1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:05,440 Speaker 1: Coming up next our final News Roundup and Information Overload Hour. 2 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 1: All Right, News Roundup, Information Overload Hour, Toll free. Our 3 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 1: number is eight hundred and ninety four one, Shawn if 4 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 1: you want to be a part of the program. So, 5 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:19,119 Speaker 1: Jim Jordan House Judiciary Committee had their hearings today with whistleblowers. 6 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:22,159 Speaker 1: We're going to introduce you to one of them in 7 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 1: a minute. Stephen prend is his name. He's also a 8 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: Senior Fellow for the Center for Renewing America and he 9 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:32,520 Speaker 1: joined Jim Jordan and House Republicans as a whistleblower testifying 10 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:36,519 Speaker 1: on the issue of retaliation from the FBI and others 11 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:39,559 Speaker 1: for simply telling the truth about what is happening in 12 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 1: the agency and GOP. Members of the Weaponization Committee of 13 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 1: the Judiciary Select Committee heard the testimony from Steven and 14 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 1: three other whistleblowers. It was eye opening, it was shocking. 15 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 1: It should shock the conscience. This should not happen in 16 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 1: this country. But it did play some of the testimony 17 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 1: as Steve Friend as he talks about the FBI's campaign 18 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 1: of intimidation after he became a whistleblower and how the 19 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: FBI is working against the American people and how it 20 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 1: is in need of drastic reform. All we've been telling 21 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:16,319 Speaker 1: you listen. 22 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 2: At each level of my chain of command leadership caution 23 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 2: that despite my exemplary work performance, whistleblowing placed my otherwise 24 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 2: bright future with the FBI at risk. Special agents take 25 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 2: an oath to protect the US Constitution. The dangers of 26 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 2: federal law enforcement overreach were hammered home to me when 27 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:35,320 Speaker 2: I was required to attend trainings at the Holocaust Memorial 28 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:39,039 Speaker 2: Museum and MLK Memorial. I cited my oath and training 29 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 2: in my conversations with my FBI supervisors. Nevertheless, the FBI 30 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 2: weaponized the security clearance processes to facilitate my removal from 31 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 2: active duty within one month of my disclosures. In addition 32 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 2: to an indefinite unpaid suspension, the FBI initiated a campaign 33 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 2: of humiliation and intimidation to punish and pressure me to resign. 34 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 2: In violation of hip hop indivisions that the FBI leaked 35 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 2: my private medical information to a reporter at The New 36 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 2: York Times. The FBI denied my request to seek outside 37 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 2: employment in an obvious attempt to deprive me of the 38 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 2: ability to support my family. Finally, the FBI inspection division 39 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 2: imposed in a legal gag order in an attempt to 40 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 2: prevent me from communicating with my family and attorneys. The 41 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 2: FBI is incentivized to work against the American people and 42 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 2: in dire need of drastic reform. 43 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 3: Particularly in these areas. The integrated program. 44 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 2: Management system incentivizes the use of inappropriate investigatory processes and 45 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:36,079 Speaker 2: tools to achieve arbitrary statistical accomplishments. Mission creep within the 46 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 2: National Security Branch has refocused counter terrorism from legitimate foreign 47 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 2: actors to political opponents within our borders. The FBI weaponizes 48 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 2: process crimes and reinterprets laws to initiate pretectual prosecutions and 49 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:55,639 Speaker 2: persecute its political enemies. Euerintelligence analysis capability increasingly dictates operations, 50 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 2: turning the FBI into an intelligence agency with a law 51 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 2: enforcement capability. FBI collusion with big tech to gather intelligence 52 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 2: on Americans, censor political speech, and target citizens for malicious prosecution. 53 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 2: A dysfunctional promotion process fosters a revolving door of inexperienced, 54 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 2: ambitious FBI supervisors ascending the management ladder within the agency. 55 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:21,919 Speaker 2: FBI informant protocols that are broken and abusive. The FBI 56 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 2: skirts the Whistleblower Protection Act and exploits the security clearance 57 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 2: revocation process to expel employees who make legally protected disclosures. 58 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 1: Now after that, Linda Sanchez, a Democrat, then tries to 59 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 1: smear one of the other whistleblowers, in this case, Marcus Allen, 60 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 1: for using tweets from a quote bot account. 61 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 4: Thank you, mister Allen. 62 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 3: Have you ever used Twitter? 63 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 5: Yes? 64 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 2: Or no? 65 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 3: I have utilized Twitter? 66 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 5: Yes? 67 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 4: Day? 68 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 5: Okay? 69 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 4: And is your account at Marcus A ninety seven zero 70 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 4: five zero six four five. 71 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 3: That is absolutely not my account. 72 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 4: Okay, that's not your account. 73 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 5: Well. 74 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 4: On December fifth, twenty twenty two, an account under the 75 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 4: Marcus Allen retweeted a. 76 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 3: Tweet that said, it is not my account, ma'am. 77 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 4: You haven't let me finished the question, Sir football player, 78 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 4: you haven't let me finished the question. On justnd the 79 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 4: time is mine. On December fifth, twenty two, an account 80 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:18,840 Speaker 4: under the name of Marcus Allen retweeted a tweet that said, 81 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 4: quote Nancy Pelosi Stage January sixth, retweet if you agree 82 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 4: end quote? Do you agree with that statement? 83 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 5: Yes? Or no? 84 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:31,919 Speaker 3: That that is I don't know, ma'am. That's not my 85 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 3: account at all all. 86 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:37,479 Speaker 1: Right, joining us now, Stephen Friend, he testified earlier today, 87 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 1: a whistleblower in his own right, and he joined Jim Jordan, 88 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 1: he was before the Judiciary Committee. He's blockbuster hearings from 89 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 1: earlier today. And anyway, we appreciate you being with us, 90 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:49,600 Speaker 1: Steven Friend. 91 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:51,840 Speaker 6: Thank you, oh, thank you very much for having me. 92 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 5: Sean. 93 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 1: Let's talk a little bit about your background. Tell me 94 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 1: about your law enforcement background. 95 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 6: Yeah, I was a police officer in Georgia for of 96 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 6: years and joined the FBI in twenty fourteen. And one 97 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:05,599 Speaker 6: of the things about being a cop and joining the 98 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 6: bureau is they are more inclined to send you to 99 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 6: more remote locations and deal with some more obscure crimes. 100 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 6: So I spent my first seven years in the FBI 101 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:17,119 Speaker 6: working in northeastern Nebraska on Indian reservations there and dealing 102 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 6: with violent crimes. And that was really impactful to me 103 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 6: because I had the opportunity to arrest abut one hundred 104 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 6: and fifty violent criminals and over about two hundred cases 105 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 6: in my time there. And then in twenty twenty one, 106 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 6: elected to relocate my family to Daytona, Bechlorida, with the 107 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 6: understanding I was going to be working child pornography investigations. 108 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:36,720 Speaker 6: But after a few months there the new fiscal year 109 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 6: old around, I was told that those were now going 110 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:41,600 Speaker 6: to be deemed a local matter and I was going 111 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 6: to be focusing on domestic terrorism here on out. And 112 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 6: at that point was when I got my first access 113 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:49,600 Speaker 6: to the January sixth cases, which I eventually became a 114 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 6: whistleblower about. 115 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 1: You know, it's amazing and I understand that people thought 116 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 1: that Donald Trump did something wrong on January sixth, that 117 00:05:57,080 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 1: that should be investigated. But what the SA part is 118 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 1: what they did not investigate. At the top of the 119 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 1: last hour, we had the former Capitol Police chief sunned 120 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 1: on this. He's one of only ten Capitol police chiefs 121 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:15,280 Speaker 1: in the history of the country, and he was devastated. 122 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:17,600 Speaker 1: In the days leading up to January sixth, they had 123 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:22,159 Speaker 1: actionable intelligence and they ignored that intelligence. He saw what 124 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:26,839 Speaker 1: was coming and he begged for National Guard troops. Then also, 125 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:29,239 Speaker 1: the media would have you think that Donald Trump didn't 126 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 1: think this could be problematic. But we have four people 127 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: on January third, in a meeting in the Oval Office, 128 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 1: actually there were five people in the meeting President Trump, 129 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:42,160 Speaker 1: Mark Meadows as Chief of Staff Chris Miller, the Defense Secretary, 130 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 1: his Chief of Staff, Cash Betel, and the Chairman of 131 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 1: the Joint Chiefs, General Milly, I have on tape and 132 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 1: I played it earlier in the show for the five 133 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 1: of them, saying that Donald Trump asked if they needed 134 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 1: troops on January sixth, then would they be available? And 135 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 1: General Milly, according to who the Inspector General report, said 136 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:05,719 Speaker 1: something similar that it was definitely discussed. So that's five 137 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 1: out of five people in the days leading up to now. 138 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 1: If somebody wanted an insurrection, I'm not sure they would 139 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 1: be looking for guard troops. 140 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 3: Then. 141 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 1: Of course, we learned from Lester Holt in January of 142 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 1: this year they finally caught up to us that federal 143 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 1: law enforcement had in their possession actionable intelligence that they 144 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 1: could have shared with law enforcement, and in fact they 145 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 1: did not, and otherwise all of this would have been prevented. 146 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: And that's sad too. I mean, what is your reaction 147 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: when you hear that, and what were you hearing inside 148 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: the Bureau at the time when you tried to point 149 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 1: things out. 150 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:44,119 Speaker 6: Well, I think the unfortunate part of what January sixth 151 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 6: has become such a political football that those issues are 152 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 6: being disputed in the veracity of everything is up in 153 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 6: question on the matter who you talk to. But from 154 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:56,119 Speaker 6: my perspective, my concern was not even about the fact 155 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 6: that day. It was how the Bureau is now after 156 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 6: the fact, manipulating statistics concerning January six in order to 157 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 6: boost its domestic terrorism members and further a narrative that 158 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 6: domestic terrorism was going on the rise around the country. 159 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 6: And I was also very concerned about our use of 160 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 6: SWAT teams and large scale arrest operations to arrest January 161 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 6: six subjects. Regardless of whether or not those charges were 162 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 6: righteous or completely artical, it didn't matter to me. I 163 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 6: thought that those decisions were putting the public safety at risk. 164 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 6: And I said that as somebody who was almost watching 165 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 6: for five years. But these were people who are charged 166 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 6: with misdemeanor crimes in many situations, and even for those 167 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 6: who were charged with felonies, they had agreed to cooperate 168 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 6: with law enforcement. And that's just not in keeping with 169 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 6: the use of the lowest possible force mountain and needed 170 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 6: to put somebody in the custody if there are law enforcement. 171 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 1: So you were a whistleblower, you were you were trying to. 172 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 1: The FBI retaliated against you. They suspended you, and all 173 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 1: you were doing was pointing out that the bureau was 174 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 1: working the numbers on the demandstic violent extremism cases. What 175 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 1: exactly did you see and do you maybe have evidence 176 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 1: to back up everything you saw? 177 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 6: Well, I can tell you from my experience of having 178 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:15,679 Speaker 6: opened up a couple of hundred cases, that the FBI 179 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 6: is not following the rules that are spelled out for 180 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 6: it in order to manage its cases. So January sixth 181 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 6: righteously should be one case that's run from Washington, DC. 182 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 6: But instead the decision was made to open up a 183 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:29,679 Speaker 6: separate case for every single person, and instead of on 184 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 6: paper running those from Washington, d C. Wherever the person lives, 185 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 6: that office around the country was the on paper office 186 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 6: of origin. Meanwhile, a task force was stood up in Washington, 187 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 6: d C. That was actually calling the shots and giving directives, 188 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:46,320 Speaker 6: and that was giving the impression to the nation that 189 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 6: genestic herorism is on the rise. In Daytona Beach, Florida, 190 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 6: where I was, or that Sacramento, California, or Milwaukee, Wisconsin, 191 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 6: wherever the case was opened, and the President and the 192 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 6: Attorney General and the FBI director were able to go 193 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 6: up and say the the stats back us up on 194 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 6: domestic terrorism being on the rise and secure funding. We've 195 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:07,199 Speaker 6: seen the FBI get a huge surge. And I think 196 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 6: the most disgusting part that I was I related to 197 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 6: the committee and we got into a little today, is 198 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 6: senior executives at the FBI get compensation. They get bonuses 199 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 6: because they've been able to hit the metrics that they 200 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 6: predetermined for themselves to hit these domestic terrorism numbers. 201 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 1: Oh so if the numbers are right, they get to 202 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 1: they get a nice bonus for themselves. So there's a 203 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: financial incentive maybe to fix the books. That's that's not 204 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 1: the system you need. A law enforcement in my view, 205 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 1: let me ask you. Tell me about the day that 206 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 1: you were suspended. Tell me about what was said to 207 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 1: you and how this all came into being. 208 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 6: Well, the day that I was actually suspended in September 209 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 6: was pretty uneventful other than just arriving and then being 210 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 6: squared out. It was the actual lead up to that 211 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 6: where I made my protected disclosures, where at three separate 212 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 6: occasions I was cautioned against becoming a whistleblower. I was 213 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:02,559 Speaker 6: told that this was going to jeopardize my career. And 214 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 6: in my meeting with two of my assistant Special Agents 215 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 6: in charge, I was told that my duty was to 216 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:10,199 Speaker 6: the FBI, not to the Constitution, and they alleged that 217 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 6: I was insubordinate and refusing me to my job. My 218 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 6: contention to them was, look, I pronotes to the Constitution, 219 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 6: and I believe that what we're doing could be risk 220 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 6: to the public safety, it could be illegal. And I 221 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 6: received training when I was in the FBI academy about 222 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 6: abuse of power. We went to the Holocaust Memorial Museum, 223 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 6: we went to the MLPA Memorial, and we were taught 224 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 6: that only these civil rights atrocities can occur and GENSI 225 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 6: can occur when people with members of law enforcement don't 226 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 6: step up and ring the alarm bell, so when they 227 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:41,079 Speaker 6: could be the bad guys in fact. And the other 228 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:44,439 Speaker 6: response to that was that I really needed to do 229 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 6: some soul searching and decide if I wanted to be 230 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:48,679 Speaker 6: a member of the FBI going forward. 231 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:53,079 Speaker 1: And then they just took their own liberties to suspend you. 232 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 1: I thought we had whistleblower protection laws in this country. 233 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 5: Did not. 234 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 1: Did I misread that we do have them? 235 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:01,319 Speaker 6: But the FBI has found the hack, and that is 236 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 6: a security clearance. So you can't work as an FBI 237 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 6: agent without a security clearance. So the FBI contrives ways 238 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 6: to suspend security clearances because that is the years and 239 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 6: years long process in order to investigate, and it has 240 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 6: to be just based on an allegation of wrongdoing. In 241 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 6: my situation, the FBI said that I improperly access the 242 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 6: employee handbook and that was grounds to suspend my security 243 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 6: clearance and keep me in an unpaid status. Meanwhile, I'm 244 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 6: still an employee and I need the FBI's permission to 245 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 6: work outside and provide for my family, and I'm limited 246 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 6: with outside employment earning seventy five hundred dollars a year. 247 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 1: Quick break more with Stephen Friend, a now suspended FBI 248 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:43,559 Speaker 1: whistleblower testifying earlier today before the House Judiciary Committee. Hi, 249 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 1: we'll continue with Steven Friend. He has been suspended FBI 250 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 1: agent whistle blower testifying before the House Judiciary Committee today. 251 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 1: Let me ask you this. So I have a friend 252 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 1: of mine recently retired FBI, and I know FBI agents 253 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 1: that are working today and they these are their words, 254 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 1: and they say universally it is not the same organization 255 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 1: as the one they believed that they were joining. However, 256 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 1: many years ago that it has been politicized, how high 257 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:17,560 Speaker 1: up did your case go within the FBI to get 258 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:18,439 Speaker 1: you suspended? 259 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 6: I agree to the executive Assistant director level EAD. Jennifer Moore, 260 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 6: heads up the Security Division, who's ultimately her decision to suspend, 261 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 6: and she tied the letter. Interestingly enough, she is retiring 262 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 6: in the next few weeks, and she did that after 263 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 6: being subpoena to appear before Jim Jordan's Committee on the 264 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 6: Weaponisation of the Federal Government. I think she's doing that 265 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 6: to avoid any sort of responsibility and culpability. But unfortunately 266 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 6: for her, she's not going to have the ability to 267 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 6: retain a or utilize an FBI attorney to defend her 268 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 6: in that. And after talking privately with the Chairman Jordan today, 269 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 6: she still intends to bring her before the committee. 270 00:13:56,600 --> 00:14:00,080 Speaker 1: Well, I really appreciate your courage and your heroism, and 271 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 1: you know, the sad part is is not only were 272 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 1: you not rewarded for trying to clean up what should 273 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 1: be the world's premiere law enforcement agency, which once was, 274 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 1: but you know what, now it's just further evidence of 275 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:18,680 Speaker 1: how it's been weaponized and politicized. I'm very sorry you've 276 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 1: had to go through this, and I mean that with 277 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 1: all my heart. I have nothing but the deepest respect 278 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 1: for all the good agents like yourself that voluntarily put 279 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 1: their lives on the line to protect our country. And 280 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 1: the fact that this has happened to our FBI and 281 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 1: our CIA should be very chilling to the American people. 282 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 1: And it looks like we're going to need very deep reforms. 283 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 1: We may need a full cleaning house here to start 284 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 1: over and make sure that the mission is right and 285 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 1: the people that are hired are people that are willing 286 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 1: to fulfill that mission courageously to protect this country and 287 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 1: protective of the people of this country. But we really 288 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 1: appreciate Stephen Friend. Thank you for being with us today. 289 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 6: Thank you very much for having me. 290 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 1: Sean God bless you. Eight hundred and nine point one, 291 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 1: Seawan or number if you want to be a part 292 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 1: of the program. Now, my cousin I see is calling 293 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 1: into the show today and I'm glad he's calling in. 294 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 1: I'll explain the whole story when we get back. He 295 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 1: was in the FBI, so let me tell you what 296 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 1: life was like, you know, my background, my family. And 297 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 1: you've heard me say this before. I know in my 298 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 1: life that I stand on the shoulders of my parents. 299 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 1: Both of them grew up very poor. My dad grew 300 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 1: up in bedste In, Brooklyn. My mom grew up in 301 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 1: the South Bronx. They were the children of immigrants from Ireland. 302 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 1: All four of my grandparents, all four of them came 303 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 1: from Ireland, and they had no money in their pocket 304 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 1: when they got here, and they had hard lives. Anytime 305 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 1: I like to complain and whine and bitch and moan 306 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 1: and grown, you know, I think about their lives and 307 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 1: I'm like, I have nothing to complain about here. It's 308 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 1: simply just wrong. But they worked hard in the hopes 309 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 1: that future generations would be able to do have better 310 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 1: lives than they had, and they sacrificed their lives for 311 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 1: that way. And by the way, so many of you 312 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 1: have similar stories to tell. Mine is not that unique anyway. 313 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 1: So my grandfather on my mother's side came from Ireland 314 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 1: and his brother also came and I will tell you 315 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 1: that so as I was growing up, I mean when 316 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 1: my mom became a prison guard. You know, law enforcement 317 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 1: was huge in my family. So many cousins, relatives, you 318 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 1: know outside my immediate family, you know, we're on the NYPD. 319 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 1: My mom was a prison guard. She worked double shifts 320 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 1: pretty much all a life till she died young. I 321 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 1: think from overwork in my opinion, and spent you know, 322 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 1: twenty five years of her life in a jail. I 323 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 1: think that would kind of suck. Sixteen hours a day. 324 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 1: And my dad was a family corprobation guy, waited tables 325 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 1: on the weekend, and they didn't vacations. They didn't buy 326 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 1: new cars till much later in life because they couldn't 327 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 1: afford them, and they spent all their money on a 328 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 1: Catholic education because they believed that that was the latter 329 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 1: to success. Now, growing up in my family, if you 330 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 1: were in law enforcement, you know what, you were looked 331 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 1: at it as Wow, you're the American dream. You made it. 332 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 1: You're on the NYPD. This is awesome. Now. My grandfather 333 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 1: on my mother's side had a brother who had two 334 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 1: sons that made it to the FBI, and in my 335 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:38,880 Speaker 1: family growing up, they were deity. They were it. They 336 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:41,919 Speaker 1: were a pinnacle of success that they made it to 337 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:46,640 Speaker 1: the premier law enforcement agency in the entire world. One 338 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:50,159 Speaker 1: of my cousins has since passed away, but another is 339 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 1: alive and he's actually on our Newsmaker line right now. 340 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 1: My mother's maiden name was Flynn, and Billy Flynn is 341 00:17:59,320 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 1: on the line. 342 00:17:59,760 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 5: Bill. 343 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:03,160 Speaker 1: Great to have you, my friend, God bless you. I'm 344 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:05,639 Speaker 1: sorry we missed your brother. And by the way, your 345 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:09,399 Speaker 1: other brother became Jack became what a Christian brother? If 346 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken and used. How many years did you 347 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 1: serve in the FBI? 348 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 5: Twenty eight years, Sean? You know it's funny you say that. 349 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 5: Well I didn't call in with this in mind, but 350 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:25,120 Speaker 5: what you just described I call the Irish American privilege. 351 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 5: You know, we had the loving parents, work ethic, gave 352 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 5: us a Marral code and turned us loose. No checks, 353 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:34,160 Speaker 5: no nothing, that's true. 354 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:37,679 Speaker 1: I was on my own, you know, since I had 355 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 1: my first paper out, I paid for every meal I 356 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 1: ever had. I just you know, we didn't have meals 357 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:44,160 Speaker 1: at six o'clock like a regular family. 358 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 5: You know what you know, Short, I'm in a sweet spun. 359 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:51,639 Speaker 5: I'm two years older than Trump and two years younger 360 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:54,479 Speaker 5: than Biden. Let me tell you something. Trump is a 361 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 5: freaking wonder kid. He's unbelievable. I couldn't begin to compete 362 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 5: with his stamina and the other guy he is on 363 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 5: his way to dementia city. This is from my observations 364 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:07,160 Speaker 5: from this age I am. I'm from what we call 365 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 5: my friend's call. We call ourselves twentieth century feds. Our 366 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 5: careers were in the last quarter of the twentieth century. 367 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 5: But the thing I'm describing there, that silver spooner thing. 368 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:20,159 Speaker 5: I didn't call him with this in mind. But you 369 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 5: know what, maybe that's the problem with this Ray guy, 370 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 5: because that's what he is, a silver spooner. As I 371 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 5: recall his background, I think he was born in Manhattan 372 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:32,440 Speaker 5: to a well to do lawyer father. He went to 373 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 5: prep school in Manhattan and then Yale Law. He gets out, 374 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 5: he gets himself a job in a preferred law firm, 375 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:41,160 Speaker 5: no problem there. He gets out of that, he does 376 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:44,440 Speaker 5: a couple of years in justice, has no FBI experience, 377 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 5: and the next thing you know, he's the director of 378 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 5: the FBI. I mean to me, I just think this 379 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:54,360 Speaker 5: guy was hopefully inadequate for the position he was put in. 380 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 1: He had an opportunity to clean house. After all. The 381 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 1: Shenanigans of James call me you know, we know James 382 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 1: Comey went three separate times with PISA applications, and Andrew 383 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 1: McCabe said, without Hillary's dirty dossier, those applications never would 384 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:13,919 Speaker 1: have been improved. And he lied to a court and 385 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 1: said that it was verified. It says at the top 386 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:19,399 Speaker 1: of a visa court application verified. And he submitted to 387 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 1: them every time. And then we learned this week from 388 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 1: the Durham report that they had no predicate at all 389 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 1: to even open this investigation and that they will warned repeatedly. 390 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 1: Early October, before he signed that first application, we know 391 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:38,159 Speaker 1: that the FBI had agents fly over the Pond to 392 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 1: London and meet with Christopher Steele. They offered him a 393 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:45,399 Speaker 1: million dollars if he could corroborate his dossier. He could not, 394 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 1: But yet they included it as the bulk of information 395 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:52,680 Speaker 1: to get that visa application, to destroy Carter Page's life 396 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 1: and backdoor into all things Trump world. How did he 397 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 1: never get held accountable for that? 398 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:02,400 Speaker 5: I don't know. Straordinary, isn't it. This guy put his thumb, 399 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:04,919 Speaker 5: put his put his cinder block on the scale of 400 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 5: the last election. If anything, hopefully the Republicans will have 401 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 5: somebody in there at twenty four to turn it over. 402 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:15,360 Speaker 5: You will never get them to go back after call 403 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:18,879 Speaker 5: me and the rest of those dirt bags. But this 404 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 5: guy should be made an example of. He absolutely affected 405 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:26,239 Speaker 5: the election in twenty twenty by putting by, you know, 406 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:30,120 Speaker 5: hooking up with the social networks, telling him his Russian 407 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 5: pranks coming, and then he then, of course the laptop 408 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:36,879 Speaker 5: shows up and then they sit on it. Two weeks 409 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 5: before the election. Some independent survey said that could have 410 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 5: affected the outcome of the election had they known that, 411 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:46,879 Speaker 5: had the post not been squashed. You know. So I 412 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 5: would like to see him prosecuted. That's my goal. Sorry, 413 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:54,120 Speaker 5: this is what I really called in for. So I'm 414 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 5: just off the top of my head here. But the 415 00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 5: idea I called in for was to do with the 416 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:04,679 Speaker 5: border shore. I know that the governors of Texas and 417 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 5: Florida have been shipping the buses up. It's well known 418 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 5: what happened in New York. We got Mayor Adams in 419 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 5: their spring University. We're not a sanctuary city anymore, etc. Well, 420 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 5: you know, there's a lot of universities in this country, 421 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:21,439 Speaker 5: a lot of wop politically correct universities that have empty 422 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 5: dorms during the summer, you know, and a lot of 423 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 5: them rent them out. I would love to see, maybe, 424 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 5: in particular, let's go after these Catholic and name only universities. 425 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:34,920 Speaker 5: Let's drop off a couple of loads of these illegal 426 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:39,160 Speaker 5: immigrants in their dorms for the summer. Maybe they could 427 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 5: take some of that they're well endowed monies that they have. 428 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:47,159 Speaker 5: They must be hugely profitable with their exorbitant tuitions, and 429 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:49,360 Speaker 5: let them take care of these people for a summer, 430 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 5: and maybe during that summer they can figure out a 431 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 5: more permanent lodging for them in the communities in which 432 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 5: they live. 433 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 1: Well, I mean, why don't we enforce the law if 434 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:02,200 Speaker 1: you enter those countries illegally, you don't respect our laws 435 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 1: borders of sovereignty. You should be sent home. By the way, 436 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 1: you know, it's funny. I want to go back to 437 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 1: our own family, if you don't mind. I bet you 438 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 1: and your brothers had no idea that everybody else in 439 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:16,440 Speaker 1: the family looked up to you the way we did. 440 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:19,919 Speaker 5: Did you no idea at all? Seuck, I got it, 441 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 5: you know. I was in college. I was in Manhattan College. 442 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:25,399 Speaker 5: It was in night school, paying my own way, I 443 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:28,200 Speaker 5: would say, at the same time as Rudy Giuliani and 444 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 5: Jane Spatterson. 445 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 1: Wow, you know, it's it's pretty amazing, you know. The 446 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:36,399 Speaker 1: sad part is, and you and I had private conversations 447 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:39,159 Speaker 1: when we were dealing with this whole you know, Mueller 448 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 1: witch hunt and everything else that went on for three 449 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:45,199 Speaker 1: long years, Russia hoax, and I remember telling you it 450 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 1: was painful for me. It kind of it went against 451 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 1: my own ingrained DNA because I was brought up to 452 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 1: revere people like yourself and people in law enforcement and 453 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 1: look up to them and believe in them and trust them, 454 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:04,119 Speaker 1: and the idea that they were abusing power to this level. 455 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 1: Now again, I make an exception for the good, the 456 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:09,159 Speaker 1: good people in the FBI that risk their lives, the 457 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 1: good people in law enforcement. And I always make that 458 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:15,639 Speaker 1: caveat because it's not fair to sweep a broad general 459 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 1: brush and people like yourself and people like your brother, 460 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:23,159 Speaker 1: and yet look what has happened here. I mean, I 461 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 1: don't know if you had a chance to look at 462 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:28,119 Speaker 1: this Durham report, but it is devastating. If anyone has 463 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 1: eyes to read and ears to hear and a heart 464 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 1: that's open, you see that this was all a hoax 465 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 1: from the beginning, with no evidence to even begin an investigation. 466 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 1: And I'm like, how is this happening in this country? 467 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 1: That to me is abuse of power, That is corruption. 468 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:46,920 Speaker 1: But if our institutions are corrupt, I'll give you another example. 469 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 1: Twenty twenty, here's the FBI again. They had Hunter Biden's 470 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:54,880 Speaker 1: laptop in December and twenty nineteen. They verified that, John 471 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:58,440 Speaker 1: Solomon says in spring of twenty twenty, and yet they 472 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:02,159 Speaker 1: had FBI agents meet up with big tech companies on 473 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,639 Speaker 1: a weekly basis, even given three and a half million 474 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 1: dollars to Twitter and pre bunking, Well, you might be 475 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 1: a victim of disinformation from a foreign entity, and maybe 476 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 1: about Joe or Hunter Biden. So that story that they 477 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 1: knew was coming out because Rudy Giuliani had a copy 478 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:21,440 Speaker 1: of that laptop, they debunk it, and then it gets 479 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 1: censored and the American people are denied a very important 480 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 1: truth about a candidate and his family prior to an election. Now, 481 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 1: that to me is wow. I can't imagine what would 482 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:39,399 Speaker 1: happen to me if I ever tried to, you know, 483 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 1: medal in an election like that. 484 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 5: You know, I was told by someone who was in 485 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:48,640 Speaker 5: a position to know the sad laptop sat that whole 486 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:52,239 Speaker 5: time in a unit down at Quantico, you know, and 487 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:55,400 Speaker 5: I call it Dorg and pony show Land. They're really 488 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 5: good at putting on lots of shows down there. The 489 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:01,159 Speaker 5: congressman that was on ahead of me, I agree with 490 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:05,359 Speaker 5: them one hundred percent. Do not fund any new facility 491 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:08,399 Speaker 5: for the FBI, because that'll be the next little bubble 492 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 5: that they dangle out in front of you. They should 493 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:14,360 Speaker 5: be confirmed to that concrete tomb that they are in 494 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,680 Speaker 5: right now because they hate being there, and I really 495 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 5: feel they shouldn't be rewarded for the way that they've 496 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:24,439 Speaker 5: conducted themselves throughout this whole thing. Well, I'm disgusted, and 497 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 5: I don't know anybody for the most part, the retirees 498 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 5: that I know that have anything but lack of respect 499 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 5: for these people. 500 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 1: Every single person that I know, either currently serving or 501 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,359 Speaker 1: recently retired, tells me the same thing. It is not 502 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 1: the agency they signed up for. Everything that they're looking 503 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:46,400 Speaker 1: into now in the Judiciary Committee about weaponization in how 504 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:49,920 Speaker 1: it's been politicized the FBI, it is all true. And 505 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 1: that to me tells us that we don't have equal 506 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:56,120 Speaker 1: justice or application of our laws. They're not following standard 507 00:26:56,160 --> 00:27:01,880 Speaker 1: procedures or following through on constitutional rights. Pretty scary times, 508 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 1: by the way. And here it is you guys had 509 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 1: had created this great reputation for our family and were 510 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 1: you know, looked up to his deity and then it 511 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,359 Speaker 1: along comes me and I ruined the whole family reputation. 512 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 5: Are you kidding me? What patters can be? I bragged 513 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 5: anybody who listened to me that you're my cousin, and 514 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 5: I said, don't hold it against him. 515 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 1: And by the way, and by the way, the funny 516 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 1: thing is probably half of them want to kill you 517 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:31,160 Speaker 1: after that. You know, well, listen, it's great to hear 518 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 1: from you. And then you know, twenty eight years you 519 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 1: served our great country. Your brother was a hero as well, well, 520 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 1: both your brothers were here have your whole family's heroes. 521 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:43,119 Speaker 1: I'll never forget your dad. I remember your your dad. 522 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,200 Speaker 1: I think I called him Uncle Dave at the time, 523 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 1: I'm not sure, but he would smoke a cigarette and 524 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:52,880 Speaker 1: he'd pop with every drag. He used to do that pop, 525 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 1: remember that. And I remember your your mom Bridy loving 526 00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 1: a Gin and tonic, And I remember I was a 527 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 1: bartender at the time i'd make him for yeah. 528 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:05,959 Speaker 5: Real quick, my father would. He'd be sitting there with 529 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 5: a pipe, doing that popp thing with the pipe, and 530 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:12,160 Speaker 5: he said, sure, Billy, I'm so happy to tell you 531 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:13,639 Speaker 5: I gave up smoking. 532 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 1: As he popped away on a pipe instead of a cigarette. 533 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,920 Speaker 1: I remember him smoking cigarettes. I don't remember the pipe 534 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 1: well anyway, Bill, Thank you, my friend. God bless you 535 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 1: and our entire family, and and I know you agree 536 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,440 Speaker 1: with me that they had much tougher lives than we did, 537 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:35,160 Speaker 1: and they sacrificed a lot for us, and I never 538 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 1: forget that we stand on their shoulders. 539 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 5: Thanks, Shean, you're the workhorse and the conservative body. 540 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 1: Well but trying, my friend, I'm just trying to follow 541 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 1: in your footsteps. Yep, all right, eight nine one seawn 542 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 1: our number if you want to be part of the program. 543 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 1: I used to call him and say, it's killing me, 544 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,719 Speaker 1: it's killing me. I don't want to cover this story. 545 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 1: I don't want to be point on on exposing you 546 00:28:56,800 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 1: know what I had come grown up to Revere, you know, 547 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 1: law enforcement, the FBI, and I was brought up to 548 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 1: you know, I looked at him and his brother and 549 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 1: we were like, you know, we didn't see them often, 550 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 1: and then sometimes you'd see them and they like had 551 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,239 Speaker 1: long hippie hair. You know, they were dressed. You know, 552 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 1: they were obviously clearly infiltrating something. I obviously, at my age, 553 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,479 Speaker 1: I had no clue what they were doing. And you know, 554 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 1: it just was you know, we looked at them as 555 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 1: the pinnacle of success as an immigrant family. And they 556 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 1: made it when they made it to the FBI, and 557 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 1: that was that was the dream of their parents risking 558 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 1: everything coming to this country with no money. And that's 559 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 1: all for my grandparents. I only knew one of my grandparents. 560 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 1: I did not know the other three, and I didn't 561 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 1: know his dad, which was my grandfather's brother. Anyway, great people, 562 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 1: I'll say that. All right, that's going to wrap things 563 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 1: up at today. All right, the hearings of the whistle blowers. 564 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 1: Today we got full and complete coverage, including one of 565 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 1: the whistleblowers. Im pio. Kelly Ann joins us tonight. Lindsey 566 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 1: Graham's of New York tonight. He'll check in with us 567 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 1: in studio, Tommy Laren in studio, Dagan is in studio. 568 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 1: So we have a lot of fun. Ronnie Jackson and 569 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 1: so much more nine Eastern Hannity, Fox News, see you tonight, 570 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 1: back here tomorrow. Thank you for making this show possible.