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Speaker 3: Doug McIntyre in for John and Cannon. I'm here till

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Speaker 3: four o'clock today when Tim Conway Junior comes along later

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Speaker 3: on this hour. What is Mississippi getting right? The California

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Speaker 4: So we'll get into that story as well.

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Speaker 3: Much more to say about the death, at least we

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Speaker 3: believe the death. If you've got a progoes in the

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Speaker 3: head of the Wagner group who led that rebellion against

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Speaker 3: the Russian military establishment a couple months ago and did

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Speaker 3: not please Vladimir Putin, and he has now come down

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Speaker 3: with a bad case of plane crash that happened earlier today,

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Speaker 3: and we'll talk about that in just a bit. But tonight,

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Speaker 3: closer to home, much closer to home, Iowa, the gop

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Speaker 3: Field minus President former President Trump will be on the

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Speaker 4: To talk to us about that.

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Speaker 3: ABC News correspondent Andy Field, Andy, how are you well.

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Speaker 5: I'm good. We got some breaking news first, and that

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Speaker 5: is federal judges just just denied mister Trump's former chiefs

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Speaker 5: of Staff Mark Meadow's emergency motion he wanted to remove

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Speaker 5: himself from the Fulton County case to a federal court.

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Speaker 5: Judge denied. Meadows did to prohibit his arrests. So if

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Speaker 5: he doesn't show up, he may be one of the

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Speaker 5: only defendants actually handcuffed and thrown in jail. We'll see

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and of course, Rudy Giuliani turned himself in in

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Speaker 3: Georgia today and posed for his mug shot unsmiling mugshot photo.

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Speaker 3: It's still unclear whether or not former President Trump was

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Speaker 3: supposed to at least we believe is going to turn

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Speaker 3: actually have to take the mugshot. There have been reports

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Speaker 3: going both ways on that.

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Speaker 5: Well. The sheriff a couple of weeks ago said he

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Speaker 5: invited the former president to come down those We've got

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Speaker 5: a mugshout waiting for you. So I can't imagine why

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Speaker 5: they would treat him any.

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Speaker 1: Differently in this anyway.

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Speaker 3: He will be obviously not at the debate tonight in Iowa,

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Speaker 3: but for some of the candidates he will be there.

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Speaker 3: We assume that Chris Christie and and Asa Hutchinson both

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Speaker 3: have carved out the anti Trump position in the field.

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Speaker 3: Mike Pence has got to try to split Hairson somehow

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Speaker 3: and win over Trump supporters. At the same time the

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Speaker 3: Trump supporters were yelling, hang Mike Pence, that's not going

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Speaker 3: to be any easy trick. And then there's Ron DeSantis,

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Speaker 3: so he's kind of fighting for his political survival here.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Ron DeSantis would be best to show up in

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Speaker 5: a suit packed with candy today because he is going

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Speaker 5: to be the human pinata. They are going to beat

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Speaker 5: him mercilessly to knock his ratings down, and they're not

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Speaker 5: particularly high to begin with, but he's seems to be

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Speaker 5: running second to Donald Trump. And then of course Vivic Ramaswami,

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Speaker 5: who I would venture to guess about a single person

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Speaker 5: because he's very Trump like in terms of his fealty

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Speaker 5: to Vladimir Putin. And being a tough guy on the

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Speaker 5: international stage. He is not criticized Donald Trump. In fact,

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Speaker 5: he said in his first day in office he would

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Speaker 5: parton Donald Trump. Mike Pens, as you mentioned, hasn't shown

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Speaker 5: then you've got Tim Scott Asa Hutchinson as you mentioned.

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Speaker 5: And then here's the guy who's getting all the attention

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Speaker 5: today for someone who almost didn't get into this thing.

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Speaker 5: It was North Dakota Governor Doug Bergham. He was playing

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Speaker 3: Does tonight Andy Field, as well as ABC News correspondent

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Speaker 3: the Debate tonight, of course. And you know, here's the

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Speaker 3: And also, if they find somebody who checks a demographic

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Speaker 3: So I think somebody like Nicki Haley is really running

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Speaker 5: It's interesting people who aren't even on the stage would

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Speaker 5: like that job.

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Speaker 1: Including Larry Elder or Marjorie Taylor Green.

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Speaker 5: Marjorie Taylor Green of Georgia has openly campaigned for the job,

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Speaker 5: even though she's not going to be on the stage.

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Speaker 5: First of all, Donald Trump's going to win one of

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Speaker 5: these primaries. He didn't win the Iowa primary the last time.

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Speaker 5: Around the caucuses, we don't know how well he'll do

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Speaker 5: Pauling's one thing, but you actually have to get voters

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Speaker 5: to the blues and pick your name.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And of course there's a huge difference in the

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Speaker 3: So I don't know how many people in the GOP

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Speaker 3: want to stand up and say that they're not voting

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Speaker 3: for Donald Trump given the loyalty oaths. Essentially, if you

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Speaker 3: hundred percent, you're a rhino, you're a heretic. It's not

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Speaker 3: quite the point where you got to be careful what

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Speaker 3: your stock falls precipitously, which is what makes the Chris

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Speaker 3: Christy and the ASA Hutchinson positions so interesting, because especially

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Speaker 3: Christy Christy seems to be really on a seek and

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Speaker 3: Clinton in Donald Trump's twenty sixteen debate prep when he

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Speaker 3: much damage to Donald Trump as possible. And as you mentioned, Andy,

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Speaker 3: it's working for him in New Hampshire, it is.

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Speaker 5: Working for him. There's probably a good chunk of the

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Speaker 5: the Republican Party is still a solid at least forty

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Speaker 5: the party that say that they will support Donald Trump

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Speaker 5: no matter what, no matter how many indictments he has.

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Speaker 5: So we're in kind of an upside down world and

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Speaker 5: it'll be interesting to see how the voting comes about

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Speaker 5: and really what the reaction from the audience listening to

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Speaker 3: The crowded field works to Donald Trump's advantage because this

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Speaker 3: is how he got the nomination. In twenty sixteen, there

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Speaker 3: this time, obviously, he's got much more competitive advantage because

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Speaker 3: fascinatingly watch what happens to night. Andy, Thank you so

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Speaker 3: much for being with us. Appreciate it. Another very big

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Speaker 3: story of the day, of course, was the apparent death

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that is so scary, right because we can all

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Speaker 7: where you where you use those machines as well? I

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Speaker 3: This is this is the kind of story that gives

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Speaker 3: you can kill people. Yeah, and now it's very rare.

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Speaker 3: And but once they start to once I start seeing

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Speaker 3: And I'm fine with that because I don't eat salads.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think you do need to worry.

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Speaker 3: Because you've never have we ever done a story you've

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Speaker 3: been in a newsgame. How long have you ever done

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Speaker 3: No, say, that's what I'm just saying. The expiration date

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Speaker 3: is like twenty seven. This is not the preservatives exactly.

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Speaker 3: You are what you eat. You eat preservatives and you're preserved.

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Speaker 3: Saves lives. There were no lives saved on that flight

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Speaker 3: And this is where I don't know that there's any

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Speaker 3: in bell Air. They came here and they're living in crowded,

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Speaker 3: cheap apartments, sometimes the illegal garage conversions, et cetera, et cetera.

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Speaker 3: And you all know those stories. But guess what happens

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Speaker 3: to the people who are already living in those places.

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Speaker 3: They are priced out of the most affordable housing in

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Speaker 3: the area.

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Speaker 4: Because that's what happens. A rising tide lifts all boats.

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Speaker 3: And if there is a housing crunch for low cost,

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Speaker 3: the most affordable housing in the market, and you have

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Speaker 3: a huge number of people or in the country illegally,

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Speaker 3: they're not moving to bel Air, they're not moving to Calabasas,

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Speaker 3: They're not you know, they're moving to the places where

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Speaker 3: the cheapest housing stock is. But there's competition for that

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Speaker 3: housing stock amongst people who are working, So the prices

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Speaker 3: go up, and now the people who were living in

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Speaker 3: those units of housing are priced to the streets. Now again,

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Speaker 3: that's not everybody. This is not explaining why everybody's on

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Speaker 3: the streets. But my point in bringing up this unpalatable

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Speaker 3: subject for the political climate of southern California in a

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Speaker 3: heavily democratic state, is this, if you're really serious about

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Speaker 3: dealing with the homeless crisis, and I hope you are

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Speaker 3: serious about it, because it's unacceptable. It's a humanitarian disaster,

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Speaker 3: and it's an embarrassment. It just shouldn't be this way.

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Speaker 3: But if you're really serious in dealing with the issue,

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Speaker 3: you've got to deal all the cards face up. You

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Speaker 3: have to look at all the contributing factors to it

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Speaker 3: and not just cherry pick the ones that are palatable

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Speaker 3: to you that advance your personal agenda or the agendas

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Speaker 3: of your benefactors, meaning the developers and the people who

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Speaker 3: are getting rich building quote unquote affordable housing at seven

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Speaker 3: hundred thousand dollars a unit. All Right, you got to

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Speaker 3: deal with all of the issues, and you got to

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Speaker 3: drop your political correctness in your nonsense because this is unacceptable,

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Speaker 3: and yet somehow we seem to accept it. In Mississippi,

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Speaker 3: they got tons of cheap units of housing available, so

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Speaker 3: it's relatively easy for them to sweep people off the

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Speaker 3: streets and get a house, get them a roof over

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Speaker 3: their heads. Very hard to do that in the place

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Speaker 3: where the average price of a home is a million dollars.

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Speaker 6: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI

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Speaker 6: AM six.

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Speaker 4: Forty Doug mcatar In for John and Ken.

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Speaker 3: It's been fun being here for three days, and I

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Speaker 3: want to make sure I thank producer Dana and Ray Lopez,

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Speaker 3: as well as Eric and Debora Mark and Michelle Q.

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Speaker 3: Kelly for helping me out. And mister Conway will be

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Speaker 3: here at four o'clock. I hear rumors that he's in

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Speaker 3: the building. Who knows when he shows up. He probably

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Speaker 3: shows up at what three p fifty nine fifty Yeah,

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Speaker 3: just breezes in here, paramutual tickets fluttering out of his

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Speaker 3: pockets and maybe he will Deane to make an appearance

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Speaker 3: before I sign off and slide down the dinosaur for

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Speaker 3: the day. Reminder again to have this book called Frank's Shadow,

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Speaker 3: and if you don't buy it, I'm gonna have like

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Speaker 3: ten thousand of them in my living room. So they're

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Speaker 3: at Amazon dot com and Barnes Andoble dot com. And

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Speaker 3: if you want to get a signed, you're very unsigned copy,

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Speaker 3: you can get a copy at Doug McIntyre dot com

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Speaker 3: and as John Pitzarelli says, buy in bulk. And speaking

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Speaker 3: of John Pitcarelli, the great Virtuoso will be at Catalina's

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Speaker 3: this weekend Friday, Saturday and Sunday, and that's where I'll

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Speaker 3: be because man, that's a great act and really funny,

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Speaker 3: amazing music. So come on out and say hello. Okay,

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Speaker 3: so I saw this story. I don't know how this happens,

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Speaker 3: but you almost really need to see the picture.

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Speaker 4: You can find it online easy.

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Speaker 3: A woman in Texas was nearly killed when someone threw

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Speaker 3: a spear through her windshield when she was driving on

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Speaker 3: the highway. She was on the I ten in San

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Speaker 3: Antonio around nine point thirty and someone chucked a spear,

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Speaker 3: I mean, like right out of a Tarzan movie or

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Speaker 3: something at a Zulu right a five foot spear came

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Speaker 3: right through the passenger side of her car. So she

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Speaker 3: dodged that bullet and timm. You know about porch pirates, right,

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Speaker 3: the steel packages. You're getting your stuff stolen all the time, right.

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Speaker 1: Once in a while, Yeah yeah, yeah, O you go out.

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Speaker 4: And steal some stuff, right. This guy and Georgia stole

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Speaker 4: the porch.

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Speaker 1: Wow, that guy's great.

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Speaker 4: He's an actual porch pilot.

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Speaker 1: That's great.

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Speaker 4: Pirate not pilot.

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Speaker 1: He took the whole port.

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Speaker 4: He took the porch off off.

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Speaker 3: Someone's left the back package eight foot by ten foot

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Speaker 3: wooden porch whew, worth three thousand dollars.

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Speaker 1: Wow, I know I got a good deal.

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Speaker 4: Well, you like the truth in advertising?

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Speaker 1: That's right. The guy lived right.

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Speaker 2: You know a lot of people don't know this by

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Speaker 2: you worked on a very funny show called w r

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Speaker 2: KRP in Cincinnati.

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Speaker 4: That's correct.

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Speaker 2: And for the last twenty years I've attributed the turkey

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Speaker 2: episode where they threw turkeys out of the helicopter to you,

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Speaker 2: and that during the commercial break, you told me that

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Speaker 2: you didn't write that.

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Speaker 4: I didn't write that. Now, Bill Dial wrote that episode?

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Speaker 1: And why did you ever? You never?

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Speaker 4: I I wasn't listening.

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Speaker 1: No, I mean no, I didn't know that. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: the list.

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Speaker 4: I didn't know that that you were giving me credit.

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Speaker 1: I gave you credit for twenty years of writing that.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know I've listened over the course of twenty years,

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Speaker 3: but I can't say that I listened to every man?

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Speaker 1: Right, Okay? Who wrote that episode? Bill Dial? Bill Dial

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Speaker 1: no longer with us, very funny man.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know I played softball with Fred Fox Junior

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Speaker 3: and he wrote the Jump the Shark episode of Happy Days?

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Speaker 1: Is that right?

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Speaker 5: Yes?

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Speaker 4: He wrote he where Phonsie jumps the shark.

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Speaker 2: What I mean, Look that that might be the most

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Speaker 2: famous episode ever.

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Speaker 3: Well, let's put it this way. It added a phrase

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Speaker 3: to the lexicon right of America.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and for for young people who have no idea

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Speaker 2: what this is. Happy Days did an episode where Fons

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Speaker 2: was going to take a motorcycle and jump over a shark.

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Speaker 8: No, no, it was it was water skiing. Yeah, right, yeah, right,

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Speaker 8: water skiing, jump over a shark. That's right, that's right,

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Speaker 8: that's right. And that's when the show lost it for

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Speaker 8: a lot of people.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well that it became the definition of when it's

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Speaker 3: gone too far. But as Gary Marsh used to say,

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Speaker 3: you know, you're in year fourteen, You've done two hundred

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Speaker 3: and twenty episodes. They were breeding for plots. They had

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Speaker 3: just having Joni and Chachi having babies.

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Speaker 2: Well, I remember watching Chips was of my favorite shows

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Speaker 2: growing up, and I remember watching the episodes of Chips,

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Speaker 2: and they filmed it on the one eighteen freeway here

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Speaker 2: they were building that, right, Yeah, when they're building a freeway,

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Speaker 2: So they filmed the whole thing on the freeway. The

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Speaker 2: second episode, the A story in the second episode, not

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Speaker 2: the B story. The A story in the second episode,

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Speaker 2: somebody was stealing plants off the shoulder of the freeway.

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Speaker 2: That's gonna be trouble for a season. Oh, that could

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Speaker 2: be a that could be real tough for a season. Hey,

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Speaker 2: that was second episode.

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Speaker 4: It must have worked because they kept making them.

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Speaker 1: I guess. I guess man, I enjoyed that.

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Speaker 4: The bad television. My resume is where you start.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I worked for a show called High Tide and some

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Speaker 2: actor was screwing up over and over and over, and

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Speaker 2: I had my resume with me. I said, hey, you

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Speaker 2: recognize anything in my resume and he looks at me, goes,

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Speaker 2: I don't recognize anything, he said, because it's all crap.

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Speaker 2: All I produced in TV is crap. And I know crap.

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Speaker 2: I see it. You're giving us crap.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I remember you telling the owners of a production

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Speaker 3: company when they sent you to Toronto and asked you

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Speaker 3: what should be done with the show.

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Speaker 4: You said, Uh, sell the furniture.

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Speaker 2: Fire everybody, sell the furniture. You're not going to make

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Speaker 2: any money out of this. Everybody here is horrible what

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Speaker 2: they do.

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Speaker 4: Are you doing a show?

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Speaker 1: That's where we met on the Toronto show.

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Speaker 4: Exactly what are you doing a show here?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 4: We don't have time to talk about it.

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Speaker 3: Hey, thanks down to Dinosaur I go to You're up next,

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Speaker 3: tig Dog.

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Speaker 1: Hey, you've been listening to The John and Ken Show.

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Speaker 2: You can always hear us live on KFI AM six

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Speaker 2: forty one pm to four pm every Monday through Friday,

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Speaker 2: and of course, anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app