1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from 2 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:18,079 Speaker 1: Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spoffer, joined as always 3 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:20,959 Speaker 1: by my trusted colleague West Hodkowitz. Were coming to you 4 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 1: from our new and improved studio here at lambeau Field 5 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 1: and West Packers Buccaneers Sunday PM Central Time kickoff. It 6 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:34,520 Speaker 1: will be the national doubleheader game on Fox. The entire 7 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 1: country will get to watch this one, and it certainly 8 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:39,240 Speaker 1: wanted to look forward to. Not just because of Aaron 9 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 1: Rodgers against Tom Brady, though that's certainly a big enough reason. 10 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 1: About the Packers four and oh, the Buccaneers are three 11 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: and two looking to avoid a two game losing streak. 12 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 1: This is one I think, even though it's so early 13 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:52,480 Speaker 1: in the season, you just get the sense it could 14 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 1: have some playoff implications down the road. Yeah, you really 15 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: do believe that. And when you look at the way 16 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: that these teams match up, like I said you earlier 17 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 1: this week, I think the one area where the Bucks 18 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 1: really need to clean things up is the penalties, the discipline. 19 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:10,039 Speaker 1: But in terms of just you know, talent scheme defense, 20 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 1: they're as good as anybody in the NFC right now, 21 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 1: and and being able to obviously build this offense now 22 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 1: around Tom Brady has been the big key for them, 23 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:21,679 Speaker 1: but they have a running back, they have playmakers at 24 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 1: tight end and receiver. Their defensive front is one of 25 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 1: the best in the league right now. Not only can 26 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 1: get pressure, can stop the run. And I think also 27 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 1: we'll have to see, you know how this injury report 28 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:36,119 Speaker 1: shuffles out with Mike Evans and Leonard for NET. But overall, 29 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 1: I mean you look at the way that they're able 30 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 1: to win every single down. Uh, that presents a lot 31 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: of challenges and that was one of the big topics 32 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 1: that Matt Lafleur really discussed this week and his interactions 33 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 1: with the media. Yeah, well, before we get to our 34 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: keys to victory on both sides of the ball, a 35 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: little bit of sponsored business here. Serious x M NFL 36 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 1: Radio channel is the only radio outlet dedicated to the 37 00:01:56,720 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 1: National Football League seven days a week and fifty five 38 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 1: Sorry about that or no, can't short change them on 39 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 1: that one. Well you mentioned it West. The penalties From 40 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 1: a statistical perspective, Tampa Bay Buccaneers have been flagged for 41 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 1: forty two penalties in five games. That's an average about 42 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:19,799 Speaker 1: eight per game. The Packers, on the other hand, only 43 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 1: nineteen penalties in four games, only five per game. I 44 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 1: think the discipline, you know, is going to be a 45 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 1: big factor in this game. You don't if you're the Packers, 46 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 1: you don't want to get into the kind of game 47 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 1: that the Bears got into with the Buccaneers last Thursday, 48 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 1: which is where the flags were kind of flying on 49 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 1: both sides and uh and ultimately ended up hurting the 50 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: Buccaneers more than Chicago. I don't think the Packers want 51 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 1: to get into that kind of game. If the Buccaneers 52 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 1: are gonna put themselves in tough down and distance or whatever, 53 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 1: don't help them out, don't do them any favors in 54 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 1: any other direction. Yeah, and you know, it's one of 55 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 1: those things too that you look at this mic and 56 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: in the way Green Bay has won to this point 57 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:01,080 Speaker 1: of the season. Yeah, you've had amazing performances out of 58 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:04,359 Speaker 1: individual players. You've had big you know, stops defensively, big 59 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: plays defensively, and obviously Aaron Rodgers. But if you look 60 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 1: at it from a bigger level, where the areas that 61 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 1: they've kind of dominated their competition, time of possession with 62 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 1: what they've accomplished in that area, protecting the football and 63 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 1: being able to, you know, make sure that they're continuing 64 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:23,399 Speaker 1: their drives and not relinquishing field position. And the other 65 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 1: thing is discipline. It's penalties. I mean that game against 66 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 1: Detroit green Bay that was a pretty thoroughly one victory. 67 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 1: But where was the turning point in that game? It 68 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: was some of the extracurricular stuff that the Lions started doing. 69 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:38,119 Speaker 1: That green Bay was able to keep their heads about themselves, 70 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 1: and we'll be able to pull that out in the 71 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 1: second half. New Orleans. Now, there are a couple of 72 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 1: penalties there that I think the Saints probably would object to, 73 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 1: but they were flags nonetheless, and obviously going into the 74 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 1: Atlantic game too, so I think again, my biggest key 75 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: for this matchup is if the Packers play clean football, 76 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 1: if they don't put the ball on the ground, if 77 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 1: the defense isn't able to turn it over the Bucks defense, 78 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 1: and you keep the time of possession to feel position, 79 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 1: and also keeping yourselves in managuble down in distance. It's 80 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 1: a very not rudimentary way to win a football game, 81 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 1: but it's very meat potatoes. I think there's a solid 82 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: blueprint there for what green Bay needs to do well 83 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: on the offensive side of the ball. The Packers are 84 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 1: fifth in the NFL in rushing yards. The Tampa Bay 85 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 1: Buccaneers number one rush defense in the league. This is 86 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 1: going to be interesting because the Packers are fifth in 87 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 1: the NFL running the football, but the last two games 88 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 1: New Orleans and Atlanta, the Packers have not cracked a 89 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 1: hundred yards rushing in those games. That number five ranking 90 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 1: built more off of the first two games of the 91 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:39,480 Speaker 1: season than the last two the Buccaneers. This was the 92 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 1: number one rushing defense in the league in twenty nineteen. 93 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 1: If I'm not mistaken. They've simply carried that over that 94 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: defensive front. Yes, missing Vita Vea now that he's out 95 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 1: for the season with a broken leg, but that defensive 96 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 1: front is formidable. They've carried over what they've done from 97 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen here into and with as much as I 98 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:00,839 Speaker 1: think it could be a strugg for the Packers to 99 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:03,279 Speaker 1: run the ball as far as the key to victory, 100 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:06,159 Speaker 1: I kind of look at okay, if Davante Adams is 101 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 1: coming back and all signs are pointing to Adams getting 102 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:11,600 Speaker 1: back on the field on Sunday, I think the Packers 103 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers and Matt Lafleur. They need to get Davante 104 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 1: Adams into the flow of the game quickly. He's been 105 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 1: out for you know, two and a half games, plus 106 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 1: the bye week. It's been it's been a bit of 107 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: a break and you don't you don't want him to 108 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 1: to not feel comfortable out there as the game goes along. 109 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 1: You want him to get into it right away. Yeah, 110 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 1: and he's proven in the past two that he can 111 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 1: hit the ground running after missing some time and play 112 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 1: really well right off the bat. Full participant in practice 113 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 1: on Wednesday. All signs pointing up right now for him 114 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 1: coming back from that hamstring injury. But this does really 115 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 1: scream to me a Davante Adams type game because the 116 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: last two games, and really the last two and a half, 117 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:49,599 Speaker 1: if you call out the second half against you know, 118 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 1: the Lions, it came down to defenses wanting to take 119 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: away Aaron Jones. So what were the counters to that. 120 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: It was Alan Lazard stepping up, It was Robert Tony 121 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 1: and getting open. It was Jamal Williams coming a really 122 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 1: valuable threat as a receiver. Well, eventually you've got to 123 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 1: get back to your three time Pro Bowl receiver. He 124 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 1: seems like this is a tailor made matchup if the 125 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 1: Buccaneers really are trying to stop the run to win 126 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 1: Adams with winning his one on ones to get open downfield. 127 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:18,839 Speaker 1: I'll also mention this too, though all credit in the 128 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 1: world the Tampa Bay very stout run defense, I don't 129 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:24,039 Speaker 1: know if they've really seen a threat like what Green 130 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:26,720 Speaker 1: Bay presents though in this matchup as well. I would 131 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 1: agree with that. Certainly. A week ago Thursday night against Chicago, 132 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,279 Speaker 1: the Bears have almost no running game to speak O. Yeah, 133 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: and Austin Eichler the two weeks before that, I believe 134 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 1: gets injured. The matchup only has two carries and the 135 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 1: charges completely abort the run and you can go a 136 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:44,160 Speaker 1: different direction. So, uh, the first quarter of this game 137 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:46,279 Speaker 1: is just going to be thrilling to watch, just to 138 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 1: see what exactly the initial game plan is going to 139 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 1: be a Green Bay and how on the other side 140 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:53,280 Speaker 1: of the field, Todd Bowls and the Buccaneers are gonna 141 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 1: try to attack it. Yeah. Well, and certainly when you're 142 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 1: facing a defense as formidable as this one with Tampa Bay, 143 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 1: I don't know if you can count on, you know, 144 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 1: having five or six cracks in the red zone like 145 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 1: the Packers have have had regularly here throughout the year. 146 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 1: So I think there's a premium on finishing drives too. 147 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 1: You're only gonna get so many shots against this defense 148 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 1: in the red zone to try to to try to 149 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 1: punch the ball in the end zone, and the Packers 150 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 1: have to finish those drives. We talked about the short 151 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 1: yardage situations and whatnot the other day. Whatever it takes, 152 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: you can't be settling for field goals, especially when Tom 153 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 1: Brady's the quarterback on the other side. Yeah, and I 154 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 1: agree with that wholeheartedly. In the other aspect of it too, 155 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 1: There's gonna be six thousand, maybe more people there, and 156 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 1: there's probably a lot of rowdy Buccaneers fans that are 157 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 1: gonna be really excited for this matchup, So I think 158 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 1: there could be some Packer fans in there. We've heard 159 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 1: from a few and inside inbox who have tickets for 160 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 1: Sunday's games, so I think they are going to be 161 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: maybe some some Aaron Rodgers, Aaron Jones, Za, Darius Smith, 162 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 1: Jersey sprinkled throughout to Raymond James Stadium, and I'm sure 163 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 1: that welcome that too. But like Davante Adams, said, it 164 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 1: really doesn't even matter, just he is excited to potentially 165 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 1: have some people to play in front of again, and 166 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 1: and just seeing the way that they manage that game, 167 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 1: the momentum of it. I've only covered one game at 168 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 1: Raymond James Stadium. It was that game in two thousand 169 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 1: and fourteen where for a minute there it looked like 170 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 1: Josh McCown wasn't going to be able to like really 171 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 1: complete a forward pass and the Packers one handedly. The 172 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 1: only downside of that is that's when the dreaded calf 173 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 1: injury flared up for Rogers. So you know, it is 174 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: a winnable game. It's a winnable matchup, but the Packers 175 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 1: have to stay on top of themselves. It was my 176 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 1: big thing I wrote an insider inbox this week. You know, 177 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:33,319 Speaker 1: you got to four and oh, that's a great start 178 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 1: to the season. That puts you in pole position here 179 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: right now with Seattle in this NFC race for the 180 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 1: number one seed. But you have to continue that train. 181 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 1: You have to be able to push that momentum forward 182 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 1: because as we've seen too and if you let a 183 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:49,439 Speaker 1: good start go to waste, then you let the rest 184 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 1: of the group kind of catch up to you again. Yeah, well, 185 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 1: we'll shift gears to the defensive side of the ball 186 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 1: in a moment. But gear up for game day, folks. 187 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 1: Open up Packers checking account from Associated Bank and score 188 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 1: a fifty dollar Packers Pro Shop gift card. Learn more 189 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:07,199 Speaker 1: at Associated bank dot com. Backslash Packers. All right, when 190 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 1: I look at this game on the defensive side of 191 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 1: the ball for the Packers, the first thing that jumps 192 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 1: out to me as a key to victory is to 193 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: tackle Ronald Jones. Because if you're Ronald Jones and you're 194 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 1: looking at the film of the Packers against the New 195 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:23,439 Speaker 1: Orleans Saints and what Alvin Kamara was able to do 196 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 1: with breaking tackles, turning short gains into big ones, etcetera, etcetera, 197 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 1: Ronald Jones is like, all right, get me the ball. 198 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 1: Here we go, right. I mean that that's what he's thinking. 199 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:35,680 Speaker 1: So the Packers have got to have have got to 200 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 1: turn that on its head and say, Okay, this is 201 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 1: a guy. I mean, we've we've seen Ronald Jones likes 202 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 1: to do spin moves. He's he's quick, he's tough to 203 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 1: bring down. The Packers have to be sound in there 204 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 1: tackling and not let this guy turn two and three 205 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 1: yard carries into first down carries that move the change. Yeah, 206 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:54,439 Speaker 1: this is the one thing where it's like, if Green 207 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 1: Bay could have just played right away the next week 208 00:09:57,280 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: we talked about is a bye wee can effect momentum 209 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 1: A run defense is probably the one area that I 210 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 1: think really could have probably benefited from just keep going 211 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 1: because they were coming off their best performance of the 212 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 1: season against Atlanta and just a reminder the next week, 213 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:11,679 Speaker 1: Todd Gurley then went off for whatever it was, a 214 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 1: twenty rushing yards in the Falcons next game. I mean, 215 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: that was a good, solid performance. Tyler Lancaster played up 216 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 1: played exceptional. You had Kingsley. Keiki has been able to 217 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 1: to shed blockers and regardless of whether he's pass rushing 218 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 1: or defending the run, has made some strides like you've 219 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 1: even seen montrevious Adams get more comfortable here as he 220 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 1: started to play a little bit more consistently. Oh and 221 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 1: by the way, now you potentially get Kenny Clark back 222 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 1: in the fold. So for with the exception of what 223 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 1: fourteen fifteen plays, this defense has had to go without 224 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: their Pro Bowl nose tackle through the first you know, 225 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 1: month of the season. So if you're able to get 226 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 1: him back on the field, and as I've been saying 227 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 1: all along, if Mike Petton can be a little bit 228 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:53,199 Speaker 1: more uh not creative, but just unpredictable with how they're 229 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 1: exactly they want to use him and what scenarios he 230 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 1: needs to be on the field for that. This really 231 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 1: does boil down to me like a game where as 232 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 1: good as Ronald Jones is and he's great, and if 233 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: love Leonard fer Nette is out there, we'll have to see. 234 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 1: But the Packers coming off of that performance against Atlanta 235 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 1: and getting back Kenny Clark, it's all set up for 236 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 1: them to really, you know, kind of change the narrative 237 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 1: with that group here after having kind of a slow 238 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 1: start to the season. Yeah. And the other thing I 239 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 1: look at on the defensive side of the ball, and 240 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 1: I talked about it in our previous show, is that 241 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 1: in this one, I think you got to get a 242 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:26,959 Speaker 1: takeaway from Tom Brady in some way, shape or form. 243 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 1: The Packers defense only three takeaways in four games. We 244 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 1: talked about the Packers offense, no turnovers. You're taking care 245 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 1: of the taking care of the ball. On the offensive side, 246 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: you can get an interception or a strip sack type 247 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 1: of play on Tom Brady. I think that's the that's 248 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 1: the one type of play that could that could really 249 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:47,199 Speaker 1: either set the tone if you do it early in 250 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: the game, or shift the momentum if it happens later 251 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 1: in the game like this the Zarius Smith forced forced 252 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 1: fumble on Taysom Hill in New Orleans. I think one 253 00:11:57,280 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 1: takeaway here from the Packers defense could go a really 254 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:02,959 Speaker 1: long way on Sunday in this matchup. Yeah, and tracking 255 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 1: the rest of the week. I mean, as we show 256 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 1: as we talk right now, neither team has had their 257 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 1: padded practice, so we'll see exactly what this the forecast 258 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 1: is here for Mike Evans and what his availability is 259 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:13,680 Speaker 1: going to be. Certainly it's a different game if he's 260 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:15,959 Speaker 1: not on the field. O. J. Howard has had these 261 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 1: issues now too. But then you've got Rob Gronkowski who's 262 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:20,719 Speaker 1: been off to kind of a slow start getting back 263 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 1: into his NFL career. You don't want to make this 264 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 1: the week that Gronk goes off against you. So there's 265 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:28,599 Speaker 1: so many different reasons and things that I think factorated this, 266 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 1: But for me, it's just comes down to what that 267 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:34,680 Speaker 1: quarterback is doing in the pocket. And if the Packers 268 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 1: are able to pressure Tom Brady a little bit, are 269 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 1: you able to not allow him to to see the 270 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 1: entire field? Is Darius Smith up in his business? That's 271 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: going to be a big, important, critical role to this 272 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 1: because at some point in the game is good and 273 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 1: as solid as Ronald Jones is and that running game 274 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 1: is the game is going to be in you know, 275 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 1: tom Brady's hand. Where do the Packers how do they 276 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 1: respond to that? Where are they in that play that? 277 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 1: That's gonna be a big thing to why. Yeah. On 278 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 1: the Packers hoping to get healthy On the defensive side 279 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 1: of the ball, Kevin King did not practice on Wednesday. 280 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 1: We'll see if there's any potential for him to return, 281 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 1: But Rashawn Gary back at practice for Green Bay. As 282 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 1: far as the pass rush goes on the offensive side 283 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 1: of the ball, Tyler Irvin as of this taping hasn't 284 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 1: practiced yet for Green Bay. So that's the injury situation 285 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:25,439 Speaker 1: for the Packers, King and Irvin. Otherwise, everybody else so 286 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: far looks like they could be good to go on Sunday. Yeah, 287 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 1: and then you know, depending on what happens with Kevin, 288 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 1: that's where it might be Kadar Holman, could be Josh Jackson. 289 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 1: Somebody's gonna have to step up into that role in 290 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 1: that boundary corner spot because you just get the feeling 291 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 1: that they like Shannon Sullivan in that you know Nickel, 292 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 1: you know role. He can play perimeters, so he's not 293 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 1: out of that card either. But the way that Mike 294 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 1: Pettan has played this defense, he likes being able to 295 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 1: keep guys in certain spots, so that that would be 296 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 1: a big loss. And then also Tyler Irvin on returns 297 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 1: is the other thing to consider too. You have Sullivan 298 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 1: is the backup on kickoffs, Jackson is the backup on punts. 299 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 1: But then you know Areas Shepherd is obviously on the 300 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 1: fifty three man roster. Again, he handled those duties during 301 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 1: the early part of last season. There's always gonna be questions. 302 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 1: They're seventeen weeks and you know it's a it's a 303 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 1: injury rate league. Um, so we'll have to see exactly 304 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:16,320 Speaker 1: how that shuffles out. Yeah, well, before we go west, Um, 305 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 1: we'll take a quick look at some other games around 306 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 1: the NFC in Week six, and the first one that 307 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 1: jumps out to me is Chicago at Carolina the Bears 308 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 1: are four and one, They'll be coming off of you know, 309 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 1: the mini by after the Thursday night game, just like 310 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 1: the Buccaneers, so they'll be a little bit rested. A 311 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 1: lot of people wondering just where the Bears really are 312 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 1: at four and one, and with Folds at quarterback, and 313 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 1: where this is headed. Carolina a very quiet three and two, 314 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 1: tied for first place in the NFC South with the 315 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 1: Saints and the Buccaneers, who are also both three and two. 316 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 1: This is a really interesting one. I mean, hey, you know, 317 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 1: if you're talking about it under the radar team Teddy 318 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 1: Bridgewater and the Panthers Christian McCaffrey, these guys, that's a 319 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 1: tough division there. I know Atlanta is struggling, but the 320 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 1: Saints and the Bucks are are not to be trifled with. 321 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 1: And and Carolina can say, hey, if they knock off 322 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 1: the Bears, Carolina gets to four and two, sends a 323 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 1: whole sort of sets up a whole new picture for 324 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 1: the NFC South. Yeah yeah, and as Matt Rule kind 325 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 1: of tries to put his stamp on that team, it's 326 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 1: quite the way to start things out. Here's what I 327 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 1: love the most though. Okay, so lady on Bell is 328 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 1: a free agent now. And the big big scuttle buttons 329 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 1: who which which futured you know, Jets opponent? Is he 330 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 1: gonna end up signing with here or whatever. The thing 331 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 1: that has completely flown absolutely under the radar this week 332 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 1: is Mike Davis facing the Chicago Bears. I mean, Mike 333 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 1: Davis has been terrific having to supplant and injured Christian McCaffrey. 334 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 1: You're absolutely right on Bridgewater. I've been the biggest Teddy 335 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 1: Bridgewater fan forever. I love the way he plays a position. 336 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 1: He looks confident again, he's standing tall in the pocket, 337 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 1: he's making plays. But here's Mike Davis who kind of 338 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 1: was left for dead last year. He's never really gotten 339 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 1: a full opportunity, and now he's making some place for 340 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 1: the Carolina Panthers. You want to talk about a guy 341 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 1: that probably has some fire in his belly going into 342 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 1: this game. I look at at Davis is a guy 343 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 1: that that could potentially be looking to break out. And 344 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 1: it's a credit to him and also some of those 345 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 1: skill positions on the on the Panthers that they've been 346 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 1: able to wade through not having McCaffrey on the field. Yeah, 347 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 1: well another one here is well Atlanta is that Minnesota. Obviously, 348 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 1: the Falcons in the circle the Wagons mode with Raheem 349 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 1: Morris taking over as interim coach, will see, you know, 350 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 1: we'll see just what that does for the Falcons. The Vikings, 351 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 1: on the other hand, how do they bounce back from 352 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 1: that gut punch of a loss in Seattle, And not 353 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 1: just that one loss, but the Vikings here are looking 354 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 1: at their trying to avoid one in five. You know, 355 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 1: they need they absolutely have to win this game to 356 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 1: get to two and four or everybody's gonna absolutely right 357 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 1: Minnesota off if they get their fifth loss here by 358 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 1: mid October. Well, first and foremost, knock on wood that 359 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 1: this game gets played and everything turns out okay in Atlanta, 360 00:16:57,440 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 1: true enough, so sending positive vibes their way. Obviously they're 361 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 1: taking care of their business right now based off all 362 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:05,879 Speaker 1: the reports. But this is an interesting game from Minnesota 363 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:10,160 Speaker 1: because you just played your best effort, your best almost 364 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:15,359 Speaker 1: four quarter game against Seattle and unfortunately you come up short. 365 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 1: How does that team respond Because as you and I know, 366 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 1: there aren't any glamour points in this league. You don't 367 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 1: get a nice little Asterix next to you for you know, 368 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:26,119 Speaker 1: a job well done. You gotta win the game or 369 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 1: you don't. And unfortunately for the Vikings in that particular case, 370 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:31,679 Speaker 1: they didn't do it. So now you're taking on an 371 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 1: Atlanta team that is really reeling, that is at the 372 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 1: bottom of the league. They made a coaching change, their 373 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 1: defenses and shambles. Right now, can you rise to the 374 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:43,639 Speaker 1: occasion and do what you're supposed to do? I have 375 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 1: faith in Minnesota. I think they probably will if this 376 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:48,439 Speaker 1: game gets you know, goes off without a hitch. But 377 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 1: it's a gut check because it's not always easy to 378 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 1: pull yourself back up by the bootstraps after you have 379 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:55,159 Speaker 1: a you know, a really demoralizing loss like that that 380 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 1: goes right down to the wire. Yeah, And sometimes teams 381 00:17:57,880 --> 00:17:59,919 Speaker 1: that lose their head coach, like the Falcon said that 382 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 1: first game, you know, there's there's there's a there's just 383 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 1: a different energy, there's a different attitude to everything. All 384 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:09,400 Speaker 1: of the speculation over the head coaches future, that's all 385 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 1: taking care of the team is moving on, and it's 386 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 1: you know, sometimes those guys in the locker room and go, okay, 387 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 1: all right, you know what, what do we have to lose. 388 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 1: I mean absolutely the other one I want to talk 389 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 1: about quickly, um before we wrap this up here, though, 390 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 1: The Rams at San Francisco a very important game in 391 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 1: the NFC West because the Rams looking to get to 392 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:34,679 Speaker 1: five and one, keep pace with the Seattle Seahawks in 393 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 1: their division and obviously with the Packers and Bears and 394 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 1: these other teams that have the top records in the 395 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:44,440 Speaker 1: NFC right now. San Francisco forty Niners trying to avoid 396 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:48,239 Speaker 1: getting their fourth loss this early in the season, and 397 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 1: they've had injury problems obviously Nick Bosa, Jimmy Garoppolo, and 398 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 1: the list is certainly longer than that. Eric Armstead as well. 399 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:59,119 Speaker 1: This is a really really big game for San Francisco 400 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:01,680 Speaker 1: to avoid loss number four, and it's a big game 401 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 1: for the Rams to, you know, kind of put your 402 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:06,639 Speaker 1: foot on the throat of a team, a division rival 403 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:09,120 Speaker 1: that's down a little bit here. Yeah. The great thing 404 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 1: is for the Packers is that you always six times 405 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 1: a year you get to watch the NFC West kind 406 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 1: of beat up on himself. Uh. I mean, that is 407 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 1: a champions division right now, with you know, Seattle getting 408 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 1: off to the start that they have. I don't think 409 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 1: anybody thought the Rams would be down for long. You 410 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 1: know that last year was a little bit of a setback, 411 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:32,199 Speaker 1: but they're still pretty strong in what they believe the defense. 412 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 1: I mean, they have the best defensive player in the league, 413 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 1: um and certainly you know, I seemed to have found 414 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 1: their cornerback here for the foreseeable future. And just San 415 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:41,239 Speaker 1: Francisco is the one we're all trying to figure out 416 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 1: right now. Can they rally here? Because as we were 417 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 1: just talking about with the Vikings, I mean, when you 418 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 1: make it to the promised Land of that's Super Bowl, 419 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:50,119 Speaker 1: you come back the next year and you start to 420 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 1: find some adversity, how do you respond to it? I 421 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 1: think Kyle Shanahan is a brilliant coach. Obviously, we've talked 422 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 1: so much about what that entire team has done and 423 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:00,680 Speaker 1: how they've gone about their business. John Lench, you tip 424 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 1: their cap to them. But facts are what the facts are. 425 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 1: And you're two and three and you're taking on a 426 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:06,400 Speaker 1: team in this case that is four and one has 427 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:08,200 Speaker 1: been one of the front runners in the NFL for 428 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 1: the last three seasons. It's a tough matchup and they've 429 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 1: got to find a way to respond. Super Bowl hangovers 430 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 1: can be real, man. You get to that, you get 431 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:17,679 Speaker 1: to that game and you lose it, especially losing it 432 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:21,680 Speaker 1: in close, in close, devastating fashion. I mean, just ask 433 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:25,120 Speaker 1: the Falcons. Obviously, the forty nine is going through that now. 434 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 1: There's a lot of a lot of history of teams 435 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:32,360 Speaker 1: struggling that year after losing a Super Bowl. It's it's 436 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 1: a very real thing in this league. Yeah, it is. 437 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 1: And in San Francisco is trying to pull themselves out 438 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 1: of it right now because there's still a lot of 439 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 1: talent there on both sides of the question about it. 440 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 1: But the problem is is that when you're already sit 441 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 1: at three losses and you have another eleven games ahead 442 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:52,400 Speaker 1: of you, and yeah, it's tough. Yeah, definitely. Well with that, 443 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:54,439 Speaker 1: we will call it a wrap on this edition of 444 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 1: Packers Unscripted. Be sure to follow all of our coverage 445 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 1: of the team and all of the action from Sundays 446 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:03,679 Speaker 1: big game down at Tampa on Packers dot com for 447 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:06,360 Speaker 1: Wes I Am Mike. Thank you for tuning in, everybody, 448 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 1: See you next time. M