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It's the 20 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:25,759 Speaker 1: show that she has the secrets of success. Experience firsthand 21 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 1: by marketing and Brandon expert Rashan McDonald. I will know 22 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 1: he's given me advice on many occasions. In the case 23 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 1: you didn't notice, I'm not broke, you know He'll be 24 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: interviewing celebrity CEOs, entrepreneurs and industry decision makers. It's what 25 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:40,279 Speaker 1: he likes to do, it's what he likes to share. 26 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:43,680 Speaker 1: Now it's time to hear from my man, Rashan McDonald. 27 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 1: Money Making Conversations. Here we come. Welcome to Money Making Conversation. 28 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: I am your host, Rashan McDonald. Like I tell everybody 29 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: every week, it's time to stop reading other people's success 30 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 1: stories and actually start writing your own. And I always 31 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: tell people to leave with your gifts. Here people talk 32 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 1: about their gifts. You talk about their passion, well, stop 33 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: talking about it, lead with it and don't let your age, friends, family, 34 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 1: or coworkers stop you from planning or living your dreams. 35 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 1: My interviews I bring on money Making Conversations are for you. 36 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: I give you access to celebrity CEOs, entrepreneurs and what 37 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 1: I like to call industry decision makers. My next guest 38 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 1: is a dear friend, Bill Duke. Bill Duke is an 39 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 1: actor director and producing Hollywood. More than forty years of 40 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 1: experience on screen and behind the camera. Duke has currently 41 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:29,919 Speaker 1: started in Steven Sarderbergh's new crime drama No Southern Mood, 42 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: Debating July one on HBO Max, which I do have 43 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:36,639 Speaker 1: that I will be watching him July one. His acting 44 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 1: credits include recent television and feature film roles and shows 45 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 1: like Black Lightning, I Love More Black Lightning, That's My 46 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 1: crew over there, The Oval, and the critically acclaimed film Mandy, 47 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 1: and other movies like High Flying Bird. He also known 48 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:51,919 Speaker 1: for roles and Predator. Y'all remember Predator been Predator not 49 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: you know, Couldnt see Nothing, American jiggild Car car Wass, 50 00:02:56,560 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 1: Come on Now, Action Jackson Commando who ministers to side Board, 51 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 1: ministers Board, That was Hard, That Buried on the Y, 52 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 1: Get Rich or Die Tried, X Men three, and many 53 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 1: more family TV projects. He's on the show to talk 54 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 1: about the movie which we had just said, Southern, No 55 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:16,919 Speaker 1: Southern Move, the Duke Media Foundation, which I really want 56 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 1: to talk about, and you unite network please working the 57 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 1: money making conversation again. He is a signal by trade. 58 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 1: My man Bill do was good to see you Bill, 59 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 1: due Bill, you know what mean you we junk off 60 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 1: air because I remember making side five and I always 61 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 1: tell people this mall on the real I tell people 62 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 1: I pledged while I was in college and it changed 63 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: my life. It changed my life and fraterners in general. 64 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 1: I talked about fra turning again signal. You don't point 65 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: a signal like I can't see blue and white. But 66 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 1: I always tell people because a lot of people think 67 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 1: that fraterning to this row is about party and it's 68 00:03:55,840 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 1: about it's about having a good time, but really being 69 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 1: in a fraternity to change my perspective gave me a 70 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 1: clear understanding of the community. And I just wanted to 71 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 1: bring that up because you know, we both are passionate 72 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 1: about our fraternities and uh and we always are telling 73 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: people the value of fraternity. Talk about being a member 74 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:18,599 Speaker 1: of the segment of your of your organization for a second, Well, 75 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: first of all, it's a it's a very happy to 76 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:25,039 Speaker 1: be a part of it. And as you say, maybe 77 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 1: many people think about fraternities as party. You know, people 78 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:31,479 Speaker 1: party from time to time, but that's not the foundation 79 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 1: of it. The foundation of is a collaboration of brothers 80 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 1: coming together to really discuss and take action on issues 81 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 1: that we face as a culture in our community, from 82 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 1: business to whatever politics. But to have a discussion and 83 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 1: we don't have to agree on everything, but we have 84 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 1: mutual respect for each other and the fact that we 85 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 1: can honestly say what we feel without being judged, you know. 86 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 1: And that's that's the those statements that you say, I 87 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:05,719 Speaker 1: echo those statements, but in because of again, you know, 88 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:07,599 Speaker 1: it gives you a sense of balance. And that's why 89 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 1: I say, you know when you want to go out 90 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:11,479 Speaker 1: in the community, because you know, even though you're an actor, 91 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 1: your director, you produce many projects, it's about your brand, 92 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 1: and your brand is entertainment, and in entertainment it does 93 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 1: allow you to capture people's attention. And when you capture 94 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: people attention, that can allow you to go and and 95 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:28,599 Speaker 1: don't shape their minds, shape their experiences. And I know 96 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 1: we're gonna show to talk about, you know, the movie 97 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 1: that you're starting in July, Onest is gonna be on 98 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: HBO Max. But Bill, do when you talk about your 99 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 1: Deep Duke Media Foundation, tell us why it's important and 100 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 1: why did you started? Well, um, it's the same reason 101 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: I started my network. M we our generations. I think 102 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:56,799 Speaker 1: have an obligation to be something for our children that 103 00:05:57,200 --> 00:06:00,840 Speaker 1: is better than what we inherited and what we are 104 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:04,239 Speaker 1: in today. We are in a day of the vision um, 105 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:12,040 Speaker 1: from the COVID two politics to race um. What are 106 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 1: we leaving our children? And that is the real question, 107 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 1: because we have to leave them something that gives them hope. 108 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:25,559 Speaker 1: And so I created my foundation. We teach basically two things, 109 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 1: media literacy for young people are coming into the business 110 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: and really want to understand with the business of the 111 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:36,600 Speaker 1: industry really is and how it's changing. He went from 112 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: film and television to media. When I when I came 113 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 1: up and I say this all the time, I had 114 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 1: one of the first cell phones, and I think you 115 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:48,919 Speaker 1: did to my brother? Do you remember the size of it? 116 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 1: Come on, now, come am, I exaggerated. I'm holding next 117 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: to my head I had used to hang and it 118 00:06:57,640 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: had a box with remember the box? Hell that was 119 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:02,719 Speaker 1: that was like our first purse. Remember it looked like 120 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:04,919 Speaker 1: a purse. They had a strap on shoulder. You had 121 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 1: the Holy Day like a melo detector. Really, that's right. 122 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 1: And we felt we were cool, man, We felt we 123 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: were the stuff right well, And there was no internet then, 124 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 1: and so I try to talk to him about the 125 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 1: evolution of things with young people from those times to 126 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: what they have now and how they can leverage it 127 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 1: to their benefit of their brands, not just being an 128 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 1: actor or director, but what do you believe in? 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We know that the beauty of knowledge, 177 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: and that's what you're teaching to knowledge because without knowledge, 178 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 1: that you became either go backwards or your main station area. 179 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:49,319 Speaker 1: And that was always impacts the black community because we're 180 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 1: always battling the fighting for education and were always battling 181 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 1: the fight for an opportunity. Same thing happened with the 182 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 1: COVID nineteen when it hit. Who did it affect African 183 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 1: Americans and people of color? Why least educated? Uh, we're 184 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:05,439 Speaker 1: living in living conditions with mass transit situations and also 185 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 1: naturally poor dieting situations. And so then that becomes why 186 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 1: is that important? And why is it important to note 187 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 1: where the bank account is wise it know what percentages 188 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 1: are wise. You know, if you're in a district, there's 189 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 1: gonna you know, do unfair housing on you. You know, 190 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:24,559 Speaker 1: we continually can't get ahead because we're spending a different dollar. 191 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 1: And that's what you're trying to say right now in 192 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 1: this interview, correct Bill, do yes, sir. I'm trying to 193 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 1: get us to understand what money is and how we 194 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 1: can use it to our benefit. And that's what we 195 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 1: teach the young people in our foundation because if I'm 196 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 1: just saying, we as a culture to do it ourselves. 197 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 1: We can't depend upon others doing it for us. And 198 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 1: so the men and women in our community have to 199 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 1: pass on what we've learned from our mistakes so that 200 00:11:56,679 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 1: our young people don't make the same mistakes. You know, 201 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 1: I when you know, when I look through my life, 202 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 1: you know, I would say that I have made mistakes, 203 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 1: but I don't know if they are mistakes or the experiences, 204 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 1: because if you learn from it, then it's not a mistake. 205 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 1: But you continue to make the same mistake, then there's 206 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:19,719 Speaker 1: a problem because you didn't learn. And so I've advanced 207 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 1: myself politics politics, it's called that's called being able to 208 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 1: to to to negotiate the right situation because you know yourself, Bill, 209 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 1: your your career has been tied to relationships. Your career 210 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 1: has been tied to people extending their hand, either by 211 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 1: surprise or one that you may sure you was in 212 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 1: the position to shake. And that's what also in the 213 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 1: financial word that you're teaching that you have to let 214 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 1: black people understand, and that I talked about it all 215 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 1: the time. We can talk a little Hollywood talk. It's 216 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 1: like I've been in Hollywood since nine two. Okay, first 217 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 1: writing job, I did stand up comic Pride to that, 218 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 1: and I just always see these white producers go on 219 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:01,559 Speaker 1: meetings while they were working. They have a writer job. 220 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:04,479 Speaker 1: They go they're looking for another job, established the relationships. 221 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:07,680 Speaker 1: We don't think like that. And if they got terminated 222 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 1: or the contract they get to extend, they shook their 223 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:14,560 Speaker 1: hands that thank you for the opportunity, instead of traditionally 224 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 1: African American people of color get mad, frustrated, pointing fingers. Okay, 225 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 1: guess what you're blowing that relationship. The relationship is that 226 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 1: things don't always go the way you play. Act like it, Okay, 227 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 1: understand the value of your money. Am I wrong in 228 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:33,959 Speaker 1: these assessments that I'm making the build? Do you are 229 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 1: brilliantly putting it together? Um? Malcolm X said something. He 230 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 1: said two things that I learned a lot from. First 231 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 1: he said, don't be playing checkers in the chess game. 232 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 1: And number two, he said, no matter how good a 233 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 1: football clearer you are, the name of the game is baseball. 234 00:13:57,640 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 1: You But to get yourself a damn back, absolutely, because 235 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 1: your competition is gonna say you're a good You're a good, good, 236 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:11,199 Speaker 1: good little football player. Keep running them out of that 237 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 1: basis you're good, right right right? But they were, they 238 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:18,080 Speaker 1: were they hitting home runs with that. We have to 239 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 1: be again to understand the game, how it's played, what 240 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 1: the rules are. We can make our own game also, 241 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 1: But the fact of the matter is is that we 242 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 1: have to study a knowledgeable take the time to learn 243 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 1: and understand the business. You know, uh, I know, you're 244 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 1: on my show here today money make conversation, Bill, do 245 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 1: talk about no sudden mood just debate. In July one 246 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 1: on HBO, Max and you know, the brilliant producer, director 247 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 1: Steven Soderberg. But prior to all going on the air, 248 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 1: you mentioned the word bid with you know, like like 249 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 1: that was like, did did you not mention that to me? Yes? 250 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 1: I mentioned the West uh and and they send people 251 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 1: to Boston on trains when they lose. And when people 252 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 1: play me, they learn from me. I teach, so so 253 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 1: you know, anytime you're ready, I'm gonna teach. I love 254 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 1: my young students and anytime let me know. Okay, I'll 255 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 1: fly it. Bill, What you're gonna do to me? Man, 256 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 1: see what you are doing, fly me in, whoop my butt, 257 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 1: and then fly me back. And that didn't happen like 258 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 1: that because that gives you more smack brown. Okay, I'm 259 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 1: gonna fly myself. And you see, people don't know Bill 260 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 1: like I know Bill. They just see that little dark 261 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 1: character you know, sinister, you know, don't ever smile you 262 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 1: walking around. He might shoot you, knife you, you know, 263 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 1: to send you the hell burn. That's the Bill, y'all know. 264 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 1: Or moving to TV. This the Bill I know right here, 265 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 1: you know, smack talk off al laughing all the time. 266 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 1: Uh go go go tell me I come from filth 267 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 1: War Texas. I grew up with nber black people. He 268 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 1: gonna ask me, all fair, have you ever heard of 269 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 1: being with this? Only asking me? Do I know dominoes See, 270 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 1: you can't insult me like that. No, mobile, dude, Man, 271 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 1: You're gonna have problems. I'm just I'm I was just exploring, 272 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 1: you know, I was asking you a question of right, right, right? 273 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 1: But he was a brother brother the brother right there 274 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 1: was the brother of the brother conversation. Okay, cool, okay. 275 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 1: I just had to bring that up in the middle 276 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 1: of this very important interview about our relationship. And it's 277 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 1: still intact, it's still strong, and we'll keep winning. Now 278 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 1: let's get back to the movie. That's why you brought 279 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 1: the dog Chiel anything I see what dog to you? 280 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 1: I know, straight up, gonna be serious. Talk about the movie. 281 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 1: Talk about your involvement. You work with Stephen before and 282 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 1: other movie projects, so it's a relationship there. Talk about 283 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 1: your involvement in this movie. First of all, I'm gonna 284 00:16:57,360 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: thank Stephen for putting me in the movie. Worked with him, mom, 285 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 1: you know the lining high Flying Bird and this is 286 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 1: my third phone working with him and working with Matt 287 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 1: Damon and Don Schetto was a blessing, a gift with 288 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:16,400 Speaker 1: a great time. Don Cheto, as you said, serious films, 289 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 1: but he is one of on set, one of the 290 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:22,919 Speaker 1: funniest people I've ever met in my life. He has 291 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 1: an incredible sense of humor, a great heart, just great people, 292 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 1: you know, and making the movie. We're in Detroit. By 293 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 1: the way, I've said this before, Detroit is changing. I 294 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 1: mean they're really cleaning the city up. They're restoring the old, 295 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 1: like you know, the older historical buildings like churches, et cetera. 296 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:44,200 Speaker 1: And it was great to see the city come back 297 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:47,119 Speaker 1: to life and then move beyond that. It's like, really 298 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:51,679 Speaker 1: some good things about absolutely besides great food, what grows 299 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 1: in the forest trees, sure, you know what else? Girls 300 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 1: in the forest, our imagination, a sense of one day 301 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 1: and our family bonds grow too, because when we disconnect 302 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:08,680 Speaker 1: from this and connect with this, we reconnect with each other. 303 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 1: The forest is closer than you think. Find a forest 304 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:15,879 Speaker 1: near you and start exploring. I discover the forest dot Org, 305 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 1: brought to you by the United States Forest Service and 306 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 1: the ad Council. And we're live here outside the Perez 307 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 1: family home, just waiting for the and there they go 308 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 1: almost on time. This morning, Mom is coming out the 309 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:32,120 Speaker 1: front door strong with a double arm kid carry. Looks 310 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 1: like dad has the bags. Daughter is bringing up the rear. 311 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 1: Oh but the diaper bag wasn't closed. Diapers and toys 312 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:44,400 Speaker 1: are everywhere. Oh but mom has just nailed the perfect 313 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:47,920 Speaker 1: car seat buckle for the toddler. And now the eldest daughter, 314 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 1: who looks to be about nine or ten, has secured 315 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 1: herself in the booster seat. Dad SIPs the bad clothes 316 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 1: and they're off. Ah, but looks like Mom doesn't realize 317 00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:59,359 Speaker 1: her coffee cup is still on the roof of the car. 318 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 1: Very goes, That's a shame that mud was a fan favorite. 319 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:07,919 Speaker 1: Don't sweat the small stuff, just nailed the big stuff, 320 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 1: like making sure your kids are buckled correctly in the 321 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:11,879 Speaker 1: right seat for their agent's eyes. 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And that when you're get in 339 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 1: the room like that build because you know it's all 340 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:11,920 Speaker 1: like a good basketball team. You know you could you 341 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:13,679 Speaker 1: see all these good basketball players. You want to make 342 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 1: sure your free throws are right, your job shot right, 343 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 1: you're grabbing the rebound. How do you approach that when 344 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:21,680 Speaker 1: you're in the scene with talented other people? Does A 345 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 1: does A I gotta get my act together. I gotta 346 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 1: make sure I'm on porn? Or do you do? You do? 347 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:29,119 Speaker 1: You do? You talk to him? But prior to a scene. 348 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 1: How does want to approach that? If you're a young 349 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:34,880 Speaker 1: person breaking into the business. Well, if you're a young 350 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 1: person baking into the business, it's called show business. Business 351 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 1: part is about relationships and so used to put your 352 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 1: you know, Wayne Dyre says, every day we have went 353 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:49,199 Speaker 1: of two choices. If we could be a host to 354 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:52,959 Speaker 1: God or a hostage to our ego. Uh. In this business, 355 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 1: if you're hostage here ego, some people get away with it. 356 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:58,879 Speaker 1: But for us as a culture, I think that's a 357 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:04,640 Speaker 1: really bad idea. I think establishing relationships uh, and honing 358 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 1: your craft, because acting and directing a craft, so it's 359 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:11,879 Speaker 1: writing or other people are out partying, you should be 360 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:17,120 Speaker 1: home studying learning. Because when you party, you've accomplished something. 361 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 1: It's called the celebration. So the thing is is that 362 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:24,920 Speaker 1: we have to really start taking it seriously. Today we're 363 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 1: saying before life came into business, there was no internet, 364 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:33,160 Speaker 1: there was no social media. Young people today, Yeah, pictures 365 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 1: are important. But if you're an acting class that you 366 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:38,399 Speaker 1: all should be in and you're working on two or 367 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:43,160 Speaker 1: three scenes with other actors for the class, then what 368 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 1: you should do is if you want a picture plus 369 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 1: a reel film with your cell phone. The scene that 370 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:55,440 Speaker 1: you're rehearsing, you can cut that scene on your computer 371 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 1: and it edited, so you don't have to wait to 372 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 1: be discovered. You can you can discover you look a 373 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:04,680 Speaker 1: look at Easter for example. She started off with, like, 374 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 1: you know, podcasting web series that's well, wepisodes and so 375 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 1: did uh it's always sending in Philadelphia start off with webisodes. 376 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 1: Been on the air for nine years. So those people 377 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 1: they stopped waiting to make any sense absolutely well. I 378 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:23,439 Speaker 1: think that when you when you look at about a 379 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 1: lot of people do wait too long? They want that that. 380 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 1: I always tell people wait doing the lottery. You know 381 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:30,639 Speaker 1: they were doing that opportunity. They really do. Think it 382 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 1: works in Hollywood. You're gonna walk down the street and 383 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:34,439 Speaker 1: somebody gonna tap you on the shoulder. That is not 384 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,119 Speaker 1: high work. That you may have heard that story, but 385 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:39,719 Speaker 1: that's what that's what that's like winning the lottery. There 386 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 1: are people who do win tapping on the shoulder. M hm. 387 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 1: You know that. You know who's going that's happy on 388 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,120 Speaker 1: the shoulder person? Tell you get out the way because 389 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:51,880 Speaker 1: they want to get in front of you. It's called ejection. Yeah, 390 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 1: absolutely that gets tapped a lot. That's a lot of 391 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:57,639 Speaker 1: people understand about the entertainment, you know, because you know 392 00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 1: this for a factory or going in and the movie 393 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:01,639 Speaker 1: like this. And let's give you a little bit more 394 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 1: background on No Sudden Mood. It's a British story which 395 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 1: takes place in nineteen fifty four and the racially charged Detroit. 396 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 1: And we know Detroit has always been a community where 397 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:14,440 Speaker 1: where where the police has an issue. It was trow 398 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 1: Black you know, Moretown was there a group of small 399 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 1: time criminals who are hired on the mysterious circumstances to 400 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:23,360 Speaker 1: steal what they think is a simple document. They file 401 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:26,200 Speaker 1: up the master plan and guess what, it all goes 402 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:29,679 Speaker 1: as they say to hell. And you include all these situations. 403 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 1: So you have black people and white people trying to 404 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:36,719 Speaker 1: work together in nineteen fifty four right there, That tells 405 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 1: you it's gonna be intense because you know, you dealing 406 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 1: with high levels of racial prejudice and also black people 407 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 1: just can't move around like white people came back then. 408 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 1: That's right, So how does what role do you play 409 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:55,639 Speaker 1: in all of this? Bill Duke? Well, you you so 410 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 1: brilliantly and actually described the conditions of the time. Uh 411 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:09,680 Speaker 1: and um. In those days, you had confrontations based upon 412 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:17,160 Speaker 1: race and social positions. So if you were black, you 413 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 1: had to be able, as I said before, to be 414 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:22,359 Speaker 1: able to play chess in the chess games. So if they, 415 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 1: you know, had negotiators with them, you have to negotiate 416 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:30,959 Speaker 1: with the negotiations didn't go well, and they had guns. 417 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 1: You had to have guns, so you know, you you 418 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 1: could not negotiate with with someone who felt you were 419 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:44,239 Speaker 1: weak and unprepared. The only way you could negotiate with 420 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:47,160 Speaker 1: them is to look him in the eye. And they 421 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:51,440 Speaker 1: understood the consequences of disrespecting you. M So I played 422 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:56,360 Speaker 1: the head of the black gang and we negotiate over 423 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,400 Speaker 1: some issues that I don't want to give away now 424 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 1: give movie away, but we are negotiators and they don't 425 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 1: expect us to be that and they're surprised by it, 426 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:09,119 Speaker 1: but they do negotiate with us. Now, let me know 427 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:12,119 Speaker 1: when you look at movies, because we've seen how covid 428 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 1: has changed the game, and also streaming networks Netflix, Amazon, 429 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 1: you know, Hulu, Disney Plus have changed the game. They 430 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 1: opened in movies that were opening the theater, opening online 431 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:27,359 Speaker 1: and streaming and all they're doing the simul simulcastic. They 432 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 1: simulcastically they like they they were Cruella Crewella opening in 433 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 1: the theater as well as our Disney Plus and in 434 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:38,159 Speaker 1: the premium network. Have you seen a change in the 435 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 1: quality or it doesn't matter. They still producing high quality 436 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:44,160 Speaker 1: movies even for streaming as well as for the big theaters. 437 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:47,680 Speaker 1: Some of them are high quality and some of them 438 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 1: are not. Some people are giving cameras to make movies 439 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:56,200 Speaker 1: and they they've never studied directing, they've never studied writing 440 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 1: or anything because of relationship they have with the relative, 441 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,439 Speaker 1: somebody who has money. But I I I still believe 442 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 1: in people who take the time to study their discipline. 443 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 1: But I'm not going to say it's easy. It's not. 444 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 1: But you have to know, you know, you have to 445 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 1: read books. You know you have to you know, you 446 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:22,920 Speaker 1: you have to be able to understand structure, not only 447 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 1: the structure of the movie, but what is character structure. 448 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 1: You know, what is the beginning, middle, and end of 449 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 1: the movie. What is the storyline? What is the character line? 450 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 1: How do you hook people in emotionally to what you're 451 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 1: talking about? Those are crafts and skills that should be studied, 452 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 1: you know, and there are books at schools you can 453 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 1: go to. UM. You know that, you know that one 454 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:50,119 Speaker 1: of the great books. But Joseph Campbell's a hero with 455 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 1: a thousand faces. Even Steelberg, all those people use a 456 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:59,120 Speaker 1: hero of a thousand faces, and so do I. Another 457 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 1: great book, Machili The Five Season Cinematography. It's another. It's 458 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:08,680 Speaker 1: another great book, you know. UM. Another great UH book 459 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 1: is you know some super groalthy Art of War, right 460 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 1: the the The War of Art is another great book. 461 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:24,160 Speaker 1: Talks about how we procrastinatese and make excuses for not 462 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 1: doing what we know we should be doing, and what 463 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 1: are the patterns of that and how to get out 464 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 1: of that. So studying our craft, studying things, I think 465 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 1: it's very important for young people. Company h no sudden 466 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 1: moves of talking to Bill Duke about the movie that 467 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:41,640 Speaker 1: premiers July one on HBO. Max Uh. It's a great movie, 468 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,119 Speaker 1: she said in nineteen fifty four, it's about black people 469 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 1: white people. You know, there were no of video phones 470 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:51,479 Speaker 1: back there. You know, police violence still existed. It has 471 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 1: existed all our lives as an African American. We know that. 472 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 1: But when you look at what you've done. I talked 473 00:27:56,840 --> 00:28:00,199 Speaker 1: about the Duke Media Foundation. I talked about that, but 474 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 1: I always want to ship before we get off the 475 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 1: air and talk about you unite Unite network that I 476 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:09,439 Speaker 1: believe starts July twenty one, but you say there's up 477 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 1: and running June tent. Talk about the purpose of that 478 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 1: and why the importance of the unite networks. Unite. First 479 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,359 Speaker 1: of all, you will have the the page of the 480 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 1: um of our of our efforts up in the mount 481 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 1: June tenth, and on the first week in July, we 482 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:35,920 Speaker 1: will have a really serious soft launch. And I'm putting 483 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 1: a network together because I have children in my life. 484 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 1: I have a God daughter, I have children that I 485 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 1: love God sons sons, and I think we have responsibility 486 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 1: to leave them something called hope. Right right now, when 487 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 1: you turn the news on, it's all bad. I mean, 488 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 1: we're being divided in ways that we've always been at 489 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 1: the I Did country basically, etcetera. But now taking a 490 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 1: whole other level with the COVID, with racism, with the politics, 491 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 1: we're being divided in. Division is only going to lead 492 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 1: chaos for our children. So I in my network instead 493 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:19,239 Speaker 1: of the bad news and on the negativity. But we 494 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 1: report are all the good things that are happening in 495 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 1: this world. There are people around the world that are 496 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,479 Speaker 1: doing great. There's a program and I wish people watch 497 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:31,960 Speaker 1: it once a year on CNN called CNN Heroes. If 498 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 1: you're it's a show about individuals who are doing good 499 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 1: and that's what should be reported. So I have a 500 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 1: network that really is devoted to leave hope for our children, 501 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 1: to give them a historical context of all the sacrifices 502 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 1: that have been made so they could be here today 503 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 1: and do what they do. And so we have a 504 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 1: number of different programs on their network. I have the 505 00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 1: support from people like Anthony Anderson, Centric Entertainer, UM, a 506 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 1: lot of good folks. So we're launching it and hope 507 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 1: people check it out. Well, you know, the uh you 508 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 1: know that was that was a cue and a cap 509 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 1: of right there. You know, there were no sigma and 510 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 1: any sigmas helping you out and your I'm just saying, 511 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 1: you know, there was some other fraternity members there that 512 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 1: that you just mentioned the Mr Bill do you know, 513 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 1: just let you know that you know there are some 514 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 1: some sigmas that okay, okay, but you just didn't mention 515 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 1: him there though Bill. You didn't mention him though, Bill, No, 516 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 1: but I'm just saying. I'm just saying I told him respect, 517 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 1: I understand your pop position, told position that good. 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