaker 1>was the hr Dash thirty three hundred, which cost one

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<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars in nineteen which in today's money three thousand

0:15:38.920 --> 0:15:43.480
<v Speaker 1>five dollars. Yeah, that's a that's a healthy chunk of

0:15:43.600 --> 0:15:46.480
<v Speaker 1>change to drop on the VCR. Yeah, and it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>amazing too, because a lot of these machines were top loaders.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember that, Yeah, you'd popped the door open, slide

0:15:54.000 --> 0:15:57.040
<v Speaker 1>the cassette in, and then pushed the top of the

0:15:57.080 --> 0:15:59.760
<v Speaker 1>door down back into the video player. I had one

0:15:59.760 --> 0:16:03.400
<v Speaker 1>of the yeah, and this was um. You know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>interesting to think of that because I think the last

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<v Speaker 1>time I actually went shopping for a VCR, I was

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<v Speaker 1>just looking for for one to because I've got tapes

0:16:11.240 --> 0:16:12.480
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to be able to play them. This was

0:16:12.560 --> 0:16:15.400
<v Speaker 1>years ago, but I remember running across models that were

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<v Speaker 1>like thirty or forty dollars. So to think of it

0:16:17.760 --> 0:16:21.520
<v Speaker 1>as being almost well, thirty five bucks in today's money

0:16:21.560 --> 0:16:25.400
<v Speaker 1>back then. Uh, that's kind of kind of mind blowing

0:16:25.480 --> 0:16:28.560
<v Speaker 1>right there. And of course, uh you might say, okay,

0:16:28.560 --> 0:16:34.920
<v Speaker 1>so what happened between nineteen fifty six and nineteen seventy six, Uh, well,

0:16:35.360 --> 0:16:37.120
<v Speaker 1>one of the there were there were several things that happened.

0:16:37.160 --> 0:16:40.840
<v Speaker 1>Of course, the like all technology, it seems like people

0:16:40.840 --> 0:16:44.520
<v Speaker 1>find out better ways to achieve the same effect. So

0:16:44.600 --> 0:16:48.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, gradually these machines are getting smaller, they're getting lighter, Uh,

0:16:48.560 --> 0:16:51.120
<v Speaker 1>the qualities going up. They're getting more affordable as as

0:16:51.160 --> 0:16:53.600
<v Speaker 1>people can mass produce them in greater quantities. But there

0:16:53.640 --> 0:16:56.760
<v Speaker 1>was also something else, uh that that is common with

0:16:56.800 --> 0:16:58.920
<v Speaker 1>this kind of technology, and there were people that just

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<v Speaker 1>didn't want VCRs on on people's home entertainment shelves. Are

0:17:04.960 --> 0:17:10.280
<v Speaker 1>you talking about organizations like the Motion Picture Association of America. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>so you've got these organizations that were legitimately concerned that

0:17:15.720 --> 0:17:20.120
<v Speaker 1>home access to this kind of technology would mean a hit.

0:17:20.240 --> 0:17:22.800
<v Speaker 1>It would take the organization. Organization would take a hit,

0:17:22.840 --> 0:17:25.320
<v Speaker 1>the whole movie industry would take a hit, as people

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<v Speaker 1>would refrain from going out to the movies and instead

0:17:29.480 --> 0:17:32.560
<v Speaker 1>watch things from their homes. Same sort of concern was

0:17:32.680 --> 0:17:36.359
<v Speaker 1>from the television industry. If you didn't require people to

0:17:36.400 --> 0:17:39.280
<v Speaker 1>be at a certain place at a certain time, then

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<v Speaker 1>how can you guarantee that your advertisers are spending the

0:17:43.400 --> 0:17:48.199
<v Speaker 1>right amount of money for advertisements during that slot on TV? Oh?

0:17:48.520 --> 0:17:51.800
<v Speaker 1>Oh but what but what? But what happens? I ask

0:17:51.880 --> 0:17:54.679
<v Speaker 1>you when when your favorite one of your favorite movies

0:17:54.760 --> 0:17:57.359
<v Speaker 1>comes on on the local station, you could record it

0:17:57.359 --> 0:18:00.760
<v Speaker 1>yourself and then never have to go see it again.

0:18:01.760 --> 0:18:03.480
<v Speaker 1>You could watch it again any time you want it.

0:18:03.640 --> 0:18:07.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah that's not cool. Yeah, So these were real arguments

0:18:07.320 --> 0:18:09.040
<v Speaker 1>that were brought up against it. That was one of

0:18:09.080 --> 0:18:11.240
<v Speaker 1>the reasons why it took a while for this stuff

0:18:11.280 --> 0:18:13.000
<v Speaker 1>to get to market, was just because there was a

0:18:13.000 --> 0:18:17.159
<v Speaker 1>big resistance on the part of the content providers. So

0:18:17.600 --> 0:18:20.520
<v Speaker 1>it seems like that happens every time there's there's something

0:18:20.600 --> 0:18:23.400
<v Speaker 1>that's one of these revolutions in technology. If this episode

0:18:23.440 --> 0:18:26.000
<v Speaker 1>we're all about digital video recorders, it would be the

0:18:26.040 --> 0:18:31.400
<v Speaker 1>same story. Or audio cassettessettes. I mean, really, any any

0:18:31.400 --> 0:18:33.440
<v Speaker 1>time you get to any kind of medium where you're

0:18:33.840 --> 0:18:38.359
<v Speaker 1>permanently putting something down. Yeah, yeah, there there are people

0:18:38.400 --> 0:18:40.600
<v Speaker 1>who are saying, wait a minute, how are we going

0:18:40.600 --> 0:18:42.600
<v Speaker 1>to make money now? Well? Yeah, I mean that it

0:18:42.640 --> 0:18:46.720
<v Speaker 1>gave rise to uh to these industries. They were able

0:18:46.720 --> 0:18:48.480
<v Speaker 1>to record it the first time and then they could

0:18:48.720 --> 0:18:51.000
<v Speaker 1>show it to you or play it for you any

0:18:51.000 --> 0:18:55.359
<v Speaker 1>other time for a fee. Yeah. They were the two

0:18:55.400 --> 0:18:57.840
<v Speaker 1>major industries popped up because of this. You had the

0:18:57.840 --> 0:19:01.760
<v Speaker 1>rental industry. Yes, so companies like Blockbuster and all the

0:19:01.800 --> 0:19:04.720
<v Speaker 1>other rental agencies out there that could rent out video tapes.

0:19:04.960 --> 0:19:08.000
<v Speaker 1>They would not exist without this. And then secondly you

0:19:08.040 --> 0:19:11.840
<v Speaker 1>had just the home theater market industry, people who were

0:19:11.960 --> 0:19:16.240
<v Speaker 1>purchasing tapes so that they could own these movies that

0:19:16.320 --> 0:19:20.320
<v Speaker 1>they loved in a more permanent fashion, instead of being like, oh,

0:19:20.400 --> 0:19:22.880
<v Speaker 1>I saw this great movie in the theater five years ago.

0:19:22.960 --> 0:19:25.600
<v Speaker 1>It's called Star Wars. I really wish that I could

0:19:25.640 --> 0:19:27.840
<v Speaker 1>watch it again, but no theater is showing it, and

0:19:27.880 --> 0:19:30.919
<v Speaker 1>there's no I mean, why would a theater release it again. Well,

0:19:30.960 --> 0:19:33.640
<v Speaker 1>suddenly this created a whole new market for these old films.

0:19:33.800 --> 0:19:37.360
<v Speaker 1>So once the industries realized this, they started to reverse

0:19:37.440 --> 0:19:41.000
<v Speaker 1>their decision. Oh now, I get it, and they made

0:19:41.280 --> 0:19:46.840
<v Speaker 1>stupid amounts of money on Oh. I remember buying UH movies,

0:19:47.119 --> 0:19:50.280
<v Speaker 1>movies when they first came out on video cassette, and

0:19:50.280 --> 0:19:54.399
<v Speaker 1>they were exorbitant for a film. Well, and in a

0:19:54.480 --> 0:19:56.960
<v Speaker 1>lot of cases that was because those movies were priced

0:19:57.040 --> 0:19:59.920
<v Speaker 1>for rental agencies, so that you would have a cup

0:20:00.000 --> 0:20:02.400
<v Speaker 1>any like Blockbuster. I always use that one because that's

0:20:02.400 --> 0:20:05.240
<v Speaker 1>the one that most people are familiar with. But Blockbuster

0:20:05.320 --> 0:20:08.359
<v Speaker 1>would say, all right, we'll pay a hundred dollars per

0:20:09.200 --> 0:20:12.480
<v Speaker 1>UH copy of this film, and then we'll make it

0:20:12.560 --> 0:20:15.280
<v Speaker 1>up by renting it out to X number of customers,

0:20:15.359 --> 0:20:18.399
<v Speaker 1>and so it will take us, you know, a certain

0:20:18.520 --> 0:20:21.560
<v Speaker 1>number of times before we make our money. Back. But

0:20:21.640 --> 0:20:24.280
<v Speaker 1>after that, it's all profit as long as that tape

0:20:24.560 --> 0:20:26.560
<v Speaker 1>is undamaged, you know, as long of that tape is

0:20:26.560 --> 0:20:30.960
<v Speaker 1>is is lendable. Yeah, so, uh yeah. There were a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of videotapes that never went on sale for a

0:20:33.720 --> 0:20:38.280
<v Speaker 1>price that the average consumer would consider reasonable because it

0:20:38.320 --> 0:20:40.880
<v Speaker 1>was never meant for the mass market. It was meant

0:20:40.880 --> 0:20:43.200
<v Speaker 1>for the rental agency market. One of the movies, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a movie that I talk about among my friends all

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<v Speaker 1>the time called Blood Salvage. The tagline is if Jake

0:20:49.800 --> 0:20:52.920
<v Speaker 1>can't fix it, it's been dead too long. It was

0:20:52.960 --> 0:20:58.240
<v Speaker 1>a gothic Southern horror movie about a a guy who

0:20:58.320 --> 0:21:03.040
<v Speaker 1>runs a wrecking facility. He Um. He has drives an

0:21:03.080 --> 0:21:07.200
<v Speaker 1>old tow truck and he um salvages parts from from

0:21:07.320 --> 0:21:12.840
<v Speaker 1>vehicles and people. Anyway, I was an extra in this film.

0:21:13.080 --> 0:21:14.840
<v Speaker 1>Don't even bother trying to find it if you want

0:21:14.840 --> 0:21:16.800
<v Speaker 1>to look for me, because you first you don't know

0:21:16.800 --> 0:21:18.920
<v Speaker 1>what I looked like when I was twelve and two.

0:21:19.400 --> 0:21:21.720
<v Speaker 1>You would have to have eagle eyes and your hand

0:21:21.760 --> 0:21:25.080
<v Speaker 1>on the pause because it's gone in a flash. But anyway,

0:21:25.920 --> 0:21:28.400
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to copy this movie because I actually enjoyed it.

0:21:28.400 --> 0:21:32.480
<v Speaker 1>It's a goofy horror movie, can't be tongue in cheek

0:21:33.320 --> 0:21:35.760
<v Speaker 1>kind of gross, you know, right up my alley. Right,

0:21:36.680 --> 0:21:40.600
<v Speaker 1>So I went looking for it the only place. Finally

0:21:40.680 --> 0:21:42.960
<v Speaker 1>I got it on eBay when someone got it from

0:21:43.000 --> 0:21:46.680
<v Speaker 1>like a fire sale from some rental company. But yeah,

0:21:46.760 --> 0:21:51.159
<v Speaker 1>that's why those those tapes were that expensive. Soe alright,

0:21:51.200 --> 0:21:53.080
<v Speaker 1>So the VHS has been on the market for just

0:21:53.240 --> 0:21:58.800
<v Speaker 1>four years or so, in VHS made up sev of

0:21:58.920 --> 0:22:03.159
<v Speaker 1>all cassette sales. By then Beta had dropped down to

0:22:05.320 --> 0:22:08.399
<v Speaker 1>and it was all VHS from there on out until

0:22:09.440 --> 0:22:12.880
<v Speaker 1>really the late nineties nineties, and it didn't really start

0:22:12.960 --> 0:22:15.080
<v Speaker 1>dropping off until the two thousand's. But we'll get into

0:22:15.119 --> 0:22:18.240
<v Speaker 1>that after we talk about how this stuff works. Yeah,

0:22:18.280 --> 0:22:20.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's that's one of the important things too,

0:22:20.920 --> 0:22:24.000
<v Speaker 1>is UM in general, these machines all kind of work

0:22:24.080 --> 0:22:27.840
<v Speaker 1>the same. We're talking about Beta max and U uh,

0:22:27.880 --> 0:22:31.640
<v Speaker 1>you know three quarter for the television industry, UM, three

0:22:31.680 --> 0:22:36.480
<v Speaker 1>quarter inch UM for VHS. There basically, they're all a

0:22:36.760 --> 0:22:39.359
<v Speaker 1>reel of magnetic tape inside a cassette. And that's one

0:22:39.400 --> 0:22:43.199
<v Speaker 1>of the cool things about video cassette recorders is that

0:22:44.119 --> 0:22:46.640
<v Speaker 1>these devices, I mean, and I talked about the cassettes.

0:22:46.680 --> 0:22:50.480
<v Speaker 1>The cassettes themselves are designed to protect the tape, which

0:22:50.520 --> 0:22:55.200
<v Speaker 1>is necessary because uh, certain young people I know would

0:22:55.400 --> 0:22:58.359
<v Speaker 1>gladly reach in and grab the tape and pull it

0:22:58.480 --> 0:23:00.080
<v Speaker 1>right out of the cassette if it was possible to

0:23:00.119 --> 0:23:02.320
<v Speaker 1>do so easily. Um, it is if you know what

0:23:02.359 --> 0:23:05.120
<v Speaker 1>you're doing. But it's got protections on it to keep

0:23:05.119 --> 0:23:08.680
<v Speaker 1>it from getting stuff spilled on it or getting spooked

0:23:08.920 --> 0:23:12.679
<v Speaker 1>on something by accident. Um, So it's very wise of

0:23:12.720 --> 0:23:16.600
<v Speaker 1>the people who made these cassettes to build in some protections.

0:23:16.600 --> 0:23:20.000
<v Speaker 1>It's got a little door and if you hit a cassette,

0:23:20.040 --> 0:23:22.680
<v Speaker 1>if you hit the little button, springloaded button, you can

0:23:22.720 --> 0:23:26.640
<v Speaker 1>pull the door open and actually look at the tape. Um.

0:23:26.840 --> 0:23:28.800
<v Speaker 1>But it's got, you know, two reels the tape. The

0:23:28.800 --> 0:23:31.080
<v Speaker 1>tape starts on one side, moves to the other side,

0:23:31.119 --> 0:23:34.159
<v Speaker 1>but it's the cassette also has some features to to

0:23:34.280 --> 0:23:37.439
<v Speaker 1>prevent that from being done casually. Yeah, there's some spring

0:23:37.520 --> 0:23:41.320
<v Speaker 1>loaded uh brakes on there that have to be engaged

0:23:41.400 --> 0:23:44.080
<v Speaker 1>in order for them to release the tape. And the

0:23:44.160 --> 0:23:47.080
<v Speaker 1>VCR actually has a little pin or a pair of

0:23:47.119 --> 0:23:50.280
<v Speaker 1>pins relate that that insert into the bottom of the

0:23:50.320 --> 0:23:55.520
<v Speaker 1>tape that releases that spring loaded brake. Otherwise it's much

0:23:55.560 --> 0:23:59.159
<v Speaker 1>more difficult. If you've ever tried to manually wind a

0:23:59.720 --> 0:24:03.200
<v Speaker 1>v A chest tape, you realize this isn't moving very

0:24:03.240 --> 0:24:05.479
<v Speaker 1>easily at all. It doesn't work like an audio cassette

0:24:05.480 --> 0:24:07.800
<v Speaker 1>where you can take a pencil and yeah and rewind

0:24:07.840 --> 0:24:10.520
<v Speaker 1>it that like, especially if if the tape had come

0:24:10.560 --> 0:24:13.480
<v Speaker 1>out a little bit. Yeah, boy, I've had fun with those.

0:24:14.080 --> 0:24:19.040
<v Speaker 1>Um So. Also, the the information that stored on this

0:24:19.119 --> 0:24:24.520
<v Speaker 1>magnetic tape is not recorded linearly left to right or

0:24:24.640 --> 0:24:27.160
<v Speaker 1>right to left. It's if you did that, the tape

0:24:27.160 --> 0:24:31.440
<v Speaker 1>would have to be enormous because, like we said that,

0:24:31.440 --> 0:24:35.320
<v Speaker 1>that visual information takes a lot of space. So this

0:24:35.400 --> 0:24:37.880
<v Speaker 1>was one of the clever ideas that the video cassette

0:24:37.920 --> 0:24:41.119
<v Speaker 1>industry came up with early on, was instead of recording

0:24:41.119 --> 0:24:43.439
<v Speaker 1>it like a straight line, like imagine you have a

0:24:43.520 --> 0:24:47.720
<v Speaker 1>really wide sheet of paper, all right, So it's like

0:24:47.880 --> 0:24:50.119
<v Speaker 1>a roll of paper maybe yeah, like a roll of paper,

0:24:50.119 --> 0:24:52.160
<v Speaker 1>and you've you've rolled it out from left to right

0:24:52.200 --> 0:24:55.400
<v Speaker 1>and you're going to write a message. Well you cut

0:24:55.400 --> 0:24:58.280
<v Speaker 1>off cut off at ten feet, all right, So at

0:24:58.280 --> 0:25:01.400
<v Speaker 1>ten feet you're writing and you can only write one

0:25:01.480 --> 0:25:04.200
<v Speaker 1>line from left to right. You can't you can't go

0:25:04.320 --> 0:25:07.240
<v Speaker 1>back down underneath after you get to the end. There's

0:25:07.240 --> 0:25:09.200
<v Speaker 1>a limited amount of information you can write on there.

0:25:10.080 --> 0:25:13.000
<v Speaker 1>But let's say that instead of writing it directly left

0:25:13.040 --> 0:25:17.600
<v Speaker 1>to right, you tilt the paper. Okay, so you're writing

0:25:17.600 --> 0:25:21.000
<v Speaker 1>at a diagonal from the let's say the the the

0:25:21.640 --> 0:25:23.760
<v Speaker 1>top the bottom edge to the top edge, you know,

0:25:24.000 --> 0:25:26.879
<v Speaker 1>and at a at a slant, right, all right, And

0:25:26.920 --> 0:25:29.840
<v Speaker 1>then you write one little bit of information, and then

0:25:29.880 --> 0:25:33.159
<v Speaker 1>you go take a little space and you write again

0:25:33.160 --> 0:25:35.639
<v Speaker 1>in a diagonal from the from the bottom edge to

0:25:35.640 --> 0:25:38.000
<v Speaker 1>the top edge. Uh. And then you go a little

0:25:38.000 --> 0:25:39.720
<v Speaker 1>bit further down you write from bottom edge to the

0:25:39.720 --> 0:25:41.600
<v Speaker 1>top edge. And again you're doing this at an at

0:25:41.600 --> 0:25:43.560
<v Speaker 1>an angle, so it's maybe like a forty five degree

0:25:43.640 --> 0:25:47.040
<v Speaker 1>angle across the paper. You can fit more information on

0:25:47.080 --> 0:25:50.200
<v Speaker 1>that same sheet of paper by recording it at that slant.

0:25:50.880 --> 0:25:54.120
<v Speaker 1>That's true. That's what is going on with VHS tapes there.

0:25:54.320 --> 0:25:57.600
<v Speaker 1>The information is recorded at a bias on the tape.

0:25:57.640 --> 0:26:02.600
<v Speaker 1>It's not a direct horizontal line of information. It's several

0:26:02.640 --> 0:26:07.600
<v Speaker 1>diagonal lines of information arranged in a horizontal row. And

0:26:08.040 --> 0:26:11.439
<v Speaker 1>the way the the VCR copes with this is that

0:26:11.920 --> 0:26:16.080
<v Speaker 1>the device that reads and writes to the U to

0:26:16.200 --> 0:26:20.880
<v Speaker 1>the tape itself is tilted. It's it's it's not uh,

0:26:21.200 --> 0:26:24.959
<v Speaker 1>it's not perfectly vertical. That the drumhead that does this,

0:26:25.280 --> 0:26:27.679
<v Speaker 1>it's actually at a tilted an angle so that it

0:26:27.760 --> 0:26:33.120
<v Speaker 1>can read and write this information at this angle. So

0:26:33.320 --> 0:26:35.480
<v Speaker 1>I guess we need to kind of dive into what

0:26:35.640 --> 0:26:39.120
<v Speaker 1>a VCR looks like if you were to open one up. Okay,

0:26:39.280 --> 0:26:42.439
<v Speaker 1>all right, um, well of course, uh, we were just

0:26:42.480 --> 0:26:45.359
<v Speaker 1>talking about the the information recorded on the tape and

0:26:45.400 --> 0:26:49.680
<v Speaker 1>the drum. Uh. When you pop a video cassette inside

0:26:50.040 --> 0:26:53.440
<v Speaker 1>a VCR, um, what it's going to do is it's

0:26:53.440 --> 0:26:56.520
<v Speaker 1>going to engage all the pins and things to get

0:26:56.520 --> 0:26:59.520
<v Speaker 1>the tape ready to play, and it actually pulls the

0:26:59.520 --> 0:27:02.640
<v Speaker 1>tape outside the case of the cassette. Yes, yes, the

0:27:02.640 --> 0:27:07.080
<v Speaker 1>the little protective door lifts up, the brakes are released,

0:27:07.840 --> 0:27:14.080
<v Speaker 1>and a couple of of guides which are inserted behind

0:27:14.119 --> 0:27:17.239
<v Speaker 1>the tape inside the cassette itself. When you push it down.

0:27:17.320 --> 0:27:20.040
<v Speaker 1>It's part of the VCR. These two guides pop up

0:27:20.600 --> 0:27:24.560
<v Speaker 1>inside the tape the cassette itself behind the tape, the

0:27:24.600 --> 0:27:28.800
<v Speaker 1>door releases up and the guides pull the tape like

0:27:28.840 --> 0:27:33.080
<v Speaker 1>a ribbon up to the innards of the VCR itself.

0:27:33.440 --> 0:27:35.199
<v Speaker 1>So if you've ever popped a tape in and you

0:27:35.280 --> 0:27:39.040
<v Speaker 1>hear that that mechanical were as it as a tape

0:27:39.040 --> 0:27:41.520
<v Speaker 1>gets ready to play, that's what it is. It's the

0:27:41.520 --> 0:27:46.000
<v Speaker 1>the the mechanics inside engaging that tape. And then there's

0:27:46.040 --> 0:27:48.760
<v Speaker 1>that that big drum that you said, uh was at

0:27:48.760 --> 0:27:51.760
<v Speaker 1>an angle, Yeah, the rotating head drum. This is this

0:27:51.840 --> 0:27:55.840
<v Speaker 1>is the all the visual information stuff is all based

0:27:55.880 --> 0:27:58.679
<v Speaker 1>off of this drum. The ones I've seen are silver

0:27:58.880 --> 0:28:02.000
<v Speaker 1>in color and it's it's charge you can It's probably

0:28:02.080 --> 0:28:06.280
<v Speaker 1>the easily most identifiable part of the inside of the VCR.

0:28:06.320 --> 0:28:10.040
<v Speaker 1>I would say this is the piece that that rotates

0:28:10.119 --> 0:28:14.480
<v Speaker 1>and will drive the helps drive the the progression of

0:28:14.520 --> 0:28:17.760
<v Speaker 1>the tape from one reel to the other reel. There

0:28:17.760 --> 0:28:20.280
<v Speaker 1>are other rollers that are in there too that will

0:28:20.359 --> 0:28:23.159
<v Speaker 1>also help move the tape along. It's not just the

0:28:23.240 --> 0:28:26.679
<v Speaker 1>rotating head drum that that propels the tape through uh.

0:28:26.760 --> 0:28:29.679
<v Speaker 1>There's a pinch roller that also does this through uh

0:28:29.880 --> 0:28:33.919
<v Speaker 1>through um uh. There's a a stationary roller called a

0:28:33.960 --> 0:28:37.520
<v Speaker 1>cap stand yes, and a pintroller that's on the opposite side.

0:28:37.560 --> 0:28:40.520
<v Speaker 1>Of the cap stand. The tape moves between the two

0:28:40.760 --> 0:28:44.760
<v Speaker 1>and the pressure that the tow create against each other

0:28:45.160 --> 0:28:48.320
<v Speaker 1>that's what allows it to pinch and pull that tape through.

0:28:48.920 --> 0:28:50.880
<v Speaker 1>So you've got the rotating head drum and the pintroller

0:28:51.200 --> 0:28:54.080
<v Speaker 1>that are helped propelling this tape through the system. You

0:28:54.120 --> 0:28:57.080
<v Speaker 1>also have a couple of different UM while they're called

0:28:57.120 --> 0:29:02.880
<v Speaker 1>heads inside the device that are that have specific purposes. Yeah. Now,

0:29:02.920 --> 0:29:05.360
<v Speaker 1>the rotating head drum is there to to read the

0:29:05.520 --> 0:29:08.800
<v Speaker 1>video information, but there is an audio head as well,

0:29:09.320 --> 0:29:11.720
<v Speaker 1>UM which is located over off to the side. It's

0:29:11.720 --> 0:29:15.200
<v Speaker 1>not right next to it UM generally, but what it

0:29:15.280 --> 0:29:18.360
<v Speaker 1>does is it reads the audio track on there. And uh,

0:29:18.400 --> 0:29:23.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, a VCR is designed to record UM video tapes.

0:29:23.480 --> 0:29:26.680
<v Speaker 1>And if you've ever had a video tape, let's say

0:29:26.680 --> 0:29:29.320
<v Speaker 1>you you recorded UM a show that you wanted to watch.

0:29:29.360 --> 0:29:31.200
<v Speaker 1>For a while before I had a d v R,

0:29:31.240 --> 0:29:33.480
<v Speaker 1>I used to record shows that I wasn't going to

0:29:33.520 --> 0:29:36.040
<v Speaker 1>be available to watch, and I would uh you know,

0:29:36.080 --> 0:29:37.760
<v Speaker 1>I had a couple of tapes that I used over

0:29:37.800 --> 0:29:40.280
<v Speaker 1>and over again. Well, there's an e race head inside

0:29:40.280 --> 0:29:42.760
<v Speaker 1>of v c R that will erase the information on

0:29:42.800 --> 0:29:45.080
<v Speaker 1>the tape. So that you can rerecord it with additional

0:29:45.120 --> 0:29:48.360
<v Speaker 1>tape without there being interference or otherwise you would just

0:29:48.400 --> 0:29:51.160
<v Speaker 1>have stuff overlaid on top of each other over and

0:29:51.200 --> 0:29:54.600
<v Speaker 1>over and over again, and it would be unviewable unless

0:29:54.640 --> 0:29:58.320
<v Speaker 1>you were you know, David Lynch or something. Now they're

0:29:58.680 --> 0:30:01.000
<v Speaker 1>just like with an audio cassette. There is a tab,

0:30:01.360 --> 0:30:04.320
<v Speaker 1>a little plastic tab on a v VC AR cassette

0:30:04.720 --> 0:30:07.840
<v Speaker 1>that tells the VCR whether it's allowed to engage the

0:30:07.960 --> 0:30:10.400
<v Speaker 1>race head or not. Um. If you went out to

0:30:10.400 --> 0:30:13.280
<v Speaker 1>buy a copy of your a movie that you liked

0:30:13.400 --> 0:30:17.560
<v Speaker 1>from the shelves, that tape, that tab would be gone. Um.

0:30:18.160 --> 0:30:20.320
<v Speaker 1>And you know if you tried to hit record, you

0:30:20.360 --> 0:30:23.680
<v Speaker 1>could not accidentally record over it. Now as most of

0:30:23.760 --> 0:30:26.120
<v Speaker 1>us with a long history of these things. Now, uh,

0:30:26.160 --> 0:30:27.960
<v Speaker 1>you could put a piece of tape over it and

0:30:28.000 --> 0:30:29.680
<v Speaker 1>it would allow you to do this, but you would

0:30:29.720 --> 0:30:33.080
<v Speaker 1>have to actually do something yourself to allow the tape

0:30:33.120 --> 0:30:35.560
<v Speaker 1>to be replaced. So that way you would Let's say,

0:30:35.640 --> 0:30:37.920
<v Speaker 1>let's say that you've got that that Sweating to the

0:30:37.920 --> 0:30:40.080
<v Speaker 1>Oldies eight and you're like, this is not nearly as

0:30:40.080 --> 0:30:42.400
<v Speaker 1>good as my Sweating to the Oldies seven. You know what,

0:30:42.440 --> 0:30:43.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to have this debate with you again.

0:30:44.000 --> 0:30:46.480
<v Speaker 1>All right, Well, anyway you might think I want to

0:30:46.480 --> 0:30:49.280
<v Speaker 1>be able to record over this, and then you would

0:30:49.360 --> 0:30:51.080
<v Speaker 1>use a piece of tape to do that because otherwise,

0:30:51.120 --> 0:30:52.960
<v Speaker 1>like you were saying, it would prevent you from doing

0:30:53.000 --> 0:30:56.600
<v Speaker 1>that excidentally, because there's nothing like the panic you experience

0:30:56.680 --> 0:30:58.520
<v Speaker 1>when you put a tape in and then you realize

0:30:58.560 --> 0:31:01.040
<v Speaker 1>that you accidentally just hit play and record and not

0:31:01.120 --> 0:31:04.000
<v Speaker 1>just play, and you want to and it's a tape

0:31:04.000 --> 0:31:07.320
<v Speaker 1>that you did not want to erase. There's a there's

0:31:07.360 --> 0:31:10.520
<v Speaker 1>a special level of panic. Yes, I'm not sure that

0:31:10.600 --> 0:31:12.320
<v Speaker 1>I have a word for it, but I have definitely

0:31:12.400 --> 0:31:16.680
<v Speaker 1>felt that more than once. Yes, yes, um. It also

0:31:16.760 --> 0:31:21.360
<v Speaker 1>has a VCR also has the ability to read additional

0:31:21.760 --> 0:31:25.960
<v Speaker 1>information about the tape. Uh, if you will, it's metadata,

0:31:26.280 --> 0:31:29.840
<v Speaker 1>it's on the tape itself. Um. That tells the VCR

0:31:30.160 --> 0:31:34.040
<v Speaker 1>some important things like um, uh when we were talking

0:31:34.040 --> 0:31:36.240
<v Speaker 1>about it just a few minutes ago. There there three

0:31:36.280 --> 0:31:39.920
<v Speaker 1>typically three modes that a VHS tape can be played

0:31:39.920 --> 0:31:46.200
<v Speaker 1>in SP, LP and EP. UM. Basically, uh, there we

0:31:46.240 --> 0:31:48.160
<v Speaker 1>won't get into I won't get into that just yet.

0:31:48.440 --> 0:31:52.040
<v Speaker 1>Let's let's but um, you can it tells this information

0:31:52.120 --> 0:31:56.440
<v Speaker 1>is along the tape UM that tells the VCR what

0:31:56.680 --> 0:31:59.760
<v Speaker 1>speed to play the video back at. This is a

0:31:59.840 --> 0:32:03.959
<v Speaker 1>low the control track, and it also UM you know,

0:32:04.000 --> 0:32:06.800
<v Speaker 1>the it also has a sensor the VCR does UM

0:32:06.800 --> 0:32:10.160
<v Speaker 1>that tells it has some clear leader tape UM that

0:32:10.240 --> 0:32:13.680
<v Speaker 1>they put before and after the the brown colored magnetic

0:32:13.720 --> 0:32:17.040
<v Speaker 1>tape that tells it basically, hey, there, you're either at

0:32:17.040 --> 0:32:19.280
<v Speaker 1>the beginning or at the end of the tape. Go

0:32:19.360 --> 0:32:22.360
<v Speaker 1>ahead and prepare to shut down. This is actually start

0:32:22.400 --> 0:32:25.520
<v Speaker 1>the movie. A very simple sensor because all it is

0:32:25.520 --> 0:32:28.320
<v Speaker 1>is trying to detect light. So if the regular tape

0:32:28.360 --> 0:32:30.840
<v Speaker 1>is passing through, it's dark enough so that the light

0:32:30.880 --> 0:32:33.240
<v Speaker 1>does not hit the sensor, and the sensor says, yep,

0:32:33.320 --> 0:32:35.280
<v Speaker 1>it's still good. But then once it gets to the

0:32:35.280 --> 0:32:37.000
<v Speaker 1>clear tape at the end, it says, WHOA got to

0:32:37.040 --> 0:32:39.880
<v Speaker 1>the end of the tape? It actually does not say anything.

0:32:39.960 --> 0:32:41.760
<v Speaker 1>By the way, is there light? No? Is there light? No?

0:32:41.960 --> 0:32:43.239
<v Speaker 1>Is there a light? No? Is there a light? Now?

0:32:43.280 --> 0:32:46.080
<v Speaker 1>I keep hearing voices coming out of my VCO and

0:32:46.200 --> 0:32:49.720
<v Speaker 1>that's a totally different problem and not covered under our podcast.

0:32:50.840 --> 0:32:53.959
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, for the for the most part, opening up

0:32:53.960 --> 0:32:59.040
<v Speaker 1>a VCR, uh, there's not a lot of a glamour

0:32:59.080 --> 0:33:02.800
<v Speaker 1>to it. There are rollers and some pins and pins

0:33:02.840 --> 0:33:05.080
<v Speaker 1>basically being there to hold the cassette in place and

0:33:05.080 --> 0:33:08.000
<v Speaker 1>guide the tape so that it doesn't just you know,

0:33:08.040 --> 0:33:11.040
<v Speaker 1>start snarling on things and then then you've got a

0:33:11.040 --> 0:33:13.960
<v Speaker 1>mess on your hands. The rotating head drum is probably

0:33:14.000 --> 0:33:16.400
<v Speaker 1>the most interesting feature. I mean, first of all, it's

0:33:16.440 --> 0:33:19.160
<v Speaker 1>it's one of the largest parts of the and if

0:33:19.200 --> 0:33:21.400
<v Speaker 1>you if you were to look at one and not yeah,

0:33:21.400 --> 0:33:22.560
<v Speaker 1>and if you were to look at one and not

0:33:22.680 --> 0:33:25.920
<v Speaker 1>know what it was, you might think, my VCR is broken.

0:33:25.960 --> 0:33:29.360
<v Speaker 1>This thing is it's tilted. It's supposed to be like

0:33:29.400 --> 0:33:32.320
<v Speaker 1>that because, like I said, it's it's because of the

0:33:32.480 --> 0:33:36.520
<v Speaker 1>direction of the information being stored on that tape. Uh,

0:33:37.360 --> 0:33:42.680
<v Speaker 1>the whole rotating head thing. Uh, it's called helical scanning

0:33:43.800 --> 0:33:47.000
<v Speaker 1>helical Yeah, because of the way that the information is

0:33:47.080 --> 0:33:52.880
<v Speaker 1>encoded along the the tape. It's almost like a helix. Now. Um,

0:33:52.960 --> 0:33:56.200
<v Speaker 1>we were talking a moment ago about the speeds. Uh.

0:33:56.560 --> 0:33:59.760
<v Speaker 1>The an SP mode that's the highest quality mode that

0:33:59.800 --> 0:34:03.200
<v Speaker 1>have VHS tape can can use, and it uses uh

0:34:03.320 --> 0:34:05.760
<v Speaker 1>it goes by at about one point three one linear

0:34:05.800 --> 0:34:09.799
<v Speaker 1>inches or thirty three point three five millimeters per second UM.

0:34:10.000 --> 0:34:12.800
<v Speaker 1>LP is the medium it allows you. Oh that that's

0:34:12.600 --> 0:34:16.080
<v Speaker 1>a that's not only about two hours. LP runs about

0:34:16.080 --> 0:34:18.360
<v Speaker 1>four hours UM. And in order to do that, it

0:34:18.719 --> 0:34:23.640
<v Speaker 1>runs the tape about uh point sixty six um inches

0:34:23.680 --> 0:34:27.319
<v Speaker 1>per second and uh are linear inches per second and

0:34:27.440 --> 0:34:30.280
<v Speaker 1>uh that's sixteen point seven millimeters per second, and EP

0:34:30.480 --> 0:34:34.640
<v Speaker 1>gives you about six hours on an average cassette UM

0:34:34.719 --> 0:34:38.240
<v Speaker 1>when it's running up at about point four four linear

0:34:38.280 --> 0:34:42.560
<v Speaker 1>inches per second or eleven point one two millimeters per second.

0:34:42.680 --> 0:34:46.920
<v Speaker 1>The thing is, uh, you know, as you increase or

0:34:47.080 --> 0:34:50.600
<v Speaker 1>actually as you decrease the speed, you're getting poorer quality. Yeah,

0:34:50.640 --> 0:34:55.120
<v Speaker 1>which might sound strange too to uh to people who

0:34:55.120 --> 0:34:57.400
<v Speaker 1>are just listening to this and like, wait, what do

0:34:57.400 --> 0:34:59.600
<v Speaker 1>you mean? How how is it that going slower means

0:34:59.640 --> 0:35:04.400
<v Speaker 1>poor quality? And it's because you're using you're using a

0:35:04.560 --> 0:35:08.799
<v Speaker 1>less space to store all that information. Yes, that's the thing.

0:35:08.880 --> 0:35:10.560
<v Speaker 1>Is that deal. If you're if you're going faster, then

0:35:10.560 --> 0:35:14.640
<v Speaker 1>you're using up all that tape to store a smaller

0:35:14.640 --> 0:35:16.680
<v Speaker 1>amount of information then you would be if you're going slower.

0:35:16.719 --> 0:35:19.560
<v Speaker 1>It's it's almost counterintuitive when you first think about it,

0:35:19.560 --> 0:35:22.040
<v Speaker 1>but then when you actually sit there and say, oh wait,

0:35:22.080 --> 0:35:25.000
<v Speaker 1>if I have a piece of paper that's going past

0:35:25.080 --> 0:35:28.400
<v Speaker 1>me at a certain speed and I'm I'm I'm able

0:35:28.440 --> 0:35:32.640
<v Speaker 1>to write really really fast. Uh, you know, it's I'm

0:35:32.640 --> 0:35:34.879
<v Speaker 1>not gonna get as much Um, I'm not gonna get

0:35:34.880 --> 0:35:39.160
<v Speaker 1>as much quality craned in there. It's just weird. Man.

0:35:39.360 --> 0:35:40.840
<v Speaker 1>I sit there and try and think about it, and

0:35:40.880 --> 0:35:44.760
<v Speaker 1>then my brain breaks. Yeah. But no, Yeah, the slower

0:35:44.760 --> 0:35:47.560
<v Speaker 1>it goes the less the lower the quality. It's not

0:35:47.640 --> 0:35:51.120
<v Speaker 1>able to to store as much information and um uh

0:35:51.320 --> 0:35:53.759
<v Speaker 1>as you would if you were running it faster. True.

0:35:53.800 --> 0:35:56.160
<v Speaker 1>And and some VCRs to have a flying a race head,

0:35:56.160 --> 0:35:58.879
<v Speaker 1>which is not what happens when you get really fed

0:35:58.920 --> 0:36:01.160
<v Speaker 1>up because your VCRs open and you fling it across

0:36:01.200 --> 0:36:07.880
<v Speaker 1>the room. Nice. Um the race head that we were

0:36:07.880 --> 0:36:12.239
<v Speaker 1>talking about before, UH found in uh the less expensive

0:36:12.320 --> 0:36:15.960
<v Speaker 1>VCRs is basically just gonna erase the entire tape um.

0:36:15.960 --> 0:36:18.919
<v Speaker 1>But a flying erase head is is you can find

0:36:18.920 --> 0:36:21.560
<v Speaker 1>it on the rotating drum itself, and it actually can

0:36:22.080 --> 0:36:26.640
<v Speaker 1>take individual bands and erase them. And uh that allows

0:36:26.680 --> 0:36:30.279
<v Speaker 1>you to be more precise when you erase material from

0:36:30.480 --> 0:36:35.399
<v Speaker 1>the VCR tape um. Also, if you're going to use

0:36:35.680 --> 0:36:39.120
<v Speaker 1>the two faster speeds. Uh, you're going to need a

0:36:39.200 --> 0:36:44.120
<v Speaker 1>forehead VCR. UM. Again, this is not some sort of mutant. Uh.

0:36:44.200 --> 0:36:48.120
<v Speaker 1>The sp tape only needs two heads, but a forehead

0:36:48.200 --> 0:36:51.759
<v Speaker 1>VCR can run the other speeds. Basically, the other heads uh,

0:36:51.880 --> 0:36:54.279
<v Speaker 1>play heads need to be there so that they can

0:36:54.400 --> 0:36:57.800
<v Speaker 1>run the other speeds. Um. So it's just one of

0:36:57.800 --> 0:37:01.600
<v Speaker 1>those technological things that needs to take place in order

0:37:01.640 --> 0:37:04.440
<v Speaker 1>to do that. But if you've ever wondered what that

0:37:04.520 --> 0:37:06.799
<v Speaker 1>meant when you saw it on on the cards, because

0:37:06.840 --> 0:37:08.759
<v Speaker 1>because you aren't going to see it now at your

0:37:08.760 --> 0:37:11.880
<v Speaker 1>local department store, I can tell you, um, you know

0:37:11.920 --> 0:37:13.719
<v Speaker 1>that that was That was one of the marks of

0:37:13.760 --> 0:37:18.360
<v Speaker 1>a more sophisticated VCR because you had more flexibility to

0:37:18.400 --> 0:37:22.240
<v Speaker 1>record other other speeds with that. And there are multiple

0:37:23.280 --> 0:37:28.680
<v Speaker 1>standards for encoding information onto cassettes. And anyone who has

0:37:28.760 --> 0:37:33.600
<v Speaker 1>tried to bring back a tape from another country into

0:37:33.640 --> 0:37:36.000
<v Speaker 1>their home country and then realize that doesn't play on

0:37:36.040 --> 0:37:40.480
<v Speaker 1>their machine has experienced this joy. Because the VHS tapes

0:37:40.719 --> 0:37:43.880
<v Speaker 1>from from various countries tend to be the same size.

0:37:43.920 --> 0:37:46.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean physically, there doesn't appear to be anything different

0:37:46.640 --> 0:37:49.520
<v Speaker 1>about them. It's convenient, right, they don't have to make

0:37:49.840 --> 0:37:53.080
<v Speaker 1>a new size cassette, right, But the the saves money.

0:37:53.120 --> 0:37:58.840
<v Speaker 1>The encoding process is different, and the playback process is different.

0:37:58.960 --> 0:38:02.279
<v Speaker 1>The speeds are different and uh, and they're not compatible.

0:38:02.840 --> 0:38:05.239
<v Speaker 1>So we could lead to a flying race head. So

0:38:05.280 --> 0:38:08.640
<v Speaker 1>our folks overhead, our friends in in in the UK

0:38:09.040 --> 0:38:13.919
<v Speaker 1>they used the the Powell standard PL which was also

0:38:14.080 --> 0:38:17.239
<v Speaker 1>very popular throughout Europe and other countries as well, and

0:38:17.239 --> 0:38:19.280
<v Speaker 1>then the United States and then a few other countries

0:38:19.280 --> 0:38:23.760
<v Speaker 1>and cluing Japan in TSC was the standard. And these again,

0:38:23.800 --> 0:38:26.960
<v Speaker 1>we're not compatible. So if you went over, like if

0:38:27.000 --> 0:38:30.239
<v Speaker 1>I hopped on the plane and flew over to Old

0:38:30.280 --> 0:38:32.919
<v Speaker 1>Blighty and decided that I wanted to pick up the

0:38:33.040 --> 0:38:37.239
<v Speaker 1>full series of Doctor Who from the classic era and

0:38:37.239 --> 0:38:39.160
<v Speaker 1>then come back and watch them, I would be very

0:38:39.239 --> 0:38:43.000
<v Speaker 1>much disappointed when I tried to play those in my

0:38:43.000 --> 0:38:47.040
<v Speaker 1>my United States VCR because it would not play back.

0:38:47.120 --> 0:38:49.400
<v Speaker 1>You would really need to buy a VCR there and

0:38:49.440 --> 0:38:53.560
<v Speaker 1>bring it back with you, and then possibly adapters as well. Yes,

0:38:53.640 --> 0:38:56.239
<v Speaker 1>and and and and then eventually someone would show up

0:38:56.239 --> 0:38:57.759
<v Speaker 1>at my door and asked me if I had my

0:38:57.840 --> 0:39:01.719
<v Speaker 1>television license, and I'd say, why do you talking about Yeah,

0:39:02.000 --> 0:39:04.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure customs would love that they're to bring back

0:39:04.400 --> 0:39:08.320
<v Speaker 1>a trunk full of electronics and plastic. Yeah. Well, you know,

0:39:08.719 --> 0:39:10.360
<v Speaker 1>they didn't say a thing when I brought back the

0:39:10.360 --> 0:39:14.279
<v Speaker 1>police call box, so UM, I thought the police call

0:39:14.320 --> 0:39:18.840
<v Speaker 1>box brought you back. Let's rune a bypass customs. I

0:39:18.920 --> 0:39:22.680
<v Speaker 1>just got on another list. That was a joke. But

0:39:22.880 --> 0:39:26.040
<v Speaker 1>all of those things were jokes. So yeah, the different standards,

0:39:26.080 --> 0:39:29.239
<v Speaker 1>but that's that's why they're not compatible. Um. Yeah, And

0:39:29.280 --> 0:39:32.520
<v Speaker 1>that control track also holds the information necessary like usually

0:39:32.520 --> 0:39:35.959
<v Speaker 1>the tracking is is fairly automatic. You know that that

0:39:36.360 --> 0:39:41.759
<v Speaker 1>tape over time warps. Yes, you can stretch. UM. The

0:39:41.840 --> 0:39:43.759
<v Speaker 1>more you know, you're putting we think about it, you're

0:39:43.760 --> 0:39:46.799
<v Speaker 1>putting stress on it. You. UM, let's say you uh

0:39:47.200 --> 0:39:49.480
<v Speaker 1>fast forward and rewind the tape over and over again,

0:39:49.520 --> 0:39:52.799
<v Speaker 1>and then there's that sudden stop. I remember, UM, I

0:39:52.880 --> 0:39:57.280
<v Speaker 1>got a the VCR I have now, which is thankfully

0:39:57.320 --> 0:40:00.840
<v Speaker 1>still working. UM has a mechanism in it to determine

0:40:01.239 --> 0:40:02.879
<v Speaker 1>when it's getting close to the end of the tape,

0:40:02.880 --> 0:40:05.920
<v Speaker 1>and it starts to slow down when you're rewinding or

0:40:05.920 --> 0:40:10.120
<v Speaker 1>fast forwarding the entire tape. UM to prevent it from

0:40:10.160 --> 0:40:14.280
<v Speaker 1>getting that sudden stop, which could potentially make the tape snap. Yes,

0:40:14.520 --> 0:40:16.520
<v Speaker 1>and uh, you know the tape is the tape is

0:40:16.600 --> 0:40:21.480
<v Speaker 1>very thin. It's made of essentially it's plastic, which is

0:40:21.520 --> 0:40:24.440
<v Speaker 1>known to stretch over time. Uh and uh yeah, I

0:40:24.480 --> 0:40:27.319
<v Speaker 1>mean you've spent the money on a movie or or

0:40:27.560 --> 0:40:30.400
<v Speaker 1>something a show that let's say you've recorded your wedding

0:40:31.239 --> 0:40:33.640
<v Speaker 1>or you noted it and you don't own it. Yes,

0:40:34.040 --> 0:40:39.000
<v Speaker 1>be kind please rewind. Um. So yeah, I mean you

0:40:39.080 --> 0:40:41.560
<v Speaker 1>want to take care of the tape because otherwise, uh,

0:40:41.560 --> 0:40:43.680
<v Speaker 1>it could get out of whack. That's um if you

0:40:43.760 --> 0:40:46.040
<v Speaker 1>have to mess with the tracking control. You know about

0:40:46.080 --> 0:40:49.560
<v Speaker 1>this because the tracking basically controls how the tape is

0:40:49.600 --> 0:40:53.040
<v Speaker 1>reading it. When you start to see uh static little

0:40:53.080 --> 0:40:55.680
<v Speaker 1>lines in the in the video playback, you realize that

0:40:55.719 --> 0:40:58.120
<v Speaker 1>the tape has started to warp or stretch. It's not

0:40:58.200 --> 0:41:02.680
<v Speaker 1>quite aligned properly, so the the drumheads having trouble reading

0:41:02.719 --> 0:41:06.040
<v Speaker 1>the information. So with the tracking. Some of some of

0:41:06.080 --> 0:41:09.239
<v Speaker 1>the VCRs, especially the later ones, have automatic tracking, where

0:41:09.239 --> 0:41:11.440
<v Speaker 1>it just a text that that's the things are not

0:41:11.560 --> 0:41:13.759
<v Speaker 1>quite right and it will start making adjustments. Others have

0:41:13.840 --> 0:41:18.080
<v Speaker 1>manual tracking. Others have manual tracking where you have to

0:41:18.160 --> 0:41:20.440
<v Speaker 1>change a little dial or whatever and try and get

0:41:20.480 --> 0:41:22.920
<v Speaker 1>it as closely aligned as possible so that you have

0:41:22.960 --> 0:41:25.600
<v Speaker 1>the best possible picture. I remember doing that a lot

0:41:25.680 --> 0:41:28.920
<v Speaker 1>with stuff that we had taped off television back when

0:41:28.960 --> 0:41:31.000
<v Speaker 1>I was a kid. Yeah. Yeah, Well, especially if you

0:41:31.080 --> 0:41:33.879
<v Speaker 1>use it over and over again, the more the more

0:41:33.920 --> 0:41:36.799
<v Speaker 1>likely you uh, the more you use it, the more

0:41:36.840 --> 0:41:39.000
<v Speaker 1>likely it is to you start to stretch and and

0:41:39.120 --> 0:41:41.239
<v Speaker 1>uh and warp. So well, let's talk a little bit

0:41:41.239 --> 0:41:46.839
<v Speaker 1>about what has happened to the VCR and VHS. DVDs. Yeah,

0:41:47.000 --> 0:41:50.120
<v Speaker 1>that was a big one. Okay, Yeah, so DVDs when

0:41:50.120 --> 0:41:54.719
<v Speaker 1>they premiered, well, first, it wasn't a huge blow to

0:41:55.040 --> 0:41:57.600
<v Speaker 1>VHS at all. Well, for the same reasons we were

0:41:57.600 --> 0:41:59.800
<v Speaker 1>talking about earlier in the podcast. They were the machines

0:41:59.800 --> 0:42:03.440
<v Speaker 1>were expensive, DVDs were expensive, and there weren't nearly as

0:42:03.480 --> 0:42:06.560
<v Speaker 1>many I mean, you know, you could find the odds

0:42:06.600 --> 0:42:10.040
<v Speaker 1>of finding a popular movie in those days on VHS

0:42:10.239 --> 0:42:14.440
<v Speaker 1>pretty high, but finding that same film on DVD could

0:42:14.440 --> 0:42:17.480
<v Speaker 1>be really a challenge because there just wasn't as much

0:42:17.480 --> 0:42:21.239
<v Speaker 1>content available and that form factor at that point, so

0:42:21.480 --> 0:42:25.680
<v Speaker 1>stop DVD players from selling very quickly. Now they had

0:42:25.719 --> 0:42:29.120
<v Speaker 1>a pretty relatively fast ramp up. I mean it. I

0:42:29.160 --> 0:42:31.319
<v Speaker 1>do remember that it was a couple of years before

0:42:31.360 --> 0:42:34.359
<v Speaker 1>I got a DVD player because they were they were,

0:42:34.560 --> 0:42:38.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, luxury items for a long time. But you

0:42:38.520 --> 0:42:40.640
<v Speaker 1>did start to notice things like if you went to

0:42:40.920 --> 0:42:43.360
<v Speaker 1>one of those rental stores like Blockbuster, you started noticing

0:42:43.400 --> 0:42:47.720
<v Speaker 1>that the VHS section was getting smaller and the DVD

0:42:47.800 --> 0:42:50.719
<v Speaker 1>section was getting larger. Same thing in retail stores. You

0:42:50.719 --> 0:42:52.560
<v Speaker 1>would go to a retail store that would sell movies,

0:42:52.600 --> 0:42:55.800
<v Speaker 1>and you notice that the vhs would get smaller and smaller.

0:42:56.000 --> 0:42:59.200
<v Speaker 1>But DVDs started to really take over. Uh. Well, I

0:42:59.200 --> 0:43:01.520
<v Speaker 1>mean DVDs have some advantages. You know, there is no

0:43:01.560 --> 0:43:04.640
<v Speaker 1>warping or stretching. Well, I mean there's there's the possibility

0:43:04.680 --> 0:43:08.480
<v Speaker 1>that you could scratch them. Um, but even even depending

0:43:08.520 --> 0:43:11.880
<v Speaker 1>on how they scratch, they may not they may not

0:43:12.960 --> 0:43:17.080
<v Speaker 1>be damaged enough to affect the playback significantly. Plus you

0:43:17.120 --> 0:43:20.080
<v Speaker 1>have a lot more control of over where you can

0:43:20.520 --> 0:43:25.320
<v Speaker 1>start and end. The resolution was far better than vhs.

0:43:25.719 --> 0:43:28.640
<v Speaker 1>You can you can watch them in computers and even

0:43:28.680 --> 0:43:33.480
<v Speaker 1>include extras that allow you to interact with them. Uh

0:43:33.520 --> 0:43:37.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, games and other things tracks, yeah, and and

0:43:37.600 --> 0:43:39.600
<v Speaker 1>things like that that you couldn't do with a with

0:43:39.680 --> 0:43:43.080
<v Speaker 1>a videotape. Yeah, if I ever wanted to, uh to

0:43:43.200 --> 0:43:47.400
<v Speaker 1>watch a movie like let's say Indiana Jones and Raises

0:43:47.400 --> 0:43:49.279
<v Speaker 1>the Lost Ark. I never wanted to watch Rails Lost

0:43:49.360 --> 0:43:53.440
<v Speaker 1>Ark and and have a commentary track while I was

0:43:53.480 --> 0:43:57.279
<v Speaker 1>watching it on VHS. I had to kidnap Steven Spielberg

0:43:57.960 --> 0:44:01.640
<v Speaker 1>and and tie him up and have him sit next

0:44:01.680 --> 0:44:05.000
<v Speaker 1>to me as I watched it. And that only works once, folks.

0:44:05.320 --> 0:44:07.640
<v Speaker 1>Thanks to the restraining order, he won't be doing that again. Yeah.

0:44:07.640 --> 0:44:11.080
<v Speaker 1>They they recognize you even if you dramatically change your look.

0:44:11.080 --> 0:44:13.960
<v Speaker 1>It's amazing. Steven Spielberg has this ability if he does

0:44:14.000 --> 0:44:20.520
<v Speaker 1>not forget a face. Yeah. So, Uh, DVDs really became

0:44:20.880 --> 0:44:25.120
<v Speaker 1>popular quickly enough that it started to put a It

0:44:25.200 --> 0:44:28.120
<v Speaker 1>started to clue the movie studios in. And of course

0:44:28.160 --> 0:44:30.400
<v Speaker 1>at this point they were a little less likely to

0:44:30.400 --> 0:44:33.399
<v Speaker 1>be upset about the DVDs, which were Uh. You know,

0:44:33.640 --> 0:44:36.920
<v Speaker 1>when you buy a DVD from the store, you can't

0:44:37.200 --> 0:44:40.719
<v Speaker 1>record over it like you could with a VHS tape. Uh.

0:44:40.760 --> 0:44:42.359
<v Speaker 1>You know, all it takes a little piece of tape,

0:44:42.400 --> 0:44:46.000
<v Speaker 1>ladies and gentlemen. For a long time. Uh, the the

0:44:46.040 --> 0:44:49.600
<v Speaker 1>ability to record to DVD at all was even greater

0:44:49.680 --> 0:44:52.480
<v Speaker 1>luxury than a DVD player. Yeah, so they you know,

0:44:52.520 --> 0:44:55.359
<v Speaker 1>the movie studios, I don't remember them making as big

0:44:55.400 --> 0:44:57.239
<v Speaker 1>a fuss about DVD as they did for some of

0:44:57.280 --> 0:45:00.560
<v Speaker 1>the other stuff, and so, uh they people adopted it

0:45:00.560 --> 0:45:04.439
<v Speaker 1>fairly quickly. It still took a while, though, before VHS

0:45:04.719 --> 0:45:09.240
<v Speaker 1>started really tapering off in popularity. In two thousand three,

0:45:09.400 --> 0:45:13.360
<v Speaker 1>that was when DVD rentals began to finally outpace VHS

0:45:13.440 --> 0:45:17.480
<v Speaker 1>rentals and rental agencies. And in two thousand five, DVD

0:45:17.640 --> 0:45:21.480
<v Speaker 1>sales hit twenty two billion with a B dollars and

0:45:21.600 --> 0:45:24.279
<v Speaker 1>VHS was down to one point five billion with a

0:45:24.320 --> 0:45:26.080
<v Speaker 1>B dollars. So the writing was on the wall at

0:45:26.080 --> 0:45:30.160
<v Speaker 1>that point. But the real blow came in two thousand eight. Yes,

0:45:30.520 --> 0:45:32.880
<v Speaker 1>that's when j v C, which if you recall, was

0:45:32.920 --> 0:45:38.839
<v Speaker 1>the company that introduced the VHS format, stopped producing standalone

0:45:38.920 --> 0:45:42.240
<v Speaker 1>VCRs and that was that prompted a lot of people

0:45:42.640 --> 0:45:45.000
<v Speaker 1>to say that two thousand and eight marked the death

0:45:45.360 --> 0:45:49.359
<v Speaker 1>of the VCR. Yeah, although I think it's as dead

0:45:49.400 --> 0:45:53.799
<v Speaker 1>as any of these other technologies are, like, uh, the

0:45:54.120 --> 0:45:58.960
<v Speaker 1>vinal turntable, UM, the laser disc and some of these

0:45:58.960 --> 0:46:01.480
<v Speaker 1>other the other for us there. And the thing is,

0:46:01.520 --> 0:46:03.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean you've you told me too before the podcast

0:46:03.920 --> 0:46:06.480
<v Speaker 1>that you have some movies that you have on on

0:46:07.000 --> 0:46:10.520
<v Speaker 1>VHS cassettes that you can't find on dv Blood Salvage,

0:46:11.440 --> 0:46:14.680
<v Speaker 1>it's been dead too long, so it's not available on DVD.

0:46:15.000 --> 0:46:17.960
<v Speaker 1>So there you go. Um, there are reasons that that

0:46:18.080 --> 0:46:20.839
<v Speaker 1>you that people are still going to want to make

0:46:20.880 --> 0:46:24.080
<v Speaker 1>them available. Of course, libraries and other people who have

0:46:24.760 --> 0:46:28.520
<v Speaker 1>uh large who spent money on these have to find

0:46:28.520 --> 0:46:31.800
<v Speaker 1>a way to either convert them or maintain the equipment

0:46:31.840 --> 0:46:34.960
<v Speaker 1>long enough to keep it out there. So uh, I

0:46:35.000 --> 0:46:37.400
<v Speaker 1>think it's um, it's sort of turned into a zombie

0:46:37.440 --> 0:46:39.600
<v Speaker 1>technology at this point. But I just hadn't realized how

0:46:39.640 --> 0:46:41.759
<v Speaker 1>far I had gone until a few days ago when

0:46:41.800 --> 0:46:44.399
<v Speaker 1>I went to find one. Yeah, I was thinking I'll

0:46:44.440 --> 0:46:47.080
<v Speaker 1>probably be able to get one for twenty dollars or so.

0:46:47.800 --> 0:46:51.520
<v Speaker 1>Seen it recorded that the last major supplier of VHS

0:46:51.640 --> 0:46:54.759
<v Speaker 1>tapes in the United States shifted its final truckload in

0:46:54.800 --> 0:46:58.640
<v Speaker 1>December eight. Wow. Well see that it shows you how

0:46:58.640 --> 0:47:00.239
<v Speaker 1>long it's been since I've tried to find a movie

0:47:00.280 --> 0:47:02.760
<v Speaker 1>from h Yeah and well, and a couple of films

0:47:02.760 --> 0:47:04.960
<v Speaker 1>have come out on VHS, but it's been more like

0:47:05.280 --> 0:47:09.920
<v Speaker 1>a gimmick, like especially films that are uh kind of

0:47:09.920 --> 0:47:14.200
<v Speaker 1>an homage to to certain genres that were really that

0:47:14.280 --> 0:47:17.040
<v Speaker 1>came to prominence in the nineteen eighties, which you know,

0:47:17.120 --> 0:47:19.520
<v Speaker 1>that's sort of the same thing we saw with bands

0:47:19.680 --> 0:47:22.080
<v Speaker 1>and vinyl for a while, because the Vinyl was kind

0:47:22.080 --> 0:47:24.120
<v Speaker 1>of a gimmick like saying, hey, look, we're this cool

0:47:24.160 --> 0:47:28.399
<v Speaker 1>independent group and we're supporting this what some would call

0:47:28.440 --> 0:47:34.799
<v Speaker 1>obsolete form factor. But you know, although Vinyl managed to

0:47:34.800 --> 0:47:39.319
<v Speaker 1>to have a second gasp, I'm not sure that VHS will.

0:47:39.520 --> 0:47:43.600
<v Speaker 1>And the big reason behind that DVDs definitely were a

0:47:43.640 --> 0:47:47.640
<v Speaker 1>blow to VCRs. Digital video recorders was like that was

0:47:47.719 --> 0:47:51.200
<v Speaker 1>the death blow. The DVR was a death blow to

0:47:51.239 --> 0:47:56.040
<v Speaker 1>the VCR because now you had DVDs where you could

0:47:56.080 --> 0:48:01.160
<v Speaker 1>get a better quality picture and experience from the content providers,

0:48:01.320 --> 0:48:03.680
<v Speaker 1>and you have DVRs, which that's what took care of

0:48:03.719 --> 0:48:07.520
<v Speaker 1>the time shifting element of VCRs. Yes, definitely, because I

0:48:07.800 --> 0:48:12.160
<v Speaker 1>actually had um VHS or VCR Plus, which was this

0:48:12.239 --> 0:48:16.000
<v Speaker 1>technology that people came out with that would allow you

0:48:16.040 --> 0:48:18.480
<v Speaker 1>too if you knew a code and your VCR was

0:48:18.520 --> 0:48:20.520
<v Speaker 1>equipped with it, you could enter that code in your

0:48:20.600 --> 0:48:22.680
<v Speaker 1>VCR and it would pick the right channel on the

0:48:22.760 --> 0:48:26.000
<v Speaker 1>right date. Of course, some my VCR didn't have the

0:48:26.000 --> 0:48:29.480
<v Speaker 1>ability to change channels like my DVR does because it's

0:48:29.480 --> 0:48:31.719
<v Speaker 1>built in so it can change that. It knows what

0:48:31.800 --> 0:48:33.560
<v Speaker 1>channel to change it too, it knows when, and I

0:48:33.600 --> 0:48:37.120
<v Speaker 1>can subscribe to an entire series, so I can say

0:48:37.520 --> 0:48:40.640
<v Speaker 1>I want you to record this show which comes on

0:48:40.719 --> 0:48:44.160
<v Speaker 1>Tuesdays at eight, and the network makes a decision, no,

0:48:44.360 --> 0:48:47.200
<v Speaker 1>we're going to move that to Thursdays at nine thirty. Well,

0:48:47.360 --> 0:48:51.160
<v Speaker 1>the DVR can handle that. And again there's meta data

0:48:51.200 --> 0:48:54.080
<v Speaker 1>there that the DVR can follow. I can say I

0:48:54.120 --> 0:48:56.640
<v Speaker 1>want to record new episodes only don't record reruns, and

0:48:56.680 --> 0:48:59.319
<v Speaker 1>it goes, Okay, this one's a rerun, I'm skipping it. Yeah,

0:48:59.320 --> 0:49:01.200
<v Speaker 1>whereas your v c R would just be like, Nope,

0:49:01.239 --> 0:49:02.839
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to record at this channel at this time

0:49:02.880 --> 0:49:04.879
<v Speaker 1>because that's what he told me to Yeah. And it's

0:49:04.920 --> 0:49:08.200
<v Speaker 1>it's so much more. The DVR is so much more flexible,

0:49:08.480 --> 0:49:12.719
<v Speaker 1>much more versatile that then a VHS recorder is. And

0:49:12.800 --> 0:49:15.719
<v Speaker 1>it's just once between the two of those. Once the

0:49:15.760 --> 0:49:19.279
<v Speaker 1>move to digital happened, VHS really had no hope. And

0:49:19.320 --> 0:49:22.279
<v Speaker 1>then on top of that if that weren't enough, even

0:49:22.320 --> 0:49:24.920
<v Speaker 1>the DVR at this point I think is starting to

0:49:25.040 --> 0:49:27.680
<v Speaker 1>have a bit of a slowdown. You know, people aren't

0:49:27.760 --> 0:49:30.600
<v Speaker 1>buying DVRs as as frequently as they were before, and

0:49:30.719 --> 0:49:32.799
<v Speaker 1>part of that is because the time shifting has gone

0:49:32.800 --> 0:49:37.640
<v Speaker 1>even more dramatic with services like Netflix Incidant or Hulu

0:49:37.680 --> 0:49:41.400
<v Speaker 1>Plus or Hulu Hulu in general, or the Amazon Video

0:49:41.840 --> 0:49:45.240
<v Speaker 1>where people now have access to huge libraries of content

0:49:45.920 --> 0:49:49.960
<v Speaker 1>that don't require a DVR necessarily. A lot of them

0:49:50.000 --> 0:49:53.040
<v Speaker 1>have access to it through stuff they already own, video

0:49:53.040 --> 0:49:57.200
<v Speaker 1>game consoles or just on on a computer. So we've

0:49:57.200 --> 0:50:00.840
<v Speaker 1>even seen the DVR have a meteoric eyes and then

0:50:01.120 --> 0:50:03.240
<v Speaker 1>I think I wouldn't say that it's gone or anything,

0:50:03.280 --> 0:50:06.040
<v Speaker 1>but stuff, I think it's in decline. I think companies

0:50:06.040 --> 0:50:08.960
<v Speaker 1>like TiVo are finding it harder to make products that

0:50:09.080 --> 0:50:11.920
<v Speaker 1>consumers are finding really compelling that they feel they have

0:50:12.000 --> 0:50:17.240
<v Speaker 1>to go out and get because the the internet delivery

0:50:17.280 --> 0:50:22.160
<v Speaker 1>method has taken off pretty dramatically over the last two years. Yeah,

0:50:22.239 --> 0:50:24.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't think they'll they'll die out like some of

0:50:24.880 --> 0:50:27.839
<v Speaker 1>the other technologies simply because of well, actually live TV

0:50:28.760 --> 0:50:31.839
<v Speaker 1>um things like awards shows and sports and things like

0:50:31.880 --> 0:50:35.759
<v Speaker 1>that that, um, you you won't be able to get

0:50:36.280 --> 0:50:38.600
<v Speaker 1>later on from one of the streaming shows you want

0:50:38.600 --> 0:50:43.160
<v Speaker 1>to watch. Uh, um, let's say the the Oscars. She

0:50:43.200 --> 0:50:46.319
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't be able to You're not gonna say, watch the

0:50:46.360 --> 0:50:49.440
<v Speaker 1>Oscars from last week on Netflix. Yeah, those of us

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<v Speaker 1>on the East Coast are sick of the Oscars coming

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<v Speaker 1>on so late at night for us. Yeah, it's the

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<v Speaker 1>afternoon for everyone in California. But for us, we're like,

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<v Speaker 1>can you move it along? I have work tomorrow. It

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<v Speaker 1>But you're right, like the standalone stuff, it's it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>not a thing anymore. It's something you sort of expect, um.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, it's it's kind of amazing that VCRs really

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<v Speaker 1>have moved off the map. I guess the store shelf

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<v Speaker 1>such a it had such a huge impact on consumer behavior,

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<v Speaker 1>on the industry itself. I mean, it was one of

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<v Speaker 1>those pieces of technology that really was a game changer,

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<v Speaker 1>and that multiple I don't really care, Yeah exactly, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>And so you know, to see it kind of disappear now,

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<v Speaker 1>it's again a reminder that just because something is popular

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't mean it always will be that way. That's right.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's a lesson that we've had to learn multiple times,

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<v Speaker 1>and yet people still forget about it, and they'll still say,

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<v Speaker 1>oh no, I can't see it. I cannot imagine a

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<v Speaker 1>time when this will not be important. Well, there may

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<v Speaker 1>come a time, is all I'm saying. And with that

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<v Speaker 1>in mind, the only thing I think you can count

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<v Speaker 1>on is that tech stuff will always be amazing popular

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<v Speaker 1>and you should always listen to it, depending on what

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<v Speaker 1>format it's and uh, no matter we transcend, we transcend formats,

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<v Speaker 1>we transcend platforms, we are freaking amazing. All right, So

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<v Speaker 1>just you can in fact that I think that's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be our new slogan, tech stuff. We are freaking amazing. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, you know you heard it from me first.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, guys, that is our story about the VCR

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<v Speaker 1>and UH and how it works and it's impact on

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