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Speaker 1: Hi everyone, I'm Kitty Kuric and this is next question zoram.

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Speaker 1: Mom Donnie is perhaps the most well known and polarizing

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Speaker 1: figure in democratic politics today. His run for mayor of

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Speaker 1: New York has captured national attention with his self proclaimed

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Speaker 1: democratic socialist policies like universal childcare, free buses, rent freezes,

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Speaker 1: and city owned grocery stores. Warning, we did have a

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Speaker 1: few technical difficulties, but we managed to power through. So

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Speaker 1: even when he freezes, you can still hear his answers.

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Speaker 2: Hey, how's the goldlin.

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Speaker 1: Very nice to meet you. Thanks so much for doing this.

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Speaker 1: I really appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Please, the pleasure's online. It's holy to be here.

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Speaker 1: So let's get started, because you've got people to see,

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Speaker 1: in places to go. I know that, but with the

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Speaker 1: election less than a week away, I thought our time

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Speaker 1: could best be used addressing some of the questions people

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Speaker 1: have about your psians, your vision for New York City,

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Speaker 1: and about you in general. So let's get started if

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Speaker 1: we could this week. As you know, your opponent Andrew

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Speaker 1: Cuomo Warren voters quote, if Mom Donnie wins, you're going

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Speaker 1: to see Trump come in here and take over New

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Speaker 1: York City, and then Donald Trump himself, how did plans

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Speaker 1: to quote send more than the National Guard, i e.

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Speaker 1: The military into cities across the country. So I'm curious,

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Speaker 1: how will you handle if it happens, if the National

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Speaker 1: Guard or members of the US military are actually deployed

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Speaker 2: I think we first have to be clear that this

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Speaker 2: is completely unacceptable and has nothing to do with the

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Speaker 2: so called justification of crime. If it had to do

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Speaker 2: with crime, then Donald Trump would be sending the National

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Speaker 2: Guard into the eight out of ten states that have

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Speaker 2: the highest crime rates. But he's not because those are

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Speaker 2: all run by Republicans. I agree with ANLANTIPD Commissioner Jessica

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Speaker 2: Tish that we do not need the National Guard here

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Speaker 2: deliver safety. That's what we have the NYPD for. And

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Speaker 2: if Donald Trump was to look to make good on

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Speaker 2: we've seen elsewhere in the country, where you utilize every

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Speaker 2: did in California, where you had the mayor, the Attorney General,

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Speaker 2: the National Guard, And to actually make clear to New

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Speaker 2: is we've had a mayor who has oftentimes sought to

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Speaker 2: avoiding the administration because of the fact that his personal

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Speaker 2: freedom has been in part secured by his willingness to

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Speaker 2: further the president's immigration agenda. And I think for Andrew

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Speaker 2: Cuomo to say that my election would mean the entrance

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Speaker 2: of Donald Trump into the city, it obscures the fact

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Speaker 2: that electing Andrew Cuomo would mean that we'd have Donald

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Speaker 2: Trump's puppet right here in city Hall, because that's who

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Speaker 2: he has been and that's what's on the ballot.

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Speaker 1: Last week, ICE agents rated street vendors in Chinatown. Every day,

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Speaker 1: these agents are targeting immigrants who are arriving for routine

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Speaker 1: hearings at twenty six Federal Plaza. In July, ICE agents

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Speaker 1: descended on a baseball field and Riverside Park, questioning about

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Speaker 1: a dozen eleven to fourteen year olds. Now, imagine your

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Speaker 1: who's your first call, what's your plan?

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Speaker 2: I think first, to be clear, coordination with ICE is

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Speaker 2: akin to capitulating to Donald Trump's agenda. That's what we've seen.

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Speaker 2: This is a reckless entity that cares little for the

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Speaker 2: rule of law and even less for the people that

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Speaker 2: it's supposed to serve, and it has transformed the sites

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Speaker 2: it is critically important that we have a city that

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Speaker 2: makes clear it's proud of its sanctuary city status, it

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Speaker 2: is actually going to stand up for immigrant New Yorkers

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Speaker 2: and reminds everyone of their actual rights in this city.

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Speaker 2: We've heard from Tom Homan that the more educated a

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Speaker 2: what I would do. I would make clear to New

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Speaker 2: That is something that Eric Adams has refused to say

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump has made no secret of his disdain for you.

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Speaker 1: He's threatened to take federal money away from the city.

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Speaker 1: He's called you a communist, he said you're going to

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Speaker 1: So you have the floor. Mister mom Donnie, what would

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Speaker 2: Well, to the President, I would say time and again

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Speaker 2: that when you ran your campaign to lead this country,

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Speaker 2: being to take on the cost of living crisis to

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Speaker 2: deliver cheaper groceries. If that is ever a conversation you

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Speaker 2: But if you want to pursue your promise to create

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Speaker 2: in New York City, because for far too long, what

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Speaker 1: You know, there's so many things you want to do,

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Speaker 1: and as I can see behind you from all these posters,

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Speaker 1: universal childcare, free and fast buses. You want city owned

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Speaker 1: grocery stores, and a rent freeze and debt. Help pay

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Speaker 1: for these things, You've said you want to raise taxes

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Speaker 1: How concerned are you though, that people and companies will

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Speaker 2: You know, I often go back to the statistics that

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Speaker 2: look into this question in previous years, and the Fiscal

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Speaker 2: found that the top one percent leave it one fourth

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Speaker 2: and when they do leave, it's often to other high

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Speaker 2: that it's my responsibility that for every single dollar that

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Speaker 2: for far too long, when New Yorkers have looked at

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Speaker 2: it's my job to show that every single one of

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Speaker 2: no matter how much money they're making.

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Speaker 1: I know that income inequality has really been the cornerstone

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Speaker 1: But I'm curious, how do you balance without making tax

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Speaker 1: that with making sure that income inequality is addressed, because

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Speaker 1: you don't want to go overboard and send these businesses

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Speaker 1: to other cities, of course, because they're very important drivers

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Speaker 2: They are critical parts of the New York City economy,

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Speaker 2: and they're also critical parts of what it means to

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Speaker 2: be a New Yorker. And what I've heard from many

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Speaker 2: fact that New York City has been expensive for a

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Speaker 2: Also impacts these businesses because it makes it harder for

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Speaker 2: that means businesses have to actually pay childcare stipends to

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Speaker 2: also that we're going to pair this with actually streamlining

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Speaker 2: That does not make much sense to me either. And

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Speaker 1: As you well know, running New York City is a

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Speaker 1: huge job. Eight point five million people, bigger than thirty

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Speaker 1: You've served in the New York Assembly for three terms,

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Speaker 1: and You've heard this repeatedly, but I think it's important

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Speaker 1: Do you have enough experience to do this job?

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Speaker 2: Yes. I have the experience of leading both my Assembly

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Speaker 2: One of the things I'm most proud of is having

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Speaker 1: it is an ambitious agenda, but many of the things

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Speaker 2: You know and I've heard this also from Governor Cuomo

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Speaker 2: It means cutting tax breaks to your wealthiest donors while

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Speaker 2: And I am confident of our campaign's ability to deliver

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Speaker 2: I'm proud to not only have the endorsement of Governor Hochle,

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Speaker 2: It is quite clear from the Mayor's office itself. We

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Speaker 1: You know, she was at an event with you, Governor

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Speaker 1: It right now. As you know, one in three Jewish

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Speaker 2: You know, I do not begrudge Jewish new Yorkers for

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Speaker 2: It's not just about the commitments that I have made

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Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting the role religion has played in

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Speaker 2: It was in bonse to Governor Cuomo going on a

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Speaker 2: He then, later on, as he was accepting Eric Adams's endorsement,

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Speaker 2: Mayor Adams said that he was doing so to stop

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Speaker 2: this all while New Yorkers are turning on their TVs

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Speaker 1: Fourth, what lessons have you learned during the course of

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Speaker 2: You know, I think the key lesson for me is

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Speaker 2: to listen. To listen to New Yorkers. You know, so

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Speaker 2: often the impulse for politicians is to lecture. It is

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Speaker 2: what they should consider to be an urgent issue in

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Speaker 2: I asked New Yorkers what the number one concern in

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Speaker 2: I think it's so critically important for those of us

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Speaker 2: And to me, that comes from an expansive understanding of

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Speaker 1: If you're elected, will you be able to fix the

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Speaker 2: If I was the mayor, this wouldn't have happened.

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Speaker 1: Son Mandannie the technical difficulties. Thank you so much for

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Katie. I'm sorry about all the difficulties.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully that would be great. Maybe after you're elected, If

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