Speaker 1: Hey, they're folks.
Speaker 2: It is Monday, April twenty seventh. Then it appears the
Speaker 2: search for two missing doctoral students in Florida is over
Speaker 2: now that a second body has been recovered. With that,
Speaker 2: welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ Robs. These
Speaker 2: students had been missing for I guess about a week,
Speaker 2: and then authorities say, actually they're endangered and they found
Speaker 2: one of their bodies. He's been identified. The second student ropes.
Speaker 2: They found a body they haven't identified, but they do
Speaker 2: believe it is the second student.
Speaker 3: Yes, human remains were found on Sunday and they do
Speaker 3: believe it is the body of twenty seven year old
Speaker 3: Nahita Bristie and those remains were found near where her
Speaker 3: friends Emil L. Mohan's body was found on top of
Speaker 3: a bridge that was spanning Tampa Bay. Her remains were
Speaker 3: found just below that same air dive teams were able
Speaker 3: to recover them. They haven't officially been identified, but suspects
Speaker 3: excuse me. Police have said that they now are charging
Speaker 3: the man who is the suspect of murdering these two
Speaker 3: with two counts a first degree murder.
Speaker 2: So, yeah, the search is over for the students, we believe,
Speaker 2: But police. It's important to note do say that the
Speaker 2: search is over for a suspect. They do not believe
Speaker 2: somebody's out there running around on the streets that they
Speaker 2: need to track down. No, they believe, in fact, there
Speaker 2: was the roommate of Zamil Lemon who actually is responsible
Speaker 2: for this. We'll get into some of those details, but
Speaker 2: Robes a reminder to the audience here of who these
Speaker 2: two are. Twenty seven year old students' friends, have known
Speaker 2: each other for quite a while, both from Bangladesh. Their
Speaker 2: families back there are very concerned about them. But Robes,
Speaker 2: there was I guess hope early on they said these
Speaker 2: two had talked maybe about marriage down the road there
Speaker 2: was and I know we were we were holding on
Speaker 2: the hope that they were what do you call them,
Speaker 2: love starar across lovers. Yeah, maybe they ran off, but
Speaker 2: it's not the case.
Speaker 3: Unfortunately that was not the case, and when they found
Speaker 3: the body body of Zamil Leimann, it was only a
Speaker 3: matter of time before they found a heat of Bristie.
Speaker 3: But there's still a lot of mystery involved in what happened.
Speaker 3: As you mentioned, Babe, police do have the suspect, twenty
Speaker 3: six year old Hisham Abu Garibaya that was Lemone's roommate.
Speaker 1: He has been charged with those murders.
Speaker 3: But they also over the weekend, prosecutors began to reveal
Speaker 3: some of the evidence they have mounting against this young
Speaker 3: man and it is fairly tremendous and they do believe
Speaker 3: they have their guide.
Speaker 2: And they again, we told you they had been missing
Speaker 2: since the sixteenth, or haven't that right?
Speaker 1: Correct?
Speaker 2: Team is when they went missing. But there were several
Speaker 2: days that went by robes that there was not necessarily
Speaker 2: concern for their well being. There was curious and the
Speaker 2: family was concerned because this isn't like them. They don't
Speaker 2: do this. We know something's wrong. Police didn't have that evidence.
Speaker 2: It went then to endangered rogues to the evidence and
Speaker 2: some things that are coming out now. When it went
Speaker 2: to endangered, we didn't really understand why. They have now
Speaker 2: explained why andes we heard there was evidence at the
Speaker 2: apartment that maybe wasn't apparent initially to them that they
Speaker 2: went back and found that made it clear to them
Speaker 2: that they were looking for two victims.
Speaker 3: Yes, because they were able to detect us, were able
Speaker 3: to use some sort of enhancement whatever they used blue lights.
Speaker 3: I'm not sure exactly what it was that reveals blood that's.
Speaker 1: Been cleaned up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they found significant blood patterns from the entry from
Speaker 3: the foyer there into the kitchen, into the hallway into
Speaker 3: the roommate's bedroom. And then that blood that they found
Speaker 3: in the bedroom was found in two distinct patterns on
Speaker 3: the floor which appeared to have human sized shapes.
Speaker 2: And this is something they knew. It was one thing
Speaker 2: we thought about it like, there's just so much blood
Speaker 2: that it had to be to no, no, to hear this.
Speaker 2: Now we see two blood, we know there are two
Speaker 2: bodies here, that is they and they describe robes. What
Speaker 2: is just a horrific way that he died And so
Speaker 2: the amount of blood and do I haven't right as well?
Speaker 2: And you're going to get into this, but I'm asking
Speaker 2: now because I can't remember. They said he was found
Speaker 2: in trash bags, yes, right, more than one correct, but
Speaker 2: I haven't they said the number of bags, but they
Speaker 2: didn't say dismembered.
Speaker 1: I had the same question. They didn't. They've never used
Speaker 1: the word dismembered.
Speaker 3: But when you talk about multiple bags, and they did
Speaker 3: say badly decomposing, the badly decomposing body of Lemon was
Speaker 3: found in multiple bags, so that would imply that there
Speaker 3: was some sort of.
Speaker 1: Yeah, dismemberment.
Speaker 3: We do know that they believe, and they have said
Speaker 3: the autopsy they've already completed that of Lemon was does
Speaker 3: reveal that he was stabbed to death essentially, so they
Speaker 3: were multiple stab wounds throughout his body, and so that
Speaker 3: is how they believe. Unfortunately, Lemon died and we are
Speaker 3: now just a waiting official word that in fact is
Speaker 3: Bristie's body and then an autopsy I'm sure has already
Speaker 3: ben is underway right now.
Speaker 2: To note about this one thing about the suspect, we
Speaker 2: should note no motive yet, we don't have that. Don't
Speaker 2: understand that yet. The next thing here robes about this
Speaker 2: and we saw him taken into custody.
Speaker 1: What was it on Saturday I believe.
Speaker 2: With him coming out of the house, well we haven't
Speaker 2: described that, but he was essentially barricaded himself a little
Speaker 2: bit of a standoff correct his family.
Speaker 3: House, barricaded himself if there was about twenty minutes swat
Speaker 3: teams were called in. He finally emerged with his hands raised,
Speaker 3: barely clothed in a blue.
Speaker 1: Bath towel, and that is how he was arrested.
Speaker 2: But robe is important to note here he has been
Speaker 2: charged with premeditated murder. Now we wonder, well, how did
Speaker 2: police come to that conclusion? How do they know? Because
Speaker 2: he left an electronic trail They say, damn near all
Speaker 2: over his phone.
Speaker 1: Yes, this is so eerie.
Speaker 3: There is chat GPT evidence which came out over the
Speaker 3: weekend three days.
Speaker 1: This is what's just so sad.
Speaker 3: I wish there was a way that you could look
Speaker 3: at people's searches and it could signal something to police
Speaker 3: to intervene, But we don't have that capability yet and
Speaker 3: that would be a massive invasion of privacy.
Speaker 1: And I understand.
Speaker 3: But three days before Leman and Bristoe went missing, he
Speaker 3: is in his on his phone searching or asking the
Speaker 3: questions to chat GPT what happens if a human is
Speaker 3: put in a black garbage bag and thrown in a dumpster.
Speaker 3: Chat GPT answers, that sounds dangerous, and then he wrote
Speaker 3: back how would they find out? So he's already planning
Speaker 3: what he's going to do with their bodies three days
Speaker 3: before they even go missing, and then one day before
Speaker 3: they disappeared, he asked Chad GPT, can a VIN number
Speaker 3: on a car be changed? Can you keep a gun
Speaker 3: at home without a license? And then two days after
Speaker 3: he reportedly now because they did track his car and
Speaker 3: his phone his GPS to that bridge where they found
Speaker 3: ultimately Lemown's body and underneath it what they believed to
Speaker 3: be Bristie's body, and that is how they knew where
Speaker 3: to look. Two days after he reportedly dumped their bodies,
Speaker 3: he put into Chad GBT, has there been someone who
Speaker 3: survived a sniper bullet to the head? Will my neighbors
Speaker 3: hear my gun? And will Apple know who is the
Speaker 3: new iPhone user after the previous user? So it looked
Speaker 3: like he was trying to see whether or not he
Speaker 3: might die by suicide by cops basically, or die by
Speaker 3: suicide with his own gun, or get away with it
Speaker 3: and switch phones up.
Speaker 2: This is ah, okay, he's innocent until proven guilty. But Jesus,
Speaker 2: I mean this is one of those robes where a
Speaker 2: good lord, they have all of them. No, this does
Speaker 2: not prove anything, and he is well always had to
Speaker 2: say that robes. He's innocent until proven guilty, but they
Speaker 2: are piling up. Now that's the digital stuff. There's plenty
Speaker 2: of other stuff. I mean, it's just it. The evidence
Speaker 2: against him now seems a little overwhelming.
Speaker 1: Overwhelming is the word I would have used as well.
Speaker 3: So they they told us a little bit about Prosecutors
Speaker 3: told the court a little bit about what aber Garbea
Speaker 3: was saying when they initially interviewed him. They said that
Speaker 3: he initially said that Lemon and Bristy had never been
Speaker 3: in his car, and then when they showed him, yeah,
Speaker 3: we actually know that their phones in your car were
Speaker 3: in the exact same place at the exact same time,
Speaker 3: he then changed his story to say, oh, yeah, I
Speaker 3: did give them a ride to Clearwater the last day
Speaker 3: they were seen. But then they were able to find
Speaker 3: receipts where he purchased trash bags, lysol wipes for breeze.
Speaker 3: They actually had the other roommates say that he saw
Speaker 3: aber Garbea take boxes out to a dumpster.
Speaker 1: When they searched the dumpster, there was a treasure trove
Speaker 1: of evidence.
Speaker 2: I don't know what to do with this guy. The
Speaker 2: thing I'm waiting to hear and again, open and shut,
Speaker 2: slam dunk k all this stuff. They think they got
Speaker 2: their guy and robes. It's I want to hear a motive.
Speaker 2: What in the world set this into motion. I haven't
Speaker 2: seen anything yet. You tell me if you have about
Speaker 2: his background, having issues, having any kind of criminal history,
Speaker 2: having any got issues with his family. I don't know.
Speaker 2: Stuff usually comes out about there were warning signs. I
Speaker 2: haven't seen that yet.
Speaker 3: His family has said there were, because his brother has
Speaker 3: had asked for him to be barred from his home,
Speaker 3: actually sought some legal protection for it. And aber Garbeo
Speaker 3: was charged or arrested twice at least for domestic violence
Speaker 3: because he had outburst with his family threats of violence.
Speaker 3: So absolutely there were warning signs.
Speaker 2: You know what I got to mixed up with? Are
Speaker 2: DC shooter?
Speaker 3: Ah?
Speaker 1: Yes, here were no warning signs with him.
Speaker 2: No, I held those things. His family had showed concerns
Speaker 2: as well. Oh so I thought I got the two
Speaker 2: guys mixed up.
Speaker 3: No, there were warning signs on both. But yes, big time,
Speaker 3: big time. And then the treasure trove, by the way
Speaker 3: of evidence they found in that dumpster, I'll just go
Speaker 3: through a list of some of what they found. They
Speaker 3: found Limon's student ID, they found his credit cards with
Speaker 3: his name on them. They found Bristy's pink cell phone cover.
Speaker 3: They found a gray T shirt in the dumpster that
Speaker 3: they've already tested for genetic material that has been linked
Speaker 3: to LeMans, and then a kitchen mat that was missing.
Speaker 3: They found it in the dumpster with genetic material matching
Speaker 3: with Bristi. They saw that he had cuts on his hands,
Speaker 3: lacerations on his legs.
Speaker 1: He this was a fight.
Speaker 3: And Lemon, it looks like and Bristy perhaps too, fought
Speaker 3: until the very end, so he was cut up as well.
Speaker 2: Is he today for mim? I'm sorry he today or tomorrow?
Speaker 3: In court tomorrow on Tuesday, he has a it's a
Speaker 3: cord hearing, it's a bond hearing, and we kind of
Speaker 3: went we kind of laughed at that, as if he's
Speaker 3: going to get out. No, he is being held on
Speaker 3: bail right now until the hearing tomorrow Tuesday at nine
Speaker 3: am Eastern time is when it's scheduled.
Speaker 1: But he almost.
Speaker 3: Certainly, I can't imagine the scenario in which this man
Speaker 3: would ever even be allowed to have any sort of
Speaker 3: dollar amount placed on a bond.
Speaker 2: This evidence is unbelieve.
Speaker 1: He's growth.
Speaker 2: Criminals make mistakes, they usually get caught not known for
Speaker 2: being the brightest people in the world. Bro, this has
Speaker 2: got to be the worst job of covering your tracks
Speaker 2: in a crime or it's the most unbelievable framing job
Speaker 2: we've ever seen.
Speaker 3: Correct, Correct, exactly, and look, the big glaring question that
Speaker 3: you mentioned is motive.
Speaker 1: We have no idea how or why this.
Speaker 3: Roommate would plan the brutal, horrific murders of these two
Speaker 3: young doctoral students and then plan in great detail how
Speaker 3: he was going to get rid of their bodies.
Speaker 1: It's just beyond disturbing.
Speaker 3: So when we come back, we're going to talk about
Speaker 3: what the families of Lemon and Bristie have to say.
Speaker 3: They they released a very lengthy and frankly fiery joint
Speaker 3: statement upon the news of the arrest of Lemon's roommate.
Speaker 3: Welcome back, everyone to this episode of Amy and TJ,
Speaker 3: where we are getting a lot of information about what
Speaker 3: happened to those two doctoral students who are missing for
Speaker 3: more than a week from the University of South Florida.
Speaker 3: We know that Zamilimon's body was found on Friday, and
Speaker 3: now it's believed Nahita Bristie's remains were also recovered yesterday.
Speaker 3: On Sunday in the Tampa Bay below where her friend
Speaker 3: Zamil's body was found just a few days earlier. And
Speaker 3: we are getting some unbelievable evidence coming out of court
Speaker 3: over the weekend from prosecutors about what they have been
Speaker 3: able to discover about Lemohan's roommate, twenty six year old
Speaker 3: Hesham aber Garbea. He is charged with first degree murder
Speaker 3: in the deaths of both Lemon and Bristie, and he
Speaker 3: has a very difficult case, or at least his defense
Speaker 3: attorneys will have a very difficult case when they take
Speaker 3: this to court.
Speaker 2: Difficult because it's almost from what we've seen already, the
Speaker 2: evidence is insurmountable. That's not going too far. If what
Speaker 2: they have is what they have, it's insurmountable.
Speaker 3: I absolutely I think anyone who just heard this podcast
Speaker 3: would agree with your statement and how you categorize it.
Speaker 3: But we are hearing from the families of the two
Speaker 3: slain students, and they put out a joint statement and
Speaker 3: I know you read it as well, but they are
Speaker 3: making a list of demands and it is they're far away.
Speaker 3: Can you imagine being thousands and thousands of miles away
Speaker 3: from your children and to know that this is the
Speaker 3: fate they met after sending them off to the United States.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're angry the dream American dream, and sometimes yes,
Speaker 2: we're a parent. You almost hold the entire country, the state,
Speaker 2: the community, and maybe even the campus responsible for your children.
Speaker 3: So yeah, they pissed, and that is exactly what this
Speaker 3: request is ask They first of all asked that the
Speaker 3: bodies be handled into accordance with Islamic rituals. So they're
Speaker 3: asking that that be done properly, and they're asking that
Speaker 3: the university make sure that happens. And then in terms
Speaker 3: of the university, they want the university to take action
Speaker 3: against the off campus housing facility that put this roommate.
Speaker 3: Now the suspect assigned, they say, without proper background checks
Speaker 3: or without information that should have been given to their
Speaker 3: son to know who he was actually residing with. I
Speaker 3: didn't realize that somehow they are blaming the university for
Speaker 3: placing these students together in an off campus housing facility.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, we all know sometimes you do not
Speaker 2: have a choice of who your roommate's going to be.
Speaker 2: But I don't know how far are they're going to
Speaker 2: get with that one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they said that even after complaints were made, why
Speaker 3: was no strong action taken to protect its residents with
Speaker 3: its security system?
Speaker 1: So that was interesting.
Speaker 3: They also are asking for the highest possible punishment for
Speaker 3: the roommate, and that makes and said all completely.
Speaker 1: They also asked that.
Speaker 3: They want all their personal belongings return to them from
Speaker 3: their children. That's understandable, but they also want all the
Speaker 3: this is this stood out to me. We request that
Speaker 3: any remaining bank balances, pending stipends, salaries, benefits, or other
Speaker 3: financial dues belonging to their children be transferred to their families,
Speaker 3: because they said since both families were financially dependent on them.
Speaker 3: We also request the university arrange financial support for their
Speaker 3: families and open an official channel through which people can contribute.
Speaker 1: I thought that stood out. They are asking for payment.
Speaker 2: What these kids were sending back to their family. I
Speaker 2: don't know what that situation is and how well their
Speaker 2: family is doing or how badly that family is doing.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, I'm sure some I don't know
Speaker 2: if the university will do it officially, but someone, if
Speaker 2: it's not already out, probably have some kind of fun
Speaker 2: for the family.
Speaker 3: We forget about just the role these students play in
Speaker 3: their families lives. I was thinking about that they're being
Speaker 3: sent off the United States. They're being supported by their family,
Speaker 3: but in return, they're the pride and joy of their
Speaker 3: family that's expected to then financially support their family back home.
Speaker 3: So this is so much the case with students and
Speaker 3: immigrants who come to this country. They are loved and
Speaker 3: they are supported, but they are desperately needed by their
Speaker 3: families to continue their lifestyles overseas. So I just you
Speaker 3: don't usually see that. I thought that was really interesting.
Speaker 3: And then they're asking for a memorial in their honor.
Speaker 3: They want the university to establish a memorial in their
Speaker 3: names to try and prevent tragedies like theirs in the future.
Speaker 1: And I think that's really honorable.
Speaker 3: And they they make these requests and they hope they
Speaker 3: say that most importantly, that those requests will be treated
Speaker 3: with compassion and responsibility.
Speaker 2: We shalsea. Ian's a couple of the tall orders with
Speaker 2: I don't if the university decided to do any of
Speaker 2: those things, I wouldn't be opposed. I wouldn't have any
Speaker 2: problem with any of that. So I don't have any
Speaker 2: problem with them asking.
Speaker 3: Ah. Yeah, but this is just an unbelievably tragic end,
Speaker 3: hoping obviously for that Star Cross lover's story to unfold,
Speaker 3: but unfortunately that is not the case, and we will
Speaker 3: keep our eye on the core proceedings that are taking
Speaker 3: place tomorrow at nine am Eastern time. We will see
Speaker 3: what happens to this twenty six year old roommate who
Speaker 3: did some unthinkable and planned, according to authorities, an unspeakable
Speaker 3: and unthinkable act of violence. Why, We hope to find out,
Speaker 3: Certainly the families are hoping for that answer as well.
Speaker 1: We always appreciate you listening to us. Everyone.
Speaker 3: With that, thank you, I'm Amy Robach alongside TJ. Holmes,
Speaker 3: and we will talk to you very soon.