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Speaker 1: Hey everybody, and welcome to another episode of The Hunting Collective. Man,

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Speaker 1: it's good to be podcasting again this week, and I'm

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Speaker 1: joined by Remy Warrant and Tim Bernett. You may know

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Speaker 1: both these gentlemen from the show Solo Hunter that appears

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Speaker 1: on the television and you watch it there. Um, they're both,

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Speaker 1: you know, outside of being involved in that television program,

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Speaker 1: both these guys are experienced hunters. Um, they know their

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Speaker 1: ship when it comes to Western hunting, and they've just

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Speaker 1: got a bunch of experience to share with us all.

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Speaker 1: So we're going to We're at the Sheep Show, We're

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Speaker 1: at the YETI booth, we're hanging out. Uh, it's a

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Speaker 1: great day. A lot of like minded folks walking around

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Speaker 1: this show, and we are enjoying a weekend in Reno, Divada,

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Speaker 1: which happens to be Remy's hometown and the home state

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Speaker 1: Mr Burnett. So, without further ado, Tim and Remy in

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Speaker 1: Reno enjoy Hey, Rabby Warren, what's up Ben over? Hey

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Speaker 1: man checking out the Sheep Show And it's in my

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Speaker 1: hometown of Reno, Neva from Nova. Yeah, this is my

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Speaker 1: stomping grounds where we did the Meat Eater podcast. Yesterday. Um,

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Speaker 1: I used to do hockey practice there in that same room,

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Speaker 1: and that room. Course of the is this when you

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Speaker 1: were how long ago? Was this like middle school age?

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Speaker 1: You're deep. You're deep in the reno years ago. Heay, Tim,

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Speaker 1: I am an implant of reno though. Oh yeah, I

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Speaker 1: feel a lot of pressure these I have Reno trivia

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Speaker 1: or something. We could have Reno trivia. The first thing

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Speaker 1: I would say is don't eat the purple parrot. The

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Speaker 1: purple parrot. No, what you guys said you had lunch

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Speaker 1: there yesterday. I didn't. That sounds We got We flew,

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Speaker 1: we flew in. We were it was late. We wanted sushi.

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Speaker 1: It turns out none of your sushi restaurants are open

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Speaker 1: past nine pm. Great sushi just down the street. Everywhere,

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Speaker 1: they're good sushi. But it was past nine pm. There

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Speaker 1: was no There was one place open according to the internet.

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Speaker 1: We went there and they turned us down. So we

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Speaker 1: just went down the escalator and found the purple parrot.

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Speaker 1: Oh inside a cassine in the Atlantis. Okay, with the

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Speaker 1: sushi in the Atlantis is open late? Yeah, we tried

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Speaker 1: I understand where the purple parrot came from. Him. We

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Speaker 1: just like googled super mad that we went. He was like,

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Speaker 1: what are you guys doing? Man like Reno a bad name,

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Speaker 1: Like Reno has really good food and it's Reno's extremely

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Speaker 1: strange that it's this Like I think Reno is the

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Speaker 1: sushi capital of the West, and you there will be

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Speaker 1: people people always challenge me on it. Then I take

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Speaker 1: them to sushi and Rena and the like this, this

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Speaker 1: is incredible. They're the best. There's guys that come in

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Speaker 1: for shows, like the Prime Guys. When they come in,

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Speaker 1: they're just like, all we want to do is go

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Speaker 1: to sushi. Just take us to sush she because it's

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Speaker 1: so good here. It's good. But it's also you're like, okay,

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Speaker 1: is it the quality of fish? Well, the quality is good,

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Speaker 1: but we aren't competing on quality. We're competing on price

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Speaker 1: quantity with good quality. Does that make? That's the equation?

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Speaker 1: And that is what you're You're eating that and you're

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Speaker 1: like you can have anything you want for twenty five dollars,

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Speaker 1: like all in, like as much as you want, so

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Speaker 1: you're just you're not full. You're not saying the best

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Speaker 1: as good as most places, you know what I'm saying, Like,

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Speaker 1: I think it's as good as I've had pretty much. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean there's like a few places they get like

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Speaker 1: I'm eating fluke or something, you know, but like for

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Speaker 1: you know, and you're like, Okay, this is awesome. For

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Speaker 1: plus plus you get free saki. Now I wish I

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Speaker 1: had some kind of a coupon deal. I've got a

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Speaker 1: punch card, so you want to if we want to

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Speaker 1: offer that, Tim will mail you his punch card. No, no, no,

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Speaker 1: it's probably no. You gotta you gotta come to Reno.

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Speaker 1: You gotta come buy mine, and then I'll give you

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Speaker 1: like in the corner of the Yetie booth. If you

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Speaker 1: hear this, like soft not soft, this murmur in the background,

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Speaker 1: We got first light hanging out. There's yetti. Um, so

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Speaker 1: Give me a sheep show story. What's your first sheep shown?

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Speaker 1: Because you Yeah, I've been coming to the sheep Show

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Speaker 1: Grey Thornton from Wild Sheep was telling me they're they're

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Speaker 1: growing like thirty percent a year attendees of this show.

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Speaker 1: And as you know, you guys have been to all

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Speaker 1: the shows, I feel like it's one of the most

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Speaker 1: fun places you can go. Man. You can win a

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Speaker 1: sheep on around every corner, but it's just a casual atmosphere. Man,

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Speaker 1: it's not. Yeah, it's it's my favorite show. I think

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Speaker 1: probably because the crowds aren't like they are in other shows.

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Speaker 1: But it's also the stuff off to, like you're really

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Speaker 1: pretty sweet. Yeah, that's pretty good for you guys. It's

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Speaker 1: Damn there. That's like, that's like the Raiders going to

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Speaker 1: Las Vegas, you know, right, It's like Tim, if you

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Speaker 1: never want to sheep on. No, you have to enter

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Speaker 1: the raffles and the different things, uh you know what

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Speaker 1: some years, but mostly I don't remy as a winner, right,

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Speaker 1: I've wanted all sheep hunt here. Um, the best odds

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Speaker 1: are like the one more for force. So if you've

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Speaker 1: there's four basic species of I mean there's a lot

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Speaker 1: big horn. Um. So when I was a kid, I

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Speaker 1: state draws. Like there's there's um the California chapter for

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Speaker 1: Wild Sheep Foundation has a rowing. I think it's like

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Speaker 1: I mean, Wyoming does something similar. Idaho, man, their Wild

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Speaker 1: Chief Foundation has some of the most incredible draw odds

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Speaker 1: for a sheep tag through these raffles. I know Alaska

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Speaker 1: does too. Alaska several different yeah chapter events. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: Expo next week. The only reason I go to Hunt Expo,

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Speaker 1: no offense hunt Expo, but it's to try to win

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Speaker 1: a sheep tag or one of those other tags that

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Speaker 1: I drew that drew in an elk tag and packaged

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Speaker 1: lake on a five dollar five dollar raffle. I guess

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Speaker 1: it's like the Alaska state draws technically a raffle as well.

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Speaker 1: So that's it's a good time. Like this is a

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Speaker 1: good way to spin it because it's it's kind of

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Speaker 1: tagged all season right now. Um, well get to the

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Speaker 1: tail tail into some of it. But both of you

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Speaker 1: that take three to four points, so you plan on

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Speaker 1: those you saw three to four years out. Then the

426
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Speaker 1: random draw states would be like New Mexico, Idaho, Alaska.

427
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Speaker 1: Put in for those because you could get you're on

428
00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:28,439
Speaker 1: the same starting out New You're on the same playing

429
00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:31,000
Speaker 1: field for a great tag as everybody else, and that

430
00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:32,879
Speaker 1: and that play fields not going to change. It's not

431
00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:35,360
Speaker 1: gonna flip or flip around on it correct And then

432
00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:38,560
Speaker 1: the bonus point is like everybody's in the hat, but

433
00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:40,879
Speaker 1: the people with the more points have a greater chance,

434
00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:44,639
Speaker 1: like Nevada um Utel is like a modified preference and

435
00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:52,080
Speaker 1: bonus point state. UM where else Nevada's bonus, Montana's bonus um.

436
00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:55,560
Speaker 1: So those states like you could draw any year, but

437
00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:57,840
Speaker 1: the longer you put in, the more you're rewarded. So

438
00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:00,000
Speaker 1: you're setting up a plan of Okay, I could random

439
00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,679
Speaker 1: the draw something, I have something planned out, and then

440
00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:04,760
Speaker 1: I have a better chance of randomly drawing something the

441
00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:07,639
Speaker 1: longer I do it. Now you pick what you're you

442
00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,520
Speaker 1: want to hunt, because the thing about a draw tag

443
00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:14,960
Speaker 1: is you're gonna have a lot more opportunity because it's

444
00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:17,840
Speaker 1: it's it's similar to hunting like private land, because there's

445
00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:21,560
Speaker 1: fewer people and generally like higher age, class of animal,

446
00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:25,280
Speaker 1: like more opportunity, easier, easier in the fact of like

447
00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:30,320
Speaker 1: more opportunity. But in the meantime, you do those draws

448
00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:36,439
Speaker 1: and then you resort to a general unit when you

449
00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:39,560
Speaker 1: want to go like the counterback. Now now I'm going

450
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Speaker 1: O T C. I'm doing a general area in Wyoming, Montana, Idaho, Oregon.

451
00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:48,680
Speaker 1: Like you know, there are general units in nearly every

452
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Speaker 1: state for some species. Nevada is the only state that

453
00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:54,440
Speaker 1: does not have a gent or one of the only

454
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Speaker 1: states that doesn't have some general unit for something. But

455
00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:02,560
Speaker 1: there are you know, tags that might be easier to draw, um,

456
00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,800
Speaker 1: so that that's where you're gonna get your experience and

457
00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:08,520
Speaker 1: you do that, you want to like do that. Your

458
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:10,520
Speaker 1: first year you started playing like Okay, now I'm gonna

459
00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:14,760
Speaker 1: go out west. For the planning process, I use a

460
00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:16,840
Speaker 1: lot of maps and then you're just gonna have to

461
00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:19,959
Speaker 1: do your research. Um, that on x app is incredible

462
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:23,440
Speaker 1: for planning. Like even me who hunts, like I used

463
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:25,760
Speaker 1: I used to use paper maps. Now I use on

464
00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:29,160
Speaker 1: x maps like there's so many like layers and all

465
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:33,600
Speaker 1: this other stuff. And then just read articles on elk

466
00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,600
Speaker 1: hunting what you're looking for, Like I don't know, there's

467
00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:40,399
Speaker 1: probably a library somewhere of thirty articles that I've written

468
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:42,960
Speaker 1: on how to find elk spots. I don't know how

469
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:50,720
Speaker 1: you get those Western hunter like like get get like

470
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:54,479
Speaker 1: those magazines. Don't don't subscribe to the magazines that like

471
00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:57,080
Speaker 1: you're just about I don't like not even Magaze, But

472
00:23:57,119 --> 00:24:00,240
Speaker 1: like anything, there's stuff that like deep dives into you

473
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,520
Speaker 1: how to get the how to stuff, And if that's

474
00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 1: not fun to you, you probably should just quit. Like

475
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:08,600
Speaker 1: it's it's fun to me and it's interesting to me

476
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 1: to to do the research, find a spot and realize

477
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:14,640
Speaker 1: when you get to that fucking spot that there are

478
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,200
Speaker 1: animals there and you were right, like and then that's

479
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:20,399
Speaker 1: your spot. Well like like it. My I don't like

480
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,280
Speaker 1: to do um. I don't like to do like the

481
00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:27,480
Speaker 1: draw research or the tag research or any of that stuff.

482
00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:30,080
Speaker 1: So I turned that over to my brother. Like, but

483
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,359
Speaker 1: what I really really thrive on is is once I

484
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,600
Speaker 1: have an area narrowed down, I love digging into that area.

485
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:38,800
Speaker 1: You know, So um, you have to kind of like

486
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,680
Speaker 1: there there's ways to get around things that you don't

487
00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:44,240
Speaker 1: like to be in order to focus on the things

488
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 1: that you do like, you know, so every person is

489
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,480
Speaker 1: going to be different. And if all of this is

490
00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,080
Speaker 1: just too overwhelming and too daunting, like I say, you know,

491
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 1: go with an outfit or something and experience it. Because

492
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 1: the thing of it is, if you're not experiencing the

493
00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:00,679
Speaker 1: West and experiencing those hunts, you and dream about all

494
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:02,480
Speaker 1: you want until you put a plan in motion and

495
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:04,680
Speaker 1: actually go out and do it, then you really Then

496
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 1: you figure out if you've really got a taste for it.

497
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,240
Speaker 1: And when you get a taste for it, then there's

498
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,639
Speaker 1: no stopping. There's plenty of folks, plenty of folks that

499
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 1: just don't have the time to do what we're talking about,

500
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 1: you know, to do what remedy is talking about. So yeah,

501
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:19,359
Speaker 1: there are the shortcuts to it, and then you can

502
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 1: decide whether this is the way you want to go.

503
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 1: I want one. You want to playing if you're playing

504
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,840
Speaker 1: in a single Western hunt every year and doing all

505
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:29,120
Speaker 1: the research starting in February, starting in January, and doing

506
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,200
Speaker 1: all the research, then once you draw your tag or

507
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 1: once you have your areas spotted, then you're gonna continue

508
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,680
Speaker 1: to research that area, maybe make a scouting trip in July,

509
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 1: and then go do your hunt in September. Like that.

510
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 1: That's a badass way to spend your time. The cool

511
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,639
Speaker 1: thing about like remedy strategy, that's that's pretty much what

512
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:46,439
Speaker 1: I do, other than I don't put in for that

513
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:50,200
Speaker 1: many states. But you're you can hunt elk every year.

514
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,480
Speaker 1: I get a hunt elk every year because now that

515
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:55,879
Speaker 1: obviously I was from Idaho, so I have my spot

516
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 1: where I go. But when you're coming out and you

517
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:01,359
Speaker 1: you come out and have a great experien rians, I guess, well,

518
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,040
Speaker 1: all of a sudden you got your spot, and all

519
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 1: you got you over the counter spot you can go

520
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 1: to every year and then just kind of branch out

521
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 1: and expand that territory and move territories. But once you've

522
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 1: done it once, all the all the mystery, all the fear,

523
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,160
Speaker 1: everything else is out of the way, and now it's

524
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 1: like baller man, this is gonna be sweeping. I just

525
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:23,320
Speaker 1: moved to Monte and I'm refusing any spots, any suggestions.

526
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 1: Don't tell me where. I don't want to know where

527
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,639
Speaker 1: to go. I just wanna. If I fail for a

528
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:30,160
Speaker 1: couple of years, that's great. I don't give a ship.

529
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 1: I would much rather do it on my own fine spots,

530
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 1: you know, wake up early in the morning to hike

531
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 1: in and find there's eight other guys in there. I'd

532
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,359
Speaker 1: rather do it that way and be able to kind

533
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 1: of get the intellectual property my own, my own way,

534
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,199
Speaker 1: whether it takes me longer, or I get lucky and

535
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:50,800
Speaker 1: find some some spots around town. Who knows, But I

536
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,359
Speaker 1: want to go through it, you know, unfettered and just

537
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,440
Speaker 1: and get it. I think Tim brought up a good point,

538
00:26:56,520 --> 00:27:00,159
Speaker 1: and it's something that I actually do as well. Is

539
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,640
Speaker 1: sometimes like the research. I mean, like I I put

540
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 1: a lot of research into like applications of things. But

541
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,920
Speaker 1: I've also done that my entire life. But another thing

542
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 1: that I do is when you have a tag, you're

543
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 1: better off to just pick an area right like you can.

544
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 1: The first time I ever went elk cunning in a

545
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,680
Speaker 1: fog nack was not because I heard of a fog nack.

546
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:27,400
Speaker 1: Nobody heard of a fogna el before before I never

547
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:31,440
Speaker 1: knew nothing about it. I randomly applied for it because

548
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,439
Speaker 1: I figured if I drew a tag there, then I

549
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 1: would spend my time figuring it out. So I do

550
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 1: that in a lot of states. Room. You showed me

551
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 1: that in the last year. I just want to just

552
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 1: generally know what's going on and apply for all apply

553
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:46,160
Speaker 1: for like, pick a random unit in someplace that's easy

554
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 1: to draw, apply for it. You're like, Okay, don't worry

555
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 1: about is it a good hunt? Is it? This? Is

556
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:54,399
Speaker 1: it that? It doesn't matter. Once you have that spot,

557
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 1: now you've focused your energy. Like That's the nice thing

558
00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:02,400
Speaker 1: about having a unit you apply for is it forces you,

559
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 1: It gives it narrows down nine western states into one region,

560
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:10,400
Speaker 1: and from that region, now you can do your research

561
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,399
Speaker 1: and hunt that region. Don't don't get so caught up

562
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 1: in the detail of where am I going to go?

563
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 1: What's the best place to go this that thing. Just

564
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,200
Speaker 1: pick a random place and focus on it. You will

565
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:23,919
Speaker 1: find a good hunt everywhere you go. People. There's areas

566
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 1: where people say there's no animals there, this area sucks.

567
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:30,400
Speaker 1: You can have a good hunt one one, just need one,

568
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 1: don't need a hundred of them. Yeah, it doesn't matter. Yeah,

569
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 1: just go pick a spot and and start. Just do it.

570
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 1: That's probably the best advice I've heard on it. This

571
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 1: is like, just do it. Just sorry, just get just

572
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 1: get it, because it just depends on what you want

573
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 1: out of it too, you know. I mean, if if

574
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 1: you're if you are a truly just a trophy mindset,

575
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 1: which we we we all probably have friends that have

576
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 1: that mindset, then really just the limited draws, that's your strategy,

577
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 1: and you're you've made it harder for yourself phone, which

578
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 1: just fine, limited, what's fuew Honestly, it's right or wrong,

579
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 1: or it's whatever you want to do, put in the

580
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 1: bounds along. But if you just want to hunt every

581
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 1: year and just rack up experience to increase your odds

582
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 1: so that when you do finally merge into that trophy game,

583
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 1: that you're gonna actually be able to do it, you know.

584
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 1: So I'm speaking probably more of the younger crowd that

585
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 1: wants to kill big deer and big elk right off

586
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 1: the bat. But you know, maybe maybe your skill levels

587
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 1: not quite there, maybe your mentor you don't have the

588
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 1: right mentors to take you in. What there's nothing wrong

589
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 1: with just learning and hunting and experiencing hunting. Yeah, we've

590
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 1: got a lot of you know, a lot of people

591
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 1: that listen to this or like, I'm thirty years old

592
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 1: and I'm just started hunting, and all I see on

593
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 1: social media or wherever I'm taking in media is dudes

594
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 1: killing big bulls and big bucks out west. How do

595
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 1: I get that? I'm like, well, thirty years of experience.

596
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 1: May the people you're watching have put in the experience.

597
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 1: You're just not watching the experience. You're just watching the

598
00:29:56,880 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 1: result and success a lot of times. So it's it's

599
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 1: to slow it down and just go hunt, like you

600
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 1: can just go and and do a little bit of exploration.

601
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 1: I feel like you're already speeding it up if you're

602
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 1: if you're starting with elk like you, if you if

603
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 1: you've never hunted the West, there's just so like, go

604
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 1: on some turkeys in the spring, Go go spot stalk

605
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 1: a black bear. Like there's there's things that you can

606
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 1: do that aren't as I would say intensive as elk hunting.

607
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 1: You know that you get to learn the country and

608
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 1: learn the places. You also have to be realistic of

609
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 1: where you're hunting. I think you get I think a

610
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 1: lot of people just see all these elk pictures. They're like, oh, yeah,

611
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 1: it's these giant six by six. Is do you shoot

612
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 1: a six by six in a general area? You're for

613
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 1: the day or the week, depending on where you're at.

614
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 1: So you have to be realistic when I'm in like,

615
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 1: I love mule deer hunting. I love mule deer hunting.

616
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 1: I love hunting big mule deer, mature box, you know,

617
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 1: good scoring box. That's my thing. But if I'm in

618
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 1: an area that doesn't have those, then that's not what

619
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 1: I'm looking for. You look at the best rep presentation

620
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 1: of where you are, right and so you have to

621
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 1: be realistic when I hunt elk in general area. I

622
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 1: just looked to hunt illegal bull. When I have a

623
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 1: special draw tag, I am extremely extremely picky on what

624
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 1: I shoot, and the elk that I shoot on a

625
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 1: limited draw tag is going to be a completely different

626
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 1: representation of what hell cunting is than another area that

627
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 1: I have just as much fun in just shooting a

628
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 1: raghorn bull. Whenever drew that tag at the Western Hunting Expo,

629
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 1: I felt like some I got lucky as hell to

630
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 1: draw this. I feel some sort of you know, responsibility

631
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,239
Speaker 1: to everyone else that applied to go and do my

632
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 1: work and set an expectation that's abubble where I would

633
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 1: normally be. I'm from the East coast. If you take

634
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 1: me to Utah and plot me in the woods man,

635
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna hike up a mountain and see a three

636
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 1: twenty bull and whack it like yeah, I got no

637
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 1: problem with that. First day, last day, fifth day, fourth day,

638
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 1: don't care. But when I had that tag in my pocket,

639
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:58,239
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, I gotta I gotta switch something else on

640
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 1: here again. I gotta leave my East Coast behind because

641
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 1: because I owe it to you know, all the people

642
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 1: that wishes whish they drew this tag like I did. Yeah,

643
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 1: but your barrier of entry was really not a lot

644
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 1: different than and over the counter tag, you know, so

645
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 1: theoretically it could have been just like an exploratory over

646
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 1: the counter hunt in Idaho, you know, for that matter.

647
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 1: So as long as you got the hunked out of

648
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 1: it that you wanted and the experience that you wanted,

649
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 1: that's good. And that's that's the biggest things. I think

650
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 1: Guys just kind of have to look at this as

651
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 1: is hunting going to be a part of my life?

652
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 1: You know? Is it gonna be something that I want

653
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 1: to do for the long term and to bring my

654
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 1: kids up in and my family or my friends, or

655
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 1: is it just something that I want. I just want

656
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 1: recognition for killing the biggest stuff out that scrap perspective

657
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 1: right there, man, Like that's yeah, what are you what

658
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 1: are you trying to get? And it's like, I mean,

659
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 1: do you want to do it for your whole life

660
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 1: and then enjoy it? Don't put distressing yourself on it

661
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 1: that you're not gonna you're only gonna kill one animal

662
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 1: every three or four or five or six years, because

663
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 1: you're only gonna draw that that special tag that often.

664
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, man, just there's so many like and

665
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 1: there's so many options if you if we continue to

666
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 1: go down like just specifically in the West, there's so

667
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 1: many I've I've I had a outfitted elkhun and Evanston,

668
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 1: Wyoming with my dad a couple of years ago, and

669
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 1: we just were like, men, let's just grab a leftover

670
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 1: Anaalo tag and Wyoming because we're gonna be driving through there.

671
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 1: Let's just grab a leftover tag and we'll tackle on

672
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:19,239
Speaker 1: two or three extra days in our hunts so if

673
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 1: we can get it done. We grabbed uh two leftover

674
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 1: tags right near Lusk, Wyoming, which is up in the

675
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 1: middle of nowhere, and all us on the South Dakota

676
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 1: border and um eastern central Wyoming. No research. We had

677
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 1: a couple of maps, went out there with a garment,

678
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 1: GPS and a map, drive to the first piece of

679
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 1: state ground and a unit where they said they were

680
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 1: almost no antelope and we had almost we had like

681
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 1: a ninety six percent chance of failure and shot two

682
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:46,959
Speaker 1: bucks on the first piece of mile long state ground

683
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 1: that we came to. Was that luck fux, Yes it was,

684
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 1: but but we just we just did it, and we didn't.

685
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 1: We had no expectations other than we'll see some cool country.

686
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 1: We gotta be there anyway, Let's see if we can

687
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 1: get it into know if you're going into a trophy

688
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 1: area and then it's like, oh, a lot of pressure.

689
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 1: That's a big buck. But is that the biggest buck?

690
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 1: You know? What am I gonna get out of it? Yeah? Yeah?

691
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 1: And then in the case where you're just like flipping

692
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:12,240
Speaker 1: the coin to see if they're even be an antelope

693
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,840
Speaker 1: anywhere around where you're gonna be. Um, that's how it is.

694
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:17,840
Speaker 1: And then we we spent a couple other days just

695
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:21,240
Speaker 1: riding around that unit looking for for antalope, just checking

696
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 1: it out, and didn't see. Maybe we've probably saw fifty

697
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 1: antelope in two days out other than the two that

698
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:29,400
Speaker 1: we shot. So you know, the chances were we weren't

699
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,400
Speaker 1: gonna get bucks, but we did. So it's cool and

700
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 1: take the chance man, that experience for my dad and

701
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 1: I'll be when we remember forever. We talked about it

702
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 1: all the time. So it's worth rolling than dice. Sometimes

703
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 1: it's the long game, you know. It's something that you

704
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 1: can do God willing forever, you know, as long as

705
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 1: our rights don't get taken away. So why why are

706
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 1: we in such a rush? You know? And I don't

707
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 1: I'm guilty of it too, but it's like why do

708
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 1: I want so much so fast? You know? Um? I

709
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 1: think we just need to slow down and just realize

710
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 1: this is this is part of our culture and our

711
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,799
Speaker 1: heritage and our lifestyle. And that's what I'm gonna do

712
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 1: with my life is just hunt and gather and and

713
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 1: enjoy it. You know. Yeah, you know it's a that

714
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 1: it becomes a craft, right, becomes the craft instead of

715
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 1: something that you just do to get to get the

716
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 1: result of the adulation or whatever it is that you're after. Yeah.

717
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 1: A friend of mine that I just met here with

718
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 1: his boys there that I introduced Remy to, he was

719
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 1: he brought up my my younger brother, boyd, you know,

720
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,400
Speaker 1: and he's like, it's so cool how your brother is

721
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 1: more than just a hunter. You know. He's out there

722
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 1: trapping beavers and I saw that his daughter made a

723
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,360
Speaker 1: knife sheath out of the beaver tail that they had trapped.

724
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 1: And then he's out there making arrows and doing us

725
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 1: and he's like, your brother, it's really his life, isn't it.

726
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 1: It's his lifestyle. Like man, he's been like that since

727
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 1: he was twelve. You know. There's more to it than

728
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 1: just just going out on a hunt. There's all these

729
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 1: little nuances that are that are related to hunting, and

730
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 1: then the nuances that are related to the nuances that

731
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 1: just create this overall general lifestyle that is that I

732
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 1: think is pretty dangn cool. Yeah so do. I mean

733
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,279
Speaker 1: that's it's making those like it's for people that watch

734
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 1: and listen, and making those things cool was important. Like

735
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:02,880
Speaker 1: making those things just as trendy is going out and

736
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 1: killing a big bull like that. Those things are those

737
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 1: things are key because it's it's those little things that

738
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,319
Speaker 1: you come to you come to appreciate, like pickling the

739
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:13,360
Speaker 1: gizzard off. You know, if a fucking duck or something,

740
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 1: it's like just as cool as pick pickled duck is.

741
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 1: Do you like that or anymore? I've never had a

742
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,799
Speaker 1: pickled duck gizzard? It sounds good, though. I had one

743
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 1: of Ronella's house the other day. It's pretty good. It's

744
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:24,360
Speaker 1: pretty good. Or maybe it was a Goose gives or

745
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 1: one of the one of the two. I just like

746
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 1: them in butter and onions. Yeah. Well, um, I'm you're

747
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:32,240
Speaker 1: gonna you guys have to bear with me. I'm testing

748
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 1: out some segments, right. I don't normally we just talking

749
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 1: bullshit like we're you know, like we're doing now. But

750
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 1: I'm testing out segments to see if people want to

751
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:44,399
Speaker 1: hear like actual uh directed conversation or they just want

752
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 1: to hear bullshit. UM. So the first segment that I'm

753
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:51,879
Speaker 1: working on, it's called first Timers. And you gotta you guys,

754
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 1: gotta tell me. We're gonna start with your first car.

755
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:58,319
Speaker 1: Just describe your first vehicle, who gave it to you,

756
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 1: and h the experience from me. Take it away. You're

757
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:08,399
Speaker 1: in if you paint the picture. If you knew me.

758
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 1: When I got my first car, it was called the

759
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 1: Rambo truck. It was a lifted nineteen five single cab

760
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 1: dodge ram with uh. It was painted bass, was a

761
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:28,399
Speaker 1: matt Tan and I did my own desert camo on it,

762
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 1: right as you would Rambo. And it was lifted. I

763
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:36,359
Speaker 1: think I had I had five on it, um and

764
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 1: and no, no sissy step you know what I'm saying.

765
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 1: If you didn't have a mullet and a cowboy hat,

766
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:46,239
Speaker 1: this start right. And I had a toolbox in the

767
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 1: back that um that I could lock and put my

768
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 1: bow in or whatever, um guns, whatever. And then I

769
00:37:56,640 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 1: got a caravan key Emperor shell for it, but I'd

770
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 1: already cammed it, so I did. Then I painted the

771
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 1: whole thing um like green, and then had the caravan

772
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 1: camper on it. So it was like like like an

773
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 1: olive green like slick looking and not matt it was.

774
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 1: It was a more shiny finish, had a little bit

775
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 1: of sheen to it, and that truck was just an

776
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 1: off road east You got it when you're sixteen. When

777
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 1: I was seventeen, because I wait, oh well that was

778
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 1: a thing. I had the option of driving when I

779
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:38,240
Speaker 1: was sixteen or getting uh Winchester three hund short mags.

780
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 1: So I used my money to Chester in a short

781
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 1: mag because I was like, I can continue to borrow vehicles,

782
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 1: but I can't borrow Winchester three w s M which

783
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 1: had just come out, and I wanted that gun went

784
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 1: browning able stainless Stalker three WSM for the price of

785
00:38:57,040 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 1: a year. That Now, when you're taking ladies on dates

786
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 1: during those years, you would how would you get them

787
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 1: up in the truck? Would you have to it was

788
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 1: like a jump thing. Would you have to tell them

789
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 1: to jump? Or like would you put your hand down

790
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 1: when they step in your hand to get up in there?

791
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 1: Push them by their butt? Yeah, push them in there?

792
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, it just it just depends. Like I'd

793
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 1: drive up to a hill or like um, you know,

794
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:22,320
Speaker 1: and then actually women actually had to give my neighbor

795
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:25,880
Speaker 1: I would give her rights to uh school as well,

796
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:29,360
Speaker 1: and like at one point you just like screw it

797
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 1: and just like kept a step ladder on the back

798
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 1: like a step but yeah, right about how long did

799
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:39,800
Speaker 1: you keep the Rambow truck? Um? I had that until

800
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:44,720
Speaker 1: I was probably twenty something because well, when the gas

801
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:47,799
Speaker 1: prices started going up, it just got when gas was

802
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 1: under a dollar accounton, it was super easy to like

803
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:52,359
Speaker 1: it didn't really matter. Were around the same age when

804
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 1: I got my when I got my license, like eighty

805
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:56,400
Speaker 1: five cents again, so and then it jacked up to

806
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 1: about two bucks and you get like six miles to

807
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:00,360
Speaker 1: the gallon and can't fit anybody else in it. So

808
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 1: then I got um uh, I got a what are

809
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 1: they like from one of those police auctions where they

810
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:13,240
Speaker 1: like repo stolen whatever. I got a like a Forward

811
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 1: Ranger at one of those for fourteen hundred bucks, and

812
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 1: it was like pretty new. It was pretty solid deal.

813
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 1: I had a Ford Ranger that was my second, a

814
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 1: Ford Ranger Edge like two thousand two maybe, Like, did

815
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:26,319
Speaker 1: you have the step side? I did have the step

816
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 1: side because red that wasn't red. I was black. Mine

817
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 1: was red, not because I wanted red, but that's that's

818
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:35,759
Speaker 1: what I got. Yeah, you're a flash type of guy.

819
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:38,759
Speaker 1: Red step side and it was low like I went

820
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 1: from I could have drove over this forward Ranger in

821
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:45,399
Speaker 1: my other truck, but it was it was an offer

822
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 1: Red Beast too, like they were pretty good. I wanted

823
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 1: a little bit smaller vehicle to navigate the hills, a

824
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 1: little bit rangers. Man, they'll kick out, kick ass off

825
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:55,879
Speaker 1: for dude, right, Tim, What what about you? So mine?

826
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:57,880
Speaker 1: I don't know what year. It was, like a nineteen

827
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:01,280
Speaker 1: eighty or eighty two Toyo to pick up the small

828
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 1: ones whatever they were called way back then. It was

829
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 1: it actually, I think used to be my grandfather's truck,

830
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 1: and then my parents ended up with the truck at

831
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:12,400
Speaker 1: some point, but it was broken down in the backyard.

832
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:14,799
Speaker 1: The muffler was off, there was no hood on the thing,

833
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 1: and um my dad said, if you can get that

834
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 1: truck running, then you can drive that to school, And

835
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:22,359
Speaker 1: so me and my brothers went out. We ended up

836
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 1: getting this truck running, but it didn't have a hood,

837
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 1: so I would drive it to school with no muffler

838
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:30,879
Speaker 1: on it. It was the loudest thing that you could

839
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 1: ever imagine. Yeah, it's like, oh, here comes the Burnetts

840
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 1: in the in the Toyota. So in shop class, UM,

841
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 1: I got this idea that I wanted to build some

842
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 1: bumpers for it. So Mr Roach he found me some

843
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 1: like nine inch round steel that I made these bumpers,

844
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:49,800
Speaker 1: and I remember the rear bumper weighed like three hundred

845
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 1: and sixty pounds or something. The front bumper was just

846
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 1: this giant, you know, bar of steel, and I just

847
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 1: welded it to the brackets. Um. And I had that

848
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,359
Speaker 1: truck for about two months. My brothers and I were

849
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:05,879
Speaker 1: out bahing in the backfield and the battery bounced out

850
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 1: or something landed on the boat or just zapped and

851
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 1: just blew up the entire thing. And so that truck

852
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 1: was pretty short lived. Under my rerange. You didn't you

853
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:16,360
Speaker 1: didn't put the batter well, you know, I had the

854
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 1: hood that I was messing with in shop class, and

855
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 1: I didn't know how to get the dance out of it,

856
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:22,400
Speaker 1: so I just filled it with putty and so it

857
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 1: was just all cracked and broken, and so pretty much

858
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 1: of the time we just left the hood off, so

859
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:34,359
Speaker 1: it's pretty pretty red neck ish. What year was that then? Yea,

860
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 1: like a you have like did you have a mullet?

861
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 1: Were you full redneck? Or look at I was the

862
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:48,720
Speaker 1: butch kid because we grow growing up on the farm.

863
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 1: Mom cut our hair or grandma cut our hair, and

864
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,319
Speaker 1: there was enough of us boys that it had to

865
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:55,839
Speaker 1: be an event that didn't happen very often. So they

866
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 1: shaved us all the way down like they would have sheep,

867
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 1: and we were We would wear that for you know,

868
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:03,360
Speaker 1: a month or two and then we'd get shaved again.

869
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 1: You know. So this shavy like a shape that was

870
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:09,280
Speaker 1: my hair do until I think junior high. I finally

871
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 1: wore a spike hair do because one of my buddies

872
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 1: had a flat top. I wanted a flat top, but

873
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:19,279
Speaker 1: mom couldn't figure out how to you know, you butcher it.

874
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 1: So it's just it was like a round, spiky flat top. Remy,

875
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:26,280
Speaker 1: I gotta hear about your what's your like high school

876
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 1: attire memories like what's your what's your signature? Look? You

877
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 1: have to have like oh man, we'll signature look. I

878
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 1: don't know. I was jeans and anything that didn't have

879
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 1: the sogo on it. Yeah, I was really weird about

880
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 1: I didn't want to be I couldn't fit into any logo.

881
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:48,400
Speaker 1: So I was like, I'm look, I'm not a Nike. Yeah,

882
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 1: you know, maybe I would. I don't know, maybe I

883
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:54,359
Speaker 1: have like a I think I wore vests. I now

884
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:55,799
Speaker 1: I won't even put a vest on. You're kind of

885
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 1: a vest guy. But I got to pick vest thing

886
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:01,280
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't. I I wore the vest a lot,

887
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:04,400
Speaker 1: you know, and then I just I can't invest it

888
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 1: up anymore. My sister in law is in like high fashion,

889
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:12,240
Speaker 1: and she told me third piece, third piece, which means

890
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:16,839
Speaker 1: like it's a scarf like Scott, so you can maybe

891
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:20,359
Speaker 1: start wearing an ascot the third pieces like a It's

892
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 1: a very big deal in the fashion world. So I thought,

893
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 1: I'll just wear a vest, my third pieces the hat.

894
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:27,400
Speaker 1: And I woren a hat every day since I was

895
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 1: eight years old. Isn't that weird? Pretty much? I don't

896
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:32,880
Speaker 1: know if I've ever not, Like, you don't even recognize

897
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:35,839
Speaker 1: a podcast to turn someone to take your hat off,

898
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 1: and I was like, I just don't. But I've had

899
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 1: it's a weird thing to think, like I've had a

900
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 1: beard since I was eighteen. And I started shaving when

901
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 1: I was twelve. And then I've had a like my

902
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 1: parents wouldn't let me have, but it wasn't it was

903
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:52,759
Speaker 1: kind of whispy, you know when you're thirteen four team

904
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:57,239
Speaker 1: and then and then yeah and then a hat. You know.

905
00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 1: I would take it off for school, but as soon

906
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:03,239
Speaker 1: as I back in Little Rambo came on, Yeah, I

907
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:06,799
Speaker 1: would park. I would park off the I wouldn't park

908
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 1: at school because I would never have a truck that

909
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 1: didn't have a gun in it. Like I always thought

910
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 1: that was sacrilegious, like to have a to have a

911
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:16,840
Speaker 1: truck that does And I had the gun rack in

912
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 1: the back, but I didn't put gun and unless I

913
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:21,840
Speaker 1: was once I was booty bash and then it was

914
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 1: guns and back, you know. But I think I thought

915
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 1: it was like sacrilegious to have like a good truck

916
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 1: that didn't have a gun. I don't think that was

917
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:32,800
Speaker 1: an issue at our school. I don't ever remember. I

918
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 1: mean we had gun racks in the truck and everything.

919
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:36,880
Speaker 1: Definitely an issue in my school was because I was

920
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 1: I feel like I was coming up like coming of

921
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:42,319
Speaker 1: Asian High School right around the Columbine thing. So I

922
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:45,319
Speaker 1: was with the happy recipient of all the restrictions of

923
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 1: all the ship they were trying to do after Columbine.

924
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,279
Speaker 1: And so there was like we couldn't wear jackets in

925
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:52,880
Speaker 1: the hallways when I was, you couldn't wear like a

926
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 1: long jacket or a jacket. You had to get you

927
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 1: had to get a pass to go to the bathroom.

928
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:58,800
Speaker 1: It's like I couldn't have a gun anywhere near school,

929
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 1: let alone in your truck. See, my elementary school was

930
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 1: at the time out it's outside of Reno, and it

931
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:09,239
Speaker 1: was a lot small now towns like moved out to

932
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 1: that area. But where I went to elementary school on

933
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 1: I think it was it was probably I don't know

934
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:18,400
Speaker 1: what grade you ten, about fourth or fifth grade or whatever.

935
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 1: For show and tell, I brought my single shot four

936
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 1: ten and the principles. The only thing was don't bring

937
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 1: it loaded, like my dad had to be. Like my

938
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 1: dad came in and like dropped it. He's like, you

939
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 1: can't keep it here, but you can bring it in

940
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:34,880
Speaker 1: for that and just couldn't be loaded, you know. And

941
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 1: I went over the check. Yeah, we checked it, and

942
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:39,920
Speaker 1: I did the show and tell and told the class

943
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:42,839
Speaker 1: like never pointed anything you don't intend to kill, like

944
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 1: you know, first hunting experience two years earlier with the

945
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 1: fourth single shot four ten, Like this isn't that funny? Like, well,

946
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 1: you could never do that today When we were kids,

947
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:56,400
Speaker 1: we talked about it on another podcast I did, but

948
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:58,759
Speaker 1: they used to at a certain period of time in

949
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 1: the fifth grade I think or ex grade, it was like, well,

950
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:03,439
Speaker 1: now it's on our safety time, you know, this week

951
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 1: and so within in the school as you go and

952
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 1: you do hunter safety, driver's education was the same way.

953
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:11,319
Speaker 1: It's like it's time, everybody's gonna go do it. Well, yeah,

954
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 1: I mean in Pennsylvania and Maryland, like like they you

955
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 1: get off for opening day right season, you got off school.

956
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 1: You're off school like the day before I think, and

957
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 1: the day at like the Friday and the Monday maybe

958
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:22,280
Speaker 1: something like that. I can't remember. That was spud harvest

959
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 1: for us. Now you're now you're being Idaho and you know,

960
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 1: but yeah, I mean we we get off school for

961
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 1: opening day, like open day hunting season. You got off school.

962
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:35,919
Speaker 1: You like that is you cannot imagine that right now.

963
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:38,360
Speaker 1: And I'm not talking I'm thirty three, I'm not talking

964
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 1: like a long long time ago. It's not that long ago,

965
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 1: but things so fast and so you know, it's just weird.

966
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 1: And there's still are places like where Kim grew up.

967
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 1: They probably haven't changed too much. No, they've changed it now.

968
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 1: They go to school four days a week instead of five.

969
00:47:56,880 --> 00:48:00,120
Speaker 1: They don't do hunter safety in school anymore. Um, they

970
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:03,279
Speaker 1: don't do driver's ed in school anymore. But I think

971
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 1: they still let you out for spud harvest. You gotta

972
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 1: keep that traditional. Must be hard. But the school, I

973
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 1: think the school is probably the same size. There's been

974
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:15,279
Speaker 1: no growth, it's just different people, you know, the ones

975
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:17,920
Speaker 1: that stayed alive. Well, my next the next part of

976
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:19,759
Speaker 1: this was first rifle. But we so we already know

977
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 1: Remy's first rifle. No, that wasn't my first. That was

978
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:25,240
Speaker 1: your first rifle. Give us first rifle. The first rifle

979
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 1: I ever received was a youth model Remington's seven two

980
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:36,759
Speaker 1: three topped with a Burris three to nine. Um, no,

981
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 1: not Burris Bush now. And you know I give bush

982
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 1: Noll a lot of ship. That's that scope privately given

983
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 1: just when you're out there just whatever. But yeah, that

984
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 1: was that was a good scope. I still have that

985
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 1: that set up that rifle set up that way, I

986
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:01,839
Speaker 1: was gonna swap it out, maybe put a new new

987
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:05,760
Speaker 1: stock on it and short barrel. It's got the open

988
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 1: sites but scope over the top. Yeah, yeah, it is

989
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:12,799
Speaker 1: good and I should do that anymore. Any any companies

990
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 1: advertised the the open sites and the scope out of

991
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:20,839
Speaker 1: the top, the open rings, Yes, Socco does they still. Yeah,

992
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 1: they've got well they're bigger boar rifles, but you can

993
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 1: order them because of the European running games situation. Yeah,

994
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 1: but I'll tell you what, man, you can shoot really

995
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 1: accurate with some open sites. I'm thinking about just going

996
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:36,439
Speaker 1: open sights on some rife from open sites. How much

997
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 1: more fun is it with a rifle to stock in?

998
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:41,400
Speaker 1: You know? The long range thing I've I've done. I

999
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 1: mean I was in that crowd that was like pioneering

1000
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 1: and long range let me tell you. But once you've

1001
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 1: done it, now you're kind of thinking. And I remember

1002
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 1: when I just used to hunt with open sites, and

1003
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 1: I also had about the same time I had an

1004
00:49:55,600 --> 00:50:00,319
Speaker 1: open site, so it was kind of I would whap

1005
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 1: on my first deer hunt, taking the open site thirty

1006
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 1: thirty and the scope to forty three depending on the type.

1007
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 1: Of terrain that I was going because if I was

1008
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 1: in the tall stage, we're busting up bucks, We're going,

1009
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:16,440
Speaker 1: we're swinging level. Yeah. I started hunt with a hawking

1010
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 1: uh fifty cow freaking passion roundball, spitting on the patch,

1011
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:24,480
Speaker 1: dump the powder, put the roundball in with a little starter,

1012
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:26,399
Speaker 1: you know. That's how I started runs. It was open

1013
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:28,759
Speaker 1: sites for quite a while until I got my first

1014
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:31,839
Speaker 1: rifle with a scope rifle at least um, So that's

1015
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 1: how it started for me. What about you, Tim? Was

1016
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:37,240
Speaker 1: I used Dad's had a Winchester thirty thirty lever action,

1017
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 1: but I used on my first two deer actually um

1018
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 1: and then he had also a two twenty three over

1019
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 1: under hinge action twenty gauge, I believe, UM. And I

1020
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:50,080
Speaker 1: killed a couple of deer with that when I was

1021
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:54,319
Speaker 1: Stevens or I want to say Thompson, but I don't

1022
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 1: really know for sure. Um, and it had another had

1023
00:50:57,120 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 1: one of those you know bronze the burrist hopes on

1024
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:02,279
Speaker 1: it or whatever it was. So I kind of went

1025
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 1: back and forth between those. And then when I was

1026
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:06,680
Speaker 1: a senior in high school, I bought a gun from

1027
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:09,880
Speaker 1: the neighbor down the street from bart Wanstrom. It was

1028
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 1: a thirty. It was a thirty excuse me, a thirty

1029
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 1: at six pump. Remington's no scope and he sent me

1030
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 1: a ten shot clip with it. So, um, I remember

1031
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:23,880
Speaker 1: the first time I thought, I'm gonna go out and

1032
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:26,600
Speaker 1: just run through this clip as fast as I can

1033
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 1: with this pump action thirty at six, And that didn't

1034
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 1: feel very good. Dad is here? He just walked. I

1035
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 1: had another set of headphones. Podcast guest. That's the guy.

1036
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 1: He's got. He's got some wild stories. He doesn't say

1037
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:47,920
Speaker 1: right now, they're sure we're telling the truth. He's going

1038
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:50,719
Speaker 1: to tell stories that Remy doesn't even remember. I'm sure. Well,

1039
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:53,759
Speaker 1: let's see, the Rambo truck was originally his truck. He

1040
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 1: he that was our hunting truck, and then that got

1041
00:51:56,239 --> 00:52:00,960
Speaker 1: passed down. So it's a long line of loving like

1042
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:05,239
Speaker 1: Rambo big trucks. I named it. You have to you

1043
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:07,399
Speaker 1: have to name a truck. But okay, is this here's

1044
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:09,719
Speaker 1: here's a question. What was the name of your first

1045
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 1: truck or the names of your vehicles? And can you

1046
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 1: name a new vehicle. It's hard to name a new vehicle.

1047
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 1: But if you want to have a personal relationship with

1048
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:19,799
Speaker 1: the vehicle. You kind of have to give it a name.

1049
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:23,239
Speaker 1: I name my guns too. I name my guns I

1050
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:26,759
Speaker 1: have only but like a gun to get a name

1051
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 1: for me has to have like a lifetime of female

1052
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 1: or male name. Yeah, so my I only have one

1053
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:37,239
Speaker 1: gun that I actually that has a name. But I

1054
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:39,759
Speaker 1: could name my shotgun, but I just haven't. What's the

1055
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:46,240
Speaker 1: gun that has a name? Canna? Yes? Sorry, um, but Hannah,

1056
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 1: I mean, Hannah is just a bad bitch. Hannah shot it, yeah,

1057
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 1: because I mean I use it hunting for myself, and

1058
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 1: then I also used as my guide gun, like giving

1059
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 1: to other people, and I've taken it all over the world.

1060
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:00,879
Speaker 1: I mean that gun shoots great. Still, like I haven't

1061
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 1: shot the barrel out for somehow, and I don't even

1062
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 1: know that that gun just you just point what you

1063
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 1: wanted to knock over and it's like a clean kill

1064
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:13,720
Speaker 1: every time. I think I killed my stag in my target. Yeah. Sweet,

1065
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:20,920
Speaker 1: very few of my friends have not rude here. Well, sorry, honey, Um,

1066
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:23,440
Speaker 1: you gotta named guns to I don't name him. I

1067
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:26,680
Speaker 1: named my kids. Yeah, And I did name the Solorado

1068
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:28,959
Speaker 1: that was you know, I had that truck for fifteen years.

1069
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:33,239
Speaker 1: I named the Solorado, but she since gone away. So

1070
00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 1: my first, my first vehicle. Listeners will of course know this.

1071
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 1: My first vehicle was a called a Summit Eagle, but

1072
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:43,680
Speaker 1: it was like a car van. It was like a

1073
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 1: little sound van. It was a bit it was a

1074
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 1: bit rape. It was like periwinkle blue, and it had

1075
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 1: like it looked like if you cut it in half,

1076
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:54,759
Speaker 1: you'd have like a sedan on one half and the

1077
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 1: back half was like a van. So we just called

1078
00:53:57,520 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 1: it the car van. And I mean you could fall

1079
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:01,400
Speaker 1: the seats down, you do a lot of stuff with

1080
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 1: this thing. Your hearsed. For some reason, it was it

1081
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 1: was like a hearse Oh yeah, yeah, I have to

1082
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 1: I have to google it show he goes. It looks

1083
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 1: like it's very impressive vehicle. But but I I drove

1084
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 1: that for a man, probably two or three years. Of course,

1085
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:18,839
Speaker 1: I hadhered that from my brother who inhered it from

1086
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 1: my grandfather. So it wasn't it had a bit of

1087
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:24,239
Speaker 1: a reputation, didn't have a name, It didn't really the

1088
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 1: car van. It was a Summit Eagle. That was very

1089
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:30,759
Speaker 1: I'm not embarrassed by it, but it could have been better.

1090
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:32,839
Speaker 1: It could it could have done better. So no other

1091
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:35,719
Speaker 1: vehicle names, just no new names, not like any No.

1092
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:37,680
Speaker 1: I thought about name of my new truck, but I

1093
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 1: just didn't feel it. I just didn't feel right. I

1094
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:43,359
Speaker 1: didn't feel like it had any history to it. Later on,

1095
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:46,160
Speaker 1: if I give it to my kids, Yeah, maybe I'll

1096
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:47,879
Speaker 1: give it to my kid in fifteen years and he'll

1097
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 1: he'll name it something. We had the Rambo truck, the Scorpion,

1098
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:56,719
Speaker 1: which was a nineteen eighty land Cruiser. It was Scorpion

1099
00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:59,840
Speaker 1: because we had a gambrel game hoist on the back.

1100
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 1: I mean that thing was tricked out for off road.

1101
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 1: Then the Beasts, which was an F two fifty in

1102
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:10,759
Speaker 1: the style of Rambo truck. Your dad like you, Yeah,

1103
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:14,560
Speaker 1: my dad just build. He built, like that's his hobby,

1104
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:18,440
Speaker 1: is just making off road vehicles. Has lifted his truck yet, No,

1105
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:22,200
Speaker 1: because he that's because he's got his Like he just

1106
00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:24,880
Speaker 1: like gets project cars, I guess, and like makes him

1107
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:26,719
Speaker 1: into something cool and gets rid of him. And then

1108
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:29,919
Speaker 1: again and again, like the stories that I like, I've

1109
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:34,080
Speaker 1: heard about your mom and her game spotting abilities and

1110
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:36,160
Speaker 1: then now your dad, Like I feel like you had

1111
00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:41,359
Speaker 1: like the most badass parents. Yeah, like these are this

1112
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:44,279
Speaker 1: is a top shelf experience of experience. Yet you've done

1113
00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:48,439
Speaker 1: You've done well? Yeah, done well? Um. I think that's

1114
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:51,640
Speaker 1: it for the first things. I think that, uh, that

1115
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:55,319
Speaker 1: covers pretty much like that. You think that should be

1116
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:58,360
Speaker 1: like a regular recurring situation. If you got a guess

1117
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 1: like Rammy, you know, they really could tell goods stories.

1118
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:05,839
Speaker 1: We got a good storyteller, I wouldn't done. People don't

1119
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 1: wanted to hear my first every fucking every episode, I

1120
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:11,120
Speaker 1: gotta say the same thing and we'll see how that goes.

1121
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:13,600
Speaker 1: The other one I just think about is um like

1122
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:16,799
Speaker 1: hacks hunting, hacks, like ship that you do that no

1123
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:20,200
Speaker 1: one knows that that you've just developed over the years.

1124
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:22,399
Speaker 1: I'm sure both you guys, being solo hunters and run

1125
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:26,000
Speaker 1: around by yourself, have developed things that like there, you

1126
00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 1: had a problem and you solved it, and you solved

1127
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:31,800
Speaker 1: it in a way that is repeatable for other folks.

1128
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:34,120
Speaker 1: Something in your pack, something in your truck, some kind

1129
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:38,800
Speaker 1: of trick of your trade that that you'd be willing

1130
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:41,200
Speaker 1: to share with the audience. I feel like I have

1131
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:45,080
Speaker 1: a lot of them. But just to think of, just

1132
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:51,920
Speaker 1: think of one year on the spot. Okay, um, well,

1133
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:55,120
Speaker 1: this is. I mean, it depends like if I'm filming,

1134
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:57,879
Speaker 1: like I've got a million different hacks for hunting and filming. Yeah,

1135
00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:00,080
Speaker 1: give us the I mean, yeah, that's perfect because you

1136
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:03,759
Speaker 1: know what this is, the hunting and filming yourself. I'll

1137
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:06,440
Speaker 1: tell you this is just a hunting hack that if

1138
00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:11,400
Speaker 1: you don't do this, you're an idiot. Here, here's here's

1139
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:13,759
Speaker 1: it's more of a rule, like a bow hunting rule.

1140
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:15,120
Speaker 1: And I think a lot of people have this rule,

1141
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:16,959
Speaker 1: but there's some that don't. And I've been on hunts

1142
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:18,560
Speaker 1: with people don't have this rule and spit them in

1143
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:22,640
Speaker 1: the ask. When you're bow hunting, your release is either

1144
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:25,400
Speaker 1: on your bow or on your wrist. There is no

1145
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 1: other place that release goes. It doesn't go in your pocket,

1146
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 1: doesn't go in the seat of the truck, it doesn't

1147
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:31,920
Speaker 1: when you go the bathroom. It doesn't get put anywhere else.

1148
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:38,560
Speaker 1: Because I know, there's nothing worse than hiking in four

1149
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 1: miles somewhere, especially when you're guiding and you go, oh,

1150
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:45,480
Speaker 1: there's a bowl bugling down there and the guy goes,

1151
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:50,560
Speaker 1: I don't know where my releases that it's just it's

1152
00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:52,960
Speaker 1: a pet with like a thumb release or like a

1153
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 1: lot of these, you know, the ones that Dudley's putting

1154
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:57,280
Speaker 1: out there, Carter puts out there. Um, you have to

1155
00:57:57,360 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 1: kind of you know, when I leave the house to

1156
00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:01,560
Speaker 1: go to work, I go to ease while it phone.

1157
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:04,800
Speaker 1: Like when I when I any time I take any

1158
00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:08,800
Speaker 1: break in hunting, I'm usually going like release. I would

1159
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:11,640
Speaker 1: total paper, would put a parachord on that and strap

1160
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:13,800
Speaker 1: it to my something. Yeah, I don't know that's actually

1161
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:16,919
Speaker 1: put it around your wrist. I don't know, but there's

1162
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:19,520
Speaker 1: some releases out there that aren't attached. Yeah, and that's

1163
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 1: to your wrist anymore, then you're going to have an

1164
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:27,840
Speaker 1: uphill battle for the rest of your life. Risk of release.

1165
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:30,920
Speaker 1: I've used for the last since I started hunting a

1166
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:34,840
Speaker 1: Scott mongoose. I guess it's probably I think twelve years old.

1167
00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:38,760
Speaker 1: Maybe that's that's maybe that's a suggested hack for listeners, like, yeah,

1168
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 1: figuring it out. Yeah, I mean, now, okay, create a system.

1169
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:44,840
Speaker 1: And I also when I'm in the hills, I have

1170
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 1: a system so my like you keep things in the

1171
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:51,840
Speaker 1: same pockets so when I get up, I can do

1172
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:54,000
Speaker 1: a quick pat and I know if I have everything

1173
00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:57,080
Speaker 1: or if I set my phone down, or you get

1174
00:58:57,080 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 1: in the habit of doing the hack hack Pat Black,

1175
00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 1: Pat be paranoid about the stuff that's in your pockets,

1176
00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:05,520
Speaker 1: like I gotta have my I'm always like I gotta

1177
00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:10,600
Speaker 1: have my where's my garment? Where's my always paranoid, paranoid paranoise.

1178
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:13,840
Speaker 1: Once you change it, that's when things go so especially

1179
00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:16,200
Speaker 1: if you're running on X nowadays and your phone is

1180
00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:20,280
Speaker 1: like your lifeline in a lot of ways exactly. You know,

1181
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:22,200
Speaker 1: get one of those d clips or something, clip it

1182
00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:24,160
Speaker 1: to something, make sure you have it where you can't

1183
00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:27,120
Speaker 1: fall out. Um, because we were hunting in one I

1184
00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:30,320
Speaker 1: I had the I was I was running the FHS

1185
00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:33,320
Speaker 1: bino harness, and the freaking thing broke and my yeah

1186
00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:37,560
Speaker 1: a long time for this prototype loophole binness fell right

1187
00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:39,760
Speaker 1: out of my right out of my biny harness and

1188
00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:42,440
Speaker 1: into the dirt and then gone forever. Probably some local

1189
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:45,120
Speaker 1: picks them up seusing them now. But they were good.

1190
00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:48,560
Speaker 1: I like those things. Yeah, that happens. Tim, you got

1191
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:51,520
Speaker 1: a particular hack that you'd like to prescribe, I don't

1192
00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 1: along those lines. I keep I try to keep everything

1193
00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:56,120
Speaker 1: in the same pocket all the time, you know, Or

1194
00:59:56,200 --> 00:59:58,200
Speaker 1: the same if I change packs, it's always in the

1195
00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:02,400
Speaker 1: same general. Yeah, case into the filming conversation, because you

1196
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:04,560
Speaker 1: guys do it so much, you do it on your own. Yeah,

1197
01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:08,400
Speaker 1: I get asked that a lot, and I think because

1198
01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:10,680
Speaker 1: we do it so often that I don't really think

1199
01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:13,680
Speaker 1: about what I do that's different than what anybody else

1200
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:16,200
Speaker 1: might do. It's more just repetitive nature and doing the

1201
01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:19,040
Speaker 1: exact same thing for so long. I'm just kind of

1202
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:22,800
Speaker 1: having a system of of where everything goes. You know.

1203
01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:25,480
Speaker 1: The cameras always set up, regardless of if it's in

1204
01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:27,720
Speaker 1: my pack or on the tripod. It's it's all we

1205
01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:30,320
Speaker 1: set up where it needs to be. So I don't know,

1206
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:34,720
Speaker 1: it's it's hard to say. It's it's more just repeat, repeat, repeat,

1207
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:38,400
Speaker 1: um getting comfortable with it. If something changes and that's

1208
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:41,640
Speaker 1: what that's where in your mind goes and you start

1209
01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:43,560
Speaker 1: screwing up. So have you developed over the years with

1210
01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:45,760
Speaker 1: types of cameras are using or what the types of

1211
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:48,160
Speaker 1: tripods are using to film yourself? Yeah, I think the

1212
01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:51,040
Speaker 1: biggest transition was when we kind of moved from using

1213
01:00:51,080 --> 01:00:54,280
Speaker 1: just a handicam to a DSLR or I did I

1214
01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:56,120
Speaker 1: did earlier than Rammy I think you're still using that

1215
01:00:56,160 --> 01:01:00,000
Speaker 1: handicam a little bit, aren't you know? I went DSLR before,

1216
01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:03,880
Speaker 1: or you went DSLR, but then I went to hand

1217
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:07,560
Speaker 1: I reversed because I didn't have Yeah, so I went

1218
01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:12,720
Speaker 1: handicam when I got that new Yeah, long story, but

1219
01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:16,400
Speaker 1: yeah handicam. So you run a DSLR now, yeah, Well

1220
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:19,040
Speaker 1: I run every I carry four cameras and I've got

1221
01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:22,360
Speaker 1: six hands. To frustrate the editor because he'll use four

1222
01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:26,400
Speaker 1: different cameras and then just give me a hard drive

1223
01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:28,800
Speaker 1: and say you should you should be able to figure

1224
01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:32,520
Speaker 1: out the order of everything. It's cool. My system is

1225
01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:34,920
Speaker 1: when I'm stalking on something, I set the tripod up

1226
01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:38,960
Speaker 1: ahead of time. That's that's the hard part. Set and

1227
01:01:39,040 --> 01:01:43,160
Speaker 1: have the camera running. I like it, And don't let

1228
01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:46,120
Speaker 1: your release clink on the tripod. Yeah, I always hold

1229
01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:48,600
Speaker 1: my release in my hand with the tripod and these

1230
01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:51,360
Speaker 1: two fingers release. It's hard. I'll bet there's a lot

1231
01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:53,400
Speaker 1: of little things that we do that if we thought

1232
01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:56,120
Speaker 1: about it, if other people might not think about it.

1233
01:01:56,160 --> 01:01:58,200
Speaker 1: But because we've done it so much, it's what I

1234
01:01:58,240 --> 01:02:02,919
Speaker 1: should start doing. Is like I filmed the stock while

1235
01:02:02,920 --> 01:02:05,680
Speaker 1: I'm stalking, so I set the camera up, I crawled forward.

1236
01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:07,880
Speaker 1: I crawled back. Most of the time when I get

1237
01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:10,400
Speaker 1: in on a deer, I've stalked it three times. What

1238
01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:12,480
Speaker 1: I should do is just b s it and stalk

1239
01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:15,080
Speaker 1: it after the but you never do it. You'll never

1240
01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:16,960
Speaker 1: go back and do it, so you have to do

1241
01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:19,680
Speaker 1: it when you do it. Otherwise, what what you do

1242
01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:22,480
Speaker 1: different is like because I edit your footage and he's

1243
01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:24,720
Speaker 1: not lying, like that's exactly how it is. He'll do

1244
01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:28,680
Speaker 1: a stock two or three different times, and um, I

1245
01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:30,240
Speaker 1: can't do that. I just have to turn on a

1246
01:02:30,320 --> 01:02:33,320
Speaker 1: camera somewhere so that there's a camera running somewhere while

1247
01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:35,480
Speaker 1: I'm moving and if it's just filming the dirt or

1248
01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:38,120
Speaker 1: my feet or my head or whatever, like I'm always

1249
01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:40,400
Speaker 1: filming as I'm moving in. But I don't. I don't

1250
01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:44,760
Speaker 1: have the cohonas to to sneak in and sneak back out.

1251
01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:47,440
Speaker 1: And then I was like, man, nobody knows that it's

1252
01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:50,120
Speaker 1: thirty yards, but I just do it just because that's

1253
01:02:50,200 --> 01:02:52,960
Speaker 1: how I am. I'm like, but we've been talking about

1254
01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:54,960
Speaker 1: that a lot on this This is your program about

1255
01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:57,600
Speaker 1: how like honey is just the one thing if you're

1256
01:02:57,600 --> 01:03:01,600
Speaker 1: talking about sports. Somebody's watching you bullshit that if it's

1257
01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:03,720
Speaker 1: it's if the pluck goes in the gold pluck goes

1258
01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:06,920
Speaker 1: in the goal and hunting. You certainly like you're creating

1259
01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:11,120
Speaker 1: the narrative. I want to release sometime, which I probably should,

1260
01:03:11,560 --> 01:03:15,360
Speaker 1: um like just the raw footage in its in its

1261
01:03:15,360 --> 01:03:18,280
Speaker 1: original time code, so someone could look at and say,

1262
01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:21,880
Speaker 1: who they didn't they didn't futch that you know that

1263
01:03:22,040 --> 01:03:25,920
Speaker 1: was recorded before the kill happened, you know. And and

1264
01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:28,720
Speaker 1: there's times too when I'm editing that I put it

1265
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Speaker 1: together and then I feel like it needs something, and

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01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:33,760
Speaker 1: so I'll look to a piece that might be three

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01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:36,160
Speaker 1: days after or three days before and pull that piece

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01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:38,040
Speaker 1: in to kind of make it flow a little bit

1269
01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:41,520
Speaker 1: better just from a cinematic standpoint, But well, how do

1270
01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:44,080
Speaker 1: you tell a two weeks story in twenty two minutes?

1271
01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:47,320
Speaker 1: Makes sense? You have to pull from other things, but

1272
01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:50,560
Speaker 1: you know, you have to get all that stuff while

1273
01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:54,160
Speaker 1: you're yeah, because one stock, you know, you might be

1274
01:03:54,200 --> 01:03:56,800
Speaker 1: able to only show one of the twenty three stocks,

1275
01:03:57,680 --> 01:04:00,920
Speaker 1: but you need you need pieces that show that one stock,

1276
01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:03,840
Speaker 1: and it might be three spots stocks combined when you're editing,

1277
01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:07,760
Speaker 1: but they were all one to stop something usually but

1278
01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:12,680
Speaker 1: sometimes usually not Usually it's all depends how like aggressive

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01:04:12,760 --> 01:04:16,640
Speaker 1: I mean filming. I think our philosophy all along has been, um,

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01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:18,680
Speaker 1: we're not out there to create a film, or we're

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01:04:18,680 --> 01:04:20,560
Speaker 1: not out there to create a hunt. We're out there

1282
01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:23,640
Speaker 1: to document and experience your document a hunt. And so

1283
01:04:23,680 --> 01:04:27,120
Speaker 1: I think all along we've always put the episodes together

1284
01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:30,840
Speaker 1: in the order that it happened and as it happened, regardless.

1285
01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:33,360
Speaker 1: You know, So the first stock that Remy blew, it

1286
01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:35,480
Speaker 1: might have been the best footage, you know, where he

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01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:37,439
Speaker 1: sets up the tripod and the deer's on the other

1288
01:04:37,560 --> 01:04:39,720
Speaker 1: ridge and he sneaks up and pops up in frame.

1289
01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:42,200
Speaker 1: You know, that might be the best footage. And then

1290
01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:43,760
Speaker 1: the kill shot might have been nothing. You know, it

1291
01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:46,160
Speaker 1: might not have been any filler foot But that's just

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01:04:46,200 --> 01:04:48,320
Speaker 1: the way it is. We use the cool stuff when

1293
01:04:48,320 --> 01:04:53,760
Speaker 1: it happened, and the reality of the kill as it happens. Well,

1294
01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:55,040
Speaker 1: that might be a good way to close this one

1295
01:04:55,040 --> 01:04:57,400
Speaker 1: out so we can get back to winning. She hunts

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01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:01,360
Speaker 1: best solo Hunter story, like best you know, maybe not

1297
01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:03,120
Speaker 1: best episode, but the best store you have from your

1298
01:05:03,160 --> 01:05:06,360
Speaker 1: time filming yourself out outside. I'm sure, that's a laundry

1299
01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:09,640
Speaker 1: list of of things that you've done. But is there

1300
01:05:09,680 --> 01:05:12,920
Speaker 1: is there one tim that stands out that it just

1301
01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:21,520
Speaker 1: was just want one that kid mishap something crazy. Um

1302
01:05:22,320 --> 01:05:25,080
Speaker 1: So this year, I mean, I don't know. This year,

1303
01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:26,880
Speaker 1: I went went to Kodyak with a buddy of mine

1304
01:05:26,920 --> 01:05:29,360
Speaker 1: and we we camped together and we'd split off and

1305
01:05:29,560 --> 01:05:32,560
Speaker 1: hunt throughout the day. And as we left camp that morning,

1306
01:05:32,920 --> 01:05:34,960
Speaker 1: we wanted to go after some caribou. And once we

1307
01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:37,320
Speaker 1: got up to the this ridge and glass to where

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01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:41,720
Speaker 1: these caribou were, reindeer actually on on Kodiak. He's like, Uh,

1309
01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:43,560
Speaker 1: no way in hell I'm going that far, you know,

1310
01:05:44,080 --> 01:05:46,000
Speaker 1: to do. And I and I was in at that point.

1311
01:05:46,080 --> 01:05:48,000
Speaker 1: I was like, this first day, I want to go

1312
01:05:48,080 --> 01:05:49,600
Speaker 1: get one of those reindeer. I don't care. I can

1313
01:05:49,640 --> 01:05:51,400
Speaker 1: pack it out all day tomorrow. That's what with me.

1314
01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:54,040
Speaker 1: So we split up and I went out and went

1315
01:05:54,120 --> 01:05:56,360
Speaker 1: and did that, and the herd kept moving further and

1316
01:05:56,440 --> 01:05:58,520
Speaker 1: further away, and I end up anyway, I work in

1317
01:05:58,600 --> 01:06:01,000
Speaker 1: and I kill this reindeer and I back like I'm

1318
01:06:01,080 --> 01:06:04,480
Speaker 1: five miles from camp, you know, And I when when

1319
01:06:04,520 --> 01:06:06,440
Speaker 1: you're on that part of the island, it's really mus

1320
01:06:06,520 --> 01:06:09,040
Speaker 1: geggie and marshy and just really crappy to walk through.

1321
01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:12,880
Speaker 1: I acrossed a ditch that's, you know, chest deep, and

1322
01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:14,840
Speaker 1: I had to get the caribee back. I didn't want

1323
01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:17,440
Speaker 1: to have to do that twice, so I deboned everything,

1324
01:06:17,640 --> 01:06:19,600
Speaker 1: put it all on the pack, and just took it

1325
01:06:19,640 --> 01:06:22,120
Speaker 1: out in one trip. And the first it was like

1326
01:06:22,200 --> 01:06:25,040
Speaker 1: three yards to get to this creek and I got

1327
01:06:25,120 --> 01:06:28,360
Speaker 1: to there just fine, and then I actually got buried

1328
01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:32,120
Speaker 1: in the grass because I couldn't find my word the

1329
01:06:32,200 --> 01:06:34,760
Speaker 1: crossing because it's it's like if you can picture, it's

1330
01:06:34,760 --> 01:06:37,400
Speaker 1: like a canal bank where there's there's no there's no

1331
01:06:37,560 --> 01:06:39,919
Speaker 1: easy slope into it. It's just a drop off, deep

1332
01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:42,720
Speaker 1: water drop off back up. So I found this one

1333
01:06:42,920 --> 01:06:44,920
Speaker 1: one spot and I on the way back I couldn't

1334
01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:46,640
Speaker 1: find it. So I had to take off my pack

1335
01:06:46,880 --> 01:06:49,400
Speaker 1: unload everything until I found that, and then I had

1336
01:06:49,440 --> 01:06:51,320
Speaker 1: to ferry that across. Well, it took me like three

1337
01:06:51,400 --> 01:06:54,360
Speaker 1: hours just to get everything across the creek, and by

1338
01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:56,800
Speaker 1: then it's getting dark. Um, but there was no way

1339
01:06:56,840 --> 01:06:59,320
Speaker 1: I was gonna go back there. So that I think

1340
01:06:59,480 --> 01:07:03,240
Speaker 1: was just a really strenuous pack out that I was

1341
01:07:03,320 --> 01:07:05,360
Speaker 1: just laughing at myself the entire time, like what what

1342
01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:07,240
Speaker 1: are you doing? Just call Austin and have him come

1343
01:07:07,280 --> 01:07:08,800
Speaker 1: to help you, you know. But it was kind of

1344
01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:13,120
Speaker 1: just this this and like screw that, I gotta do this,

1345
01:07:13,520 --> 01:07:16,520
Speaker 1: and um we both actually walked into camp about midnight.

1346
01:07:16,840 --> 01:07:18,520
Speaker 1: He had a load of a blacktail and I had

1347
01:07:18,560 --> 01:07:20,360
Speaker 1: a load of caribou, and it was just that was

1348
01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:24,120
Speaker 1: like super super memorable. You know, that's that's most recent.

1349
01:07:24,200 --> 01:07:26,040
Speaker 1: There's a lot of them over the years. But I

1350
01:07:26,120 --> 01:07:28,520
Speaker 1: have holes in my brain. Cheese cheesy brain. I can't

1351
01:07:28,520 --> 01:07:31,960
Speaker 1: remember any cheese. I can't remember. No. I mean I

1352
01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:34,600
Speaker 1: think it. How has it changed you to do, you know,

1353
01:07:34,720 --> 01:07:36,680
Speaker 1: spend that much time by yourself out there film and

1354
01:07:36,720 --> 01:07:39,360
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I I would would admit to

1355
01:07:39,640 --> 01:07:43,360
Speaker 1: openly admit to being like, uh, being around people is

1356
01:07:43,400 --> 01:07:46,200
Speaker 1: as much what the hunting thing is for me as anything,

1357
01:07:46,520 --> 01:07:48,800
Speaker 1: So openly admit to me like I like hunting by myself.

1358
01:07:48,880 --> 01:07:51,320
Speaker 1: But I also you know, there's a lot of times

1359
01:07:51,320 --> 01:07:53,600
Speaker 1: where I'd love the big camps and big vibes, So like,

1360
01:07:53,680 --> 01:07:55,600
Speaker 1: how is that? How is it doing it this way

1361
01:07:56,000 --> 01:07:59,160
Speaker 1: kind of change your perspective? I think my preferences is

1362
01:07:59,240 --> 01:08:01,240
Speaker 1: to be with other people. You know. I like hunting

1363
01:08:01,280 --> 01:08:03,560
Speaker 1: alone for sure, but I love spending camp with people.

1364
01:08:04,320 --> 01:08:06,280
Speaker 1: But it's not you know, it's not the way that

1365
01:08:06,440 --> 01:08:08,640
Speaker 1: the things happen. It's not the way this the show went.

1366
01:08:08,840 --> 01:08:12,640
Speaker 1: And and um, the thing that I really enjoy about

1367
01:08:12,680 --> 01:08:14,760
Speaker 1: the solo part of it is it's really taught me

1368
01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:17,559
Speaker 1: some mental fortitude, you know. And I think it's it's

1369
01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:21,200
Speaker 1: made me um think about things differently, and it's it's

1370
01:08:21,280 --> 01:08:22,960
Speaker 1: kind of made me more stubborn in a lot of

1371
01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:25,920
Speaker 1: ways because now I look at every aspect of my

1372
01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:27,400
Speaker 1: life and I feel like I can do it on

1373
01:08:27,479 --> 01:08:29,280
Speaker 1: my own, you know. And and it's almost to a

1374
01:08:29,360 --> 01:08:31,360
Speaker 1: fault where you don't ask for help or you don't

1375
01:08:31,760 --> 01:08:34,479
Speaker 1: you don't accept help when it's offered. It's like, screw that,

1376
01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:36,960
Speaker 1: can I can do that, no problem. And part of

1377
01:08:37,040 --> 01:08:39,880
Speaker 1: that is really solid and good. In other parts of

1378
01:08:39,920 --> 01:08:42,080
Speaker 1: it is like maybe you need some help every once

1379
01:08:42,080 --> 01:08:44,040
Speaker 1: in a while. But I think for me, I like

1380
01:08:44,320 --> 01:08:47,560
Speaker 1: that part because when I do accomplish something like that,

1381
01:08:48,240 --> 01:08:51,240
Speaker 1: there is no other euphoric feeling in the world. When

1382
01:08:51,320 --> 01:08:53,360
Speaker 1: you walk into camp at midnight and you just hauled

1383
01:08:53,400 --> 01:08:55,519
Speaker 1: out a caribou, and you did it on your own.

1384
01:08:55,600 --> 01:08:58,240
Speaker 1: And whether it's an elk or you know, whatever it is,

1385
01:08:58,920 --> 01:09:02,560
Speaker 1: when you accomplish some thing on your own, that's on you.

1386
01:09:02,760 --> 01:09:05,120
Speaker 1: That's there's nobody else that can take take credit for that,

1387
01:09:05,280 --> 01:09:09,120
Speaker 1: you know, And so that's that is extremely fulfilling, extremely well.

1388
01:09:09,120 --> 01:09:10,280
Speaker 1: And then you get to share it with a bunch

1389
01:09:10,320 --> 01:09:12,240
Speaker 1: of people. Yeah, if you if you if you do

1390
01:09:12,320 --> 01:09:14,519
Speaker 1: it right, if you're filming it, if you do it right,

1391
01:09:14,800 --> 01:09:15,880
Speaker 1: is that a part of it for you too? That

1392
01:09:15,920 --> 01:09:18,800
Speaker 1: they always interests me, like the motivations once you film

1393
01:09:18,840 --> 01:09:20,200
Speaker 1: for a long time, kind of what you've been a

1394
01:09:20,240 --> 01:09:23,160
Speaker 1: content creator for a long time, Like how that how

1395
01:09:23,240 --> 01:09:25,800
Speaker 1: that like shifts your hunting motivations, whether it does or not,

1396
01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:28,280
Speaker 1: not saying that it does, but without a doubt. If

1397
01:09:28,360 --> 01:09:32,120
Speaker 1: if I'm not filming an event, um, I don't get

1398
01:09:32,160 --> 01:09:34,800
Speaker 1: as much out of it, just just and I've done it,

1399
01:09:34,840 --> 01:09:37,080
Speaker 1: you know, Like the biggest bowl I've killed bull elk

1400
01:09:37,080 --> 01:09:39,040
Speaker 1: I've killed. I didn't film it because I wanted to

1401
01:09:39,080 --> 01:09:41,320
Speaker 1: just go kill a big bull elk. And even though

1402
01:09:41,360 --> 01:09:45,160
Speaker 1: I got an awesome bowl, it felt unsatisfying because I

1403
01:09:45,280 --> 01:09:47,160
Speaker 1: really it would have really been an easy situation to

1404
01:09:47,240 --> 01:09:50,360
Speaker 1: film it, you know. Um So for me, undoubtedly I

1405
01:09:50,960 --> 01:09:53,280
Speaker 1: love the filming aspect of it. I love bringing it

1406
01:09:53,360 --> 01:09:55,719
Speaker 1: home and creating something that I feel is a value

1407
01:09:56,040 --> 01:09:59,120
Speaker 1: with that. I love sharing it. I love getting the feedback.

1408
01:09:59,520 --> 01:10:01,920
Speaker 1: You know. I like praise of of when something goes good,

1409
01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:04,720
Speaker 1: and and honestly I like negativity when it comes of, hey,

1410
01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:07,479
Speaker 1: maybe you could have done this different. Because you know,

1411
01:10:07,560 --> 01:10:09,559
Speaker 1: Remy and I had this conversation at lunch the other day.

1412
01:10:09,640 --> 01:10:13,800
Speaker 1: I continually want, like, I genuinely want to be better.

1413
01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:17,560
Speaker 1: I don't. I feel almost insecure at times because I

1414
01:10:17,680 --> 01:10:20,599
Speaker 1: want to be better at what I do, and when

1415
01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:24,040
Speaker 1: i'm if I'm not filming it, I have no form

1416
01:10:24,120 --> 01:10:27,280
Speaker 1: of reference to look back and say I can be better.

1417
01:10:27,360 --> 01:10:29,240
Speaker 1: You know, I can hunt better, I can film better,

1418
01:10:29,280 --> 01:10:32,360
Speaker 1: I can produce better. Now, I think it's it's it's

1419
01:10:32,479 --> 01:10:33,920
Speaker 1: for you too, Remy. I mean, I think it just

1420
01:10:34,680 --> 01:10:37,880
Speaker 1: once you've put content out there consistently and that's how

1421
01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:40,040
Speaker 1: you hunt, that's what you do. There's I feel like,

1422
01:10:40,080 --> 01:10:42,560
Speaker 1: there's just no there's no other way than to have

1423
01:10:42,640 --> 01:10:45,040
Speaker 1: it change you a little bit, to change your motivations,

1424
01:10:45,200 --> 01:10:48,400
Speaker 1: intrinsic extrinsic, whatever, you know, to to change the way

1425
01:10:48,439 --> 01:10:50,960
Speaker 1: that you see these types of things. You have thoughts

1426
01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:55,160
Speaker 1: on that, right, Yeah, No, I mean it definitely changes

1427
01:10:55,200 --> 01:10:58,120
Speaker 1: the way you look at things, especially because like bow

1428
01:10:58,240 --> 01:11:01,200
Speaker 1: hunting or whatever, it's hard to enough endeavor as it is.

1429
01:11:01,680 --> 01:11:04,519
Speaker 1: Then you add the filming aspect and the spot and

1430
01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:08,160
Speaker 1: stock and and it makes it so much more difficult.

1431
01:11:08,880 --> 01:11:12,240
Speaker 1: But now, like on some hunts, I've just been like,

1432
01:11:12,400 --> 01:11:15,400
Speaker 1: I'm not going to film and I realized, wow, I

1433
01:11:15,479 --> 01:11:18,760
Speaker 1: am a much better hunter than I was because you

1434
01:11:18,960 --> 01:11:21,120
Speaker 1: have to pay attention to so much when you're filming.

1435
01:11:21,200 --> 01:11:23,799
Speaker 1: It's almost like it's too easy. When I'm not filming,

1436
01:11:23,880 --> 01:11:26,320
Speaker 1: it's a marathon with a weight vest on and then

1437
01:11:28,400 --> 01:11:30,920
Speaker 1: this handicap and you're like, I don't even know if

1438
01:11:30,960 --> 01:11:34,639
Speaker 1: I'm into this. As much as the filming adds such

1439
01:11:34,720 --> 01:11:40,960
Speaker 1: a challenge that it becomes more of like, okay, it's

1440
01:11:41,040 --> 01:11:44,639
Speaker 1: it's almost like going from bow hunting to traditional hunting

1441
01:11:44,720 --> 01:11:47,519
Speaker 1: or something like. It's it's that added challenge that you're like, Okay,

1442
01:11:47,560 --> 01:11:50,200
Speaker 1: I kind of crave this added challenge and it kind

1443
01:11:50,200 --> 01:11:53,320
Speaker 1: of lets you know, man, what like how much you've

1444
01:11:53,439 --> 01:11:56,639
Speaker 1: learned along the way, and by doing a task that's

1445
01:11:56,720 --> 01:11:59,680
Speaker 1: hard even and making it harder on yourself. And the

1446
01:11:59,720 --> 01:12:02,280
Speaker 1: other thing is just the self control thing of when

1447
01:12:02,320 --> 01:12:04,639
Speaker 1: I go on a hunt and I'm have the intent

1448
01:12:04,800 --> 01:12:08,760
Speaker 1: of filming it. If I don't have that intent of

1449
01:12:08,800 --> 01:12:11,040
Speaker 1: filming it and commit to it, I won't do it.

1450
01:12:11,439 --> 01:12:15,320
Speaker 1: So I have to say, no, matter what happens, I'm filming.

1451
01:12:15,520 --> 01:12:19,800
Speaker 1: And there's been hunts where the best, one of the best,

1452
01:12:19,880 --> 01:12:23,240
Speaker 1: dear in my life, I had to let go within

1453
01:12:23,439 --> 01:12:25,920
Speaker 1: bow range because I couldn't get the camera set up,

1454
01:12:26,840 --> 01:12:30,040
Speaker 1: and that is like, I still kick myself over that,

1455
01:12:30,280 --> 01:12:34,120
Speaker 1: but I also stoked that I really committed to it.

1456
01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:37,519
Speaker 1: I in some in some levels now I may never

1457
01:12:37,640 --> 01:12:40,040
Speaker 1: draw that tag again, and that really makes me sad.

1458
01:12:40,240 --> 01:12:43,600
Speaker 1: But um and somebody else shot that deer and that

1459
01:12:43,760 --> 01:12:47,680
Speaker 1: made me sad. But it just happens, you know. Um,

1460
01:12:48,400 --> 01:12:54,680
Speaker 1: I would say my uh, most memorable close out the

1461
01:12:54,760 --> 01:13:00,080
Speaker 1: most memorable solo story. All right. So I've done a

1462
01:13:00,160 --> 01:13:02,640
Speaker 1: lot of stuff, you know, solo in New Zealand, and

1463
01:13:02,680 --> 01:13:06,960
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, and I found this new spot and

1464
01:13:07,000 --> 01:13:10,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go tar hunt. I load up my pack,

1465
01:13:10,160 --> 01:13:13,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be gone for a while. I've got you know,

1466
01:13:13,240 --> 01:13:15,640
Speaker 1: when you're packing in for solo and filming. I've got

1467
01:13:15,760 --> 01:13:21,240
Speaker 1: two cameras, all their batteries, um recording, you know, audio stuff,

1468
01:13:21,280 --> 01:13:24,080
Speaker 1: batteries for that, batteries for this, battery, the whole the

1469
01:13:24,120 --> 01:13:29,120
Speaker 1: whole kit, plus my camping gear plus everything. My pack

1470
01:13:29,360 --> 01:13:32,840
Speaker 1: is extremely heavy. There's nothing it's and then you gotta think, Okay,

1471
01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:35,439
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be packing something out. It's gonna be even heavier,

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Speaker 1: and I'm gonna probably do it in one trip because

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Speaker 1: I just it's just a pain in me. Yes. So

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Speaker 1: I find the spot. It's about a six mile arduous hike,

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Speaker 1: and I'm like, okay, I'm just gonna film because the

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Speaker 1: stuff is in my pack. I was like, I'm just

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Speaker 1: gonna film once I get, you know, six miles back,

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Speaker 1: because just put your head down and grind sometimes you know,

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Speaker 1: there will be plenty opportunity to film. So I get

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Speaker 1: back there and it was a it was a gnarly hike.

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Speaker 1: I'm back up on the mountaintop. I set up my

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Speaker 1: camp and I did some filming and then I'm sitting

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Speaker 1: there and I spot this bowl tar and I'm like, perfect, right,

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Speaker 1: So I stashed some stuff in my tent and uh,

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Speaker 1: and I go and I turned the camera around to

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Speaker 1: film the tar, and I look and at splashing no

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01:14:27,040 --> 01:14:29,720
Speaker 1: memory and I'm like, oh, my card must be full.

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01:14:29,960 --> 01:14:32,120
Speaker 1: I didn't have a memory card in the camera. So

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Speaker 1: I digged through my entire pack. No memory cards anywhere,

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Speaker 1: none of no. I just was hitting record because I

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01:14:39,360 --> 01:14:41,559
Speaker 1: couldn't see the screen when I was sitting up camp

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01:14:42,160 --> 01:14:44,640
Speaker 1: and I had hiked all the way in there no

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Speaker 1: memory cards with all my equipment, and I'm like, screw it.

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01:14:49,320 --> 01:14:51,439
Speaker 1: I just left everything the tent, went up, shot the tar,

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01:14:51,760 --> 01:14:53,760
Speaker 1: packed it out, loaded up my pack, and that was

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Speaker 1: my punishment of just trudging back. I got some cellphone

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01:14:58,560 --> 01:15:00,439
Speaker 1: footage of it. I was like, yeah, I all the

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01:15:00,479 --> 01:15:03,680
Speaker 1: way up here just like and I literally was like,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna film this really well, and I'm just gonna commit.

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Speaker 1: I think I had. I mean, I had all my

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01:15:09,439 --> 01:15:11,800
Speaker 1: big lenses. It was one of the heaviest packags I've

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01:15:11,840 --> 01:15:13,760
Speaker 1: ever had, and one of the heavy My pack was

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01:15:13,760 --> 01:15:16,120
Speaker 1: probably eighty pounds going in, Like I literally have like

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01:15:16,200 --> 01:15:19,680
Speaker 1: a long lens like this that lens, I don't even

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01:15:19,720 --> 01:15:25,799
Speaker 1: know what that thing. And I had think three lenses

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01:15:25,880 --> 01:15:28,360
Speaker 1: to cameras. I'm like I'm gonna go in and just

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01:15:28,439 --> 01:15:31,240
Speaker 1: do something I haven't done before. It's just like, not

1508
01:15:31,560 --> 01:15:34,240
Speaker 1: think go light. I'm gonna go on a backcountry hunt

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01:15:34,400 --> 01:15:38,240
Speaker 1: and and honestly just kill it this time. Just get footage.

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01:15:38,320 --> 01:15:41,479
Speaker 1: Nobody's got of these things like this sigma lens. And

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01:15:41,680 --> 01:15:44,599
Speaker 1: and then I had my spotting scope. I had all

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01:15:44,720 --> 01:15:49,160
Speaker 1: my ship. It was the heaviest. It was like packing

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01:15:49,200 --> 01:15:52,080
Speaker 1: an animal out in and then I shot an animal

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01:15:52,160 --> 01:15:54,880
Speaker 1: and backed out. It was that. That was a funny

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01:15:55,479 --> 01:15:57,439
Speaker 1: adventure that no one will share it. That reminds me

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01:15:57,520 --> 01:16:00,639
Speaker 1: of the time that we recorded a podcast with memory card.

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01:16:00,640 --> 01:16:04,760
Speaker 1: Of memory card that brings it right back home, back

1518
01:16:04,920 --> 01:16:07,120
Speaker 1: one of the first podcast ever about it was probably

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01:16:07,120 --> 01:16:09,720
Speaker 1: like a year ago. It was. It was a year

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Speaker 1: ago next week, the year going next week, I mean,

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01:16:12,040 --> 01:16:15,400
Speaker 1: and I recorded probably the best outdoor podcast ever to

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01:16:15,439 --> 01:16:20,200
Speaker 1: be recorded. No one will ever lost files. I listened

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01:16:20,200 --> 01:16:25,400
Speaker 1: to the B file, I missed the A files. That's it. Well, boys,

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Speaker 1: let's go win some cheap ons. You're down for that.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for coming on, Thanks appreciate it. So that's it.

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Speaker 1: That's all. Episode number forty eight in the books. Remy

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Speaker 1: and Tim, thank you for joining me here. At the

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Speaker 1: Yettie booth, all these wonderful products yetie products. They're happy,

1529
01:16:49,960 --> 01:16:51,920
Speaker 1: you know, since I'm a former employee. I mean I

1530
01:16:51,960 --> 01:16:54,559
Speaker 1: think they're happy to have me around. Or maybe I'm

1531
01:16:54,560 --> 01:16:58,400
Speaker 1: just a murder who really knows um, But you guys know,

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01:16:58,560 --> 01:17:02,320
Speaker 1: Yettie they're great. Uh and Tim's great, Remy's great. What

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01:17:02,400 --> 01:17:05,760
Speaker 1: a good conversation. Appreciate those boys sitting in. Appreciate them

1534
01:17:05,840 --> 01:17:11,200
Speaker 1: tolerating my my discovery on segments of what works and

1535
01:17:11,320 --> 01:17:13,960
Speaker 1: what doesn't here on the podcasts are always trying to

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01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:15,800
Speaker 1: make things better. I know. If you learn a little

1537
01:17:15,800 --> 01:17:18,840
Speaker 1: bit about Western tags, a little bit about the life

1538
01:17:18,880 --> 01:17:20,920
Speaker 1: and times of these two interesting men, and you can

1539
01:17:20,960 --> 01:17:24,320
Speaker 1: follow them on Instagram. You can check out Solo Hunter.

1540
01:17:24,400 --> 01:17:26,639
Speaker 1: You can check out all Remy's work and all Tim's

1541
01:17:26,720 --> 01:17:30,160
Speaker 1: work all over the place in our industry and world.

1542
01:17:30,800 --> 01:17:34,560
Speaker 1: What else? What else? As always well, right now, we

1543
01:17:34,680 --> 01:17:38,599
Speaker 1: just did the first ever uh well not the first ever,

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Speaker 1: brother first for this tour for the Mediator Podcast Live.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna be tinuing to go to towns near you.

1546
01:17:45,280 --> 01:17:46,800
Speaker 1: So if you go to the Meat Eater dot com

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01:17:46,920 --> 01:17:50,200
Speaker 1: you click on events, you're gonna find a schedule there

1548
01:17:50,240 --> 01:17:51,840
Speaker 1: and that schedule will tell you where we are and

1549
01:17:51,920 --> 01:17:55,920
Speaker 1: what we're doing and exactly when we are doing it.

1550
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Speaker 1: So go there check it out, and then when you're there,

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Speaker 1: it's scribe on the newsletter. And then also go to

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Speaker 1: the shop check out the hunt in collected merch that's

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Speaker 1: in their intermingling amongst the meat Eater merchant you wired

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Speaker 1: to Hunt merch and all the awesome gear that Meat

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Speaker 1: Eater Incorporated has cobbled together for you in a in

1556
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Speaker 1: a great way. So I would just want to close

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Speaker 1: this episode by saying, as always, thank you for listening. UM.

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01:18:25,280 --> 01:18:28,080
Speaker 1: Are traveling to the shows and are traveling to the

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Speaker 1: shot show. In our traveling to Cheap Show, we I

1560
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Speaker 1: have been able to run into a lot of you

1561
01:18:32,280 --> 01:18:35,920
Speaker 1: that listen to one of our podcasts or all of them,

1562
01:18:36,520 --> 01:18:40,720
Speaker 1: and it has been motivating and inspiring without trying to

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01:18:40,720 --> 01:18:43,720
Speaker 1: be too melodramatic, it's really is inspiring to talk to

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Speaker 1: people UM about what they love to do and they're

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01:18:47,720 --> 01:18:50,720
Speaker 1: how they're affected by what we do. Uh. It's really

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01:18:50,720 --> 01:18:54,439
Speaker 1: amazing and a situation I never thought I would find

1567
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Speaker 1: myself in, but now that I'm here in this program,

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Speaker 1: UM is something that I'm doing. I really, they just

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01:19:00,280 --> 01:19:02,920
Speaker 1: enjoy the interaction with all of you anywhere we can

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01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:05,679
Speaker 1: get it. So continue to to write it on Instagram,

1571
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Speaker 1: to email me, continue to provide that feedback because we

1572
01:19:09,520 --> 01:19:12,240
Speaker 1: want it. When we want all of it we can get. Also, Hey,

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Speaker 1: wherever you listen iTunes, wherever that is, go there and

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Speaker 1: leave us a nice review or a mean review, whatever

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Speaker 1: you want to do. People tend to do both. Leave

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Speaker 1: us a review. Go to iTunes, go to the Hunting

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Speaker 1: Collected page and leave us a review, a written review

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Speaker 1: about what you think we want to hear from you there. Uh,

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Speaker 1: and leave us us a star rating, as it were. Uh,

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Speaker 1: that's my only task other than all those other things

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Speaker 1: I said. So until next time, thanks for listening to

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Speaker 1: the Hunt Collective. All right,