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Speaker 1: Welcome into the Minnesota Vikings Podcast. I'm your host Tatum

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Speaker 1: Everett from the Vikings Entertainment Network, and the Vikes are

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Speaker 1: back home this weekend when they welcome the three to

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Speaker 1: nine Washington Commanders. Minnesota is looking to snap a four

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Speaker 1: game losing streak and return to the win column, and

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Speaker 1: I'm pretty excited about today's show. Vikings radio analyst Pete

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Speaker 1: Burstch joins the program to give us a breakdown into

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Speaker 1: Sunday's matchup. Plus, we've got artists to the athletes, Dan Gamash,

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Speaker 1: who you may know as Maash. He'll talk about his

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Speaker 1: journey from being an athlete himself to now customizing shoes

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Speaker 1: and cleats for the Stars. But first let's hear from

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Speaker 1: Vikings head coach Kevin O'Connell. He spoke to the media

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Speaker 1: on Wednesday about what needs to happen on the field

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Speaker 1: Sunday to return to their winning ways.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think it's important when you talk about what it's

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Speaker 3: going to take to win a game and coincides with

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Speaker 3: getting the you know, the quote unquote train back on

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Speaker 3: the tracks. Is we got to stop doing things to

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Speaker 3: lose games before we get ourselves a chance to win

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Speaker 3: them and sometimes it might not be as catastrophic as

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Speaker 3: a turnover play, but those are certainly in the you know,

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Speaker 3: in the ledger of things that that lose games. Sometimes

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Speaker 3: it's an early you know, you may play a really good,

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Speaker 3: complete game, but your one play is on a fourth

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Speaker 3: you know, not in an even fifty to fifty game

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Speaker 3: or trailing. And then special teams with the role they

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Speaker 3: play in that one play phase of as we've seen

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Speaker 3: at times this year, to maybe kickstart some momentum, they're

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Speaker 3: their one play phase. So it's a lot of things

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Speaker 3: like that. And then it's just understanding that, you know,

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Speaker 3: we are in the midst of troubling, troubling times, but

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Speaker 3: how we handle these times and how you show the

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Speaker 3: ability to persevere through these times are what you know,

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Speaker 3: kind of the path moving forward will be forged upon,

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Speaker 3: you know, whether that's decisions that are made, whether that's

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Speaker 3: ultimately what this kind of organization and our roster and

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Speaker 3: our staff and things, all those things like, we're in

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Speaker 3: a moment now where we need to all respond the

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Speaker 3: right way together and we've got the leadership to do it,

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Speaker 3: we've got the players to do it, and it talking

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Speaker 3: about it gets you to a certain point, but then

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Speaker 1: Now, it's time to welcome in Pete Bursett. You hear

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Speaker 1: him on the radio call each in every Vikings game. Pete,

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Speaker 1: what is happening? How's it going?

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Speaker 4: It's going challenging times, but yeah, they're not going to

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Speaker 4: cancel the rest of them.

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Speaker 2: So you got.

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Speaker 4: To just keep incrementally improving on things, doing the best

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Speaker 4: this thing around against a Washington commander's team that's you know,

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Speaker 4: they're they're they're struggling in spots too, So we'll see

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Speaker 4: how this one turns out for sure.

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Speaker 1: Well, k I was just saying, it's one thing to

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Speaker 1: talk about a tough time, but another to go out

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Speaker 1: and make those incremental changes. As you mentioned, how difficult

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Speaker 1: is that to do when you are in such a

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Speaker 4: It's very difficult just in this regard. The job is

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Speaker 4: hard enough as it is right week in and week out.

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Speaker 4: It's hard enough to win, uh and do the extra

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Speaker 4: work to push through things when you just don't feel

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Speaker 4: it makes it that much it makes it that much tougher,

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Speaker 4: of team. You know, for the defense, like we saw

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Speaker 4: last week, they went out and played, you know, they

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Speaker 4: very closely the attitude of those guys that they just

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Speaker 1: One player I guess on the defense who has been

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Speaker 1: a bright spot is Dallas Turner feels like he's really

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Speaker 1: coming into his own now second year with the Vikings,

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Speaker 1: He's had a sack now in three straight games. Last

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Speaker 4: What's interesting I think with Dallas is I think he's

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Speaker 4: definitely taken advantage of the increased amount of playtime between

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Speaker 4: have no choice, all right, He's out there and he's

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Speaker 4: leans heavily on the outside linebackers for what they do,

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Speaker 4: it's not easy to do. I think he's probably playing

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Speaker 4: I'm seeing is he's just he's just reading faster. Things

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Speaker 4: are starting to make sense. And this comes with playtime, right,

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Speaker 4: This comes with reading keys, and Burnant Floras said it earlier.

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Speaker 4: He's doing the little things right, and that's why the big,

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Speaker 4: all all those things put you in position to make plays.

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Speaker 4: And because he's such a good athlete, he can probably

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Speaker 4: of comes with the surety of what you're doing right.

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Speaker 4: There's nothing worse than being out there on the field

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Speaker 4: doing and what's going on right. It's it's a really

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Speaker 4: it's a horrible feeling when you're kind of like, oh God,

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Speaker 4: huddle call, for example, or whatever. He is. He looks

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Speaker 4: a lot more sure of himself when he's seeing what

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Speaker 4: it's a whole it's a whole bunch of things, a

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Speaker 4: And but man, he's such a he's such a talent.

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Speaker 4: He's so fast, so explosive. Uh, if this trend continues, Uh,

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Speaker 4: And and you know he's he he's a guy like

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Speaker 4: has to continue to do everything he can do right

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Speaker 4: because we need to know going in next year and

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Speaker 4: to elevate themselves. So that process goes on every day.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, Dallas Turner has been has been uh fantastic,

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Speaker 4: that time on the field, the growing pains going through

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Speaker 1: So when we talk about the next opponent, it's the Commanders.

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Speaker 1: They had a really tough game last week against the Broncos.

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Speaker 1: They seem to be far from where they were last

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Speaker 1: I know you've been watching some film on them this

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Speaker 4: I think the offense in order to run the ball well.

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Speaker 4: There's an opportunity here to really run the ball well

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Speaker 4: and be efficient. And when you do that, you can

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Speaker 4: take some you can take some pressure off of the

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Speaker 4: passing game. Right, you're not throwing the ball thirty five

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Speaker 4: forty times. But you got to keep you got to

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Speaker 4: keep this defensive group on the field, all right, Eddie Oldman.

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Speaker 4: We're familiar with Javon Kinlaw. They've got some guys in

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Speaker 4: They're good, but they're they're not the group that we

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Speaker 4: I think from a from a defensive backfield standpoint, they're

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Speaker 2: Uh, they're not.

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Speaker 4: They're they're not great. There's no one out there that

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Speaker 4: opportunity offensively for you know, for us, it's not gonna

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Speaker 4: be a cakewalk by any means. But at the same time,

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Speaker 4: foreman front, most of the time we have more success

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Speaker 4: I think against that. Just keep this veteran defense, especially

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Speaker 4: the field, and I think successful. You know, those those

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Speaker 4: three four yard runs will eventually become more.

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Speaker 2: And and.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think this is our best shot at putting

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Speaker 1: Mean you can't take the you have to get rid

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Speaker 1: of the negative place. To get rid of the we

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Speaker 1: got to quit.

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Speaker 2: Turn the ball over.

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Speaker 4: I mean that's the think, you know, first and foremost,

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Speaker 4: that's you know, what's killing us, and so we can't

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Speaker 4: be we can't be doing that. And if you can

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Speaker 4: just maintain possession, even if you're three and out, and

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Speaker 4: pump the ball and flip the field and do those

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Speaker 4: things consistently, you're gonna make it tougher on this Commander's offense.

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Speaker 4: You know, not knowing who's going to be a quarterback,

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Speaker 4: they have a very good running game. They're number three

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Speaker 4: you got guys like Jacorey Krossky Merritt, and Chris Rodriguez.

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Speaker 4: Chris Rodriguez is a is a north and south type

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Speaker 4: If you don't stop though, if you don't stop the

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Speaker 1: So and also if you want a little bit more

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Speaker 1: on the Commanders, you can check out Pete's film breakdown

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Speaker 1: Welcome back into the Minnesota Vikings Podcast. I'm Tatum Everett.

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Speaker 1: The Vikings return to US Bank Stadium on Sunday, hosting

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Speaker 1: Oh how many how many requests for might cause my

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Speaker 1: I feel like you probably get attached to some of

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Speaker 2: Sure, are you refer into cleats or just custom sneakers

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Speaker 1: You know, let's do We'll do cleats and then we'll

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to think of other cleats. Me and Steff

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Speaker 2: and whatever. It's it's still great. But obviously as a

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Speaker 2: as a guy who's a fine arts who can paint

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Speaker 2: I'd love to still do the art stuff and get

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Speaker 2: a little nostalgic and whatever, but you just it's part

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Speaker 2: of the job. You navigate and keep everyone comfortable and

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Speaker 2: happy because you know people are you know, some people

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Speaker 2: You know, it is what it is.

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Speaker 1: Well, Marsh, thank you so much for your time. We

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Speaker 1: really appreciate getting to know you a little bit better.

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Speaker 1: We've seen your art for years, love everything that you do,

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Speaker 1: so thank you so much, and thanks for being a

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Speaker 2: Oh, thank you and hopefully hopefully we turn on the

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Speaker 2: rest of the season.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so how much do both our guests Mash

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