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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Guys, are you ready

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Speaker 1: for a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely?

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Speaker 1: Ready for a break? Yeah, and so much for that.

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Speaker 1: It's time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton.

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Speaker 1: It is Wednesday, June fifteenth, twenty twenty two, Season eighteen,

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Speaker 1: episode number thirteen. Welcome to the latest and the very

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Speaker 1: last Cowboys Break before we head to training camp in Oxnard, California,

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Speaker 1: later this summer. That'll be late July, so we'll have

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Speaker 1: a bit of a month, about a month here to

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Speaker 1: be able to relax and get away from football a

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Speaker 1: little bit and reset and be ready to kick it

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Speaker 1: in high gear when we get to training camp in Oxnard.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna recap this offseason. There's so many different things

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Speaker 1: questions for these guys just to give you a full

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Speaker 1: glimpse of what they think of the offense now of

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Speaker 1: the off season. Now that they've Cowboys have gotten through

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Speaker 1: that and now are looking forward to training camp we're

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Speaker 1: gonna start the conversation with Dalton Schultz. There's a lot

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Speaker 1: of news floating around him. And in the third segment,

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Speaker 1: of course, we got a little a little information that

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Speaker 1: mister Helman's going to provide a little news update that

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Speaker 1: mister Hellman's going to provide for you guys here in

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Speaker 1: the third segment. And by the way, if you guys

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Speaker 1: the offseason. You'll welcome to that in the third second.

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Speaker 1: The numbers eight eight, eight, eight, five, five two two,

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Speaker 1: nine to seven. How's everybody doing today? I'm doing wonderful, Derek.

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Speaker 1: That was a hell of an intro. I think you've

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Speaker 1: covered you covered the gamut. I'm getting good at this thing, man,

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Speaker 1: I really am year seventeen eight. Come on, man, I

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Speaker 1: just said, I don't listen what I'm doing. Listen to

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Speaker 1: the number. Never are you doing? I got nervous my

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Speaker 1: anxiety traits. Even though I know what it is, I'm like, oh,

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Speaker 1: what is it? Definitely, yeah, it sounds very it sounds

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Speaker 1: very ominous. It sounds very ominous. It's not ominous. It's

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Speaker 1: a good thing. We'll talk about it in the third segment, Nick,

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Speaker 1: how you doing it? Great? Stop grimacing over there, smile.

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Speaker 1: I'm fine. Just wait till this announcement and we'll see

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Speaker 1: whatever whatever Dave's announcement is. Okay, I take it. I

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Speaker 1: actually was. I was you were you were talking about

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Speaker 1: like going on summer vacation, and I was I was

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Speaker 1: thinking to myself like the Cowboys might be beating us

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Speaker 1: by a step or two, because that's sort of feeling

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Speaker 1: like this is the most anticlimactic mini camp week then

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Speaker 1: I can that I can ever remember, because Mini camp

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Speaker 1: is like the payoff of everything. It's like, well, they start,

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Speaker 1: you know, they're working out in February. Then they get

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Speaker 1: and it's three mandatory practices that are a little more intense.

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Speaker 1: They're not here. They're not here today, and now we'll

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Speaker 1: see about tomorrow. I don't know, but like they did

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Speaker 1: one day and it sounds like that might be it,

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Speaker 1: which I don't blame them at all. I mean, it's

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Speaker 1: the off season. I think you're supposed to be smart

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Speaker 1: here yesterday and then it's just like all right, we're good,

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Speaker 1: like this is I don't know why. I just it

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Speaker 1: know how to explain it. I mean, you know, coaches

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Speaker 1: want practices, you know, they they want as much time

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Speaker 1: whole practice for for by the NFL for you know,

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Speaker 1: I mean I don't understand it. But I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: There were moments that were very laughable funny, there were

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Speaker 1: They did stand out yesterday for sure, so that was

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Speaker 1: an exciting part. But going back to Nick's point, it's

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Speaker 1: just like certain things just don't don't make sense as

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Speaker 1: I'll actually I'll be the nice guy like I don't care.

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Speaker 1: I don't care at all. Um, yesterday's practice wasn't great,

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Speaker 1: think about Tyrn Smith, like can we just get to

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Speaker 1: mean I haven't heard that since Garrettly, No, I haven't either. Look,

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Speaker 1: never curely kill anybody for the process because ultimately, you

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Speaker 1: held accountable for how that all manifests itself in September,

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Speaker 1: so that's when we'll judge his job is on the line,

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Speaker 1: I wonder how those conversations truly go behind closed doors.

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Speaker 1: Like I mean, Jerry is a very open book, but

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Speaker 1: There I was about it, you wouldn't know better than

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Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna do like a team activity on Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: just kind of whind this thing down. We don't need

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Speaker 1: all of these practices. And Jerry's just like, Okay, that's

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Speaker 1: what she wanted to. Don't think I'll forget about that.

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Speaker 1: Exactly right, That's exactly right. All right. Let's talk about

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Speaker 1: Dalton Schultz. Um. He was out of OTA's last week,

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Speaker 1: and it was obviously he was. He's trying to make

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Speaker 1: a point. He wants a new deal. Um and Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: I don't know that they've necessarily I think they're obviously

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Speaker 1: they're negotiating. UM. My question for you guys is how

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Speaker 1: Dalton wants the new deal. Cowboys have him under franchise tag.

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Speaker 1: They don't necessarily, I don't think, have to do anything.

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Speaker 1: I mean, let's let's I think we all agree, Like,

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Speaker 1: you know, Dalton Schultz is not Travis Kelsey, He's not

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Speaker 1: George Kittle, Um, I know, shocking analysis, right, keep going though,

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Speaker 1: fair point. Yeah, that is a completely fair point. And

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Speaker 1: I think that's probably Dalton Schultz's point. I don't think

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Speaker 1: but he's like, keep going down the list and see

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Speaker 1: you probably give it credit for it. Um. I don't

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Speaker 1: My first question for you, guys, and on each of

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Speaker 1: these questions, I'm gonna give you prescribed answers. I know

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Speaker 1: there may be others. These are the two or three

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Speaker 1: I want you to work with and give me your

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Speaker 1: best answer out of them. The first question, which player

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Speaker 1: was the biggest or the bigger loss for the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: Either Randy Gregory who became a free agent, who was

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Speaker 1: a free agent that went to Denver, or Amari Cooper

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Speaker 1: who was traded to Cleveland bigger loss Cooper. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: don't even think it's a question. And I mean, I

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Speaker 1: love Randy, but Amar's resume speaks for itself. Is it

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Speaker 1: about the resume? Is about what was behind him? Behind

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Speaker 1: I mean that's part of it. I mean they have

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Speaker 1: replaced Cooper with James Washington and Jalen Toilberg. I mean

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Speaker 1: and they and they've replaced Gregory with um, you know,

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Speaker 1: Dorance Armstrong and Fowler who has you know, his career

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Speaker 1: year is better than than the know Gregory not obviously

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Speaker 1: the upside, and you know, just just the type of

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Speaker 1: player that Gregory is there's a little bit more special.

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Speaker 1: But from a production standpoint, it's comparable. And they're throwing

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Speaker 1: a lot at it, hoping that it all kind of sticks,

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Speaker 1: and they're really hoping that dan Quinn can kind of

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Speaker 1: make it work. But I'm the first one just like

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Speaker 1: the whole quantity over quality, I never bought it. You

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Speaker 1: get the better player. They offered the deal to Randy

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Speaker 1: they clearly wanted him, having said that, I feel better

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Speaker 1: about what is there where Randy was than what is

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Speaker 1: where Amari was. I just think you got a career,

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Speaker 1: not great receiver in James Washington his best his best

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Speaker 1: season seven hundred thirty five yards a rookie, and Michael

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Speaker 1: Gallup who you know. We hope he'll be available by

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Speaker 1: you don't want to put a specific timeline on it,

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Speaker 1: but like he's he's not ready right now, so that

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Speaker 1: I mean Yeah, it's just it's the receiver and this

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Speaker 1: spring more than anything. It's just been troubling to it

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Speaker 1: there and be like, this is what they could be

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Speaker 1: trotting out if things don't break their way. It's like

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Speaker 1: somebody was sitting next to me at practice. I don't

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Speaker 1: even remember whose number, Dennis Houston. Dennis Houston was running

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Speaker 1: with the ones yesterday and somebody was like, they were like,

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Speaker 1: do you think that means anything? I was like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it means nobody else's health right. CD's not practicing, Washington's

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Speaker 1: not practicing, Gallup hasn't. He's not ready to practice. I

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Speaker 1: was just like you were joking about semi Phoko, like

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Speaker 1: he is the reps king of this offseat. Hey, that's

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Speaker 1: great for him, it's wonderful for him. But I don't

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Speaker 1: like the idea of having to play a game with

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Speaker 1: no no. But right now, that's great for him, that's

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Speaker 1: awesome for him. That's a crazy thing that even if

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Speaker 1: all of them, all the receivers were healthy right now

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Speaker 1: and practicing, you still have questions. You still have questions

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Speaker 1: whether they're gonna be good enough put together, whether CD

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Speaker 1: Lamb can be the number one receiver and Michael Gallup

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Speaker 1: take charge as well, and we've seen him do it.

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Speaker 1: But just in general, even if they were health, I

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Speaker 1: think there were still questions around that. So now at

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Speaker 1: the aspect of them not being able to practice, you're

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Speaker 1: even more concerned as opposed to the defensive line that

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Speaker 1: you got your guys you trust then Quinn, you got

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Speaker 1: um Sam Williams. That I mean, I know these practices

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00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,920
Speaker 1: are very you know, they're not heavy or anything, but

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Speaker 1: he's done some things that I'm like intrigued and definitely

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Speaker 1: excited to see what else he can do once they

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Speaker 1: put the pads on. But I have a lot more

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Speaker 1: trust on the defense than the offense. Okay, which offensive

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Speaker 1: lineman will be missed more Lyle Collins who's gone to Cincinnati,

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Speaker 1: or Connor Williams who has gone to Miami now Factory,

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Speaker 1: and Terrence Steele is projected to replace Lyle Collins. Tyler Smith,

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Speaker 1: the first round pick, is projected to replace Connor Williams,

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Speaker 1: who's going to be missed more Lyle Collins. And it's

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Speaker 1: I'm not trying to knock Terren Steele, Like I feel

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Speaker 1: fine about Terrence Steele playing right tackle. Go Tigers, my guy.

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Speaker 1: I miss you, Elsie. Um oh, I thought you're talking

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Speaker 1: about the whole coach. No, I don't. Um, thanks for

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Speaker 1: trying to throw me off my train of thought. Terrence

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Speaker 1: Steele is Terrence Steel's fine, Like my issue is not

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Speaker 1: with him. It's just like when you look at it

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Speaker 1: in totality of the tackle position, odds are you're gonna

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Speaker 1: need three maybe four. They used four last year. They

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Speaker 1: used Tian Sky and Terrence Steele as backups to Elsie

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Speaker 1: and Tyrons. They'll probably have to again and look at

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Speaker 1: the depth from one to three or four. And it's

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Speaker 1: terrifying for me. I don't know about you, Nick, I

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00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,679
Speaker 1: haven't seen anything and it's it's ot as I get it.

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00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,399
Speaker 1: Blah blah blah. Haven't seen anything from Matt will Letsko

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Speaker 1: or Josh Ball that makes me think that that's not scary.

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Speaker 1: I actually I feel I feel already without trying to

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00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 1: overreact too much, I feel so much better about the

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Speaker 1: Tyler Smith pick. Like he looks like he belongs and

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Speaker 1: he he looks like he belongs at guard and tackle honestly,

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Speaker 1: Like he's not winning every rep, he's not like dominating,

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Speaker 1: but he's looks good. Um, but you're gonna move him

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Speaker 1: out to tackle and screw up the guard situation. Like what,

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Speaker 1: I don't feel good about it? And so man, it

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Speaker 1: would be nice to have a rock solid, many year

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Speaker 1: starter tackle like Lyle Collins. Like, for the life of me,

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Speaker 1: I just felt like a move that didn't need to

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Speaker 1: be made. Like they they made themselves worse on purpose,

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Speaker 1: almost like yeah, I don't feel good about it, right,

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Speaker 1: even what they did with the money they did not

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Speaker 1: like question. I was like, what they do with the money? Um,

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00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 1: next year? We're always looking to the future. You know.

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Speaker 1: The only thing you know about about Lyle that I

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Speaker 1: I mean, not the only thing. I mean when when

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Speaker 1: he's healthy, I think he can be a really good

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Speaker 1: right tackle and I think he seems like his career

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00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 1: is gonna be rejuvenated. I have a feeling, yeah, just

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Speaker 1: down you know, just the Bengals and it's like Lsu

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Speaker 1: North up there, and you know, like it's a perfect

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Speaker 1: fit for for him and um. But but you know,

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Speaker 1: he was the ass kicker of the of the line,

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Speaker 1: and he was the enforcer. If you hit Dak out

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Speaker 1: of bounds in Washington, He's the one that's gonna gonna

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Speaker 1: punch you and and that's they need that. They need

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Speaker 1: that for sure, and so maybe they got it. We'll

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Speaker 1: have to see. Yeah, maybe the rookie is that, but

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Speaker 1: we'll have to see. Maybe and needs to be needs

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Speaker 1: to be. But they they need that, they need that

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Speaker 1: gain and that was a role that he played. So

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Speaker 1: I do think that he's gonna be missed more than

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Speaker 1: Connor Williams um for a couple of reasons, and that's

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Speaker 1: one of them. That's a very good question, and thank you.

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Speaker 1: And I can't make up my mind because there are

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Speaker 1: reasons for both of them. Like but you know, I

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00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 1: really liked Terence Steel and for some reason, I feel

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Speaker 1: that once Lyle Collins came back into the mix, things

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Speaker 1: just kinda got messed up in the middle of the season.

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Speaker 1: For that reason, I'm just gonna go head and say,

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Speaker 1: and I know Connor had a lot of problems. Okay,

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Speaker 1: we we had issues, I guard, but at the same time,

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Speaker 1: it just felt like it was just one position position

605
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Speaker 1: that you needed to fix. I don't know, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I'm split half and half. They both have a good

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Speaker 1: amount of why it's it's bad decision not to have

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Speaker 1: them here, and I know it was kind of time

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Speaker 1: to move on from Connor Williams. But I just I

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Speaker 1: don't know what to expect that guard position just yet.

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Speaker 1: The thing for me is like they would have had

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Speaker 1: to resign Connor. They would have I mean, what he

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Speaker 1: got seven million, seven million a year, which isn't a ton,

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Speaker 1: but I mean they don't. They don't like hand and

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Speaker 1: help money, big money in Dallas want to pay. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so that's a new contract where like Lyell was here,

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Speaker 1: and so they have twenty three million in space, they'd

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Speaker 1: have thirteen if he was here, Like that's the way,

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Speaker 1: and and and they're not. They don't seem like they're

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Speaker 1: in a rush to go spend all that money. And

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Speaker 1: I know, like I know Dax's hit is gonna go up.

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Speaker 1: I know that Trey Von coming and you can roll

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Speaker 1: that money over. So yeah, but that's a I get it,

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Speaker 1: and that's their problem to worry about. But that's a

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Speaker 1: tough sell. That's a tough sell for a team that

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00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 1: felt pretty good last year that you're like, well, we

627
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Speaker 1: can roll this over and use it on guys that

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Speaker 1: are already here like that, that's not getting anybody excited.

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Speaker 1: And it sounds like Miami. I mean they're playing Connor

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Speaker 1: Williams at center. Yeah, I heard that that's the plan.

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Speaker 1: It'll see Yeah, yeah, that was part of you know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if they watched his tape at training

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Speaker 1: camp in preseason at center, it wouldn't be worth seven million.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what they're seeing there, but I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know, maybe they're actually going to let him snap,

636
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 1: you know, in the off season to practice to get

637
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 1: ready for the season. So that would help him. That

638
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 1: would help him, if you know, if you practice more,

639
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 1: we're for practice. Mystifying to this goal. We're at camp. Now,

640
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 1: do you think you could snap? You want to try this? Yeah?

641
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame games in six days. How do you

642
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 1: feel about snapping? Yeah? All right, Let's move on to draft,

643
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 1: not including Tyler Smith, which rookie has a chance to

644
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 1: have the greatest impact this season. Between Sam Williams and

645
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 1: Jayleen Tilburn, Tilbert's a starter. It's gotta be Tilbert just

646
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 1: because of what they don't have. I mean, especially when

647
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 1: Michael gallops out, he'll he should be a starter. And

648
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 1: hopefully even when Michael gallops ready, he's still playing a

649
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 1: lot of snaps. So I think Sam Williams, though I

650
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:25,719
Speaker 1: saw a lot of commentary coming out of practice yesterday.

651
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 1: Again we're talking about a June practice, but everybody's talking

652
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 1: about him like, oh my gosh, this guy couldn't be locked,

653
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 1: you know, and that kind of thing by Matt will

654
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 1: Let's go. Yeah, I'm just saying, like, I'm not trying

655
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 1: to be a jerk, but that keep that in mind.

656
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 1: It's not Tyron Smith. But but and you were on

657
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 1: the Draft show and you've said this multiple times. I mean,

658
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 1: those guys that were getting picked in the top ten

659
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 1: at offensive tackle, they're on Sam Williams as highlight reel too.

660
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 1: I mean, he was beating those guys right here, beating

661
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 1: Cross and and I can't think of anyone else, sorry,

662
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 1: but I know there was a couple of Neil Kevan Neil,

663
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 1: a couple of SEC guys. So I mean, they've got

664
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 1: to figure out his position. They're going to figure out

665
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:04,959
Speaker 1: what to do with him and how it works. And

666
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 1: you know, he's probably not ready to be a three

667
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 1: down player, but when he is out there, what can

668
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 1: he do? And you know that's where Dan Quinn I

669
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 1: think it's going to help the most right there. I mean,

670
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 1: and it's I trust Dan Quinn. Dan Quinn's gonna find

671
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 1: something fun to do with him. I bet you his

672
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 1: role if I had to guess, I just think they're

673
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 1: gonna send him on the field in nickel dime like

674
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:30,719
Speaker 1: obvious pass passing situations and say like where's the where's

675
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 1: the most favorable matchup and where and Sam go get

676
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 1: that guy like that could be off the left side,

677
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 1: the right side. He's done some stuff in the gaps

678
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 1: at these practices, like basically blitzing, like not he's not

679
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 1: a linebacker, but it's like yeah, just stand over the

680
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 1: guard and run and sprint to the quarterback like that

681
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 1: type of stuff. So I do think dan Quinn can

682
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 1: find a way to maximize his talent. This thing is

683
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 1: still it's really hard for for edge rushers to come

684
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 1: in and ball out right away. This is when I

685
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 1: wish they did pros like they do college, and they

686
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 1: could put him in number eleven, roll them out there

687
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 1: and just like make offenses not know who is who,

688
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 1: just have them both out there. Even colleges can't. You

689
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 1: can't have two of the same on the same type.

690
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,919
Speaker 1: Just joke. My point is, My point is like he's

691
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 1: got the bodybuild, he looks like Micah, I just think

692
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:21,399
Speaker 1: there's gotta be a way they're going to use him

693
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 1: to do some things and move those I think if

694
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:25,839
Speaker 1: you could, again, if you're not talking about him being

695
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 1: a three down player, it does he have some position

696
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 1: flex Can you move him around a little bit to

697
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,319
Speaker 1: where maybe you now have two players that can kind

698
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:34,279
Speaker 1: of do some different types of things and rush from

699
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,360
Speaker 1: different angles of the field. I think there's there's some

700
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:37,839
Speaker 1: stuff you can do with him, and I trust Dan

701
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 1: Quinn to figure all that out. Yeah, because look at

702
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:43,320
Speaker 1: last year what he did with three rookies. Chauncey Golston

703
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 1: missed all of the offseason and training camp, and he

704
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 1: came in and he was contributing on a pretty good level.

705
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 1: They're considering he didn't practice much. Osa had a really

706
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:56,400
Speaker 1: good rookie season. He was thrown in there when Neville

707
00:34:56,440 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 1: got hurt. He did a nice job. Obviously, Micah Parsons

708
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 1: was the unanimous Rookie of the Year. So he has

709
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 1: a pretty good track record with getting these rookies in

710
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 1: a role that's comfortable for them. And that's what all

711
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 1: the players say it is he knows how to dummy

712
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 1: it down for them to understand immediately, but it's not

713
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:20,760
Speaker 1: so it's not so easy to recognize for the offensive

714
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 1: coordinators to figure out. And that's the balance I think

715
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 1: for all coaches. Let me flip this on its head

716
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:30,920
Speaker 1: a little bit. What like between those two Jalen Tilbert

717
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:36,319
Speaker 1: and Sam Williams, whose success will mean more to the Cowboys? Like,

718
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:38,880
Speaker 1: and my point is, like, if Jalen Tilbert is a

719
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:43,240
Speaker 1: seven eight hundred yard receiver right away fifty sixty seventy catches,

720
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:45,719
Speaker 1: that could be huge for an offense that we all

721
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:50,399
Speaker 1: agree has lost some talent Sam Williams, And I mean,

722
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,239
Speaker 1: that's wonderful. The more you can do, that's great. But

723
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 1: like there are guys again, I think they've done a

724
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,240
Speaker 1: better job of addressing that. I think there are guys

725
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 1: that can pick up that slack. I'm hoping Dante Fowler

726
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,399
Speaker 1: can have a great season. I'm hoping for more from

727
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,359
Speaker 1: Micah Parsons to Marcus Lawrence is as healthy as he's

728
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:07,319
Speaker 1: been in a while, Like, there are veterans on this

729
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 1: team that can and should pick up that slack. Like

730
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:13,840
Speaker 1: if I can choose between the two, if Jalen Tolbert's

731
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 1: not ready to go and not ready to be a

732
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 1: productive pro right away. That could mean big time trouble

733
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,879
Speaker 1: for this offense, Like all of a sudden, you're looking

734
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 1: at games where like nobody can get open. I just

735
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,280
Speaker 1: I think it's more important for him to be successful

736
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:29,359
Speaker 1: than Sam. I mean, if they signed Julio Jones, would

737
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 1: you be okay with it? I think you're I think

738
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:34,800
Speaker 1: you're signing as long as you're something that doesn't address

739
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 1: your problem. Your problem right now has health. He is

740
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 1: a guy that over the last how many years of

741
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 1: his career, he can't stay healthy. Like literally, he just

742
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:44,360
Speaker 1: cannot stay healthy. So I don't know that you're bringing

743
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 1: in somebody that really helps you because you don't you

744
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,360
Speaker 1: can't trust him to be healthy. Yeah, I'd be okay

745
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 1: with it, just in the sense of like you're throwing

746
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 1: you're just throwing numbers at the problem. And as long

747
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 1: as I mean, as long as you're not expecting twenty

748
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 1: sixteen Julio Jones to walk through the door. But if

749
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 1: I mean any receiver that wanted to sign for cheap

750
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,479
Speaker 1: who's capable of starting, I'd be fine with it, because

751
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 1: I their opinion, in my opinion of like what they

752
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 1: have at receiver are drastically different right now, and I

753
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 1: can't wait to see who's right. And I just think

754
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 1: that that, you know, we said it last week, give

755
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 1: these guys an opportunity. You know, you bring in a

756
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 1: veteran like that. Now, yes, you can learn the offense

757
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 1: and you know he could probably pick it up whenever

758
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 1: you bring him in. But you're giving these young guys

759
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,280
Speaker 1: a chance. But you know, if you come, you're getting

760
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 1: into camp and you're thinking, I don't know, I'm not

761
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,279
Speaker 1: sure if Gallop will be ready, don't know much about

762
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:39,800
Speaker 1: any of these other guys. I'm throwing some more numbers

763
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 1: at the problem and seeing that you're gonna throw some

764
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 1: numbers into your you know, salary cap. But yeah, and

765
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 1: that's the thing. Somebody it needs to be. I think

766
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 1: they need a veteran. I just think a guy like Julio,

767
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 1: you have to pay him significant money. He ain't come

768
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 1: into play just for free. And but I just don't

769
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 1: think it factors. It doesn't match up with what you

770
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 1: can expect from him from the standpoint of help. What

771
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 1: is signific for get money though? I mean at this,

772
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:05,399
Speaker 1: like with what Julio has put on tape these lads,

773
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:08,320
Speaker 1: did he take any less than twelve million for a

774
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 1: year better if he wants to. I can't imagine too

775
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:13,880
Speaker 1: many teams are lining up to pay. I get that

776
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,879
Speaker 1: version of Julio. Let's also remember like he doesn't have

777
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 1: to play, no, So that's why I'm saying I think

778
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 1: there is. That's where I think that's where a lot

779
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 1: of guys end up not playing football anymore, is because

780
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 1: what they're expecting and what they say is worth it

781
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 1: for them to put their bodies through, be away from

782
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 1: their families, all that stuff. It's it doesn't match up

783
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:33,360
Speaker 1: to the amount that teams are willing to pay. And

784
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 1: so it's just like, well, of course I'm not gonna

785
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 1: go pay for what you will and pay me, so

786
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 1: I guess I'm retired. Do you think the Cowboys would

787
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:42,879
Speaker 1: really entertain no that thought. I don't think so. That's

788
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 1: not unless unless unless he was willing to take a

789
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 1: substantial amount less than that, like if he's willing to

790
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 1: take four million, I don't think yes. But let's say

791
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:55,839
Speaker 1: he was willing to take four million, and I think

792
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 1: maybe the Cowboys look at a nail because they loved

793
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:00,319
Speaker 1: to bargain shop. We know that, so I do think

794
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 1: they would look at that and maybe say, maybe that's

795
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 1: worth it. If they if they think the player can

796
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 1: give him something, I think they think it's worth it.

797
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:08,800
Speaker 1: But I just don't see that with a guy like Julio.

798
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 1: He doesn't have to. He is already a Hall of Famer,

799
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 1: so at this point he's playing for love of the game.

800
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 1: He probably wouldn't be a starter. After everybody's healthy, I

801
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 1: wouldn't think at this point in his career. So if

802
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,840
Speaker 1: everyone's healthy, if everyone is healthy, he probably would be.

803
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 1: If everyone's healthy, including him, including him, Yeah, I mean

804
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 1: he's health. I still think call me them healthy. Healthy

805
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 1: Julio Jones is better than a healthy Michael Gallo. Yeah,

806
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 1: but do you think they would do that? Michael's a

807
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 1: future You think that you think they would make Julio

808
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 1: the starter over him? Again, That's where I think Cowboys.

809
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:46,359
Speaker 1: They loved their guys, and if they got their guys here,

810
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna bring somebody out. What are

811
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 1: you playing for? I'm not questioning. I'm saying Mike McCarthy

812
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 1: the future. He who depends on who you asking? Well,

813
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 1: I'm asking him, are you asking? Yeah? Well, no, you're

814
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 1: asking him on Sunday morning when they're about to play

815
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 1: against the Panthers or whoever. You're like, I mean, this

816
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 1: guy's a better player, I gotta play him. I get

817
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 1: all that. I'm just saying I don't I would be

818
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 1: shocked if the Cowboys made a move like that. That

819
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 1: just doesn't seem like the remo. I I agree with you,

820
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 1: and it's really I mean, I know I just said

821
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:17,839
Speaker 1: I'm concerned about receiver, but like I think they they

822
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:21,840
Speaker 1: seem content to roll with their guys and you know,

823
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 1: hopefully Gallup can come back asap, and once he's back

824
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 1: in the lineup, you know it's okay. So it should

825
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 1: be fine, especially if Tolbert is who we think he is.

826
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 1: I think, honestly, more going back to the tackle thing,

827
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 1: like there are some guys that are worth throwing five

828
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:39,439
Speaker 1: or six million dollars. Yeah, and you want to spend

829
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 1: some money, go go find those guys. Go find me

830
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 1: there there are swing tackles out there that are worth

831
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 1: overpaying again, like five six million dollars. There are guys

832
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 1: you could add to this defense. That's I'm not I'm

833
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 1: not in love with with what's available to you at

834
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:57,840
Speaker 1: receiver right now. Like will Fuller's intriguing, but his injury

835
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 1: problems are just as substantial obj injury. I can't I

836
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 1: can't wait to see what happens with Obj. Like I

837
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 1: wonder he's gonna hang around until like mid October and

838
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 1: then you know, as the league starting, Yeah, he's like,

839
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 1: who's good? Right? Can I get that? You know? The

840
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 1: Cowboys are like, this is a disaster. We have nothing

841
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 1: at receiver Odell healthy? Now can you go? Yeah, like

842
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 1: that that's gonna happen, like Odell's Odell's gonna sign somewhere

843
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:28,359
Speaker 1: on October sixteenth, and that team is gonna have just

844
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 1: blow the graphics out of the water. It's gonna be

845
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 1: a big thing. Can't wait. It's gonna be He's probably

846
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 1: gonna go back to the Rams. They're gonna be fine.

847
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 1: He's there now. And you know they don't you know,

848
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Speaker 1: they don't have it. They don't have a salary. Yeah,

849
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Speaker 1: they're only team. Don't have to do this, So it

850
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Speaker 1: is that is the unsexy likelihood. Yeah, and yeah, they'll

851
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Speaker 1: just keep stockpiling as they got to bowlers. Yeah, more

852
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Speaker 1: Final segment of The Break. It is our final segment

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Speaker 1: back up. A training camp will start up probably the

903
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Speaker 1: first second day of training camp. We'll have our same

904
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:39,399
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905
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:42,200
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00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 1: we get a little closer to training camp. Before we

907
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:46,840
Speaker 1: get our final question in, I have for you guys.

908
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 1: I do want to take a little time to let

909
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 1: Dave make an announcement for our listeners out there. Dave

910
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 1: take the floor. It's yours. Okay. I'm bad with emotions

911
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 1: and displays of vulnerability, working on that in therapy, so

912
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:05,880
Speaker 1: I'll just I'll just go yeah, as you might guess

913
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 1: when Derek T's is a big announcement. This is my

914
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 1: last week with the Dallas Cowboys, which makes this my

915
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:16,800
Speaker 1: last show as a Dallas Cowboys employee. That's really surreal.

916
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, yea, y'all know the way these

917
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:22,400
Speaker 1: things go. I told y'all a week ago, this has

918
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 1: all sort of been brewing behind the scenes for the

919
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 1: better part of a month. And I've been you know,

920
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:30,399
Speaker 1: you reflect a lot in situations like that, and man,

921
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 1: just what a what a what a trip it's been,

922
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 1: Like I don't know how well y'all remember this. I mean,

923
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:40,280
Speaker 1: y'all had been here, but y'all hired me on site

924
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 1: unseen as a twenty four year old idiot like which

925
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 1: it's you know, like I didn't even come in for

926
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 1: an interview, like you know, the draft was around the corner.

927
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:52,439
Speaker 1: Y'all needed to get somebody in. Derek was like when

928
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:54,760
Speaker 1: you know about the Cowboys, and I was like Tony

929
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 1: Romo and here we are, you know, I remember, Actually

930
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 1: I wanted to say rip to Miss Janette Scott as well.

931
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 1: Another terrible loss for the organization. First person I met

932
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:10,759
Speaker 1: when I walked into Valley Ranch and like you know,

933
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:15,800
Speaker 1: beautiful smile. I was just I remember being absolutely terrified.

934
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 1: I was like, what am I getting into? I'm a

935
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:21,279
Speaker 1: valley ranch right now? And nine years later, here we are,

936
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 1: like Derek Nick, thank y'all so much for taking a

937
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:30,799
Speaker 1: chance on me, helping me grow my career. The good

938
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 1: news is I'm not going very far, so everyone relaxed

939
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 1: a little bit. I'm taking a new job to cover

940
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. I don't want to pimp it too much

941
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:45,360
Speaker 1: on Derek's airwaves, but Fox Sports is hiring me to

942
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:49,319
Speaker 1: cover the Cowboys for them. I will be around. If

943
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 1: you like the way I covered the team, you can

944
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 1: still follow me. Do that so that I will say,

945
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 1: real quick, there's a good chance I'm at least holding

946
00:46:57,680 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 1: a gun to Day's hit. There is a gun under

947
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:01,360
Speaker 1: this tape right now, so he's going to have the

948
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 1: right answer that he will not be This will not

949
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:05,760
Speaker 1: be the last time you'll see him on our platform.

950
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 1: I will I will take a I will take a

951
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 1: stab in the dark and say looking for that good. Yeah,

952
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:14,400
Speaker 1: just just know there's some point at you, so I

953
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:18,320
Speaker 1: would be good. I would be shocked if this is

954
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 1: the last time I appear on a Dallas Cowboys dot

955
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 1: Com program, but for the time being, Uh yeah, I

956
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 1: mean it feels it's it's weird to say because like

957
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:30,800
Speaker 1: I will be doing a lot of the same stuff.

958
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:33,879
Speaker 1: You will still see me. But I am closing this

959
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 1: chapter on this company. That I mean. I al was

960
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 1: figured i'd be saying goodbye at some point, but it's

961
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 1: still weird as hell to be saying it. Um, you know,

962
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 1: I thought I might be here for two or four

963
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:49,399
Speaker 1: years if I didn't completely crap the bed, and here

964
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:53,439
Speaker 1: we are almost a decade later. I've in my thirties now,

965
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 1: mister Helman. Somebody called me mister Helman yesterday and I've

966
00:47:57,080 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 1: about had a panic attack. So without Ray, I'm bling though.

967
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 1: I just so Derek, I I owe you the world man.

968
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Nick you as well. I mean you,

969
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 1: you know, Derek brought me in, but you've kind of

970
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:11,920
Speaker 1: I've been your problem for the last nine years and

971
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:15,280
Speaker 1: we made it work a g I love you to death, buddy.

972
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:17,759
Speaker 1: I'm glad that we don't have to end our relationship,

973
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:19,720
Speaker 1: but I did. I just wanted to say. And again,

974
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 1: it's it's so surreal, like because you know, we're all

975
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 1: still here and a lot of There's a lot of

976
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:27,880
Speaker 1: people here, but over nine years, like the relationships that

977
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 1: you form with people that come and go. And that's

978
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:34,879
Speaker 1: what I'm gonna miss the most is the grunts us

979
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:37,719
Speaker 1: that are here doing it, the amount of work that

980
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 1: goes into this. So I did. I just wrote down

981
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 1: some names I wanted to say, y'all. Three obviously, Brian

982
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 1: brought us my guy forever, taught me more than I

983
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:51,400
Speaker 1: ever hope to remember about football. Kent Garrison, the amazing

984
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 1: work that I've done with you, Buddy, Ed Cahill, who

985
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:56,800
Speaker 1: was here before Kent, who brought Kent. And it's funny

986
00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:59,360
Speaker 1: how that works, you know. Rolan brought you in. Roland

987
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 1: brought me in. Uh. Chris Beam, Hey, buddy, I mean

988
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 1: there's so many people here that like their job is

989
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:09,880
Speaker 1: to make me look good and never get their recognition

990
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 1: for it. So Chris, I love you. Uh, Shannon Gross,

991
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:18,400
Speaker 1: Kevin tim and Scott Purcell, Roxanne Medina, my old homie,

992
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 1: Lindsay Draper, my producers on everything I do. Like, if

993
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 1: you've ever liked a video I've done, Caden Gates, Mike Marshall,

994
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:30,799
Speaker 1: Blake Silverthorne, Matt Kent, makes like everything back there run

995
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 1: and I don't even understand the rocket science he does. Um,

996
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 1: Nicky Harrison, Uh, Douglas Barraclough. Uh, I didn't forget you.

997
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 1: If you're listening, Taylor Stern, but you're yeah, I mean

998
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 1: Taylor Stern and I I think, I mean both of them. Yeah,

999
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:51,280
Speaker 1: I mean I don't need to say anything about Kelsey

1000
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:54,799
Speaker 1: Charles like she knows that's that's my I mean, we're

1001
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:57,799
Speaker 1: bound for life. If she needed me to say something

1002
00:49:57,800 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 1: on the show, I mean, that's just ridiculous. I know

1003
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 1: she's Yeah, I love you, Uh, Danny Serek, Matt O'Neill, like,

1004
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 1: I mean, remember Matt, Daddie Laddie. That feels like a

1005
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 1: lifetime ago. Um, did I forget anybody? Kay Clark love you?

1006
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 1: K Kay cried when I told her. Um. And then

1007
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 1: you know, mother of our bunch people that you like,

1008
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 1: you're friends with them and you know about them, and

1009
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:21,760
Speaker 1: then you're like, holy crap, I forgot we ever worked together?

1010
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 1: Nita streetcanth Laurence Soklum. You've been around a long time.

1011
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:29,400
Speaker 1: I know, man, Um, It's it. Yeah, A lot a

1012
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 1: lot goes into this and like we get to go

1013
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:34,800
Speaker 1: on camera and look cool and talk about the cowboys.

1014
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:38,240
Speaker 1: But so many people put us here, and I wanted

1015
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 1: to make sure I said that. Um So, I hope

1016
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 1: I'm not rambling. Um it's it's been a wonderful journey.

1017
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 1: I wouldn't trade it for the world. I fully expect

1018
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:49,759
Speaker 1: to keep working with y'all. So that's that's sort of

1019
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 1: the thing I think that helps me hold it together

1020
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 1: is I don't really feel like I'm leaving. I'll be

1021
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 1: over in the other room with Todd Archer and Clarence

1022
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 1: Hill and those guys. Uh So you'll still see me,

1023
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 1: You'll still hear me, but maybe maybe not as often

1024
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:07,759
Speaker 1: inside this building. Yeah. Well, I mean what I love

1025
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 1: the most about what you've done is you've walked You

1026
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:15,279
Speaker 1: walked in here with twenty you said, twenty four. Yeah,

1027
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 1: you walked in here twenty four years old, and you

1028
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:20,720
Speaker 1: did it your way. And this is not the easiest

1029
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 1: place to work. You know, you got to understand it.

1030
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 1: Working for the cowboys, there's a kind of there's a

1031
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 1: cowboy way, you know, I mean, there's a way to

1032
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 1: do it, and you got to learn how to do that.

1033
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 1: But you also you never changed kind of who you were,

1034
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 1: and you walked in here with your hair messy and

1035
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 1: wearing a flannel, and you're gonna walk out of I

1036
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:40,719
Speaker 1: wore a flannel, perfect hair messy, with his headphones, with

1037
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:42,239
Speaker 1: his headphones done. I used to I used to say

1038
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:45,480
Speaker 1: all the time, when ye still does. I called it.

1039
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:48,839
Speaker 1: I called it Valley Ranch University because it's like as

1040
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:51,240
Speaker 1: I you'd come in, it was like you just walked

1041
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 1: by the three people. You could ask a question too,

1042
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 1: but you're listening to a big crid or something like that,

1043
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 1: and probably and uh no, but but but you know,

1044
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:00,799
Speaker 1: and and we I made this jokes several times. You

1045
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 1: got here, Well he's gonna be a rider, but what

1046
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:05,840
Speaker 1: are we gonna do with them? We won't have a

1047
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 1: lot of stuff on his plate? And I always said,

1048
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 1: you were the garage. Garage is empty. We just moved in.

1049
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 1: We don't know what to do with it. And now

1050
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 1: we can't park our car in here. We got all

1051
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 1: kind of crap because we just kept putting stuff on

1052
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:19,319
Speaker 1: your plate and you handled it. You grew up a lot,

1053
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:21,719
Speaker 1: but you didn't really ever change who you were. And

1054
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 1: I think that was that was big And all those

1055
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:27,920
Speaker 1: people that are are pissed off right now, not pissed off,

1056
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:29,880
Speaker 1: but they're gonna miss you, like I'm right there, like

1057
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:32,279
Speaker 1: we'll figure it out. But I don't know if I'm

1058
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:34,279
Speaker 1: gonna miss you, thank you. I don't know if I

1059
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 1: ever like truly learned the cowboy way, Like yeah, I

1060
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 1: mean i'd stick out like a sore or something. I'm

1061
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:42,759
Speaker 1: a little bit around here, but you've smelled it a

1062
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 1: little bit, a little bit older. But yeah, but you

1063
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:47,440
Speaker 1: you stay true to who you are. And I'll tell

1064
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 1: you this, Dave. I Um, when I think about all

1065
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:51,960
Speaker 1: the people and you mentioned a lot of people that

1066
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:54,880
Speaker 1: have left this building, which well, and I realized I

1067
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 1: didn't read the name, and Lord forgive me for that.

1068
00:52:57,719 --> 00:53:01,400
Speaker 1: William Boykins just the man behind the scenes with everything

1069
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 1: we do. Put he's running the stream right now. He's

1070
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:06,759
Speaker 1: probably listening to it. No, no, he did not touch me,

1071
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 1: he did not tech me, but he's probably listening right now.

1072
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:12,200
Speaker 1: This whole place is dedicated. This whole place would burn

1073
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 1: down if Will took more than like an hour off.

1074
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, shout out to you, buddy. Yeah I was.

1075
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 1: I was just gonna say that when I think about

1076
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 1: all the people that have left this building is well,

1077
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:24,319
Speaker 1: you know, that's the one thing Nick and I being

1078
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 1: here as long as we have, we've seen a lot

1079
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 1: of people come and go, and really good people, good

1080
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 1: quality people, And I still have a lot of relationships

1081
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:33,319
Speaker 1: with people that have left our team. And I will

1082
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 1: say this for the for the sake of those out

1083
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 1: there listening, you guys have to get comfortable with the

1084
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:39,960
Speaker 1: idea that we're going to lose good people over time,

1085
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:43,319
Speaker 1: because if we're not, that means we're not doing something right.

1086
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:46,880
Speaker 1: If there's someone that's working here and they're really talented

1087
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 1: and they keep growing and there's no opportunity beyond that,

1088
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:52,319
Speaker 1: and there are other people out there that have opportunities

1089
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:54,719
Speaker 1: that give them more chance to do the things that

1090
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:57,439
Speaker 1: they've been blessed to be able to do, they're gonna

1091
00:53:57,440 --> 00:54:00,319
Speaker 1: take those opportunities at some point. And that's something we

1092
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 1: gotta be comfortable with. And you guys, as fans, got

1093
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 1: to be comfortable with. We'll find more talent, bring you

1094
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:06,760
Speaker 1: more talent, But you guys gotta learn how to applaud

1095
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:09,319
Speaker 1: these guys who end up leaving because there's a greater

1096
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:11,160
Speaker 1: opportunity out there for them to grow and that's a

1097
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 1: that's a healthy thing. But I will say this about you, Dave.

1098
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 1: One things I love about you, and not every employee

1099
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:21,319
Speaker 1: is like this, as majority of employees are not like

1100
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:25,320
Speaker 1: this is you were the type of person that could

1101
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 1: be loved by everybody in the office, but you stayed

1102
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:31,440
Speaker 1: out of the fray of the office politics. That's a

1103
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:34,480
Speaker 1: hard thing to do. You have a lot of friends

1104
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:37,799
Speaker 1: up there on our floor, but whenever people are kind

1105
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 1: of having their little moments, which is the nature you

1106
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:42,000
Speaker 1: get five people together, they're gonna be there's gonna be drama.

1107
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:45,920
Speaker 1: Sometimes you managed to. I don't think I ever recall

1108
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:49,480
Speaker 1: a time when somebody was like Dave was the problem.

1109
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:51,760
Speaker 1: It was always Dave was just kind of like, guys,

1110
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:54,279
Speaker 1: I'm friends with everybody here. We're all good. And that's

1111
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:56,400
Speaker 1: what I love about you is you had that way

1112
00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 1: of having relationships with everybody, but you stayed out of

1113
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:02,240
Speaker 1: the drama. And and and that is a great, a really

1114
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:05,000
Speaker 1: really great thing, especially from a manager standpoint, When you

1115
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 1: have those kind of people, it makes a big difference

1116
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 1: because you need those people to stabilize all the other

1117
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 1: people that might be kind of losing it from time

1118
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:14,800
Speaker 1: to time and having their moments and having their feelings

1119
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:17,320
Speaker 1: at times that can kind of get a little fraid.

1120
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:19,480
Speaker 1: It's it's important to have those kind of people. And

1121
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:20,839
Speaker 1: so I just want you to know, man, I really

1122
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:23,920
Speaker 1: appreciate you. You go, you have gone on my my

1123
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:26,680
Speaker 1: little ring of honor of Cowboys employees that have worked

1124
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:28,640
Speaker 1: in my group. You're you're up there. You're in that

1125
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:31,560
Speaker 1: list of those kind of people they Alan Larkins of

1126
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:33,920
Speaker 1: the world. Like you're up there with those guys, and

1127
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:36,040
Speaker 1: you'll forever be there, And I consider you a friend.

1128
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:38,480
Speaker 1: And I get my patch on my jacket, like, yeah,

1129
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:40,600
Speaker 1: it's coming, it's in the mill, it's in the mills.

1130
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:47,359
Speaker 1: Make sure it's flannels. Yeah, I got here. I might

1131
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:48,880
Speaker 1: not have even been twenty four. I might have been

1132
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:50,880
Speaker 1: twenty three, but I got here not knowing what the

1133
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:52,759
Speaker 1: hell I was doing. And I was like, I'm just

1134
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:56,480
Speaker 1: gonna bust my ass and keep my head down. And

1135
00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:58,239
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't always do a great job of that.

1136
00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 1: I've ruffled feathers from time to time. I'm on plenty

1137
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:03,839
Speaker 1: of occasions, but like my goal has always been like

1138
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:07,879
Speaker 1: make great content, keep my head down, and I'll be honest,

1139
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:09,719
Speaker 1: Like for a while for a long time I was like,

1140
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:12,799
Speaker 1: is this the right attitude? Like maybe maybe I maybe

1141
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:15,160
Speaker 1: this isn't the way to go, but I can't argue

1142
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:17,280
Speaker 1: with the end result. I'll tell you this, I've grown

1143
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:20,360
Speaker 1: so much making mistakes when you're swinging for the fences.

1144
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:22,880
Speaker 1: I don't ever have a problem with that because as

1145
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:25,120
Speaker 1: a matter of fact, that's something that the organization tells

1146
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:27,200
Speaker 1: us to do. So in the times when you've made

1147
00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:29,960
Speaker 1: mistakes because you're trying to overreport, you're trying to do

1148
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:32,160
Speaker 1: your job really well, those are kind of things I

1149
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:34,520
Speaker 1: look at and I'm like, hey, I'll take that. I'd

1150
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:37,239
Speaker 1: rather that than have to be pushing you forward to say, hey,

1151
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:39,480
Speaker 1: do more. Figure out how you can do more, you know,

1152
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:41,560
Speaker 1: And you're right, and like, I don't know if it

1153
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:44,600
Speaker 1: feels good to leave and y'all will sign it, you know,

1154
00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:47,440
Speaker 1: y'all get somebody else who can come in and be great,

1155
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:50,440
Speaker 1: because that's, yeah, the leeway that you give us, the

1156
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:53,319
Speaker 1: stuff that you can do here just and that's you know,

1157
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:55,319
Speaker 1: credit to the cowboys. That's kind of the way they

1158
00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:57,399
Speaker 1: do things is like cowboy way and if you think

1159
00:56:57,440 --> 00:57:00,120
Speaker 1: you can do it, do it. Yeah, we would love

1160
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:02,640
Speaker 1: to be able to do like eight different things with

1161
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:07,759
Speaker 1: two people instead of eight, you know, And so the

1162
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:10,800
Speaker 1: skills that I have acquired here, I mean, it's it's incredible.

1163
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:13,320
Speaker 1: So thank you for that. And I don't want to

1164
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 1: say too much because I'm a very sensitive and emotional

1165
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 1: person this whole show, don't I'll cry, No, but I'm

1166
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:26,480
Speaker 1: gonna miss you so much. Do you have no idea?

1167
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:28,600
Speaker 1: You don't have no idea. I have no clue how

1168
00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:32,280
Speaker 1: this show is gonna look like without you, because that's

1169
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:34,840
Speaker 1: all I know on this show. And I love the

1170
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:37,720
Speaker 1: work that you've done. I love how real you are.

1171
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:40,760
Speaker 1: I love how you don't put up a front. You're

1172
00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:43,640
Speaker 1: just you. And I appreciate people like that. I love

1173
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:46,320
Speaker 1: when I meet people like that. I'm gonna miss you,

1174
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:49,200
Speaker 1: and you see, I'm really sorry, I'm so sensitive, but

1175
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:52,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna miss you sitting behind me. You know, we

1176
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:54,680
Speaker 1: don't talk much up there because you're with your headphones

1177
00:57:54,760 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 1: all the time. But but you're like than me, I guess.

1178
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:05,200
Speaker 1: But like I feel that the OG crew, not that

1179
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 1: the people we have now are not Ogs or anything

1180
00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:10,320
Speaker 1: like that, but the initial crew, the people I met

1181
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:13,720
Speaker 1: when I got here, our little crew is like, literally,

1182
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:16,840
Speaker 1: you're basically I mean, other than me, for you know,

1183
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:21,000
Speaker 1: you're the last one to go. And I miss all

1184
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:23,720
Speaker 1: those people so much, even though it was not always

1185
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:27,040
Speaker 1: very pretty and there were issues here and there and drama,

1186
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:31,160
Speaker 1: but I really really miss that our little group. And

1187
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:34,200
Speaker 1: I'm I'm just gonna miss hearing your voice and hearing

1188
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 1: your opinions. And I've learned so much from you as well.

1189
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:40,880
Speaker 1: So very very sad to see you go, but I'm

1190
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:44,120
Speaker 1: extremely happy and excited for your new job and your

1191
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:47,040
Speaker 1: new journey. You almost got me. You almost got me

1192
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:49,480
Speaker 1: that thank you? Did you you said you're one of

1193
00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:51,200
Speaker 1: the last ones I thought of Rob? Did you even

1194
00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:54,920
Speaker 1: mention Rob? Oh my god, I want to know. I

1195
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:58,080
Speaker 1: know how you feel about Rob. That's one of those

1196
00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:01,200
Speaker 1: things sometimes you do that you you're just looking to

1197
00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:05,000
Speaker 1: make sure you don't forget somebody and you and inevitably, yeah, yes,

1198
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:07,680
Speaker 1: and that is your relationship with Rob is No, that's

1199
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:10,320
Speaker 1: your and And it's kind of like Kelsey like I'm like,

1200
00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:12,720
Speaker 1: I don't need to say anything to Rob because he knows.

1201
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:17,880
Speaker 1: But for yes, Rob Phillips my guy. Uh, Yeah, that's

1202
00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:20,040
Speaker 1: my brother, Like we I mean him and I have

1203
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:23,320
Speaker 1: been grinding through this thing for almost a decade at

1204
00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:26,440
Speaker 1: this point. And that's the day, the day that I

1205
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:29,960
Speaker 1: told y'all he heard a whisper or something and he

1206
00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:32,160
Speaker 1: just he looked at me and like, like me and

1207
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:35,120
Speaker 1: Rob do like Rob and I communicate through gritted teeth

1208
00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:37,480
Speaker 1: most of the time on the off chance somebody's listening.

1209
00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:42,080
Speaker 1: He was like, are you leaving me? Like, yeah, I'm sorry.

1210
00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:45,240
Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna wait to tell you. Uh, Rob Phillips,

1211
00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:47,400
Speaker 1: you're the man. It's been a pleasure working with you

1212
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:49,040
Speaker 1: and again, and I think that's part of it too,

1213
00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:53,120
Speaker 1: is like I'll see him in three weeks um, but yeah,

1214
00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:55,520
Speaker 1: I'll be a camp together. We will. I guarantee you,

1215
00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:58,520
Speaker 1: we will have you on shows. It's gonna still happen.

1216
00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:02,960
Speaker 1: It's you know, hey, chase your dreams. And that's my

1217
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:05,880
Speaker 1: dream in life was to be a sportswriter. And that's

1218
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:09,120
Speaker 1: like like at the age of twenty six, people would

1219
01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:10,520
Speaker 1: be like, well, what's your dream job, and I'm like,

1220
01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:12,240
Speaker 1: I have it. I mean, I never thought I'd work

1221
01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:13,919
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys, but this is what I always wanted

1222
01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:16,919
Speaker 1: to do. Having you know, I've I've traveled the whole

1223
01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:19,800
Speaker 1: country in this job. I've been to Europe because of

1224
01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:23,959
Speaker 1: this job. I've seen these amazing cowboy moments. I've gotten

1225
01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:28,280
Speaker 1: to know these amazing players. But the thing that'll stick

1226
01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:30,880
Speaker 1: with me more than anything about the Dallas Cowboys is

1227
01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:32,960
Speaker 1: the people I met here, in the relationships I made.

1228
01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:35,880
Speaker 1: I can't say enough about it. Yeah, we're gonna miss you, buddy,

1229
01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:38,480
Speaker 1: but we'll see you around and we'll still have you

1230
01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:42,320
Speaker 1: back and get your opinions on things, and and so

1231
01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:44,320
Speaker 1: we'll just we'll make it work. We'll make it work.

1232
01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:47,040
Speaker 1: Looking forward, but good luck to you, man, I am.

1233
01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:49,360
Speaker 1: I'm very excited to see where this goes. I think

1234
01:00:49,360 --> 01:00:52,120
Speaker 1: you're gonna have some really great opportunities there. And I

1235
01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:54,760
Speaker 1: would not be shocked at all if I start seeing

1236
01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:57,680
Speaker 1: you on national programs like like you're the stephen A.

1237
01:00:57,800 --> 01:01:01,240
Speaker 1: Smith of Fox Sports and Dave's up there just giving

1238
01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:03,480
Speaker 1: these hot takes. I would not be shocked at all.

1239
01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:05,320
Speaker 1: Y'all all let me show up and do TV and

1240
01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:07,920
Speaker 1: a flannel. I don't know if Fox might be like

1241
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:10,000
Speaker 1: a buddy, gotta do the manni suit, Noddy, Yeah, we

1242
01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:11,800
Speaker 1: gott they're gonna make you do the man. I don't

1243
01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:13,680
Speaker 1: think anybody wants to see me in a suit that tight,

1244
01:01:13,840 --> 01:01:18,760
Speaker 1: But we'll see all right, guys, we appreciate you joining us.

1245
01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:20,960
Speaker 1: It's our rap. We're gonna be back at the beginning

1246
01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:22,280
Speaker 1: of training camp. Will we go out Knox in our

1247
01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:25,600
Speaker 1: California late July? Makes you tick the website for more

1248
01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:27,800
Speaker 1: information on when we'll be out there, when we'll start

1249
01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:29,840
Speaker 1: up our shows till then for Nick even, Dave Hellman,

1250
01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:32,000
Speaker 1: Amber Garcia. I am Derek Eagleton. This has been The

1251
01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:37,960
Speaker 1: Break live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. This has

1252
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:40,800
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1253
01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:42,600
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