1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: Dating apps. I listen. I did a whole segment on 2 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 1: After Midnight, my radio show about this, and I don't 3 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:23,120 Speaker 1: think that they are healthy. What's up, guys, Welcome back 4 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:26,120 Speaker 1: to the podcast, episode two oh five. Have Amber with 5 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 1: me today. 6 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 2: I'm glad to be back. 7 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 1: You're with me in so many other things, but not 8 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 1: the podcast. And so long you haven't been on here. 9 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:35,159 Speaker 2: No, it's been a long time. 10 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 1: Do you remember when you were No, do you know? 11 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 1: I could look through these files, but has it been 12 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 1: a year? Probably? 13 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 2: Probably it was in the I think it was in 14 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 2: the hundreds. O. 15 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's pretty crazy. Well, our lives have been crazy, 16 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 1: and we are doing Actually i'm hearing that we're going 17 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 1: to do maybe some speaking together as we travel. That's 18 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 1: what Tyler said. 19 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't wait. I think that's going to be exciting. 20 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, because right now, you've been traveling different places 21 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:13,680 Speaker 1: and I've been traveling different places. 22 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:17,759 Speaker 3: We've done a couple things together before, but now we've 23 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 3: kind of ventured off on our own spaces, and I 24 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:21,119 Speaker 3: think we're going to come back together. 25 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:25,119 Speaker 1: Yeah. We travel to Dallas next week together. We're going 26 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:27,199 Speaker 1: to New York together. Then a week after that. Yep, 27 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 1: then I go to La by myself the week after that. Yeah, 28 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 1: a lot of travel. It's just as much as when 29 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 1: we were with music touring. But here on this podcast, 30 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 1: we don't travel. We just well, actually may take the 31 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 1: podcast to you one day, but right now we answer 32 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 1: your questions. Email me Grangersmith podcast at gmail dot com, 33 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 1: and we'll walk through them just like we're friends. We 34 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 1: have amber and I don't have any notes or we're 35 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: not prepared. In fact, I don't know at all what's 36 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 1: coming at me, so we'll just read these as we go. 37 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: Once again, Grangersmith podcast at gmail dot com. First quest 38 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 1: since says subject line dating apps. Hey, mister Smith, vague question. 39 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 1: I was just wondering what is your opinion on dating apps, 40 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 1: specifically Christian dating apps. And I've talked about this quite 41 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 1: a bit and then I've gotten pushedback on it, for sure, 42 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 1: but dating apps listen. I did a whole segment on 43 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: After Midnight, my radio show about this, and I don't 44 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 1: think that they are healthy. But I'm also not denying 45 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 1: that a lot of people have met on traditional dating apps. 46 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: And there will be people that would comment on this 47 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 1: and say I met my husband on a dating app. 48 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 1: And we've been married for seventeen years, and hey, I 49 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 1: get it, and that's amazing. I think the problem is 50 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: when it becomes the only option of choice, when you 51 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 1: do have another choice. 52 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I can see that. I can see that. 53 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 3: I don't have any experience with dating apps because obviously 54 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 3: I guess they were around, but we just never were 55 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 3: part of any dating apps. So I think it's like 56 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:16,079 Speaker 3: you said, I think when you have other options where 57 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 3: you could go out and meet somebody with your friends, 58 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 3: or somebody could recommend somebody, or meet them through your family, 59 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 3: or meet them through your church, or I think a 60 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 3: lot of people just don't put on a true vision 61 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:31,919 Speaker 3: of who they are on those dating apps. Sure, you're 62 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 3: always trying to talk yourself up. You're always trying to 63 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 3: make yourself look better, and I think they show maybe 64 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 3: the best version of themselves, and a lot of times 65 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 3: they lie or they withhold things, and I think that's 66 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 3: where you can get into trouble too. 67 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 1: Get catfished. Listen to this On After Midnight. I told 68 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: a story about Tender, the swipe right app that is 69 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 1: now using artificial intelligence to pick your profile picture for you. 70 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 1: You give it a bunch of pictures, It picks the profile, 71 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 1: pick sure edits, it crops, it chooses it out of 72 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 1: a bunch of them, and then writes your bio for 73 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 1: you and everything. So when you're swiping right on somebody, 74 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 1: you're literally looking at a computer generated picture of what 75 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 1: that person is represented to be. 76 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 3: And that's what the world is coming to with all 77 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 3: the chat, GPT and all that stuff. But I think 78 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 3: you're going to find out pretty quickly when you actually 79 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 3: get in a room with somebody or you sit down 80 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 3: to have a conversation that they're not who they claim 81 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 3: to be and. 82 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 2: You can tell that. 83 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:33,840 Speaker 1: So what do you say to the critic of this 84 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: podcast that there would there would be someone that actually 85 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 1: there was a TikTok that went viral of me talking 86 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 1: about this from this podcast, and then there was the 87 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 1: thing that it went viral. Also was a couple, specifically girls. 88 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 1: I don't think it was ever a guy that did it, 89 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 1: but specifically girls that we're saying because here's the deal, 90 00:04:56,880 --> 00:05:00,279 Speaker 1: I said, instead of a dating app, I would for 91 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:04,839 Speaker 1: recommendation of a friend or a family member or someone 92 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 1: at work that says, hey, there's a girl or there's 93 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:09,159 Speaker 1: a guy that I know that I would like to 94 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 1: set you up on a date, and that This person 95 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 1: just went off on me saying, I don't have any friends, 96 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: no one works with me that's compatible, and my family 97 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:20,040 Speaker 1: doesn't know anybody, or I'm a strange from my family 98 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 1: and I don't trust my family. And so she was 99 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 1: like doing a duet on TikTok, you know where it's 100 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:29,280 Speaker 1: like split screen, and she was watching me talk and 101 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:31,839 Speaker 1: she was like throwing up her hands saying, I don't 102 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:32,679 Speaker 1: have any of that stuff. 103 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 2: What about church? 104 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 1: Well, I don't think I mentioned that, but she probably 105 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 1: didn't go to church, but she was getting all angry 106 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 1: that saying. She was saying, dating apps is my only move, 107 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 1: That's all I have, So don't you take that away 108 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:46,359 Speaker 1: from me? 109 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 3: Well, and there are exceptions to every rule. I mean, 110 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 3: there are people that have probably been married or will 111 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 3: be married twenty thirty years from a dating app forty 112 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 3: years whatever, And there are exceptions. I think that can happen. 113 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 3: It's just probably not the norm. I think people use 114 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 3: it to hook up most of the time, and they 115 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 3: I think with a dating app, you're looking basically at 116 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 3: just what you want to see. You're looking at the 117 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:15,719 Speaker 3: outward appearance. You're looking at what looks good on paper 118 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 3: and you're not truly seeing the person that they are. 119 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 3: And I would I would almost say like it would 120 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:23,799 Speaker 3: be better to do like one of those speed dating 121 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 3: things where you're actually in a room and you just 122 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 3: jump from table to table, because you actually have a 123 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 3: conversation with each person and get to know them and 124 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:33,039 Speaker 3: get to see them, rather than just like swiping through 125 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 3: and going, oh, she's cute. 126 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:35,160 Speaker 2: He's not. 127 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 3: It's like it's just so surface level to me. But also, 128 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 3: I didn't grow up in that generation of that's kind 129 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:42,840 Speaker 3: of what it is now. That's all people do now 130 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 3: is basically date through dating apps. 131 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 1: So yeah, and I hear the people that say, listen, 132 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 1: I work all day long, I get off work and 133 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:55,359 Speaker 1: I come home and I don't I don't have a 134 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 1: bar or a restaurant or a movie theater that I 135 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: can go. I don't have any friends. My best option 136 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 1: at finding someone is going to a dating app. And 137 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: then a lot of people say it's worked for me. Yeah, 138 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 1: it's worked for me, and we're happily married, So I 139 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: totally get it. So there's specifically in this question, this 140 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 1: is Zachary saying this Christian dating apps? Does that help 141 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 1: or is that still opening up for catfishing? 142 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, but we're all, we're all, we're still sinners and 143 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 3: we're still fleshly. So even a Christian dating app is 144 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 3: not going to be the perfect app. You know, there 145 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 3: are the ones that they're kind of quoted, the sleazy 146 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 3: ones like the Tender, And then you think you're going 147 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 3: to go to a Christian app, but it could just 148 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 3: be a person a guy pretending a guy or girl 149 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 3: pretending to be a Christian. 150 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 2: You know, you don't. 151 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 3: You don't truly know that they're Christian until you see 152 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 3: the fruits of their life, until you see them actually 153 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 3: walking with the Lord. 154 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 2: You can't. 155 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 3: I can write all day that I'm a Christian on 156 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 3: an app, but you're not going to know that that's 157 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 3: true unless you hang out with me. 158 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: So what are you going to say yes or no 159 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 1: to dating apps? To this question? Read the question again, Hey, 160 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 1: mister Smith, vague question. Just wondering what is your opinion 161 00:07:57,720 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: on dating apps, specifically Christian dating apps. 162 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 3: I think you need to be careful. I think I 163 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 3: think you need to guard your heart. I wouldn't say 164 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 3: don't do it. I wouldn't you know, because there you 165 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 3: could meet the level of your life. On a dating app, 166 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 3: I would say, be careful, guard your heart. 167 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 1: And just go in with caution and get in person 168 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 1: as soon as possible. Try to set something up in 169 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 1: person way quicker than you would be comfortable with, because 170 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 1: you don't want to sit there and chat too long 171 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 1: online because you could be completely wasting your time. The 172 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 1: other thing I would say, too, just in general for people, 173 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 1: is this is going to come as a shock probably, 174 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:37,439 Speaker 1: but you know, you might need to lower your standards 175 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 1: a little bit on what you think you deserve and 176 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 1: work more on who you would want to be for 177 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:49,079 Speaker 1: someone that would who is the person that would want 178 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 1: to date you? And then I just still didn't say that, right, 179 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 1: be the person that you would want someone to be 180 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 1: attracted to, Yeah, Right, so that you will attract that 181 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 1: kind of person if you consistently try to become the 182 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 1: person that you want to attract. Yeah, And if we 183 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 1: work on that and stop stop thinking that we have 184 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 1: to have this the ultimate standard at day one. Because 185 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 1: the ultimate standard and someone that's that's very compatible. I'll 186 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 1: never say the word soulmate, but someone that's very compatible. 187 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:25,680 Speaker 1: You might not know that from a profile picture, or 188 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 1: from a bio, or from a chat, or even from 189 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 1: one coffee. But seven, eight, nine years down the road, 190 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 1: you might say this person is so compatible. I'm so 191 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 1: in love with this person. And I would have missed 192 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 1: it at day one because I had some supermodel standard 193 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 1: or some Harvard grad standard, or somebody that has this 194 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 1: kind of job or that maybe doesn't have a kid, 195 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 1: and I found this guy who does have a kid, 196 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:55,199 Speaker 1: And you start eliminating what could be someone very compatible 197 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 1: to you. 198 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's good advice. I agree. You can just swipe 199 00:09:58,240 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 2: right past them exactly. 200 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. 201 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 1: All right, let's that was a long time in that question. 202 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 1: Let's go to the next one. Here says, are there 203 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 1: difficult things in my life that have no purpose other 204 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 1: than bringing glory to God? That's the subject. That's the subject. 205 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 1: One says, Hey Granger, thanks for being Thanks so much 206 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 1: for this podcast. I love listening to you. It's continually 207 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 1: encouraged me. Here's my question. Bible verses like Romans eleven 208 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:28,839 Speaker 1: thirty six and Isaiah forty three seven talk about how 209 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 1: our purpose as humans is to bring God glory and 210 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 1: this is why he created us. Romans eight twenty eight 211 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:39,959 Speaker 1: also talks about how God works out everything for good 212 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 1: in the lives of believers. In light of this, well, 213 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 1: everything I experience in my life, even the hard things, 214 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:50,320 Speaker 1: ultimately lead up to something I like and feel good about, 215 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 1: or just that they will lead up to something that 216 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:57,680 Speaker 1: brings God glory. In other words, do any of the 217 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 1: difficult things that happen in my life have no other 218 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 1: person purpose than to bring God glory? Or am I 219 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 1: guaranteed to feel happy about them all someday and feel 220 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 1: like experiencing them was worth it in the end. I 221 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:11,719 Speaker 1: don't know if any of this makes sense by the 222 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 1: way it does, but that's something that I've been wondering 223 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 1: about for a long time, and nobody I talk to 224 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 1: seems to have an answer. I do. Thanks again for 225 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:21,439 Speaker 1: all the things you do to bring us the word 226 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 1: of God in a humblin on his way. Thanks for 227 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:25,199 Speaker 1: your amazing testimony. I praise God for all He's done 228 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 1: in your life. Sincerely, Naomi. It's a great question. Yeah, 229 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 1: I love the question, and it's a legitimate question, and 230 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 1: so let me I read it pretty roughly, So let 231 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:40,559 Speaker 1: me just kind of say what Naomi's saying. She's saying 232 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:44,960 Speaker 1: that as she reads the Bible. She's seeing that correctly. 233 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:48,199 Speaker 1: She's seeing correctly that our purpose, the reason we were 234 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 1: created and our purpose here on earth is to bring 235 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 1: God glory and all that we do to glorify Him. 236 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 1: And so she's saying, cool, good, thank you God, thanks 237 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 1: for that. Where do I fit in this picture? Like, 238 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 1: I'm happy that I'm created for a purpose and that 239 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 1: purpose is to give you glory. Mister narcissist, right, But 240 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 1: do I get anything out of this? I get it? Okay. 241 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 1: First of all, God is not a narcissist. That's not 242 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 1: what you said. But this is what we start to 243 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 1: figure out as we continue to read through the entire 244 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 1: whole canon of the Scripture. And that's why, and I'm 245 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 1: by no means accusing you of this at all, but 246 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:42,199 Speaker 1: as we read cover to cover of our Bibles, Genesis 247 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 1: all the way to Revelation, and continue to read through 248 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 1: it year by year, and the purpose of that, and 249 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 1: I've said on this podcast before, is to learn who 250 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:56,439 Speaker 1: God is. That's that's first and foremost. Who is God? 251 00:12:57,240 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 1: And we find him, as revealed in the Scripture. When 252 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 1: we begin to find him, we begin to know him. 253 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 1: When we begin to know him, we and can anticipate 254 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 1: what he likes and dislikes, hates and loves throughout the 255 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 1: course of our own lives as we apply it to ourselves. 256 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 1: What am I talking about. I'm talking about in the 257 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 1: case of my dad, who's been passed away since twenty fourteen. 258 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: Still I knew my Dad so well from living with 259 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 1: him and listening to him and watching him and observing 260 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 1: him that I know to this day. If I go 261 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 1: to a restaurant, when I open up a menu, I 262 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 1: know what Dad would like, and then I know what 263 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 1: Dad would not like. When I'm talking to someone and 264 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 1: they have an opinion about something, I know if Dad 265 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 1: would agree with that opinion or disagree with that opinion, 266 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 1: and that goes on and on and on in the 267 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 1: same way. That's really what our purposes in reading the 268 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:57,839 Speaker 1: Bible is to learn our heavenly Father in the same way, 269 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 1: so that we don't need specific thick answers to specific 270 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:05,680 Speaker 1: things in life. Instead, just like I don't need a 271 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 1: specific answer to what Dad would say about a certain 272 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 1: person in a certain situation in their life, I go, 273 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:13,679 Speaker 1: I know, in a general sense, in a broad sense, 274 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 1: exactly how Dad would feel like it feel about with 275 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 1: anything in this region. And that's how we learn God, 276 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 1: and we could walk through life with confidence the more 277 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 1: we read the Bible, of knowing what God would be 278 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 1: pleased about or displeased about our need or want from us. Okay, 279 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 1: So to your question about bringing God glory, what we 280 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 1: do know as we begin to know Him and as 281 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 1: we begin to read the Bible, is that bringing God glory, 282 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 1: which is our purpose, is not at odds with our 283 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 1: happiness or our joy. In fact, I said this in 284 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 1: the sermon recently. In fact, it is the source of it. 285 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 1: When we bring God glory, which is why we're created. 286 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 1: When we do that, we find that the source of 287 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 1: that glory that we bring him, whether it's the way 288 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 1: we act or walk, or say, or worship or enjoy 289 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 1: sunrise and sunset and the beautiful stars and the moon 290 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 1: and the trees and the rain, and when we see 291 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 1: this and little babies and little puppies and the grand canyon. 292 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 1: When we bring him glory and see his glory and 293 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 1: absorb his glory and feel his glory, that becomes the 294 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 1: source of our joy and our happiness. And the more 295 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 1: we do it, the more we worship, and the closer 296 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 1: we get to that purpose of glorifying Him. The more 297 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 1: we feel it, and the more we need less of 298 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 1: this earth, and the less of all the things that 299 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 1: are false joys, fake joys, counterfeit joys. You know, you 300 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 1: get so many things in this life for a counterfeit joy. 301 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 1: It's a counterfeit happiness. It fades, it's gone. Texas Aggies. 302 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 1: You know, I'm excited about watching them play this weekend, 303 00:15:57,800 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 1: and if they win, I'll be happy. But it's a 304 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 1: it's a counterfeit joy because it goes away in an instant. 305 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 1: When they lose the next week, right, and they could 306 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 1: win the national championship, it's gone the next year. Its counterfeit. 307 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 1: But when we glorify God, when we worship him like 308 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 1: we would worship Aggie football, we worship God in that way. 309 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 1: He never lets us down. In that way, it never 310 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 1: comes back as counterfeit. It just grows and stacks joy 311 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 1: upon joy upon joy. But been using this parable so 312 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 1: much lately, the Matthew thirteen forty four parable of the 313 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 1: hidden treasure when it says the Kingdom of Heaven Jesus talking, 314 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 1: the Kingdom of Heaven is like treasure in a field 315 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 1: which a man found and covered up. Then in his 316 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 1: joy he goes and sells all that he owns to 317 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 1: buy that field. There is that keyword right there. Joy. 318 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 1: He finds this treasure, and in his joy he gives 319 00:16:55,560 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 1: up the pleasures, the counterfeit pleasures, the counterfeit joys, and 320 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 1: goes all in on God. That is what we get 321 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:11,360 Speaker 1: when we glorify him. Your glorifying God is not at 322 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:12,400 Speaker 1: odds with your. 323 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 3: Joy, Yeah, she asked, She asked, in there is all 324 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 3: of this going to ultimately lead to my happiness? She said, 325 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 3: something along those lines. And no, not necessarily here on 326 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 3: this earth. 327 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 2: It's not. 328 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:32,879 Speaker 3: Your suffering might not lead to happiness here on earth. 329 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 3: You might not see a certain situation or a certain 330 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 3: thing redeemed this side of heaven. But I can promise 331 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:43,120 Speaker 3: you it will be worth it on the other side 332 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 3: and we see Christ face to face. 333 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 1: But you will have peace here through it. 334 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 3: You can't have peace through Yeah with Jesus, Yes, that 335 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:51,959 Speaker 3: is promise. You can have peace and joy in the 336 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 3: midst of your deepest pain. Now, could something necessarily be 337 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 3: redeemed this side of heaven? The Lord will do it, it 338 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 3: says in First Peter five ten. After you have suffered 339 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 3: at a little while I myself will will strengthen, redeem, reestablish, 340 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 3: and I think and strengthen you as the verse. But 341 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 3: a lot of times people will still suffer until they 342 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 3: go home. But on the other side, yes, it will 343 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 3: be worth it. Everything that you've faced, every horrible every 344 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 3: horrible thing that you went through, every trauma, every little 345 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 3: amount of suffering is preparing for you an eternal weight 346 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 3: of glory beyond all comparison. And it will so be 347 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:35,679 Speaker 3: worth it. And this life is a vapor and I 348 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 3: can't promise you happiness. Like Granger said, this side of heaven, 349 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 3: you can have joy, but joys a person, and it's Jesus. 350 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 3: But you might not be eternally happy and joyful until 351 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 3: we get to the other side, until we get home 352 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 3: to heaven. 353 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:52,159 Speaker 1: Read the Book of John. There's so much gold in 354 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 1: there with Jesus talking, especially in chapter sixteen when he 355 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:59,120 Speaker 1: ends up saying ends the chapter by saying, I tell 356 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:02,679 Speaker 1: you these things so that you will have peace in 357 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 1: this world. You'll have trouble, tribulation, persecution, suffering, you'll have it. 358 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:11,639 Speaker 1: But take heart, I've overcome the world. That's where the 359 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:13,920 Speaker 1: peace comes from. So you go yeah, I'm having suffering. 360 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:17,879 Speaker 1: I'm having problems, but oh man, but he's got the 361 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 1: whole world in his hands. So through that there's the rest. 362 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:25,440 Speaker 1: There's the peace, there's the joy, there's the hope. And 363 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:31,199 Speaker 1: with those things equipped in you peace, hope, rest, love, joy. 364 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 1: When you have those, you have the strength to overcome 365 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 1: through the suffering, because you're going to suffer whether or 366 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 1: not you have those things or not as a human, 367 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 1: whether or not you have Jesus or not, you're going 368 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:44,679 Speaker 1: to suffer. That's just part of being a human. But 369 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 1: you could be equipped with those those powerful things, those 370 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 1: fruits of the spirit, with your faith in Jesus. Let's 371 00:19:54,359 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 1: hit one more and let's take a break. Let me 372 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 1: making these questions. I'm sorry. I'm sorry if someone tuned 373 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:06,479 Speaker 1: in to figure out how to get a girlfriend or not. 374 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 1: Here's another subject, says, is there a right religion? Hey, Granger, 375 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 1: I have been raised Catholic, but now that I'm in my 376 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 1: thirties and I have a family in my own I 377 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:21,159 Speaker 1: have seemed to stray away from the Catholic faith. I 378 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 1: have not lost my faith in God, but just how 379 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 1: I practice my religion, I feel that I'm drawn closer 380 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 1: to God and feel better as a human being listening 381 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 1: to sermons from either non denominational pastors, Baptist pastors, and 382 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 1: even your sermons that you have been doing, which by 383 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 1: the way, are Baptist. My question is is there a 384 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 1: right religion? Am I turning my back on God if 385 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 1: I think about converting to another religion? Thank you for 386 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 1: your music over the years. My family and I enjoy 387 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 1: your concerts and I absolutely looking forward to what the 388 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 1: future holds for you. Mark. All right, So Mark this 389 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:57,879 Speaker 1: this is one of the problems with just reading an 390 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 1: email and not being enough on the podcast, because we 391 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 1: would want to dig in a little bit and say, well, 392 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 1: what are you defining as religion? Because so far everything 393 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 1: that you've listed here is denomination denomination based on trusting Christ, 394 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,360 Speaker 1: Jesus Christ as your Lord and savior. So if you're 395 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:23,640 Speaker 1: talking about religion as far as Buddhism or Hinduism or Islam, 396 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:29,200 Speaker 1: we're talking about fundamentally different kinds of religion. If you're 397 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 1: just talking about denominations, Man, I've been doing this deep, 398 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:36,159 Speaker 1: deep dive on C. S. Lewis as you know, like 399 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 1: a I've got like literally twenty books right now, that 400 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:43,359 Speaker 1: I'm having to go through with C. S. Lewis based 401 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 1: on I'm writing a research paper on C. S. Lewis 402 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:51,159 Speaker 1: and his apologetic method it in one of his books 403 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 1: called Mere Christianity Anyway. In the book Mere Christianity, he's 404 00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 1: it was originally a radio broadcast for World War Two 405 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 1: in Great Britain, and he was making a case for 406 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:07,920 Speaker 1: Christianity without even really talking about Christianity in that term. 407 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 1: He was talking about it in a broad sense to 408 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 1: anyone that was searching for who is God? And has 409 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 1: God revealed himself to us? And when it comes to 410 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 1: certain third, second, third, fourth tier doctrines and denominations, he 411 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:29,199 Speaker 1: said it this way. Look, my book Mere Christianity is 412 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 1: trying to get you into the hallway. I want to 413 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,479 Speaker 1: get you into the hallway. And once you're in there, 414 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 1: there are doors all down the hallway, and within those 415 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:43,400 Speaker 1: doors are rooms with food and fireplaces. That's what he said, 416 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:46,919 Speaker 1: something like that, with nice fireplaces and tables set and 417 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 1: food and you can go according to what food you like, right, 418 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:52,639 Speaker 1: so you can go and sit down like I like 419 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,239 Speaker 1: this room. I like the way the chairs are, I 420 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:58,160 Speaker 1: like the way the place mats are, and the tablecloth, 421 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:02,199 Speaker 1: and I really like eating roast beef. And then a 422 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 1: vegetarian gets in there and goes, you know, I'm not 423 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:07,919 Speaker 1: really into eating beef, but I love a good What 424 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 1: does the vegetarian need? A salad? Like a salad? And 425 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:14,239 Speaker 1: I like this room a little bit better. It's more 426 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:17,639 Speaker 1: vibe for me. And so basically C. S. Lewis is saying, 427 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:25,160 Speaker 1: these denominations, really they're not disagreeing on a major doctrine, 428 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 1: which is who is God has revealed in Jesus Christ. 429 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:37,679 Speaker 1: How are we redeemed, restored, forgiven, renewed, reborn through the 430 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 1: cross and the sacrifice that Jesus made on the cross, 431 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:44,439 Speaker 1: which is called penal substitution, which is Christ took on 432 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 1: the wrath of God himself and bore our sins on 433 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 1: the cross so that we could be set free if 434 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 1: we believe in him. So that's a first here doctrine. 435 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 1: You cannot disagree on that or you are not a Christian. 436 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:01,679 Speaker 1: Everything else after that it's just a place matt and 437 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:05,879 Speaker 1: a nice fire and a meal. And so I and 438 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 1: I think it's really neat. C. S. Lewis. Now I 439 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 1: have strong opinions about second third tier, fourth year doctrines. 440 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 1: I have those opinions, and I'd be willing to talk 441 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,920 Speaker 1: about it, but that's they're not selvific. They don't save 442 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 1: you or not. Only faith in Jesus does that in 443 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 1: realizing the the power of the Cross and what it 444 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 1: means for humanity. Who God is as revealed in his son. Okay, 445 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 1: So everything else that you're asking really is Halloway questions. 446 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 1: And so I think that's what you mean about religion. Yeah. 447 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:46,160 Speaker 1: I don't think you mean is there a right religion 448 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 1: when it comes to Islam or Buddhism or Hinduism, is 449 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,159 Speaker 1: it all the same? That's not what you're asking. 450 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:55,199 Speaker 2: No, Well, if you are, it's not. 451 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, if you are, If you are asking that question, 452 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 1: just briefly, none of those other religions would agree either. Yeah, 453 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 1: that that every religion, no religion. Let me say it 454 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:13,440 Speaker 1: this way, none of the major religions will will agree 455 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 1: that all paths lead to God. They're all going to 456 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 1: say this is the path. That's a different question on 457 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:23,119 Speaker 1: the podcast. Happy to answer that at another time. But 458 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:24,119 Speaker 1: I don't think that's what you're as. 459 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 2: I think it was more denominational. 460 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, which is like you said, you need to agree 461 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:36,399 Speaker 3: on self efit on things that are that are important 462 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 3: and needed for salvation. After that, it's like you said, 463 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 3: people sometimes disagree on baptism or alcohol or things like that. 464 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:46,639 Speaker 3: Those are different things that Granger said, or like the 465 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:48,920 Speaker 3: different doors that you can go in to get into 466 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 3: deeper theologically, you need to know that you're saved by 467 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:53,640 Speaker 3: grace through faith in Jesus Christ alone. 468 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 1: And don't don't use that word convert like that's the 469 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 1: wrong word to use. That's what you said, Am I 470 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 1: turning my back on God? If I think about converting 471 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 1: to another religion? Don't that's a wrong word. If you're 472 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:12,920 Speaker 1: talking about going from Presbyterian to Baptist or whatever, Baptist 473 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 1: and non denominational, if that's IF's that's a different discussion, 474 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:19,119 Speaker 1: and we could have deeper discussions on that. But that 475 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 1: has nothing to do with conversion. Conversion happens when you're 476 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 1: dead in your trespasses and you're reborn, your eyes are 477 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:30,920 Speaker 1: now opened, and you are a Christian. That is conversion. 478 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:35,479 Speaker 1: You can't do that. You can't decide to do that. 479 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:40,399 Speaker 1: God does that, And Jesus said in John three, no 480 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:43,919 Speaker 1: one enters the Kingdom of Heaven without being reborn. You 481 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 1: must be born again, is what Jesus said. A baby 482 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:51,640 Speaker 1: can't be born, It can't make himself be born, right, 483 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 1: you just are. It happens outside of yourself. Nothing bores 484 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 1: itself when he was the word nothing births itself. You know, 485 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:07,119 Speaker 1: something cannot birth itself. So I don't think that's what 486 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 1: you mean. And I hope this clears it up. Let's 487 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 1: take a break and be right back. Go ahead. 488 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 2: Just want to say quickly, if you're struggling with that, 489 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:14,640 Speaker 2: just pray. The Bible says. 490 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 3: The Bible says, anyone who is seeking wisdom to ask 491 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:19,199 Speaker 3: ask for it. Get on your knees and ask the 492 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 3: Lord to reveal things to you. Open up your Bible 493 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:21,880 Speaker 3: and begin to read. 494 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:26,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we could go. We can go and talk 495 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 1: about episcopals and we could talk. We could, but that 496 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 1: would take it. It's merely a preference of food. Hey guys, 497 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,159 Speaker 1: if y'all haven't gotten a copy yet of my book 498 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:42,359 Speaker 1: Like a River, I would encourage you to check this 499 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 1: book out. If you're not much of a book person, well, 500 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:48,159 Speaker 1: the audio book is something that I read and it 501 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 1: has some bonus features in it, some added commentary, plus 502 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,919 Speaker 1: Amber and I do about an hour long interview with 503 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,399 Speaker 1: each other, just us too at the end of the 504 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,120 Speaker 1: audio book. And so it's got a bunch of extras. 505 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 1: And maybe even if you have read the book and 506 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,880 Speaker 1: you have the hard copy, maybe you could check out 507 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:10,200 Speaker 1: the audiobook as well. It's something I was really excited 508 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 1: to record it and to bring it to life really 509 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 1: with my words as I've read it. If you've never 510 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,359 Speaker 1: had an audiobook before, you could use Audible or the 511 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 1: books app. Android users. I'm sorry I've never known your language, 512 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 1: but there's a way to do it for sure. Also, 513 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 1: if you want to get a hold of me, if 514 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:31,400 Speaker 1: you want me to send you a message for any 515 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 1: reason or to anyone, check me out on cameo dot 516 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 1: com slash Granger Smith. You could also download the cameo 517 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 1: app and search for me Granger Smith. This is a 518 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 1: great way for a last minute gift or a gift 519 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 1: for someone who has everything, or some special pick me 520 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 1: up for someone a happy birthday, happy anniversary, congratulations. It 521 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 1: could be just a word of encouragement. It's super easy. 522 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 1: You go to cameo dot com slash Granger Smith and 523 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 1: you tell me what you want me to say that 524 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 1: message comes to me, I pull up my phone and 525 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 1: I read or ad lib whatever general message you want 526 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 1: me to say here on my phone on my video, 527 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 1: and then I send it to you super easy. And 528 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 1: then lastly, the EEE Apparel fall launch is this Friday, 529 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 1: September fifteenth. All kinds of new items. Very excited about 530 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 1: this fall launch. Go to ye ye dot com and 531 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 1: that launch will go live at ten am Central Friday, 532 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 1: September fifteenth, So you're gonna want to show up a 533 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 1: little bit early to yeye dot com to make sure 534 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 1: that you get your favorite sizes before they sell out. 535 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 1: Back to the podcast. All right, guys, back here on 536 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 1: the podcast. Got my wife Amber join in. 537 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 2: It's been a long time. I'm so glad to be here. 538 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 2: I love sitting here with you. 539 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 1: That makes it so much better to have you. 540 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 3: We actually get to have a conversation without the kids 541 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 3: pulling on us. So yes, sometimes this is kind of like. 542 00:29:58,040 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 2: A little date for us. 543 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:04,959 Speaker 1: It is. I found out this week, and maybe some 544 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 1: of y'all listening already know this, but found out that 545 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 1: Like a River is a New York Times bestseller. 546 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:11,480 Speaker 2: It is. 547 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 3: That's so incredible crazy. I was telling you today that's 548 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 3: a very small portion of books that get to put 549 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 3: that on the cover. 550 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 2: So that's awesome. 551 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 3: And it's like you said, we don't do it for 552 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 3: you didn't write that book to get that title, but 553 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,720 Speaker 3: that title will hopefully get the book into more people's hands. 554 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 2: And that's what we want, is just to share the message. 555 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we answer your questions here. Grangersmith Podcast 556 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 1: at gmail dot com is the email this episode two 557 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 1: o five continuing here with the next question, subject line says, 558 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 1: the Book of Enoch, how do you grang your My 559 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 1: name is Joshua. This is my second time asking you 560 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 1: a question. The first response was so amazing, I figured 561 00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 1: i'd ask you another one because of all your knowledge. 562 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 1: The Book of was once in the Bible, however it 563 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 1: was removed. I just wanted to ask you what you 564 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 1: think of about this book and if or not it 565 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 1: is scripture. Ps. Your book is amazing. It brought a 566 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 1: tear to my eye. Thank you for being so vulnerable. 567 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 1: Your words mean a lot, Joshua, Thank you, Joshua, appreciate 568 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 1: you man. Thanks for also thanks for reading like a river. 569 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 1: And yeah, so let's talk about the Book of Enoch. 570 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 1: But maybe not just that book. There's a lot of 571 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 1: books that were that were in dispute and still are 572 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 1: maybe to this day. The Book of Enoch is one 573 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 1: of the newer ones that has been in dispute because 574 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 1: I believe it was discovered more recent than most and 575 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 1: so then it's been in like scholar debates as of lately. 576 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 1: I believe it came up recently, like within the last 577 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 1: fifty years, there was a there was a lot of 578 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 1: books and about the discovery of the Book of Enoch 579 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,959 Speaker 1: and why it was purposely left out of the canon. 580 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 1: So yeah, happy to discuss. And I love love this stuff. 581 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 1: I love history of the Bible. I love the canon, 582 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 1: the formation of the Canon. I love the formation of 583 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:23,640 Speaker 1: the Four Gospels. It's really fascinating to think about the 584 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 1: four Gospels themselves, like let let alone the Old Testament 585 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 1: and the Book of Enoch and stuff like that. But 586 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 1: why are there four? Matthew Mark Luke and John Man. 587 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,480 Speaker 1: That is such a such a crazy, deep deep well 588 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 1: just about. 589 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 2: To say that you're a deep well about this, And yeah, and. 590 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 1: I've read a lot of books about apologetic types of 591 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 1: books about the Canon itself and the sixty six books, 592 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 1: and even saying sixty six. There's some people that are like, oh, 593 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 1: it's not sick. There's more in that. 594 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 2: There's more in the Catholic Yeah, yeah, right. 595 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:58,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, And so we you know, happy to have that 596 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 1: discussion in another time as well. But what we find 597 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 1: as in twenty twenty three is a great time to 598 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 1: talk about what books belong in the canon or not, 599 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 1: because we have now compiled a lot more evidence over 600 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 1: twenty five thousand archaeological digs. We have more ancient manuscript 601 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 1: fragments of the Bible and complete pieces of different books 602 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:30,240 Speaker 1: or different scripture than any other ancient document combined times 603 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 1: a lot. And I'm talking about if you know ancient 604 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 1: documents like Homer or Aristotle or Plato or those kind 605 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 1: of ancient documents that we'll read in school, and you 606 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 1: look at it like this is a fact, like Homer 607 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 1: wrote this. Wow, the odds that Homer wrote what we 608 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 1: think he wrote are so so much more obscure than 609 00:33:55,560 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 1: if Moses wrote Deuteronomy, or if the apostle John wrote Revelation, 610 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:08,280 Speaker 1: or if if if Isaiah wrote the Great Isaiah Scroll. 611 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 1: I'd try to do the biggest sweep of fifteen hundred years. 612 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:15,239 Speaker 1: I could right there And what I mean is, we 613 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,799 Speaker 1: don't even have that much evidence that Homer actually wrote that, 614 00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 1: but people believe, but people believe it. Maybe he did, 615 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:26,640 Speaker 1: he probably did. But the fact is that the I 616 00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:29,560 Speaker 1: don't know much about Homer, but the I do know 617 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 1: that the evidence the fragments of the ancient documents are 618 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:37,400 Speaker 1: so few and so far few in between, or whatever 619 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 1: the phrase is. And the timeframe of when we have 620 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:45,319 Speaker 1: found fragments of Homer, it's so long after it was 621 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:49,719 Speaker 1: supposedly originally written that you could easily say, well, I 622 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:53,160 Speaker 1: don't think he actually wrote that. But when it comes 623 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:57,320 Speaker 1: to the Bible, we have so much more mounting evidence 624 00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:01,839 Speaker 1: and it's pretty incredible, and it's the most researched book 625 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:05,440 Speaker 1: in the planet, and we have the most evidence, more 626 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,600 Speaker 1: than any other ancient document. I read that it would 627 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:10,960 Speaker 1: be if you stacked all of our fragments up, it 628 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:15,719 Speaker 1: would be miles high as much as we found. So 629 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:18,839 Speaker 1: how do you know what is included and what's not? 630 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:23,200 Speaker 1: And was there some one council or maybe some constantine 631 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:27,160 Speaker 1: or one emperor that decided I'm going to decide this 632 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:28,680 Speaker 1: is what goes in here, and I'm going to do 633 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,320 Speaker 1: it because I want to get I want to gain power, 634 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,040 Speaker 1: or I want to gain control over people. So I'm 635 00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,799 Speaker 1: going to make sure that these books aren't included, and 636 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,680 Speaker 1: these are because these make me look better in my kingdom. 637 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,279 Speaker 1: Is that what happened or was it a council of 638 00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:46,880 Speaker 1: people that came together in Nicea in the fourth century 639 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 1: that said, Okay, let's randomly look at Israel and look 640 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 1: at all the pieces of literature, and let's pull together 641 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:56,840 Speaker 1: the ones that we want, and we'll call it the 642 00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 1: b I, B L E. And we'll make it. You know, 643 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:03,160 Speaker 1: they no, none of that is true. That's what people 644 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:07,000 Speaker 1: want to think it's true. But we have writings that 645 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:10,719 Speaker 1: go way before the fourth century of people reading scripture, 646 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 1: and starting with the Gospels, you have them as Jesus 647 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:24,520 Speaker 1: is quoting Psalms, He's crediting Psalms to David, he is 648 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:32,960 Speaker 1: crediting Isaiah to his writings, and Jeremiah and Moses writing Genesis, 649 00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:39,480 Speaker 1: and so we have connections. The Bible is self testifying, 650 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:44,280 Speaker 1: It testifies to itself through its own its own authors. 651 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:48,360 Speaker 1: And then we see that play out as apologist and 652 00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:53,239 Speaker 1: early Church fathers were writing in the same the same 653 00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:57,440 Speaker 1: lifetime as others. So we have the apostle John was 654 00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:01,279 Speaker 1: the last writer of the Bible. We have a lot 655 00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:05,040 Speaker 1: of evidence to believe that one of John's students was Polycarp, 656 00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:08,600 Speaker 1: and one of polycarp students was Irenaeus. And these guys 657 00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:13,640 Speaker 1: are writing in the same lifetime of other eyewitnesses that 658 00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:17,560 Speaker 1: were there with Jesus. And that goes back and back 659 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:19,680 Speaker 1: and back and back and back to David writing the 660 00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:22,960 Speaker 1: Psalms in the minor prophets and the major prophets. So 661 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:30,080 Speaker 1: we have so much testifying evidence to why we have 662 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:34,440 Speaker 1: authorship for certain books. And then we come to certain 663 00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:38,880 Speaker 1: things like the Gospel of Peter, the Gospel of Mary, 664 00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:42,719 Speaker 1: the Gospel of Thomas, the Book of Enoch, where we go, oh, 665 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:46,640 Speaker 1: hang on, there's a major gap here. The Gospel of Thomas. 666 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,399 Speaker 1: We don't have any ancient fragments of that. We don't 667 00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:54,239 Speaker 1: have anybody talking Ironaeus, Polycarp, Apostle John. No one is 668 00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:58,080 Speaker 1: talking about the Gospel of Thomas like they did everything else. 669 00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:02,880 Speaker 1: No one is talking about the things that Thomas talks 670 00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,400 Speaker 1: about that are the apparent Thomas talks about in the 671 00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:07,640 Speaker 1: Gospel Thomas. And we go, hang on a second, this 672 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:12,400 Speaker 1: is introducing new ideas. The Greek literary style is different 673 00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:16,239 Speaker 1: than the other four gospels. That wasn't the style of 674 00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:21,600 Speaker 1: conversation that the disciples had. We don't find as many 675 00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:28,239 Speaker 1: of the fragments, and we have some people actually speaking out, 676 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:31,479 Speaker 1: like iron As speaking out against the Gospel Thomas, saying 677 00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:37,080 Speaker 1: this is heresy, this is a fake. So then what 678 00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:40,080 Speaker 1: happens is a couple hundred years go by, there's people going, hey, 679 00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:42,440 Speaker 1: this is a fake. Of course, why there were humans, 680 00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:45,239 Speaker 1: why wouldn't there be fakes. You would imagine there would 681 00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,960 Speaker 1: be fake books that people write and credit it to 682 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:52,280 Speaker 1: an author it's not themselves, right, and so of course 683 00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:55,040 Speaker 1: that you would imagine in humanity that there would be 684 00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:02,120 Speaker 1: books that are coming out that are plagiarizing somebody else 685 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:07,040 Speaker 1: for something. So we go back and we read these historians. 686 00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:11,600 Speaker 1: Josephus is another one, and we can go, oh, we 687 00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:14,759 Speaker 1: have a lot of evidence to say that Thomas did 688 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:18,120 Speaker 1: not write this book. So does everybody vote this this 689 00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:20,680 Speaker 1: Thomas book is fake? And everyone's like, yeah, I did 690 00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:22,319 Speaker 1: my research here. This guy's like yeah, I did my 691 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,439 Speaker 1: research here. I talked to so and so he said 692 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,319 Speaker 1: Thomas didn't even write he talked to Thomas whatever, and 693 00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,320 Speaker 1: so they go. Book of Thomas is out, the Gospel 694 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:33,439 Speaker 1: of Thomas is out. Mary, same thing, Peter, same thing, 695 00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:38,480 Speaker 1: Book of Enoch, same thing. There, these books are not 696 00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:41,400 Speaker 1: in the Bible today in twenty twenty three, not because 697 00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:45,239 Speaker 1: of some conspiracy, not because of some old king or 698 00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:50,560 Speaker 1: some emperor or some secret council. It's literally because historians 699 00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:54,600 Speaker 1: have come together and go, that's uh, that's a that's 700 00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:58,480 Speaker 1: that's a false book. We can we can verify through 701 00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:01,600 Speaker 1: multiple sources that that's not the right person that wrote that. 702 00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:05,000 Speaker 1: And so we have to trust that the spirit that 703 00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:10,000 Speaker 1: these books are in spirit motivated, and we can go, yeah, 704 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:14,480 Speaker 1: the spirit is also motivating these wise men saying men 705 00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:16,600 Speaker 1: women saying no, we're not going to trust with these 706 00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:18,960 Speaker 1: books supposed to be here. And that was a long 707 00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:22,799 Speaker 1: goodness s grangers, shut up, move on. 708 00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,279 Speaker 2: You're like a deep oil of history and I love it. 709 00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:29,919 Speaker 1: The next next subject says, how to move on. That's 710 00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,359 Speaker 1: a good piece of advice for me. Move on, man, 711 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:37,839 Speaker 1: shut up. Hey granger. My name is Jose I'm twenty 712 00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:39,920 Speaker 1: three years old. I still can't get over my ex 713 00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:41,680 Speaker 1: Here we go, there's a good one now, we're back 714 00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:44,080 Speaker 1: to the good stuff. Still can't go over get over 715 00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:46,040 Speaker 1: my ex. It's been two years since the breakup, and 716 00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:49,200 Speaker 1: I can't move on. I have her on social media 717 00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:52,000 Speaker 1: and she's the first one I see on everything that 718 00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:54,520 Speaker 1: I post. She's the first one to see everything I post. 719 00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,080 Speaker 1: I've been on dates, but it just doesn't feel the same. 720 00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:01,400 Speaker 1: Can you give me any advice. I have read your 721 00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:03,600 Speaker 1: and it has helped me. I think he meant I've 722 00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:06,960 Speaker 1: read your book. Sorry, there wasn't a lot of punctuation 723 00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:10,040 Speaker 1: in that that, so I let me say it again. 724 00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:13,440 Speaker 1: This guy's Jose and he's twenty three. He can't get 725 00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:15,920 Speaker 1: over ax, his ax. It's been two years since the breakup. 726 00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,359 Speaker 1: Can't move on. He has her on social media and 727 00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:20,880 Speaker 1: she's the first one to see everything that he posts. 728 00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:23,520 Speaker 1: I'm assuming because she likes it or views it or something. 729 00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:26,880 Speaker 1: He's been on dates didn't feel the same, Bro, Jose, blocker. 730 00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:32,000 Speaker 3: Blocker blocker, you're causing yourself more damage, and especially after 731 00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:34,560 Speaker 3: if it's been two years, that's a long time to 732 00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:38,400 Speaker 3: stay stuck, and you're just hurting yourself by still continuing 733 00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:40,480 Speaker 3: to follow her or look at her, or let her 734 00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:40,920 Speaker 3: look at you. 735 00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:42,680 Speaker 2: Or post things because you want her to get jealous 736 00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:45,080 Speaker 2: or whatever. The things in the games that people play, 737 00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:49,000 Speaker 2: you got to just delete it. Will it will help 738 00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:49,880 Speaker 2: you keep your sanity. 739 00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:52,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, And you're going on these dates and it doesn't 740 00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:55,720 Speaker 1: feel the same because you literally just looked at her Instagram, Yeah, 741 00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:59,759 Speaker 1: right before you walked into the new date. So you're 742 00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:02,640 Speaker 1: not gonna heal until you stop seeing her every day 743 00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:04,640 Speaker 1: and you stop worrying about what she's doing. This was 744 00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:06,480 Speaker 1: not a problem they had in the nineties or eighties 745 00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:08,479 Speaker 1: or seventies or any year before that. Yeah. 746 00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:11,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think Sam Hunt has a song 747 00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:14,240 Speaker 3: about that, something about breaking up to the nineties. 748 00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:17,919 Speaker 1: Breaking up was easy in the nineties. Yeah. Yeah, there's 749 00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:23,399 Speaker 1: there's a there's so many country songs that I love 750 00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:28,160 Speaker 1: that I that I hear sometimes from the nineties or 751 00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:31,360 Speaker 1: eighties and I just think, Wow, that's not possible anymore. 752 00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:34,000 Speaker 1: There's this old song no one knows it, but it's 753 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,359 Speaker 1: from the nineties by this band called Blackhawk, and it's 754 00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:41,840 Speaker 1: called Postmark Birmingham, and it's about he got this letter 755 00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:46,359 Speaker 1: from her. She left and he got a letter and 756 00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:51,920 Speaker 1: she says, I'm sorry, I'm moving on. Basically, saying it's 757 00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:55,800 Speaker 1: it's not you, it's me, And the only evidence he 758 00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:57,600 Speaker 1: has is it's postmarked Birmingham. 759 00:42:57,800 --> 00:42:58,680 Speaker 2: It's such a good songs. 760 00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:02,640 Speaker 1: The only thing he knows about where she is, and 761 00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:05,080 Speaker 1: he can't understand because she doesn't have any family there, 762 00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:07,799 Speaker 1: no relatives there, she's never even been there, she's never 763 00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:13,279 Speaker 1: even been to Alabama whatever. And then Garth brooks, what 764 00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:16,280 Speaker 1: she's doing now, what she's doing now is tearing me apart, 765 00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:19,799 Speaker 1: filling up my mind. And he has no idea what 766 00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:20,360 Speaker 1: she's doing. 767 00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:23,320 Speaker 2: And now we know everything everybody's doing. 768 00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:26,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lot of those those songs, and I 769 00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:29,120 Speaker 1: hear them and I just think it's impossible because now, 770 00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,719 Speaker 1: if you date today in twenty twenty three, if you 771 00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:39,240 Speaker 1: date somebody, you're probably always going to know what they're doing. Yeah, 772 00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:41,960 Speaker 1: So you gotta walk her, Yeah, you gotta block it. 773 00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:45,880 Speaker 2: You gotta try to find a hobby. Yeah, try to 774 00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:48,280 Speaker 2: find something else to pour yourself into. 775 00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:52,920 Speaker 1: Every now and then Garth brooks, every now and then, 776 00:43:54,320 --> 00:44:01,280 Speaker 1: Oh man, that's a good song. The next one says 777 00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:03,719 Speaker 1: subject I'm trying to meet people. Hey, Grangeery, my name 778 00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:05,560 Speaker 1: is Blake. I'm eighteen from Minnesota. I just wanted to 779 00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:07,239 Speaker 1: say thank you for being an inspiration in my life 780 00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:09,239 Speaker 1: as well as my buddies. I've been listening to you 781 00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:12,600 Speaker 1: since I was nine. Just wanted to ask you how 782 00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:16,040 Speaker 1: I should go about interacting with new girls since most 783 00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:18,839 Speaker 1: of them since most of what I do is hang 784 00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:22,160 Speaker 1: out with my buddies on the farm and work. And 785 00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:24,520 Speaker 1: I know I'm still somewhat young, but I feel like 786 00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:26,920 Speaker 1: I should start being around more people and open myself 787 00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:30,880 Speaker 1: up to a future slash girlfriend slash wife. Thanks for 788 00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:33,640 Speaker 1: what you do. Also, I saw you performing Goodhre. It 789 00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:36,000 Speaker 1: was great. Lincoln was with me and Good Hu and 790 00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,920 Speaker 1: he did the gritty on the stage. 791 00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:42,960 Speaker 3: Sometimes he does the gritty and other times he's so. 792 00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:44,520 Speaker 2: Scared to go on stage. 793 00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:50,439 Speaker 1: Ye stage fright Blake eighteen years old. Man, dude, first react. 794 00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:52,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you my first reaction. This podcast really 795 00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:56,600 Speaker 1: is like driving down in the truck down a country 796 00:44:56,680 --> 00:45:01,400 Speaker 1: road and you're riding Shotgun and we got the windows 797 00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:04,440 Speaker 1: down and you say, man, could I ask you a question? 798 00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:08,960 Speaker 1: And you say, how do I go about interacting with 799 00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:11,279 Speaker 1: new girls since most of what I do is just 800 00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:12,919 Speaker 1: hang out with my buddies on the farm and work. 801 00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:17,680 Speaker 1: My first reaction, like knee jerk reaction, is bro, you're eighteen. 802 00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:21,600 Speaker 1: Just keep doing that. Keep doing that for a while. 803 00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:24,799 Speaker 1: Don't worry about how to interact with new girls. That 804 00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:28,319 Speaker 1: might be hard to do because your brain is there's 805 00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:32,120 Speaker 1: like things firing in your brain that's going you need 806 00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:33,640 Speaker 1: to look at a girl, you need to talk to 807 00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:37,359 Speaker 1: a girl. You need that's natural, that's your biology. It's 808 00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:40,719 Speaker 1: coming out saying, hey, it's time to get going on 809 00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:43,560 Speaker 1: this girl thing. You don't necessarily have to listen to 810 00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:47,880 Speaker 1: that at eighteen, though. I would much rather this email 811 00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:53,160 Speaker 1: than an email of someone eighteen going this, I've been 812 00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:57,719 Speaker 1: with this girl for six years, she's going off to college. 813 00:45:57,800 --> 00:45:59,839 Speaker 1: I don't know what to do. I love her, she's 814 00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:03,960 Speaker 1: of my life, she's pregnant, whatever. Like. The list goes 815 00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:06,080 Speaker 1: on and on of emails I wouldn't want to see. 816 00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:09,080 Speaker 1: But the one I do like is the one that says, 817 00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:12,560 Speaker 1: I'm eighteen, I work on the farm, I hang out 818 00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:16,760 Speaker 1: with my buddies. Should I start thinking about girls right now? Dude? 819 00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:17,640 Speaker 1: I love that email. 820 00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:20,640 Speaker 2: And there's there's we don't know too much. 821 00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:22,920 Speaker 3: We don't know what school he goes to or if 822 00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:26,000 Speaker 3: he's in school right now, or if his buddies have girlfriends, 823 00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:29,320 Speaker 3: or it's it's kind of hard without getting some more information. 824 00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:33,920 Speaker 1: My dad used to always take My dad raised three boys, 825 00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:37,319 Speaker 1: and he used to always tell us, guys, don't have 826 00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:40,360 Speaker 1: a girlfriend, just be friends with girls, and be friends 827 00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:43,600 Speaker 1: with a lot of them, but don't go steady with 828 00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:48,280 Speaker 1: any of them. And I know exactly what he meant, 829 00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:51,680 Speaker 1: and I would encourage the same thing with my kids, 830 00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:56,080 Speaker 1: because you only get blake. You only get this chance 831 00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:59,439 Speaker 1: one time to be eighteen, and it's going to fly by, 832 00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:03,960 Speaker 1: and Lord willing, most of your life, most of it, 833 00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:07,760 Speaker 1: you'll be with a girl. You'll be with your wife, 834 00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:12,440 Speaker 1: and you'll be raising babies and grand babies, Lord Willing, 835 00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:16,560 Speaker 1: you will spend the rest of your life and your 836 00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:20,200 Speaker 1: roommate will be a girl. Right But the only time 837 00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:22,520 Speaker 1: in your life when you're not going to have a 838 00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:25,600 Speaker 1: girl and you're just gonna be with your buddies hanging 839 00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:29,399 Speaker 1: out working on the farm is right now. And you're 840 00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:32,759 Speaker 1: asking me how to throw all that away and go 841 00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:34,080 Speaker 1: find a girl to worry about. 842 00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:37,160 Speaker 3: You could invite some of your girl quote, your girl 843 00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:40,080 Speaker 3: friends over to do some farm work and see if 844 00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:42,200 Speaker 3: they can handle whatever kind of farm work you're doing. 845 00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:45,960 Speaker 1: It's the same thing my dad said, be friends with them. Yeah, 846 00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:49,520 Speaker 1: and be friends with a lot of them. And Blake, 847 00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:53,440 Speaker 1: here's your main question is how do I go about 848 00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:58,120 Speaker 1: interacting with new girls since most of what I do 849 00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:00,400 Speaker 1: is hang out with my buddies on our farm work. 850 00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:04,839 Speaker 1: That's your main question. And my main answer to that, 851 00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:08,360 Speaker 1: besides the fact is please just enjoy being eighteen. My 852 00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:12,040 Speaker 1: main answer to you is, like Amber said, invite a 853 00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:15,440 Speaker 1: group of them together with your group of boys. So 854 00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:17,960 Speaker 1: you got a group of girls with a group of boys. 855 00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:23,760 Speaker 1: Nobody's singled out, and you guys make a bonfire. Somebody's 856 00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:26,040 Speaker 1: got to pick up a guitar. You play some guitar, 857 00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:29,919 Speaker 1: You pass the guitar around, you sing along. You then 858 00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:34,000 Speaker 1: get a really unique chance to watch the girls how 859 00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:37,360 Speaker 1: they interact, and they watch you and how you interact. 860 00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:43,120 Speaker 1: But you don't get stuck needing to know what to 861 00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:47,600 Speaker 1: say or do in the moment. You learn from the outside, 862 00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:52,919 Speaker 1: and you'll quickly learn things like, man, maybe next time 863 00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:57,280 Speaker 1: I'll wash my shirt, like maybe next time I'll comb 864 00:48:57,320 --> 00:49:00,800 Speaker 1: my hair or something. But those are really cool things 865 00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:06,440 Speaker 1: that happen as these two opposite creatures get together and 866 00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:10,480 Speaker 1: start socializing. You don't have to do that one on one. 867 00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:12,200 Speaker 1: You could do it in groups. 868 00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:15,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, And eighteen is kind of tricky because 869 00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:17,640 Speaker 3: that's about the time when girls and guys start going 870 00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:19,320 Speaker 3: off to college. So even if you did kind of 871 00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:21,880 Speaker 3: strike something up, you don't know if I don't know 872 00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:23,640 Speaker 3: if you're gonna if you're just gonna work on the farm, 873 00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:25,560 Speaker 3: which is awesome. But a girl that you might be 874 00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:27,200 Speaker 3: talking to you might be getting ready to go away, 875 00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:29,319 Speaker 3: so you might not want to start something up if 876 00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:32,040 Speaker 3: she's about to leave. So I agree with the group thing. 877 00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:33,400 Speaker 3: You can always have fun in groups. 878 00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:36,880 Speaker 1: I think that's all we got. We're out of time. 879 00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:40,080 Speaker 1: It's been awesome. Comment below. This is if you're watching 880 00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:43,400 Speaker 1: or listening on a platform that has comments, let us 881 00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:45,319 Speaker 1: know if you want to have Amber again. Or go 882 00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:48,480 Speaker 1: to Amber's instagram which is at Amber Emily Smith and 883 00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:50,920 Speaker 1: comment on her latest post and say we want you 884 00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:53,680 Speaker 1: back on the Granger podcast. Then go to my instagram 885 00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:55,719 Speaker 1: at Granger Smith and say bring back Amber on my 886 00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:57,879 Speaker 1: latest post. Comment that and. 887 00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:00,200 Speaker 2: I want to come back. 888 00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:02,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know where you live and I know you're 889 00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:05,680 Speaker 1: scheduled me Yeah, so love you guys, See you next Monday. 890 00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:08,600 Speaker 1: Thanks for joining me on the Granger Smith Podcast. I 891 00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:11,239 Speaker 1: appreciate all of you guys. You could help me out 892 00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:14,600 Speaker 1: by rating this podcast on iTunes. If you're on YouTube, 893 00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:18,080 Speaker 1: subscribe to this channel. Hit that little like button and 894 00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:21,359 Speaker 1: the notification spell so that you never miss anytime I 895 00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:24,279 Speaker 1: upload a video. 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