WEBVTT - The Re-Whiting of America

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<v Speaker 1>That is what I'm used to. The breading from Angela Rye.

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<v Speaker 1>You have Angela Rye and Gilliman. Today we have the

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<v Speaker 1>one in homely Joy and reads from joining us as

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<v Speaker 1>welcome home, y'all.

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<v Speaker 4>We are real. Beyonce say today.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey no, we're talking about joy An Red.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, this is episode.

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<v Speaker 5>Too.

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<v Speaker 1>So that girl, you do look good. You look look

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<v Speaker 1>like you've been drinking your water and money your business.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what you're supposed to do.

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<v Speaker 6>Moisturize mine in my business and hdrated.

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<v Speaker 7>Mine out last week.

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<v Speaker 1>But really beautiful, Yes.

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<v Speaker 6>I keep mine until Martin Luther Christmas. Y'all did Martin

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<v Speaker 6>Luther christ When the Christmas come then I'll take.

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<v Speaker 3>It in you and b car.

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<v Speaker 1>So our main stories today, Our main topics for today

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<v Speaker 1>are unrest and protest in Minnesota. Unfortunately, we were taping

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<v Speaker 1>last week when the shooting of Rename Good happened, So

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<v Speaker 1>we want to delve into that a little bit. And

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<v Speaker 1>we're also going to talk about Trump's attacks on civil rights.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you all saw this, but Trump

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<v Speaker 1>thought that all of our parents and forefather's efforts weren't

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<v Speaker 1>vain during the civil rights movement because all it did

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<v Speaker 1>was punish white folk. But before we get to that,

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<v Speaker 1>we have an amazing new part of our show that

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<v Speaker 1>we call uh N s f W. Wait a minute, no,

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<v Speaker 1>not say for that's not what it is. That's that's

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<v Speaker 1>what it should be. But it's for your situation, for

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<v Speaker 1>your situational awareness, that's what it is. F Y s A.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what it is. So today we're going to get

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<v Speaker 1>into a couple of things. We're going to get into

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<v Speaker 1>the Federal Reserve under investigation. I don't know if you

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<v Speaker 1>all saw, but Jerome Pole, who has served under four

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<v Speaker 1>count on four United States presidents, received criminal sub penis

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<v Speaker 1>because he's not willing to go along. To get along

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<v Speaker 1>with this White House, we have Minnesota. Minnesota Attorney General

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<v Speaker 1>Keith Ellison is suing DHS. Andrew has been steadfast on

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<v Speaker 1>making sure that our state wide elected officials do something.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll question this and see whether or not that is

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<v Speaker 1>enough where we need more. The Clinton's my homeboys and girls,

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<v Speaker 1>all of ours. I guess I think I think all

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<v Speaker 1>four of us are still on good terms. I ain't sure.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll figure that out. But the Clinton skip testifying to

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<v Speaker 1>Congress about Epstein and they risk contempt. Comer's gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>a lot to say about that. My video today that

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<v Speaker 1>I love Drew Ski's viral video making fun of mega

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<v Speaker 1>church pastors with his Christian lubatans own because he is

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<v Speaker 1>Christian and he is walking on the blood of Christ.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it all. And then we're going to allow

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<v Speaker 1>the person who does this better than I, but Joyanne Reid.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll be able to toss to hers today, which is

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<v Speaker 1>Robin Kelly announce his articles of impeachment against DHS Secretary

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<v Speaker 1>Christy Nome, and we'll have a I have a comment

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<v Speaker 1>about the whole Olympic face Mari Largo face, but that

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<v Speaker 1>will be my comment on that. We'll we'll let you

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<v Speaker 1>all talk about the substance of it anyway. Let's hop

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<v Speaker 1>right into it. Let's hop right into it with our

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<v Speaker 1>Federal Reserve under investigation. We'll get into this a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit deeper in our mini pop but I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>bring it up here.

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<v Speaker 8>On Friday, the Department of Justice served the Federal Reserve

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<v Speaker 8>with grand jury subpoenas threatening a criminal indictment related to

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<v Speaker 8>my testimony before the Senate Banking Committee last June. That

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<v Speaker 8>testimony concerned, in part, a multi year project to renovate

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<v Speaker 8>historic Federal Reserve office buildings. I have deep respect for

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<v Speaker 8>the rule of law and for accountability in our democracy.

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<v Speaker 8>No one, certainly not the chair of the Federal Reserve,

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<v Speaker 8>is above the law. But this unprecedented action should be

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<v Speaker 8>seen in the broader context of the administration's threats and

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<v Speaker 8>ongoing pressure. This new threat is not about my testimony

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<v Speaker 8>last June, or about the run of of the Federal

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<v Speaker 8>Reserve buildings. It is not about Congress's oversight role. The Fed,

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<v Speaker 8>through testimony and other public disclosures, made every effort to

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<v Speaker 8>keep Congress informed about the renovation project.

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<v Speaker 1>Those are pretexts.

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<v Speaker 8>The threat of criminal charges is a consequence of the

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<v Speaker 8>Federal Reserve setting interest rates based on our best assessment

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<v Speaker 8>of what will serve the public rather than following the

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<v Speaker 8>preferences of the president.

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<v Speaker 7>This is about whether the Fed will be able to.

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<v Speaker 8>Continue to set interest rates based on evidence and economic conditions,

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<v Speaker 8>or whether instead monetary policy will be directed by political

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<v Speaker 8>pressure or intimidation.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, there's a reason we never hear or no

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<v Speaker 7>to fa atch areas rights to themselves.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the thing that's crazy about this is he literally

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<v Speaker 2>is going after every political enemy. And this time it's

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<v Speaker 2>not somebody that's on the other side of the aisle.

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<v Speaker 2>It's somebody that is non partisan, has a non partisan

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<v Speaker 2>role adjacent to the federal government, a quasi governmental agency,

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<v Speaker 2>and he still is going after them. Now they're saying

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<v Speaker 2>it's about these renovations, the renovations that they got in

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<v Speaker 2>a back and forth about.

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<v Speaker 4>You all saw that news conference where.

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<v Speaker 2>Jerome Poulli was said, and they seem like, nah, it

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<v Speaker 2>ain't it. This is now about that. They're saying it's

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<v Speaker 2>about that, But really it's because he won't say, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>you want lower interest rate, no problem, boo, I got you.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what this is all about.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the people have to understand the import of

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<v Speaker 1>Jerome pile Just briefly, the Federal Reserve is one of

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<v Speaker 1>the most powerful entities we have. He was appointed under

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<v Speaker 1>Barack Obama, served under Donald Trump, served under Joe Biden,

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<v Speaker 1>served again under Donald Trump. Has never met with a

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't report to the president. But they set monetary policy.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw you want to jump in real quick. Joy.

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<v Speaker 6>No, absolutely, no, keep going, But I think people need

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<v Speaker 6>to know this context, so go for it.

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<v Speaker 7>No.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just they set monetary policy, mortgage rates, etc.

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<v Speaker 1>All of those things are so important to the way

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<v Speaker 1>that we operate in our cash flows. He's one of

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<v Speaker 1>the most important people in the world and truth was right.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why we don't know who he is. Anybody else

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<v Speaker 1>need to try.

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<v Speaker 7>Terms are pointed obviously to go in and out of administrations,

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<v Speaker 7>So the FED chair and the boards are not connected

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<v Speaker 7>to the political wins of the president, whoever they may be, Democratic, Republican, truire.

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<v Speaker 6>And the thing that people need to understand is that

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<v Speaker 6>this is Project twenty twenty five. So RUSS vote. When

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<v Speaker 6>they were formulating Project twenty twenty five at the Heritage Foundation,

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<v Speaker 6>the purpose of it was to say that independent federal

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<v Speaker 6>agencies are no longer independent. That every federal agency exactly

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<v Speaker 6>has to report directly to the president, and the President

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<v Speaker 6>can direct them all and tell them what to do,

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<v Speaker 6>whether that's the Attorney General or the FED. These are

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<v Speaker 6>supposed to be independent agencies. And the FCC. Remember Brendan

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<v Speaker 6>Carr from the FCC, he wouldn't even say under sworn

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<v Speaker 6>testimony in Congress that the FCC is an independent agency.

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<v Speaker 4>It is.

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<v Speaker 6>And so these agencies are being forced to report directly

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<v Speaker 6>to Trump. And if Trump says lower interest rates, they're

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<v Speaker 6>supposed to obey. And he didn't, and now he's being investigated.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me find out that Kamala was right about twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five. Project twenty twenty five. Also, DHS is something

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<v Speaker 1>we've been talking about a lot. Minnesota Attorney General Keith

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<v Speaker 1>Ellison announces that Minnesota is suing DHS. Here's a clip.

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<v Speaker 9>We've come together and we're here to announce a lawsuit

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<v Speaker 9>we're finaling against the United States Department of Homeland Security

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<v Speaker 9>to end the unlawful, unprecedented surge of the federal law

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<v Speaker 9>enforcement agents into Minnesota.

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<v Speaker 1>Because this has to stop.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm glad he looked up from that page. I felt

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<v Speaker 7>that this has to stop. No, I mean, really, this

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<v Speaker 7>man who has had it. You know, he is fed up.

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<v Speaker 7>The only you know, consideration, I would have a recommendation

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<v Speaker 7>and Congressman now General Attorney General Ellison is a brilliant man.

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<v Speaker 7>But I can't wait to see that lawsuit that is

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<v Speaker 7>going to come down challenging the federal governments of investigatory

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<v Speaker 7>power for murders, deaths killing. I mean, we don't know

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<v Speaker 7>what investigation obviously has to take place, but basically barring

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<v Speaker 7>anybody from the local or the state of Minnesota from

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<v Speaker 7>having access to any of the evidence that is collecting,

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<v Speaker 7>and the untimely and tragic killing of miss Good that

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<v Speaker 7>that so many of us bore witness to in video recordings.

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<v Speaker 7>But I mean, I just think, I don't. I'm not

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<v Speaker 7>a lawyer. We got two of them on here and

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<v Speaker 7>Enjoy you play one great on TV, so so I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't know. But the supremacy of the federal government,

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<v Speaker 7>in my opinion, has to be challenged here, and I

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<v Speaker 7>think they oughta They ought to either bring their own

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<v Speaker 7>charges or figure out some way that they can get

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<v Speaker 7>let back into the evidence collecting process that the federal

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<v Speaker 7>governments right now in the way doing.

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<v Speaker 4>The bottom line, I mean no, you Goo.

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<v Speaker 2>The bottom line is their supremacy does not put them

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<v Speaker 2>above the law. And I think that is the bottom line.

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<v Speaker 2>They are breaking the law under the color of law,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think that's the biggest problem. I will tell

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<v Speaker 2>y'all all of their projects twenty twenty five. The thing

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<v Speaker 2>that saved me in twenty twenty five, where these attorneys

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<v Speaker 2>general all throughout the country who did the dogone thing,

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<v Speaker 2>and so I hope they continue to do that.

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<v Speaker 6>Joel Yield, No, I was just gonna say that in

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<v Speaker 6>the Derek Chauvin precedent, because remember George Floyd, same state, Minneapolis,

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<v Speaker 6>there were federal and state charges. And that's the reason

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<v Speaker 6>that Donald Trump cannot pardon Derek Chauvin because he has

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<v Speaker 6>like space in twenty two years in state charges. And

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<v Speaker 6>here's the challenge. I spoke with Paul Butler on the

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<v Speaker 6>Gorricho the other day, because they won't give the state

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<v Speaker 6>access to the evidence any prosecution would proceed without even

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<v Speaker 6>the car. The car is a piece of evidence. They

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<v Speaker 6>won't even let them have it. But Keith Ellison is

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<v Speaker 6>the attorney general who spearheaded making sure Derek Chauvin and

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<v Speaker 6>those other cops who killed George Floyd who murdered George

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<v Speaker 6>Floyd face Justice. I think whatever they have to do,

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<v Speaker 6>they should p sue this guy, Jonathan Ross, pursue him

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<v Speaker 6>for state charges. And note that a bunch of people

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<v Speaker 6>have now resigned from the Justice Department Civil Rights Division

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<v Speaker 6>because they won't even touch this case and instead wanted

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<v Speaker 6>to investigate Renee Good, the deed lady.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they actually did launch it, attempted attempted to launch

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<v Speaker 1>an investigation into her wife. And they just announced that

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<v Speaker 1>from the tap that the officer received, mister Ross, he

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<v Speaker 1>had two anonymous sources say that he suffered some internal

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<v Speaker 1>bleeding from that. I just wanted to throw that.

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<v Speaker 6>Skipped away looking perfectly normal and walk away.

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<v Speaker 1>Calls that F and B. I'm just telling you what

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<v Speaker 1>the people say.

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<v Speaker 7>The tap that he got by jumping in front of

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<v Speaker 7>the car.

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<v Speaker 4>On to the next headline.

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<v Speaker 1>The crazy part about it is, I just want people

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<v Speaker 1>to know that that is a tactic that's used by

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<v Speaker 1>law enforcement a lot. And we'll dig into Minnesota a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit more, but I did want people to know that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, law enforcement officers notoriously exhibit bad policing by

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<v Speaker 1>standing in front of vehicles or at the corner of

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<v Speaker 1>a vehicle, so when you turn away, they have the

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<v Speaker 1>ability to shoot you. Case called Ricky Cobb. All of that,

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<v Speaker 1>advise all of y'all to google it. Let's talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the Clinton's for a second. Let's get to them, because

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<v Speaker 1>they are skipping to testifying. They're skipping testifying. Yeah, skipping testifying,

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<v Speaker 1>skip testifying. They ain't going going they are defying the

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<v Speaker 1>recipe and they ain't going to testify. And here's the

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<v Speaker 1>headline that we're going to read for you, Republicans say

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<v Speaker 1>Clinton's risk contempt of Congress for not testifying on Epstein.

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<v Speaker 1>Just for some more added context, remember that there was

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<v Speaker 1>a law that was passed that Donald Trump signed that

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<v Speaker 1>said all the Epstein files had to be released, and

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<v Speaker 1>as of this taping, which is January fourteenth, I will

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<v Speaker 1>tell you that less than one percent of the files

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<v Speaker 1>have actually been released. What chy'all think about that?

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<v Speaker 2>I want to I want to say this first, and Nick,

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<v Speaker 2>if we can pull this on page six of the

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<v Speaker 2>letter that the clinton sent from their respective law firms

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<v Speaker 2>saying that they would not be appearing. So it's not

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<v Speaker 2>like they just didn't show up to school that day.

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<v Speaker 2>They actually sent a letter saying we have sent letters

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<v Speaker 2>on four different occasions responding voluntarily to your questions, and

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<v Speaker 2>what they decided to do is say, listen, we are

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<v Speaker 2>happy to ensure that our statements are sworn. You should

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<v Speaker 2>accept our sworn statements as declarations. And on page six

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<v Speaker 2>of the letter they say that we encourage you to

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<v Speaker 2>accept the sworn statements in lieu of testimony, because you've

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<v Speaker 2>done that for five of the six former attorneys general

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<v Speaker 2>who would have had the responsibility and the oversight of

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<v Speaker 2>this particular investigation, because the Clintons are not overseeing and

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<v Speaker 2>have never had any responsibility for overseeing an investigation into

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<v Speaker 2>mister Epstein, and by excusing the two former directors of

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<v Speaker 2>the FBI during the relevant periods altogether, so they've shown

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<v Speaker 2>that there is a targeted witch hunt against the Clintons

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<v Speaker 2>and they are not having and holding everyone else to

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<v Speaker 2>that same standard who would have had the jurisdictional authority

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<v Speaker 2>over this investigation. I think that's important for a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of reasons. I'm going to be honest with y'all. There

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<v Speaker 2>are some pieces in this letter that I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>are very good, and including you know, this is about

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<v Speaker 2>a personal relationship I think some of the language they

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<v Speaker 2>should have avoided. As their counsel, I am not their counsel,

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<v Speaker 2>but I wouldn't have encouraged that language. But they have

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<v Speaker 2>said they voluntarily complied, and that should be sufficient. I

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<v Speaker 2>do agree with that.

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<v Speaker 1>Joey, let me ask you a question. How you answered

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<v Speaker 1>the question when just common folks out on the street alike. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>we saw the pitches of Bill Clinton with Epstein. We

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<v Speaker 1>know they were friends and Republicans under both Donald excuse

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<v Speaker 1>me not Donald Trump, under both Joe Biden and Barack

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<v Speaker 1>Obama had access to the files and didn't release it

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<v Speaker 1>when they had it. How do you respond to that.

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<v Speaker 6>I think that the previous ags under Democratic administration should

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<v Speaker 6>have released it. I think Merrick Garland was a complete

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<v Speaker 6>waste of time and space on mass.

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<v Speaker 7>A.

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<v Speaker 6>Shit ain't shit, He ain't shit. And the reality of

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<v Speaker 6>it is it should have been released, and I think

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<v Speaker 6>that maybe a sensitivity to the Clinton aspect is why

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<v Speaker 6>it wasn't before. And that's a problem for me. I'm

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<v Speaker 6>not here to represent the Democratic Party. I've been a

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<v Speaker 6>Democrat for a while, but I'm barely in the party

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<v Speaker 6>at this point. I don't care about protecting Bill Clinton,

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<v Speaker 6>and I will know that the regime, as I like

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<v Speaker 6>to call them, they put out every picture they could

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<v Speaker 6>find a Bill Clinton, a hotel, Bill Clinton hanging with him,

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<v Speaker 6>So they put out what they had. I don't see

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<v Speaker 6>anything in there that makes me less curious about Donald

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<v Speaker 6>Trump's relationship with Jeffrey Epstein. There's over a thousand references

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<v Speaker 6>to him. They've only put out a fraction of that.

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<v Speaker 6>They're putting out pictures of dieing a Ross with her children,

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<v Speaker 6>trying to imply she was doing something funny. Now, lots

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<v Speaker 6>of people were hanging with Jeffrey Epstein. That's a problem.

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<v Speaker 6>That does not change the fact that Donald Trump is

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<v Speaker 6>heavily implicated, much deeper than Bill Clinton ever was with

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<v Speaker 6>Jeffrey Epstein. Those questions should never and yeah, Mayor Garland

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<v Speaker 6>ade shit, and Biden's people should have put it.

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<v Speaker 1>Out to agreed.

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<v Speaker 7>The only thing I would add is the Clintons in

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<v Speaker 7>their letter also indicated that they have given instruction in

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<v Speaker 7>their full permission to release anything that mentions the Clintons

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<v Speaker 7>in any of the files that the Department of Justice

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<v Speaker 7>apparently has yet to go through ninety nine percent of it.

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<v Speaker 7>But they basically said if you're truly after the facts,

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<v Speaker 7>ours is to the record. It's on the record. You

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<v Speaker 7>can access those. And if you have questions that we

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<v Speaker 7>can answer that are again to the facts and to accountability,

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<v Speaker 7>of which we had none over mister Epstein, then we

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<v Speaker 7>will provide that to you in sworn testimony. The only

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<v Speaker 7>thing I'm happier about, y'all is finally the Clintons have

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<v Speaker 7>woken up to see that the Republicans of the nineties,

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<v Speaker 7>who they thought were their glove and hand friends, you're

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<v Speaker 7>the same creepy as no good people than Bycoma right

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<v Speaker 7>now as the chairman of this committee. But they're the

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<v Speaker 7>same people that they were in the nineties. And all

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<v Speaker 7>they want to do is create a scapegoat for these folks.

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<v Speaker 7>They can run up some pictures and start some new

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<v Speaker 7>rumors about a pizza joint this time and somewhere in

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<v Speaker 7>New York, right, But it's ridiculous. I'm glad they woke

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<v Speaker 7>up and said we ain't going, We're not going.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm glad.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad they did to the most important fact of

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<v Speaker 1>this is that the Clintons aren't responsible for the investigation

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<v Speaker 1>or the Sweetheart deal that was cut into Epstein. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>that individual who cut the deal with Epstein actually became

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump's Secretary of Labor. And that's amazing how that works.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, y'all. Now hit dogs are hollering, people are upset,

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<v Speaker 1>and I try to yeahs is a genius in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of social media content, and so he's making fun of

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<v Speaker 1>megachurch pastors. And mind you, I want you to know

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<v Speaker 1>before we play this clip. This outfit is reminiscent of

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<v Speaker 1>an outfit that a megachurch pastor war to the t.

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<v Speaker 1>His entrance is an entrance that the megachurch pastor made

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<v Speaker 1>to the tea, and some of his ask of his

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<v Speaker 1>congregation is the same ass that a megachurch pastor has made.

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<v Speaker 7>Road a clip, Nick, let's see what any longer Chryso Dollar.

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<v Speaker 4>And names.

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<v Speaker 7>Read.

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<v Speaker 9>Wanda told us earlier this month that she cannot have

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<v Speaker 9>a baby anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>So I impregnated her with the Word of God. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to impregnate everyone with the Word of God.

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<v Speaker 4>Not that hip thrust.

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<v Speaker 1>You won't be pregnant with the Word of God.

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<v Speaker 9>Somebody in the congregation asks why I'm wearing Christian?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you're Christian? Lubdun because I'm a Christian and I walk.

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<v Speaker 10>In the blood of.

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<v Speaker 7>Tver M to pray.

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<v Speaker 11>Wow, wow, wow, go ahead, and it looks like Look,

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<v Speaker 11>I had caught some flat from folks about our assessment

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<v Speaker 11>about preachers their wives and wardrobe.

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<v Speaker 7>But I will tell you I said this to Angela yesterday.

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<v Speaker 7>People kept throwing to me this whole uh, the term modest.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, you're modest and your modest in you And

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<v Speaker 7>I just thought, you know, there's some people who have

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<v Speaker 7>their entire body covered to toe and the feathers, and

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<v Speaker 7>there are long drapes and there's you know, all this stuff.

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<v Speaker 7>And I keep thinking, is that because.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a distraction. I can't even follow the word.

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<v Speaker 7>I can't get a capacitated hat. You had a church,

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<v Speaker 7>they wear drapes, You get back in church.

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<v Speaker 1>You need to stop. I'm a piscopellion. I'm are you

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<v Speaker 1>my statements? You need to back in church?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you wait a minute, Are you a m e

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<v Speaker 2>or you're episcopealion?

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<v Speaker 1>You know if he was a I'm a pispeion. I'm Catholic,

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<v Speaker 1>light like Catholic, like I grew up acoly I was

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<v Speaker 1>an acolyte. Yes, drink wine and all that stuff.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, they have like background, they have like silky Rode

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<v Speaker 6>silk rolls and stuff too. But I have to say,

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<v Speaker 6>because Creslow Dollar name got called that he was in person,

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<v Speaker 6>he was the exact outfit of Pastor Mike Todd. My

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<v Speaker 6>Chester friend just texted me that I had to text

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<v Speaker 6>her to get it right. It was Pastor mike'sd that

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<v Speaker 6>was wearing Crep Dollar was.

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<v Speaker 4>Not you know, if he was just raising money for Jets.

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<v Speaker 7>No, no, no, he said, no, no.

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<v Speaker 12>No, no about it dollar again Jets and he needed million.

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<v Speaker 12>He needed a cool.

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<v Speaker 4>Thirty six million for America.

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<v Speaker 7>Lock the doors, lock the East.

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<v Speaker 6>The West, lay your money on the altar, lay on

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<v Speaker 6>the even until you do.

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<v Speaker 2>Even if Sawis can get it wrong, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>that it is a testament to the fact that God.

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<v Speaker 4>Uses all of us. If a rock can cry out,

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<v Speaker 4>certainly he can use.

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<v Speaker 6>I have to say that Jesus was po Jesus was poe,

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<v Speaker 6>and he was rising up against the scribes and the

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<v Speaker 6>Pharisees who were taking money from the people and not

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<v Speaker 6>serving the people. So I'm just saying this may be

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<v Speaker 6>being flashy, it may be popular with some of our

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<v Speaker 6>you know, our Christian faithful, our fellow. And I'm a Christian.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm not saying that that I'm not I believe in

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<v Speaker 6>the Lord, but I just know the Lord wasn't rolling

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<v Speaker 6>in Christian lubatants Christian because he Christian and lubatant and

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<v Speaker 6>a little.

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<v Speaker 2>Bit here Jerusalem's joy so that I can have a

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<v Speaker 2>red bottom and so say that I would like to

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<v Speaker 2>live in abundance in this Yes, on some trips, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Do not want the little short white guy down in Texas.

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<v Speaker 1>What's his name? Short white guy lighting, the little short

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<v Speaker 1>white guy that that preaches the abundance abundance gospel all

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<v Speaker 1>the time, the little man the last name.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, I'm I'm gonna get in trouble for this, but

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just gonna tell y'all right now, Joe Olstein reminds

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<v Speaker 2>me a lot of John Edwards.

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<v Speaker 7>Man.

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<v Speaker 2>He feels kind of like a sociopath. He blinks a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>In anybody that blink that much, I think they learn.

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<v Speaker 7>So nobody who stayed too long on your head and.

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<v Speaker 4>Then the people.

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<v Speaker 6>So I'm just like he said, you ain't messing up

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<v Speaker 6>my shirt with dirty but.

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<v Speaker 7>I think you came have not learned that you're don't

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<v Speaker 7>fight with Christians because they they they.

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<v Speaker 4>All four of us Christians.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm just just whether what they wear, what they say.

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<v Speaker 7>There's one judge.

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<v Speaker 1>In the next headline, next headline, guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Last thing you started it, Makari. But the only last

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<v Speaker 2>thing I'll say is Brother Mike and our church. And

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<v Speaker 2>back in the day said I ain't judging you, but

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just a fruit inspector.

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<v Speaker 4>So I'm just inspecting the fruit.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know you are responsible for the fruit too

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<v Speaker 2>bare and right now, literally I'm confused, but I would

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<v Speaker 2>like to wear a bread body for.

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<v Speaker 1>The For the record, I do want you to know

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<v Speaker 1>Drewski got thirty million views in twenty hours, so I

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<v Speaker 1>will tell you this. I wrote a whole chapter in

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<v Speaker 1>my last book, The Moment, about the fact that the

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<v Speaker 1>commercialization of the Black Church has become a problem, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think that we're beginning to see that hit.

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<v Speaker 7>Don Tyler wrote the whole book about that.

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<v Speaker 4>Spirit in the Spirit of Catholics and episcopealions.

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<v Speaker 1>Ah, let's move on, Joy, I'm gonna let you. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna let you toss to yours because this was a

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<v Speaker 1>great clip about our friend Robin.

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<v Speaker 6>Kelly absolutely representative the well no Robin Kelly Congress from

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<v Speaker 6>right now. But we you know, we believe it on God,

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<v Speaker 6>this is gonna be elevated position of the.

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<v Speaker 1>Brands.

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<v Speaker 6>You use it, all of us. So Robin Kelly has

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<v Speaker 6>decided that it is time for impeachment. And the person

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<v Speaker 6>that she's targeting for impeachment is not the orange one,

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<v Speaker 6>but rather his face fall off melted sister friend to

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<v Speaker 6>fold angry uh cowboy hat wearing Barbie Christy Nomes. She

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<v Speaker 6>says she should be impeached. And here's the clip.

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<v Speaker 10>Mister speaker, I rise today to announce I will be

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<v Speaker 10>impeaching Homeland Security Secretary Christie Nome. Secretary Nome has violated

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<v Speaker 10>the Constitution and she needs to be held accountable for

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<v Speaker 10>terrorizing our communities. Operation Midway Blitz has torn apart the

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<v Speaker 10>Chicago land area. President Trump declared war on Chicago, and

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<v Speaker 10>then he brought violence and destruction to our city and

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<v Speaker 10>our suburbs in the form of immigration enforcement. In my district,

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<v Speaker 10>federal agent repelled down from black Hawk helicopters and burst

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<v Speaker 10>into an apartment building in the South Shore area. They

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<v Speaker 10>drag us citizens and non citizens alike out of their

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<v Speaker 10>beds in the middle of the night. They claim the

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<v Speaker 10>apartment was infiltrated by members of a Venezuelan gang. I

0:24:17.720 --> 0:24:21.920
<v Speaker 10>don't understand this president's obsession with Venezuela, but they did

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<v Speaker 10>not arrest a single member from that gang.

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<v Speaker 1>She was a matter of fact, I want to know

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<v Speaker 1>what spoke to you about that clip, because you must

0:24:30.880 --> 0:24:34.080
<v Speaker 1>have just been watching watching Congress one day. But that

0:24:34.359 --> 0:24:37.400
<v Speaker 1>was powerful. And we always talk about people doing the work,

0:24:37.400 --> 0:24:39.720
<v Speaker 1>and I think that although I'm not a huge fan

0:24:39.760 --> 0:24:42.520
<v Speaker 1>of putting another impeachment resolution about Donald Trump, I do

0:24:42.600 --> 0:24:45.639
<v Speaker 1>get a however, whatever anyway.

0:24:45.400 --> 0:24:47.520
<v Speaker 4>I do think they definitely need to have on this show.

0:24:47.800 --> 0:24:50.040
<v Speaker 1>We were to have it next time. Anyway, I do

0:24:50.119 --> 0:24:52.760
<v Speaker 1>think that this impeachment, bringing her in front of that's

0:24:52.760 --> 0:24:54.520
<v Speaker 1>why this selection is so important, bringing her in front

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<v Speaker 1>of oversight, talking about the things that she did. I

0:24:57.560 --> 0:25:01.520
<v Speaker 1>think it's so important because the DHS is running by yeah, and.

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<v Speaker 6>The thing that I noted about that she went on

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<v Speaker 6>obviously to talk about Renee Goods murder in Minneapolis, but

0:25:09.680 --> 0:25:12.840
<v Speaker 6>I really wanted to focus on the part about the

0:25:12.880 --> 0:25:18.320
<v Speaker 6>ice agents repelling onto that apartment building in Chicago, as

0:25:18.320 --> 0:25:21.640
<v Speaker 6>She pointed out, if they were there to supposedly get

0:25:21.680 --> 0:25:25.440
<v Speaker 6>members of Trend de Aragua, this narco terrorist gang that

0:25:25.520 --> 0:25:28.440
<v Speaker 6>they that were supposedly at war with, they didn't arrest

0:25:28.520 --> 0:25:30.640
<v Speaker 6>a single person in charge them with being a part

0:25:30.680 --> 0:25:34.640
<v Speaker 6>of that gang. There were no arrests regarding gang activity

0:25:35.040 --> 0:25:38.080
<v Speaker 6>or terrorism. But what they did do, and she pointed

0:25:38.119 --> 0:25:42.720
<v Speaker 6>this out, was film the entire encounter and release that

0:25:42.840 --> 0:25:46.600
<v Speaker 6>footage as like a promo video, like an episode of cops.

0:25:46.960 --> 0:25:50.040
<v Speaker 6>What people need to understand, as y'all are listening to

0:25:50.160 --> 0:25:54.840
<v Speaker 6>this podcast, ICE is not necessarily arresting more people than

0:25:54.880 --> 0:26:00.480
<v Speaker 6>Biden than during the Biden or Obama administration, just doing

0:26:00.480 --> 0:26:04.040
<v Speaker 6>it more publicly. They're doing it more theatrically. They're sending

0:26:04.080 --> 0:26:07.440
<v Speaker 6>more people to private detention, which is enriching private detention

0:26:07.600 --> 0:26:11.480
<v Speaker 6>companies like Geogroup, who gave money to Trump, and they're

0:26:11.520 --> 0:26:16.000
<v Speaker 6>doing the theatrics and cruelty of the process more than they're

0:26:16.040 --> 0:26:20.720
<v Speaker 6>actually arresting people for crimes. They're not finding criminals repelling

0:26:20.760 --> 0:26:24.960
<v Speaker 6>onto their apartments, extracting them and charging them in most cases,

0:26:25.000 --> 0:26:28.160
<v Speaker 6>they're holding them in ICE detention, making money for these

0:26:28.200 --> 0:26:31.400
<v Speaker 6>private prison operators who are getting record sums and whose

0:26:31.480 --> 0:26:34.920
<v Speaker 6>stocks are skyrocketing, and then they're releasing them. Where are

0:26:34.920 --> 0:26:38.800
<v Speaker 6>the prosecutions of supposed narco terrists? This is all theatrics.

0:26:38.800 --> 0:26:41.760
<v Speaker 6>It's designed to distract from the Epstein files. It's designed

0:26:41.800 --> 0:26:45.080
<v Speaker 6>to tell Trump's base that he's keeping his promise of deportation,

0:26:45.440 --> 0:26:48.800
<v Speaker 6>and to show videos of the cruelty. The cruelty is

0:26:48.880 --> 0:26:49.960
<v Speaker 6>literally the point.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, And I think we have to remember that

0:26:52.359 --> 0:26:55.040
<v Speaker 1>ICE was founded in two thousand and one, right. ICE

0:26:55.119 --> 0:26:59.479
<v Speaker 1>is not an age old federal agency that we're accustomed to.

0:26:59.520 --> 0:27:01.560
<v Speaker 1>And I think that even the mission, we can argue

0:27:01.560 --> 0:27:04.280
<v Speaker 1>over that mission, some people agree, some people don't agree,

0:27:04.520 --> 0:27:08.440
<v Speaker 1>but at one point served a purpose. We can argue

0:27:08.440 --> 0:27:10.919
<v Speaker 1>that point. But I think that regardless of how you

0:27:10.960 --> 0:27:14.560
<v Speaker 1>feel about that, even just an amish that I pronounced

0:27:14.560 --> 0:27:18.320
<v Speaker 1>this last right amash amos As has come around to

0:27:18.359 --> 0:27:21.840
<v Speaker 1>say that it has so diverged away from its original

0:27:22.320 --> 0:27:25.960
<v Speaker 1>mission and purpose, which you can agree or disagree was whatever,

0:27:26.520 --> 0:27:29.800
<v Speaker 1>that now ICE has no place in American society. And

0:27:29.840 --> 0:27:32.080
<v Speaker 1>I think that a lot of people, from Joe Rogan

0:27:32.400 --> 0:27:36.040
<v Speaker 1>to justin Homage to even libertarians are coming to say

0:27:36.160 --> 0:27:38.520
<v Speaker 1>it's like the Gestapo in the middle of the street. Really,

0:27:38.560 --> 0:27:40.399
<v Speaker 1>what are they doing? And is this what America should

0:27:40.400 --> 0:27:40.720
<v Speaker 1>look like?

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<v Speaker 7>Not to mention their budget to be so irrelevant, is

0:27:44.520 --> 0:27:48.359
<v Speaker 7>larger than what the Navy is that the latest they.

0:27:48.200 --> 0:27:49.000
<v Speaker 1>Have a badget.

0:27:49.040 --> 0:27:49.640
<v Speaker 4>I didn't know that.

0:27:49.800 --> 0:27:54.720
<v Speaker 7>Larger than the unit of the Armed Services, one of

0:27:54.720 --> 0:27:59.360
<v Speaker 7>the units of the Armed Services charged with protecting the peace, safety,

0:27:59.400 --> 0:28:01.679
<v Speaker 7>security of the United States and all of its interest

0:28:01.680 --> 0:28:05.200
<v Speaker 7>and assets around the world. I mean, Donald Trump has

0:28:05.200 --> 0:28:09.080
<v Speaker 7>gotten out of this group exactly what he has always

0:28:09.119 --> 0:28:12.560
<v Speaker 7>intended his own police force. And they are taking their

0:28:12.600 --> 0:28:15.240
<v Speaker 7>instructions from the top, which is why they are so

0:28:15.480 --> 0:28:18.840
<v Speaker 7>rickety everywhere they go. You know how they say, your

0:28:18.840 --> 0:28:22.560
<v Speaker 7>slip is showing. Everything is showing about these folks because

0:28:22.600 --> 0:28:27.200
<v Speaker 7>they have one mission, and that is to serve Donald Trump.

0:28:27.520 --> 0:28:29.080
<v Speaker 7>And I will tell you, y'all, we got to be

0:28:29.760 --> 0:28:33.560
<v Speaker 7>We're gonna have to be fierce and serious and intentional

0:28:33.560 --> 0:28:37.879
<v Speaker 7>about our takedown of this organization which just had his

0:28:38.160 --> 0:28:42.040
<v Speaker 7>budget doubled and one year and the big bad ugly

0:28:42.080 --> 0:28:45.560
<v Speaker 7>bill that was passed by the Republicans proposed by Trump

0:28:46.720 --> 0:28:49.600
<v Speaker 7>so that this group doesn't become the group that tries

0:28:49.640 --> 0:28:53.240
<v Speaker 7>to keep us from ballot boxes either, in the midterms

0:28:53.280 --> 0:28:55.200
<v Speaker 7>or or in the general elections. And I don't mean

0:28:55.240 --> 0:28:57.760
<v Speaker 7>to throw that out to be sensational. I do believe

0:28:57.800 --> 0:29:01.600
<v Speaker 7>this man is building his own on m forces for

0:29:01.720 --> 0:29:02.920
<v Speaker 7>his purposes alone.

0:29:03.560 --> 0:29:03.920
<v Speaker 6>Amen.

0:29:04.960 --> 0:29:08.400
<v Speaker 2>I just looked up a headline Andrew to your point.

0:29:08.560 --> 0:29:10.880
<v Speaker 2>It says ICE is now richer than most of the

0:29:10.920 --> 0:29:14.720
<v Speaker 2>world's militaries thanks to Trump's new funding annual budget increase

0:29:14.800 --> 0:29:17.440
<v Speaker 2>from eight point seven billion to twenty seven point seven

0:29:17.480 --> 0:29:21.600
<v Speaker 2>billion over the summer. And they said was seventy five

0:29:21.800 --> 0:29:26.000
<v Speaker 2>billion dollars allocated to the agency over the next four years.

0:29:26.000 --> 0:29:28.120
<v Speaker 2>We're going to have that article in the show notes

0:29:28.160 --> 0:29:30.400
<v Speaker 2>for our viewers and our listeners to read.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, but I just think that ICE. Let's talk

0:29:33.000 --> 0:29:34.560
<v Speaker 1>about it. I mean, let's flush this out a little bit,

0:29:34.560 --> 0:29:36.240
<v Speaker 1>because I know we didn't spend enough time on Renee

0:29:36.320 --> 0:29:51.800
<v Speaker 1>Good last week because of the timing of our taping. ICE.

0:29:52.240 --> 0:29:54.800
<v Speaker 1>They're still in Minnesota, They're still in American cities. I mean,

0:29:54.800 --> 0:29:58.440
<v Speaker 1>we had the National Guard in American cities. We're seeing them.

0:29:58.560 --> 0:30:01.280
<v Speaker 1>Ice even just the same day or a day later,

0:30:01.320 --> 0:30:06.960
<v Speaker 1>shot two individuals in the Great State of Oregon. And

0:30:07.080 --> 0:30:07.719
<v Speaker 1>then I get that one.

0:30:07.800 --> 0:30:08.880
<v Speaker 7>I have to make sure time.

0:30:09.080 --> 0:30:12.360
<v Speaker 1>Good, Thank you, I was deliberate. Thank you. And so

0:30:12.600 --> 0:30:14.880
<v Speaker 1>I think that we need to have a conversation about

0:30:14.960 --> 0:30:17.000
<v Speaker 1>I want to I want to talk on the issue

0:30:17.000 --> 0:30:19.240
<v Speaker 1>of law enforcement and tactics, but I wanted to hear

0:30:19.240 --> 0:30:21.600
<v Speaker 1>you all's thoughts about Renee good, what we're seeing in

0:30:21.680 --> 0:30:24.160
<v Speaker 1>Minnesota and that how the leadership is meeting this moment

0:30:24.280 --> 0:30:24.480
<v Speaker 1>or not.

0:30:25.080 --> 0:30:29.680
<v Speaker 7>Joy, you're gonna share what you trusted that that video, Oh.

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<v Speaker 4>There is the woman who was pulled out of the vehicle.

0:30:32.160 --> 0:30:33.080
<v Speaker 4>We do have that video.

0:30:33.360 --> 0:30:44.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, absolutely, maybe we can start there.

0:30:51.480 --> 0:30:53.760
<v Speaker 1>Just so you know what we saw was, Yeah, they

0:30:53.920 --> 0:30:56.160
<v Speaker 1>arrested and they pulling not just black and brown folk,

0:30:56.240 --> 0:30:58.440
<v Speaker 1>but they pulling, They shooting white women in the face,

0:30:58.520 --> 0:31:00.200
<v Speaker 1>pulling them out the car. I don't know what he

0:31:00.240 --> 0:31:00.400
<v Speaker 1>was like.

0:31:00.960 --> 0:31:04.840
<v Speaker 7>This coman was Latino, but she also described herself as handicapped.

0:31:05.120 --> 0:31:06.240
<v Speaker 4>Yes, oh yeah, and.

0:31:06.200 --> 0:31:08.040
<v Speaker 1>She was on the way to it, and she was

0:31:08.080 --> 0:31:10.360
<v Speaker 1>on the way to a doctor's appointment. Just to give

0:31:10.440 --> 0:31:12.920
<v Speaker 1>full context that the people couldn't see it. They smashed

0:31:12.960 --> 0:31:15.880
<v Speaker 1>out her windows and drug her out the car. Joy

0:31:15.920 --> 0:31:17.880
<v Speaker 1>brought this to our attention. So, Joy, I want to

0:31:17.920 --> 0:31:21.880
<v Speaker 1>hear your just fifty thousand foot view of what we're

0:31:21.920 --> 0:31:24.520
<v Speaker 1>seeing and you know why we're seeing this and doesn't

0:31:24.520 --> 0:31:27.080
<v Speaker 1>have any tie into the fact that what did he

0:31:27.160 --> 0:31:30.040
<v Speaker 1>call the Somoli community garbage? Is that what he is?

0:31:30.080 --> 0:31:30.960
<v Speaker 1>That what he called him, He's.

0:31:30.840 --> 0:31:33.800
<v Speaker 6>Called him everything but a child of God? Yeah, garbage, criminals.

0:31:34.000 --> 0:31:36.360
<v Speaker 6>I mean, the reality is they're also, by the way,

0:31:36.360 --> 0:31:40.600
<v Speaker 6>attacking Indigenous people. Several tribal members have been picked up

0:31:40.600 --> 0:31:42.640
<v Speaker 6>by ice, which is about as ironic as it gets.

0:31:42.680 --> 0:31:47.240
<v Speaker 6>The colonizers dragging Indigenous people out of their cars and

0:31:47.320 --> 0:31:50.960
<v Speaker 6>attempting to call them quote unquote illegal. And so I

0:31:51.000 --> 0:31:53.880
<v Speaker 6>think what you're seeing now, I think to the point

0:31:54.040 --> 0:31:56.400
<v Speaker 6>that Andrew made is it's just terrorism. At this point,

0:31:56.640 --> 0:31:59.160
<v Speaker 6>they're trying to terrorize communities. They're going door to door

0:31:59.200 --> 0:32:02.160
<v Speaker 6>in states like Minnesel anyone who's in the street who

0:32:02.160 --> 0:32:04.800
<v Speaker 6>doesn't immediately jump when they say jump, they're dragging them

0:32:04.800 --> 0:32:08.000
<v Speaker 6>out of their cars, smashing their cars, driving their cars away,

0:32:08.040 --> 0:32:11.840
<v Speaker 6>which is car theft, kidnapping, people, grabbing people out of work.

0:32:11.880 --> 0:32:13.600
<v Speaker 6>If you're rude to them, they feel that they have

0:32:13.680 --> 0:32:16.480
<v Speaker 6>the right to push you, shove you, brutalize you to

0:32:16.480 --> 0:32:18.400
<v Speaker 6>try to get you to react so that they can

0:32:18.440 --> 0:32:20.920
<v Speaker 6>then charge you with what they've charged Lamonica mcgiver with

0:32:21.480 --> 0:32:24.400
<v Speaker 6>obstructing and attempting to make her into a criminal. We're

0:32:24.440 --> 0:32:27.480
<v Speaker 6>literally just witnessing. And I think Andrew called it right

0:32:27.840 --> 0:32:31.000
<v Speaker 6>is it is a gestapo? You know, even Joe Rogan

0:32:31.000 --> 0:32:34.000
<v Speaker 6>can be right once in a while. Because Trump has

0:32:34.040 --> 0:32:36.560
<v Speaker 6>his own paramilitary force. We don't know if these people

0:32:36.600 --> 0:32:40.520
<v Speaker 6>were former January sixth insurrectionists. Are they proud boys? They're

0:32:40.560 --> 0:32:43.280
<v Speaker 6>doing forty seven days of training in honor of Donald

0:32:43.280 --> 0:32:45.960
<v Speaker 6>Trump being the forty seventh president. They drop the amount

0:32:45.960 --> 0:32:48.960
<v Speaker 6>of training down from ninety days to forty seven days

0:32:48.960 --> 0:32:51.040
<v Speaker 6>in honor of Trump. It's a joke. They're not even

0:32:51.080 --> 0:32:53.240
<v Speaker 6>training them. And I will note, by the way, they're

0:32:53.280 --> 0:32:56.600
<v Speaker 6>getting ten thousand dollars signing bonuses, in some cases fifty

0:32:56.640 --> 0:32:59.560
<v Speaker 6>thousand dollars bonuses. They're earning between sixty and one hundred

0:32:59.600 --> 0:33:03.400
<v Speaker 6>thousand a year. In an economy where people can't get jobs,

0:33:03.560 --> 0:33:06.600
<v Speaker 6>they're leaving this as essentially the only job available and

0:33:06.680 --> 0:33:10.840
<v Speaker 6>heavily recruiting white men at gun shows and anywhere else

0:33:10.880 --> 0:33:13.520
<v Speaker 6>they think they can get them. And I'll lastly add

0:33:13.760 --> 0:33:18.400
<v Speaker 6>they're encouraging retired Border patrol people who left the Border

0:33:18.400 --> 0:33:22.280
<v Speaker 6>Patrol because they were dissatisfied with Biden's policies. They're recruiting

0:33:22.320 --> 0:33:25.160
<v Speaker 6>them back and giving them huge signing bonuses, and they're

0:33:25.160 --> 0:33:27.840
<v Speaker 6>forgiving their student loans. If the small percentage that have

0:33:27.880 --> 0:33:28.880
<v Speaker 6>college degrees, I.

0:33:28.920 --> 0:33:30.760
<v Speaker 1>Mind you just to give some Oh, I wanted to

0:33:30.840 --> 0:33:32.880
<v Speaker 1>just to give a clow context. Now. I thought of you.

0:33:33.760 --> 0:33:37.840
<v Speaker 1>Barbers and beauticians in most states have to have longer

0:33:37.880 --> 0:33:42.080
<v Speaker 1>than forty seven days of training than Ice does in

0:33:42.120 --> 0:33:44.360
<v Speaker 1>your local communities. I just wanted to throw that footnote

0:33:44.360 --> 0:33:46.040
<v Speaker 1>out there. I'm sorry, Angela, go ahead, No.

0:33:46.120 --> 0:33:46.640
<v Speaker 4>You're good.

0:33:47.120 --> 0:33:49.880
<v Speaker 2>I had my solo pod tape Tuesday, and I had

0:33:50.000 --> 0:33:53.640
<v Speaker 2>Rachelle Balilin, who's the sheriff from Philadelphia, who talked about

0:33:54.240 --> 0:33:56.880
<v Speaker 2>what will happen if Ice comes and tries to do

0:33:56.920 --> 0:33:59.600
<v Speaker 2>the same thing in her city. What I think is

0:33:59.640 --> 0:34:02.560
<v Speaker 2>important and is the coordination that needs to happen between

0:34:02.640 --> 0:34:06.240
<v Speaker 2>law enforcement agencies, local and state law enforcement agencies, and

0:34:07.360 --> 0:34:11.680
<v Speaker 2>the city attorney, the state's DA, you know, the district attorney.

0:34:12.360 --> 0:34:14.759
<v Speaker 2>It's really really important that these folks are all working

0:34:14.800 --> 0:34:20.960
<v Speaker 2>together state attorney General. We're seeing that happen in Minneapolis,

0:34:20.960 --> 0:34:24.080
<v Speaker 2>but we're also seeing where the mayor is currently saying

0:34:24.080 --> 0:34:27.279
<v Speaker 2>that ICE agents outnumber their law enforcement and so they're

0:34:27.280 --> 0:34:30.640
<v Speaker 2>not able to arrest them in ways that makes sense.

0:34:30.760 --> 0:34:34.000
<v Speaker 2>What rachelle Blau said on the show is that the

0:34:34.080 --> 0:34:38.279
<v Speaker 2>DA can still issue a warrant, right like, they can

0:34:38.320 --> 0:34:41.960
<v Speaker 2>still Yes, they can still issue a warrant for the

0:34:42.080 --> 0:34:45.279
<v Speaker 2>arrest of these ICE agents. The challenge on the back

0:34:45.360 --> 0:34:47.000
<v Speaker 2>end is we all know as these people are walking

0:34:47.040 --> 0:34:51.200
<v Speaker 2>around masked, which should not be the case. Congressman Jasmine

0:34:51.200 --> 0:34:55.680
<v Speaker 2>Crockett introduced legislation last year in twenty twenty five calling

0:34:55.719 --> 0:34:58.879
<v Speaker 2>for It's the Clear Act, calling for them to have

0:34:58.960 --> 0:35:01.400
<v Speaker 2>to be unmasked, and I think that is the least

0:35:01.719 --> 0:35:04.480
<v Speaker 2>they can do. Some of these people are faking as

0:35:04.520 --> 0:35:07.160
<v Speaker 2>if they're ICE agents, and I think that's another big piece.

0:35:07.640 --> 0:35:10.520
<v Speaker 2>So when all in all, I really want there to

0:35:10.600 --> 0:35:13.000
<v Speaker 2>be coordination with law enforcement. The thing that I think

0:35:13.120 --> 0:35:17.719
<v Speaker 2>is rich about this happening in Minneapolis is Joy brought

0:35:17.719 --> 0:35:18.440
<v Speaker 2>it up earlier.

0:35:18.640 --> 0:35:22.200
<v Speaker 4>This is the epicenter of the George Floyd murder and the.

0:35:24.560 --> 0:35:29.960
<v Speaker 2>Resulting protests, you know, the community unrest because people are like,

0:35:30.239 --> 0:35:33.040
<v Speaker 2>this is what Minneapolis Police department could do to one

0:35:33.040 --> 0:35:36.960
<v Speaker 2>of our own. This is also the epicenter of Filando

0:35:37.080 --> 0:35:40.960
<v Speaker 2>Casteele's murder, which happened, of course before George Floyd. And

0:35:40.960 --> 0:35:44.600
<v Speaker 2>we should not escape that the same people that this

0:35:44.719 --> 0:35:50.120
<v Speaker 2>community now needs to rely upon to overcome ICE are

0:35:50.200 --> 0:35:52.520
<v Speaker 2>the same folks who took the lives of black men

0:35:52.560 --> 0:35:56.319
<v Speaker 2>in our community. And so we have to wrestle with

0:35:56.360 --> 0:36:00.759
<v Speaker 2>the trauma that exists just holding that like, I need

0:36:00.760 --> 0:36:03.439
<v Speaker 2>you to work with me now, and I'm barely trusting you.

0:36:04.040 --> 0:36:06.520
<v Speaker 2>And so somebody like put in the comments yesterday or

0:36:06.760 --> 0:36:09.319
<v Speaker 2>tuesday for the pod they said, well.

0:36:09.120 --> 0:36:10.480
<v Speaker 4>Now you trust law enforcement.

0:36:10.560 --> 0:36:13.480
<v Speaker 2>It's not that but this is all hands on deck approach,

0:36:13.560 --> 0:36:18.120
<v Speaker 2>and I need law enforcement to prove itself trustworthy. So

0:36:18.160 --> 0:36:20.239
<v Speaker 2>what does it look like to coordinate with the DA,

0:36:20.360 --> 0:36:23.919
<v Speaker 2>to coordinate with the Attorney General to ensure that ICE

0:36:24.000 --> 0:36:26.520
<v Speaker 2>isn't running a MUK Because it was black men first,

0:36:26.680 --> 0:36:28.720
<v Speaker 2>Now it's a white woman who was shot in the face,

0:36:28.840 --> 0:36:30.640
<v Speaker 2>and now it's her wife that they're trying to place

0:36:30.719 --> 0:36:33.919
<v Speaker 2>under investigation by the FED. So if the FEDS want

0:36:33.920 --> 0:36:35.799
<v Speaker 2>to act above the law, that I need for the

0:36:35.880 --> 0:36:38.400
<v Speaker 2>states and for the cities and for counties to step

0:36:38.440 --> 0:36:39.680
<v Speaker 2>in and do what is the right thing to do?

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<v Speaker 7>With this, I shudder in some ways to think about

0:36:42.120 --> 0:36:46.239
<v Speaker 7>what kind of armed conflict can be created in communities

0:36:46.280 --> 0:36:50.680
<v Speaker 7>all around this country if the state, in the counties

0:36:50.719 --> 0:36:55.400
<v Speaker 7>and the cities were to ban together under their states leadership,

0:36:55.440 --> 0:36:59.360
<v Speaker 7>county and city leadership against federal agents who is already

0:36:59.400 --> 0:37:02.600
<v Speaker 7>know it's already said, are are are showing up military

0:37:02.640 --> 0:37:07.600
<v Speaker 7>style larger than the collective resources of of of security

0:37:07.719 --> 0:37:11.520
<v Speaker 7>a community can offer. I will you know, but Carl,

0:37:11.600 --> 0:37:14.640
<v Speaker 7>last week you said it was sort of tongue in cheek.

0:37:14.760 --> 0:37:16.400
<v Speaker 7>You know, you can tell a guy who's never been

0:37:16.440 --> 0:37:18.320
<v Speaker 7>in a fight, you know, as a kid or otherwise,

0:37:18.840 --> 0:37:22.279
<v Speaker 7>these agents reek of of of of what it is

0:37:22.320 --> 0:37:28.879
<v Speaker 7>to be dislike a not seen, ignored all throughout your

0:37:28.920 --> 0:37:33.839
<v Speaker 7>middle high school time. Uh didn't they didn't you know,

0:37:34.160 --> 0:37:40.520
<v Speaker 7>all these things and now all of us, Yeah, someone

0:37:40.840 --> 0:37:44.200
<v Speaker 7>someone's in. And the lesson here isn't like being mean

0:37:44.239 --> 0:37:47.759
<v Speaker 7>to people. It is actually embraced people see them, you know,

0:37:47.880 --> 0:37:49.719
<v Speaker 7>so that when they get the job that they think

0:37:49.760 --> 0:37:51.680
<v Speaker 7>is the most important thing they've ever done in their

0:37:51.719 --> 0:37:53.839
<v Speaker 7>lives on earth, and now they've got the power of

0:37:53.840 --> 0:37:57.720
<v Speaker 7>God at their waist belt to take life. That that

0:37:57.719 --> 0:38:01.000
<v Speaker 7>that the abusiveness I can't. I can't. I can't shut

0:38:01.000 --> 0:38:03.200
<v Speaker 7>my eyes to the video that we showed earlier of

0:38:03.280 --> 0:38:06.960
<v Speaker 7>this woman who's one getting conflicting instructions from these guys.

0:38:07.040 --> 0:38:10.360
<v Speaker 7>They're yelling and then they band together, almost like a gang.

0:38:10.760 --> 0:38:15.480
<v Speaker 7>There are no lanyards with their names swinging from their chests. No,

0:38:15.680 --> 0:38:19.440
<v Speaker 7>it is camouflage. Their faces are covered and with a

0:38:19.440 --> 0:38:22.520
<v Speaker 7>brief opening at the nose and at the eyes. This

0:38:22.560 --> 0:38:26.839
<v Speaker 7>woman can't tell that these are law abiding citings, law enforcers,

0:38:26.960 --> 0:38:28.799
<v Speaker 7>or gangs who are trying to pull her out of

0:38:28.840 --> 0:38:33.560
<v Speaker 7>her car. And we're supposed to be respectful to people

0:38:33.719 --> 0:38:36.200
<v Speaker 7>who don't even have the dignity and self respect to

0:38:36.200 --> 0:38:39.520
<v Speaker 7>show up and show your goddamn face. Local law enforcement

0:38:39.520 --> 0:38:41.959
<v Speaker 7>has to when they patrol in our cities. They can't

0:38:41.960 --> 0:38:45.520
<v Speaker 7>show up at your doorstep massless, with no name covering

0:38:45.560 --> 0:38:47.600
<v Speaker 7>it and refusing to tell you who they are. They

0:38:47.640 --> 0:38:50.400
<v Speaker 7>must identify themselves, and if they haven't done it, you,

0:38:50.440 --> 0:38:53.280
<v Speaker 7>as a citizen, can compel them to do it. These guys,

0:38:53.320 --> 0:38:56.799
<v Speaker 7>if you ask them, they say, you have no right

0:38:56.880 --> 0:38:59.280
<v Speaker 7>to ask me anything. I'm gonna arrest you. They start

0:38:59.440 --> 0:39:02.960
<v Speaker 7>bullying you, ganging up on you. These guys aren't law

0:39:03.000 --> 0:39:08.000
<v Speaker 7>enforcement officials. These aren't trained season law enforcement officials. These

0:39:08.080 --> 0:39:12.439
<v Speaker 7>these folks are thugs, That's what they are. They're thus

0:39:12.480 --> 0:39:15.600
<v Speaker 7>and they're they're known by a different recognition than how

0:39:15.640 --> 0:39:17.960
<v Speaker 7>we normally call them. But it doesn't get more thuggish

0:39:18.040 --> 0:39:20.600
<v Speaker 7>than what they're doing and cowardly. And I would like

0:39:20.680 --> 0:39:24.960
<v Speaker 7>to see federal judges decide that law enforcement officials cannot

0:39:25.120 --> 0:39:28.800
<v Speaker 7>enter any place in this country with a masked face

0:39:29.280 --> 0:39:30.360
<v Speaker 7>and no name badge.

0:39:30.440 --> 0:39:32.640
<v Speaker 1>Let me just tell you why Andrew's point is so salient,

0:39:32.680 --> 0:39:35.880
<v Speaker 1>because you were your segue was just brilliant, because I

0:39:35.920 --> 0:39:38.000
<v Speaker 1>wanted to talk about the role of the federal government,

0:39:38.040 --> 0:39:40.400
<v Speaker 1>our court system, and the laws we have in place.

0:39:40.440 --> 0:39:43.960
<v Speaker 1>Because I wanted to quote jd. Vance who recently said

0:39:44.040 --> 0:39:46.160
<v Speaker 1>the president here is very simple. You have a federal

0:39:46.239 --> 0:39:50.640
<v Speaker 1>law enforcement officer engaging in federal law enforcement enforcement action.

0:39:51.280 --> 0:39:55.000
<v Speaker 1>That's a federal issue. That guy is protected by absolute immunity.

0:39:55.280 --> 0:39:57.880
<v Speaker 1>He was doing his job. Let me also tell you this,

0:39:58.440 --> 0:40:01.360
<v Speaker 1>that's a lie. That is not correct, That is not

0:40:01.480 --> 0:40:04.080
<v Speaker 1>the truth. That is nowhere near what the law states.

0:40:04.200 --> 0:40:07.280
<v Speaker 1>But we are having whether or not it's an ice agent,

0:40:07.440 --> 0:40:08.960
<v Speaker 1>or whether or not you are in the middle of

0:40:08.960 --> 0:40:11.680
<v Speaker 1>Williamsburg County, South Carolina, where I'm not sure they have

0:40:11.760 --> 0:40:15.440
<v Speaker 1>a traffic light and an officer shoots you. We're having

0:40:15.480 --> 0:40:18.720
<v Speaker 1>a serious, robust issue about qualified immunity in this country.

0:40:18.880 --> 0:40:22.240
<v Speaker 1>That's why elections are important. That's why these house seats

0:40:22.239 --> 0:40:26.440
<v Speaker 1>are so important, because, yes, qualified immunity is an issue.

0:40:26.520 --> 0:40:29.000
<v Speaker 1>That's also why he stood on the corner of the car.

0:40:29.320 --> 0:40:32.680
<v Speaker 1>That's also why that family, in all likelihood is going

0:40:32.760 --> 0:40:35.560
<v Speaker 1>to have a very difficult time recouping anything in a

0:40:35.600 --> 0:40:38.400
<v Speaker 1>civil settlement, because that officer is simply going to be

0:40:38.480 --> 0:40:42.239
<v Speaker 1>able to say that I believed, that's his words, I

0:40:42.360 --> 0:40:45.520
<v Speaker 1>reasonably believe that my life was in danger. That is

0:40:45.560 --> 0:40:48.319
<v Speaker 1>all they have to say. And qualified immunity is a

0:40:48.520 --> 0:40:50.680
<v Speaker 1>very real issue, and it's something that's coming to the

0:40:50.680 --> 0:40:53.560
<v Speaker 1>forefront when we're talking about issues like this. And I

0:40:53.600 --> 0:40:57.280
<v Speaker 1>just want the audience to understand that this good family,

0:40:57.520 --> 0:41:00.920
<v Speaker 1>there is a very high likelihood that like men black families,

0:41:01.200 --> 0:41:04.080
<v Speaker 1>like both of John for example, they will never see

0:41:04.120 --> 0:41:07.520
<v Speaker 1>any type of justice. They won't see justice criminally because

0:41:07.520 --> 0:41:10.439
<v Speaker 1>it's very difficult to prosecute these officers, and they won't

0:41:10.440 --> 0:41:13.439
<v Speaker 1>see justice civilly. But shot out to Larry Krassner, who

0:41:13.520 --> 0:41:16.960
<v Speaker 1>is the district attorney in the city of Philadelphia, who

0:41:17.000 --> 0:41:19.800
<v Speaker 1>simply said that if ICE agents come to his city

0:41:19.840 --> 0:41:22.960
<v Speaker 1>with masks on and they terrorize individuals, he is going

0:41:23.040 --> 0:41:26.400
<v Speaker 1>to prosecute those officers, those ICE agents to the fullest

0:41:26.400 --> 0:41:28.640
<v Speaker 1>extent of the law. He's going to make sure they

0:41:28.680 --> 0:41:31.800
<v Speaker 1>are and he's going to ask his city police officers

0:41:31.800 --> 0:41:34.960
<v Speaker 1>and county sheriff's deputies to arrest these ICE agents if

0:41:35.000 --> 0:41:38.480
<v Speaker 1>they violate the law in the city of Philadelphia. We

0:41:38.520 --> 0:41:40.360
<v Speaker 1>need more people on the state and local level to

0:41:40.400 --> 0:41:43.680
<v Speaker 1>take that as what Angela said, because right now, these

0:41:43.719 --> 0:41:45.840
<v Speaker 1>families that I represent, when we go out here in

0:41:45.880 --> 0:41:49.160
<v Speaker 1>courts and we spend five six weeks or five six

0:41:49.200 --> 0:41:51.840
<v Speaker 1>months excuse me, fighting for them in civil court, and

0:41:51.880 --> 0:41:55.040
<v Speaker 1>then they get a thrown out because they were shot

0:41:55.080 --> 0:41:57.080
<v Speaker 1>in the back five six times. But the officer said

0:41:57.120 --> 0:41:59.360
<v Speaker 1>he felt like his life was in danger. That is

0:41:59.400 --> 0:42:02.239
<v Speaker 1>indicative of what qualified immunity is, and I hope more

0:42:02.280 --> 0:42:03.600
<v Speaker 1>people are opening their eyes to it.

0:42:04.120 --> 0:42:07.040
<v Speaker 6>I can I just say though there is a precedent

0:42:07.120 --> 0:42:09.560
<v Speaker 6>in Minnesota. Though I'm sorry, Angela, go ahead, you go first.

0:42:09.560 --> 0:42:10.640
<v Speaker 4>No, no, no, no, no, go ahead.

0:42:13.360 --> 0:42:15.120
<v Speaker 6>It is that way, until it isn't that way, right,

0:42:15.160 --> 0:42:18.319
<v Speaker 6>because Derek Chauvin and those other three officers were in

0:42:18.440 --> 0:42:20.759
<v Speaker 6>the course of doing their duties and still wounds up

0:42:20.800 --> 0:42:23.680
<v Speaker 6>getting prosecuted. And there was a gentleman named Mohammed Noir.

0:42:23.719 --> 0:42:24.279
<v Speaker 6>I believe it's.

0:42:24.840 --> 0:42:27.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Mohammed Noir. He shot the white woman. Yeah, And

0:42:27.400 --> 0:42:29.600
<v Speaker 1>they gave the white woman twenty million dollars.

0:42:29.960 --> 0:42:32.680
<v Speaker 6>And they gave her twenty million dollars. So I would

0:42:32.760 --> 0:42:36.200
<v Speaker 6>say that the good family probably has a good case

0:42:36.239 --> 0:42:40.280
<v Speaker 6>because this officer. The other thing, JD. Vance said. He said,

0:42:40.600 --> 0:42:44.560
<v Speaker 6>this officer was traumatized by previously being dragged by a car,

0:42:44.880 --> 0:42:47.680
<v Speaker 6>meaning I'm sorry, why was he not only in the

0:42:47.719 --> 0:42:51.080
<v Speaker 6>field but also the leader of that team. This is

0:42:51.120 --> 0:42:54.200
<v Speaker 6>a guy who's been on the four since about twenty fifteen,

0:42:54.239 --> 0:42:58.399
<v Speaker 6>so he's experienced. But Jadie Vance said publicly he was traumatized,

0:42:58.400 --> 0:43:00.959
<v Speaker 6>So why was he even out there at all? Number two,

0:43:01.440 --> 0:43:05.160
<v Speaker 6>he seemed to be non fearful enough to take his

0:43:05.320 --> 0:43:09.720
<v Speaker 6>cell phone video tape the entire interaction, then switch hands,

0:43:09.920 --> 0:43:11.719
<v Speaker 6>put the phone in the other hand so he could

0:43:11.800 --> 0:43:14.479
<v Speaker 6>draw his gun and shoot her in the phase three

0:43:14.520 --> 0:43:17.919
<v Speaker 6>times and then walk away scamper off like he wasn't

0:43:17.920 --> 0:43:19.880
<v Speaker 6>injured at all and call her in f and B

0:43:20.120 --> 0:43:22.799
<v Speaker 6>on his own recording and then leak that recording to

0:43:22.840 --> 0:43:25.160
<v Speaker 6>Alpha News or right wing news outlet. He seemed to

0:43:25.160 --> 0:43:27.480
<v Speaker 6>have presence of mind that he'd done something wrong. He

0:43:27.600 --> 0:43:30.040
<v Speaker 6>leaked the recording to try to save himself. Why does

0:43:30.080 --> 0:43:32.600
<v Speaker 6>he is he raising a GoFundMe for his legal defense

0:43:32.800 --> 0:43:35.000
<v Speaker 6>if he doesn't think he's got a legal problem. So

0:43:35.080 --> 0:43:37.920
<v Speaker 6>I think there's qualified immunity that you think you have,

0:43:38.239 --> 0:43:40.080
<v Speaker 6>and then there's what you really need to face in

0:43:40.120 --> 0:43:42.560
<v Speaker 6>the law, either at the state or federal level. I

0:43:42.600 --> 0:43:44.920
<v Speaker 6>think justice is coming from mister Ross.

0:43:44.920 --> 0:43:45.160
<v Speaker 3>Events.

0:43:45.600 --> 0:43:47.480
<v Speaker 1>I pray that I'm wrong, I really do. And I've

0:43:47.480 --> 0:43:49.960
<v Speaker 1>been jaded by just going taking these families into these

0:43:49.960 --> 0:43:53.040
<v Speaker 1>courthouses and losing these cases on qualified immunity. So I

0:43:53.080 --> 0:43:55.000
<v Speaker 1>pray that I'm wrong, and I pray that the good family.

0:43:55.160 --> 0:43:57.799
<v Speaker 1>But Mohammed Nuur is a perfect example of how justice

0:43:57.840 --> 0:44:00.600
<v Speaker 1>ain't just because. Mohammed Nuur, for those who who don't know,

0:44:00.760 --> 0:44:04.920
<v Speaker 1>was a Somali American police officer, law enforcement officer, and

0:44:05.000 --> 0:44:07.880
<v Speaker 1>he shot a white woman, and mind you, it was

0:44:08.000 --> 0:44:11.520
<v Speaker 1>bad policing, but there was no true fight. He was

0:44:11.640 --> 0:44:14.920
<v Speaker 1>arrested immediately, he got sentenced to twenty years, ended up,

0:44:14.960 --> 0:44:17.560
<v Speaker 1>if I recall correctly, ended up appealing that and serving

0:44:17.600 --> 0:44:20.040
<v Speaker 1>fifty seven months. He's out of jail now if I

0:44:20.120 --> 0:44:22.799
<v Speaker 1>think I remember that right, and the family sued and

0:44:22.840 --> 0:44:26.960
<v Speaker 1>settled for twenty million dollars compared at to both of John.

0:44:27.040 --> 0:44:30.920
<v Speaker 1>His family will never see a dollar a dollar, the

0:44:30.960 --> 0:44:32.640
<v Speaker 1>both of them. John family won't see a dollar. And

0:44:32.680 --> 0:44:34.719
<v Speaker 1>he was sitting in his house eating ice cream when

0:44:34.719 --> 0:44:36.759
<v Speaker 1>a white woman busting his door and shot him dead.

0:44:36.840 --> 0:44:39.960
<v Speaker 1>So I pray that justice is just for the good family.

0:44:39.960 --> 0:44:41.680
<v Speaker 1>And it might be she's a white woman. We'll see.

0:44:42.239 --> 0:44:46.520
<v Speaker 2>I do want to just offer our condolences to her family.

0:44:46.600 --> 0:44:49.319
<v Speaker 2>This is a thirty seven year old mother of three

0:44:49.400 --> 0:44:53.400
<v Speaker 2>children who was shot and killed trying to protect your community.

0:44:53.400 --> 0:44:57.279
<v Speaker 2>As we've witnessed a lot of Minneapolis residents doing what

0:44:57.400 --> 0:44:58.800
<v Speaker 2>I think is also important.

0:44:58.840 --> 0:44:59.800
<v Speaker 4>I want to draw our attention.

0:45:00.200 --> 0:45:04.440
<v Speaker 2>There was a graphic that the Department of Homeland Security

0:45:04.800 --> 0:45:09.240
<v Speaker 2>did put up in a collaboration with the White House,

0:45:09.760 --> 0:45:14.120
<v Speaker 2>and it will have our home again if you watch,

0:45:14.239 --> 0:45:17.920
<v Speaker 2>if you go to Instagram, this song plays. But apparently

0:45:17.960 --> 0:45:22.200
<v Speaker 2>this is a neo Nazi like anthem. Now, if you

0:45:22.280 --> 0:45:24.680
<v Speaker 2>play this song, it's by God will have our Home Again.

0:45:24.760 --> 0:45:27.200
<v Speaker 2>And I just would like to remind white people everywhere

0:45:27.440 --> 0:45:30.360
<v Speaker 2>that this in fact was not your home first. It

0:45:30.480 --> 0:45:32.920
<v Speaker 2>might be now because people were welcoming of you, and

0:45:32.960 --> 0:45:36.040
<v Speaker 2>perhaps you can tap into that just a little bit.

0:45:36.400 --> 0:45:41.799
<v Speaker 2>Canada also has a page up hate Opedia and they

0:45:42.000 --> 0:45:44.759
<v Speaker 2>talk about what by God will have Our Home Again

0:45:44.920 --> 0:45:50.240
<v Speaker 2>means to a number of neo Nazi organizations, and yet

0:45:50.480 --> 0:45:54.400
<v Speaker 2>the Nazis seem to be taken over our federal government.

0:45:55.080 --> 0:45:56.239
<v Speaker 4>So that's that.

0:45:56.440 --> 0:45:58.399
<v Speaker 2>On that, I would like to just show y'all one

0:45:58.400 --> 0:46:00.240
<v Speaker 2>more thing on a slightly lighter note.

0:46:00.440 --> 0:46:02.920
<v Speaker 1>One second before we go to slightly lighter, can we

0:46:02.960 --> 0:46:04.640
<v Speaker 1>do one more thing? Because we started with her, and

0:46:04.640 --> 0:46:06.960
<v Speaker 1>I'd like to end with her, because Andrew brought up

0:46:06.960 --> 0:46:10.000
<v Speaker 1>a good point that Christy Nome, you can tell that

0:46:10.040 --> 0:46:12.640
<v Speaker 1>she's been elected a few times, you can tell that

0:46:12.760 --> 0:46:15.240
<v Speaker 1>she's served, you can tell that she's actually the consummate

0:46:15.280 --> 0:46:18.239
<v Speaker 1>politician for all the negative attributes that may mean. I

0:46:18.280 --> 0:46:20.680
<v Speaker 1>wanted to play the Christy Nome clip from Jake Tapper's

0:46:20.719 --> 0:46:24.719
<v Speaker 1>interview and how she stays on message and you can

0:46:24.760 --> 0:46:30.200
<v Speaker 1>see that's the message shit. That is what the message is.

0:46:30.880 --> 0:46:33.040
<v Speaker 1>So can we play the clip from Jake Tapper and

0:46:33.120 --> 0:46:35.600
<v Speaker 1>Christy Nome this weekend, just a little snippet of it.

0:46:36.440 --> 0:46:38.040
<v Speaker 13>I want to ask a question about the rules of

0:46:38.080 --> 0:46:41.560
<v Speaker 13>how law enforcement is allowed to engage when feeling threatened.

0:46:41.560 --> 0:46:44.279
<v Speaker 13>Per your assertions, what is the appropriate response for the

0:46:44.280 --> 0:46:46.280
<v Speaker 13>police officers in this situation?

0:46:49.160 --> 0:46:49.840
<v Speaker 3>Those are law.

0:46:49.760 --> 0:46:54.440
<v Speaker 13>Enforcement officers being physically attacked. By this standard, would any

0:46:54.480 --> 0:46:57.680
<v Speaker 13>of those officers being justified and shooting and killing the

0:46:57.719 --> 0:46:59.480
<v Speaker 13>people causing them physical harm?

0:47:00.000 --> 0:47:03.760
<v Speaker 14>A single situation is going to rely on the situation

0:47:03.840 --> 0:47:06.080
<v Speaker 14>those officers are on. That they know that when people

0:47:06.120 --> 0:47:09.080
<v Speaker 14>are putting hands on them, when they are using weapons

0:47:09.160 --> 0:47:12.279
<v Speaker 14>against them, when they are physically harming them, that they

0:47:12.320 --> 0:47:14.360
<v Speaker 14>have the authority to arrest those individuals.

0:47:14.560 --> 0:47:17.240
<v Speaker 13>President every single one of those peoples.

0:47:17.320 --> 0:47:20.400
<v Speaker 14>And make sure that they're getting justice for their actions

0:47:20.440 --> 0:47:21.000
<v Speaker 14>going forward.

0:47:21.080 --> 0:47:23.400
<v Speaker 13>President Trump partoned every single one of those every.

0:47:23.200 --> 0:47:26.560
<v Speaker 14>Single one of these investigations comes in the full context

0:47:26.600 --> 0:47:29.080
<v Speaker 14>of the situation on the ground. And that's one thing

0:47:29.120 --> 0:47:32.000
<v Speaker 14>that President Trump has been so focused on is making

0:47:32.040 --> 0:47:33.719
<v Speaker 14>sure that when we're out there, we don't pick and

0:47:33.800 --> 0:47:37.759
<v Speaker 14>choose which situations are and which laws are enforced and

0:47:37.800 --> 0:47:40.759
<v Speaker 14>which ones aren't. Every single one of them is being

0:47:40.840 --> 0:47:42.480
<v Speaker 14>enforced under the Trump administration.

0:47:42.840 --> 0:47:47.320
<v Speaker 13>I just showed you video of people attacking law enforcement officers,

0:47:48.840 --> 0:47:51.120
<v Speaker 13>and I just said President Trump pardoned all of them.

0:47:51.600 --> 0:47:54.040
<v Speaker 13>And you said that President Trump is enforcing all the

0:47:54.120 --> 0:47:57.960
<v Speaker 13>laws equally. It's just not true. There's a different standard

0:47:57.960 --> 0:48:01.480
<v Speaker 13>for law enforcement officials being act if they're being attacked

0:48:01.480 --> 0:48:02.320
<v Speaker 13>by Trump supporters.

0:48:02.360 --> 0:48:03.080
<v Speaker 1>We just saw them.

0:48:03.760 --> 0:48:07.640
<v Speaker 7>There's no difference in standard. The issue is man. She

0:48:07.800 --> 0:48:11.680
<v Speaker 7>just crystallized the phrase that I've heard so often. You

0:48:11.719 --> 0:48:13.760
<v Speaker 7>can tell a person's lying because their mouth is moving,

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<v Speaker 7>like I've heard that a lot before, and I understood

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<v Speaker 7>the context of it, but it's never been more true.

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<v Speaker 7>This is a woman who, without any situation or awareness

0:48:24.760 --> 0:48:29.080
<v Speaker 7>analysis debriefing, got up and called this woman a domestic

0:48:29.239 --> 0:48:33.680
<v Speaker 7>terror terrorist and carried on around a scenario that she

0:48:33.719 --> 0:48:36.440
<v Speaker 7>clearly did not observe herself, because she made it up

0:48:36.480 --> 0:48:41.600
<v Speaker 7>in her head as she was talking. She is dangerous.

0:48:43.000 --> 0:48:45.120
<v Speaker 7>I made jokes about her in the Centerfold and how

0:48:45.160 --> 0:48:48.920
<v Speaker 7>she comes into character, you know, at every different press

0:48:48.960 --> 0:48:51.239
<v Speaker 7>conference and so on and so forth. But she's a

0:48:51.400 --> 0:48:58.799
<v Speaker 7>very very dangerous person because ignorance is not a it's

0:48:58.920 --> 0:49:04.440
<v Speaker 7>not a negative. Is it doesn't subtract from her her ignorance.

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<v Speaker 7>She is what my English teacher in high school used

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<v Speaker 7>to call vain glorious in it, it's to be vain

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<v Speaker 7>and to bask while while being so vain, right, so

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<v Speaker 7>so Bakari on steroids, right, vain glorious, to be vain one,

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<v Speaker 7>But I had to hit you.

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<v Speaker 1>But but if you.

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<v Speaker 7>Swag it fan, you know at our response, y'all have it.

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<v Speaker 7>But all I'm saying is that for someone to be

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<v Speaker 7>so uninformed, so ignorant, but so willfully ignorant, and I'll

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<v Speaker 7>here commanding the size of employment, employment that she commands

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<v Speaker 7>more than majority of militaries in the world, and to

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<v Speaker 7>be so goddamn dumb and happy as dumb is incredible

0:49:54.320 --> 0:49:55.840
<v Speaker 7>and extremely dangerous.

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<v Speaker 1>It also shows you the level of mediocrity can just

0:50:00.800 --> 0:50:03.839
<v Speaker 1>white media came in on to. I mean, I try

0:50:03.880 --> 0:50:07.359
<v Speaker 1>to use that with with Barack Obama and Donald Trump. Right,

0:50:07.680 --> 0:50:10.160
<v Speaker 1>you think about Barack Obama had to be he was

0:50:10.320 --> 0:50:12.200
<v Speaker 1>editor in chief of the Law Review. And let me

0:50:12.280 --> 0:50:14.600
<v Speaker 1>just tell you that you got to be you were

0:50:14.640 --> 0:50:19.880
<v Speaker 1>you editor in chief because I know.

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<v Speaker 15>One of us names together, but you have to be

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<v Speaker 15>the top tink anybody sintilla all the way up there

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<v Speaker 15>to be president of the United States.

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<v Speaker 1>And Donald Trump's able to fall into that. Look at

0:50:33.160 --> 0:50:36.360
<v Speaker 1>look at Secretary of Austin for example, and everything that

0:50:36.440 --> 0:50:38.640
<v Speaker 1>he had to do, and all of his accomplishments in

0:50:38.680 --> 0:50:42.839
<v Speaker 1>the military and honorable accomplishments, and Pete Hesketh. I mean,

0:50:43.000 --> 0:50:45.640
<v Speaker 1>you just look at at Jay Johnson.

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<v Speaker 7>And then all of the criteria for nearly every one

0:50:51.239 --> 0:50:52.960
<v Speaker 7>of them.

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<v Speaker 1>She shot her dog. She shot her own dog, okay.

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<v Speaker 6>And she was barred from the indigenous tribes in her

0:50:59.040 --> 0:51:01.200
<v Speaker 6>own state when she was a Sorry, go ahead, angel.

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<v Speaker 1>Go ahead, you guys.

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate this deep dive on CHRISTINOAM and Barack Obama

0:51:06.360 --> 0:51:09.239
<v Speaker 2>and Donald Trump, but I have something really important. Let

0:51:09.280 --> 0:51:12.719
<v Speaker 2>me tell you what happens when White Ice comes up

0:51:12.800 --> 0:51:13.800
<v Speaker 2>against Black Ice.

0:51:14.080 --> 0:51:30.320
<v Speaker 4>Let's please rolle this clip.

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<v Speaker 7>On the guy.

0:51:24.760 --> 0:51:25.360
<v Speaker 6>I can do it.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't see this in the full clip. We cut

0:51:29.400 --> 0:51:32.520
<v Speaker 2>it pretty quickly. But he's he's running towards somebody who

0:51:32.600 --> 0:51:37.560
<v Speaker 2>is escalating the situation. And then the Ice agent comes

0:51:37.560 --> 0:51:38.600
<v Speaker 2>across Black Ice.

0:51:38.640 --> 0:51:41.040
<v Speaker 4>He still he running full speed on that Black.

0:51:40.840 --> 0:51:44.520
<v Speaker 2>Ice bus is behind, gets up and does the onet eighty.

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<v Speaker 2>He gets he gets sent right back to the black

0:51:47.200 --> 0:51:50.480
<v Speaker 2>SUVD eight and spent all your taxpair dollars on. But

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<v Speaker 2>I just love the fact that he thought he was

0:51:53.120 --> 0:51:55.919
<v Speaker 2>gonna run up on somebody and that black ice run

0:51:56.000 --> 0:51:56.719
<v Speaker 2>up on his ead.

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<v Speaker 4>I loved it.

0:51:57.719 --> 0:51:59.759
<v Speaker 6>And this is why we give to the church. But

0:51:59.800 --> 0:52:04.080
<v Speaker 6>when they wear it, Christian Lupata.

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<v Speaker 4>The doors of the church are now open. So is off.

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<v Speaker 7>Bless you when you least expected.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't want you to know that hurt. That hurt

0:52:10.280 --> 0:52:13.560
<v Speaker 1>because he got it like it didn't hurt.

0:52:12.840 --> 0:52:17.000
<v Speaker 2>He pure adrenaline and humiliation. But he let me tell you,

0:52:17.280 --> 0:52:19.120
<v Speaker 2>I love Nick. Can you run it one more time?

0:52:20.520 --> 0:52:21.359
<v Speaker 2>Just start one more time?

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<v Speaker 4>But a couple of seconds.

0:52:22.880 --> 0:52:25.319
<v Speaker 2>You know they've been please, you know, hurting each other

0:52:25.400 --> 0:52:27.520
<v Speaker 2>and hitting each other, doing all kind of put downs

0:52:27.520 --> 0:52:29.520
<v Speaker 2>on the show Nick of maybe Nick won't.

0:52:29.320 --> 0:52:29.799
<v Speaker 4>Run it again.

0:52:29.880 --> 0:52:33.960
<v Speaker 2>There it goes, here goes one more time, you kind

0:52:33.960 --> 0:52:34.400
<v Speaker 2>of here go.

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<v Speaker 4>We need to put that in slow motion.

0:52:37.920 --> 0:52:41.759
<v Speaker 2>Isn't there a closer up version, a closer up version.

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<v Speaker 1>Calling them all types of names? My version is came't

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<v Speaker 1>here to get us unrated.

0:52:47.120 --> 0:52:53.680
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you guys cuss on here.

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<v Speaker 7>They deserve come uppings come up much worse, right, I

0:52:57.360 --> 0:53:00.400
<v Speaker 7>mean the accountability that has to be had for this

0:53:00.440 --> 0:53:04.120
<v Speaker 7>out of control a component of our government. I mean

0:53:04.320 --> 0:53:07.640
<v Speaker 7>the laundry lists for if Democrats are fortunate to gain

0:53:07.719 --> 0:53:11.279
<v Speaker 7>power again, the laundry list of the stuff they must

0:53:11.320 --> 0:53:17.080
<v Speaker 7>the wheels they must break. Listen, I stay, I stay,

0:53:17.600 --> 0:53:23.400
<v Speaker 7>consciously under expectant of anything.

0:53:23.520 --> 0:53:25.440
<v Speaker 1>We got a little bit of time on this, on

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<v Speaker 1>this segment before we don't.

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<v Speaker 4>We don't, we don't. We got to do cause to action,

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<v Speaker 4>and I and.

0:53:29.840 --> 0:53:32.600
<v Speaker 1>I got our action ain't gonna take ten minutes, I know,

0:53:32.640 --> 0:53:33.560
<v Speaker 1>but we also have.

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<v Speaker 7>My call to action is that, yes, there's a lot

0:53:37.640 --> 0:53:42.160
<v Speaker 7>of misery out there, but there are also some rays

0:53:42.160 --> 0:53:45.880
<v Speaker 7>of hope when we see white men and white women

0:53:46.320 --> 0:53:50.839
<v Speaker 7>and brown skin and black folks standing up in Chicago

0:53:51.520 --> 0:53:56.200
<v Speaker 7>and in New York, and in Pennsylvania and in Oregon

0:53:56.719 --> 0:54:01.399
<v Speaker 7>and in Washington State and in Minnesota. People who ain't

0:54:01.440 --> 0:54:03.319
<v Speaker 7>never been to a protest in their life, who went

0:54:03.400 --> 0:54:06.160
<v Speaker 7>on camera, who gave interviews saying they did test protests

0:54:06.160 --> 0:54:09.239
<v Speaker 7>and thought it was a useful, wasteful bit of time

0:54:09.320 --> 0:54:11.480
<v Speaker 7>for people who did it, said they didn't know what

0:54:11.560 --> 0:54:14.799
<v Speaker 7>else to do to show their outrage and discuss the

0:54:14.920 --> 0:54:17.520
<v Speaker 7>disappointment in the country that they thought they had.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 7>I ain't asked them who they voted for for president,

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<v Speaker 7>but all this stuff comes full circle their consequences for

0:54:24.200 --> 0:54:27.440
<v Speaker 7>this thing, and it just really sucks that the people

0:54:27.440 --> 0:54:29.319
<v Speaker 7>who voted for the man can't be the ones who

0:54:29.440 --> 0:54:34.640
<v Speaker 7>experiences consequences. I ain't vote for him, right, but we

0:54:34.760 --> 0:54:37.080
<v Speaker 7>all have to experience those consequences. But I'm thankful to

0:54:37.120 --> 0:54:39.480
<v Speaker 7>the people who are showing up, who are shouting these

0:54:39.520 --> 0:54:43.960
<v Speaker 7>people down, who are shrouding people who are being harassed,

0:54:44.680 --> 0:54:49.360
<v Speaker 7>and hugs and circles with hands held to keep them safe.

0:54:50.320 --> 0:54:53.080
<v Speaker 7>There have been huge outpourings of this all around the country,

0:54:53.080 --> 0:54:56.200
<v Speaker 7>and I don't think we'd give it enough appreciation for

0:54:56.239 --> 0:54:58.080
<v Speaker 7>those who are showing up and doing it. The people

0:54:58.160 --> 0:55:02.640
<v Speaker 7>are went in.

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<v Speaker 4>A native Land pod.

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<v Speaker 2>Nobody knows well we have a viewers share someone who

0:57:11.600 --> 0:57:15.600
<v Speaker 2>is near and dear to this show. Garland Gilchrist sent

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<v Speaker 2>a video in off of his latest news, So let's

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<v Speaker 2>go ahead and take a.

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<v Speaker 17>Lot a Native Lampard family, Lieutenant Governor Garland gil Chris

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<v Speaker 17>and Michigan.

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<v Speaker 3>Happy New Year, y'all.

0:57:27.280 --> 0:57:31.440
<v Speaker 17>Tiff Andrew baccari I continue to respect and appreciate what

0:57:31.520 --> 0:57:34.640
<v Speaker 17>y'all building by. Angela reached out to me because she

0:57:34.720 --> 0:57:37.040
<v Speaker 17>wanted to understand what was going on because I made

0:57:37.040 --> 0:57:39.200
<v Speaker 17>some news this week. You know, I made the decision

0:57:39.680 --> 0:57:42.320
<v Speaker 17>to suspend my campaign and be the next governor of Michigan.

0:57:42.760 --> 0:57:43.880
<v Speaker 3>But I'm not leaving the fight.

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<v Speaker 17>There's so much important work that has to be done,

0:57:47.040 --> 0:57:49.920
<v Speaker 17>not only in Michigan but in America, yo. And that's

0:57:49.960 --> 0:57:52.840
<v Speaker 17>why on Monday I now said I'm gonna be running

0:57:52.840 --> 0:57:55.520
<v Speaker 17>for Secretary of State of Michigan to open the doorway

0:57:55.640 --> 0:57:56.560
<v Speaker 17>to democracy.

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<v Speaker 3>Why for the people in the state that matters, yo.

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<v Speaker 17>That comes from the conversations that I have all over

0:58:02.800 --> 0:58:04.920
<v Speaker 17>Michigan this year and for the last seven years that

0:58:04.960 --> 0:58:08.680
<v Speaker 17>I've been in service, people screaming about how expensive everything is,

0:58:09.040 --> 0:58:11.760
<v Speaker 17>but also saying that, you know what, if we can't

0:58:11.840 --> 0:58:13.960
<v Speaker 17>vote and trust it, if we can't vote and make

0:58:14.000 --> 0:58:18.120
<v Speaker 17>that vote count, if Donald Trump destroys this democracy and

0:58:18.200 --> 0:58:20.600
<v Speaker 17>voting process, then we can't vote in people to hold

0:58:20.600 --> 0:58:23.280
<v Speaker 17>these corporations accountable. We can't vote in people to protect

0:58:23.320 --> 0:58:25.560
<v Speaker 17>our environment. We can't vote in people to get the

0:58:25.600 --> 0:58:28.439
<v Speaker 17>money out of politics. And you know what, the first

0:58:28.480 --> 0:58:30.160
<v Speaker 17>time I ran for office. I ran to being a

0:58:30.240 --> 0:58:33.080
<v Speaker 17>lession administrator in twenty seventeen. That's something that's near and

0:58:33.120 --> 0:58:35.800
<v Speaker 17>deer to my heart. I'm worried about the challenge for

0:58:35.840 --> 0:58:37.640
<v Speaker 17>the voting right sack that could come down in any

0:58:37.680 --> 0:58:40.160
<v Speaker 17>minute and be the final knife in the heart of

0:58:40.200 --> 0:58:43.240
<v Speaker 17>that important legislation that gave my grandparents, my parents, and

0:58:43.280 --> 0:58:44.280
<v Speaker 17>me the right to vote.

0:58:44.480 --> 0:58:45.800
<v Speaker 3>We got to protect and defend that.

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<v Speaker 17>So I'm using every skill I have as an engineer,

0:58:49.000 --> 0:58:51.919
<v Speaker 17>an entrepreneur, a problem solver, as systems builder that makes

0:58:51.920 --> 0:58:54.720
<v Speaker 17>things work for people to apply that to the democratic

0:58:54.760 --> 0:58:57.040
<v Speaker 17>process here in Michigan. And I think if we get

0:58:57.040 --> 0:58:58.840
<v Speaker 17>to write in Michigan will get it right everywhere. So

0:58:59.120 --> 0:59:01.880
<v Speaker 17>appreciate y'all always looking out for me. We got work

0:59:01.920 --> 0:59:03.720
<v Speaker 17>to do, and I'm asking people to go to Garland

0:59:03.720 --> 0:59:06.280
<v Speaker 17>coqurs dot com and support me to be Michigan's next

0:59:06.280 --> 0:59:07.120
<v Speaker 17>Secretary of State.

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<v Speaker 3>My eyes are still on the prize.

0:59:08.960 --> 0:59:10.880
<v Speaker 17>I want to be the governor one day, but let's

0:59:10.880 --> 0:59:12.480
<v Speaker 17>be secretary of state in twenty twenty six.

0:59:12.640 --> 0:59:13.720
<v Speaker 3>Thanks y'all stands hall.

0:59:14.440 --> 0:59:19.320
<v Speaker 1>I love Garland, but I you know, elected officials in

0:59:19.320 --> 0:59:21.840
<v Speaker 1>self awareness is keen. I don't know anybody who said,

0:59:22.000 --> 0:59:23.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm going to be governor and then like

0:59:23.720 --> 0:59:25.400
<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, oh, I want to go protect

0:59:25.640 --> 0:59:28.600
<v Speaker 1>election integrity. I want to know what I want to know,

0:59:29.320 --> 0:59:31.000
<v Speaker 1>Like if you could be governor, you be governor. I

0:59:31.040 --> 0:59:34.120
<v Speaker 1>mean I understand. I'm as we hang up and figure

0:59:34.120 --> 0:59:36.440
<v Speaker 1>out what's going on, I want to tol you.

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<v Speaker 7>That's where his heart toward public service began was in

0:59:40.040 --> 0:59:42.560
<v Speaker 7>making sure people had access to the ballot box. I

0:59:42.560 --> 0:59:46.880
<v Speaker 7>have always found Garland to be one genuine but suspect

0:59:47.160 --> 0:59:52.400
<v Speaker 7>for him all around and also always always striving, whether

0:59:52.440 --> 0:59:56.360
<v Speaker 7>it's in conflict or in you know, in solidarity and peace.

0:59:56.600 --> 0:59:59.760
<v Speaker 7>The brother goes the extra model to try to understand.

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<v Speaker 1>The whatever that is.

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<v Speaker 7>And most politicians I know keep it moving. They can

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<v Speaker 7>give you a good job.

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<v Speaker 3>I love, but.

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<v Speaker 2>You got you guys, If you can allow joy to

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<v Speaker 2>say something before we bring on our guests, that would

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<v Speaker 2>be great. It's a lot of back. It was supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to be quick, friends. Let's go, Joey, what you got

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<v Speaker 2>real quick? I'll be real quick. God bless anybody who

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<v Speaker 2>stands for public service. And I just hope if you're

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<v Speaker 2>getting in it, you're getting in it. To actually do

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<v Speaker 2>something serious and not just talk. We got to do

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<v Speaker 2>something about these people, not just talk about them.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right.

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<v Speaker 2>I just would like to remind Garland Gill Chris that

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<v Speaker 2>on this here show when uh governor almost called her Whitfield,

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<v Speaker 2>that's not her name, Governor Whitmer, Jesus, I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm struggling. When Governor whit Whitmer came on here, we

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<v Speaker 2>lit her up about why she didn't endorse you, and

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<v Speaker 2>now we got to ask her about secretary of State.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm in my feelings, in my feelings about it,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know, we wish you the best and whatever

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<v Speaker 2>you do, Garland. And obviously elections need to be protected

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<v Speaker 2>because your president is out here snatching congressional districts, voter

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<v Speaker 2>id early voting usps, postmarks and all the rest.

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<v Speaker 4>So with that, his.

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<v Speaker 7>Biggest regret was not seizing the voting machines, and that's

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<v Speaker 7>what he said.

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<v Speaker 6>And what the paramilitary force. Now, that's right.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And with that, Bakari, we have somebody specially I

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<v Speaker 4>know you want to bring on. Let's go ahead and

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<v Speaker 4>do that.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I'm gonna let you in she part of your care.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna let you, and I'm gonna let you and

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<v Speaker 1>I enjoy handle that introduction.

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<v Speaker 4>She's part of all of our crew.

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<v Speaker 1>She is part of our crew. But but she is

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<v Speaker 1>she a machete. I don't know, I don't know know,

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<v Speaker 1>but she's she.

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<v Speaker 2>We love her nonetheless, the creator, the creator of the

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<v Speaker 2>very important historic award winning sixteen nineteen project, A sister

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<v Speaker 2>who fights for us when we see it and when

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<v Speaker 2>we don't. This is none other than Nicole Hannah Jones,

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<v Speaker 2>who's joining us day to talk about Trump's attack on

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<v Speaker 2>civil rights because Donald Trump and we should put that

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<v Speaker 2>headline up, has said that civil rights were very bad

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<v Speaker 2>for the whites, and I'm sure Nicole Hannah Jones has

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<v Speaker 2>some things to say about this. They were very badly

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<v Speaker 2>treated as a result of civil rights. Nicole said, surprise,

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<v Speaker 2>not surprised, y'all you should have been paying attention.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey says how you doing?

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<v Speaker 18>Hey, Hey, how are y'all good?

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome home, welcome.

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<v Speaker 18>Home, thank you.

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<v Speaker 19>I'm just gonna say that that felt like some subtle

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<v Speaker 19>shade Bakari. But andrews, thank you for welcome.

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<v Speaker 4>I got Nicole.

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<v Speaker 1>He literally.

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<v Speaker 4>It's never said.

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<v Speaker 2>When he joined the show, he said that we needed

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<v Speaker 2>a Beyonce and there's a Farah in here somewhere. On

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<v Speaker 2>tips last day, he told her that she was Fairris.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you know.

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<v Speaker 7>He loves.

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<v Speaker 1>I love y'all, law I love you. I love y'all.

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<v Speaker 7>Law.

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<v Speaker 1>I do want to hear your take, though, because I

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<v Speaker 1>know that I know that there is this sentiment that

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<v Speaker 1>we we I think the five of us can honestly

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<v Speaker 1>say we told y'all this was going to be the case.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean we You know, if it walks like a

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<v Speaker 1>racist and quacks like a racist, it probably is a racist.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, back in the day on seeing it,

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<v Speaker 1>and I got in trouble for saying that Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 1>uses racism as political currency. I didn't even call him a.

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<v Speaker 4>Racists and got in trouble me too.

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<v Speaker 7>You should have said the racist think he's a racist.

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<v Speaker 1>Debaters, tell me, tell me what's your analysis of this

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<v Speaker 1>new uh new truth telling that Donald Trump is doing well.

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<v Speaker 19>Donald Trump is not doing new truth telling, but all

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<v Speaker 19>of a sudden people are recognizing and taking him at

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<v Speaker 19>his word for what he's saying.

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<v Speaker 18>I mean.

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<v Speaker 19>What I've read this a couple of times now where

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<v Speaker 19>people are saying, oh that the Wokes were they were right.

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<v Speaker 19>They were just prematurely right, which is an insane thing

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<v Speaker 19>to say. Right, is that, you know, even though we

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<v Speaker 19>were trying to warn people that this is who Donald

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<v Speaker 19>Trump was, this is this is where the Republican Party

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<v Speaker 19>was going, that his election was not about economic anxiety

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<v Speaker 19>but demographic anxiety. We were dismissed, often by our own colleagues,

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<v Speaker 19>by the people who were moderate, and also frankly by

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<v Speaker 19>people who have not spent any serious time studying the

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<v Speaker 19>history of this country, in the history of race in

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<v Speaker 19>this country, and those of us who have studied it. Right,

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<v Speaker 19>we're not just basing this off of our lived experience,

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<v Speaker 19>like we researched this, we have gained an expertise. We

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<v Speaker 19>were dismissed by people who were just going on vibes, right,

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<v Speaker 19>like white vibes. So it doesn't it doesn't feel good

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<v Speaker 19>to be right. We're in a terrible place in this country.

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<v Speaker 19>But I do want some acknowledgement that folks tried to

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<v Speaker 19>tell you. We wrote about it, we talked about it,

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<v Speaker 19>we lectured about it. When we were cast off as biased,

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<v Speaker 19>as hyperbolic, as hysterical. So the other days, you know,

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<v Speaker 19>I posted a piece I wrote literally a decade ago

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<v Speaker 19>when Donald Trump was elected the first time, and we

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<v Speaker 19>were told that because some white voters had voted for

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<v Speaker 19>Obama that it couldn't have had anything to do with race.

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<v Speaker 19>And once again we're like, you don't know your country.

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<v Speaker 19>You're reporting on your country, you're trying to help people

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<v Speaker 19>understand their country when you don't understand it yourself. So

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<v Speaker 19>how I feel is, I don't even want to say

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<v Speaker 19>I felt vindicated because we knew we were right. We

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<v Speaker 19>knew we were right because they know what we were

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<v Speaker 19>saying on our understanding of actually having studied and gained

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<v Speaker 19>it for Tea's in the country.

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<v Speaker 7>Professor, I'm sorry I had to have interrupted. I just

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<v Speaker 7>didn't they know too. I mean, this is not a revelation.

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<v Speaker 7>It can't be a revelation for anybody, including white folk,

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<v Speaker 7>that there were things they were willing to walk past

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<v Speaker 7>and sake of a thing greater that they wanted. You know,

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<v Speaker 7>clearly it wasn't going to be to their detriment. They

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<v Speaker 7>had determined that in their own mind's eye, right that Okay, well,

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<v Speaker 7>it ain't the thing that I'm going out and saying

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<v Speaker 7>at work tomorrow. But if he want to do it,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, let it be and I'll hold my nose,

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<v Speaker 7>is what I'm telling my friends, because he's not so

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<v Speaker 7>toxic as Hillary Clinton or whatever the thing was they

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<v Speaker 7>were saying about her. Just to me, it doesn't seem

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<v Speaker 7>like this is a moment where we're like, we told

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<v Speaker 7>you so it is. We told you, then we're telling

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<v Speaker 7>you again. Now y'all heard us, and you knew it.

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<v Speaker 7>Then you've just walked past it.

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<v Speaker 19>I think it's some of both. Certainly, there's a large

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<v Speaker 19>perhaps most of white Americans, a large percentage, maybe even

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<v Speaker 19>more than half, who knew exactly who Donald Trump was,

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<v Speaker 19>and he was speaking to them. And in that piece

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<v Speaker 19>I wrote ten years ago, I talked to some of them.

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<v Speaker 19>You know, they're like, oh, it was liberating. This is

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<v Speaker 19>what we've always felt. We felt like, you know, Obama

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<v Speaker 19>in the White House was supposed to make it so

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<v Speaker 19>we never had to talk about race again. And you're

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<v Speaker 19>complaining about Trayvon Martin and there's a black man in

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<v Speaker 19>the White House.

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<v Speaker 18>We don't want to hear about it anymore.

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<v Speaker 19>And here comes Trump and he's saying all the things

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<v Speaker 19>that we now because of the civil rights movement, because

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<v Speaker 19>of efforts to pretend we were a more racially egalitarian society.

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<v Speaker 19>It was no longer acceptable to say these things in

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<v Speaker 19>civil society, and then Trump was saying them. So there

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<v Speaker 19>is a large population that felt liberated by that. But

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<v Speaker 19>I also think there's a significant population that, frankly was

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<v Speaker 19>in denial that unless he was out there saying the

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<v Speaker 19>N word every single day, they wanted to pretend that

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<v Speaker 19>not only was he not racist, but that you know,

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<v Speaker 19>he's just a buffoon when he says he wants to

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<v Speaker 19>run again in twenty twenty eight, he's just joking. He's

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<v Speaker 19>not to be taken seriously. Or they also were in

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<v Speaker 19>denial about how many folks were willing, like who didn't

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<v Speaker 19>actually believe in democracy in the first place. I think

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<v Speaker 19>they actually thought all of these old guards believed in democracy.

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<v Speaker 19>They drank that kool aid, and when we were saying, no,

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<v Speaker 19>this is actually going to be attack on democracy, I

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<v Speaker 19>don't think a lot of people took it seriously.

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<v Speaker 18>I don't think they believed it.

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<v Speaker 19>So I think what we have is this convergence of

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<v Speaker 19>both of those things. And now you have folks, I mean,

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<v Speaker 19>Joe Rogan who's like, oh, we don't want to like

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<v Speaker 19>really now you're worried about a gestapo that you helped

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<v Speaker 19>Usher in. So I think you know you said something important, Andrew.

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<v Speaker 19>Folks were willing to accept other people's destructions.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right.

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<v Speaker 19>They believed wholeheartedly that their whiteness would mean they would

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<v Speaker 19>not also face destruction. And now they're waking up to

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<v Speaker 19>the reality of what we were trying to say all

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<v Speaker 19>the time. It's frankly, you cannot have this much inequality

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<v Speaker 19>and maintain your democracy.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me ask a question because I want to help

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<v Speaker 1>talk to each other.

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<v Speaker 3>That's it.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to bring joy and you in this conversation

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<v Speaker 1>because for me and I think Andrew probably has a

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<v Speaker 1>similar feeling, maybe you know, being elected before running trying

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<v Speaker 1>to trying to persuade voters, no matter what they look like,

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<v Speaker 1>where they come from. You kind of walk into politics

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<v Speaker 1>with this naivete that you're going to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>convince people to vote for you, you know, because you

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<v Speaker 1>all have the same issues, right, no matter if you're

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<v Speaker 1>white or black, have a Confederate flag, you want to

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<v Speaker 1>believe that you want your mama to have access to

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<v Speaker 1>prescription drugs like you don't want to have to struggle

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<v Speaker 1>and when you see people like Joe Rogan, and I

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<v Speaker 1>want to toss to that clip right now. But when

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<v Speaker 1>you see people like Joe Rogan have these moments of truth,

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<v Speaker 1>Joy Nicole, how do we process that? How do we

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<v Speaker 1>accept them? Do we accept them? Do we discount them?

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<v Speaker 1>Do we disregard them? Do we say I told you so?

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<v Speaker 1>What do we do with the Joe Rogans, who's, by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, speak for millions of people, unfortunately or fortunately

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<v Speaker 1>and even more importantly, millions of voters that are going

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<v Speaker 1>to be important in twenty twenty six and twenty twenty eight.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's talk to the clipping on the other side.

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<v Speaker 1>If Professor and if joy of y'all can can respond

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<v Speaker 1>to that, I'd appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 20>You don't want militarized people in the streets just roaming

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<v Speaker 20>around snatching people up, many of which turn out to

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<v Speaker 20>actually be US citizens that just don't have their papers

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<v Speaker 20>on them. Are we really going to be the the Gestapo?

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<v Speaker 20>Where's your papers? Is that what we've come to is

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<v Speaker 20>that part.

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<v Speaker 7>Of the reckless, the way in which they've done it,

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<v Speaker 7>had they all been brown and not white women and

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<v Speaker 7>all these others.

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<v Speaker 1>Do even is that question even? Is that question even

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<v Speaker 1>relevant with people who are having these come to Jesus Joy.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, Jesus only because they see themselves reflected.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, look, I'm gonna watch what they do, not what

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<v Speaker 6>they say. Person. My guess is the next election ballot

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<v Speaker 6>comes in front of Joe Rogan, he votes exactly the

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<v Speaker 6>same way if Donald Trump was on the ballot again,

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<v Speaker 6>he votes exactly the same way. People like Joe Rogan

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<v Speaker 6>that just asking questions. Guy, he's and he does speak

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<v Speaker 6>for lots and lots of unintelligent, uneducated white men who

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<v Speaker 6>are angry about literally what Donald Trump said. Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 6>is very transparent. They are mad about the civil rights movement.

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<v Speaker 6>They do feel that voting rights and civil rights for

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<v Speaker 6>black people took away their rights as white men to

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<v Speaker 6>be mediocre and successful, to get into college even if

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<v Speaker 6>they didn't deserve it, to get jobs they didn't deserve.

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<v Speaker 6>And they're putting that back in place now. Notice the

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<v Speaker 6>men and women they hire who are white are underqualified,

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<v Speaker 6>and that's by design. They want back the world in

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<v Speaker 6>which being mediocre and white means that there's no barrier

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<v Speaker 6>to your success. And they're pissed off that excellent non

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<v Speaker 6>white people have gotten to rise but I will say

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<v Speaker 6>that the Joe Rogan revelations are because they didn't expect

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<v Speaker 6>to have to watch it. The reason that I b

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<v Speaker 6>Well's was so powerful, the reason that Emmett tells mom

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<v Speaker 6>what she did was so powerful is white people want

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<v Speaker 6>to have privilege and they want to have non white

1:12:16.360 --> 1:12:18.600
<v Speaker 6>people get hurt, but they don't want to have to

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<v Speaker 6>have to watch it. They don't want to have to

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<v Speaker 6>have their souls implicated in it. And so because they're

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<v Speaker 6>now watching their gardener's bridge, they're right. They don't want

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<v Speaker 6>to watch John Lewis get beat. They just wanted to

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<v Speaker 6>get beat without them having to see it and having

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<v Speaker 6>to be accountable for it. And I think the accountability

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<v Speaker 6>of the fact that this administration wants to broadcast the cruelty.

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<v Speaker 6>They want to make it into like a cops show.

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<v Speaker 6>So they're making everybody watch it. It's all over social media,

1:12:45.479 --> 1:12:48.600
<v Speaker 6>they're posting it on social media, and so people like

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<v Speaker 6>Joe Rogan are going like, wait a minute, I didn't

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<v Speaker 6>know they were going to go and home depot and

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<v Speaker 6>get the guy who's going to fix my house. I

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<v Speaker 6>didn't know they were going to go get the you know,

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<v Speaker 6>the guy that I'm buying our repus from on the

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<v Speaker 6>side of the road. Hang on a second, I can't

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<v Speaker 6>get food at my restaurant because all the workers won't

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<v Speaker 6>show up. Who's going to serve me my beer? Who's

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<v Speaker 6>going to serve me my food? So now they're realizing, oh,

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<v Speaker 6>this does impact me, And so I'm interested to watch

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<v Speaker 6>them come to this revelation that they should have been

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<v Speaker 6>able to figure out by us just literally telling them.

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<v Speaker 6>But I'm more interested in what do they do with

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<v Speaker 6>that information, And I'm very dubious that most of them

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<v Speaker 6>are going to do something different. I do think there's

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<v Speaker 6>a percentage of them. Forty percent of white folks have

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<v Speaker 6>always voted with us for a long time, since since

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<v Speaker 6>the sixties. So I think those forty are going to

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<v Speaker 6>get stronger. Those forty are going to get louder. Those

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<v Speaker 6>forty are going to get more outraged that white women

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<v Speaker 6>are getting shot in the face now that they're now

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<v Speaker 6>on the table. But those forty are who we need

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<v Speaker 6>to focus on. The sixty gotta come to Jesus on

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<v Speaker 6>their own. I'm not about recruiting them because they are

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<v Speaker 6>usually unchangeable, Madam Professor, So you.

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<v Speaker 19>Know, I I mostly agree with what Joy said. One

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<v Speaker 19>thing that we always have to just confront is the

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<v Speaker 19>truth of the fact that we're thirty teen percent of

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<v Speaker 19>the population, and so we have to build coalition. So

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<v Speaker 19>we can sit here and wag our fingers and be

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<v Speaker 19>like we were right, welcome to the America we've always

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<v Speaker 19>lived in, or we can figure out, okay, well, welcome

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<v Speaker 19>to the America we've always lived in. Now how do

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<v Speaker 19>we actually move forward and try to build a sustainable coalition.

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<v Speaker 19>But I also agree that that coalition cannot be predicated

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<v Speaker 19>on us having to pretend we don't have the racialized

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<v Speaker 19>experience that we have that so often and this is

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<v Speaker 19>even with the forty percent who votes with us right

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<v Speaker 19>like they were blaming us for Trump. They were saying,

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<v Speaker 19>if y'all had stopped talking about race so much, if

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<v Speaker 19>trans people would just disappear and be quiet, then we

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<v Speaker 19>wouldn't be here. And so it can't be what doctor

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<v Speaker 19>King called the negative peace right, like a justice that's

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<v Speaker 19>based on us having to be erased or us just

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<v Speaker 19>pretending that we don't have the experience that we have.

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<v Speaker 19>So I think we clearly have to figure out how

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<v Speaker 19>to make coalition. The problem is the history of this

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<v Speaker 19>country is that coalition is almost never sustained, and there

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<v Speaker 19>are more of us than them. Just numerically, if you

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<v Speaker 19>add the forty percent of white Americans who vote our

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<v Speaker 19>way and then the vast majority of people who are

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<v Speaker 19>not white, there are more of us than them. But

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<v Speaker 19>that's also why we have Donald Trump in the White

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<v Speaker 19>House now right, why we're seeing these policies, why at

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<v Speaker 19>the moment where people of color largely decide democracy, a

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<v Speaker 19>lot of elite white folks say it actually just kidding.

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<v Speaker 19>We don't believe in democracy anymore. And that's really what

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<v Speaker 19>we're going to be up against more than anything, more

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<v Speaker 19>than building coalition, is do we have a fair election

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<v Speaker 19>in twenty twenty eight?

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<v Speaker 18>Are we going to.

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<v Speaker 19>Lose our representation in Congress through redistricting and through this

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<v Speaker 19>Supreme Court case? And I'm not sure how we come

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<v Speaker 19>overcome that. Coalition building alone won't overcome that. So I'm afraid,

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<v Speaker 19>you know, we're in for some very dark days that

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<v Speaker 19>are not going to be changed by whoever is in

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<v Speaker 19>the White House next.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me just also say that while we're recording right now,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even know if we do break and breaking news,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm the lead of the show, so we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to throw this out there and try to figure it

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<v Speaker 1>out as we go. But the Department of State just

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<v Speaker 1>announce they will pause immigrant visus processing from seventy five

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<v Speaker 1>countries whose migrants take welfare from the American people at

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<v Speaker 1>unacceptable rates. Mind you, those seventy five countries are all

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<v Speaker 1>black and brown. I think that adds some context and

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<v Speaker 1>contour to the conversation we're having. I'm sorry, Andrew, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to cut you off.

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<v Speaker 4>I was actually gonna, oh, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 7>Go ahead, Angela.

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<v Speaker 4>So I want to just tap in here for a

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<v Speaker 4>moment again.

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<v Speaker 2>Hearkening back to this New York Times piece where Donald

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<v Speaker 2>Trump talks about as a result of civil rights legislation

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<v Speaker 2>and progress for US, white people were treated badly.

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<v Speaker 4>So deepening into that.

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<v Speaker 2>When you look at voting rights, white people aren't treated badly.

1:16:49.800 --> 1:16:52.719
<v Speaker 2>When you look at venture capital, white people aren't treated badly.

1:16:52.960 --> 1:16:55.320
<v Speaker 2>When you look at employment rates in this country, they

1:16:55.360 --> 1:16:58.719
<v Speaker 2>are not treated badly. When you look at college education,

1:16:58.880 --> 1:17:02.960
<v Speaker 2>degree attainments, degree attainment, white people are not treated badly.

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<v Speaker 2>When you look at the wealth gap and home ownership

1:17:05.280 --> 1:17:07.559
<v Speaker 2>rates in this country, white people are not treated badly

1:17:08.400 --> 1:17:11.880
<v Speaker 2>wage disparities, even the most recent Department of Transportation dB

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<v Speaker 2>regulation changes that will no longer allow disadvantaged businesses.

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<v Speaker 4>To be to consider race or gender.

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<v Speaker 2>White people are not treated badly, and when you look

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<v Speaker 2>at tenured professors, something you know very well about Nicole

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<v Speaker 2>white folks aren't treated badly in carcon racing race.

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<v Speaker 4>We can keep going.

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<v Speaker 2>As of this twenty twenty, the number of Fortune five

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<v Speaker 2>hundred CEOs who were white men was over eighty five percent.

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<v Speaker 2>The number of white CEOs total in Fortune five hundred

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<v Speaker 2>companies was over ninety two percent, according to Scherm, which

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<v Speaker 2>is the I can't remember it's a human resources organization

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<v Speaker 2>led by a black man. Sixty six percent of men

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<v Speaker 2>hold the C suite positions for the fort one thousand.

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<v Speaker 4>Saying all that to say white people aren't treated badly.

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<v Speaker 2>But the EEOC, which has now changed its mission to

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<v Speaker 2>help white men, recently put out this PSA.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's roll that clip.

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<v Speaker 21>I'm Andrew Lucas, Chair of the US Equal Employment Opportunity Commission.

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<v Speaker 21>Are you a white male who's experienced discrimination at work

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<v Speaker 21>based on your race, sex? You may have a claim

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<v Speaker 21>to recover money.

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<v Speaker 4>In your federals is a Saturday night live clip.

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<v Speaker 21>Contact the EOC as soon as possible. Time limits are

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<v Speaker 21>typically strict for finally acclaim. The EOC is the federal

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<v Speaker 21>agency charged with enforcing federal anti discrimination law against businesses

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<v Speaker 21>and other private sector employers. The EOC is committed to identifying, attacking,

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<v Speaker 21>and eliminating all forms of race and sex discrimination, including

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<v Speaker 21>against white male applicants and employees. Check out EOC dot

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<v Speaker 21>gov to learn more and read our one page explainer

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<v Speaker 21>about DEI lilated discrimination.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought she was slinging peels or something like, are

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<v Speaker 1>you a white male who can't get it up at night?

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<v Speaker 1>Please reach outreach out to than us.

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<v Speaker 7>They know those stats, Angela. They go to the golf courses,

1:19:14.479 --> 1:19:17.600
<v Speaker 7>they have dinner together, they have tailgates together. They know

1:19:17.640 --> 1:19:20.080
<v Speaker 7>where their friends are working and and and who helped

1:19:20.080 --> 1:19:23.320
<v Speaker 7>their child get into college. What is bothering them is

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<v Speaker 7>now their children, who are coming home and getting back

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<v Speaker 7>on the couch, are there because they have to compete

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<v Speaker 7>with me and you and all the rest of us

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<v Speaker 7>on this screen right now, and our children and they're

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<v Speaker 7>you know, so on and so forth, and their adjacency.

1:19:42.120 --> 1:19:44.559
<v Speaker 7>It feels like they're adjacency to the power. The person

1:19:44.600 --> 1:19:47.200
<v Speaker 7>who makes the moves and the decision is just getting

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<v Speaker 7>a little bit further Now instead of a finger reach,

1:19:50.280 --> 1:19:53.519
<v Speaker 7>it's maybe an arms less reach from where they are.

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<v Speaker 7>You didn't ask me this, Bakari, and I may be

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<v Speaker 7>crucified for this way of thinking. But numbers do matter, Nicole.

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<v Speaker 7>You bought it up and you did too. Joy around

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<v Speaker 7>what percentage black people are in this country? Why we

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<v Speaker 7>got to bring some people to our side if we're

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<v Speaker 7>going to ever see advancement. I knew that same thing

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<v Speaker 7>running for governor of Florida and what I what I

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<v Speaker 7>was not going to do, and I appreciated as system

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<v Speaker 7>and co bringing it back to our displacement and discomfort

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<v Speaker 7>and having to do this where we it's okay and

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<v Speaker 7>the you know, go along to get along is we

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<v Speaker 7>weren't going to be in my townholl mediaing ands you

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<v Speaker 7>talked about I ain't.

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<v Speaker 3>Got a racist.

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<v Speaker 7>No, guess what, let me tell you what I believe.

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<v Speaker 7>I think we all got it. We all said some things.

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<v Speaker 7>I think we do some things. And guess what it

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<v Speaker 7>may not even be on our conscious brain. Our lived

1:20:41.439 --> 1:20:44.320
<v Speaker 7>experiences may have shaped us into this thing and you

1:20:44.400 --> 1:20:47.519
<v Speaker 7>just knee jerk react that way. But guess what, I

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<v Speaker 7>don't I'm not calling you a racist because it feels

1:20:50.160 --> 1:20:53.200
<v Speaker 7>like a static position. You did some racist shit, you

1:20:53.240 --> 1:20:55.439
<v Speaker 7>think it's some racist thoughts, and you may do some

1:20:55.520 --> 1:20:57.559
<v Speaker 7>racist stuff tomorrow, but the day after that you have

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<v Speaker 7>a choice of change. What are you going to do

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<v Speaker 7>to change? Are you going to allow it to go

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<v Speaker 7>from the recesses of your mind to your frontal load

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<v Speaker 7>so that when you're doing these things, I don't want

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<v Speaker 7>you going and understanding I'm vote. I vote blind. Color

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<v Speaker 7>doesn't matter, see my color. Because if we don't talk

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<v Speaker 7>about it now, and you go in that ballot box

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<v Speaker 7>and it's just you in that paper and the recesses

1:21:19.720 --> 1:21:22.759
<v Speaker 7>of your mind start to take control, it may convince

1:21:22.800 --> 1:21:25.680
<v Speaker 7>you that a black man cannot possibly be governor of

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<v Speaker 7>this state. So long as you to go in there

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<v Speaker 7>and no, you know what, there's a black man running

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<v Speaker 7>for governor, and you know it over these days and

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<v Speaker 7>listening to him and the debasem da da da da da,

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<v Speaker 7>I think he could be a good governor. Don't let

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<v Speaker 7>the recesses be the dictate on your actions. You you

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<v Speaker 7>still have the chance to change I've done some things

1:21:42.000 --> 1:21:43.840
<v Speaker 7>I ain't proud of as relates to race and gender

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<v Speaker 7>and all these kinds of things, and you have to

1:21:46.360 --> 1:21:48.960
<v Speaker 7>and guess what. We live to fight another day. You

1:21:49.000 --> 1:21:51.920
<v Speaker 7>can still change. And again I don't, I don't. I

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<v Speaker 7>don't say that in a pollyannish kind of way. The

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<v Speaker 7>intention is to like bring it to your conscious brain

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<v Speaker 7>that you're doing this shit all the time, the microaguessions,

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<v Speaker 7>locking your car, pulling your purse, crossing the street, all

1:22:04.800 --> 1:22:06.719
<v Speaker 7>those kinds of things that you do without even thinking.

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<v Speaker 7>But I see it and I experience it. It embarrasses me,

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<v Speaker 7>but you do it anyway, So let's talk about it.

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<v Speaker 4>Nicole.

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<v Speaker 7>You can crucify me, because I know that is polyannic sounding,

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<v Speaker 7>but it was the only way I could get through

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<v Speaker 7>without feeling dishonest.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you can to call also folding your response

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<v Speaker 2>to this PSA about white men needing to find EEOC claims,

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<v Speaker 2>please whatever that, I'm just.

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<v Speaker 19>Gonna quickly say that Andrew, I actually don't think everybody's racist.

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<v Speaker 19>I think everybody does have prejudice. I think we do

1:22:39.080 --> 1:22:42.240
<v Speaker 19>prejudge things, but I feel like racist is a very

1:22:42.240 --> 1:22:45.040
<v Speaker 19>particular term. And when we say that we actually let

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<v Speaker 19>white supremacy off the hook. I don't know black folks

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<v Speaker 19>walking around thinking that they as a race are superior

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<v Speaker 19>to white Americans, or that white Americans should be denied

1:22:55.400 --> 1:22:58.080
<v Speaker 19>access to opportunity and that we should set up top

1:22:58.120 --> 1:23:01.959
<v Speaker 19>a hierarchy. Now, we may have prejudice against white Americans

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<v Speaker 19>based on our own experiences or based on our own stereotypes,

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<v Speaker 19>but I think we have to make a distinction because

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<v Speaker 19>racism is really about system and frankly, I don't care

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<v Speaker 19>if you don't like black people. What I do care

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<v Speaker 19>is if you have the power to alter my opportunities

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<v Speaker 19>in my life. So I just want to be clear there.

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<v Speaker 19>As for the EEOC, so there's two things that always

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<v Speaker 19>kind of stand out to me when I hear this.

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<v Speaker 19>And I'm actually been working on a story about the EEOC,

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<v Speaker 19>so I can't say too much because I don't want

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<v Speaker 19>nobody still in my report. But the thing that they

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<v Speaker 19>cannot respond to who is doing the discriminating They're basically

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<v Speaker 19>what they're arguing is in a white majority country where

1:23:40.320 --> 1:23:44.000
<v Speaker 19>white people hold all the levers of power, that white

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<v Speaker 19>people are being victimized by white people.

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<v Speaker 18>That's the argument.

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<v Speaker 19>I mean it really is right, Like the who's making

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<v Speaker 19>admissions decisions at these elite schools. They know who's hiring

1:23:54.960 --> 1:23:57.519
<v Speaker 19>a fortune five hundred, they know the law firms that

1:23:57.520 --> 1:24:00.000
<v Speaker 19>they win after, who's running them, who's making all these

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<v Speaker 19>hiring decisions. And so just like that anti se Rt frenzy,

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<v Speaker 19>where we were to believe that a teaching force that

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<v Speaker 19>was eighty percent white had a bunch of white women

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<v Speaker 19>telling little white Johnny that he was the racist devil.

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<v Speaker 19>It defies logic, right, So when they're making these claims,

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<v Speaker 19>they are never saying who they are talking to about

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<v Speaker 19>that is doing the discriminating, because the only people in

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<v Speaker 19>power to do systemic discrimination against white people are white people,

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<v Speaker 19>and that doesn't make sense. Okay, But the second thing

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<v Speaker 19>is just by you laying out angelo, which which we

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<v Speaker 19>I don't see enough in media right when they're when

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<v Speaker 19>Trump is making the claim about civil rights five minutes

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<v Speaker 19>on the internet. And you can refute all of that

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<v Speaker 19>with data, peer reviewed, easily accessible. You can pick government data,

1:24:52.360 --> 1:24:56.520
<v Speaker 19>academic data, like it's the data from the companies themselves,

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<v Speaker 19>you could easily refute it.

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<v Speaker 18>But what we are in is a narrative war.

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<v Speaker 19>The facts are relevant, the fact that six percent of

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<v Speaker 19>doctors are black means black folks ain't taking no white

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<v Speaker 19>people's jobs, less than three percent of lawyers.

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<v Speaker 18>Right, just go down the list.

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<v Speaker 19>Right, we're underrepresented at every elite institution and most non

1:25:16.880 --> 1:25:21.160
<v Speaker 19>elite institutions, and we're overrepresented at the bottom. Right, service sector,

1:25:21.280 --> 1:25:26.680
<v Speaker 19>low wate jobs, community colleges, and predatory academic institutions. We

1:25:26.720 --> 1:25:31.719
<v Speaker 19>are overrepresented. But that is irrelevant. What matters is the narrative,

1:25:31.880 --> 1:25:35.559
<v Speaker 19>and the narrative is to make white people feel because

1:25:35.560 --> 1:25:39.080
<v Speaker 19>white people do feel something, right, they do feel I mean,

1:25:39.120 --> 1:25:40.960
<v Speaker 19>I talk about this sometimes.

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<v Speaker 18>Remember I was flying on a plane, I think I was.

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<v Speaker 19>I think I was leaving Detroit, and every single person

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<v Speaker 19>in first class was black, And you know, usually want

1:25:51.880 --> 1:25:58.240
<v Speaker 19>to ask, every single person in first class is black?

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<v Speaker 19>And you watch the the white people come across the

1:26:02.160 --> 1:26:05.519
<v Speaker 19>jet bridge and they turn that corner and all of

1:26:05.520 --> 1:26:09.120
<v Speaker 19>a sudden, like their whole world is off kilter. Now

1:26:09.880 --> 1:26:14.200
<v Speaker 19>going back to coach or comfort plus with everybody in

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<v Speaker 19>first class is white.

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<v Speaker 18>To you.

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<v Speaker 19>But if you have to go back to comfort class

1:26:20.080 --> 1:26:23.760
<v Speaker 19>or coach and everybody in first class is black, then

1:26:23.800 --> 1:26:28.200
<v Speaker 19>suddenly your status is looking a little shabby. Right, And

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<v Speaker 19>even though that's not reflective of America. We know most

1:26:31.720 --> 1:26:34.439
<v Speaker 19>most black folk, like most planes you write on anywhere,

1:26:34.520 --> 1:26:36.880
<v Speaker 19>it might be one black person in first class. But

1:26:37.040 --> 1:26:39.639
<v Speaker 19>just that one incident, I was just watching their faces.

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<v Speaker 19>It was like a pause for a second. And so

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<v Speaker 19>what Donald Trump and this administration is tapping into is

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<v Speaker 19>a sense among a month excuse me, amongst white Americans,

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<v Speaker 19>not that they're slipping, that they're losing something, period, but

1:26:56.320 --> 1:26:59.320
<v Speaker 19>they feel like they're losing something relative to us, and

1:26:59.360 --> 1:27:02.000
<v Speaker 19>we have to unders and this is how segregation works.

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<v Speaker 19>Most white Americans, the only black people they know are

1:27:05.960 --> 1:27:09.200
<v Speaker 19>black people in the same situation as them. They don't

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<v Speaker 19>experience the vast majority of black folks who are living

1:27:12.200 --> 1:27:16.040
<v Speaker 19>in segregated neighborhoods, who don't have access to quality schools,

1:27:16.280 --> 1:27:19.320
<v Speaker 19>who are working jobs that don't pay well. If you

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<v Speaker 19>are a white person and you know a black person,

1:27:21.240 --> 1:27:23.960
<v Speaker 19>you know because I work with you, or I'm in

1:27:24.000 --> 1:27:26.439
<v Speaker 19>the same supermarket, or I might be a handful of

1:27:26.439 --> 1:27:28.760
<v Speaker 19>black people who live in your neighborhood. And so that

1:27:28.880 --> 1:27:30.880
<v Speaker 19>perception is, oh, black people live in just like me,

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<v Speaker 19>And that's not how the world is supposed to be

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<v Speaker 19>that's what happens in a racial hierarchy. So that's what

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<v Speaker 19>they're tapping into. It doesn't matter what the data and

1:27:37.360 --> 1:27:40.160
<v Speaker 19>the facts are, because what I know what I know,

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<v Speaker 19>and this is all I'm going to say, because again

1:27:41.680 --> 1:27:44.400
<v Speaker 19>I'm reporting on it. We know who the most race

1:27:44.439 --> 1:27:47.920
<v Speaker 19>discrimination complaints that go to the EEOC come from black folks,

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<v Speaker 19>because we also know from data and sociological research that

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<v Speaker 19>black people face the most discrimination in the job market

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<v Speaker 19>of all racial groups.

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<v Speaker 18>So they don't have enough cases.

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<v Speaker 19>To bring a reverse reverse discrimination which is also a

1:28:06.120 --> 1:28:09.320
<v Speaker 19>made up term which says discrimination against white people is different,

1:28:09.520 --> 1:28:12.120
<v Speaker 19>which also tells you about racial hierarchy. They don't have

1:28:12.240 --> 1:28:14.920
<v Speaker 19>enough cases to bring, so they have to solicit them

1:28:15.280 --> 1:28:17.599
<v Speaker 19>because they have no evidence of the claim that they're

1:28:17.640 --> 1:28:19.799
<v Speaker 19>trying to make, So they have to produce the evidence

1:28:20.200 --> 1:28:23.080
<v Speaker 19>and read the story when it comes out. But that's

1:28:23.120 --> 1:28:28.080
<v Speaker 19>what we're seeing, and it is unprecedented. The EEOC, which

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<v Speaker 19>was literally created out of the nineteen sixty four Civil

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<v Speaker 19>Rights Act to ensure Black Americans had an equal opportunity

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<v Speaker 19>in the workforce, has never ever issued a solicitation for

1:28:43.400 --> 1:28:48.080
<v Speaker 19>a particular race or particular gender to file complaints they've

1:28:48.120 --> 1:28:51.799
<v Speaker 19>never done that, and so to use that unprecedented moment

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<v Speaker 19>to call on white men who are overrepresented right in

1:28:56.720 --> 1:29:01.679
<v Speaker 19>every field that is a leading pays. Well, that's about narrative.

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<v Speaker 19>They know that it doesn't they know it doesn't exist.

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<v Speaker 19>The last thing I'll say on this, sorry, you can

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<v Speaker 19>tell I've been thinking.

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<v Speaker 7>A lot of love it.

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<v Speaker 19>If they really believed that white Americans were facing rampant discrimination,

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<v Speaker 19>why would you gut civil rights agencies. You cannot at

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<v Speaker 19>once say white people are facing discrimination, they don't have

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<v Speaker 19>access to education, they don't have access to jobs, they're

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<v Speaker 19>facing all of these programs are discriminating against them, and

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<v Speaker 19>then say we need to eliminate the entire civil rights

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<v Speaker 19>divisions of the justice not well, shrink right, decapitate the

1:29:40.320 --> 1:29:44.040
<v Speaker 19>civil rights enforcement mechanism of the federal government. If you

1:29:44.120 --> 1:29:47.040
<v Speaker 19>believe that people are facing rampant discrimination, you would want

1:29:47.080 --> 1:29:49.680
<v Speaker 19>that very strong so they could root out all of

1:29:49.680 --> 1:29:51.320
<v Speaker 19>this illegal discrimination white.

1:29:51.080 --> 1:29:52.200
<v Speaker 18>People are experiencing.

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<v Speaker 19>But instead they know that's not true, they gut the

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<v Speaker 19>civil rights agencies, and then they can complain about how

1:29:58.600 --> 1:29:59.599
<v Speaker 19>victimized they are.

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<v Speaker 18>That's my answer.

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<v Speaker 7>Amen, I love it. She said you extinguished the Arsenal.

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<v Speaker 2>If you had a last question, but do I want

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<v Speaker 2>to make sure you get in to ask our dear

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<v Speaker 2>sister any question, offer any comment books.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you got to get out of here too,

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<v Speaker 1>and I want to make sure we got.

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<v Speaker 6>So absolutely well my last question, very and you answered

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<v Speaker 6>much of what I would have asked. So I'll just

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<v Speaker 6>skip to my media question. Because the New York Times

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<v Speaker 6>did this reporting about what Donald Trump said in that

1:30:27.080 --> 1:30:31.440
<v Speaker 6>editorial interview. Assess for me where you think the mainstream

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<v Speaker 6>media is in being able to talk about Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 6>We've now had his former lawyer Michael Cohen say that

1:30:36.880 --> 1:30:39.680
<v Speaker 6>he was a racist. We've now had him himself say

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<v Speaker 6>that he opposed the Civil Rights Act. I don't know

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<v Speaker 6>what more evidence the media needs to change its language.

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<v Speaker 6>What do you make of the fact that despite Donald

1:30:48.280 --> 1:30:50.519
<v Speaker 6>Trump putting so much more evidence on the table, putting

1:30:50.520 --> 1:30:53.759
<v Speaker 6>what Ice is doing on the table, the language hasn't changed.

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<v Speaker 6>And in fact, in the Barry Weiss world, it's it's

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<v Speaker 6>gone the other way, where people are saying, we need

1:30:58.439 --> 1:31:01.960
<v Speaker 6>to increase our understand of people who support this.

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<v Speaker 19>I'm not gonna comment on the Barri Wiss world because

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<v Speaker 19>Barry Weiss to me, is not a journalist at all.

1:31:10.280 --> 1:31:14.160
<v Speaker 19>What she's producing is is not any of based on

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<v Speaker 19>any of the journalistics standards and ethics that me, a

1:31:18.479 --> 1:31:24.240
<v Speaker 19>trained journalist, was actually brought up on. But I will

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<v Speaker 19>say I have seen a subtle shift. I have seen

1:31:29.280 --> 1:31:33.320
<v Speaker 19>now reporting that says he said something racist. They don't

1:31:33.320 --> 1:31:36.040
<v Speaker 19>call him a racist, and frankly, I don't care. They

1:31:36.040 --> 1:31:38.000
<v Speaker 19>don't have to call him a racist, but you do

1:31:38.080 --> 1:31:41.439
<v Speaker 19>have to properly describe what he's doing and what he's saying.

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<v Speaker 19>You know, two years ago they wouldn't have described things

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<v Speaker 19>that he said as racist or things that he's done

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<v Speaker 19>is racist, and they are doing that. So there's subtle

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<v Speaker 19>I don't know that. I won't say, I don't know,

1:31:53.160 --> 1:31:56.640
<v Speaker 19>it doesn't go far enough, but I think what's so important,

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<v Speaker 19>and this is part of like what you're doing joy

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<v Speaker 19>with independent media. The rise of independent media means that

1:32:05.760 --> 1:32:09.760
<v Speaker 19>mainstream media is being pushed, right, You're being pushed to

1:32:09.960 --> 1:32:13.280
<v Speaker 19>sharpen their analysis. You know, it's fascinating that in an

1:32:13.280 --> 1:32:18.639
<v Speaker 19>industry where precision of words, precision of terms is literally

1:32:18.640 --> 1:32:21.200
<v Speaker 19>our bread and butter when it comes to things like

1:32:22.040 --> 1:32:27.000
<v Speaker 19>is this a regime? Describe other similar governments as regimes?

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<v Speaker 19>Is this authoritarianism? Are we seeing fascist actions? Even if

1:32:31.600 --> 1:32:34.920
<v Speaker 19>you don't want to call someone a fascist, Is what's

1:32:34.920 --> 1:32:38.320
<v Speaker 19>happening in Ghana or Gaza a genocide? If all of

1:32:38.360 --> 1:32:42.200
<v Speaker 19>the experts on genocide say that it is, it tells

1:32:42.240 --> 1:32:45.120
<v Speaker 19>you a lot about this idea of objectivity that we

1:32:45.200 --> 1:32:48.160
<v Speaker 19>can't objectively name things still.

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<v Speaker 18>Depending on the subject matter.

1:32:51.200 --> 1:32:53.920
<v Speaker 19>So I think it's I think that we are seeing

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<v Speaker 19>an improvement, but I still think over all the media

1:32:58.640 --> 1:33:02.799
<v Speaker 19>fails more often than not to paint an accurate picture

1:33:02.840 --> 1:33:06.000
<v Speaker 19>of Trump. There's excellent coverage that happens, but then it's

1:33:06.040 --> 1:33:09.600
<v Speaker 19>outweighed by fluff coverage. Right, And so the average American

1:33:10.560 --> 1:33:13.040
<v Speaker 19>you can't, like, on the one hand, like describe these

1:33:13.080 --> 1:33:16.680
<v Speaker 19>authoritarian actions and then do a story about wardrobe.

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<v Speaker 18>Right, It's like, what's the picture that we're getting?

1:33:19.520 --> 1:33:22.080
<v Speaker 19>And I think we just continue to struggle to do

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<v Speaker 19>that and that the media and the end when the

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<v Speaker 19>when the history of this moment is written.

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<v Speaker 18>It's going to it's going to have a pretty shameful legacy.

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<v Speaker 4>I agreed.

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<v Speaker 1>Amen, Thanks troubl I want to say thank you, and

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<v Speaker 1>as we say on this show, welcome home to somebody

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<v Speaker 1>Amazing podcast.

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<v Speaker 4>When the EEO C story drops, please.

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<v Speaker 1>Come back, Oh please welcome home. Thank you so much, brilliant,

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<v Speaker 1>we got It's three, It's three, Andrew.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, imagine every week I'm talking about I'm talking about

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<v Speaker 7>I mean y'all, just y'all levitating today.

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<v Speaker 22>Here, all right, take care say we want to go

1:34:08.680 --> 1:34:10.920
<v Speaker 22>straight into this call to action, love it.

1:34:17.000 --> 1:34:20.960
<v Speaker 23>Who cares about truth and allows more than seen it.

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<v Speaker 6>My call to action today is everyone, remember that the

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<v Speaker 6>Trump regime does not believe in the nineteen sixty four

1:34:28.920 --> 1:34:30.800
<v Speaker 6>Civil Rights Act. You said it's bad for white people.

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<v Speaker 6>So okay, let's play their way. Treat them like gremlins.

1:34:34.479 --> 1:34:37.360
<v Speaker 6>If you own a restaurant, don't feed them. If you've

1:34:37.360 --> 1:34:39.640
<v Speaker 6>got an establishment, don't let them in. They don't have

1:34:39.640 --> 1:34:41.400
<v Speaker 6>to use the bathroom at your place. If you got

1:34:41.439 --> 1:34:45.320
<v Speaker 6>to shut down early at lunchtime, do it. Minnesota restaurants

1:34:45.360 --> 1:34:47.680
<v Speaker 6>are doing just that. We're seeing it in Chicago, We're

1:34:47.680 --> 1:34:50.679
<v Speaker 6>seeing it in many cities. If ice comes to your door,

1:34:50.800 --> 1:34:52.360
<v Speaker 6>just put a sign up on your door that says

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<v Speaker 6>no maths other than medical or allow if you're not.

1:34:55.160 --> 1:34:56.680
<v Speaker 6>If you're wearing a mask and it ain't medical, you

1:34:56.720 --> 1:34:59.160
<v Speaker 6>can't come in here. Treat them like a gremlin. Don't

1:34:59.200 --> 1:35:02.559
<v Speaker 6>feed them. People know that work for Ice, that they

1:35:02.600 --> 1:35:05.920
<v Speaker 6>are not welcome in your establishment and in your city.

1:35:06.360 --> 1:35:09.280
<v Speaker 6>Do it safely, but do it because they need to

1:35:09.320 --> 1:35:12.559
<v Speaker 6>get the message that Ice is not welcome.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome, but you're always welcome. Joy and read welcome home,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you with us.

1:35:20.320 --> 1:35:22.600
<v Speaker 6>Absolutely, this was so much fun. I love you all

1:35:22.640 --> 1:35:24.040
<v Speaker 6>and there's not a thing you can do about it.

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<v Speaker 1>You welcome home, thank you. Mine is simple mind. Yeah,

1:35:31.040 --> 1:35:33.040
<v Speaker 1>they are very smart. It makes me want to go

1:35:33.080 --> 1:35:36.479
<v Speaker 1>read some books. I wish I had time to be

1:35:36.520 --> 1:35:40.720
<v Speaker 1>reading books again. Anyway. My call to action is the

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<v Speaker 1>breaking news in South Carolina was we have an ongoing

1:35:43.960 --> 1:35:46.559
<v Speaker 1>measles outbreak in South Carolina. It's grown to more than

1:35:46.600 --> 1:35:50.040
<v Speaker 1>four hundred and thirty cases. That's what our state Department

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<v Speaker 1>of Health has reported. More than half of those cases

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<v Speaker 1>were reported in the last week. The vast majority of

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<v Speaker 1>measles cases in the current outbreak have been among children,

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<v Speaker 1>have been among children, and nearly all have been unvaccinated

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<v Speaker 1>with the MMR vaccine. So my caught action is just

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<v Speaker 1>be very cautious. I know that ha make America healthy again. People,

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<v Speaker 1>particularly a lot of my white female friends, were excited

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<v Speaker 1>about Robert Kennedy because he wanted to ban red dye.

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<v Speaker 1>But he's the reason that children in South Carolina are

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<v Speaker 1>getting sick in their lives will forever be altered. He's

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<v Speaker 1>an anti vaxxer who believes taylanol and circumcision causes autism.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a heroin addict. He killed and dumped a six

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<v Speaker 1>month old bear in Central Park. He severed the head

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<v Speaker 1>of a dead beach well, and he said that he

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<v Speaker 1>had a worm in his brain that died after eating

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<v Speaker 1>a portion of it. But people cheered for him, and

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<v Speaker 1>now kids are literally suffering, And so I want people

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<v Speaker 1>to know that elections have consequences. Be very mindful. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>praying for those kids who have measles in South Carolina,

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<v Speaker 1>their entire communities. It is ravishing my great state, and

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<v Speaker 1>unfortunately nobody's saying anything about it.

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<v Speaker 4>That is horrible, horrible.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess I will go now on a slightly lighter note.

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<v Speaker 24>Uh.

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<v Speaker 4>Tianna Taylor won a Golden Globe.

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<v Speaker 2>This past weekend, and during her acceptance speech, she had

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<v Speaker 2>this to say to little brown girls.

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<v Speaker 24>My brown sisters, and little brown girls watching tonight. Our

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<v Speaker 24>softness is not a liability. Our depth is not depth.

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<v Speaker 24>It's not too much. Our light does not need permission

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<v Speaker 24>to sean. We belong in every room we walk into.

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<v Speaker 24>Our voices matter, and our dreams deserve space.

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<v Speaker 7>Thank you so much, everybody.

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<v Speaker 4>We deserve Andrew Gillam, Hey, I.

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<v Speaker 7>Said it before.

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<v Speaker 3>If I just want to double down on what Joy sort.

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<v Speaker 7>Of raised, which is people power, what people can do

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<v Speaker 7>when we just decide to lean in. Take a at

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<v Speaker 7>this clip and see if it inspires you in some way.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome.

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<v Speaker 25>Yeah, no, the Americans that are sending a message and

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<v Speaker 25>they're saying immigrants are welcome here, no fear, no hate.

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<v Speaker 5>It cannot be that. I don't see anything that's more

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<v Speaker 5>American than that. And I'm here just to experience, and

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<v Speaker 5>so can the goodness of America from the streets of Minneapolis, Minnesota.

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<v Speaker 7>I wanted to.

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<v Speaker 5>Walk with them, but I cannot.

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<v Speaker 7>It is so cold.

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<v Speaker 25>It's probably minus here, so I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>My bones.

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<v Speaker 5>Couldn't do it. I'm here listening.

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<v Speaker 7>Every word did they utter? Is like a sound track

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<v Speaker 7>to my music.

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<v Speaker 5>Absolutely beautiful.

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<v Speaker 7>I feel hope in the air, all right.

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<v Speaker 5>I love it. It's this boy J Potter, the writer.

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<v Speaker 7>I love that. I love that.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for that.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, that's that's that's that's it right there. I mean,

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<v Speaker 7>if you got to hear a president calling you everything

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<v Speaker 7>any name, you're a taker, you're you know, the bottom

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<v Speaker 7>of the of the trash, all this kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 7>That man, he put it so perfectly. Every word they

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<v Speaker 7>utter is music to my ears. It's so hopefully that

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<v Speaker 7>inspires some of us. If we think saying nothing, doing

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<v Speaker 7>nothing is okay, and our presence and our voices may

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<v Speaker 7>not be felt. Just know somebody's always watching, somebody's always listening.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a great way to end the show. What was

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<v Speaker 1>a very heavy show. I hope people enjoyed it listening

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<v Speaker 1>and watching as much as we enjoyed participating. As always,

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<v Speaker 1>Every since they I joined. We got a nomination for

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<v Speaker 4>We won last year.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, shoot, you can't go you can't go back to

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<v Speaker 1>back without me anyway. Shout out to Tiffany Cross, who

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<v Speaker 1>deserves this award more than most, more than anybody. But

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<v Speaker 1>make sure you go with I don't even know where

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<v Speaker 1>the link is, but we will.

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<v Speaker 7>Definitely, he's more than manybody's.

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<v Speaker 4>In the fourth quarter trying to take credit.

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<v Speaker 1>No, trust me. If we went again, it's going up

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<v Speaker 1>behind me. It's definitely I got beat, I got be

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<v Speaker 1>by who how.

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<v Speaker 4>You learning your showing what an image of award looked like?

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<v Speaker 4>Showing what an image of wards look like?

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<v Speaker 2>An okay, but put it in frame.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I ain't got one of all I have is

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<v Speaker 1>an emmy anyway, if you're looking for more shows like here,

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<v Speaker 1>what is that.

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<v Speaker 4>Caroline?

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<v Speaker 6>Then?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, beautiful?

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<v Speaker 1>Look at that gorgeous? Do you mind if I finished? Now? Andrew?

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<v Speaker 1>You got any other family?

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<v Speaker 4>Let me just get in the mic ag.

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<v Speaker 7>One more thing, one more thing? Okay, go ahead, Okay,

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<v Speaker 7>thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Check out the other shows on our reason Choice Media Networks,

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<v Speaker 1>I need to meet no, so I can yeah, yeah, Chicago.

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<v Speaker 7>Chicago, Chicago.

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<v Speaker 4>No, he wasn't there to day.

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't. I wasn't there. He came on the first No, No,

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<v Speaker 1>and ninety eight days until midterm elections.

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<v Speaker 4>That's too long for you, however.

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<v Speaker 23>could have.

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