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Speaker 3: dot com. Hello everybody, we are officially done with the
Speaker 3: first Joint Address slash State of the Union. According to
Speaker 3: our research, if it was a State of the Union,
Speaker 3: which can we all agree to it.
Speaker 1: Is, it would be the longest State of the Union.
Speaker 3: Ever delivered by an American president, beating significantly President Clinton's
Speaker 3: record in the year of two thousand, which was an
Speaker 3: hour and twenty eight minutes. This one, by my rough
Speaker 3: back of the Napkin math, is roughly around an hour
Speaker 3: and forty three And yeah, it was long.
Speaker 1: It was long.
Speaker 4: Could have used an edit.
Speaker 1: Could have used a few more kind of reminded.
Speaker 3: Remember, God, I'm trying to think of the first one
Speaker 3: of the first ones we covered here where Biden was
Speaker 3: just like literally a laundry list.
Speaker 1: I think we were all watching.
Speaker 4: It's very common.
Speaker 1: It's very common.
Speaker 2: I mean, let's not constituencies, they got to check the
Speaker 2: box on whatever.
Speaker 4: But yeah, it needed a good edit.
Speaker 1: It was long.
Speaker 3: It was long, and so that's we're trying to call
Speaker 3: some of the best takeaways for all of you.
Speaker 1: I would say the biggest one was no new.
Speaker 3: Policy announcement on Ukraine, but there were some significant domestic
Speaker 3: policy events that are that definitely bear registration. But the
Speaker 3: thing is is that we should probably start with the
Speaker 3: Democratic protest by Congressman Al Green, who opened the remarks.
Speaker 3: There was some initial booing that was happening from the
Speaker 3: Democratic side. Congressman Green was standing for the duration of
Speaker 3: the first couple of minutes before he was kicked out.
Speaker 3: Anyone want to saying anything before we before.
Speaker 2: We make people subject people to more clips from this
Speaker 2: very long we just it just gets on top of
Speaker 2: the like sure top of mind thoughts. I mean to me,
Speaker 2: the big takeaways were the actually lack of new policy
Speaker 2: specifics with regard to tariffs in Ukraine in particular, where
Speaker 2: I think, you know, that's certainly where we perked up
Speaker 2: and we're listening like, is you going to.
Speaker 4: Say, are the terriffs on? Are the tariffs off?
Speaker 2: Still don't know, which I think probably indicates that the
Speaker 2: signaling that they might be rolled back could be the case,
Speaker 2: because he certainly wasn't touting the Canada in Mexico twenty
Speaker 2: five percent across the board. He was focusing on, Oh
Speaker 2: we did this with China with steel. Oh we're looking
Speaker 2: we're doing these reciprocal tariffs April, second, April, second down
Speaker 2: the road. He mentioned Canada and Mexico, but he did
Speaker 2: not specifically tout the terrorifts that just went into effect,
Speaker 2: which you know, if I'm reading in between the lines,
Speaker 2: I feel like, Okay, well, that's probably an indication that
Speaker 2: it is Lutnik was right. They are probably rolling back
Speaker 2: or diminished to something.
Speaker 4: Ukraine. I kind of feel the same way.
Speaker 2: You know, he talked about the letter that he got
Speaker 2: from Zelensky that we talked about earlier that is already public.
Speaker 2: He talked about the desire to make a deal, and
Speaker 2: you know, moving forward, So I think probably the reporting
Speaker 2: about them continuing to work on this rare semnial deal
Speaker 2: is also probably let's too accurate. I mean, it seems
Speaker 2: like based on what he's saying, but he did not
Speaker 2: confirm any of those pieces.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is actually kind of surprising that there was
Speaker 3: no new major initiative either on the tariffs on Ukraine,
Speaker 3: especially because they were hyping that from news level. A
Speaker 3: lot of the speech was basically messaging, So I was
Speaker 3: clocking the time, so statistically most people turn off around
Speaker 3: ten pm. Just they watched the first like thirty to
Speaker 3: forty five minutes. Yeah, the first thirty forty five minutes.
Speaker 3: So this is basically just a campaign speech. It was
Speaker 3: like we won the election, historic landslide mandate. That's with
Speaker 3: the Algreen protests and all of that happened. There was
Speaker 3: a lot of culture war stuff there during that time period,
Speaker 3: a lot of DEI trans CRT basically all the greatest
Speaker 3: hits uh from Trump. We eventually then started to get
Speaker 3: to the economy, doge and social security, and we're going
Speaker 3: to play some of that for you, But any other thoughts.
Speaker 1: One of you guys gives your Mirror summary too before
Speaker 1: we play, at least on the tariffs.
Speaker 5: On the tariffs front, at least he described why he
Speaker 5: was going to do them, Like with with the Canada
Speaker 5: and Mexico ones. He's just been telling us they've been
Speaker 5: ripping us off and we subsidized Canada. And that's quite
Speaker 5: light on those though. He went back to the old school.
Speaker 5: We're going to if you're not a if you don't
Speaker 5: have steel, you don't have a country. We're going to
Speaker 5: make steel, right, and so we're going to do these
Speaker 5: targeted tariffs on steel and like aluminum, like so at
Speaker 5: least like there was some like ethos behind it, like
Speaker 5: back to the Oh, that's that's the thing about tariffs.
Speaker 5: You're trying to actually build up industry inside the country
Speaker 5: rather than we've been suffering through this like fiction about
Speaker 5: these these tariffs being fentanyl related.
Speaker 2: I mean, heyl there too, the minuscules.
Speaker 1: I can either agree with it or disagree with it.
Speaker 4: That's you know.
Speaker 6: I think we've spent almost a decade now always potentially
Speaker 6: anticipating I don't mean we so much, I mean the
Speaker 6: media more broadly, some new version of Donald Trump, like
Speaker 6: he doesn't have to run for re election now. He
Speaker 6: felt like he was coasting on these high approval ratings
Speaker 6: as his administration started.
Speaker 7: He's got Elon Musk by his side.
Speaker 6: And what he did was give a very like classic Trump, rambling, riffing,
Speaker 6: very partisan. He ribbed Pocahontas in front of her face
Speaker 6: like Elizabeth Warren. He called her Pocahontas during this media.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what she must have done something something about the war,
Speaker 3: like hold something up, Like I'm saying.
Speaker 1: What was this?
Speaker 2: The only I saw her like scrolling on her phone
Speaker 2: at one point. But I didn't even make her like
Speaker 2: participating in the protest whatever. But I mean, I don't
Speaker 2: know that she necessarily had to do it. He just
Speaker 2: has like animistic He just you know, whatever.
Speaker 7: It's a thing he doesn't changed, I think change on.
Speaker 4: Yes and no.
Speaker 2: The style of the speech, yes, typical Trump, you know,
Speaker 2: going through his greatest hits in terms of his grand
Speaker 2: election victory, and you know, calling Democrats out to their
Speaker 2: fail like you would never clap for me, no matter what,
Speaker 2: you know, putting them on.
Speaker 1: Flats like that.
Speaker 2: It's so said, no mater, how I did what I did,
Speaker 2: it wouldn't be enough for you people. And then you know,
Speaker 2: at the end of course, he's got to. He goes
Speaker 2: back to retell the story of the assassination attempt and
Speaker 2: how he was saved by God to save the country,
Speaker 2: which makes me very uncomfortable when people start putting themselves
Speaker 2: in those sort of messianic terms.
Speaker 4: But you know, again classic Trump up.
Speaker 2: But you know, on the like on the economic policy front,
Speaker 2: as I'm just listening to the actual policies, like this
Speaker 2: is a freaking Paul Ryan speech, Like we're talking about deregulation,
Speaker 2: we're talking about social security, we're talking about tax cuts.
Speaker 2: I mean, it was very I was like, this is
Speaker 2: a coke network policy agenda.
Speaker 1: You have a with tariffs?
Speaker 2: He did, Yeah, that got but again that he's like,
Speaker 2: I mean, we're not even clear on what that is.
Speaker 2: But the piece that he frontloaded with was all the
Speaker 2: just like standard conventional Republican stuff that he ran so
Speaker 2: hard against and positioned himself so hard against back in
Speaker 2: twenty fifteen. Now we all know the record of the
Speaker 2: actual Trump administration the first time around, where their biggest
Speaker 2: accomplishment was a giant tax cut for the rich.
Speaker 4: But to me, that combined with he.
Speaker 2: Was you know, trying to get applause lines on oh
Speaker 2: we're going to get rid of the budget deficit, and
Speaker 2: then reading down the list of all the wasteful government
Speaker 2: programs like the transgender mice, you know, all of those things,
Speaker 2: like that's Fox. I used to do a lot of
Speaker 2: Fox News hits back in the you know, post to.
Speaker 4: Like twenty eleven time frame.
Speaker 7: That was the spot.
Speaker 4: And yeah, it was every day.
Speaker 2: It was like, oh my god, they spent ten dollars
Speaker 2: per month in at this conference.
Speaker 1: Or they're always very love it was all.
Speaker 2: And so I'm like, oh, this is such a throwback
Speaker 2: to the Paul Ryan talking points, just delivered through a
Speaker 2: Trump you know Trumpian pinas.
Speaker 5: All that chaos and all we get is like different
Speaker 5: lies about social security.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's out.
Speaker 5: There saying that like one hundred and sixty year olds
Speaker 5: are getting solid security.
Speaker 2: And it's like even Fox News actually debunks that talking.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's say let's say that commentary. So do you
Speaker 1: want to just do the social skillity, Go.
Speaker 2: Ahead and cueue up social security. Let me see what
Speaker 2: number number five? Number five guys, if you can cueue
Speaker 2: this up where he starts talking about social security and
Speaker 2: he's reiterating the lies that Elon spread about the you know,
Speaker 2: people who are supposedly three hundred years old or whatever
Speaker 2: and still getting so scary. We know none of this
Speaker 2: is true, but it doesn't matter. It's still in the
Speaker 2: present speech. If we've got that, let's go ahead and
Speaker 2: roll it.
Speaker 8: We're also identifying shocking levels of incompetence and probable fraud
Speaker 8: in the Social Security program for our seniors, and that
Speaker 8: areur seniors and people that we love rely on. Believe
Speaker 8: it or not, Government databases list four point seven million
Speaker 8: Social Security members from people aged one hundred to one
Speaker 8: hundred nine years old.
Speaker 2: I mean, make no mistake when you're setting up. And
Speaker 2: this is why it was significant.
Speaker 4: That Trump brought it up.
Speaker 2: When you were bringing this up, you were creating a
Speaker 2: pretext to cut the program, and again totally counter to
Speaker 2: the way Trump has always positioned himself. And he'll use this,
Speaker 2: these lies about alleged fraud to justify the cuts. And
Speaker 2: we already see, you know, dogs gutting the Social Security
Speaker 2: administration is actually a warning from Martin Malley, who was
Speaker 2: previously Social Security Administrator, that it cannot the system cannot
Speaker 2: handle that level of cuts, and that people should start
Speaker 2: saving their money in anticipation that the program could face
Speaker 2: disruption just from not.
Speaker 4: Having a enough staff the hotline.
Speaker 2: You know, people who answer the hotlines are being cut
Speaker 2: offices across the country are being cut. So to me,
Speaker 2: when the word social security came out of his mouth
Speaker 2: in the context of like, oh, there's all this giant
Speaker 2: fraud et cetera, et cetera, that is a huge indication
Speaker 2: of direction.
Speaker 3: That was the most important political moment of the speech
Speaker 3: to me. I think I said that to you guys
Speaker 3: at the time. I was like, that is very important.
Speaker 3: Not only is it Donald Trump endorsing the elon strategy
Speaker 3: around that, but he's taking ownership of what is very
Speaker 3: likely to be extremely unpopular. And this gets to the
Speaker 3: way that this will all happen. So it's very unlikely
Speaker 3: to see a top line across the board cut of
Speaker 3: Social Security right pass by the Congress and the next
Speaker 3: tax bill, even in terms of entitlement reform or whatever.
Speaker 3: But there may be at least elements to chip away
Speaker 3: at the program or at the very least like reduced
Speaker 3: successibility now currently regardless, I mean, you've got your hand
Speaker 3: basically right there on the rail the most potent political weapon.
Speaker 3: I mean, I remember being with the four of you
Speaker 3: guys talking when Biden had that problem where he's like hey,
Speaker 3: He's like, okay, we're all agreeing, we're not going to
Speaker 3: cut Social Security. So the problem that they have is
Speaker 3: even if they pursue no cuts, is that even tampering
Speaker 3: with the program is going to have tremendous blowback from
Speaker 3: a lot of people. But last thing on this, they
Speaker 3: may be able to get around it because they also
Speaker 3: said during the speech the no tax on Social Security,
Speaker 3: which we all won't know, will be extremely popular with
Speaker 3: a lot of seniors. I mean how much I'm thinking
Speaker 3: if you're one hundred percent reliant on Social Security, like
Speaker 3: that's what probably what almost ten fifteen to twenty five
Speaker 3: percent of your income that's going back to tax. I've
Speaker 3: said before, I think it's crazy, Like why does the
Speaker 3: government give you money if just to take it back?
Speaker 3: It actually is very inefficient.
Speaker 5: The Reagan Compromise brought that in, which is what to
Speaker 5: have income tax on social It didn't used to be taxed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it makes no sense.
Speaker 3: It's like, why would you give you a lump sum
Speaker 3: of money and then take a portion of it back
Speaker 3: and expect you to file it and then we'll take
Speaker 3: it back forty five days later.
Speaker 1: It's ridiculous.
Speaker 6: If there's only one interesting thing other than everything you
Speaker 6: guys have said that I noticed on this point is
Speaker 6: his line about social security as he started this conversation.
Speaker 6: He is slightly new framing from the old Republican talking point.
Speaker 6: He says, we are also identifying shocking levels of incompetence
Speaker 6: and probable fraud in the social security program our seniors
Speaker 6: rely on, which is interesting because Republicans used to just
Speaker 6: demonize social Security, and in this he's trying to frame
Speaker 6: it as saying, I'm saving our seniors from the fraud
Speaker 6: that is dragging down social security. To Ryan's point about
Speaker 6: you're just dressing up the same old talking points about
Speaker 6: social security in different language, that's basically the best example
Speaker 6: of it. He's saying, we're doing all of this tea
Speaker 6: party talking points or all this tea party rhetoric if
Speaker 6: you tweak it to say we're doing this to save
Speaker 6: the program.
Speaker 5: Paul Ryan two was saying he was going to save
Speaker 5: social security. Yes, by privatizy.
Speaker 1: He was like, We're going to raise a retirement agent.
Speaker 2: But the idea the way it's always framed, Oh my god,
Speaker 2: this is going that I care so much about is
Speaker 2: going bankrupt and we have to save it.
Speaker 4: Like that's the way it's always Frank trying to.
Speaker 5: End since the nineteen thirties, Right, we really loved so much.
Speaker 2: But we're just really interested in the best interest of
Speaker 2: this program. That's what these cuts are all about. So,
Speaker 2: but it is a little bit of a twist.
Speaker 4: On that, but it's not that far from the way
Speaker 4: that it was portrayed in the Paul Ryan era.
Speaker 7: But it's not.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that's the thing, Like overall, it did
Speaker 6: sound like twenty twelve.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Look so at this point, anyone who's surprised
Speaker 3: by that, Like, I don't know what it was Like
Speaker 3: we had him for whole first time, didn't we Like
Speaker 3: where all of this went through.
Speaker 1: He said he won't touch security, Medicare. He probably won't
Speaker 1: at the top.
Speaker 3: Line in the way that Paul Ryan and all those
Speaker 3: other folks will this chipping away and all of that,
Speaker 3: Like I don't, I don't. I'm not yet sure how
Speaker 3: far they're going to go or if they're really that stupid,
Speaker 3: Like are you really so stupid that you would actually
Speaker 3: acts what's seventy five percent of the SSA offices or
Speaker 3: privatize it or whatever.
Speaker 1: It's like, good luck. See how it happened to George W.
Speaker 6: Bush in a project two thousand and five, a project
Speaker 6: led by two billionaires.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 3: I mean the optive optics of it would be insane,
Speaker 3: especially if it happened at the very same time that
Speaker 3: you passed a massive tax cut and extension for the rich, which.
Speaker 1: They are all on record they're going to do it, Like.
Speaker 3: The only question is if they also include the no
Speaker 3: tax on tips. I will say I do think that
Speaker 3: the tips and social security thing could potentially I wouldn't
Speaker 3: say it saved them, but make it more of a
Speaker 3: wash than the last time. Twenty seventeen was just so
Speaker 3: naked in terms of what the actual policy was. But
Speaker 3: the tips thing, I mean, we all know it's gonna
Speaker 3: be very popular and they're going to message the hell
Speaker 3: out of it. And same with the no tax on
Speaker 3: social security. I could see that being like some sort
Speaker 3: of counter valance and all that. But I mean, look, they're.
Speaker 1: Playing with fire. They're playing with the same fire they're
Speaker 1: playing with under Rick Scott. Like it just never ends.
Speaker 1: I don't know why.
Speaker 2: There's also no guarantees that those policies make it in.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's not spell down in the Republican budget
Speaker 2: and actually.
Speaker 1: The yeah, they don't want to do it.
Speaker 2: The numbers as they exist, you know, and what they
Speaker 2: have said that they're working with in terms of the
Speaker 2: amount that they've allocated for tax cuts would not be
Speaker 2: sufficient to include no tax on tips and no tax
Speaker 2: on we know, the four trillion dollar tax cut, like
Speaker 2: that part is locked in the rest of it. And
Speaker 2: then you also have to throw in there the salt
Speaker 2: tax situation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they got to go to twenty percent.
Speaker 2: For them as well, and that's yeah, that's expensive. So
Speaker 2: there's also just like no guarantee that any of that
Speaker 2: actually happens. And like I said, it was not actually
Speaker 2: in the Republican budget that passed the House that Trump
Speaker 2: had backed.
Speaker 3: The ideal is we all just stop all this fakery
Speaker 3: on the debt and we just include all those things.
Speaker 3: You know. It's like can actually put some of the
Speaker 3: good stuff in there at the very least. So we
Speaker 3: talked about social security, we should definitely talk about doze.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so we've got number four guys, if you could
Speaker 1: queue that up.
Speaker 3: So Elon got a huge shout out from Donald Trump.
Speaker 3: Donald Trump may have slipped up a little bit here, though,
Speaker 3: because in this acknowledgment he not only acknowledges Elon, he
Speaker 3: actually says Elon is the head of Doze, which is
Speaker 3: the opposite of what his government is currently arguing in court.
Speaker 3: But nonetheless it was important because.
Speaker 4: Amy there to get her round of apply America.
Speaker 1: She's in South America.
Speaker 4: She's the one that playing.
Speaker 3: She's a She's a three hundred and twenty six year
Speaker 3: old woman in South America.
Speaker 1: Uh so Elon got a shout out.
Speaker 3: This was important just for I mean, look like Maga
Speaker 3: is now like equals Elon. And you really see this
Speaker 3: where Trump acknowledges him, he gets the entire Republican Party.
Speaker 1: The optics of this are.
Speaker 3: Wild who are on the floor of the House of
Speaker 3: Representatives to look up and to clap at Elon.
Speaker 1: As Elon stands. He did wear a suit.
Speaker 3: Though, so apparently the guy does O one number four guys,
Speaker 3: let's take a lesson, and.
Speaker 8: To that end, I have created the brand new Department
Speaker 8: of Government Efficiency Go perhaps you've.
Speaker 9: Heard of it, which is headed by Elon Musk, who's
Speaker 9: in the gallery tonight.
Speaker 3: So there you go not only huge Elon shout out,
Speaker 3: but then you know, subsequently talking about there was a
Speaker 3: good I would say, what do you guys think like
Speaker 3: five to seven.
Speaker 1: Minute period of just listing dose stuff.
Speaker 3: That's where the transmis thing comes from. So that I
Speaker 3: thought was pretty important just in terms of not only
Speaker 3: not backing away from Doge openly endorsing it, making Elon
Speaker 3: a central part of the state of the Union talking
Speaker 3: here about the social security So on the economic front,
Speaker 3: this is the one where they they don't yet seem
Speaker 3: to sense what they perceive, that they perceive any danger.
Speaker 3: I think the only sign of it maybe is on
Speaker 3: the egg price line that he did deliver.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's all I really saw, how he kind of
Speaker 2: opened the economic piece. But yeah, I was just trying
Speaker 2: to look back up the tweet. But Portnoy had tweeted
Speaker 2: something about like Trump had a line that was, you know,
Speaker 2: will no longer be ruled.
Speaker 4: By unelected bureaucrats?
Speaker 2: And port Nooy right, really was like, well, that's kind
Speaker 2: of a tough thing to make really, and Elon is
Speaker 2: out there running the entire government as co president, so
Speaker 2: that is ruled by unelected bureaucrats.
Speaker 3: Yeah, why Dave's Matt is because there's a crypto recession
Speaker 3: right now and he's got shit coins, so he still
Speaker 3: needs to sell to that.
Speaker 4: He's working through.
Speaker 2: He's working through some things, but still interesting to see
Speaker 2: the Portnoy response there. I mean, listen, it's this is
Speaker 2: the most significant difference between Trump two point zero and
Speaker 2: Trump one point zero is elon And you know, you
Speaker 2: see it in the way that Trump has shifted his ideology.
Speaker 4: I mean always some.
Speaker 2: Of his populist rhetoric and approach was fakery, given the
Speaker 2: commitment to tax cuts for the rich.
Speaker 4: But the austerity.
Speaker 2: Framing, like spending all of these minutes going through these
Speaker 2: quote unquote wasteful programs which they frame us fraud and
Speaker 2: that always irritates me because it's really just like spending
Speaker 2: that you don't like. Ryan grim here is the one
Speaker 2: who has found the most fraud than anyone.
Speaker 1: I did not get credit from the podium was outrageous.
Speaker 1: I gave you credit. Were Trump right?
Speaker 4: They're the ones that found the four hundred million dollars the.
Speaker 2: Armored Tesla thing that actually was It looks like they
Speaker 2: like cook the books to be like, oh, we could
Speaker 2: slip this in and no one will notice wrong, Ryan
Speaker 2: Grim will notice. So I think Jeremy Scahill called it
Speaker 2: the Department of Grim Efficiency.
Speaker 1: That's pretty good.
Speaker 4: I like it.
Speaker 3: That's a dosee I could get behind.
Speaker 5: Had four hundred million dollars armored Tesla's who needs an
Speaker 5: armored tesla?
Speaker 1: Losing action?
Speaker 2: You could have set electric vehicles and then it would
Speaker 2: be like, you know, very lip coded, get.
Speaker 3: Away with it, all right, We have the egg price,
Speaker 3: guys number three, can you queue that up?
Speaker 1: So this was an important line for Trump.
Speaker 3: It's kind of how it began the Economics Action, but
Speaker 3: it was an acknowledgment of being elected with a mandate
Speaker 3: on inflation and trying.
Speaker 1: To address it.
Speaker 3: So let's go ahead and put it up there on
Speaker 3: the screen and play it for everyone, just to give
Speaker 3: everyone a taste.
Speaker 10: Joe Biden especially, let the price of eggs get out
Speaker 10: of control. The egg price is out of control, and
Speaker 10: we're working hard to get it back down.
Speaker 8: Secretary, do a good job on that. You inherited a
Speaker 8: total mess from the previous administration.
Speaker 1: Do a good job, all right.
Speaker 3: So you can also see some of the Democrats that
Speaker 3: were leaving there with the resist t shirts that were on.
Speaker 4: I think that was. I think that was Jasmine Crockett.
Speaker 1: Yes, it was. Do we want to clount on some
Speaker 1: of the Democrats? What do you think, Well, me, let.
Speaker 4: Me climb on the egg thing.
Speaker 2: Well, it's just, I mean, hard to really make this
Speaker 2: case on a day when you announced twenty five percent
Speaker 2: across the board terrace Canada and Mexico. And he has
Speaker 2: said that he does not really think that inflation is
Speaker 2: the reason that people voted for him, and that has
Speaker 2: certainly been reflective in the lack of any sort of
Speaker 2: an approach to dealing with inflation. And so to me,
Speaker 2: it was really noteworthy that this was kind of the
Speaker 2: first he did a bunch of culture war stuff and
Speaker 2: a lot of like patting himself on the back for
Speaker 2: an election victory and trying to own the Libs and
Speaker 2: the Dems whatever, and then the first economic.
Speaker 4: Piece he gets to is eggs.
Speaker 2: So it did indicate to me like, Okay, the administration,
Speaker 2: whoever wrote this speech and Trump himself feel like they've
Speaker 2: got a bit of a problem here.
Speaker 4: And the pulse have reflected that if you ask people,
Speaker 4: do you feel like they.
Speaker 2: Are doing enough on prices, pretty overwhelming when people are
Speaker 2: like no, I do not feel like they're doing enough
Speaker 2: on prices, and that is one of the political challenges
Speaker 2: and warning signs for them. Also, as we played in
Speaker 2: that Harry Entin sat before we got into this, you know,
Speaker 2: his numbers, his economic numbers in terms of the approval
Speaker 2: of his handling of the economy are low, and that's
Speaker 2: always been a strong suit for him.
Speaker 4: So I do feel like they were.
Speaker 2: Trying to play a little bit of cleanup on the
Speaker 2: egg prices thing, you know, blame it on Biden, say well,
Speaker 2: I promise we're working really hard on it, et cetera.
Speaker 4: And that was noteworthy to me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it could work for now, Like I said, you know,
Speaker 3: you have a little bit of runway, but after two three.
Speaker 1: Months, like you know, the runways, the runway is going
Speaker 1: to be over.
Speaker 3: Especially if they feel all this doze stuff. This is
Speaker 3: my greatest I mean, I still can't get away from this.
Speaker 3: It's almost fifty days in to the Trump administration, almost
Speaker 3: halfway of the first one hundred days. The most consequential
Speaker 3: part and what it's just been doge elon Like there's
Speaker 3: been almost nothing else.
Speaker 1: I haven't even seen deportation take Matt.
Speaker 3: You know, like that I saw I think it was
Speaker 3: Joe Wisenthal said that he's like the only thing that's
Speaker 3: really surprised me other than Doge is the fact that
Speaker 3: deportation has not taken such a center stage like they've
Speaker 3: had Tom Homan on, They've had a few like high.
Speaker 1: Profiles out there. Whatever.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Jack, they're trying to you know, I was watching
Speaker 3: Fox News at home, not by choice because the whole
Speaker 3: Ukraine thing. I was trying to watch it live, and
Speaker 3: I got an ad from Kirsty No telling I legal
Speaker 3: immigrants to go home.
Speaker 1: Like are they watching Fox News?
Speaker 4: There's some ways that they That's as.
Speaker 1: I was shocked by it. I was like, this is
Speaker 1: like the most inicient views of money.
Speaker 3: These are a bunch of like seventy year old white
Speaker 3: boomers who are watching this right now daytime Fox as well.
Speaker 5: So anyway, he did the Guantanamo things because it's a spectacle.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it was just a number he needs.
Speaker 3: But that's my point on that is that even with that,
Speaker 3: I mean, as far as I know all of that,
Speaker 3: it hasn't been like a particularly large number.
Speaker 2: It.
Speaker 3: They haven't necessarily been prioritizing criminals as opposed to like
Speaker 3: just whoever they happen to round up. There's never been
Speaker 3: any like transparency around it. They haven't released the daily
Speaker 3: figures the way that they have. Instead, they're trying to
Speaker 3: make these flash like spectacle things like you guys are saying,
Speaker 3: but like empirically, I mean, you can just look at
Speaker 3: the number and you can say this is not impressive whatsoever.
Speaker 1: I mean, look, you know, give credit where due.
Speaker 3: I guess on the border crossings, but that's not the
Speaker 3: same thing as opposed to kind of what was promised.
Speaker 3: So if you look at you know, on the inflation
Speaker 3: and the immigration point where there's two things, I would
Speaker 3: say he's probably the most responsible for getting him elected.
Speaker 3: You have not seen the vast majority of the energy
Speaker 3: getting focused on that he is hoping. And this speech
Speaker 3: really did crystallize a lot of like the Trump victory
Speaker 3: to me is look, I mean, he if you listen
Speaker 3: to the first forty five minutes of this, which statistically
Speaker 3: most people are watching, what was it was culture war
Speaker 3: all day long?
Speaker 1: Right, he believed it.
Speaker 3: Wasn't just bad it was, but it was that it
Speaker 3: was that, but it was like trans it was the
Speaker 3: greatest hits, like of all the Republican culture with.
Speaker 1: Our country important, woke, Our country will be woke.
Speaker 2: Free speech is back on a day that you know,
Speaker 2: when they're announcing their requires people actually read.
Speaker 6: He went on vaccines as well, like this was a
Speaker 6: lot of culture we're talking points.
Speaker 7: He was actually talking about how I can pull this up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, Bobby Kennedy is looking into Bobby Kennedy is
Speaker 2: looking into.
Speaker 1: We should look at he said.
Speaker 7: This is the quote he said we have.
Speaker 1: He's not at the end, but there was much later on.
Speaker 7: Right, But it's like the culture war thing.
Speaker 6: He said, since nineteen seventy five, rates of child cancer
Speaker 6: have increased more than forty percent. Reversing this trend as
Speaker 6: one of the top priorities of our new presidential Commission
Speaker 6: to Make America Healthy Again, Chared Bran, new Secretary of
Speaker 6: HHS RFK Junior. Our goals to get ToxS inst out
Speaker 6: of our environment, poisons out of our foods, supplying keep
Speaker 6: our children healthy and strong. As an example, not long ago,
Speaker 6: one in ten thousand children had autism.
Speaker 7: Now it's one in thirty.
Speaker 2: So the first part of that makes me so irritated, because,
Speaker 2: first of all, obviously they just cut a bunch of
Speaker 2: funding for research, including into you know, cancer, and in addition,
Speaker 2: they have spent the first period in office rolling back
Speaker 2: some of the restrictions on chemicals like pfasts.
Speaker 4: So yeah, it's just so I don't know.
Speaker 6: Me, it's just so he ended that section of a
Speaker 6: speech by saying something is wrong and we're going to
Speaker 6: find out what it is.
Speaker 1: So I mean, something is wrong. It's true.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, of that is.
Speaker 1: RK.
Speaker 7: Junior is looking into the vaccines. I don't idea.
Speaker 1: I didn't.
Speaker 3: I mean, I if you want it that, if you
Speaker 3: want that, you could take that from it.
Speaker 1: But I don't know. I didn't see it was necessarily.
Speaker 1: I mean, he was obviously signaling it if he.
Speaker 3: Like for the people who want to hear that, but
Speaker 3: it's also like on an empirical basis when people hear
Speaker 3: that those I'm not against.
Speaker 1: That, right, but it's me. It's my point around it
Speaker 1: all was.
Speaker 3: I was like, he believes that that is the most
Speaker 3: important reason why you want to me.
Speaker 1: That's what.
Speaker 3: There's no other reason why you would start forty five
Speaker 3: minutes of your speech off this way.
Speaker 1: It's obvious.
Speaker 3: So he thinks that this alone is going to be
Speaker 3: enough to coast him. And by the way, I think
Speaker 3: he could be right.
Speaker 11: I mean, there's a huge you know, the whole Maga
Speaker 11: universe online and all this, all the transgender like the
Speaker 11: woman who's standing up, who was hit by a woman
Speaker 11: by the.
Speaker 1: Volleyball thing like that.
Speaker 3: You know, that's what they live for, right, Like that's
Speaker 3: that's the reason Ben Shapiro and Matt Walshalls are in
Speaker 3: the audience.
Speaker 6: But it's it's also to get a contrast with Democrats
Speaker 6: not applauding those lines. It's very intentional, and that's I
Speaker 6: think it's powerful.
Speaker 4: With Peyton mcnat I read it a little different. You
Speaker 4: won't be surprised to hear.
Speaker 2: I mean, listen, it's the exact thing that Democrats do
Speaker 2: when they want to cover for their lack of agenda
Speaker 2: that delivers for working class people. They fix it on
Speaker 2: identity and cultural issues. And it's the same shit. It's
Speaker 2: just from Trump. This is you know, they like, people
Speaker 2: aren't happy with how the economy is going. They feel
Speaker 2: that it's getting worse and it already wasn't great. The
Speaker 2: you know, obviously today the stock market fell off a
Speaker 2: cliff and you've got, as we were saying before, the
Speaker 2: super sentiment can super spending down, and there's warnings in.
Speaker 4: The manufacturing sector.
Speaker 2: You've got this warning from the Atlanta Fed like people
Speaker 2: are not satisfied with that direction. And he really isn't
Speaker 2: offering anything in the near term that you can point to.
Speaker 2: I mean maybe no tax on tips, maybe, but so instead, ed,
Speaker 2: what do you do You usher in an agenda that's
Speaker 2: been really good for people like Elon Musk and other
Speaker 2: oligarchs by saying, oh.
Speaker 4: This is about DEI this is about woke. Woke is over.
Speaker 4: Don't you feel great?
Speaker 2: So that's how I read the reason why it was
Speaker 2: front loaded with culture war, the same reason that you
Speaker 2: know that Democrats who weren't delivering for working class people
Speaker 2: also would be in the culture war.
Speaker 1: I'm not disagreeing with the word you're saying.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I do think it's still obviously very
Speaker 3: politically powerful. Unfortunately, this is the hold that Trump has.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, guys, please remind me on a future show.
Speaker 3: A listener of our show who works for the DoD
Speaker 3: who voted for Trump sent me a very long email
Speaker 3: about why he voted for Republicans even though he works
Speaker 3: within the d D and his reasoning. It reminds me
Speaker 3: of all this because it was for cultural war reasons,
Speaker 3: specifically talking about Pepjoes whatever. If you recall I made
Speaker 3: that comment, I was like, I don't I was like,
Speaker 3: anyone who voted for the federal voted for Trump, and
Speaker 3: he worked for the federal government.
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't really know what to tell you.
Speaker 3: I was like, you're kind of an idiot if you
Speaker 3: didn't think that something like this was going to happen
Speaker 3: to me. He sent me a very long justification for
Speaker 3: why he did it. I actually think it bears discussion
Speaker 3: with all of us. But that's a tease for the futures.
Speaker 4: Her. Now he's still like, yeah, I did the right then, No,
Speaker 4: he does not regret it.
Speaker 1: He's voted for Trump for three times.
Speaker 3: He voted for Trump because Democrats could not define what
Speaker 3: a woman is. But he is upset about the doche
Speaker 3: cuts and in the in the logic of the email,
Speaker 3: it really hit home for me why I still think
Speaker 3: that this is very politically, very politically strong.
Speaker 1: Territory for Trump. Now how long he can ride on it.
Speaker 1: I have no idea. Right, we'll be America.
Speaker 3: They'll give you the runway, and this will you know,
Speaker 3: this will keep people feeling as if things are very different.
Speaker 3: It's still you know, only a month or so into
Speaker 3: the new administration, but how long until it gets old?
Speaker 3: And that's when I think it starts to become from And.
Speaker 6: This is what I don't think Republicans are doing this
Speaker 6: on purpose, but I do think one of the big
Speaker 6: lessons for Democrats should be that if you're asked to
Speaker 6: choose between Trump and Republicans, red meat, culture warfare and Democrats,
Speaker 6: for many voters, Republicans still come out on top, even
Speaker 6: if they don't like the way that Donald Trump talks. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 6: And so that's where I know we're going to talk
Speaker 6: about al Green. We teased it a little bit earlier
Speaker 6: and the like resist t shirt walk out the paddle
Speaker 6: signs that looked like, as some people were joking, fogo
Speaker 6: to chow can bring me my meat signs.
Speaker 4: It's yeah, it was.
Speaker 6: And so again for a lot of voters that Democrats
Speaker 6: are like, it's I get it.
Speaker 7: Like Trump.
Speaker 6: Trump went for an hour and forty minutes an extremely
Speaker 6: partisan speech and said some wild stuff and called the
Speaker 6: senator Pocahontas to her face.
Speaker 7: But then they look at the Democrats, They're like you
Speaker 7: guys deserve it.
Speaker 3: So let's start with the Al Green thing. That what
Speaker 3: is that number one? So this was the first Democratic protest.
Speaker 3: I thought there were going to be a lot more.
Speaker 3: Actually I was surprised that there won't again.
Speaker 1: A rock star. Yeah, they got to a very start
Speaker 1: and then became extremely lame.
Speaker 3: So Al Green here being escorted out of the House chamber.
Speaker 1: He was shaking, literally shaking his cane.
Speaker 3: Donald Trump, not since Charles Sumner, right right, Ryan, Not
Speaker 3: since Charles Sumner is a cane so loudly been felt
Speaker 3: on the floor of the United States Congress.
Speaker 1: Let's take a listen.
Speaker 12: Finding that members continue to engage in willful and concert
Speaker 12: the disruption or proper decorum, the Chair now directs the
Speaker 12: Sergeant at Arms to restore order, remove this gentleman from
Speaker 12: the chamber.
Speaker 1: All right, So that was Al Green, congressman getting escorted out.
Speaker 3: He said he was shouting at him he have no
Speaker 3: mandate to cut medicaid.
Speaker 1: Let's also put a number. Apparently that's what he that's
Speaker 1: what he claims kicks out.
Speaker 3: Apparently people only heard you have no mandate. Let's go
Speaker 3: to the number two. Please the screenshot. Can you guys
Speaker 3: put that up while I talk. This is the one
Speaker 3: that's going pretty viral from what people are saying, it's lame.
Speaker 3: Some of the what are the like placards being piled up, signs.
Speaker 1: Small signs, small round bingo like signs.
Speaker 3: Being held up by Democrats include musk stels, that's a lie,
Speaker 3: that's from Rashida to leave, she's a whiteboard, false false,
Speaker 3: musk steels, save medicaid, musk steels some false and that going.
Speaker 7: They should have all said save medicaid.
Speaker 3: Seriously, Yeah, I agree, I was like, save medicaid. That
Speaker 3: is probably the most powerful one. You Crystal scent to
Speaker 3: this from the Daily Show. Fun fact, Democrats are wearing
Speaker 3: pink tonight as a symbolic protest against people who want
Speaker 3: them to do something meaningful. So that's pretty damn Yeah.
Speaker 7: So personal.
Speaker 2: I mean, clearly like they are getting the message that
Speaker 2: people want them to do more, but they just have
Speaker 2: no idea what that actually looks like.
Speaker 4: I will say I thought.
Speaker 2: Rocanna and Tim Walls had a really good idea, which
Speaker 2: is all these Republicans are like, oh, we're not going
Speaker 2: to do town halls anymore, and they're like, okay, well
Speaker 2: come your district, new town. You know, that's smart, and
Speaker 2: I think we'll play really well and you know, put
Speaker 2: pressure on Republicans like, ah shit, this guy's doing a
Speaker 2: town all my district. I guess I need to show up,
Speaker 2: or at least it's sort of shameful to them to
Speaker 2: not show up. Bernie Sanders obviously, he's also I think,
Speaker 2: delivering a response along with Alyssa's luck in.
Speaker 3: Yes, she's speaking right now, she's speaking right now.
Speaker 1: I'm monitoring the quote.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the deep stat is responding Alyssa's sludge.
Speaker 3: Currently says Reagan is rolling in his grave afirmatively talking
Speaker 3: about Reagan.
Speaker 1: Let's see what else here.
Speaker 2: But I also think, you know, the Bernie Sanders oligarchy
Speaker 2: tour going to specifically swing Republican districts where you know,
Speaker 2: the Republican House they need every single vote to be
Speaker 2: able to do anything, and so he's recognized that as
Speaker 2: a pressure point. I think that's also very intelligent. But yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean these things just read is like sort of.
Speaker 5: The only indication that Democrats would be getting the message
Speaker 5: would be if they said, you know what, Bernie, you'd
Speaker 5: do the response, yes, that would at least be surprising
Speaker 5: to people.
Speaker 3: So instead they picked a CIA spook from Michigan who
Speaker 3: actually says no guardrails on what they do. We need
Speaker 3: more efficient government. You want to cut waste, I'll help
Speaker 3: you do it. But does but change doesn't need to
Speaker 3: be chaotic or make us less safe.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean she's one of the ones that she's
Speaker 2: voted for a bunch of Trump pets. She voted for
Speaker 2: the Lake and Riley act, Like you know, she's that's
Speaker 2: who she is. And it also speaks to okay, not
Speaker 2: just would it indicate they're getting it from a sort
Speaker 2: of like policy perspective if they had Bernie Sanders respond.
Speaker 4: But people would actually watch right now.
Speaker 2: Bernie is racking up there, it would go viral millions of.
Speaker 4: Views on everything he does.
Speaker 2: I mean, he is an absolute TikTok sensation, and these
Speaker 2: town halls were getting insane views like everything he says
Speaker 2: and does is going viral.
Speaker 4: So why wouldn't you be like, maybe that guy.
Speaker 2: Should be the one or row you know, or row
Speaker 2: or listen the whole thing about giving the oversight ranking
Speaker 2: Committee member to Jerry Connolly instead of AGOC, Like what
Speaker 2: are you thinking? One of these people knows how to
Speaker 2: communicate and understands the attention economy and is on it
Speaker 2: and understands the online like attention ecosystem.
Speaker 4: But the other one earned it, Crystal, and the other
Speaker 4: one he's been waiting this.
Speaker 7: You know, it's in line follow.
Speaker 4: It's just total total insanity.
Speaker 3: If the Dems get a tea party, how big was
Speaker 3: a tea party blowout in twenty ten?
Speaker 4: It was like they've picked up like sixty.
Speaker 1: Jenuine.
Speaker 4: I want to say something.
Speaker 3: If that happened to the Dems, would that happen like
Speaker 3: the Jerry Connolly stuff still happened, and would Hakeem like
Speaker 3: get to keep his seat?
Speaker 1: Ca Yeah, b.
Speaker 3: Who the Democrats if they get a Republican style tea
Speaker 3: party blowout when in the House of Representatives and Democrats,
Speaker 3: Democrats take control, definitely.
Speaker 5: I mean the Keems.
Speaker 1: So you think he'll stay even though they don't like him.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 4: It depends on.
Speaker 2: It's kind of depends on the kind of characters who win,
Speaker 2: and it depends on if that dem tea party also
Speaker 2: consists of not just winning in Republican seats but primary
Speaker 2: people that they're you.
Speaker 4: Know, disgusting.
Speaker 2: And I've mentioned this before, but I went back and
Speaker 2: looked at the Tea Party era polling for Republican base
Speaker 2: voters how they felt about Republican congressional leaders, and it
Speaker 2: is very similar to the way that Democratic voters feel
Speaker 2: right now about democratic leadership. Democratic leaders are underwater by
Speaker 2: like nine points in the last pole that we saw.
Speaker 4: This is so different from twenty sixty.
Speaker 2: You guys know poloc shift like they sell, Oh, these
Speaker 2: people are doing the thing we want.
Speaker 4: Them to do. These are our heroes, et cetera.
Speaker 2: It is not like that anymore. And so you know,
Speaker 2: if you had some of these people who have been
Speaker 2: the most disappointing getting primaried, and you have a more
Speaker 2: sort of like forceful radical group that comes in that
Speaker 2: doesn't owe their seats to the Party of Styles, then
Speaker 2: you could end up with some different dynamics. And I
Speaker 2: think the other thing that opens up that possibility is
Speaker 2: that liberals are also completely disenchanted with their media outlets,
Speaker 2: and so that creates a really different dynamic as well.
Speaker 4: So there's a lot of IFFs here about how this
Speaker 4: will all.
Speaker 2: Go down, but I will say I think the indications
Speaker 2: are very much in the direction of you're probably going
Speaker 2: to have a blowout your blue waveyear for Democrats. Just
Speaker 2: you know, if you look at history and backlash to
Speaker 2: parties that have complete power, if you look at we're
Speaker 2: so early and there's already this level of sentiment and
Speaker 2: Republicans who are hiding and worried, and Elon is just
Speaker 2: doing his thing and they're going after Social Security and
Speaker 2: the economy is on the brink. I think you could
Speaker 2: be setting up quite a catastrophe for.
Speaker 1: The work could be.
Speaker 3: I mean, it could phase out because it's he party
Speaker 3: peaked in what oh nine, right around nine months in.
Speaker 3: That's when the t That's when the Obamacare stuff was
Speaker 3: really happened, and then it is special he was right
Speaker 3: there at the tail of nine into ten and then
Speaker 3: going into the midtermine.
Speaker 7: Well, I guess.
Speaker 6: I mean I would say maybe, honestly, I would put
Speaker 6: it through the Senate the what did Obama call it
Speaker 6: the route or whatever he said in twenty four lacking, Yeah,
Speaker 6: shellacking in twenty fourteen. I would I would extend it
Speaker 6: through that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, no, no, absolutely. I was just thinking in terms
Speaker 3: of timing. So if the Democratic whatever.
Speaker 7: Coffee oh, I say, ok.
Speaker 3: The Coffee Party peaks like thirty days in because Trump
Speaker 3: administration it could still you know, it could still like
Speaker 3: it could still actually phase out, or you know, who knows.
Speaker 5: So much depends on what Trump's policies due to the economy.
Speaker 5: I think, yeah, I think you're right, because you know,
Speaker 5: he could back off. He could say no, it's just
Speaker 5: kidding on these tariffs. Federal workers are allowed back in
Speaker 5: with a federal judge, and then he could say we're
Speaker 5: going to fire them all in September, and then he
Speaker 5: doesn't actually fire them in September because things are struggling
Speaker 5: then and you get a little downturn and then it
Speaker 5: comes back up. Or you could get this full on
Speaker 5: Trump thing where he's like, no, we're really true, we're
Speaker 5: doing some major transition. Like in his speech tonight, he's
Speaker 5: alluding to real difficulties ahead.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he said to the farmers, he said, there'll be
Speaker 2: they'll be a little bit of adjustment, but we're okay
Speaker 2: with that, which you know Elon also promised like hardship,
Speaker 2: temporary hardship.
Speaker 1: He's trying to do.
Speaker 5: He's trying to do a thing that politicians have done
Speaker 5: many times over the generations, bring people together in times
Speaker 5: of hardships that we collectively can then get to a
Speaker 5: better place. Except he also wants to do it while dismissing, attacking,
Speaker 5: and calling the other half the country a bunch of
Speaker 5: traders and losers. So FDR had you know, sixty plus
Speaker 5: seats in the Senate and sixty you know, and one
Speaker 5: massive mandate, so he could say, all right.
Speaker 4: We're all doing this, we're all doing.
Speaker 5: This together, we're rowing together, and it's just the bankers
Speaker 5: that are against us. Trump's like, we're all in this together,
Speaker 5: except like half the country, the universities, the doctors.
Speaker 13: Every federal every federal someone's got to that university, all
Speaker 13: the teachers, the capitol police, like, but everyone else, Yeah,
Speaker 13: we're in it.
Speaker 4: We're in it.
Speaker 5: So I don't know how you do both of those things,
Speaker 5: because he wants to do he wants to ask for
Speaker 5: shared sacrifice without sharing any common value.
Speaker 2: We're sharing the sacrifice among people like Elon Musk who
Speaker 2: are getting you know, just after Lusk wants.
Speaker 5: To be joyful about what he's doing to people, rather
Speaker 5: than like read people in and say this is why
Speaker 5: we're doing I.
Speaker 3: Think your point though about if they back off after
Speaker 3: a catastrophic three months or not even catastrophic bad three
Speaker 3: months I.
Speaker 1: Mean that's long enough time.
Speaker 3: You know, that's almost what several months to go to
Speaker 3: the midterms, and so you could at least see some
Speaker 3: sort of change. The problem is is that right now
Speaker 3: we have no indication that that's.
Speaker 1: Going to happen.
Speaker 3: Elon's getting a shout out, the State of the Union,
Speaker 3: those is getting you know, lists getting read off. You've
Speaker 3: got the Social Security fraud thing, and we're going a
Speaker 3: whole hog on the tariff. So it's like, okay, well
Speaker 3: that that's all we can really go off right now. Yeah,
Speaker 3: tax cut, that's the thing. The tax is a separate category.
Speaker 3: That's gonna happen. That's not changing at all. Oh, I
Speaker 3: see the other stuff might change at top.
Speaker 4: Of that, likely medicaid cuts, you.
Speaker 5: Know, and in the same way that social here actually
Speaker 5: do flub some Social Security checks, like all people.
Speaker 1: Will lose it. I agree with you. Yeah, and they
Speaker 1: should lose it. That's that's that's great.
Speaker 4: They're flirting with that. I mean, you're flirting with that.
Speaker 2: They're flirting with another plane crash that really can be laid.
Speaker 1: I left that out.
Speaker 3: You're exactly right, which is that if there's a major
Speaker 3: natural disaster, if there's a major hurricane after they've been
Speaker 3: cutting all these Noah things, and where they can't properly
Speaker 3: call a category four or a category five, and some.
Speaker 1: People, even if it's not their fault, doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: Where they've gutted FEMA and they can't properly respond to
Speaker 2: which you know, responding to a natural disaster even with
Speaker 2: the best of government funding levels is difficult.
Speaker 4: You've got a potential shutdown coming up.
Speaker 2: I mean, there's just there's just disaster around every corner
Speaker 2: and an economy that's already starting to turn south. So
Speaker 2: I think, you know, it would take a lot at
Speaker 2: this point to recover from the trajectory that they've already
Speaker 2: set things on, and you know, to see Elon there.
Speaker 4: It's just this is the part that I.
Speaker 2: Could not have predicted, is how much of the presidency
Speaker 2: he would see to Elon like I just could not
Speaker 2: have seen that, nobody would have.
Speaker 3: And the thing is is it goes against everything that
Speaker 3: we know about Donald exactly. Why would he ever see
Speaker 3: I still don't understand it. Why would you ever seed
Speaker 3: so much? Could not control? What does Trump care about?
Speaker 3: Attention media? Every probably American at this point who's even
Speaker 3: tangentially aware of the Trump News could.
Speaker 1: Tell you about Elon could be a good thing, could
Speaker 1: be a bad thing. Why would you want that? Why
Speaker 1: would you want your presidency defined?
Speaker 3: Find this guy with fifteen kids and all this other
Speaker 3: baggage and weird shit that he does all the time.
Speaker 6: He's really tied his brand literally one of the most
Speaker 6: eccentric and polarizing people in the world, right and he
Speaker 6: could be having he could actually be having roughs vote
Speaker 6: like out there doing doge, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: And it would it would not even be a headline.
Speaker 3: It would it would be first of all, we were
Speaker 3: done properly. Second of all, it would be done or
Speaker 3: verse like legally or you know, in terms of it
Speaker 3: would be it would be much more within the line
Speaker 3: of like traditional Washington process and they could fight it
Speaker 3: out and in the institutions and the norms like and
Speaker 3: I mean it seems to be. That seems why Vivek
Speaker 3: ultimately left Dose was really over a beef on something
Speaker 3: like this his white people tweet acide. But yeah, just
Speaker 3: putting it together, I mean, that's just the most shocking
Speaker 3: part about all of this is like he's playing the
Speaker 3: fire and I think that's the theme that I've I've
Speaker 3: really come away from this state of the Union. I
Speaker 3: think there was a ton of raid meat. If your maga,
Speaker 3: you'll love it. And of course you you're gonna love
Speaker 3: You're gonna love anything. The guy says, there's lots of
Speaker 3: culture war stuff and all that. But you know, for
Speaker 3: for us, like when we look at the dangers of
Speaker 3: natural disaster, social security, economic problems, and then just you know,
Speaker 3: chaotic nature, people feeling as if they are not in control,
Speaker 3: those are all very very dangerous places.
Speaker 2: I also, I also think that the amount of gutting
Speaker 2: of like white color police that they've done is a risk,
Speaker 2: is like gutting the CFPP and gutting the SEC enforcement.
Speaker 2: I mean, you've just got such like out right crop.
Speaker 2: You guys see the story about people paying a million
Speaker 2: or five million dollars to.
Speaker 3: Have five five million, five million dollars to have a
Speaker 3: one on one dinner.
Speaker 4: With which Trump, Yeah, like.
Speaker 1: Just he doesn't even need the money.
Speaker 7: It's it's for campaign, the coin, it's it's.
Speaker 1: It's to a campaign fund. And why do you need
Speaker 1: five million dollars for your campaign?
Speaker 2: I mean, you've got that, You've got the crypto dude
Speaker 2: who gave him, you know, seventy five million dollars into
Speaker 2: his mean coin, and then oh SEC dropped enforcement. And
Speaker 2: so when you put all of these together, it's like
Speaker 2: this is just like Elon and his billionaire buddies, like
Speaker 2: they're just robbing and plundering the government.
Speaker 4: I mean, the picture adds up. It's it does.
Speaker 2: Doesn't take a genius political messenger, even this lame ass
Speaker 2: Democratic Party can put those pieces together to say like
Speaker 2: this administration is about the rich. And but you know,
Speaker 2: to go back to the Trump and Elon point, like
Speaker 2: even just to see the spotlight of his State of
Speaker 2: the Union address for standing ovation to Elon, I don't
Speaker 2: think any of us could have anticipated that. And it
Speaker 2: really does ask some questions about like, what the hell
Speaker 2: is going on here? Does he care? Is there some
Speaker 2: sort of a deal? What has made it so that
Speaker 2: he is just really ceeded his previous ideological positioning to
Speaker 2: Elon and the most prominent, most public parts of his
Speaker 2: entire government administration to Elon. And you're to your point
Speaker 2: about immigration, like I'm glad he's not making good on
Speaker 2: this particular promises nice the same as job but are
Speaker 2: actually lower than Joe Biden and that was the part
Speaker 2: that you know, in terms of one of the promises
Speaker 2: to work in class people again, and I don't this
Speaker 2: isn't accurate in my view, and I don't think that
Speaker 2: a mass deportation would help. I think that would further
Speaker 2: hurt the economy. But that was like the prep pledge
Speaker 2: to working class people was that this is.
Speaker 4: The thing that's really going to help you.
Speaker 2: And because it's not a priority of Elon, it's the
Speaker 2: part that's actually not really getting done again. I'm glad
Speaker 2: about that, but it is noteworthy to me that the
Speaker 2: part that has been so central to Trump but is
Speaker 2: not really particularly priority to Elon outside of him currying
Speaker 2: favor with MAGA, that part has kind of fallen, by.
Speaker 3: The way, right on top of the Golden visa thing,
Speaker 3: which is like a Silicon Valley wet dream where they
Speaker 3: get to just buy their citizenship in.
Speaker 4: H one B, which he sided with Elon or.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he even mentioned that in this he's actually
Speaker 3: trying to fuse Golden Visa with He's trying to.
Speaker 1: Fuse Golden visa with the H one B program. If
Speaker 1: you heard there, it's like at any of these.
Speaker 3: Universities, Facebook can pay five million dollars.
Speaker 1: So yeah, Facebook gonna pay five million dollars for a coder. Okay,
Speaker 1: well the whole point the h one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like, yeah, that's like that made you think me.
Speaker 3: All right, we've been talking for long enough. You guys
Speaker 3: got any last things he wants to say?
Speaker 6: Actually, all I was going to say is and Democrats
Speaker 6: were sitting there with their stupid paddle signs, and so,
Speaker 6: I mean, I don't disagree with everything that we've all said.
Speaker 6: I just think the big takeaway, to the extent that
Speaker 6: Americans pay attention to this, I think Donald Trump successfully
Speaker 6: baited Democrats into a complete public relations disaster for themselves.
Speaker 1: Yea, I wouldn't say it's a disaster. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think I disagree on that.
Speaker 7: Cool Wallas is already saying that little kid DJ.
Speaker 6: It was like the highlight human Republicans, Democrats all find
Speaker 6: a good human story in every state of the Union.
Speaker 7: This was the one from that. He's already saying.
Speaker 6: Nicole Wallace, she's already out on the MSNBC airway of saying,
Speaker 6: I hope he has a long life as a law
Speaker 6: enforcement officer, but I hope he never has to defend
Speaker 6: the United States Capitol against Donald Trump supporters, and if
Speaker 6: he does, I hope he has one of the sex
Speaker 6: who loses his life to suicide.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I just you know, it's like, I don't disagree that
Speaker 3: it's cringed, but I wouldn't call it a relations.
Speaker 2: They're not I mean, their memes are, They're not the
Speaker 2: center of the evening.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think. I don't know.
Speaker 6: I think it was so bad that those I think
Speaker 6: those I think those optics were so bad with them
Speaker 6: with the paddle signs, they're just like perfect meme fodder.
Speaker 7: I think that was so so bad. That idea was
Speaker 7: so bad.
Speaker 1: I don't know, Al Green waving the.
Speaker 6: Cane and the paddle signs. I think it was so
Speaker 6: bad that it will a lot of people will see that.
Speaker 1: I think you could be right. I see a lot
Speaker 1: of right wing like, oh, they didn't even clap for this.
Speaker 1: Is that's people really like? And also it was one
Speaker 1: hundred minute speech. It is long. Yeah, I don't think anything.
Speaker 2: Here's one other thing that I that I would point to,
Speaker 2: Emily is I was looking at the some of the
Speaker 2: pulling around this and the approval rating of like Democrats
Speaker 2: and the Democratic Party and Congressional Democrats is in the tank. Yes,
Speaker 2: And yet when you ask people who do you prefer
Speaker 2: on a generic congresstional ballot Democrats, I'm the latest one
Speaker 2: was by five, which is significant. Yeah, which is going
Speaker 2: to I mean, listen, you take them with a gardenissal whatever.
Speaker 4: But you shouldn't look.
Speaker 2: At the fact that their approval, Like when people are
Speaker 2: like do you like these people are like no, but
Speaker 2: you like them better than these other people? They are
Speaker 2: like yeah, kind you know, because and that's that is
Speaker 2: a natural ebb and flow to politics. But also Republicans
Speaker 2: are truly enacting an agenda, and Trump in particular that
Speaker 2: is polls that is really unpopular. I mean, the Greenland
Speaker 2: stuff is unpopular, Gaza is unpopular. The even the Gulf
Speaker 2: of America thing, which I thought people might eat up,
Speaker 2: even that's unpopular, right, a lot of these pieces, and
Speaker 2: Doge is unpopular, and Elon's unpopular, and cutting social security
Speaker 2: and cutting medicaid and getting taxes were like, all of
Speaker 2: these things are really really unpopular. And so when you
Speaker 2: put that together and it's like, hey, do you want.
Speaker 4: Maybe a check on that? Even if these people are
Speaker 4: kind of lame.
Speaker 2: They're like, yeah, probably not to mention, Democrats have the
Speaker 2: benefit now of the co that previously used to benefit
Speaker 2: Republicans and mintterms, which is their people freaking show up.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's true the midterm election.
Speaker 4: That matters a lot.
Speaker 2: So that's why I listen luck and at between now
Speaker 2: and blah blah blah, caveats, et cetera. But I would
Speaker 2: I think we're probably headed in the direction of a
Speaker 2: major political direction, even if the Democrats trying to.
Speaker 5: Be freaking Like, if Trump does blow things up, then
Speaker 5: people remember, oh yeah, they shook the cane at them.
Speaker 2: They didn't like what they were right about with those paddles.
Speaker 4: They were right, they were dated.
Speaker 6: I generally think that says don't make a big difference.
Speaker 1: I shouldn't don't.
Speaker 6: I shouldn't preface it with that anyway, in terms of
Speaker 6: like electoral outcomes, they don't.
Speaker 3: Although again I don't know why people love the State
Speaker 3: of the Union like people watch it. It's always the
Speaker 3: only political event in the top one hundred newscat or
Speaker 3: broadcast in the argophy.
Speaker 4: Really honestly, it's born.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, people people like us who watched public like
Speaker 3: the debates are way more important, you know, stuff like that,
Speaker 3: the debate fun.
Speaker 4: There's even just a regular old Trump presser.
Speaker 1: Like a lot more Oh yeah, there's way more ship.
Speaker 4: A lot more ris actually going to happen.
Speaker 5: People like the show, So what ation for this being
Speaker 5: a country rights aspiration?
Speaker 4: This being a real country like this is serious? Tune
Speaker 4: in and here we are.
Speaker 1: I should take my scolding away. Everyone should keep.
Speaker 3: Watching if nonetheless, just because we always covered it is
Speaker 3: a fun It's a fun thing that.
Speaker 1: We enjoy doing here. It's an annual tradition.
Speaker 3: Ryan and I will be doing a special show for
Speaker 3: everybody tomorrow that will be dropping somewhere around midday, and
Speaker 3: then Crystal I will be back for a normal show
Speaker 3: on Thursday, so we will see you guys.
Speaker 1: We're also going to have.
Speaker 5: By the way, Adam ham away very briefly. He was
Speaker 5: Bonnie Watson Coleman's guest at the State of the Union.
Speaker 1: She'll join as well. She's a Democrat for New Jersey.
Speaker 5: He's the doctor who who saved Tammy Duckworth's life and.
Speaker 1: Was stuck in Gaza.
Speaker 5: So he was in the audience. I'll see what he
Speaker 5: see what he thought about that awesome before where you
Speaker 5: get on.
Speaker 2: A lot on the Middle East, looking forward to it
Speaker 2: really yeah zero.
Speaker 1: Just the hostage was.
Speaker 4: That he's tirelessly working.
Speaker 3: Yeah, working, tireless working, tires working tirelessly. We need to
Speaker 3: retire that one from one all right, We'll see you
Speaker 3: guys later