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Speaker 1: trying to be a considerate person here, let's start off
Speaker 1: the show. Guys. We appreciate your dude. We appreciate you dude.
Speaker 1: Wasn't I was on camera? Yeah, it was technical differculties,
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Speaker 1: Jerry Jones on his radio show today and I want
Speaker 1: to make sure I get the court exactly right. And
Speaker 1: he's talking about head coach Mike McCarthy. He is the
Speaker 1: difference maker that needs to be recognized. Gentlemen, eleven wins,
Speaker 1: NFC East Champs, two games to go. How do you
Speaker 1: feel about what Jerry Jones said about his head coach.
Speaker 1: I'll start with you first, Barry Oh, okay, his head coach.
Speaker 1: I gotta give him credit. I gotta give McCarthy credit
Speaker 1: because he's the guy that brought in the true difference maker.
Speaker 1: And I would say that would be Dan Quinn on
Speaker 1: the defensive side of the football, because we've all kind
Speaker 1: of recognized what he's been able to do on that
Speaker 1: side of the ball. And I mean he switched it
Speaker 1: literally a one eighty because last year they were historically bad. Um.
Speaker 1: And I've been a part a couple of defenses that
Speaker 1: were historically bad, so I know what I'm talking about
Speaker 1: about that. But and he made them one of the
Speaker 1: top NFL or top defenses International Football League, whether it's
Speaker 1: taking the football away on third down. Um. You know,
Speaker 1: they might not be ranked up there as far as
Speaker 1: you know total yards, but a lot of that is
Speaker 1: garbage yards. So to me, this is a top ten defense.
Speaker 1: And what a top ten defense from the eyes. From
Speaker 1: the eyes, you know, we still got our back going,
Speaker 1: got our back going. But from my eyesight, this is
Speaker 1: definitely a top ten defense and it has pretty much
Speaker 1: to do with dan Quinn and what he's been able
Speaker 1: to do with these same players, these same players that
Speaker 1: were under the last year's defensive coordinator. So to me,
Speaker 1: the biggest difference is dan Quinn. But I gotta give
Speaker 1: him McCarthy credit because he was one of the reasons
Speaker 1: that dan Quinn was probably no, no, did you hear
Speaker 1: what just happened right there? So essentially what he said
Speaker 1: was the biggest difference Baker on the team off of
Speaker 1: this year is dan Quinn best. But he's going to give,
Speaker 1: He's going to get. He's going to give Mike McCarthy
Speaker 1: the credit for hiring Yeah, he was even sure that
Speaker 1: that is what happened. I'm not sure, but I thought
Speaker 1: the hierarchy that way, like he went out there, well,
Speaker 1: I gotta break that Quinn in. I'm just gonna give
Speaker 1: him some credit on that regard. Yeah, listen, I think
Speaker 1: this is a total one eighty for Mike McCarthy as well.
Speaker 1: I think last year whatever anomaly you had injuries, you
Speaker 1: had COVID going on, everybody's trying to readjust you also
Speaker 1: had a horrible defensive coordinator to come in who was
Speaker 1: your friend but did but you didn't find a way
Speaker 1: to remove him from the equation. Ain't get dan Quinn
Speaker 1: in here if it was his decision or not. He's
Speaker 1: still coaching under Mike McCarthy, right, Okay, So I will
Speaker 1: give him credit for that, but I will say the
Speaker 1: recognition that Jerry Jones has given him he should But
Speaker 1: I mean myself and I I'm going to give the
Speaker 1: majority of this to dan Quinn, who was also able
Speaker 1: to step in and be head coaching this season as well.
Speaker 1: McCarthy was out. Um So in all fairness, yeah, Mike McCarthy,
Speaker 1: you the head coach, you get you get the props
Speaker 1: because you also get knocked down when the team is
Speaker 1: doing bad. But it's obvious that dan Quinn came in
Speaker 1: here and changed something with the team, so he also
Speaker 1: deserves that credit. And I'm still gonna give it like
Speaker 1: seventy thirty you know to U. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, absolutely
Speaker 1: McCarthy's head coach. Shout out to him. He's winning, right,
Speaker 1: But Dan like as far as from last year to
Speaker 1: this year to the biggest differences is the way the
Speaker 1: biggest the biggest defense is how to be the biggest
Speaker 1: difference is how the defense is playing. And I have
Speaker 1: to credit that to dan Quinn. Okay, don't you thinking
Speaker 1: now now, Barry, I will. I will say this man.
Speaker 1: You mentioned how dan Quinn is doing this with the
Speaker 1: same players that Mike Nolan had. Now that's definitely not true.
Speaker 1: I mean they went out and got better football players. Um,
Speaker 1: Mike Nolan was terrible, and I played Mike McCarthy for
Speaker 1: hiring his friend. So if I'm gonna filt him for that,
Speaker 1: I've got to be honest and go back to the
Speaker 1: other side and say, Okay, you and I don't know, Danny,
Speaker 1: I think you're right. I don't know if this was
Speaker 1: Mike's higher or whether this was the jones Is higher,
Speaker 1: But bottom line, he came in here and Mike McCarthy
Speaker 1: let this man do his job. He's not gotten in
Speaker 1: the way. I go back to that training camp moment
Speaker 1: where I saw McCarthy and dan quinn walking up and
Speaker 1: down the field after practice with Mike with Michael Parsons
Speaker 1: talking about the plan they had for him and what
Speaker 1: they wanted to do. Because after they had that conversation,
Speaker 1: he came over and did a one on one with
Speaker 1: us for Channel five, and I asked him about it.
Speaker 1: He's just talking about how they really believe in him
Speaker 1: and they've got a plan for him. So I gotta
Speaker 1: give Mike McCarthy credit for at least getting out of
Speaker 1: the way, because we've seen plenty of coaches who do
Speaker 1: get in the way and do a lot of their
Speaker 1: egos to take over. So I gotta give Mike McCarthy credit.
Speaker 1: And when Jerry Jones says, and I want to make
Speaker 1: sure I repeat this correctly exactly, he is the difference
Speaker 1: maker that needs to be recognized, and that's why I
Speaker 1: wanted to bring it up. We gotta think we should
Speaker 1: recognize Mike McCarthy for where he's got this football team
Speaker 1: or eleven wins. I know, I lambasted and many times
Speaker 1: to talk about what the Packers have done without the
Speaker 1: Packers go win in the thirteen games without him. That's
Speaker 1: gonna be three straight years where they have gone thirteen
Speaker 1: wins without Mike McCarthy, and they identified Mike McCarthy as
Speaker 1: the problem. So Mike McCarthy, in my opinion, has definitely
Speaker 1: had a bounce back here this year. And I gotta
Speaker 1: get problems I listen to hold on movie now because
Speaker 1: I got to come to my man Church's defensive defense
Speaker 1: over here. Okay, nobody, because I was getting ready to
Speaker 1: Neville Gallimore, Randy Gregory players or sank Clad Lewis, Anthony Browns.
Speaker 1: Like these all same majority of the same play and
Speaker 1: I think you mean also the like they're playing so
Speaker 1: much better than they were before. And then we look
Speaker 1: at I mean, who's the two difference makers that have
Speaker 1: come as new players are We're talking about Parsons and
Speaker 1: and Curse. I mean that those are the only two.
Speaker 1: The rest of them are basically the same players. And
Speaker 1: what he's been able to do with these same layers
Speaker 1: is to me, it's it's admirable. The way he's been
Speaker 1: able to elevate their game has been something that we
Speaker 1: have not seen since we have been a part of
Speaker 1: the Cowboys franchise. We haven't seen what coach come in
Speaker 1: and say, all right, this is what we're gonna do differently,
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden you go from worse
Speaker 1: to the top ten eyesight. Last I mean, dis was
Speaker 1: a rookie. Gallimore was a rookie. I just think it's different.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it gives him any excuse, but this
Speaker 1: is not the same. And I also and you guys
Speaker 1: played in the league and so maybe you can explain
Speaker 1: this more. I do believe the Cowboys defense was embarrassed
Speaker 1: personally by what happened, and guys wanted to make sure
Speaker 1: that that didn't happen again. I mean, we don't hear
Speaker 1: any more of the hot boys talk. We don't see
Speaker 1: anything like that. I do believe that they were truly
Speaker 1: embarrassed by what happened. And I think Jerry and Stephen
Speaker 1: when they went out and drafted guys put people on notice.
Speaker 1: So I just think it was a different atmosphere and
Speaker 1: they created a different level of what they wanted out here.
Speaker 1: And I definitely feel like there was Jimmy Sacred Cows
Speaker 1: on that football team last year. Yeah, they didn't want
Speaker 1: to get embarrassing. They also didn't want to lose their
Speaker 1: job because like you said, uh, you know, Jerry and
Speaker 1: them guys put these boys on notice. They got what
Speaker 1: it was. Eleven draft picks were basically all all defense
Speaker 1: except for one or two here and there. And uh,
Speaker 1: I think with these rookies coming in it it helped
Speaker 1: push those veterans a lot, especially Michael Parsons. The way
Speaker 1: he's been able to take the field and had that
Speaker 1: energy and juice about him. He's made all these other players,
Speaker 1: Randy Gregory, d Laws, the Nevill Gallimas of the world
Speaker 1: stepped their game up. And to me, you know, he
Speaker 1: definitely deserves kudos for that one. Yeah, okay, I give
Speaker 1: a little bit of that the Michael Parsons about how
Speaker 1: well these dudes are playing, But Tank Lawrence ain't playing
Speaker 1: better because of Michael Parsons out, I don't think, because
Speaker 1: I don't see the take over the defense. Listen, let's
Speaker 1: not forget who Tank Lawrence was before he had the
Speaker 1: season with Mike Nolan and then the final. No, I'm
Speaker 1: just saying, let's not forget back. He still he still
Speaker 1: has that same mentality. He didn't lose that he didn't.
Speaker 1: I don't. I never believe that take was one of
Speaker 1: those guys who've got money and then the kind of
Speaker 1: let us for the He needed something in someone specifically
Speaker 1: a defensive line coach who could help him out and
Speaker 1: can scheme to get him one on ones, and it
Speaker 1: one on ones the dudes winning. Literally everybody across that
Speaker 1: line who they've been able to, Hey, we're gonna send
Speaker 1: an extra person so we can get one on ones
Speaker 1: with our defensive line, and dan Quinn is said, my
Speaker 1: guys are better than your I think that is a
Speaker 1: huge difference from from what they've seen when they tried
Speaker 1: to run out three four and also when they when
Speaker 1: they had uh was it Rod Marinelli when they would
Speaker 1: just rushed forward and somebody was getting the double team.
Speaker 1: They're not. They're not letting teams off the hook right now.
Speaker 1: But a lot of the reasons he's getting these one
Speaker 1: on ones it is because the pressure that Michael Parsons
Speaker 1: has been able to put, whether it's in the middle
Speaker 1: of the field, on the outside of the edge, and
Speaker 1: you also added Randy Gregory out there, so I definitely think,
Speaker 1: you know, they got to deal with you know, dan
Speaker 1: quinn scheme and what he's drawing up and got these
Speaker 1: guys playing games, and a lot of it has to
Speaker 1: just do with their ability to just have extreme depth
Speaker 1: out there, and all three of those guys can basically
Speaker 1: beat one on ones and do do what they have
Speaker 1: to do. So it's treating a lot of openings for
Speaker 1: all the players along the defensive line, even the interior guys.
Speaker 1: You see them getting after it as well, and they're backups.
Speaker 1: Look at bashing them, look at Dorans Armstrong. They're making
Speaker 1: plays as well. So kudos to the whole thing. Man.
Speaker 1: They hate balling defensively. Hey Mike McCarthy, the great job, bro.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, there we go. Great job, Mike McCarthy.
Speaker 1: Great job is the kool aid back and that and
Speaker 1: that's and that's really the whole point here is it's
Speaker 1: given given the guy some credit along the way for
Speaker 1: eleven wins. And I stand up and raised my hand.
Speaker 1: I was off the train. I was disappointing. I didn't
Speaker 1: think that this guy was gonna be the right guy.
Speaker 1: So I gotta sit up here with eleven wins left
Speaker 1: and say, yeah, this guy's done it. There's a second seed.
Speaker 1: They could end up being the number one seed. They
Speaker 1: could end up going to the playoffs, and who knows,
Speaker 1: maybe even go to Green Bay and face the packers
Speaker 1: for a shot to go do it to someplace pretty big.
Speaker 1: Knew it. So I mean, I can't wait to ask
Speaker 1: you this question next year and we lose dan Quinn. This, this, this,
Speaker 1: this that one back on the train. This is a
Speaker 1: question that we should. We should make sure we remember
Speaker 1: this day seven twenty eight, and we should if anything
Speaker 1: changes with dan Quinn's position here, what the Cowboys he
Speaker 1: ends up moving on. I think that will also be
Speaker 1: the biggest loss for the Dallas Cowboys as well. So
Speaker 1: hopefully Jerry finds a way. Like you said, when Jerry
Speaker 1: want to keep somebody, he keeps him. So hopefully this
Speaker 1: is one of those times when he opened up that
Speaker 1: check but put him on the yacht and say, hey,
Speaker 1: man's let's figure out a way to keep you here.
Speaker 1: It's funny because at the beginning of the season, you know,
Speaker 1: we were talking about how are we gonna be able
Speaker 1: to keep killing Moore, How are we gonna be able
Speaker 1: to say he's the genius child, How are we gonna
Speaker 1: be able to keep this guy? And now it's totally flipped.
Speaker 1: But we got to figure out the way to keep that.
Speaker 1: He's getting all the head coaching attention now, it's crazy.
Speaker 1: He's he's good at what he does, man, and I
Speaker 1: took specifically when he's just focusing just on the defense.
Speaker 1: He is a different guy, that different guy. So so Danny,
Speaker 1: you're correct, you did bring up the point about it
Speaker 1: being a coordinator. And I fought you on it because
Speaker 1: I'm like, hey man, he had Seattle, they had those
Speaker 1: players there, so obviously that's that's changed. Two points here.
Speaker 1: You can start interviewing these assistant coaches now for jobs
Speaker 1: if you have one open. So Las Vegas and Jacksonville
Speaker 1: could open. Could ask Jerry for permission to interview Quinn
Speaker 1: Moore whoever. If dan Quinn is lost, Joe Junior needs
Speaker 1: to be the defensive coordinator. If I'm Jerry, I go
Speaker 1: out of my way to make sure I say to him,
Speaker 1: you know what, I want you to be the guy,
Speaker 1: because remember he had COVID earlier this year. Wick came
Speaker 1: out there. Let let the Cowboys. I can't remember attactingly
Speaker 1: which game it was, but they were fine. That's the way. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so this is the way to me to keep the
Speaker 1: continuity going here. Um, it would be a tremendous loss
Speaker 1: for the team. But right now, I don't know if
Speaker 1: I see dan Quinn fitting with the Raiders as a
Speaker 1: head coach. I think he could help out Jacksonville, but
Speaker 1: I can see Jacksonville trying to go for an offensive coach,
Speaker 1: somebody like a gym Caldwell who could help their quarterback,
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence. I had a good conversation with Rodney Harrison
Speaker 1: of NBC Sports. Rodney lives in Atlanta, so he's been
Speaker 1: around the Falcons a lot and dan Quinn, and he
Speaker 1: just feels like dan Quinn is a guy who's best
Speaker 1: as a coordinator. He says, he's not really sold on
Speaker 1: him as a head coach. And I fought Rodney back
Speaker 1: a little bit, like, you know, dan Quinn almost did
Speaker 1: win a Super Bowl, by the way, So anyway, just
Speaker 1: the thought, yeah, we haven't. We haven't almost won a
Speaker 1: super Bowl here time. So it's a hard thing to do.
Speaker 1: So even though even though what happened to them with
Speaker 1: the twenty eight three, it's Tom Brady that they were
Speaker 1: playing against God and he made it there. Man, there's
Speaker 1: a lot of coaches who would who would love to
Speaker 1: be in the situation where they just that's how they
Speaker 1: lost it. They just want to get there. Sope he stays,
Speaker 1: I hope he stays. Let me let me talk to him,
Speaker 1: man to man. Right, Yeah, remember that remember that year
Speaker 1: dan Quinn went to the Super Bowl. He was he
Speaker 1: was the number two seed in the playoffs that year,
Speaker 1: h number two seeds. Yeah, I wonder who number? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a break. It's time for a break. It's time
Speaker 1: for a break. New who the coach on that? So? Oh? No, man, come,
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Speaker 1: Cardinals come to town for the final Cowboys regular season
Speaker 1: home game of the year. The Cardinals fellas they are
Speaker 1: in a free fall. They have three offensive touchdowns in
Speaker 1: their last two games. They lost their last three games.
Speaker 1: Lost to the Rams thirty to twenty three, then lost
Speaker 1: thirty to twelve at Detroit. Then they lost this past
Speaker 1: weekend at home twenty two to sixteen to Indianapolis. Guys,
Speaker 1: how do you view this Cardinals game and how do
Speaker 1: you view this Cardinal team? Man? I still view him
Speaker 1: as a dangerous, dangerous squad. They still have the same weapons.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, but they still have They still have the
Speaker 1: same weapons. Kylin Murray is going to get back on
Speaker 1: he had missed a few games. I think. I think
Speaker 1: he's still an incredible threat for any defense, right, Um,
Speaker 1: And I think this is one of those get right things. Right.
Speaker 1: They know they're going to the playoffs, and they know
Speaker 1: that this is going to be a test for them,
Speaker 1: like to see where they are and what they need
Speaker 1: to improve on. So we're gonna get their best shot,
Speaker 1: as the Cowboys always do. So I still think it's
Speaker 1: gonna be dangerous. I think you should feel the same
Speaker 1: way about the Cardinals as you felt about the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: A couple of weeks ago when you said we slept walking,
Speaker 1: we weren't. We're not into it and we're just in
Speaker 1: the slump and then we're gonna get out of it.
Speaker 1: We need to make sure that we don't let them
Speaker 1: get out of the slump on us. Just stop them
Speaker 1: right back and keep him. But but you can expect
Speaker 1: to get expect to get their best foot the put
Speaker 1: forward when they get here. So I'm still nervous, all right,
Speaker 1: I'm still nervous, not about us losing, but I want
Speaker 1: us to continue on this same path of like creating turnovers,
Speaker 1: being able to stop this du a thread quarterback in
Speaker 1: our offense, to continue to excel forward and not get
Speaker 1: back to where we were a couple of weeks ago. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna join that. You know. Arizona, you know, I
Speaker 1: definitely think still a dangerous team. I mean, they got
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray who's one of the best players international Football League,
Speaker 1: and if he's at the quarterback position, they're always gonna
Speaker 1: have a chance to go in there and beat somebody.
Speaker 1: So they're still a dangerous team. They're not as dangerous
Speaker 1: without DeAndre Hopkins, who's arguably one of their best best
Speaker 1: players as well. He won't come back until the playoffs
Speaker 1: or did they clinch yet? Did they clinch the playoffs?
Speaker 1: I think, honestly not sure. They might not even they
Speaker 1: have not all right, well, if they clinched the playoffs,
Speaker 1: he'll be back in that scenario. But they're still a
Speaker 1: dangerous team. But I think if this Cowboys team plays
Speaker 1: like they did last week, where the offense was hitting,
Speaker 1: you know, defensively, they were getting after the quarterback, I
Speaker 1: think they should have no opportunity. They have no chance
Speaker 1: of ut beating the Dallas Cowboys if they play up
Speaker 1: to part to me, this Arizona defense, I mean they've
Speaker 1: given up I think what eighty some points in these
Speaker 1: last three games, so they're getting diced up out there. Offensively,
Speaker 1: they can't seem to get in the rhythm like we
Speaker 1: talked about. You know, their their run game isn't there.
Speaker 1: James Connor, I don't know if he'll be back for
Speaker 1: this game, but they're missing him out there as well.
Speaker 1: So to me, overall, the Cowboys have a big opportunity
Speaker 1: to go ahead and put the Arizona down a couple
Speaker 1: of pegs in that seating category. But I don't see
Speaker 1: Arizona being that crazy of a threat overall, it's our
Speaker 1: biggest third of the last of the last two. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: I get you that. Yes, So Kyler Murray's never lost
Speaker 1: at a teen T stadium. I mean he hadn't lost
Speaker 1: when eies with the Texas a and and Maggies, had
Speaker 1: lost the game when he played for the Oaklhola Sooners,
Speaker 1: and hadn't lost the game coming in there with the
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals. So this guy owns Jerry World. If you're
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, how do you look at a team that's
Speaker 1: lost three straight fighting for their playoffs lives here? It's
Speaker 1: hard to be a good team and lose four games
Speaker 1: in a row here. So I'm just kind of looking
Speaker 1: at the Cardinals. This team's gonna be really, really desperate
Speaker 1: to come and get themselves a wa without a down,
Speaker 1: but real quick, quick, real quick, real quick on you.
Speaker 1: The Jaguires have requested interviews with a couple of people,
Speaker 1: and one of those UH candidates happened to be Kelly Moore, uh,
Speaker 1: the offensive coordinated here in Dallas. So what's your thoughts
Speaker 1: about old Kelly Moore down in uh in Jacksonville? Man,
Speaker 1: I hope he gets it. Why Why? Because he deserves it.
Speaker 1: It'd be great for who Hey, look if Kellen Moore
Speaker 1: then that would be a fantastic move for him. That
Speaker 1: also show you that, you know, Mike McCarthy is developed
Speaker 1: the staff and which he can promote some people. That's
Speaker 1: something that the last head coach could not do. In
Speaker 1: house candidate already in house candidate ready to go's keller more?
Speaker 1: Coach Garrett? What are we talking about? He's under Jason
Speaker 1: gars trading right, and one of the Jason Garrett guy
Speaker 1: is going to be a head coach in Jacksonville. You
Speaker 1: over giving to McCarthy. I think it would be a
Speaker 1: perfect situation. You got giving giving it. Oh yeah, because
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones started this morning, So you're just gonna continue
Speaker 1: on that way. Come on, bro, the guy playing under
Speaker 1: Jason Gear, he coached under Jason Gear and then he
Speaker 1: if he gets this head coaching job, he would be
Speaker 1: as Jason gard guy being being a head coach for
Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jaguar. Shout out to killing more for even
Speaker 1: being in the running. It's a hard thing to do,
Speaker 1: especially for as quick as he's been able to ascend
Speaker 1: and the ladder to being the head coaching situation. Chefter's
Speaker 1: reporting that they also requested with dan Quinn as well,
Speaker 1: So they both they're going out to the end. I've
Speaker 1: told you, we talked about it earlier in the players
Speaker 1: lounge that when you have good seasons, when you got
Speaker 1: you know, you're putting everything out there like that, teams
Speaker 1: are gonna come pick to your part. So what do
Speaker 1: you do though? So you going there, and you know,
Speaker 1: and and and dan Quinn walks in after killing more
Speaker 1: does he speak positives? I'm like, man, look, I'm the
Speaker 1: reason where you see what the strength of the Cowboys is.
Speaker 1: He's like, I'm he's good. But you want to take
Speaker 1: this to the next level. Yeah, I'm you got, I'm
Speaker 1: your guy. You see what I'm able to do out here.
Speaker 1: They take the same flight to what you're working on there.
Speaker 1: That's how you're gonna switch around. Think, Uh, okay, you Quin.
Speaker 1: You know what dan Quinn gonna say? Dan quinck Gonnay.
Speaker 1: You saw that slump, right, Okay, I say so, I
Speaker 1: say it. So I'm just gonna say that you gonna
Speaker 1: remember Saxonville if you are really if you're if you're Jacksonville,
Speaker 1: you you should probably hire someone who's been a head coach,
Speaker 1: who's been to a Super Bowl. So when they walk
Speaker 1: into the room, they have some true they have some
Speaker 1: true knowledge of running in the organization. And that's just
Speaker 1: me right now. That's if I was shot come, I
Speaker 1: would be looking at Jim Caldwell. I would be looking
Speaker 1: at at dan Don't say it is talented, but don't
Speaker 1: say dan quinn name on this video show that got left.
Speaker 1: We need dan Quinn focused on this super Bowl run news.
Speaker 1: We don't want to hear no request, no nothing, and
Speaker 1: and and I would throw I would throw Todd Bowles
Speaker 1: out there too. He's hiring people who've been head coaches,
Speaker 1: and like I said, preferably someone who. To me, Jim
Speaker 1: Caldwell's the perfect choice in Jacksonville. Perfect. He's an offensive guy.
Speaker 1: His work with Joe Flacco the best year Flaco ever had.
Speaker 1: They won the Super Bowl. He was calling plays for Baltimore.
Speaker 1: You look at the fifty touchdown mdpc's into Peyton Manning hat.
Speaker 1: That was with Jim Caldwell as a coach. He took
Speaker 1: the coach to a super Bowl. They lost to the
Speaker 1: Saints in a good football game. You saw what he
Speaker 1: did in Detroit and Matthew Stafford best year with Jim calledwell,
Speaker 1: Detroit's done nothing since he is a guy who treats
Speaker 1: men like men. He knows how to win. He doesn't
Speaker 1: beat on his chest. He just goes out and he
Speaker 1: does his job. If I'm shotgun right now, I would
Speaker 1: be looking for substance like Jim Caldwell. That's what I
Speaker 1: would do. But I'm not shot Cohn Barry, you know
Speaker 1: him better than so. What you're saying is, you know
Speaker 1: you don't want to, you know, hire a coach that's
Speaker 1: gonna be you know, all in the press clippings, you know,
Speaker 1: kicking players while they down. You know, he get you know,
Speaker 1: I don't want to travel with my team that just lost,
Speaker 1: took an l on national television. I'm gonna stay in Ohio.
Speaker 1: That's what you're saying, don't want he needs somebody of
Speaker 1: the people. I see what you're saying. I see what
Speaker 1: you're saying, though. It just it makes sense. And that's
Speaker 1: to me, that's what I'm looking for. Because you use
Speaker 1: the number one pick in the draft and people were
Speaker 1: saying that Trevor Lawrence was a transcendent quarterback. You were
Speaker 1: talking he was being talked about in a Andrew Luck
Speaker 1: type way, and I'm sorry that has not happened at all, um.
Speaker 1: So that's why I would hire someone like a gym calledwell,
Speaker 1: who's who's done it before? I mean, can you okay?
Speaker 1: And this is what owners should do. I don't know
Speaker 1: if they do, but pick up the phone called Joe Flacco,
Speaker 1: pick up the phone call Matthew Stafford, pick up the
Speaker 1: phone called Peyton Manning and ask them what did Jim
Speaker 1: Caldwell do for me as a quarterback in the National
Speaker 1: Football League? And why did I have my best See
Speaker 1: he's an ever under Jim Colpler. If you know, you
Speaker 1: guys see this and you guys are defensive players, and
Speaker 1: you know it. If you got a quarterback, you got
Speaker 1: a shot. You know, I'm a quarterback in this league.
Speaker 1: You got a problem. Yeah, it's a quarterback driven league.
Speaker 1: On hold on what you're saying. It ain't driven back
Speaker 1: a quarterback San Francisco, Okay, let's use San Francisco. A
Speaker 1: quarterback out there in the Super Bowl who couldn't complete
Speaker 1: what three four passes? What are we talking about? Most yeah,
Speaker 1: most of the time. Yes, it's a quarterback driven league.
Speaker 1: San Francisco is one of those teams where they will
Speaker 1: run it to the Super Bowl, play and play defens
Speaker 1: get there. But yes, most of the time, it is
Speaker 1: a quarterback always now and then you know the two
Speaker 1: thousand Ravens they basically had who they had a head
Speaker 1: quarterback thing. Hassleback was in there, one of the hasslebacks,
Speaker 1: I think. But anyway, Trent Trent Dilford. I think they
Speaker 1: scored a total, you know, fifty points the whole entire season,
Speaker 1: but they had one of the best defenses in NFL history.
Speaker 1: So you know there's always an outlier here. And the
Speaker 1: Rams Jared gold because he easy that's sitting in Detroit
Speaker 1: right now. You know I always wanted Now now, Danny,
Speaker 1: hear your points there about San Francisco and the Rams,
Speaker 1: which make perfect sense. And those are two guys who
Speaker 1: used to work together in Washington and Kyle Shanahan, and
Speaker 1: you know, those guys were the masterminds and they basically
Speaker 1: pulled the strings, um for the for those quarterbacks. You know,
Speaker 1: these are kind of outliers in their situation, but um,
Speaker 1: not too many guys. I mean, for the most part,
Speaker 1: you're gonna need a quarterback to do it be could
Speaker 1: you do it one time like they did? They did
Speaker 1: it at one time, and those quarterbacks were never able
Speaker 1: to get their organizations back to that level again. And
Speaker 1: we saw Sean McVay already move on from golfing, and
Speaker 1: we saw what Shanahan did in the offseason by trading
Speaker 1: all those picks to move up to take Trey Land,
Speaker 1: So clearly they wanted to move on from those guys
Speaker 1: already two could pay. It's not the way out. Well
Speaker 1: he knew it though. He said the defensive go Carrius
Speaker 1: to this thing. He called it out. He asked Marcus
Speaker 1: Ware to go ahead. Were now what they did? They did.
Speaker 1: That's why I'm excited about us. All credit to the Share,
Speaker 1: All credit to the Share for understanding and knowing I
Speaker 1: can't do this by my I'm gonna need you to
Speaker 1: help me out, so that prop prompts to him. But uh,
Speaker 1: congratulations to the Cowboy Organization for having the kind of
Speaker 1: year that your two coordinators are being asked to uh
Speaker 1: to be interviewed for jobs. And we'll see what the
Speaker 1: Raiders decide to do in terms of handling guys. But
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you, guys, I just think with Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 1: They got to go offense with a head coach from
Speaker 1: that standpoint and go with a guy with some experience.
Speaker 1: I mean, sure, Trevor Lawrence better than Joe Burrow. Anybody
Speaker 1: say that. Ain't say that. Listen, that was the comparison
Speaker 1: before it was justin Herbert. Who was Trevor Lawrens championship together?
Speaker 1: And what Joe Burrow do? I'ut play them and went
Speaker 1: and went on here and he's been his rookie season,
Speaker 1: it's been better than Trevor Lawrence's rookie season. It has
Speaker 1: and his sophomore season. I've seen him this morning, people
Speaker 1: ranking him up there in top five quarterbacks. I'm just
Speaker 1: saying I didn't see just the Herbert nowhere on there.
Speaker 1: But I also didn't see that that. Yeah, you know
Speaker 1: Saturday he makes them, you know, you know wild So
Speaker 1: you think that list was crazy? No, I don't think
Speaker 1: it was crazy. You know, I think they had the
Speaker 1: fifth place. You know, kind of confused a little bit
Speaker 1: there with Herbert and Burrow, But you know, other than that,
Speaker 1: it was a solid. Listen to me get off the
Speaker 1: just who's been better than first two years of their career?
Speaker 1: What do you mean Joe Burrow. He was hurt. He
Speaker 1: was hurt. Has part of the games part Cam made
Speaker 1: the club in the top. One of them gonna be
Speaker 1: owing two for the playoff run, and one of them
Speaker 1: he might not even be talking about he got two
Speaker 1: games left. Casey in Cleveland, they might not even who
Speaker 1: do yo team got left? I don't worry about that
Speaker 1: we got We ain't got case and see me, see
Speaker 1: me tomorrow when you get to ten. Man, let me
Speaker 1: know what my defense than that, because you heard Church
Speaker 1: saying that we do have a top ten defense. So
Speaker 1: maybe maybe he take off the side and just make
Speaker 1: me pay for the I test without a doll. I
Speaker 1: test the boys nice. So so just just I'm trading, okay,
Speaker 1: But if we're talking about if we're gonna talk about
Speaker 1: the bet, which is yards and in total defense, I'm
Speaker 1: thinking they're probably around nineteen twentieth probably yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: they probably like seventeen. That's what they still ain't. You know,
Speaker 1: it's a ways away. You got to ways away your
Speaker 1: top ten. You apatize us choose wisely because that all
Speaker 1: trade covering. I want the wag Goo beef sliders five five.
Speaker 1: I want the top grade wagon. That's all you're gonna
Speaker 1: do that chicken? That bro, where is that chicken? Isn't
Speaker 1: the ticket? I'm here all week, ain't no chicken. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying? What what what is this? Hey man?
Speaker 1: Hey man? You know it's time to go. You gotta
Speaker 1: get ready for mix shot Sweden. It is that time,
Speaker 1: So Palmer, I want some chicken. Palmer and his ass
Speaker 1: fire too. I gotta put one of his ass on. Well. Uh, well,
Speaker 1: we'll make sure. We'll make sure you get that cissy,
Speaker 1: that cissy sauce that you need on it. I don't
Speaker 1: mess with that hogsta. Ain't messing with that hatsta. I'm good.
Speaker 1: I take hot sweat too much. Man, Oh, fellas, We'll
Speaker 1: do it again tomorrow. Um bun times, Barry Church, Danny McCrae,
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