WEBVTT - How to Play Hard to Get | Golden Hour

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back everyone to Golden Hour. Thank you so much

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<v Speaker 1>for joining us. I'm Susan and.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Kathy, and I don't know we got we got.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got things to talk about today. First of all,

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<v Speaker 2>you're getting rain and we're not. I just want to

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<v Speaker 2>I want to put that out there.

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<v Speaker 1>Monsoons we are burning up over hair.

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<v Speaker 2>It's one hundred and three today right now, one hundred,

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred three.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's Texas. I remember I lived there.

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<v Speaker 2>I know it's so hot. I'm ready for fall when

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<v Speaker 2>it drops down to eighty five.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm still enjoying summer. And everybody's talking like it's oh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's almost over. It's early early August. Still for me,

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<v Speaker 1>I like, I don't want it to end.

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<v Speaker 2>You never want summer to end.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm fellows, but I've got a lot going on, Kathy.

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<v Speaker 1>My emotions have been way up high good to as

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<v Speaker 1>low as you could get.

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<v Speaker 2>Anything you want to share, well, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Think I shared with you before. My daughter is they're

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<v Speaker 1>starting a divorce and my grandchildren are really suffering. And

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<v Speaker 1>anybody out there that's listening, you know what that's like.

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<v Speaker 1>As a parent, You're only as happy as your unhappiest child.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying, It's not easy. It really

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<v Speaker 1>isn't easy. It wears on you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, here's hoping that, you know, they'll get it

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<v Speaker 2>squared away. And because kids, I think no one's asking

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<v Speaker 2>my opinion, but I think kids are better. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think you ever stay married for the kids.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know you shouldn't stay all right, Well, but

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<v Speaker 1>let's get on that.

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<v Speaker 2>I was going to say, this is your news. Now

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<v Speaker 2>we got to get into Bachelor Nation news. So the

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<v Speaker 2>first one is my lovely neighbors who I adore, Katie

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<v Speaker 2>Bigger and Zach Shallcross, who I now call her Katie

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<v Speaker 2>Shallcross just to be difficult, but they review why they

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<v Speaker 2>haven't worn wedding rings for quite some time. And of

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<v Speaker 2>course the it's it's it's always the story headline is

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<v Speaker 2>always bigger than the actual story, which is they were

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<v Speaker 2>having their rings resized and Katie has a marquee diamond.

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<v Speaker 2>I saw it, so she got her ring on her

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<v Speaker 2>first ring, you know, when she got engaged to Zach

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<v Speaker 2>on the show, and then he decided to repropose to her.

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<v Speaker 2>Much like Kate.

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<v Speaker 1>The rest of the young ones.

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<v Speaker 2>Kelsey and Joey just did the same thing. So he gave,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, acted an even bigger and more beautiful ring

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<v Speaker 2>than she got on the show. And I guess he'd

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<v Speaker 2>had the wrong size in it, uh when he when

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<v Speaker 2>he ordered it for her. And so I think they

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<v Speaker 2>were in Europe when he reproposed. But I've seen the

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<v Speaker 2>ring and it is glorious. So does he wear his? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I think they were both having the resized and he

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<v Speaker 2>was doing something different with his ring. I think he

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<v Speaker 2>was adding something or whatever. They were just doing something

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit different with their rings. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>if anybody thinks that these two are not happily married,

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<v Speaker 2>they moved into their new home. I'm trying to We're

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<v Speaker 2>trying to get a date together where they can come

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<v Speaker 2>over for dinner because you know, we live in the

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<v Speaker 2>same town. But they're talking about starting a family. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>they're gonna have a lot of great news this year.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, we should have such a problem that

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<v Speaker 1>our rings are being sized, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I can tell you I've had my ring sized

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<v Speaker 2>twice and it always goes bigger for my arthreadic nasty

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<v Speaker 2>little fingers. What else what else we got going on? Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, now you know We had Juliana on our podcast

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<v Speaker 1>just a little bit ago, and I know we were

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<v Speaker 1>digging is there something going on with that relationship with Mike?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you engaged? She would not tell Boom headlines. Yeah, confirmed, confirmed,

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<v Speaker 1>wedding place, admit ongoing engagement rumors. And it's so funny

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<v Speaker 1>to hear her talk. She's saying like Mike is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be the bridezilla, not her.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because he does special he's as a special event planner,

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<v Speaker 2>so he will be. But here's here's I have to

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<v Speaker 2>tell you know, sometimes I'm a little bit of a sleuth. Juliana.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, Juliana, I think we've said this a

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<v Speaker 2>million times. She grew up in my hometown. My sister

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<v Speaker 2>knows her uncle. Juliana, when you're listening to this, you've

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<v Speaker 2>never gotten back to me about your uncle. But whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>She posted a picture the other day in address and

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<v Speaker 2>she was twirling using like carousel and I may or

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<v Speaker 2>may not have stopped the video and there's a ring

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<v Speaker 2>on her left hand.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, yes, yes, no no.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you remember she wouldn't say she asked, she wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>tell us. Yeah, Well, I think she is engaged, and

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<v Speaker 2>Juliana I'm calling you out. If you don't want people

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<v Speaker 2>to know, don't do videos of yourself with that ring

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<v Speaker 2>show on your hand. But I love that she said,

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<v Speaker 2>I plan to bring you all along for the wedding

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<v Speaker 2>ideas that may not be typical. And I love that

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<v Speaker 2>because you know, if you're an event planner, that's your

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<v Speaker 2>job to make every event special.

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<v Speaker 1>And and he's in it to win. It's his own wedding.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, everything is going to be special.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know where they're going to get married, but

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<v Speaker 2>I can tell you she comes from a huge family

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<v Speaker 2>and they'll all be their big Italian family.

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<v Speaker 1>That's going to be a fun wedding, Kathy. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the one I'm bringing you two at the end of

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<v Speaker 1>this month is not Italian, so you can't even judge.

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<v Speaker 1>Will there be cocktails, There'll be plenty.

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<v Speaker 2>It'll be fun, It'll be a blast. And who knows,

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<v Speaker 2>mister Wright, maybe they're waiting for me. And Okay, our

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<v Speaker 2>last story we have, Debbie. Okay, this, I have so

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<v Speaker 2>much to say about this. Debbie, Debbie, Debbie, shame, shame, shame.

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<v Speaker 2>Debbie Seabirds reveals she almost got catfished in a dating

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<v Speaker 2>scam and she's telling people to be aware.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, Paul, one second pause, Yeah, the words almost.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, almost, no, no, no. I'm struggling with the fact

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<v Speaker 2>she even got you know, he the guy even got

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<v Speaker 2>ten seconds into it. Debbie, let me first say to you.

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<v Speaker 2>I've told everyone on this podcast. I'm gonna say it again.

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<v Speaker 2>Never give a guy your phone number, anything that's traceable.

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<v Speaker 2>Get yourself a Google phone number. If and WhatsApp, you see,

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<v Speaker 2>my friend is attached to your phone number, So once

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<v Speaker 2>you give that, he can trace you. If you use

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<v Speaker 2>anything other than a Google phone number, you are traceable.

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<v Speaker 1>So you real ask Kathy, you're one of very few

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<v Speaker 1>that use a Google.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, guess what. I've never been catfished. I've never had

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<v Speaker 2>a guy ask me for money.

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<v Speaker 1>Even having your phone number doesn't mean that they're not

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<v Speaker 1>going to do that. You're just lucky you didn't stay

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<v Speaker 1>online for years and years and a year.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen. She said that he wanted to take it to telegram.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even know what that means, but here's just

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<v Speaker 2>what she wrote. I don't know what she meant. She said,

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<v Speaker 2>WhatsApp and telegram. The only thing I get to give

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<v Speaker 2>telegram is to telegraph him some money, but there was

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<v Speaker 2>she said, there was only one picture of him. Come on, Debbie,

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<v Speaker 2>I love you, you're beautiful and you're smart. One picture

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<v Speaker 2>in Italy and you and she goes and he was

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<v Speaker 2>so good looking, which I'm sorry, Susan.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm hard to get every time.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it doesn't. It never gets me and anyone if

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<v Speaker 2>you are almost catfished by a guy who has one

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<v Speaker 2>picture who's asking you to go on to a different app,

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<v Speaker 2>and you're like, oh, he's so good looking. I'm sure

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<v Speaker 2>he's a nice guy. I'm sorry, wake up and smell

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<v Speaker 2>the copper.

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<v Speaker 1>Said flag. Let's switch to this so we can chat.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, exactly and so and.

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<v Speaker 1>Debbie wasn't used to being like she didn't know any better.

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<v Speaker 2>I understand. But here's the thing for me. We are

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<v Speaker 2>of an age where we are responsible for our own

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<v Speaker 2>safety at this point. You know, we don't particularly we

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<v Speaker 2>don't have men, you know, walking blocking the sidewalk for us.

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<v Speaker 2>We are responsible for own safety. If something doesn't smell

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<v Speaker 2>right on the internet, like, hey, can we take this

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<v Speaker 2>on a different platform? Chat right there? Debbie almost catfish

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<v Speaker 2>it would have been cyonara, good bye, see you. And

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<v Speaker 2>in fact, I have a little story that I wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>planning on telling, but I'm going to. I had a

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<v Speaker 2>guy reach out to me. I think I told you this, Susan,

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<v Speaker 2>but this goes along with this. I had a guy

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<v Speaker 2>reach out to me a few weeks ago on Facebook.

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<v Speaker 2>We had some mutual friends, and all his pictures I

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<v Speaker 2>verified him he was right. But we were talking and

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<v Speaker 2>he wanted to go on, you know, on a different

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<v Speaker 2>like to my phone. I said, no, no, we're good here.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's just chat for a little bit longer and then

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<v Speaker 2>I'll give you my phone number. Literally. The next time

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<v Speaker 2>we chatted, maybe the third time, he asked me what

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<v Speaker 2>I would wearing.

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<v Speaker 1>Ew wait, wait.

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<v Speaker 2>I burst out laughing. I texted back, just for giggles,

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<v Speaker 2>tell me why you're asking. I'd love to know. And

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<v Speaker 2>he said, because I haven't heard your voice yet, and

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of want to put a vision of face

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<v Speaker 2>and I look, and I wrote back, you have a face.

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<v Speaker 2>All the pictures are on Facebook. And then you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I did, block and delete so that I wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>almost catfished, like when something doesn't seem right, it's not

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<v Speaker 2>we are responsible.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe just maybe you're smarter than the average bear.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm telling you, Okay, well this is my pso.

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<v Speaker 1>Online and try to date and they get caught up

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<v Speaker 1>for a second in a nice picture. She's not thinking.

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<v Speaker 2>Boom, start thinking.

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<v Speaker 1>It just goes right down that rabbit hole.

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<v Speaker 2>I hear you, but I'm saying, Susan, this is the

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<v Speaker 2>PSA for today. We as women, as single women, as

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<v Speaker 2>adult women, we're at a certain station in life. There's

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<v Speaker 2>people out there. I get texts all the time from

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<v Speaker 2>thirty forty year olds saying, Oh, you're beautiful. I'd love

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<v Speaker 2>to have a relationship with you. Know what I do.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't answer them. I block them. It's we are responsible.

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<v Speaker 2>So if there's one picture of a guy and they're

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<v Speaker 2>usually a little hazy because they've taken that picture of

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<v Speaker 2>they've hijacked that picture from, you know, a different site.

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<v Speaker 2>It is. It is up to us to not quote

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<v Speaker 2>go down a rabbit hole and say, oh, but he

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<v Speaker 2>was so good looking, Debbie, I love you. Call me.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll give you some other safety tips.

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<v Speaker 1>I think twice before it, just pause before you react.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know what, a lot of us have been

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<v Speaker 1>on these and that's the way of the world. But

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<v Speaker 1>isn't it a shame isn't it a shame that there's

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<v Speaker 1>that many ugly people out there that do things like this?

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<v Speaker 2>Susan, The list is very long. It's the list is

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<v Speaker 2>very long of things that are a shame. The irs

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<v Speaker 2>wants their money every year. I got to pay real

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<v Speaker 2>estate taxes. I got to get my car oil change.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of sad things.

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<v Speaker 1>That check today for the school taxes that killed me.

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<v Speaker 2>Along, let's move on.

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<v Speaker 1>Good one for you. Has anybody ever I wish I

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<v Speaker 1>could played hard to get? You know what they say

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<v Speaker 1>in the rule of rules, you know, just pause, make

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<v Speaker 1>them chase you. I don't know how to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>I never did, But that's what we're going to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about today, playing hard to get.

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<v Speaker 2>Well wait a second. First, let me ask you, I

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<v Speaker 2>know the answer. Have you ever played hard to get? No?

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<v Speaker 2>She said, defenditively. No, Ever, I said not the last Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>So I played hard to get when I was younger,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know it was how.

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<v Speaker 1>Young high school? No?

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<v Speaker 2>In high school? Well, you know, I had a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of boyfriends in high school and I played hard to get.

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<v Speaker 1>How did you play hard to get?

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<v Speaker 2>What? I just you know, like they would call me.

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't answer that kind of stuff, say, oh, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I was busy. I was. I had more game then

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<v Speaker 2>than I do now.

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<v Speaker 1>Forgot to let me. Let me stop you for a second.

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<v Speaker 1>And you said that because you really weren't interested in them.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, I really was interested. But I really was interested.

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<v Speaker 2>But when we when I was younger, people always said,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, play hard to get. You'll get the guy

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<v Speaker 2>if you do. Now we've got all these things like

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<v Speaker 2>three day rule, don't call him back for three days,

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<v Speaker 2>don't answer the text. Well, let me say to you,

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<v Speaker 2>I got a lecture from my daughter. Uh. The other day,

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<v Speaker 2>a guy that I had seen a few times came

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<v Speaker 2>down ill and I said, I we just were texting.

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<v Speaker 2>He said he was ill. He was canceling something and

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<v Speaker 2>I said, oh, I'm so sorry to hear that. Can

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<v Speaker 2>I bring you some soup or something? I can just

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<v Speaker 2>leave it. My daughter went had apoplexy. She goes, mom,

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<v Speaker 2>he has not earned the right for you to take

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<v Speaker 2>care of him. And I said to my daughter, Caitlin,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a nice person. I bring soup to friends.

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<v Speaker 1>Nice gesture.

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<v Speaker 2>Well I got I took hell for it. She said,

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<v Speaker 2>Now you're and you know what she might be right.

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't heard from him since then, so who knows.

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<v Speaker 2>But I I think that I hate playing games. And

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<v Speaker 2>some people say, oh, you know it, it adds mystery,

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<v Speaker 2>it makes you look more mysterious if you if you

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<v Speaker 2>do that, I might want.

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<v Speaker 1>To come across too available, and blah blah blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 1>Just say oh no, I can't. I'm busy, but I

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<v Speaker 1>can maybe next week or something. I never understood it,

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<v Speaker 1>because why would I put that off if I am interested?

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<v Speaker 1>To me, that's a game.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't know. But I was talking to him

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<v Speaker 2>with you. I don't either, but it hasn't worked well

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<v Speaker 2>for me recently. I was talking to k about it,

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<v Speaker 2>my good buddy c K. And he was like, Kathy,

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<v Speaker 2>you got to play the game. You got to play the.

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<v Speaker 1>Game, he says. And that's a man saying he did.

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<v Speaker 2>And then he's but then he told me he doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>play games. I was like, uh, you're sending mixed messages here,

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<v Speaker 2>c K. I don't know. All I know is that

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<v Speaker 2>if the men that have been really interested in me,

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<v Speaker 2>it didn't matter if I didn't answer the phone or

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<v Speaker 2>texted right back. They were really interested and and.

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<v Speaker 1>If you get a text, do you like make them

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<v Speaker 1>wait a little?

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<v Speaker 2>A little? I don't answer right that, but but it

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<v Speaker 2>is my question. Yes, but even an hour or two,

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<v Speaker 2>but not I don't wait two or three days. Here's

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<v Speaker 2>my philosophy on playing hard to get. I think that

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<v Speaker 2>if the guy is into you, the games don't matter.

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<v Speaker 2>If he's not that into you, then you can try

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<v Speaker 2>playing games, but he's just not into you, and and

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<v Speaker 2>the roles the same thing, if that's I'm telling you

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<v Speaker 2>and are singing the same song. I think that when

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<v Speaker 2>you're younger and you're first learning how to date. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>when we were in the in the sixties and said,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, when we were kids and we were dating,

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<v Speaker 2>I think then it was learning how to date. And

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<v Speaker 2>I think then you wanted to be seen as really special.

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<v Speaker 2>You wanted that guy. I think. I think that's if

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<v Speaker 2>you will the school of dating that we all went through.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, do I think some of some of it's mysterious

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<v Speaker 1>or they're playing.

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<v Speaker 2>I I'm I'm about as mysterious as a lead pipe.

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<v Speaker 2>So I have no idea. But I do think some

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<v Speaker 2>women I've known, they say that, they'll say, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I want I want to be a little mysterious. I

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<v Speaker 2>want to be a little bit. You know, they're not

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<v Speaker 2>sure what's coming. They have to it's keep them guessing,

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<v Speaker 2>keep them on there.

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<v Speaker 1>I read the books. They all say to do it. So,

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<v Speaker 1>so how about what if you go on a date

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<v Speaker 1>and the man does not reach out for three days?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think that's too long after going out?

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<v Speaker 2>So this happened to me and I said to the guy.

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<v Speaker 1>You will kick him right to the curve. You haven't

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<v Speaker 1>heard from.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I didn't came to the curb. But when we

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<v Speaker 2>had our second date, I said, I was surprised to

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<v Speaker 2>hear from you. And he said what I said, I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't hear from you for like four days after our date,

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<v Speaker 2>And he goes, oh god, no, it's just so busy working.

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<v Speaker 2>I had a great time and we had a great

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<v Speaker 2>second date. Now I haven't heard from again.

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<v Speaker 1>So but are you feeling weren't you feeling that insecure

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<v Speaker 1>kind of moment? Like, oh I thought we had a

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<v Speaker 1>good time.

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<v Speaker 2>I really, it wasn't insecurity. It was not in security, Susan.

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<v Speaker 2>I felt like WTF. It was like WTF, Like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you said again, I'm gonna have this tattooed on my

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<v Speaker 2>forehead next week. Watch what a man does, don't listen

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<v Speaker 2>to what he says. And I and so you know,

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<v Speaker 2>this guy can tell me all day long, how pretty

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<v Speaker 2>I am, how interesting I am, how much funny he has,

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<v Speaker 2>bad bah blah. But if you're not hearing from him,

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<v Speaker 2>if he's not you know, if taking out the trash

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<v Speaker 2>is taking up his time more than sending me a text.

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<v Speaker 1>All you you answered, and you went on a second date.

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<v Speaker 1>That was three days. You waited, so right, But I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 1>what's your limit?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh? You know, honestly, I can tell you I'm but

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<v Speaker 2>I know I'm not hard. I know I come across

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<v Speaker 2>as a hard tough woman. I'm not. I'm a realist.

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<v Speaker 2>It's why I have a Google phone number. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>mess around deal with you.

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<v Speaker 1>Hard and tough. Yes you are.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I'm not. I'm not I look that way. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>a I'm a I'm a if I care about someone,

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<v Speaker 2>a guy.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying that I'm jelly in his hands.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, Well.

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<v Speaker 1>Three days and you're usually you as you said you were,

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<v Speaker 1>WTF and and then boom he calls.

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<v Speaker 2>Or no, I'm I WTF because his actions belied his word.

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<v Speaker 2>His words were, oh my gosh, you're wonderful, You're beautiful,

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<v Speaker 2>but you're so smart. I have a dated woman is smart?

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<v Speaker 2>D oh really, because, like I said, you must be

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<v Speaker 2>having a great time watching the grass grow or backwashing

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<v Speaker 2>your swimming pool because you haven't been reaching out to me.

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<v Speaker 1>And he said that to him.

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<v Speaker 2>No, because here's what happens to me. I'm very different

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<v Speaker 2>from you, Susan, and I don't know, like my standard

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<v Speaker 2>for me, not for everyone. I am very intentional about

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<v Speaker 2>what I say and do. So if he yes, So

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<v Speaker 2>if he reaches back out to me, I'll wait the

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<v Speaker 2>same couple hours, i happen to be going out of

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<v Speaker 2>town and I'm going to say, oh sorry, I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to be out of town for the week. I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>going to say but I'll be back next whatever. In

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<v Speaker 2>other words, I start building up the fence. I was open, wait,

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<v Speaker 2>let me finish. My heart was open. Now I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>sure I can trust you. So now if you're you

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<v Speaker 2>got to earn it back. And he probably doesn't want to,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's fine.

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<v Speaker 1>Now for me, say I'm going to reverse the role. Okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>say somebody's doing that to me, and that's how he

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<v Speaker 1>answered me if I was asking and he didn't leave

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<v Speaker 1>it open that but I will be back da da dad.

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<v Speaker 1>That would give me Okay, well, maybe we'll do it

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<v Speaker 1>when you get back, but when you get it out

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<v Speaker 1>like that, and just I'm going to be out of

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<v Speaker 1>town this week, that sounds to me. And I know

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<v Speaker 1>we shouldn't assume, but that would be My first thought

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<v Speaker 1>would be, well he's not interested.

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<v Speaker 2>Well fair enough. I could say, yeah, okay, I could say, oh, sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to be out of town this week, but

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<v Speaker 2>can you know, but next week I have a few

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<v Speaker 2>open days something like that. I'll be What I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>going to say is I'll be back at six o'clock

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<v Speaker 2>on Sunday night and I'm available Monday.

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<v Speaker 1>At noon pick me up.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah no, And I you know people say if you're

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<v Speaker 2>too available and you know you're too eager, you hurt

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<v Speaker 2>your chances to get the guy. That may it. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>I got to say to you, if it's true, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not going to get the guy, and I'm okay with

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<v Speaker 2>it because I'm not Susan. It's the same reason I

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<v Speaker 2>don't lie about my age or how my husband died,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't lie because if you lie about that, what

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<v Speaker 2>else are you going to lie about it?

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<v Speaker 1>And so do you think back in the day, like

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<v Speaker 1>when people did it then and we heard all those sayings,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if you're too available, they think you don't

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<v Speaker 1>have a life or you don't have anything else going on.

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<v Speaker 1>People would say, no, I had to wash my hair,

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<v Speaker 1>like are you serious?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, that used to be a thing, my sister.

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<v Speaker 1>No.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I will tell you I had two sisters

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<v Speaker 2>that were very popular in high school and they literally

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<v Speaker 2>they just ran through those guys and they did that

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<v Speaker 2>kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, they just were like, well, I think they something.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry at our age, Susan, if we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>flip our hair when you can't. But you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to play.

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<v Speaker 1>Hard to get at sixty nine years old. There adress

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<v Speaker 1>it all together.

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<v Speaker 2>I you know, like I said, my daughter said, Mom,

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<v Speaker 2>you're being too interested. You should look less interested. And

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<v Speaker 2>I said to Caitlin, I, first of all, I'm as

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<v Speaker 2>you well know, I am very picky about who I'll

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<v Speaker 2>go out with because I don't waste time. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not dating guys on the internet who addressed in

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<v Speaker 2>the United States naval uniforms, pretending that he lives in

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<v Speaker 2>Italy for that. Yeah, I'm not doing that. And so

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<v Speaker 2>if if pretending, if I can't be myself, if I

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<v Speaker 2>can't show someone I'm interested and have them not run away,

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<v Speaker 2>well then he's not. He's not meant for me. But

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<v Speaker 2>you see, I'm secure in who I am, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think you are as well. I don't. I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why I don't play that game. Yes, and I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if I'm interested. I'm all in. I'm interested, right,

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<v Speaker 1>so I don't know. I'm going to tell the truth.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm busy. Yeah, I played the game.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I guess. I guess. For me. The weird thing

0:22:10.280 --> 0:22:13.080
<v Speaker 2>has been the guys that have been really interested in me.

0:22:14.600 --> 0:22:17.080
<v Speaker 2>And I thought this guy really was the vibe was

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<v Speaker 2>he he was? It didn't matter if I answered the

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<v Speaker 2>phone or didn't answer the phone. They were calling an

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<v Speaker 2>hour later, Hey are you okay? You didn't pick up

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<v Speaker 2>like they were chasing me. Whether I answered the phone

0:22:26.520 --> 0:22:28.680
<v Speaker 2>or didn't answer the phone, they called me the next morning,

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<v Speaker 2>they would text. It was like they were all.

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<v Speaker 1>In quickly and it didn't matter be But I call

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<v Speaker 1>that being real and what I read and what I

0:22:39.080 --> 0:22:42.560
<v Speaker 1>hear today in the world. You can't. You shouldn't be real.

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<v Speaker 1>You should be so little mysterious, make them wonder, make

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<v Speaker 1>them want you.

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<v Speaker 2>Like okay, So what's the most important, Susan being real,

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<v Speaker 2>being confident, being mysterious.

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<v Speaker 1>Confident and real.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I agree with you, but you know here

0:23:01.280 --> 0:23:01.880
<v Speaker 2>we sit.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's try it a different way.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think we should be mysterious, not answer the

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<v Speaker 2>phone for you know, ten days.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know, Kathy, I gotta tell you a story.

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<v Speaker 2>This is good.

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<v Speaker 1>I tried. I tried. I read all these books, I

0:23:17.440 --> 0:23:20.560
<v Speaker 1>listened to all my friends. Don't be so available. When

0:23:20.600 --> 0:23:23.159
<v Speaker 1>I would have a phone number, and I would really like,

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<v Speaker 1>we went out a couple times, and then he wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>call for a little bit, and I was so anxious

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to text it. I would delete their number.

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<v Speaker 1>I would give it to my cousin and say you

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<v Speaker 1>hold it in case I ever need it. But I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't trust myself because when I think about somebody that

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<v Speaker 1>I like, I'm going to text them. I'm just going

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<v Speaker 1>to say hey, I'm thinking about you or whatever. So

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<v Speaker 1>I would delete the number to try to play this mistakes.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So wait, the guy that we're talking about with

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<v Speaker 2>me where I've not heard from him, you would reach

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<v Speaker 2>out again and text him and say hey or whatever if.

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<v Speaker 1>You would really had a good time and you thought

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<v Speaker 1>there could be some thing between you. He reached out

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<v Speaker 1>the first two times, yes, I would.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, after he said he was sick, and yes.

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<v Speaker 1>And I would have checked up on him the following

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<v Speaker 1>day and said, how you feeling are you? Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>No, uh no? To me, I think my daughter would

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<v Speaker 2>have decapitated me if I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you're thoughtful, but to me that I would think, well,

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<v Speaker 1>she don't even care. If you told somebody you were

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<v Speaker 1>sick and you couldn't go whatever, and they text you

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<v Speaker 1>the next day, just check it in and see how

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<v Speaker 1>you feel like I do with you or you doing

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<v Speaker 1>with me. That is thought. That's nice.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't disagree it's thoughtful. I just don't think people.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think it necessarily means anything to him or

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<v Speaker 2>to some men. And I will tell you back, I

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<v Speaker 2>am assuming, but what I what the last text was

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<v Speaker 2>when I offered to bring him something, he said, no,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm good, thanks so much. I'll let you know if

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<v Speaker 2>I need something that told me leave it alone.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, he didn't need anything, but you could just check

0:24:55.400 --> 0:24:58.159
<v Speaker 1>in and to me checking in to see hey, just

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<v Speaker 1>check it in and see how you're feeling. I hope

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<v Speaker 1>you're feeling better. That is not more than a caring individual.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen, I agree, But I unless he was dead, god forbid,

0:25:12.200 --> 0:25:16.040
<v Speaker 2>and and he's and he's recuperated, I haven't heard from him.

0:25:16.400 --> 0:25:21.520
<v Speaker 2>And I'm a very logical person, So I think about

0:25:21.600 --> 0:25:24.760
<v Speaker 2>his intentions. His intentions were either just to go out

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<v Speaker 2>and have a couple of dates, or he's got a

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<v Speaker 2>stable of him, you know, of women, and I'm I'm

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<v Speaker 2>in the next round. You know, my number hasn't come

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<v Speaker 2>back up again yet, or he's not interested because if

0:25:35.600 --> 0:25:40.240
<v Speaker 2>he's well, if he's better, if he would have reached out.

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<v Speaker 1>How long is it passed? The three days since then?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, and and so and so I'm okay,

0:25:46.440 --> 0:25:50.399
<v Speaker 2>I'm okay with that. I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm a

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<v Speaker 2>little surprised based on what he said. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I read these things that say women they play hard

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<v Speaker 2>to get. They they set these you know, traps for

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<v Speaker 2>men to try to coax them into calling them or

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<v Speaker 2>or getting another date with them. And I'm like, what

0:26:08.760 --> 0:26:12.000
<v Speaker 2>that sounds like a lot of work for nothing. But

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<v Speaker 2>but here's what I really truly believe. Here's what I

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<v Speaker 2>truly believe. Women will go. I don't understand. I don't

0:26:20.320 --> 0:26:23.680
<v Speaker 2>understand what happened. We had such a great time, Ladies,

0:26:24.240 --> 0:26:27.239
<v Speaker 2>don't overthink it. He's just not that into you. And

0:26:27.280 --> 0:26:30.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying that to myself too. There's nothing happened. That's

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<v Speaker 2>the point. Nothing happening. You know what it may be,

0:26:36.240 --> 0:26:42.439
<v Speaker 2>But I think that it's gonna serve me better believing

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<v Speaker 2>that way. And believe me, if I hear from him,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna there's not gonna be any retribution. Wow,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not going.

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<v Speaker 1>Out with you because I chase a guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh just not really. I never had to chase a guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Just one guy, the guy that my love of my

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<v Speaker 2>life in high school. I I after we broke up,

0:27:06.359 --> 0:27:08.080
<v Speaker 2>I was really I kept breaking up with him and

0:27:08.080 --> 0:27:11.399
<v Speaker 2>he kept taking me back. I was an idiot, and

0:27:11.400 --> 0:27:13.640
<v Speaker 2>and then he didn't take me back, and then then

0:27:13.680 --> 0:27:15.480
<v Speaker 2>it was the chase was on to get him. That's

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<v Speaker 2>when I learned my lesson. See that was like I

0:27:18.359 --> 0:27:20.120
<v Speaker 2>was gonna make him work. You know, that's just that's

0:27:20.119 --> 0:27:22.600
<v Speaker 2>what I mean about high school stuff. You know. All right,

0:27:22.680 --> 0:27:25.199
<v Speaker 2>I can't handle this dating talk anymore. I want to

0:27:25.240 --> 0:27:29.920
<v Speaker 2>move on. We are going to do our Golden hotline, which,

0:27:30.720 --> 0:27:33.960
<v Speaker 2>if you loved Susan's in my opinion on playing hard

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<v Speaker 2>to get, you're gonna love our expert golden advice Today.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to know how many out there really do

0:27:40.200 --> 0:27:42.399
<v Speaker 1>the hard to get game. If you do, could just

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<v Speaker 1>send me some notes?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, you know what, text email it we always say,

0:27:46.920 --> 0:27:49.959
<v Speaker 2>you know, reach out on Bachelor Nation dot com slash

0:27:50.000 --> 0:27:52.280
<v Speaker 2>Golden Hour. That's what we want you to do.

0:27:52.480 --> 0:27:56.320
<v Speaker 1>We want to hear, but write to us like I

0:27:56.400 --> 0:27:59.080
<v Speaker 1>want the tips. I want to know how to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna have to spell it out for me, black

0:28:01.119 --> 0:28:04.600
<v Speaker 1>and white for me to try us. And if it fails,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to hate you for it.

0:28:06.160 --> 0:28:09.040
<v Speaker 2>And so if Susan plays hard to get, I'm here

0:28:09.040 --> 0:28:12.600
<v Speaker 2>to tell you I'm going to make homemade French dinner

0:28:12.640 --> 0:28:15.000
<v Speaker 2>for everyone in the world and I don't. All right,

0:28:15.040 --> 0:28:16.440
<v Speaker 2>go on, let's do the first question.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's get to our first one. This is

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<v Speaker 1>from Katie from Portland. Hi, ladies, I met the most

0:28:28.880 --> 0:28:32.919
<v Speaker 1>amazing man last year, and I've honestly never felt this

0:28:33.119 --> 0:28:38.000
<v Speaker 1>compatible with someone before. We have the same sense of humor,

0:28:38.120 --> 0:28:41.719
<v Speaker 1>the same values, and we genuinely make each other happy.

0:28:42.040 --> 0:28:46.800
<v Speaker 1>That's so nice. The only issue is that he absolutely

0:28:47.360 --> 0:28:51.920
<v Speaker 1>wants children, and I don't think I do. We keep

0:28:52.280 --> 0:28:55.240
<v Speaker 1>hoping one of us will change our mind, but neither

0:28:55.320 --> 0:28:59.600
<v Speaker 1>of us have. We love each other enough that neither

0:28:59.640 --> 0:29:02.560
<v Speaker 1>one of us wants to walk away, but we're also

0:29:02.880 --> 0:29:08.360
<v Speaker 1>scared we're delaying the inevitable. Is love enough when your

0:29:08.440 --> 0:29:11.600
<v Speaker 1>future goals don't line up? That's a big one.

0:29:12.080 --> 0:29:17.000
<v Speaker 2>No, this is so easy, This is so easy. If

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<v Speaker 2>hell so, it's two again, I don't to me, this

0:29:20.760 --> 0:29:23.800
<v Speaker 2>answer just comes right to my brain. Katie. If your

0:29:24.080 --> 0:29:29.160
<v Speaker 2>boyfriend wants children, and he knows he wants children, and

0:29:29.240 --> 0:29:32.880
<v Speaker 2>you know you don't, you have two choices. You can

0:29:32.920 --> 0:29:35.440
<v Speaker 2>have one and resent the fact that you had when

0:29:35.480 --> 0:29:39.440
<v Speaker 2>when you didn't want one, or you or and or

0:29:39.680 --> 0:29:41.800
<v Speaker 2>you could get married hoping you'll change your mind, or

0:29:41.800 --> 0:29:44.480
<v Speaker 2>stick with him hoping you change your mind. Here's the problem.

0:29:45.120 --> 0:29:49.360
<v Speaker 2>If you don't change your mind, your core values are

0:29:49.400 --> 0:29:52.480
<v Speaker 2>never going to line up. That is, family values are

0:29:52.520 --> 0:29:55.360
<v Speaker 2>not going to align with your boyfriend. So when you

0:29:55.520 --> 0:29:59.680
<v Speaker 2>say we're scared, we're delaying the inevitable, you're already telling

0:29:59.720 --> 0:30:04.240
<v Speaker 2>me that the inevitable means you are prepared to walk away,

0:30:04.400 --> 0:30:06.880
<v Speaker 2>or he is, or you both are. So if you

0:30:06.920 --> 0:30:10.440
<v Speaker 2>are that adamant, if you're that rigid, if you are

0:30:10.520 --> 0:30:14.040
<v Speaker 2>so resolute in the fact that you do not want children,

0:30:14.440 --> 0:30:17.880
<v Speaker 2>then let them go, because that's not fair to a

0:30:17.920 --> 0:30:20.320
<v Speaker 2>man who wants to have children. Let him go. It

0:30:21.200 --> 0:30:23.760
<v Speaker 2>is if it is the inevitable, because you're not going

0:30:23.840 --> 0:30:26.240
<v Speaker 2>to change your mind, let them go. What do you

0:30:26.280 --> 0:30:26.960
<v Speaker 2>think for me?

0:30:27.000 --> 0:30:30.920
<v Speaker 1>When I read it? She said, She don't think that.

0:30:31.080 --> 0:30:35.920
<v Speaker 1>She doesn't sound one hundred percent that relationship sounds so perfect.

0:30:36.240 --> 0:30:39.440
<v Speaker 1>But it's once again the C word, the communication word.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to have the down to the nitty gritty

0:30:42.880 --> 0:30:46.320
<v Speaker 1>bear I have. What if we get married and we're

0:30:46.360 --> 0:30:50.120
<v Speaker 1>loving our life and I decide there's no way, will

0:30:50.200 --> 0:30:52.640
<v Speaker 1>you resent me? Will you want to end that?

0:30:52.760 --> 0:30:55.160
<v Speaker 2>I don't think you can know that. I don't think

0:30:55.200 --> 0:30:58.560
<v Speaker 2>you can know that. I think someone, she said, I

0:30:58.600 --> 0:31:01.720
<v Speaker 2>don't think I do. But that's just we keep hoping.

0:31:01.760 --> 0:31:04.200
<v Speaker 2>But here's what happens. We keep hoping one of us

0:31:04.240 --> 0:31:07.800
<v Speaker 2>will change our mind, but we haven't sure the possibility

0:31:07.840 --> 0:31:09.440
<v Speaker 2>is there that one of you will change your mind.

0:31:09.600 --> 0:31:12.800
<v Speaker 2>So keep dating and see if being a mother grows

0:31:12.840 --> 0:31:16.080
<v Speaker 2>on you.

0:31:13.560 --> 0:31:20.240
<v Speaker 1>But a lot of women know for a fact that

0:31:20.280 --> 0:31:24.920
<v Speaker 1>they don't want children period. Yeah, and I.

0:31:22.880 --> 0:31:26.800
<v Speaker 2>Mean so do I. But I also respect the fact

0:31:26.840 --> 0:31:29.480
<v Speaker 2>that that the man does. I think it is more

0:31:29.720 --> 0:31:34.680
<v Speaker 2>likely that you, Katie, may change your mind. When a

0:31:34.720 --> 0:31:37.960
<v Speaker 2>guy wants kids, he wants kids, and so I would

0:31:38.000 --> 0:31:39.480
<v Speaker 2>encourage you. I don't know how old you are, but

0:31:39.560 --> 0:31:42.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, if you're in your thirties and he's in

0:31:42.080 --> 0:31:44.880
<v Speaker 2>his thirties, he's going to want a family and he

0:31:45.000 --> 0:31:48.200
<v Speaker 2>can't date you and have a family. So you know,

0:31:48.360 --> 0:31:51.239
<v Speaker 2>that's one of those hard things. I love you. Like

0:31:51.280 --> 0:31:54.640
<v Speaker 2>we talked about in another podcast, love is not enough, Katie.

0:31:54.840 --> 0:31:58.600
<v Speaker 2>If your values don't align, it's not likely going to

0:31:58.600 --> 0:31:59.360
<v Speaker 2>be a good marriage.

0:31:59.400 --> 0:32:02.120
<v Speaker 1>And a lot of times, Kathy, it's the men that

0:32:02.280 --> 0:32:06.280
<v Speaker 1>decide they don't want children and women, you know, they

0:32:06.320 --> 0:32:10.160
<v Speaker 1>do it the dirty way they get pregnant. Anyhow. You know,

0:32:10.440 --> 0:32:13.959
<v Speaker 1>it's something that's big. It is big, and you know what,

0:32:14.000 --> 0:32:17.280
<v Speaker 1>You're right, Katie to ask that question. And I really

0:32:17.320 --> 0:32:20.360
<v Speaker 1>think you should really talk a lot about it and

0:32:20.440 --> 0:32:24.440
<v Speaker 1>do some self searching. Yeah, and you know about it.

0:32:24.480 --> 0:32:26.160
<v Speaker 1>Then you got to be straight with them.

0:32:26.240 --> 0:32:28.200
<v Speaker 2>You got to be straight, and that means letting him

0:32:28.200 --> 0:32:30.320
<v Speaker 2>go so he can find the woman that wants to

0:32:30.320 --> 0:32:32.480
<v Speaker 2>have a family with him. It's a hard thing, but

0:32:32.600 --> 0:32:36.000
<v Speaker 2>that's goals. That's when you. We talked on another podcast,

0:32:36.000 --> 0:32:38.360
<v Speaker 2>Susan about is love enough and you said yes, it isn't.

0:32:38.400 --> 0:32:40.880
<v Speaker 2>I said, no, it isn't. And this is a perfect

0:32:40.960 --> 0:32:43.840
<v Speaker 2>example when love is not enough. I truly believe that

0:32:43.960 --> 0:32:47.240
<v Speaker 2>Katie and her boyfriend love each other, but the resentment

0:32:47.360 --> 0:32:51.440
<v Speaker 2>will grow. He will want a family, so let us know.

0:32:51.960 --> 0:32:56.720
<v Speaker 1>Goode so bad, don't have multiples.

0:32:57.200 --> 0:32:58.920
<v Speaker 2>I can't believe you just told a woman who doesn't

0:32:58.920 --> 0:33:00.640
<v Speaker 2>want children to have children. I'm moving on.

0:33:01.120 --> 0:33:04.160
<v Speaker 1>Okay, they sound so perfect together.

0:33:04.320 --> 0:33:06.239
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, Katie, when you have it and you're not

0:33:06.280 --> 0:33:08.800
<v Speaker 2>real happy having it, send it to Susan because she

0:33:09.160 --> 0:33:12.040
<v Speaker 2>loves at sixty nine, she'd love to raise another child.

0:33:12.080 --> 0:33:14.120
<v Speaker 2>I mean, why not, it's only one Katie?

0:33:14.120 --> 0:33:15.160
<v Speaker 1>Good luck, honey.

0:33:15.400 --> 0:33:18.040
<v Speaker 2>All right, this next question, oh, this is from an

0:33:18.040 --> 0:33:22.640
<v Speaker 2>anonymous We love anonymous questions. Yep, Okay, I've been seeing

0:33:22.680 --> 0:33:25.560
<v Speaker 2>someone for about six months. The only thing that makes

0:33:25.600 --> 0:33:28.280
<v Speaker 2>me uncomfortable is how often he talks to the girl

0:33:28.440 --> 0:33:31.000
<v Speaker 2>before me. He insists they're just friends now and that

0:33:31.040 --> 0:33:34.480
<v Speaker 2>there's absolutely nothing romantic left between them. Would this bother

0:33:34.560 --> 0:33:37.560
<v Speaker 2>you too, bother me? Bother me anonymous?

0:33:37.560 --> 0:33:40.080
<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, bother me, he would.

0:33:40.240 --> 0:33:42.240
<v Speaker 2>It would be deleted, she'd be gone out of his

0:33:42.800 --> 0:33:45.880
<v Speaker 2>out of his contacts. Or I would say, hey, listen,

0:33:45.920 --> 0:33:47.880
<v Speaker 2>you know what, I think you might want to reconsider

0:33:47.920 --> 0:33:50.840
<v Speaker 2>getting engaged. Re engaged to her. I wouldn't put up

0:33:50.840 --> 0:33:51.920
<v Speaker 2>with that for five minutes.

0:33:52.160 --> 0:33:56.160
<v Speaker 1>Ask me where I really you can't let go? I mean,

0:33:56.200 --> 0:33:59.080
<v Speaker 1>you have to talk to them every week. I wonder

0:33:59.120 --> 0:34:02.080
<v Speaker 1>who broke up with, who ended the engagement?

0:34:02.400 --> 0:34:05.600
<v Speaker 2>And do you think I care I would, I could

0:34:05.680 --> 0:34:09.480
<v Speaker 2>care less. I mean this comes under the category of

0:34:09.680 --> 0:34:14.560
<v Speaker 2>when something smells like a dog, looks like a dog,

0:34:14.920 --> 0:34:16.320
<v Speaker 2>a dog, it's a dog.

0:34:17.760 --> 0:34:20.839
<v Speaker 1>And she says it makes me uncomfortable. It would miss

0:34:20.960 --> 0:34:24.880
<v Speaker 1>me off, okay, forget uncomfortable. That would just piss me.

0:34:25.719 --> 0:34:28.239
<v Speaker 2>But you know what, here's the thing that I think

0:34:28.280 --> 0:34:31.600
<v Speaker 2>a lot of women in relationships. You know, she thinks

0:34:31.600 --> 0:34:35.120
<v Speaker 2>he could be the one, so she's trying to play the.

0:34:35.200 --> 0:34:36.720
<v Speaker 1>Dog tries hard.

0:34:38.200 --> 0:34:41.560
<v Speaker 2>This This is called a boundary, and it's a healthy

0:34:41.640 --> 0:34:47.320
<v Speaker 2>boundary to set. And so don't don't sit there saying

0:34:47.600 --> 0:34:48.799
<v Speaker 2>am I being insecure?

0:34:49.120 --> 0:34:52.279
<v Speaker 1>Insecure? If they ran into each other and he was

0:34:52.360 --> 0:34:54.320
<v Speaker 1>nice to her and they chat it for a minute

0:34:54.480 --> 0:34:57.840
<v Speaker 1>or that that I get. That's insecurity that you can't

0:34:57.840 --> 0:35:01.800
<v Speaker 1>stand one time. But this is going on weekly. They

0:35:01.840 --> 0:35:03.719
<v Speaker 1>just hang out and text each other.

0:35:03.840 --> 0:35:07.919
<v Speaker 2>No, okay, he's gonna be or I'm a hard nosed bitch.

0:35:08.040 --> 0:35:12.080
<v Speaker 2>I really I'm hard. That would not make me insecure

0:35:12.120 --> 0:35:15.240
<v Speaker 2>at all. I'd be sitting there going, I'm a queen.

0:35:15.640 --> 0:35:17.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm a queen. I have a friend who says to me,

0:35:18.440 --> 0:35:20.399
<v Speaker 2>climb to the top of the mountain and stand there

0:35:20.400 --> 0:35:21.879
<v Speaker 2>and wait for the guy to come to you. Don't

0:35:21.920 --> 0:35:24.960
<v Speaker 2>don't be. Don't be, you know, don't be repelling down

0:35:25.000 --> 0:35:29.040
<v Speaker 2>the mountain, lowering your standards. This girl, honey, you do

0:35:29.120 --> 0:35:31.840
<v Speaker 2>not need to be insecure about one little thing. What

0:35:32.000 --> 0:35:35.120
<v Speaker 2>he's doing is bad behavior. And I wouldn't put up

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<v Speaker 2>with it for two seconds, not even two seconds.

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<v Speaker 1>So maybe she thinks he could be the one. Does

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<v Speaker 1>he I mean, does he think it? Oh that's a

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<v Speaker 1>great he still talk I don't know about that. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, Anonymous, just don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Let let me say one other thing. You're absolutely right, Susan,

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<v Speaker 2>we don't know if he thinks she's the one. The

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<v Speaker 2>other thing is, uh, they've only been dating for six

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<v Speaker 2>months months, And what do I tell you, Susan, The

0:36:06.120 --> 0:36:10.239
<v Speaker 2>first six months of dating. This is Kathy's rule. The

0:36:10.239 --> 0:36:13.840
<v Speaker 2>first six months of dating anybody is the honeymoon. Everything

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<v Speaker 2>is wonderful. He doesn't burp, he puts his socks in

0:36:16.920 --> 0:36:20.120
<v Speaker 2>the hamper, the sex is great, he brings your flowers.

0:36:20.520 --> 0:36:23.359
<v Speaker 2>That's for the first six months. Never usually never a fight.

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<v Speaker 2>Between six and eighteen months is when the real person

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<v Speaker 2>starts to show who he or she is. Look at

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<v Speaker 2>this guy at eighteen months. At eighteen months, and Susan,

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<v Speaker 2>you can dodge for this, can't you. At eighteen months

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<v Speaker 2>what you see is what you get. So if you

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<v Speaker 2>don't like what you.

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<v Speaker 1>See, it sixty months proof. I am living through it

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<v Speaker 1>as you speak, and that will take up on yet

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<v Speaker 1>another podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's so that you know, that's my advice to you.

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<v Speaker 2>You Russian things. At six months, you can't possibly know

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<v Speaker 2>if he's the one.

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<v Speaker 1>No, you can't though I love this part where girls

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<v Speaker 1>google it, I actually understand this week.

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<v Speaker 2>I love it. All I can say is I love

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<v Speaker 2>answering these questions. I know I seem hard sometimes, but

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<v Speaker 2>I think you and I do give pretty darn good

0:37:10.800 --> 0:37:13.760
<v Speaker 2>golden advice. So if you want some of our advice,

0:37:14.200 --> 0:37:18.840
<v Speaker 2>please please opinions, questions, thoughts send them all to Bachelor

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<v Speaker 2>nation dot com slash Golden Hour. We really want to

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<v Speaker 2>hear from you.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember I told you I actually know some of them

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<v Speaker 1>under I understand the gals google it now.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh you're kidding. Wait, this is the world's coming to

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<v Speaker 2>a first one. Okay. The first one is a body tea,

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<v Speaker 2>and that means a physically attractive, fit or sexy body.

0:37:43.480 --> 0:37:47.400
<v Speaker 2>It's used as a direct compliment to say someone's body

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<v Speaker 2>looks amazing. So like her body tea. That's a short

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<v Speaker 2>way of saying her body is tea, using tea to

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<v Speaker 2>mean hot or good looking. Now, I'm just gonna go

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<v Speaker 2>out on a limb here and say, I have never

0:37:59.560 --> 0:38:02.799
<v Speaker 2>heard anyone talk about my body tea. The only tea

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<v Speaker 2>that they're talking about with me is English morning breakfast tea.

0:38:07.040 --> 0:38:12.839
<v Speaker 2>That's English breakfast teath. I mean seriously, a body tea.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean they use that words. Build the tea, Give

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<v Speaker 1>me the tea, Give me the tea. That sounds like

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<v Speaker 1>some of the ones we've had of the time I've

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<v Speaker 1>questioned you, like, please explain it. The next one is snatched.

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<v Speaker 1>Now that even sounds like, yeah, she's hot, she's got

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<v Speaker 1>it together. That outphit looks so good, right right? Snatch

0:38:34.440 --> 0:38:40.160
<v Speaker 1>being very stylish, attractive, or on point, similar to saying

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<v Speaker 1>an outphit or makeup looks flawless.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I have I've heard it used. I heard that

0:38:52.080 --> 0:38:57.640
<v Speaker 2>word meaning something else when we were younger. Well, body

0:38:57.680 --> 0:39:02.359
<v Speaker 2>part for women snatch, yep, no, without.

0:39:02.120 --> 0:39:04.640
<v Speaker 1>Past tense snatched of course.

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<v Speaker 2>Well it just shows you how pop culture is changing,

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<v Speaker 2>isn't it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, like sharp features like a sharp lifted face, or

0:39:14.480 --> 0:39:16.680
<v Speaker 1>the makeup you know, and the makeup artists do us

0:39:16.680 --> 0:39:21.000
<v Speaker 1>and we feel like supermodels. And have you snatched?

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<v Speaker 2>Have you ever ever said to me, Kathy, you look snatched? Never?

0:39:28.560 --> 0:39:30.759
<v Speaker 1>I would vomit if you didn't know, but I was.

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<v Speaker 1>If I'm Fashion Week or Milan then Paris Fashion Week,

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<v Speaker 1>I say, damn, can use it. But we're old. We

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<v Speaker 1>don't use those words.

0:39:40.320 --> 0:39:43.120
<v Speaker 2>I'm say a minute, I have a sharp I have

0:39:43.160 --> 0:39:45.080
<v Speaker 2>a good jaw line sharp.

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<v Speaker 1>You and your daughter both I'm the same exact.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm snatched. I'm gonna stay with that. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's the thing, pictures of me and I could say

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<v Speaker 1>I was snatched for that moment.

0:39:56.960 --> 0:39:57.480
<v Speaker 2>There you go.

0:39:57.600 --> 0:39:59.279
<v Speaker 1>It was a good angle. It was in the in

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<v Speaker 1>the moment, photographer.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's what I'm going to say to you, it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>so hard to learn these words, to spend the time

0:40:07.600 --> 0:40:10.560
<v Speaker 2>learning them, you know why, because tomorrow they're gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>different to.

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<v Speaker 1>Not even learning them. I won't probably use them, but

0:40:15.920 --> 0:40:18.040
<v Speaker 1>if I hear them, at least i'll know what the

0:40:18.080 --> 0:40:20.440
<v Speaker 1>hell they're talking about. I won't seem like.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to know who comes up with them. Seriously, Jesus,

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<v Speaker 2>I always come back to the movie clueless, isn't it?

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<v Speaker 2>You know? That's not a word? Whatever, fetch fetch, that's

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<v Speaker 2>that's not a thing.

0:40:34.280 --> 0:40:37.799
<v Speaker 1>Like that's when the doll got the ball.

0:40:37.040 --> 0:40:40.160
<v Speaker 2>Right, exactly, go fetch the ball. It wasn't fat but that.

0:40:40.440 --> 0:40:42.600
<v Speaker 2>I love that line in the movie because I'm always like.

0:40:42.640 --> 0:40:44.120
<v Speaker 1>Who, I'm going to stop you?

0:40:44.160 --> 0:40:45.160
<v Speaker 2>Who is mean?

0:40:45.239 --> 0:40:45.640
<v Speaker 1>Girls?

0:40:45.920 --> 0:40:49.720
<v Speaker 2>Damn it? I know it was me and girls. Remember

0:40:49.800 --> 0:40:52.839
<v Speaker 2>she says fetch, it's so fetch, and she goes, it's

0:40:52.840 --> 0:40:56.680
<v Speaker 2>not fetch. That's not a thing. I mean, I'm like, I.

0:40:56.600 --> 0:40:58.840
<v Speaker 1>Say words that my grandchildren look at me. I go,

0:40:58.920 --> 0:41:01.480
<v Speaker 1>do you even know what that means? And they go no, maybe,

0:41:01.719 --> 0:41:03.480
<v Speaker 1>like what what is that? What?

0:41:04.000 --> 0:41:04.400
<v Speaker 2>What do you mean?

0:41:04.400 --> 0:41:09.080
<v Speaker 1>It's so normal for me, like describing something or I

0:41:09.120 --> 0:41:10.759
<v Speaker 1>can't think of it off the top of my head.

0:41:10.840 --> 0:41:13.000
<v Speaker 2>Now I'm just like, you know, it's cool.

0:41:13.480 --> 0:41:16.279
<v Speaker 1>They go, oh, oh yeah, awesome. Cool.

0:41:16.360 --> 0:41:18.719
<v Speaker 2>Those I mean, those are archaic at this point. But

0:41:19.160 --> 0:41:21.879
<v Speaker 2>I just think that people I don't know where these

0:41:21.880 --> 0:41:24.160
<v Speaker 2>come up, where they come up with these titles. But

0:41:24.200 --> 0:41:26.560
<v Speaker 2>here's what I'm telling you, I'm personally, I'm not going

0:41:26.640 --> 0:41:30.359
<v Speaker 2>to bother spending too much time learning them because next

0:41:30.360 --> 0:41:32.360
<v Speaker 2>week it's going to be a whole new set. Next

0:41:32.440 --> 0:41:35.960
<v Speaker 2>year it's going to be a whole new you know, vocabulary.

0:41:36.120 --> 0:41:39.200
<v Speaker 1>It's it's the generational thing, like we know things from

0:41:39.239 --> 0:41:43.839
<v Speaker 1>our generation that like what Faith said earlier about how

0:41:43.840 --> 0:41:46.640
<v Speaker 1>we were raised when she said something about the Playboy channel,

0:41:46.680 --> 0:41:50.840
<v Speaker 1>but and our mothers taught us, yes, you cook, you clean,

0:41:50.960 --> 0:41:53.160
<v Speaker 1>you do the dishes, and you take care of the

0:41:53.239 --> 0:41:56.680
<v Speaker 1>children and sometimes they have part time jobs too, and

0:41:56.719 --> 0:42:02.040
<v Speaker 1>where today's it's com completely different, so of course the

0:42:02.239 --> 0:42:05.520
<v Speaker 1>lingo is going to be completely different. However, Go Go

0:42:05.640 --> 0:42:06.520
<v Speaker 1>Boots came back.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh god, you know I didn't like them the first time.

0:42:09.800 --> 0:42:11.439
<v Speaker 2>I really don't like them. The second time.

0:42:11.440 --> 0:42:12.160
<v Speaker 1>I love them.

0:42:12.280 --> 0:42:14.440
<v Speaker 2>I know you do. I'm just sticking with my cowboy boots.

0:42:14.560 --> 0:42:16.720
<v Speaker 2>That's what I you know, the difference.

0:42:16.760 --> 0:42:20.200
<v Speaker 1>It's the same boot cats, same length boot Anyhow.

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<v Speaker 2>I learned these for about two seconds and I'm like, yeah,

0:42:22.200 --> 0:42:23.960
<v Speaker 2>except snatched. I didn't know what that one.

0:42:24.040 --> 0:42:26.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that one I knew. And body tea I kind

0:42:26.719 --> 0:42:29.440
<v Speaker 1>of got it. That's like a guy thing would say.

0:42:30.480 --> 0:42:34.280
<v Speaker 2>I don't think a girl would say it, wouldn't they.

0:42:33.600 --> 0:42:37.160
<v Speaker 1>No guy, I think somebody sexy.

0:42:37.960 --> 0:42:39.960
<v Speaker 2>I think a girl would use it with another girl.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, what do I know. I don't have body tea,

0:42:45.200 --> 0:42:51.520
<v Speaker 2>so I'm never using that word. Thanks everybody for joining

0:42:51.640 --> 0:42:55.040
<v Speaker 2>us on Bachelor or Golden Hour. We had such a

0:42:55.040 --> 0:42:58.440
<v Speaker 2>fun time, and now I know that Sin is Narboll Snatched.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, I can't say body tea anymore. I take a

0:43:04.480 --> 0:43:08.160
<v Speaker 1>good picture sometimes. With that being said, please make sure

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