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Speaker 1: So our main stories today, Our main topics for today

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Speaker 1: are unrest and protest in Minnesota. Unfortunately, we were taping

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Speaker 1: last week when the shooting of Rename Good happened, So

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Speaker 1: we're also going to talk about Trump's attacks on civil rights.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you all saw this, but Trump

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Speaker 1: thought that all of our parents and forefather's efforts weren't

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Speaker 1: vain during the civil rights movement because all it did

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Speaker 1: That's what it is. So today we're going to get

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Speaker 1: into a couple of things. We're going to get into

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Speaker 1: the Federal Reserve under investigation. I don't know if you

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Speaker 1: all saw, but Jerome Pole, who has served under four

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Speaker 1: count on four United States presidents, received criminal sub penis

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Speaker 1: because he's not willing to go along. To get along

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Speaker 1: with this White House, we have Minnesota. Minnesota Attorney General

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Speaker 1: Keith Ellison is suing DHS. Andrew has been steadfast on

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Speaker 1: making sure that our state wide elected officials do something.

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Speaker 1: We'll question this and see whether or not that is

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Speaker 1: enough where we need more. The Clinton's my homeboys and girls,

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Speaker 1: all of ours. I guess I think I think all

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Speaker 1: four of us are still on good terms. I ain't sure.

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Speaker 1: We'll figure that out. But the Clinton skip testifying to

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Speaker 1: Congress about Epstein and they risk contempt. Comer's gonna have

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Speaker 1: a lot to say about that. My video today that

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Speaker 1: I love Drew Ski's viral video making fun of mega

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Speaker 1: church pastors with his Christian lubatans own because he is

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Speaker 1: I love it all. And then we're going to allow

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Speaker 1: the person who does this better than I, but Joyanne Reid.

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Speaker 1: We'll be able to toss to hers today, which is

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Speaker 1: Robin Kelly announce his articles of impeachment against DHS Secretary

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Speaker 1: Christy Nome, and we'll have a I have a comment

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Speaker 1: Federal Reserve under investigation. We'll get into this a little

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Speaker 8: On Friday, the Department of Justice served the Federal Reserve

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Speaker 8: with grand jury subpoenas threatening a criminal indictment related to

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Speaker 8: my testimony before the Senate Banking Committee last June. That

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Speaker 8: testimony concerned, in part, a multi year project to renovate

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Speaker 8: historic Federal Reserve office buildings. I have deep respect for

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Speaker 8: the rule of law and for accountability in our democracy.

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Speaker 8: No one, certainly not the chair of the Federal Reserve,

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Speaker 8: The threat of criminal charges is a consequence of the

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Speaker 7: This is about whether the Fed will be able to.

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Speaker 7: You know, there's a reason we never hear or no

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Speaker 2: Well, the thing that's crazy about this is he literally

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Speaker 4: You all saw that news conference where.

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Speaker 2: Jerome Poulli was said, and they seem like, nah, it

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Speaker 4: That's what this is all about.

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Speaker 1: I think the people have to understand the import of

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Speaker 1: Jerome pile Just briefly, the Federal Reserve is one of

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Speaker 1: doesn't report to the president. But they set monetary policy.

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Speaker 1: I saw you want to jump in real quick. Joy.

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Speaker 6: No, absolutely, no, keep going, But I think people need

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Speaker 6: to know this context, so go for it.

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Speaker 1: I was just they set monetary policy, mortgage rates, etc.

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Speaker 1: All of those things are so important to the way

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Speaker 1: That's why we don't know who he is. Anybody else

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Speaker 7: Terms are pointed obviously to go in and out of administrations,

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Speaker 7: So the FED chair and the boards are not connected

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Speaker 6: And the thing that people need to understand is that

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Speaker 6: the purpose of it was to say that independent federal

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Speaker 6: whether that's the Attorney General or the FED. These are

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Speaker 4: It is.

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Speaker 6: And so these agencies are being forced to report directly

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Speaker 1: Let me find out that Kamala was right about twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty five. Project twenty twenty five. Also, DHS is something

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Speaker 1: we've been talking about a lot. Minnesota Attorney General Keith

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Speaker 1: Ellison announces that Minnesota is suing DHS. Here's a clip.

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Speaker 9: We've come together and we're here to announce a lawsuit

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Speaker 9: we're finaling against the United States Department of Homeland Security

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Speaker 9: to end the unlawful, unprecedented surge of the federal law

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Speaker 1: Because this has to stop.

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Speaker 7: I'm glad he looked up from that page. I felt

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Speaker 7: that this has to stop. No, I mean, really, this

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Speaker 7: The only you know, consideration, I would have a recommendation

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Speaker 7: and Congressman now General Attorney General Ellison is a brilliant man.

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Speaker 7: But I can't wait to see that lawsuit that is

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Speaker 7: going to come down challenging the federal governments of investigatory

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Speaker 7: what investigation obviously has to take place, but basically barring

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Speaker 7: But I mean, I just think, I don't. I'm not

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Speaker 7: Enjoy you play one great on TV, so so I don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't.

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Speaker 7: I don't know. But the supremacy of the federal government,

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Speaker 4: The bottom line, I mean no, you Goo.

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Speaker 2: The bottom line is their supremacy does not put them

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Speaker 2: They are breaking the law under the color of law,

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Speaker 2: and I think that's the biggest problem. I will tell

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Speaker 6: Joel Yield, No, I was just gonna say that in

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Speaker 6: the Derek Chauvin precedent, because remember George Floyd, same state, Minneapolis,

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Speaker 6: there were federal and state charges. And that's the reason

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Speaker 6: that Donald Trump cannot pardon Derek Chauvin because he has

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Speaker 6: like space in twenty two years in state charges. And

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Speaker 6: here's the challenge. I spoke with Paul Butler on the

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Speaker 6: the attorney general who spearheaded making sure Derek Chauvin and

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Speaker 6: those other cops who killed George Floyd who murdered George

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Speaker 6: Floyd face Justice. I think whatever they have to do,

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Speaker 6: they should p sue this guy, Jonathan Ross, pursue him

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Speaker 6: because they won't even touch this case and instead wanted

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Speaker 6: to investigate Renee Good, the deed lady.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they actually did launch it, attempted attempted to launch

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Speaker 1: an investigation into her wife. And they just announced that

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Speaker 1: from the tap that the officer received, mister Ross, he

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Speaker 1: had two anonymous sources say that he suffered some internal

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Speaker 6: Skipped away looking perfectly normal and walk away.

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Speaker 1: Calls that F and B. I'm just telling you what

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Speaker 7: The tap that he got by jumping in front of

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Speaker 4: On to the next headline.

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Speaker 1: The crazy part about it is, I just want people

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Speaker 1: to know that that is a tactic that's used by

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Speaker 6: I think that the previous ags under Democratic administration should

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Speaker 7: The only thing I would add is the Clintons in

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Speaker 7: But they basically said if you're truly after the facts,

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Speaker 7: Road a clip, Nick, let's see what any longer Chryso Dollar.

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Speaker 4: And names.

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Speaker 1: So I impregnated her with the Word of God. I'm

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Speaker 4: Not that hip thrust.

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Speaker 1: You won't be pregnant with the Word of God.

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Speaker 9: Somebody in the congregation asks why I'm wearing Christian?

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Speaker 1: Do you're Christian? Lubdun because I'm a Christian and I walk.

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Speaker 10: In the blood of.

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Speaker 7: Tver M to pray.

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Speaker 11: Wow, wow, wow, go ahead, and it looks like Look,

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Speaker 7: But I will tell you I said this to Angela yesterday.

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Speaker 7: I just thought, you know, there's some people who have

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Speaker 7: And I keep thinking, is that because.

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Speaker 1: It's a distraction. I can't even follow the word.

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Speaker 7: I can't get a capacitated hat. You had a church,

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Speaker 1: You need to stop. I'm a piscopellion. I'm are you

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Speaker 1: You know if he was a I'm a pispeion. I'm Catholic,

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Speaker 4: Not you know, if he was just raising money for Jets.

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Speaker 4: Thirty six million for America.

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Speaker 7: Lock the doors, lock the East.

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Speaker 6: The West, lay your money on the altar, lay on

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Speaker 2: Even if Sawis can get it wrong, and I think

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Speaker 1: Do not want the little short white guy down in Texas.

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Speaker 2: Now, I'm I'm gonna get in trouble for this, but

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Speaker 7: So nobody who stayed too long on your head and.

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Speaker 4: Then the people.

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Speaker 6: So I'm just like he said, you ain't messing up

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Speaker 7: I think you came have not learned that you're don't

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Speaker 4: All four of us Christians.

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Speaker 7: I'm just just whether what they wear, what they say.

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Speaker 2: Last thing you started it, Makari. But the only last

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Speaker 4: So I'm just inspecting the fruit.

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Speaker 2: So you know you are responsible for the fruit too

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Speaker 7: Don Tyler wrote the whole book about that.

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Speaker 4: Spirit in the Spirit of Catholics and episcopealions.

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Speaker 1: gonna let you toss to yours because this was a

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Speaker 1: great clip about our friend Robin.

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Speaker 6: Kelly absolutely representative the well no Robin Kelly Congress from

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Speaker 6: right now. But we you know, we believe it on God,

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Speaker 6: this is gonna be elevated position of the.

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Speaker 1: Brands.

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Speaker 6: You use it, all of us. So Robin Kelly has

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Speaker 6: decided that it is time for impeachment. And the person

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Speaker 6: that she's targeting for impeachment is not the orange one,

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Speaker 6: but rather his face fall off melted sister friend to

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Speaker 6: fold angry uh cowboy hat wearing Barbie Christy Nomes. She

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Speaker 6: says she should be impeached. And here's the clip.

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Speaker 10: Mister speaker, I rise today to announce I will be

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Speaker 10: impeaching Homeland Security Secretary Christie Nome. Secretary Nome has violated

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Speaker 10: the Constitution and she needs to be held accountable for

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Speaker 10: terrorizing our communities. Operation Midway Blitz has torn apart the

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Speaker 10: Chicago land area. President Trump declared war on Chicago, and

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Speaker 10: then he brought violence and destruction to our city and

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Speaker 10: our suburbs in the form of immigration enforcement. In my district,

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Speaker 10: federal agent repelled down from black Hawk helicopters and burst

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Speaker 10: into an apartment building in the South Shore area. They

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Speaker 10: drag us citizens and non citizens alike out of their

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Speaker 10: beds in the middle of the night. They claim the

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Speaker 10: apartment was infiltrated by members of a Venezuelan gang. I

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Speaker 10: don't understand this president's obsession with Venezuela, but they did

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Speaker 10: not arrest a single member from that gang.

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Speaker 1: She was a matter of fact, I want to know

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Speaker 1: what spoke to you about that clip, because you must

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Speaker 1: have just been watching watching Congress one day. But that

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Speaker 1: was powerful. And we always talk about people doing the work,

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Speaker 1: and I think that although I'm not a huge fan

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Speaker 1: of putting another impeachment resolution about Donald Trump, I do

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Speaker 1: get a however, whatever anyway.

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Speaker 4: I do think they definitely need to have on this show.

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Speaker 1: We were to have it next time. Anyway, I do

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Speaker 1: think that this impeachment, bringing her in front of that's

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Speaker 1: why this selection is so important, bringing her in front

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Speaker 1: of oversight, talking about the things that she did. I

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Speaker 1: think it's so important because the DHS is running by yeah, and.

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Speaker 6: The thing that I noted about that she went on

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Speaker 6: obviously to talk about Renee Goods murder in Minneapolis, but

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Speaker 6: I really wanted to focus on the part about the

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Speaker 6: ice agents repelling onto that apartment building in Chicago, as

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Speaker 6: She pointed out, if they were there to supposedly get

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Speaker 6: members of Trend de Aragua, this narco terrorist gang that

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Speaker 6: they that were supposedly at war with, they didn't arrest

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Speaker 6: a single person in charge them with being a part

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Speaker 6: of that gang. There were no arrests regarding gang activity

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Speaker 6: or terrorism. But what they did do, and she pointed

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Speaker 6: this out, was film the entire encounter and release that

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Speaker 6: footage as like a promo video, like an episode of cops.

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Speaker 6: What people need to understand, as y'all are listening to

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Speaker 6: this podcast, ICE is not necessarily arresting more people than

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Speaker 6: Biden than during the Biden or Obama administration, just doing

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Speaker 6: it more publicly. They're doing it more theatrically. They're sending

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Speaker 6: more people to private detention, which is enriching private detention

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Speaker 6: companies like Geogroup, who gave money to Trump, and they're

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Speaker 6: doing the theatrics and cruelty of the process more than they're

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Speaker 6: actually arresting people for crimes. They're not finding criminals repelling

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Speaker 6: onto their apartments, extracting them and charging them in most cases,

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Speaker 6: they're holding them in ICE detention, making money for these

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Speaker 6: private prison operators who are getting record sums and whose

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Speaker 6: stocks are skyrocketing, and then they're releasing them. Where are

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Speaker 6: the prosecutions of supposed narco terrists? This is all theatrics.

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Speaker 6: It's designed to distract from the Epstein files. It's designed

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Speaker 6: to tell Trump's base that he's keeping his promise of deportation,

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Speaker 6: and to show videos of the cruelty. The cruelty is

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Speaker 6: literally the point.

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Speaker 1: That's right, And I think we have to remember that

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Speaker 1: ICE was founded in two thousand and one, right. ICE

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Speaker 1: is not an age old federal agency that we're accustomed to.

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Speaker 1: And I think that even the mission, we can argue

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Speaker 1: over that mission, some people agree, some people don't agree,

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Speaker 1: but at one point served a purpose. We can argue

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Speaker 1: that point. But I think that regardless of how you

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Speaker 1: feel about that, even just an amish that I pronounced

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Speaker 1: this last right amash amos As has come around to

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Speaker 1: say that it has so diverged away from its original

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Speaker 1: mission and purpose, which you can agree or disagree was whatever,

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Speaker 1: that now ICE has no place in American society. And

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Speaker 1: I think that a lot of people, from Joe Rogan

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Speaker 1: to justin Homage to even libertarians are coming to say

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Speaker 1: it's like the Gestapo in the middle of the street. Really,

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Speaker 1: what are they doing? And is this what America should

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Speaker 1: look like?

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Speaker 7: Not to mention their budget to be so irrelevant, is

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Speaker 7: larger than what the Navy is that the latest they.

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Speaker 1: Have a badget.

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Speaker 4: I didn't know that.

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Speaker 7: Larger than the unit of the Armed Services, one of

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Speaker 7: the units of the Armed Services charged with protecting the peace, safety,

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Speaker 7: security of the United States and all of its interest

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Speaker 7: and assets around the world. I mean, Donald Trump has

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Speaker 7: gotten out of this group exactly what he has always

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Speaker 7: intended his own police force. And they are taking their

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Speaker 7: instructions from the top, which is why they are so

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Speaker 7: rickety everywhere they go. You know how they say, your

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Speaker 7: slip is showing. Everything is showing about these folks because

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Speaker 7: they have one mission, and that is to serve Donald Trump.

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Speaker 7: And I will tell you, y'all, we got to be

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Speaker 7: We're gonna have to be fierce and serious and intentional

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Speaker 7: about our takedown of this organization which just had his

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Speaker 7: budget doubled and one year and the big bad ugly

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Speaker 7: bill that was passed by the Republicans proposed by Trump

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Speaker 7: so that this group doesn't become the group that tries

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Speaker 7: to keep us from ballot boxes either, in the midterms

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Speaker 7: or or in the general elections. And I don't mean

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Speaker 7: to throw that out to be sensational. I do believe

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Speaker 7: this man is building his own on m forces for

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Speaker 7: his purposes alone.

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Speaker 6: Amen.

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Speaker 2: I just looked up a headline Andrew to your point.

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Speaker 2: It says ICE is now richer than most of the

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Speaker 2: world's militaries thanks to Trump's new funding annual budget increase

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Speaker 2: from eight point seven billion to twenty seven point seven

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Speaker 2: billion over the summer. And they said was seventy five

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Speaker 2: billion dollars allocated to the agency over the next four years.

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Speaker 2: We're going to have that article in the show notes

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Speaker 2: for our viewers and our listeners to read.

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Speaker 1: I mean, but I just think that ICE. Let's talk

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Speaker 1: about it. I mean, let's flush this out a little bit,

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Speaker 1: because I know we didn't spend enough time on Renee

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Speaker 1: Good last week because of the timing of our taping. ICE.

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Speaker 1: They're still in Minnesota, They're still in American cities. I mean,

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Speaker 1: we had the National Guard in American cities. We're seeing them.

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Speaker 1: Ice even just the same day or a day later,

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Speaker 1: shot two individuals in the Great State of Oregon. And

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Speaker 1: then I get that one.

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Speaker 7: I have to make sure time.

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Speaker 1: Good, Thank you, I was deliberate. Thank you. And so

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Speaker 1: I think that we need to have a conversation about

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Speaker 1: I want to I want to talk on the issue

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Speaker 1: of law enforcement and tactics, but I wanted to hear

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Speaker 1: you all's thoughts about Renee good, what we're seeing in

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Speaker 1: Minnesota and that how the leadership is meeting this moment

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Speaker 1: or not.

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Speaker 7: Joy, you're gonna share what you trusted that that video, Oh.

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Speaker 4: There is the woman who was pulled out of the vehicle.

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Speaker 4: We do have that video.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, maybe we can start there.

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Speaker 1: Just so you know what we saw was, Yeah, they

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Speaker 1: arrested and they pulling not just black and brown folk,

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Speaker 1: but they pulling, They shooting white women in the face,

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Speaker 1: pulling them out the car. I don't know what he

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Speaker 1: was like.

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Speaker 7: This coman was Latino, but she also described herself as handicapped.

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Speaker 4: Yes, oh yeah, and.

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Speaker 1: She was on the way to it, and she was

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Speaker 1: on the way to a doctor's appointment. Just to give

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Speaker 1: full context that the people couldn't see it. They smashed

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Speaker 1: out her windows and drug her out the car. Joy

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Speaker 1: brought this to our attention. So, Joy, I want to

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Speaker 1: hear your just fifty thousand foot view of what we're

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Speaker 1: seeing and you know why we're seeing this and doesn't

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Speaker 1: have any tie into the fact that what did he

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Speaker 1: call the Somoli community garbage? Is that what he is?

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Speaker 1: That what he called him, He's.

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Speaker 6: Called him everything but a child of God? Yeah, garbage, criminals.

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Speaker 6: I mean, the reality is they're also, by the way,

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Speaker 6: attacking Indigenous people. Several tribal members have been picked up

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Speaker 6: by ice, which is about as ironic as it gets.

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Speaker 6: The colonizers dragging Indigenous people out of their cars and

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Speaker 6: attempting to call them quote unquote illegal. And so I

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Speaker 6: think what you're seeing now, I think to the point

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Speaker 6: that Andrew made is it's just terrorism. At this point,

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Speaker 6: they're trying to terrorize communities. They're going door to door

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Speaker 6: in states like Minnesel anyone who's in the street who

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Speaker 6: doesn't immediately jump when they say jump, they're dragging them

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Speaker 6: out of their cars, smashing their cars, driving their cars away,

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Speaker 6: which is car theft, kidnapping, people, grabbing people out of work.

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Speaker 6: If you're rude to them, they feel that they have

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Speaker 6: the right to push you, shove you, brutalize you to

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Speaker 6: try to get you to react so that they can

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Speaker 6: then charge you with what they've charged Lamonica mcgiver with

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Speaker 6: obstructing and attempting to make her into a criminal. We're

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Speaker 6: literally just witnessing. And I think Andrew called it right

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Speaker 6: is it is a gestapo? You know, even Joe Rogan

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Speaker 6: can be right once in a while. Because Trump has

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Speaker 6: his own paramilitary force. We don't know if these people

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Speaker 6: were former January sixth insurrectionists. Are they proud boys? They're

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Speaker 6: doing forty seven days of training in honor of Donald

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Speaker 6: Trump being the forty seventh president. They drop the amount

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Speaker 6: of training down from ninety days to forty seven days

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Speaker 6: in honor of Trump. It's a joke. They're not even

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Speaker 6: training them. And I will note, by the way, they're

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Speaker 6: getting ten thousand dollars signing bonuses, in some cases fifty

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Speaker 6: thousand dollars bonuses. They're earning between sixty and one hundred

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Speaker 6: thousand a year. In an economy where people can't get jobs,

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Speaker 6: they're leaving this as essentially the only job available and

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Speaker 6: heavily recruiting white men at gun shows and anywhere else

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Speaker 6: they think they can get them. And I'll lastly add

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Speaker 6: they're encouraging retired Border patrol people who left the Border

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Speaker 6: Patrol because they were dissatisfied with Biden's policies. They're recruiting

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Speaker 6: them back and giving them huge signing bonuses, and they're

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Speaker 6: forgiving their student loans. If the small percentage that have

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Speaker 6: college degrees, I.

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Speaker 1: Mind you just to give some Oh, I wanted to

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Speaker 1: just to give a clow context. Now. I thought of you.

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Speaker 1: Barbers and beauticians in most states have to have longer

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Speaker 1: than forty seven days of training than Ice does in

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Speaker 1: your local communities. I just wanted to throw that footnote

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Speaker 1: out there. I'm sorry, Angela, go ahead, No.

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Speaker 4: You're good.

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Speaker 2: I had my solo pod tape Tuesday, and I had

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Speaker 2: Rachelle Balilin, who's the sheriff from Philadelphia, who talked about

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Speaker 2: what will happen if Ice comes and tries to do

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Speaker 2: the same thing in her city. What I think is

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Speaker 2: important and is the coordination that needs to happen between

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Speaker 2: law enforcement agencies, local and state law enforcement agencies, and

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Speaker 2: the city attorney, the state's DA, you know, the district attorney.

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Speaker 2: It's really really important that these folks are all working

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Speaker 2: together state attorney General. We're seeing that happen in Minneapolis,

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Speaker 2: but we're also seeing where the mayor is currently saying

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Speaker 2: that ICE agents outnumber their law enforcement and so they're

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Speaker 2: not able to arrest them in ways that makes sense.

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Speaker 2: What rachelle Blau said on the show is that the

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Speaker 2: DA can still issue a warrant, right like, they can

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Speaker 2: still Yes, they can still issue a warrant for the

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Speaker 2: arrest of these ICE agents. The challenge on the back

657
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Speaker 2: end is we all know as these people are walking

658
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Speaker 2: around masked, which should not be the case. Congressman Jasmine

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Speaker 2: Crockett introduced legislation last year in twenty twenty five calling

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Speaker 2: for It's the Clear Act, calling for them to have

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Speaker 2: to be unmasked, and I think that is the least

662
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 2: they can do. Some of these people are faking as

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Speaker 2: if they're ICE agents, and I think that's another big piece.

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Speaker 2: So when all in all, I really want there to

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Speaker 2: be coordination with law enforcement. The thing that I think

666
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 2: is rich about this happening in Minneapolis is Joy brought

667
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 2: it up earlier.

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Speaker 4: This is the epicenter of the George Floyd murder and the.

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Speaker 2: Resulting protests, you know, the community unrest because people are like,

670
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Speaker 2: this is what Minneapolis Police department could do to one

671
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Speaker 2: of our own. This is also the epicenter of Filando

672
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Speaker 2: Casteele's murder, which happened, of course before George Floyd. And

673
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Speaker 2: we should not escape that the same people that this

674
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 2: community now needs to rely upon to overcome ICE are

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Speaker 2: the same folks who took the lives of black men

676
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Speaker 2: in our community. And so we have to wrestle with

677
00:35:56,360 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 2: the trauma that exists just holding that like, I need

678
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,439
Speaker 2: you to work with me now, and I'm barely trusting you.

679
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 2: And so somebody like put in the comments yesterday or

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Speaker 2: tuesday for the pod they said, well.

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Speaker 4: Now you trust law enforcement.

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Speaker 2: It's not that but this is all hands on deck approach,

683
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Speaker 2: and I need law enforcement to prove itself trustworthy. So

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Speaker 2: what does it look like to coordinate with the DA,

685
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:23,919
Speaker 2: to coordinate with the Attorney General to ensure that ICE

686
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 2: isn't running a MUK Because it was black men first,

687
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Speaker 2: Now it's a white woman who was shot in the face,

688
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Speaker 2: and now it's her wife that they're trying to place

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Speaker 2: under investigation by the FED. So if the FEDS want

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Speaker 2: to act above the law, that I need for the

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Speaker 2: states and for the cities and for counties to step

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Speaker 2: in and do what is the right thing to do?

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Speaker 7: With this, I shudder in some ways to think about

694
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Speaker 7: what kind of armed conflict can be created in communities

695
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Speaker 7: all around this country if the state, in the counties

696
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Speaker 7: and the cities were to ban together under their states leadership,

697
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Speaker 7: county and city leadership against federal agents who is already

698
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 7: know it's already said, are are are showing up military

699
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Speaker 7: style larger than the collective resources of of of security

700
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Speaker 7: a community can offer. I will you know, but Carl,

701
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Speaker 7: last week you said it was sort of tongue in cheek.

702
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Speaker 7: You know, you can tell a guy who's never been

703
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:18,320
Speaker 7: in a fight, you know, as a kid or otherwise,

704
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 7: these agents reek of of of of what it is

705
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:28,879
Speaker 7: to be dislike a not seen, ignored all throughout your

706
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:33,839
Speaker 7: middle high school time. Uh didn't they didn't you know,

707
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 7: all these things and now all of us, Yeah, someone

708
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Speaker 7: someone's in. And the lesson here isn't like being mean

709
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:47,759
Speaker 7: to people. It is actually embraced people see them, you know,

710
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Speaker 7: so that when they get the job that they think

711
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Speaker 7: is the most important thing they've ever done in their

712
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:53,839
Speaker 7: lives on earth, and now they've got the power of

713
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Speaker 7: God at their waist belt to take life. That that

714
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 7: that the abusiveness I can't. I can't. I can't shut

715
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Speaker 7: my eyes to the video that we showed earlier of

716
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 7: this woman who's one getting conflicting instructions from these guys.

717
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:10,360
Speaker 7: They're yelling and then they band together, almost like a gang.

718
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Speaker 7: There are no lanyards with their names swinging from their chests. No,

719
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 7: it is camouflage. Their faces are covered and with a

720
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Speaker 7: brief opening at the nose and at the eyes. This

721
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:26,839
Speaker 7: woman can't tell that these are law abiding citings, law enforcers,

722
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Speaker 7: or gangs who are trying to pull her out of

723
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Speaker 7: her car. And we're supposed to be respectful to people

724
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Speaker 7: who don't even have the dignity and self respect to

725
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Speaker 7: show up and show your goddamn face. Local law enforcement

726
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:41,959
Speaker 7: has to when they patrol in our cities. They can't

727
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 7: show up at your doorstep massless, with no name covering

728
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 7: it and refusing to tell you who they are. They

729
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:50,400
Speaker 7: must identify themselves, and if they haven't done it, you,

730
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Speaker 7: as a citizen, can compel them to do it. These guys,

731
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Speaker 7: if you ask them, they say, you have no right

732
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Speaker 7: to ask me anything. I'm gonna arrest you. They start

733
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 7: bullying you, ganging up on you. These guys aren't law

734
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Speaker 7: enforcement officials. These aren't trained season law enforcement officials. These

735
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Speaker 7: these folks are thugs, That's what they are. They're thus

736
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Speaker 7: and they're they're known by a different recognition than how

737
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Speaker 7: we normally call them. But it doesn't get more thuggish

738
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Speaker 7: than what they're doing and cowardly. And I would like

739
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 7: to see federal judges decide that law enforcement officials cannot

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Speaker 7: enter any place in this country with a masked face

741
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Speaker 7: and no name badge.

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Speaker 1: Let me just tell you why Andrew's point is so salient,

743
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Speaker 1: because you were your segue was just brilliant, because I

744
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 1: wanted to talk about the role of the federal government,

745
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Speaker 1: our court system, and the laws we have in place.

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Speaker 1: Because I wanted to quote jd. Vance who recently said

747
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Speaker 1: the president here is very simple. You have a federal

748
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 1: law enforcement officer engaging in federal law enforcement enforcement action.

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Speaker 1: That's a federal issue. That guy is protected by absolute immunity.

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Speaker 1: He was doing his job. Let me also tell you this,

751
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Speaker 1: that's a lie. That is not correct, That is not

752
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Speaker 1: the truth. That is nowhere near what the law states.

753
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Speaker 1: But we are having whether or not it's an ice agent,

754
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Speaker 1: or whether or not you are in the middle of

755
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Speaker 1: Williamsburg County, South Carolina, where I'm not sure they have

756
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Speaker 1: a traffic light and an officer shoots you. We're having

757
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Speaker 1: a serious, robust issue about qualified immunity in this country.

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Speaker 1: That's why elections are important. That's why these house seats

759
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Speaker 1: are so important, because, yes, qualified immunity is an issue.

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Speaker 1: That's also why he stood on the corner of the car.

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Speaker 1: That's also why that family, in all likelihood is going

762
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Speaker 1: to have a very difficult time recouping anything in a

763
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Speaker 1: civil settlement, because that officer is simply going to be

764
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Speaker 1: able to say that I believed, that's his words, I

765
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Speaker 1: reasonably believe that my life was in danger. That is

766
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Speaker 1: all they have to say. And qualified immunity is a

767
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Speaker 1: very real issue, and it's something that's coming to the

768
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Speaker 1: forefront when we're talking about issues like this. And I

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Speaker 1: just want the audience to understand that this good family,

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Speaker 1: there is a very high likelihood that like men black families,

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Speaker 1: like both of John for example, they will never see

772
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Speaker 1: any type of justice. They won't see justice criminally because

773
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Speaker 1: it's very difficult to prosecute these officers, and they won't

774
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Speaker 1: see justice civilly. But shot out to Larry Krassner, who

775
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 1: is the district attorney in the city of Philadelphia, who

776
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Speaker 1: simply said that if ICE agents come to his city

777
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Speaker 1: with masks on and they terrorize individuals, he is going

778
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Speaker 1: to prosecute those officers, those ICE agents to the fullest

779
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 1: extent of the law. He's going to make sure they

780
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Speaker 1: are and he's going to ask his city police officers

781
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Speaker 1: and county sheriff's deputies to arrest these ICE agents if

782
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Speaker 1: they violate the law in the city of Philadelphia. We

783
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Speaker 1: need more people on the state and local level to

784
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Speaker 1: take that as what Angela said, because right now, these

785
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Speaker 1: families that I represent, when we go out here in

786
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Speaker 1: courts and we spend five six weeks or five six

787
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Speaker 1: months excuse me, fighting for them in civil court, and

788
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Speaker 1: then they get a thrown out because they were shot

789
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Speaker 1: in the back five six times. But the officer said

790
00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:59,360
Speaker 1: he felt like his life was in danger. That is

791
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Speaker 1: indicative of what qualified immunity is, and I hope more

792
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Speaker 1: people are opening their eyes to it.

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Speaker 6: I can I just say though there is a precedent

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Speaker 6: in Minnesota. Though I'm sorry, Angela, go ahead, you go first.

795
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Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, no, go ahead.

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Speaker 6: It is that way, until it isn't that way, right,

797
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:18,319
Speaker 6: because Derek Chauvin and those other three officers were in

798
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Speaker 6: the course of doing their duties and still wounds up

799
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Speaker 6: getting prosecuted. And there was a gentleman named Mohammed Noir.

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Speaker 6: I believe it's.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Mohammed Noir. He shot the white woman. Yeah, And

802
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 1: they gave the white woman twenty million dollars.

803
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Speaker 6: And they gave her twenty million dollars. So I would

804
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Speaker 6: say that the good family probably has a good case

805
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Speaker 6: because this officer. The other thing, JD. Vance said. He said,

806
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Speaker 6: this officer was traumatized by previously being dragged by a car,

807
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Speaker 6: meaning I'm sorry, why was he not only in the

808
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 6: field but also the leader of that team. This is

809
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Speaker 6: a guy who's been on the four since about twenty fifteen,

810
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Speaker 6: so he's experienced. But Jadie Vance said publicly he was traumatized,

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Speaker 6: So why was he even out there at all? Number two,

812
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Speaker 6: he seemed to be non fearful enough to take his

813
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:09,720
Speaker 6: cell phone video tape the entire interaction, then switch hands,

814
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Speaker 6: put the phone in the other hand so he could

815
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Speaker 6: draw his gun and shoot her in the phase three

816
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Speaker 6: times and then walk away scamper off like he wasn't

817
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Speaker 6: injured at all and call her in f and B

818
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Speaker 6: on his own recording and then leak that recording to

819
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Speaker 6: Alpha News or right wing news outlet. He seemed to

820
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 6: have presence of mind that he'd done something wrong. He

821
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 6: leaked the recording to try to save himself. Why does

822
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Speaker 6: he is he raising a GoFundMe for his legal defense

823
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Speaker 6: if he doesn't think he's got a legal problem. So

824
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Speaker 6: I think there's qualified immunity that you think you have,

825
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 6: and then there's what you really need to face in

826
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Speaker 6: the law, either at the state or federal level. I

827
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Speaker 6: think justice is coming from mister Ross.

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Speaker 3: Events.

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Speaker 1: I pray that I'm wrong, I really do. And I've

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Speaker 1: been jaded by just going taking these families into these

831
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Speaker 1: courthouses and losing these cases on qualified immunity. So I

832
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Speaker 1: pray that I'm wrong, and I pray that the good family.

833
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Speaker 1: But Mohammed Nuur is a perfect example of how justice

834
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Speaker 1: ain't just because. Mohammed Nuur, for those who who don't know,

835
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Speaker 1: was a Somali American police officer, law enforcement officer, and

836
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Speaker 1: he shot a white woman, and mind you, it was

837
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 1: bad policing, but there was no true fight. He was

838
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Speaker 1: arrested immediately, he got sentenced to twenty years, ended up,

839
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Speaker 1: if I recall correctly, ended up appealing that and serving

840
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Speaker 1: fifty seven months. He's out of jail now if I

841
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:22,799
Speaker 1: think I remember that right, and the family sued and

842
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 1: settled for twenty million dollars compared at to both of John.

843
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Speaker 1: His family will never see a dollar a dollar, the

844
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Speaker 1: both of them. John family won't see a dollar. And

845
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Speaker 1: he was sitting in his house eating ice cream when

846
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Speaker 1: a white woman busting his door and shot him dead.

847
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Speaker 1: So I pray that justice is just for the good family.

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Speaker 1: And it might be she's a white woman. We'll see.

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Speaker 2: I do want to just offer our condolences to her family.

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Speaker 2: This is a thirty seven year old mother of three

851
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Speaker 2: children who was shot and killed trying to protect your community.

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Speaker 2: As we've witnessed a lot of Minneapolis residents doing what

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Speaker 2: I think is also important.

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Speaker 4: I want to draw our attention.

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Speaker 2: There was a graphic that the Department of Homeland Security

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Speaker 2: did put up in a collaboration with the White House,

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Speaker 2: and it will have our home again if you watch,

858
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Speaker 2: if you go to Instagram, this song plays. But apparently

859
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 2: this is a neo Nazi like anthem. Now, if you

860
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 2: play this song, it's by God will have our Home Again.

861
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Speaker 2: And I just would like to remind white people everywhere

862
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Speaker 2: that this in fact was not your home first. It

863
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 2: might be now because people were welcoming of you, and

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Speaker 2: perhaps you can tap into that just a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Canada also has a page up hate Opedia and they

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Speaker 2: talk about what by God will have Our Home Again

867
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Speaker 2: means to a number of neo Nazi organizations, and yet

868
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Speaker 2: the Nazis seem to be taken over our federal government.

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Speaker 4: So that's that.

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Speaker 2: On that, I would like to just show y'all one

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Speaker 2: more thing on a slightly lighter note.

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Speaker 1: One second before we go to slightly lighter, can we

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Speaker 1: do one more thing? Because we started with her, and

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Speaker 1: I'd like to end with her, because Andrew brought up

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Speaker 1: a good point that Christy Nome, you can tell that

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Speaker 1: she's been elected a few times, you can tell that

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Speaker 1: she's served, you can tell that she's actually the consummate

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Speaker 1: politician for all the negative attributes that may mean. I

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Speaker 1: wanted to play the Christy Nome clip from Jake Tapper's

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Speaker 1: interview and how she stays on message and you can

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Speaker 1: see that's the message shit. That is what the message is.

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Speaker 1: So can we play the clip from Jake Tapper and

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Speaker 1: Christy Nome this weekend, just a little snippet of it.

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Speaker 13: I want to ask a question about the rules of

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Speaker 13: how law enforcement is allowed to engage when feeling threatened.

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Speaker 13: Per your assertions, what is the appropriate response for the

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Speaker 13: police officers in this situation?

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Speaker 3: Those are law.

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Speaker 13: Enforcement officers being physically attacked. By this standard, would any

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Speaker 13: of those officers being justified and shooting and killing the

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Speaker 13: people causing them physical harm?

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Speaker 14: A single situation is going to rely on the situation

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Speaker 14: those officers are on. That they know that when people

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Speaker 14: are putting hands on them, when they are using weapons

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Speaker 14: against them, when they are physically harming them, that they

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Speaker 14: have the authority to arrest those individuals.

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Speaker 13: President every single one of those peoples.

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Speaker 14: And make sure that they're getting justice for their actions

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Speaker 14: going forward.

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Speaker 13: President Trump partoned every single one of those every.

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Speaker 14: Single one of these investigations comes in the full context

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Speaker 14: of the situation on the ground. And that's one thing

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Speaker 14: that President Trump has been so focused on is making

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Speaker 14: sure that when we're out there, we don't pick and

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Speaker 14: choose which situations are and which laws are enforced and

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Speaker 14: which ones aren't. Every single one of them is being

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Speaker 14: enforced under the Trump administration.

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Speaker 13: I just showed you video of people attacking law enforcement officers,

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Speaker 13: and I just said President Trump pardoned all of them.

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Speaker 13: And you said that President Trump is enforcing all the

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Speaker 13: laws equally. It's just not true. There's a different standard

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Speaker 13: for law enforcement officials being act if they're being attacked

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Speaker 13: by Trump supporters.

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Speaker 1: We just saw them.

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Speaker 7: There's no difference in standard. The issue is man. She

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Speaker 7: just crystallized the phrase that I've heard so often. You

917
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Speaker 7: can tell a person's lying because their mouth is moving,

918
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Speaker 7: like I've heard that a lot before, and I understood

919
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Speaker 7: the context of it, but it's never been more true.

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Speaker 7: This is a woman who, without any situation or awareness

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Speaker 7: analysis debriefing, got up and called this woman a domestic

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Speaker 7: terror terrorist and carried on around a scenario that she

923
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Speaker 7: clearly did not observe herself, because she made it up

924
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Speaker 7: in her head as she was talking. She is dangerous.

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Speaker 7: I made jokes about her in the Centerfold and how

926
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Speaker 7: she comes into character, you know, at every different press

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Speaker 7: conference and so on and so forth. But she's a

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Speaker 7: very very dangerous person because ignorance is not a it's

929
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Speaker 7: not a negative. Is it doesn't subtract from her her ignorance.

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Speaker 7: She is what my English teacher in high school used

931
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Speaker 7: to call vain glorious in it, it's to be vain

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Speaker 7: and to bask while while being so vain, right, so

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Speaker 7: so Bakari on steroids, right, vain glorious, to be vain one,

934
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Speaker 7: But I had to hit you.

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Speaker 1: But but if you.

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Speaker 7: Swag it fan, you know at our response, y'all have it.

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Speaker 7: But all I'm saying is that for someone to be

938
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Speaker 7: so uninformed, so ignorant, but so willfully ignorant, and I'll

939
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Speaker 7: here commanding the size of employment, employment that she commands

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Speaker 7: more than majority of militaries in the world, and to

941
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Speaker 7: be so goddamn dumb and happy as dumb is incredible

942
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Speaker 7: and extremely dangerous.

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Speaker 1: It also shows you the level of mediocrity can just

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Speaker 1: white media came in on to. I mean, I try

945
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Speaker 1: to use that with with Barack Obama and Donald Trump. Right,

946
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Speaker 1: you think about Barack Obama had to be he was

947
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Speaker 1: editor in chief of the Law Review. And let me

948
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Speaker 1: just tell you that you got to be you were

949
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Speaker 1: you editor in chief because I know.

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Speaker 15: One of us names together, but you have to be

951
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Speaker 15: the top tink anybody sintilla all the way up there

952
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Speaker 15: to be president of the United States.

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Speaker 1: And Donald Trump's able to fall into that. Look at

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Speaker 1: look at Secretary of Austin for example, and everything that

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Speaker 1: he had to do, and all of his accomplishments in

956
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Speaker 1: the military and honorable accomplishments, and Pete Hesketh. I mean,

957
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Speaker 1: you just look at at Jay Johnson.

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Speaker 7: And then all of the criteria for nearly every one

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Speaker 7: of them.

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Speaker 1: She shot her dog. She shot her own dog, okay.

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Speaker 6: And she was barred from the indigenous tribes in her

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Speaker 6: own state when she was a Sorry, go ahead, angel.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead, you guys.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate this deep dive on CHRISTINOAM and Barack Obama

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Speaker 2: and Donald Trump, but I have something really important. Let

966
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Speaker 2: me tell you what happens when White Ice comes up

967
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Speaker 2: against Black Ice.

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Speaker 4: Let's please rolle this clip.

969
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Speaker 7: On the guy.

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00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:25,360
Speaker 6: I can do it.

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Speaker 2: You don't see this in the full clip. We cut

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Speaker 2: it pretty quickly. But he's he's running towards somebody who

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Speaker 2: is escalating the situation. And then the Ice agent comes

974
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Speaker 2: across Black Ice.

975
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Speaker 4: He still he running full speed on that Black.

976
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Speaker 2: Ice bus is behind, gets up and does the onet eighty.

977
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Speaker 2: He gets he gets sent right back to the black

978
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Speaker 2: SUVD eight and spent all your taxpair dollars on. But

979
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Speaker 2: I just love the fact that he thought he was

980
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Speaker 2: gonna run up on somebody and that black ice run

981
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Speaker 2: up on his ead.

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Speaker 4: I loved it.

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Speaker 6: And this is why we give to the church. But

984
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Speaker 6: when they wear it, Christian Lupata.

985
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Speaker 4: The doors of the church are now open. So is off.

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Speaker 7: Bless you when you least expected.

987
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Speaker 1: I didn't want you to know that hurt. That hurt

988
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Speaker 1: because he got it like it didn't hurt.

989
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 2: He pure adrenaline and humiliation. But he let me tell you,

990
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Speaker 2: I love Nick. Can you run it one more time?

991
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Speaker 2: Just start one more time?

992
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:22,800
Speaker 4: But a couple of seconds.

993
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Speaker 2: You know they've been please, you know, hurting each other

994
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 2: and hitting each other, doing all kind of put downs

995
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 2: on the show Nick of maybe Nick won't.

996
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:29,799
Speaker 4: Run it again.

997
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 2: There it goes, here goes one more time, you kind

998
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:34,400
Speaker 2: of here go.

999
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Speaker 4: We need to put that in slow motion.

1000
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Speaker 2: Isn't there a closer up version, a closer up version.

1001
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Speaker 1: Calling them all types of names? My version is came't

1002
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:46,480
Speaker 1: here to get us unrated.

1003
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Speaker 2: I mean, you guys cuss on here.

1004
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:57,319
Speaker 7: They deserve come uppings come up much worse, right, I

1005
00:52:57,360 --> 00:53:00,400
Speaker 7: mean the accountability that has to be had for this

1006
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 7: out of control a component of our government. I mean

1007
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:07,640
Speaker 7: the laundry lists for if Democrats are fortunate to gain

1008
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:11,279
Speaker 7: power again, the laundry list of the stuff they must

1009
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Speaker 7: the wheels they must break. Listen, I stay, I stay,

1010
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:23,400
Speaker 7: consciously under expectant of anything.

1011
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Speaker 1: We got a little bit of time on this, on

1012
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Speaker 1: this segment before we don't.

1013
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 4: We don't, we don't. We got to do cause to action,

1014
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:29,879
Speaker 4: and I and.

1015
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Speaker 1: I got our action ain't gonna take ten minutes, I know,

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Speaker 1: but we also have.

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Speaker 7: My call to action is that, yes, there's a lot

1018
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 7: of misery out there, but there are also some rays

1019
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:45,880
Speaker 7: of hope when we see white men and white women

1020
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:50,839
Speaker 7: and brown skin and black folks standing up in Chicago

1021
00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 7: and in New York, and in Pennsylvania and in Oregon

1022
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Speaker 7: and in Washington State and in Minnesota. People who ain't

1023
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:03,319
Speaker 7: never been to a protest in their life, who went

1024
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 7: on camera, who gave interviews saying they did test protests

1025
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Speaker 7: and thought it was a useful, wasteful bit of time

1026
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:11,480
Speaker 7: for people who did it, said they didn't know what

1027
00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:14,799
Speaker 7: else to do to show their outrage and discuss the

1028
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 7: disappointment in the country that they thought they had.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 7: I ain't asked them who they voted for for president,

1031
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 7: but all this stuff comes full circle their consequences for

1032
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:27,440
Speaker 7: this thing, and it just really sucks that the people

1033
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:29,319
Speaker 7: who voted for the man can't be the ones who

1034
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 7: experiences consequences. I ain't vote for him, right, but we

1035
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:37,080
Speaker 7: all have to experience those consequences. But I'm thankful to

1036
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:39,480
Speaker 7: the people who are showing up, who are shouting these

1037
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Speaker 7: people down, who are shrouding people who are being harassed,

1038
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:49,360
Speaker 7: and hugs and circles with hands held to keep them safe.

1039
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Speaker 7: There have been huge outpourings of this all around the country,

1040
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Speaker 7: and I don't think we'd give it enough appreciation for

1041
00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 7: those who are showing up and doing it. The people

1042
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Speaker 7: are went in.

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Speaker 4: A native Land pod.

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Speaker 16: My name is Beverly Dines, and I am a chief

1045
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Speaker 16: operating officer and your chief empowerment officer based in Chicago.

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Speaker 16: If you are in Minnesota, or somebody that you love

1047
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Speaker 16: is in Minnesota and you have just losted or snap benefits,

1048
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Speaker 16: here's one way that you can get access to resources

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Speaker 16: and free meals that you may not realize. On January tenth,

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Speaker 16: the USDA announced that they are cutting SNAP benefits effective

1051
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Speaker 16: immediately for the state of Minnesota. Now they're saying they're

1052
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Speaker 16: doing it in response to a large scale fraud investigation.

1053
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Speaker 16: By taking away Minnesota's access to food. This is not policy,

1054
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Speaker 16: it's retaliation, and it's targeting the most vulnerable people in Minnesota.

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Speaker 16: So today's resource is called Loaves and Fishes Minnesota. Loaves

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Speaker 16: and Fishes Minnesota has been supporting and serving the Twin

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Speaker 16: Cities communities for over forty years, providing meals and support

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Speaker 16: to anyone who needs it, no questions asked, no qualifications required.

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Speaker 16: Here's how you can get access to a free meal

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Speaker 16: near you. On their website, you'll find their meal service

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Speaker 16: locations in times and their foodshelf information, as well as

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Speaker 16: how to get connected to other community resources. They serve

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Speaker 16: thousands of meals every single day, and all you have

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Speaker 16: to do is click on their food distribution list and

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Speaker 16: you can find a location near you, or at least

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Speaker 16: one that is in a drivable distance to you. They

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Speaker 16: serve thousands of meals every single day to people experiencing homelessness,

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Speaker 16: families facing food and security seniors, unlimited incomes, and anyone

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Speaker 16: who is hungry.

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Speaker 4: Cloves and Fishes operates.

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Speaker 16: Due to a dedicated community of donors and volunteers. So

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Speaker 16: even if you do not need this resource, or you

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Speaker 16: do not live in Minnesota, please consider volunteering your time

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Speaker 16: or donating to any of the participating locations as they

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Speaker 16: work to feed Minnesota's who are going to be impacted

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Speaker 16: by this. When the government uses food as a weapon,

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Speaker 16: community becomes the solution. As a reminder, as I've said

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Speaker 16: in many other of my videos, that benefit recipients are diverse.

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Speaker 4: They are folks who are otherwise able.

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Speaker 16: are people who are actively working. Please share, Share, Share

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Speaker 16: comment below if this resource is helpful, and let's keep

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Speaker 16: getting to work.

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Speaker 2: Nobody knows well we have a viewers share someone who

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Speaker 2: is near and dear to this show. Garland Gilchrist sent

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Speaker 2: a video in off of his latest news, So let's

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Speaker 2: go ahead and take a.

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Speaker 17: Lot a Native Lampard family, Lieutenant Governor Garland gil Chris

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Speaker 17: and Michigan.

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Speaker 3: Happy New Year, y'all.

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Speaker 17: Tiff Andrew baccari I continue to respect and appreciate what

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Speaker 17: y'all building by. Angela reached out to me because she

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Speaker 17: wanted to understand what was going on because I made

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Speaker 17: some news this week. You know, I made the decision

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Speaker 17: to suspend my campaign and be the next governor of Michigan.

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Speaker 3: But I'm not leaving the fight.

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Speaker 17: There's so much important work that has to be done,

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Speaker 17: not only in Michigan but in America, yo. And that's

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Speaker 17: why on Monday I now said I'm gonna be running

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Speaker 17: for Secretary of State of Michigan to open the doorway

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Speaker 17: to democracy.

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Speaker 3: Why for the people in the state that matters, yo.

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Speaker 17: That comes from the conversations that I have all over

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Speaker 17: Michigan this year and for the last seven years that

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Speaker 17: I've been in service, people screaming about how expensive everything is,

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Speaker 17: but also saying that, you know what, if we can't

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Speaker 17: vote and trust it, if we can't vote and make

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Speaker 17: that vote count, if Donald Trump destroys this democracy and

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Speaker 17: voting process, then we can't vote in people to hold

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Speaker 17: these corporations accountable. We can't vote in people to protect

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Speaker 17: our environment. We can't vote in people to get the

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Speaker 17: money out of politics. And you know what, the first

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Speaker 17: time I ran for office. I ran to being a

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Speaker 17: lession administrator in twenty seventeen. That's something that's near and

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Speaker 17: deer to my heart. I'm worried about the challenge for

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Speaker 17: the voting right sack that could come down in any

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Speaker 17: minute and be the final knife in the heart of

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Speaker 17: that important legislation that gave my grandparents, my parents, and

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Speaker 17: me the right to vote.

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Speaker 3: We got to protect and defend that.

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Speaker 17: So I'm using every skill I have as an engineer,

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Speaker 17: an entrepreneur, a problem solver, as systems builder that makes

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Speaker 17: things work for people to apply that to the democratic

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Speaker 17: process here in Michigan. And I think if we get

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Speaker 17: to write in Michigan will get it right everywhere. So

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Speaker 17: appreciate y'all always looking out for me. We got work

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Speaker 17: to do, and I'm asking people to go to Garland

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Speaker 17: coqurs dot com and support me to be Michigan's next

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Speaker 17: Secretary of State.

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Speaker 3: My eyes are still on the prize.

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Speaker 17: I want to be the governor one day, but let's

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Speaker 17: be secretary of state in twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 3: Thanks y'all stands hall.

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Speaker 1: I love Garland, but I you know, elected officials in

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Speaker 1: self awareness is keen. I don't know anybody who said,

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm going to be governor and then like

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, oh, I want to go protect

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Speaker 1: election integrity. I want to know what I want to know,

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Speaker 1: Like if you could be governor, you be governor. I

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Speaker 1: mean I understand. I'm as we hang up and figure

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Speaker 1: out what's going on, I want to tol you.

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Speaker 7: That's where his heart toward public service began was in

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Speaker 7: making sure people had access to the ballot box. I

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Speaker 7: have always found Garland to be one genuine but suspect

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Speaker 7: for him all around and also always always striving, whether

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Speaker 7: it's in conflict or in you know, in solidarity and peace.

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Speaker 7: The brother goes the extra model to try to understand.

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Speaker 1: The whatever that is.

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Speaker 7: And most politicians I know keep it moving. They can

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Speaker 7: give you a good job.

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Speaker 3: I love, but.

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Speaker 2: You got you guys, If you can allow joy to

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Speaker 2: say something before we bring on our guests, that would

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Speaker 2: be great. It's a lot of back. It was supposed

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Speaker 2: to be quick, friends. Let's go, Joey, what you got

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Speaker 2: real quick? I'll be real quick. God bless anybody who

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Speaker 2: stands for public service. And I just hope if you're

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Speaker 2: getting in it, you're getting in it. To actually do

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Speaker 2: something serious and not just talk. We got to do

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Speaker 2: something about these people, not just talk about them.

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Speaker 3: That's right.

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Speaker 2: I just would like to remind Garland Gill Chris that

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Speaker 2: on this here show when uh governor almost called her Whitfield,

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Speaker 2: that's not her name, Governor Whitmer, Jesus, I was like,

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Speaker 2: I'm struggling. When Governor whit Whitmer came on here, we

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Speaker 2: lit her up about why she didn't endorse you, and

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Speaker 2: now we got to ask her about secretary of State.

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Speaker 2: So I'm in my feelings, in my feelings about it,

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Speaker 2: but you know, we wish you the best and whatever

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Speaker 2: you do, Garland. And obviously elections need to be protected

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Speaker 2: because your president is out here snatching congressional districts, voter

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Speaker 2: id early voting usps, postmarks and all the rest.

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Speaker 4: So with that, his.

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Speaker 7: Biggest regret was not seizing the voting machines, and that's

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Speaker 7: what he said.

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Speaker 6: And what the paramilitary force. Now, that's right.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And with that, Bakari, we have somebody specially I

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Speaker 4: know you want to bring on. Let's go ahead and

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Speaker 4: do that.

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Speaker 1: No, I'm gonna let you in she part of your care.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna let you, and I'm gonna let you and

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Speaker 1: I enjoy handle that introduction.

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Speaker 4: She's part of all of our crew.

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Speaker 1: She is part of our crew. But but she is

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Speaker 1: she a machete. I don't know, I don't know know,

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Speaker 1: but she's she.

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Speaker 2: We love her nonetheless, the creator, the creator of the

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Speaker 2: very important historic award winning sixteen nineteen project, A sister

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Speaker 2: who fights for us when we see it and when

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Speaker 2: we don't. This is none other than Nicole Hannah Jones,

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Speaker 2: who's joining us day to talk about Trump's attack on

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Speaker 2: civil rights because Donald Trump and we should put that

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Speaker 2: headline up, has said that civil rights were very bad

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Speaker 2: for the whites, and I'm sure Nicole Hannah Jones has

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Speaker 2: some things to say about this. They were very badly

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Speaker 2: treated as a result of civil rights. Nicole said, surprise,

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Speaker 2: not surprised, y'all you should have been paying attention.

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Speaker 4: Hey says how you doing?

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Speaker 18: Hey, Hey, how are y'all good?

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Speaker 1: Welcome home, welcome.

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Speaker 18: Home, thank you.

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Speaker 19: I'm just gonna say that that felt like some subtle

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Speaker 19: shade Bakari. But andrews, thank you for welcome.

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Speaker 4: I got Nicole.

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Speaker 1: He literally.

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Speaker 4: It's never said.

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Speaker 2: When he joined the show, he said that we needed

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Speaker 2: a Beyonce and there's a Farah in here somewhere. On

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Speaker 2: tips last day, he told her that she was Fairris.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know.

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Speaker 7: He loves.

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Speaker 1: I love y'all, law I love you. I love y'all.

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Speaker 7: Law.

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Speaker 1: I do want to hear your take, though, because I

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Speaker 1: know that I know that there is this sentiment that

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Speaker 1: we we I think the five of us can honestly

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Speaker 1: say we told y'all this was going to be the case.

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Speaker 1: I mean we You know, if it walks like a

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Speaker 1: racist and quacks like a racist, it probably is a racist.

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Speaker 1: And you know, back in the day on seeing it,

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Speaker 1: and I got in trouble for saying that Donald Trump

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Speaker 1: uses racism as political currency. I didn't even call him a.

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Speaker 4: Racists and got in trouble me too.

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Speaker 7: You should have said the racist think he's a racist.

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Speaker 1: Debaters, tell me, tell me what's your analysis of this

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Speaker 1: new uh new truth telling that Donald Trump is doing well.

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Speaker 19: Donald Trump is not doing new truth telling, but all

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Speaker 19: of a sudden people are recognizing and taking him at

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Speaker 19: his word for what he's saying.

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Speaker 18: I mean.

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Speaker 19: What I've read this a couple of times now where

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Speaker 19: people are saying, oh that the Wokes were they were right.

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Speaker 19: They were just prematurely right, which is an insane thing

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Speaker 19: to say. Right, is that, you know, even though we

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Speaker 19: were trying to warn people that this is who Donald

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Speaker 19: Trump was, this is this is where the Republican Party

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Speaker 19: was going, that his election was not about economic anxiety

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Speaker 19: but demographic anxiety. We were dismissed, often by our own colleagues,

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Speaker 19: by the people who were moderate, and also frankly by

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Speaker 19: people who have not spent any serious time studying the

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Speaker 19: history of this country, in the history of race in

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Speaker 19: this country, and those of us who have studied it. Right,

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Speaker 19: we're not just basing this off of our lived experience,

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Speaker 19: like we researched this, we have gained an expertise. We

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Speaker 19: were dismissed by people who were just going on vibes, right,

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Speaker 19: like white vibes. So it doesn't it doesn't feel good

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Speaker 19: to be right. We're in a terrible place in this country.

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Speaker 19: But I do want some acknowledgement that folks tried to

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Speaker 19: tell you. We wrote about it, we talked about it,

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Speaker 19: we lectured about it. When we were cast off as biased,

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Speaker 19: as hyperbolic, as hysterical. So the other days, you know,

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Speaker 19: I posted a piece I wrote literally a decade ago

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Speaker 19: when Donald Trump was elected the first time, and we

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Speaker 19: were told that because some white voters had voted for

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Speaker 19: Obama that it couldn't have had anything to do with race.

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Speaker 19: And once again we're like, you don't know your country.

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Speaker 19: You're reporting on your country, you're trying to help people

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Speaker 19: understand their country when you don't understand it yourself. So

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Speaker 19: how I feel is, I don't even want to say

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Speaker 19: I felt vindicated because we knew we were right. We

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Speaker 19: knew we were right because they know what we were

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Speaker 19: saying on our understanding of actually having studied and gained

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Speaker 19: it for Tea's in the country.

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Speaker 7: Professor, I'm sorry I had to have interrupted. I just

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Speaker 7: didn't they know too. I mean, this is not a revelation.

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Speaker 7: It can't be a revelation for anybody, including white folk,

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Speaker 7: that there were things they were willing to walk past

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Speaker 7: and sake of a thing greater that they wanted. You know,

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Speaker 7: clearly it wasn't going to be to their detriment. They

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Speaker 7: had determined that in their own mind's eye, right that Okay, well,

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Speaker 7: it ain't the thing that I'm going out and saying

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Speaker 7: at work tomorrow. But if he want to do it,

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Speaker 7: you know, let it be and I'll hold my nose,

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Speaker 7: is what I'm telling my friends, because he's not so

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Speaker 7: toxic as Hillary Clinton or whatever the thing was they

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Speaker 7: were saying about her. Just to me, it doesn't seem

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Speaker 7: like this is a moment where we're like, we told

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Speaker 7: you so it is. We told you, then we're telling

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Speaker 7: you again. Now y'all heard us, and you knew it.

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Speaker 7: Then you've just walked past it.

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Speaker 19: I think it's some of both. Certainly, there's a large

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Speaker 19: perhaps most of white Americans, a large percentage, maybe even

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Speaker 19: more than half, who knew exactly who Donald Trump was,

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Speaker 19: and he was speaking to them. And in that piece

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Speaker 19: I wrote ten years ago, I talked to some of them.

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Speaker 19: You know, they're like, oh, it was liberating. This is

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Speaker 19: what we've always felt. We felt like, you know, Obama

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Speaker 19: in the White House was supposed to make it so

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Speaker 19: we never had to talk about race again. And you're

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Speaker 19: complaining about Trayvon Martin and there's a black man in

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Speaker 19: the White House.

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Speaker 18: We don't want to hear about it anymore.

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Speaker 19: And here comes Trump and he's saying all the things

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Speaker 19: that we now because of the civil rights movement, because

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Speaker 19: of efforts to pretend we were a more racially egalitarian society.

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Speaker 19: It was no longer acceptable to say these things in

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Speaker 19: civil society, and then Trump was saying them. So there

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Speaker 19: is a large population that felt liberated by that. But

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Speaker 19: I also think there's a significant population that, frankly was

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Speaker 19: in denial that unless he was out there saying the

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Speaker 19: N word every single day, they wanted to pretend that

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Speaker 19: not only was he not racist, but that you know,

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Speaker 19: he's just a buffoon when he says he wants to

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Speaker 19: run again in twenty twenty eight, he's just joking. He's

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Speaker 19: not to be taken seriously. Or they also were in

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Speaker 19: denial about how many folks were willing, like who didn't

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Speaker 19: actually believe in democracy in the first place. I think

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Speaker 19: they actually thought all of these old guards believed in democracy.

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Speaker 19: They drank that kool aid, and when we were saying, no,

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Speaker 19: this is actually going to be attack on democracy, I

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Speaker 19: don't think a lot of people took it seriously.

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Speaker 18: I don't think they believed it.

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Speaker 19: So I think what we have is this convergence of

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Speaker 19: both of those things. And now you have folks, I mean,

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Speaker 19: Joe Rogan who's like, oh, we don't want to like

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Speaker 19: really now you're worried about a gestapo that you helped

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Speaker 19: Usher in. So I think you know you said something important, Andrew.

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Speaker 19: Folks were willing to accept other people's destructions.

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Speaker 3: That's right.

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Speaker 19: They believed wholeheartedly that their whiteness would mean they would

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Speaker 19: not also face destruction. And now they're waking up to

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Speaker 19: the reality of what we were trying to say all

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Speaker 19: the time. It's frankly, you cannot have this much inequality

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Speaker 19: and maintain your democracy.

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Speaker 1: Let me ask a question because I want to help

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Speaker 1: talk to each other.

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Speaker 3: That's it.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to bring joy and you in this conversation

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Speaker 1: because for me and I think Andrew probably has a

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Speaker 1: similar feeling, maybe you know, being elected before running trying

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Speaker 1: to trying to persuade voters, no matter what they look like,

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Speaker 1: where they come from. You kind of walk into politics

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Speaker 1: with this naivete that you're going to be able to

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Speaker 1: convince people to vote for you, you know, because you

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Speaker 1: all have the same issues, right, no matter if you're

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Speaker 1: white or black, have a Confederate flag, you want to

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Speaker 1: believe that you want your mama to have access to

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Speaker 1: prescription drugs like you don't want to have to struggle

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Speaker 1: and when you see people like Joe Rogan, and I

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Speaker 1: want to toss to that clip right now. But when

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Speaker 1: you see people like Joe Rogan have these moments of truth,

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Speaker 1: Joy Nicole, how do we process that? How do we

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Speaker 1: accept them? Do we accept them? Do we discount them?

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Speaker 1: Do we disregard them? Do we say I told you so?

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Speaker 1: What do we do with the Joe Rogans, who's, by

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Speaker 1: the way, speak for millions of people, unfortunately or fortunately

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Speaker 1: and even more importantly, millions of voters that are going

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Speaker 1: to be important in twenty twenty six and twenty twenty eight.

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Speaker 1: So let's talk to the clipping on the other side.

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Speaker 1: If Professor and if joy of y'all can can respond

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Speaker 1: to that, I'd appreciate it.

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Speaker 20: You don't want militarized people in the streets just roaming

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Speaker 20: around snatching people up, many of which turn out to

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Speaker 20: actually be US citizens that just don't have their papers

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Speaker 20: on them. Are we really going to be the the Gestapo?

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Speaker 20: Where's your papers? Is that what we've come to is

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Speaker 20: that part.

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Speaker 7: Of the reckless, the way in which they've done it,

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Speaker 7: had they all been brown and not white women and

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Speaker 7: all these others.

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Speaker 1: Do even is that question even? Is that question even

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Speaker 1: relevant with people who are having these come to Jesus Joy.

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Speaker 7: Well, Jesus only because they see themselves reflected.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, look, I'm gonna watch what they do, not what

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Speaker 6: they say. Person. My guess is the next election ballot

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Speaker 6: comes in front of Joe Rogan, he votes exactly the

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Speaker 6: same way if Donald Trump was on the ballot again,

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Speaker 6: he votes exactly the same way. People like Joe Rogan

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Speaker 6: that just asking questions. Guy, he's and he does speak

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Speaker 6: for lots and lots of unintelligent, uneducated white men who

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Speaker 6: are angry about literally what Donald Trump said. Donald Trump

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Speaker 6: is very transparent. They are mad about the civil rights movement.

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Speaker 6: They do feel that voting rights and civil rights for

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Speaker 6: black people took away their rights as white men to

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Speaker 6: be mediocre and successful, to get into college even if

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Speaker 6: they didn't deserve it, to get jobs they didn't deserve.

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Speaker 6: And they're putting that back in place now. Notice the

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Speaker 6: men and women they hire who are white are underqualified,

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Speaker 6: and that's by design. They want back the world in

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Speaker 6: which being mediocre and white means that there's no barrier

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Speaker 6: to your success. And they're pissed off that excellent non

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Speaker 6: white people have gotten to rise but I will say

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Speaker 6: that the Joe Rogan revelations are because they didn't expect

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Speaker 6: to have to watch it. The reason that I b

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Speaker 6: Well's was so powerful, the reason that Emmett tells mom

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Speaker 6: what she did was so powerful is white people want

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Speaker 6: to have privilege and they want to have non white

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Speaker 6: people get hurt, but they don't want to have to

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Speaker 6: have to watch it. They don't want to have to

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Speaker 6: have their souls implicated in it. And so because they're

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Speaker 6: now watching their gardener's bridge, they're right. They don't want

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Speaker 6: to watch John Lewis get beat. They just wanted to

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Speaker 6: get beat without them having to see it and having

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Speaker 6: to be accountable for it. And I think the accountability

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Speaker 6: of the fact that this administration wants to broadcast the cruelty.

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Speaker 6: They want to make it into like a cops show.

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Speaker 6: So they're making everybody watch it. It's all over social media,

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Speaker 6: they're posting it on social media, and so people like

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Speaker 6: Joe Rogan are going like, wait a minute, I didn't

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Speaker 6: know they were going to go and home depot and

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Speaker 6: get the guy who's going to fix my house. I

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Speaker 6: didn't know they were going to go get the you know,

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01:12:55,520 --> 01:12:57,240
Speaker 6: the guy that I'm buying our repus from on the

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Speaker 6: side of the road. Hang on a second, I can't

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Speaker 6: get food at my restaurant because all the workers won't

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Speaker 6: show up. Who's going to serve me my beer? Who's

1408
01:13:03,160 --> 01:13:06,080
Speaker 6: going to serve me my food? So now they're realizing, oh,

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Speaker 6: this does impact me, And so I'm interested to watch

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Speaker 6: them come to this revelation that they should have been

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Speaker 6: able to figure out by us just literally telling them.

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Speaker 6: But I'm more interested in what do they do with

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01:13:16,000 --> 01:13:19,320
Speaker 6: that information, And I'm very dubious that most of them

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Speaker 6: are going to do something different. I do think there's

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Speaker 6: a percentage of them. Forty percent of white folks have

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Speaker 6: always voted with us for a long time, since since

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Speaker 6: the sixties. So I think those forty are going to

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Speaker 6: get stronger. Those forty are going to get louder. Those

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01:13:30,720 --> 01:13:32,760
Speaker 6: forty are going to get more outraged that white women

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Speaker 6: are getting shot in the face now that they're now

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Speaker 6: on the table. But those forty are who we need

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Speaker 6: to focus on. The sixty gotta come to Jesus on

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Speaker 6: their own. I'm not about recruiting them because they are

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Speaker 6: usually unchangeable, Madam Professor, So you.

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Speaker 19: Know, I I mostly agree with what Joy said. One

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01:13:54,520 --> 01:13:58,400
Speaker 19: thing that we always have to just confront is the

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Speaker 19: truth of the fact that we're thirty teen percent of

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Speaker 19: the population, and so we have to build coalition. So

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01:14:05,400 --> 01:14:08,200
Speaker 19: we can sit here and wag our fingers and be

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Speaker 19: like we were right, welcome to the America we've always

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Speaker 19: lived in, or we can figure out, okay, well, welcome

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01:14:15,360 --> 01:14:17,559
Speaker 19: to the America we've always lived in. Now how do

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01:14:17,600 --> 01:14:20,440
Speaker 19: we actually move forward and try to build a sustainable coalition.

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Speaker 19: But I also agree that that coalition cannot be predicated

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Speaker 19: on us having to pretend we don't have the racialized

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01:14:29,240 --> 01:14:32,360
Speaker 19: experience that we have that so often and this is

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Speaker 19: even with the forty percent who votes with us right

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Speaker 19: like they were blaming us for Trump. They were saying,

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Speaker 19: if y'all had stopped talking about race so much, if

1440
01:14:41,280 --> 01:14:44,439
Speaker 19: trans people would just disappear and be quiet, then we

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01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:48,240
Speaker 19: wouldn't be here. And so it can't be what doctor

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01:14:48,320 --> 01:14:51,400
Speaker 19: King called the negative peace right, like a justice that's

1443
01:14:51,479 --> 01:14:54,920
Speaker 19: based on us having to be erased or us just

1444
01:14:54,960 --> 01:14:57,160
Speaker 19: pretending that we don't have the experience that we have.

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Speaker 19: So I think we clearly have to figure out how

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01:14:59,640 --> 01:15:03,160
Speaker 19: to make coalition. The problem is the history of this

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01:15:03,320 --> 01:15:08,840
Speaker 19: country is that coalition is almost never sustained, and there

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01:15:08,920 --> 01:15:10,920
Speaker 19: are more of us than them. Just numerically, if you

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01:15:10,960 --> 01:15:13,720
Speaker 19: add the forty percent of white Americans who vote our

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01:15:13,720 --> 01:15:16,040
Speaker 19: way and then the vast majority of people who are

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Speaker 19: not white, there are more of us than them. But

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01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:21,280
Speaker 19: that's also why we have Donald Trump in the White

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01:15:21,280 --> 01:15:25,200
Speaker 19: House now right, why we're seeing these policies, why at

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01:15:25,640 --> 01:15:31,160
Speaker 19: the moment where people of color largely decide democracy, a

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Speaker 19: lot of elite white folks say it actually just kidding.

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01:15:33,520 --> 01:15:36,439
Speaker 19: We don't believe in democracy anymore. And that's really what

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01:15:36,479 --> 01:15:38,400
Speaker 19: we're going to be up against more than anything, more

1458
01:15:38,400 --> 01:15:41,000
Speaker 19: than building coalition, is do we have a fair election

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Speaker 19: in twenty twenty eight?

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Speaker 18: Are we going to.

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Speaker 19: Lose our representation in Congress through redistricting and through this

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01:15:47,120 --> 01:15:49,920
Speaker 19: Supreme Court case? And I'm not sure how we come

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01:15:50,160 --> 01:15:54,200
Speaker 19: overcome that. Coalition building alone won't overcome that. So I'm afraid,

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Speaker 19: you know, we're in for some very dark days that

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Speaker 19: are not going to be changed by whoever is in

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Speaker 19: the White House next.

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Speaker 1: Let me just also say that while we're recording right now,

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Speaker 1: I don't even know if we do break and breaking news,

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Speaker 1: but I'm the lead of the show, so we're going

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Speaker 1: to throw this out there and try to figure it

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Speaker 1: out as we go. But the Department of State just

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Speaker 1: announce they will pause immigrant visus processing from seventy five

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Speaker 1: countries whose migrants take welfare from the American people at

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Speaker 1: unacceptable rates. Mind you, those seventy five countries are all

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Speaker 1: black and brown. I think that adds some context and

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Speaker 1: contour to the conversation we're having. I'm sorry, Andrew, I'm

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Speaker 1: going to cut you off.

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Speaker 4: I was actually gonna, oh, go ahead.

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Speaker 7: Go ahead, Angela.

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Speaker 4: So I want to just tap in here for a

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Speaker 4: moment again.

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Speaker 2: Hearkening back to this New York Times piece where Donald

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Speaker 2: Trump talks about as a result of civil rights legislation

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Speaker 2: and progress for US, white people were treated badly.

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Speaker 4: So deepening into that.

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Speaker 2: When you look at voting rights, white people aren't treated badly.

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Speaker 2: When you look at venture capital, white people aren't treated badly.

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Speaker 2: When you look at employment rates in this country, they

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Speaker 2: are not treated badly. When you look at college education,

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Speaker 2: degree attainments, degree attainment, white people are not treated badly.

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Speaker 2: When you look at the wealth gap and home ownership

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Speaker 2: rates in this country, white people are not treated badly

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01:17:08,400 --> 01:17:11,880
Speaker 2: wage disparities, even the most recent Department of Transportation dB

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Speaker 2: regulation changes that will no longer allow disadvantaged businesses.

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Speaker 4: To be to consider race or gender.

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Speaker 2: White people are not treated badly, and when you look

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Speaker 2: at tenured professors, something you know very well about Nicole

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Speaker 2: white folks aren't treated badly in carcon racing race.

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Speaker 4: We can keep going.

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Speaker 2: As of this twenty twenty, the number of Fortune five

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Speaker 2: hundred CEOs who were white men was over eighty five percent.

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Speaker 2: The number of white CEOs total in Fortune five hundred

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Speaker 2: companies was over ninety two percent, according to Scherm, which

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Speaker 2: is the I can't remember it's a human resources organization

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Speaker 2: led by a black man. Sixty six percent of men

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Speaker 2: hold the C suite positions for the fort one thousand.

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Speaker 4: Saying all that to say white people aren't treated badly.

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Speaker 2: But the EEOC, which has now changed its mission to

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Speaker 2: help white men, recently put out this PSA.

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Speaker 4: Let's roll that clip.

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Speaker 21: I'm Andrew Lucas, Chair of the US Equal Employment Opportunity Commission.

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Speaker 21: Are you a white male who's experienced discrimination at work

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01:18:19,760 --> 01:18:22,360
Speaker 21: based on your race, sex? You may have a claim

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01:18:22,439 --> 01:18:23,560
Speaker 21: to recover money.

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Speaker 4: In your federals is a Saturday night live clip.

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Speaker 21: Contact the EOC as soon as possible. Time limits are

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Speaker 21: typically strict for finally acclaim. The EOC is the federal

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Speaker 21: agency charged with enforcing federal anti discrimination law against businesses

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Speaker 21: and other private sector employers. The EOC is committed to identifying, attacking,

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Speaker 21: and eliminating all forms of race and sex discrimination, including

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Speaker 21: against white male applicants and employees. Check out EOC dot

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Speaker 21: gov to learn more and read our one page explainer

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Speaker 21: about DEI lilated discrimination.

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Speaker 1: I thought she was slinging peels or something like, are

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Speaker 1: you a white male who can't get it up at night?

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Speaker 1: Please reach outreach out to than us.

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Speaker 7: They know those stats, Angela. They go to the golf courses,

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Speaker 7: they have dinner together, they have tailgates together. They know

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Speaker 7: where their friends are working and and and who helped

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Speaker 7: their child get into college. What is bothering them is

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Speaker 7: now their children, who are coming home and getting back

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Speaker 7: on the couch, are there because they have to compete

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Speaker 7: with me and you and all the rest of us

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Speaker 7: on this screen right now, and our children and they're

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Speaker 7: you know, so on and so forth, and their adjacency.

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Speaker 7: It feels like they're adjacency to the power. The person

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Speaker 7: who makes the moves and the decision is just getting

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Speaker 7: a little bit further Now instead of a finger reach,

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Speaker 7: it's maybe an arms less reach from where they are.

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Speaker 7: You didn't ask me this, Bakari, and I may be

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Speaker 7: crucified for this way of thinking. But numbers do matter, Nicole.

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Speaker 7: You bought it up and you did too. Joy around

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Speaker 7: what percentage black people are in this country? Why we

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01:20:06,479 --> 01:20:08,320
Speaker 7: got to bring some people to our side if we're

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Speaker 7: going to ever see advancement. I knew that same thing

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Speaker 7: running for governor of Florida and what I what I

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Speaker 7: was not going to do, and I appreciated as system

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Speaker 7: and co bringing it back to our displacement and discomfort

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Speaker 7: and having to do this where we it's okay and

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Speaker 7: the you know, go along to get along is we

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Speaker 7: weren't going to be in my townholl mediaing ands you

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Speaker 7: talked about I ain't.

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Speaker 3: Got a racist.

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Speaker 7: No, guess what, let me tell you what I believe.

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Speaker 7: I think we all got it. We all said some things.

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Speaker 7: I think we do some things. And guess what it

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Speaker 7: may not even be on our conscious brain. Our lived

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Speaker 7: experiences may have shaped us into this thing and you

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01:20:44,400 --> 01:20:47,519
Speaker 7: just knee jerk react that way. But guess what, I

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Speaker 7: don't I'm not calling you a racist because it feels

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Speaker 7: like a static position. You did some racist shit, you

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Speaker 7: think it's some racist thoughts, and you may do some

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Speaker 7: racist stuff tomorrow, but the day after that you have

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Speaker 7: a choice of change. What are you going to do

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Speaker 7: to change? Are you going to allow it to go

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Speaker 7: from the recesses of your mind to your frontal load

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Speaker 7: so that when you're doing these things, I don't want

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Speaker 7: you going and understanding I'm vote. I vote blind. Color

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Speaker 7: doesn't matter, see my color. Because if we don't talk

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Speaker 7: about it now, and you go in that ballot box

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Speaker 7: and it's just you in that paper and the recesses

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Speaker 7: of your mind start to take control, it may convince

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Speaker 7: you that a black man cannot possibly be governor of

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Speaker 7: this state. So long as you to go in there

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Speaker 7: and no, you know what, there's a black man running

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Speaker 7: for governor, and you know it over these days and

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Speaker 7: listening to him and the debasem da da da da da,

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Speaker 7: I think he could be a good governor. Don't let

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Speaker 7: the recesses be the dictate on your actions. You you

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01:21:39,520 --> 01:21:41,960
Speaker 7: still have the chance to change I've done some things

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Speaker 7: I ain't proud of as relates to race and gender

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Speaker 7: and all these kinds of things, and you have to

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Speaker 7: and guess what. We live to fight another day. You

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Speaker 7: can still change. And again I don't, I don't. I

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Speaker 7: don't say that in a pollyannish kind of way. The

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Speaker 7: intention is to like bring it to your conscious brain

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Speaker 7: that you're doing this shit all the time, the microaguessions,

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Speaker 7: locking your car, pulling your purse, crossing the street, all

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Speaker 7: those kinds of things that you do without even thinking.

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Speaker 7: But I see it and I experience it. It embarrasses me,

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Speaker 7: but you do it anyway, So let's talk about it.

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Speaker 4: Nicole.

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Speaker 7: You can crucify me, because I know that is polyannic sounding,

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Speaker 7: but it was the only way I could get through

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Speaker 7: without feeling dishonest.

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Speaker 2: And if you can to call also folding your response

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Speaker 2: to this PSA about white men needing to find EEOC claims,

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Speaker 2: please whatever that, I'm just.

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Speaker 19: Gonna quickly say that Andrew, I actually don't think everybody's racist.

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Speaker 19: I think everybody does have prejudice. I think we do

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Speaker 19: prejudge things, but I feel like racist is a very

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Speaker 19: particular term. And when we say that we actually let

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Speaker 19: white supremacy off the hook. I don't know black folks

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Speaker 19: walking around thinking that they as a race are superior

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Speaker 19: to white Americans, or that white Americans should be denied

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Speaker 19: access to opportunity and that we should set up top

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Speaker 19: a hierarchy. Now, we may have prejudice against white Americans

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Speaker 19: based on our own experiences or based on our own stereotypes,

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Speaker 19: but I think we have to make a distinction because

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Speaker 19: racism is really about system and frankly, I don't care

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Speaker 19: if you don't like black people. What I do care

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Speaker 19: is if you have the power to alter my opportunities

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Speaker 19: in my life. So I just want to be clear there.

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Speaker 19: As for the EEOC, so there's two things that always

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Speaker 19: kind of stand out to me when I hear this.

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Speaker 19: And I'm actually been working on a story about the EEOC,

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Speaker 19: so I can't say too much because I don't want

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Speaker 19: nobody still in my report. But the thing that they

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Speaker 19: cannot respond to who is doing the discriminating They're basically

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Speaker 19: what they're arguing is in a white majority country where

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Speaker 19: white people hold all the levers of power, that white

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Speaker 19: people are being victimized by white people.

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Speaker 18: That's the argument.

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Speaker 19: I mean it really is right, Like the who's making

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Speaker 19: admissions decisions at these elite schools. They know who's hiring

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Speaker 19: a fortune five hundred, they know the law firms that

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Speaker 19: they win after, who's running them, who's making all these

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Speaker 19: hiring decisions. And so just like that anti se Rt frenzy,

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Speaker 19: where we were to believe that a teaching force that

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Speaker 19: was eighty percent white had a bunch of white women

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Speaker 19: telling little white Johnny that he was the racist devil.

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Speaker 19: It defies logic, right, So when they're making these claims,

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Speaker 19: they are never saying who they are talking to about

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Speaker 19: that is doing the discriminating, because the only people in

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Speaker 19: power to do systemic discrimination against white people are white people,

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Speaker 19: and that doesn't make sense. Okay, But the second thing

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Speaker 19: is just by you laying out angelo, which which we

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Speaker 19: I don't see enough in media right when they're when

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Speaker 19: Trump is making the claim about civil rights five minutes

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Speaker 19: on the internet. And you can refute all of that

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Speaker 19: with data, peer reviewed, easily accessible. You can pick government data,

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01:24:52,360 --> 01:24:56,520
Speaker 19: academic data, like it's the data from the companies themselves,

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Speaker 19: you could easily refute it.

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Speaker 18: But what we are in is a narrative war.

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Speaker 19: The facts are relevant, the fact that six percent of

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Speaker 19: doctors are black means black folks ain't taking no white

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01:25:07,280 --> 01:25:10,440
Speaker 19: people's jobs, less than three percent of lawyers.

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Speaker 18: Right, just go down the list.

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Speaker 19: Right, we're underrepresented at every elite institution and most non

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Speaker 19: elite institutions, and we're overrepresented at the bottom. Right, service sector,

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Speaker 19: low wate jobs, community colleges, and predatory academic institutions. We

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Speaker 19: are overrepresented. But that is irrelevant. What matters is the narrative,

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Speaker 19: and the narrative is to make white people feel because

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01:25:35,560 --> 01:25:39,080
Speaker 19: white people do feel something, right, they do feel I mean,

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Speaker 19: I talk about this sometimes.

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Speaker 18: Remember I was flying on a plane, I think I was.

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Speaker 19: I think I was leaving Detroit, and every single person

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Speaker 19: in first class was black, And you know, usually want

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01:25:51,880 --> 01:25:58,240
Speaker 19: to ask, every single person in first class is black?

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Speaker 19: And you watch the the white people come across the

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Speaker 19: jet bridge and they turn that corner and all of

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Speaker 19: a sudden, like their whole world is off kilter. Now

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Speaker 19: going back to coach or comfort plus with everybody in

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Speaker 19: first class is white.

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Speaker 18: To you.

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Speaker 19: But if you have to go back to comfort class

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Speaker 19: or coach and everybody in first class is black, then

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01:26:23,800 --> 01:26:28,200
Speaker 19: suddenly your status is looking a little shabby. Right, And

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Speaker 19: even though that's not reflective of America. We know most

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Speaker 19: most black folk, like most planes you write on anywhere,

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Speaker 19: it might be one black person in first class. But

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Speaker 19: just that one incident, I was just watching their faces.

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Speaker 19: It was like a pause for a second. And so

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Speaker 19: what Donald Trump and this administration is tapping into is

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Speaker 19: a sense among a month excuse me, amongst white Americans,

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Speaker 19: not that they're slipping, that they're losing something, period, but

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Speaker 19: they feel like they're losing something relative to us, and

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Speaker 19: we have to unders and this is how segregation works.

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Speaker 19: Most white Americans, the only black people they know are

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Speaker 19: black people in the same situation as them. They don't

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01:27:09,240 --> 01:27:12,160
Speaker 19: experience the vast majority of black folks who are living

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Speaker 19: in segregated neighborhoods, who don't have access to quality schools,

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Speaker 19: who are working jobs that don't pay well. If you

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Speaker 19: are a white person and you know a black person,

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Speaker 19: you know because I work with you, or I'm in

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Speaker 19: the same supermarket, or I might be a handful of

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01:27:26,439 --> 01:27:28,760
Speaker 19: black people who live in your neighborhood. And so that

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01:27:28,880 --> 01:27:30,880
Speaker 19: perception is, oh, black people live in just like me,

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Speaker 19: And that's not how the world is supposed to be

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01:27:33,240 --> 01:27:35,439
Speaker 19: that's what happens in a racial hierarchy. So that's what

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Speaker 19: they're tapping into. It doesn't matter what the data and

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Speaker 19: the facts are, because what I know what I know,

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Speaker 19: and this is all I'm going to say, because again

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01:27:41,680 --> 01:27:44,400
Speaker 19: I'm reporting on it. We know who the most race

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01:27:44,439 --> 01:27:47,920
Speaker 19: discrimination complaints that go to the EEOC come from black folks,

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01:27:48,439 --> 01:27:53,640
Speaker 19: because we also know from data and sociological research that

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Speaker 19: black people face the most discrimination in the job market

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Speaker 19: of all racial groups.

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Speaker 18: So they don't have enough cases.

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01:28:01,000 --> 01:28:06,080
Speaker 19: To bring a reverse reverse discrimination which is also a

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01:28:06,120 --> 01:28:09,320
Speaker 19: made up term which says discrimination against white people is different,

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01:28:09,520 --> 01:28:12,120
Speaker 19: which also tells you about racial hierarchy. They don't have

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01:28:12,240 --> 01:28:14,920
Speaker 19: enough cases to bring, so they have to solicit them

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01:28:15,280 --> 01:28:17,599
Speaker 19: because they have no evidence of the claim that they're

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01:28:17,640 --> 01:28:19,799
Speaker 19: trying to make, So they have to produce the evidence

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01:28:20,200 --> 01:28:23,080
Speaker 19: and read the story when it comes out. But that's

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Speaker 19: what we're seeing, and it is unprecedented. The EEOC, which

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Speaker 19: was literally created out of the nineteen sixty four Civil

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Speaker 19: Rights Act to ensure Black Americans had an equal opportunity

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01:28:35,280 --> 01:28:43,040
Speaker 19: in the workforce, has never ever issued a solicitation for

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01:28:43,400 --> 01:28:48,080
Speaker 19: a particular race or particular gender to file complaints they've

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01:28:48,120 --> 01:28:51,799
Speaker 19: never done that, and so to use that unprecedented moment

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01:28:51,840 --> 01:28:56,519
Speaker 19: to call on white men who are overrepresented right in

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01:28:56,720 --> 01:29:01,679
Speaker 19: every field that is a leading pays. Well, that's about narrative.

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01:29:02,120 --> 01:29:04,360
Speaker 19: They know that it doesn't they know it doesn't exist.

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Speaker 19: The last thing I'll say on this, sorry, you can

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01:29:06,600 --> 01:29:07,400
Speaker 19: tell I've been thinking.

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Speaker 7: A lot of love it.

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01:29:09,960 --> 01:29:14,440
Speaker 19: If they really believed that white Americans were facing rampant discrimination,

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01:29:15,000 --> 01:29:19,160
Speaker 19: why would you gut civil rights agencies. You cannot at

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01:29:19,160 --> 01:29:23,519
Speaker 19: once say white people are facing discrimination, they don't have

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01:29:23,560 --> 01:29:26,240
Speaker 19: access to education, they don't have access to jobs, they're

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Speaker 19: facing all of these programs are discriminating against them, and

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Speaker 19: then say we need to eliminate the entire civil rights

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Speaker 19: divisions of the justice not well, shrink right, decapitate the

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01:29:40,320 --> 01:29:44,040
Speaker 19: civil rights enforcement mechanism of the federal government. If you

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Speaker 19: believe that people are facing rampant discrimination, you would want

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Speaker 19: that very strong so they could root out all of

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Speaker 19: this illegal discrimination white.

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Speaker 18: People are experiencing.

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Speaker 19: But instead they know that's not true, they gut the

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Speaker 19: civil rights agencies, and then they can complain about how

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Speaker 19: victimized they are.

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Speaker 18: That's my answer.

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Speaker 7: Amen, I love it. She said you extinguished the Arsenal.

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Speaker 2: If you had a last question, but do I want

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Speaker 2: to make sure you get in to ask our dear

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Speaker 2: sister any question, offer any comment books.

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Speaker 1: I know you got to get out of here too,

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Speaker 1: and I want to make sure we got.

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Speaker 6: So absolutely well my last question, very and you answered

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Speaker 6: much of what I would have asked. So I'll just

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Speaker 6: skip to my media question. Because the New York Times

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01:30:24,240 --> 01:30:26,920
Speaker 6: did this reporting about what Donald Trump said in that

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Speaker 6: editorial interview. Assess for me where you think the mainstream

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01:30:31,520 --> 01:30:34,240
Speaker 6: media is in being able to talk about Donald Trump.

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01:30:34,479 --> 01:30:36,840
Speaker 6: We've now had his former lawyer Michael Cohen say that

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Speaker 6: he was a racist. We've now had him himself say

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Speaker 6: that he opposed the Civil Rights Act. I don't know

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Speaker 6: what more evidence the media needs to change its language.

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Speaker 6: What do you make of the fact that despite Donald

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01:30:48,280 --> 01:30:50,519
Speaker 6: Trump putting so much more evidence on the table, putting

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01:30:50,520 --> 01:30:53,759
Speaker 6: what Ice is doing on the table, the language hasn't changed.

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Speaker 6: And in fact, in the Barry Weiss world, it's it's

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01:30:56,040 --> 01:30:58,400
Speaker 6: gone the other way, where people are saying, we need

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Speaker 6: to increase our understand of people who support this.

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Speaker 19: I'm not gonna comment on the Barri Wiss world because

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01:31:07,400 --> 01:31:09,639
Speaker 19: Barry Weiss to me, is not a journalist at all.

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Speaker 19: What she's producing is is not any of based on

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Speaker 19: any of the journalistics standards and ethics that me, a

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Speaker 19: trained journalist, was actually brought up on. But I will

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Speaker 19: say I have seen a subtle shift. I have seen

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Speaker 19: now reporting that says he said something racist. They don't

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Speaker 19: call him a racist, and frankly, I don't care. They

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01:31:36,040 --> 01:31:38,000
Speaker 19: don't have to call him a racist, but you do

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Speaker 19: have to properly describe what he's doing and what he's saying.

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Speaker 19: You know, two years ago they wouldn't have described things

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Speaker 19: that he said as racist or things that he's done

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01:31:47,680 --> 01:31:51,080
Speaker 19: is racist, and they are doing that. So there's subtle

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Speaker 19: I don't know that. I won't say, I don't know,

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Speaker 19: it doesn't go far enough, but I think what's so important,

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Speaker 19: and this is part of like what you're doing joy

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Speaker 19: with independent media. The rise of independent media means that

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Speaker 19: mainstream media is being pushed, right, You're being pushed to

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01:32:09,960 --> 01:32:13,280
Speaker 19: sharpen their analysis. You know, it's fascinating that in an

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Speaker 19: industry where precision of words, precision of terms is literally

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Speaker 19: our bread and butter when it comes to things like

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01:32:22,040 --> 01:32:27,000
Speaker 19: is this a regime? Describe other similar governments as regimes?

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Speaker 19: Is this authoritarianism? Are we seeing fascist actions? Even if

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Speaker 19: you don't want to call someone a fascist, Is what's

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Speaker 19: happening in Ghana or Gaza a genocide? If all of

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01:32:38,360 --> 01:32:42,200
Speaker 19: the experts on genocide say that it is, it tells

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Speaker 19: you a lot about this idea of objectivity that we

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01:32:45,200 --> 01:32:48,160
Speaker 19: can't objectively name things still.

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Speaker 18: Depending on the subject matter.

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Speaker 19: So I think it's I think that we are seeing

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01:32:53,920 --> 01:32:57,040
Speaker 19: an improvement, but I still think over all the media

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01:32:58,640 --> 01:33:02,799
Speaker 19: fails more often than not to paint an accurate picture

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Speaker 19: of Trump. There's excellent coverage that happens, but then it's

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Speaker 19: outweighed by fluff coverage. Right, And so the average American

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01:33:10,560 --> 01:33:13,040
Speaker 19: you can't, like, on the one hand, like describe these

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Speaker 19: authoritarian actions and then do a story about wardrobe.

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Speaker 18: Right, It's like, what's the picture that we're getting?

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Speaker 19: And I think we just continue to struggle to do

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01:33:22,160 --> 01:33:24,600
Speaker 19: that and that the media and the end when the

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Speaker 19: when the history of this moment is written.

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Speaker 18: It's going to it's going to have a pretty shameful legacy.

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Speaker 4: I agreed.

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Speaker 1: Amen, Thanks troubl I want to say thank you, and

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Speaker 1: as we say on this show, welcome home to somebody

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Speaker 1: Amazing podcast.

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Speaker 4: When the EEO C story drops, please.

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Speaker 1: Come back, Oh please welcome home. Thank you so much, brilliant,

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Speaker 1: we got It's three, It's three, Andrew.

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Speaker 7: Well, imagine every week I'm talking about I'm talking about

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01:33:57,840 --> 01:34:00,960
Speaker 7: I mean y'all, just y'all levitating today.

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Speaker 22: Here, all right, take care say we want to go

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01:34:08,680 --> 01:34:10,920
Speaker 22: straight into this call to action, love it.

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01:34:17,000 --> 01:34:20,960
Speaker 23: Who cares about truth and allows more than seen it.

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Speaker 6: My call to action today is everyone, remember that the

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01:34:26,120 --> 01:34:28,880
Speaker 6: Trump regime does not believe in the nineteen sixty four

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01:34:28,920 --> 01:34:30,800
Speaker 6: Civil Rights Act. You said it's bad for white people.

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01:34:30,880 --> 01:34:34,400
Speaker 6: So okay, let's play their way. Treat them like gremlins.

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Speaker 6: If you own a restaurant, don't feed them. If you've

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01:34:37,360 --> 01:34:39,640
Speaker 6: got an establishment, don't let them in. They don't have

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01:34:39,640 --> 01:34:41,400
Speaker 6: to use the bathroom at your place. If you got

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01:34:41,439 --> 01:34:45,320
Speaker 6: to shut down early at lunchtime, do it. Minnesota restaurants

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01:34:45,360 --> 01:34:47,680
Speaker 6: are doing just that. We're seeing it in Chicago, We're

1819
01:34:47,680 --> 01:34:50,679
Speaker 6: seeing it in many cities. If ice comes to your door,

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01:34:50,800 --> 01:34:52,360
Speaker 6: just put a sign up on your door that says

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01:34:52,720 --> 01:34:55,120
Speaker 6: no maths other than medical or allow if you're not.

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01:34:55,160 --> 01:34:56,680
Speaker 6: If you're wearing a mask and it ain't medical, you

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01:34:56,720 --> 01:34:59,160
Speaker 6: can't come in here. Treat them like a gremlin. Don't

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01:34:59,200 --> 01:35:02,559
Speaker 6: feed them. People know that work for Ice, that they

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01:35:02,600 --> 01:35:05,920
Speaker 6: are not welcome in your establishment and in your city.

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01:35:06,360 --> 01:35:09,280
Speaker 6: Do it safely, but do it because they need to

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Speaker 6: get the message that Ice is not welcome.

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Speaker 1: Welcome, but you're always welcome. Joy and read welcome home,

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Speaker 1: thank you.

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Speaker 4: Thank you with us.

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01:35:20,320 --> 01:35:22,600
Speaker 6: Absolutely, this was so much fun. I love you all

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01:35:22,640 --> 01:35:24,040
Speaker 6: and there's not a thing you can do about it.

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Speaker 1: You welcome home, thank you. Mine is simple mind. Yeah,

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01:35:31,040 --> 01:35:33,040
Speaker 1: they are very smart. It makes me want to go

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01:35:33,080 --> 01:35:36,479
Speaker 1: read some books. I wish I had time to be

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01:35:36,520 --> 01:35:40,720
Speaker 1: reading books again. Anyway. My call to action is the

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Speaker 1: breaking news in South Carolina was we have an ongoing

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Speaker 1: measles outbreak in South Carolina. It's grown to more than

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Speaker 1: four hundred and thirty cases. That's what our state Department

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01:35:50,040 --> 01:35:53,719
Speaker 1: of Health has reported. More than half of those cases

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Speaker 1: were reported in the last week. The vast majority of

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Speaker 1: measles cases in the current outbreak have been among children,

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01:36:00,680 --> 01:36:04,400
Speaker 1: have been among children, and nearly all have been unvaccinated

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Speaker 1: with the MMR vaccine. So my caught action is just

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01:36:08,920 --> 01:36:13,719
Speaker 1: be very cautious. I know that ha make America healthy again. People,

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01:36:14,040 --> 01:36:16,959
Speaker 1: particularly a lot of my white female friends, were excited

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01:36:17,000 --> 01:36:21,080
Speaker 1: about Robert Kennedy because he wanted to ban red dye.

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Speaker 1: But he's the reason that children in South Carolina are

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Speaker 1: getting sick in their lives will forever be altered. He's

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01:36:27,240 --> 01:36:31,520
Speaker 1: an anti vaxxer who believes taylanol and circumcision causes autism.

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01:36:31,680 --> 01:36:34,479
Speaker 1: He's a heroin addict. He killed and dumped a six

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Speaker 1: month old bear in Central Park. He severed the head

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Speaker 1: of a dead beach well, and he said that he

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Speaker 1: had a worm in his brain that died after eating

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Speaker 1: a portion of it. But people cheered for him, and

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01:36:46,360 --> 01:36:49,080
Speaker 1: now kids are literally suffering, And so I want people

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Speaker 1: to know that elections have consequences. Be very mindful. I'm

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01:36:52,880 --> 01:36:55,080
Speaker 1: praying for those kids who have measles in South Carolina,

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01:36:55,160 --> 01:36:58,160
Speaker 1: their entire communities. It is ravishing my great state, and

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Speaker 1: unfortunately nobody's saying anything about it.

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Speaker 4: That is horrible, horrible.

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Speaker 2: I guess I will go now on a slightly lighter note.

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Speaker 24: Uh.

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Speaker 4: Tianna Taylor won a Golden Globe.

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Speaker 2: This past weekend, and during her acceptance speech, she had

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Speaker 2: this to say to little brown girls.

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Speaker 24: My brown sisters, and little brown girls watching tonight. Our

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01:37:28,040 --> 01:37:31,759
Speaker 24: softness is not a liability. Our depth is not depth.

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01:37:32,040 --> 01:37:35,200
Speaker 24: It's not too much. Our light does not need permission

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01:37:35,280 --> 01:37:38,080
Speaker 24: to sean. We belong in every room we walk into.

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01:37:38,160 --> 01:37:41,280
Speaker 24: Our voices matter, and our dreams deserve space.

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Speaker 7: Thank you so much, everybody.

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Speaker 4: We deserve Andrew Gillam, Hey, I.

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01:37:48,840 --> 01:37:49,519
Speaker 7: Said it before.

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Speaker 3: If I just want to double down on what Joy sort.

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Speaker 7: Of raised, which is people power, what people can do

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01:37:57,800 --> 01:38:00,200
Speaker 7: when we just decide to lean in. Take a at

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01:38:00,200 --> 01:38:07,880
Speaker 7: this clip and see if it inspires you in some way.

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Speaker 3: Welcome.

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Speaker 25: Yeah, no, the Americans that are sending a message and

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01:38:16,520 --> 01:38:21,640
Speaker 25: they're saying immigrants are welcome here, no fear, no hate.

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Speaker 5: It cannot be that. I don't see anything that's more

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01:38:27,040 --> 01:38:33,160
Speaker 5: American than that. And I'm here just to experience, and

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01:38:33,400 --> 01:38:41,719
Speaker 5: so can the goodness of America from the streets of Minneapolis, Minnesota.

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Speaker 7: I wanted to.

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Speaker 5: Walk with them, but I cannot.

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Speaker 7: It is so cold.

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Speaker 25: It's probably minus here, so I don't know.

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Speaker 4: My bones.

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Speaker 5: Couldn't do it. I'm here listening.

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01:39:01,600 --> 01:39:04,639
Speaker 7: Every word did they utter? Is like a sound track

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Speaker 7: to my music.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely beautiful.

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01:39:10,240 --> 01:39:13,200
Speaker 7: I feel hope in the air, all right.

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01:39:13,439 --> 01:39:18,880
Speaker 5: I love it. It's this boy J Potter, the writer.

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Speaker 7: I love that. I love that.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for that.

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Speaker 7: You know, that's that's that's that's it right there. I mean,

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Speaker 7: if you got to hear a president calling you everything

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Speaker 7: any name, you're a taker, you're you know, the bottom

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01:39:31,360 --> 01:39:33,320
Speaker 7: of the of the trash, all this kind of thing.

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01:39:33,960 --> 01:39:36,760
Speaker 7: That man, he put it so perfectly. Every word they

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01:39:36,920 --> 01:39:41,680
Speaker 7: utter is music to my ears. It's so hopefully that

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Speaker 7: inspires some of us. If we think saying nothing, doing

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01:39:45,160 --> 01:39:48,280
Speaker 7: nothing is okay, and our presence and our voices may

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01:39:48,320 --> 01:39:53,000
Speaker 7: not be felt. Just know somebody's always watching, somebody's always listening.

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Speaker 1: That's a great way to end the show. What was

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01:39:55,040 --> 01:39:59,160
Speaker 1: a very heavy show. I hope people enjoyed it listening

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01:39:59,200 --> 01:40:03,080
Speaker 1: and watching as much as we enjoyed participating. As always,

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Speaker 1: we want to remind everyone to leave us a review

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Speaker 1: and subscribe. I was going to say rescribe, but subscribe.

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Speaker 1: We can rescript subscribe to Native lamp Pod. We're available

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Speaker 1: on all podcast platforms and YouTube. Something that ain't in

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Speaker 1: the script, but I'm adding it to the script. Also,

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Speaker 1: make sure you cast your vote for the Native Lamp Pod.

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Speaker 1: Every since they I joined. We got a nomination for

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Speaker 1: Na a C year.

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Speaker 4: We won last year.

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Speaker 1: Well, shoot, you can't go you can't go back to

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Speaker 1: back without me anyway. Shout out to Tiffany Cross, who

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01:40:33,479 --> 01:40:36,000
Speaker 1: deserves this award more than most, more than anybody. But

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Speaker 1: make sure you go with I don't even know where

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Speaker 1: the link is, but we will.

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Speaker 7: Definitely, he's more than manybody's.

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Speaker 4: In the fourth quarter trying to take credit.

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Speaker 1: No, trust me. If we went again, it's going up

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Speaker 1: behind me. It's definitely I got beat, I got be

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Speaker 1: by who how.

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Speaker 4: You learning your showing what an image of award looked like?

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Speaker 4: Showing what an image of wards look like?

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Speaker 2: An okay, but put it in frame.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I ain't got one of all I have is

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Speaker 1: an emmy anyway, if you're looking for more shows like here,

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Speaker 1: what is that.

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Speaker 4: Caroline?

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Speaker 6: Then?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, beautiful?

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Speaker 1: Look at that gorgeous? Do you mind if I finished? Now? Andrew?

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Speaker 1: You got any other family?

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Speaker 4: Let me just get in the mic ag.

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Speaker 7: One more thing, one more thing? Okay, go ahead, Okay,

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Speaker 7: thank you.

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