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According to 16 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:43,480 Speaker 3: our research, if it was a State of the Union, 17 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 3: which can we all agree to it. 18 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 1: Is, it would be the longest State of the Union. 19 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:51,599 Speaker 3: Ever delivered by an American president, beating significantly President Clinton's 20 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 3: record in the year of two thousand, which was an 21 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 3: hour and twenty eight minutes. This one, by my rough 22 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 3: back of the Napkin math, is roughly around an hour 23 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 3: and forty three And yeah, it was long. 24 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 1: It was long. 25 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:04,479 Speaker 4: Could have used an edit. 26 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: Could have used a few more kind of reminded. 27 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 3: Remember, God, I'm trying to think of the first one 28 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 3: of the first ones we covered here where Biden was 29 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:14,399 Speaker 3: just like literally a laundry list. 30 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 1: I think we were all watching. 31 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:16,479 Speaker 4: It's very common. 32 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 1: It's very common. 33 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 2: I mean, let's not constituencies, they got to check the 34 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 2: box on whatever. 35 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 4: But yeah, it needed a good edit. 36 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:23,759 Speaker 1: It was long. 37 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 3: It was long, and so that's we're trying to call 38 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 3: some of the best takeaways for all of you. 39 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 1: I would say the biggest one was no new. 40 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 3: Policy announcement on Ukraine, but there were some significant domestic 41 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 3: policy events that are that definitely bear registration. But the 42 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 3: thing is is that we should probably start with the 43 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 3: Democratic protest by Congressman Al Green, who opened the remarks. 44 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 3: There was some initial booing that was happening from the 45 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 3: Democratic side. Congressman Green was standing for the duration of 46 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 3: the first couple of minutes before he was kicked out. 47 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 3: Anyone want to saying anything before we before. 48 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 2: We make people subject people to more clips from this 49 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 2: very long we just it just gets on top of 50 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 2: the like sure top of mind thoughts. I mean to me, 51 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 2: the big takeaways were the actually lack of new policy 52 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:18,959 Speaker 2: specifics with regard to tariffs in Ukraine in particular, where 53 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:21,360 Speaker 2: I think, you know, that's certainly where we perked up 54 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 2: and we're listening like, is you going to. 55 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 4: Say, are the terriffs on? Are the tariffs off? 56 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 2: Still don't know, which I think probably indicates that the 57 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 2: signaling that they might be rolled back could be the case, 58 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 2: because he certainly wasn't touting the Canada in Mexico twenty 59 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 2: five percent across the board. He was focusing on, Oh 60 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 2: we did this with China with steel. Oh we're looking 61 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:46,239 Speaker 2: we're doing these reciprocal tariffs April, second, April, second down 62 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 2: the road. He mentioned Canada and Mexico, but he did 63 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 2: not specifically tout the terrorifts that just went into effect, 64 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 2: which you know, if I'm reading in between the lines, 65 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 2: I feel like, Okay, well, that's probably an indication that 66 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 2: it is Lutnik was right. They are probably rolling back 67 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 2: or diminished to something. 68 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 4: Ukraine. I kind of feel the same way. 69 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:07,639 Speaker 2: You know, he talked about the letter that he got 70 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:10,640 Speaker 2: from Zelensky that we talked about earlier that is already public. 71 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 2: He talked about the desire to make a deal, and 72 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 2: you know, moving forward, So I think probably the reporting 73 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 2: about them continuing to work on this rare semnial deal 74 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 2: is also probably let's too accurate. I mean, it seems 75 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 2: like based on what he's saying, but he did not 76 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 2: confirm any of those pieces. 77 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, it is actually kind of surprising that there was 78 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 3: no new major initiative either on the tariffs on Ukraine, 79 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 3: especially because they were hyping that from news level. A 80 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 3: lot of the speech was basically messaging, So I was 81 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 3: clocking the time, so statistically most people turn off around 82 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 3: ten pm. Just they watched the first like thirty to 83 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 3: forty five minutes. Yeah, the first thirty forty five minutes. 84 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 3: So this is basically just a campaign speech. It was 85 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 3: like we won the election, historic landslide mandate. That's with 86 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 3: the Algreen protests and all of that happened. There was 87 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 3: a lot of culture war stuff there during that time period, 88 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 3: a lot of DEI trans CRT basically all the greatest 89 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 3: hits uh from Trump. We eventually then started to get 90 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 3: to the economy, doge and social security, and we're going 91 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 3: to play some of that for you, But any other thoughts. 92 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 1: One of you guys gives your Mirror summary too before 93 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 1: we play, at least on the tariffs. 94 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 5: On the tariffs front, at least he described why he 95 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 5: was going to do them, Like with with the Canada 96 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 5: and Mexico ones. He's just been telling us they've been 97 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 5: ripping us off and we subsidized Canada. And that's quite 98 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 5: light on those though. He went back to the old school. 99 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 5: We're going to if you're not a if you don't 100 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:32,160 Speaker 5: have steel, you don't have a country. We're going to 101 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 5: make steel, right, and so we're going to do these 102 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 5: targeted tariffs on steel and like aluminum, like so at 103 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:42,359 Speaker 5: least like there was some like ethos behind it, like 104 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:45,600 Speaker 5: back to the Oh, that's that's the thing about tariffs. 105 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 5: You're trying to actually build up industry inside the country 106 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 5: rather than we've been suffering through this like fiction about 107 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 5: these these tariffs being fentanyl related. 108 00:04:57,000 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 2: I mean, heyl there too, the minuscules. 109 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 1: I can either agree with it or disagree with it. 110 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 4: That's you know. 111 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 6: I think we've spent almost a decade now always potentially 112 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 6: anticipating I don't mean we so much, I mean the 113 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 6: media more broadly, some new version of Donald Trump, like 114 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 6: he doesn't have to run for re election now. He 115 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 6: felt like he was coasting on these high approval ratings 116 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 6: as his administration started. 117 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 7: He's got Elon Musk by his side. 118 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:37,719 Speaker 6: And what he did was give a very like classic Trump, rambling, riffing, 119 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 6: very partisan. He ribbed Pocahontas in front of her face 120 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 6: like Elizabeth Warren. He called her Pocahontas during this media. 121 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:49,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, what she must have done something something about the war, 122 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 3: like hold something up, Like I'm saying. 123 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:53,359 Speaker 1: What was this? 124 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 2: The only I saw her like scrolling on her phone 125 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:58,479 Speaker 2: at one point. But I didn't even make her like 126 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 2: participating in the protest whatever. But I mean, I don't 127 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:02,719 Speaker 2: know that she necessarily had to do it. He just 128 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:04,839 Speaker 2: has like animistic He just you know, whatever. 129 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 7: It's a thing he doesn't changed, I think change on. 130 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 4: Yes and no. 131 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 2: The style of the speech, yes, typical Trump, you know, 132 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 2: going through his greatest hits in terms of his grand 133 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:19,160 Speaker 2: election victory, and you know, calling Democrats out to their 134 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 2: fail like you would never clap for me, no matter what, 135 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:22,720 Speaker 2: you know, putting them on. 136 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 1: Flats like that. 137 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 2: It's so said, no mater, how I did what I did, 138 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 2: it wouldn't be enough for you people. And then you know, 139 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 2: at the end of course, he's got to. He goes 140 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 2: back to retell the story of the assassination attempt and 141 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 2: how he was saved by God to save the country, 142 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 2: which makes me very uncomfortable when people start putting themselves 143 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 2: in those sort of messianic terms. 144 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:44,039 Speaker 4: But you know, again classic Trump up. 145 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 2: But you know, on the like on the economic policy front, 146 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:51,480 Speaker 2: as I'm just listening to the actual policies, like this 147 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 2: is a freaking Paul Ryan speech, Like we're talking about deregulation, 148 00:06:55,880 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 2: we're talking about social security, we're talking about tax cuts. 149 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 2: I mean, it was very I was like, this is 150 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:06,239 Speaker 2: a coke network policy agenda. 151 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: You have a with tariffs? 152 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 2: He did, Yeah, that got but again that he's like, 153 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 2: I mean, we're not even clear on what that is. 154 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 2: But the piece that he frontloaded with was all the 155 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 2: just like standard conventional Republican stuff that he ran so 156 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 2: hard against and positioned himself so hard against back in 157 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 2: twenty fifteen. Now we all know the record of the 158 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 2: actual Trump administration the first time around, where their biggest 159 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 2: accomplishment was a giant tax cut for the rich. 160 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 4: But to me, that combined with he. 161 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 2: Was you know, trying to get applause lines on oh 162 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 2: we're going to get rid of the budget deficit, and 163 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 2: then reading down the list of all the wasteful government 164 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 2: programs like the transgender mice, you know, all of those things, 165 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 2: like that's Fox. I used to do a lot of 166 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 2: Fox News hits back in the you know, post to. 167 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 4: Like twenty eleven time frame. 168 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 7: That was the spot. 169 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 4: And yeah, it was every day. 170 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 2: It was like, oh my god, they spent ten dollars 171 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 2: per month in at this conference. 172 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 1: Or they're always very love it was all. 173 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 2: And so I'm like, oh, this is such a throwback 174 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 2: to the Paul Ryan talking points, just delivered through a 175 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 2: Trump you know Trumpian pinas. 176 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 5: All that chaos and all we get is like different 177 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 5: lies about social security. 178 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's out. 179 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 5: There saying that like one hundred and sixty year olds 180 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 5: are getting solid security. 181 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 2: And it's like even Fox News actually debunks that talking. 182 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 1: Okay, let's say let's say that commentary. So do you 183 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 1: want to just do the social skillity, Go. 184 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 2: Ahead and cueue up social security. Let me see what 185 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 2: number number five? Number five guys, if you can cueue 186 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 2: this up where he starts talking about social security and 187 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:45,679 Speaker 2: he's reiterating the lies that Elon spread about the you know, 188 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 2: people who are supposedly three hundred years old or whatever 189 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 2: and still getting so scary. We know none of this 190 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 2: is true, but it doesn't matter. It's still in the 191 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:53,959 Speaker 2: present speech. If we've got that, let's go ahead and 192 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 2: roll it. 193 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 8: We're also identifying shocking levels of incompetence and probable fraud 194 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 8: in the Social Security program for our seniors, and that 195 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 8: areur seniors and people that we love rely on. Believe 196 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 8: it or not, Government databases list four point seven million 197 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 8: Social Security members from people aged one hundred to one 198 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 8: hundred nine years old. 199 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:25,440 Speaker 2: I mean, make no mistake when you're setting up. And 200 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 2: this is why it was significant. 201 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 4: That Trump brought it up. 202 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 2: When you were bringing this up, you were creating a 203 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 2: pretext to cut the program, and again totally counter to 204 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 2: the way Trump has always positioned himself. And he'll use this, 205 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 2: these lies about alleged fraud to justify the cuts. And 206 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 2: we already see, you know, dogs gutting the Social Security 207 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:47,839 Speaker 2: administration is actually a warning from Martin Malley, who was 208 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 2: previously Social Security Administrator, that it cannot the system cannot 209 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 2: handle that level of cuts, and that people should start 210 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 2: saving their money in anticipation that the program could face 211 00:09:58,280 --> 00:09:59,559 Speaker 2: disruption just from not. 212 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 4: Having a enough staff the hotline. 213 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 2: You know, people who answer the hotlines are being cut 214 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 2: offices across the country are being cut. So to me, 215 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:11,319 Speaker 2: when the word social security came out of his mouth 216 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 2: in the context of like, oh, there's all this giant 217 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 2: fraud et cetera, et cetera, that is a huge indication 218 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 2: of direction. 219 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 3: That was the most important political moment of the speech 220 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 3: to me. I think I said that to you guys 221 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 3: at the time. I was like, that is very important. 222 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:28,679 Speaker 3: Not only is it Donald Trump endorsing the elon strategy 223 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 3: around that, but he's taking ownership of what is very 224 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 3: likely to be extremely unpopular. And this gets to the 225 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:38,199 Speaker 3: way that this will all happen. So it's very unlikely 226 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 3: to see a top line across the board cut of 227 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 3: Social Security right pass by the Congress and the next 228 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:47,440 Speaker 3: tax bill, even in terms of entitlement reform or whatever. 229 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 3: But there may be at least elements to chip away 230 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 3: at the program or at the very least like reduced 231 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 3: successibility now currently regardless, I mean, you've got your hand 232 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 3: basically right there on the rail the most potent political weapon. 233 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 3: I mean, I remember being with the four of you 234 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 3: guys talking when Biden had that problem where he's like hey, 235 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 3: He's like, okay, we're all agreeing, we're not going to 236 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 3: cut Social Security. So the problem that they have is 237 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:15,559 Speaker 3: even if they pursue no cuts, is that even tampering 238 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 3: with the program is going to have tremendous blowback from 239 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 3: a lot of people. But last thing on this, they 240 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:22,320 Speaker 3: may be able to get around it because they also 241 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 3: said during the speech the no tax on Social Security, 242 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 3: which we all won't know, will be extremely popular with 243 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 3: a lot of seniors. I mean how much I'm thinking 244 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 3: if you're one hundred percent reliant on Social Security, like 245 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 3: that's what probably what almost ten fifteen to twenty five 246 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 3: percent of your income that's going back to tax. I've 247 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 3: said before, I think it's crazy, Like why does the 248 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 3: government give you money if just to take it back? 249 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 3: It actually is very inefficient. 250 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 5: The Reagan Compromise brought that in, which is what to 251 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 5: have income tax on social It didn't used to be taxed. 252 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, it makes no sense. 253 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 3: It's like, why would you give you a lump sum 254 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 3: of money and then take a portion of it back 255 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 3: and expect you to file it and then we'll take 256 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 3: it back forty five days later. 257 00:11:58,200 --> 00:11:59,080 Speaker 1: It's ridiculous. 258 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 6: If there's only one interesting thing other than everything you 259 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 6: guys have said that I noticed on this point is 260 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:05,959 Speaker 6: his line about social security as he started this conversation. 261 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 6: He is slightly new framing from the old Republican talking point. 262 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:13,560 Speaker 6: He says, we are also identifying shocking levels of incompetence 263 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 6: and probable fraud in the social security program our seniors 264 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 6: rely on, which is interesting because Republicans used to just 265 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 6: demonize social Security, and in this he's trying to frame 266 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 6: it as saying, I'm saving our seniors from the fraud 267 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 6: that is dragging down social security. To Ryan's point about 268 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 6: you're just dressing up the same old talking points about 269 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:38,559 Speaker 6: social security in different language, that's basically the best example 270 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 6: of it. He's saying, we're doing all of this tea 271 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 6: party talking points or all this tea party rhetoric if 272 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 6: you tweak it to say we're doing this to save 273 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 6: the program. 274 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 5: Paul Ryan two was saying he was going to save 275 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 5: social security. Yes, by privatizy. 276 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 1: He was like, We're going to raise a retirement agent. 277 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 2: But the idea the way it's always framed, Oh my god, 278 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 2: this is going that I care so much about is 279 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 2: going bankrupt and we have to save it. 280 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 4: Like that's the way it's always Frank trying to. 281 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 5: End since the nineteen thirties, Right, we really loved so much. 282 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 2: But we're just really interested in the best interest of 283 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 2: this program. That's what these cuts are all about. So, 284 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 2: but it is a little bit of a twist. 285 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 4: On that, but it's not that far from the way 286 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 4: that it was portrayed in the Paul Ryan era. 287 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 7: But it's not. 288 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that's the thing, Like overall, it did 289 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 6: sound like twenty twelve. 290 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Look so at this point, anyone who's surprised 291 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 3: by that, Like, I don't know what it was Like 292 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 3: we had him for whole first time, didn't we Like 293 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 3: where all of this went through. 294 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 1: He said he won't touch security, Medicare. He probably won't 295 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:40,200 Speaker 1: at the top. 296 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:42,079 Speaker 3: Line in the way that Paul Ryan and all those 297 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 3: other folks will this chipping away and all of that, 298 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:48,680 Speaker 3: Like I don't, I don't. I'm not yet sure how 299 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 3: far they're going to go or if they're really that stupid, 300 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 3: Like are you really so stupid that you would actually 301 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 3: acts what's seventy five percent of the SSA offices or 302 00:13:57,960 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 3: privatize it or whatever. 303 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 1: It's like, good luck. See how it happened to George W. 304 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 6: Bush in a project two thousand and five, a project 305 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 6: led by two billionaires. 306 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. 307 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 3: I mean the optive optics of it would be insane, 308 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 3: especially if it happened at the very same time that 309 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 3: you passed a massive tax cut and extension for the rich, which. 310 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 1: They are all on record they're going to do it, Like. 311 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 3: The only question is if they also include the no 312 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 3: tax on tips. I will say I do think that 313 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 3: the tips and social security thing could potentially I wouldn't 314 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 3: say it saved them, but make it more of a 315 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 3: wash than the last time. Twenty seventeen was just so 316 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 3: naked in terms of what the actual policy was. But 317 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 3: the tips thing, I mean, we all know it's gonna 318 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 3: be very popular and they're going to message the hell 319 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 3: out of it. And same with the no tax on 320 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 3: social security. I could see that being like some sort 321 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 3: of counter valance and all that. But I mean, look, they're. 322 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 1: Playing with fire. They're playing with the same fire they're 323 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 1: playing with under Rick Scott. Like it just never ends. 324 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 1: I don't know why. 325 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 2: There's also no guarantees that those policies make it in. 326 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 2: I mean, it's not spell down in the Republican budget 327 00:14:57,280 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 2: and actually. 328 00:14:57,840 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 1: The yeah, they don't want to do it. 329 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 2: The numbers as they exist, you know, and what they 330 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 2: have said that they're working with in terms of the 331 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 2: amount that they've allocated for tax cuts would not be 332 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 2: sufficient to include no tax on tips and no tax 333 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 2: on we know, the four trillion dollar tax cut, like 334 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 2: that part is locked in the rest of it. And 335 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 2: then you also have to throw in there the salt 336 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 2: tax situation. 337 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, they got to go to twenty percent. 338 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 2: For them as well, and that's yeah, that's expensive. So 339 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 2: there's also just like no guarantee that any of that 340 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 2: actually happens. And like I said, it was not actually 341 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 2: in the Republican budget that passed the House that Trump 342 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 2: had backed. 343 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 3: The ideal is we all just stop all this fakery 344 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 3: on the debt and we just include all those things. 345 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 3: You know. It's like can actually put some of the 346 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 3: good stuff in there at the very least. So we 347 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 3: talked about social security, we should definitely talk about doze. 348 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, so we've got number four guys, if you could 349 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 1: queue that up. 350 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 3: So Elon got a huge shout out from Donald Trump. 351 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 3: Donald Trump may have slipped up a little bit here, though, 352 00:15:57,160 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 3: because in this acknowledgment he not only acknowledges Elon, he 353 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 3: actually says Elon is the head of Doze, which is 354 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 3: the opposite of what his government is currently arguing in court. 355 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 3: But nonetheless it was important because. 356 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 4: Amy there to get her round of apply America. 357 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 1: She's in South America. 358 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 4: She's the one that playing. 359 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 3: She's a She's a three hundred and twenty six year 360 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 3: old woman in South America. 361 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 1: Uh so Elon got a shout out. 362 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 3: This was important just for I mean, look like Maga 363 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 3: is now like equals Elon. And you really see this 364 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 3: where Trump acknowledges him, he gets the entire Republican Party. 365 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 1: The optics of this are. 366 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 3: Wild who are on the floor of the House of 367 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 3: Representatives to look up and to clap at Elon. 368 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 1: As Elon stands. He did wear a suit. 369 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 3: Though, so apparently the guy does O one number four guys, 370 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 3: let's take a lesson, and. 371 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 8: To that end, I have created the brand new Department 372 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 8: of Government Efficiency Go perhaps you've. 373 00:16:55,760 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 9: Heard of it, which is headed by Elon Musk, who's 374 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 9: in the gallery tonight. 375 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 3: So there you go not only huge Elon shout out, 376 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 3: but then you know, subsequently talking about there was a 377 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 3: good I would say, what do you guys think like 378 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:26,119 Speaker 3: five to seven. 379 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:27,880 Speaker 1: Minute period of just listing dose stuff. 380 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 3: That's where the transmis thing comes from. So that I 381 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:35,120 Speaker 3: thought was pretty important just in terms of not only 382 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:38,639 Speaker 3: not backing away from Doge openly endorsing it, making Elon 383 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 3: a central part of the state of the Union talking 384 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:44,879 Speaker 3: here about the social security So on the economic front, 385 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 3: this is the one where they they don't yet seem 386 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:51,920 Speaker 3: to sense what they perceive, that they perceive any danger. 387 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 3: I think the only sign of it maybe is on 388 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 3: the egg price line that he did deliver. 389 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's all I really saw, how he kind of 390 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 2: opened the economic piece. But yeah, I was just trying 391 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:04,640 Speaker 2: to look back up the tweet. But Portnoy had tweeted 392 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 2: something about like Trump had a line that was, you know, 393 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 2: will no longer be ruled. 394 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:10,360 Speaker 4: By unelected bureaucrats? 395 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 2: And port Nooy right, really was like, well, that's kind 396 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 2: of a tough thing to make really, and Elon is 397 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 2: out there running the entire government as co president, so 398 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 2: that is ruled by unelected bureaucrats. 399 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, why Dave's Matt is because there's a crypto recession 400 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:27,160 Speaker 3: right now and he's got shit coins, so he still 401 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:27,879 Speaker 3: needs to sell to that. 402 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 4: He's working through. 403 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 2: He's working through some things, but still interesting to see 404 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 2: the Portnoy response there. I mean, listen, it's this is 405 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 2: the most significant difference between Trump two point zero and 406 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:42,439 Speaker 2: Trump one point zero is elon And you know, you 407 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:45,399 Speaker 2: see it in the way that Trump has shifted his ideology. 408 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 4: I mean always some. 409 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:50,400 Speaker 2: Of his populist rhetoric and approach was fakery, given the 410 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 2: commitment to tax cuts for the rich. 411 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 4: But the austerity. 412 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:57,119 Speaker 2: Framing, like spending all of these minutes going through these 413 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:00,159 Speaker 2: quote unquote wasteful programs which they frame us fraud and 414 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:02,479 Speaker 2: that always irritates me because it's really just like spending 415 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 2: that you don't like. Ryan grim here is the one 416 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:07,920 Speaker 2: who has found the most fraud than anyone. 417 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 1: I did not get credit from the podium was outrageous. 418 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:14,479 Speaker 1: I gave you credit. Were Trump right? 419 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:17,439 Speaker 4: They're the ones that found the four hundred million dollars the. 420 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 2: Armored Tesla thing that actually was It looks like they 421 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 2: like cook the books to be like, oh, we could 422 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 2: slip this in and no one will notice wrong, Ryan 423 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 2: Grim will notice. So I think Jeremy Scahill called it 424 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 2: the Department of Grim Efficiency. 425 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 1: That's pretty good. 426 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:33,360 Speaker 4: I like it. 427 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:37,920 Speaker 3: That's a dosee I could get behind. 428 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 5: Had four hundred million dollars armored Tesla's who needs an 429 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 5: armored tesla? 430 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 1: Losing action? 431 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 2: You could have set electric vehicles and then it would 432 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:51,879 Speaker 2: be like, you know, very lip coded, get. 433 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 3: Away with it, all right, We have the egg price, 434 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 3: guys number three, can you queue that up? 435 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 1: So this was an important line for Trump. 436 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:00,399 Speaker 3: It's kind of how it began the Economics Action, but 437 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 3: it was an acknowledgment of being elected with a mandate 438 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:06,680 Speaker 3: on inflation and trying. 439 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 1: To address it. 440 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 3: So let's go ahead and put it up there on 441 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 3: the screen and play it for everyone, just to give 442 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:11,440 Speaker 3: everyone a taste. 443 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 10: Joe Biden especially, let the price of eggs get out 444 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 10: of control. The egg price is out of control, and 445 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:24,119 Speaker 10: we're working hard to get it back down. 446 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:27,239 Speaker 8: Secretary, do a good job on that. You inherited a 447 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:29,680 Speaker 8: total mess from the previous administration. 448 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:39,199 Speaker 1: Do a good job, all right. 449 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 3: So you can also see some of the Democrats that 450 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:43,919 Speaker 3: were leaving there with the resist t shirts that were on. 451 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 4: I think that was. I think that was Jasmine Crockett. 452 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:47,879 Speaker 1: Yes, it was. Do we want to clount on some 453 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 1: of the Democrats? What do you think, Well, me, let. 454 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 4: Me climb on the egg thing. 455 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 2: Well, it's just, I mean, hard to really make this 456 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 2: case on a day when you announced twenty five percent 457 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 2: across the board terrace Canada and Mexico. And he has 458 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 2: said that he does not really think that inflation is 459 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:09,119 Speaker 2: the reason that people voted for him, and that has 460 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:12,639 Speaker 2: certainly been reflective in the lack of any sort of 461 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:16,199 Speaker 2: an approach to dealing with inflation. And so to me, 462 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 2: it was really noteworthy that this was kind of the 463 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 2: first he did a bunch of culture war stuff and 464 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 2: a lot of like patting himself on the back for 465 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 2: an election victory and trying to own the Libs and 466 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:27,200 Speaker 2: the Dems whatever, and then the first economic. 467 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 4: Piece he gets to is eggs. 468 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 2: So it did indicate to me like, Okay, the administration, 469 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 2: whoever wrote this speech and Trump himself feel like they've 470 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:36,360 Speaker 2: got a bit of a problem here. 471 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:38,679 Speaker 4: And the pulse have reflected that if you ask people, 472 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:39,919 Speaker 4: do you feel like they. 473 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 2: Are doing enough on prices, pretty overwhelming when people are 474 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 2: like no, I do not feel like they're doing enough 475 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 2: on prices, and that is one of the political challenges 476 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 2: and warning signs for them. Also, as we played in 477 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:55,439 Speaker 2: that Harry Entin sat before we got into this, you know, 478 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:58,640 Speaker 2: his numbers, his economic numbers in terms of the approval 479 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 2: of his handling of the economy are low, and that's 480 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:02,160 Speaker 2: always been a strong suit for him. 481 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:04,400 Speaker 4: So I do feel like they were. 482 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 2: Trying to play a little bit of cleanup on the 483 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:09,160 Speaker 2: egg prices thing, you know, blame it on Biden, say well, 484 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 2: I promise we're working really hard on it, et cetera. 485 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:12,159 Speaker 4: And that was noteworthy to me. 486 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:14,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, it could work for now, Like I said, you know, 487 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 3: you have a little bit of runway, but after two three. 488 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,199 Speaker 1: Months, like you know, the runways, the runway is going 489 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 1: to be over. 490 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 3: Especially if they feel all this doze stuff. This is 491 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 3: my greatest I mean, I still can't get away from this. 492 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,919 Speaker 3: It's almost fifty days in to the Trump administration, almost 493 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:30,440 Speaker 3: halfway of the first one hundred days. The most consequential 494 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 3: part and what it's just been doge elon Like there's 495 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 3: been almost nothing else. 496 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 1: I haven't even seen deportation take Matt. 497 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 3: You know, like that I saw I think it was 498 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 3: Joe Wisenthal said that he's like the only thing that's 499 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,359 Speaker 3: really surprised me other than Doge is the fact that 500 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:47,920 Speaker 3: deportation has not taken such a center stage like they've 501 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 3: had Tom Homan on, They've had a few like high. 502 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 1: Profiles out there. Whatever. 503 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:54,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, Jack, they're trying to you know, I was watching 504 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 3: Fox News at home, not by choice because the whole 505 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:58,119 Speaker 3: Ukraine thing. I was trying to watch it live, and 506 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:00,880 Speaker 3: I got an ad from Kirsty No telling I legal 507 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 3: immigrants to go home. 508 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:03,359 Speaker 1: Like are they watching Fox News? 509 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:07,679 Speaker 4: There's some ways that they That's as. 510 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 1: I was shocked by it. I was like, this is 511 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 1: like the most inicient views of money. 512 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 3: These are a bunch of like seventy year old white 513 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 3: boomers who are watching this right now daytime Fox as well. 514 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,920 Speaker 5: So anyway, he did the Guantanamo things because it's a spectacle. 515 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, but it was just a number he needs. 516 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 3: But that's my point on that is that even with that, 517 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:30,160 Speaker 3: I mean, as far as I know all of that, 518 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 3: it hasn't been like a particularly large number. 519 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 2: It. 520 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:37,719 Speaker 3: They haven't necessarily been prioritizing criminals as opposed to like 521 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 3: just whoever they happen to round up. There's never been 522 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 3: any like transparency around it. They haven't released the daily 523 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 3: figures the way that they have. Instead, they're trying to 524 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 3: make these flash like spectacle things like you guys are saying, 525 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 3: but like empirically, I mean, you can just look at 526 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 3: the number and you can say this is not impressive whatsoever. 527 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 1: I mean, look, you know, give credit where due. 528 00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 3: I guess on the border crossings, but that's not the 529 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:02,640 Speaker 3: same thing as opposed to kind of what was promised. 530 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 3: So if you look at you know, on the inflation 531 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 3: and the immigration point where there's two things, I would 532 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,880 Speaker 3: say he's probably the most responsible for getting him elected. 533 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 3: You have not seen the vast majority of the energy 534 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 3: getting focused on that he is hoping. And this speech 535 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 3: really did crystallize a lot of like the Trump victory 536 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 3: to me is look, I mean, he if you listen 537 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 3: to the first forty five minutes of this, which statistically 538 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 3: most people are watching, what was it was culture war 539 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 3: all day long? 540 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 1: Right, he believed it. 541 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 3: Wasn't just bad it was, but it was that it 542 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:33,479 Speaker 3: was that, but it was like trans it was the 543 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 3: greatest hits, like of all the Republican culture with. 544 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 1: Our country important, woke, Our country will be woke. 545 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:43,920 Speaker 2: Free speech is back on a day that you know, 546 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:47,639 Speaker 2: when they're announcing their requires people actually read. 547 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 6: He went on vaccines as well, like this was a 548 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:52,680 Speaker 6: lot of culture we're talking points. 549 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 7: He was actually talking about how I can pull this up. 550 00:24:56,640 --> 00:25:04,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, Bobby Kennedy is looking into Bobby Kennedy is 551 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:05,360 Speaker 2: looking into. 552 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 1: We should look at he said. 553 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 7: This is the quote he said we have. 554 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 1: He's not at the end, but there was much later on. 555 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:14,680 Speaker 7: Right, But it's like the culture war thing. 556 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 6: He said, since nineteen seventy five, rates of child cancer 557 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,439 Speaker 6: have increased more than forty percent. Reversing this trend as 558 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:22,680 Speaker 6: one of the top priorities of our new presidential Commission 559 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,359 Speaker 6: to Make America Healthy Again, Chared Bran, new Secretary of 560 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 6: HHS RFK Junior. Our goals to get ToxS inst out 561 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:29,959 Speaker 6: of our environment, poisons out of our foods, supplying keep 562 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,400 Speaker 6: our children healthy and strong. As an example, not long ago, 563 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:34,879 Speaker 6: one in ten thousand children had autism. 564 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 7: Now it's one in thirty. 565 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:39,400 Speaker 2: So the first part of that makes me so irritated, because, 566 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:41,879 Speaker 2: first of all, obviously they just cut a bunch of 567 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 2: funding for research, including into you know, cancer, and in addition, 568 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 2: they have spent the first period in office rolling back 569 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,879 Speaker 2: some of the restrictions on chemicals like pfasts. 570 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,119 Speaker 4: So yeah, it's just so I don't know. 571 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 6: Me, it's just so he ended that section of a 572 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 6: speech by saying something is wrong and we're going to 573 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 6: find out what it is. 574 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 1: So I mean, something is wrong. It's true. 575 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, of that is. 576 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 1: RK. 577 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 7: Junior is looking into the vaccines. I don't idea. 578 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:11,440 Speaker 1: I didn't. 579 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:13,879 Speaker 3: I mean, I if you want it that, if you 580 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:15,639 Speaker 3: want that, you could take that from it. 581 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,400 Speaker 1: But I don't know. I didn't see it was necessarily. 582 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,399 Speaker 1: I mean, he was obviously signaling it if he. 583 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:24,639 Speaker 3: Like for the people who want to hear that, but 584 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:26,920 Speaker 3: it's also like on an empirical basis when people hear 585 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 3: that those I'm not against. 586 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 1: That, right, but it's me. It's my point around it 587 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:32,160 Speaker 1: all was. 588 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 3: I was like, he believes that that is the most 589 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 3: important reason why you want to me. 590 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:36,879 Speaker 1: That's what. 591 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 3: There's no other reason why you would start forty five 592 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 3: minutes of your speech off this way. 593 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 1: It's obvious. 594 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 3: So he thinks that this alone is going to be 595 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 3: enough to coast him. And by the way, I think 596 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 3: he could be right. 597 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:50,359 Speaker 11: I mean, there's a huge you know, the whole Maga 598 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 11: universe online and all this, all the transgender like the 599 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:59,440 Speaker 11: woman who's standing up, who was hit by a woman 600 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:00,200 Speaker 11: by the. 601 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:01,640 Speaker 1: Volleyball thing like that. 602 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 3: You know, that's what they live for, right, Like that's 603 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,959 Speaker 3: that's the reason Ben Shapiro and Matt Walshalls are in 604 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:07,439 Speaker 3: the audience. 605 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 6: But it's it's also to get a contrast with Democrats 606 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:13,399 Speaker 6: not applauding those lines. It's very intentional, and that's I 607 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 6: think it's powerful. 608 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 4: With Peyton mcnat I read it a little different. You 609 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 4: won't be surprised to hear. 610 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,719 Speaker 2: I mean, listen, it's the exact thing that Democrats do 611 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,399 Speaker 2: when they want to cover for their lack of agenda 612 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 2: that delivers for working class people. They fix it on 613 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 2: identity and cultural issues. And it's the same shit. It's 614 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 2: just from Trump. This is you know, they like, people 615 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 2: aren't happy with how the economy is going. They feel 616 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 2: that it's getting worse and it already wasn't great. The 617 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 2: you know, obviously today the stock market fell off a 618 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 2: cliff and you've got, as we were saying before, the 619 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,679 Speaker 2: super sentiment can super spending down, and there's warnings in. 620 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 4: The manufacturing sector. 621 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 2: You've got this warning from the Atlanta Fed like people 622 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,920 Speaker 2: are not satisfied with that direction. And he really isn't 623 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,239 Speaker 2: offering anything in the near term that you can point to. 624 00:27:55,359 --> 00:28:00,119 Speaker 2: I mean maybe no tax on tips, maybe, but so instead, ed, 625 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 2: what do you do You usher in an agenda that's 626 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 2: been really good for people like Elon Musk and other 627 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:05,919 Speaker 2: oligarchs by saying, oh. 628 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 4: This is about DEI this is about woke. Woke is over. 629 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 4: Don't you feel great? 630 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,159 Speaker 2: So that's how I read the reason why it was 631 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 2: front loaded with culture war, the same reason that you 632 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 2: know that Democrats who weren't delivering for working class people 633 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:18,879 Speaker 2: also would be in the culture war. 634 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:20,360 Speaker 1: I'm not disagreeing with the word you're saying. 635 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I do think it's still obviously very 636 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 3: politically powerful. Unfortunately, this is the hold that Trump has. 637 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, guys, please remind me on a future show. 638 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:33,360 Speaker 3: A listener of our show who works for the DoD 639 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,000 Speaker 3: who voted for Trump sent me a very long email 640 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 3: about why he voted for Republicans even though he works 641 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 3: within the d D and his reasoning. It reminds me 642 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 3: of all this because it was for cultural war reasons, 643 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 3: specifically talking about Pepjoes whatever. If you recall I made 644 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 3: that comment, I was like, I don't I was like, 645 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 3: anyone who voted for the federal voted for Trump, and 646 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 3: he worked for the federal government. 647 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 1: I was like, I don't really know what to tell you. 648 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 3: I was like, you're kind of an idiot if you 649 00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 3: didn't think that something like this was going to happen 650 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 3: to me. He sent me a very long justification for 651 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 3: why he did it. I actually think it bears discussion 652 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 3: with all of us. But that's a tease for the futures. 653 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 4: Her. Now he's still like, yeah, I did the right then, No, 654 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 4: he does not regret it. 655 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 1: He's voted for Trump for three times. 656 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 3: He voted for Trump because Democrats could not define what 657 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 3: a woman is. But he is upset about the doche 658 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 3: cuts and in the in the logic of the email, 659 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 3: it really hit home for me why I still think 660 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 3: that this is very politically, very politically strong. 661 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 1: Territory for Trump. Now how long he can ride on it. 662 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 1: I have no idea. Right, we'll be America. 663 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 3: They'll give you the runway, and this will you know, 664 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 3: this will keep people feeling as if things are very different. 665 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:39,720 Speaker 3: It's still you know, only a month or so into 666 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 3: the new administration, but how long until it gets old? 667 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 3: And that's when I think it starts to become from And. 668 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 6: This is what I don't think Republicans are doing this 669 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 6: on purpose, but I do think one of the big 670 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 6: lessons for Democrats should be that if you're asked to 671 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 6: choose between Trump and Republicans, red meat, culture warfare and Democrats, 672 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 6: for many voters, Republicans still come out on top, even 673 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 6: if they don't like the way that Donald Trump talks. Yeah, yeah, exactly. 674 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 6: And so that's where I know we're going to talk 675 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 6: about al Green. We teased it a little bit earlier 676 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 6: and the like resist t shirt walk out the paddle 677 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 6: signs that looked like, as some people were joking, fogo 678 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 6: to chow can bring me my meat signs. 679 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 4: It's yeah, it was. 680 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 6: And so again for a lot of voters that Democrats 681 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 6: are like, it's I get it. 682 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 7: Like Trump. 683 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 6: Trump went for an hour and forty minutes an extremely 684 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 6: partisan speech and said some wild stuff and called the 685 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 6: senator Pocahontas to her face. 686 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 7: But then they look at the Democrats, They're like you 687 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 7: guys deserve it. 688 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 3: So let's start with the Al Green thing. That what 689 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 3: is that number one? So this was the first Democratic protest. 690 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 3: I thought there were going to be a lot more. 691 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 3: Actually I was surprised that there won't again. 692 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 1: A rock star. Yeah, they got to a very start 693 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 1: and then became extremely lame. 694 00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 3: So Al Green here being escorted out of the House chamber. 695 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 1: He was shaking, literally shaking his cane. 696 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 3: Donald Trump, not since Charles Sumner, right right, Ryan, Not 697 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 3: since Charles Sumner is a cane so loudly been felt 698 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 3: on the floor of the United States Congress. 699 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 1: Let's take a listen. 700 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 12: Finding that members continue to engage in willful and concert 701 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 12: the disruption or proper decorum, the Chair now directs the 702 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 12: Sergeant at Arms to restore order, remove this gentleman from 703 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 12: the chamber. 704 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 1: All right, So that was Al Green, congressman getting escorted out. 705 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 3: He said he was shouting at him he have no 706 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 3: mandate to cut medicaid. 707 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 1: Let's also put a number. Apparently that's what he that's 708 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 1: what he claims kicks out. 709 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 3: Apparently people only heard you have no mandate. Let's go 710 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 3: to the number two. Please the screenshot. Can you guys 711 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 3: put that up while I talk. This is the one 712 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 3: that's going pretty viral from what people are saying, it's lame. 713 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 3: Some of the what are the like placards being piled up, signs. 714 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 1: Small signs, small round bingo like signs. 715 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:11,200 Speaker 3: Being held up by Democrats include musk stels, that's a lie, 716 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:14,200 Speaker 3: that's from Rashida to leave, she's a whiteboard, false false, 717 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 3: musk steels, save medicaid, musk steels some false and that going. 718 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 7: They should have all said save medicaid. 719 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:24,200 Speaker 3: Seriously, Yeah, I agree, I was like, save medicaid. That 720 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 3: is probably the most powerful one. You Crystal scent to 721 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 3: this from the Daily Show. Fun fact, Democrats are wearing 722 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 3: pink tonight as a symbolic protest against people who want 723 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 3: them to do something meaningful. So that's pretty damn Yeah. 724 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 7: So personal. 725 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:47,239 Speaker 2: I mean, clearly like they are getting the message that 726 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 2: people want them to do more, but they just have 727 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 2: no idea what that actually looks like. 728 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 4: I will say I thought. 729 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 2: Rocanna and Tim Walls had a really good idea, which 730 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 2: is all these Republicans are like, oh, we're not going 731 00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 2: to do town halls anymore, and they're like, okay, well 732 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 2: come your district, new town. You know, that's smart, and 733 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 2: I think we'll play really well and you know, put 734 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 2: pressure on Republicans like, ah shit, this guy's doing a 735 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:10,720 Speaker 2: town all my district. I guess I need to show up, 736 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 2: or at least it's sort of shameful to them to 737 00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:15,840 Speaker 2: not show up. Bernie Sanders obviously, he's also I think, 738 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:17,960 Speaker 2: delivering a response along with Alyssa's luck in. 739 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,440 Speaker 3: Yes, she's speaking right now, she's speaking right now. 740 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:23,720 Speaker 1: I'm monitoring the quote. 741 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, the deep stat is responding Alyssa's sludge. 742 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 3: Currently says Reagan is rolling in his grave afirmatively talking 743 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 3: about Reagan. 744 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 1: Let's see what else here. 745 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 2: But I also think, you know, the Bernie Sanders oligarchy 746 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 2: tour going to specifically swing Republican districts where you know, 747 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 2: the Republican House they need every single vote to be 748 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 2: able to do anything, and so he's recognized that as 749 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 2: a pressure point. I think that's also very intelligent. But yeah, 750 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 2: I mean these things just read is like sort of. 751 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 5: The only indication that Democrats would be getting the message 752 00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 5: would be if they said, you know what, Bernie, you'd 753 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 5: do the response, yes, that would at least be surprising 754 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:03,960 Speaker 5: to people. 755 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 3: So instead they picked a CIA spook from Michigan who 756 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:12,279 Speaker 3: actually says no guardrails on what they do. We need 757 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 3: more efficient government. You want to cut waste, I'll help 758 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,080 Speaker 3: you do it. But does but change doesn't need to 759 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:18,759 Speaker 3: be chaotic or make us less safe. 760 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean she's one of the ones that she's 761 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 2: voted for a bunch of Trump pets. She voted for 762 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 2: the Lake and Riley act, Like you know, she's that's 763 00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:30,319 Speaker 2: who she is. And it also speaks to okay, not 764 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:32,919 Speaker 2: just would it indicate they're getting it from a sort 765 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:36,759 Speaker 2: of like policy perspective if they had Bernie Sanders respond. 766 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,840 Speaker 4: But people would actually watch right now. 767 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,759 Speaker 2: Bernie is racking up there, it would go viral millions of. 768 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:44,800 Speaker 4: Views on everything he does. 769 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:48,719 Speaker 2: I mean, he is an absolute TikTok sensation, and these 770 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 2: town halls were getting insane views like everything he says 771 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:53,640 Speaker 2: and does is going viral. 772 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:57,840 Speaker 4: So why wouldn't you be like, maybe that guy. 773 00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,399 Speaker 2: Should be the one or row you know, or row 774 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:04,720 Speaker 2: or listen the whole thing about giving the oversight ranking 775 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 2: Committee member to Jerry Connolly instead of AGOC, Like what 776 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 2: are you thinking? One of these people knows how to 777 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 2: communicate and understands the attention economy and is on it 778 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:18,239 Speaker 2: and understands the online like attention ecosystem. 779 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 4: But the other one earned it, Crystal, and the other 780 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:21,320 Speaker 4: one he's been waiting this. 781 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,760 Speaker 7: You know, it's in line follow. 782 00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:28,000 Speaker 4: It's just total total insanity. 783 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,880 Speaker 3: If the Dems get a tea party, how big was 784 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:32,359 Speaker 3: a tea party blowout in twenty ten? 785 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:34,960 Speaker 4: It was like they've picked up like sixty. 786 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:36,720 Speaker 1: Jenuine. 787 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:37,719 Speaker 4: I want to say something. 788 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:39,719 Speaker 3: If that happened to the Dems, would that happen like 789 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,600 Speaker 3: the Jerry Connolly stuff still happened, and would Hakeem like 790 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 3: get to keep his seat? 791 00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:45,719 Speaker 1: Ca Yeah, b. 792 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,640 Speaker 3: Who the Democrats if they get a Republican style tea 793 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:53,440 Speaker 3: party blowout when in the House of Representatives and Democrats, 794 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 3: Democrats take control, definitely. 795 00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:56,000 Speaker 5: I mean the Keems. 796 00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:59,000 Speaker 1: So you think he'll stay even though they don't like him. 797 00:35:59,600 --> 00:35:59,880 Speaker 1: I don't know. 798 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:00,799 Speaker 4: It depends on. 799 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:05,040 Speaker 2: It's kind of depends on the kind of characters who win, 800 00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:08,040 Speaker 2: and it depends on if that dem tea party also 801 00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:12,400 Speaker 2: consists of not just winning in Republican seats but primary 802 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:14,560 Speaker 2: people that they're you. 803 00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:15,240 Speaker 4: Know, disgusting. 804 00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:18,319 Speaker 2: And I've mentioned this before, but I went back and 805 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:22,120 Speaker 2: looked at the Tea Party era polling for Republican base 806 00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:25,719 Speaker 2: voters how they felt about Republican congressional leaders, and it 807 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:29,200 Speaker 2: is very similar to the way that Democratic voters feel 808 00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:32,520 Speaker 2: right now about democratic leadership. Democratic leaders are underwater by 809 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:34,200 Speaker 2: like nine points in the last pole that we saw. 810 00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:36,240 Speaker 4: This is so different from twenty sixty. 811 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,799 Speaker 2: You guys know poloc shift like they sell, Oh, these 812 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 2: people are doing the thing we want. 813 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:41,919 Speaker 4: Them to do. These are our heroes, et cetera. 814 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,920 Speaker 2: It is not like that anymore. And so you know, 815 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:48,279 Speaker 2: if you had some of these people who have been 816 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:52,880 Speaker 2: the most disappointing getting primaried, and you have a more 817 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:57,759 Speaker 2: sort of like forceful radical group that comes in that 818 00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:00,879 Speaker 2: doesn't owe their seats to the Party of Styles, then 819 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:03,080 Speaker 2: you could end up with some different dynamics. And I 820 00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:05,520 Speaker 2: think the other thing that opens up that possibility is 821 00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:09,440 Speaker 2: that liberals are also completely disenchanted with their media outlets, 822 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,439 Speaker 2: and so that creates a really different dynamic as well. 823 00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:14,440 Speaker 4: So there's a lot of IFFs here about how this 824 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:14,960 Speaker 4: will all. 825 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:18,120 Speaker 2: Go down, but I will say I think the indications 826 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:20,880 Speaker 2: are very much in the direction of you're probably going 827 00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:24,799 Speaker 2: to have a blowout your blue waveyear for Democrats. Just 828 00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:27,440 Speaker 2: you know, if you look at history and backlash to 829 00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:29,960 Speaker 2: parties that have complete power, if you look at we're 830 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:34,080 Speaker 2: so early and there's already this level of sentiment and 831 00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:37,480 Speaker 2: Republicans who are hiding and worried, and Elon is just 832 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:40,440 Speaker 2: doing his thing and they're going after Social Security and 833 00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:43,320 Speaker 2: the economy is on the brink. I think you could 834 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:46,360 Speaker 2: be setting up quite a catastrophe for. 835 00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:47,000 Speaker 1: The work could be. 836 00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:49,719 Speaker 3: I mean, it could phase out because it's he party 837 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,719 Speaker 3: peaked in what oh nine, right around nine months in. 838 00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:56,080 Speaker 3: That's when the t That's when the Obamacare stuff was 839 00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,440 Speaker 3: really happened, and then it is special he was right 840 00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:01,440 Speaker 3: there at the tail of nine into ten and then 841 00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:02,719 Speaker 3: going into the midtermine. 842 00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:03,399 Speaker 7: Well, I guess. 843 00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:05,680 Speaker 6: I mean I would say maybe, honestly, I would put 844 00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:08,759 Speaker 6: it through the Senate the what did Obama call it 845 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:11,560 Speaker 6: the route or whatever he said in twenty four lacking, Yeah, 846 00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:14,920 Speaker 6: shellacking in twenty fourteen. I would I would extend it 847 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:15,200 Speaker 6: through that. 848 00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:17,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, no, no, absolutely. I was just thinking in terms 849 00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,839 Speaker 3: of timing. So if the Democratic whatever. 850 00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:21,400 Speaker 7: Coffee oh, I say, ok. 851 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:25,439 Speaker 3: The Coffee Party peaks like thirty days in because Trump 852 00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:27,520 Speaker 3: administration it could still you know, it could still like 853 00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:32,560 Speaker 3: it could still actually phase out, or you know, who knows. 854 00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:38,600 Speaker 5: So much depends on what Trump's policies due to the economy. 855 00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:41,360 Speaker 5: I think, yeah, I think you're right, because you know, 856 00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:43,320 Speaker 5: he could back off. He could say no, it's just 857 00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:46,200 Speaker 5: kidding on these tariffs. Federal workers are allowed back in 858 00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,239 Speaker 5: with a federal judge, and then he could say we're 859 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,400 Speaker 5: going to fire them all in September, and then he 860 00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:53,480 Speaker 5: doesn't actually fire them in September because things are struggling 861 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:54,960 Speaker 5: then and you get a little downturn and then it 862 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,279 Speaker 5: comes back up. Or you could get this full on 863 00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,839 Speaker 5: Trump thing where he's like, no, we're really true, we're 864 00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:03,680 Speaker 5: doing some major transition. Like in his speech tonight, he's 865 00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,960 Speaker 5: alluding to real difficulties ahead. 866 00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:09,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, he said to the farmers, he said, there'll be 867 00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:11,600 Speaker 2: they'll be a little bit of adjustment, but we're okay 868 00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:15,600 Speaker 2: with that, which you know Elon also promised like hardship, 869 00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:16,640 Speaker 2: temporary hardship. 870 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:17,400 Speaker 1: He's trying to do. 871 00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,200 Speaker 5: He's trying to do a thing that politicians have done 872 00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:23,440 Speaker 5: many times over the generations, bring people together in times 873 00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:25,719 Speaker 5: of hardships that we collectively can then get to a 874 00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:31,160 Speaker 5: better place. Except he also wants to do it while dismissing, attacking, 875 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,800 Speaker 5: and calling the other half the country a bunch of 876 00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:39,560 Speaker 5: traders and losers. So FDR had you know, sixty plus 877 00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:42,439 Speaker 5: seats in the Senate and sixty you know, and one 878 00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:44,960 Speaker 5: massive mandate, so he could say, all right. 879 00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:46,960 Speaker 4: We're all doing this, we're all doing. 880 00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:49,680 Speaker 5: This together, we're rowing together, and it's just the bankers 881 00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:52,880 Speaker 5: that are against us. Trump's like, we're all in this together, 882 00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:56,840 Speaker 5: except like half the country, the universities, the doctors. 883 00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:02,040 Speaker 13: Every federal every federal someone's got to that university, all 884 00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:06,000 Speaker 13: the teachers, the capitol police, like, but everyone else, Yeah, 885 00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:07,120 Speaker 13: we're in it. 886 00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:07,640 Speaker 4: We're in it. 887 00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:10,879 Speaker 5: So I don't know how you do both of those things, 888 00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:14,480 Speaker 5: because he wants to do he wants to ask for 889 00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:16,960 Speaker 5: shared sacrifice without sharing any common value. 890 00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:20,239 Speaker 2: We're sharing the sacrifice among people like Elon Musk who 891 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:23,560 Speaker 2: are getting you know, just after Lusk wants. 892 00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:25,680 Speaker 5: To be joyful about what he's doing to people, rather 893 00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:28,520 Speaker 5: than like read people in and say this is why 894 00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:29,040 Speaker 5: we're doing I. 895 00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:31,880 Speaker 3: Think your point though about if they back off after 896 00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:34,959 Speaker 3: a catastrophic three months or not even catastrophic bad three 897 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:35,319 Speaker 3: months I. 898 00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:36,319 Speaker 1: Mean that's long enough time. 899 00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:39,040 Speaker 3: You know, that's almost what several months to go to 900 00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,439 Speaker 3: the midterms, and so you could at least see some 901 00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:44,520 Speaker 3: sort of change. The problem is is that right now 902 00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:46,120 Speaker 3: we have no indication that that's. 903 00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:46,399 Speaker 1: Going to happen. 904 00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:49,440 Speaker 3: Elon's getting a shout out, the State of the Union, 905 00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:52,839 Speaker 3: those is getting you know, lists getting read off. You've 906 00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:55,960 Speaker 3: got the Social Security fraud thing, and we're going a 907 00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,080 Speaker 3: whole hog on the tariff. So it's like, okay, well 908 00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:00,719 Speaker 3: that that's all we can really go off right now. Yeah, 909 00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,440 Speaker 3: tax cut, that's the thing. The tax is a separate category. 910 00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:06,239 Speaker 3: That's gonna happen. That's not changing at all. Oh, I 911 00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:09,120 Speaker 3: see the other stuff might change at top. 912 00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,759 Speaker 4: Of that, likely medicaid cuts, you. 913 00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:14,160 Speaker 5: Know, and in the same way that social here actually 914 00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:18,560 Speaker 5: do flub some Social Security checks, like all people. 915 00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:20,200 Speaker 1: Will lose it. I agree with you. Yeah, and they 916 00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:22,799 Speaker 1: should lose it. That's that's that's great. 917 00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:25,080 Speaker 4: They're flirting with that. I mean, you're flirting with that. 918 00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:29,000 Speaker 2: They're flirting with another plane crash that really can be laid. 919 00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:30,000 Speaker 1: I left that out. 920 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,000 Speaker 3: You're exactly right, which is that if there's a major 921 00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:35,000 Speaker 3: natural disaster, if there's a major hurricane after they've been 922 00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,600 Speaker 3: cutting all these Noah things, and where they can't properly 923 00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:40,560 Speaker 3: call a category four or a category five, and some. 924 00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:43,000 Speaker 1: People, even if it's not their fault, doesn't matter. 925 00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:46,960 Speaker 2: Where they've gutted FEMA and they can't properly respond to 926 00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,000 Speaker 2: which you know, responding to a natural disaster even with 927 00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:52,400 Speaker 2: the best of government funding levels is difficult. 928 00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:54,480 Speaker 4: You've got a potential shutdown coming up. 929 00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:57,800 Speaker 2: I mean, there's just there's just disaster around every corner 930 00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,719 Speaker 2: and an economy that's already starting to turn south. So 931 00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:03,640 Speaker 2: I think, you know, it would take a lot at 932 00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:07,040 Speaker 2: this point to recover from the trajectory that they've already 933 00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:10,520 Speaker 2: set things on, and you know, to see Elon there. 934 00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:13,560 Speaker 4: It's just this is the part that I. 935 00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:16,480 Speaker 2: Could not have predicted, is how much of the presidency 936 00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:18,799 Speaker 2: he would see to Elon like I just could not 937 00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:20,319 Speaker 2: have seen that, nobody would have. 938 00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:24,120 Speaker 3: And the thing is is it goes against everything that 939 00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:26,760 Speaker 3: we know about Donald exactly. Why would he ever see 940 00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:30,000 Speaker 3: I still don't understand it. Why would you ever seed 941 00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:33,720 Speaker 3: so much? Could not control? What does Trump care about? 942 00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:38,040 Speaker 3: Attention media? Every probably American at this point who's even 943 00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:40,600 Speaker 3: tangentially aware of the Trump News could. 944 00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:42,120 Speaker 1: Tell you about Elon could be a good thing, could 945 00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:44,680 Speaker 1: be a bad thing. Why would you want that? Why 946 00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:46,880 Speaker 1: would you want your presidency defined? 947 00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:50,399 Speaker 3: Find this guy with fifteen kids and all this other 948 00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:52,759 Speaker 3: baggage and weird shit that he does all the time. 949 00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:55,960 Speaker 6: He's really tied his brand literally one of the most 950 00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:58,880 Speaker 6: eccentric and polarizing people in the world, right and he 951 00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:01,640 Speaker 6: could be having he could actually be having roughs vote 952 00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:04,160 Speaker 6: like out there doing doge, you know what I mean. 953 00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,080 Speaker 3: And it would it would not even be a headline. 954 00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:07,520 Speaker 3: It would it would be first of all, we were 955 00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:09,440 Speaker 3: done properly. Second of all, it would be done or 956 00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:13,239 Speaker 3: verse like legally or you know, in terms of it 957 00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:16,280 Speaker 3: would be it would be much more within the line 958 00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:19,799 Speaker 3: of like traditional Washington process and they could fight it 959 00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:23,000 Speaker 3: out and in the institutions and the norms like and 960 00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:25,400 Speaker 3: I mean it seems to be. That seems why Vivek 961 00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:29,040 Speaker 3: ultimately left Dose was really over a beef on something 962 00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:33,640 Speaker 3: like this his white people tweet acide. But yeah, just 963 00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:35,600 Speaker 3: putting it together, I mean, that's just the most shocking 964 00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:37,680 Speaker 3: part about all of this is like he's playing the 965 00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:39,839 Speaker 3: fire and I think that's the theme that I've I've 966 00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:41,640 Speaker 3: really come away from this state of the Union. I 967 00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:43,800 Speaker 3: think there was a ton of raid meat. If your maga, 968 00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:45,520 Speaker 3: you'll love it. And of course you you're gonna love 969 00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:47,680 Speaker 3: You're gonna love anything. The guy says, there's lots of 970 00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:49,840 Speaker 3: culture war stuff and all that. But you know, for 971 00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:53,080 Speaker 3: for us, like when we look at the dangers of 972 00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:57,920 Speaker 3: natural disaster, social security, economic problems, and then just you know, 973 00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:01,240 Speaker 3: chaotic nature, people feeling as if they are not in control, 974 00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:03,080 Speaker 3: those are all very very dangerous places. 975 00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:07,400 Speaker 2: I also, I also think that the amount of gutting 976 00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:12,040 Speaker 2: of like white color police that they've done is a risk, 977 00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:17,560 Speaker 2: is like gutting the CFPP and gutting the SEC enforcement. 978 00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:20,600 Speaker 2: I mean, you've just got such like out right crop. 979 00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:22,560 Speaker 2: You guys see the story about people paying a million 980 00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:23,640 Speaker 2: or five million dollars to. 981 00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:26,480 Speaker 3: Have five five million, five million dollars to have a 982 00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:27,480 Speaker 3: one on one dinner. 983 00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:28,479 Speaker 4: With which Trump, Yeah, like. 984 00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:29,960 Speaker 1: Just he doesn't even need the money. 985 00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:33,480 Speaker 7: It's it's for campaign, the coin, it's it's. 986 00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:36,520 Speaker 1: It's to a campaign fund. And why do you need 987 00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:37,920 Speaker 1: five million dollars for your campaign? 988 00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:41,240 Speaker 2: I mean, you've got that, You've got the crypto dude 989 00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:45,080 Speaker 2: who gave him, you know, seventy five million dollars into 990 00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:48,799 Speaker 2: his mean coin, and then oh SEC dropped enforcement. And 991 00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:51,680 Speaker 2: so when you put all of these together, it's like 992 00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:55,759 Speaker 2: this is just like Elon and his billionaire buddies, like 993 00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:57,880 Speaker 2: they're just robbing and plundering the government. 994 00:44:58,080 --> 00:44:59,960 Speaker 4: I mean, the picture adds up. It's it does. 995 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:05,040 Speaker 2: Doesn't take a genius political messenger, even this lame ass 996 00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:08,400 Speaker 2: Democratic Party can put those pieces together to say like 997 00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:12,319 Speaker 2: this administration is about the rich. And but you know, 998 00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:15,359 Speaker 2: to go back to the Trump and Elon point, like 999 00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:18,960 Speaker 2: even just to see the spotlight of his State of 1000 00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:22,799 Speaker 2: the Union address for standing ovation to Elon, I don't 1001 00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:25,200 Speaker 2: think any of us could have anticipated that. And it 1002 00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:27,279 Speaker 2: really does ask some questions about like, what the hell 1003 00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:29,480 Speaker 2: is going on here? Does he care? Is there some 1004 00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:32,200 Speaker 2: sort of a deal? What has made it so that 1005 00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:37,400 Speaker 2: he is just really ceeded his previous ideological positioning to 1006 00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:41,480 Speaker 2: Elon and the most prominent, most public parts of his 1007 00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:45,520 Speaker 2: entire government administration to Elon. And you're to your point 1008 00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:48,080 Speaker 2: about immigration, like I'm glad he's not making good on 1009 00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:52,480 Speaker 2: this particular promises nice the same as job but are 1010 00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:56,120 Speaker 2: actually lower than Joe Biden and that was the part 1011 00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:58,759 Speaker 2: that you know, in terms of one of the promises 1012 00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:00,680 Speaker 2: to work in class people again, and I don't this 1013 00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:02,759 Speaker 2: isn't accurate in my view, and I don't think that 1014 00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:04,879 Speaker 2: a mass deportation would help. I think that would further 1015 00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:07,240 Speaker 2: hurt the economy. But that was like the prep pledge 1016 00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:08,920 Speaker 2: to working class people was that this is. 1017 00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:10,279 Speaker 4: The thing that's really going to help you. 1018 00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:13,120 Speaker 2: And because it's not a priority of Elon, it's the 1019 00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:16,040 Speaker 2: part that's actually not really getting done again. I'm glad 1020 00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:18,839 Speaker 2: about that, but it is noteworthy to me that the 1021 00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:20,800 Speaker 2: part that has been so central to Trump but is 1022 00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:23,960 Speaker 2: not really particularly priority to Elon outside of him currying 1023 00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:26,480 Speaker 2: favor with MAGA, that part has kind of fallen, by. 1024 00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:28,400 Speaker 3: The way, right on top of the Golden visa thing, 1025 00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:30,920 Speaker 3: which is like a Silicon Valley wet dream where they 1026 00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:32,600 Speaker 3: get to just buy their citizenship in. 1027 00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:34,319 Speaker 4: H one B, which he sided with Elon or. 1028 00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:36,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, and he even mentioned that in this he's actually 1029 00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:39,640 Speaker 3: trying to fuse Golden Visa with He's trying to. 1030 00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:42,400 Speaker 1: Fuse Golden visa with the H one B program. If 1031 00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:44,200 Speaker 1: you heard there, it's like at any of these. 1032 00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:47,280 Speaker 3: Universities, Facebook can pay five million dollars. 1033 00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:50,359 Speaker 1: So yeah, Facebook gonna pay five million dollars for a coder. Okay, 1034 00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:52,520 Speaker 1: well the whole point the h one. 1035 00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:56,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like, yeah, that's like that made you think me. 1036 00:46:57,880 --> 00:46:59,480 Speaker 3: All right, we've been talking for long enough. You guys 1037 00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:01,360 Speaker 3: got any last things he wants to say? 1038 00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:03,440 Speaker 6: Actually, all I was going to say is and Democrats 1039 00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:07,640 Speaker 6: were sitting there with their stupid paddle signs, and so, 1040 00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:10,760 Speaker 6: I mean, I don't disagree with everything that we've all said. 1041 00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:13,440 Speaker 6: I just think the big takeaway, to the extent that 1042 00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:16,400 Speaker 6: Americans pay attention to this, I think Donald Trump successfully 1043 00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:21,680 Speaker 6: baited Democrats into a complete public relations disaster for themselves. 1044 00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:31,399 Speaker 1: Yea, I wouldn't say it's a disaster. I don't know. 1045 00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:32,680 Speaker 1: I think I disagree on that. 1046 00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:35,719 Speaker 7: Cool Wallas is already saying that little kid DJ. 1047 00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:39,399 Speaker 6: It was like the highlight human Republicans, Democrats all find 1048 00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:41,440 Speaker 6: a good human story in every state of the Union. 1049 00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:43,680 Speaker 7: This was the one from that. He's already saying. 1050 00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:49,319 Speaker 6: Nicole Wallace, she's already out on the MSNBC airway of saying, 1051 00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:50,680 Speaker 6: I hope he has a long life as a law 1052 00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:52,640 Speaker 6: enforcement officer, but I hope he never has to defend 1053 00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:55,000 Speaker 6: the United States Capitol against Donald Trump supporters, and if 1054 00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:56,319 Speaker 6: he does, I hope he has one of the sex 1055 00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:57,879 Speaker 6: who loses his life to suicide. 1056 00:47:58,000 --> 00:47:58,480 Speaker 1: I don't know. 1057 00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:01,360 Speaker 3: I just you know, it's like, I don't disagree that 1058 00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:04,080 Speaker 3: it's cringed, but I wouldn't call it a relations. 1059 00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:06,640 Speaker 2: They're not I mean, their memes are, They're not the 1060 00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:07,800 Speaker 2: center of the evening. 1061 00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:10,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think. I don't know. 1062 00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:13,640 Speaker 6: I think it was so bad that those I think 1063 00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:16,480 Speaker 6: those I think those optics were so bad with them 1064 00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:19,320 Speaker 6: with the paddle signs, they're just like perfect meme fodder. 1065 00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:22,279 Speaker 7: I think that was so so bad. That idea was 1066 00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:22,719 Speaker 7: so bad. 1067 00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:24,239 Speaker 1: I don't know, Al Green waving the. 1068 00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:26,200 Speaker 6: Cane and the paddle signs. I think it was so 1069 00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:28,560 Speaker 6: bad that it will a lot of people will see that. 1070 00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:31,319 Speaker 1: I think you could be right. I see a lot 1071 00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:34,359 Speaker 1: of right wing like, oh, they didn't even clap for this. 1072 00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:40,560 Speaker 1: Is that's people really like? And also it was one 1073 00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:43,919 Speaker 1: hundred minute speech. It is long. Yeah, I don't think anything. 1074 00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:46,920 Speaker 2: Here's one other thing that I that I would point to, 1075 00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:49,239 Speaker 2: Emily is I was looking at the some of the 1076 00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:53,279 Speaker 2: pulling around this and the approval rating of like Democrats 1077 00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:56,880 Speaker 2: and the Democratic Party and Congressional Democrats is in the tank. Yes, 1078 00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:58,960 Speaker 2: And yet when you ask people who do you prefer 1079 00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:05,480 Speaker 2: on a generic congresstional ballot Democrats, I'm the latest one 1080 00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:08,000 Speaker 2: was by five, which is significant. Yeah, which is going 1081 00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:10,000 Speaker 2: to I mean, listen, you take them with a gardenissal whatever. 1082 00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:12,520 Speaker 4: But you shouldn't look. 1083 00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:14,480 Speaker 2: At the fact that their approval, Like when people are 1084 00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:16,560 Speaker 2: like do you like these people are like no, but 1085 00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:18,279 Speaker 2: you like them better than these other people? They are 1086 00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:21,840 Speaker 2: like yeah, kind you know, because and that's that is 1087 00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:25,480 Speaker 2: a natural ebb and flow to politics. But also Republicans 1088 00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:28,600 Speaker 2: are truly enacting an agenda, and Trump in particular that 1089 00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:32,000 Speaker 2: is polls that is really unpopular. I mean, the Greenland 1090 00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:36,120 Speaker 2: stuff is unpopular, Gaza is unpopular. The even the Gulf 1091 00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:38,080 Speaker 2: of America thing, which I thought people might eat up, 1092 00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:41,759 Speaker 2: even that's unpopular, right, a lot of these pieces, and 1093 00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:44,960 Speaker 2: Doge is unpopular, and Elon's unpopular, and cutting social security 1094 00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:46,880 Speaker 2: and cutting medicaid and getting taxes were like, all of 1095 00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:50,840 Speaker 2: these things are really really unpopular. And so when you 1096 00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:53,160 Speaker 2: put that together and it's like, hey, do you want. 1097 00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:54,759 Speaker 4: Maybe a check on that? Even if these people are 1098 00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:55,360 Speaker 4: kind of lame. 1099 00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:58,480 Speaker 2: They're like, yeah, probably not to mention, Democrats have the 1100 00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:01,520 Speaker 2: benefit now of the co that previously used to benefit 1101 00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:04,680 Speaker 2: Republicans and mintterms, which is their people freaking show up. 1102 00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:06,520 Speaker 7: Yeah, that's true the midterm election. 1103 00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:07,600 Speaker 4: That matters a lot. 1104 00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:09,799 Speaker 2: So that's why I listen luck and at between now 1105 00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:12,760 Speaker 2: and blah blah blah, caveats, et cetera. But I would 1106 00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:15,799 Speaker 2: I think we're probably headed in the direction of a 1107 00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:18,400 Speaker 2: major political direction, even if the Democrats trying to. 1108 00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:20,520 Speaker 5: Be freaking Like, if Trump does blow things up, then 1109 00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:22,680 Speaker 5: people remember, oh yeah, they shook the cane at them. 1110 00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:28,800 Speaker 2: They didn't like what they were right about with those paddles. 1111 00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:31,000 Speaker 4: They were right, they were dated. 1112 00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:33,560 Speaker 6: I generally think that says don't make a big difference. 1113 00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:34,160 Speaker 1: I shouldn't don't. 1114 00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:36,279 Speaker 6: I shouldn't preface it with that anyway, in terms of 1115 00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:37,759 Speaker 6: like electoral outcomes, they don't. 1116 00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:40,479 Speaker 3: Although again I don't know why people love the State 1117 00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:43,399 Speaker 3: of the Union like people watch it. It's always the 1118 00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:45,960 Speaker 3: only political event in the top one hundred newscat or 1119 00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:47,640 Speaker 3: broadcast in the argophy. 1120 00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:49,600 Speaker 4: Really honestly, it's born. 1121 00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:53,319 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, people people like us who watched public like 1122 00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:55,680 Speaker 3: the debates are way more important, you know, stuff like that, 1123 00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:58,120 Speaker 3: the debate fun. 1124 00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:00,680 Speaker 4: There's even just a regular old Trump presser. 1125 00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:03,520 Speaker 1: Like a lot more Oh yeah, there's way more ship. 1126 00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:05,040 Speaker 4: A lot more ris actually going to happen. 1127 00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:09,200 Speaker 5: People like the show, So what ation for this being 1128 00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:11,800 Speaker 5: a country rights aspiration? 1129 00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:16,640 Speaker 4: This being a real country like this is serious? Tune 1130 00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:17,520 Speaker 4: in and here we are. 1131 00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:20,399 Speaker 1: I should take my scolding away. Everyone should keep. 1132 00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:23,759 Speaker 3: Watching if nonetheless, just because we always covered it is 1133 00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:25,040 Speaker 3: a fun It's a fun thing that. 1134 00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:27,120 Speaker 1: We enjoy doing here. It's an annual tradition. 1135 00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:30,360 Speaker 3: Ryan and I will be doing a special show for 1136 00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:33,960 Speaker 3: everybody tomorrow that will be dropping somewhere around midday, and 1137 00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:36,560 Speaker 3: then Crystal I will be back for a normal show 1138 00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:38,680 Speaker 3: on Thursday, so we will see you guys. 1139 00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:39,400 Speaker 1: We're also going to have. 1140 00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:41,880 Speaker 5: By the way, Adam ham away very briefly. He was 1141 00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:45,560 Speaker 5: Bonnie Watson Coleman's guest at the State of the Union. 1142 00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:48,680 Speaker 1: She'll join as well. She's a Democrat for New Jersey. 1143 00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:52,879 Speaker 5: He's the doctor who who saved Tammy Duckworth's life and. 1144 00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:54,760 Speaker 1: Was stuck in Gaza. 1145 00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:57,040 Speaker 5: So he was in the audience. I'll see what he 1146 00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:00,319 Speaker 5: see what he thought about that awesome before where you 1147 00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:00,680 Speaker 5: get on. 1148 00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:03,479 Speaker 2: A lot on the Middle East, looking forward to it 1149 00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:04,560 Speaker 2: really yeah zero. 1150 00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:05,600 Speaker 1: Just the hostage was. 1151 00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:07,239 Speaker 4: That he's tirelessly working. 1152 00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:11,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, working, tireless working, tires working tirelessly. We need to 1153 00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:13,560 Speaker 3: retire that one from one all right, We'll see you 1154 00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:14,000 Speaker 3: guys later