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Speaker 2: Live Nation. Okay, I want to talk to Sam. Sam,

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Speaker 2: you and your husband you never fight. You've never fought.

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Speaker 3: We've definitely had small arguments, but so many of them

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Speaker 3: have have not happened because of how we try to

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Speaker 3: prevent them and so like we've never had a full

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Speaker 3: out screaming match at each other. We've never you know,

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Speaker 3: said horrible things to each other in the middle of

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Speaker 3: a fight. Like do we sometimes have the occasional you know,

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Speaker 3: we walk around each other and don't talk, maybe for

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Speaker 3: a couple minutes. But I mean, we just do a

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Speaker 3: really good job of preventively avoiding the arguments from communicating.

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Speaker 2: Because as a guy who's conflict avoidant, right, like, I

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Speaker 2: don't like to get a knockdown drag outs. And it's

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Speaker 2: not because I don't know if you should or shouldn't.

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Speaker 2: It's that I find that when you when it gets

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Speaker 2: to that point, especially if someone feels like they're behind

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Speaker 2: in the argument, then things start to shift into an

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Speaker 2: area they don't need to go. And maybe it's because

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Speaker 2: I grew up and my mom, as amazing as she is,

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Speaker 2: she was the person who would she'd go for the jugular,

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Speaker 2: like if she wanted the argument to end, she'd say

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Speaker 2: the thing that had nothing to do with anything, and

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Speaker 2: then it's like, oh and the argument's over. You win,

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Speaker 2: But then you got to walk back the thing that

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Speaker 2: you said that had nothing to do with the thing.

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Speaker 2: Which is why I think I'm conflict avoidant and I

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Speaker 2: don't get into I try not to get in fights

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Speaker 2: like that because it winds up you have to undo

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Speaker 2: the fight before you get back to the issue, which

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Speaker 2: I hate. However, I'm not sure that my way is

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Speaker 2: healthy where you never have the fight and I get

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Speaker 2: you know, yes, in a perfect world, it's like you, guys, Sam,

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Speaker 2: where it's just you know, you're able to have this

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Speaker 2: sort of discipline to know when to separate and to

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Speaker 2: know how to argue and to know how to debate,

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Speaker 2: but really never a big fight.

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Speaker 1: No.

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Speaker 3: But I think it also comes down to him and

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Speaker 3: I both had really toxic relationships before this, where like

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Speaker 3: we did fight with prior you know, partners, and so

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Speaker 3: now that we've seen how horrible it gets, we knew

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Speaker 3: right off the bat that we didn't want to repeat that,

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Speaker 3: especially in front of our daughter.

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Speaker 1: And so we've we've done a.

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Speaker 3: Lot of you know, communicating, talking how do we fix this?

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Speaker 3: And you know, do I want to punch him in

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Speaker 3: the face once in a while, one hundred percent, But

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Speaker 3: we learned that that's not really the right way to

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Speaker 3: do it, and it's it's worked out really well for us.

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Speaker 1: So good for you guys. Thank you, Sam, have a

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Speaker 1: good day.

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Speaker 4: Thanks you guys.

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Speaker 1: Do love you guys, Thank you for listening.

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Speaker 2: I mean, who am I to be? I may give

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Speaker 2: that relationship advice every day, and who am I to

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Speaker 2: do it? But I'm the first admit I'm not very

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Speaker 2: good at any of that. But I don't know. Maybe

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Speaker 2: for me, this story jumps out because as happy as

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Speaker 2: I am about the Travis Kelcey and Taylor Swift thing,

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Speaker 2: there's just no doubt in my mind, he's along for

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Speaker 2: the ride. And that's not to say she doesn't bring

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Speaker 2: him a lot in the relationship and that she hasn't

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Speaker 2: changed his life in a positive way in many ways,

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Speaker 2: I'm sure, but I contend that he's one of those

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Speaker 2: guys that just smiles ah, and it's just in awe

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Speaker 2: of her all the time, and that makes me nervous.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he's happy to be there.

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Speaker 2: There's a difference between it being happy to be there

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Speaker 2: and and cowering. There's a difference between you know, letting.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: There's part of me that anytime someone should just googoo goggon,

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Speaker 2: they're just looking at the stars the whole time and

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Speaker 2: we never fight and yeah, she's selling anything. It's part

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Speaker 2: of me that's like, Yeah, you can be the most

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Speaker 2: amazing person I've ever met, but I can still disagree

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Speaker 2: with you, and I can still sometimes see that you're

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Speaker 2: not perfect. And I wonder if the people who are

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Speaker 2: in the clouds don't they eventually come down from the clouds.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like.

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Speaker 6: Two years is still a honeymoon phase, Like I don't

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Speaker 6: what I mean. Yeah, yeah, so I definitely think that

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Speaker 6: they'll get there, I'm sure. I mean, she's a fire sign.

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Speaker 6: I think he's a libra, which the fact that I

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Speaker 6: even maybe know that is crazy.

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Speaker 5: But no, they'll get there.

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Speaker 6: But I've been in like I've been in a five year,

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Speaker 6: a seven year, and I will say the first two

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Speaker 6: years are still for me the honeymoon.

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Speaker 5: So maybe they're just they'll get there. George and themal

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Speaker 5: I don't. I don't know.

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Speaker 6: George basically said, like I'm old, I don't have it

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Speaker 6: in me, Like what am I gonna argue about?

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Speaker 5: I'm m sixties, So I don't know about them.

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Speaker 2: But I can honestly tell you that I've been in

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Speaker 2: relationships before where the person I almost think had too

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Speaker 2: high of a regard for me, like like what like

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Speaker 2: I honestly I felt I felt like I could that

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Speaker 2: very often, but I felt like I could probably do anything,

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Speaker 2: and this person was gonna be like, Okay, you know

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Speaker 2: that's all right. I mean it's like they saw so

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Speaker 2: much good in me or something. But I'm sorry, but

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Speaker 2: it was a little bit unattractive because it's like, at

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Speaker 2: what point, And I'm not saying I tested that because

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Speaker 2: I'm not that kind of person, and I really like

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm not I'm not a liar, I'm

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Speaker 2: not deceptive. I don't cheat on do stuff like that.

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Speaker 2: I wasn't like, well, I'm gonna go out and cheats

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Speaker 2: if I can get away with it. But I just

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Speaker 2: I thought, like, I'm not that good of a dude,

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Speaker 2: like come on, like for you really, you know, like

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Speaker 2: you're you matter too. And I knew that, but sometimes

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Speaker 2: I felt like that person maybe wasn't putting themselves at

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Speaker 2: it was kind of unattractive.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm with you there.

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Speaker 6: I'm not attracted to someone who just agrees with me

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Speaker 5: I'm definitely not into that.

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Speaker 1: But Kiki and Paulina would be great with it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't enjoy fighting. Like, I don't enjoy it.

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Speaker 4: I don't think it's a good time. I'm like, why

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Speaker 4: are we doing this? Like just just agree with me,

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Speaker 4: come on, man, you know it's not hard and I

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Speaker 4: don't ask for a lie, you know, So I don't

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Speaker 4: I don't enjoy fighting.

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Speaker 5: It's it's actually like I don't like it at all.

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Speaker 2: Well, I guess would be you know, in a partnership

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Speaker 2: both people could eliminate. Like I said before, I'd say

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Speaker 2: maybe a quarter of the fights could be eliminated if

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Speaker 2: somebody would just shut up, which I'm not good at doing. However,

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Speaker 2: I also think that if you truly want every argument

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Speaker 2: in both of your relationships, every single one, I think

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Speaker 2: that at some point you might scratch your head and go,

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Speaker 2: why does this it's all I hate to say this,

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Speaker 2: but it's almost like where where what are they doing?

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Speaker 1: Like why does it? You know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: Like where are you getting this outlet? Like why do

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Speaker 2: I just win everything? Why do you not care?

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Speaker 1: You know?

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Speaker 2: Is it because like you don't, I don't know. It's

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Speaker 2: almost a bad thing.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I will say, if I start agreeing with everything

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Speaker 6: be over because I don't care anymore.

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Speaker 2: I'm exhausted, or it's like I'm cheating on you, and

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Speaker 2: it's like I don't want to fight with you because

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to cover up this other thing. So like,

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Speaker 2: sure we'll go there, you just do that. Yes, you're

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Speaker 2: right about that, Yes I'm sorry about that. But a

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Speaker 2: bunch of texts about this, by the way, and again,

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Speaker 2: what the hell do I know? But someone said, I'm

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Speaker 2: a therapist and can tell you that a lot of

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Speaker 2: men are struggling with standing their ground against their partner

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Speaker 2: and they're fearful of being perceived as toxic or abusive. Oh, Fred,

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Speaker 2: you definitely have okay daddy energy. What does that mean?

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Speaker 5: Okay, daddy, Okay daddy.

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Speaker 1: I mean I got daddy issues. But I don't know.

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Speaker 6: I think it means that like she would be in

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Speaker 6: a relationship with you and just say like, okay, daddy,

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Speaker 6: Oh now that's hot. Yeah you're so, she would agree

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Speaker 6: with you.

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Speaker 2: I could shut my mouth a lot more. But I

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Speaker 2: also I also don't I would I would question myself

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Speaker 2: if everything someone did okay, because I feel like you're

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Speaker 2: trading off your value in some ways, and why are

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Speaker 2: you doing that? No, it's almost like do you have trauma,

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Speaker 2: like where you don't think you matter?

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Speaker 7: No, Well, that's valid, But I was gonna say, like,

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Speaker 7: what if someone just doesn't like me? I'm very easy going.

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Speaker 7: I really don't care if we have you know, Chinese

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Speaker 7: or Mexican for dinner tonight?

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 7: Because sometimes, like I feel like even those things are

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Speaker 7: turned into arguments because then you don't feel hurt or seen.

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Speaker 5: But like, what if I truly just want.

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Speaker 7: To eat and I don't care, But now you think

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Speaker 7: I'm a punk because I won't stand on it, you know,

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Speaker 7: But I get it. If it's something bigger, like you know,

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Speaker 7: how are we going to raise our children or something

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Speaker 7: like you know where you want to send them to school?

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Speaker 5: That's that's a different conversation. But I don't know.

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Speaker 7: I just feel like, what's the point of fighting when

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Speaker 7: you can just meet your partner halfway and everybody's happy

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Speaker 7: it's given take?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean that that does make sense. Julie.

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Speaker 2: Hi, So you have been together since we were sixteen?

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Speaker 2: Hell are you now, Julie.

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Speaker 8: Fifty five?

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, I'm quick. Math, that's a long time.

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Speaker 2: Forty yeah, four fifty gosh, what forty something years?

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Speaker 1: And you've never you've never fought at all.

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Speaker 8: We've had disagreements, but we've never had a yelling, screaming fight.

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Speaker 8: We've never had where we called each other names. I mean,

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Speaker 8: we've just never done it. We've gotten quiet, sometimes walked away,

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Speaker 8: but we don't fight.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 2: Wow, Well, and you guys have been talk it out

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Speaker 2: so almost as long as I've been alive.

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Speaker 1: So good for you. Congratulations.

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Speaker 2: I mean, hey, you guys are just more mature and

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Speaker 2: maybe maybe certain people can just get lucky and they

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Speaker 2: meet their communications styles. His match, it looks like that's you, Julie.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, have a good day.

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Speaker 8: Yes, thanks you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Honestly, for me, the thing that jumped out about this

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Speaker 2: story was that he's in the clouds.

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Speaker 1: He is not being realistic. Eat your right.

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Speaker 2: He still is in a honeymoon phase and at some

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Speaker 2: Dear blog. I said before a little while ago, I'm

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Speaker 2: This week on my non existent partnership with the lady

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Speaker 2: who sells me close at Nordstrom. And I'll tell you

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Speaker 5: I can't be all I can be. That's right. I

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Speaker 2: Well, it turns out you're not a network, which means

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Speaker 1: Like what is it?

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Speaker 2: What are you really saying about your friend? Like you

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Speaker 5: Oh I'm not doing that.

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Speaker 5: I don't believe in that.

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Speaker 4: I'm sorry if the service is not good, I'll just

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Speaker 5: Keep getting better, you know they're not you get better,

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Speaker 2: No, I'm here to support you, but not in the

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